Re: find question (and xargs)
I have come at the following but it doesn't work (and can't figger
out why not from the manpages).
find / -size +459976c -noleaf -type f -name '*.deb'|\
xargs -n 1 dpkg-split -s {} rm {}
I was thinking that {} would be replaced by the filename but that's
not the case. Anyone know how to solve this?
The {} substitution happens only in a -exec argument;
you're using it after the find command.
Try find / -size +459976c -noleaf -type f -name '*.deb' -exec \
dpkg-split -s {} rm {}
Ray
Re: X Windows
On Mon, 13 May 1996, Dale Scheetz wrote: I am somewhat put off by the hodge podge of packages in the x11 section. I know I need: xserver_x I chose xserver_svga xlib xbase xfntbase xmanpages fvwm2 Actually you don't need the xmanpages package; it contains the manpages to do with X development. Manpages for the standard X clients are included in the xbase package. Is there anything else I need for a minimal X installation? How do I tell (asside from examining dependencies and description fields) which of the other packages in this section are desirable, necessary, objectionable, etc... I'd love some pointers on what's left as well. The minimum local X installation is xlib, xbase, xfntbase and an X server package. You're likely to want xcontrib as well; it contains some very useful clients. The reason that X is split up into so many packages is that it's so _big_ and there are so many different things it can be used for. For instance, sometimes people want to set up a large machine as a server, and lock it away in a room. This machine will have a minimal display card, and will not run an X server locally. It might have all the fonts installed, and could run a font server. Other machines could then be set up with only the X server package; they would read fonts from the font server, and the clients would all run on the main server. Steve Early [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X Windows
On Sun, 12 May 1996, Dale Scheetz wrote: The graphics card in my machine is a Trident TGUI 9440 AGI which the docs say is not yet supported (as of June of 95) but that someone was working on it. Has there been any news? Get XFree86's latest beta, 3.1.2D. Use the SVGA server. I use the 9660xgi, but I understand the 9440 works quite well. -- Run.exe First Law of the Universe: No law applies to ALL of the Universe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntplx.net/~runexe/ Finger me for PGP key
making sendmail not use DNS (Was: Re: diald)
Richard Kettlewell said: Also, do someone know how to ask sendmail really not to make DNS queries? This is somewhat that starts up diald when one does not want, and it is really annoying. In your m4 file, use the following options: FEATURE(nodns) FEATURE(nocanonify) I have them already for a long time. Sendmail still does DNS queries, for example to try to contact my smarthost. I could try to put just this one in /etc/hosts but I'm not sure it will suffice (I'll tell if it does). Yves.
Checking if the network is up
Hi, just to thank everybody for ansering my query about checking if the network was up. I am using fping to my gateway and it works fine. I have as always also learnt a lot from you all! Thanks, Luis.
Re: tk tcl and dependecies
I'm copying this to debian-user since others may be confused as well. I found that installing tk41 in stead of tk40 will break several dependencies. Packages exist that depend on tk40 and won't be installed easily with tk41. Another thing is that those packages are compiled with links to /usr/lib/libtk4.0.so and can't work with /usr/lib/libtk4.1.so. (Because of this the dependencies are ok) That's the way it was intended. But if they had been compiled to /usr/lib/libtk4.so or even /usr/lib/libtk.so this problem wouldn't occur. Should tk40 and or tk41 provide a package named tk? and should these packages provide the mentioned library names? Tcl7.4/Tk4.0 and Tcl7.5/Tk4.1 are NOT fully compatible at the C level. Binaries built with Tcl7.4/Tk4.0 are not compatible with Tcl7.5/Tk4.1 and vice versa. To cope with this, the run-time packages are completely independent. You can have all of tcl74, tk40, tcl75 and tk41 installed if you like. Of course, you still only have one set of development packages installed at a time. David -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1101 E. Arapaho Road (214) 234-6400 Richardson, TX 75081
Re: Dselect proposed interface.
Kevin M Bealer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also someone suggested there be an installed size parameter in the packages file... this probably wouldn't be a bad idea. This is an excellent idea. What would really be helpful is the following: Size of current package Total size of selected packages Space left The Total size of selected packages would not be absolute. If a selected package is an update of an already installed package, then its contribution to the total size of selected packages should be the difference of its current size and the size of the already installed package (could be negative!). This would make the total size of selected packages more representative of the chunk of disk that it will take up. Unless, of course, the update is not *replacing* the existing package, in which case its contribution to the total size would be absolute. The Space left would show the estimated space left after subtracting the total size of selected packages. This would make it easy to play what-if games in the installation process. Note that all the affected filesystems must be considered and displayed. Since most of my GNU system is in /, it would be nice to display that on the main screen, and display the subordinate filesystems on a separate screen. However, it should also be possible to select other filesystems to display on the main screen. Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph: +1-415-854-1857 fax: +1-415-854-3195 Say it with MIME. Maintainer of comp.mail.mh and news.software.nn FAQs. If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane.
Re: /etc/psdevtab?
Scott Barker writes: eckes said: its a map between Minor/Major Device numbers and Device Names. This is needed for programs like ps which want to print the device names for given inodes. This table is created automatically, if you run ps (from the procps package in the base) the first time. This speeds up ps a big time and reduces the amount of 'stats' in the /dev/ directory on the following invokations of ps. I guess it doesn't work, then. I've got a 12288 byte file full of zeros. I don't even have it :-( Why? Was it removed from the latest base package installation proc.? YA.
Re: X Windows
On Mon, 13 May 1996, Susan G. Kleinmann wrote: One of the joys of getting X up is that you'll get Netscape up and then you'll be able to use DejaNews to answer every question under the Sun! Switching to a Cyrrus Logic card solved the major problem. Now I only have a hand full of little ones :-) First, when I try and install the netscape package, I get: (Reading database ... 13477 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace netscape (using netscape-2.01-2.deb) ... Unpacking replacement netscape ... Setting up netscape ... ERROR: The Netscape archive must be in /tmp under the name /tmp/netscape-v201-export.i486-unknown-linux.tar.[Z|gz] dpkg: error processing netscape (--install): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: netscape I realize that I need to get this archive before I can do the installation. Where do I find this beast? How come the installation doesn't point me to it? I looked in contrib, non-free, etc... and didn't find anything. I think in addition to the packages you mentioned, you'll want to get xpm4.7 (for fvwm2 -- I think you want fvwm2 rather than fvwm). I also find myself always getting xfntpex. Fvwm2 installs fine once you install xpm4.7. However, since fvwm2 is not in the /etc/window-managers file. Shouldn't this file contain all of the window managers that are available under Debian X? Then there's the issue of really doing something with X. What you need then depends on what you want to do. When I decide what I want to add, how do I hang it on the menu system? Is there a good user tutorial? In particular, I can start the xserver either as root or as a user, but I can't seem to do both. Once root cranks up the xserver, how does a user gain access to the server? TIA, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 877-0257 Flexible Software Fax: NONE Black Creek Critters e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you don't see what you want, just ask --
Re: problems with mailagent
Ahh, I see. [I am copying this to debian user, since the answer maybe useful to others as well.] People using mailagent with popclient may want to run mailagent by itself after downloading mail from the server9since popclient delivers directly yo the spool file, not honoring .forward files), like so: % mailagent -f /var/spool/mail/username Fron the manpage: -f mailfileUsing mailfile as a UNIX-style mailbox (i.e. one where each mail is preceded by a special From line stating the sender and the date the message was issued), extract all its mes- sages into the queue and process them as if they were freshly arrived from the mail delivery subsystem. manoj -- When, however, the lay public rallies round an idea that is denounced by distinguished but elderly scientists and supports that idea with great fervor and emotion--the distinguished but elderly scientists are then, after all, probably right. --Isaac Asimov %% Manoj Srivastava Systems Research Programmer, Project Pilgrim, Phone: (413) 545-3918A143B Lederle Graduate Research Center, Fax: (413) 545-1249 University of Massachusetts, Amherst, MA 01003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.pilgrim.umass.edu/%7Esrivasta/
Re: find question (and xargs)
Hi all,
this might be a more unix oriented question but I'll ask it anyway
because it is very debian related too:
I would like to find packages bigger than 459976 bytes and split them
with dpkg-split, if splitting is succesfull I'll remove the package.
I have come at the following but it doesn't work (and can't figger
out why not from the manpages).
find / -size +459976c -noleaf -type f -name '*.deb'|\
xargs -n 1 dpkg-split -s {} rm {}
I was thinking that {} would be replaced by the filename but that's
not the case. Anyone know how to solve this?
Basically this is right, the {}'s get converted to the file name in
*find's argument list*. The arg list is ended at the |, because then
a new program is started.
Possible Solution:
use find's exec option:
find / -size +459976c -noleaf -type f -name '*.deb' -exec dpkg-split -s {} \
-exec rm {}
Be careful to quote the {{}'s appropriately, or the shell may munge them
into something different.
A more efficient solution would be to write a small perl program along the
lines:
sub dodir {
my ($dir) = shift;
opendir DIR, $dir;
while (readdir(DIR)) {
maybesplit if -f;
dodir($_) if -d;
}
closedir(DIR);
}
dodir($ARGV[1]);
--
Cheerio, Jan
Jan Wender - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Universitaet Trier, Germany
Linux is the choice of a Gnu.
The man who letterspaces lowercase letters also steals sheep (F. Goudy)
Re: problems compiling with R0.93
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Magnus Therning) wrote on 12.05.96 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: When I try to compile my own hello world program I get these error messages: gcc -g -o hello -L/usr/X11R6/lib hello.o -lXaw -lXt -lX11 ld: Output file requires shared library `libc.so.4' gcc: Internal compiler error: program ld got fatal signal 6 make: *** [hello] Error 1 I seem to remember that one from some time ago on (I think) the linux-gcc list. Just remove the -g. It's a problem in the binutils, but AFAIK you don't really need that -g anyway *in the link step*. MfG Kai
Re: unstable Packages file
I notice the Packages file for the unstable tree at ftp.debian.org is out of date. I though it was updated automatically? Perhaps not... We know about the problem and are trying to fix it. David -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1101 E. Arapaho Road (214) 234-6400 Richardson, TX 75081
fvwm2: button functions missing...
I am using fvwm2-2.0.42-beta-0 on debian 1.1. I have just discovered that there are some button functions missing. The menu from the top-left corner does not appear when I click on the top-left button. Also no list of windows when I click on the right mouse button. The raise and lowering buttons on the top right work. (I also tried fvwm-1.24r-22 when I discovered this. But that one is worse: cannot open any xterm from the .fvwmrc file.) Derek Lee
Re: 1.1 setup for /dev/xconsole?
If you try bringing up xconsole and see nothing, then it's possible that you've already been logging messages for a while and the pipe filled up, so Has anyone noticed that with recent kernels, the pipe to xconsole fills up on boot up before boot up is finished, which causes all kinds of problems. This started around 1.3.65 and still is a problem, so I stopeed using xconsole. I'm using 1.3.71, no probs with xconsole, system is a (to 1.1) upgraded 0.93R6. Maarten ___ | Maarten Boekhold, Faculty of Electrical Engineering TU Delft, NL | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Take life as a party! | ---
Re: Must pppd be run by root?
On Sun, 12 May 1996, Rob Browning wrote: R == Richard Kettlewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: R pppd has to do various messing around creating network interfaces R and so on, so running it as (not root) is a bit of a non-starter. R Why do you want it to be able to run it not as root? two words: DIAL-IN USERS Right, pppd really needs to be run as root. You don't want just any user killing your net connection. If you want to let a selected set of users bring the net connection up and down, check out sudo. It's designed for this. This permissions problem just cost me over $44 (australian dollars). I upgraded pppd on the dialin machine at work on Friday night. Forgot to change the permissions on pppd to make it owned by root.ppp, perms=1750. When the line dropped out from my home machine to my work machine at 5am the next morning, my home system automatically dialed in to re-establish the link. Logged in OK, ran pppd. The connection dropped again because it didn't have the right perms. My system then proceeded to call every 2 minutes, until I got home and stopped it at about 11am. A local call here in Australia costs 25 cents. An expensive mistake. The postinst for ppp package SHOULD ask if permissions on /usr/sbin/pppd should be changed. Craig
Re: find question (and xargs)
Hi all,
this might be a more unix oriented question but I'll ask it anyway
because it is very debian related too:
I would like to find packages bigger than 459976 bytes and split them
with dpkg-split, if splitting is succesfull I'll remove the package.
I have come at the following but it doesn't work (and can't figger
out why not from the manpages).
find / -size +459976c -noleaf -type f -name '*.deb'|\
xargs -n 1 dpkg-split -s {} rm {}
How is xargs to know what {} stands for? {} works in the -exec
part in find, not for xargs.
Probably what you want is:
find / -size +459976c -noleaf -type f -name '*.deb' \
-exec sh -c dpkg-split -s {} rm {} \;
--
joost witteveen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Use Debian Linux!
Re: configuring ghostscript...
I have a HP laser printer model LJ5P. I always use gs as my filter for postscript files. Unfortunately the drivers in gs only access the low resolution mode in my printer (plain laserjet driver). Does anyone has the driver for 600 dpi mode, for ghostscript? Well, as far as I know there isn't a ljet5 driver for ghostscript: (from the gs-3.53 devs.mak file) [...] # * lj250 DEC LJ250 Companion color printer # + ljet2p H-P LaserJet IId/IIp/III* with TIFF compression # + ljet3 H-P LaserJet III* with Delta Row compression # + ljet3d H-P LaserJet IIID with duplex capability # + ljet4 H-P LaserJet 4 (defaults to 600 dpi) # + lj4dith H-P LaserJet 4 with Floyd-Steinberg dithering # + ljetplus H-P LaserJet Plus # * lp2563 H-P 2563B line printer [...] So that looks like you're out of luck. You could try to use gs -sDEVICE=ljet4 -r600x600 maybe that works (I guess not, but it's worth the try). BTW, kids, don't try executing gs -r600x600 in Xwindows: that made my 24M ram +60M swap system swap for about 15 min, untill I killed gs, after whitch it continued swapping for about 10 min. Now it's back to normal again. output of top afterwords -- using 49M swap for 2 emacs sessions and 4 xterms? 78 processes: 76 sleeping, 1 running, 1 zombie, 0 stopped CPU states: 2.2% user, 6.2% system, 0.0% nice, 91.8% idle Mem: 23012K av, 22676K used, 336K free, 5592K shrd, 236K buff Swap: 61484K av, 49200K used, 12284K free2644K cached PID USER PRI NI SIZE RES SHRD STAT %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND 21798 root 1 0 47100 13100 472 S 0.1 56.9 87:13 /usr/X11R6/bin/X sorry if I am asking this in the wrong list. Well, the list is OK, but I guess we're not able to provide you with a satisfying answer. -- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Use Debian Linux!
Re: find question (and xargs)
Hi users,
I found the solution (with help from Steve Preston, Kenvin Dalley,
Ray Dassen and Jan Wender).
now I use the following:
find /home/ftp/pub/debian -size +459976c -noleaf -type f -name '*.deb'| \
xargs -l -i sh -c dpkg --info {} /dev/null dpkg-split -s {} rm {}
This gives a lot of evil messages about packages not being a debian
archive because they are the splitted archives of a previous run and
not all splitted archives are exactly 459976 or smaller (unfortunately).
I use the dpkg --info command to test whether it is a package.
Erick
--
Erick [EMAIL PROTECTED] +31-10-4635142
Department of General Surgery (Intensive Care) University Hospital Rotterdam NL
Re: diald (Was: Re: Must pppd be run by root?)
The diald package removes all the hassle of starting and shutting down network connections over a transient link, incidentally - you might like to investuigate that. Is there a debianized version of diald 0.14 out there? (ELF). With the dctrl tk tool, too! (I can email it to the one making the package if needed). The debian package hasn't been upgraded to 0.14 yet. Would someone please do this. David -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1101 E. Arapaho Road (214) 234-6400 Richardson, TX 75081
making sendmail not use DNS (Was: Re: diald)
Richard Kettlewell said: Also, do someone know how to ask sendmail really not to make DNS queries? This is somewhat that starts up diald when one does not want, and it is really annoying. In your m4 file, use the following options: FEATURE(nodns) FEATURE(nocanonify) -- Scott Barker Linux Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cuug.ab.ca:8001/~barkers/ (under construction) [ I try to reply to all e-mail within 5 days. If you don't ] [ get a response by then, I probably didn't get your e-mail ] [ (we have a sometimes sporadic connection to the internet) ] An ambassador is a man of virtue sent to lie abroad for his country; a news-writer is a man without virtue who lies at home for himself. - Sir Henry Wotton, Reliquae Wottonianae
Re: Dselect proposed interface (was Re: 1.1 installation notes.)
Looks OK (we can include a mouse interface). But what is required more then a new look is the ability to list only the 'installed' packages, or select a singe package to be installed/removed, and a method of seeing which package (installed) is older than its archive version (and will therefore be updated). Don't forget a way of seeing just what new packages are available and whether those are upgrades of installed packages, new packages in the distribution, or uninstalled packages that you've rejected before (ala 'dftp'). Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not.
Re: find question (and xargs)
find / -size +459976c -noleaf -type f -name '*.deb'|\
xargs -n 1 dpkg-split -s {} rm {}
I was thinking that {} would be replaced by the filename but that's
not the case. Anyone know how to solve this?
Find only replaces {} with the filename under -exec. You have piped
the output of the implicit -print command into 'xargs'. You must either
use xargs' substitution method:
find / -size +459976c -noleaf -type f -name '*.deb' |\
xargs -n 1 -i{} dpkg-split -s {} rm {} # I think...
or change find:
find / -size +459976c -noleaf -type f -name '*.deb' \
-exec dpkg-split -s {} rm {} \;
Brian
( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )
---
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not.
Re: problems compiling with R0.93
When I try to compile my own hello world program I get these error messages: gcc -g -o hello -L/usr/X11R6/lib hello.o -lXaw -lXt -lX11 ld: Output file requires shared library `libc.so.4' gcc: Internal compiler error: program ld got fatal signal 6 make: *** [hello] Error 1 Compiling the program with: gcc -g -c hello.c works fine, but the linking part just won't work. It's funny because I've successfully compiled the 'xli' package on my machine. And I have checked, I do have the libc.so.4 library in the /lib directory. The problem is that the shared X libraries need the shared libc but the old, a.out gcc links in a static debug version of libc called libg when -g is used. Either don't link with -g so the shared libc will be used or add -static so the shared X libraries won't be used. David -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1101 E. Arapaho Road (214) 234-6400 Richardson, TX 75081
Re: diald (Was: Re: Must pppd be run by root?)
Hi, Yves == Yves Arrouye [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yves Is there a debianized version of diald 0.14 out there? Yves (ELF). With the dctrl tk tool, too! (I can email it to the one Yves making the package if needed). well, it's not out there, but I have one I built for personal use (I like making personal, debian, packages just to be able to use the packaging tools) after getting fed up with diald being a CPU hog (which it does for kernels after 1.3.84, I believe, unless one upgrades to diald-0.14). I keep meaning to ask the author if I should release it in the interim. I'll do so tonight. manoj -- For oh! so wildly do I love him That paradise itself were dim And joyless, if not shared with him. -- Moore %% Manoj Srivastava Systems Research Programmer, Project Pilgrim, Phone: (413) 545-3918A143B Lederle Graduate Research Center, Fax: (413) 545-1249 University of Massachusetts, Amherst, MA 01003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.pilgrim.umass.edu/%7Esrivasta/
Re: Must pppd be run by root?
Craig Sanders writes: On Sun, 12 May 1996, Rob Browning wrote: R == Richard Kettlewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: R pppd has to do various messing around creating network interfaces R and so on, so running it as (not root) is a bit of a non-starter. R Why do you want it to be able to run it not as root? two words: DIAL-IN USERS Right, pppd really needs to be run as root. You don't want just any user killing your net connection. If you want to let a selected set of users bring the net connection up and down, check out sudo. It's designed for this. This permissions problem just cost me over $44 (australian dollars). I upgraded pppd on the dialin machine at work on Friday night. Forgot to change the permissions on pppd to make it owned by root.ppp, perms=1750. When the line dropped out from my home machine to my work machine at 5am the next morning, my home system automatically dialed in Under the control of what user? Why not root? to re-establish the link. Logged in OK, ran pppd. The connection dropped again because it didn't have the right perms. My system then proceeded to call every 2 minutes, until I got home and stopped it at about 11am. ttfn/rjk
Re: /etc/psdevtab?
On Mon, 13 May 1996, Yves Arrouye wrote: I don't even have it :-( Why? Was it removed from the latest base package installation proc.? Run ps as root, and you'll have it. See the ps manpage for details. Guy
Re: X Windows
On Mon, 13 May 1996, Kevin M Bealer wrote: I don't think you technically need fvwm2, (but it's nice.) Also rxvt is supposed better on mem than xterm, and xcontrib probably has neat stuff but I've never uninstalled it to see what disappeared. Most people will use xkeycaps eventually since every person who installs X seems to have to fiddle with bkspc/delete and fix them. You will want some other stuff if you intend to _compile_ anything which is X'ed. As for your graphics drivers, I would strongly recommend taking that to an X11 newsgroup if you have access to one... not that this list is overtrafficed, just you will get more responses; some of the hardware X11 lists are 100 messages or so / day last I checked :) Thanks to everyone for their responses. I swapped to a Cirrus Logic CL-GD5430 and have a working X. The new server installation software is very helpful in building a working config file. The last time I installed X, I had to edit the config by hand, referencing the driver database and other docs to get it right. If you have the manual for your monitor and video card in hand you come out the other end of the installation script with a working config file. Good work! I installed fvwm2 but still get the xterm that comes as the default. I used to know who and where the config files were, but can't seem to find my way around. Where should I start (after Matt's book and usr/doc)? BTW, what does TIA mean? Thanks In Advance! :-) Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 877-0257 Flexible Software Fax: NONE Black Creek Critters e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you don't see what you want, just ask --
Re: Dselect proposed interface (was Re: 1.1 installation notes.)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes (Re: Dselect proposed interface (was Re: 1.1 installation notes.)): ... Looks OK (we can include a mouse interface). But what is required more then a new look is the ability to list only the 'installed' packages, or select a singe package to be installed/removed, and a method of seeing which package (installed) is older than its archive version (and will therefore be updated). Much of this will be in the next version of dpkg. Ian.
Re: find question (and xargs)
On Mon, 13 May 1996, Erick Branderhorst wrote:
find / -size +459976c -noleaf -type f -name '*.deb'|\
xargs -n 1 dpkg-split -s {} rm {}
I was thinking that {} would be replaced by the filename but that's
not the case. Anyone know how to solve this?
Two mistakes and an admonition:
You need to give -i to xargs to use the {} syntax.
You need to escape the so that the rm will be part of the command.
For safety, you should always use -print0, -0 with find and xargs.
So do this instead:
find / -size +459976c -noleaf -type f -name '*.deb' -print0 |\
xargs -0 -n 1 -i dpkg-split -s {} \\ rm {}
Guy
Re: disabling daemons from init.d
Jean Orloff writes (Re: disabling daemons from init.d ): [Ed Donovan writes:] like to conserve as much memory as I can. My question is, what's the best way for me to disable the services started by the init scripts like netbase netstd, etc, while not deleting the files? At first, I moved the S* links, from rc2.d to an 'unused' directory. That did stop them loading, but with all the remaining links to the scripts in other runlevel directories, it seemed half-assed messy, although init didn't complain. What happens if I move the actual scripts the links reference (I'm too new at admin-ing to be that experimental)? If anyone wants to say, (deep voice) This is the cleanest way, son, that'd be great. There is something called update-rc.d which is dealing with all these links cleanly. usage: update-rc.d basename remove update-rc.d basename defaults [cn | scn kcn] update-rc.d basename start|stop cn r r . ... I guess you wish to use the remove option, which kills the links while leaving the scripts intact. Was my voice deep enough ?-; Don't do this: if you do then the next time you (re)install one of the package(s) whose links you've removed it will put them back, thinking that the package was completely purged and the configuration needs to be reset. Simply remove the S* links from the rc?.d directories where you don't want the programs run. If you leave at least one K* link then it will see that there is an old configuration and not overwrite it during upgrades. Ian.
3D Graphics Cards?
Is anyone out there using 3D graphics cards with Linux? The only one I know about is the Matrox Millenium that works with Accellerated X. I need X support and Open GL, and as much rendering power as possible. Thanks Bruce
Re: Bug with su and /usr/bin/zsh. Any idea?
With the zsh package version 2.6-beta13-2, there is something really strange happening when root uses zsh: if I do a % su I get a new shell that is *not* a root one, where when I do % su - I effectively get a root shell. This is especially strange as the su command works perfectly with bash, csh and ksh. I removed all /etc/z* login/env files without affecting the bug. Any idea about what's happening? Maybe should I file a bug report too... I can't reproduce this; however, you might make sure you don't have `su' aliased to something under zsh. Check with `which'. (I used to have a similar problem because I aliased su to su -p; chpwd. This prevented me from giving any arguments to `su', for example to become a user other than root.) -- Robert Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
beta 1.1 problems with 3c503 and the debian search system.
The search system has not responded tonight while I was searching for a solution to this problem. I have just installed the root and base diskettes and performed a basic configuration of v 1.1 on a raw system. I have a 3com 3c503 ethernet card that is apparently not recognized. I seem to recall a previous posting on 3c503 card problems with beta 1.1. another question(s): what good is an extensive mailing list archive if the search system does not work? Also, why do the debian archives seem to have so much trouble? is it growing pains or otherwise? (yes, i know this is a volunteer organization, but i also really want to use debian, not just play with it!) -- /--\ | James D. Freels, P.E._i, Ph.D. | Phone: (423)576-8645 | | L | | Oak Ridge National Laboratory | FAX:(423)574-9172 | H | I | | Research Reactors Division | Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | F | N | | P. O. Box 2008 | Reactor Technology | I | U | | Oak Ridge, Tennessee 37831-6392 | world's best neutrons! | R | X | |--| | out the 10Base-T, through the router, down the T1, over the | | leased line, off the bridge, past the firewall...nothing but Net | \--/
Re: 'unsupported packages' (was Re: uugetty?)
On Tue, 7 May 1996, Steffen Mueller wrote: Maybe there should be an 'unsupported' directory for packages which have been released but don't have an active maintainer...or is this what 'contrib' is for? Also, allow any package in 'unsupported' can be adopted by anyone who takes the time to actively maintain it. That's okay so far but it doesn't guarantee bug maintainance. Assume all those folks going to install some of these packages and run into trouble Yep, that's why any 'unsupported' directory would have to be clearly marked Something like: WARNING * WARNING * WARNING ** WARNING * * * These packages are unsupported. That means: * * * * USE AT YOUR OWN RISK (like the rest of Debian but even more so) * * NO SUPPORT AVAILABLE.* * YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN WITH THESE PACKAGES. * * BUG REPORTS WILL PROBABLY BE IGNORED.* * * * These packages have no active maintainer. They may be old * * versions. They may not work. They may do weird things. * * * * They may work perfectly. * * * ** Volunteers Welcome ** * * * If you care about a package in here, 'adopt' it and become * * the official Debian maintainer. Read the Debian Developer's * * Guidlines to find out what this entails. * * * WARNING * WARNING * WARNING ** WARNING ought to do it :-) Generally packaging unsupportet files would be okay as long as those packages are marked UNSUPPORTET or orpahned. If someone adopts it it can make its way into one of the common directories with a small comment adopted 96 by John Doe + Maintainer : Yep. That's what I meant. If the 'Maintainer:' field in debian.control was 'UNSUPPORTED', then the bug tracking system could then be modified to send a form letter back for any bug report on an unsupported package saying you might get some help from other users but don't count on it Craig
Re: 1.1 setup for /dev/xconsole?
In [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maarten Boekhold [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you try bringing up xconsole and see nothing, then it's possible that you've already been logging messages for a while and the pipe filled up, so Has anyone noticed that with recent kernels, the pipe to xconsole fills up on boot up before boot up is finished, which causes all kinds of problems. This started around 1.3.65 and still is a problem, so I stopeed using xconsole. I'm using 1.3.71, no probs with xconsole, system is a (to 1.1) upgraded 0.93R6. Several people have written saying they haven't seen this problem, so it may be a result of how large your bootup messages are. I have a lot of scsi devices on my machine, so my bootup info dumped to syslog is 3862 bytes and 79 lines, and this doesn't include any daemons initialized before X starts and xconsole can be read. I definately found I was overflowing the pipe as removing the syslog output to /dev/xconsole cleared up all my hanging problems. --
Re: beta 1.1 problems with 3c503 and the debian search system.
The search system has not responded tonight while I was searching for a solution to this problem. has not reponded is a very vague description. Can you give a better one please? another question(s): what good is an extensive mailing list archive if the search system does not work? Also, why do the debian archives seem to have so much trouble? is it growing pains or otherwise? The problem is that www.debian.org (== ftp.debian.org) is on a separate system from master.debian.org, the developers machine. www.debian.org is hosted at Central Michigan University, on a machine that - due to lack of drivers for Linux or *BSD - runs Solaris. It is maintained remotely across the atlanic by yours truely. The connection is sometimes painfully slow, and I also also have an MSc thesis to produce. In case of problems with the WWW server, I appreciate it if they are reported to me directly. Greetings, Ray
Re: NFS -- PC with DOS
What DOS-Client do you use? I had success some time ago with XFS, a ftp-able DOS-Client. You selected the pcnfsd-Option in linux-kernel too? Just suggestions. - Andreas. -- Uni Wuppertal, FB Elektrotechnik, Tel/Fax: (0202) 439 - 3009 Andreas Wehler; email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
network with ETHERLINK 3
I am unable to configure my system with a EtherLink III ( 3C509B-TP ). Does any body had this kind of problem before. Thanks for helping me, Patrick.
Re: where is gs man page?
In Debian 1.1 beta, there seams to have no man page installed for the gs package, there is a directory /usr/doc/gs full of ghostscript documents though. Do one really need the gs man pages? If so, how to install one? This is a major bug indeed! It is caused by the gs-makefile not allowing me to specify a man-page directory, and putting al documentation in /usr/doc/gs. This is where the old gs-2.62-1.deb has the gs.1.gz file -- not very good. I have yesterday made gs-2.62-2, that corrects this, (and a few more things) Godfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the bug-reporting! -- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Use Debian Linux!
Re: Dselect proposed interface (was Re: 1.1 installation notes.)
Looks OK (we can include a mouse interface). But what is required more then a new look is the ability to list only the 'installed' packages, or select a singe package to be installed/removed, and a method of seeing which package (installed) is older than its archive version (and will therefore be updated). About the interface, it'd be nice to have something mc-ish. (mc = Midnight Commander; get it and take a look if you don't have it, there's a Debian package for it). It's got pull-down menus and dialog boxes... it's very nice, supports gpm mice and is something DOS people will recognize instantly. And since mc is GPL'ed, we could borrow their low-level interface code. Would save quite a bit of coding work and would make for a nice interface, IMHO at least. Christian
Re: X Windows
I installed fvwm2 but still get the xterm that comes as the default. If you start X with 'xinit' or 'startx' and do _not_ have an X startup script in your home directory, you will be punished by being presented with an X term that could only be read by people under the age of 20. You can circumvent this by including a file called .xinirc or .xsession in your home directory. I recommend .xsession, since all of the three X startup methods (xinit, startx, and xdm) look for it. Below please find my simple .xsession file. It invokes 2 xterms, both with fonts big enough for me to see: - #!/bin/sh # This file is called by /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc xrdb -load $HOME/.Xdefaults oclock -g +1152+0 xterm -sb -sl 1500 -fn 12x24 -g 80x24+9+1 xterm -sb -sl 1500 -fn 12x24 -g 80x24+291+418 xsetroot -solid SteelBlue fvwm - Note that (unlike .xinitrc) .xsession need not be a Bourne shell script, but _must_ be executable. Hope that helps. Susan Kleinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
