Re: APM problem on laptop
From: Casper Boden-Cummins [EMAIL PROTECTED] apm_bios: set display standby: Unrecognised device ID Set APM to _not_ blank the display. Use setterm -powersave on instead. Put it in an rc script. Apparently APM screen blanking doesn't work nearly as well as VESA screen blanking. I don't know if this will solve your suspend problem, but it will make that message go away. Tell us the APM settings in your BIOS setup. Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MSDOS to LINUX ?? HELP!!
Read the installation instructions on our web site http://www.debian.org, and install a Debian Linux system on a spare disk partition using those instructions. You won't need the compiler to do that. You may then install the gcc package and compile what you like, but we provide all of the programs pre-compiled, so that is definitely optional. Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I can't find netscape and Debian versions
On Thu, 5 Dec 1996, Kevin McEnhill wrote: I know that the directory tree on ftp.debian.org is in a state of change with the upcoming release of v1.2, but I have spent two hours looking for the 'netscape-v301' package. As the package simply installs the program downloaded from Netscape, you can also install the program yourself in the /usr/local/ tree. | This is OFFICIAL WRITTEN notification that I want to be REMOVED | | from ALL commercial mailing lists. EVERY message sent from this | | account has had this request posted. ALL UNSOLICITED ADVERTISEMENTS | | SENT TO THIS ACCOUNT ARE IN VIOLATION OF FEDERAL (U.S.) LAW.| -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Any pitfalls of upgrading to libc in unstable?
I'm going to have to upgrade to the latest Apache httpd that's in unstable. Last time I tried it, Apache kept crashing every time I tried to get a page. Someone suggested that it was because I didn't have the latest libraries. So, I'm planning on upgrading to the latest libc in unstable. What I need to know is, is there any magic order I need to do everything in? I know the last time I tried to futz with my libraries, my whole system *stopped* (because I rmed the old libraries before copying in the new ones. I guess cp was linked to shared libs, because I never made it that far. cp complained that it couldn't link to the shared libs, etc. I had to eventually boot the install disks and replace the original shared libs. So, seeing as how this has to happen on a *live* web server, I'd like to get any tips in advance. For example: I'm going to update ldso at around the same time. Should one come before the other? (ie, install new ldso, then new libc, or vice-versa?). Hints, tricks, suggestions? - Joe -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MSDOS to LINUX ?? HELP!!
On Sat, 7 Dec 1996, James D. Richardson Jr. wrote: I have downloaded the Linux Debain source code and read all of the text files. They tell me that the compiler needed is the gcc-2.3.6 so I downloaded the file and it needs compiling also. Where did you download your Debian stuff? The site you were using seems to be *very* outdated! The standard compiler of Debian-1.1 is gcc-2.7.2 ... So I read all of the text files on that. It says to find the djgpp dos compiler to fully compile it. I looked all over the net and final found a woking source. Now I don't know how to compile the gcc-2.3.6 because the installation instructions are for the unix os and not dos. Can someone please help me? Why on earth don't you just install a current Debian-1.1.x binary distribution? Please check out Debian's WWW site and read the information provided there: http://www.debian.org;. Write me an email if you need further assistance. Maybe my small knowledge can serve you somehow. Regards, P. *8^) -- Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany Our AMA Homepage in the WWW at http://www.uni-mainz.de/~bender/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
trouble with debian and networking
Hi Debian users, Hopefully you can help me. I am new to Linux and Debian (though I know UNIX specificall SunOS quite well). First, question is there a good guide for getting the networking (both ethernet and internet) working on these beasts? I have 3Com FastEtherlink 3c595 (3c59x) card. The system seems to see it. But I cannot seem to get on the networka ping says that the network is unreachable. I am thinking that I have the network addresses set wrong. I was hoping someone can help me sort this out. I have this system on a small network (gvo.net) connected to the Internet through a CISCO router. Many of the systems are NT 4.0. based. the IP address for the linux box (cabernet) is 207.105.213.136 the netmask is set to 207.105.213.192 net address is set to 207.105.213.0 is that right? broadcast IP# is set to 207.105.213.191 gateway (the cisco router) is set to 207.105.213.129 the DNS is set to 206.13.28.11 nameserver is 207.105.213.129 206.13.28.11 206.13.29.11 the main server (gvo.net) is 207.105.213.131 Any obvious places I should look or think about? Thanks, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recompiling kernel broke my ppp
On Fri, 6 Dec 1996, Bruce Perens wrote: We had a report that adding PPP to /etc/modules rather than letting kerneld load it made it work. I don't know why that would be, so if you can corroborate it, that would help. This isn't directed to you, Bruce.. but your message brought up a point. There is something that I've been wondering.. Why is everyone so fascinated with modules? I acknowledge that they have their uses, but how many people really need to UNLOAD a module once it's loaded? If you need it, compile it into the kernel, where it belongs. You'll find that there are a lot fewer problems if you do. | This is OFFICIAL WRITTEN notification that I want to be REMOVED | | from ALL commercial mailing lists. EVERY message sent from this | | account has had this request posted. ALL UNSOLICITED ADVERTISEMENTS | | SENT TO THIS ACCOUNT ARE IN VIOLATION OF FEDERAL (U.S.) LAW.| -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recompiling kernel broke my ppp
On Sat, 7 Dec 1996, Paul Christenson wrote: There is something that I've been wondering.. Why is everyone so fascinated with modules? I acknowledge that they have their uses, but how many people really need to UNLOAD a module once it's loaded? If you need it, compile it into the kernel, where it belongs. You'll find that there are a lot fewer problems if you do. Well, I have two answers: 1. On a 386/sx with 4MB of RAM the ability to load modules (sound alone is 160K) only when you need them means a lot less swapping. Granted, the ideal solution would be to add more memory, but many of us are poor. A person with low memory can benfit a lot by making lightly used drivers into modules (ppp, floppy, sound, etc...). 2. Some drivers can't be used effectivly unless they are module. For example, on my system, I have 2 parallel ports. One I use for my printer. The other I use with plip. These 2 drivers (lp and plip) are mutually exclusive when compiled into the kernel. The first one that loads would requisition all of the printer ports. The second would then fail to find any ports. With modules, I can say, lp use port 1, plip use port 2. Just my 2 cents... Erv ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ ==-- _ / / \ ---==---(_)__ __ __/ / /\ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / / /_/\ \ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ /__\ \ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org \_\/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
why modules?
I'm not surprised that you are wondering why modules are useful. Most of the reason of that is that the Linux distributions have not caught up with what they can do. That's including Debian. It's now possible to build a kernel with little more than the ramdisk and console drivers and load everything else including the driver for the root disk from a module (see the initrd documentation). That means that the user can put together an efficient kernel without recompiling. I wanted to have this for 1.2, but it'll have to wait for 1.3 . Not having to recompile the kernel is a big ease-of-use issue. Also, with kerneld you actually do unload modules when you are finished using them. Unloading modules is a nice feature because drivers and the rest of the kernel live in locked-down (rather than virtual) memory. It's nice to be able to re-use that memory. Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unidentified subject!
Newsgroups: linux.debian.user Path: not-for-mail From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (George Bonser) Subject: Re: trouble with debian and networking Date: 08 Dec 1996 02:39:21 GMT In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin L.W. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Newsreader: knews 0.9.6 Organization: Oriole: A South Bay Network site. Lines: 37 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Martin L.W. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Debian users, Hopefully you can help me. I am new to Linux and Debian (though I know UNIX specificall SunOS quite well). I have this system on a small network (gvo.net) connected to the Internet through a CISCO router. Many of the systems are NT 4.0. based. the IP address for the linux box (cabernet) is 207.105.213.136 the netmask is set to 207.105.213.192 If you have a class C net the netmask should be 255.255.255.0 net address is set to 207.105.213.0 is that right? broadcast IP# is set to 207.105.213.191 Try 207.105.213.255 for broadcast address (I think) gateway (the cisco router) is set to 207.105.213.129 the DNS is set to 206.13.28.11 nameserver is 207.105.213.129 206.13.28.11 206.13.29.11 the main server (gvo.net) is 207.105.213.131 Any obvious places I should look or think about? Thanks, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
procmail won't run
I am unable to get procmail to start up from the ~.forward file. I can get procmail to run from the command line, formail -s procmail copy_of_an_inbox I have setting ~.forward to |IFS=' 'exec /usr/bin/procmail -f-||exit 75 #blunier or | /usr/bin/procmail but neither one works. When the mail comes I doesn't land in a folder. I am using smail. Mark -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1.2 and dpkg-ftp (was: upgrade from 1.1 to 1.2?)
At 11:55 PM 12/5/96 -0600, Larry wrote: [re: dpkg-ftp from a new debian install] procedure will be welcome :), but I believe you will need the following: 1) The boot, root and base disk set 2) Any of the following which are not on the base disks: snip I did as you suggested, and then some: 1) downloaded a new set of linux disks from rex. Since it was a new system, I thought it better to go ahead and install from the beginning. My last (messed up) attempt was from disks I retrieved last week from 'stable'. 2) install went good, except debian seems confused by my cd rom drive. I can live with this a while, since I'd rather have a working system first. The CD can come later. 3) After creating a boot floppy and rebooting, I'm automatically logged in as root. I think I saw this in a message earlier this week, so I'll check the archives and see what's up with that. 4) Just for grins, I ran dselect and chose ftp as the access method. It was suggested by one user that all the required files should be on the base disks. This is what I received: dpkg(subprocess): failed to exec C compiler 'gcc': no such file or directory dpkg: subprocess gcc -- print-libgcc-file-name returned error exit status 2 The program then asked for the name of an FTP site, password, etc. If I go along with these requests, it finally says FTP ERROR and returns me to a prompt. 5) I downloaded (from rex) these packages to my MSDOS partition: cpp netstd netbase ppp dpkg dpk-ftp io libwww perl Running dselect, and asking it to install all of the above, went well except for dpkg-ftp. On this, when configuring it asked for 'libnet', which I apparently did not have. I just downloaded it and will now return to Debian to try to finish my install. That's all for now, Bri -- the talkin' is over (the walkin' has begun) - J. Sansone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Support Live Music!! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Some notes on Debian experiences
I have been running a debian system for over a year, and have come to depend upon it. The newer (1.2?) version is working fine, and upgrades are in general _much_ less painful than upgrading to elf from a.out. But there are still rough spots, notwithstanding the significant debt I owe to the developers for enabling the system upon which I have come to rely extremely heavily for all work. The upgrade to the newer libc5 packages was anticipated with some trepidation. In general it went ok, but once again, all the trouble that has been gone to to set up the package format and tools still has not make it any easier to upgrade by FTP: several packages required other packages to be upgraded, and as usual, it was trial and error. I think it is in hand, however. As before, I have had to deal privately with debian's header file system, as it does not conform to what the linux kernel is doing. I deleted the aout libraries. So far so good. I searched the bin directories for aout executables, and found none that I could not do without. So looks ok. But I still don't know if it is safe to delete the X11R6 aout libraries. I could use the space. I hope to upgrade to X11 3.2 soon, but fear and trepidation will held me back awhile. I wanted to compile a new kernel. Remembering that Debian has a screwy header file setup, I had to relink as described in the /usr/src/linux/README. I think that went ok. I was able to compile 2.1.14. I had to upgrade to a number of packages in bo. And I compiled PCMCIA myself. During the process of upgrading, I inadvertently deleted the entire /usr/info directory. My own fault, as I freely and readily accept. However, I was not ready for what happened next: when I upgraded gcc and cpp (as I found I must when I installed gcc and it would not configure), neither package would configure, with a dire error message. But the only problem was that the postinstall script could not find /usr/info/dir. I thought it nice to be rid of the directory for the time, as I needed the space to compile the kernel, but the Debian package tools would not configure these packages unless they were able to run install-info. I saw no way around this, no force option. Something of a ridiculous reason not to be able to configure an important package, since I delete the gcc and cpp info files anyway. I still am not sure where the dir file comes from. Dpkg doesn't know about any /usr/info/dir file. I stumbled across cleanup-info, and ran it, but the resulting dir file is not adequate to run info or emacs info. I get the message that no top node can be found. The system is working ok. Thanks to all developers. Alan Davis -- Alan Eugene DavisMarianas High School 15o 8.8'N GMT+10 [EMAIL PROTECTED]AAA 196 Box 10,001145o 42.5'E Saipan, MP 96950 Northern Mariana Islands An inviscid theory of flow renders the screw useless, but the need for one nonexistent.-- Lord Raleigh -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why modules?
On Sat, 7 Dec 1996, Bruce Perens wrote: I'm not surprised that you are wondering why modules are useful. Most of the reason of that is that the Linux distributions have not caught up with what they can do. That's including Debian. I do see their uses. However, there are problems with using them. The point is that 90% of users don't have a real use for modules, much less need them. As I pointed out to another person that responded, I've had too many support calls from people whose problems were a direct result of not loading a module, or compiling support into the kernel, and still trying to load the module as well. | This is OFFICIAL WRITTEN notification that I want to be REMOVED | | from ALL commercial mailing lists. EVERY message sent from this | | account has had this request posted. ALL UNSOLICITED ADVERTISEMENTS | | SENT TO THIS ACCOUNT ARE IN VIOLATION OF FEDERAL (U.S.) LAW.| -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
POPmail and procmail
When I send a message via locally, over my own network, procmail seems to process the file, but when mail comes in via 'popclient' from my ISP, it doesn't seem to be running the .forward file. Does anyone have this same situation. Maybe I am beating my head against a brick wall for nothing. OR is there a way to have 'popclient' pass the mail to procmail directly? -- Daniel Stringfield mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jax-inter.net/users/servo Send email for more information on the Jacksonville Linux Users Group! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian on Infomagic CD
According to the Infomagic Web Page for the new 6 CD set: IMMirror date: 1st week of December Yet, it also states: IM* Debian - Latest stable release (Debian GNU/Linux 1.2) So, what I'm wondering is if they are just going to mirror what they found in the past week on the ftp site? That's a pretty scary proposition, and I'm no longer sure I want to get the CD set, given that 1.2 isn't actually out. Anyone here know anything? David Welton [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.efn.org/~davidw Se quest'email e` in Italiano, mi dispiace per gli errori:-) FORZA PANTANI! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian on Infomagic CD
From: David Welton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian - Latest stable release (Debian GNU/Linux 1.2) They will have a real Debian 1.2 release on their CD. It's authorized. They've been holding off mastering the CD until I give the go-ahead. I will be sending them a list of MD5 checksums tomorrow morning just to be sure they get all of the files right. Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
about ready to make the release
I'm waiting for the mirrors to catch up with master.debian.org, and then it will be release time. Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
texhash
This letter was sent before but it didn't arrive on the list, so this is a second attempt. Hello, I just installed the Lucida fonts, and because they didn't come with a script I did it by hand. I really hope I didn't make too many mistakes. The next step would be running texhash. Unfortunately, I cannot find texhash. I installed all TeX packages from Debian 1.1.11, and Latex works OK. Can someone tell me what to do so I can use my fonts? Thanks, Fulko -- Fulko van Westrenen email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian on Infomagic CD
On Sat, 7 Dec 1996, Bruce Perens wrote: They will have a real Debian 1.2 release on their CD. It's authorized. They've been holding off mastering the CD until I give the go-ahead. I will be sending them a list of MD5 checksums tomorrow morning just to be sure they get all of the files right. Please advice Joel Goldberger to include the non-free stuff as well because lots of people -- like me ;-) -- *do* need this software. I already wrote him a message asking to do so but your word may have possibly more weight! Thanks, P. *8^) -- Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany Our AMA Homepage in the WWW at http://www.uni-mainz.de/~bender/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Leafmode - newsreaders / mailer suggestions.
Hi all, I need advice to get mail/news working. Running (pre)1.2 with smail configured and pine also have elm available. Knews is available - I haven't used this yet. I am trying to get a working setup so that I can pull a close colleague to Debian. Problem: mail / pine both read mail fine. Can't get pine to queue outgoing mail in a spool file somewhere and send all messages together as I go on line. Help/advice appreciated. Still using a Windows newsreader / news posting client for ease of use: need help on configuring a local news spool i.e. download all my news to a local spool then read it off line / prepare replies etc. [Demon Internet treat all postings to newsgroups as email so I need to be able to configure the software accordingly]. Someone elsewhere suggested leafmode as the ideal solution for a small site would be helpful here - is there a .deb package ?? [*Explicit* advice as to diald config. would also be a great help and much appreciated - I'm currently getting there very slowly] Thanks very much Andy -- Andrew Martin Adrian Cater -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problems with some packages
Hi everybody. I've recently encountered two problems while using dselect : - gs-aladdin keeps downgrading after upgrading (in this case, it upgrades to 4.03-7 and almost imediately reverts to 4.03-6). - In the last batch of twenty or so packages I upgraded, one changed the files I had in /etc/init.d without asking. I've no idea which package did that, but I'm sure I never agreed to anything asking me that. The most obvious results were my personal keymap not being loaded at boot time, and the time reverting to GMT (both thing were done in /etc/init.d/boot). Mat -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ncftp. Current boot disks
I need clarification on two issues: * The symbolic link ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/rex/disks-i386/current is pointing at 1996-11-28/, instead of 1996-12-7/. I think that is incorrect. * I need to file a bug report for ncftp-2.4.2: the get -R command is not excecuted, I only get the prompt for the next command. Few days ago I was looking at a debian bug list. Now that I need to check if this bug is reported, I cannot find it. The debian-faq.txt directed me to a debian-bugs/ archieve, but there was nothing there! Where can I browse for previous bug reports? Ioannis Tambouras [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP 512/D042DD45, West Palm Beach, Florida -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tweaking cron for use on laptops
I have been running Debian on my laptop for a few months now. Good job guys. Unless I intentionally remove the cron package form this machine, the hard drive will not spin down. What would be nice is if I could configure cron to only run say once per hour. That way I could take advantage of the log cycling features of the system. Reading through the vixie cron documentation and source, there does not appear to be a straightforward way to do this. Anyone thought about this? -- Marty -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: about ready to make the release
In your email to me, Bruce Perens, you wrote: I'm waiting for the mirrors to catch up with master.debian.org, and then it will be release time. Whee!! My two mirrors are caught up.. Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps Great successes are built on taking your negatives and turning them around. -- Sumner Redstone ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian on Infomagic CD
On Sun, 8 Dec 1996, Karl Ferguson wrote: At 03:09 PM 12/8/96 +0100, Paul Seelig wrote: Please advice Joel Goldberger to include the non-free stuff as well because lots of people -- like me ;-) -- *do* need this software. I already wrote him a message asking to do so but your word may have possibly more weight! The whole idea for the non-free area is that it belongs to programs with difficult copyright notices such as it's not to be distributed etc. I seriously doubt that any CD manufacturer will include it on a distributed CD because it may well break copyright laws. This isn't exactly true. A package can go into non-free if commercial use is not allowed. A CD manufacturer can then put the package on the CD if they make a notice that commercial use is prohibited. At least this is how I understand it. Shaya -- Shaya Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Leafmode - newsreaders / mailer suggestions.
On Sun, 8 Dec 1996, Andrew Martin Adrian Cater wrote: Hi all, I need advice to get mail/news working. Running (pre)1.2 with smail configured and pine also have elm available. Knews is available - I haven't used this yet. I am trying to get a working setup so that I can pull a close colleague to Debian. Still using a Windows newsreader / news posting client for ease of use: need help on configuring a local news spool i.e. download all my news to a local spool then read it off line / prepare replies etc. Someone elsewhere suggested leafmode as the ideal solution for a small site would be helpful here - is there a .deb package ?? I followed the suggestion. Was very easy to configure, and wasn't to hard to complie, after I changed a bug in the Makefile (1.0 had the bug, but 0.8 di not). Works fine with trn, but if I try to run nn i get back $ nn could not fetch active file I don't know if it is a problem with leafnode or nn, as I can get the active file with 'list' or 'list active'. Any thoughts on why? Mark -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I can't find netscape and Debian versions
As the package simply installs the program downloaded from Netscape, you can also install the program yourself in the /usr/local/ tree. It also makes a few changes so it can find the proper system files. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- the difference between theory and practice is less in theory than in practice -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
send only sendmail/smail
I need to install sendmail/smail so I can use elm. However, the only thing elm needs from sendmail/smail is the ability to deliver mail from elm to my ISPs mail server via SMTP. I wish to continue to use popclient to retrieve my mail from my ISP and deliver it to the user's mail folder. How do I disable smail/sendmail, either during or after installation, so that it can only be used to send mail to the mail server, and will not try to retrieve mail as well? TIA, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 877-0257 Flexible Software Fax: NONE Black Creek Critters e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you don't see what you want, just ask -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NTFS Filesystems
Can Linux read NTFS filesystems? I looked at the partitions using fdisk and it read the NTFS filesystem as OS/2 HPFS, but when I tried to mount it calling it HPFS it didn't work. Is there any way to do this? Thanks Robert Platt McGill University -- Montreal Children's Hospital Research Institute For every complex and difficult problem there is always a simple and easy solution... and it's wrong -- H.L. Mencken -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
Re: Mounting a file as a filesystem
Hamish Moffatt writes: Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This may be true (most probably is) but mkisofs is the tool I know about from personal experience. How would I create an ext2fs in a file? Wouldn't it still need to be a ro file system? You use losetup to make the loop, then make the fs, and then mount it. See the losetup(8) man page for details. And no, it wouldn't be ro. Although you need to make a file of the desired size first so you have something to losetup. eg for 10mb file system, dd if=/dev/zero of=file bs=1k count=10240 losetup /dev/loop0 file mke2fs /dev/loop0 mount -t ext2 /dev/loop0 /mnt For all that I know about Linux, here comes along a new feature to fasinate me 8-) -- -= Sent by Debian Linux =- Thomas Kocourek KD4CIK [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pdf files
This isn't debian specific, but what does it take to read/print pdf files in linux? Thanks -lars -- My sig file is only one line long! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NTFS Filesystems
On Sun, 8 Dec 1996, Robert Platt wrote: Can Linux read NTFS filesystems? I looked at the partitions using fdisk and it read the NTFS filesystem as OS/2 HPFS, but when I tried to mount it calling it HPFS it didn't work. Is there any way to do this? I don't believe linux can mount NTFS filesystems. But, did you make sure the hpfs is compiled into your kernel? -- Daniel Stringfield mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jax-inter.net/users/servo Send email for more information on the Jacksonville Linux Users Group! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Leafmode - newsreaders / mailer suggestions.
Andrew Martin Adrian Cater [EMAIL PROTECTED] Someone elsewhere suggested leafmode as the ideal solution for a small site would be helpful here - is there a .deb package ?? I don't think so. If there is, I would very much like to know. --Arnt -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Virtual Hosting
Fundamental writes: [snip] Now, what else do i have to do to get this virtual host to work on my machine? IF anyone has some advice or can point me in the right direction for a HowTO, id much apprecaiate it:) [snip] Excuse my ignorance, but what is a virtual host? (and what would be the advantages to having one?) -- -= Sent by Debian Linux =- Thomas Kocourek KD4CIK [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NTFS Filesystems
Can Linux read NTFS filesystems? I looked at the partitions using fdisk and it read the NTFS filesystem as OS/2 HPFS, but when I tried to mount it calling it HPFS it didn't work. Is there any way to do this? I don't believe linux can mount NTFS filesystems. But, did you make sure the hpfs is compiled into your kernel? I did check that. My basic problem is I have some stuff on my NTFS disk that I need to get over to another HD which has my linux swap and root partitions. Is there a fips.exe type utility that would work on a linux patition? That way I could shrink that partition a bit and make a FAT partition which could be mounted. Thanks again. -- --- Robert Platt McGill-Montreal Children's Hospital Research Institute For every complex and difficult problem there is always a simple and easy solution ... and it's wrong. -- H.L. Mencken --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NTFS Filesystems
On Sun, 8 Dec 1996, Robert Platt wrote: I did check that. My basic problem is I have some stuff on my NTFS disk that I need to get over to another HD which has my linux swap and root partitions. Is there a fips.exe type utility that would work on a linux patition? That way I could shrink that partition a bit and make a FAT partition which could be mounted. Change your swap into a FAT file system, then copy the data to it, then mount it under linux, copy the data off of that, then turn it back into a swap partition when all the data is copied over... -- Daniel Stringfield mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jax-inter.net/users/servo Send email for more information on the Jacksonville Linux Users Group! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DNS and its Proper configuration
I seem to have a improper configuration in my DNS, because I get a debug message (logged to /var/log/debug) from named that says: Dec 8 15:42:47 dst named[143]: sysquery: findns error (2) on dsnc.net? It only does this when I send mail to say [EMAIL PROTECTED]. There is a MX host setup for dsnc.net, and it does send it to the correct machine (dst.dsnc.net to be exact). Everything WORKS, but it gives me this error message. Can some one tell me what exactly this MEANS? -- Daniel Stringfield mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jax-inter.net/users/servo Send email for more information on the Jacksonville Linux Users Group! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pgp?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Sat, 7 Dec 1996, Todd T. Fries wrote: Or do I have to stop being lazy and actually do something? doing it urself, it's more fun! :) get the source from ftp1.Ngbert.org /pub/tar-files/pgp262s.tar.gz /ayn -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMqsp3p6qvWJYgw1hAQGqMgP/bZFMCy8OzwPIv19ZL5QcTgKN7exmoFk9 1wn2xY3UcLl+OkmmLLT9Lon7VycZd+ZzqAenZ3N2N1FTJSuR0CbRUFqKcV1Dqvou 2s1MIG0qoXY4GGpgDwmCGKfItuulwCjKJ2If1J6cT0LXGBJv46J65s1ZUkAlXM42 Vnlnmoc2WAw= =TEFk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Andrew Y Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Carnegie Mellon University http://andrew.Ngbert.org | ECE major, Music minor campus ph: 412/862-2836 | voice mail: 412/268-6700 x30027 | talk: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] * NGBERT.ORG! *| for online status http://www.Ngbert.org | finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more info... --X- NetBSD FreeBSD Linux NeXT Be Solaris !windoze had a lollipop. He asked his mother, Why doesn't HE have a lollipop? Her reply: He can have a lollipop any time he wants to. That's what it means to be a programmer. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian on Infomagic CD
On Sun, 8 Dec 1996, Shaya Potter wrote: On Sun, 8 Dec 1996, Karl Ferguson wrote: The whole idea for the non-free area is that it belongs to programs with difficult copyright notices such as it's not to be distributed etc. I seriously doubt that any CD manufacturer will include it on a distributed CD because it may well break copyright laws. This isn't exactly true. A package can go into non-free if commercial use is not allowed. A CD manufacturer can then put the package on the CD if they make a notice that commercial use is prohibited. At least this is how I understand it. My understanding is that producing a CD for sale (which I do) is a commercial use of the software and therefore not allowed. Pine, on the other hand, is in non-free, but I can distribute it because it's only restriction is that I may not put pine on a CD with proprietary software (this restriction is enough to place it in non-free). It is for each re-distributor to decide which of these packages they can use. That is the reason they are in non-free to begin with. Luck, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 877-0257 Flexible Software Fax: NONE Black Creek Critters e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you don't see what you want, just ask -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dpkg keeps using the 'msdos-i386' directory...
Today I tried running dpkg (version 1.4.0.3) on a local debian mirror. The mirror is up to date. I get this error message: 22:52 [root:p3] sgip038:~# dselect Running dpkg -iGROEB /debian/unstable find: /debian/unstable/msdos-i386/games/fortune.deb: No such file or directory dpkg: subprocess find returned error exit status 1 installation script returned error exit status 1. Press RETURN to continue. It's not the first time it happens to me, it happens ever since I reinstalled my system with the 1996-11-28 1.2 disk set. Why does dselect keep trying to install packages from msdos-i386? And why is this link missing anyway? Does it have something to do with the fact that last friday my dselect kept looping endlessly? -- Farzad FARID Administrateur Reseau SGIP - Publicis -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian on Infomagic CD
On Sun, 8 Dec 1996, Dale Scheetz wrote: On Sun, 8 Dec 1996, Shaya Potter wrote: On Sun, 8 Dec 1996, Karl Ferguson wrote: The whole idea for the non-free area is that it belongs to programs with difficult copyright notices such as it's not to be distributed etc. I seriously doubt that any CD manufacturer will include it on a distributed CD because it may well break copyright laws. This isn't exactly true. A package can go into non-free if commercial use is not allowed. A CD manufacturer can then put the package on the CD if they make a notice that commercial use is prohibited. At least this is how I understand it. My understanding is that producing a CD for sale (which I do) is a commercial use of the software and therefore not allowed. Pine, on the other hand, is in non-free, but I can distribute it because it's only restriction is that I may not put pine on a CD with proprietary software (this restriction is enough to place it in non-free). It is for each re-distributor to decide which of these packages they can use. That is the reason they are in non-free to begin with. I was thinking along the line of something like cucipop, which if I remember correctly is free for personal use, but not for isp's to use and it therefore was put in non-free, but it could probably be distributed on a cd, couldn't it? Shaya -- Shaya Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian on Infomagic CD
Hi Shaya, You wrote: Shaya Shaya On Sun, 8 Dec 1996, Karl Ferguson wrote: Shaya Shaya This isn't exactly true. A package Shaya can go into non-free if commercial use is not allowed. A CD Shaya manufacturer can then put the package on the CD if they make a Shaya notice that commercial use is prohibited. At least this is how Shaya I understand it. But isn't, putting a pkg on cdrom and selling it, makes already commercial use ? thks borik -- Boris D. Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] For pgp public key, e-mail me with subject get pgp-key -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian on Infomagic CD
On Sun, 8 Dec 1996, Karl Ferguson wrote: The whole idea for the non-free area is that it belongs to programs with difficult copyright notices such as it's not to be distributed etc. I seriously doubt that any CD manufacturer will include it on a distributed CD because it may well break copyright laws. You have never purchased a CD-ROM from I-Connect, did you? They do it just like the humble user prefers it. The annoying thing about the InfoMagic disks was that all programs out of non-free were present as *.rpm in RedHat, as *.tgz in Slackware and as well as *.tar.gz as mirrored from various FTP servers. This is/has been schizophrenic to my mind... Regards, P. *8^) -- Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany Our AMA Homepage in the WWW at http://www.uni-mainz.de/~bender/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Leafmode - newsreaders / mailer suggestions.
Hi Gulbrandsen, You wrote: Gulbrandsen Gulbrandsen Andrew Martin Adrian Cater Gulbrandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Someone elsewhere Gulbrandsen suggested leafmode as the ideal solution for a small Gulbrandsen site would be helpful here - is there a .deb package ?? Gulbrandsen Gulbrandsen I don't think so. If there is, I would very much like to Gulbrandsen know. I thought about pkging it, but after using it for about a month, i decided not to. It looks very unstable. thks borik -- Boris D. Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] For pgp public key, e-mail me with subject get pgp-key -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
problem with ldso, after upgrade to 1.2
I upgrade from 1.1 to 1.2. After the upgrade I have the follow error message when I try to run pppd: pppd: can't load dynamic linker '/lib/ld.so nor /usr/i486-debian-linux/lib/ld.so' I also have the same message, when I run other programmes such as fortune. How to fix it? Godfrey -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian on Infomagic CD
Hi Paul, You wrote: Paul Paul On Sat, 7 Dec 1996, Bruce Perens wrote: Paul Please advice Joel Goldberger to include the Paul non-free stuff as well because lots of people -- like me ;-) -- Paul *do* need this software. I already wrote him a message asking Paul to do so but your word may have possibly more weight! AFAIK, non-free exists only because there are packages that should not be on CD-ROM (copyright) but can still be pkged and put on the ftp site. *shrug* Paul Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] thks borik -- Boris D. Beletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] For pgp public key, e-mail me with subject get pgp-key -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Leafmode - newsreaders / mailer suggestions.
Andrew Martin Adrian Cater ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: : Someone elsewhere suggested leafmode as the ideal solution for a small : site would be helpful here - is there a .deb package ?? I have packaged up leafnode into a Debian package and have been using it for a couple of months and it is ideal for a small site. I'm hoping to get it up for ftp shortly. Mark Package: leafnode Installed-Size: 1152 Maintainer: Mark Purcell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Version: 0.9-1 Provides: news-transport-system Depends: libc5 (= 5.4.7-7) Recommends: news-reader Conflicts: news-transport-system Size: 53114 Conffiles: /etc/leafnode/config e87b3f31796df84da6738fcc41080292 Description: USENET software package designed for small sites Leafnode is a USENET software package designed for small sites, with a few tens of readers and only a slow link to the net. . Only groups that someone has been reading in the past week are fetched from the upstream NNTP server. When someone stops reading a group, leafnode will stop reading that group a week later, and when someone starts reading a group, leafnode will grab all the articles it can in that group the next time it runs. . - Uses very little disk space and bandwidth compared to other servers. Obviously truer for 3-user sites than for 30-user, and probably wholly untrue for 300-user sites. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
