accessing files over serial cable?

[John Rulnick]

Is there a simple way to access a linux filesystem over a serial cable?

For example, I would like to run dselect from my laptop and access
files residing on mounted partitions of my desktop linux system.

Thank you.

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Re: non frees on CD

[Syrus Nemat-Nasser]

It is possible to install the individual packages you want
from non-free "by hand" with dpkg: dpkg -i some_package.deb.
Then, you can run dselect to take care of dependency problems
and configuration problems if any exist.

Luck.  Syrus.

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On Thu, 7 Nov 1996, Thomas Degner wrote:

> Hi ,
> 
> recently i installed a Debian-Linux from the Sep. 96
> Infomagic Dev. Resource on my computer at home.
> 
> i also like to install the non-free packages, which are
> NOT included on the CD.
> 
> I got at least a part of the non-free package via ftp
> at my office, transfered the files to my  home 
> using a zip-drive and put  them onto my hard drive.
>  
> However, using 'deselect' i cannot use *different* 
> source media during *one* deselect session. I.e. 
> i cannot say look for 'buzz' on CD and for 'non-free'
> on my hard drive /zip drive.
> 
> ppp/ftp connection to my home computer is no alternative 
> for me ( low transmission rate, high phone bills).
> 
> 
> any suggestions ?
> 
> tom
> 
> Thomas Degner, Dept. of Physics, Sec. Energy and Semiconductor Research 
> P.O. Box 2503, D-26111 Oldenburg
> phone: ++49-441-798-3007 (fax:3326)   email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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Fix for CDU31A driver in 2.0.23 and 2.1.5 (fwd)

[Paul Seelig]

Something went wrong with my posting which was supposed to include this
message from c.o.l.a., so here it is again!
  P. *8^)
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Date: 30 Oct 1996 11:21:23 GMT
From: Corey Minyard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.announce
Subject: Fix for CDU31A driver in 2.0.23 and 2.1.5
Followup-To: comp.os.linux.development.system

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Well, I managed to screw up the CDU31A driver.  I couldn't test the
patch I sent Linus because my interface board is broken; it looked
right (my daughter has been waking me up at 5:00 every morning and
everything looks right when you are tired :-), so I applied it.  Well,
it was wrong.  The following fix has been tested and does seem to
work.  Sorry for the problem.

- -- 
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  Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   UUCP:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

- --- linux/drivers/cdrom/cdu31a.c.old  Sun Oct 20 22:25:06 1996
+++ linux/drivers/cdrom/cdu31a.cSun Oct 20 22:30:31 1996
@@ -1915,7 +1915,9 @@
int num_tracks;
 
 
- -   num_tracks = sony_toc.last_track_num - sony_toc.first_track_num + 1;
+   num_tracks = (  bcd_to_int(sony_toc.last_track_num)
+ - bcd_to_int(sony_toc.first_track_num)
++ 1);
for (i = 0; i < num_tracks; i++)
{
   if (sony_toc.tracks[i].track == track)
@@ -2486,8 +2488,8 @@
  i=verify_area(VERIFY_WRITE, hdr, sizeof(*hdr));
  if(i<0)
return i;
- - loc_hdr.cdth_trk0 = sony_toc.first_track_num;
- - loc_hdr.cdth_trk1 = sony_toc.last_track_num;
+ loc_hdr.cdth_trk0 = bcd_to_int(sony_toc.first_track_num);
+ loc_hdr.cdth_trk1 = bcd_to_int(sony_toc.last_track_num);
  memcpy_tofs(hdr, &loc_hdr, sizeof(*hdr));
   }
   return 0;
@@ -2567,8 +2569,8 @@
return i;
  
  memcpy_fromfs(&ti, (char *) arg, sizeof(ti));
- - if (   (ti.cdti_trk0 < sony_toc.first_track_num)
- - || (ti.cdti_trk0 > sony_toc.last_track_num)
+ if (   (ti.cdti_trk0 < bcd_to_int(sony_toc.first_track_num))
+ || (ti.cdti_trk0 > bcd_to_int(sony_toc.last_track_num))
  || (ti.cdti_trk1 < ti.cdti_trk0))
  {
 return -EINVAL;
@@ -2587,7 +2589,7 @@
   * If we want to stop after the last track, use the lead-out
   * MSF to do that.
   */
- - if (ti.cdti_trk1 >= sony_toc.last_track_num)
+ if (ti.cdti_trk1 >= bcd_to_int(sony_toc.last_track_num))
  {
 log_to_msf(msf_to_log(sony_toc.lead_out_start_msf)-1,
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Hint: slow Netscape

[Esa Turtiainen]

(I just subscribed the newsgroup, this may be an old one...)

I recently wondered why my Netscape is so slow to start. I found that
some Debian packages adds entries to /etc/mailcap many times and
Netscape is *very slow* in processing them.

I do not know yet the fundamental problem but I guess that I am not the
only one.  If your Netscape is even slower than you could expect, check
the file.  There should be just one copy of each lines. And Netscape is
still faster if you remove lines you do not think to use. 

Esa

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Sorry to repost.

[mike]

but I'm sure I saw a message about turning slackware .tgz's and
.rpms into debian packages.  I've got a few .tgz's I'd like to install,
and would prefer it if I could keep everything registered with dpkg.

TIA,
mike...

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Re: XFree86 3.2 is available

[Lars Wirzenius]

[ Please don't Cc: me when replying to my message on a mailing list. ]

Paul Seelig:
> Why is I-Connect obviously allowed to include non-free on their disk and
> not e.g. InfoMagic who are selling more or less an image of the primary
> Debian FTP server as well? 

It's not Debian who are restricting non-free. It's the authors
of the programs. Some of them don't want people to put their
software on a CD-ROM and sell it. InfoMagic probably doesn't
want to go through all the programs in non-free and check what
they can or can't put on their disks.

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Re: Reading news offline

[Boris D. Beletsky]

Hi Nick, You wrote:
 Nick>
 Nick> On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Johann Spies wrote:
 Nick>
 Nick> > Date: Tue, 5 Nov 96 15:35 SAT From: Johann Spies
 Nick> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Nick> > Subject: Reading news offline Resent-Date: Tue,
 Nick> > 5 Nov 1996 11:40:15 -0500 (EST) Resent-From:
 Nick> > debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Nick> >
 Nick> > I have a dial-up connection to my ISP.
 Nick> >
 Nick> > I want to be able to read the usergroups offline. I have
 Nick> > downloaded suck, inn and inews and also trn. After I have
 Nick> > read their documentation and also the News-HOWTO, I still do
 Nick> > not know how to do it.
 Nick>
 Nick> Actually, for a small newsfeed I prefer CNews with the nntp
 Nick> package to inn (but that's a personal preference). If you have
 Nick> inn up and running properly, don't bother changing it.

i would advice using leafnode - doesn't require any news feed
acts as a reader to remote news server, small, runs from [x]inetd

take a look at it
http://www.troll.no/freebies/leafnode.html

or

http://www.ssc.com/lg/issue9/newsserver.html

just my 1.5 Rubal'

d879e90x8

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non frees on CD

[Thomas Degner]

Hi ,

recently i installed a Debian-Linux from the Sep. 96
Infomagic Dev. Resource on my computer at home.

i also like to install the non-free packages, which are
NOT included on the CD.

I got at least a part of the non-free package via ftp
at my office, transfered the files to my  home 
using a zip-drive and put  them onto my hard drive.
 
However, using 'deselect' i cannot use *different* 
source media during *one* deselect session. I.e. 
i cannot say look for 'buzz' on CD and for 'non-free'
on my hard drive /zip drive.

ppp/ftp connection to my home computer is no alternative 
for me ( low transmission rate, high phone bills).


any suggestions ?

tom

Thomas Degner, Dept. of Physics, Sec. Energy and Semiconductor Research 
P.O. Box 2503, D-26111 Oldenburg
phone: ++49-441-798-3007 (fax:3326)   email [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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mkwhatis?

[Paul Seelig]

How do i generate a whatis database in Debian Linux?
   P. *8^)
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Re: Netscape 3.01 libc5_5.4.7 crashes

[Shaya Potter]

The reason that netscape and a few other applications crash is because 
their malloc statments are buggy.  It is not a bug in libc5.4.7, but in 
netscape.  However, since this is a problem we are including the old malloc
in the libc package, and people who are going to run netscape will have a 
script that will have netscape use the malloc instead of the normal one 
in libc5.4.7.  However, we do want the libc5.4.7 malloc because it is so 
much faster from what I have heard, and the libc5.4.7 fixes long standing 
security bugs.

Shaya
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On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Rick Macdonald wrote:

> 
> My installation is up-to-date with unstable.
> Since I installed libc5_5.4.7 (and Netscape 3.01), Netscape almost
> always crashes on this page:
> 
>http://www.amdahl.com
> 
> probably because of the Java Applet.
> 
> I know this was discussed just recently. It seems the options
> are to disable Java in Netscape or downgrade to an older libc.
> Are there other options?
> 
> Some questions:
> 
> 1) If I downgrade to an older libc, what happens to other packages
> that depend on newer libc versions?
> 
> 2) Doesn't Debian 1.2, just frozen the other day, contain this
> libc version? With all the complaints with libc, isn't 1.2 bound
> to be poorly received?
> 
> ...RickM...
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Re: ETA of the new X packages

[Syrus Nemat-Nasser]

I can't be sure that 2.0.24 was the cause, but maelstrom won't
run right now because it claims that it cannot allocate 'X shared
memory' or some such thing.  Lately, I upgraded many things including
libc5 and 2.0.6 -> 2.0.24 before I noticed this.  Anyway, when
I can spare a few hours of modem time, I'll be getting the 2.0.23
sources to compare.

Syrus.

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On Thu, 7 Nov 1996, Gerry Jensen wrote:

> On Thu, 7 Nov 1996, Bruce Perens wrote:
> 
> > I'd like to hear more about what breaks with 2.0.24 .
> 
> Some people have reported that X is slower in 2.0.24. Linus is looking
> into the cause.
> 
> Gerry
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Re: ETA of the new X packages

[Paul Seelig]

On Thu, 7 Nov 1996, Bruce Perens wrote:

> It currently has 2.0.23 (although I have not released a boot disk, the
> kernel package is there).
> 
> I'd like to hear more about what breaks with 2.0.24 .
>
How about hearing what has been fixed in 2.0.24? ;-) There was a bug
introduced via a bugfix for the cdu31a in kernel 2.0.23 which was fixed in
2.0.24 . This was announced in c.o.l.a. as follows:

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From: Corey Minyard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.announce
Subject: Fix for CDU31A driver in 2.0.23 and 2.1.5
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Well, I managed to screw up the CDU31A driver.  I couldn't test the
patch I sent Linus because my interface board is broken; it looked
right (my daughter has been waking me up at 5:00 every morning and
everything looks right when you are tired :-), so I applied it.  Well,
it was wrong.  The following fix has been tested and does seem to
work.  Sorry for the problem.

- -- 
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  Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   UUCP:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

- --- linux/drivers/cdrom/cdu31a.c.old  Sun Oct 20 22:25:06 1996
+++ linux/drivers/cdrom/cdu31a.cSun Oct 20 22:30:31 1996
@@ -1915,7 +1915,9 @@
int num_tracks;
 
 
- -   num_tracks = sony_toc.last_track_num - sony_toc.first_track_num + 1;
+   num_tracks = (  bcd_to_int(sony_toc.last_track_num)
+ - bcd_to_int(sony_toc.first_track_num)
++ 1);
for (i = 0; i < num_tracks; i++)
{
   if (sony_toc.tracks[i].track == track)
@@ -2486,8 +2488,8 @@
  i=verify_area(VERIFY_WRITE, hdr, sizeof(*hdr));
  if(i<0)
return i;
- - loc_hdr.cdth_trk0 = sony_toc.first_track_num;
- - loc_hdr.cdth_trk1 = sony_toc.last_track_num;
+ loc_hdr.cdth_trk0 = bcd_to_int(sony_toc.first_track_num);
+ loc_hdr.cdth_trk1 = bcd_to_int(sony_toc.last_track_num);
  memcpy_tofs(hdr, &loc_hdr, sizeof(*hdr));
   }
   return 0;
@@ -2567,8 +2569,8 @@
return i;
  
  memcpy_fromfs(&ti, (char *) arg, sizeof(ti));
- - if (   (ti.cdti_trk0 < sony_toc.first_track_num)
- - || (ti.cdti_trk0 > sony_toc.last_track_num)
+ if (   (ti.cdti_trk0 < bcd_to_int(sony_toc.first_track_num))
+ || (ti.cdti_trk0 > bcd_to_int(sony_toc.last_track_num))
  || (ti.cdti_trk1 < ti.cdti_trk0))
  {
 return -EINVAL;
@@ -2587,7 +2589,7 @@
   * If we want to stop after the last track, use the lead-out
   * MSF to do that.
   */
- - if (ti.cdti_trk1 >= sony_toc.last_track_num)
+ if (ti.cdti_trk1 >= bcd_to_int(sony_toc.last_track_num))
  {
 log_to_msf(msf_to_log(sony_toc.lead_out_start_msf)-1,
&(params[4]));

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non-free on CDs

[Bruce Perens]

From: Paul Seelig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> How about putting in as well that those CD-ROM manufacturers are at last
> allowed to include the non-free directory too?

The note I gave them last time on the non-free directory was that they
can include parts of it, but they must read all of the licenses of the
programs in non-free to see which ones they can include. There are
definitely some programs in there that can not be sold.

> It was really a *BIG* disappointment upon reception of the latest
> InfoMagic "Linux Developers Resource" when i had to see that the
> software from it was included in the CD set as *.rpm's, *.tgz's and
> source but not as Debian's *.deb packages!

Joel Goldberger at InfoMagic is quite friendly to Debian. Why don't you
ask him (_nicely_, please) to do it differently next time. E-mail him
at <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> .

> Why is I-Connect obviously allowed to include non-free on their disk and
> not e.g. InfoMagic who are selling more or less an image of the primary
> Debian FTP server as well? 

It's not an "allow" thing. This is a decision made individually by each
CD manufacturer. Some of them spend more time reading copyrights and
deciding what to include, some of them decide to include stuff that
maybe they shouldn't, etc.

Thanks

Bruce

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Re: Is this a virus?

[Bruce Perens]

No, it is not a virus, although I think that code fragement is now
obsolete. Ian Murdock wrote that to run a configure script the first
time the system boots after being installed. I think I hacked inittab
or something to start the configure script without waiting for the login
prompt in 1.1 , which obsoleted that code. If it is still in the base
system, I will remove it.

My hack removes itself after it runs, so that there is no possibility to  
take advantage of it as a trojan horse later on.

Thanks

Bruce

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Re: ETA of the new X packages

[Gerry Jensen]

On Thu, 7 Nov 1996, Bruce Perens wrote:

> I'd like to hear more about what breaks with 2.0.24 .

Some people have reported that X is slower in 2.0.24. Linus is looking
into the cause.

Gerry

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Re: XFree86 3.2 is available

[Paul Seelig]

On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Bruce Perens wrote:

> I guess it is appropriate to recommend that CD manufacturers include
> the 27 XFree82 3.2 packages from "unstable" on their CDs along with
> the 3.1 version that will be in the release. When I write the release
> notes for CD manufacturers, I'll put that in.
> 
How about putting in as well that those CD-ROM manufacturers are at last
allowed to include the non-free directory too? It was really a *BIG*
disappointment upon reception of the latest InfoMagic "Linux Developers
Resource" when i had to see that the software from it was included in the
CD set as *.rpm's, *.tgz's and source but not as Debian's *.deb packages!
Why is I-Connect obviously allowed to include non-free on their disk and
not e.g. InfoMagic who are selling more or less an image of the primary
Debian FTP server as well? 
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Re: ETA of the new X packages

[Rick Macdonald]

Bruce Perens wrote:
> 
> > Any chance that 1.2 will have a recent kernel (like 2.0.23 or 2.0.24)?
> > 2.0.24 has the big ping fix which I consider important, however I've
> > heard some applications have problems with .24 due to a change in a
> > network struct.
> 
> It currently has 2.0.23 (although I have not released a boot disk, the
> kernel package is there).

I don't get it. My mirror of ftp.debian.org, up-to-date as of last
night,
is a mirror of "development", which is a link to rex. Isn't the
now-frozen
1.2 a snapshot of rex taken on monday? My mirror still has kernel 2.0.6:

  lrwxrwxrwx1 rickm 55 Jul 23 05:30
kernel-headers-2.0.6_2.0.6-0.deb ->
../../binary-all/devel/kernel-headers-2.0.6_2.0.6-0.deb
  lrwxrwxrwx1 rickm 54 Jul 23 05:30
kernel-source-2.0.6_2.0.6-0.deb ->
../../binary-all/devel/kernel-source-2.0.6_2.0.6-0.deb

Where is 2.0.23, and what does it mean to say that 1.2 has it when rex
doesn't?

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Re: ETA of the new X packages

[Tim Sailer]

In your email to me, Bruce Perens, you wrote:
> 
> > Any chance that 1.2 will have a recent kernel (like 2.0.23 or 2.0.24)? 
> > 2.0.24 has the big ping fix which I consider important, however I've 
> > heard some applications have problems with .24 due to a change in a 
> > network struct.
> 
> It currently has 2.0.23 (although I have not released a boot disk, the
> kernel package is there).
> 
> I'd like to hear more about what breaks with 2.0.24 .

I'm running .24 here at BNL, on my ISP machines, and at home. They are
all general configs, with X11. So far, nothing is broken. I had some
problems with snmp on buoy.com, but that seemed to clear up all by itself.

I would strongly urge the .24 kernel if nothing serious breaks, just
for the big ping fix, having experienced it firsthand.. :(

Tim

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Re: g77 & f2c serious problems

[David Gaudine]

On Thu, 7 Nov 1996, Arrigo Triulzi wrote:

>   I would greatly appreciate any information or patches. A bug
> report is in the process of being prepared for both the g77 developers
> and the f2c developers. Incidentally, should I send a bug report to
> the Debian developers too?

I should add that, in the unlikely event that -fno_automatic solves
your problem, you should send the bug report to the developers of your
source code.  -fno_automatic solves a problem that should not come up
with "correct" code.

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Re: g77 & f2c serious problems

[David Gaudine]

On Thu, 7 Nov 1996, Arrigo Triulzi wrote:

>   people here are having very serious problems with both g77 and
> f2c: the numbers which come out at the end are different from any
> other architecture we can lay our hands on, i.e. they have declared
> the boxes unfit for numerical calculations.
> 
>   This is a pretty major problem because the whole idea of
> getting Linux on fast PCs was to offload the main Unix boxes from
> jobs. Now the question is: am I the only one seeing this problem or is
> this a known problem which somehow doesn't make it on the READMEs and
> FAQs? I'd like to point out that where g77 is in alpha stage, f2c
> isn't and on other architectures is happily used and gives numerically
> consistent results with the native Fortran compilers.

The only problem I've had is that with one numbercrunching program (NEC)
I had to use g77's equivalent of the "-static" switch even though
"-static" isn't necessary with other compilers for that program.
I forget the exact syntax, g77 doesn't support "-static" by that name,
it's something like "-fno_automatic" (see the g77 info file section
on command line parameters.)

BTW, I put Linux on this PC for the same reason as you did, and it's
worked out quite well, especially since this PC is considerably
faster than our aging "main Unix boxes".



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Re: ETA of the new X packages

[Bruce Perens]

> Any chance that 1.2 will have a recent kernel (like 2.0.23 or 2.0.24)? 
> 2.0.24 has the big ping fix which I consider important, however I've 
> heard some applications have problems with .24 due to a change in a 
> network struct.

It currently has 2.0.23 (although I have not released a boot disk, the
kernel package is there).

I'd like to hear more about what breaks with 2.0.24 .

Thanks

Bruce

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netscape

[Marco Mariani]

Hi all!

Reading from linux-kernel, it seems that netscape crashes with the
libc 5.4.
Quoting from Alan Cox:



Unpack libc5.2.18 libc.so.5.2.18 into /usr/local/netscrap/lib. Move
netscape into /usr/local/netscrap/lib

Add a new script 'netscape' that does

export LD_PRELOAD=/usr/local/netscrap/lib/libc.so.5.2.18
exec /usr/local/netscrap/lib/netscape

Now only netscrap uses the old buggy library and you don't inflict it on
the rest of your machine.



Maybe the netscape package could provide this. Is it possible to have two
versions of the libc package at the same time, and use the older one for
netscape? Netscape should recommend libc-5.2.18 or libc-5.0.9, because with
these versions, its bugs are less evident.


All The Best,
 Marco

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Re: LaTeX cannot find Greek characters

[Steve Dunham]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zebedee Mason) writes:

> LaTeX runs fine on all my documents apart from the fact that it cannot
> find the Greek alphabet resulting in some strange looking equations, I
> have included part of the log file and several days back tried the TeX
> newsgroup:

>  (nomenclature.tex
> Missing character: There is no ^^O in font cmmi12!
> Missing character: There is no u in font cmmi12!
> Missing character: There is no u in font cmmi12!
> Missing character: There is no = in font cmmi12!
> Missing character: There is no ^^W in font cmmi12!
> Missing character: There is no ^^O in font cmmi12!

I'm not a LaTeX user, but I see two possibilities here:
 1. Some font configuration file for LaTeX is corrupted. (.fd files)
 2. cmmi12.tfm is corrupted.

#2 is easy to check, run the following through plain TeX and see if it
works:

% start of file
This is a test: $\alpha\beta\gamma\epsilon$

\end
% end of file

If this doesn't work, replace cmmi12.tfm (either reinstall the Debian
package or delete the file and make a new one with metafont.)  If does
work replace LaTeX (whatever package the latex files come in).


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Re: ETA of the new X packages

[Dermot Bradley]

On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, Bruce Perens wrote:

> The code-freeze for 1.2 happens today.

Any chance that 1.2 will have a recent kernel (like 2.0.23 or 2.0.24)? 
2.0.24 has the big ping fix which I consider important, however I've 
heard some applications have problems with .24 due to a change in a 
network struct.

Dermot

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init problems

[edwalter]

I am still having problems with init.  My computer is up to date with
unstable.  sysvinit was one of the many things that got upgraded in a
flurry last week.  Now, programs that don't put themselves in the
background get killed before the gettys are started.  For example, the
software watchdog and slattach.  I have tried putting these in
/etc/init.d/ (in an appropriate format) and in /etc/rc.boot/.  In both
cases they get killed.  For watchdog, I am using the unmodified script
from the distribution, and it still doesn't work.  I have tried using
nohup, but this does not help.  Does anyone have any suggestions.  If
not, I will have to downgrade sysvinit.

~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~

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Re: Netscape 3.01 libc5_5.4.7 crashes

[Brian C. White]

> > libc5_5.4.7-7 will be in the archive soon, and it includes the older
> > malloc as a seperate library for buggy software like netscape.  You'll
> > be able to run netscape like this:
> >
> > LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libgnumalloc.so netscape
> >
> > and java apps will work.
> >
> > The path might might not be correct above, but /usr/doc/libc5/FAQ.gz
> > will contain details.
> 
> So would the netscape maintainer *please* release a new netscape package
> with a script named netscape that does the above?

It's on my list of things to do.  It should get done this weekend.  (The
latest libc5 hasn't made it to my mirror yet.)
 
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Re: Netscape 3.01 libc5_5.4.7 crashes

[David Engel]

Guy Maor writes:
>   LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libgnumalloc.so netscape

That should be LD_PRELOAD=libgnumalloc.so.5 ...

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LaTeX cannot find Greek characters

[Zebedee Mason]

Dear all

LaTeX runs fine on all my documents apart from the fact that it cannot
find the Greek alphabet resulting in some strange looking equations, I
have included part of the log file and several days back tried the TeX
newsgroup:

LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for OML/cmm/m/it on input line 12.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 12.
LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for T1/cmr/m/n on input line 12.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 12.
LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for OT1/cmr/m/n on input line 12.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 12.
LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for OMS/cmsy/m/n on input line 12.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 12.
LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for OMX/cmex/m/n on input line 12.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 12.
LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for U/cmr/m/n on input line 12.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 12.
LaTeX Font Info:External font `cmex10' loaded for size
(Font)  <12> on input line 31.
LaTeX Font Info:External font `cmex10' loaded for size
(Font)  <8> on input line 31.
LaTeX Font Info:External font `cmex10' loaded for size
(Font)  <6> on input line 31.
 (nomenclature.tex
Missing character: There is no ^^O in font cmmi12!
Missing character: There is no u in font cmmi12!
Missing character: There is no u in font cmmi12!
Missing character: There is no = in font cmmi12!
Missing character: There is no ^^W in font cmmi12!
Missing character: There is no ^^O in font cmmi12!
.
.
.
.
etc.

Am pulling my hair out over this as I cannot make any sense of it.  BTW
this is Debian 1.1 from Infomagics September Linux Developers Resource.

Cheers

Zeb.
_

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University of Sussex, Falmer, Brighton, BN1 9QT, United Kingdom.
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Re: Installation via a modem?

[Le Tran]

>
>Yes! I've done it. Basically, all you need are the five installation disks
>*and* the ppp package which is only about 90k (which, in my opinion, should
>be given careful consideration about inclusion into the base disks, since it
>makes it easier to install all the other goodies through an ISP).
>

I agree. ppp should be included in the base package.

Le

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Re: Problems installing Tex,Latex, etc.

[Nick Busigin]

On Thu, 7 Nov 1996, Richard G. Roberto wrote:

> I'm new to Tex and Latex and would like to install it to learn
> more about it.  However, after getting my machine configured, I
> tried to do an "ftp" install.  This worked for the most part,
> except for a few packages that were in the Packages file but not
> on ftp.debian.org or ftp.caldera.com.  What really bit the dust
> was texbin and latex.  First, texbin choked on its postinstall
> script.  I checked and it wasn't even doing anything!  It gave an
> error 139.  But when I ran it by hand, everything worked fine.
> So, I changed the post-inst to just echo "I did this by hand",
> and dpkg --configure texbin worked fine.  I'm not sure this was a
> good idea though.  

Hmmm...  I ran into similar problems, although I didn't do an
ftp install.  Installing all the latest packages that texbin depends
on solved the above problem for me.  It looks like that worked for
you too.

> The next thing to install was latex.  This started going fine,
> but quickly filled up my disk with the latex.log file.  This was
> growing larger than 400mb!  I had to CTL-C out of it.  I wound up
> uninstalling latex and all related components (dselect kicks
> ass).

I ran into the same problem with the packages out of the stable area. 
What solved the problem for me was *not* including the cfg hyphenation
rules during the installation and configuration of the texlib package. 

Best regards,

 Nick

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Re: Reading news offline

[Nick Busigin]

On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Johann Spies wrote:

> Date: Tue, 5 Nov 96 15:35 SAT
> From: Johann Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Reading news offline
> Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:40:15 -0500 (EST)
> Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> 
> I have a dial-up connection to my ISP.
> 
> I want to be able to read the usergroups offline.  I have downloaded suck, 
> inn and inews and also trn.  After I have read their documentation and
> also the News-HOWTO, I still do not know how to do it.

Actually, for a small newsfeed I prefer CNews with the nntp package to
inn (but that's a personal preference).  If you have inn up and running
properly, don't bother changing it.

> I can read news with trn and gnus, but only while I am connected to the ISP.

Have you installed and configured your news server properly.  ie. While
connected to your isp, are you connecting with the isp's news server or
your own?  You can find this out by running the netstat command to see
which news server you are connected to.  For example, I am currently
reading news on my system using tin and downloading newsbatches from my
isp using suck.  Here's the (partial) output of the netstat command: 

$ netstat
Active Internet connections (w/o servers)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State
tcp  00   xwing.xwing.org:nntpxwing.xwing.org:1649  ESTABLISHED
tcp  00   xwing.xwing.org:1649xwing.xwing.org:nntp  ESTABLISHED
tcp  00   p2.radium.sentex.c:1648 flint.sentex.net:nntp ESTABLISHED

My newshost is xwing.xwing.org and my isp's newshost is flint.sentex.net.
The nntp connection to xwing.xwing.org is tin connecting to my system's
news server.  The nntp connection to flint.sentex.net is suck's connection
to my isp's news server.

If you are indeed connected to your own news server, then your problem is
just one of ip routing and loading the dummy module will let you connect
to your own news server even when you are not connected to your isp.
(That's what I do on my system).

> I tried out suck.  It made contact with the ISP's NNTP-server and did 
> nothing further but complaining about not finding a history-file.  When
> I use the -H (or is -h) option it stopped complaining but still 
> did nothing.

Make sure you have configured suck properly.  That means configuring files
in the /etc/suck directory and also possibly changing some paths in the
get-news script before it will work properly.  I recommend that you
"instrument" the get-news script by sticking in some echo statements to
print out the paths that the get-news program is using so you can ensure
they are correct.  I also had to adjust the filtering done by the put-news
script in order to be able to feed news batches back to my isp's news
server.

> How can I download the newsgroups I want to subscribe and read them on 
> my own system in my own time?  

You are on the right path.  You need to set up a news server and also 
suck.  You also have to have your IP routing set up properly too.

> It was a straight forward thing when I used Windows (even without reading
> a single bit of documentation).  After a few hours of reading and
> experimenting in Linux, I had no success and I do not even know which 
> road to travel.

A few hours is a very small investment in time.  Don't forget that when
you use Windows, you are using client software.  By using Linux and trying
to set up INN or CNews on your system, you are setting up a UNIX system
running news (and other) server software.  You are effectively setting up
a mini isp yourself and that is bound to require a greater investment of
your time. 

Best regards,

Nick

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Re: g77 & f2c serious problems

[Alex Romosan]

which version of f2c are you using? the last debian version 960717-0
is kind of old, and there is at least one bug in the 960717-0 version
which makes ishft fail miserably when dealing with signed integers.
this kind of messed up our random number generators big time. the f2c
maintainer was very responsive and fixed the bug the very same day i
reported it. i kind of given up on the debian version of f2c and i
roll my own packages (using the control files from the debian version,
of course). you can always find the latest f2c (non-debian) at
ftp://netlib.att.com/netlib/fortran. if you find any bugs in f2c
please report them promptly to the f2c maintainer. we are also trying
to use our linux boxes to run fortran programs, but there are still
some problems.

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installing debian 1.1

[Miguel Garcia Silvente]

I am trying to install Debian 1.1 on my system, I have a Adaptec 2840 SCSI card
and I tried to use several boot disks but none goes well (I get a problem
after recognize the disks). So, I have tried to use the kernel that I am using
with my linux, I have replaced the linux file of the boot disk with my vmlinuz
file and the I have done rdev linux /dev/fd0, the problem is that when I
put the root disk I get the message "Unable to mount root ...". I think it is
possible that I need the offset or something similar...

Can anybody help me?

Thanks in advance

Miguel
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g77 & f2c serious problems

[Arrigo Triulzi]

Hello all,

people here are having very serious problems with both g77 and
f2c: the numbers which come out at the end are different from any
other architecture we can lay our hands on, i.e. they have declared
the boxes unfit for numerical calculations.

This is a pretty major problem because the whole idea of
getting Linux on fast PCs was to offload the main Unix boxes from
jobs. Now the question is: am I the only one seeing this problem or is
this a known problem which somehow doesn't make it on the READMEs and
FAQs? I'd like to point out that where g77 is in alpha stage, f2c
isn't and on other architectures is happily used and gives numerically
consistent results with the native Fortran compilers.

I would greatly appreciate any information or patches. A bug
report is in the process of being prepared for both the g77 developers
and the f2c developers. Incidentally, should I send a bug report to
the Debian developers too?

Thanks,

Arrigo

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Re: Is this a virus?

[gremlin]

>if [ -x /root/.configure ]
>then
>  /root/.configure && rm -f /root/.configure && logout
>fi

>Is this not a security hole?

I don't think so. It is meant to let root choose a password, add one
user account (for people who usually won't do that and run their
system with user id root and start wondering when they accidently
delete their operating system) and run the 'dselect' program. For the
.configure gets erased, this only runs after you've installed the
mini-linux from the base floppy.

Be sure that noone is able to write to root's homedirectory (who would
give permission to that???), then you never get a virus-like
.configure script implanted.

Well, in my opinion, it would be better to replace the complete .login
instead of only deleting the .configure...


Best regards,
Rene

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Is this a virus?

[sanvila]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

After installing Debian, I found this in /root/.bash_profile:

[ ... ]

if [ -x /root/.configure ]
then
  /root/.configure && rm -f /root/.configure && logout
fi

[ ... ]

Is this not a security hole?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: 2.6.3i
Charset: latin1

iQCVAgUBMoG9EyqK7IlOjMLFAQEYcwP/SPr+mX9CRYR2SmpVyR5qVLZUD8M8wfCM
Fkw7Ek3/CX7F3yp9X42q4W02HtLd6J4jawYUE4jPY4FLpzvmJvu4oVYAh4H/nJgL
TKpqclAgL+TMdEnIHthE/ymp0ZcFhauKY+TMV85vUey/6rgPF6GGzUngwgdHUAiT
JO1QvfPN6Fk=
=wy6R
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Re: Netscape 3.01 libc5_5.4.7 crashes

[Herbert Xu]

Guy Maor wrote:
> 
> libc5_5.4.7-7 will be in the archive soon, and it includes the older
> malloc as a seperate library for buggy software like netscape.  You'll
> be able to run netscape like this:
> 
> LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libgnumalloc.so netscape
> 
> and java apps will work.
> 
> The path might might not be correct above, but /usr/doc/libc5/FAQ.gz
> will contain details.

So would the netscape maintainer *please* release a new netscape package
with a script named netscape that does the above?

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Re: rdist

[Herbert Xu]

Fundamental wrote:
> 
> Does debian have rdist or the equivalent program?  I checked the package
> finder and found nothing.

It's in my netstd 2.07-1.
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UUCP problems

[Lars Hallberg Micro++]

Hello

I have some problem with my UUCP. The line disconnects in the beginning of
the handshake. I have tried with another MYsystemNAME and then the remote
(ISP) side complains verbose that "You are unknown to me" so I'm apparently
using the right MYsystemNAME. Funny thing is that my ISP runs Linux (old hacked
and pached slackware) and Taylor UUCP. I don't know the version on my ISP's
UUCP but mine is Taylor 1.06.1. I have Linux kernel 2.0.0 installed from debian
1.1 (Pacific HiTech, Mo' Linux August 1996). I have purged and reinstalled
UUCP over FTP several times, The current package is:

>ii  uucp1.06.1-2   Unix to Unix Copy Program

I've struggled with this one for some while... Any tip would be appreciated.
How can I find out if it's me or my ISP that mess up? If you need more
information, please mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the debuging log
(logins and password replaced :-) from "uucico -x all -S ISPuucp". This
session is over TCP, it's the same result over modem... Note the nested
debugmessage where the error occurs (i added the > in the beginning of
every line). Also see the sys file below...

>uucico ISPuucp - (1996-11-06 20:51:55.81 1965) Calling system ISPuucp (port 
>TCP)
>uucico ISPuucp - (1996-11-06 20:51:56.32 1965) DEBUG: icexpect: Looking for 5 
>"ogin:"
>uucico ISPuucp - (1996-11-06 20:51:56.32 1965) DEBUG: icexpect: Got "login:" 
>(found it)
>uucico ISPuucp - (1996-11-06 20:52:01.76 1965) DEBUG: fcsend: Writing login 
>"UUCPlogin\r"
>uucico ISPuucp - (1996-11-06 20:52:01.77 1965) DEBUG: icexpect: Looking for 6 
>"sword:"
>uucico ISPuucp - (1996-11-06 20:52:01.77 1965) DEBUG: icexpect: Got " 
>Password:" (found it)
>uucico ISPuucp - (1996-11-06 20:52:02.26 1965) DEBUG: fcsend: Writing password 
>"MYpassword\r"
>uucico ISPuucp - (1996-11-06 20:52:02.27 1965) DEBUG: fcsend: Writing sleep 
>sleep sleep
>uucico ISPuucp - (1996-11-06 20:52:05.32 1965) DEBUG: zget_uucp_cmd: Got 
>"\020Shere=ISPuucp\000"
>uucico ISPuucp - (1996-11-06 20:52:05.36 1965) Login successful
>uucico ISPuucp - (1996-11-06 20:52:05.37 1965) DEBUG: fsend_uucp_cmd: Sending 
>"MYsystemNAME -R -N07"
>uucico ISPuucp - (1996-11-06 20:52:05.37 1965) DEBUG: fconn_write: Writing 18 
>"\020MYsystemNAME -R -N07\000"
>uucico ISPuucp - (1996-11-06 20:52:05.37 1965) DEBUG: zget_uucp_cmd: Got 
>"uucico ISPuucp - (1996-11-06 20:52:06.28 1965) ERROR: Line disconnected
>" (error)
>uucico ISPuucp - (1996-11-06 20:52:06.28 1965) DEBUG: fconn_close: Closing 
>connection
>uucico ISPuucp - (1996-11-06 20:52:06.28 1965) DEBUG: Call failed: 4 
>(Handshake failed)
>uucico - - (1996-11-06 20:52:06.30 1968) DEBUG: usysdep_detach: Forked; old 
>PID 1965, new pid 1968
>uucico - - (1996-11-06 20:52:06.41 1968) DEBUG: Forking /usr/sbin/uuxqt 
>-sISPuucp

And the sys file is edited the same way. I would prefer using the alias but have
of course tried the actual system name several times with the same result :(

># Permit local users to send any world readable file
>local-send /
>
># Permit local uses to request into any world writable directory
>local-receive /
>
># Call at any time
>time any
>
># call-timegrade 5 Wk0755-1805
>
># Now define the systems themselves.  Because of all the defaults we
># used, there is very little to specify for the systems themselves.
>
>system ISPuucp
>alias NICERname
>
>myname MYsystemNAME
>call-login UUCPlogin
>call-password MYpassword
>chat-timeout 250
>protocol tg
>
># First try the modem
>
>port type modem
>port device /dev/modem
>#port device /dev/ttyS1 # Tried these, same result
>#port device /dev/cua1
>port dialer hayes
>
>chat-timeout 120
>
># Tried without the three delays, same result...
>chat ogin:-\r\c-ogin:-\r\c-ogin: \L sword: \P "" \d\d\d\c
>
>protocol-parameter g timeout 20
>protocol-parameter g retries 10
>
>phone ISPphoneno1
>
>alternate
>
># Try the modem again, with different phone number
>
>chat \c \r\c ogin:-\r\c-ogin:-\r\c-ogin: \L sword: \P "" \d\d\d\c
>
>phone ISPphoneno2
>
>alternate
>
># If that fails, try TCP.
>
># The login name is different over TCP!
>call-login UUCPlogin
>
>protocol e
>
>chat ogin:-\r\c-ogin:-\r\c-ogin: \L sword: \P "" \d\d\d\c
>port type tcp
>port service 540
>address ISPuucpADDRESS

Fanx in advance

Sorry, hompage is, so far, only in swedish

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Re: Clock in error in NTP client env.

[Guy Maor]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ( WILLIAM M BURNS) writes:

> How does the CMOS clock affect the running system?  There must be 
> some program that reads to CMOS clock and then sets the UNIX clock to 
> the same value.

That program is clock(8).

> Is there a way to set the CMOS clock to the UNIX clock without bring 
> down the system?

clock -w -u

> Are there even two clocks(UNIX and CMOS)?

Yes.

> I have had several people suggest for me to verify the time zone 
> definations.  How is that done?

Run /usr/sbin/tzconfig as root

Explicit instructions to set the time correctly once and forever:

0. Read the manpages for clock(8) and date(1) so you know what you're doing.
1. Set the timezone with tzconfig.
2. Set the time with date.
3. Type "clock -wu" to set cmos clock to GMT.
4. In the beginning of /etc/init.d/boot set the variable "GMT=-u".


Guy

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Re: Netscape 3.01 libc5_5.4.7 crashes

[Guy Maor]

Rick Macdonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I know this was discussed just recently. It seems the options
> are to disable Java in Netscape or downgrade to an older libc.
> Are there other options?

libc5_5.4.7-7 will be in the archive soon, and it includes the older
malloc as a seperate library for buggy software like netscape.  You'll
be able to run netscape like this:

LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libgnumalloc.so netscape

and java apps will work.

The path might might not be correct above, but /usr/doc/libc5/FAQ.gz
will contain details.


Guy

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Problems installing Tex,Latex, etc.

[Richard G. Roberto]

Hello,

I'm new to Tex and Latex and would like to install it to learn
more about it.  However, after getting my machine configured, I
tried to do an "ftp" install.  This worked for the most part,
except for a few packages that were in the Packages file but not
on ftp.debian.org or ftp.caldera.com.  What really bit the dust
was texbin and latex.  First, texbin choked on its postinstall
script.  I checked and it wasn't even doing anything!  It gave an
error 139.  But when I ran it by hand, everything worked fine.
So, I changed the post-inst to just echo "I did this by hand",
and dpkg --configure texbin worked fine.  I'm not sure this was a
good idea though.  

The next thing to install was latex.  This started going fine,
but quickly filled up my disk with the latex.log file.  This was
growing larger than 400mb!  I had to CTL-C out of it.  I wound up
uninstalling latex and all related components (dselect kicks
ass).

I got this stuff from stable.  Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Clock in error in NTP client env.

[Larry 'Daffy' Daffner]

WILLIAM M BURNS writes:
-> How does the CMOS clock affect the running system?  There must be 
-> some program that reads to CMOS clock and then sets the UNIX clock to 
-> the same value.

The kernel clock is set from the CMOS clock at boot time through the
clock program. Usually, it is not referred to afterwards.

-> Is there a way to set the CMOS clock to the UNIX clock without bring 
-> down the system?

clock -w will write the current unix time to the CMOS clock.  Make
sure to include the -u flag if your CMOS clock is set to UTC.

-Larry

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rdist

[Fundamental]

Does debian have rdist or the equivalent program?  I checked the package
finder and found nothing.

Thanks:)

Sahua,

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Name Server

[M. Filizzi]

I finaly got ppp working but now I can't get it to telnet anywhere except
for the places in /etc/hosts file, I did set the DNS in the resolv.conf
and  well it still wouln't let me go to anywhere else... it wouln't let me
view web pages other then the ones at those places... and it's the same
with ftp... any suggestions?

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Netscape 3.01 libc5_5.4.7 crashes

[Rick Macdonald]

My installation is up-to-date with unstable.
Since I installed libc5_5.4.7 (and Netscape 3.01), Netscape almost
always crashes on this page:

   http://www.amdahl.com

probably because of the Java Applet.

I know this was discussed just recently. It seems the options
are to disable Java in Netscape or downgrade to an older libc.
Are there other options?

Some questions:

1) If I downgrade to an older libc, what happens to other packages
that depend on newer libc versions?

2) Doesn't Debian 1.2, just frozen the other day, contain this
libc version? With all the complaints with libc, isn't 1.2 bound
to be poorly received?

...RickM...

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Re: Clock in error in NTP client env.

[WILLIAM M BURNS]

How does the CMOS clock affect the running system?  There must be 
some program that reads to CMOS clock and then sets the UNIX clock to 
the same value.

Is there a way to set the CMOS clock to the UNIX clock without bring 
down the system?

Are there even two clocks(UNIX and CMOS)?

I have had several people suggest for me to verify the time zone 
definations.  How is that done?

Thanks.

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Re: XFree86 3.2 is available

[Shaya Potter]

XFree 3.2 will not be realeased in 1.2.  However it should be uploaded 
into unstable (bo) very soon so if you want to use it you will be able to 
download it.  The reason it is not going to be included is that the 
maintainer didn't think that it would be fit to go out with 11.2 b/c he 
was going to a new packaging scheme and he wants to make sure everything 
works.

Shaya
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On Wed, 6 Nov 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > "Paul" == Paul Seelig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Paul> On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, Bill Bumgarner wrote:
> >> The 3.2 release of XFree86 is available in source and binary
> >> form; among many other very cool features, it now includes a
> >> GRAPHICAL setup utility
> >> 
> Paul> Now i just hope that Debian-1.2 will not be released before
> Paul> there isn't a decent XFree86-3.2 package included. But maybe
> Paul> i'm asking for too much...
> 
> I agree.  Setting up XFree86 was by far the most difficult part of my
> original Linux setup.  With each new distribution I have tried using
> the configuration programs provided but have always retreated to my
> original XF86Config files.  For a new user I think that an interactive
> graphical setup program would be a very important feature.
> 
> Nathan
> 
> 
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Re: cleaning up kernel source

[Shaya Potter]

What I usually delete is all the alpha/spark/m68k etc stuff that is never 
going to b used on my 486 system.  This should cut down a little on the 
size.  However, if you run a patch  on the kerenl, some parts might say 
that some files are missing, you should just tell patch to skip those 
files, you don't need them they are for the alpha/sparc/m68k etc ports of 
linux.

Hope this helps,
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On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, David Morris wrote:

> OK, I downloaded the source for the 2.0.24 kernel and compiled a custom 
> kernel 
> yesterday. And now I have the tree leftover taking up 30M on my hard drive. 
> And I was wondering what I can clean up to free up the space.
> 
> I know I can run a make clean to remove the *.o files and other compiling 
> files, but that would still leave quite a bit leftover.
> 
> I am tempted to rm -r the whole tree (which I have done previously), but I 
> see 
> the Documentation that I might want to keep some things handy (like the 
> documentation). So what do I do with all the include files? should I copy 
> them 
> all over to the /usr/include directory? and do I want to leave something 
> hanging around /usr/src/linux?
> 
> Thanks in advance for your assistance. 
> 
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Re: Can we have "trial installations" in Debian?

[Joey Hess]

> Basically, this would entail archiving up all of the binaries, configuration
> files, as well as whole directories that are likely to contain accumulated
> data (like the digests for Majordomo... or maybe the logs for Apache, etc.).
> 
> Perhaps, it would easiest to make a utility that could generate a bona-fide
> Debian "package" that would contain all of the files that came with the
> original... only this package would capture them in the state they were in
> when the upgrade happened. So, if you tried to install Apache 1.1 over
> Apache 1.05 in "easy revert" mode, then the system would save the binaries
> and config files in, say,
> 
> /var/safetycopy/apache-1.05.safety.deb
> 
> Is anyone pursuing any ideas like this?

Yep. Take a look at my dpkg-repack package:

Package: dpkg-repack
Status: install ok installed
Installed-Size: 17
Maintainer: Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Version: 0.1
Depends: perl
Description: attempts to put an unpacked .deb file back together
 dpkg-repack tries to create a .deb file out of a debian package
 that has already been installed. If any changes have been made to
 the package while it was unpacked (ie, files in /etc were modified),
 the new package will inherit the changes.
 .
 When it works, this utility can make it easy to copy packages
 from one computer to another, or to recreate packages that are
 installed on your system, but no longer available elsewhere.

I've placed dpkg-repack in experimental for now, because it hasn't had
much tsting yet. But I have successfully used it with some packages.

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Can we have "trial installations" in Debian?

[Joe Emenaker]

I was trying to upgrade Apache to the latest version in /unstable the
other day. It ended up dumping core every time I tried to get anything
from it. I eventualy reverted back to the old one by "installing" a 
previous version. However, this had a bad side effect:

The new version moved a lot of the files and directories, and the previous
version of the package didn't know to look there. So, after downgrading 
to the stable package, all of my pages were the "Welcome to your new
web site" deal. I eventually found the problems and fixed them, but it
got me thinking

It would be nice if, when upgrading a package that required a lot of
configuration (say, Apache, or Majordomo etc...), I could indicate that
I wanted the existing installation tarred up and held in some holding tank
(probably in /var). Then, if the new installation goes wacko, I can always
bail out and revert to the previous working version.

Basically, this would entail archiving up all of the binaries, configuration
files, as well as whole directories that are likely to contain accumulated
data (like the digests for Majordomo... or maybe the logs for Apache, etc.).

Perhaps, it would easiest to make a utility that could generate a bona-fide
Debian "package" that would contain all of the files that came with the
original... only this package would capture them in the state they were in
when the upgrade happened. So, if you tried to install Apache 1.1 over
Apache 1.05 in "easy revert" mode, then the system would save the binaries
and config files in, say,

/var/safetycopy/apache-1.05.safety.deb

Is anyone pursuing any ideas like this?

- Joe

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Re: Installation via a modem?

[Joe Emenaker]

> 
> Is installation possible over a modem via an ISP?

Yes! I've done it. Basically, all you need are the five installation disks
*and* the ppp package which is only about 90k (which, in my opinion, should
be given careful consideration about inclusion into the base disks, since it
makes it easier to install all the other goodies through an ISP).

Once you install the ppp package, you need to tinker with the option file
in /etc/ppp a little. Then, once you're connected, you can use dselect to 
use ftp to ftp.debian.org to fetch the latest list of packages and select and
download the ones you pick.

It really worked great for me.

- Joe

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Re: Xbase Installation Problems

[Bernd Eckenfels]

Hi,

> I think I found the cpp package but haven't been able to locate the
> elf-x11r6lib package.  Can anyone clue me on on where it might be found
> exactly?  I've already taken a look around the Debian.org site but didn't
> find it.

The Package is called xlib. Why dont you simply use dselect with the ftp
method for that? It will prompt you for all the dependencies.

> I also looked in the XFree86 web site and was wondering if the binaries
> listed there for their 3.2 version would work with the Debian system.

You may be able to replace some installed Programs (like the X-Server) with
new 3.2 binaries. But if you arent experienced with X11
Administration/Installation youshould not do that.

> Can
> anyone tell me if this will work as the alternative?  Do you still use dpkg
> or dselect to get it installed?

No. You will need to copy those files by hand. This will probably produce a
broken setup and dpkg will be unable to upgrade. Simply wait a few days if
youneed 3.2, and it will be available as a debian package. But if youonly
want to get it work, thaen just install the xlib with deselect.

Greetings
Bernd

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Xbase Installation Problems

[Dennis]

Hi All!

I've finally got my basic Debian 1.1 system installed (many thanks to those
who gave me some hints when I got stuck) and was trying to install X Windows
on it.

Downloaded the xbase-3.deb file and got it onto my system.  When I ran the
dpkg program I got the response that I needed both the elf-x11r6lib package
and the cpp package first.  

I think I found the cpp package but haven't been able to locate the
elf-x11r6lib package.  Can anyone clue me on on where it might be found
exactly?  I've already taken a look around the Debian.org site but didn't
find it.

I also looked in the XFree86 web site and was wondering if the binaries
listed there for their 3.2 version would work with the Debian system.  Can
anyone tell me if this will work as the alternative?  Do you still use dpkg
or dselect to get it installed?

Thanks in advance!

Dennis


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