Re: Bug#258647: libc6-sparc64 has no reason to depend on lib64gcc1
At Mon, 12 Jul 2004 07:51:29 -0400, Ben Collins wrote: There is no reason for libc6 to depend on libgcc. Then is it safe to remove dependency? If some userland application need to use lib64gcc1, user has to install it manually? debian-sparc guys, BenC, is it OK? Nikita, please ask to debian-sparc guys instead of me. It should be fine. libgcc1 gets pulled in by proper shlibdeps, so lib64gcc1 should do the same. OK, that makes sense. I'll modify it after uploading 2.3.2.ds1-14 because I fear the impact to the current sarge. Regards, -- gotom
Re: Bug#258647: libc6-sparc64 has no reason to depend on lib64gcc1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At Sun, 11 Jul 2004 00:51:14 +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Package: libc6-sparc64 Version: 2.3.2.ds1-13 Package libc6-sparc64 has no reason to depend on lib64gcc1. None of libraries provided by libc6-sparc64 are linked agains this library. The problem is they don't need to be installed on sparc environment always. I can't understang how that's related to depending on lib64gcc1. None of libc6 packages on other architectures depends on libgcc packages. And libc6-s390x on s390 does not depend on lib64gcc1. There is no reason for libc6 to depend on libgcc. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA8h7rsTbPknTfAB4RAvWkAJwLpy7qMC3TbEs82Kt3FX0vh9zuRwCeOmaY cpfgFRN9L+t8AUdVfPkOn24= =emas -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Bug#258647: libc6-sparc64 has no reason to depend on lib64gcc1
Debian's dependency system NEVER made any sense. Seen today on my Debian/i386 system: bombur:~/aac-plugin-for-xmms# dpkg --install autoconf_2.59-5_all.deb Selecting previously deselected package autoconf. dpkg: regarding autoconf_2.59-5_all.deb containing autoconf: autoconf conflicts with autoconf2.13 ( 2.13-47) autoconf2.13 (version 2.13-43) is installed. dpkg: error processing autoconf_2.59-5_all.deb (--install): conflicting packages - not installing autoconf Errors were encountered while processing: autoconf_2.59-5_all.deb bombur:~/aac-plugin-for-xmms# dpkg --purge autoconf dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of autoconf: autoconf2.13 depends on autoconf (= 2.50). dpkg: error processing autoconf (--purge): dependency problems - not removing Errors were encountered while processing: autoconf bombur:~/aac-plugin-for-xmms# Yes-- to install or remove autoconf 2.13, I had to first install autoconf 2.5. Or that's what the dependency checker gnomes told me. On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 09:17:27 +0400 From: Nikita V. Youshchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: GOTO Masanori [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-sparc@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Bug#258647: libc6-sparc64 has no reason to depend on lib64gcc1 Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 00:33:23 -0500 (CDT) Resent-From: debian-sparc@lists.debian.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At Sun, 11 Jul 2004 00:51:14 +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Package: libc6-sparc64 Version: 2.3.2.ds1-13 Package libc6-sparc64 has no reason to depend on lib64gcc1. None of libraries provided by libc6-sparc64 are linked agains this library. The problem is they don't need to be installed on sparc environment always. I can't understang how that's related to depending on lib64gcc1. None of libc6 packages on other architectures depends on libgcc packages. And libc6-s390x on s390 does not depend on lib64gcc1. There is no reason for libc6 to depend on libgcc. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA8h7rsTbPknTfAB4RAvWkAJwLpy7qMC3TbEs82Kt3FX0vh9zuRwCeOmaY cpfgFRN9L+t8AUdVfPkOn24= =emas -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jessica L. Blank, Systems Administrator, twu.net Please avoid sending me Word, Excel or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
Re: Bug#258647: libc6-sparc64 has no reason to depend on lib64gcc1
At Mon, 12 Jul 2004 09:17:27 +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nikita V. Youshchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Package: libc6-sparc64 Version: 2.3.2.ds1-13 Package libc6-sparc64 has no reason to depend on lib64gcc1. None of libraries provided by libc6-sparc64 are linked agains this library. The problem is they don't need to be installed on sparc environment always. I can't understang how that's related to depending on lib64gcc1. None of libc6 packages on other architectures depends on libgcc packages. And libc6-s390x on s390 does not depend on lib64gcc1. There is no reason for libc6 to depend on libgcc. Then is it safe to remove dependency? If some userland application need to use lib64gcc1, user has to install it manually? debian-sparc guys, BenC, is it OK? Nikita, please ask to debian-sparc guys instead of me. Regards, -- gotom
Re: Bug#258647: libc6-sparc64 has no reason to depend on lib64gcc1
On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 03:51:45PM +0900, GOTO Masanori wrote: At Mon, 12 Jul 2004 09:17:27 +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nikita V. Youshchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Package: libc6-sparc64 Version: 2.3.2.ds1-13 Package libc6-sparc64 has no reason to depend on lib64gcc1. None of libraries provided by libc6-sparc64 are linked agains this library. The problem is they don't need to be installed on sparc environment always. I can't understang how that's related to depending on lib64gcc1. None of libc6 packages on other architectures depends on libgcc packages. And libc6-s390x on s390 does not depend on lib64gcc1. There is no reason for libc6 to depend on libgcc. Then is it safe to remove dependency? If some userland application need to use lib64gcc1, user has to install it manually? debian-sparc guys, BenC, is it OK? Nikita, please ask to debian-sparc guys instead of me. It should be fine. libgcc1 gets pulled in by proper shlibdeps, so lib64gcc1 should do the same. -- Debian - http://www.debian.org/ Linux 1394 - http://www.linux1394.org/ Subversion - http://subversion.tigris.org/ WatchGuard - http://www.watchguard.com/
Re: Bug#258647: libc6-sparc64 has no reason to depend on lib64gcc1
At Sun, 11 Jul 2004 00:51:14 +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Package: libc6-sparc64 Version: 2.3.2.ds1-13 Package libc6-sparc64 has no reason to depend on lib64gcc1. None of libraries provided by libc6-sparc64 are linked agains this library. The problem is they don't need to be installed on sparc environment always. With the current situation, I'm getting checken-and-egg problem while working on cross-gcc deb building procedures: - - lib64gcc1-sparc-cross deb should be produced by cross-gcc build; - - gcc while building for sparc target should build-depend on libc6-sparc64-sparc-cross (produced automativcally by dpkg-cross from libc6-sparc64-sparc-cross) - - libc6-sparc64-sparc-cross depends on lib64gcc1-sparc-cross because libc6-sparc64 depends on lib64gcc1. Look at the dependency loop: db1-compat and libc6. Another example is libc6 and gzip (Pre-Depends). It's bootstrapping problem that sometimes we harass. I have no idea to fix it. Sparc guys, if you have an idea or suggestions, please let me know. Otherwise, I'll close it. Regards, -- gotom
