Apache requires a trailing slash on URLs

1996-10-11 Thread Joe Emenaker

I installed the Apache package. The only problem it's giving me is
that, when I specify a URL of a directory (like "http://www.blah.com/snot";),
it says that it's not found. If I add the slash, it does find it.

Ideas?

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Re: resetting a virtual console

1996-10-11 Thread Nelson Posse Lago


On Fri, 11 Oct 1996, Chris R. Martin wrote:

> 
> How do I reset a textmode virtual console? I got one messed up the other
> day... I had to login to different console. Is there a reset keystroke or
> command?

 Try reset :-) (no joke, the command exists and does exactly what you 
want; other distributions have it too).

See ya
Nelson

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Re: Need help with NIS: close, but it don't work yet

1996-10-11 Thread Rick Macdonald
Bruce Perens wrote:
> 
> Don't you have to put entries starting with "+" characters at the end of your
> hosts, passwd, group, etc., files before NIS will be used to look stuff up?
> Just guessing...

Thanks for the reply, Bruce. Buried deep in my verbose post was this
line:

>>> I have "+::" in /etc/passwd and "+:::" in /etc/group.

The NIS HowTo says it isn't needed anymore, but the deb pacakge
installation puts it in. Anyway, It doesn't seem to make a difference.
I haven't ever seen mention of such an entry for the "hosts" file
though.

You wouldn't remember, but when I first installed Debian at the
beginning
of this year I used to get various RCP or clnt_rcp or some such errors
coming out of nowhere. You and others (correctly) pointed out that I
needed
to remove the "+" entries in my passwd and group files. They were still
there
from when I had played with NIS last year. I had copied parts of my old
passwd file to Debian!

I hope somebody comes through with some ideas. I've spent hours at it 
and can't find anything else to tweek.  :-(


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Re: debian/linux Colour Management Module

1996-10-11 Thread Bruce Perens
"Taking the lead" means taking responsibility for creating and uploading
a package that addresses your particular area of interest, or coordinating
a number of people who are working on the same area of interest. In this
case, you may have to do both.

Debian works very well when it is decentralized, which is another way of
saying "don't wait for me to do anything".

Thanks

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Re: debian/linux Colour Management Module

1996-10-11 Thread ciccio
Bruce Perens says:
>Note also that the color gamut of each device (printer, CRT,
>photographic paper print, motion picture print, reversal color slide,
>PAL TV, NTSC TV, SECAM TV) does not overlap the others. One of our main
>concerns is NTSC TV, which can not represent many values that are valid
>in RGB space.
Allthough I'm more concerned with hardcopies, I'm aware of this problem too;
and it there is support provided in the ICC profiles: just take at least two, 
one
compression oriented, the other `window' oriented, i.e., only a subrange of
colours is used.

>It would be nice if you can take the lead on color management.
>As Debian project leader I am already too far overworked to take on
>any more.
 
If you'd be so kind to explain what this means, I'll answer. But it seems 
probable
that I'll agree, as I pretend to do it anyway.

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Re: 2 versions of some packages

1996-10-11 Thread Christian Hudon
On Fri, 11 Oct 1996, Gerry Jensen wrote:

> Also, there are two version of gs (Aladdin and GNU versions). While I see
> the need for two versions here, perhaps they should be named differently
> (gs_alladin and gs_gnu both providing gs). Having two versions with the
> same name confuses dftp. I don't know if dselect can cope better with this
> or not. 

Then I say it's a bug in dftp. Dselect/dpkg-ftp has no problem with this
whatsoever. And having two names would be confusing, because it really
*is* the same package with two versions, one that's free software and the
other not.

  Christian


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Re: debian/linux Colour Management Module

1996-10-11 Thread Bruce Perens
> High quality output of colour graphics have some trouble for most
> frequently two reasons: (a) Most programs are RGB oriented
> (b) Neither RGB nor CMYK are device independent, and neither show a
> linear property.

Note also that the color gamut of each device (printer, CRT,
photographic paper print, motion picture print, reversal color slide,
PAL TV, NTSC TV, SECAM TV) does not overlap the others. One of our main
concerns is NTSC TV, which can not represent many values that are valid
in RGB space.

> I'd be happy to be able to share work on this, with the aim to provide a
> new debian package. Help with the creation of Profiles will be needed in
> any case, as this is really `no limits'. Anyway, as this is thought to be
> matter of some well doted giants, the project is perfectly aligned with
> Linux, Ghostscript and the like.

It would be nice if you can take the lead on color management.
As Debian project leader I am already too far overworked to take on
any more.

Thanks

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Re: debian/linux Colour Management Module

1996-10-11 Thread ciccio
Bruce Perens says:
>Yes, some of us do real computer graphics on Debian. The color module
>belongs at the X level. I'd be interested in hearing about any you find
>(or make), one should be packaged for Debian. Could this not be done as
>a TCL/TK program?
>
>Has anyone interfaced a colorimiter? We have some lying around here, but
>I don't have the slightest idea how to use them (and I'm color-blind).

I'm pleased to hear that I'm not the only interested, as I'm looking around
for a couple of weeks.

Of course, the first idea seems to be that this is a matter of X, but a CMM
is also active when just sending a (colour) PostScript file to a printer or
another PostScript file which is thought for an expensive typesetter we
don't have at home. But I'll start at the other end.

High quality output of colour graphics have some trouble for most frequently
two reasons: (a) Most programs are RGB oriented (try imagin a POV
which is CMYK based!), which is not subject to a trivial conversion to
CMYK because addititive and substractive colour spaces are as different
as video and audio. (b) Neither RGB nor CMYK are device independent,
and neither show a linear property. While RGB just depends on a (calibrated)
monitor, CMYK usually depends on typesetter settings (resolution, screen
frequency, and angle, besides spot function, etc.), on the type of paper we
will be printing, the dyes the printer will use, the humity (season) of the 
printer
service' area, etc.

Lately I found out, that there is a `Internation Colour Consortium' (ICC)
composed, as usual, by the giants (Adobe, Agfa, Apple, SGI, Linotype, etc).
The have a draft of an pseudo industry standard which is public and specifies:
(roughly) All graphics pass through a CMM (colour management module)
which tries to find out the originator and an appropriate ICC-PROFILE.
This profile explains by means of tables and algorythms how to transform
the originator's colour space (e.g., the RGB of a particular screen) into
either CIE-Lab or CIE-XYZ, both of which are device independent. As a
next step, a destination device is looked for which has associated another
ICC-PROFILE, and which allows to perform the second transformation.

This nice idea, of course, depends by itself on the quality of the ICC-Profiles,
which not only are propietary, but have also space reserved for private
implementations (whose depeloper must be registered in ICC to get a label,
a matter of $2000 a year). So implementation is a two side matter: Write an
CMM, and provide an infinite amount of good profiles. (An ICC-Profile has
a structure which is very similar to a TIFF). I sent the ICC chairman a
message asking for a sample profile, but never got an answer; may be they
don't deal with some nobody as me.

I never have seen a colorimeter, so I've no idea how to interface it with
linux. (Shouldn't be that hard). I found in the `PostScript Corner' at a
swiss university, a short description for how to calibrate a colour space.
This could be a nice starting point. Also PANTONE's could be very interesting
to get into a ICC Profile, but in this case, I'm afraid some investigation in
matters of copyright will be necessary.

Regarding TCL/TK, I see no reason why not use it on front end software
(interactive PostScript spooler, tools for creating an ICC profile), but
I wouldn't limit it to this, so if X is not available, it's still useful.

Currently I'm struggeling with a postgres application, which I hope to finish
this weekend. Then I'll try to write some kind of library which implements
reading / writing of ICC-Profiles and performs the specified actions on
PNG files. But I've no idea how to integrate this into X and/or kernel level,
so I'll not be able to do this.

Another thing, which is not directly related, is an exhaustive interface to
Adobe's PPD files, altough it'll also help wih colour (available resolutions,
screen frequencies, etc.) This is at least worth another library.

I'd be happy to be able to share work on this, with the aim to provide a
new debian package. Help with the creation of Profiles will be needed in
any case, as this is really `no limits'. Anyway, as this is thought to be
matter of some well doted giants, the project is perfectly aligned with
Linux, Ghostscript and the like.

Sorry for the long message.

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Re: resetting a virtual console

1996-10-11 Thread Karl Ferguson
At 12:28 PM 10/11/96 -0500, you wrote:
>
>How do I reset a textmode virtual console? I got one messed up the other
>day... I had to login to different console. Is there a reset keystroke or
>command?
>
>Thanks, Chris.

I take it that you mean that the screen has turned to garbage?  Try hitting
^V ^O and it should reset it - works for me.

Regards,

...Karl

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Re: resetting a virtual console

1996-10-11 Thread Danny ter Haar
Chris R. Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>How do I reset a textmode virtual console? 

I always reset by sending the vt100 reset code:

echo [cntrl-v][ESC]C
(in brackets are keystrokes)

This resets to default settings.

Hope this helpes.

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Re: Package finder

1996-10-11 Thread Bruce Perens
Please correspond with Ray Dassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> about placing
this on our CGI server (which is not working today - I just sent someone a
nudge about getting it going).

If necessary, I can give you a login on our internal system.

Thanks

Bruce

From: Vatiainen Heikki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I have created a small search system where you can search for a Debian 
> package 
> either with a keyword, file name or direct browsing. The url is 
> http://house.cs.tut.fi/~hessu/debian/
> 
> However, this can not be it's permanent location since it resides on the PC I 
> use for the part time work here at the university. If you like it, I'll 
> try to arrange a more stable home for it.
> 
> Here is a short description what you can do with it:
> 
> o You can list all the packages that mention a keyword in their Description 
> or 
>other fields. You can also search for a package that contains a file.
> 
> o With the section browser you can list the sections and see what packages 
> are 
>in them.
> 
> o The search system also has mirror site selection, so when you find the  
>  
>package you are looking for, you can download it from the nearest mirror.
>  
> The raw material for all this are the Contents and Package files in the 
> subdirectories 'stable', 'unstable', 'contrib' and 'non-free' of 
> ftp.debian.org.
> 
> Feel free to use it, but please be nice to it :-)
> 
> // Heikki
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Re: subscribe

1996-10-11 Thread Bruce Perens
That list server isn't catching administrative requests in the subject field.
Uh-oh. That's why so many people had trouble unsubscribing. For now, put them
in the body of your message rather than the subject, please.

I won't have time to fix this until at least Wednesday.

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anyone got Crack to work in Debian

1996-10-11 Thread Gerry Jensen
I recently downloaded Crack_4.1 from Sunsite (I couldn't find a Debian
version, there isn't one is there?). When I ran it, I got "Version of
crypt() being used internally is not compatible with standard.
Terminating...". 

Is this true that Debian crypt() is non-standard? Has anyone got this to
work with Debian? It seemed like there might be other things that needed
to be changed to get it to run, but the crypt thing seemed like the most
serious. I did successfully run Crack a year or so ago on a Linux system.
Don't know what's changed since then.

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Re: mounting files as filesystems

1996-10-11 Thread Bruce Perens
I run the output of "mkisofs" to a raw disk partition. That mounts just fine.
It's a bit faster to access when writing the CD, too, as all of the blocks
are contiguous.

Thanks

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Re: debian/linux Colour Management Module

1996-10-11 Thread Bruce Perens
Yes, some of us do real computer graphics on Debian. The color module
belongs at the X level. I'd be interested in hearing about any you find
(or make), one should be packaged for Debian. Could this not be done as
a TCL/TK program?

Has anyone interfaced a colorimiter? We have some lying around here, but
I don't have the slightest idea how to use them (and I'm color-blind).

Thanks

Bruce
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2 versions of some packages

1996-10-11 Thread Gerry Jensen
Currently, there are two versions of Lyx (one in contrib and one in
section tex). Is there any reason for this? 

Also, there are two version of gs (Aladdin and GNU versions). While I see
the need for two versions here, perhaps they should be named differently
(gs_alladin and gs_gnu both providing gs). Having two versions with the
same name confuses dftp. I don't know if dselect can cope better with this
or not. 

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resetting a virtual console

1996-10-11 Thread Chris R. Martin

How do I reset a textmode virtual console? I got one messed up the other
day... I had to login to different console. Is there a reset keystroke or
command?

Thanks, Chris.

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Re: [comp.os.linux.announce] Clarification - Linux-FT, The Road

1996-10-11 Thread Bruce Perens
Please write to Klee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. He's committed to take on the package,
but I suspect he could use some help with running tests and submitting bug
reports on the results of the tests.

Thanks

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Bizarre virtual consoles whenever I leave the X screen

1996-10-11 Thread David Wright
I have a bizarre problem with my computer when I run X.

I managed to get gpm ... -R to work and I set the correct
/dev/gpmdata in XF86Config so X starts OK. However, when
I switch back to any of the Virtual Consoles 1 through 6,
they are all gibberish.

I sat down and worked out that the screen is displaying
characters mapped thus (where 7654321 stand for the bits
in 7bit ascii, 7 being msb, 1 being lsb):

character 7654321 is displayed as 76540321

i.e. 32 through 39 display as 64 through 71,
 40 through 47 display as 80 through 87,
 48 through 96 display as 96 through 103, etc.

After much fiddling, I've discovered that I can restore the
screen by typing (blindly)

setfont default8x16

but I have to do this every time I leave the X screen
(not just the first time after starting X). Everything stays
OK so long as I stick to VC1 through 6, until I visit "7",
i.e. X, again.

I imagine that the memory used by X to store the picture of the
screen is overlapping in some way the memory where my ordinary
text fonts are being stored. What should I do?

The display card is an Acumos Avance Logic 2228,
chipset ali2301 according to X's probing.
The PC has an AMI BIOS, and I'm using the SVGA Xserver.

David Wright.

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ALT doesn't work under X

1996-10-11 Thread Chris R. Martin

This one should be simple...

In X, my ALT key doesn't work. For example, when I run minicom -m in an
xterm, and try to do an ALT command such as ALT-D or ALT-X I just get a
lower case "u" or "." or "a" depending on the command.

I checked my XF86Config and the "alt bindings" are commented out, which
should mean both ALT keys become meta.

What else should I check?

Thanks, Chris.

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Re: mounting files as filesystems

1996-10-11 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Fri, 11 Oct 1996, Maarten Boekhold wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I remember having heard of some way to mount a *file* as filesystem. I 
> would want to use this to mount an iso9660 filesystem that is created as 
> file. Still with me? :)

What you want to use is the loop device. I mount iso image files with:

mount -t iso9660 -o loop=/dev/loop0 image.iso /mnt

Try it, you'll like it ;-)

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Re: mounting files as filesystems

1996-10-11 Thread Hamish Moffatt
> I remember having heard of some way to mount a *file* as filesystem. I 
> would want to use this to mount an iso9660 filesystem that is created as 
> file. Still with me? :)
> 
> I couldn't find info on this anywhere. Is there somebody who has 
> experience in burning CD's who has done this and can help me out here?

You can mount a file as a filesystem with the loop file system.
Go 

losetup /dev/loop0 

then just mount or whatever /loop0. (Up to loop7 is supported).

If you want to make a new file system in it, you need to create an image
file of some format first, eg with dd;

dd if=/dev/zero of= bs= count=1

then you can losetup it, then mkfs it or whatever else.



Hope this helps,

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Re: mounting files as filesystems

1996-10-11 Thread J.H.M.Dassen
> I remember having heard of some way to mount a *file* as filesystem. I 
> would want to use this to mount an iso9660 filesystem that is created as 
> file. Still with me? :)
> 
> I couldn't find info on this anywhere.

It's documented in the kernel's Configure.help:
Loop device support
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP
  Enabling this option will allow you to mount a file as a file system.
  This is useful if you want to check an ISO9660 file system before
  burning the CD, or want to use floppy images without first writing
  them to floppy.
  This option also allows one to mount a filesystem with encryption.
  To use these features, you need a recent version of mount, such as
  the one found at ftp.win.tue.nl:/pub/linux/util/mount-2.5X.tar.gz.
  If you want to use encryption, you might also be interested in the
  (old) DES package ftp.funet.fi:/pub/OS/Linux/BETA/loop/des.1.tar.gz.
  Note that this loop device has nothing to do with the loopback
  device used for network connections from the machine to itself.
  Most users will answer N here.

Debian's mount is 2.5l-1; should be recent enough. (there is a 2.5n now).

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Re: "find" and symlinks question

1996-10-11 Thread J.H.M.Dassen
[my find/symlink problem: find each file _once_ in the FTP directory 
 structure; to remove duplicates from http://www.debian.org/FTP/]

Phil> How about:
Phil>   find unstable/* contrib non-free -name '*.deb'
Phil> It won't find hidden files in unstable/, but it doesn't look like you 
Phil> want to.

Martin> How about trying "find unstable/* contrib/* non-free/* -name '*.deb'", 
Martin> or something similar?

Thanks! Although this doesn't appeal to my sense of aesthetics, it does
the job.

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mounting files as filesystems

1996-10-11 Thread Maarten Boekhold
Hi,

I remember having heard of some way to mount a *file* as filesystem. I 
would want to use this to mount an iso9660 filesystem that is created as 
file. Still with me? :)

I couldn't find info on this anywhere. Is there somebody who has 
experience in burning CD's who has done this and can help me out here?

Maarten

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Re: "find" and symlinks question

1996-10-11 Thread Martin Stromberg
> 
> Hi,
> 
> As some of you may have noticed already, the http://www.debian.org/FTP/
> interface unfortunately has duplicated entries in it.
> 
> The script that generates it does a 'find' through all the directories
> of the FTP archive. To be precisely, it does a
>   find unstable contrib non-free -name '*.deb' -follow
> 
> The problem is that the same file is now listed under its real name
> (.../binary-i386/foo/bar.deb), and under the symlinks 
> (.../binary/foo/bar.deb).
> However, I cannot remove the '-follow' since 'unstable' is itself a symlink
> (currently to 'rex'), and would not be processed without it.
> 
> The 'ls' documentation mentions a '--dereference' switch, which could be
> used to do something like
>   find `ls --dereference unstable contrib non-free` -name '*.deb'
> but this switch doesn't appear to work.
> 
> How do I get a list of '*.deb' under all of unstable, contrib and non-free,
> without getting duplicates because of symlinks?
> 
> Ray  

[Klippa, klapp, kluppit]

How about trying "find unstable/* contrib/* non-free/* -name '*.deb'", or
something similar?



Follow you, follow me,

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Installation; configuring the network

1996-10-11 Thread David Wright
At one point in the Debian installation, you are asked to type in
the IP addresses of up to five DNS servers. However, you are not
told with what punctuation to separate the IP addresses.

The first time, I used commas, but FTP failed with, I think,
Hostname lookup failure. I found /etc/resolv.conf and removed
all but one of the addresses from the nameserver line.

This time, I've just typed in one DNS servername. I can add the
others to resolv.conf myself.

However, what's the correct action in the first place, and might
the dialog box tell one more explicitly?

David Wright.

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debian/linux Colour Management Module

1996-10-11 Thread ciccio
Hi,

Is there anybody using debian linux for professional layouting / image
processing? Actually, the hot question ist: Are there any efforts beeing
done to implement an ICC compliant CMM module at kernel or X
level? What would be a more appropriate place to ask for?

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Package finder

1996-10-11 Thread Vatiainen Heikki
Hello,

I have created a small search system where you can search for a Debian package 
either with a keyword, file name or direct browsing. The url is 
http://house.cs.tut.fi/~hessu/debian/

However, this can not be it's permanent location since it resides on the PC I 
use for the part time work here at the university. If you like it, I'll 
try to arrange a more stable home for it.

Here is a short description what you can do with it:

o You can list all the packages that mention a keyword in their Description or 
   other fields. You can also search for a package that contains a file.

o With the section browser you can list the sections and see what packages are 
   in them.

o The search system also has mirror site selection, so when you find the   
   package you are looking for, you can download it from the nearest mirror.
 
The raw material for all this are the Contents and Package files in the 
subdirectories 'stable', 'unstable', 'contrib' and 'non-free' of 
ftp.debian.org.

Feel free to use it, but please be nice to it :-)

// Heikki
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Re: [comp.os.linux.announce] Clarification - Linux-FT, The Road

1996-10-11 Thread Mr Stuart Lamble
Bruce Perens wrote:
[...]
(: NIST decided to make the suite available without charge. The Debian
(: Project most heartily applauds this decision. In fact we most heartily
(: jump up and down with glee and cheer unabashedly.

I'd probably go a bit further than that :-)

(: My plan is to package the POSIX.1 test suite so that any user can run it
(: and independently verify the POSIX.1 compliance of his/her system.
(: For this, we need volunteers. So far, Klee Dienes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> has
(: said he'd look at it but hasn't made a committment. We need more people
(: to look at and work on this. Please volunteer if you can.

I'm in pretty much the same situation - I haven't got that much time (one
assignment down, four to go) - but if/when I get time, (more likely than
not, in December :-( ), if it hasn't already been packaged, I'll do it.
Should be interesting. (*note well the caveat about time* - if you've got
the time, and I haven't explicitely stated to debian-devel that I've done
it, go right ahead.)

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"find" and symlinks question

1996-10-11 Thread J.H.M.Dassen
Hi,

As some of you may have noticed already, the http://www.debian.org/FTP/
interface unfortunately has duplicated entries in it.

The script that generates it does a 'find' through all the directories
of the FTP archive. To be precisely, it does a
find unstable contrib non-free -name '*.deb' -follow

The problem is that the same file is now listed under its real name
(.../binary-i386/foo/bar.deb), and under the symlinks (.../binary/foo/bar.deb).
However, I cannot remove the '-follow' since 'unstable' is itself a symlink
(currently to 'rex'), and would not be processed without it.

The 'ls' documentation mentions a '--dereference' switch, which could be
used to do something like
find `ls --dereference unstable contrib non-free` -name '*.deb'
but this switch doesn't appear to work.

How do I get a list of '*.deb' under all of unstable, contrib and non-free,
without getting duplicates because of symlinks?

Ray  
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I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking 
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exmh suddenly spawns zombies

1996-10-11 Thread Susan G. Kleinmann
Suddenly exmh seems to be producing zombie processes whenever I try to
reply to a message.  Of course, I'm not able to make the reply.

Specifically, when I click on the Reply button (then on Reply to sender),
exmh shows this message:
Starting ASYNC exmh-async xterm -e vi ...
But exmh doesn't start the xterm.  I do see this in the exmh log:
Exwin_Toplevel .log 80x20+177+270
After a few minutes, a background wish process is started:

/usr/bin/wish -f /usr/bin/exmh-bg exmh /usr/lib/exmh /usr/b (<==the line is 
   cut off here)

Then this process is zombie-ized after a couple of minutes.

Now, exmh's reply button used to start the xterm just fine.  I don't know 
when this odd behaviour started.  (I've been gone for a week, but thought 
I'd used the reply button since I got back last night; am not really sure
what happened in the last day to tell the truth.)  I can successfully 
execute 'xterm -e vi' from the command line.  Whatever is causing the problem
is not specific to one particular (e.g., badly formed) message; I've tried
and failed to reply to many messages.

The list of possibly relevant packages is attached below.  Obviously, any
hints would be very much appreciated.

Susan Kleinmann

==
ii  exmh1.6.9-2An X user interface for MH mail.
ii  expect  5.19.0-1   The expect/expectk programs and libraries.
ii  nvi 1.34-134.4BSD re-implementation of vi.
ii  tcl74   7.4p3-4The Tool Command Language (TCL) v7.4 - Run-T
ii  tcl74-dev   7.4p3-4The Tool Command Language (TCL) v7.4 - Devel
ii  tcl75   7.5p1-1The Tool Command Language (TCL) v7.5 - Run-T
ii  tclX7.4a-p2-1  Extended Tcl (TclX).
ii  tk404.0p3-3The Tk toolkit for TCL and X11 v4.0 - Run-Ti
ii  tk40-dev4.0p3-3The Tk toolkit for TCL and X11 v4.0 - Develo
ii  tk414.1-1  The Tk toolkit for TCL and X11 v4.1 - Run-Ti
ii  tkdiff  1.0b9-3A graphical "diff" utility.
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Re: Need help with NIS: close, but it don't work yet

1996-10-11 Thread Bruce Perens
Don't you have to put entries starting with "+" characters at the end of your
hosts, passwd, group, etc., files before NIS will be used to look stuff up?
Just guessing...

Thanks

Bruce
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Re: Can't do setuid

1996-10-11 Thread Rob Browning
Jim Worthington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> It appears that Debian Linux does not have setuid capability.  Is this a
> feature that I can turn on through a configuration file?

I would recommend that you investigate the sudo and super packages.
They will allow you to do exactly what you want much more securely.

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Need help with NIS: close, but it don't work yet

1996-10-11 Thread Rick Macdonald

A year ago I tried out NIS and had it working on my Slackware system.
(I didn't actually need to use it, so I only ran it for a day.)
I can't seem to get it to work now. When ypbind is running, commands
that should trigger a name lookup don't even cause the lights on my
modem (ppp) or ISDN box to blink with any activity. Same is true when
I execute ypbind itself: no line activity.
Routing is OK, since I can telnet, ftp, etc to remote hosts by using
IP addresses rather than names.

Running the following commands:

/etc/init.d/nis start
rpcinfo -p localhost
rpcinfo -u localhost ypbind
domainname
ps -auwwx|grep yp

gives this output:

# /etc/init.d/nis start
Setting NIS domainname to: veritas
Starting yellow page services: ypbind 
# rpcinfo -p localhost
   program vers proto   port
102   tcp111  portmapper
102   udp111  portmapper
172   udp748  ypbind
172   tcp750  ypbind
# rpcinfo -u localhost ypbind
program 17 version 2 ready and waiting
# domainname
veritas
# ps -auwwx|grep yp
root  1527  0.0  1.2   828   388  ?  S   23:55   0:00 /usr/sbin/ypbind 
root  1529  0.0  1.2   832   384  ?  S   23:55   0:00 /usr/sbin/ypbind 

Is is strange that ypbind appears twice?

Various commands give these error messages:

# ypcat passwd
YPBINDPROC_DOMAIN: No bound server for domain veritas
No such map passwd.byname. Reason: Can't bind to server which serves this
domain
# ping rickm
YPBINDPROC_DOMAIN: No bound server for domain veritas
ping: unknown host rickm
# ypwhich
can't yp_bind: Reason: RPC failure

I get this message in /var/adm/daemon.log (remember, the lights never 
blink on the modem):

Oct 10 00:06:01 localhost /usr/sbin/ypbind[28920]: Running in restricted
mode -- request to bind domain "veritas" rejected. 

I have "+::" in /etc/passwd and "+:::" in /etc/group.

/etc/host.conf:
==
order hosts,nis
multi on

In the file /etc/init.d/nis, I've tried

start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --exec ${NET}/ypbind -- -S
comsrv1,192.159.106.123

and just 

start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --exec ${NET}/ypbind

in case there's a problem with broadcasting.

I've installed the latest unstable versions of netbase, netstd and nis:
  -rw-rw-rw-   1 root   206560 Sep  1 08:26 netbase_2.06-1.deb
  -rw-rw-rw-   1 root   660206 Aug 30 18:27 netstd_2.07-1.deb
  -rw-rw-rw-   1 root90118 Oct  3 06:47 nis_2.00-1.deb

With my ISDN:

# netstat -rn
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt Iface
192.168.49.00.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U  1500 0  0 eth0
127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U  3584 0  0 lo
0.0.0.0 192.168.49.10.0.0.0 UG 1500 0  0 eth0


With my PPP:

# netstat -rn
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt  Iface
192.159.106.8   0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 1500 0  0  ppp0
127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U  3584 0  0  lo
0.0.0.0 192.159.106.8   0.0.0.0 UG 1500 0  0  ppp0

Note that with ppp, I'm on the same subnet as the NIS server, but with
ISDN I'm on a different one. Both ways, I have this same problem.

The nis server is there:

# ping 192.159.106.123
PING 192.159.106.123 (192.159.106.123): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 192.159.106.123: icmp_seq=0 ttl=253 time=1037.5 ms
64 bytes from 192.159.106.123: icmp_seq=1 ttl=253 time=57.3 ms
64 bytes from 192.159.106.123: icmp_seq=2 ttl=253 time=27.6 ms
64 bytes from 192.159.106.123: icmp_seq=3 ttl=253 time=28.1 ms

...RickM...

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Re: Debian + POSIX

1996-10-11 Thread Bruce Perens
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gith)

> Is the Debian distribution going to push for POSIX conformity?

Yes, because it just got easy and cheap.

> I may be missing something here, ( I'm still a relative newbie
> to Linux ) but what is the importance of it? After viewing the
> Linux-FT web pages, the only good thing I can see about a Posix
> certification is the right to go around patting yourself on the
> back for having one. ( Just the feeling I got from the site. )

Actually, until recently you could only be POSIX compliant by paying
a lot of money. You paid for copies of the standard, you paid for
validation software, and you paid for a POSIX compliance lab to certify
you. So it was a way for the well-funded commercial Linux projects to
differentiate themselves from high-quality but underfunded efforts like
Debian. Now, they will have to use the still-costly X/Open standards
to differentiate themselves.

NIST developed a compliance test suite for the U.S. Federal Information
Processing Standard. This is a superset of POSIX. They recently decided
to make it free, so that more people would implement POSIX. We think
that's a great idea, and we got right to work.

And now, the POSIX standard can be used for what it was intended for:
insuring source-level compatibility across multiple software platforms.

Thanks

Bruce Perens
Debian Project Leader
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Re: [Linux-ISP] Re: NCR 825 ctrler

1996-10-11 Thread Jon Lewis
On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, Daniel Stringfield wrote:

> Well, I will say this about Adaptec...   Just like many other name brands,
> you pay for the name.  Thats why Digi International makes you pay through
> the nose!  You pay $2 for the board, $700 for the Digi logo.

Another problem iwht the "high-end name brands" is that they sometimes
have the attitude that only they can write drivers, and so there's no
point in releasing programming info, cause that will only encourage the
writing of "bad" drivers.  However, since most big name brands don't
bother with Linux drivers, that generally means either some poor
programmer has to reverse engineer the thing or no driver will be
written...and we won't use their product.

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Debian + POSIX

1996-10-11 Thread Gith

Is the Debian distribution going to push for POSIX conformity?
I may be missing something here, ( I'm still a relative newbie
to Linux ) but what is the importance of it? After viewing the
Linux-FT web pages, the only good thing I can see about a Posix
certification is the right to go around patting yourself on the
back for having one. ( Just the feeling I got from the site. )

Willie Daniel
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Re: NCR 825 ctrler

1996-10-11 Thread Daniel Stringfield
> Hi guys,
> 
> I saw a price list which had the NCR 825 controller, and it said it's a 
> Fast & Wide controller. Is that true? Why is it so much cheaper than the
> Adaptec, for example? Is it a poor performer? The price was about $100 
> cheaper than the adaptec.
> 
> Anyone use it? Is it worth to buy it?

Well, I will say this about Adaptec...   Just like many other name brands,
you pay for the name.  Thats why Digi International makes you pay through
the nose!  You pay $2 for the board, $700 for the Digi logo.

Its an evil Microsoft world out there

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Replicating a Debian system

1996-10-11 Thread Steve Gaarder
Here's what I came up with to "clone" a Debian system with the aid of
a CD writer.  If you don't have a CD writer, you may be able to use a
Jaz drive or regular hard drive for the purpose.

1. Create tar files of each filesystem.  Use tar's "--one-file-system"
option to facilitate this.

2. Put these tar files on a CD.

3. Create a root disk using the "make-boot-floppies" package.  Put the
Rock Ridge filesystem module, isofs.o, on the disk.

4. Load the CD into the drive on the target system and boot from the
boot & root floppies.

5. Partition the disk and make the filesystems.  It makes life easier
to use the same partition numbers for the same filesystems as on the
source machine; otherwise, you will need to edit /etc/fstab.  If you
use a different device for the root or swap, there may be other
things you need to do also.

6. Start a shell (it's at the bottom of the list of choices).  Check
that the new filesystems are mounted under /target.

7. change to the directory where you put isofs.o, and run "insmod
./isofs.o".  This enables mounting CDROMs.

8. Mount the CDROM with "mount -r -t iso9660 /mnt".

9. Use "star" to untar the filesystems.  For example: "cd /target;
star 

Re: where to put clock -s?

1996-10-11 Thread David Puryear
Hi Larry 

You wrote:
> 
> David Puryear writes:
> 
> -> But when I do "date" and "clock" I get two different times. The
> -> time I get from "date" is way off. So I usually do "clock -s"
> -> and everything is fine. Any idea as why?
> 
> Define 'way off'. Seconds? Minutes? Hours? An even number of hours?
> If the difference is an even number of hours or within seconds of it,
> check the /etc/init.d/boot script and make sure near the top it says
> GMT="", and not GMT="-u".

That fixed it.

Thanks,
David

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TCP/IP and SMB

1996-10-11 Thread Daniel Stringfield
Thanks to all that replied!  
I do believe that I have gotten everything I need for the Windows side.
BTW, the site(and remote office locations) is NOT connected to the
Internet

Daniel
==
http://www.jax-inter.net/users/servo/ 
Organizer of Jax-LUG!  Email me for details!

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Re: where to put clock -s?

1996-10-11 Thread Larry 'Daffy' Daffner

David Puryear writes:

-> But when I do "date" and "clock" I get two different times. The
-> time I get from "date" is way off. So I usually do "clock -s"
-> and everything is fine. Any idea as why?

Define 'way off'. Seconds? Minutes? Hours? An even number of hours?
If the difference is an even number of hours or within seconds of it,
check the /etc/init.d/boot script and make sure near the top it says
GMT="", and not GMT="-u".

-Larry

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