Problem getting X Server to tun on Ultra Sparc 10 with Debian 3.0.r1

2003-05-13 Thread kevin curran
Folks

I have been trying unsuccessfully for about three weeks (on and off) to get
the graphical User interface to work on my Sun UltraSparc 10 box. I presume
it has an Elite 3D PCI card inside as the sticker is on the front of the
box. My monitor is a Sun 19inch with a CM751U label on the back.

I have been running xf86config for weeks now trying all sorts of
configurations. I don't really know what my horizontal and vertical refresh
rates are for the monitor that I have. I also don't seem to see Elite 3D or
CM751U listed in the video card and monitor lists that xf86config presents
me with.

I can enclose the full output if people like from the server log. The last
lines however mention the following:

(EE) SUNFFB: Failed to load module 'dri' ...
(II) unloading /usr/x11r6/lib/modules
(II) unloading /usr/x11r6/lib/modules
...


Fatal server error
No Screens found

I guess that the last configuration that I choose must have been for the
subffb card. I can't remember. I have tried so many.

I have read elsewhere that I should try running the xserver-mach64. I don't
actually know how to do that. It is a command line instruction?
It says also after that line in the debian online sparc problems page that
'one should.. use this X server for ATI Rage framebuffers, such as found in
many PCI-based UltraSPARC machines'. My question here is 'DOes the
Ultrasparc 10 have an ATI rage framebuffer'?

Everything else I can get working. I installed all the network settings
manually but the X server has totally baffled. I have installed about 7
different versions of linux on over 20 PC's in the last 18 months and I have
always managed to somehow get the X server to work but my ultrasparc has
beaten me.

Any help appreciated.



Re: Problem getting X Server to tun on Ultra Sparc 10 with Debian 3.0.r1

2003-05-13 Thread Patrick McGleenon
Hi 

I had the same problem, I gave up trying xf86config and started editing
the XF86Config file by hand and checking the log messages in
/var/log/XFree86.0.log

It was a while ago but from what I remember I commented out the
Load dri line in the Module section (along with a couple of other ones)
and made sure the Driver was sunffb in the Device section

I've attached the file that's working from me (running on an Ultra30 but
with the same graphics card)

Patrick

On Tuesday 13 May 2003 12:42, kevin curran wrote:
 Folks

 I have been trying unsuccessfully for about three weeks (on and off) to get
 the graphical User interface to work on my Sun UltraSparc 10 box. I presume
 it has an Elite 3D PCI card inside as the sticker is on the front of the
 box. My monitor is a Sun 19inch with a CM751U label on the back.

 I have been running xf86config for weeks now trying all sorts of
 configurations. I don't really know what my horizontal and vertical refresh
 rates are for the monitor that I have. I also don't seem to see Elite 3D or
 CM751U listed in the video card and monitor lists that xf86config presents
 me with.

 I can enclose the full output if people like from the server log. The last
 lines however mention the following:

 (EE) SUNFFB: Failed to load module 'dri' ...
 (II) unloading /usr/x11r6/lib/modules
 (II) unloading /usr/x11r6/lib/modules
 ...
 

 Fatal server error
 No Screens found

 I guess that the last configuration that I choose must have been for the
 subffb card. I can't remember. I have tried so many.

 I have read elsewhere that I should try running the xserver-mach64. I don't
 actually know how to do that. It is a command line instruction?
 It says also after that line in the debian online sparc problems page that
 'one should.. use this X server for ATI Rage framebuffers, such as found in
 many PCI-based UltraSPARC machines'. My question here is 'DOes the
 Ultrasparc 10 have an ATI rage framebuffer'?

 Everything else I can get working. I installed all the network settings
 manually but the X server has totally baffled. I have installed about 7
 different versions of linux on over 20 PC's in the last 18 months and I
 have always managed to somehow get the X server to work but my ultrasparc
 has beaten me.

 Any help appreciated.
### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION
# XF86Config-4 (XFree86 server configuration file) generated by dexconf, the
# Debian X Configuration tool, using values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the XF86Config-4 manual page.
# (Type man XF86Config-4 at the shell prompt.)
#
# If you want your changes to this file preserved by dexconf, only make changes
# before the ### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION line above, and/or after the
# ### END DEBCONF SECTION line below.
#
# To change things within the debconf section, run the command:
#   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
# as root.  Also see How do I add custom sections to a dexconf-generated
# XF86Config or XF86Config-4 file? in /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz.

Section ServerLayout
Identifier  Manually configured by Patrick
Screen  Default Screen
InputDevice Generic Keyboard
InputDevice Configured Mouse
InputDevice Generic Mouse
EndSection

Section Files
FontPathunix/:7100# local font server
# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
EndSection


Section Module
LoadGLcore
Loadbitmap
Loaddbe
Loadddc
#   Loaddri
Loadextmod
Loadfreetype
#   Loadglx
Loadint10
#   Loadpex5
#   Loadrecord
Loadspeedo
Loadtype1
Loadvbe
#   Loadxie
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Generic Keyboard
Driver  keyboard
Option  CoreKeyboard
Option  XkbRules  sun
Option  XkbModel  type5
Option  XkbLayout us
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Configured Mouse
Driver  mouse
Option  CorePointer
Option  Device/dev/sunmouse
Option  Protocol  BusMouse
Option  Emulate3Buttons   true
Option  ZAxisMapping  4 5
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Generic Mouse
Driver  mouse
Option  SendCoreEventstrue

Re: Problem getting X Server to tun on Ultra Sparc 10 with Debian 3.0.r1

2003-05-13 Thread Ferris McCormick
On Tue, 13 May 2003, kevin curran wrote:

 Folks
 
 I have been trying unsuccessfully for about three weeks (on and off) to get
 the graphical User interface to work on my Sun UltraSparc 10 box. I presume
 it has an Elite 3D PCI card inside as the sticker is on the front of the
 box. My monitor is a Sun 19inch with a CM751U label on the back.


Try
/bin/dmesg | grep Elite

that will tell you if you have an Elite3D video card.
Also, the /var/log/XFree86.0.log should have information from
SUNFFB on what it has found on your system.
 
 I have been running xf86config for weeks now trying all sorts of
 configurations. I don't really know what my horizontal and vertical refresh
 rates are for the monitor that I have. I also don't seem to see Elite 3D or
 CM751U listed in the video card and monitor lists that xf86config presents
 me with.
 
 I can enclose the full output if people like from the server log. The last
 lines however mention the following:
 
 (EE) SUNFFB: Failed to load module 'dri' ...
 (II) unloading /usr/x11r6/lib/modules
 (II) unloading /usr/x11r6/lib/modules
 ...
 

What version of XF86?  If it is 4.2.xxx, comment out 'Load dri' from the
Modules section in your XF86Config file, if you have it.  (This is changed
with 4.3.0).

 
 Fatal server error
 No Screens found
 
 I guess that the last configuration that I choose must have been for the
 subffb card. I can't remember. I have tried so many.


SUNFFB is the driver for Creator/Elite graphics cards.  Once it is loaded,
it will figure out if it is talking to a Creator3D or to an Elite3D.
 
 I have read elsewhere that I should try running the xserver-mach64. I don't
 actually know how to do that. It is a command line instruction?
 It says also after that line in the debian online sparc problems page that
 'one should.. use this X server for ATI Rage framebuffers, such as found in
 many PCI-based UltraSPARC machines'. My question here is 'DOes the
 Ultrasparc 10 have an ATI rage framebuffer'?

Some do.  The messages at boot time will tell you what is on yours.
In fact, I have an Ultra10 with both a mach64 and with a creator3d. You
need your monitor plugged into the one the XF86Config file wants to
use.

Quick check:  If your monitor is plugged into the system using a PC-like
HD15 connector, you are not connected to a Creator/Elite card.

If you are plugged in with a Sun 13W3 connector, It's a Sun graphics
card of some sort. (HD15 = 3 rows of 5 pins; 13W3 looks like nothing
else on your system).


 
 Everything else I can get working. I installed all the network settings
 manually but the X server has totally baffled. I have installed about 7
 different versions of linux on over 20 PC's in the last 18 months and I have
 always managed to somehow get the X server to work but my ultrasparc has
 beaten me.
 
 Any help appreciated.

It can be done, but the documentation doesn't make it easy.


Regards,
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