Re: Problem installing on a SparcStation 20

2004-11-11 Thread Igmar Palsenberg

 Ok, i'll ckeck the silo manuals. But what about the problem with the
 sarge installation CD - a segfault during init isn't realy a nice 
 thing ...

Any idea what kernel it boots ? This sparc box and 2.6.x really hate 
each other, resulting in hangs and other not so nice things.


Igmar



Re: Problem installing on a SparcStation 20

2004-11-11 Thread Le grand pinguin
On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 10:00:40AM +0100, Igmar Palsenberg wrote:
 
  Ok, i'll ckeck the silo manuals. But what about the problem with the
  sarge installation CD - a segfault during init isn't realy a nice 
  thing ...
 
 Any idea what kernel it boots ? 

Not at the moment, but i can check if this is of any help. But the segfault
shows up in the middle of boot (and i got the impression from an earlier
answer that trhis is a known bug).

 This sparc box and 2.6.x really hate 
 each other, resulting in hangs and other not so nice things.

Well, i'll find out soon. I took the easy way and switched to a network
installation (using rarp and tftpboot). I got a nice and (slow)running
woody. After that i did a dist-upgrade  and had a night of dependency
hell (circular dependency libc6 - kernel-image-2.4 - initrd -  - libc6).
Having to use ar and tar to get my little toy into working condition isn't
really what i'd expect from a packaging system. BTW, what would be the 
appropriate place to report such problems. I'm not sure whether this is
an issue of the libc6 package (that checks for the kernel version during
installation (???)) or for apt/dpkg.

 Thank's a lot for your help

   RalfD
 
 
   Igmar



Re: Problem installing on a SparcStation 20

2004-11-11 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag, 11. November 2004 13:08 schrieb Le grand pinguin:
 Well, i'll find out soon. I took the easy way and switched to a network
 installation (using rarp and tftpboot). I got a nice and (slow)running
 woody. After that i did a dist-upgrade  and had a night of dependency
 hell (circular dependency libc6 - kernel-image-2.4 - initrd -  -
 libc6). Having to use ar and tar to get my little toy into working
 condition isn't really what i'd expect from a packaging system. BTW, what
 would be the appropriate place to report such problems. I'm not sure
 whether this is an issue of the libc6 package (that checks for the kernel
 version during installation (???)) or for apt/dpkg.

You probably simply have to install kernel-image-2.4.26 before dist-upgrade.
BTW: I used an external CD-ROM drive with my SS20 clone and installed just 
fine from CD1-20040921 (not netinst).

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Re: Problem installing on a SparcStation 20

2004-11-10 Thread Tomislav Renic
On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 05:20:50PM +0100, Le grand pinguin wrote:
 
 Hello list,
 
 i just downloaded and burned the iso images of
 the debian installer CD for sparc (sarge-sparc-netinst.iso ).
 Unfortunately, the box fails to boot up - the last kernel message
 reads:
 
  setting console mode to unicode (UTF-8)
 
 
 and then a never-ending stream of Segmentation fault  follows ...
 Any ideas what i need to do to get by this problem?
 
  TIA Ralf Mattes

Unless you are looking at testing and reporting problems with the new debian
installer, your best be will be to download a woody install image and
boot from that.  

After you install the base system, do a dist-upgrade and you should be
ready to go.  If you just want to get back to work, this is the way to
go about it.

Good luck,
Tomislav Renic



Re: Problem installing on a SparcStation 20

2004-11-10 Thread Le grand pinguin
On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 11:44:59PM -0500, Tomislav Renic wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 05:20:50PM +0100, Le grand pinguin wrote:
  
  Hello list,
  
  i just downloaded and burned the iso images of
  the debian installer CD for sparc (sarge-sparc-netinst.iso ).
  Unfortunately, the box fails to boot up - the last kernel message
  reads:
  
   setting console mode to unicode (UTF-8)
  
  
  and then a never-ending stream of Segmentation fault  follows ...
  Any ideas what i need to do to get by this problem?
  
   TIA Ralf Mattes
 
 Unless you are looking at testing and reporting problems with the new debian
 installer, your best be will be to download a woody install image and
 boot from that.  

Hmm, that's how i started, but unfortunately my woody installation 
(vers. info Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r2 Woody - Official sparc Binary-1 CD)
doesn't even get this far - it stops during the early boot with a message
that claims that the root fs can't be mounted via NFS (???) and prompts
me to insert a root floppy (which is kind of hard considering the fact that
my box doesn't _have_ a floppy drive. I'd hate to have to install a floppy
just to install Debian).


Thanks

   RalfD

 After you install the base system, do a dist-upgrade and you should be
 ready to go.  If you just want to get back to work, this is the way to
 go about it.
 
 Good luck,
 Tomislav Renic
 
 
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Re: Problem installing on a SparcStation 20

2004-11-10 Thread Alex Yung


On 11/10/2004 10:51 AM, Le grand pinguin wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 11:44:59PM -0500, Tomislav Renic wrote:
 
On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 05:20:50PM +0100, Le grand pinguin wrote:

Hello list,

i just downloaded and burned the iso images of
the debian installer CD for sparc (sarge-sparc-netinst.iso ).
Unfortunately, the box fails to boot up - the last kernel message
reads:

 setting console mode to unicode (UTF-8)


and then a never-ending stream of Segmentation fault  follows ...
Any ideas what i need to do to get by this problem?

 TIA Ralf Mattes

Unless you are looking at testing and reporting problems with the new debian
installer, your best be will be to download a woody install image and
boot from that.  
 
 
 Hmm, that's how i started, but unfortunately my woody installation 
 (vers. info Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r2 Woody - Official sparc Binary-1 CD)
 doesn't even get this far - it stops during the early boot with a message
 that claims that the root fs can't be mounted via NFS (???) and prompts
 me to insert a root floppy (which is kind of hard considering the fact that
 my box doesn't _have_ a floppy drive. I'd hate to have to install a floppy
 just to install Debian).
 
 
 Thanks
 
RalfD
 
 
After you install the base system, do a dist-upgrade and you should be
ready to go.  If you just want to get back to work, this is the way to
go about it.

Good luck,
Tomislav Renic

Are you trying to do a netboot installation?  If you just boot from the
cdrom without any parameter, the kernel will not try to do NFS mount.  If
you are doing netboot, which tftpboot.img did you use?  I just finished my
netboot installation, the kernel does not do NFS mount.  I manually selected
it during the installation.



Re: Problem installing on a SparcStation 20

2004-11-10 Thread Tomislav Renic
On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 05:51:59PM +0100, Le grand pinguin wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 11:44:59PM -0500, Tomislav Renic wrote:
  On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 05:20:50PM +0100, Le grand pinguin wrote:
   
   Hello list,
   
   i just downloaded and burned the iso images of
   the debian installer CD for sparc (sarge-sparc-netinst.iso ).
   Unfortunately, the box fails to boot up - the last kernel message
   reads:
   
setting console mode to unicode (UTF-8)
   
   
   and then a never-ending stream of Segmentation fault  follows ...
   Any ideas what i need to do to get by this problem?
   
TIA Ralf Mattes
  
  Unless you are looking at testing and reporting problems with the new debian
  installer, your best be will be to download a woody install image and
  boot from that.  
 
 Hmm, that's how i started, but unfortunately my woody installation 
 (vers. info Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r2 Woody - Official sparc Binary-1 CD)
 doesn't even get this far - it stops during the early boot with a message
 that claims that the root fs can't be mounted via NFS (???) and prompts
 me to insert a root floppy (which is kind of hard considering the fact that
 my box doesn't _have_ a floppy drive. I'd hate to have to install a floppy
 just to install Debian).


You probably get the following error:
Root-NFS: No NFS server available, giving up.
VFS: Unable to mount root fs via NFS, Trying floppy.
VFS: Insert root floppy and press ENTER

I have seen other people with this problem but can't think of any
solutions to it. 

I think you can tell silo on the boot cdrom where the root.tgz is
located on the CD...

Sorry,
Tomislav



Re: Problem installing on a SparcStation 20

2004-11-10 Thread Le grand pinguin
On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 12:13:25AM -0500, Tomislav Renic wrote:

 [...]

 You probably get the following error:
 Root-NFS: No NFS server available, giving up.
 VFS: Unable to mount root fs via NFS, Trying floppy.
 VFS: Insert root floppy and press ENTER

Yes, that's the one i get.

 I have seen other people with this problem but can't think of any
 solutions to it. 

So i've heard. BTW, the sparc install manual does mention problems
with sparc10/20 in section 5.2 Booting from a CD-ROM:

 Note that some problems have been reported on Sun4m (e.g., Sparc 10s
 and Sparc 20s) systems booting from CD-ROM.

It would've been _awfully_ nice to include a little bit more information -
this sentence is of no help at all (is _my_ problem the one that was all-
ready reported? If so, i would feel rather stupid to report it once again.
But where would i find these reported problems? Mailing list, bugtracker?).

 I think you can tell silo on the boot cdrom where the root.tgz is
 located on the CD...

Ok, i'll ckeck the silo manuals. But what about the problem with the
sarge installation CD - a segfault during init isn't realy a nice 
thing ...
 
 Thanks RalfD

 
 Sorry,
 Tomislav
 
 
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Re: Problem installing on a SparcStation 20

2004-11-10 Thread Blars Blarson
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Hello list,

i just downloaded and burned the iso images of
the debian installer CD for sparc (sarge-sparc-netinst.iso ).

Which one?

Unfortunately, the box fails to boot up - the last kernel message
reads:

 setting console mode to unicode (UTF-8)


and then a never-ending stream of Segmentation fault  follows ...
Any ideas what i need to do to get by this problem?

This problem has been fixed, rebroken, and refixed.

Try a current daily build.

(Alternate workaround is to tell d-i not to use the framebuffer, I
forget the exact incantation needed.)


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