Re: The ultimate fate of Debian
No, Mr. Rightley is right. At one time the cult guy called himself bo and his partner peep, amoung other things. I saw it on the CNN website! joe Joseph Palicke http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/palicke On Wed, 2 Apr 1997, Jason Costomiris wrote: Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 14:50:32 -0500 (EST) From: Jason Costomiris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Paul Rightley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: The ultimate fate of Debian Resent-Date: 2 Apr 1997 19:55:43 - Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org Resent-cc: recipient list not shown:;@cs.purdue.edu On Wed, 2 Apr 1997, Paul Rightley wrote: Now, the leader of this group was/is (depending upon your beliefs) a man who at one time called himself 'Bo'. Uh He called himself Do. Not Bo. Run, do not walk to the closet, put on your Nike's, get your shroud, and visit http://www.highersource.org, and laugh. Yes, .org, and not the .com site that belonged to those deranged losers. Jason Costomiris | Finger for PGP 2.6.2 Public Key [EMAIL PROTECTED] | There is a fine line between idiocy My employers like me, but not | and genius. We aim to erase that line enough to let me speak for them. |--Unknown http://www.jasons.org/~jcostom
Re: BO
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 02-Apr-97 Dale Scheetz wrote: On Wed, 2 Apr 1997, Leon Castellanos wrote: stuff deleted If you find this e-mail offensive please ignore it and /dev/null or if that doesn't satisfy you please email bomb me or something :) Well, something anyway ;-) With your long winded discussion there was, just barely, enough information to determine exactly what you found as a bug. When you are looking for help this is THE most important information you can provide. The rest of your discussion was slightly interesting, but provided no method of improvement that I could see. Since we can't go back in time and correct the error on the current disks, our only recourse is to try and fix them and get another disk set out. There should be a new disk set in the next day or two, that will, hopefully, have this (and several bugs you didn't see) fixed. This cycle of testing and repair is the norm for Debian and though it tries some folks patience at times I think that it works pretty well given the volunteer nature of the contributions. If you are truely interested in contributing to the testing effor, please contact me through private e-mail. We would be happy to have you join us, we can use all the help we can get. Waiting is, Dwarf -- I haven't run across this original msg yet, since I am re-configuring my system and am just now getting to read some email, but I would like to say something ab out all the ppl that post to this list and do nothing but bitch about the curren t state of Debian/Linux. I don't understand you fuc**ng ppl! This is an os that is completely volunteer oriented. These ppl have lives. Most of the authors have full time jobs doing other things. We should all BE GRATEFULL that they take time to put their talen t to NON-PROFIT use for the rest of the world to enjoy. If there is a problem w ith a piece of work you can be sure that they will find and fix it. They unders tand more about the inner-workings of software than most of us ever will, and I' m sure they have to do a little hokus-pokus sometimes just to get a concept to b egin to work. If you want the right to bitch and moan about software then go to the store and PAY MONEY FOR THE RIGHT by getting M$!!! Be part of the solution, not part of the problem, or stay out of the Linux commu nity!!! _-_-_-_-_-_- _-_-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 _-_-_-_-_-_- If you don't see what you want, just ask _-_-_-_-_-_-_- - -- Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] E-Mail: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 02-Apr-97 Time: 16:01:51 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM0LJPwi+Ph+i3TgpAQE1EgP8CRhbMMW4c6E6583w7i7EO1dyyMeF5xmS /ScojXE3PKYLg7e2mEHT5IceujF5obtbjUfP3AKwKSRcqlFvSDR0x1xuc/8GpR6Y 2GlcM3PYg5dH+alaKV1v5Fks0CW2Osm2IerhGKsD8azCRw+Ap9z3f/AUvfeiMGFL Lou3782bdbI= =Mw5w -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: ppp loopback
It means the remote system echoed serial characters that PPP sent. This happens when the remote pppd hasn't started and you are sending packets at the login prompt or the shell prompt. Run through the chat script by hand and see if it really gets you logged in. Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3
Re: BO
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: [ snip ] Note also, that you are overlooking the possibility of upgrading a 1.2 system to bo. This is also a method that needs testing, and it doesn't depend on the installation disk directory. Speaking of which, I've upgraded quite a few packages couple of days ago and permissions on /dev/null got changed to crw--- -- I found the problem after a reboot -- lpd barfed -- and at that stage I didn't remember which packages got upgraded. -- Dimitri mailto:emaziuk at curtin.edu.au and don't forget to relace at with @ --- The views expressed above (hereafter, views) are mine and ownership remains with me. They are provided as is without expressed or implied warranty of any kind, including, but not limited to, the implied warranties of the suitability of the views for any purpose.
biff(1)
Has anyone successfully managed to get biff to work in debian? i know there's some interaction with comsat, but i never worked out where comsat got messages from (something to do with procmail? shudder). FYI, using latest unstable sendmail as MTA. Many thanks for any assistance. TL
RE: keeping multiple debian machines in sync
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 02-Apr-97 Steve Hsieh wrote: Having used debian for quite awhile now, I've really come to appreciate the package system and it works great on an individual machine basis. But as soon as you have to start keeping many debian systems in sync with each other, it starts to get time consuming using dselect. How have others tackled this problem of keeping 10 or more debian linux machines synced together? I assume you don't go about running dselect on each machine. One alternative I can think of is to use dpkg --get-selection to get the list of installed packages on a master machine, and then use dpkg --set-selection on the rest of the machines to set what is selected to be installed, and then to run dpkg over there. Still in that case, I still have to babysit each install process and answer the same questions in the post-install scripts as I did on the master machine. The other alternative seems to be using rdist or some similar program and rdisting /usr and selected parts of /var to the other machines. But in that case, I break the package lists on the other machines since the other machines will no longer know the correct list of packages already installed, and it is conceivable that someone might want to add one or two packages not in the standard distribution in which case it might fail. Ideas? Thanks. Off the top of my head, I'd say the best choice is to do a backup prior to major mod's. Once the first system is upgraded do a differential backup to a differe nt archive. Then do a restore/update to the other systems. The system will have to be offlimits during upgrade to keep others from modifyin g files other than the pkgs in question. Write a script to make backups of config files that are different between the or iginal system and the rest. Maybe de-select those config's for restore/update. For minor changes cp the dpkg database and debian sub-dir to the other systems b efore going to the install phase of the d/l process. You will ofcourse have to run dpkg --config --pending etc... on the other systems and answer the questions over again, but this is the minor update scenario. Just quick thoughts. Maybe Debian has an easier way. Maybe they will change ds elect to allow for network installation. I know there's a program out there that updates all systems in a network but I c an't think of the name right now. Hope this sparks an idea. Have a good one. - -- Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] E-Mail: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 02-Apr-97 Time: 15:38:45 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM0LD5Qi+Ph+i3TgpAQFXUgP/bquYrB6xX8en5Ub1Y2mxaY9OoG1Jz7Jq yK+Bb1EPHKhjz1U8SayUiQlEcb7GB/6k1m17eiO2eOKVrwKmHCNLZ6PMVgMxyOiZ iKQIe2sS5Nw2zlc/+5qHL2gurp9qVICIFhhrGazNs4Y5cL5Hyo3ZMn8rfRswaayV SrWGg7BgJ+0= =UjxQ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: BO
You are partly right. There could be bugs in the base installation problem. I had a similar problem trying to install the stable 2.0.27 kernal. I was getting command errors related to my hard drive. Linux could not get past the partition check. I thought it was the hardware that I was using, it turned out that the hard drive was trying to read the information before the install program had finished what it had to do with the hard drive. I hope this does not confuse you. Don't assume that it is the debian distribution's fault. Paul On Wed, 2 Apr 1997, Leon Castellanos wrote: Ok I downloaded BO to see if I could contribute to the debian effort by testing the packages and reporting bugs, but to my surprise it is so BETA that I cannot even install it. I understand that debian is a volunteer effort and that what ppl do for debian is out of their own free will. Concerning the UNSTABLE release it is understood that there ARE bugs in the packages, but that does not mean that they should NOT, at least work! does it? I would imagine that if you maintain a package, you should at least test it yourself, and more importantly if its related to the main installation process (as with current problems with dinstall). Alot of people may not know enough about coding, script, debugging to go into the installation script and check/fix the problems that it has, but they may be able to test packages and report bugs; of course they can't do that if they can't get through the BASE installation :/ I am NOT flaming or judging the intentions of the maintainer of dinstall, but I am a little disapointed because the problem that I have with the script is not something that is non-relevant to the overall installation, it is the part of the script that extracts the BASE system from floppy disks (needless to say this is a VITAL part); because of a simple variable it does not access the floppy drive device and cannot install. Now this is not a BIG or complicated problem to fix, but what it DOES mean, is that the maintainer DID NOT test the script prior to packaging or else he would have found the problem. It is not a one time occurance; it happens every single time. Once again my apologies if I offend anyone, specially the maintainer of dinstall. If you find this e-mail offensive please ignore it and /dev/null or if that doesn't satisfy you please email bomb me or something :) I love all ya ppl working on Debian! I think that it represents, to THE BEST degree, what LINUX is all about. PLEASE keep up the good work :-) Leon Castellanos [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The ultimate fate of Debian
This may have already been addressed, but back in the late 70's and into the 80's (I believe) the leader of the group did call himself 'Bo' and his sidekick, Ms. Nettles or whatever, was called 'Peep.' That was back when they spent some time here in the great state of New Mexico. Paul On 02-Apr-97 Jason Costomiris wrote: On Wed, 2 Apr 1997, Paul Rightley wrote: Now, the leader of this group was/is (depending upon your beliefs) a man who at one time called himself 'Bo'. Uh He called himself Do. Not Bo. Run, do not walk to the closet, put on your Nike's, get your shroud, and visit http://www.highersource.org, and laugh. Yes, .org, and not the .com site that belonged to those deranged losers. Jason Costomiris | Finger for PGP 2.6.2 Public Key [EMAIL PROTECTED] | There is a fine line between idiocy My employers like me, but not | and genius. We aim to erase that line enough to let me speak for them. | --Unknown http://www.jasons.org/~jcostom
Re: The ultimate fate of Debian
From: Paul Rightley [EMAIL PROTECTED] I solemly hope that, with the release of bo, the entire Debian developers team does not use the same cosmic 'hlt' instruction! Ugh. Let's not talk about those folks. I think Linux programmers have more sense. One of the features of the Internet is that where previously lunatics were generally isolated lunatics, with the Internet you can find 40 other lunatics just like you spread around the world. Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3
Re: biff(1)
The lady who wrote biff now works here at Pixar. Biff was named after her dog (long dead). Biff set an otherwise-unused execute permission bit on your terminal device (/dev/tty??) which told comsat that you wanted to be informed about new mail. Comsat did all of the work. I think that comsat just ran stat(2) on your mailbox every minute or so, and if the mailbox had been written since it had last been read it looked at the start of the new data, parsed the message, and told you about it. It did not need to interact with the mail delivery system at all except to read the spool file. Biff has long been obsolete. One of the various ways of starting a program in response to a mail message (procmail or mailagent can help with this) can be used to perform its function. Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3
Re: The ultimate fate of Debian
Well the next release is called hamm. The one before it was called buzz. Given the mystical significance of bo, this means one of the following: 1. Bruce Perens is the antichrist and Debian really means Devil. 2. The code names are all characters in Toy Story. 3. It's a government conspiracy. Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3
Re: The ultimate fate of Debian
In your email to me, Bruce Perens, you wrote: Well the next release is called hamm. The one before it was called buzz. Given the mystical significance of bo, this means one of the following: 1. Bruce Perens is the antichrist and Debian really means Devil. 2. The code names are all characters in Toy Story. 3. It's a government conspiracy. ^^ Great.. now *everyone* knows Tim PS: :) for the humor impared.. -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps You may be right, I may be crazy Billy Joel ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.**
Re: The ultimate fate of Debian
The next release is really called bo? Are we sure we want to do that? N offense to whoever this title may be honoring, but it just doesn't have the ring that Debian does. __ I like six eggs when starting on a journey. Fried - not poached. And mind you don't break 'em. I won't eat a broken egg. -- Thorin Oakenshield
Fwd: silly computer engineer story (fwd)
People here need to lighen up ;) Ok, take a look at this msg I was sent.. It's good for a laugh. Chad Chad D. Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dabcc-www.nmsu.edu/~chad/ -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 09:09:13 -0700 (MST) From: by way of Jon E. Juarez [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: silly computer engineer story This is obviously a computer-guy thing... Micro was a real-time operator and a dedicated multi-user. His broadband protocol made it easy for him to interface with numerous input/output devices, even if it meant time-sharing. One evening he arrived home just as the Sun was crashing, and had parked his Motorola 68000 in the main drive (he had missed the 5100 bus that morning), when he noticed an elegant piece of liveware admiring the daisy wheels in his garden. He though to himself, She looks user-friendly. I'll see if she'd like an update tonight. He browsed over to her casually, admiring the power of her twin 32 bit floating point processors, and inquired, How are you, Honeywell? Yes, I am well, she responded, batting her optical fibers engagingly and smoothing her console over her curvilinear functions. Micro settled for a straight line approximation. I'm stand-alone tonight, he said. How about computing a vector to my base address? I'll output a byte to eat and maybe we could get offset later on. Mini ran a priority process for 2.6 milliseconds, then transmitted 8K, I've been recently dumped myself and a new page is just what I need to refresh my disk packs. I'll park my machine cycle in your background and meet you inside. She walked off, leaving Micro admiring her solenoids and thinking, Wow, what a global variable! I wonder if she'd like my firmware? They sat down at the process table to a top of form feed of fiche and chips and a bottle of Baudot. Mini was in conversational mode and expanded on ambiguous arguments while Micro gave occasional acknowledgements although, in reality, he was analyzing the shortest and least critical path to her entry point. He finally settled on the old line, Would you like to see my benchmark subroutine? but Mini was again one clock tick ahead. Suddenly, she was up and stripping off her parity bits to reveal the full functionality of her operating system. Let's get BASIC, you RAM she said. Micro was loaded by this stage, but his hardware policing module had a processor of its own and was in danger of overflowing its output buffer, a hang-up that Micro had consulted his analyst about. Core, was all he could say, as she prepared to log him off. Micro soon recovered, however, when she went down on the DEC and opened her device files to reveal her data set ready. He accessed his fully packed root device and was about to start pushing into her CPU stack, when she attempted an escape sequence. No, no! she cried. You're not shielded! Reset, baby, he replied. I've been debugged. But I haven't got my current loop enabled, and I can't support child processes, she protested. Don't run away, he said. I'll generate an interrupt. No! she squealed. That's too error prone and I can't abort because of my design philosophy. But Micro was locked in by this stage and could not be turned off. Mini stopped his thrashing by introducing a voltage spike into his main supply, whereupon he fell over with a head crash and went to sleep. Computers! she thought as she compiled herself. All they ever think of is hex! Donald Silver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don Silver Enterprises 415-508-8940 http://www.dseweb.com It's too bad stupidity isn't painful
Re: The ultimate fate of Debian
On Wed, 2 Apr 1997, Bruce Perens wrote: Well the next release is called hamm. The one before it was called buzz. Given the mystical significance of bo, this means one of the following: 1. Bruce Perens is the antichrist and Debian really means Devil. 2. The code names are all characters in Toy Story. 3. It's a government conspiracy. Bruce If you add Bruce's PGP key to the ASCII sum for Debian and subtract the name of the poster who started this thread, you get the pope's telephone number. Paul Wade - Greenbush Technologies Corporation http://www.greenbush.com/cds.html Linux CD's sent worldwide
Re: The ultimate fate of Debian
On Wed, 2 Apr 1997, Bruce Perens wrote: Well the next release is called hamm. The one before it was called buzz. Given the mystical significance of bo, this means one of the following: 1. Bruce Perens is the antichrist and Debian really means Devil. i knew the dark forces were behind with this project... m* -- The Shining One --
Re: RPM
On Wed, 2 Apr 1997, Bruce Perens wrote: Unfortunately, I feel that Debian must bear the cost of certification of maintainers and original authors. Unless I can tell someone I know where a program came from, no other security procedures can be trusted to have any effectiveness whatsoever. Yes, they are. Testing, and revising developers diffs. If you could check package MD5 (someday we'll be able to do this =) ), you'll only need to see the diff.gz to check for security problems (Asuming we can trust the mainstream developer). The proble left is: The .deb uploaded can be generated by a source not included in the source package. It would be great if gcc placed some kind of signature in binaries... but it doesn't... So.. what can we do? I say: let's make all developers upload only the source versions of their packages! An automated script can compile all the packages in some trusted environment. -- Nicolás Lichtmaier.- | Try visiting #debian in Undernet (us.undernet.org) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The channel of the debian developers =)
Re: The ultimate fate of Debian
Hello...McFly! The current version is rex the next is bo. Debian-buzz, Debian-rex, Debian-bo, Debian-thor, Debian-whatever. Winbleeps 95-chicago etc... On 02-Apr-97 Britton wrote: The next release is really called bo? Are we sure we want to do that? N offense to whoever this title may be honoring, but it just doesn't have the ring that Debian does. __ I like six eggs when starting on a journey. Fried - not poached. And mind you don't break 'em. I won't eat a broken egg. -- Thorin Oakenshield -- Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] E-Mail: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 02-Apr-97 Time: 17:36:29 --
Re: biff(1)
Bruce, Thanks for the information. I don't suppose you'd know of anything which would perform biff's function without my reinventing a wheel? I know it's just a question of pressing 'enter' in my open bash terminal to see if i have new mail, but it'd be nice to be able to leave a terminal open and have async notification of new mail. Many thanks for your help, and making Debian the platform of choice (IMHO). Thomas --(fortune.sig)-- Welcome to the Zoo!
Re: The ultimate fate of Debian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hello, McFly... Debian-rex (current), Debian-bo (next), Debian-whatever... On 02-Apr-97 Britton wrote: The next release is really called bo? Are we sure we want to do that? N offense to whoever this title may be honoring, but it just doesn't have the ring that Debian does. __ I like six eggs when starting on a journey. Fried - not poached. And mind you don't break 'em. I won't eat a broken egg. -- Thorin Oakenshield - -- Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] E-Mail: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 02-Apr-97 Time: 17:39:01 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM0LgFAi+Ph+i3TgpAQFsPgP/Ub3azMIrjnaSF2a3tIhOB35h3pNmFUUI qUZ+SdGFnWJdrCcOGPquF2aDIznxZsRl1+UeItTLH7aJpVJS9PQxtDAGdJMZL+10 7ZprH1CcymyzYRuJQ1lzlUPxN/Kw6Zsu3fcRavVbK4Z4UPss1YS13+CGUxpJZ+MS aRy+/zBfcZQ= =SA6M -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: biff(1)
Hi, Has anyone successfully managed to get biff to work in debian? i know there's some interaction with comsat, but i never worked out where comsat got messages from (something to do with procmail? shudder). FYI, using latest unstable sendmail as MTA. I love biff. I do not like to press Enter in bash to get a new mail notification. I like biff because it is asynchronous. I also have sendmail as my MTA. By default, sendmail uses deliver as its local delivery program. deliver does not notify comsat so biff does not work if you use deliver. You can use procmail (that's what I am using) and it'll work pretty well. You have to make a minor change to the sendmail.cf file, or better to the sendmail.mc file. Here is mine: -- # # This file is used to configure sendmail for use with Debian systems. # divert(0) VERSIONID(`@(#)sendmail.mc 8.7 (Linux) 3/5/96') OSTYPE(debian)dnl FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)dnl FEATURE(always_add_domain)dnl FEATURE(use_cw_file)dnl FEATURE(use_ct_file)dnl FEATURE(nouucp)dnl FEATURE(nodns)dnl FEATURE(local_procmail, /usr/bin/procmail) define(`LOCAL_MAILER_ARGS', `procmail -Y -d $u') MAILER(local)dnl MAILER(smtp)dnl Cwzeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com MASQUERADE_AS(ven.ra.rockwell.com)dnl ## Custom configurations below (will be preserved) define(`confMAX_MESSAGE_SIZE', `100') define(`confTRY_NULL_MX_LIST', `True') define(`confCOPY_ERRORS_TO', `postmaster') define(`SMART_HOST', smtp:mailrelay.mke.ab.com) LOCAL_NET_CONFIG R$* @ $* .$m. $*$#smtp $@ $2.$m. $: $1 @ $2.$m. $3 -- Don't pay attention to the custom configuration stuff. It's just for my site. The key lines are: FEATURE(local_procmail, /usr/bin/procmail) define(`LOCAL_MAILER_ARGS', `procmail -Y -d $u') If I remember right, the first line is needed because the default definition has procmail in /usr/local/bin/ and Debian puts it in /usr/bin/. After changing your /etc/mail/sendmail.mc file run sendmailconfig and tell it to use the existing sendmail.mc file, do not generate a new one. After this, you should be able to use biff as in other *unixes. Let me know if you have problems. Good luck. E.- --- Eloy A. Paris Information Technology Department Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: +58-2-9432311 Fax: +58-2-9430323
Re: Dump hangs on my system
My nightly backup script seems to be hanging in the middle of its first dump: [...] DUMP: estimated 14710 tape blocks on 0.01 tape(s). [...] Pete dump is asking for another tape! You will have to inform, in the command line, the size of your tape. See the man pages. Probably dump was first developed such a long time ago, that the default tape size is very tiny! Marcia % MARCIA TAKAGUI E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] % Univ Sao Paulo - Fisica - DFGE PHONE: (55) (11) 818-6811 % PO Box 66318, Sao Paulo, SPFAX: (55) (11) 813-4334 % 05315-970 BRAZIL == new zip code since Oct 22 96
pap and diald
Hi folks, I was wondering if anyone who uses diald could help me with pap authentication. I've just changed ISP's and of course they are an Nt shop who are changing over to solaris... I was able to figure out my connection problems with minicom at my old ISP , but here, it gets to the point of telling me the speed and stuff about the connection, and dies shortly after. No login prompt, no cursor, nada... How do I pass the info to the server? or get it to tell me what it wants? pap is something I haven't had to worry about till now Rich M
xntp weirdness: system clock gets set 20 seconds slow
[For anti-spam purposes, my email address does not appear in canonical form in this message, but if you're not trying to sell me anything, I welcome replies. My username is gobbel, the name of myhost is cogsci.ucsd.edu. -RG] I've been trying to get xntp to work correctly on my system, so far with no success. No matter how I set up things beforehand (e.g., setting both date and clock from Java clock on the NIST Web page), xntp, after talking to its servers (any set of servers, stratum 1 or 2), sets the clock to be approximately 20 seconds behind the correct time. Given that NTP is supposed to allow the system clock to stay within a few milliseconds of the time standard, this is bizarre. Has anyone else out there had this problem, does anyone have any clues about what's going on here, and how to fix it? Is there a FAQ or HOWTO about this? -Randy
Re: finger from remote site will not list .plan
At 03:44 PM 1/04/97 -0500, Colin Telmer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- At the moment remote users who finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] are told that I have no plan. However if I finger telmerco while logged onto terrapin, I get to see my .plan (pgp key). I recall fiddling with cfingerd and noticing that you could restrict remote users but cannot find any documentation on allowing remote users with netstd's fingerd. Any ideas? The finger daemon runs as user nobody and as such it must be publically accessable. Make your home directory chmod'd 711 and your .plan 644 - should work fine - ie: drwx--x--x 23 karl staff2048 Mar 31 19:31 /home/karl -rw-r--r-- 1 karl staff 364 Aug 4 1996 /home/karl/.plan Regards -- Karl Ferguson Tower Networking Pty Ltd Tel: +61-9-456- [EMAIL PROTECTED] t/a STAR Online Services Fax: +61-9-455-2776 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xdm Problem
Well, I'm not sure if I understand what you are trying to do, but with a RH4.0 set-up all I did was set the init level to 5 to start up xdm. -- Brian Denheyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RPM
Currently, we try to mitigate the potential for damage from malicious packages by verifying the identity of our maintainers. We don't accept anonymous software. It's a lot of work to check their identity, we are planning to start using a commercial certification authority to help us with this. Note that Red Hat, Caldera, etc. are just as liable to pick up and compile a package whose author built in a booby-trap. We are working on this problem by establishing a standard for authors to use when signing their software, and we will work to get authors into the PGP web of trust through our certification authority or other means (like having a local Debian developer check them out) so that we can trace software all the way back to the original author. Bruce -- BAN KEY ESCROW. Privacy is your right! Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3
php-fi modules?
Has anyone successfully installed the php apache modules and standalone packages from unstable? Im out like bell bottom trousers, michl electric RAIN http://www.electric-rain.net/ The second rate soldier lives a life of medoicrety and dies with regret. The first rate soldier lives a life of honor and dies with honor.
Dpkg gone haywire?
Hello I am new to this list and I am joining to hopefully recive help with a realy strange error that I am getting from dpkg. so without further wait here are the error messages This first error is from trying to configure all package's that where pending. But as a side note gimp-smotif gave me the same error upon install. Setting up gimp-smotif (0.54.1-5) ... install-info: failed to lock dir for editing! No such file or directory dpkg: error processing gimp-smotif (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of ax25-util: ax25-util depends on source; however: Package source is not installed. dpkg: error processing ax25-util (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: error processing bash (--configure): Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting configuration. Errors were encountered while processing: gimp-smotif ax25-util bash This error was reported when I tried to remove a package. Removing doc-debian ... install-info: failed to lock dir for editing! No such file or directory dpkg: error processing doc-debian (--remove): subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 2 install-info: failed to lock dir for editing! No such file or directory Errors were encountered while processing: doc-debian I am at wits end on this. I have tried everything I know to do includeing trying to reinstall dpkg but to no awail... my last and final thougt is that this is being caused by the /usr/info/ directory being locked for some reason and there for unaccessable by dpkg/install-info. Is there any way to unlock the directory or even to see if it realy is locked ... I have exausted every Idea that I know of and still I get this error. At this point I am tempted just to make a new filesystem and start over. Any thoughts and or sugestions would be greatly appreciated. -Kevin Poorman - End forwarded message --
Re: KDE/KDM
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are there any plans to package KDE (www.kde.org) or any of it's components? KDE will be packaged, and you will be able to use it, but Debian is most interested in 100% free desktop environments, so we have to be a bit careful with KDE. KDE itself is free, but the Qt toolkit upon which KDE is free _only_when_used_with_X_. I think that Toll Tech, the creators of Qt, made it free on X so that they could have lots of free software to sell with their non-free versions under Windows, NT, etc. We would like to have the freedom to use major Debian components with other window systems than X (Berlin is one, but there are others on the horizon as well), and even other operating system than Linux (there's the Hurd, for example), which rules out the possibility that we would make the core of Debian _depend_ on KDE. You'll still be able to get KDE from the non-free directory and run it. Other interesting desktop projects include GnuStep (http://www.gnustep.org), and FSF's own desktop project Teak, which doesn't seem to be going yet (http://www.fsf.org/software/teak). Then there's an entire replacement for X in Berlin (http://veda.synet.net/numan/berlin/), but of course they only have one component of that in Alpha-test so far. Thanks Bruce -- BAN KEY ESCROW. Privacy is your right! Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3
Re: shadow question
It sounds like there is a problem with your .xsession script (if you have one), or the file /etc/X11/window-managers. If you have a .xsession script, everything should be started in the background, except for the last thing (usually the window manager, could be an xterm, though). If not, make sure that at least one of the window managers listed in /etc/X11/window-managers exists. -Larry -- Larry Daffner| Linux: Unleash the workstation in your PC! [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://web2.airmail.net/vizzie/ Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
Hayes ESP serial port
Are there any drivers to use the Hayes ESP serial card in it full fifo (1k) mode. I would also like to use speed greater then 115200. Any help where to look would be of great help.
xntp mystery solved: POSIX timezone brain damage
[For anti-spam purposes, my email address does not appear in canonical form in this message, but if you're not trying to sell me anything, I welcome replies. My username is gobbel, the name of myhost is cogsci.ucsd.edu. -RG] After digging around a bit more, I discovered that the 20-second offset is due to overzealous compliance with a broken POSIX requirement in version 7.55 of the timezone package. Apparently the POSIX committee, in a moment of idiocy, decreed that POSIX time leave off the leap seconds that have been added to UTC periodically since 1972. There have been 20 of them, leading to the 20-second discrepancy. It appears that this breakage will be remedied in the next release of timezone. The interim cure is to revert to version 7.48-3, in the stable distribution. -Randy
Re: Questions for some nice zsh examples
On Wed, 2 Apr 1997 00:27:54 +0200, Alexander Koch [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Could someone please mail me some [zsh] examples to start with? See /usr/doc/examples/zsh. -- Roderick Schertler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP compile error...Linux
To All: This is also being sent to the Debian mailing list in case someone there can hel p with this. I D/L'd PGP 2.6 a few nights ago and got an error while trying to 'make linux'. Beginning... error starts here... gcc -o pgp pgp.o crypto.o keymgmt.o fileio.o mdfile.o more.o armor.o mpilib.o mp iio.o genprime.o rsagen.o random.o idea.o passwd.o md5.o system.o language.o get opt.o keyadd.o config.o keymaint.o charset.o randpool.o noise.o zbits.o zdeflate o zfile_io.o zglobals.o zinflate.o zip.o zipup.o ztrees.o zunzip.o rsaglue2.o _80386.o _zmatch.o ../rsaref/install/unix/rsaref.a crypto.o: In function `read_mpi': /root/.pgp/pgp262/src/crypto.c:627: undefined reference to `P_SETP' crypto.o: In function `signfile': /root/.pgp/pgp262/src/crypto.c:864: undefined reference to `P_SETP' crypto.o: In function `compromise': /root/.pgp/pgp262/src/crypto.c:1044: undefined reference to `P_SETP' /root/.pgp/pgp262/src/crypto.c:1052: undefined reference to `P_SETP' crypto.o: In function `signkey': /root/.pgp/pgp262/src/crypto.c:1202: undefined reference to `P_SETP' crypto.o:/root/.pgp/pgp262/src/crypto.c:1351: more undefined references to `P_SE TP' follow more of the same... ending... _zmatch.o(.text+0xb): undefined reference to `_max_chain_length' _zmatch.o(.text+0x11): undefined reference to `_strstart' _zmatch.o(.text+0x23): undefined reference to `_window' _zmatch.o(.text+0x29): undefined reference to `_prev_length' _zmatch.o(.text+0x38): undefined reference to `_good_match' _zmatch.o(.text+0x5a): undefined reference to `_prev' _zmatch.o(.text+0x66): undefined reference to `_window' _zmatch.o(.text+0x6f): undefined reference to `_window' _zmatch.o(.text+0x77): undefined reference to `_window' _zmatch.o(.text+0x94): undefined reference to `_window' _zmatch.o(.text+0xa4): undefined reference to `_match_start' make[1]: *** [pgp] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/.pgp/pgp262/src' make: *** [linux] Error 2 Well...more than one error. Anyway. This is what happened. I made no mod's to the files. I'm sure it's some linux source I'm missing or something. Can anyone tell me what will fix this? Thanks. -- Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] E-Mail: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 02-Apr-97 Time: 00:27:44 --
Re: PGP compile error...Linux
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 2 Apr 1997, Rick wrote: Well...more than one error. Anyway. This is what happened. I made no mod's to the files. I'm sure it's some linux source I'm missing or something. Can anyone tell me what will fix this? Try doing a make sysv That worked for me (make linux did not work for me either). Paul -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3 Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM0Hu20WiM58YroBNAQFxrQf/Sd2Zihl2PGRyVuX+BfGkmkVpY9eM5qcX 9rc/gqOWHQ+ZzVbqh0365qhsl6fwWnfcDBCbdH9rC8MsBfRVhkGgYpMGE5XbPyVD 7TPrugRXANQPajroDGDu+WAjT76G0Pl9lpy67XWdsXEIsSiByw9KGyhm6SrEb2m7 8j6oOeYKW/D8qnbMhK86qgdFkMv94LzzCCE8HvPgC/qIrRMmhyd2bYDy00WuQBOI YSxMvJkaq1gvVimt4ClqGcZgjH2MH96FdUpZXdd9e7HGBECTE5mqvaU6q+xE6FBS 1QJgpnAmPa9ugh/03rASqe1rgIIGqEcXBSW7s5/Tz3MIjQip5tpmdQ== =VBwU -END PGP SIGNATURE-
xconsole
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I guess I don't quite understand the purpose of the xconsole program. I have put run-xconsole in /etc/X11/config and xdm starts xconsole in the lower right corner. It gets carried over when someone logs in, but nothing ever appears in it. What is supposed to end up there? On other workstations I have worked on, there is lots of stuff that shows up in xconsole, namely errors, kernel messages that would normally go to the regular console, etc. This doesn't seem to be happening for me. Am I doing something wrong? This is the line in Xsetup_0: if grep -q ^run-xconsole /etc/X11/config then xconsole -geometry 480x130-0-0 -daemon -notify -verbose -fn fixed \ -exitOnFail -file /dev/xconsole fi Help please! Thanks, Erv - -- PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Fingerprint: A5 AB 25 7D 7A FD 4D FE BE 21 47 60 0C DC 67 9E ==-- _ / / \ ---==---(_)__ __ __/ / /\ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / / /_/\ \ \- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ /__\ \ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] \_\/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM0HvYLkbWT/F2aV1AQFd0gP9G4PB95eXqurw16B2pryOWYb2oSdf6MMF cznJH3+18RpKJGRfAoILctqLwFSD56Ak03Tudh+D9rqJg8AXkUb3a8UN7lcoqB+M LbtluLQbj82rvX4WgikaFyUhxfur9wSU8vQS7+49OOC+jSwVBik2D5pQtkqlCA1P qAY6oLOk+ys= =6Ku3 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: xconsole
On 1 Apr, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re: I guess I don't quite understand the purpose of the xconsole program. Re: I have put run-xconsole in /etc/X11/config and xdm starts xconsole in Re: the lower right corner. It gets carried over when someone logs in, Re: but nothing ever appears in it. What is supposed to end up there? On Re: other workstations I have worked on, there is lots of stuff that shows Re: up in xconsole, namely errors, kernel messages that would normally go Re: to the regular console, etc. This doesn't seem to be happening for Re: me. Am I doing something wrong? [snip] Check out /etc/syslog.conf - it decides what messages that go where. I'm not on my Linux system now so I haven't got the exact incantation, but it's not that complex to figure out. You want to send stuff to /dev/xconsole, so just add a line with the type of messages to print in the xconsole and /dev/xconsole at the end. One line from /etc/syslog.conf of the system I'm on right now (Solaris 2.5.1), just to get the idea: *.err;kern.notice;auth.notice;user.none /dev/console /Michael -- |Linux: Turn on...Tune in...Fork out... | |Michael Tempsch, member of Ballistic Wizards, TIP#088, TDGP#20 | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Cell.Phone:+46 705487554 URL:http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d1temp |
RE: xconsole
On 02-Apr-97 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I guess I don't quite understand the purpose of the xconsole program. I have put run-xconsole in /etc/X11/config and xdm starts xconsole in the lower right corner. It gets carried over when someone logs in, but nothing ever appears in it. What is supposed to end up there? On other workstations I have worked on, there is lots of stuff that shows up in xconsole, namely errors, kernel messages that would normally go to the regular console, etc. This doesn't seem to be happening for me. Am I doing something wrong? This is the line in Xsetup_0: if grep -q ^run-xconsole /etc/X11/config then xconsole -geometry 480x130-0-0 -daemon -notify -verbose -fn fixed \ -exitOnFail -file /dev/xconsole fi Help please! Thanks, Erv - -- PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Fingerprint: A5 AB 25 7D 7A FD 4D FE BE 21 47 60 0C DC 67 9E ==-- _ / / \ ---==---(_)__ __ __/ / /\ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / / /_/\ \ \- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ /__\ \ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] \_\/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM0HvYLkbWT/F2aV1AQFd0gP9G4PB95eXqurw16B2pryOWYb2oSdf6MMF cznJH3+18RpKJGRfAoILctqLwFSD56Ak03Tudh+D9rqJg8AXkUb3a8UN7lcoqB+M LbtluLQbj82rvX4WgikaFyUhxfur9wSU8vQS7+49OOC+jSwVBik2D5pQtkqlCA1P qAY6oLOk+ys= =6Ku3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Make sure you have something like the following in your /etc/syslog.conf and rem ember that it only logs errors or whatever it's set to log in syslog.conf. Try opening a vt (alt-fn#) and logging in as root. That should pop up in xconsole. /etc/syslog.conf daemon.*;mail.*;news.crit;news.err;news.notice;*.=debug;*.=info;*.=notice;*.=war n;cron.none |/dev/xconsole -- Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] E-Mail: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 02-Apr-97 Time: 01:22:19 --
Re: PGP compile error...Linux
On 02-Apr-97 Paul Nelson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 2 Apr 1997, Rick wrote: Well...more than one error. Anyway. This is what happened. I made no mod's to the files. I'm sure it's some linux source I'm missing or something Can anyone tell me what will fix this? Try doing a make sysv That worked for me (make linux did not work for me either). Paul I'll be damned... It compiled using sysv. I thought sysv was voo-doo on linux or I'd have tried i t. Thanks alot for the tip, Paul. Now to see it work right... -- Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] E-Mail: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 02-Apr-97 Time: 01:29:19 --
Re: Converting ascii to ebcdic, and vice versa
On Tue, 1 Apr 1997, Walter L. Preuninger II wrote: I am looking for a library function to convert ascii to ebcdic, and/or ebcdic to ascii. For example, '0' = 0x30 in ascii, 0xf0 in ebcdic. Try recode. Look at the recode-info-pages. Johann Johann Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windsorlaan 19 Pietermaritzburg 3201 Suid Afrika (South Africa) Tel. Nr. 0331-46-1310
Re: dbview
On Tue, 1 Apr 1997, Lacharme Jean-Paul wrote: has anybody used dbview ? There is no manual entry, no info entry and the dpkg --status output give no real information to use the command. I tried it out without any real success. It truncates every field of .dbf files I have tried to view. I do not use it anymore. I just typed dbview foo.dbf | less to view the files. Johann. Johann Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windsorlaan 19 Pietermaritzburg 3201 Suid Afrika (South Africa) Tel. Nr. 0331-46-1310
help with named
I know I've seen this somewhere, but now I can't find it. Here's the problem: named is outputting what looks like logfile info to the console on one of my Linux boxen. And I can't remember how to get rid of the stuff. Anybody know how to fix it off hand? If it's any help, it started doing this after an unsuccessful attempt to get a news server running. Tim - LINUX 2.0.8 i486 Because reboots are for upgrades!! - Please direct Email to: tjobrien(at)traveller.com
Unknown host
Hi, i installed smail from the unstable tree. I havn't any idea how to configre smail. When I installed Slackware half a year ago I configured nothing and it worked. Now I answered the some questions while installing smail, but any mail to any host (except on my own machine) is returned to sender. Would anyone be so kind to give me a hint, which document to read or which file is responsible for the error which causes the following reply on a Testmail: Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 09:41:08 +0200 (CEST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: e2od5 Subject: mail failed, returning to sender Reference: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 09:41:08 +0200 (CEST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: e2od5 Subject: mail failed, returning to sender Reference: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Message log follows: -| no valid recipients were found for this message |- Failed addresses follow: -| [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... unknown host |- Message text follows: | Received: by bridge.physik.uni-halle.de id m0wCKff-1JC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 09:41:07 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 09:41:07 +0200 (CEST) From: e2od5 (Andreas Tille) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: April Thanks for advise Andreas
Unknown host (more)
Hi once more, I tested the other direction to send mail from an other host to my machine and this was the result: -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 10:17:05 +0200 (CEST) From: MAILER-DAEMON [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: mail failed, returning to sender |- Message log follows: -| no valid recipients were found for this message |- Failed addresses follow: -| [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... unknown host |- Message text follows: | Received: from mlucom.urz.uni-halle.de ([141.48.3.3]) by bridge.physik.uni-halle.de with esmtp id m0wCLES-1JC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 10:17:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost by mlucom.urz.uni-halle.de with SMTP (1.37.109.23/15.6) id AA294219062; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 10:17:43 +0200 Posted-Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 10:17:43 +0200 Received-Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 10:17:43 +0200 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 10:17:42 +0200 (MESZ) From: Andreas Tille [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: April Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Any hints Andreas.
RE: Unknown host
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 02-Apr-97 Andreas Tille wrote: Hi, i installed smail from the unstable tree. I havn't any idea how to configre smail. When I installed Slackware half a year ago I configured nothing and it worked. Now I answered the some questions while installing smail, but any mail to any host (except on my own machine) is returned to sender. Would anyone be so kind to give me a hint, which document to read or which file is responsible for the error which causes the following reply on a Testmail: Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 09:41:08 +0200 (CEST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: e2od5 Subject: mail failed, returning to sender Reference: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 09:41:08 +0200 (CEST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: e2od5 Subject: mail failed, returning to sender Reference: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Message log follows: -| no valid recipients were found for this message |- Failed addresses follow: -| [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... unknown host |- Message text follows: | Received: by bridge.physik.uni-halle.de id m0wCKff-1JC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Wed, 2 Apr 1997 09:41:07 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 09:41:07 +0200 (CEST) From: e2od5 (Andreas Tille) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: April Thanks for advise Andreas Is that a typo or did you intentionally send it to an IP address instead of a do main? I telneted to the IP and verified the user. The problem is that smail is doing a name look up on an IP address and getting a bad response. Send it usin g the domain and it should go through. - -- Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] E-Mail: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 02-Apr-97 Time: 03:43:07 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM0IcGwi+Ph+i3TgpAQE11AP+M9s3DnqG7Y5zIGA2EXtZVZHOwxTi8inE gNfj8Efr2DyqbcDpXR9/5rWPXlP3TOUjQuMBS47fBfLCdmeI6L9jPXC87sSQHc3v 0WLB/axuyi7djH+CvNG/t/dIJV5Z2s6Dn8yao8+RoBbsSLpCQipG2dx5ORcL1D1H MWB/2xEuXj0= =7Ws5 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: help with named
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim O'Brien) writes: I know I've seen this somewhere, but now I can't find it. Here's the problem: named is outputting what looks like logfile info to the console on one of my Linux boxen. And I can't remember how to get rid of the stuff. Anybody know how to fix it off hand? If it's any help, it started doing this after an unsuccessful attempt to get a news server running. I noticed this after removing INN from one box. It looked like the purge took some log files with it (nothing wrong with that), and syslogd didn't like having entries for non-existent files. Try removing or commenting out the lines from /etc/syslog.conf referring to the news log files. -- Carey Evans * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Double, double, toil and trouble, / Fire burn and cauldron bubble.
Re: PGP compile error...Linux
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 2 Apr 1997, Rick wrote: I D/L'd PGP 2.6 a few nights ago [ ... ] If I remember well, PGP 2.6 was not ELF-ready yet. Please, use PGP 2.6.3. Follow the README.PGP symlink on the Debian archives. Thanks. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 iQCVAgUBM0Iq5yqK7IlOjMLFAQGR9wQAjpiFRxwg2DSjYVz0F3Y9PKeG5Z/9clyd 6wkVWRXsB3joSCO9fupuV3TgQoBa1sR3c5z7429utC8FpTzxLbo3LR7Pv/GgVtbO 7Ilx0GlxYCayBlazGARtF0xg5VTMTPic5Mv1iMZMATM4LEWKfkIbGG0dsV5M/lXV wFqEW09DBo4= =AdtG -END PGP SIGNATURE- Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ncpfs module
Hi, I have just installed kernel 2.0.29 from the package kernel-image. All went apparently fine but the problem is that I cannot find the module ncpfs neede to mount netware volumes. As my office is based on netware it is very important for me to have this facility inorder to print and transfer files. I am currntly trying to recompile the kernel but since my previous efforts have not een very succesful I would be grateful if somebody could tell where I could get the module ncpfs.o ( I need the compiled version since I am not very comfortable compiling it my self). Thanks for any help. George --- George Kapetanios Churchill College Cambridge, CB3 0DS U.K.E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: Problems working with bash.
On Tue, Apr 01, 1997 at 10:24:30PM +0200, J.P.D. Kooij wrote: On Mon, 31 Mar 1997, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: Gertjan == Gertjan Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gertjan Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Open up your info reader; Gertjan Don't get me started on info! Why not? Elucidate. I think info sucks. It is obsoleted by html. Clear enough? Same story here. The gnu info browser is too obscure, if you're not an emacs user; you shouldn't need to do a tutorial to use something as simple as a hypertext browser; lynx is far more obvious to use, and has (TTBOMK) the same functionality .. (although obviously for html vs info nodes.) Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust[EMAIL PROTECTED] Student, computer science computer systems engineering.3rd year, RMIT. http://yallara.cs.rmit.edu.au/~moffatt (PGP key here) CPOM: [ ] 40%
DosEmu corrupting console?
Hey I'm using a V7 Spea videocard, with a S3 Trio32 chipset. When I want to run dosemu with 'graphics' in de optionline of the videodefinition, my consolescreen gets corrupted when returning to Linux. But it goes only wrong when using 132 chars/line. When I'm using 80x50 for example, everything goes perfectly. Anybody any hints? thanks! // Remco van de Meent // email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // www: http://cam053212.student.utwente.nl //Never make any mistaeks.
Re: Dpkg gone haywire?
Setting up gimp-smotif (0.54.1-5) ...
install-info: failed to lock dir for editing! No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing gimp-smotif (--configure):
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of ax25-util:
I am at wits end on this. I have tried everything I know to do includeing
trying to reinstall dpkg but to no awail... my last and final thougt is
that this is being caused by the /usr/info/ directory being locked for
some reason and there for unaccessable by dpkg/install-info.
Is there any way to unlock the directory or even to see if it realy is
locked ... I have exausted every Idea that I know of and still I get this
error. At this point I am tempted just to make a new filesystem and start
over.
From /usr/sbin/install-info:
if (!$nowrite !link($infodir/dir,$infodir/dir.lock)) {
die $name: failed to lock dir for editing! $!\n.
($! =~ m/exists/i ? try deleting $infodir/dir.lock ?\n : '');
}
So, yes, probably something really wrong with /usr/info at that point.
Probably not to do with dpkg.
You might want to try to reinstall the package that provides
/usr/sbin/install-info, dpkg (don't remove that!).
Others on the list may have a better understanding of prel to see what
excactly is going wrong.
joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I came, I saw, ..., well, it wasn't free so I left again. (LUA, 1988)
Re: Problems working with bash.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 02-Apr-97 Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Tue, Apr 01, 1997 at 10:24:30PM +0200, J.P.D. Kooij wrote: On Mon, 31 Mar 1997, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: Gertjan == Gertjan Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gertjan Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Open up your info reader; Gertjan Don't get me started on info! Why not? Elucidate. I think info sucks. It is obsoleted by html. Clear enough? Same story here. The gnu info browser is too obscure, if you're not an emacs user; you shouldn't need to do a tutorial to use something as simple as a hypertext browser; lynx is far more obvious to use, and has (TTBOMK) the same functionality .. (although obviously for html vs info nodes.) Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust[EMAIL PROTECTED] Student, computer science computer systems engineering.3rd year, RMIT. http://yallara.cs.rmit.edu.au/~moffatt (PGP key here) CPOM: [ ] 40% Download the dwww package from debian.org. It fits the bill. It will put all i nfo,doc, and man pages into html to read with lynx. Ofcourse the originals rema in intact. It works really well. Has a small search engine also. - -- Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] E-Mail: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 02-Apr-97 Time: 06:03:31 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM0I9Awi+Ph+i3TgpAQH8igP/RRU6NNVw5uGbvRnakD0wSlQ/fngbG4Ou 4kDjSQ4GdzeG9GcG6imCyVEHvMHsPhqpmI4Kw6NGF5yMtA79sn337vfYFlFZVUou 76bm9THnljK8zCNvLicvh7OitZ/s4HSZoNPB/X6jrpuqtjvcDoeFp77Fc9HkD0FL EFh+FfabYaU= =wiMP -END PGP SIGNATURE-
RE: ncpfs module
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 02-Apr-97 G. Kapetanios wrote: Hi, I have just installed kernel 2.0.29 from the package kernel-image. All went apparently fine but the problem is that I cannot find the module ncpfs neede to mount netware volumes. As my office is based on netware it is very important for me to have this facility inorder to print and transfer files. I am currntly trying to recompile the kernel but since my previous efforts have not een very succesful I would be grateful if somebody could tell where I could get the module ncpfs.o ( I need the compiled version since I am not very comfortable compiling it my self). Thanks for any help. George --- George Kapetanios Churchill College Cambridge, CB3 0DS U.K.E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- It's pretty easy to do, George. cd /usr/src/linux (from X) run make xconfig (fr om vt) run make menuconfig. In X it brings up a GUI interface to the setup with help screens and all. The vt version uses ncurses and also has help screens av ailable. Much better than using the straight config from the old days. If you are still worried send me a list of the hardware/network requirements and I'll send you a kernel/module package. Take about 10 min's. - -- Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] E-Mail: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 02-Apr-97 Time: 06:09:39 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM0I+cwi+Ph+i3TgpAQH5uAP9Hxe1XP4iH7c4FT/0gXdptIcy0FVBkBRj rvIiEnQkRsrLGFP8E6Rp50sxBnsqh60zEoucuLjJ/euMPcaliaw7NuN9t4xmKN0z FUnkd3i0G17tM7nOFtyOobmeRzE3zuhmcgQvHTUb/15QCNrhwMMA1BvvgkMTfepD e76qVCMhsB4= =1rx7 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Shadow
Hi where can I find the patch for debian to use shadow password? Lutz Mueller -- , _ _ _RGA-NET (XLink-POP Remscheid) /|/ / | _| Lutz Mueller (administrativer Ansprechpartner) | \_|(_|, eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; \_| Tel.: +49 2191 909 418
RE: DosEmu corrupting console?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 02-Apr-97 Remco van de Meent wrote: Hey I'm using a V7 Spea videocard, with a S3 Trio32 chipset. When I want to run dosemu with 'graphics' in de optionline of the videodefinition, my consolescreen gets corrupted when returning to Linux. But it goes only wrong when using 132 chars/line. When I'm using 80x50 for example, everything goes perfectly. Anybody any hints? thanks! // Remco van de Meent // email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // www: http://cam053212.student.utwente.nl //Never make any mistaeks. I have the same problem switching from X to vt with my TGUI9680XGI card in bpp 1 6 mode. I use the SVGATextMode program to reset my screen when I go to text mod e. At least until I find out how it's done more gracefully. You can get the package from debian.org. Once it's set up you just have to type stm in the dark and it will reset it. If you hear anything let me know it might fix my problem too. As a matter of fa ct I'll post one myself while I'm thinking of it. - -- Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] E-Mail: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 02-Apr-97 Time: 06:15:10 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM0I/vgi+Ph+i3TgpAQHb0gP/RbEWAcizuYCKnPcGvrsaLTqPZqmRJnhd BoIgYX2d2Oo14o5sLWY4Zy85Vk8Dy3vQrp4TTmdLJsYq115jYJqHGaz1zipSJvJL LQ2BURnD0wYlR9Hv2G3PQXI+VRbkc5KoFSy6QjyMvrG66e55//60d8lAIzYFhMzR Y7Jl2N3mLSk= =MP6E -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Unidentified subject!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hey All: I have a Jaton video-57p with a Trident TGUI9680XGI chipset. Three problems. In order to run bpp 16 I have to set it to fast_dram (40 ns) when it has med_dra m (70 ns). When I use the correct setting the SVGA server tells me that the car d only supports 40mhz clocks but needs 44.9. I know it does support the clock s peed since it's in the doc's and I'm using X at that dot clock now. When I switch back to a vt my screen is garbled as if the server isn't setting t he card back to the correct timings for text mode. Right now I'm using SVGAText Mode to reset it each time but would rather have it done correctly. Lastly. This is related to the first problem. I should be able to run bpp 32 a t 640x480 but can't get beyond bpp 16 no matter what. The server supports up to bpp 32 for my chipset but tells me the clocks are too low. A glitch in the ser ver? A while ago there was a svga server for Trident but I haven't seen it. Any suggestions? Thanks... - -- Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] E-Mail: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 02-Apr-97 Time: 06:31:41 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM0JDnQi+Ph+i3TgpAQGoRAP/UwiFJp5M9QJLYbU0DIzhhczWR/XwGHhY zhVk2QXYdXJd8legdAzeLl445kUr301KuAH3FKh8uq+qIQLFQGNoMcTBug42gkyz JP1LbXkOsaPwfotEb4lUl7fLIhcpFTspZZw5PUCDMNIB+1iQGeamQ7fHSO2FIHd5 1CryH/jye8U= =EkHa -END PGP SIGNATURE-
ldconfig 1.2.8 troubles
I`ve recently attained the iconnect 1.2.8 cd and was upgrading in small steps my aging 1.1 (with bits of 1.2 and uinstable) system. I upgraded ldso and now ldconfig gives errors like below. ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libslang.so.0 (No such file or directory), skipping ldconfig: warning: can't open /lib/libXm.so.2 (No such file or directory), skipping I`m scared to turn my box off now incase it doesn`t boot again. ;) Help! Ozzy, __ _ _ / \ \ \ / / / / / |-Brian SkreegIRC:_Ozzy-| \__/ \ \ |-Lead guitarist extraordinaire-| \__/_/ |-I don't look like two zombies-|
modules to modutils
I'm trying to upgrade from base/modules to base/modutiles. I've made it to the point where dpkg -l gives me the following: ic modules 2.1.23-1 Dummy package for upgrade to modutils ii modutils2.1.23-2 Linux module utilities. Am I done? Thanks Paul Serice
Decodeing base64 stuff
Is there a utility that I can use in Deban to decode base64 files? Thanks. -- Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]404-996-6955 Factory Automation Systems Atlanta Ga. -- Look, look, see Windows 95. Buy, lemmings, buy! Pay no attention to that cliff ahead...Henry Spencer (c) 1997 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited.
RE: ldconfig 1.2.8 troubles
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 02-Apr-97 Brian Skreeg wrote: I`ve recently attained the iconnect 1.2.8 cd and was upgrading in small steps my aging 1.1 (with bits of 1.2 and uinstable) system. I upgraded ldso and now ldconfig gives errors like below. ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libslang.so.0 (No such file or directory ), skipping ldconfig: warning: can't open /lib/libXm.so.2 (No such file or directory), skip ping I`m scared to turn my box off now incase it doesn`t boot again. ;) Help! Ozzy, __ _ _ / \ \ \ / / / / / |-Brian SkreegIRC:_Ozzy-| \__/ \ \ |-Lead guitarist extraordinaire-| \__/_/ |-I don't look like two zombies-| Sounds like the upgrade removed some lib's but left the links dangling. If they 're not needed don't worry. Maybe the rest of the install process will replace the lib's. Another possibility is that your filing system is corrupt and eating away at you r lib's. Happened to me before. Ugg! I hope it's nothing. Check to see if the files are gone. libslang isn't needed to reboot, nor libXm. So far your good. Although libXm is a Motif lib. Does this new program use Motif? Anyway. I don't really have an answer for you. Just thought I'd throw a few id eas your way. - -- Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] E-Mail: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 02-Apr-97 Time: 06:55:25 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM0JJLQi+Ph+i3TgpAQFD3gQAooV8u2gDHuPY7SLsXaScyNed81e07mcS DzeLDMp0FkHwFEDiNfQscW5gZpBn3wXX+YcaoOHqREm4MaSw5KRpsjmFjC7XBEM3 65mWvBV9z+zDrWIF7F5i7qlbG/wWTTbJmb4OEADrqjA7lvOvrUaGya+HWQNOE+bF rJXSJAzCKMs= =UfU2 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
RE: Decodeing base64 stuff
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 02-Apr-97 Stan Brown wrote: Is there a utility that I can use in Deban to decode base64 files? Thanks. -- Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] 404-996-6955 Factory Automation Systems Atlanta Ga. -- Look, look, see Windows 95. Buy, lemmings, buy! Pay no attention to that cliff ahead...Henry Spencer (c) 1997 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited. Are you talking about pgp-armor files? If so you can get pgp 2.6.2 from mit.edu . - -- Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] E-Mail: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 02-Apr-97 Time: 07:11:45 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM0JNAQi+Ph+i3TgpAQFvgwP/ZEJZc2AvvcLrWDljjTlHWjpq92EK0pvQ nZ0dseaT87ShejVxUarNOKimlGXSZGFMNCLpcgwARJ1Vme3oE9q5WOvUBRIlnpje QP64QTVms1caASXKRj3vp+SvL8vlglyQwdosS3zKtWGPd/aDSlQZa+QZKpnX4z3r F3pjIdJN0hc= =JBu5 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Decodeing base64 stuff
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Stan Brown wrote: Is there a utility that I can use in Deban to decode base64 files? Pine does it automatically. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 iQCVAgUBM0JPSCqK7IlOjMLFAQEz2gQAqZ/FNeinMWEqd0/87IW5EwJueZu1NAiM 2PzfhUfNnzQaZ5LaEl6yqq5Tj4P6TWWGufB5TbBV3qTWHL2INE6wvWhFFRMRY+eL dcGV5U+D/VYYPLIkJMjMJJJi0WoYI1F47jlwkfA2/yzqUGKdbKbK/XyycCV+D3Lr +TGa0KumhKw= =VRMs -END PGP SIGNATURE- Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Decodeing base64 stuff
On Apr 2, Stan Brown wrote : Is there a utility that I can use in Deban to decode base64 files? Pipe through MetaMail ... Use mutt as your mailreader ... Heiko -- email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp : A1 7D F6 7B 69 73 48 35 E1 DE 21 A7 A8 9A 77 92 finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpziJXj1OM5N.pgp Description: PGP signature
GlimpseHTTP anyone?
Is anyone using GlimpseHTTP as a search engine on their Debian system? I am having difficulty getting it configured to work on my 1.2 system. The folks at Glimpse (http://glimpse.cs.arizona.edu/ghttp/ ) have not been real helpful. If someone has gotten this working, please email me so we can compare notes on the installation process. Thanks! -- Ken Gaugler N6OSK Santa Clara, California email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.wco.com/~keng The life of a Repo Man is always INTENSE...
Re: Decodeing base64 stuff
uudecode should work Alfons Juan On Wed, 2 Apr 1997, Stan Brown wrote: Is there a utility that I can use in Deban to decode base64 files? Thanks. -- Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] 404-996-6955 Factory Automation Systems Atlanta Ga. -- Look, look, see Windows 95. Buy, lemmings, buy! Pay no attention to that cliff ahead...Henry Spencer (c) 1997 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited.
Dump hangs on my system
My nightly backup script seems to be hanging in the middle of its first dump: DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Wed Apr 2 00:11:29 1997 DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch DUMP: Dumping /dev/hda2 (/) to /dev/rft0 DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories] DUMP: estimated 14710 tape blocks on 0.01 tape(s). DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories] ps listing: root 722 92.1 0.6 1016 400 p3 R 00:11 464:07 /usr/local/sbin/dump Any ideas, suggestions on how to fix? There have been no recent changes to the system, except for the removal of some development libraries via dselect. Thanks, Pete -- Peter J. Templin, Jr. Client Services Analyst Computer Communication Services tel: (717) 524-1590 Bucknell University [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ncpfs module and kernel recompile
Hi, Following my previous email and the reply on the list I tried to recompile the kernel. The problems I had are as follws I can create the .config file using make config. No problem. Then I run the make-kpkg command from the kernel-package I am in /usr/src/linux which is a symlink for /usr/src/kernel-2.0.29 The exact syntax I use is make-kpkg --zimage --revision custom-1.0 buildpackages . This runs apparently fine. I use he --zimage option because from what I have in /boot the kernel must be in a file called vmlinuz I assume that this means that the image must be compressed. Problem No. 1 When I use for pactise the .config file which comes with the kernel-source I get a loop when the variable CONFIG_DLCI_COUNT is processed It says something about maximal counts. OK so I edit the .config file and unset the DLCI variables. I don't need them anyway Problem 2 Then the thing runs ( both for the standard .config and my own .config and gives me a vmlinux file larger thatn 512 Kb and so lilo says it is too big and will not include it in the boot record or whatever for booting. So it is not compressing the image. I tried to gzip the thging myself. Probably stupid, at boot time it said Loading kernel .. and hung there. So I don't know what to do. I need to compile my own kernel since the sound module has disappeared from the modules section too when I upgraded from 2.0.0 to 2.0.27 I would be grateful for any help and ideas., Thanks George
RE: Decodeing base64 stuff
man munpack (part of MIME). Regards, Dave Ross, Senior Technical Specialist -Original Message- From: Alfons Juan i Ciscar [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 1997 3:46 PM To: Stan Brown Cc: Debian User List Subject:Re: Decodeing base64 stuff uudecode should work Alfons Juan On Wed, 2 Apr 1997, Stan Brown wrote: Is there a utility that I can use in Deban to decode base64 files? Thanks. -- Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] 404-996-6955 Factory Automation Systems Atlanta Ga. -- Look, look, see Windows 95. Buy, lemmings, buy! Pay no attention to that cliff ahead...Henry Spencer (c) 1997 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited.
slight preoblem with man
Hi, Lately I had a slight problem with man. I have man-db v 2.3.10-33 and manpages 1.15-2 installed from unstable. Whenever I install a new package and run man, man says that it updates its database. Lately It produces warnings concerning dangling symlink. The problem seems to concern mainly the file undocumented.7.gz in .../man/man7 .However as more pckages are installed more warnings come up when the man database is updated. I reinstalled the man-db and manpages packages . The first time only undocumented produced warning. Today I got the following Updating index cache for path `/usr/man'. Wait...man: warning: /usr/man/man7/undocumented.7 is a dangling symlink man: can't open /usr/man/man1/netscape.1: No such file or directory man: warning: /usr/man/man1/netscape.1: bad symlink or ROFF `.so' request man: warning: /usr/man/man7/undocumented.7 is a dangling symlink man: can't open /usr/man/man1/lclint.1: No such file or directory man: warning: /usr/man/man1/lclint.1: bad symlink or ROFF `.so' request done. lclint has come up befiore too. Can somebody tell if this is a bug or if I am doing something wrong ?? Thanks, George --- George Kapetanios Churchill College Cambridge, CB3 0DS U.K.E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Backup procedure
Hi, backups!!! Backups have always been a mistery to me, a pain I should say. However, I realize the importance of backups. I am looking for a backup procedure to implement here at my company. We have a couple of Novell servers, several Linux boxes (two of them are production servers very important to our Information Technology structure) and an H-P 9000 server running HP-UX. Each server has a dedictaed tape unit attached (DDS, aka DAT.) Right now we are making full backups from Monday to Friday so we can go back only five days. We are not taking tapes off-site either. I want to know about rotation methods (I've heard about Granfather-Father-Son, 10 tape, Hanoi Towers but the information is not clear), when to take tapes off-site, Debian backup utilities, etc. Any URL will be appreciated. I am search Yahoo right now but without luck so far. Thanks in advance, Eloy.- -- Eloy A. Paris Information Technology Department Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: +58-2-9432311 Fax: +58-2-9431645 Cel.: +58-16-234700 Where does this path lead? said Alice Depends on where you want to go. Said the cat (Alice in Wonderland, by Lewis Carroll.)
Re: Problems working with bash.
On Wed, 2 Apr 1997, Hamish Moffatt wrote: Open up your info reader; Gertjan Don't get me started on info! Why not? Elucidate. I think info sucks. It is obsoleted by html. Clear enough? Same story here. The gnu info browser is too obscure, if you're not an emacs user; you shouldn't need to do a tutorial to use something as simple as a hypertext browser; lynx is far more obvious to use, and has (TTBOMK) the same functionality .. (although obviously for html vs info nodes.) Please try tkinfo 1.3 in the unstable /doc/ directory or get it from the tkinfo web page http://www.math.ucsb.edu/~boldt/tkinfo/. It's _much_ better than using emacs, and I'm a huge emacs fan. ...RickM...
RE: slight preoblem with man
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 02-Apr-97 G. Kapetanios wrote: Hi, Lately I had a slight problem with man. I have man-db v 2.3.10-33 and manpages 1.15-2 installed from unstable. Whenever I install a new package and run man, man says that it updates its database. Lately It produces warnings concerning dangling symlink. The problem seems to concern mainly the file undocumented.7.gz in .../man/man7 .However as more pckages are installed more warnings come up when the man database is updated. I reinstalled the man-db and manpages packages . The first time only undocumented produced warning. Today I got the following Updating index cache for path `/usr/man'. Wait...man: warning: /usr/man/man7/undocumented.7 is a dangling symlink man: can't open /usr/man/man1/netscape.1: No such file or directory man: warning: /usr/man/man1/netscape.1: bad symlink or ROFF `.so' request man: warning: /usr/man/man7/undocumented.7 is a dangling symlink man: can't open /usr/man/man1/lclint.1: No such file or directory man: warning: /usr/man/man1/lclint.1: bad symlink or ROFF `.so' request done. lclint has come up befiore too. Can somebody tell if this is a bug or if I am doing something wrong ?? Thanks, George What's up, George: What it seems to be is that the man-db update makes a change. To fix it I just went to /usr/man/man7 and cp un...7.gz un...bak then gunzipped un...7.gz. Probl em fixed. Ofcourse you can run symlinks -d -r /usr/man to delete the dangling l inks and forget about it too. That is just a man page that states that there is no doc's on the requested subject etc... If you just delete the links it will just say man page not found like the others. See ya. --- George Kapetanios Churchill College Cambridge, CB3 0DS U.K.E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- - -- Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] E-Mail: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 02-Apr-97 Time: 09:18:09 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM0JqoQi+Ph+i3TgpAQGPCAP8C51RgOq0FLhfivsky5OKQBxxTGCaRnoC MEnbPEwaWHaHTktJNFG1xrBxGqCqR5c2HLfVIxsAZgR30tvwp1uYNO4yHnS2mtDe Q9D56DWDM+/aY4qWnxBIIqr4XrbrGd4QnwzqnvL1KiN5B/ikr+98OXhnAPeJeAkM JqexjEyORJQ= =mHO3 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
TkInfo versus Emacs/Info [was Re: Problems working with bash.]
I thought it worthwhile to send this again with a Subject that might attract the attention of more people. Open up your info reader; Gertjan Don't get me started on info! Why not? Elucidate. I think info sucks. It is obsoleted by html. Clear enough? Same story here. The gnu info browser is too obscure, if you're not an emacs user; you shouldn't need to do a tutorial to use something as simple as a hypertext browser; lynx is far more obvious to use, and has (TTBOMK) the same functionality .. (although obviously for html vs info nodes.) Please try tkinfo 1.3 in the unstable /doc/ directory or get it from the tkinfo web page http://www.math.ucsb.edu/~boldt/tkinfo/. It's _much_ better than using emacs, and I'm a huge emacs fan. ...RickM...
RE: ncpfs module and kernel recompile
Hi George: I do my kernel builds a little differently however they always seem to work. I'll assume that you ran the patch-kernel and got the updated modutils. I don't know if the modutils are an absolute requirement however the doc does say these utils are for 2.1.18 and above. After I run my make config or menuconfig or xconfig, I run make zImage. The readme in linux says that If your kernel is too large for make zImage, use make bzImage. I've used both, they work well. Following that I do a make install. Everything seems to get copied into /boot. My filenames are vmlinuz as well. When the install asks if I want to run lilo I answer yes. Following that I go to the root directory rm the existing vmlinux and System.map and re-link them to the newly installed boot image and map. ( ln -s boot/vmlinuz-2.1.29 vmlinuz and ln -s boot/System.map-2.1.29 to System.map). Then I run lilo again and reboot. I know this is not exactly what the documentation says to do however it always seems to work. Regards, peter -- From: G. Kapetanios wrote: I would be grateful for any help and ideas., Thanks George
RE: ncpfs module and kernel recompile
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 02-Apr-97 Peter Iannarelli wrote: Hi George: I do my kernel builds a little differently however they always seem to work. I'll assume that you ran the patch-kernel and got the updated modutils. I don't know if the modutils are an absolute requirement however the doc does say these utils are for 2.1.18 and above. After I run my make config or menuconfig or xconfig, I run make zImage. The readme in linux says that If your kernel is too large for make zImage, use make bzImage. I've used both, they work well. Following that I do a make install. Everything seems to get copied into /boot. My filenames are vmlinuz as well. When the install asks if I want to run lilo I answer yes. Following that I go to the root directory rm the existing vmlinux and System.ma p and re-link them to the newly installed boot image and map. ( ln -s boot/vmlinuz-2.1.29 vmlinuz and ln -s boot/System.map-2.1 29 to System.map). Then I run lilo again and r eboot. I know this is not exactly what the documentation says to do however it always seems to work. Regards, peter -- From: G. Kapetanios wrote: I would be grateful for any help and ideas., Thanks George Hey Peteer: Using make zlilo does all of that for you. And if I remember correctly make bzimage is/was (it's been over a year since I've read about that command) for co mpiling floppy images that are too large. I have made kernels in the 800k range and never had to use any other command than make zlilo. - -- Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] E-Mail: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 02-Apr-97 Time: 09:52:53 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM0Jy0gi+Ph+i3TgpAQFOegP/cIn+0RET70KwlGpePD8Ca9PizxUZIu2i m4gXQ3yWNhJYCeUIj84rUPaV1AxKs229nx7GgYdusHYLXyxIUOSebvUvCMrFwJVC ln0QiBHCTfhoZgO3lka85o5ZmEi4p5oaMhzGjNUQW+eE+Wn0AcdaSOTzCV9Sc051 v+dOzWKZ/Uc= =KPj2 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Decodeing base64 stuff
- Received message begins Here - Is there a utility that I can use in Deban to decode base64 files? Thanks. -- Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] 404-996-6955 Factory Automation Systems Atlanta Ga. -- You can get a copy of mpack which includes munpack to decode base64 mime encoded files from ftp.andrew.cmu.edu:pub/mpack. I don't know if there is a debianized version or not, but I installed from mpack-1.5-src.tar.Z and it worked great. Jim. Jim Lynch, System Engineer, SGI/Cray Research, Inc. / ARS: K4GVO Federal Business Systems, Phone: (770) 631-2254, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite 270, 200 Westpark Drive, Peachtree City, GA 30269
Re: Backup procedure
Eloy A. Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: clip I want to know about rotation methods (I've heard about Granfather-Father-Son, 10 tape, Hanoi Towers but the information is not clear), when to take tapes off-site, Debian backup utilities, etc. The man page for dump gives details of how to do this. I use dump, and with 10 tapes can restore to two months ago, one month ago, any Friday of this month, or any day of this week. Thanks in advance, Eloy.- -- Eloy A. Paris Information Technology Department Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: +58-2-9432311 Fax: +58-2-9431645 Cel.: +58-16-234700 -- Norris Preyer (541) 962-3310 (office) Physics Program (541) 962-3873 (fax) Eastern Oregon University [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Grande, OR 97850http://140.211.64.20/npreyer.html
Re: Decodeing base64 stuff
On Wed, 2 Apr 1997, Stan Brown wrote: Is there a utility that I can use in Deban to decode base64 files? Dispite all the very interesting suggestions so far, I think that what you are looking for is the mpack package in the mail section. This package provides mpack and munpack and they work fine. I use munpack from my news reader to unpack base64 stuff all the time and it works great. Luck, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_-_- _-_-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 _-_-_-_-_-_- If you don't see what you want, just ask _-_-_-_-_-_-_-
Re: ncpfs module and kernel recompile
This is a bit of a cop-out, but it works cleanly almost every time: If bringing your system down is not a problem, it would probably be easier (read: less time consuming) to reboot off the emergency disk (Debian 1.2) or the Boot disk (Debian 1.1) and go through the setup again. Instead of repartitioning and re-initializing, mount your previously initialized swap and root partitions, and configure the drivers again. Under the driver configuration menu, under file system drivers, is the ncpfs module. Select it for installation and add it to the kernel. One caveat on using the ncpfs/ipx modules (and no disrespect to the authors; they have done a great job of working around the non-disclosure limitation from Novell): they are not full implementations, and cannot sense disconnected sessions. If your Novell server ends or disconnects the logged-in account used to mount the volumes in mid-write/read, the ncpfs module will hang and not be able to sync the mounted volumes. I've been able to kill the process conducting the write/read by using the kill -9 option if I catch it early enough, but leaving it unattended may result in a memory-space full of uncleared zombie processes, eventually leading to a failure of the entire system, cold reboot and filesystem repair. I have tried to limit this by keeping the Novell sessions short and handling autonomous (crontab) processes through a central control script. If anyone has an alternative way of mounting Novell servers (nfs maybe), I would love to hear it. Rgds, BK
BUG in dinstall script in BO IMPORTANT!
There is a problem with the unstable installation script! a variable has not been correctly defined for the installation medium and thus I cannot install from floppy disks! I think that there are some other problems besides that but I hadn't downloaded the base1_2.tgz so I could not complete the installation process. Please fix it Thnx
Re: BUG in dinstall script in BO IMPORTANT!
Please send full details to Sven Rudolph [EMAIL PROTECTED] . He is maintaining the script. Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3
Re: shadow question
Adam == Adam Shand [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: when you say doesn't work, do you mean it appears a normal login is about to occur, the server flashes, and then the console login reloads? i've seen that and yes its a permission issue. Adam Yep that's what happens... if I put in the wrong password it Adam comes up with Login incorrect as it should but if I put in Adam the right passwd it all but logs in and then goes back to Adam the xdm login window... I can login via telnet or virtual Adam console so I doubt it's shadow... (though installing shadow Adam does appear to be what broke it...). I'm using afterstep Adam pre4 if it matters. I had that happen too; what it turned out to be was that in my ~/.xsession script, everything got backgrounded, and when the script ends, so does the X session. You have to background everything but the last program, which keeps the session open until you close it. For that, you can use the Window Manager, or something like 'unclutter' or 'xautolock'. Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg Portland, OR USA Debian GNU 1.2 Linux 2.0.29t You tell me and we'll both know.
Re: pap and diald
Richard Morin wrote: Hi folks, I was wondering if anyone who uses diald could help me with pap authentication. I've just changed ISP's and of course they are an Nt shop who are changing over to solaris... I was able to figure out my connection problems with minicom at my old ISP , but here, it gets to the point of telling me the speed and stuff about the connection, and dies shortly after. No login prompt, no cursor, nada... How do I pass the info to the server? or get it to tell me what it wants? pap is something I haven't had to worry about till now Rich M On systems which do PAP rather than the standard login/password dialog, they sometimes just wait there for PPP to start coming from your side and if they don't get it within a certain amount of time they just give up and hang up. In this case you first need to change your diald chat script so that it exits successfully after receiving 'CONNECT'. This way pppd will start sending CONFREQs immediately. In order to get PAP working you first need the file /etc/ppp/pap-secrets. This file contains the passwords which pppd will use. Which password is used depends on the local and remote names. The local name will be whatever your login account name is. Let's say I'm connecting to Joe's ISP with pap, and my account login is FOO while my password is BAR. I will put a line in /etc/ppp/pap-secrets like this: FOO * BAR I'm not sure that it matters, but since I've had trouble with pap-secrets in the past, separate the tokens on this line with a tab, not spaces. This line means that for any connection where my local name is FOO, send the password BAR. I think the remote name is based upon the remote IP address or something, in any case don't worry about it. The next thing to do is to tell pppd what your user name is (so that it can find this entry in pap-secrets). This is accomplished with the pppd option 'user user name'. If you only connect to one account with pppd, you could put this option in your /etc/ppp/options file. Peronally I don't, so the option must be put on the pppd command line. With diald, 'extra' options for the pppd command line must be passed on the diald command line. And with Debian, since diald is started in an /etc/init.d script, you must use the proper syntax in /etc/init.d/diald to get this right. Here's a (slightly modified to protect the innocent) excerpt from my /etc/init.d/diald file (WATCH OUT for my mail-client's reckless wrapping of lines) case $1 in start) if [ $run_diald = 1 ] then start-stop-daemon --start --verbose --exec /usr/sbin/diald -- /dev/ttyS1 - f /etc/diald/diald.options -- user FOO fi ;; Notice how the bare -- appears twice? start-stop-daemon requires this to tell it that /dev/ttyS1 -f /etc/diald/diald.options -- user FOO are to be passed as command line parameters to /usr/sbin/diald and likewise diald interprets the -- user FOO to mean that user FOO is supposed to be passed on as a command line parameters to pppd. Complicated? You bet. diald could have handled this in a config file, too bad it doesn't. Anyway just do it like this and you should be ok. If this stuff doesn't work, turn on pppd's debugging and post the event trace to the list or to me. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Converting ascii to ebcdic, and vice versa
Ralph Winslow wrote: Walter L. Preuninger II wrote: I am looking for a library function to convert ascii to ebcdic, and/or ebcdic to ascii. For example, '0' = 0x30 in ascii, 0xf0 in ebcdic. Check out the dd command. Be *very* careful with the dd command, it pads out records with blanks and can really screw up your data. I've been bitten by this before. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BUG in dinstall script in BO IMPORTANT!
On Wed, 2 Apr 1997, Leon Castellanos wrote: There is a problem with the unstable installation script! a variable has not been correctly defined for the installation medium and thus I cannot install from floppy disks! I think that there are some other problems besides that but I hadn't downloaded the base1_2.tgz so I could not complete the installation process. Please fix it Thnx This one is definitely BETA. I did an install yesterday and had to do a LOT of things by hand afterwards! Fortunately, I was able to insmod, etc. to get networking up so I could finish the install. I just noticed that my timezone is even set wrong. Paul Wade - Greenbush Technologies Corporation http://www.greenbush.com/cds.html Linux CD's sent worldwide
Re: RPM
Bruce, Note that Red Hat, Caldera, etc. are just as liable to pick up and compile a package whose author built in a booby-trap. IMHO, Red Hat, Slackware, Irix, SunOS, Solaris, HPUX are NOT AS LIKELY to INSTALL a booby-trapped package. Since extraction, compilation, and testing are nominally done by an unprivelaged user (e.g. tool.bin) before privelages are granted, a booby-trap has to be clever enough to pass the fitness of purpose testing done by the tool manager. Users, groups, and permissions are used like doors. They separate the bearer bonds (behind the safe door) from the silverware (in the fancy chest) and the phone book (lying on the counter). They separate the food (kitchen) from the pesticides (garage). Valuables like pap-secrets are protected behind superuser privelages. Good stuff (like internet access) may be protected by user privelages. The home page may be unprotected. We are working on this problem by establishing a standard for authors to use when signing their software, and we will work to get authors into the PGP web of trust through our certification authority or other means (like having a local Debian developer check them out) so that we can trace software all the way back to the original author. Author traceability is good, but a central certification authority implies either a substantial barrier to entry (the cost of certification process reliable enough for valuables), or a risk of forgery too high to protect valuables. Author certificates are like badges. Without doors (or with everything from the company advertising calendars to the payroll cash in one room) they are useless. Thank you, -- Robert Meier FANUC Robotics North America, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: 1-810-377-7469 Fax: 1-810-377-7363
Re: Hayes ESP serial port
Mike Bernson wrote: Are there any drivers to use the Hayes ESP serial card in it full fifo (1k) mode. I would also like to use speed greater then 115200. Any help where to look would be of great help. In the Serial-HOWTO, under '2. Supported Serial Hardware', section '2.4. Intelligent Multiport Serial Boards' you find: · Hayes ESP (8 - 64 ports) contact: Andrew J. Robinson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] or http://www.nyx.net/~arobinso driver status: BETA driver location: http://www.nyx.net/~arobinso and included in Linux kernel since version 2.1.15 Don't mean to sound mean, but did you *read* the Serial HOWTO? Did you ask the author, Andrew Robinson? -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dump hangs on my system
Pete Templin wrote: My nightly backup script seems to be hanging in the middle of its first dump: DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Wed Apr 2 00:11:29 1997 DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch DUMP: Dumping /dev/hda2 (/) to /dev/rft0 DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories] DUMP: estimated 14710 tape blocks on 0.01 tape(s). DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories] ps listing: root 722 92.1 0.6 1016 400 p3 R 00:11 464:07 /usr/local/sbin/dump Any ideas, suggestions on how to fix? There have been no recent changes to the system, except for the removal of some development libraries via dselect. I'd try to run it with strace, piping the output somewhere so you can read it and find out where it's hanging. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE/KDM
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) writes: KDE itself is free, but the Qt toolkit upon which KDE is free _only_when_used_with_X_. ... You'll still be able to get KDE from the non-free directory and run it. Bruce, shouldn't it be the contrib directory instead of the non-free directory? I can see many packages which depends on Motif in contrib and I do not see why should Motif be more free than Qt. -- Alair Pereira do Lago [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ime.usp.br/~alair Computer Science Department -- Universidade de S~ao Paulo -- Brazil
ppp loopback
Hi all, last time I fired up ppp it connected to my ISP, but immediatly hung up. In /var/log/daemon.log I find: Apr 1 21:05:30 zanzy pppd[351]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0 Apr 1 21:05:50 zanzy pppd[351]: Serial connection established. Apr 1 21:05:51 zanzy pppd[351]: Using interface ppp0 Apr 1 21:05:51 zanzy pppd[351]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/modem Apr 1 21:05:52 zanzy pppd[351]: Serial line is looped back. Apr 1 21:05:52 zanzy pppd[351]: Connection terminated. Apr 1 21:05:52 zanzy pppd[351]: Exit. What does this mean?(*) What can I do to prevent it? I'm using ppp-2.2.0f on a rather stable debian 1.1. With same hardware, but with old Slackware, it doesn't happen. Can somebody help me? (*) is it a sort of 'Upgrade to ppp-x.y.z' ? -- |||| ||| Marco Frattola Microsoft is not the answer ||`..'|| |||... Piacenza, ItalyMicrosoft is the question ||| ||| |||''[EMAIL PROTECTED]No is the answer ||| ||| ||| www.enjoy.it/users/~mk/index.html Live Linux, live free!
wg15-locale
Hello I've insalled the wg15-locale package, but I don't know how to use it.. :) The README says something about recompiling libc? I'd like to use the settings found in /usr/share/locale/sv_FI. Anyone know how? Thanks, Kristian
Re: RPM
IMHO, Red Hat, Slackware, Irix, SunOS, Solaris, HPUX are NOT AS LIKELY to INSTALL a booby-trapped package. Let's look at your assumptions. Since extraction, compilation, and testing are nominally done by an unprivelaged user (e.g. tool.bin) That's a pretty big assumption. a booby-trap has to be clever enough to pass the fitness of purpose testing done by the tool manager. The problem is that these other organizations have a smaller staff than Debian with little time to spend on any one package. So you are assuming that a tool manager (only one?) would see something that one of 150 less-overworked Debian developers would not. Or, you are assuming that a Debian developer gets onto the project using fraudulent ID, and then corrupts a package. Users, groups, and permissions are used like doors. I have worked as a Unix systems programmer since 1981, you do not need to explain this. I do not call myself a guru simply because people have no right to call themselves gurus, it is a title bestowed by others. Author traceability is good, but a central certification authority implies either a substantial barrier to entry (the cost of certification process reliable enough for valuables), or a risk of forgery too high to protect valuables. I agree that non-privileged installation is interesting, although to do it right you need a _separate_ ID for every package. Otherwise, you lump 100 packages into the same non-privileged ID and that one ID has too much power. However, anyone who can write a script that does something bad at installation time can as easily write a trojan-horse that runs at program execution time. Trojans are easier to hide than installation actions because the installation actions are invariably shell or perl scripts while the trojans are buried in the source of a large program or its executable. Any time a user executes a program containing a trojan horse the privileges of that user are added to the trojan's tool kit. I would like to see a proposal for reduced-privilege installation using dpkg/dselect . Feel free to write one and make a test implementation. Unfortunately, I feel that Debian must bear the cost of certification of maintainers and original authors. Unless I can tell someone I know where a program came from, no other security procedures can be trusted to have any effectiveness whatsoever. Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3
Re: Xdm Problem
Am in the process of getting a new box up running. Am wondering if there is a simple (relatively so) x manager that I can use. I plan to be at the clinic 3rd sat this month with the new unit and -hopefully- some stuff to load onto it. Thanks in advance, Dennis On Mon, 31 Mar 1997, Jim Smith wrote: In several postings to these lists, I have asked many questions and gotten many very good responses. The last major problem with this system concerns xdm. I have not been able to get xdm to properly start at boot time. Here is where I have gotten to. The last 3 lines in my /etc/X11/config file are thus: start-xfs start-xdm xdm-start-server my /usr/X11/xdm/Xservers ends with this line: :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -verbose -bpp 24 (my card supports 24bit) I believe these to be correct. At boot time, the screen shows the usual scrolling messages, then shows: Starting xfs Starting /usr/X11/bin/xdm. Password: As soon as the Password: prompt appears, the display starts blinking rapidly as if going into an endless loop. I'm unable to login, change VC's or anything but the 3 fingers. Booting then from the Debian Rescue disk allows me to go in and rename Xservers to something else and restore my backup file to Xservers. The next bootup is normal and goes all the way to the Password: prompt where I enter the root password and proceed as normal. Question: does the login sequence begin with root pre-loaded in and can that be changed? It looks like once the login sequence is started it won't allow xdm to proceed. Since xdm provides its own login widget, thats where I would prefer to do my login. I wish to not log in as root unless absolutely necessary. I've found that su root in an xterm gives me all the flexibility I need to do system maintenance and I'm still really logged in as a user. Please, any and all help would be appreciated... Jim -- Debian Linux! Where I REALLY went today! Jim Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oz.net/~jim/
Re: Decodeing base64 stuff
On 2 Apr, Dale Scheetz wrote: On Wed, 2 Apr 1997, Stan Brown wrote: Is there a utility that I can use in Deban to decode base64 files? Dispite all the very interesting suggestions so far, I think that what you are looking for is the mpack package in the mail section. This package provides mpack and munpack and they work fine. I use munpack from my news reader to unpack base64 stuff all the time and it works great. I don't think anyone's mentioned 'uudeview' yet, it automatically detects and decodes XX, UU, Base64 and BinHex. For a newsgroup it's perfect to dump all interesting articles into a single file and let uudecode loose on it (uudeview -i file) (doesn't handle interleaved parts from different multipart files though) 'uuenview' can code to XX, UU and base64 (don't know about BinHex). /Michael -- |Linux: Turn on...Tune in...Fork out... | |Michael Tempsch, member of Ballistic Wizards, TIP#088, TDGP#20 | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Cell.Phone:+46 705487554 URL:http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d1temp |
A Qt alternative for KDE?
Would anyone be interested in working on a GPL-ed clone of Qt? This would make KDE entirely free. I'd like to hear sentiment on this before I take any more steps. Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3
Re: KDE/KDM
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) writes: KDE itself is free, but the Qt toolkit upon which KDE is free _only_when_used_with_X_. You'll still be able to get KDE from the non-free directory and run it. From: Alair Pereira do Lago [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bruce, shouldn't it be the contrib directory instead of the non-free directory? I can see many packages which depends on Motif in contrib and I do not see why should Motif be more free than Qt. I don't have my talmudic hat on today (too tired, and getting ready for Linux Expo). Check out the Debian Policy Manual and see what it says - if it needs improvement on this please write to the policy manager. Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3
Re: KDE/KDM
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are there any plans to package KDE (www.kde.org) or any of it's components? KDE will be packaged, and you will be able to use it, but Debian is most interested in 100% free desktop environments, so we have to be a bit careful with KDE. KDE itself is free, but the Qt toolkit upon which KDE is free _only_when_used_with_X_. I think that Toll Tech, the creators of Qt, made it free on X so that they could have lots of free software to sell with their non-free versions under Windows, NT, etc. Just to correct possible mis-understanding of Bruce's statement... You don't have to buy Qt in order to run free Qt based software for Windows, NT, etc. Anyone can distribute Qt based software for any platform that Qt supports. But someone would have to purchase a copy of Qt in order to port or develop for Windows, NT, etc. And the Qt library sources can't be freely distributed with the software. We would like to have the freedom to use major Debian components with other window systems than X (Berlin is one, but there are others on the horizon as well), and even other operating system than Linux (there's the Hurd, for example), which rules out the possibility that we would make the core of Debian _depend_ on KDE. You'll still be able to get KDE from the non-free directory and run it. Other interesting desktop projects include GnuStep (http://www.gnustep.org), and FSF's own desktop project Teak, which doesn't seem to be going yet (http://www.fsf.org/software/teak). Then there's an entire replacement for X in Berlin (http://veda.synet.net/numan/berlin/), but of course they only have one component of that in Alpha-test so far. Thanks Bruce -- BAN KEY ESCROW. Privacy is your right! Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- Lee Olds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The ultimate fate of Debian
I know that there is great debate over the future of the various Linux distributions. Now I am seriously concerned for the future of Debian. As we all know (or at least those of us up-to-date with the current news of the US), a group of computer-literate people just killed themselves so that they could 'hop' (an interesting combination of the name of the comet) on Hale-Bopp (or at least on a spaceship associated with it). Now, the leader of this group was/is (depending upon your beliefs) a man who at one time called himself 'Bo'. Hopefully you can see my concern for Debian. It must not be a coincidence that the next release of Debian bears this name...that it will be release just as Hale-Bopp hurtles away from the inner solar system. I solemly hope that, with the release of bo, the entire Debian developers team does not use the same cosmic 'hlt' instruction! Just a thought. (Hope its not wasting too much bandwidth...) Paul
Re: PGP compile error...Linux
Hi. This is a known problem in the PGP 2.6.2 distribution. In order to compile it for Linux/ELF, you will need to make a change to the sources. The quick change is to add ASMDEF=-DSYSV to the Linux make rule in the makefile. However this will not allow it to compile under Linux/a.out anymore. The proper fix, which is detailed on the PGP FAQ, Buglist, Fixes, and Improvements Page is to modify 80386.S and zmatch.S to look for the symbol __ELF__ in addition to SYSV. This page, by the way, is available at this URL: http://www.mit.edu:8001/people/warlord/pgp-faq.html Enjoy! -derek -- Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory Member, MIT Student Information Processing Board (SIPB) URL: http://web.mit.edu/warlord/ PP-ASEL N1NWH [EMAIL PROTECTED]PGP key available
