making dpkg on non-debian systems

1996-11-13 Thread Marty Leisner

What the value of ARCHITECTURE I need?

I tried building dpkg-1.2.[6,11] on slackware systems, and 
configure failed to pick a good ARCHITECTURE?

Shouldn't this build on vanilla Unix systems?

Also, what documentation should I read about handling .deb files
as an experienced tar user?


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Re: JDK

1996-11-13 Thread Fabien Ninoles
On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Evan Thomas wrote:

 kazem wrote:
  
  Is anybody can help describe me how i can install JDK in my
  box. Or if there is a package for it.
  
 As far as I know there is no Debian package. You can download the Linux
 port from http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux.html. The site points to
 installation instructions. It installs in the /usr/local tree so it
 won't conflict with any Debian stuff.
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What about jdk-* in section devel? 

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Re: how to download in the background?

1996-11-13 Thread Boris D. Beletsky
Hi Grossjohann, You wrote:
 Grossjohann
 Grossjohann This does ftp but not http.

oh sorry didn't understand - 'lynx -dump  file ' should do the trick

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Re: make-kpkg failed

1996-11-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,

I am baffled.  I am not aware of anything in kernel-package
 scripts that needs a display to run. I am running a 2.0.25 built
 exactly the same way, except:
 1) I used the latest kernel-package (3.02, I think)
 2) I did not use the -r option.

Could you please see if not using -rcustom makes a difference?


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Re: Lilo problem after kernel upgrade to 2.0.25

1996-11-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,

Umm, I made a bzImage, and my image boots just fine with
 LILO. 

manoj

Bryn == Bryn Paul Arnold Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Bryn On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, Dermot Bradley wrote:
  LILO Loading linux Wrong loader, giving up...
 
 I've never seen this error before. Rebooting and picking the older
 kernel from Lilo works okay.
 

Bryn You did build a zImage didn't you, I think you'll get this
Bryn message from LILO if you try to boot a bzImage.


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Re: Hylafax packages?

1996-11-13 Thread Christoph Lameter
Dermot Bradley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Craig Sanders wrote:
: 
:  You mentioned that one of your hylafax packages conflicts with mgetty - are
:  you working on fixing that?
: 
: It has been suggested that I use diversions to handle the conflict. 
: Anyone got a example of a diversion?

Its in the debian manual under diversion. If you use debmake then it will
do it for you.

BTW I have split up mgetty. You can simply conflict with mgetty-fax now.
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Re: DOSEmulator for linux

1996-11-13 Thread Paul Seelig
On Tue, 12 Nov 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was just wondering if any of you out there had installed this on
 your linux boxes.

Yes, works wonderful here!
 
  Compile Begins 
 make[1]: *** No rule to make target '/usr/Makefile', needed by 
 'include/kversion.h'.  Stop.
 make[1]: Leaving directory '/root/dosemu/dosemu-0.64.0/src'
 Make: *** [default] Error 2
 
 That's it...no matter what I do, I can't get it to compile *shrug*
 
Do you have the kernel sources installed on your system? The compilation
of DOSEMU depends upon their header files.
  Regards, P. *8^)
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Re: Linux and SoundBlaster

1996-11-13 Thread Rob Browning
Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 For just playing CD's, you don't necessarily
 need to do all this if your CDROM is already recognized.  In
 that case, the program 'workbone' will play CD's for you.  One
 problem may be the default volume level of your sound card.

Also don't forget that to play audio CD's you need a patch cable
running from your CD-ROM to your sound card.

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Suspend to Disk Support on Winbook XP5 Laptop

1996-11-13 Thread Martin Gallant
Does Debian-1.1.13 support suspend to disk functionality on laptops?
Whenever I resume from disk, all my network routes are deleted.  This
worked fine in a previous life running Red Hat.

Is there something I need to tweak?  Where should I look?
BTW, I have manually upgraded to kernel 2.0.23 and PCMCIA 2.8.21.
APM support is turned on in the kernel.


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Automounter troubles

1996-11-13 Thread Stan Brown

In an attempt to fix my automnter troubles (amd'd directories
habg after time). I downlaode the latest amd binary from unstable, as
some kind soul sugested. 

Wehn I installed it I got a message to the effect that there are
new config files and it would convert my old ones for me. Well that didn't
work, so I tried the new configuration tool for amd. It created some files
for me as follows:

amd.master
---
-a /amd -r /net /etc/amd/amd.net 

amd.net
---
/defaults fs:=${autodir}/${rhost}/root/${rfs}
*   rhost:=${key};type=host;rfs:=/

configure

LOGFILE=syslog

Yet when I run adm here is waht I get

Script started on Tue Nov 12 20:27:47 1996
$ amd
Nov 12 20:27:50 yogi amd[267]/info:  My ip addr is 0x17f
Nov 12 20:27:50 yogi amd[268]/info:  file server localhost type local starts up
$ Nov 12 20:27:50 yogi amd[268]/fatal: No work to do - quitting
Nov 12 20:27:50 yogi amd[268]/info:  Finishing with status 0


Script done on Tue Nov 12 20:27:53 1996

Can anyone give me a clue how to make this work?

What I want is really very simple, I wan to be able to access all
exported filesystems on all machines on the local network as
/net/(machine_name)

Any help would be greatly appreciated

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Re: JDK

1996-11-13 Thread Lawrence Chim
   Is anybody can help describe me how i can install JDK in my
   box. Or if there is a package for it.
   
  As far as I know there is no Debian package. You can download the Linux
  port from http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux.html. The site points to
  installation instructions. It installs in the /usr/local tree so it
  won't conflict with any Debian stuff.
 
   Actually there is a deb package for it.  If I remember correctly it's at
 ftp.debian.org in the non-free directory.  
 
 

but it is 1.01, rather than 1.02


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Summary: Re: memory over 64Meg

1996-11-13 Thread Rob Ransbottom



On Sun, 10 Nov 1996, Rob Ransbottom wrote:

 I have just upgraded to 80Megs from 32Megs on a ASUS PCI/I-P54TP4 board
 running Debian 1.1 (stable).  free(1) only sees 64megs. 

Thanks for the help.

The answer is use the mem=80M parameter to the kernel.
More info is in the boot HOWTO.A

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Mounting of Sun filesystem disk

1996-11-13 Thread John Roesch

I have an old Sun workstation that has some hardware problems but I need   
a couple of files from the hard disk.  Will Linux recognize the Sun's   
file structure?  If so, what is the file structure?

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Re: JDK

1996-11-13 Thread David Engel
Evan Thomas writes:
 kazem wrote:
  Is anybody can help describe me how i can install JDK in my
  box. Or if there is a package for it.
  
 As far as I know there is no Debian package. You can download the Linux
 port from http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux.html. The site points to
 installation instructions. It installs in the /usr/local tree so it
 won't conflict with any Debian stuff.

JDK v1.0.1 has been available for some time.  Search for jdk*.  I
mailed the maintiner about upgrading it to v1.0.2, but I never got a
reply.

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Problem with mgetty's faxspool?

1996-11-13 Thread Joe Emenaker

I was tinkering around with mgetty's fax scripts and came across something
wierd.

When I use faxspool to spool up a fax, it generates a file called JOB
in the /var/spool/fax/outgoing tree which describes the job (who spooled 
it, what the original file is, what g3 files to send, recent status 
messages, etc.). However, the JOB file has no linefeeds in it... which
causes faxrunq (which uses awk to parse the JOB file) to freak.

I traced the problem to a line in the faxspool script in /usr/sbin 
where the script sets the value of the echo variable. The idea was
to set echo to the proper command line to /bin/echo that would 
enable escaped chars (otherwise know as trigraphs: '\n', '\r', '\t', etc).
Well, instead of setting the echo variable to echo -e like it should
have been, it was set to echo -n which turns OFF the trailing linefeed.
I chenged the echo -n to echo -e and it works great now.

So, why am I telling everyone of my woes? Well, I hadn't modified any of my
fax scripts up to this point... which would indicate to me that mgetty
is *shipping* this way. Now, keep in mind that I'm using the package
found in stable, so this might have been fixed already. I guess my
question is: has *ANYONE* been able to successfully use faxspool from
the stock stable mgetty in the buzz distribution?

- Joe

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Re: DOSEmulator for linux

1996-11-13 Thread Adam Heath

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 From: Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: DOSEmulator for linux
 Date: Tuesday, November 12, 1996 7:44 PM
 
 On Tue, 12 Nov 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I was just wondering if any of you out there had installed this on
  your linux boxes.
 
 Yes, works wonderful here!
  
   Compile Begins 
  make[1]: *** No rule to make target '/usr/Makefile', needed by
'include/kversion.h'.  Stop.
  make[1]: Leaving directory '/root/dosemu/dosemu-0.64.0/src'
  Make: *** [default] Error 2
  
  That's it...no matter what I do, I can't get it to compile *shrug*
  
 Do you have the kernel sources installed on your system? The compilation
 of DOSEMU depends upon their header files.
   Regards, P. *8^)

I have this same problem to.  And I installed kernel-headers 2.0.6,
kernel-source 2.0.6, then I manually untarred the kernel source for 2.0.24.
 And I still get the problem.

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Re: DOSEmulator for linux

1996-11-13 Thread Paul Seelig
On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Adam Heath wrote:
 
 I have this same problem to.  And I installed kernel-headers 2.0.6,
 kernel-source 2.0.6, then I manually untarred the kernel source for 2.0.24.
  And I still get the problem.
 
Do you have then kernel sources installed as outlined in the accompanying
README by Linus? Links and all correct? If yes, then run compilation of
your kernel once (no install needed) without doing 'make clean' and then
try again with DOSEMU compilation. That's what i had to do to get
everything going. 
  P. *8^)
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Re: How do I make xautolock run all the time?

1996-11-13 Thread Philippe Troin

On Tue, 12 Nov 1996 08:18:24 EST Kevin McEnhill ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 wrote:

 Howdy,
 
 I have xautolock and xlock and I am tring to get xautolock to restart
 after xlock finishes. Should I do this in a shell script or is there a
 way to deamonize xautolock?

Xautolock should ``daemonize'' itself. That is once one unlocks the 
terminal, it should re-lock it after n minutes. Do you have any 
special Xautolock resources ?

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Re: xconsole stops logging

1996-11-13 Thread Herbert Xu
Pete Templin wrote:
 
 On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, Luis Francisco Gonzalez wrote:
 
  I have noticed that xconsolo stops logging any kernel messages when the 
  daily
  cron scripts get run and the current /var/log/messages file gets renamed to
  /var/log/messages.0 and a new one gets created. Is this something normal or
  is there anything I am doing wrong?
 
 It's probably still logging to the file that has become *.0 .  I'd suggest
 writing a script to kill -HUP  any processes which access those
 (rotated) log files.  The kill just asks the xconsole to close whatever
 log files it has open and reopen its log file by name, thereby releasing
 its hold on the renamed file.

Alas that won't work.  See bug #3751 and my patch.  Though I no longer
use
xconsole as it keeps growing unless you kill it.  Right now I have a
simple
C program that resembles tail but reopens the fifo when the other side
reopens
it.  This in addition to a simple script and xterm replaces the
functionality of
xconsole nicely.
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Re: pgp

1996-11-13 Thread M. Filizzi
Sorry I did that by accident... I tryed sending a message saying that I
couldn't figure out how to do that kind of stuff... and well I don't know
how I did that... I grabed the pgp stuff and was trying to figure it
out... sorry...
so Far all I can't figure out is how to add keys to my public key ring...

one more time... Sorry...

Fizz

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   Why are you sending encrypted messages thru a mailing list?  Wouldn't
 private email be a better choice?
 
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any tcp/ip meter?

1996-11-13 Thread Lawrence Chim
is there any program to display the bps of each socket/port?
I have tried the pppstats and it only displayed the total bps.

lawrence,

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mgetty and ppp - cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP ?

1996-11-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am trying to connect two linux machines together with ppp. I have previously 
done this using vanilla getty and ppp started with login as special ppp-user, 
which starts pppd as login shell. The calling machine is connected to the 
internet, called machine has a small local ethernet network.
At the moment I don't connect these two networks together, just these two 
machines (ie. no routing outside these two machines is done)

Now I try to use mgetty and it's automatic /autoPPP/. I get the connection, 
pppd:s start up, but I get this cannot determine ethernet address for proxy 
ARP error message from pppd (in the called machine). Netstat (and route) 
shows, that the single route to the calling machine is through ppp device. But 
all the ip-packets get lost.

And do am I. Any (non)trivial things, that I simply don't understand ?

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Mail server for MIME supported MUA's

1996-11-13 Thread Carl Greco
I am setting up a Debian Linux e-mail server for a small Windows for
Workgroups based LAN and need to use a MIME capable agent like pine.
Pine uses Internet Message Access Protocol (IMAP) instead of POP to
transfer mail to WfWg clients.  IMAP is available as a (non-free)
debian packages and pine clients software is available at University
of Washington (ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine).

1. I have had some experience with POP (and WfWg based MUA's) but not
with IMAP.  Are there any special precautions or concerns with IMAP
and/or pc-pine?

2. The pine/IMAP combination is the only one that I have found that
provides MIME capability in this setting.  Am I overlooking others?

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Solved: make-kpkg failed (- StarOffice install)

1996-11-13 Thread schulte
Hi,

thanks to all who answered to my make-kpkg failure: yes, there should
be no display. And yes, there is another install.

I accidwntally found the solution reading some StarOffice newsgroup. One guy 
complained the existence of an install binary in the /usr/local/StarOffice 
hierarchy (under linux-x86/bin), being number one in the PATH environment... 
So which install points to this binary. 

That, was it. I had installed StarOffice Beta2 the week before. Renaming
install to so_install solved it. 2.0.25 now compiles and works fine.

Bye  KWS

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Re: socket permission problems

1996-11-13 Thread Hamish Moffatt
  rlogin to another host gives rmcd: socket: permission denied
  Works fine for root.
  
  On starting X, I get the grey background, but no windows;
  I kill it, and it's been trying to connect to a socket
  and getting connection refused, errno = 13.
  Again, works fine for root.
 
 is /usr/bin/rlogin and /usr/bin/X11/X SUID root?

No, but should they be, and why would they suddenly change?
Especially since X is XFree 3.1.2G beta (which I installed
over the top of the binary from the 3.1.2 package).
Or could this be due to some sort of filesystem error,
like when I accidentally switched the machine off
without shutting down a few days back? :-) Ooops.



thanks,
Hamish

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Re: socket permission problems

1996-11-13 Thread Hamish Moffatt
  rlogin to another host gives rmcd: socket: permission denied
  Works fine for root.
  
  On starting X, I get the grey background, but no windows;
  I kill it, and it's been trying to connect to a socket
  and getting connection refused, errno = 13.
  Again, works fine for root.
 
 is /usr/bin/rlogin and /usr/bin/X11/X SUID root?

Actually, X is indeed SUID root. rlogin now is and is now fixed, thanks.
Still no go on X though.

hamish

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urgent question : can't map /lib/libc

1996-11-13 Thread Lawrence Chim
I don't know why after my linux always displays
  can't map /lib/libc
after few hours run and I have to reboot my linux
box.

anyone know why?  is it ld.so problem??

the only things I did was that I upgrade ld.so to
1.8.x from 1.7.x


lawrence,

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X problems solved

1996-11-13 Thread Hamish Moffatt
Fixed my X problem; the permissions on /tmp had become stuffed
(only read/write/execute for root). Removing /tmp and reinstalling
base fixed this. Seems I got quite a lot of permissions problems
recently due to unclean shutdown.

Mind you, even if I have no improper shutdowns between
two forced fulll checks with e2fsck on boot,
I still get a few deleted inodes, which isn't too healthy?


hamish

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Re: pgp

1996-11-13 Thread J.H.M.Dassen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

Lars wrote:
 To sign e-mail by hand, you should save the text into a file,
 say foo, and then run PGP with the -sta options:
[example deleted]

You can do this from inside an editor too; for VIM, select the body
(shift-V) and do
!pgp -fast
(pgp as [f]ilter; [a]scii [s]ign [t]ext)

On our Sun systems, we have two versions of vim,
with 4.2, you don't get too see pgp's prompt for the passphrase, and
  pgp's stderr output is captured by the pipe too;
with 3.0, you get too see pgp's prompt, and the pipe command doesn't
  capture stderr. 

Stuart, I like 3.0's behaviour better. Can this be configured with 4.x
somehow?

 A better way is to use a mailer that understands PGP. I don't know
 how well elm can do that. I use exmh myself. exmh is excellent.

Basic elm can't. Our elm includes an old PGP patch; the current version
is available at ftp://ftp.tik.ee.ethz.ch/pub/packages/elm-pgp .
elm-2.4ME+ (an elm derivative with numerous features) supports PGP too
(ftp://dionysos.fmi.fi/KEH).

Greetings,
Ray

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XFree and GD7543

1996-11-13 Thread Johan Allard
Hello,

I cant get my Cirrus Logic GD7543 Chip work in 800x600 resolution in Xfree
3.12. Anyone have any ideas? I had to tell Xfree I was running a clgd5424
chip to get it to work at all.

//johan

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Re: how to download in the background?

1996-11-13 Thread Lawrence Chim
Thanks for all guys sent me mails.

I found that the most easy command is

  GET http://xxx.xxx.xxx/www/zzz/abc.zip  abc.zip 

lawrence,

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Re: XFree and GD7543

1996-11-13 Thread Zlatko Rek
Hi,

 Hello,
 
 I cant get my Cirrus Logic GD7543 Chip work in 800x600 resolution in Xfree
 3.12. Anyone have any ideas? I had to tell Xfree I was running a clgd5424
 chip to get it to work at all.
 
 //johan
 
Get XF86_SVGA server with cl7543 driver from:
   http://HTTP.CS.Berkeley.EDU/~eanders/linux/

Regards.
Zlatko

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Re: Is `.deb' still better than `.rpm'?

1996-11-13 Thread Martin Konold
On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Kevin K. Lewis wrote:

 A la GLINT, I suppose, though I've never seen it.  I think it would be
 fun to work on something like this.  Maybe Debian could just use GLINT
 and massage the backend (and add stuff for the additional Debian
 package features).

Can GLINT be used without X11 and without python?

I would like to be able to install packages on stand alone systems
without X11

Yours,
-- martin

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Re: mgetty and ppp - cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP ?

1996-11-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, it worked. I have tried to find the reason for a week now, and 2 hours 
after I write to ask it, I find that I do havea  proxyarp command in my 
ppp/options file. Sorry for the wasted bandwidth.

Jouni

 I am trying to connect two linux machines together with ppp. I have 
previously
 done this using vanilla getty and ppp started with login as special ppp-user, 
 which starts pppd as login shell. The calling machine is connected to the 
 internet, called machine has a small local ethernet network.
 At the moment I don't connect these two networks together, just these two 
 machines (ie. no routing outside these two machines is done)
 
 Now I try to use mgetty and it's automatic /autoPPP/. I get the connection, 
 pppd:s start up, but I get this cannot determine ethernet address for proxy 
 ARP error message from pppd (in the called machine). Netstat (and route) 
 shows, that the single route to the calling machine is through ppp device. 
 But 
 all the ip-packets get lost.
 
 And do am I. Any (non)trivial things, that I simply don't understand ?
 


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Re: pgp

1996-11-13 Thread Ezio Manini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Lars Wirzenius wrote:

 A better way is to use a mailer that understands PGP. I don't know
 how well elm can do that. I use exmh myself. exmh is excellent.

BTW I use pine and a shell tcsh script mkpgp1.6, it work fine.
Unfortunately don't know tchs sintax well ( reguraly bash use).
Would anybody offer for translate it in bash and debianize it?
You could find to:
http://www.piw.it/users/ezio/mkpgp1.6.gz

~ 9 kb.

TIA. 

Bye, Ezio   Escape the Gates of Hells, use Linux! ***
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debian+emacs problem

1996-11-13 Thread Marco Prandini
Hello,
I'm a sysadm at a Civic Network in Italy.

I got a problem with emacs 19.31-2 installed with Debian 1.1.4.
When I edit long lines reactions become unpredictable: sometimes
it works well, other times it truncates the line or melts it with
the surrounding lines.

I've tried to install emacs binaries 19.29, .30 and .32 but the
problem remains. 
Have you ever heard about this? Do you know if it is due to other
components, such as ncurses? ... Do you know a solution ?  

Thank you very much,
Marco Prandini.

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Re: Is `.deb' still better than `.rpm'?

1996-11-13 Thread Paul Seelig
On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Martin Konold wrote:
 
 I would like to be able to install packages on stand alone systems
 without X11

I second that! I'd prefer it the way 'dselect' already is working on the
console and in an xterm under X11. A GUI oriented installation tool is a
waste of CPU time, memory, disk space and man power (regarding it's
development) and would probably have no more functionality than good
looks. It's one of the few downs on the part of RedHat to have an X11
installation tool, providing only the command line RPM for the console.
This was one of the negative reasons not to choose RedHat BTW. Although
the present 'dselect' is not cause for joy either...
P. *8^)
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CD-ROM IRQ Timeout

1996-11-13 Thread Alec Clews (S)

Deal All,

I am installing Debian 1.1 from the Infomagic Sept 96 Developers Resource. 
My platform is a  Compaq Deskpro 2000 5100.

I can read the CD-ROM fine under DOS and copy and untar
gcc

However after booting debian and when trying to install packages I get
lots of

'hdb irq timeout : status = 0x58
hdb ATAPI reset complete'

It still seems to be able to install some/all? packages, but I don't know 
how reliable it is and it does take a long time.

Has any one seen this before please?

The information from the compaq diag package is below in case that helps

Thanks

Regards,
Alec
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IntelliSafe Status:
  Disk Controller 1, Hard Drive 1: . . .  OK

MSCDEX Driver Version  . . . . . . . . .  2.95

A: Diskette Drive  . . . . . . . . . . .  1.44 MB (3.5 inch)
C: Hard Drive  . . . . . . . . . . . . .   808 MB ( 324 MB Free)
D: CD-ROM Drive

Disk Controller  . . . . . . . . . . . .  1
  Hard Drive 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . .  Type  65 (1081.7 Megabyte)
Model Number . . . . . . . . . . . .
Serial Number  . . . . . . . . . . .
Cylinders  . . . . . . . . . . . . .  524
Heads  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  64
Sectors per Track  . . . . . . . . .  63

Is on-board bootable SCSI supported  . .  No
Does BIOS support hard drive DMA . . . .  No
Does system support enhanced IDE DMA . .  No
Does ROM have CD-ROM boot support  . . .  Yes

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Re: debian+emacs problem

1996-11-13 Thread Martin Alonso Soto Jacome
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 I got a problem with emacs 19.31-2 installed with Debian 1.1.4. When 
 I edit long lines reactions become unpredictable: sometimes it works 
 well, other times it truncates the line or melts it with the 
 surrounding lines.

 I've tried to install emacs binaries 19.29, .30 and .32 but the 
 problem remains.  Have you ever heard about this? Do you know if it 
 is due to other components, such as ncurses? ... Do you know a 
 solution ?   

What kind of terminal are you using (X11, console, serial, etc)?  I have 
noticed similar problems when running emacs under (actual) vt220 and vt420 
terminals.  I finally traced down the thing to a problem with the terminals' 
tab hardware setup (tabs should be set to 8 character columns),

Hope this helps,

M. S.

Martin A. Soto J.   Profesor
Departamento de Ingenieria de Sistemas y Computacion
Universidad de los Andes  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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LILO Problem

1996-11-13 Thread Gary L. Hennigan
I just installed Debian Linux (the latest stable version from
debian.org) and now I'm having a problem with LILO. First, my setup:

1)P6 180MHz with integrated dual IDE controller on the motherboard.

2)1.6GB IDE disk, master on primary IDE (partitioned in 3 400MB
partitions, a 300MB partition and a 100MB Linux swap partition)
/dev/hda under Linux

3)8x IDE CDROM slave to 1.6GB disk on primary IDE

4)Adaptec 2940UW SCSI controller

5)2.0GB Wide SCSI disk (dedicated to linux with:
/dev/sda1   / (60MB)
/dev/sda2   /var  (350MB)
/dev/sda3   /usr  (1.19GB)
/dev/sda4   /home (400MB)

Currently Win95 boots just fine off the IDE drive and I can boot
Debian Linux off of floppy without trouble. What I'd like to do is
replace my MBR on /dev/hda with LILO and have LILO boot either win95
or linux. As best I can recall here's the configuration file I tried:

boot=/dev/hda
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
compact
prompt
timeout=50
default=win95
image=/vmlinuz
  root=/dev/sda1
  label=linux
  read-only
other=/dev/hda1
  loader=/boot/chain.b
  label=win95

When I tried this I just got a 01 pattern repeated endlessly on my
screen until I hit Ctrl+Alt+Del and booted Linux via floppy and
restored my MBR with dd. This happens before I see any type of boot
prompt.

My next shot is going to be to try the linear option, since
hda is assigned as an LBA device in my BIOS. Anyone know if this will
solve my problem? I didn't think this would be necessary since, once
I've booted Linux, it has no problem accessing any of the partitions
on hda and so I assumed the kernel could give LILO the proper
partition table, but my thinking may be flawed.

 The other lilo option I'm unsure of is the table
option. Should I add this to my other target? I thought that
Win95/DOS obtained this from the drive itself, but I've seen several
examples with the table line included?

Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks,
Gary
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16-bit X modes and clients from Suns

1996-11-13 Thread Arrigo Triulzi
Hello all,

users on my machines have X set to 16-bit 1152x900 on S3
cards. The problem is that when running clients from a Sun displaying
on their screens the colours are completely messed up unless they go
down to 8-bit colour, where everything is fine but, of course, colours
aren't enough to go round.

Any suggestions are welcome.

Thanks,

Arrigo

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Re: Is `.deb' still better than `.rpm'?

1996-11-13 Thread Martin Konold
On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Paul Seelig wrote:

 On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Martin Konold wrote:

  I would like to be able to install packages on stand alone systems
  without X11

 I second that! I'd prefer it the way 'dselect' already is working on the
 console and in an xterm under X11. A GUI oriented installation tool is a
 waste of CPU time, memory, disk space and man power (regarding it's

Mainly it is a big problems on machines which are not supported by the 
standart XFree86 servers or on low level machines which are not capable
running X11. Another point is python. Python is NOT standard on every 
machine.

I would prefer a much improved dselect.
Todays dselect is not convinient to be used.
It is like emacs to the novice. (cryptic, non-standard interface, funny
keyboard accel keys, no menues...)
How about a static linked ncurses version?


This was one of the negative reasons not to choose RedHat BTW. Although
 the present 'dselect' is not cause for joy either...

Another disadvantage of GLINT is that it is not intuitive how to install
packages from custom user directories.

So im am looking forward for a much improved dselect, which makes use of
ncurses, menus...)

Yours,
-- martin

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Re: Is `.deb' still better than `.rpm'?

1996-11-13 Thread Mark Carroll
 I would prefer a much improved dselect.
 Todays dselect is not convinient to be used.
 It is like emacs to the novice. (cryptic, non-standard interface, funny
 keyboard accel keys, no menues...)

Hmmm - I got on well with dselect from the beginning, without reading any
documentation about it, and I find it a convenient, useful tool. grin Am
I in a minority of one, I wonder? I'd be very interested to learn what
people's specific gripes are.

-- Mark

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corrupted krn-src-2.0.23

1996-11-13 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes

Hi

I'm trying to install the kernel-source package from: 
Debian-1.1.14 | rex | buzz-updates |..., but the '.deb' file, (from 2
mirrors) gets corrupted, with a problem in the tarfile.
Does anybody succeed in dpkg'ing it?

Thanks,

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VIM: filtering (Was Re: pgp)

1996-11-13 Thread J.H.M.Dassen
I wrote:
 On our Sun systems, we have two versions of vim,
 with 4.2, you don't get too see pgp's prompt for the passphrase, and
   pgp's stderr output is captured by the pipe too;
 with 3.0, you get too see pgp's prompt, and the pipe command doesn't
   capture stderr. 
 
 Stuart, I like 3.0's behaviour better. Can this be configured with 4.x
 somehow?

To answer my own question: yes this can be configured: the vim variable
shellredir is a format for how the shell redirection (involved in the
'!' construct) is done; after adding
set shellredir=%s
to my .vimrc, I got the old behaviour back.

Ray
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RE: Is `.deb' still better than `.rpm'?

1996-11-13 Thread Wieboldt, David

 I would prefer a much improved dselect.
 Todays dselect is not convinient to be used.
 It is like emacs to the novice. (cryptic, non-standard interface, funny
 keyboard accel keys, no menues...)

Hmmm - I got on well with dselect from the beginning, without reading any
documentation about it, and I find it a convenient, useful tool. grin Am
I in a minority of one, I wonder? I'd be very interested to learn what
people's specific gripes are.

-- Mark

Suggest deselect could benefit from a line worth of useful keystrokes on
screen at all times.  Pine provides an example, something like this.

I also find it annoying that each time you mark a package that requires
dependency work, you wind up reading the help stuff, and have to exit
the help.  Just take me to it and show me where the help is and howto
exit.

Just my 2 cents...  Ciao!  DaveW


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Not really Linux

1996-11-13 Thread C . J . Lawson
Hi,
 I am stuck and am turning to the list as a last resort. To those of you who
find this improper, I crave your indulgence.
   My problem is to do with variable argument lists. More precisely given the
following 
 double sum_series(int num, ... )
12{
13double sum=0.0,t;
14va_list argptr;
15  /* Initialise argptr */
16va_start(argptr, num);
17
18  /* Sum the series */
19for(;num;num--){
20 t = va_arg(argptr,double); /* get the next argument */
21sum +=t;
22}
23  /* do orderly shutdown 8*/
24va_end(argptr);
25return sum;
26} 

How do I determine the form of the pointer argptr (yes it is a struct.. Made up
of what?) and is it possible to alter the address of its __base value and the
size of the __offset..

Sorry to intrude on the net in this manner

Regards

Jonathan Lawson

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shownonascii

1996-11-13 Thread Luis Francisco Gonzalez
Hi,
today I upgraded several things to the rex distribution. One of them was 
metamail. Before I was able to see iso-8859-8 without spawning a new xterm
but now it seems, shownonascii always does that. This means that I can't
see any non pure ascii characters in the a virtual console. Is there a way of
going back to the previous setting.

Any pointers welcome!
Thanks.
Luis.

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Re: debian+emacs problem

1996-11-13 Thread Rick Macdonald
Marco Prandini wrote:

 I got a problem with emacs 19.31-2 installed with Debian 1.1.4.
 When I edit long lines reactions become unpredictable: sometimes
 it works well, other times it truncates the line or melts it with
 the surrounding lines.

Next time this happens, press CTRL-l to refresh the screen.

If it is still messed up, then you got some wierd problem 
internal to emacs that I can't even imagine.

If it redraws cleanly, then you've got problems with the TERM type.
Try export TERM=vt100 before executing emacs. You might have an
issue with termcap/terminfo differences, but I thought this was fixed
in 19.31 and later.

(You didn't say, but I assume you're not running emacs in X windows
mode)

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My initial reaction to dselect was the same as my initial reaction 
to most installation programs: I've got lots of disk space, I'll 
just install EVERYTHING!.  This turned out to be a big mistake.  
I ended up with tons of silly conflicts and now I've got all sorts 
of daemons running (like the AppleTalk server) that I'll never need.  
Someday I'll get around to blowing some of that stuff away (yeah, 
right).

My suggestion is to come up with a few standard machine roles
like network server, Novell client, development machine, etc.
and allow users to pick one or more of these.  An install almost
everything option that doesn't result in any conflicts would be
nice too.  After starting from some reasonable base, users could
customize by adding or removing packages as today.

Some way of applying changes to multiple systems automagically 
would be nice to.  If well thought out this would be a major 
selling point for Linux in large organizations.

Regards...
  ... Ami.

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install problem...

1996-11-13 Thread Mitch, W4OA (ex WA4OSR)
help! i'm obviously doing something wrong trying to install...

the boot disk works fine,  initial boot finds my ide drive  ide cd...
then when i put the first ramdisk, i get a kernel panic??? any
ideas?

mitch


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Re: Lilo problem after kernel upgrade to 2.0.25

1996-11-13 Thread Bryn Paul Arnold Jones
On 12 Nov 1996, Manoj Srivastava wrote:

 Bryn == Bryn Paul Arnold Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Bryn You did build a zImage didn't you, I think you'll get this
 Bryn message from LILO if you try to boot a bzImage.
 
 Hi,
 
   Umm, I made a bzImage, and my image boots just fine with
  LILO. 
 
   manoj
 

That's only with resent LILO's, version 19 and over (I think 19, could
be earlyer, but 19 is definatly ok).  If you try to use a LILO that dosn't
have bzImage (and initrd) fetures added, you'll not get anywhere (tho I
think you can still dd the bzImage to a floppy ).

Bryn
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HELP - libgpm.so.1 :(

1996-11-13 Thread Magic
Hi!

I instaled debian and, have one problem. When i try to run mc i see:
mc: can't load library 'libgpm.so.1'
I have:
gpm_1.10-2.deb,
mc_3.2.1-1.deb
Hehhh... Where can I find this library? :( Any ideas? 
Thank's a lot...
   Magic
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HELP - libgpm.so.1 :(

1996-11-13 Thread Magic
Hi!

I instaled debian and, have one problem. When i try to run mc i see:
mc: can't load library 'libgpm.so.1'
I have:
gpm_1.10-2.deb,
mc_3.2.1-1.deb
Hehhh... Where can I find this library? :( Any ideas? 
Thank's a lot...
   Magic
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Re: XF86 3.1.2 Memory hunger

1996-11-13 Thread Guy Maor
Rick Macdonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Note that the latest libc deb package (5.4.7-7, I think) has a special
 malloc lib file to be used in much the same way. I haven't installed it
 yet, but it's the better way to handle this.

Yes, it works fine.  I use this as /usr/local/lib/netscape:

#!/bin/sh
LD_PRELOAD=libgnumalloc.so.5 \
exec /usr/local/lib/netscape/netscape $@

with the netscape binary and java file in /usr/local/lib/netscape.
You don't need the Debian netscape package to install it.  Now that
netscape is elf X11R6, it finds the right paths without the Debian
netscape installer patching it.


Guy

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Re: Is `.deb' still better than `.rpm'?

1996-11-13 Thread Paul Christenson
On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Mark Carroll wrote:

 I would prefer a much improved dselect.  Todays dselect is not
 convinient to be used.  It is like emacs to the novice. (cryptic,
 non-standard interface, funny keyboard accel keys, no menues...) 

 Hmmm - I got on well with dselect from the beginning, without reading
 any documentation about it, and I find it a convenient, useful tool.
 grin Am I in a minority of one, I wonder? 

Make that a minority of two.  I had no trouble getting it to work (unlike
emacs); every time you hit a wrong key, the help screen comes up.

My only complaint is that it autoinstalls updated packages.  There have
been a number of times that I wanted to grab one new package via ftp
install, and came up with 10 megs of updated packages.  (Not bad at work,
but can be annoying on a 28.8 connection.)


Paul

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Re: DSelect Suggestions...

1996-11-13 Thread Rick Macdonald
Ami Ganguli wrote:
 An install almost
 everything option that doesn't result in any conflicts would be
 nice too.  After starting from some reasonable base, users could
 customize by adding or removing packages as today.

If you say so, but I can't imagine anybody doing this other than
for testing purposes.

When I first starting mirroring the debian distribution it was
less than 100MB. Now it's 270MB+, not including the boot/root disks.

It's such an eclectic mix of applications, who could possibly have
time to be interested in all of it!

Your idea of some standard machine roles or perhaps user profiles
is excellent. As a minimum, I would hope for an expanded base 
install that would go ahead and install a bunch of basic packages
that would be a good starting point for any user to start adding,
removing and replacing packages.

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Re: HELP - libgpm.so.1 :(

1996-11-13 Thread Magic
Sorry, that it was twice... And... THANKS! :
It was it! :)
 Magic
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Making dselect use unstable packages

1996-11-13 Thread GREENE KENNETH ADAM
I tried to install DOSEmu, but dselect wouldn't take it, it just 
skipped it.  How do I get it installed (dpkg -i doesn't do it either).

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