Re: DANGER: installing ld.so libc5 with dftp

1996-09-13 Thread Mike Coleman
   Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:19:55 -0400
   From: Brian C. White [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   Apparently, until ld.so is configured libc5 won't install, and if
   libc5 insn't configured then perl breaks.  After which nothing will
   install.

I believe this just happened to me with dpkg-ftp as well.

--Mike



Re: !HELP! How to avoid the mail-lock (fetchpop / popclient)

1996-09-13 Thread Vadik V. Vygonets
On Thu, 12 Sep 1996, Marc Weeber wrote:

 Here, at my work I have to retrieve my mail from a novell server. I 
 can do this by `fetchpop' or `popclient'. This is all right, but when 
 I'm usingthe mailagent  Pine as an ordinary user, I only can read the 
 inbox file, but I cannot alter it: pine can't get the mailbox lock 
 from the incoming folder. However, as root I do not have a problem.

Your inbox must have the following permissions/owner/group:
-rw-rw   1 vadikmail   105980 Sep 12 22:16  /usr/spool/mail/vadik
Check that.

 If someone can help me with this problem, I would be very, very 
 pleased.

Hope it helps.

 thanks in advance,

My pleasure.

 Marc

Vadik.

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Re: Mailagent package broken?

1996-09-13 Thread Behan Webster
 Mannually adding more rights seems to solve that, but the log file keeps
 complaining:
 
   mailagent[6]: starting SAVE /var/spool/mail/ben
   mailagent[6]: WARNING could not lock /var/spool/mail/ben
   mailagent[6]: WARNING was unable to get any lock on /var/spool
   /mail/ben
   mailagent[6]: ERROR could not save mail in /var/spool/mail/ben
 

Are you running mailagent as a user?  Because if you are it's
probably a problem with the permissions on /var/spool/mail.
Normal users shouldn't be able to create files in this directory
(arguable security risk).

Unfortunately to do mail file locking one must make a .lock file
in the same directory as the mail file you are locking. This means
having write access to /var/spool/mail.  Currently in debian (if
memory serves) only root and mail have write permission to this
directory.

If this is the problem, one fix (albeit one that causes an
arguable security risk) is to do a:

chmod o+w /var/spool/mail


Hope this helps!

Behan

-- 
Behan Webster
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(613) 224-7547



Installing on a portable

1996-09-13 Thread Tony Robinson
Can someone help me to install Debian on a portable (PCMCIA, no CDROM)?

Is there a how to install with PCMCIA mini-FAQ that I missed?

I've got as far as working out that the default kernel is compiled with
PCMCIA support, that there exists a pcmcia-cs*.deb package, but the boot
time network configure fails as there is no PCMCIA module loaded, nor
does it seem to come with base.  I could install base, copy over the
pcmcia-cs*.deb package on floppy and I assume use dkpg to install it -
only the man page for dkpg says use dselect and dselect want to install
the lot.  Any pointers, I can't be alone with this problem?

[ for background, I run six Linux boxes, two of the desktop boxes now
  run Debian, the other will soon, and the other three machines are
  portables so I need to know how to do this right.]


Tony Robinson



Re: Creating deb packages

1996-09-13 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel

  Algirdas Could someone please mail me a complete step-by-step instruction
  Algirdas on creating deb packages?  

  Vadik  Please post it to the list, 

New version of dpkg ( 1.4.0) or dpkg-dev (= 1.4.0) come with two html'ed
manuals in /usr/doc/dpkg/{programmer,policy}.html/ that pretty much cover it
all. 

--
Dirk Eddelbuttel http://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd



Re: bug ins installation disks utilities?

1996-09-13 Thread Amos Shapira
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write:
|Did you see any error messages on the floppy I/O?

No.  It seems to work without a problem at all times.  There
are no messages from the floppy drive even when the installation
fails - the base diskettes allways finish being read and fail only
when they are gzip'ed.

Thanks,

--Amos

--Amos Shapira| Of course Australia was marked for
133 Shlomo Ben-Yosef st.  |  glory, for its people had been chosen
Jerusalem 93 805  |  by the finest judges in England.
ISRAEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Anonymous



Re: static vs. dynamic - gimp

1996-09-13 Thread Shaya Potter



On Wed, 11 Sep 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hello all.
  
  I would like to install gimp.
  
  Pardon my ignorance ...
  I see that there are two versions.
  
  gimp-dmotif (dynamic)
  vs.
  gimp-smotif (static)

The Static version contains all the motif calls in it,

The Dynamic version needs motif shared libraries.

  
  I am using a standard debian install with X, tcp/ip ...
  
  I would like to know :
  
 q1 - how do I know if I can use the static version?

Yes.
  
 q2 - given a choice between both, what version would be better or
  faster  Are there any pros and/or cons to choosing one or 
  the other when both are valid options for a given machine 
  (i.e.. speed vs. size ... )?

The dynamic version would be better if you are willing to pay $50-100 for 
motif 

  
  Thanx in advance ...
  
  Keep up the good work - it is greatly appreciated.
 
 



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1996-09-13 Thread Michael J Hauan
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PLEASE!



FAQ: Work-Needing and Prospective Packages

1996-09-13 Thread Sven Rudolph
  Work-Needing and Prospective Packages for Debian GNU/Linux
  Sven Rudolph, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  $Id: packages.sgml,v 1.22 1996/09/12 22:26:04 sr1 Exp sr1 $

  1.  General Questions

  1.1.  What is Debian GNU/Linux

  Please read the Debian GNU/Linux FAQ (
  ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/doc/FAQ/debian-faq.html ).

  1.2.  Purpose of this document

  This document is intended to identify areas that need your
  contributions. It provides information that hopefully changes quite
  often, so it supplements the Debian GNU/Linux FAQ.

  1.3.  Feedback

  Please send additions, corrections, suggestions and wishes to Sven
  Rudolph [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Please mention to which version of
  this document your comments refer.

  2.  Packages needing a new maintainer

  If you find that you need to discontinue maintaining a package, send
  me an e-mail.

  If you believe that the following list is incomplete, i.e., that there
  are other packages in the Debian distribution that need a new
  maintainer, send me an e-mail.

  If you would like to maintain one of the packages listed here, send me
  an e-mail.

  Andrew D. Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  o  acs

  DJ Gregor [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  o  biff
  o  cdtool
  o  unclutter
  o  workbone
  o  xwpe

  Richard Kettlewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  o  aout-svgalib
  o  svgalib1
  o  svgalib1-bin
  o  svgalib1-dev

  Christian Linhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  o  statserial
  o  tgif
  o  xarchie

  Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  o  adjtimex
  o  fdutils
  o  hkgerman
  o  html2latex
  o  lyx
  o  metamail
  o  modules
  o  xautolock

  Dale Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  o  lclint
  o  mailx

  Ian Murdock [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  o  acm
  o  aout-librl (this package might be unnecessary now)
  o  pmake

  Jim Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  o  pari

  Sven Rudolph [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  o  seyon

  Peter Tobias [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  o  wu-ftpd

  3.  Packages that someone is working on

  Programs listed in this section aren't yet available as Debian
  packages, but someone is working on providing a package.

  If you would like to work on one of these packages please contact the
  responsible person listed below.

  Chris Fearnley [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  o  dome (http://www.netaxs.com/ cjf/jpegs.html)
  o  and probably : xli, Tix, povray

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl R. Sackett) :
  o  FreeLIP - large integer package
  o  GroupKit - development library for building realtime groupware apps
  o  LEE - Latent Energy Environments artificial life simulator
  o  rsaref - installer scripts for the RSAREF crypto library
  o  swarm - Objective-C based artificial life research tool
  o  premail - e-mail privacy package

  Richard Kaszeta [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  o  xmotd

  Mike Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  o  mule

  Sven Rudolph [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  o  xbill
  o  LPRng

  behan (b.) webster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  o  sxpc (Simple Xwindows Protocol Compresser)
  o  qfax (multi-user e-mail extension to efax).

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  o  tkHTML

  Darren [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  o  mew, giftool

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  o  BBDB (for Emacs: Big Brother Data Base, a rolodex with hooks into
 VM, GNUS, and RMAIL)

  Michael Alan Dorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  o  glimpsehttpd

  Warwick Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  o  mercury (a purely declarative logic programming language with
 strong modes, strong types, and strong determinism)

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  o  PAM (Pluggable Authentication Modules) (
 http://www.pilgrim.umass.edu/pub/osf_dce/RFC/rfc86.0.txt )

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  o  CLISP

  David H. Silber [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  o  dbackup - A Debian-specific backup program.
  o  lockstep - A program to keep various directory trees in sync.
  o  uucpconfig - A configuration program which will become part of my
 uucp package.
  o  latex2html

  Hakan Ardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  o  faces - visual list monitor

  Brian Sulcer [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  o  vile (vi-like editor)
  o  rogue
  o  umoria

  Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  o  vtwm: Virtual Window Manager for X11

  Michael Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  o  amanda, the University of Maryland's free network backup system.
  o  nntplink

  Bdale Garbee [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  o  spice (circuit simulation package)
  o  gforth

  Billy Chow [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  o  xbomb

  Alan Bain [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  o  gpc (GNU Pascal)

  Christophe Le Bars [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  o  Caml (A small, portable implementation of the ML language.)
  o  Objective Caml: Caml dialect extended with a complete class-based
 object system
  o  MMM: a WWW browser implemented in Caml

  Yves Arrouye [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  o  ppd-gs (a set of PPD files for my Ghostscript drivers)
  o  btoa

  Erick Branderhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  o  awk2c

  Jon Rabone [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  o  SISCAD

  Christian Lynbech [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
  o  ilisp (emacs interface to a number of lisp systems)
  o  calc  (emacs calculator package)
  o  hyperbole (emacs hypertext/info management 

Re: bleh...

1996-09-13 Thread Raja R Harinath
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Sailer) writes:
 I'm running the unstable tree. If someone else can try '/sbin/clock -r'
 and let me know if it seg faults, I'd appreciate it. It does it on
 2 systems here... :(

Yep... it segfaults for me too.

An `strace' looked like it was cribbing on a strange ioctl call, or
something like that.

- Hari

-- 
Raja R Harinath -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
When all else fails, read the instructions.  -- Cahn's Axiom
Our policy is, when in doubt, do the right thing.   -- Roy L Ash



Feature request: allow optional downgrade in dselect

1996-09-13 Thread Randy Gobbel
It's happened a couple of times now that I've tried newer versions of packages
in hopes that they would fix some problem (I'm still experiencing frequent
system hangs :-( ), only to find that for some reason I needed to go back to
the earlier version.  It would really be nice to be able to use dselect to do
this, and seems like it should be easy to implement as a new keystroke
command.

-Randy
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http://cogsci.ucsd.edu/~gobbel/

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for a minimum of 1 hour for my time spent dealing with it. Payment due in 30
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authorized representative.



Re: Installation problem with AIC7770 SCSI Controller

1996-09-13 Thread danny
There was a major patch to the aic7xxx driver that was originally
applied to kernel 2.0.7.  The patch became part of the regular kernel
2.0.13.  I was having similar problems upgrading to the 2.0.0 kernel
until I sent mail to the aic7xxx maintainer and got pointed to the
patch.  He (Dan Eischen) said that the patch had fixed many bugs.

In order to do a complete install, you'll need a kernel that includes
this patch on your installation boot disk.  If you (or a kind
acquaintance) builds such a kernel, they need to have it support ramdisk,
and to use the rdev.sh script on it (also on the boot disk).  The
installation boot disk is in DOS format, so you can copy to/from it
with mcopy.  Also, the debian installation procedure will complain
that the modules directory is empty (on the boot disk), but this isn't
serious (if you aren't using modules).

Here's where I got the patch and 2.0.7 sources.  You might also just
get a regular kernel later than 2.0.13 and skip the patches:


ftp.teleport.com:/pub/users/deang/Linux/aic7xxx/Experiment/
 
Dan Eischen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Good luck, and write if you need clarification.



Danny Heap, UCSF,  California St., Room 102, SF CA, 94122
[EMAIL PROTECTED], voice:   (415) 476-8910, fax: (415) 476-1508




Re: !HELP! How to avoid the mail-lock (fetchpop / popclient)

1996-09-13 Thread Boris Beletsky
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

On Thu, 12 Sep 1996, Marc Weeber wrote:

M.WeeberHello fellow debians,
M.Weeber
M.WeeberLast week, I moved over from slackware 3.0 to debian 1.1. What a 
M.Weeberrelief, really, except for one thing: my connection with the world. 
M.WeeberEverything installed just fine, However, my mail really bothers me.
M.Weeber
M.WeeberHere, at my work I have to retrieve my mail from a novell server. I 
M.Weebercan do this by `fetchpop' or `popclient'. This is all right, but when 
M.WeeberI'm usingthe mailagent  Pine as an ordinary user, I only can read the 
M.Weeberinbox file, but I cannot alter it: pine can't get the mailbox lock 
M.Weeberfrom the incoming folder. However, as root I do not have a problem.
M.Weeber
M.WeeberLast night, I managed to work my way around the problem with 
M.Weeberchmod-ding some directories and files. But at the xx-th startup, 
M.WeeberEverything was ruined again. For deleting my mail, I  have to use W95 
M.Weeberagain (arghhh...)
M.Weeber
M.WeeberIf someone can help me with this problem, I would be very, very 
M.Weeberpleased.
sounds like u need to recompile pine , precompiled pine sometimes have this
problem.
hope it helps 
borik


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texbin postinst in unstable fails

1996-09-13 Thread Miro Torrielli
I installed debian 1.1.8 on another pc, using dpgk-ftp to
retrieve all necessary packages, from stable  unstable.
Firstly, I noticed that when installing a large number of
packages on the system, the unpacking of some of them fail,
complaining that some lib or another is missing. This has
already happened twice before, on two other machines.

Second, and for the first time, texbin postinst fails, 
complaining of missing man.fmt. I had to manually comment
out the postinst script.

Finally, elm, in this new installation, has no ispell option
in mailing menu, whereas on my other machines it does.

Help would be appreciated.

*** Debian Linux, the choice of a GNU generation ! ***
**



Re: Creating deb packages

1996-09-13 Thread Boris Beletsky
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On Thu, 12 Sep 1996, Algirdas Kunigelis wrote:

algikun
algikunCould someone please mail me a complete step-by-step instruction on 
creating
algikundeb packages? The manual page is somewhat outdated... I actually 
figured out
algikunhow to do it simply using tar, gzip and ar (couldn't figure dpkg out),
algikunbut how do I make dpkg run some post-install shell script after 
unpacking it?
algikunThanks.
if smbd have a better man/doc/howto then the one in /usr/doc , plz 
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
thks alot
borik

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Re: Creating deb packages

1996-09-13 Thread Brian C. White
 Could someone please mail me a complete step-by-step instruction on creating
 deb packages? The manual page is somewhat outdated... I actually figured out
 how to do it simply using tar, gzip and ar (couldn't figure dpkg out),
 but how do I make dpkg run some post-install shell script after unpacking it?
 Thanks.

You also might be able to find this information using the new index of the
Debian web site.  Go to

http://insite.verisim.com/search/debian/advanced

and try the following query:

build* debian package*

I'm sure other queries will find similar information.  (The stars (*), by
the way, are globbing characters and will match any suffix of those words.)
 
  Brian
 ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )
 
---
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Re: Creating deb packages

1996-09-13 Thread Boris Beletsky
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On Thu, 12 Sep 1996, Brian C. White wrote:

bcwhite Could someone please mail me a complete step-by-step instruction on 
creating
bcwhite deb packages? The manual page is somewhat outdated... I actually 
figured out
bcwhite how to do it simply using tar, gzip and ar (couldn't figure dpkg out),
bcwhite but how do I make dpkg run some post-install shell script after 
unpacking it?
bcwhite Thanks.
bcwhite
bcwhiteThe best way I found was to grab an existing package (hello is a good 
one)
bcwhiteand learn how it does it.
i tryed to trace it via ps but with not much luck
the only thing i got from it is a general idea (gzip :)

Regards
borik

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Re: DANGER: installing ld.so libc5 with dftp

1996-09-13 Thread Guy Maor
On Thu, 12 Sep 1996, Mike Coleman wrote:

Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:19:55 -0400
From: Brian C. White [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
Apparently, until ld.so is configured libc5 won't install, and if
libc5 insn't configured then perl breaks.  After which nothing will
install.
 
 I believe this just happened to me with dpkg-ftp as well.

It sounds like dpkg-ftp and dftp don't respect pre-depends?  That would
be extremely bad.


Guy



Re: DANGER: installing ld.so libc5 with dftp

1996-09-13 Thread Brian C. White
 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:19:55 -0400
 From: Brian C. White [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Apparently, until ld.so is configured libc5 won't install, and if
 libc5 insn't configured then perl breaks.  After which nothing will
 install.
 
  I believe this just happened to me with dpkg-ftp as well.
 
 It sounds like dpkg-ftp and dftp don't respect pre-depends?  That would
 be extremely bad.

It is not the responsibility of either dpkg-ftp or dftp to handle
pre-depends in this case.  Since all of the relavent packages were passed
to dpkg at the same time, it is it's responsibility to ensure that
package unpacking and configuring happens in the correct order.
 
  Brian
 ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )
 
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Re: Creating deb packages

1996-09-13 Thread Brian C. White
 bcwhite Could someone please mail me a complete step-by-step instruction on 
 creating
 bcwhite deb packages? The manual page is somewhat outdated... I actually 
 figured out
 bcwhite how to do it simply using tar, gzip and ar (couldn't figure dpkg 
 out),
 bcwhite but how do I make dpkg run some post-install shell script after 
 unpacking it?
 bcwhite Thanks.
 bcwhite
 bcwhiteThe best way I found was to grab an existing package (hello is a good 
 one)
 bcwhiteand learn how it does it.

 i tryed to trace it via ps but with not much luck
 the only thing i got from it is a general idea (gzip :)

You don't want to trace it.  If you read the debian.rules (or debian/rules)
file, you'll see how a package is built.  Basically, you create a directory
(debian-tmp) and create a directory structure just like that of the debian
system and place your files in there.  One call to dpkg will then create
a package for you from that directory structure.
 
  Brian
 ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )
 
---
In theory, theory and practice are the same.  In practice, they're not.




Re: Creating deb packages

1996-09-13 Thread Boris Beletsky
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On Thu, 12 Sep 1996, Brian C. White wrote:


bcwhiteYou don't want to trace it.  If you read the debian.rules (or 
debian/rules)
bcwhitefile, you'll see how a package is built.  Basically, you create a 
directory
bcwhite(debian-tmp) and create a directory structure just like that of the 
debian
bcwhitesystem and place your files in there.  One call to dpkg will then 
create
bcwhitea package for you from that directory structure.
one call to dpkg ?
i am sorry , but i don't understand what u mean
prob the answer to my q is RTFM so plz flame me about it :-)
borik

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Re: unsubscribing these lists

1996-09-13 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel

  Michael How does one unsubscribe these lists?

$ echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Creating deb packages

1996-09-13 Thread Brian C. White
 bcwhiteYou don't want to trace it.  If you read the debian.rules (or 
 debian/rules)
 bcwhitefile, you'll see how a package is built.  Basically, you create a 
 directory
 bcwhite(debian-tmp) and create a directory structure just like that of the 
 debian
 bcwhitesystem and place your files in there.  One call to dpkg will then 
 create
 bcwhitea package for you from that directory structure.

 one call to dpkg ?
 i am sorry , but i don't understand what u mean
 prob the answer to my q is RTFM so plz flame me about it :-)

I think it's pretty obvious if you read the debian/rules file.  Here
is an example:

  binary: build
-rm -rf debian-tmp
mkdir -p debian-tmp debian-tmp/DEBIAN 
debian-tmp/usr/doc/$(package)/Examples
dpkg-gencontrol -is -ip debian-tmp/DEBIAN/control
make install PREFIX=debian-tmp/usr
cp debian/README debian-tmp/usr/doc/$(package)/Copyright
cat COPYING debian-tmp/usr/doc/$(package)/Copyright
cp examples/* debian-tmp/usr/doc/$(package)/Examples
find debian-tmp \( -name #* -o -name *~ \) -print | xargs rm -f
chown -R root.root debian-tmp
chmod -R go=rX debian-tmp
dpkg --build debian-tmp
dpkg-name -o -s .. debian-tmp.deb

Note how it creates a directory structure and then call dpkg --build
to make a debian package out of that directory structure.  The call to
dpkg-name then gives it the proper name.
 
  Brian
 ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )
 
---
In theory, theory and practice are the same.  In practice, they're not.




Re: texbin postinst in unstable fails

1996-09-13 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel

  Miro Torrielli writes:
  Miro  I installed debian 1.1.8 on another pc, using dpgk-ftp to retrieve
  Miro all necessary packages, from stable  unstable.  Firstly, I noticed
  Miro that when installing a large number of packages on the system, the
  Miro unpacking of some of them fail, complaining that some lib or another
  Miro is missing. This has already happened twice before, on two other
  Miro machines.

Il m'est impossible de voir ce que a echoue. Plus de detail?

  Miro Second, and for the first time, texbin postinst fails, complaining of
  Miro missing man.fmt. I had to manually comment out the postinst script.

C'est manfnt.mf. Install mfbasfnt-1.0-3 de buzz-fixed et ca ira. 

  Miro Finally, elm, in this new installation, has no ispell option in
  Miro mailing menu, whereas on my other machines it does.

Aucune idee, je n'utilise pas elm (mais emacs avec vm).

Amities, Dirk 

--
Dirk Eddelbuttel http://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd



Re: A couple of package spec glitches

1996-09-13 Thread Bret Badgett
Ed Donovan writes:
  
  I don't have the file around anymore, but in the last debian-changes
  announcement for xemacs, the maintainter noted that he had a problem
  with the installation of info files that both emacs and xemacs provide.
  He couldn't get xemacs to not overwrite the emacs-provided ones, and so
  had to list the packages as conflicting for now, though he was very
  unhappy about that.  I haven't downloaded the xemacs package, so I don't
  know if this is mentioned anywhere within.
  
  -- 
  Ed Donovan   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I've installed the /source xemacs-19.14 recently under debian with
only one snag on network database support.  The only common area
shared between FSF emacs and xemacs (under default config) lies in
user specific lisp directories. The problem is that FSF has changed
(from time to time) it's byte-compiled format, and that there are
other uniquenesses in each elisp/emacs.  Xemacs does come with a very
nice sample.emacs, which gives good hints on how to split these shared
resources within the same structure.

For FSF emacs 19.28-34.

As someone who as been dragging people into Emacs since the dark ages
I highly recommend Xemacs for the unwashed.

-- 
===
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System Administrator |  Internet:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Correa Enterprises, Inc. |
Theater Air Command and  |  Phone: (505) 846-6346
 Control Simulation Facility |  Fax:   (505) 256-0170
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Re: Debian 1.2 release date?

1996-09-13 Thread Bruce Perens
I think we've slipped a month, maybe a bit more. Sorry. Blame me - I have been
busy moving into a new home (we get posession on Monday), etc.

Thanks

Bruce



Re: Creating deb packages

1996-09-13 Thread Bruce Perens
The documentation on how to make a Debian package is in the package
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/unstable/binary-i386/base/dpkg_1.3.14.deb .
(The package version number will soon change, and the package may split
into base/dpkg* and devel/dpkg-dev* in the near future.)

Install that package, and then you will find the directories:

/usr/doc/dpkg/programmer.html
/usr/doc/dpkg/policy.html

These contain HTML documents for the Debian Programmer's Manual, and the
Debian Policy Manual. Read them with any web browser.

There is also a prototype hello world package
that you should use as a skeleton for your own package.
You can find that in the three files:

ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/unstable/source/misc/hello_1.3-12.dsc
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/unstable/source/misc/hello_1.3.orig.tar.gz
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/unstable/source/misc/hello_1.3-12.diff.gz

Put those in a directory and run dpkg-source -x hello_1.3-12.dsc. That
will extract the tar and create the directories hello_1.3 and
hello_1.3.orig, and will use patch to apply the diff to the files
in hello_1.3.

With those two manuals and the hello package source, you will have
everything you need to build a Debian package. I think you'll find it
quite easy.

If you are not running Debian and just want to look at the manuals,
you can get the file
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/project/experimental/dpkg_1.3.14_i386.nondebbin.tar.gz
 . That is a gzipped tar file containing all of the files of the
dpkg package for installation on non-Debian systems.

Thanks

Bruce



Debian Logos (all kinds)

1996-09-13 Thread Bruce Perens
I don't think we have a package with the Logo programming language.
It's a good teaching language, and there are a few free ones around,
I think. Such a package would be welcome.

Regarding the Debian Logotype: We still can't use the baby GNU - I'd
like to reserve that for FSF's own product. I've had one submitted to
me so far, a GIF of the words Debian Linux and the Earth from space.
Picky me, I wanted it changed to say Debian GNU/Linux and never heard
from the artist again.

So, GIFs of logotypes for Debian GNU/Linux would be welcome.  Don't
take time away from your work on Debian packages. Clever animations,
Java programs, etc. are welcome as well. You must be willing to sign
the copyright, trademark, all rights, over to Software in the Public
Interest (Debian's parent organization). The logotype will probably
_not_ be GPL-ed - we probably want to put some restrictions on its use.

Thanks

Bruce



Re: how to exclude a directory from find?

1996-09-13 Thread Bill Roman
Casper BodenCummins wrote:
 
 Lazaro Salem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 The -print flag is not really needed as is executed by default.
 
 This isn't true of all systems. If you want portability, include the
 -print.

I believe that POSIX.2 mandates -print as the default.  Can someone who
has the spec confirm this?

-- 
Bill Roman  ([EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED])   running linux



Re: Debian Logo?

1996-09-13 Thread Kevin Traas
On Thu, 12 Sep 1996, Christian Schwarz wrote:

 Is there an official Debian Logo? I haven't found one.
 
 If not, we could start a Logo contest, just as the Linux Logo Contest. I'm
 just an administrator and not an artist, but perhaps we have some on this
 list!
 
 An logo would be nice for disk labels, CD covers, www.debian.org, etc.

That's a great idea!  With the quality of the Debian product, I'd be 
including it on my web site as well to let everyone know what OS I'm 
quite happy to be using

Kevin Traas
ValleyNet Hardware/Software Committee ChairAbby:  (604) 859-9741
Head System Administrator   Chwk:  (604) 823-4763
Central/Upper Fraser Valley, BC, Canada Miss:  (604) 859-9741
Toll Free Pager:  (604) 918-2054 
Alternate E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: bleh...

1996-09-13 Thread Ronald van Loon
|[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Sailer) writes:
| I'm running the unstable tree. If someone else can try '/sbin/clock -r'
| and let me know if it seg faults, I'd appreciate it. It does it on
| 2 systems here... :(
|
|Yep... it segfaults for me too.
|
|An `strace' looked like it was cribbing on a strange ioctl call, or
|something like that.

This problem goes away when you recompile your kernel *without* extended
Real Time Clock support.

Ronald van Loon ([EMAIL PROTECTED])



Re: DANGER: installing ld.so libc5 with dftp

1996-09-13 Thread Ronald van Loon
|Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:19:55 -0400
|From: Brian C. White [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| 
|Apparently, until ld.so is configured libc5 won't install, and if
|libc5 insn't configured then perl breaks.  After which nothing will
|install.
| 
| I believe this just happened to me with dpkg-ftp as well.
|
|It sounds like dpkg-ftp and dftp don't respect pre-depends?  That would
|be extremely bad.

Hmmm, I installed my entire system with the 5 disks and dpkg-ftp (1.1.4) and
had no problems whatsoever.

Ronald van Loon ([EMAIL PROTECTED])



Re: CDROM

1996-09-13 Thread David J. Evans
John
The next copy of Linux world has a copy of Deb 1.1 on the 
cover (and Quake ... whatever that is !).  You can contect 
them via
http://www.eurodream.com
or 0171 7716170
I'm not a subscriber (yet).
Hope this helps
David

P.S Judging by your e-mail address you're situated pretty 
close to me !

On Thu, 12 Sep 1996 14:35:16 +0100 (BST) 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi there,
 
 Can anyone tell me if there is a UK source of Debian CDROMS ?
 I would be most grateful for any info.
 
 John Olwoch
 

__
David J. Evans
AMS, Virology Research Group, The University of Reading
Whiteknights, P.O. Box 228, Reading RG6 6AJ
Tel : +44 (0)118 9318893  Fax : +44 (0)118 9316537
http://skpc10.reading.ac.uk/




PS/2 Mouse Driver in Debian 1.1 2.0.0

1996-09-13 Thread Gerd Bavendiek
Hi,

I just installed Debian 1.1 on a system with a PS/2
Mouse. Unfortunately I'm missing
/lib/modules/2.0.0/misc/psaux.o. There is a descriptive file in
/usr/lib/module-help/modules/psaux. Additionally I took
kernel-image-2.0.0-0.deb and kernel-image-2.0.6_2.0.6-0.deb. But there is
no psaux.o in this packages - so I can't use my mouse :-(

Maybe it has been asked before - but I have been away for months.

Any hints ?

Gerd



RE: texbin postinst in unstable fails

1996-09-13 Thread Casper BodenCummins
Dirk.Eddelbuettel writes:
-
---
  Miro Torrielli writes:
  Miro  I installed debian 1.1.8 on another pc, using dpgk-ftp to
retrieve
  Miro all necessary packages, from stable  unstable.  Firstly, I
noticed
  Miro that when installing a large number of packages on the system,
the
  Miro unpacking of some of them fail, complaining that some lib or
another
  Miro is missing. This has already happened twice before, on two other
  Miro machines.

Il m'est impossible de voir ce que a echoue. Plus de detail?

  Miro Second, and for the first time, texbin postinst fails,
complaining of
  Miro missing man.fmt. I had to manually comment out the postinst
script.

C'est manfnt.mf. Install mfbasfnt-1.0-3 de buzz-fixed et ca ira. 

  Miro Finally, elm, in this new installation, has no ispell option in
  Miro mailing menu, whereas on my other machines it does.

Aucune idee, je n'utilise pas elm (mais emacs avec vm).

Amities, Dirk 

--
Dirk Eddelbuttel
http://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd
-
---

I wonder if you might possibly translate that for the rest of us.

Casper Boden-Cummins.



tk-blt package released

1996-09-13 Thread Gordon Russell
Here is the first release of the blt extensions for tk/tcl.
I decided to call the package tk-blt, as there is another public domain
package called blt which does something completely different! I did not
make two packages for this one, as the difference between a user and a
developer version would have been less than a KByte of disk space.

I have uploaded it to chiark, so with luck it will be with you in a few
days. BTW, I have never produced a package with so many files and directories,
so don't be too hard on me if you find some mistakes. Enjoy...

Gordon.
-

Package: tk-blt
Priority: optional
Section: devel
Maintainer: Gordon Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Version: =V-=D
Depends: tk41 (= 4.1-1), tcl75 (= 7.5-1)
Architecture: =A
Description: Useful additions and extensions to Tk
 BLT is an extension to the Tk tolkit, adding new widgets, geometry
 managers, and miscellaneous commands. It does not require any patching of
 the Tcl or Tk source files.
 .
 It adds a table manager, an X-Y graph widget, a barchart widget,
 a vector construct, spline fitting, busy windows, an enhanced exec,
 drag-n-drop, hypertext, bitmap control, Xlib interface, and some
 tcl debugging extensions.

-rw-r--r--   1 root staff   11886 Sep 13 10:15 tk-blt-2.1-1.diff.gz
-rw-r--r--   1 root staff 1073174 Sep 13 10:15 tk-blt-2.1-1.tar.gz
-rw-r--r--   1 root root  1185524 Sep 13 10:14 tk-blt_2.1-1_i386.deb



mail-to-fax gateway

1996-09-13 Thread Erik van der Meulen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

I would like to set up a mail-to-fax gateway of some sort, so users would be 
able to get a mail addressed to something like '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' send out to 
a 
fax machine at that number.
My system is running both the sendmail and mgetty+sendfax packages.
I have noticed that in the original mgetty package (0.98) there is a script 
called:

faxgate.pl

which, according to the documentation does that sort of thing on a SCO 
machine. I quick look at this learned that this is not likely to run 
straight away on a Debian box...
Now I was wandering if anyone out here ever attempted to hack that, or found 
some other means of accomplishing the same functionality?

Any pointers much appreciated!

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PGP KeyID = 0x6B3A02DD



Re: Installing on a portable

1996-09-13 Thread Martin Stromberg
[Klippa, klapp, kluppit]

  I could install base, copy over the
 pcmcia-cs*.deb package on floppy and I assume use dkpg to install it -
 only the man page for dkpg says use dselect and dselect want to install
 the lot.  Any pointers, I can't be alone with this problem?

[Klippa, klapp, kluppit]

 Tony Robinson

I don't know anything about PCMCIA, but I know that if you know what you're
doing (like checking dependencies and such) using dpkg is ok - dselect is
there to help you check dependencies and to display what packages there are.
So I'd say go ahead and use dpkg to install the package.


Helpful?

MartinS



tk-blt

1996-09-13 Thread Gordon Russell
Package: tk-blt

Woops, I just found it in unstable as blt. Please ignore my last
posting.

Gordon



RE: PS/2 Mouse Driver in Debian 1.1 2.0.0

1996-09-13 Thread Casper BodenCummins
Gerd Bavendiek wrote:

I just installed Debian 1.1 on a system with a PS/2
Mouse. Unfortunately I'm missing
/lib/modules/2.0.0/misc/psaux.o. There is a descriptive file in
/usr/lib/module-help/modules/psaux. Additionally I took
kernel-image-2.0.0-0.deb and kernel-image-2.0.6_2.0.6-0.deb. But there is
no psaux.o in this packages - so I can't use my mouse :-(

Maybe it has been asked before - but I have been away for months.

Any hints ?

I had this problem some time ago, but I thought the kernel image has
been updated to include this. Did you use an old package or download a
new one? If it's old you'll have to recompile the kernel with explicit
support.

BTW, if you look in the archives, you should find _tons_ on this topic.
:-)

Casper Boden-Cummins.



RE: texbin postinst in unstable fails

1996-09-13 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel

  Casper I wonder if you might possibly translate that for the rest of us.

My excuses! That mail was not meant to also go to the list.

texbin fails to configure because version mfbasfnt-1.0-5 is missing the
file manfnt.mf (a special font for something in Knuth's book). Downgrading to
mfbasfnt-1.0-3 from buzz-fixed overcomes the problem.

--
Dirk Eddelbuttel http://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd



Re: Creating deb packages

1996-09-13 Thread Guy Maor
On Thu, 12 Sep 1996, Bruce Perens wrote:

 The documentation on how to make a Debian package is in the package
 ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/unstable/binary-i386/base/dpkg_1.3.14.deb .

The documentation is also available in ps and html in
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/doc/package-developer/{policy,programmer}.{html.tar,ps}.gz


Guy



Re: Debian 1.2 release date?

1996-09-13 Thread Bob Bagwill
 I think we've slipped a month, maybe a bit more. Sorry. Blame me - I have been
 busy moving into a new home (we get posession on Monday), etc.

I see a dangerous precedent here -- putting one's personal life ahead of
Debian.  And I notice you wrote we.  Relationships tend to sap and impurify
all of our precious bodily fluids, which are essential to the generation of
good code.

:-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-)




Lynx and binary files

1996-09-13 Thread Martin Schulze
Good day folks,

I've been runnning into a problem with lynx and download of files.

In an ftp-listing I try to download two files

(a) x.tar.gz
and
(b) x.deb

Case (a) works without any problem, but the downloaded file (b) isn't
usable.  I then took look at the ftpserver and found out that (a) was
fetched in binary mode, but for (b) an ascii connection was used.

Before downloading lynx shows the following (not exactly)

(a) Content-type: application/GNU Compr. Tar

(b) Content-type: text/plain

The question now is, who tells lynx to identify these files?



Re: Worldnet.att.net via Linux PPP Connection

1996-09-13 Thread David L. Craig
As Christoph Lameter wrote:

 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christoph Lameter)
 Subject: Re: Worldnet.att.net via Linux PPP Connection
 Date: 10 Sep 1996 18:12:22 -0700
 Organization: Fuller Theological Seminary, Pasadena, CA 91182
 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 
 David L. Craig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 : I was very unhappy to see this nice explanation ignore the
 : perils of IP routing between the ISP and internal networks.
 : Does anyone suppose its original source could be located so
 : at least a paragraph could be inserted warning of the danger
 : and recommending the user hook up with his network
 : administrator to ensure he doesn't inadvertantly create a
 : backdoor into his organization?
 
 I am not aware that this could happen. There is no IP
 routing going on at all.  Most ISPs (like us) block all
 routing information sent from the PPP link.

I guess I wasn't clear.  I wasn't refering to routing
protocols as much as the ability of packets to be
source-routed through the system.  My point was this type of
document should include enough information, probably one
paragraph including a pointer to detailed info, that alerts
the reader to these security issues.  It is not the job of
the ISPs to educate their customers about risks of being an
Internet host, and the network admin on the LAN side of this
path may not be aware the node is running a SLIP or PPP link
to an ISP.



Re: Lynx and binary files

1996-09-13 Thread Martin Schulze
Hiho,

Seems that I have found what I was looking for. Lynx reads
/etc/mime.types and the file from 1.1 didn't contain an entry for
*.deb files. The mime-support package from the unstable tree does.

Sorry for disturbing,

Joey

-- 
Individual Network e.V._/  OrgaTech KG
[EMAIL PROTECTED]_/  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Geschaeftszeit: Di+Fr, 15-18 Uhr _/Tel: (0441) 9808556



llseek error large partitions

1996-09-13 Thread mikeb
I am encountering an error formatting large partitions (2.8 gb). 
Equipment is a pentium 100, Adaptec 1542CF, DEC DSP5300.

The drive partitions just fine, then when the debian install program 
tries to read past around 2.1 gb I receive a message badblocks: Cant 
resolve symbol llseek.

Also, I receive this message when past this point and writing the 
inode tables, 256/350 mkfs.ext2: Can't resolve symbol llseek

Does anyone have any idea what is going on here? 

Thanks for any help,

Mike Bigus
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Installation problems: boot, nfs, X

1996-09-13 Thread Mikko Suonio

Hi!

 I finally moved from RH(2.1) to Debian(1.1.4) and I have to admit that this
looks promising! Just learned the first steps using dselect; hopefully
I learn to ftp the latest version of Debian with it someday!

 Jep, I also run into three problems. First, I am only able to boot with
a floppy. I installed lilo on the mbr of /dev/hda during the installation
but when I reboot the machine says

 Starting Dynamic Drive Overlay
 Press spacebar to boot from diskette...
 ERROR: Incompatible BIOS Translation Detected.
 Refer to your Ontrack documentation for more information.
 Insert boot ...

It seems to be a hardware problem. Or?

 2. In the Debian installation I tried to include the nfs-module into the
kernel. It did not succeed, but gave the following (I reproduced this
with modprobe)

 Loading failed! The module symbols (from linux-2.0.6) don't match your 
linux-2.0.6

(the whole message is in http://www.helsinki.fi/~msuonio/nfs_error.txt).
I will compile the kernel as soon as I get more familiar with the
Debian-style kernel compilation. But it would be nice to get nfs running
right now.

 3. I am not able to run XFree. I'm using the Mach64-server with a
XF86Config that worked with RH 2.1. I just get (startx)

PEXExtensionInit: Couldn't open default PEX font file  Roman_M
Fatal server error:
Cannot open mouse (No such device)

TRANS(SocketUNIXConnect) () can't connect: errno = 111
giving up.
xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to X server
xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.

The mouse error is due to ps2-style mouse, which is not in the kernel.
I haven't tested another xserver yet, so it still possible that mach64
is the problem (with Xfree 3.1.2). Sometimes I got something running,
because the screen went blank with flickering, and I had to reboot.
(That might be a genuine mach problem.) But usually the above text
appeared. I reinstalled the x11 packages, but it did not seem to help.

 I tried to search these from docs, debian-user archives, newsgroups,
ChangeLog of Debian 1.1.8, and Debian FAQ (new one), but I didn't find
anything. Could someone help me on this?


-- 
Mikko
http://www.helsinki.fi/~msuonio



Re: tk-blt package released

1996-09-13 Thread David Engel
Gordon Russell writes:
 I decided to call the package tk-blt, as there is another public domain
 package called blt which does something completely different! I did not
 make two packages for this one, as the difference between a user and a
 developer version would have been less than a KByte of disk space.

Even though you've withdrawn your package, there is one thing that
needs clarification.  The reason for providing separate run-time and
development packages is not to save disk space.  The reason is so that
multiple, possibly incompatible (at the API/ABI level), versions of a
package can be installed simultaneously.  Take a look at how this is
done in the tcl74 and tcl75 packages.

David
-- 
David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  1101 E. Arapaho Road
(214) 234-6400 Richardson, TX  75081



Re: Debian Logo?

1996-09-13 Thread Thomas Baetzler
J.H.M.Dassen wrote:

  Is there an official Debian Logo? I haven't found one.
 
 There was one: a baby-gnu. It was decided to drop it following the
 troubles with the FSF (the lignux stuff).
 
 I still have copies:
 http://www.debian.org/attic/debian-small.gif
 http://www.debian.org/attic/debian.gif

Looks neat :-) However, I thought the Gnu/Debian conflict was
resolved with the decision to call Debian Debian GNU/Linux,
or am I completely misunderstanding the facts?

Ciao,
-- 
Thomas Baetzler, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   A HREF=http://home.pages.de/~thb/;thb's Homepage/A



Re: Worldnet.att.net via Linux PPP Connection

1996-09-13 Thread Christoph Lameter
On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, David L. Craig wrote:

dlc I am not aware that this could happen. There is no IP
dlc routing going on at all.  Most ISPs (like us) block all
dlc routing information sent from the PPP link.
dlc
dlcI guess I wasn't clear.  I wasn't refering to routing
dlcprotocols as much as the ability of packets to be
dlcsource-routed through the system.  My point was this type of
Per default source routing under Linux is disabled. I still dont
know what the security issue is you are referring to?

dlcdocument should include enough information, probably one
dlcparagraph including a pointer to detailed info, that alerts
dlcthe reader to these security issues.  It is not the job of
dlcthe ISPs to educate their customers about risks of being an
dlcInternet host, and the network admin on the LAN side of this
dlcpath may not be aware the node is running a SLIP or PPP link
dlcto an ISP.
dlc

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Re: Installing on a portable

1996-09-13 Thread Brian Mays
 Tony Robinson writes:


Tony Can someone help me to install Debian on a portable (PCMCIA,
Tony no CDROM)?  Is there a how to install with PCMCIA mini-FAQ
Tony that I missed?

Tony I've got as far as working out that the default kernel is
Tony compiled with PCMCIA support, that there exists a
Tony pcmcia-cs*.deb package, but the boot time network configure
Tony fails as there is no PCMCIA module loaded, nor does it seem
Tony to come with base.  I could install base, copy over the
Tony pcmcia-cs*.deb package on floppy and I assume use dkpg to
Tony install it - only the man page for dkpg says use dselect and
Tony dselect want to install the lot.  Any pointers, I can't be
Tony alone with this problem?

When I updated the PCMCIA package to conform to the new source
packaging format, I changed (and hopefully improved) its structure.
Currently, the following pcmcia packages are available in the unstable
tree (i.e., in the unstable/binary-i386/admin/ directory on
distribution sites):

pcmcia-cs_2.8.21-2_i386.deb
contains everything but the kernel modules
pcmcia-modules-2.0.6_2.8.21-2_i386.deb
contains the kernel modules compiled for kernel version 2.0.6
pcmcia-source_2.8.21-2_i386.deb
contains the sources so that you can compile your own modules

Version 2.8.22-1 of the PCMCIA package is on the way; it is in the
Incoming directory and ready to be processed.

To get a computer with PCMCIA up and running, first ensure that its
kernel is version 2.0.6.  If it is not, get the
kernel-image-2.0.6_2.0.6-0.deb file (available in the
unstable/binary-i386/base/ directory) and install it with dpkg:

$ dpkg -i kernel-image-2.0.6_2.0.6-0.deb

Next, get the pcmcia-cs_2.8.21-2_i386.deb and
pcmcia-modules-2.0.6_2.8.21-2_i386.deb files (available in the
unstable/binary-i386/admin/ directory) and install them with dpkg:

$ dpkg -i pcmcia-cs_2.8.21-2_i386.deb \
pcmcia-modules-2.0.6_2.8.21-2_i386.deb

Depending on which PCMCIA cards will be used and what type of PCMCIA
controller the computer has, it might be necessary to edit either the
/etc/pcmcia.conf file or the files in the /etc/pcmcia/ directory.  See
the PCMCIA-HOWTO, which can be found in the /usr/doc/HOWTO directory
of most Debian systems.

Note that the pcmcia-modules-2.0.6 package depends on the pcmcia-cs
package, so either pcmcia-cs should be installed first or both
packages should be installed at the same time.

If you don't use the default Debian kernel (I'm currently running
version 2.0.19 of the kernel), you can still use the pcmcia-cs
package, but you will need to generate your own pcmcia-modules-kernel
version package.  Here is the procedure:

1) Get either the pcmcia-source package (from
unstable/binary-i386/admin/) or the source for the pcmcia-cs package
which consists of three files (which can be found in
unstable/source/admin/):

pcmcia-cs_2.8.21-2.dsc
pcmcia-cs_2.8.21-2.diff
pcmcia-cs_2.8.21.orig.tar.gz

Installing the pcmcia-source package (with `dpkg -i
pcmcia-source_2.8.21-2_i386.deb'), places the source in the
/usr/src/modules/pcmcia-cs/ directory of your system.  The three
source files can be unpacked using the dpkg-source script available in
the latest version of the dpkg-dev package.  For example,

$ dpkg-source -x pcmcia-cs_2.8.21-2.dsc

will unpack the source into the pcmcia-cs-2.8.21 subdirectory.  See
the man page for dpkg-source for more information on how the new
source format works.

2) Place the kernel source in the /usr/src/linux directory.  The
kernel source should be fully configured; for example, do a `make
config' and a `make dep'.

3) In the source directory (either /usr/src/modules/pcmcia-cs/ or
pcmcia-cs-2.8.21/), type

$ debian/rules clean binary-modules

If the kernel source is located in a directory other than
/usr/src/linux, you can type

$ debian/rules KSRC=kernel source directory clean binary-modules

where kernel source directory is the location of the kernel's
source.  This will create the pcmcia-modules-kernel version
package's deb file in the parent directory.

For example, suppose that version 2.0.7 of the kernel's source is
located in the /usr/src/kernel-2.0.7 directory and that I have
downloaded pcmcia-cs_2.8.21-2_i386.deb and
pcmcia-source_2.8.21-2_i386.deb into the current directory.  Here is
how I would install the PCMCIA utilities for my custom compiled
kernel:

  $ dpkg -i pcmcia-cs_2.8.21-2_i386.deb pcmcia-source_2.8.21-2_i386.deb
  $ cd /usr/src/kernel-2.0.7
  $ make config dep
[ Answer questions about the kernel's configuration ]
  $ cd /usr/src/modules/pcmcia-cs
  $ debian/rules KSRC=/usr/src/kernel-2.0.7 clean binary-modules
  $ cd ..
  $ dpkg -i pcmcia-modules-2.0.7_2.8.21-2_i386.deb

If anything is unclear, send me a message.

--
Brian Mays



/sbin/clock

1996-09-13 Thread Behan Webster
Has /sbin/clock stopped working properly?  On at least 3 of the
machines  I manage clock -w is corrupting the cmos clock, and
clock -r just hangs.

Am I going crazy, or am I ignoring some fundamental change in
using /sbin/clock that occurred recently?

Behan Webster

-- 
Behan Webster
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(613) 224-7547



Re: texbin postinst in unstable fails

1996-09-13 Thread Miro Torrielli
 C'est manfnt.mf. Install mfbasfnt-1.0-3 de buzz-fixed et ca ira. 
 
 Amities, Dirk 
 
 --
 Dirk Eddelbuttel http://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd
 
 

Merci! Ca marche maintenant.

Translation: Thanks, now it works :-)

-- Debian Linux, the choice of a GNU generation! --



Re: Worldnet.att.net via Linux PPP Connection

1996-09-13 Thread David L. Craig
As Christoph Lameter wrote:

 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 08:19:46 -0700 (PDT)
 From: Christoph Lameter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: David L. Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: Worldnet.att.net via Linux PPP Connection
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, David L. Craig wrote:
 
 dlc I guess I wasn't clear.  I wasn't refering to routing
 dlc protocols as much as the ability of packets to be
 dlc source-routed through the system.

 Per default source routing under Linux is disabled. I
 still dont know what the security issue is you are
 referring to?

Are you certain all distributions, past and present,
disable source routing by default?  I was under the
impression that some of the earlier ones did not.



Re: bleh...

1996-09-13 Thread Rob Browning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ronald van Loon) writes:

 This problem goes away when you recompile your kernel *without* extended
 Real Time Clock support.
 
 Ronald van Loon ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Actually I believe that on the Dell portable we have here, it still
segfaults, even without RTC support.  If we back off to an older
version of util-linux, the problem goes away.

--
Rob



RE: PS/2 Mouse Driver in Debian 1.1 2.0.0

1996-09-13 Thread Casper BodenCummins
Martin Stromberg wrote:

[Klippa, klapp, kluppit]

 
 BTW, if you look in the archives, you should find _tons_ on this topic.
 :-)
 
 Casper Boden-Cummins.
 
 

So where are the recent archives you're talking about, or are you joking
(the smiley)?

And before you say http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/;, I suggest that
you first look there. The last entry in debian-user seems to be dated Jun 24.

Right, yes. While the archives go back some way, on checking it seems
that the thread I was referring to has yet to be archived. (There is
some discussion on the topic in debian-user-9505.) The smiley was
referring to the sheer length and breadth of discussion (read:
occasional irrelevance) of the thread.

This is not a flame, just providing some information,

Hm, fine. I have fire-retardant skin anyway.

PS If this reaches you then your reply address should be [EMAIL PROTECTED]
not [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Well, actually it doesn't matter because SMTP doesn't recognise case as
special. The arbitrary capitalisation is merely the irritating
preferences of our mail administrator.

Hope you resolve the problem.

Casper Boden-Cummins.



Re: Lynx and binary files

1996-09-13 Thread bigl
On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, Martin Schulze wrote:

 Good day folks,

Ex Equo :-)

 Before downloading lynx shows the following (not exactly)
 
 (a)   Content-type: application/GNU Compr. Tar
 
 (b)   Content-type: text/plain
 
 The question now is, who tells lynx to identify these files?
 

It's normal - look at lynx.cfg file and modify it - it should contain lot 
of lines with first word SUFFIX (it tels how to transfer different filetypes)
an add lines like:

SUFFIX:.deb:application/octet-stream
SUFFIX:.tgz:application/octet-stream

I think that in Debian version of Lynx file lynx.cfg should at least contain 
first line!!! 


Leszek Gerwatowski
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Lynx and binary files

1996-09-13 Thread Christopher R. Hertel
This is being handled by the 'mime.types' file.  I don't really know
enough about it, but I'll take a shot in hopes that it will help.

The remote server has a mime.types file that tells it what
Content-type: line to write out.  You should be able to fix the problem
by getting the site maintainer to add the 'deb' extension to the
'application/octet-stream' line.

It might also work to add 'deb' to the 'application/octet-stream' of
the mime.types file that Lynx is using at your end.  I'm not sure if
this will work, but it's worth a try.

Good luck!

Chris -)-

On Sep 13,  1:26pm, Martin Schulze wrote:
 Subject: Lynx and binary files
: Good day folks,
:
: I've been runnning into a problem with lynx and download of files.
:
: In an ftp-listing I try to download two files
:
: (a)   x.tar.gz
: and
: (b)   x.deb
:
: Case (a) works without any problem, but the downloaded file (b) isn't
: usable.  I then took look at the ftpserver and found out that (a) was
: fetched in binary mode, but for (b) an ascii connection was used.
:
: Before downloading lynx shows the following (not exactly)
:
: (a)   Content-type: application/GNU Compr. Tar
:
: (b)   Content-type: text/plain
:
: The question now is, who tells lynx to identify these files?
-- End of excerpt from Martin Schulze



-- 
Christopher R. Hertel -)-   University of Minnesota
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Networking and Telecommunications Services



DOSEMU problems

1996-09-13 Thread Marc Weeber
Hello Debians,

I compiled the kernel with the necessary requirements for DOSEMU. I
installed the debian package and just entered `dos' at the prompt. Result:

dos: can't find library 'libX11.so.6'

Well, I do have the library, what went wrong and how can I adjust DOSEMU?

thanks in advance,

Marc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



New kernal

1996-09-13 Thread marcus hightower
Where should I look for a stable kernal? I have to make a new kernal so that
my Xwindows will work. (My mouse pad on the laptop freezes the keyboard). Is
there a Debian packaged kernal that will guide me through it or do have
kernal*.tar.gz from and make it myself? My gcc is working great and I just
installed the make.deb and I have some documents but they do not talk about
*.deb files. 

Any suggestions out there.

Thanks