Re: printing and .profile problems

1996-08-08 Thread chris beamis


Success!

Thanks to everyone's copious outpouring of hints and advice, I easily fixed
both my .profile and my printing problems.

1. I'm using bash and sure enough both the .bash_profile and .bashrc files
were sitting right there in the user's home directory waiting to be noticed.
I'm guessing that Slackware must not install those files there which is why
I didn't have this problem previously.

2. I fixed the problem of the user not being able to print by fixing
ownerships and permissions, namely:

  rwxrwsr_x   root   lp /usr/spool/lpd/hp4p

and changed the five files, /usr/spool/lpd/hp4p/.seq, /errs, /input_filter,
/lock and /status to ownership root.lp. (Under Slackware these ownerships
were root.daemon).

Thanks again for all the help.
Warning, I hope everyone realizes now that I will return with many more
problems now that these two are fixed. But not now, got to go to work.

Chris Beamis



Debian-Talk List Downtime

1996-08-08 Thread Mark Constable
Hi folks, this list is not very active so no one would have
noticed that the debian-talk incarnation of majordomo was not
working for the last few weeks. Hehe, we installed debian on
the list servers host... and, in short, messed up with the
lists we are carrying in the changeover. All I have is an
earlier list with about half the members, so, if you don't
want to be on debian-talk then please unsubcribe again, and
the grandest of apologies for any inconvenience.

 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: nada

 unsubscribe debian-talk

OR, use this web interface;

http://www.vv.com.au/cgi-bin/vv/mailserv/majordomo

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Re: The "*" character (was: Latex )

1996-08-08 Thread Philippe Troin

On Thu, 08 Aug 1996 10:34:27 +1000 Mark Phillips ([EMAIL PROTECTED]
edu.au) wrote:
> >It would be helpful if you could tell us what version of the packages
> >you have installed.  For example, if you would run this commands:
> >
> >  dpkg -l *tex*
> 
> I noticed that this doesn't work under tcsh, but does work under
> bash.  Is there a difference between how the * character is treated
> under the two shells?

By default, bash expands shell metacharacters (*?[]) only if they're a match 
({} rules are the exception, they're always expanded). Otherwise, bash passes 
the metacharacters to the invoked program.
Tcsh will complain and abort if it cannot expand some metacharacters. You need 
to quote them.

Solution: always quote shell metacharacters when you want to pass them to a 
program.

Phil.




Re: Two bug reports on installation floppies

1996-08-08 Thread Erik van der Meulen
At 01:33 PM 8/8/96 +0800, Lindsay Allen wrote:

>2)  Something amiss with hostname.  When I boot I get the message:
>none: Host name lookup failure

I came across the same thing. A closer look at /etc/init.d/network learned
that if one selects 'none' for the Gateway, an entry GATEWAY=none is added
to this file.
The:

route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1

command results in the message you encountered. 
This seems like a minor bug in the script to me, but is easily overcome by
changing 'none' in your system ip-number. Or am I committing a sin against
the laws of ip here?

Success,

Erik van der Meulen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Consensus about /bin/perl.

1996-08-08 Thread Rob Browning

So what was the decision about /bin/perl, and the packages that depend
on it right now (kernel-*, etc).  Should it be a symlink, or should
these packages just be fixed?

Just wanted to know so know whether or not I should create the link or
patch the scripts on my systems.

Thanks
--
Rob



How do I get GATEWAY2000 PS/2 mouse to work ? (fwd)

1996-08-08 Thread Mark Edward Johnston

I have installed Linux (Debian 1.1) on a friend's computer, 
but can't get X to work as it complains about not being able to 
find the mouse.

The system is a Gateway 2000 DX2/66  with Cirrus Logic 5434
and what seems to be a "PS/2" mouse.

I have linked /dev/mouse -> /dev/psmouse (-> /dev/psaux)
and set Protocol and Device in XF86Config to "PS/2" and
"/dev/mouse" respectively.

Any help would be appreciated, 

Mark Johnston ([EMAIL PROTECTED])


PS: Does anybody know if PS/2 mouse support is in the default kernel in 
Debian 1.1.3 ?? Is this a valid question ?






Re: printing and .profile problems

1996-08-08 Thread chris beamis
At 05:49 PM 8/7/96 -0400, Susan G. Kleinmann wrote:
>
>Hi Chris --
>
>You said:
>> I tried to post to the linux.debian.user newsgroup without success.
>There isn't any newsgroup -- just this mailing list.
>

There is a group called linux.debian.user that I can access with my
News Xpress program operating under Win3.1. I just checked to be sure
and all the messages in this thread were there. Is it just a mirror
of this mail group and not a real newsgroup?



>I'm not sure what you mean that dselect didn't set up the printer 
>"correctly", in this sense:  the various files and directories for 
>lpr and lpd can be configured in any one of several ways,
>using a variety of approaches.  The HOWTO's refer to Linux in general, and
>not to the Debian distribution in particular.  Debian uses these 
>permissions for directories in /usr/spool/lpd:
>
>drwxrwsr-x   2 root lp   1024 Jul 27 14:20 lp1/
>drwxrwsr-x   2 root lp   1024 Aug  7 16:15 lp2/
>
>where lp1 and lp2 correspond to 2 different stanzas in /etc/printcap.
>
>User 'lp' is defined this way in /etc/passwd:
>lp:*:7:7:lp:/var/spool/lpd:/bin/sh
>
>and group 'lp is defined this way in /etc/group:
>lp:*:7:lp
>
>If you've changed many of those things, you might want to try the
>settings above and see if they work.
>
>Good luck,
>Susan Kleinmann
>

What I meant when I said that lpr didn't work was simply that when
I tried using it nothing came out of the printer. I didn't try to
diagnose it, I just set up the way I always have in the past.
I'm preparing to try these hints plus all the others I've received
and will report back.

Thanks

Chris Beamis
>



Re: Supported fast graphics cards?

1996-08-08 Thread Richard . Dansereau
> 
> I've been asked which graphics card to get for a purchase of 5
> systems to run Linux.  There are a lot of new cards out there
> and new versions of cards I was familiar with but enough has
> changed that I'm not sure exactly what to specify.
> 
> I and some friends have Mach64 cards at home that we bought about
> a year ago and are very hapily running Debian Linux on but what
> would I specify to get a XFree86 X-Server compatible graphics
> card now?
> 
> If you have a recomendation for a _specific_ model of graphics
> card that you know works (1280x1024x256), please let me know.
> It will speed my search.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -- 
> 
> David M. Cooke   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

I have one of the newer Mach64 cards.  From what I've heard basically
all of the Mach64 cards are supported by the latest versions of
XFree86.  I must point out though that the Mach64 cards that are
about 1 year old work just great with the current release of
XFree86 but that the ones that are about 6 months old or so are
only supported by the newest current beta release of the server.
So, if you are planning to get Mach64 cards.. you shouldn't have
a problem getting them to work but you will have to use the newest
beta release of XFree86 which I don't believe is currently available
in the Debian release.

Cheers!
Richard..

-
Richard Dansereau
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Home page:  http://pobox.com/~rdanse
Electrical and Computer Engineering - University of Manitoba - Canada
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Re: The "*" character (was: Latex )

1996-08-08 Thread Guy Maor
On Thu, 8 Aug 1996, Mark Phillips wrote:

> >  dpkg -l *tex*
> 
> I noticed that this doesn't work under tcsh, but does work under
> bash.  Is there a difference between how the * character is treated
> under the two shells?

Yes, there is a difference when the globbing doesn't expand to
anything.  In this case bash passes the word with the wildcards while
tcsh just errors.  For example:

$ ls
$ echo *tex*
*tex*
$ ./nosuchfile *tex*
bash: ./nosuchfile: No such file or directory.
$ tcsh
> echo *tex*
echo: No match.
> ./nosuchfile *tex*
./nosuchfile: No match.

tcsh is pretty broken to issue make it seem as if commands that don't
exist are issuing errors.


Guy



Re: Adding nfs and ip modules to base

1996-08-08 Thread Mr A Birdi

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> During installation I was prompted to select some modules to
> install.
> 
> I wanted nfs but it replied
> 
>   nfs_mknod undefined
>   nfs_sillyrename_create undefined
>   nfs_create undefined undefined
>   nfs_mkdir undefined undefined
>   nfs_lookup_cache undefined undefined
>   nfs_rename undefined undefined
>   nfs_lookup undefined undefined
>   nfs_nfs_rmdir undefined undefined
>   nfs_link undefined
>   nfs_refresh_inode undefined
>   nfs_symlink undefined
>   nfs_unlink undefined
>   Loading failed ! The module symbols 
>   (from linux-2.0.6) don't match your linux-2.0.6
>   Installation failed
> 
> For the internet protocol drivers it said:
>   Can't locate module console
> 
> And for my ne2000 card:
>   ne.c : Module autoprobing not allowed
>   append "io=0xNNN" values
> 
>   (Howabout pointer to Ethernet Howto in Installation doc
>   where values to try above can be found)
> 
> I also tried (with identical results):
>   modprobe -t fs nfs.o
> 
> 
> Fortunatly, can still use computer since didn't overwrite
> previous system.  However, can't install Debian since cannot
> mount the nfs drive where distribution will be kept.
> 


I get exactly the same set of problems and also have a half-formed 1.1
system. Any help is certainly appreciated.

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Re: Two Questions

1996-08-08 Thread Tim O'Brien
>Tim O'Brien wrote:
>
>> Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think there is a problem with the
>> Diamond card. If memory serves me well, Diamond does not publicize code
>> to drive their cards without signing a non-disclosure agreement. Since
>> Linux includes all source code under GNU, this would break the NDA and
>> cause all sortsa trouble.
>
>Well You wrong ..  :)... It was just that you had to invoke a -bpp 16
>switch when you started X... BUT I think your answer still applys
>for the Matrox cards... Diamond was like that before (2 years ago or so)

Ok, I stand corrected. As a matter of fact, I think it was probably about 
2 years or so ago that I heard this. 

Tim

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Nearly perfect!

1996-08-08 Thread Erik van der Meulen
It seems that I have nearly conquered my uucp and sendmail installation.
Thanks to the contribution of this list, no doubt.
Receiving mail works like a charm. Outbound mail gets queued as one might
expect. Uucico does its jobs. Log files show my mail has left my machine. It
just does not arrive at its destination! As I said, nearly perfect.
The only difference I notice between my new setup and my old
Slackware/HDB/sendmail configuration is that uustat -a gives:

Executing rmail ncm.nl!eme  with the new box

Executing rmail [EMAIL PROTECTED]  with the old configuration

As far as I know both should be valid. I really have no clue as to what goes
on, I do not even get some sort of bounce (after eight hours that is).
I was hoping anyone out here might have an idea as to what might still be
wrong. My sendmail.mc file is listed below, just in case.

Thanks all for any comment!

Erik van der Meulen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

--
#
# This file is used to configure sendmail for use with Debian systems.
#

divert(0)
VERSIONID(`@(#)sendmail.mc  8.7 (Linux) 3/5/96')
OSTYPE(debian)dnl
FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)dnl
FEATURE(use_cw_file)dnl
FEATURE(use_ct_file)dnl
FEATURE(redirect)dnl
FEATURE(nodns)dnl
define(`confTO_QUEUEWARN', `1d')dnl
MAILER(local)dnl
MAILER(smtp)dnl
Cwavondel.xs4all.nl
MASQUERADE_AS(avondel.xs4all.nl)dnl

## Custom configurations below (will be preserved)

MAILER(uucp)dnl
define(`SMART_HOST', uucp:xs4all)
--

My setup:

ISP is called:  xs4all.nl
UUCP node:  avondel



Re: what files does dselect/dpkg use to discern choices?

1996-08-08 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, David C Winters wrote:

> 
>   Now, to explain the question, since I can't understand the 
> Subject: line and I wrote it myself...
> 
>   I've got approximately 50 machines I need to build.  My best 
> option for the initial system build, unless I've missed something, would 
> be to run deselect on one machine, then take a deselect-generated file 
> containing my selections and exporting that file to all the other 
> machines, so I can just start up dselect and choose "Install" without 
> having to go through "Select" on each.
>   How can I accomplish this?  Which file(s) do I need to export in 
> order to make this happen?  And, is there a better way to achieve the 
> same results?
> 
I would suggest you look at UpGrade and base_list in the upgrades
directory. The script was written to upgrade the base section, but is
general in nature and will run on any list you make. If you start with the
base system list, you can add the other packages you wish to upgrade. It
is your responsibility to deal with depends (that is, packages that
another package depends on must appear in the list first), but once you
have a list that works, you only need to copy the script and the list to
the other machines you wish to upgrade and run it. Since the script checks
to see whether the package on the list has already been upgraded, you can
continue to use the list, into the indefinate future, to do incremental
upgrades as new versions of packages become available, or you can wait
till the next release and use your old list. Any packages you wish to add
to your installation just goes into the list in the proper place to obtain
all it's dependancy needs.

Check it out and let me know if it will work for you,

Dwarf

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Re: printing and .profile problems

1996-08-08 Thread bigl
On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, chris beamis wrote:

> 
> 2. another problem, which I didn't have under Slackware, is using a .profile
> in the user's home area. I have just one line in it, "alias 'lo'=exit" which
> has always worked before but the lo commanded doesn't get recognized. I also
> tried renaming the file to .login but still no luck. Any ideas?
> 

This line should look like:

alias lo='exit'

but NOT like:

alias 'lo'=exit

Did it work?!?!?!?!?


Leszek Gerwatowski
TG S.A
Warsaw, Poland



Re: catch 22?

1996-08-08 Thread Jim Pick
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>I've managed to get myself in a catch-22 kind of dilemma.  In an effort
>to get a working 2.0.0 kernel with the proper options to support IP
>masquerading, somehow or other both my kernel-image and kernel-source
>packages have gotten to a state where I'm stuck fast!  I cannot
>successfully build a kernel at this point, and I can't remove or reinstall 
>either of the packages.  Attempting to reinstall results in errors 
>during the prerem or postrem scripts for both the source and image
>package.  Attempting to remove, errors with a recommendation to reinstall
>(which fails of course!--hence the dilemma) before attempting to remove!
>I am stuck in that proverbial hard place.
>

I had the same problem with a virgin Debian 1.1 installation.  I
investigated and found that the kernel-image/kernel-source postinst 
and prerm scripts reference "#! /bin/perl".

However, on my virgin Debian 1.1 installation, there was no
symlink from /bin/perl to /usr/bin/perl!  I manually created the
symlink and that fixed the problem.

I've been meaning to report this as a bug - but I haven't figured out
how to do that yet...

- Jim




Re: Discrepancies between mirror sites

1996-08-08 Thread Tim 'The Unslept' Sailer
In your email to me, Mark Phillips, you wrote:
> 
> >  Mark> Is there any way for mirror to discern timezone differences and
> >  Mark> adjust times accordingly?  If the answer is no, then surely we should
> >  Mark> ask all debian mirrors not to alter time stamps?
> >
> >We could try to persuade _all_ mirrors to use
> > use_timelocal=false
> 
> This suggestions seems very sensible.  Is there an official way to
> persuade?

Easy! (In my case) Done on sun10.sep.bnl.gov and llug2.sep.bnl.gov.
Both are updating the time/date stamps off master.debian.org right
now.

Tim

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Re: The "*" character (was: Latex )

1996-08-08 Thread Heiko Schlittermann
Mark Phillips wrote:
: 
: >you have installed.  For example, if you would run this commands:
: >  dpkg -l *tex*
: I noticed that this doesn't work under tcsh, but does work under
: bash.  Is there a difference between how the * character is treated
: under the two shells?

Under sh-lish shells `*' expands to all files, if any, or to '*'
itsself, if no files/dirs match.

Under csh-lish shells `*' expands to all files, if any, or to _nothing_
(and a note `no match') if nothing matches.

AFAIK ...

Heiko
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Help needed using Sun 'automount' map with Debian's amd.

1996-08-08 Thread Christian Hudon
We have a Sun lab where all the home directories are automounted using
Sun's 'automount' command. Now we're adding 20 Debian boxes to this lab.

The home directories are all 'automounted' under /home/users (so user
'foo' has home dir /home/users/foo). Where to get each home dir is
described by the NIS map 'auto.home'. Entries in the map look like this:

foo orion.ee.mcgill.ca:/.home.9/&

where user 'foo' is the NIS key for the map and
'orion.ee.mcgill.ca:/.home.9' is where foo's home dir is located.

How do I get amd to work with that setup?

Please help... We need to get this working... and we need it bad.

  Christian



Re: Floppy won't boot with internal cache enabled

1996-08-08 Thread Bruce Perens
On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, Steve Gaarder wrote: 
> I am installing Debian 1.1.1 on a generic clone with an AMD 486 on an
> Opti-based motherboard.  If I have the internal cache enabled in setup,
> I get the error "invalid compressed format" after the "uncompressing
> Linux" message.  If I disable the cache, it boots fine.  It boots ok
> from the hard drive either way.  Anyone know what is going on?

This message indicates that incorrect data was read from the floppy.
Since disabling the cache fixes it, you have verified that the floppy
itself contains valid data and the problem comes after that.

Guy Maor: 
> Try to enable it but make the timings more conservative.
> You're probably seeing hardware problems; your L2 cache is being
> addressed too quickly.

Good idea. Try it. I have another suggestion if that does not work. If
I am not mistaken, loading the root disk is the first place where the
Linux floppy driver is used. The boot disk is read using BIOS. Try to
exercise the floppy from Linux with your cache enabled by writing a
large file to it, popping out and re-inserting the floppy, and reading
back the file. Use "md5sum" to see if the data matches. Don't forget
to pop out and replace the floppy - the data could be read from a disk
block cache rather than the floppy if you don't do that. This block cache
has nothing to do with the cache you are enabling and disabling. If
there's a problem, I would suspect the Linux floppy driver (which
sometimes needs to be tuned for various systems), but it could be
something that is solved by changing a DMA speed setting in your BIOS
set-up menu as well.

Thanks

Bruce



Re: catch 22?

1996-08-08 Thread Guy Maor
On Wed, 7 Aug 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Thanks for the try Guy, but no help there.  Been there, done that.  The
> remove (or forced install) doesn't work either, for the same reason.
> The prerem and/or the postrem script fails.  Actually, I thought the force
> option would be the answer, but I haven't been successful with it yet.

You'll have to examine the prerm or postrm in question to see why it
fails.  You'll then have to correct the problem so you can remove the
package.  Be sure and file a bug report explaining the problem.


Guy



System.map

1996-08-08 Thread danny
I've compiled custom kernels that weren't part of any debian
distribution yet (2.0.7 patched with aic7xxx fixes).  In
/var/adm/messages there's a complaint that the booting kernel couldn't
read the map.  Checking old /var/adm/messages, it appears that what's
wanted is the file System.map which appears to be in the directory
where I built the kernel.

How should I set things up so this file is found?  Also, how serious
is it when it's not found?

A third question.  I noticed a file called "debian-rules" in  the
source directory for one of the distribution kernels.  Should I use
this to make a debian-style installation of my custom kernel, or only
if I want to make a particular custom kernel into a debian package?
If I should use it, what extra files (besides kernel-2.x.x.tar.gz) do
I need?

Thanks


Danny Heap, UCSF,  California St., Room 102, SF CA, 94122
[EMAIL PROTECTED], voice:   (415) 476-8910, fax: (415) 476-1508




Re: Floppy won't boot with internal cache enabled

1996-08-08 Thread Michael J. Cotherman
Steve Gaarder wrote:
> 
> I am installing Debian 1.1.1 on a generic clone with an AMD 486 on an
> Opti-based motherboard.  If I have the internal cache enabled in setup,
> I get the error "invalid compressed format" after the "uncompressing
> Linux" message.  If I disable the cache, it boots fine.  It boots ok
> from the hard drive either way.  Anyone know what is going on?
> 
> thanks,

I had this problem when I used EDO RAM on a motherboard that did not
support EDO...just a thought

mike cotherman



Re: printing and .profile problems

1996-08-08 Thread Susan G. Kleinmann

Hi Chris --

You said:
> I tried to post to the linux.debian.user newsgroup without success.
There isn't any newsgroup -- just this mailing list.


> Anyway, I just installed Debian 1.1.2 in late July (my first Debian
> installation), with a few problems. ...
> 
> 1. dselect didn't configure lpr correctly so I did it myself using the
> printing HOWTO which I've done successfully many times before with Slackware
> releases. Now root can print but users get the message, "usr can't create
> /usr/spool/lpd/hp4p/.seq". This is with the permissions on that file set to
> rw_rw_r as the HOWTO says. I tried changing the permissions to rw_rw_rw but
> then a user gets the message "usr can't create
> /usr/spool/lpd/hp4p/tfA006Aa01777". As far as I know I have the permissions
> set correctly in all the directories leading to this file, but this seems
> like a permission problem. I'm stuck!

I'm not sure what you mean that dselect didn't set up the printer 
"correctly", in this sense:  the various files and directories for 
lpr and lpd can be configured in any one of several ways,
using a variety of approaches.  The HOWTO's refer to Linux in general, and
not to the Debian distribution in particular.  Debian uses these 
permissions for directories in /usr/spool/lpd:

drwxrwsr-x   2 root lp   1024 Jul 27 14:20 lp1/
drwxrwsr-x   2 root lp   1024 Aug  7 16:15 lp2/

where lp1 and lp2 correspond to 2 different stanzas in /etc/printcap.

User 'lp' is defined this way in /etc/passwd:
lp:*:7:7:lp:/var/spool/lpd:/bin/sh

and group 'lp is defined this way in /etc/group:
lp:*:7:lp

If you've changed many of those things, you might want to try the
settings above and see if they work.

Good luck,
Susan Kleinmann



Re: The "*" character (was: Latex )

1996-08-08 Thread Gerry Toll
Mark,

When using wildcards in bash, the shell attempts to expand them, but 
if it finds nothing that matches the specified pattern, it passes the 
wildcard string to the command. Quoting the wildcard pattern causes 
the shell to pass it as a single argument to the command. 

In your case, since there was no file in the directory you were 
executing from that matched the pattern *tex*, bash behaved as if you 
had quoted the pattern.

Since I don't use tcsh, I couldn't say for certain, but my 
understanding is that it treats wildcards in a slightly different 
manner - always attempting the expansion and returning an error 
message if the no matches are found. To pass an argument containing 
wildcards, the pattern must be quoted. This would explain why:

bash$ dpkg -l *tex*   

worked, and:

tcsh% dpkg -l *tex* 

did not.

In any case, as a matter of good style, you should always quote 
wildcards when you don't want them expanded - even if you know you 
can get away without it. 

Hope this clarifies things...

Gerry



Re: printing and .profile problems

1996-08-08 Thread Michael Karafotis
Just a note .. if you have a ~/.bash_profile file than bash will ignore your
.profile file.

Don't forget everyone here is making an assumption you are using the bash
shell .. if you are using a csh derivative than the .profile will be
ignored and those same commands will not work.

The csh version of an alias is 
alias lo 'logout'

Good luck,
Michael

> 
> At 03:13 PM 8/7/96 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, chris beamis wrote:
> >
> >> 
> >> 2. another problem, which I didn't have under Slackware, is using a 
> >> .profile
> >> in the user's home area. I have just one line in it, "alias 'lo'=exit" 
> >> which
> >> has always worked before but the lo commanded doesn't get recognized. I 
> >> also
> >> tried renaming the file to .login but still no luck. Any ideas?
> >> 
> >
> >This line should look like:
> >
> >alias lo='exit'
> >
> >but NOT like:
> >
> >alias 'lo'=exit
> >
> >Did it work?!?!?!?!?
> >
> >
> >Leszek Gerwatowski
> >TG S.A
> >Warsaw, Poland
> >
> >
> 
> Leszek,
>   Sorry, I should have mentioned that it is the same .profile which I've
> always used successfully with Slackware releases. I was going from memory
> which is the only reason I got the quotes wrong. There is something else
> going on causing bash or something to ignore my .profile.
> 
> Thanks anyway.
> 
> Chris Beamis
> 
> 



Re: getting the mouse to work

1996-08-08 Thread Richard G. Roberto
On Wed, 7 Aug 1996, Mark Phillips wrote:

> >When installing gpm, I set my mouse device to /dev/ttys0... Then, I =
> >pointed everything else that wanted a mouse device to /dev/mouse.  =
> 
> What is the difference between
> 
> /dev/ttys1, /dev/cua1 and /dev/mouse (a soft link)
> 
> and when should each be used?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark Phillips.  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> 
> 

Mark,

This is an old explanation that I'm not sure still holds
true, but ...

A cu device is for DCE devices (Data Communications
Equiptment), basically modems, etc.  A tty device is for DTE
devices (Data Terminal Equiptment), basically terminals,
serial input devices (mice), etc.  The /dev/mouse should be
a link to /dev/ttyxx where xx is probably S0 or S1, etc.
You don't need to have /dev/mouse to have the mouse work,
its just there to conveniently identify the mouse port.

I hope that's helpful, and if anybody knows a better, more
modern explanation, please do :-)

Good luck!

Richard G. Roberto
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
201-739-2886 - whippany, nj


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Re: The "*" character (was: Latex )

1996-08-08 Thread Mark Phillips
>Hi Mark --
>You asked:
>> because I'd said:
>> >It would be helpful if you could tell us what version of the packages
>> >you have installed.  For example, if you would run this commands:
>> >
>> >  dpkg -l *tex*
>> 
>> I noticed that this doesn't work under tcsh, but does work under
>> bash.  Is there a difference between how the * character is treated
>> under the two shells?
>
>
>What I'd written was actually not right for either shell.
>
>I should have written:
>
> dpkg -l "*tex*"
>
>The problem is that without the quotes, the shell expands the argument
>first, before handing it to dpkg.  If there's a file in your current
>directory with a name that matches *tex*, then that file, and only that
>file, is fed to dpkg.  This is not what's intended of course.
>
>So I tried the correct usage (with the quotes) under tcsh and it worked
>fine.

But the interesting thing is that dpkg -l *tex* actually _works_ when
run under bash, leading me to think that the bash shell doesn't expand
the argument first.

Mark.



Re: catch 22?

1996-08-08 Thread Guy Maor
On Tue, 6 Aug 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Is there some way to force dpkg to reinstall (or remove) in spite of the
> error it encounters attempting to remove the older package first?

Type `dpkg --force-help' for instructions on forcing options.  I think
you want --force-remove-reinstreq.  Be forewarned that you can
seriously damage your installation with some of these options.


Guy



Re: Cannot compile mouse support - help!

1996-08-08 Thread Lazaro . Salem
Hi jj,
You are lucky! we must be the only Debian Linux users with the same mouse 
and graphic card on this planet :-). From reading your mail it seems you have 
gone all the way through it... Oooops!!! Wait a minute. Try: 

   #  gpm -t 'bm' -m  /dev/inportbm

Remember from the busmouse HOWTO: one thing is the protocol (busmouse) 
and the other the hardware interface or device driver (/dev/inportbm)

For me it worked "out of the box". Well, you already know... after recompiling 
as you did. I have choosen busmouse compiled in, but it should work as a a 
module too.  I prefer to see that the "...mouse is detected"  when running 
dmesg. The only difference between your setup and mine is the interrupt 
which I have on IRQ=5 (I thought it was the default for this mouse!). 
But maybe you don't want that because of conflicts... Anyway, this is just 
to give you some hope: busmouse (inportbm) on IRQ5 + ATI Ultra works fine 
for somebody else.

Just a comment I find useful to minimize the changes when switching mice 
(serial <-> busmouse). I don't use the real device names 
(ttySn or inportbm) but a link to them via: 
# (cd /dev ; ln -sf inportbm mouse) 
or 
# (cd /dev ; ln -sf ttyS0 mouse) 

and start both gmp (look at /etc/init.d/gpm ) and X (look at etc/X11/XF86Config)
by pointing to /dev/mouse. Then only change you need to do when switching mice 
is the protocol: [bm|ms] for gpm and [Busmouse|Microsoft(<-check please)] for X.
e.g. for gpm 
 gpm -t bm   # -m is /dev/mouse is default. 
or
 gpm # ms is the default and mouse is the default too!
 
Check the sintax on the man page.

Hope it helps!

Lazaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

P.S. Warning to other newcomers and busmice owners: The standard 2.0.6 
kernel in the boot.bin 1996-07-14 disks does not include the module for 
busmice). Under special-kernels/.. many of the 2.0.5 images do support the 
busmice drivers as modules. The Config with whiche they were created is 
there too. For me was easier to recompile :-)

>_ Reply Separator _
>Subject: Cannot compile mouse support - help!
>Author:  debian-user@lists.debian.org at cclink
>Date:08.08.96 15:43
>
>
>Hi all,
>
>  I'm trying to compile mouse support into my kernel (2.0.6), but for the
>life of me I can't get the mouse to function.  I have a busmouse on an
>ATI Graphics Ultra + card (which the HOWTO says is a regular busmouse,
>NOT an ATI busmouse).  When I run MSD under dos, it reports a busmouse
>using IRQ4.  So far, so good.
>
>  When I try to use the mouse (gpm -m /dev/inportbm) I just get the
>message "/dev/inportbm - No such device".  So I tried removing the
>inportbm and recreating it (mknod /dev/inportbm c 10 2); running the
>"file" command on the new inportbm indicates that it is a character
>special (10, 2).  Still no luck - no such device.
>
>
>  I've tried compiling with busmouse support and NO serial support,
>compiling with serial support and NO busmouse support, and compiling
>with both busmouse AND serial support.  In all cases I get "no such device"
>when using /dev/inportbm.  On the two kernels with serial support, the
>gpm -m /dev/ttys0 command does not fail with an error, but it does not
>provide any visible mouse support either.  And I have checked that
>busmouse.h #defines MOUSE_IRQ = 4.  I set both serial and busmouse support
>to be in the kernel, not in modules.
>
>  I've read the busmouse-HOWTO and the FAQ and have not been able to
>solve this problem.  Does anybody have any ideas what I'm doing wrong here?
>The mouse works fine under DOS/Windows, so it shouldn't be a hardware problem.
>
>  Thanks all.
>
>-jj





Unable to mount IDE ATAPI CDROM

1996-08-08 Thread Shankar Chakkere

Hi,
I installed Debian GNU/Linux base system using floppies ( 0.93R6 kernel 
1.2.13)
My problem is, I have a IDE ATAPI  Mitsumi 4X CD ROM connected to first IDE 
as
secondary device which is recognized at boot time

hdb: FX001DE, ATAPI, CDROM

I also notice that it loads 'isofs' filesystem .

When I try to mount it by

'mount -t  iso9660 /dev/hdb /cdrom'

the system hangs ! so is with the following commands

1. mount -t iso9660 -r /dev/hdb /cdrom
2. mount -o ro /dev/hdb /cdrom
3. mount /dev/hdb /cdrom
4. mount -t  iso9660 /dev/hdb /cdrom -o,ro,block=2048

The only way out is to hard reset (switch off/on) the system.

I had Slackware running (Kernel 1.2.13) which recognizes my CD ROM.

My system configuration
 ---
Pentium -75MHz
RAM -8Mb
First IDE: 1.2 Gb Hard disk , IDE ATAPI mitsumi CD ROM.
Second IDE: 1.6 Gb Hard disk , blank.
PS/2 - Bus Mouse.
SVGA - Cirrus chip set.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Sincerely,
Shankar




Supported fast graphics cards?

1996-08-08 Thread David M. Cooke
I've been asked which graphics card to get for a purchase of 5
systems to run Linux.  There are a lot of new cards out there
and new versions of cards I was familiar with but enough has
changed that I'm not sure exactly what to specify.

I and some friends have Mach64 cards at home that we bought about
a year ago and are very hapily running Debian Linux on but what
would I specify to get a XFree86 X-Server compatible graphics
card now?

If you have a recomendation for a _specific_ model of graphics
card that you know works (1280x1024x256), please let me know.
It will speed my search.

Thanks.

-- 

David M. Cooke   [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: catch 22?

1996-08-08 Thread wb2oyc

On 14:19:59 Guy Maor wrote:
>>On Tue, 6 Aug 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Is there some way to force dpkg to reinstall (or remove) in spite of the
>> error it encounters attempting to remove the older package first?
>
>Type `dpkg --force-help' for instructions on forcing options.  I think
>you want --force-remove-reinstreq.  Be forewarned that you can
>seriously damage your installation with some of these options.
>
>Guy
Thanks for the try Guy, but no help there.  Been there, done that.  The
remove (or forced install) doesn't work either, for the same reason.
The prerem and/or the postrem script fails.  Actually, I thought the force
option would be the answer, but I haven't been successful with it yet.

Paul



HELP ON DNS

1996-08-08 Thread osman
Hello,

Firstly let me introduce myself as a B. Tech Computer Science and
Engineering student at University of Mauritius. For my final year, I have
to do a project namely:

'Design and Implementation of a Dynamic Domain Name Server for host
configuration on a LAN.' If, for e. g., a new server joins the LAN, the
Domain Name Server automatically updates a lookup table automatically. TCP/IP 
protocol is 
being used to implement.

We are planning to proceed as follows:
As soon as a new server joins the network, it broadcast its ethernet address. 
When the name 
server gets the message then sends a packet using the ethernet address to the 
server and 
gives it a name and an IP address. Then the name server pings the new server to 
see if 
everything is OK.

I shall be much grateful how can I find the said new server using ethernet 
address? 

Please send me some more information on the netbeui protocol.

Thank you for your attention

Osman

-
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 08/07/96
Time: 19:16:31
-




Re: XServer for ET4000/W32p hangs!!

1996-08-08 Thread Syrus Nemat-Nasser
On Wed, 7 Aug 1996, Mark Phillips wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have a friend who I am trying to help install debian 1.1.  He has an
> ET4000/W32p graphics card.  I installed the appropriate server, went
> through the xbase-configure program to create an XF86Config file, and
> then ran "X -probeonly 2> out.txt" to try and get a clock line.  The
> system just hung and I had to do a Ctr-Alt-Del to get out.
> 
> I couldn't work out what the problem was.  Any ideas?  I include the
> out.txt file below.

There are many problems with the ET4000/W32 cards.  You can try a beta
version from XFREE or try my solution--replace the card with one that
works under the present XFREE86 distribution.

Syrus.



--
Syrus Nemat-Nasser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>UCSD Physics Dept.



Re: Floppy won't boot with internal cache enabled

1996-08-08 Thread Guy Maor
On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, Steve Gaarder wrote:

> I am installing Debian 1.1.1 on a generic clone with an AMD 486 on an
> Opti-based motherboard.  If I have the internal cache enabled in setup,
> I get the error "invalid compressed format" after the "uncompressing
> Linux" message.  If I disable the cache, it boots fine.  It boots ok
> from the hard drive either way.  Anyone know what is going on?

I don't see how this could happen with an L1 cache (internal), but it
could with an L2 (external).  Were you perhaps enabling and disabling
the external?  Try to enable it but make the timings more
conservative.  You're probably seeing hardware problems; your L2 cache
is being addressed too quickly.


Guy



Re: unreliable service of I-Connect

1996-08-08 Thread Hubert FAUQUE
On Tue, 06 Aug 1996 09:24:01 GMT, you wrote:

>I am to in this situation: waiting for the CD for 4 weeks. I can't
>have any response from Simon Shapiro (I-Connect) on my order since 2
>weeks so I am considering to ftp the files and master a CD for my use.
>
>bye, Daniel
>
>
>--
>Daniel ANDRE, [EMAIL PROTECTED]IRIS Technologies
>   155 rue Jules Delcenserie, Bat B3
>   59700 MARCQ en BAROEUL, FRANCE
>
>

I have ordered two Debian CDs in July (one about the 1st of July, one
about the 15th) and I have received them two weeks later in each case,
so I am glad to say I am very pleased with i-connect.

Hubert Fauque
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: catch 22?

1996-08-08 Thread Graham Williams
Jim Pick wrote on 08 Aug 1996 04:44:21 +1000:

wb2oyc> <...> In an effort to get a working 2.0.0 kernel with the
wb2oyc> proper options <...> results in errors during the prerem
wb2oyc> or postrem scripts for both the source and image package.

Jim> I had the same problem with a virgin Debian 1.1 installation.
Jim> I investigated and found that the kernel-image/kernel-source
Jim> postinst and prerm scripts reference "#! /bin/perl".
Jim> However, on my virgin Debian 1.1 installation, there was no
Jim> symlink from /bin/perl to /usr/bin/perl!  I manually created
Jim> the symlink and that fixed the problem.

This is Bug#3951 I think.  I had the same problem.

Cheers,
Graham



Re: dselect/dpkg problem: install/remove

1996-08-08 Thread Bruce Perens
> I tried to use dselect to
> purge the kernel-source package and again dpkg crashed, this time
> leaving me with a hung system.  All I could do was power cycle my
> machine since the keyboard was apparently frozen and I could not
> log in on any other consoles.  This left me with a bad disk which
> I cannot fix because now e2fsck crashes with a segmentation
> fault.

It's not likely that dpkg/dselect put the system in this state on its own.
Things that wedge the system and then make e2fsck not run generally have
to do with the shared library files containing corrupt data. This could
be a problem with the data on the disk, or bad RAM. Probably a re-install
would be a good idea at this point, since the data on the disk is suspect.

We have taken some hits because we were using a brand-new Linux 2.0 kernel,
but this does not sound like one of those.

People get upset when I point at hardware, because of course Windows 95
runs fine on the system and the power-on test passes. However, many people
on this list have found that Linux exercises features of your system that
DOS and Windows don't ever touch. We get a lot of "I really didn't believe
it was hardware but then I fixed the hardware and it got better" email.

I run Debian on 5 different computers without stability problems.

Thanks

Bruce



Re: The "*" character (was: Latex )

1996-08-08 Thread Susan G. Kleinmann
Hi Mark --
You asked:
> because I'd said:
> >It would be helpful if you could tell us what version of the packages
> >you have installed.  For example, if you would run this commands:
> >
> >  dpkg -l *tex*
> 
> I noticed that this doesn't work under tcsh, but does work under
> bash.  Is there a difference between how the * character is treated
> under the two shells?


What I'd written was actually not right for either shell.

I should have written:

 dpkg -l "*tex*"

The problem is that without the quotes, the shell expands the argument
first, before handing it to dpkg.  If there's a file in your current
directory with a name that matches *tex*, then that file, and only that
file, is fed to dpkg.  This is not what's intended of course.

So I tried the correct usage (with the quotes) under tcsh and it worked
fine.

Cheers,
Susan 



VFS: inode busy on removed device 03:01

1996-08-08 Thread Al Youngwerth
I just set up a Linux system on a Syquest EZ135 removable IDE drive. Everything 
seems to work but I get this message (the one on the subject line) about 36 
times during boot when the disk is being mounted. It also throws in the message:

VFS: Root device 03:01: prepare for Armageddon

Fortunately, Armageddon hasn't arrived, at least I don't think it has. 
Everything seems to work ok after the boot is complete. I also got this same 
message while LILO'ing the disk; LILO said it didn't install but my system 
boots just fine from the EZ135 anyway.

It really doesn't appear to be causing any problems, I was just wondering if 
anyone out there knew what it meant.

Thanks,

Al Youngwerth
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

P.S. These Syquest drives are great. $119 list price for the IDE version with 
one disk. Very fast (uses the same technology as a hard drive).



Re: printing and .profile problems

1996-08-08 Thread chris beamis
At 03:13 PM 8/7/96 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, chris beamis wrote:
>
>> 
>> 2. another problem, which I didn't have under Slackware, is using a .profile
>> in the user's home area. I have just one line in it, "alias 'lo'=exit" which
>> has always worked before but the lo commanded doesn't get recognized. I also
>> tried renaming the file to .login but still no luck. Any ideas?
>> 
>
>This line should look like:
>
>alias lo='exit'
>
>but NOT like:
>
>alias 'lo'=exit
>
>Did it work?!?!?!?!?
>
>
>Leszek Gerwatowski
>TG S.A
>Warsaw, Poland
>
>

Leszek,
  Sorry, I should have mentioned that it is the same .profile which I've
always used successfully with Slackware releases. I was going from memory
which is the only reason I got the quotes wrong. There is something else
going on causing bash or something to ignore my .profile.

Thanks anyway.

Chris Beamis



Re: a memory + SCSI error??

1996-08-08 Thread Susan G. Kleinmann
I hesitate to burden the list with an email that's more reminiscent
of "Days of our Lives" than a bug report, but having suggested a couple of
days ago that there might be problems with Linux's handling of memory or 
SCSI interfaces, I thought it might be constructive to report that the
problems I encountered had nothing to do with Linux, Debian, or any of the
utilities I was using, and everything to do with cleaning.  I also thought
it might be useful to summarize 'lessons learned'.

In order to clean the inside of the box that had the 9 GB drive on it,
the outer casing of the box had to be slid off.  The box hadn't been
constructed all that perfectly, so when the lid was finally removed, 
the drive heads got a real physical jolt.  Basically, I was over-optimistic
about the ruggedness of the Micropolis drive (which is now 2 years old).  
I suspect that the heads were misaligned when the box casing was removed, 
and that caused the errors when I rebooted.

(The answer to questions about what I used for cleaning is: a nearly dry 
damp cloth.  I gave the box lots of opportunity to dry after I cleaned it,
so I don't think the two drops of water in the cloth was a problem.  
In fact I suspect that cleaning without a little water is sometimes more 
of a problem, due to static.)

Lessons learned:
-- Running fsck once on a broken partition isn't enough.  It must be run
more than once, especially if fsck ever asks:  ... Ignore?

-- Use 'reboot -n' after running fsck (suggestion from Sherwood Botsford).   

-- (of course) back up early and often.  Reading and then applying
the documentation on the 'tob' backup script is not only a lot less painful 
than going through the trauma that I went through for the last two days; 
it is actually pleasurable reading, a real rarity!  


Thanks to all for sympathy and suggestions while I was in the pits.
Susan Kleinmann



Re: catch 22?

1996-08-08 Thread Christian Hudon
On 7 Aug 1996, Jim Pick wrote:

> I had the same problem with a virgin Debian 1.1 installation.  I
> investigated and found that the kernel-image/kernel-source postinst 
> and prerm scripts reference "#! /bin/perl".
> 
> However, on my virgin Debian 1.1 installation, there was no
> symlink from /bin/perl to /usr/bin/perl!  I manually created the
> symlink and that fixed the problem.
> 
> I've been meaning to report this as a bug - but I haven't figured out
> how to do that yet...

You don't need to report it, it's a known bug. It's been fixed in Debian 
1.1.something.

  Christian






Re: lost lib

1996-08-08 Thread Guy Maor
On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, Robert Van Horn wrote:

> When I try to use ftp I get a message "ftp: can't find library 'librl.so.2'"
> I also am not able to find this library any of the places I looked.

I believe librl is the old a.out readline library.  Are you running
Debian 0.93r6?  I highly encourage you to upgrade.


Guy



Re: XServer for ET4000/W32p hangs!!

1996-08-08 Thread Stuart Lamble
Syrus Nemat-Nasser wrote:
: On Wed, 7 Aug 1996, Mark Phillips wrote:
: 
: > Hi,
: > 
: > I have a friend who I am trying to help install debian 1.1.  He has an
: > ET4000/W32p graphics card.  I installed the appropriate server, went
[snipped]
: 
: There are many problems with the ET4000/W32 cards.  You can try a beta
: version from XFREE or try my solution--replace the card with one that
: works under the present XFREE86 distribution.

To clarify the situation: 3.1.2 had a few problems that caused them to
not work with ET4000/W32 revisions A or B. (I have a revision A at home,
FWIW.) These bugs have been fixed, and 3.1.2E works fine on my home
system.

I would suggest that you install 3.1.2, but not configure it, from the
debian packages; move it to another directory (or tar it up), and replace
it with the 3.1.2E distribution from ftp.xfree86.org or its mirrors. This
should rectify the situation.

-- 
Windows is not the answer. Windows is the question. Linux is the answer.
http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/ for all your PC software requirements.



Re: printing and .profile problems

1996-08-08 Thread David C Winters

> On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, chris beamis wrote:
>> 1. dselect didn't configure lpr correctly so I did it myself using the
>> printing HOWTO which I've done successfully many times before with Slackware
>> releases. Now root can print but users get the message, "usr can't create
>> /usr/spool/lpd/hp4p/.seq". This is with the permissions on that file 
>> set to >> rw_rw_r as the HOWTO says. I tried changing the permissions to 
>> rw_rw_rw but then a user gets the message "usr can't create
>> /usr/spool/lpd/hp4p/tfA006Aa01777". As far as I know I have the 
>> permissions set correctly in all the directories leading to this file, 
>> but this seems like a permission problem. I'm stuck!

On the couple of Linux boxes I've set up recently, the 
directories under /usr/spool/lpd are chown'd either root or lp, and 
they're all chgrp'd lp.  I have the permissions set to 775 (ie, rwxrwxr-x)
and I haven't run into any problems so far.  (The benefit of my following 
up with this is I'm sure someone will let me know if these perms will 
cause problems I haven't forseen or encountered...)

> > 2. another problem, which I didn't have under Slackware, is using a .profile
> > in the user's home area. I have just one line in it, "alias 'lo'=exit" which
> > has always worked before but the lo commanded doesn't get recognized. I also
> > tried renaming the file to .login but still no luck. Any ideas?
 
On Wed, 7 Aug 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> This line should look like:
> alias lo='exit'

First, the original message doesn't state what shell is being 
used.  The construction of the sample alias command indicates it's of the 
Bourne family, but doesn't pin it down further than that.  My answer 
assumes that the GNU Bourne-Again shell (bash, typically /bin/bash) is 
the subject.
The single quotes are only necessary in cases where the command 
to be aliased contains spaces.  I generally make more use of self-
defined functions than aliases, but the single quotes are only needed in 
an example such as

alias pico='pico -e -k -w -x -z'

(This is using the pico that accompanies pine v3.94; don't know if 
earlier pico versions support all of these arguments.)


David [EMAIL PROTECTED] aka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Office: 3503 WeH, x86720



Re: dns

1996-08-08 Thread Paul Traina
sure, just specify:

primary my.private.domain   file.db

and all dns lookups for my.private.domain will work.  If you're talking about
your "customers'" machines, that's a little tougher... the easiest trick is
to set them up to have cacheing DNS nameservers, and set:

forwarder   
slave   (this is the obsolete keyword, look in the docs for the new
 keyword)


I mention using cacheing DNS servers on your customer boxes.  Since you're
on a radio network, this is a good idea.  If you can't do that, then make
sure your customers always point ONLY to nameservers that can speak
authoritatively for my.private.domain.

Paul



  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mahoney, Hugh M.)
  Subject: dns
  
  
  I would like to set up a dns on linux.  This  name server will serve a 
  private domain encompassing a wireless network.
  
  I will very shortly have dial-in access to a ISP to provide internet 
  visibility to wireless network users.
  
   Is it possible to configure a  private dns to resolve a name query and in 
  the event the query fails  forward the query to the Internet Service 
  Providers domain name server ?   Private names must be  resolved locally by 
  the linux dns and never require resolution over the internet.
  
  The private domain,  at this time is not recognized by the internet 
  community and names specific to the private domain cannot be resolved.  Each 
  private name would  be entered manualy into a  private dns cache.
  
  Any suggestions ?
  



Re: Help needed using Sun 'automount' map with Debian's amd.

1996-08-08 Thread Dominik Kubla

Look at /usr/doc/amd there is a (untested!) script to convert automount to
amd maps.

Dominik Kubla
(Maintainer)



Re: Adding nfs and ip modules to base

1996-08-08 Thread Jim Gerace
I had the same probs as Jay, and performed the same
solution as Lazaro, with equal success.
I used the kernel building package 'make-kpkg' to
build my custom kernel.
Jim

> Hi Jay,
> There have been some postings (since the 1.1.2 release) to this list  
> reporting  the same problem. Check last week's ones as I sent a kind of 
> reports-log. I heard of no answers so I am not sure whther we are 
> exceptions# to the rule.
> 
> My solution was to reinstall 1.1 (stable tree) download & install the 
> packages in the updates. Among them the kernel-source-2.0.6-0.i386.deb 
> (please check the name) but not the kernel-image. 
> I the recompiled the 2.0.6 with the debian script to create a kernel-image 
> package. Look at kernel source tree for a debian. .
> As a result I got the kernel-image-2.0.6-choose.your.tag.here.deb which I 
> installed with dpkg (instructions are in the debian script)
> Now I have a custom (leaner) kernel and no problems so ever with the 
> "undefined" messages. 
> 
> Lazaro
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>__ Reply Separator
_
>Subject: Adding nfs and ip modules to base
>Author:  debian-user@lists.debian.org at cclink
>Date:07.08.96 05:25
>
>
>Hi,
>
>During installation I was prompted to select some modules to
>install.
>
>I wanted nfs but it replied
>
>   nfs_mknod undefined
>   nfs_sillyrename_create undefined
>   nfs_create undefined undefined
>   nfs_mkdir undefined undefined
>   nfs_lookup_cache undefined undefined
>   nfs_rename undefined undefined
>   nfs_lookup undefined undefined
>   nfs_nfs_rmdir undefined undefined
>   nfs_link undefined
>   nfs_refresh_inode undefined
>   nfs_symlink undefined
>   nfs_unlink undefined
>   Loading failed ! The module symbols 
>   (from linux-2.0.6) don't match your linux-2.0.6
>   Installation failed
>
>For the internet protocol drivers it said:
>   Can't locate module console
>
>And for my ne2000 card:
>   ne.c : Module autoprobing not allowed
>   append "io=0xNNN" values
>
>   (Howabout pointer to Ethernet Howto in Installation doc
>   where values to try above can be found)
>
>I also tried (with identical results):
>   modprobe -t fs nfs.o
>
>
>Fortunatly, can still use computer since didn't overwrite
>previous system.  However, can't install Debian since cannot
>mount the nfs drive where distribution will be kept.
>
>Have read the Module-Howto and related Docs but can't find 
>a solution to these problems.  I fed the first line of nfs 
>error message to dejanews using 200,000 linux messages and it 
>found nothing !  It looks simple, since the
>messges don't seem cryptic, but what do I know ...
>
>Thanks in advance for any enlightenment,
>Jay
>
>
>
>
===
Jim Gerace
Senior Systems Engineer
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www:   http://www.kasinet.com



Cannot compile mouse support - help!

1996-08-08 Thread John Juergensen
Hi all,

  I'm trying to compile mouse support into my kernel (2.0.6), but for the
life of me I can't get the mouse to function.  I have a busmouse on an
ATI Graphics Ultra + card (which the HOWTO says is a regular busmouse,
NOT an ATI busmouse).  When I run MSD under dos, it reports a busmouse
using IRQ4.  So far, so good.

  When I try to use the mouse (gpm -m /dev/inportbm) I just get the
message "/dev/inportbm - No such device".  So I tried removing the
inportbm and recreating it (mknod /dev/inportbm c 10 2); running the
"file" command on the new inportbm indicates that it is a character
special (10, 2).  Still no luck - no such device.

  I've tried compiling with busmouse support and NO serial support,
compiling with serial support and NO busmouse support, and compiling
with both busmouse AND serial support.  In all cases I get "no such device"
when using /dev/inportbm.  On the two kernels with serial support, the
gpm -m /dev/ttys0 command does not fail with an error, but it does not
provide any visible mouse support either.  And I have checked that
busmouse.h #defines MOUSE_IRQ = 4.  I set both serial and busmouse support
to be in the kernel, not in modules.

  I've read the busmouse-HOWTO and the FAQ and have not been able to
solve this problem.  Does anybody have any ideas what I'm doing wrong here?
The mouse works fine under DOS/Windows, so it shouldn't be a hardware problem.

  Thanks all.

-jj



Re: printing and .profile problems

1996-08-08 Thread Ed Donovan
Hi Chris - 

Is there an existing .bash_profile in that directory?  I believe Debian
by default gives you one.  If so, .profile will not be read:  

  Login shells:
On login (subject to the -noprofile option):
  if /etc/profile exists, source it.

  if ~/.bash_profile exists, source it,
else if ~/.bash_login exists, source it,
  else if ~/.profile exists, source it.

(from the man page)
So you could rework it one way or another to get your command sourced.
(You can also instead just put it in .bashrc, which practically always
gets read by interactive shells.  But why leave this .profile ambiguity
hanging anyway? :-)

The other possibility is less likely: that you are somehow running a
sub-shell, not a login shell.  If you were using an xterm this might be
the case.  But any login from a console prompt should be a login shell,
and read the startup files as specified above.  Specifying login
behavior, or the .bashrc solution, would work if it was a sub.  

Hth,

-- 

Ed Donovan  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Floppy won't boot with internal cache enabled

1996-08-08 Thread Dan Bergman
Guy Maor wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, Steve Gaarder wrote:
> 
> > I am installing Debian 1.1.1 on a generic clone with an AMD 486 on an
> > Opti-based motherboard.  If I have the internal cache enabled in setup,
> > I get the error "invalid compressed format" after the "uncompressing
> > Linux" message.  If I disable the cache, it boots fine.  It boots ok
> > from the hard drive either way.  Anyone know what is going on?
> 
> I don't see how this could happen with an L1 cache (internal), but it
> could with an L2 (external).  Were you perhaps enabling and disabling
> the external?  Try to enable it but make the timings more
> conservative.  You're probably seeing hardware problems; your L2 cache
> is being addressed too quickly.
> 
> Guy

I had problems like this a couple years back when I was installing OS/2
on a Dell Machine (486,66mhz).. The installation would fail if I didn't
disabel both L1 and L2 caches.. But I ripped out the TsengLab GFX card
(VLB)
and all troubles went away.. Ripping out gfx card is often not a option 
but the Dell MB had a Cyrrus Logic Chip on it...



Two bug reports on installation floppies

1996-08-08 Thread Lindsay Allen

As I see it, the installation floppies (1996-07-14) have three problems:

1)  There are unresolved sysmbols in the nfs and de4x5 modules.

2)  Something amiss with hostname.  When I boot I get the message:
none: Host name lookup failure
at the point where boot executes 
hostname --file /etc/hostname.
I have edited /etc/issue to show hostname.domain and getty comes out
with
elm.(none).


HTH

Lindsay









Re: Ftp method in dselect

1996-08-08 Thread Christian Hudon
On 6 Aug 1996, Andy Guy wrote:

> Al Youngwerth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Guy: could you move dpkg-ftp into unstable, this would avoid these
> problems.

I agree... IMHO, the current version of dpkg-ftp is certainly good enough
for 'unstable'. And since we're including it with the base disks now,
it seems illogical to hide the .deb in project/experimental.

  Christian




dns

1996-08-08 Thread Mahoney, Hugh M.


I would like to set up a dns on linux.  This  name server will serve a 
private domain encompassing a wireless network.

I will very shortly have dial-in access to a ISP to provide internet 
visibility to wireless network users.

 Is it possible to configure a  private dns to resolve a name query and in 
the event the query fails  forward the query to the Internet Service 
Providers domain name server ?   Private names must be  resolved locally by 
the linux dns and never require resolution over the internet.

The private domain,  at this time is not recognized by the internet 
community and names specific to the private domain cannot be resolved.  Each 
private name would  be entered manualy into a  private dns cache.

Any suggestions ?



RE: catch 22?

1996-08-08 Thread wb2oyc

On 23:36:54 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> masquerading, somehow or other both my kernel-image and kernel-source
>> packages have gotten to a state where I'm stuck fast!
>
>Before you try anything drastic, check the #!/... line of the
>post-install scripts for the kernel. Mine pointed to a non-
>existent perl. Either modify the script(s) or create a link
>to the correct Perl. Once I had created the link, the install
>went forward without a hitch.
>
Owen,

Thanks for suggesting caution.  Others have suggested the
scripts having that error also.  However, I have managed to
resolve the dilemma.  I tried Heiko's suggestion and edited
my status file.  I changed the kernel-source and image status
to "purge ok not-installed".  Then ran dselect, since I wanted to
install a few other packages as well.  All went fine!  Except that 
now the postinst script fails.  This is not dibilatating however as
the source is now intact and the original kernel image (and the
compressed) are where they should be.  I believe this same error
occured on the initial install of the kernel stuff
as well.

Paul



The "*" character (was: Latex )

1996-08-08 Thread Mark Phillips
>It would be helpful if you could tell us what version of the packages
>you have installed.  For example, if you would run this commands:
>
>  dpkg -l *tex*

I noticed that this doesn't work under tcsh, but does work under
bash.  Is there a difference between how the * character is treated
under the two shells?

Thanks,

Mark.



Re: Anyone want xanim as a deb package

1996-08-08 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Shaya Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I just got xanim compiled on my system with full for cinepack and indeo 
> enconding, I also compiled in sound, but I have no idea if it works since 
> I don't have a sound card on my linux box.  If anyone want it, I will try 
> to put it together as a package.  It should be pretty easy just one file 
> is neccesary to run it.  

Please be sure to check on the redistributability of the cinepak and
indeo code---I'm not sure it can be redistributed _at all_, and I'm
fairly certain that it would have to go in non-free.

Which isn't to say I wouldn't like to see the package---just that this
is one that probably needs all its proverbial ts crossed and is dotted.

Mike.



Recommendations on mother boards?

1996-08-08 Thread Douglas Bates
I will soon be purchasing a custom system to run Debian GNU/Linux.  Since
I must get bids from different vendors, I might as well give detailed
specifications if that will enhance the performance with Linux.

Does anyone have comments on specific Pentium Pro motherboards?

For example, Bruce Perens mentioned on this list some time ago that
the combination of the IDE controller in the Triton chipset with an
EIDE drive is as fast as fast, wide SCSI.  I found that the system I
was using had the Triton chipset and enabled the Triton-specific
optimizations in the kernel.  The results were very pleasing.

Are there similar things to look for when purchasing a motherboard today?

Please e-mail me and I will summarize to the list.

-- 
Douglas Bates[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Statistics Department608/262-2598
University of Wisconsin - Madisonhttp://www.stat.wisc.edu/~bates/



Re: XServer for ET4000/W32p hangs!!

1996-08-08 Thread Mark Phillips
>On Wed, 7 Aug 1996, Mark Phillips wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have a friend who I am trying to help install debian 1.1.  He has an
>> ET4000/W32p graphics card.  I installed the appropriate server, went
>> through the xbase-configure program to create an XF86Config file, and
>> then ran "X -probeonly 2> out.txt" to try and get a clock line.  The
>> system just hung and I had to do a Ctr-Alt-Del to get out.
>> 
>> I couldn't work out what the problem was.  Any ideas?  I include the
>> out.txt file below.
>
>There are many problems with the ET4000/W32 cards.  You can try a beta
>version from XFREE or try my solution--replace the card with one that
>works under the present XFREE86 distribution.

Hmm, I thought it was supposed to work.  Anyway, what cards would you
recommend as being good and reliable, working well under the present
XFree86?

Thanks,

Mark.



Re: XServer for ET4000/W32p hangs!!

1996-08-08 Thread Syrus Nemat-Nasser
On Thu, 8 Aug 1996, Mark Phillips wrote:

> >On Wed, 7 Aug 1996, Mark Phillips wrote:
> >
> >There are many problems with the ET4000/W32 cards.  You can try a beta
> >version from XFREE or try my solution--replace the card with one that
> >works under the present XFREE86 distribution.
> 
> Hmm, I thought it was supposed to work.  Anyway, what cards would you
> recommend as being good and reliable, working well under the present
> XFree86?

I have used several versions of the Diamond Stealth 64 cards.  I replaced
a Stealth 32 (ET4000) with a Stealth 64 (S3 868 with 2M VRAM).  I use a
VLB Stealth 64 864 DRAM at home.  I've also used the PCI version of the
Stealth 64 DRAM with the Trios64 chipset at work--this one is now selling
locally for as little as $77 in San Diego.  The problem with Diamond is
that they change their hardware versions almost every month, but all of
the above work well and are accelerated with the S3 sever.  I think it is
probably possible to do better and/or go cheaper, but I've stuck with
these cards on all of my machines.

I spent about a day trying to get the W32 server to work with that Stealth
32.  That was several months back.  I read the postings on the Linux news
groups and found that people were having limited success with the beta
versions of XFREE, but they could not even get more than 256 colors.  That's
when I decided to swap the card with someone at work who doen't run Linux.

Good luck.

Syrus.

--
Syrus Nemat-Nasser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>UCSD Physics Dept.



Re: So which email package do you ,use

1996-08-08 Thread Kai Grossjohann
> W " "Bart," "Jr writes:

  W> so which  email package do you folks like?

For high-volume email users, I recommend Gnus which is a combined
mail/news reader package for Emacs.  Emacs is a Debian package and
contains Gnus.

kai
-- 
What's a signature?




RE: catch 22?

1996-08-08 Thread Crow, Owen

> I've managed to get myself in a catch-22 kind of dilemma.  In an effort
> to get a working 2.0.0 kernel with the proper options to support IP
> masquerading, somehow or other both my kernel-image and kernel-source
> packages have gotten to a state where I'm stuck fast!

Before you try anything drastic, check the #!/... line of the
post-install scripts for the kernel. Mine pointed to a non-
existent perl. Either modify the script(s) or create a link
to the correct Perl. Once I had created the link, the install
went forward without a hitch.

Good luck,
Owen  



Anyone want xanim as a deb package

1996-08-08 Thread Shaya Potter
I just got xanim compiled on my system with full for cinepack and indeo 
enconding, I also compiled in sound, but I have no idea if it works since 
I don't have a sound card on my linux box.  If anyone want it, I will try 
to put it together as a package.  It should be pretty easy just one file 
is neccesary to run it.  

Shaya Potter
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: printing and .profile problems

1996-08-08 Thread Mike Miller

Chris,
I had the same problem with my profile.  My work around
was editing (creating?) the .bash_profile   file.  At least I think that's
it, I'm at school now.  It's just like .profile , but renamed to confuse
us !  Good luck.
Mike.




On Wed, 7 Aug 1996, chris beamis wrote:

> >> 2. another problem, which I didn't have under Slackware, is using a 
> >> .profile
> >> in the user's home area. I have just one line in it, "alias 'lo'=exit" 
> >> which
> >> has always worked before but the lo commanded doesn't get recognized. I 
> >> also
> >> tried renaming the file to .login but still no luck. Any ideas?
> 
> Leszek,
>   Sorry, I should have mentioned that it is the same .profile which I've
> always used successfully with Slackware releases. I was going from memory
> which is the only reason I got the quotes wrong. There is something else
> going on causing bash or something to ignore my .profile.
> 
> Thanks anyway.
> 
> Chris Beamis
> 
> 



Re: The "*" character (was: Latex )

1996-08-08 Thread Mark Phillips
>> But the interesting thing is that dpkg -l *tex* actually _works_ when
>> run under bash, leading me to think that the bash shell doesn't expand
>> the argument first.
>> 
>Are you sure you tried dpkg -l *tex* in a directory where you know there's 
>a file whose name matches the pattern *tex*, and whose name is not that 
>of a debian package?  On my system both bash and tcsh behaved the same way.

Very strange.  Here is what I did on my system under bash:

(mark, destiny)$ ls
Maelstromgnuchesscmaelstromxonix
Maelstrom_sound  gnuchessnmirrormagic  xp-replay
acm  gnuchessrnethack  xpat2
acms gnuchessxpostprintxpilot
cmailgnugopxboard  xpilots
fortune  gnushogi xasteroids   xshogi
game gnushogirxbattle  xsok
gnuangnushogixxboard   xtet42
gnuchess kill-acmsxinvadersxtron
(mark, destiny)$ dpkg -l *tex*
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ NameVersionDescription
+++-===-==-
un  X11-text-viewer  (no description available)
pn  amslatex (no description available)
pn  amstex   (no description available)
pn  auctex   (no description available)
pn  bibtex   (no description available)
pn  gettext  (no description available)
pn  hyperlatex   (no description available)
pn  latex(no description available)
pn  latex2e-doc  (no description available)
pn  latex2rtf(no description available)
ii  nb-tex  2.1-1  NTeX package
ii  nb-texi 2.1-1  NTeX package
ii  ntex2.1-1  NTeX package
ii  nx-etex 2.1-1  NTeX package
ii  nx-mtex 2.1-1  NTeX package
un  tex  (no description available)
pn  texbin   (no description available)
pn  texidoc  (no description available)
ii  texinfo 3.7-1  The GNU Project's documentation formatting s
pn  texlib   (no description available)
pn  texpsfnt (no description available)
pn  textfm   (no description available)
ii  textutils   1.19-1 The GNU text file processsing utilities.
ii  untex   9210-4 Remove LaTeX commands from input.


(Which incidently is the same as what I get when I use the quotes)

Mark.



Japanese support

1996-08-08 Thread rodrigue-joe
Is there any support under Debian Linux for displaying or editing Japanese
text?



nfs.o module in version 2.0.6

1996-08-08 Thread Mr A Birdi


Dear users,

This is in reply to some of the queries regarding the nfs module in
version 2.0.6 of the kernel. At least two people have responded with
the advice to recompile the kernel which seems to be a succesful
approach. 

I have discovered however that the problem lies with the module nfs.o
itself. Lazaro Salem ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) was kind enough to send me
his recompiled version of nfs.o which works fine with the kernel 
supplied with Debian 1.1.3. Thus, a solution to the problem is to
merely recompile the module and not necessarilly the entire kernel. If
there is enough interest, I can upload the nfs.o module which Lazaro
supplied to me to some public site until the Debian maintainers fix
the problem. Please write me if you would like this to happen.

Alvin

-- 
-
   | Alvin BirdiEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
   | School of Economic Studies Tel: 0161 275-4791   |
   | University of Manchester   Fax: 0161 275-4812   |
   | Manchester M13 9PL  UK  |
-



Re: printing and .profile problems

1996-08-08 Thread Kevin M Bealer
On Wed, 7 Aug 1996, chris beamis wrote:

> 
> Leszek,
>   Sorry, I should have mentioned that it is the same .profile which I've
> always used successfully with Slackware releases. I was going from memory
> which is the only reason I got the quotes wrong. There is something else
> going on causing bash or something to ignore my .profile.
> 
> Thanks anyway.
> 
> Chris Beamis

Is it named .profile?  I have a .profile in /etc/ but in my home
directory I use ".bash_profile" and ".bash_rc".


[EMAIL PROTECTED]/GNU__1.1___Linux__2.0.11___
"Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra and then suddenly
it flips over, pinning you underneath.  At night, the ice
weasels come."
-- Matt Groening



Re: printing and .profile problems

1996-08-08 Thread Mke Wood
At 11:19 PM 8/6/96 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Hi, I hope I'm doing this right. I tried to post to the linux.debian.user
>newsgroup without success.
>
>Anyway, I just installed Debian 1.1.2 in late July (my first Debian
>installation), with a few problems. I've fixed some of them thanks to this
>forum, but there are two among the many left that I'm trying to fix right now.
>
>1. dselect didn't configure lpr correctly so I did it myself using the
>printing HOWTO which I've done successfully many times before with Slackware
>releases. Now root can print but users get the message, "usr can't create
>/usr/spool/lpd/hp4p/.seq". This is with the permissions on that file set to
>rw_rw_r as the HOWTO says. I tried changing the permissions to rw_rw_rw but
>then a user gets the message "usr can't create
>/usr/spool/lpd/hp4p/tfA006Aa01777". As far as I know I have the permissions
>set correctly in all the directories leading to this file, but this seems
>like a permission problem. I'm stuck!
Try this 
chmod 777 /usr/spool/lpd/hp4p/
 and then 
chmod u+t /usr/spool/lpd/hp4p/

It sounds to me like lpr needs this area as a scratch pad
before printing.  Chmod u+t sets the sticky bit, which allows users to erase
only files they create.  This should clear up your problem, and if some Unix
guru out there noticed my syntax was wrong please point out to the world so
I don't make the same mistake myself ;>.

Mike...


>Thanks in advance for any help.
>
>Chris Beamis
np



linux.debian.user newsgroup (Re: printing and .profile problems)

1996-08-08 Thread Stuart Lamble
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Susan Kleinmann wrote:
: 
: Hi Chris --
: 
: You said:
: > I tried to post to the linux.debian.user newsgroup without success.

: There isn't any newsgroup -- just this mailing list.

Actually, linux.debian.user exists, but it appears to be a gateway from
the mailing list to USENET - it doesn't seem to work the other way
around. :-( I can read from it, but it doesn't seem to reach the mailing
list if I post to it.

Just FWIW. (and, again FWIW, I'm mailing this to debian-user, not posting
it.)

-- 
Windows is not the answer. Windows is the question. Linux is the answer.
http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/ for all your PC software requirements.



Re: dselect/dpkg problem: install/remove

1996-08-08 Thread Mike Miller
> "john" == John Houwen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I seem to have a similar problem with dselect/dpkg, but not
> with the dpkg-ftp option (haven't gotten that far yet)

> The dselect package has given me problems from the first. I
> made a few errors in my 1st attempt at the CDRom install,
> but managed to get most of the selected packages unpacked &
> installed.  Where dselect hung was on the
> kernel-source/kernel-headers packages. (where is
> local/binary ??)

[snip]


This sounds like the problem that I'm having.  I installed debian
on a new system and all went well until I tried to use dselect to
install the kernel-source package.  While doing that, dpkg
crashed with a segmentation fault.  So I tried to use dselect to
purge the kernel-source package and again dpkg crashed, this time
leaving me with a hung system.  All I could do was power cycle my
machine since the keyboard was apparently frozen and I could not
log in on any other consoles.  This left me with a bad disk which
I cannot fix because now e2fsck crashes with a segmentation
fault.  It looks like I'm going to have to reformat my hard disk
and reinstall from scratch. :(

I don't have any answers for you, but you are not alone.  I'm
tempted to try a different distribution in hopes of getting a
stable system.

I'll let you know if I come up with any solutions.

Mike

-- 
Michael A. Miller  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Nuclear Physics Lab, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
  PGP public key at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/miller5>



Re: printing and .profile problems

1996-08-08 Thread Malc Arnold
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
chris beamis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>2. another problem, which I didn't have under Slackware, is using a .profile
>in the user's home area. I have just one line in it, "alias 'lo'=exit" which
>has always worked before but the lo commanded doesn't get recognized. I also
>tried renaming the file to .login but still no luck. Any ideas?

Check if there's a file called ".bash_profile" in the user's home
directory (there probably will be; it's the default).  If so, then
bash will execute that when you start a login shell, and ignore the
.profile.  Try sticking the alias in ".bash_profile" or ".bashrc".

>Thanks in advance for any help.

No problem, hope it helps.
-- 
M a l c . . . |  "We've checked, and it's definitely not a bug.
([EMAIL PROTECTED])  |  It's fixed in the new release."  -- Help line.



Re: dselect/dpkg problem: install/remove

1996-08-08 Thread Jim Pick
In article "John Houwen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>I have tried to remove these packages, but upon running either 
>dselect or dpkg I get something along the lines of "Package is in an 
>unstable/condititon please re-install before attempting to remove"
>

The kernel-image, kernel-source and kernel-package packages have a
bug in the installation scripts.  The prerm and preinst scripts
refer to #! /bin/perl .  Unfortunately, on a virgin Debian 1.1
system, there is no /bin/perl.  The solution is to create a symlink
from /usr/bin/perl to /bin/perl.  Then you should be able to 
de-install and re-install the kernel packages no problem.

- Jim




Re: Compose characters in X

1996-08-08 Thread Mark Eichin

> which puzzles me. Why does the order differ? (BTW, in a mono xterm it
> works like under Emacs.)

I'm even more surprised, as color_xterm maintainer -- because
color_xterm should only differ from mono xterm in, you guessed it,
color features... as far as I can tell I'm building it with the same
sources and options as the xbase xterm is using...



Re: printing and .profile problems

1996-08-08 Thread N. Salwen
>2. another problem, which I didn't have under Slackware, is using a .profile
>in the user's home area. I have just one line in it, "alias 'lo'=exit" which
>has always worked before but the lo commanded doesn't get recognized. I also
>tried renaming the file to .login but still no luck. Any ideas?

If .bash_profile or .bash_login are present .profile will not be used

>From the bash info file >
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File: features.info,  Node: Bash Startup Files,  Next: Is This Shell 
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Bash Startup Files
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   When and how Bash executes startup files.

 For Login shells (subject to the`~/.profile' exists, then source it.
 
If `~/.bash_profile' exists, then source it,
   else if `~/.bash_login' exists, then source it,
  else if `~/.profile' exists, then source it.



Re: The "*" character (was: Latex )

1996-08-08 Thread Susan G. Kleinmann
Hi Mark --

You said:
> Very strange.  Here is what I did on my system under bash:
> 
> (mark, destiny)$ ls
> Maelstromgnuchesscmaelstromxonix
> Maelstrom_sound  gnuchessnmirrormagic  xp-replay
> acm  gnuchessrnethack  xpat2
> acms gnuchessxpostprintxpilot
> cmailgnugopxboard  xpilots
> fortune  gnushogi xasteroids   xshogi
> game gnushogirxbattle  xsok
> gnuangnushogixxboard   xtet42
> gnuchess kill-acmsxinvadersxtron
> (mark, destiny)$ dpkg -l *tex*
> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
> | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
> |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=ba
d)
> ||/ NameVersionDescription
> +++-===-==-==
==
> un  X11-text-viewer  (no description available)
> pn  amslatex (no description available)
> pn  amstex   (no description available)
> pn  auctex   (no description available)
> pn  bibtex   (no description available)
> pn  gettext  (no description available)
> pn  hyperlatex   (no description available)
> pn  latex(no description available)
> pn  latex2e-doc  (no description available)
> pn  latex2rtf(no description available)
> ii  nb-tex  2.1-1  NTeX package
> ii  nb-texi 2.1-1  NTeX package
> ii  ntex2.1-1  NTeX package
> ii  nx-etex 2.1-1  NTeX package
> ii  nx-mtex 2.1-1  NTeX package
> un  tex  (no description available)
> pn  texbin   (no description available)
> pn  texidoc  (no description available)
> ii  texinfo 3.7-1  The GNU Project's documentation formatting
 s
> pn  texlib   (no description available)
> pn  texpsfnt (no description available)
> pn  textfm   (no description available)
> ii  textutils   1.19-1 The GNU text file processsing utilities.
> ii  untex   9210-4 Remove LaTeX commands from input.
> 
> 
> (Which incidently is the same as what I get when I use the quotes)
> 


What you got was correct.

Your directory listing shows no files which match *tex*.  Therefore,
the shell couldn't expand *tex* to anything in your directory, and 
therefore passed the string *tex* to dpkg, which expanded it on its own.

If:
-- you have a file whose name matches *tex* in the current working directory,
   AND
   if the name of that file _is not_ the name of a Debian package, 

   then dpkg wouldn't be able to infer its status.  You'd get a message 
   "No packages found matching ."

-- you have a file whose name matches *tex* in the current working directory,
   AND
   if the name of the file _is_ the name of a Debian package,

   then dpkg -l would be able to look up its status and report it.

-- you do not have a file whose name matches *tex* in the current working 
   directory,

   then the shell passes *tex* to dpkg, which expands the regexp in its
   administrative directories.

HTH,
Susan



Re: catch 22?

1996-08-08 Thread wb2oyc
>
>manually created the symlink

Jim, 

THANKS!  I'll give that a try.best suggestion I've heard today

:-)
Paul
>
>- Jim



Re: The "*" character (was: Latex )

1996-08-08 Thread Susan G. Kleinmann
Hi Mark --
You said:
> in response to: 
> >Hi Mark --
> >You asked:
> >> because I'd said:
> >> >It would be helpful if you could tell us what version of the packages
> >> >you have installed.  For example, if you would run this commands:
> >> >
> >> >  dpkg -l *tex*
> >> 
> >> I noticed that this doesn't work under tcsh, but does work under
> >> bash.  Is there a difference between how the * character is treated
> >> under the two shells?
> >
> >
> >What I'd written was actually not right for either shell.
> >
> >I should have written:
> >
> > dpkg -l "*tex*"
> >
> >The problem is that without the quotes, the shell expands the argument
> >first, before handing it to dpkg.  If there's a file in your current
> >directory with a name that matches *tex*, then that file, and only that
> >file, is fed to dpkg.  This is not what's intended of course.
> >
> >So I tried the correct usage (with the quotes) under tcsh and it worked
> >fine.
> 
> But the interesting thing is that dpkg -l *tex* actually _works_ when
> run under bash, leading me to think that the bash shell doesn't expand
> the argument first.
> 
Are you sure you tried dpkg -l *tex* in a directory where you know there's 
a file whose name matches the pattern *tex*, and whose name is not that 
of a debian package?  On my system both bash and tcsh behaved the same way.

Susan



ifconfig refuses to configure loopback address

1996-08-08 Thread Mike

I'm trying to install Debian 1.1 and can't seem to get the loopback
device configured. At boot up the error:

SCIOADDRT: Invalid argument

appears when the /etc/init.d/network script runs. The offending line
in this script is:

route add -net 127.0.0.0

ifconfig reports (output below) that the loopback interface does not
have the inet addr that I expect it to have (nor the one that it had
under Debian 0.93R6, BTW).

Any help or pointers appreciated. Mike.

Here's the output from ifconfig:

lo   Link encap:Local Loopback  
 inet addr:255.255.255.255  Bcast:127.255.255.255  Mask:255.0.0.0
[which used to read:
 inet addr:127.0.0.1 Bcast:127.255.255.255  Mask:255.0.0.0
]
 UP BROADCAST LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3584  Metric:1
 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0

eth0 Link encap:10Mbps Ethernet  HWaddr 00:A0:24:0D:08:7E
 inet addr:xxx.yyy.zzz.164  Bcast:xxx.yyy.zzz.191  Mask:255.255.255.192
 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
 RX packets:1074 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
 TX packets:135 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
 Interrupt:5 Base address:0x300 

Here's the current /etc/init.d/network script:
#!  /bin/sh
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
route add -net 127.0.0.0
IPADDR=xxx.yyy.zzz.164
NETMASK=255.255.255.192
NETWORK=xxx.yyy.zzz.128
BROADCAST=xxx.yyy.zzz.191
GATEWAY=xxx.yyy.zzz.129
ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
route add -net ${NETWORK}
route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1

And, FWIW, here's the 0.93R6 /etc/init.d/network:
#! /bin/sh
# network: establish the network connection.
# $Id: network,v 1.1 1995/02/19 20:29:29 imurdock Exp $

# Configure the loopback device.
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
route add 127.0.0.1

# Configure the ethernet device or start SLIP/PPP below.
IPADDR="xxx.yyy.zzz.164"# Your IP address.
NETMASK="255.255.255.192"   # Your netmask.
NETWORK="xxx.yyy.zzz.128"   # Your network address.
BROADCAST="xxx.yyy.zzz.191" # Your broadcast address (blank if none).
GATEWAY="xxx.yyy.zzz.129"   # Your gateway address.

/sbin/ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}

/sbin/route add -net ${NETWORK}
/sbin/route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1



Re: Compose characters in X

1996-08-08 Thread Kai Grossjohann
> Yves Arrouye writes:

  Yves> If only Motif would get these keys too, and differentiate
  Yves> between backspace and delete, I'd be really happy.

I think Motif uses a way that involves the Multi_key keysym.  Assign
this keysym to some key and see if you can use it as a Compose key for
Motif programs.  (For me, Multi_key worked just fine for Emacs, too.
On a SPARC Solaris 2.5 machine, though.)

kai
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Re: IP forwarding and/or Masquerading

1996-08-08 Thread Kai Grossjohann
> James D LaPlaine writes:

  Jamie> I'm still struggling to get my PPP connection working
  Jamie> properly. Although the chat script is making the connection,
  Jamie> I can;t send any packets to any machine other than the one I
  Jamie> am dailing in on. Even then it only works a little, I can't
  Jamie> even ping that machine (or myself, whether I have ppp running
  Jamie> or not.) 

Type `route' and see what kinds of routes you have.  I had to add the
following command to my /etc/ppp/ip-up script:

route add -net default ippp0

Substitute the right device for ippp0 -- I'm using ISDN.  You probably
want modem or cua0 or ttyS0 or something, which ever device you have
specified in /etc/ppp/options.

kai
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Re: Compose characters in X

1996-08-08 Thread Kai Grossjohann
> Yves Arrouye writes:

  Yves>   - one user under VIP couldn't search because / is a prefix
  Yves>   key too :-(

Look at the function iso-accents-customize.  Here's what I set up for
German:

; put this in site-start.el or in .emacs
(eval-after-load
 "iso-acc"
 '(progn
(setq iso-languages
  (cons '("german" (?\" (?A . ?Ä) (?O . ?Ö) (?U . ?Ü)
(?a . ?ä) (?o . ?ö) (?u . ?ü)
(?s . ?ß) (?< . ?«) (?> . ?»)))
iso-languages))
(iso-accents-customize "german")))

But I think the default value of iso-languages has a value for french,
just German was missing -- let this be for the benefit of the German
readers of this mailing list...

kai
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special-kernels

1996-08-08 Thread stevem
I recently posted a problem I was having installing a "special-kernel" with
the boot disk during the installation procedure. Gilbert Ramirez responded
indicating he had the same problem (error in format archive) with these
kernels, and the culpret was the "modules.tgz" file on the boot disk. It is
corrupt.

I can verify that. I needed to do what Gilbert did, and that was to 
gunzip, un-tar, re-tar, and re-gzip the file, and put it back on the
boot disk. The install went fine after that. (I did remove a module or two
I wouldn't need to be sure it would fit back on the floppy). 

Of course if your computer is in the state of installing debian, you won't 
be able to do these things on THAT machine, and if you don't have a spare 
linux/unix computer, your ingenuity skills will be challenged.  

You can test the modules.tgz file on the boot disk by doing a 
"tar -tzvf /modules.tgz" looking for an "unexpected EOF"
error message at the end of the tar list. 

   Steve Millard   Harrisburg, Pa. USA
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