Re: Debian 1.2.3
From: Guy Maor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian 1.2.3 is released and contains eight updated packages. ... Here is the entire ChangeLog (debian/stable/ChangeLog on ftp sites), ... diald (0.14-9) stable unstable; urgency=low ... * diald fifo moved to /var/run. This is created/removed by the init script. perl (5.003.07-5) stable unstable; urgency=low * Moved config.over.MK to the debian directory so that all the files that I add are there. ... Given that those files are moved (change in current release relative to previous release), what happens if I re-install these packages? Will the old file be removed, or will I end up with two files? (I don't know how much the packaging system takes care of obsolete or old files.) Thanks, Daniel -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
Re: Documentation (Was: Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to ...)
From: Fabien Ninoles [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... On Wed, 15 Jan 1997, Daniel S. Barclay wrote: ... Good. :-) I HATE that feature of Windows 95. ... ... Oh...yeah; sorry. Okay. #undef HATE_MICROSOFT_MODE have you succesfully compiled anything after this? ... No, although I do boot Windows 95 to run Quicken. ... Maybe Mhonarc can do little thing about it but I'm talking about an almost concised flames-cleared digest of the list, with tools to browse throwout. Yes, a moderated digest archive would certainly be easier to use that a full archive. If command old_simple_x is superseded by new_fancy_x, then ideally the documentation for old_simple_x that a user might run into (e.g., the manual page) would say don't forget that now there is new_fancy_x you might want to use instead. I _have_ seen that on a few Unix manual pages or somewhere similar (maybe GNU info pages for the C library, documenting routines that still exist but for which better replacements exist.) ... The case you cite only happens when a program are just included for backward compability. But most of the time, you really have two or more alternatives equally supported to do the same thing. Debian make lot of work to standardize and simplify everything. Configuration and Documentation are still the most discussed subject on the lists, but standard and freedom seems to be a little bit opposed sometime. I just wish for cross pointers (or some other way to know what the choices are), not any encroachment on freedom to choose, I don't think. 3. Keep in mind that it's hard to keep up with constantly-changing documentation. ... I would think that direct-lookup on-line documentation like manual pages or GNU info pages would be used on a continuing basis, so I would hope that all new information would make it into that reference documentation, and hopefully a few pointers to new, alternative, or add-on things could be included too. That's why Changelogs exists. I'm trying to find a way to consolidate the information. If I read a manual page for something, then I also have to check the /usr/doc directory...and any GNU info pages...and then I have to get the source package to check the ChangeLog (or are ChangeLogs included in binary Debian packages). HTML is the currently supported format for Debian doc. But is not so easy Do you mean for Debian-specific documentation, or for most documentation shipped in a Debian distribution? (If the latter, where is it?--I've missed it.) to maintain. I don't won't to be the one who will have to translate all the XV doc in html (with significanted links and everything). Also, we need a good html search index too for browsing throw everything. dwww seems to be the nearest way to a solution but some work still have to be done. Actually, give me a pointer to what HTML documentation you're referring to; I'm not sure I haven't missed something. ... Missing useful info are considered as a bug in Debian (contrarely to the FSF). Any little thing like this would be really appreciate. Yes, I plan to report specific things...well, when I get around to it. Sometimes it's hard to get motivated to report all the specific problems, because it seems that people don't back up a level to look at the source of the problems, to fix the root causes and avoid many specific problems. For example, regarding all those buffer-overflow security-problem reports: It's the same error again and again. Instead of fixing individual buffers that are too short, why isn't there a push towards using some common library of string manipulation functions for string operations (including buffer allocation)? Then the likelihood of these errors (security problems and just plain old bugs) would be reduced faster than from just fixing one bug at a time when it's noticed. (Is there any documentation policy document, either for Debian or for Linux generally, to which I should contribute any useful ideas I might have?) You'll find all the policy in the policy manual, a document you find in html format at /usr/doc/dpkg/policy.html/index.html in the dpkg-dev package or on the ftp-sites in the doc directory (yes, /pub/debian/doc not in /pub/debian/stable/binary-all/doc !) Thanks. I'll take a look. Daniel -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
Re: Comm problems
On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote: If you have serial as a module, you should probably make sure that the auto line in /etc/modules is uncommented and then add serial to the list of drivers there as well. This will keep kerneld from unloading the serial driver and loosing all your device settings. I'll double check this. This is most likely an issue of phone line quality. I had to have the line from my house to the local junction box replaced because squirrels running up and down the line generated so much static that I couldn't hold a connection very long. This is most likely not the case since my old RedHat Linux had no problems of this sort, and neither does my Windows 95. Thanks for your input! -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
Re: tar dumps core
From: Dr. Andreas Wehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, I've experienced this too. : It won't dump core if file is smaller (say a few KB) or the option M : is not used. ... overlapping files are lost. Reading it back with M-option makes the first tape give a Segmentation fault at an offset of about 60MB. At ... and another distribution, but the same tar version GNU tar 1.11.8. ... So, is this fault really ((tar-version) + data)-dependent? I usually There is a buffer-overrun bug in (non-Debianized) tar-1.11.8 that involves the -M flag. And yes, it is data dependent. The sensitization conditions were: - use of the --multi-volume option - use of the --listed-incremental options - a long file name (I think longer than the 100 character standard (old?) tar limit) - one other condition I can't remember; maybe just going to a second volume The symptoms I got were corruption of the data file for the --list-incremental option. None of my data was corrupted, but an incremental backup wouldn't be incremental. Francois Pinard said that others reported other symptoms. Does anyone know if Debian patches this bug? (I'm sure it's fixed by now in tar, but tar hasn't been released publically yet.) (If it's not fixed in Debian, someone e-mail me, and I dig up and send you the correction--a buffer that should have been sized with the _system_ maximum pathname length was incorrectly declared with the standard _tar_ maximum pathname length.) Daniel -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
Ghostscript and Xlib
hi all, having installed ghostscript and its associated libraries i get the following error ... gs: can't load library 'libXt.so.6' I quick search of my machiane as well as the debian package description came up with noting. I assume then that this library comes embeded within a particular pacakge. If anyone could give me a pointer, much appreciated. PaChi, michl electric RAIN http://www.electric-rain.net/ I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when looked at in the right way, did not become still more complicated. -Poul Anderson. -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
Debian web site / documentation
Is http://www.debian.org/Documentation/ being maintained? It has nothing about version 1.2.x on it. Daniel -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults
In Debian Linux, do files in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/ get read or not? The Debian FAQ says: Debian's X11 installation expects you to leave the files in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/ unchanged. If you want to customise X applications globally, put your customizations in /etc/X11/Xresources. This file is marked as a configuration file, so its contents will be preserved during upgrades. That doesn't quite answer my question. (For example, do .../app-defaults/ files apply if there is no corresponding file in .../Xresources/? If there is such a corresponding file, does nothing in the .../app-defaults/ apply, or does everything apply except for things overridden in the file in .../Xresources/? Thanks, Daniel -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
Upgrading to cron-3.0pl1-37
Regarding the recently uploaded cron-3.0pl1-37, which should be showing up on the mirror sites RSN, Joey Hess found the following problem during an upgrade from -36.1: On Jan 16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joey Hess) wrote: (In Bug#6634: cron: can't upgrade cron while cron job is running) Package: cron Version: 3.0pl1-37 Setting up cron (3.0pl1-37) ... Installing new version of config file /etc/cron.daily/standard ... /usr/sbin/cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 443: Try again dpkg: error processing cron (--install): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Cause: It's because the prerm in -36 and -36.1 was hosed -- it never stops the cron daemon, so when the -37 postinst tries to (re-) start the daemon, it can't , because the old crond is still running. Sigh. Temporary Workaround: Before upgrading cron, issue /etc/init.d/cron stop and then do the install. If you've already tried once, and gotten the 'already locked' message, you'll probably need to kill it by hand, it looks like pid file gets screwed, and start-stop-daemon can no longer find the right process. I'll poke around tonight and see if I can figure the right place to deal with it in the new scripts. Steve Greenland -- The Mole - I think, therefore I scream He was sweet and sincere and giving and good... AND A CHERISHED NEIGHBOR UNDESERVING OF SUCH A FATE!! Nevertheless, better him than me. Amen. [Eulogy given by Banana PC Jr to Opus in Bloom County] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: to help us lighten up...
You forgot Linux Beer, the choice of home brewers every where. Has bits and pieces of SysV and BSD beer, but has its own distinct flavor. Shaya On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, Pete Templin wrote: There have been a few flame wars and other discussions going back and forth. Although many of the topics can certainly offer good criticisms when taken with a shake of salt, perhaps we need something besides the norm here. Let's not turn our wonderful list into a jokes-only list, but I just want to try something different for a change. So, here we go... If Operating Systems Were Beers... DOS Beer: Requires you to use your own can opener, and requires you to read the directions carefully before opening the can. Originally only came in an 8-oz. can, but now comes in a 16-oz. can. However, the can is divided into 8 compartments of 2 oz. each, which have to be accessed separately. Soon to be discontinued, although a lot of people are going to keep drinking it after it's no longer available. Mac Beer: At first, came only a 16-oz. can, but now comes in a 32-oz. can. Considered by many to be a light beer. All the cans look identical. When you take one from the fridge, it opens itself. The ingredients list is not on the can. If you call to ask about the ingredients, you are told that you don't need to know. A notice on the side reminds you to drag your empties to the trashcan. Windows 3.1 Beer: The world's most popular. Comes in a 16-oz. can that looks a lot like Mac Beer's. Requires that you already own a DOS Beer. Claims that it allows you to drink several DOS Beers simultaneously, but in reality you can only drink a few of them, very slowly, especially slowly if you are drinking the Windows Beer at the same time. Sometimes, for apparently no reason, a can of Windows Beer will explode when you open it. OS/2 Beer: Comes in a 32-oz can. Does allow you to drink several DOS Beers simultaneously. Allows you to drink Windows 3.1 Beer simultaneously too, but somewhat slower. Advertises that its cans won't explode when you open them, even if you shake them up. You never really see anyone drinking OS/2 Beer, but the manufacturer (International Beer Manufacturing) claims that 9 million six-packs have been sold. Windows 95 Beer: You can't buy it yet, but a lot of people have taste-tested it and claim it's wonderful. The can looks a lot like Mac Beer's can, but tastes more like Windows 3.1 Beer. It comes in 32-oz. cans, but when you look inside, the cans only have 16 oz. of beer in them. Most people will probably keep drinking Windows 3.1 Beer until their friends try Windows 95 Beer and say they like it. The ingredients list, when you look at the small print, has some of the same ingredients that come in DOS beer, even though the manufacturer claims that this is an entirely new brew. Windows NT Beer: Comes in 32-oz. cans, but you can only buy it by the truckload. This causes most people to have to go out and buy bigger refrigerators. The can looks just like Windows 3.1 Beer's, but the company promises to change the can to look just like Windows 95 Beer's - after Windows 95 beer starts shipping. Touted as an industrial strength beer, and suggested only for use in bars. Unix Beer: Comes in several different brands, in cans ranging from 8 oz. to 64 oz. Drinkers of Unix Beer display fierce brand loyalty, even though they claim that all the different brands taste almost identical. Sometimes the pop-tops break off when you try to open them, so you have to have your own can opener around for those occasions, in which case you either need a complete set of instructions, or a friend who has been drinking Unix Beer for several years. AmigaDOS Beer: The company has gone out of business, but their recipe has been picked up by some weird German company, so now this beer will be an import. This beer never really sold very well because the original manufacturer didn't understand marketing. Like Unix Beer, AmigaDOS Beer fans are an extremely loyal and loud group. It originally came in a 16-oz. can, but now comes in 32-oz. cans too. When this can was originally introduced, it appeared flashy and colorful, but the design hasn't changed much over the years, so it appears dated now. Critics of this beer claim that it is only meant for watching TV anyway. VMS Beer: Requires minimal user interaction, except for popping the top and sipping. However cans have been known on occasion to explode, or contain extremely un-beer-like contents. Best drunk in high pressure development environments. When you call the manufacturer for the list of ingredients, you're told that is proprietary and referred to an unknown listing in the manuals published by the FDA. Rumors are that this was once listed in the Physicians' Desk Reference as a tranquilizer, but no one can claim to have
Re: Ghostscript and Xlib
On Fri, 17 Jan 1997 10:21:53 +1100 Fundamental ([EMAIL PROTECTED] et) wrote: hi all, having installed ghostscript and its associated libraries i get the following error ... gs: can't load library 'libXt.so.6' Check that: 1) You have xlib6 installed. 2) You have a /usr/X11R6/lib line in /etc/ld.so.conf If not, add it, and run as root ldconfig. Phil. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults
On Thu, 16 Jan 1997 18:37:46 EST Daniel S. Barclay ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: In Debian Linux, do files in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/ get read or not? Definitely yes. The Debian FAQ says: Debian's X11 installation expects you to leave the files in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/ unchanged. If you want to customise X applications globally, put your customizations in /etc/X11/Xresources. This file is marked as a configuration file, so its contents will be preserved during upgrades. This just says that the user/admin shouldn't modify these files and that they will be changed without warning when upgrading (contrarily to /etc/X11/Xresources). (For example, do .../app-defaults/ files apply if there is no corresponding file in .../Xresources/? If there is such a corresponding file, does nothing in the .../app-defaults/ apply, or does everything apply except for things overridden in the file in .../Xresources/? The Xresources file is loaded into the server by the X init scripts with xrdb -merge. You may customize several applications into this file, eg: XTerm*background:red Xload*background: blue The precedence is: 1) resources passed in the command line 2) resources read in the X database (ie the /etc/X11/Xresources file) 3) static application resources in the app-defaults directory. Hope that helps... Phil. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I cannot upgrade from 2.0.0 to 2.0.27
On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, Daniel J. Mashao wrote: Can anybody tell me what I need to successfully upgrade from 2.0.0 to 2.0.27. When I run dpkg on the kerneld package it says every is fine but unfortunately my sound, cd-rom and floppies stops working. Anyone? You _did_ run 'make config' (or 'make menuconfig') to tell it to add support for those devices, didn't you? |This is OFFICIAL WRITTEN notification that I want to be REMOVED| |from ALL commercial mailing lists. EVERY message sent from this | | account has had this request posted. ALL UNSOLICITED ADVERTISEMENTS | | SENT TO THIS ACCOUNT ARE IN VIOLATION OF FEDERAL (U.S.) LAW. | | Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of Cyclades Corporation. | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ghostscript and Xlib
On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, Philippe Troin wrote: phil phil On Fri, 17 Jan 1997 10:21:53 +1100 Fundamental ([EMAIL PROTECTED] phil et) wrote: phil phil hi all, having installed ghostscript and its associated libraries i get phil the following error ... gs: can't load library 'libXt.so.6' phil phil Check that: phil 1) You have xlib6 installed. phil 2) You have a /usr/X11R6/lib line in /etc/ld.so.conf phil If not, add it, and run as root ldconfig. Thanks, this was teh problem, didnt have it in my ld.co.conf:) Old is always 15 years from now -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
setting up authentification for reading news
Hi my news server requires that I use authentification to identify myself. I've been told that a number of windows news readers will do this. Any suggestions on how to set this up under linux. Thanks in advance Joe. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dpkg-1.4.0.6
i am really puzzled by the behaviour of the latest dpkg. why did dselect automatically upgrade mailx from 8.5.5-1 to 8.1.1-2 as per example: Preparing to replace mailx 8.5.5-1 (using .../mail/mailx_8.1.1-2.deb) ... Unpacking replacement mailx ... isn't version 8.5.5 higher than 8.1.1? the only thing that's higher in the new package is the debian version (2 as opposed to 1). in the dpkg upgrade there is a mention of fixing the handling of epochs, but i don't think the debian version should be part of the package version. did i misunderstand? --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CD-ROM -- how to mount, etc.
I have an IDE atapi cdrom drive which is found when linux starts up: hca: CD-ROM CDR_S16, ATAPI CDROM DRIVE. But, I can't mount /dev/cdrom /cdrom. Neither can I use CDPLAY. Could it possibly be since mcdx doesn't find the drive? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Also, what is the linux equivelant to config.sys, I want to be able to remove some of the call to drivers when linux starts up, I only have about 20 devices, but linux attempts to load about 50. Thanx. Jason Wood Windows[n.]- another pane in the glass. Want a laugh and learn about me: http://www.ccil.org/~wood/ Have a great day/night whatever, I don't seem know 1 from the other. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WordPerfect for Java
I think I found 1 bug in the linux jdt which probably has nothing to do with Corel's package. The jdk does not like talking to the X server on my Digital Unix system. I have seen other applications behave this way when the default visual was 24 bit TrueColor. I run the X server so the default visual is 8 bit PseudoColor and that makes most things happy. It looks like the jdk is requesting a non-default visual and then dying when it can't handle what it gets. Here is some sample output: That was my problem. I wasn't running in 8 bpp mode. Thanks Paul -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
jdk-common and jdk-static, which one goes first???
I just installed debian-1.2. The X windows and Netscape work well. Thanks for people who made these packages. When i try jdk-common and jdk-static, there is a dependency problem. jdk-common said it depends on jdk-static and jdk-static said it depends on jdk-common. As the result, both packages are left unconfigured. Could someone over there help me get this problem solved? Thanks in advance -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tar dumps core
Daniel There is a buffer-overrun bug in (non-Debianized) tar-1.11.8 Daniel that involves the -M flag. Daniel Does anyone know if Debian patches this bug? Debian definitely has this bug. -- Billy C.-M. Chow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Systems Engineering The Chinese University of Hong Kong -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dpkg-1.4.0.6
Alex Romosan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i am really puzzled by the behaviour of the latest dpkg. why did dselect automatically upgrade mailx from 8.5.5-1 to 8.1.1-2 as per example: The new mailx is version `1:8.1.1-2', not `8.1.1-2'. 1:8.1.1-2 7.5.5-1. If you type `dpkg --status mailx' you will see the epoch. You won't see it in the filename. Read Chapter 5 of the dpkg programmer's manual for more info on epochs. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jdk-common and jdk-static, which one goes first???
This is definitely a bug. You can get around to it by using the -force-depends option to dpkg. Here's another problem. The kaffe package (which provides a JIT compiler) doesn't update the links in /etc/alternatives. -- Jaldhar On Thu, 16 Jan 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just installed debian-1.2. The X windows and Netscape work well. Thanks for people who made these packages. When i try jdk-common and jdk-static, there is a dependency problem. jdk-common said it depends on jdk-static and jdk-static said it depends on jdk-common. As the result, both packages are left unconfigured. Could someone over there help me get this problem solved? Thanks in advance -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I cannot upgrade from 2.0.0 to 2.0.27
On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, Paul Christenson wrote: On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, Daniel J. Mashao wrote: Can anybody tell me what I need to successfully upgrade from 2.0.0 to 2.0.27. When I run dpkg on the kerneld package it says every is fine but unfortunately my sound, cd-rom and floppies stops working. Anyone? You _did_ run 'make config' (or 'make menuconfig') to tell it to add support for those devices, didn't you? No i did not run anything. I installed from a CD which had Debian with kernel 2.0.0. I wanted to upgrade to 2.0.27 so I just ftped the file kernel-image-2.0.27_1.00.deb and ran dpkg on it. It seemed like everything was fine but then I could not use my floppies etc. I thought that just getting the file and running dpkg would simply upgrade me to the latest kernel, but apparently that is not the case. // D.J. Mashao, [EMAIL PROTECTED], -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults
Philippe Troin wrote: On Thu, 16 Jan 1997 18:37:46 EST Daniel S. Barclay ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: In Debian Linux, do files in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/ get read or not? Definitely yes. Never say never and never say always ;)...see below ---[ nice description of how things are _supposed_ to work snipped]--- The Xresources file is loaded into the server by the X init scripts with xrdb -merge. You may customize several applications into this file, eg: XTerm*background:red Xload*background: blue The precedence is: 1) resources passed in the command line 2) resources read in the X database (ie the /etc/X11/Xresources file) 3) static application resources in the app-defaults directory. Hope that helps... Phil. I'm running a nearly vanilla Debian 1.2 system and my xrdb -merge is broken! This may explain all the postings about app-defaults and Xresourses not seeming to work. To get /etc/X11/Xsession to merge Xresources correctly, I changed xrdb -merge foo to xrdb -cpp /usr/bin/cpp -merge foo everywhere. The problem seems to be related to the fact that /lib/cpp is a symbolic link to /usr/bin/cpp. I don't know why this should matter but it seems to. Is anyone else havingthis problem too? Try: xrdb -merge /etc/X11/Xresources and see if you get a Segmentation fault. If you do then you have the same problem I do and xrdb -cpp /usr/bin/cpp -merge /etc/X11/Xresources will probably work just fine. It would be nice if some people try this and post results to the list. --Bob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: setting up authentification for reading news
my news server requires that I use authentification to identify myself.
I've been told that a number of windows news readers will do this.
Any suggestions on how to set this up under linux.
Here's a crude hack you might try. It's a simple server run out of inetd. It
receives incoming connections from your news software, opens a connection to
the real news server, sends the username and password, then just forwards
data between your newsreader and the server. The new server receives your
username and password, even though your news reader software isn't smart
enough to send it.
Adjust the username, password, and server for your situation. Then, add an
apropriate entry in /etc/inetd.conf to run this script on the nntp port, and
hup inetd. Configure your news reader software to use localhost as the
news server, and you're set.
WARNING: This will accept connections from _anywhere_, not just software
running on your machine. You really should use something like tcp wrappers
to prevent outsiders from accessing this.
Standard disclaimer: This might not work. Or worse. Use at your own risk.
#!/bin/perl
require 5.002;
use Socket;
$SIG{'INT'}='dokill';
sub dokill { kill 9, $child if $child; }
$hostname=yourhost.domain.com;
$iaddr = inet_aton(YourNewsServer) || die No host: $servname;
$paddr = sockaddr_in(119, $iaddr);
$proto = getprotobyname('tcp');
socket(SOCK, PF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, $proto) || die socket: $!;
connect(SOCK, $paddr) || die connect: $!;
select(SOCK);$|=1;
select(STDOUT);$|=1;
print SOCK AUTHINFO user YourUserName\nAUTHINFO pass YourPassWord\n;
do {
$_ = SOCK;
if (/^200 / || /^201 /) {
print STDOUT $_;
}
} while (!/^281 /);
if ($child=fork()) {
while (STDIN) {
print SOCK $_;
}
}
else {
while(SOCK) {
print STDOUT $_;
}
}
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Re: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults
On Fri, 17 Jan 1997 01:26:54 EST Bob Clark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I'm running a nearly vanilla Debian 1.2 system and my xrdb -merge is broken! This may explain all the postings about app-defaults and Xresourses not seeming to work. To get /etc/X11/Xsession to merge Xresources correctly, I changed xrdb -merge foo to xrdb -cpp /usr/bin/cpp -merge foo everywhere. The problem seems to be related to the fact that /lib/cpp is a symbolic link to /usr/bin/cpp. I don't know why this should matter but it seems to. Is anyone else havingthis problem too? Try: [snipped] This was an early problem of Debian 1.2. Try to upgrade to 1.2.3 (latest) or even 1.2.2 should fix the problem... Phil. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Getting a good X-Face...
Does anyone have a good procedure for making a decent face file? As you can see with the proper tools, I've managed to create one, but the dithering is pretty bad. Has anyone else out there made a face, and if so, how'd you do it. For informational purposes, the current face started out as a 320x240 pgm file, courtesy of a connectix quickcam (Using the Linux drivers :). I cut it to 160x160, scaled it to 48x48, and quantized it to 4 grays with acceptable results. The sticker seems to be getting the 4 grays - b/w dither to produce good results. -Larry -- Larry Daffner| Linux: Unleash the workstation in your PC! [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://web2.airmail.net/vizzie/ Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway. -- Andrew Tanenbaum -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults
As I understand it, the latter of your examples applies, the different levels are parsed subsequently: o first, the resources in '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults' o then the resources in '/etc/X11/Xresources' I think it's the same as with user files like '~/.Xresources' or '~/.Xdefaults' where entries in these files override the respective entries in '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/*' Regards, Andree -- | Institute of Geophysics phone: +49 40 4123 4389 ANDREE LEIDENFROST | University of Hamburg fax: +49 40 4123 5441 Geophysicist | Bundesstrasse 55 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | D-20146 Hamburgwww: www.app-geoph.dkrz.de -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cdrom block device
I am doing a new install with debian 1.2.1 and the 1997-04-01 base diskettes. The boot recognizes my cdrom at sr0, but I cannot mount it - finding no appropriate block device in /dev. My guess is that I should be using the 1996-12-8 set. What is the verdict? don't you mean /dev/scd0 ? Hamish -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do access hda, fd0, etc. ?
If any text files are involved, the different newline characters in dos and linux can cause problems. Adding the conversion option to the file system specification in the mount command can reduce that problem. Try: mount -t msdos -o defaults,conv=auto /dev/hda1 /mnt I think the 'conv=auto' options is now default for msdos and vfat file systems. If sometimes you *don't* want this, Not here, it doesn't seem to be. In my experience, conv=auto is bad news because the file size reflects actual size, not number of bytes which are readable. InfoZIP zip for example will complain bitterly when reading a text file that the number of bytes expected (from the file size) was more than actually readable (due to CR/LF - CR translation). Better just to use tr when you need to move files over. tr -d '\015' in out works fine. hamish -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cdrom block device
On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, Richard Sevenich wrote: I am doing a new install with debian 1.2.1 and the 1997-04-01 base diskettes. The boot recognizes my cdrom at sr0, but I cannot mount it - finding no appropriate block device in /dev. My guess is that I should be using the 1996-12-8 set. What is the verdict? Regards, Richard Well I had the same problem (don't remember the date of the boot set) but I used MAKEDEV to explicitely make the cdrom devices and the it was ok. it made scd0 - scd7 devices wich are cdrom type -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ciao, --- Geert Esger Raestel.: (+32) 820 26 66 Centrum Medische Genetica fax.: (+32) 820 25 66 Universiteit Antwerpen UIA E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Universiteitsplein 1 WWW: http://bioc-www.uia.ac.be/u/esger 2610 Wilrijk --- E-music on the Net : http://bioc-www.uia.ac.be/u/esger/emusic --- People talking about the environment ought to read The Sheep Look Up by John Brunner, then they'll know what pollution is. --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dselect for newbies
Well, what I did is just download ppp.deb onto a DOS disk. Then before running dselect after rebooting into Debian for the first time, I just dpkg -i the PPP package and start PPP. dselect is perfectly capable of running very nicely in this setting. Just select FTP as the method, select update, select selecT if desired, and then go to Install. Works nicely for me. Regards, John Goerzen -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: setting up authentification for reading news
my news server requires that I use authentification to identify myself. I've been told that a number of windows news readers will do this. Any suggestions on how to set this up under linux. This would depend upon which news reader you are using. In Tin, you create a .newsauth file; in SLRN, it is an entry in .slrnrc. See the manpages for those programs for more detail. Search for authentication. -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is Linux much easier to install on 68k or PPC?
On Wed, 15 Jan 1997, Hamish Moffatt wrote: system is a 486-33 motherboard and cpu I got for nothing, 12mb of RAM, 4mb in 30 pin simms, cranky old IDEs, a soundblaster This is somewhat pushing the limits but still a very reasonable use for an old machine with just enough resources to make it a pity to throw it away but not enough to use it as a primary machine (even after upgrades). I don't throw anything away :-) Until recently this machine was a 386dx40 with 8mb; the upgrade was one of circumstance, rather than need. I still have two 386-40 boards in the cupboard. My XT is setting on the floor next to me. It gets fired up to test new versions of ELKS, the linux for 8086 project. It has a 3C501 card in it, the one the HOWTOs warn you never to buy, even for a joke. :-) hamish -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Diald Problems....
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kevin Traas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|| Although things work, I do have some strange messages appearing in
|| /var/log/messages. Although things seem to be working okay, I think
|| they're probably something that should be looked into. Can you shed any
|| light on this?
[Log cut]
|| So, I'm quite happy in that things are working; however, I feel I should be
|| concerned about the PPP network layer died, but link did not. Probable
|| configuration error. messages and how the sequence repeats 3 or 4
|| times
I think you mentioned in another message that you were using diald
0.14-8. This looks suspiciouly like the bug in diald I posted a fix for
(in linux.dev.diald). Here it is again. It's supposed to be fixed in
diald 0.15, but I haven't looked yet. The bug's no problem if you don't
use ip-up, I think, but if you do use ip-up, you had better apply the
patch. Or upgrade to diald 0.15, last version. :-)
Cheers. Vincent.
EFFECT
The best noticeable effect of the bug is multiple spawns of the ip-up
script, usually shortly after connection setup.
CAUSE
When diald receives a packet on the proxy device while PPP ought to be
up, it suspects that PPP has gone down again. It checks this assumption
by reading the output of route -n. If this output indeed shows PPP
to be down, diald waits for PPP to come back up.
The bug causes diald to fail to detect the PPP interface in the route
-n output. Hence, it assumes wrongly that PPP is down. When it
later detects that PPP is up, it re-spawns the ip-up script, which is
superfluous since PPP actually never was down.
PATCH (what you've all been waiting for :-)
This patch was made for the Debian source distribution of diald-0.14.
--- ppp.c.orig Thu Apr 4 13:36:52 1996
+++ ppp.c Thu Sep 5 21:40:36 1996
@@ -200,7 +200,7 @@ int ppp_route_exists()
}
while (fgets(buf,128,fp)) {
- if (sscanf(buf,%*s %*s %*s %*s %*s %*s %*s ppp%d,device) == 8) {
+ if (sscanf(buf,%*s %*s %*s %*s %*s %*s %*s ppp%d,device) == 1) {
if (device == link_iface) found = 1;
}
}
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Making kernel using make install
When making a kernel 2.0.27 I do the following: make mrproper make config make dep make clean make zImage make modules make modules_install make install The make install is not documented in the /usr/src/linux directory as far as I know but when it is used it seems to put everything from the new kernel where it belongs properly in the /boot directory and lets you update lilo as well. I just tried doing this for the hell of it and it seems to work very well. Is this a new feature? Is it OK to do this or are there possible problems? What exactly does make install do? Victor Torrico -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fw: Novell and Linux
I was recently approached by a customer who is wanting to bring his Linux system to work. His dilemma is that we use a Novell network using a NDS There are a few Debian packages that do this automatically; I just recently installed ncpfs and ipx, and with a simple ncpmount -S MY_SERVER -U MY_USER /home/mydir/mynovelldir, I had mounted my server's directory. :) Last I heard, the linux netware (ncpfs) support only works for bindery servers, and does not support NDS (directory services). Hence you can't connect to a 4.x server. Caldera have a client in their CND 1.0 which supports NDS, but it is commercial. hamish -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mount/unmount scripts
Here are some shell scripts for mounting and unmounting DOS CDROM stuff. My DOS partition is /dev/hda1 and the cdrom drive is /dev/hdb. If yours is different, change the scripts to match your equipment. I keep these in the /root directory and use su - to access them. I'm working on automounting these devices so that I can dispose of these scripts. c.on --- ## Mount C: (/dev/hda1) to /C directory (mkdir /C) mount -t msdos -o user /dev/hda1 /C echo C drive now connected to /C c.off -- ## Unmount C: from /C directory umount /dev/hda1 echo C drive now disconnected from /C cdrom.on --- ## Mount CDROM drive to /cdrom (already in root directory) mount -t iso9660 -r /dev/hdb /cdrom echo CDRom connected to /cdrom cdrom.off -- ## Unmount CDROM drive from /cdrom umount /dev/hdb echo CDrom drive now disconnected from /cdrom floppy.on -- ## Mount 3 1/2 DOS floppy in drive A: to /floppy mount -t msdos /dev/fd0H1440 /floppy echo Floppy drive now connected to /floppy floppy.off - ## Unmount 3 1/2 floppy from /floppy umount /dev/fd0H1440 echo Floppy drive now disconnected from /floppy -- -= Sent by Debian 1.2 Linux =- Thomas Kocourek KD4CIK [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Laptop power managment
Hi, I get an 'unknown interrupt' when my laptop system returns from hybernation mode. The message is not important but my system halts after it. It does not resume processing. Does anybody have any ideas ? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD-ROM -- how to mount, etc.
I have an IDE atapi cdrom drive which is found when linux starts up: hca: CD-ROM CDR_S16, ATAPI CDROM DRIVE. But, I can't mount /dev/cdrom /cdrom. Neither can I use CDPLAY. Could it possibly be since mcdx doesn't find the drive? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I don't know how to use CD-ROMs, because I don't have one, but message hca: CD-ROM CDR_S16, ATAPI CDROM DRIVE seems to say that the device is /dev/hca, and not /dev/cdrom. Try: mount -t isofs /dev/hca /cdrom I think isofs is the correct file system type. If not, see the mount manual page. Also, what is the linux equivelant to config.sys, I want to be able to remove some of the call to drivers when linux starts up, I only have about 20 devices, but linux attempts to load about 50. Well, Linux is a little more complicated to configure than a simple config.sys file like in MSDOS. *If* the drivers that you don't want are compilated as modules, then you can edit the file /etc/modules and comment them with #. But *if* they are hard compiled in kernel, you need to compile a new kernel by yourself. You'll need these packages: gcc cpp binutils bin86 tk40 tcl74 xlib libc5-dev ncurses3.0-dev kernel-source-2.0.27 tk40-dev tcl74-dev When *all* of them where installed, go to /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.27 and do: make menuconfig and select what your kernel need, then, do: make dep make clean make zImage when all is finished, do this: cp /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.27/arch/i386/boot/zImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.27 cp /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.27/System.map /boot/System.map-2.0.27 rm /vmlinuz rm /System.map ln -s /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.27 /vmlinuz ln -s /boot/System.map-2.0.27 /System.map then do this: mv /boot/modules/2.0.27 /boot/modules/old-2.0.27 and then: make modules make modules-install when all is done, run: lilo and you can boot your system, with your new kernel. If the kernel is not what you want, do these commands again, to make a new kernel. Well, when the kernel is loaded, the files in the directory /etc/rc.boot are executed. You can edit these files, remove them or add new ones, wich do the job of configuring many thing in the system, like the serial ports. As with config.sys and autoexec.bat, do a backup of them, but in another directory. When these configuration ends, the files in the directories /etc/init.d are executed by the symlinks in the directories /etc/rc?.d, in which the ? in a number betwen 0 and 6, which represent the runlevel of the system. The login prompt and other things are in runlevel 2, so the commands from /etc/rc0.d to /etc/rc2.d are executed. The symlinks in these directories start with S or K, have a number, and the name of the file in /etc/init.d. The symlinks with K (from kill) are executed first, in numeric order, with the parameter stop, and then the symlinks with S (from start), in numeric order, with the parameter start. So, the symlinks in rc0.d, rc1.d, and rc2.d are executed, and them the prompt apears. When you shutdown, reboot or do a Ctrl-Alt-Del, the symlinks in /etc/rc6.d are executed. You can see many lines in your screen, with the first saying something like Switching to run-level 6 If you want to know what these symlinks with start and stop parameters do, look at the real files in /etc/init.d When you login, if you're using bash, the file /etc/profile is executed, then ~/.bash_profile, then ~/.bashrc. The file ~/.bash_profile is executed only in the main login, but the file ~/.bashrc is executed by every new bash that you run. It's simple, don't is? ;) Alexander Gieg =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= By: Alexander Gieg E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/3222 IRC: AlexG =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= There will be a time in which *all* the computers in the Earth will be using Linux! Amen! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: automatic mounting of CDs
Your intention is clear, I do not get your point. (Doesn't that sound contradictory :-} ) Just use the configuration files I posted before. They work - at least for me - of course you may need to change the device and stuff. And again, if this is not enough, RTFM, especially: o /usr/doc/amd/README.debian o the manual, especially the introductory pages and the part about filesystems, i. e. 'ufs' and (this is a new one) o /usr/doc/HOWTO/NET-2-HOWTO.gz (the part about amd) Additionally, you could describe a bit more precisely in which way it fails to work. Regards, Andree -- | Institute of Geophysics phone: +49 40 4123 4389 ANDREE LEIDENFROST | University of Hamburg fax: +49 40 4123 5441 Geophysicist | Bundesstrasse 55 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | D-20146 Hamburgwww: www.app-geoph.dkrz.de -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Running programmes under Linux
I want to know if it's possible to run binary from other PC Unix system under Linux, for instance, some SCO UNIX X win applications under Linux. Do we need to build a library for that? Or even an interpretator? -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Seak Teng-Fong E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bât 507 DRFC / SPPFTel: 33 (0) 4 42256125 CE / Cadarache Fax: 33 (0) 4 42256233 13108 Saint Paul lez Durance Cedex FRANCE -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How do I get back my LINUX
I was trying to make my own rescue disk using Yard-1.7. The kernel + root disk that it prepared would not fit in 2 diskettes. On checking a few things, I noticed that my LINUX did not have RAMDISK configured into it. So I ran make config and edited Makefile uncommenting RAMDISK giving it size as 2048. At the same time added busmouse (now that I have a busmose after acquiring a 2nd modem). Then make dep, clean, zImage. It failed . mentioning stuff like core dump etc. Anyway I wanted my old LINUX back. So I edited lilo.conf to reflect 2.0.6 instead of 2.0.13 (I had 2.0.13 running when compile failed.) PROBLEM: I forgot to run lilo before rebooting. On rebooting I was greeted by crc error . System halted. Only way out was hard reset. I thought I could just use my BOOT ROOT diskettes to fix things. I got in and shelled out. Mounted the filesystem on the HD. and tried to run lilo after copying boot.b to /boot. That got me: Don't know how to handle device 0x100 How can I get back my LINUX? I spent a lot of time setting it up. I hate to think that I may have to start over. Best regards Chuma Agbodike -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cron.daily et al.
Hi, There might be a problem with the execution of the cron.daily, cron.weekly, and cron.monthly : An machines that don't run all day, these cron jobs get rarely executed. For instance, I usually use my maschine only in the evenings at home (i.e. later than 6 pm). But all cron get executed at 6pm. Therefore these cron task get never executed. How about a (cron) job, that executed every time the machine gets booted and that checks when the cron jobs were executed for the last time. If these for were not executed for say two days (weeks, months) then they get executed regardless the actual hour, day, week of month. What do you people think? --jan Jan Camenisch Institut fuer theor. Informatik Tel. +41 1 632 7412 ETH Zentrum, IFW Fax. +41 1 632 1172 CH-8092 Zurich, Switzerlande-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - URL of my hompage http://www.inf.ethz.ch/personal/camenisc -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD-ROM -- how to mount, etc.
Alexander Gieg wrote: I don't know how to use CD-ROMs, because I don't have one, but message hca: CD-ROM CDR_S16, ATAPI CDROM DRIVE seems to say that the device is /dev/hca, and not /dev/cdrom. Try: mount -t isofs /dev/hca /cdrom I think isofs is the correct file system type. If not, see the mount manual page. That's iso9660. Well, Linux is a little more complicated to configure than a simple config.sys file like in MSDOS. *If* the drivers that you don't want are compilated as modules, then you can edit the file /etc/modules and comment them with #. But *if* they are hard compiled in kernel, you need to compile a new kernel by yourself. You'll need these packages: gcc cpp binutils bin86 tk40 tcl74 xlib libc5-dev ncurses3.0-dev kernel-source-2.0.27 tk40-dev tcl74-dev When *all* of them where installed, go to /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.27 and do: make menuconfig and select what your kernel need, then, do: make dep make clean make zImage when all is finished, do this: cp /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.27/arch/i386/boot/zImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.27 cp /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.27/System.map /boot/System.map-2.0.27 rm /vmlinuz rm /System.map ln -s /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.27 /vmlinuz ln -s /boot/System.map-2.0.27 /System.map I use lilo, so I don't know the procedure. But all these cp, rm and ln, do you really need to do them manually? They don't seem to consist an orthodox procedure. For me, after make clean; make dep , I just need to make zlilo and everything will be in place: old vmlinuz is moved to vmlinuz.old, System.map is created, etc. then do this: mv /boot/modules/2.0.27 /boot/modules/old-2.0.27 and then: make modules make modules-install when all is done, run: lilo and you can boot your system, with your new kernel. If the kernel is not what you want, do these commands again, to make a new kernel. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Seak Teng-Fong E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bât 507 DRFC / SPPFTel: 33 (0) 4 42256125 CE / Cadarache Fax: 33 (0) 4 42256233 13108 Saint Paul lez Durance Cedex FRANCE -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Making kernel using make install
On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, Victor Torrico wrote: When making a kernel 2.0.27 I do the following: make mrproper make config make dep make clean make zImage make modules make modules_install make install The make install is not documented in the /usr/src/linux directory as far as I know but when it is used it seems to put everything from the new kernel where it belongs properly in the /boot directory and lets you update lilo as well. I just tried doing this for the hell of it and it seems to work very well. Ah-hah! Finally, what seems to be a simple sequence of commands for building a new kernel. But what must I do to ensure that my old kernel will continue to work (with its modules), especially if lilo wants to complain that the new kernel is too large? I assume that certain files and directories ought to be backed up or renamed or something, but some pointers to safe kernel testing would be very helpful! --Pete ___ Peter J. Templin, Jr. Client Services Analyst Computer Communication Services tel: (717) 524-1590 Bucknell University [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian1.2 on InfoMagic doesn't install properly
Hi there, Sad new. It seems like Debian1.2 on the Dec 1996 InfoMagic CD ROM is kind of broken: the X stuffs just would not install properly !!! A guy in our lab was going to install linux on one of the PC. Since I am a happy Debain user, I suggested him to try Debain. Unfortunately, while deselecting packages, some complains about 'X11R6 not available' even though xbase3.2 version 3.2-1a is selected. Does xbase3.2 not provide/replace X11R6 ?? Below is what xbase3.2 looks in Packages file, --- Package: xbase Version: 3.2-1a Priority: optional Section: x11 Maintainer: Stephen Early [EMAIL PROTECTED] Depends: libc5 (= 5.2.18), ncurses3.0, xlib6 (= 3.2-0), cpp Recommends: xserver-vga16 | xserver Conflicts: xdependencies, xstd, xbaseR6 Provides: xbaseR6 Replaces: xdependencies, xstd, xbaseR6 Architecture: i386 Filename: frozen/binary-i386/x11/xbase_3.2-1a.deb msdos-filename: frozen/msdos-i386/x11/xbase.deb --- An example package which complains about X11R6 is xasteroids version 5.0 whose description in the Packages file is : --- Package: xasteroids Version: 5.0 Priority: optional Section: games Maintainer: Klee Dienes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Depends: libc5, X11R6, elf-x11r6lib Filename: frozen/binary-i386/games/xasteroids_5.0-4.deb msdos-filename: frozen/msdos-i386/games/xasterod.deb Anyway, the guy couldn't get Debain installed properly on the PC and I am too new to Debian to help him to sort the problem out quick enough!! He eventually went for Slackware and he is now a happy Slackware user !! I am quite sure the Debain team has done proper testing on the installion before releasing it on CD ROM. I wonder if anyone out there have encounterd similar problems with the same CD ROM set ?? It is kind of sad really because this is the 1st of many PCs round here which he is going to put Linux on. I am a bit frustrated because I would like to see Debian running on all the PCs but was unable to help him sorting out the installion problems quick enough. Well, any comments, explanations, fixes?? Thanks a lot H.C.Lai -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cron.daily et al.
On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, Jan Camenisch wrote: Hi, There might be a problem with the execution of the cron.daily, cron.weekly, and cron.monthly : An machines that don't run all day, these cron jobs get rarely executed. For instance, I usually use my maschine only in the evenings at home (i.e. later than 6 pm). But all cron get executed at 6pm. Therefore these cron task get never executed. How about a (cron) job, that executed every time the machine gets booted and that checks when the cron jobs were executed for the last time. If these for were not executed for say two days (weeks, months) then they get executed regardless the actual hour, day, week of month. I second this. --- Jean Pierre -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: cron.daily et al.
Jan Camenisch wrote: There might be a problem with the execution of the cron.daily, cron.weekly, and cron.monthly : An machines that don't run all day, these cron jobs get rarely executed. For instance, I usually use my maschine only in the evenings at home (i.e. later than 6 pm). But all cron get executed at 6pm. Therefore these cron task get never executed. How about a (cron) job, that executed every time the machine gets booted and that checks when the cron jobs were executed for the last time. If these for were not executed for say two days (weeks, months) then they get executed regardless the actual hour, day, week of month. I heard of a program called anacron to solve just this problem, but I don't think it's available as a Debian package, yet. Maybe someone here knows where to get it? Otherwise, you could try comp.unix.admin or gopher. Casper Boden-Cummins. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cron.daily et al.
On Jan 17, Jan Camenisch wrote [cron suggestion for machines that don't run all day] How about a (cron) job, that executed every time the machine gets booted and that checks when the cron jobs were executed for the last time. If these for were not executed for say two days (weeks, months) then they get executed regardless the actual hour, day, week of month. It looks a lot like you're reinventing the anacron package. HTH, Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Making kernel using make install
Victor Torrico [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What exactly does make install do? See installkernel(8) and mkboot(8). Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Making kernel using make install
On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, Pete Templin wrote: Hi there, Ah-hah! Finally, what seems to be a simple sequence of commands for building a new kernel. But what must I do to ensure that my old kernel will continue to work (with its modules), especially if lilo wants to complain that the new kernel is too large? I assume that certain files and directories ought to be backed up or renamed or something, but some pointers to safe kernel testing would be very helpful! Every kernel release gets its own direcory in /etc/modules/ So no need to backup the modules. The new directory gets created with make modules_install Yours, -- martin +++ the KDE project mailing lists +++ kde-announce (Announcements)kde (general discussion) kde-devel (Development issues) kde-look (look and feel issues) To subscribe (unsubscribe), send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with empty subject line and subscribe (unsubscribe) [your-email-address] in the message body -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two last problems...
Paul Rightley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The first problem is that syslogd is keeping the load on my machine at 1.0 even if nothin else is happenning with the system. At the same time I get huge numbers of 'The last message repeated 123456 times' appearing in /var/log/messages' Is there a way to get syslogd to work correctly? This happens when one of the directories listed in /etc/syslog.conf doesn't exist. /var/log/news is usually the culprit. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I cannot upgrade from 2.0.0 to 2.0.27
On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, Daniel J. Mashao wrote: You _did_ run 'make config' (or 'make menuconfig') to tell it to add support for those devices, didn't you? I just ftped the file kernel-image-2.0.27_1.00.deb and ran dpkg on it. I have never used the kernel_image packages, as I always compile my own. |This is OFFICIAL WRITTEN notification that I want to be REMOVED| |from ALL commercial mailing lists. EVERY message sent from this | | account has had this request posted. ALL UNSOLICITED ADVERTISEMENTS | | SENT TO THIS ACCOUNT ARE IN VIOLATION OF FEDERAL (U.S.) LAW. | | Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of Cyclades Corporation. | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: the /etc/messages file
Daniel J. Mashao [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jan 17 11:28:58 unix kernel: klogd 1.3-0, log source = /proc/kmsg started. Jan 17 11:28:59 unix kernel: Cannot find map file. What does it mean when it says it cannot find map file? klogd will look for a map file in /boot/System.map, /System.map, /usr/src/linux/System.map. See its man page. Can't help you with the floppy drive. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] From miss Received: from mongo.pixar.com (138.72.50.60) by master.debian.org with SMTP; 17 Jan 1997 20:35:15 - Received: (qmail 6377 invoked from network); 17 Jan 1997 20:07:38 - Received: from primer.i-connect.net (HELO master.debian.org) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by mongo.pixar.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 1997 20:07:38 - Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:34:33 -0500 From: Ami Ganguli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Ganguli Consulting Inc. X-Sender: Ami Ganguli [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Is Linux much easier to install on 68k or PPC? X-Priority: Normal References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: c7gZ12.0.ev6.vmzto@master.debian.org Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org Resent-Reply-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: debian-user@lists.debian.org archive/latest/3780 X-Loop: debian-user@lists.debian.org Precedence: list Priority: non-urgent Importance: low Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stephen Zander wrote: Linux on an 8086??? That goes to the top of my list of truely perverse activities :) I thought so too at first, but think of it: Linux on your palmtop, Linux in your watch, Linux in your microwave, ... cool. ... Ami. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two last problems...
On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, Paul Rightley wrote: The first problem is that syslogd is keeping the load on my machine at 1.0 even if nothin else is happenning with the system. At the same time I get huge numbers of 'The last message repeated 123456 times' appearing in /var/log/messages' Is there a way to get syslogd to work correctly? Please check your logfile. Which message was repeated 123456 times? You hace to resolve this problem which does cause the message? Maybe you installed some sw and removed it afterwards? // Martin Konold,Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3c509 card trouble?
On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, David Wright wrote: Sometimes two or three times a day, this appears on the console (I extracted this from /var/log/messages and wrapped a few lines): kernel: invalid operand: kernel: CPU:0 kernel: EIP:0010:[0017] kernel: EFLAGS: 00010207 Please report problems of this kind to Linus or Alan. [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Maintaining multiple Debian boxes
I just made a debian-sysadmins Mailing list. +++ the debian-sysadmins mailing list +++ To subscribe (unsubscribe), send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with empty subject line and subscribe (unsubscribe) [your-email-address] in the message body -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting a good X-Face...
Larry wrote: Does anyone have a good procedure for making a decent face file? As you can see with the proper tools, I've managed to create one, but the dithering is pretty bad. Has anyone else out there made a face, and if so, how'd you do it. I just made mine a few days ago. I'm not sure if it's any good, but here's how I did it. I used hpscanpbm to scan in a crummy photo of myself (in color) - cranked up the brightness. Then I used the imagemagick tools to increase the contrast a few times. Then I converted it to monochrome. I think the procedure will be different depending on the quality of the original picture. For example, I had some success by simply reducing the number of colors (using the -colors 2 option for mogrify) instead of dithering. I made a little script to simplify experimentation: cp jimhead1.pbm jimtemp.pbm ; mogrify -contrast jimtemp.pbm ; mogrify jimtemp.pb m ; mogrify -contrast -contrast -contrast jimtemp.pbm ; mogrify -monochrome jimt emp.pbm cp jimtemp.pbm jimhead2.pbm ; display jimhead2.pbm Then I used an xbm2xface.pl script I found on the net (from an emacs or xemacs FAQ I think) to create the actual X-Face string. For some reason, doing 'cat jimhead2.pbm | pbmtoicon | compface' didn't work for me. Hope this helps. Cheers, - Jim pgpZwh3SSO2yT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Another network forwarding question.
I was trying to set up a debian box as a gateway from a small 4-bit subnet to a larger 8-bit (class C?) subnet. I have the kernel configured properly (I think), and I have the two network interfaces on the gateway and the routes set up. From one of the machines on the 4-bit subnet I can ping all the other machines there, and the gateway machine, including both of the gateway's interface addresses, the one on the subnet, and the one on the external net. However, I can't ping any other machines on the external net. I have used tcpdump on the gateway machine to see that the pings are going out, but that the higher level gateway on the external net is sending arp lookup packets for the machines on our 4-bit net, and getting no response. Our administrators said that our gateway machine should be responding to these arp packets for all the machines on our 4-bit subnet, but it's not. Can someone how I can make this happen? Thanks -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SECURITY: Important bug fix for /sbin/login (fwd)
On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, Ricardo Kleemann wrote: Guys, has this been fixed in debian? If not, can anyone explain how to install an rpm package so I can try out rpm within debian? ;-) Try alien. I think it's in debmake, but a quick check of the contents file should let you know. Luck, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 If you don't see what you want, just ask -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can any one recommend a mailreader...
walter == Walter Tautz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: other than pine. I would like a simple curses based reader I use Gnus, which these days comes with emacs. It (emacs) runs on almost any terminal or in a window - does that satisfy your curses needs?. A word of caution - if you are not an emacs fan, Gnus may not be for you - on the other hand, it may make you an emacs fan. that easily allows one to configure the mail to read automatically into separate folders depending on the address it came from, It allows your to split mail automatically into folders according to regular expressions. allows filename completion when reading files in or when going to different folders,etc. Gnus uses the usual emacs expansion so that's no problem. Preferably any configuration should be built into the interface itself, i.e. it would be nice to avoid editing a configuration file directly. -Walter Some configuration is available by using the cleverly named configure command. I edit my mail splitting by hand, but since gnus runs as part of emacs, which is originally an editor, editing is a pretty straight forward. The system I intend to run it on is the university system running slackware. Should be able to run emacs on that. There is a Gnus faq posted regularly to gnu.emacs.gnus that can get you started if you are interested. Mike -- Michael A. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nuclear Physics Lab, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign PGP public key available on request -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dselect ftp from behind a firewall (fwd)
[apologies if this is the second time you've seen this. I had a sendmail problem.] Thanks to all the people who replied on the list and by mail. Unfortunately the problem is that this particular firewall (ANS Interlock) requires you to login to the firewall first and then access the ftp site. Luckily I discovered that dselect uses a perl script to actually do the ftping based on the Net::FTP module. So I thought I'd just edit it to add the second login. Unfortunate, I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get it to accept the second password. Oh well, that's a question for the perl groups. I think I've found a good alternative. I noticed lynx has the right kind of settings to get through the firewall. It also supports ftp URLs. So what I've done is to rewrite dselects script to go through lynx. It seems to be working but I'll test and polish it a bit more and if all goes well, i'll submit as a new access method. -- Jaldhar -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with syslogd
Dany Dionne wrote: Hi, syslogd overloads our debian box ( pentium 100 with 32 megs ram) The cpu load goes up to 90% because of syslogd Anyone have idea to solve the problem? Thanks in advance, Dany Dionne Physics Department Universite Laval sysklogd is trying to write to files which are non-existant in the /var/log directory. You can determine what files with their associated paths are missing by opening the file /etc/init.d/sysklogd in a text editor and looking for these same files in /var/log. Any which do not appear in /var/log should be generated as empty files with the command touch /var/log/filename where filename is the name of each missing file. This should cure the problem. Cheers, Victor Torrico -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with syslogd
Victor Torrico wrote: Dany Dionne wrote: Hi, syslogd overloads our debian box ( pentium 100 with 32 megs ram) The cpu load goes up to 90% because of syslogd Anyone have idea to solve the problem? Thanks in advance, Dany Dionne Physics Department Universite Laval sysklogd is trying to write to files which are non-existant in the /var/log directory. You can determine what files with their associated paths are missing by opening the file /etc/init.d/sysklogd in a text editor and looking for these same files in /var/log. Any which do not appear in /var/log should be generated as empty files with the command touch /var/log/filename where filename is the name of each missing file. This should cure the problem. Cheers, Victor Torrico Oops! I goofed. Anywhere /var/log appears should read /var/run. Victor Torrico -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian1.2 on InfoMagic doesn't install properly
On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, H C Lai wrote: kind of broken: the X stuffs just would not install properly !!! Check the Debian ftp site, there is some directory that discusses problems with links. To come to think about it may be i-Connect CDs. I am sorry I cannot give you more details. A guy in our lab was going to install linux on one of the PC. Since I am a happy Debain user, I suggested him to try Debain. That what gets me with Debian. There seems to be happy users but for some of us the system seems not to work well. I may be among those who feel Debian has a long way to go and it may better to use other distributions. I tried upgrading to 2.0.27 and now my system does not work properly. Its a good idea but not there yet. enough!! He eventually went for Slackware and he is now a happy Slackware user !! I am not suprised I may soon join him. here which he is going to put Linux on. I am a bit frustrated because I would like to see Debian running on all the PCs but was unable to help him sorting out the installion problems quick enough. // D.J. Mashao, [EMAIL PROTECTED], -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with 1.2 Install Disks
On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, Kevin Traas wrote: I've heard of others having problems with getting a working version of the installation disks and I've tried doing what was suggested in each case - download the image and write to a fresh floppy and try again - however, that hasn't been helping in my case. The boot/rescue disk works perfectly for me. No problems there. I can go through the boot routine, initialize the hard disk, etc, but when I try to read in the base floppies, I get errors every time. In re-creating the disks, I've experienced minor variations on when the errors occur. Sometimes, it won't even begin to read the first disk while other times, I might get error messages, but it'll continue to read the disk almost all the way through. But, no matter how far it gets on this first disk, it doesn't complete it. I should mention that I'm writing this message at work and I've been experiencing the problems at home - which is where I have the exact error message written down... grin... so I can't quote it here, but it's pretty cryptic - not much english in the messages. Nothing obvious like Data error reading, writing, Media error, etc... The installation always ends in a kernel panic and I have to reboot. The particular system I'm currently working on is a 386SX/25, 8MB, 210MB IDE, 1.44MB FD. I've been able to get around this by installing 1.1 (no complaints there) and then upgrading via FTP to 1.2, but that's a little painful (and slow) on 386-based systems I'd like to have a working set of 1.2 install diskettes, but no luck so far. BTW, I've tried both the December and January versions of the install disk images. Same thing with either version. Any suggestions? I'm not sure that this has anything to do with either the base disks or the boot floppies, but there will be a fresh set either tonight or tomorrow that should make it to the mirrors by the first of the week. I would suggest however, that you find some really good disks, format them and rawrite a new set of base disks. If what you are getting is something cryptic like: A09F... B609... (it's been a long time since I saw this, so the above is only vaguely similar to any actuall message) This indicates failed sector reads caused by a bad disk. Luck, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 If you don't see what you want, just ask -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Making kernel using make install
Regarding compiling and installing new kernels, On 17 Jan 1997, Guy Maor wrote: Victor Torrico [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What exactly does make install do? See installkernel(8) and mkboot(8). Hey, this is not a very elaborate answer. I would like to know more about details of installing new (and older) kernels and have an overview of the process as well. IMHO this is something that is not quite exhausively covered in the documentation. And yes, I did read the lot in the source tree, which is great literature when your kernel won't boot because your XYZ scsi-tape won't bargain with the interface on your DEF souncard because it has the kind of obsolete 456PQ123 chip, so you'll have to hack the source a bit. I also read Running Linux and Raven and I think they're great for everyone who wants to get an overview of linux, especially newbies. But when compiling kernels is addressed, they only tell you to do make this, make that. There's hardly any documentation of what the makefile does, is supposed to do and can do for you. Of course, there's the kernel-HOWTO and it is very good where it makes configuring a new kernel very easy, explains a lot about what the kernel does, how it handles devices, what modules are, where to get the source, how to patch it, etc.. But when it comes down to the final part: installing the kernel, there's not much more than a reference to the lilo manual. I would really like to see some additions made about how the kernel is (or kernels are) embedded in the filesystem. IMHO installkernel(8) and mkboot(8) and are not good enough as the only reference to the install option of the kernel make. The process of installing a new kernal is much to fundamental to linux to be documented only in the huge lilo documentation or the kernel hacking guide. Joost -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cron scripts error
Hi, after reinstalling the system recently, I have been receving this message from cron everytime it runs: From: root (Cron Daemon) To: root Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] run-parts /etc/cron.daily X-Cron-Env: SHELL=/bin/sh X-Cron-Env: PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin X-Cron-Env: HOME=/root X-Cron-Env: LOGNAME=root Status: RO run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/find exited with return code 1 Looking at the offending script, it seems that it has problems while issuing su nobody If I do this by hand, it complains that it can't run /dev/null which is the default shell for nobody. What is going on? How can I repair this? Any hints or pointers would be welcome! Thanks in advance. Luis. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Inexpensive color printer experience
On or about 16-Gen-97 14:43:24, Michael Laing wrote: The 'stcolor' driver in Alladdin Ghostscript 4.01 works well for me on my Epson Stylus. No 'scratching' required... Where can I find Alladdin Ghostscript? Is it a commercial package or can I download it from some place? Thanks Bye Giacomo Mulas Amiga makes it possible, Mac makes it expensive, Win95 just makes Bill Gates rich... -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6.3i mQCNAzE6TXQAAAEEAJ9orKstyXnCaObmSOsiZJxlas/qZpE11T2OGJnveozcIqdI 9/XtuYIGxEyV3ux65+U1j0x9l+dyhgj1Yg7Cro4UuKeB3ggnbrcyrUe5zUex2fgW Gp0FPvPetji4YDxHm0YxldanoJmXHQNZdYCgGesB4xu8kApd/m0PgxAg+26NAAUR tCJHaWFjb21vIE11bGFzIDxqYWNvbW9AbWJveC52b2wuaXQ+iQCVAwUQMTpNdG0P gxAg+26NAQF0iwP+OCnZgD3+eAl95ELg+o9p+c3LhFqidk/Quvj6MTiKbAqFjvs1 CXVFwXxP+pLTpDfW6LXeFWD34dlGHWckTTBD3ilC2PuTf6DXE10b0PDcW12us5yZ FWLPMg2BXV0E2VSBD9dPqqfpH8NLqKcMVQ3in8cCKcq9H6p7RPQAvPT1j6w= =5pim -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Modules (was Re: Making kernel using make install)
On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, Martin Konold wrote: Every kernel release gets its own direcory in /etc/modules/ So no need to backup the modules. The new directory gets created with make modules_install Am I right in thinking that a module is a module is a module? In other words, is the sound.o module always the same even though different base addresses/IRQs etc. were configured? David. -- David Wright, Open University, Earth Science Department, Milton Keynes MK7 6AA U.K. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +44 1908 653 739 fax: +44 1908 655 151 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problem with xmkf
Hi, I unable to use xmkmf with my debian box. However, on my slackware box xmkmf run fine If i try to use xmkmf with my debian box, i receive the error message: mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config Imakefile.c:3: Imake.tmpl: No such file or directory imake: Exit code 33. Stop. Anyone can help me? Thanks, Dany Dionne Install xlib6-dev_3.2-1.deb which includes /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config/Image.tmpl Zenon -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian1.2 on InfoMagic doesn't install properly
Sad new. It seems like Debian1.2 on the Dec 1996 InfoMagic CD ROM is kind of broken: the X stuffs just would not install properly !!! Not true !! See ftp.fortuna.org:/pub/linux/Debian for Debian1.2 and then X3.2 installation directly from InfoMagic CD#3 without (essential) problems. Zenon -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Making kernel using make install
On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, Victor Torrico wrote: When making a kernel 2.0.27 I do the following: make mrproper make config make dep make clean make zImage make modules make modules_install make install The make install is not documented in the /usr/src/linux directory as far as I know but when it is used it seems to put everything from the new kernel where it belongs properly in the /boot directory and lets you update lilo as well. I just tried doing this for the hell of it and it seems to work very well. Ah-hah! Finally, what seems to be a simple sequence of commands for building a new kernel. But what must I do to ensure that my old kernel will continue to work (with its modules), especially if lilo wants to complain that the new kernel is too large? I assume that certain files and directories ought to be backed up or renamed or something, but some pointers to safe kernel testing would be very helpful! What I do when I want to upgrade my kernel (which I will be doing later today... 2.0.28 is out) is something like this (assuming that linux-2.0.28.tar.gz is already in /var/tmp, but it could be anywhere, really): tar xzvf linux-2.0.28.tar.gz cd linux cp /usr/src/linux/.config . make-kpkg -revision custom.1.0 kernel_image kernel_source cd .. # rm -rf linux linux-2.0.28.tar.gz dpkg --install kernel-image-2.0.28_custom.1.0_i386.deb dpkg --install kernel-source-2.0.28_custom.1.0_i386.deb dpkg --remove kernel-source-2.0.27_custom.1.0_i386.deb dpkg --remove kernel-image-2.0.26_custom.1.0_i386.deb and that's it. My /etc/lilo.conf has entries for /vmlinux and /vmlinux.old, which are symbolic links that the post-install script for the kernel-image package maintain properly (and reruns lilo as well). I keep one set of installed kernel sources and two installed kernel images. All you need for this is to install the kernel-package package, and it should work. Read the docs in /usr/doc/kernel-package for more information. --Pete ___ Peter J. Templin, Jr. Client Services Analyst Computer Communication Services tel: (717) 524-1590 Bucknell University [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just as the strength of the Internet is chaos, so the strength of our liberty depends upon the chaos and cacaphony of the unfettered speech the First Amendment protects. -- A.L.A. v. U.S. Dept. of Justice -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bootup messages... how to capture?
Zenon Fortuna wrote: Depending on the system setup, the most of the boot-up messages are also collected into /var/log/messages. At least my Debian system works like that. this is unlikely to contain the kernel start up messages (as opposed to stuff that started after syslogd, and hence init). It's possible for init to be instructed to cat /proc/kmesg to /var/log/messages I suppose, but is it common? Dave. That's correct: i.e. only the messages after syslogd get captured into /var/log/messages. The /proc/kmsg messages are not appended. One can append the dmesg messages into (any) logfile, for example adding dmesg $YOUR_FILE in /etc/rc2.d/S10sysklogd file. But this is not common. Zenon -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian 1.2.3
On Jan 16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daniel S. Barclay) wrote: Given that those files are moved (change in current release relative to previous release), what happens if I re-install these packages? Will the old file be removed, or will I end up with two files? (I don't know how much the packaging system takes care of obsolete or old files.) dpkg keeps a list of all the files owned by a package. When you upgrade, any file in the old list that is not in the new package is removed. Steve Greenland -- The Mole - I think, therefore I scream Don't embarrass us. Have I ever? [Buckaroo Banzai and Perfect Tommy in BUCKAROO BANZAI] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cron.daily et al.
How about a (cron) job, that executed every time the
machine gets booted and that checks when the cron jobs
were executed for the last time. If these for were not
executed for say two days (weeks, months) then they
get executed regardless the actual hour, day, week of month.
I second this.
I think this could be a large problem. There can exist cron jobs that
won't work unless they are run at a special time, or they could disrupt
things if they are ran at a random bootup-time.
For example, a cron job to connect to the network and mirror a ftp site --
say it takes 2 hours, and you run it in the wee hours of morning in what's
normally your voice phone line. You don't want something like this to get
run when you just boot up the computer during the day (maybe someone else
is using the phone at that time..)
Have you looked at anacron? Maybe it can do what you want:
anacron - a cron-like program that doesn't go by time
anacron (like `anac(h)ronistic') executes jobs in a certain interval.
Therefore it is useful to schedule daily maintaining jobs, such as
cleaning /tmp, getting email from the ISP, etc.
It's also a good replacement for cron on systems, that don't run
continously 24 hours a day but are powered on and shut down several times
a day.
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