Re: Networking woes (Detailed Long)
On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Walter L. Preuninger II wrote: When I am not connected to the internet using ppp (207.86.80.129) route will hang right after the localnet line. If I am connected to the net, or if named is not running, route does its job and gets out of the way. I do replace my default route when ppp comes up. Question 1 I think that is indicates a dns problem, but why? 199.233.164.33 is a local address. just wait. i'll bet that it's not actually hanging, it's just waiting for the name server to respond with an answer...eventually it will time out. some questions for you to think about: are you primary or secondary nameserver for 164.233.199.in-addr.arpa? alternatively is there a local primary or secondary for that zone? is localhost (or 127.0.0.1) the first nameserver entry in /etc/resolv.conf? who is the forwarder specified in /var/named/boot.options? your ISP? when you run the 'route' or 'netstat -r' command, it tries to resolve a name for the host/network address, unless you specify the '-n' numbers option. Question 2 Why does 199.233.164.32 show up in the route output. I have an /etc/networks file that looks like: localnet199.233.164.0 loannet 199.233.164.32 localhost 127.0.0.0 I really expected to see loannet in the route output. This happens any time, ie if I am connected by ppp or not, named running or not. i've seen the same thing on my system. i think the /etc/networks file doesn't work for subnets. try putting an entry in /etc/hosts instead: 199.233.164.32 loannet alternatively, if you are running the primary nameserver for 164.233.199.in-addr.arpa then you can put the entry into the DNS. Craig -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cannot exec 'cc1'
On a relatively recent Debian installation, I keep getting this error: gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1': No such file or directory But when I execute: # ls -l /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.1/cc1 I get: -rwxr-xr-x 1 rootroot 1153181 Aug 14 15:23 \ /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.1/cc1 On all the other Debian systems I have, I get precisely the same output from ls -l, but no errors from gcc. I'd be happy to provide package info if only I knew which package was relevant. In case it's of any relevance, libelf didn't seem to want to install; libelf0 and libelf0-dev installed OK though. ?? Susan Kleinmann -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: combining linux partitions
On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Igor Grobman wrote: I've recently installed Debian distribution. I really like it, so I'd like to get rid of my old slackware install, and make the Slackware and Debian partition into one. Is there a program out there that would do it. why not just reformat the slackware partition with mke2fs and mount it as /usr or /home or something? you don't use braindead drive letters like C: and D: under unix - you can mount any partition to anywhere in the file system hierarchy you likeneed more space on /home? easy, just install a new drive, format it, transfer the old files over, and mount it as /home. you don't even need to reboot. if you're extremely careful and know exactly what you're doing and have a good understanding of how your system works (e.g. what programs are running and what files they have open) you can even do it without dropping to single-user mode (not recommended for novices!!) if you do this, you'll have to transfer the files on /home or /usr to the newly formatted partition before you actually mount it. something like, for example: # WARNING: IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS IS DOING THEN # RESEARCH IT FIRST. LACK OF UNDERSTANDING CAN SCREW UP YOUR SYSTEM. # DO NOT JUST BLINDLY RUN SCRIPTS WHICH SOME COMPLETE STRANGER OFF THE # NET GIVES YOU. # # first mount the partition to a temporary mountpoint # XXX = the partition's device node, e.g. /dev/hda2 mount /dev/XXX /mnt # then copy the files to it cd /usr tar cf - . | (cd /mnt ; tar xf -) # unmount it umount /mnt # move the old usr subdirectory out of the way for now. # you can 'rm -rf /usr.old' later when you're sure everything's # working cd / mv usr usr.old # mount the new partition as /usr mkdir usr mount /dev/XXX /usr Remember to add an entry to /etc/fstab so that the /usr partition is mounted at boot time. I have Partition Magic, but it refuses to touch Linux partitions... not surprising...it's a dos program. Craig -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Travan Tape Drive Problems
On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Walter L. Preuninger II wrote: The tapedrive is identified in win95 as a QIC3020. This is a SCSI tape drive. (I've seen it ONCE as IDE although..) Take a look at the SCSI - Tape Howto. Hope this points in the right direction. Open up your case, and see what cable its attached too... Only use FTAPE if its hooked up through the floppy drive cable. (Slow!) -- Daniel Stringfield mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jax-inter.net/users/servo Send email for more information on the Jacksonville Linux Users Group! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can Debian install from a UMSDOS filesystem?
I couldn't find in the FAQ whether or not one can place all the deb files on a UMSDOS drive and install from scratch with the boot floopy sets. Anybody know one way or another? ...RickM... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: combining linux partitions
At 05:30 PM 11/5/96 +, you wrote: I've recently installed Debian distribution. I really like it, so I'd like to get rid of my old slackware install, and make the Slackware and Debian partition into one. Is there a program out there that would do it. I have Partition Magic, but it refuses to touch Linux partitions... Thanks for the help. Igor -- Igor- You could try md (multiple disk). This makes a virtual partition out of many. It lets you do a linear combination or a RAID 0 striping. I've just started using it and like it quite well. The kernel has support for it, if you compile it in. Cheers, Vernon M. Hamberg Old Republic National Title Insurance Co. Assistant Systems Specialist400 Second Avenue South (612) 371- x480 Minneapolis, MN 55401 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: combining linux partitions
Vern Hamberg wrote: Igor- You could try md (multiple disk). This makes a virtual partition out of many. It lets you do a linear combination or a RAID 0 striping. I've just started using it and like it quite well. The kernel has support for it, if you compile it in. Cheers, Vernon M. Hamberg Old Republic National Title Insurance Co. Assistant Systems Specialist400 Second Avenue South (612) 371- x480 Minneapolis, MN 55401 That is exactly what I was looking for! Thanks. BTW, it is not available as a debian package, is it? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can Debian install from a UMSDOS filesystem?
I imagine that you can do this. During beta testing of 1.1, I copied the entire binary hierarchy to a DOS partiton. I mounted this partition and then ran dselect pointed at the appropriate binary directory. I don't think it matters if you use UMSDOS or any other mountable filesystem. You just need to know how to mount it. If necessary, you might need to execute the insmod command to load the appropriate filesystem support. Syrus. -- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Rick Macdonald wrote: I couldn't find in the FAQ whether or not one can place all the deb files on a UMSDOS drive and install from scratch with the boot floopy sets. Anybody know one way or another? ...RickM... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libelf (Re: cannot exec 'cc1')
Hi Stuart -- You asked: Did I forget to stick in Replaces: libelf and Conflicts: libelf in there somewhere? libelf0 and libelf0-dev are the current versions; libelf should be dead. (If I forgot to do the Replaces and Conflicts bit, bug me, and I'll fix it. Two minute job, and a good excuse not to study. :) Yes, you did forget to stick in Replaces. I noticed that I had no trouble installing libelf0 and libelf0-dev today when libelf was installed and libelf-dev was half-installed. I haven't been able to fully install libelf-dev, at least not on the most recent machine where I've installed Debian. (For a minute there I hoped you were going to tell me why I couldn't cc1. Any ideas?) Susan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tail -f /var/adm/messages
Hi Johann -- You said: Heiko wrote: What does the last line before all this in '/var/adm/messages' say? I found the following sequence of lines: - Nov 4 07:55:43 Johann syslogd: exiting on signal 15 Nov 4 09:15:24 Johann syslogd 1.3-0#6: restart. Nov 4 09:15:25 Johann kernel: klogd 1.3-0, log source = /proc/kmsg started. Nov 4 09:15:25 Johann syslogd 1.3-0#6: restart. Nov 4 09:15:25 Johann syslogd: select: Bad file number Nov 4 09:15:56 Johann last message repeated 20827 times Nov 4 09:16:57 Johann last message repeated 47428 times Nov 4 09:17:58 Johann last message repeated 46865 times --- and I do not know what it means and how to fix it. Can somebody help please? I don't know the answer exactly, except that syslog.conf has a set of rules, which involve selector fields. I suspect there's a typo in one of your lines in /etc/syslog.conf. You can read more about it by executing man 5 syslog.conf Alternatively, you might want extract the syslog.conf file from a sysklog package, and compare that with your own, using some variant of dpkg-deb -x. HTH, Susan Kleinmann -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot exec 'cc1'
Hi Dale -- You said: I have had this same problem on my test partition. It was suggested (I think it was Steven Early) that one of the other packages in devel, possibly using dpkg diversions has clobbered things. If you look, you will find a 2.7.2 directory as well as the 2.7.2.1 directory (that gcc used for it's install). If you copy everything in the 2.7.2.1 directory into the 2.7.2 directory everything will work. I am still trying to narrow down which package actually does the nasty deed. Let me know if you find it first ;-) Thank you Thank you Thank you The package which causes the problem is gnat Version 3.04-2. Susan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lyx with teTeX??
Hi all, I was wondering if lyx can be used with teTeX?? Does any one know if and when teTeX will be able in debian? Thanks, David -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
popclient - loosing mails
Hi i remmeber somebody saying somthing about loosing mails when geting them via popclient, a few minutes a go i noticed that the same is happening to me. Nov 6 06:35:11 sim AutoPop[23609]: poped 2 messages and i get only one mail (AutoPop is just some crontab scripts that pops through popclient and loggs how much mails it d/l'ed) so did anybody found why it's happening? thks borik -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can Debian install from a UMSDOS filesystem?
Rick Macdonald said: I couldn't find in the FAQ whether or not one can place all the deb files on a UMSDOS drive and install from scratch with the boot floopy sets. Dunno about that, but I *do* know that you should *not* use UMSDOS on a SCSI device. There is a bug still floating around in the kernel which will cause massive filesystem corruption on your UMSDOS partition if it is on a SCSI device. Something to do with a kernel stack overflow somewhere. The UMSDOS developer is trying to isolate the problem. -- Scott Barker Linux Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cuug.ab.ca:8001/~barkers/ (under construction) [ I try to reply to all e-mail within 3 days. If you don't ] [ get a response by then, I probably didn't get your e-mail. ] [ Unsolicited commercial and junk e-mail will be proof-read for US$100 ] All animals except man know that the ultimate of life is to enjoy it. - Samuel Butler -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Travan Tape Drive Problems
Daniel Stringfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Walter L. Preuninger II wrote: The tapedrive is identified in win95 as a QIC3020. This is a SCSI tape drive. (I've seen it ONCE as IDE although..) Take a look at the SCSI - Tape Howto. Hope this points in the right direction. Open up your case, and see what cable its attached too... Only use FTAPE if its hooked up through the floppy drive cable. (Slow!) From Ftape HOWTO : driver under Linux. The ftape driver interfaces to QIC-40, QIC-80, QIC-3010 and QIC-3020 compatible drives only. The QIC-3010 and QIC-3020 standards are also known as `Travan' (TR-2 and TR-3). These drives connects via the floppy disk controller (FDC). It does not So Walter is using a Ftape tape - check /var/log/messages to see what the error messages and join the Ftape mailing list or check a linux.ftape (?) newsgroup (which is a gateway to the list if your site has it). Adrian Phillips -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CD with code-freeze for 1.2
Would somebody please announce the most appropriate, foolproof CD-set for a frozen Debian 1.2, when it is available? And by the way, sorry that ... . Yggdrasil has shipped the 8 CD Winter 1997 edition of . Linux Internet Archives. The price is still $22.95 (under $3 . per CD now that the archives have grown to eight discs). It . is the first Linux product to include Linux 2.1 sources (2.0 . is included too, of course). . ... .Disc 5: Debian 1.1 and 1.1.1 i386 Linux distributions . ... ... that this CD-set doesn't come a few weeks later. Regards, Andreas. -- Uni Wuppertal, FB Elektrotechnik, Tel/Fax: (0202) 439 - 3009 Dr. Andreas Wehler; [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot exec 'cc1'
Susan G. Kleinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On a relatively recent Debian installation, I keep getting this error: gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1': No such file or directory Do you have any packages installed which divert gcc? Other language compilers? Do an strace on gcc and see where it's looking for cc1. In case it's of any relevance, libelf didn't seem to want to install; libelf0 and libelf0-dev installed OK though. ?? It's not; libelf is for manipulating the contents of ELF objects. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Travan Tape Drive Problems
On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Walter L. Preuninger II wrote: The tapedrive is identified in win95 as a QIC3020. This is a SCSI tape drive. (I've seen it ONCE as IDE although..) Take a look at the SCSI - Tape Howto. Hope this points in the right direction. QIC-3020 (and the related Travan TR3) drives are certainly common in floppy drive types. eg the Iomega Ditto 3200, which I have. The special accelerated controller isn't really supported (or rather, the support situation is unclear and it doesn't work for me), but it works on the standard floppy controller. hamish -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mule?
I'm looking for a package of Mule for Debian. Does anyone have it? -- Kaz Sasayama, a Nagoyan X68000, Linux and OS/2 user. pub 1024/5B09C385 1996/01/03 Kazuhiro Sasayama [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint = 53 71 54 56 FB 3D 76 0B 92 5D 32 40 C5 34 38 00 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[no subject]
Hi, I've installed xscreensaver and added line: xscreensaver -silent -timeout 5 -cycle 5 in the /etc/X11/Xsession. But it fails to start with message: Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server Error: Can't open display: :0 I use xdm to start X. If startx is used instead, everything is OK. Another strange thing with regard to xdm is that SHELL variable is not set. Any help is appreciated. Best regards. Zlatko __ Dr. Zlatko Rek | Phone:+386 61 177 3746 Jozef Stefan Institute | +386 61 177 3900 National Supercomputing Centre | Fax: +386 61 219 385 Jamova 39, P.O.BOX 300 | E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SI-1001 Ljubljana, SLOVENIA | http://www2.ijs.si/~rek/ __ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dpkg verification
BG Lim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I asked this question sometime ago but I don't think there was an answer. I was wondering is it possible to mimic the RedHat rpm verify command? You know, after installing many packages, and over some period of time, it is nice to check is the files from some earlier package are still there. This has been discussed to some extent on one of the Debian mailing lists (maybe debian-devel?). I'm not sure there was much consensus out of the discussion, other than perhaps we really need to work out what we'd want such a verify feature to do exactly. At the moment everybody seems to be madly scrambling to get 1.2 out the door, so I don't think anybody has taken it any further than that at this stage. Warwick Warwick Harveyemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Computer Sciencephone: +61-3-9287-9171 University of Melbourne fax: +61-3-9348-1184 Parkville, Victoria, AUSTRALIA 3052 web: http://www.cs.mu.OZ.AU/~warwick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mule?
Hi, I'm looking for a package of Mule for Debian. Does anyone have it? Check the ftp/web server of the Japan Linux Users Group, ftp.linux.or.jp. The Debain stuff (both source and binary) can be found at ftp://ftp.linux.or.jp/pub/debian/jp-devel/unstable/. I was told that the packages are still in beta, so if you decide to use them and notice anything strange, please contact Yoshiaki Yanagihara at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] with details. As of now, most of what I've seen so far comes with japanese Documentation. If anybody has more info (beyond the JE-HOWTO) on how to get a JE aware Debian system up and running, I'd be glad to hear about it. I've got KTerm and Kon set up and running, but I just can't figure out how to use the Canna package to input text :-/ Ciao, -- Thomas Baetzler, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://home.pages.de/~thb/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot exec 'cc1'
Hi Guy -- You suggested: Susan G. Kleinmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On a relatively recent Debian installation, I keep getting this error: gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1': No such file or directory Do you have any packages installed which divert gcc? Other language compilers? Do an strace on gcc and see where it's looking for cc1. Thanks for your response. strace gcc hello.c did indeed reveal where gcc was looking for cc1, which I could then have used on Contents.gz to find out what was confusing gcc. It looks as if this problem was reported as Bug #4773 against gnat 3.04-2, and that Mark Eichin plans to fix it along with the release of a new version of gnat. Susan Kleinmann -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: popclient - loosing mails
On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Boris D. Beletsky wrote: Hi i remmeber somebody saying somthing about loosing mails when geting them via popclient, a few minutes a go i noticed that the same is happening to me. Nov 6 06:35:11 sim AutoPop[23609]: poped 2 messages and i get only one mail (AutoPop is just some crontab scripts that pops through popclient and loggs how much mails it d/l'ed) so did anybody found why it's happening? I was the one who reported the problem. Someone replied that they have the same problem when pine is running (conflict over lock file), but I always make sure pine has exited before I pop down my mail. It seems that if the number of messages are less than 5, that I have an even chance of not seeing any new mail in my inbox after popclient reports downloading the files. Is there some way to track this activity? Thanks, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 877-0257 Flexible Software Fax: NONE Black Creek Critters e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you don't see what you want, just ask -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cleaning up kernel source
OK, I downloaded the source for the 2.0.24 kernel and compiled a custom kernel yesterday. And now I have the tree leftover taking up 30M on my hard drive. And I was wondering what I can clean up to free up the space. I know I can run a make clean to remove the *.o files and other compiling files, but that would still leave quite a bit leftover. I am tempted to rm -r the whole tree (which I have done previously), but I see the Documentation that I might want to keep some things handy (like the documentation). So what do I do with all the include files? should I copy them all over to the /usr/include directory? and do I want to leave something hanging around /usr/src/linux? Thanks in advance for your assistance. -- The AtticKeeper: David Morris mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start from now and make a brand new ending... -- Unknown --- The Nerdnosh Attic: http://www.netins.net/showcase/nerdnosh The Lectionary Page: http://www.netins.net/showcase/dmorris/ PGP Public Key available via Finger --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can Debian install from a UMSDOS filesystem?
I couldn't find in the FAQ whether or not one can place all the deb files on a UMSDOS drive and install from scratch with the boot floopy sets. Anybody know one way or another? ...RickM... Yes. I did exactly that last week. And if you copy base1_1.tgz or what-ever it is called to the top of the umsdos partition you only need the boot and root floppies. Captain Zoom, MartinS -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cleaning up kernel source
On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, David Morris wrote:
OK, I downloaded the source for the 2.0.24 kernel and compiled a custom
kernel
yesterday. And now I have the tree leftover taking up 30M on my hard drive.
And I was wondering what I can clean up to free up the space.
I am tempted to rm -r the whole tree (which I have done previously), but I
see
the Documentation that I might want to keep some things handy (like the
documentation). So what do I do with all the include files? should I copy
them
all over to the /usr/include directory? and do I want to leave something
hanging around /usr/src/linux?
You can delete all the drivers you don't use (drivers/scsi,
for example, is a good choice if you have only IDE),
arch/{alpha,m68k,mips,ppc,sparc}... this way you will be able to
recompile again, just in case.
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Re: cleaning up kernel source
[ Please don't Cc: me when replying to my message on a mailing list. ] David Morris: do I want to leave something hanging around /usr/src/linux? Except possibly the documentation, no. Debian distributes the header files as part of the libc5 package. -- Please read http://www.iki.fi/liw/mail-to-lasu.html before mailing me. Please don't Cc: me when replying to my message on a mailing list. pgpznueMXRXOi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: AAAH!! Diald again!!
The PPP options file has everything disabled. Diald is being run like this: diald /dev/ttys1 -m ppp local 192.168.0.50 remote 192.168.0.51 defaultroute modem crtscts connect 'chat -v ATDT### CONNECT ogin: mylogname word: mypassword' dynamic -daemon Martin said: Hmm Look at your chat paramters.. The first parameter should be but in your case it's ATDT###. Ther should be a space between and ATDT... Well, I already tried that with and without the space. Either way doesn't work, it just varies the amount of time it takes to fail. Weird, eh? I think I've missed something simple somewhere along the line, now I need to track it down. Tim --- I am Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be APPROXIMATED! [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- (Primary email) --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cleaning up kernel source
Hi, David == David Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David OK, I downloaded the source for the 2.0.24 kernel and compiled David a custom kernel yesterday. And now I have the tree leftover David taking up 30M on my hard drive. And I was wondering what I can David clean up to free up the space. David I know I can run a make clean to remove the *.o files and other David compiling files, but that would still leave quite a bit David leftover. (make-kpkg clean) David I am tempted to rm -r the whole tree (which I have done David previously), but I see the Documentation that I might want to David keep some things handy (like the documentation). So what do I David do with all the include files? should I copy them all over to David the /usr/include directory? and do I want to leave something David hanging around /usr/src/linux? Well, you really need not bother with the include files, since libc5-dev should contain header files for most of your needs. However, if you wish to be very cautious, build a kernel-headers-2.0.24 package, which will give you all the heades (under /usr/src/linux), just in case. Then rm -r all other subdirectories except the ones you want to keep (like the documentation). BTW, after cleaning up, the source come to just under 6M. David Thanks in advance for your assistance. You're welcome. manoj Canned explanation about kernel header files The headers were included in libc5-dev after a rash of very buggy alpha kernel releases (1.3.7* or something like that) that proceeded to break compilations, etc. Kernel versions are changed far more rapidly than libc is, and there are higer chances that people install a custom kernel than they install custom libc. Add to that the fact that few programs really need the more volatile elements of the header files (that is, things that really change from kernel version to kernel version), [before you reject this, consider: programs compiled on one kernel version usually work on other kernels]. So, it makes sense that a set of headers be provided from a known good kernel version, and that is sufficient for compiling most programs, (it also makes the compile time environments for programs on debian machines a well known one, easing the process of dealing with problem reports), the few programs that really depend on cutting edge kernel data structures may just use -I/usr/src/linux/include (provided that kernel-headers or kernel-source exists on the system). Most programs, even if they include linux/something.h, do not really depend on the version of the kernel, as long as the kernel versions are not too far off, they will work. And the headers provided in libc5-dev are just that. libc5-deb is uploaded frequently enough that it never lags too far behind the latest released kernel. There are two different capabilities which are the issue, and the kernel-packages and libc5-dev address different ones: a) The kernel packages try tp provide a stable, well behaved kernel and modules, and may be upgraded whenever there are significant advances in those directions (bug fixes, more/better module support, etc). These, however, may not have include files that are non-broken as far as non-kernel programs are concerned, and the quality of the development/compilation environment is not the kernel packages priority (Also, please note that the kernel packages are tied together, so kernel-source, headers, and image are produced in sync) b) Quality of the development/compilation environment is the priority of libc5-dev package, and it tries to ensure that the headers it provides would be stable and not break non-kernel programs. This assertion may fail for alpha kernels, which may otherwise be perfectly stable, hence the need for a different set of known-good kernel include files. -- Caesar had his Brutus--Charles the First, his Cromwell--and George the Third (Treason! cried the Speaker)--may profit by their example. If this be treason, make the most of it. -- Patrick Henry Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XFree86 3.2 is available
Paul == Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, Bill Bumgarner wrote: The 3.2 release of XFree86 is available in source and binary form; among many other very cool features, it now includes a GRAPHICAL setup utility Paul Now i just hope that Debian-1.2 will not be released before Paul there isn't a decent XFree86-3.2 package included. But maybe Paul i'm asking for too much... I agree. Setting up XFree86 was by far the most difficult part of my original Linux setup. With each new distribution I have tried using the configuration programs provided but have always retreated to my original XF86Config files. For a new user I think that an interactive graphical setup program would be a very important feature. Nathan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian 1.2 Xfree 3.2
Hi, Xfree 3.2 is out, and I just noticed that there was a code freeze for Debian 1.2. So, is there any plan for including Xfree 3.2 in Debian 1.2 ? Jean P.S. : I'm sorry if the mailing list is already buzzing about it, but I don't have subscribed to it. Probably there should be some DCS (Debian Change Summaries) on the web page... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian 1.2 Xfree 3.2
Xfree 3.2 is out, and I just noticed that there was a code freeze for Debian 1.2. So, is there any plan for including Xfree 3.2 in Debian 1.2 ? Xfree 3.2 is too big of a change to get done by Debian 1.2. Expect it standard in unstable and the next stable release. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- measure with micrometer, mark with chalk, cut with axe, hope like hell -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mouse : can't locate module char-major-10
Hello All, I am new to Linux and of course new to the Debian distribution. Recently I tried to install X on my box using the vga16 server. When started, the server immediately die with a message Cannot open mouse : (no such device). I had the same problem. As far as I know, Debian does not include PS/2 driver as a module, so you'll have to recompile your kenel :(. -- Igor Grobman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life! Can't live with it, can't live without it... Igor, Many thanks for your suggestion. I recompiled the kernel with PS/2 mouse support and the mouse is now working. Andre Andre Dewevre Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
smail 3.2 has new logfile format
I have some programs that parsed my mail logfiles, and they are broken now
that I've installed smail version 3.2, which has a different logfile
format. Is there any way to configure smail to use the old format, which I
prefer?
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#!/bin/perl -sp0777iX+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0j]dsj # RSA-3-lines-perl
$/=unpack('H*',$_);$_=`echo 16dio\U$kSK$/SM$n\EsN0p[lN*1 # Joey Hess
lK[d2%Sa2/d0$^Ixp|dc`;s/\W//g;$_=pack('H*',/((..)*)$/) # [EMAIL PROTECTED]
He. He. He. - - Herman Toothrot
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Re: cleaning up kernel source
On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Lars Wirzenius wrote: David Morris: do I want to leave something hanging around /usr/src/linux? Except possibly the documentation, no. Debian distributes the header files as part of the libc5 package. So that's what's been going on. What I've been doing is following the instructions in /usr/src/linux/README and creating pointers in /usr/include to the kernel source tree (right now for 2.0.24). Which way is better? Thanks Paul Serice -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XFree86 3.2 is available
Regarding XFree 3.2, it will be in unstable before 1.2 is released. I guess it is appropriate to recommend that CD manufacturers include the 27 XFree82 3.2 packages from unstable on their CDs along with the 3.1 version that will be in the release. When I write the release notes for CD manufacturers, I'll put that in. Thanks Bruce -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
need help from someone who has gotten their SONY cdu31a working
Would someone who has gotten their SONY cdu31a working please walk through the process with this user? Thanks Bruce From: The Darter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Bruce! A friend of send me this: Run the module configuration, and add the arguments cdu31_port=3D0x cdu31a_irq=3DX Fill in your I/O port address and IRQ as appropriate. Bruce I have make this, but it will don't run with it. :( This is my hardware-configuration: CD-ROM Sony cdu33a direct connected with a Soundblaster 16 ASP MultiCD (Hardware-IRQ on card 10) This is the Error-Message: not detected the cdrom-format (at every cd's) Please, help me. Your Detlef Zober -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
shadow password
*argh* Im sick of solaris x86, we want to migrate or user machine from solaris x86 to debian. The only problem is, i dont want to have to convert 500 passwd/shadow entries into debian passwd entries. Can debian (a package perhaps?) handle shadow? and is the solris encryption the same as the debian? thanks, your help much appreciated:) Sahua, - mIcHaEl ///\ The Australian Internet Company c-00 ISP par Excellence \http://www.electric-rain.net/ (mine) |\_- http://www.aic.net.au/ (not mine) \ / . On the Plains of Hesitation bleach the bones of countless millions who, at the dawn of victory, sat down to wait and waiting died. -G.W Cecil/Adlai Stevenson. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: shadow password
Enough packages have been built with shadow passwords so that you can run them. They are available in the project/experimental directory on our FTP archive. The encryption should be the same. Thanks Bruce -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
