Re: scsi controllers, bsd file system

[Rick Hawkins]

a-hah!  I've gotten somewhere--but it's not good.

Once I connected the three scsi devices, I found that it finds all 3.
But . . . The last device in the list does not get a /dev/srX entry.
Thus with jus a cd and a zip in the chain, the cd gets one, but not the
zip.  With both cd's & the zip, both cd's but not the zip.  with just a
cd, nothing gets one.  e.g.:

scsi0 : BIOS version 3.4 at 0xc8000 using scsi id 7
scsi0 : TMC-18C30 chip at 0x140 irq 11
scsi0 : Future Domain TMC-16x0 SCSI driver, version 5.44
scsi : 1 host.
  Vendor: SONY  Model: CD-ROM CDU-8001   Rev: 3.2i
  Type:   CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 01 CCS
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 3, lun 0
  Vendor: IOMEGAModel: ZIP 100   Rev: D.09
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02

and there should be, but isn't, a recognition that the zip is id5 and
sr1.  

Also, i think the nec drive has a problem.  I can mount my kids cds as
iso devices in the apple drive (don't know how far i could read, but at
least the beginnings), but not on the nec (which hangs).

I can't mount these cd's that you've so generously sent, though.  I've
tried iso9660 and ext2.  Are they possibly msdos?  (i'm compiling more
modules for this at the moment).

rick


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Kernel "make config"

[Lalovic, Drazen]

I have just installed debian 1.3 and downloaded some packages from the
ftp site. Since I want to use it as a firewall I have to recompile
kernel to enable IP forwarding.
How can I do it? How to configure second Ethernet card.
Thank you,
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Re: majordomo and perl 5.004

[RHS Linux User]

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Re: scsi controllers, bsd file system

[Paul Wade]

On Wed, 25 Jun 1997, Rick Hawkins wrote:

> grr.  Still going :(  I am about to connect more pieces here in the
> chain.
> 
> Device 0 (i can't figure out how to change the id; the switches seem to
> do nothing) will be this troublesome NEC intersect drive.  Device 3 is
> an ancient apple cdrom drive--it should be able to read the directory &
> first few megs (if anyone understands how to recalibrate these ancient
> sony monstrosities with their timing slug, i'd be eternally grateful!).
> Device 5 is a zip, with my macbsd partitions.
> 
> Which leads to the magic question:  what type is a netbsd (but not their
> newfs) disk?  is it still type 83?  a5 (bsd386)?  b7 (BSDI fs)?
> 
> and is anyone out there using a trantor t160?
> 
> The next step is to use the distribution kernel, but:  how do i extract
> it from resc1440.bin?  

The file named 'linux' in /bo/disks-i386/current is a kernel. I think it's
the same as the one in the rescue disk. It's the same size.

You can mount the rescue image on loopback and copy files from it.

mount resc1440.bin -r -t msdos -o loop /mnt/floppy1

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PATH and other environment variables

[Peter S Galbraith]

Let me preface this by saying I might have screwed this up by myself...

After installing debian-1.3, I find that the PATH is not very complete.
After is quick look, it lacks the paths for games (/usr/games/) and 
mh programs (/usr/bin/mh/).

Aren't these packages supposed to add their path to /etc/profile and 
/etc/csh.login ?

Also, setting LS_OPTIONS to something liek "--8bit --color=tty -F -T 0"
would be nice.  The default setup doesn't have a working colour `ls'.

Also, `xterm' doesn't start because it says it can't find the proper 
termcap entry.  rxvt starts okay.

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How compile telnet like Debian telnet?

[Carlos Marcos Kakihara]

I have 2 machines, on the first I'm using Debian and on the other,
a linux that I had compiled everthing, without using pre-compiled packages.
In the second machine (not Debian), when I use /usr/bin/telnet in a xterm
and do a ls -l /usr/lib in the remote machine (Every action that have a
extended output do this), it logs out from the system, while on the Debian
machine /usr/bin/telnet works fine. The package used was NetKit-0.09.tar.gz.
If needed, I list all packages used (including the libs).
Thank's for any help!


Carlos Marcos Kakihara (bacate)

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Departamento de Informatica

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Re: Dat vs. Travan

[Behan Webster]

Behan Webster wrote:
> 
> Can anyone explain the pros and cons of DAT versus Travan tape drives?

I think I've answered my own question.  For those interested,
check out http://www.hp.com/tape/wppos.html

Behan

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Re: XEMACS Install problem !!!!!! + w3-el stufff .........

[Christian Meder]

On Jun 25, Eddie Katz wrote
> 
> the "w3-el" package available is dependent on EMACS and not on XEMACS is 
> there a
>  w3-el available for XEMACS anywhere ??

Hi,

I believe it's already included in the xemacs package. You don't have
to install it seperately.

Greetings,

Christian
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scsi controllers, bsd file system

[Rick Hawkins]

grr.  Still going :(  I am about to connect more pieces here in the
chain.

Device 0 (i can't figure out how to change the id; the switches seem to
do nothing) will be this troublesome NEC intersect drive.  Device 3 is
an ancient apple cdrom drive--it should be able to read the directory &
first few megs (if anyone understands how to recalibrate these ancient
sony monstrosities with their timing slug, i'd be eternally grateful!).
Device 5 is a zip, with my macbsd partitions.

Which leads to the magic question:  what type is a netbsd (but not their
newfs) disk?  is it still type 83?  a5 (bsd386)?  b7 (BSDI fs)?

and is anyone out there using a trantor t160?

The next step is to use the distribution kernel, but:  how do i extract
it from resc1440.bin?  

rick


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Re: RFC: Prospective Kernel-Compiling mini-HOWTO

[Pete Harlan]

> > back to /dev/hda.
> > 
> > Perhaps I'm wrong,

And I was! :)

(As always---sigh.  3 years using Linux daily and I probably
understand 10% of what's running on my systems.)

> It's fine to set boot=/dev/hdaN, as long as partition hdaN is marked
> active. This setup is required for OS/2 Boot Manager, etc; I can't

Thank you.  10.01% now.

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Re: [Q] Best Strategy to install Debian 1.3 using a PCMCIA CDROM?

[Sudhakar Chandrasekharan]

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> On Jun 23, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote
> > Sudhakar
> > PS: Does my digital signature attachment bother folks reading this list.
> 
> Mutt doesn't know about this content-type, so I don't see it.


I shall not use these huge digital signatures that might annoy people.
I shall not use these huge digital signatures that might annoy people.
I shall not use these huge digital signatures that might annoy people.
I shall not use these huge digital signatures that might annoy people.
I shall not use these huge digital signatures that might annoy people.
I shall not use these huge digi


Sudhakar
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Re: Debian 1.3: Boot on ThinkPad 760EL

[Stephen Zander]

Martin Fehlaber wrote:
> As I have read in Deja News others have (had?) the same problem I do.
> The new Rescue Disk does not work on my (new as well) ThinkPad. Other
> distrubutions do not seem to have this problem. Am I missing something
> obvious? Is there a solution I am not aware of?

This suprises me as I have a IBM TP 760CD & the installation disks
worked just fine (X is a diffiernet story but...)

Could you give more detailed information on what happens?


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Re: First impressions on installing Debian 1.3 (and an idea!)

[jdassen]

On Jun 24, Peter S Galbraith wrote
> Another question:  There are many upgrades to make to use a 2.1.X kernels.
> Are there Debian packages to do these upgrades?  (I have an IDE/ATAPI
> PD-CD; I need 2.1.X if I ever want to see the PD side working.) --

The 2.1.X kernels come with a list (Documentation/Upgrading.txt ?) of
packages to upgrade in order to build/run them. I've recently checked that
list and found all of those packages already installed in my system (I use
the "unstable" distribution and update daily). There is no official policy
requirement for developers to support upgrades for use of development
kernels, but the "unstable" stuff (and project/experimental) tends to be on
the bleeding edge.

HTH,
Ray
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Re: Best e-mail approach for discon. sites

[Kai Grossjohann]

> George Bonser writes:

  George> ...and they are fetched individually.

> jghasler  writes:

  John> You can put all the mail for each branch office in one
  John> mailbox.  Fetchmail can sort them out.

How does fetchmail deal with mailing lists?  I'd imagine that all that
fetchmail can do is look at the To and Cc headers which aren't very
useful for mailing lists.

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Re: lockd for debian ?

[jdassen]

On Jun 24, Markus Diesmann wrote
> I need to export a mail directory from a Debian system to SGI and SUN
> machines.   A few applications expect a lock daemon lockd on the exporting
> system. I seems that there is no such daemon for debian,
> 
> We found an old Linux version 0.4 '95 from Olaf Kirch, but it does not
> seem to work reliable.

Olaf is working on a new kernel-based implementation of some of the NFS
stuff; the package "knfs" in project/experimental has it. I think it
requires 2.1.recent .

If you have the source, you could also recompile the SGI and SUN
applications to use "dotlocking" (the Debian locking mechanism per the
policy manual).

HTH,
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1.3 disks to install 1.2?

[Bob Billson]

Tomorrow, I am going to be helping one of my brothers install Debian on
his machine.  He has the last Cheap Bytes 1.2.x CD-ROM.  I have the Debian
installation disk images for 1.3.0.  Is there a good reason why we
shouldn't use this set to install 1.2?  Are we asking for headaches and
should stick with the 1.2 set?

Thanks.  By tomorrow afternoon, we should have another [Debian] Linux
convert. :)

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Dat vs. Travan

[Behan Webster]

We're just looking at buying some tape backup drives for our servers.

I've used DAT's before, but now there's Travan too.

Can anyone explain the pros and cons of DAT versus Travan tape drives?

Thanks,

Behan

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help with dselect again plz

[Peter . Yarych . gandolph]

Do you want to install the files fetched [y]: 
Installing files...
(Reading database ... dpkg: error processing debian/stable/binary-i386/x11/float
bg_1.0-6.deb (--install):
 files list file for package `mgetty-fax' contains empty filename
Errors were encountered while processing:
 debian/stable/binary-i386/x11/floatbg_1.0-6.deb
Processing was halted because there were too many errors.
DPKG ERROR

I'm not even sure what file I need to edit.
Any and All help is welcome

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Re: XEMACS Install problem !!!!!! + w3-el stufff .........

[Eddie Katz]

On 25-Jun-97 Dale Scheetz wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Jun 1997, Eddie Katz wrote:
>
>> Got everything required for XEMACS installation, except that I am not
>finding an
>> ywhere the libpng1 package, and am getting dependency failure because of
>that. T
>> he only libpng that is up there is libpng0-96 something. 
>> 
>> 
>> Any ideas ?
>> 
>When working with a Debian distribution, it is always valuable to collect
>the Contents file from the archive. This file lists every program and
>library, man page and info file, config files...anything that is in one of
>the packages in the distribution. Beside each entry is the name of the
>package that contains that entry. Searching the Contents file for libpng1
>indicates that the development package for this library is in the graphics
>section, while the shared libs are found in libs/libpng1 (right where you
>might expect). More precisely stable/binary-i386/libs/libpng1_0.89c-6.deb.
>

Thanks a lot dale, Few minutes after I send my E-Mail I found the package by mys
elf. Anyhow another problem with XEMACS is bothering me:

the "w3-el" package available is dependent on EMACS and not on XEMACS is there a
 w3-el available for XEMACS anywhere ??




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Re: focus on afterstep?

[Ben Gertzfield]

> "dpk" == dpk  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

dpk> I just set up afterstep on my machine, and I am *really*
dpk> impressed with it.  I have now decided to switch to it from
dpk> fvwm2.  However, I want to get rid of ClickToFocus, however
dpk> the following lines in my .steprc do not change it when I
dpk> restart.  

dpk> # Change 1 to 0 in order to get the "normal" ClickToFocus
dpk> effect ClickToFocus 0

Just delete the line completely or comment it out.

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Debian Documentation (was: Debian Books and First Comments....)

[Will Lowe]

Maybe what we really need is a system by which we update the FAQs and 
HOWTOs coming out of the Linux Documentation Project in Debian-Relevant 
ways ... a small-scale Debian Documentation Project rather than whole 
books.  Heck,  we could even publish a  booklet/pamphlet (I'm 
talking 20 pages here,  available in Postscript or from the Debian 
Project office for $2 plus shipping) explaining the difference between 
Debian and Slack/Redhat/Caldera (and how to install debian).
I like the FAQs.  They're usually more current than any book. 
It's just tough sometimes because Debian doesn't present software as "pppd
version 2.3.41.2.3" but as "ppp-2.3.4.deb", and often the FAQ associated
with it contains information that's relevent not only to the .deb package
I've downloaded, but stuff that USED to be relevent for every other
release of the same software, and is now obselete. 

To me,  it's kinda fun to hack around and figure out exactly 
what's going on.  But for debian to get far with those of us who aren't 
full-time computer nuts,  we'll have to make things even more simple than 
they already are.

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Re: Prob Removing Latex pkg

[Christoph Martin]

Christian Meder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
> On Jun 24, Mark Mabry wrote
> > 
> > I've been upgrading to Debian 1.3 w/o problems except for the tetex
> > upgrade.  I've followed the instructions that tell me to first remove
> > the tex packages and install the tetex ones.  However, there is a
> > problem when I try to remove the latex package.  Apparently the
> > latex.prerm script calls install-fmt-base.  Well, I don't have or at
> > least cannot locate install-fmt-base.  (*I believe that is the exact
> > name.  I'm writing this from memory while at work.)  Does anyone know
> > a work-around/fix for this?
> > 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> ugly fix. Edit the prerm script and comment out the offending lines so
> that it won't complain anymore.
> 

even simpler fix: create install-fmt-base as a script which just does
nothing.

cat > /usr/sbin/install-fmt-base
#!/bin/sh
^D
chmod +x /usr/sbin/install-fmt-base

dpkg --purge latex ...

rm /usr/sbin/install-fmt-base

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Re: XEMACS Install problem !!!!!!

[Dale Scheetz]

On Wed, 25 Jun 1997, Eddie Katz wrote:

> Got everything required for XEMACS installation, except that I am not finding 
> an
> ywhere the libpng1 package, and am getting dependency failure because of 
> that. T
> he only libpng that is up there is libpng0-96 something. 
> 
> 
> Any ideas ?
> 
When working with a Debian distribution, it is always valuable to collect
the Contents file from the archive. This file lists every program and
library, man page and info file, config files...anything that is in one of
the packages in the distribution. Beside each entry is the name of the
package that contains that entry. Searching the Contents file for libpng1
indicates that the development package for this library is in the graphics
section, while the shared libs are found in libs/libpng1 (right where you
might expect). More precisely stable/binary-i386/libs/libpng1_0.89c-6.deb.

Luck,

Dwarf
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Re: Problem upgrating from Debian1.2 to Debian-1.3

[Dale Scheetz]

On Wed, 25 Jun 1997, Vladimir Kolobov wrote:

> > Hi
> > 
> > we tried to upgrate from Debian-1.2 to Debian-1.3
> > following the directions given in Debian home page.
> > 
> > There was a problem:
> > 
> > > dpkg -i ldso_1.9.2-3.deb
> > 
> > (Reading database ... 20479 files and directories currently installed.)
> > Preparing to replace ldso 1.8.10-2 (using ldso_1.9.2-3.deb) ...
> > /var/lib/dpkg/info/ldso.prerm: /usr/sbin/install-info: No such file or
> > directory
> > dpkg: warning - old pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
> > dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...
> > /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/prerm: /usr/sbin/install-info: No such file or
> > directory
> > dpkg: error processing ldso_1.9.2-3.deb (--install):
> >  subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
> > Errors were encountered while processing:
> >  ldso_1.9.2-3.deb
> > 
It seems that /usr/sbin/intall-info is missing. This program is provided
in the dpkg package, so it should be there. Maybe someone removed it by
mistake. Try re-installing dpkg_1.4.0.7.deb again. With the apparent state
of the system, you would do well to run 'dpkg --clear-avail' before
continuing the upgrade. (if you haven't already) This should allow ldso
and libc5 to install. Then upgrade dpkg and go for a dselect installation.
If you want to install tetex in place of current latex packages, the
texbin package will need to be removed before the dselect installation
begins.

Hope this helps,

Dwarf
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Re: Books on Debian

[Chad D. Zimmerman]

Almost sorta supprised that noone has mentioned the DBP (Debian Book
Project) that I had started a few months back.  URL is in sig.  

Mainly I started it for 2 main reasons, which are:

1) Publicity - I have seen about 12 books on linux (have 4 of them) they
cover SlackWare and RedHat, well the new "Unleashing Linux" has a small
section on Caldera's OpenLinux Lite.  But for the most part it is only
about those two.  I found Debian myself by accident, otherwise I would be
running RedHAd since that was the only dist. I had .. other than Slack
which I had used before and disliked.

It is known that Debian is mainly popular by word of mouth advertising.
Most the people that do a first time instalation will go and buy a book on
it, they have two choices; Slackware or RedHat .. I want to give them a
third choice on the shelf: Debian

2) Documentation - I am one of them that "Old fashioned peopele" I liike
to read printed materal rather than on a computer screen ... don't want to
get any more blind ;)

Personally, I would like to have everything I need printed together is an
ordered, human readable format (Some of the howto's and man pages take 10
to 15 readings just to know what on earth they are doing).  

Mainly a book would be geared to the first time / begining debian user.
People just feel more comfortable having a refernce book they can always
refer back to.  There are quite a few debian centered changes to this
version of Linux; the main one being the install. 6 disks vs 30 or so ...


Well, this is all from this jabber mouth .. I have webmaster type job
thing to get back to now.

Chad

P.S. I am on IRC is anyone wants to talk to me .. either on an undernet
server or the linpeople.org server in the channel #Debian  .. I go by
WildOne- there.


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Re: color_xterm and xfm, where are they?

[Mike Schmitz]

On Jun 25, Frank Barknecht wrote
> Emilio Lopes hat gesagt: // Emilio Lopes wrote: ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> > > "AR" == Alberto Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > AR> I installed fvwm95 and the default settings have a color_xterm and
> > AR> xfm icons.  I looked in all the debian packages but I could not
> > AR> find them.  Can some tell where I can find color_xterm and xfm? Or
> > AR> Is there a better substitute for those programs?  I also noticed
> > 
> > The plain normal xterm can do colors. Just put the follwoing in your
> > ~/.Xresources:
> > 
> > #ifdef COLOR
> > *customization: -color
> > #endif
> > 
> > Do a "xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources"  and start a fresh xterm.
> 
> Well, I also have a problem with colors in  "xterm"s.
> I get a colored "ls" with .Xresorces set up like you say, 
> but how can other programms display their colorings in xterm.
> 
> For example: I am using mutt for my e-mail.
> It is configured to colorize cites, WWW-URLs and Mail adresses,
> but this only works in a linux-console.
> 
> And how do I get colors in lynx?
> 

I use rxvt to display mutt & lynx. It gets the colors right without all the
hassle. It also doesn't have the problem with termcap.


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focus on afterstep?

[dpk]

I just set up afterstep on my machine, and I am *really* impressed with
it.  I have now decided to switch to it from fvwm2.  However, I want to
get rid of ClickToFocus, however the following lines in my .steprc do not
change it when I restart.  From the documentation and the explanation
below this will only change whether or not the click should be passed to
the appliation:

# Raise the Window when it is clicked on, but do not pass the click
# on to the application ... very handy for text editors
# Change 1 to 0 in order to get the "normal" ClickToFocus effect
ClickToFocus 0

Since it is based on fvwm and twm, I would think this option is available,
I just can't seem to find it, and having to click on a window will drive
me nuts since I'm so use to not having to in fvwm2.   I don't want to go
back because I really like afterstep.  Thanks in advance to those who can
help.

Dennis


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XEMACS Install problem !!!!!!

[Eddie Katz]

Got everything required for XEMACS installation, except that I am not finding an
ywhere the libpng1 package, and am getting dependency failure because of that. T
he only libpng that is up there is libpng0-96 something. 


Any ideas ?



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Problem upgrating from Debian1.2 to Debian-1.3

[Vladimir Kolobov]

> Hi
> 
> we tried to upgrate from Debian-1.2 to Debian-1.3
> following the directions given in Debian home page.
> 
> There was a problem:
> 
> > dpkg -i ldso_1.9.2-3.deb
> 
> (Reading database ... 20479 files and directories currently installed.)
> Preparing to replace ldso 1.8.10-2 (using ldso_1.9.2-3.deb) ...
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/ldso.prerm: /usr/sbin/install-info: No such file or
> directory
> dpkg: warning - old pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
> dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...
> /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/prerm: /usr/sbin/install-info: No such file or
> directory
> dpkg: error processing ldso_1.9.2-3.deb (--install):
>  subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  ldso_1.9.2-3.deb
> 
> 
> What to do?
> 
> Thanks

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Re: [Q] Best Strategy to install Debian 1.3 using a PCMCIA CDROM?

[jdassen]

On Jun 23, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote
> Sudhakar
> PS: Does my digital signature attachment bother folks reading this list.

Mutt doesn't know about this content-type, so I don't see it.

On Jun 24, Emilio Lopes wrote
> It's just that sometimes there is more signature than message. Pretty
> annoying, IMO.

I checked out the attachment, and it is indeed rather big. I'd recommend
using PGP/MIME (RFC2015, http://www.c2.org/~raph/pgpmime.html>) or
plain old PGP signatures; this is more compact, and probably more people
actually use it (e.g. at least three MUAs in Debian support it (mutt,
elm-me+, exmh), while I know of none that processes your format).

Ray

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Re: weird routing problems.

[Shaya Potter]

I don't know what happened, but everything works now, my network.bak
script (the original one) works perfectly, and the modified version
doesn't work.  well, since everythings working fine right now (crossed
fingers), hopefully it will stay that way.

On Wed, 25 Jun 1997, Heiko Schlittermann wrote:

> On Jun 24, Shaya Potter wrote
> : 
> : I somehow did something that affects route.  I have the simple settings
> : that the debian installer automatically sets up in my /etc/init.d/network
> : file.
> : 
> : This ifconfig's the eth0 interface appropriatly, set's up the network, but
> : when it tries to set the default route, I get.
> : 
> : chum# route add default gw 132.250.89.81
> : route: eth0_broadcast: cannot use a NETWORK as gateway!
> : Usage: route [-nNvee] [-FC] [Address_families]  List kernel routing tables
> :route {-V|--version}  Display command version and
> : exit.
> :route {-h|--help} [Address_family]Usage Syntax for specified
> : AF.
> :route [-v] [-FC] {add|del|flush} ...  Modify routing table for AF.
> : 
> :   Address_families: inet,ddp,ipx,netrom,ax25
> : specify AF: -A af1,af2..  or  --af1 --af2  or  af_route
> 
> What's your netmask?  (As configured on the interface.)

It's 255.255.255.192

> : 
> : however, if I replace the "132.250.89.81" with "pacfw" (what /etc/hosts
> : says is 132.250.89.81), everything works.
> 
> Weired, indeed.
> 

thanks for the offer of help.

Shaya


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Solved! Re: Quotas & AMD

[Adriano Nagelschmidt Rodrigues]

Just FYI:

Felix Almeida writes:
 >   I'm using the AMD to mount the home directories by NFS on the clients.
 > I've read all of documents related to quotas, but with no success...

The problem was in the way I built the amd map for poor Felix's network ;-) 

The home server has two file systems under /home, u1 & u2. The quota files are
in the fs root directories (ie /home/u1, /home/u2). The amd map only told the
clients to mount /home. I had a feeling that it might be the source of the
problem, and today I changed the map so that the clients would mount /home/u1
& /home/u2 also, and voila'...

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Re: RFC: Prospective Kernel-Compiling mini-HOWTO (fwd)

[branden]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

Buddha Buck gave me permission to repost this private mail.  He makes a
lot of incisive points.  While I don't know what non-Debian users are
going to do, it appears that I may need to give kernel-pkg another shot.

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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 22:34:32 -0400
From: Buddha Buck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RFC: Prospective Kernel-Compiling mini-HOWTO 

> Hello,
> 
> This file has been posted to this forum a few times before in earlier
> versions.  I would very much appreciate feedback on it.  If enough people
> think it's a good idea, I will attempt to contribute it to the LDP.

This may seem like an odd question at this point, but have you read the 
Kernel HOWTO that is already part of the LDP?  On my Debian system, it 
is available in /usr/doc/HOWTO/Kernel-HOWTO.gz.  It already does a 
decent job of explaining how to compile and configure your own kernel, 
but it isn't Debian specific.

> 
> --BEGIN--
> Kernel Compiling for Dummies
> By Branden Robinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> Version 1.3, Jun 16 1997, 5393 bytes
> 
> For Debian users, the "kernel-package" package is supposed to do these
> things for you, but I have had rough going with it, especially in the
> modules department. The following steps have worked for me on multiple
> machines, with various kinds of hardware and booting methods (floppy,
> loadlin, lilo). It makes a number of assumptions (i386 architecture,
> use of loadable modules, installing a complete set of new kernel sources,
> and not a patch, etc.). If anything looks inappropriate for
> your setup, make backups and go with your instincts. Always, always,
> always make sure you keep a known good booting kernel around on floppy
> disk to save your bacon. It also makes sense to compile-in, rather than
> modularize, things that are crucial to your system's operation. This
> always includes the binary format you use, ELF or a.out, and I think
> (can someone clarify?) it also includes the filesystem type of the root
> disk, often ext2fs (a.k.a. e2fs); 

ELF runtime must be compiled in on 2.0 and higher kernels, since the 
kernel itself -must- be compiled as ELF, not a.out.  Having a.out as a 
module works fine.

The root filesystem type -must- also be compiled in and not 
modularized.  Otherwise, the kernel can't find the module to load to be 
able to find the module to load...

Now onto the document itself.  For the record, I typically use the 
following for compiling my own kernels:

1) mkdir /var/tmp/linux
2) cp linux-*.tar.gz /var/tmp/linux
3) cd /var/tmp/linux
4) tar zxvf linux-*.tar.gz
5) cd linux
6) make xconfig
7) make-kpkg clean
8) make-kpkg -r=custom.1.0 kernel_image kernel_source
9) dpkg -i ../kernel*.deb
10) init 6

> *) if upgrading and if possible, preserve your old kernel sources
>(if your /usr/src/linux is a symlink to the old sources, remove the
>link *before* extracting the tar file to /usr/src, otherwise just
>rename /usr/src/linux)
> 
> // if installing a Debian kernel-source package, do that (dpkg -i
> // kernel-source-x.y.zz_x.y.zz.deb) instead of the next five steps
> 
> *) copy .tgz source file to /usr/src
> *) cd /usr/src
> *) tar xfz (or tar xfvz) source file (it sticks itself in /usr/src/linux)
> *) mv linux kernel-source-x.y.zz
> *) ln -s kernel-source-x.y.zz linux

Since the later 1.3 kernels, the kernel source doesn't have to be in 
/usr/src/linux.  In fact, I prefer to keep /usr/src/linux for my 
currently-installed kernel.  When I build a new kernel, I usually build 
it under /var/tmp/linux/linux  (the use of .../linux/linux allows the 
tar.gz file and the debian packages to be in /var/tmp/linux, where they 
can be cleaned out easily, without disturbing the kernel sources 
themselves).

Similarly...
> 
> // if you want to preserve the asm, linux, and scsi libraries that shipped
> // with your libc, simply mv them before doing the symlink manipulations
> // below
> 
> *) if necessary, cd /usr/include; ln -s asm-i386 asm
> *) if necessary, cd /usr/include; ln -s ../src/linux/include/asm-i386
>asm-i386
> *) if necessary, cd /usr/include; ln -s ../src/linux/include/linux linux
> *) if necessary, cd /usr/include; ln -s ../src/linux/include/scsi scsi

- -Do NOT DO THIS-.  The kernel build doesn't use anything special in 
/usr/include (it has it's own copy of any necessary headers), and the 
links from /usr/include to /usr/src/linux/include are not recommended 
by Debian, by the kernel developers (including Linus himself), and will 
do the decidedly wrong thing under glibc (the GNU Libc provides its own 
headers for /usr/include/linux, etc, and allows for the user-library 
interface to be different from the library-kernel interface.  Compiling 
with the kernel headers themselves could cause your program to be 
incompatible with libc.)  Don't touch anything un

Re: color_xterm and xfm, where are they?

[Frank Barknecht]

Emilio Lopes hat gesagt: // Emilio Lopes wrote: ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> > "AR" == Alberto Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> AR> I installed fvwm95 and the default settings have a color_xterm and
> AR> xfm icons.  I looked in all the debian packages but I could not
> AR> find them.  Can some tell where I can find color_xterm and xfm? Or
> AR> Is there a better substitute for those programs?  I also noticed
> 
> The plain normal xterm can do colors. Just put the follwoing in your
> ~/.Xresources:
> 
> #ifdef COLOR
> *customization: -color
> #endif
> 
> Do a "xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources"  and start a fresh xterm.

Well, I also have a problem with colors in  "xterm"s.
I get a colored "ls" with .Xresorces set up like you say, 
but how can other programms display their colorings in xterm.

For example: I am using mutt for my e-mail.
It is configured to colorize cites, WWW-URLs and Mail adresses,
but this only works in a linux-console.

And how do I get colors in lynx?


Yours,

Frank 



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Re: Window Manager Problem

[Shaya Potter]

This is just a guess, but are you running debian 1.2?  

look in your /etc/ld.so.conf, check if there is a line in it, such as

/usr/X11R6/lib

this tells the dynamic linker to look in that directory for shared libs,
i.e the xpm library you need.

Shaya

On Wed, 25 Jun 1997, Johnny Stevenson wrote:

> Please can you help:
> 
> I have a problem with the fvwm window manager, it cannot load
> libXpm.so.4.
> 
> When I run startx, X starts and displays the grey screen, then drops
> back down to the terminal.
> 
> I then tried running fvwm from the terminal and got an error:
> 
> fvwm: couldnt load libXpm.so.4
> 
> I checked and the xpm4.7 package is installed, reinstalled it anyway,
> then reinstalled the fvwm packages and still got the same answer.
> 
> Unless anyone has any suggestions I feel that it must be a problem with
> the hard drive somewhere.  So if I dont hear anything in the next week I
> will reformat and see if that fixes it.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help or advice.
> --
> 
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>   ** Staff/Student Representative **
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Window Manager Problem

[Johnny Stevenson]

Please can you help:

I have a problem with the fvwm window manager, it cannot load
libXpm.so.4.

When I run startx, X starts and displays the grey screen, then drops
back down to the terminal.

I then tried running fvwm from the terminal and got an error:

fvwm: couldnt load libXpm.so.4

I checked and the xpm4.7 package is installed, reinstalled it anyway,
then reinstalled the fvwm packages and still got the same answer.

Unless anyone has any suggestions I feel that it must be a problem with
the hard drive somewhere.  So if I dont hear anything in the next week I
will reformat and see if that fixes it.

Thanks in advance for any help or advice.
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Re: Pascal Compiler

[Alair Pereira do Lago]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I recently attempted to compile a simple Pascal program to make sure
> gpc is working. I was surprised to get the error:
> 
>   ld: cannot open -lgpc: No such file or directory
> 
> I thought I might have missed installing  the libraries so I reinstalled
> gpc and the library from dselect. I assume I got all the packages since
> I fixed the dependency problems which popped up when I selected gpc. After
> installing everything, the same error popped up, how do I get ld to find
> the Pascal library?

'dpkg --status gpc' shows:

Version: 2.0-3
Depends: libc5, gcc (>= 2.7.2.1-2), gcc (<< 2.7.2.2), libgpc2

'dpkg --listfiles libgpc2' shows

/usr/lib/libgpc.so.2.8
/usr/lib/libgpc.so.2

You should have libgpc2 package installed.

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Re: Where is libc6 ????????

[joost witteveen]

> 
> /hamm/hamm/binary/base
> 
> I hope the 'new' menu package came from hamm if it requires libc6.

Yes, it's in unstable.

> 
> On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Eddie Katz wrote:
> 
> >  Hi,
> > 
> > I am trying to find the LIBC6 package but with no luck. The new "menu" 
> > package r
> > equires it and I cannot find it anywhere.

Note that you'll also need libg++272, even though menu doesn't
actually "depends: " on it. That's a bug in libg++272, that nobody
before noticed.

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Re: menu package

[joost witteveen]

> Hi,
> 
> I just did an upgrade from menu version 1.3-2 to 1.4-1 and I noticed that
> the program "update-menus" provided by the new package segmentation faults
> when the pre-removal and post-removal scripts execute it. This effects
> packages such as procps and xproc. Anyone seen this? Thanks...

No, I haven't (I'm the author).

Is it really update-menus that segfaults, or the install-menu
programme? (usually you cansee this from the output, or when it
crashes -- what's the output for you?).

If you're sure it's update-menus, could you do:


tar -czf - /etc/menu /usr/lib/menu|uuencode menu.tgz|mail -s "menufiles" [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]


I'm rather convinced it's something to do with one of the menufiles you
have, and the above way is about the only to find out what.

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Re: Quick question on /etc/modules

[Philippe Troin]

On Wed, 25 Jun 1997 09:31:39 BST "G. Kapetanios" ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 wrote:

> I accidentally  sent a job to the print queue while the lpd daemon was
> running . I have no printer and no printer support in my kernel . Now I
> get  a message from modprobe about the module char-major-6 not being
> found. This fills up my log files. I probably have to stop kerneld and put
> a line in /etc/modules ( I have seen that on the list sometime ).
> Unfortunatyely I dont know the syntax ( something about alias module ) and
> can't find the relevant docs. 

You want "alias char-major-6 off".
But it might be better to remove all the printer definitions in /etc/printcap 
(or better, to remove the lpr package).
In the meantime you can "lprm" too...

Phil.



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Re: Mail Archives Stopped?

[jdassen]

On Jun 20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
> David R Baker wrote:
> > I am a relatively new subscriber to this list.  For the 1st week or two
> > it appeared to be archived once a day.  It has now been more than a week
> > since the archives accessible through www.debian.org have been updated.
> > Is something wrong or is this normal?
> 
> The problem is that www.debian.org hasn't updated its mirror in about a week.
> I have already sent mail to the administrator. In the meantime, check
> some of the other mirrors shown on www.debian.org. I know the mirrors in
> Germany, Japan and the Netherlands(New!) are up to date.

Sue's answer is the explanation in most cases, but it doesn't apply in this
case.

On Jun 24, David R Baker wrote
> It is a couple of days since my last message, I just looked at mail
> archives on www.debian.org and they are still only through June 11.  I
> this is a nuisance, say so and I will cheerfully stop.

I've checked the archive on cgi.debian.org (master) to make sure it's not a
mirroring problem. Indeed, there are no messages after June 11. 

The mailing lists archives are handled by Guy Maor (I think through a
procmail/MHonArc setup on his master account). Guy is unfortunately away
until mid-July.

Ray
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Quick question on /etc/modules

[G. Kapetanios]

Hi,


I accidentally  sent a job to the print queue while the lpd daemon was
running . I have no printer and no printer support in my kernel . Now I
get  a message from modprobe about the module char-major-6 not being
found. This fills up my log files. I probably have to stop kerneld and put
a line in /etc/modules ( I have seen that on the list sometime ).
Unfortunatyely I dont know the syntax ( something about alias module ) and
can't find the relevant docs. 
Can anyone help ?? Thanks very much
 
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Re: First impressions on installing Debian 1.3 (and an idea!)

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Tue, Jun 24, 1997 at 03:23:53PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The only Kernel that would *have* to have Java support compiled in would
> be the one on the rescue disks.  The system could install a different kernel
> that would not have JAVA support.

Java support in the Linux kernel doesn't run Java binaries itself,
it just knows to start up the JDK java interpreter (/usr/bin/java
or whatever) if you run a Java binary. Something like perl
is just as platform-inspecific mostly.


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Re: RFC: Prospective Kernel-Compiling mini-HOWTO

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Tue, Jun 24, 1997 at 01:56:23PM -0500, Pete Harlan wrote:
> >   boot=/dev/hda3
> 
> This should read
> 
>   boot=/dev/hda
> 
> no?  Debian's installation gets this wrong, listing the boot device as
> a partition on the disk, when you're supposed to use the whole disk.
> This has caused problems for me, until I noticed it and changed it
> back to /dev/hda.
> 
> Perhaps I'm wrong,

It's fine to set boot=/dev/hdaN, as long as partition hdaN is marked
active. This setup is required for OS/2 Boot Manager, etc; I can't
see an advantage in writing to the MBR (/dev/hda) rather than
the partition itself. LILO will disappear during Windows95 installation
if written to the MBR; only the active partition will be changed
if it's in the boot sector (hdaN), and you can get it back
with just Windows fdisk.


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.csh_alias - Re: What good is the default .alias file?

[Dave Cinege]

On Tue, 24 Jun 1997 22:23:31 -0500 (CDT), Nathan E Norman wrote:

>:>It is good because it contains csh/tcsh aliases, not bash aliases.  A
>:>slightly different beast.
>:
>:Ah.
>:Next question.why is it not named .csh_alias  ?
>
>Well, most likely because the C Shell was the first to support aliases.
>At that time the bourne shell didn't support much in the way of the
>features we're used to now.  So, the logical decision was to name the
>file .alias, since it would be such a great feature that noone would
>ever have to design or use another shell ...

  : P

Well I'd like to put a vote in to rename it .csh_alias in the future. Seems 
like good practice to me, and I will be changing it on my system.
I also plan to make up a .bash_alias file, and put a little for loop in 
.bash_profile to execute it.

I'm a firm believer in providing some (easily commented out) features with 
the generic user account. My new users get treated to a nice color prompt,
color enabled ls alias (as well as others), and a simple test webpage.

If they don't like it, let them put a few hash marks in their profile, and 
rm thier html dir. It's easier then staring at a '$' for hours on end 
wondering what to do next. Been there when I was a DOS monkey. Didn't like 
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Pascal Compiler

[krow0612]

I recently attempted to compile a simple Pascal program to make sure
gpc is working. I was surprised to get the error:

ld: cannot open -lgpc: No such file or directory

I thought I might have missed installing  the libraries so I reinstalled
gpc and the library from dselect. I assume I got all the packages since
I fixed the dependency problems which popped up when I selected gpc. After
installing everything, the same error popped up, how do I get ld to find
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Re: innxmit for Debian Gnu/Linux?

[Erv Walter]

Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Question:  in the Suck manpage, reference is made to using "innxmit"
> to pass transferred articles to innd.

> However, innxmit doesn't exist on my Debian 1.2 box, whereis reports
> only a man page, and a search on www.debian.org indicates that there's
> no innxmit package.

try /usr/lib/news/bin/innxmit.  That's where it is in my hamm box.  

Suck works quite well with inn on my machine.

In general, when looking for files, try locate instead of whereis.  I
believe whereis only searches the path (could be wrong).

For files installed from a adebian packages check
/var/lib/dpkg/info/packagename.list for a list of everything installed
by packagename (and the full path)

Good Luck,
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Re: weird routing problems.

[Heiko Schlittermann]

On Jun 24, Shaya Potter wrote
: 
: I somehow did something that affects route.  I have the simple settings
: that the debian installer automatically sets up in my /etc/init.d/network
: file.
: 
: This ifconfig's the eth0 interface appropriatly, set's up the network, but
: when it tries to set the default route, I get.
: 
: chum# route add default gw 132.250.89.81
: route: eth0_broadcast: cannot use a NETWORK as gateway!
: Usage: route [-nNvee] [-FC] [Address_families]  List kernel routing tables
:route {-V|--version}  Display command version and
: exit.
:route {-h|--help} [Address_family]Usage Syntax for specified
: AF.
:route [-v] [-FC] {add|del|flush} ...  Modify routing table for AF.
: 
:   Address_families: inet,ddp,ipx,netrom,ax25
: specify AF: -A af1,af2..  or  --af1 --af2  or  af_route

What's your netmask?  (As configured on the interface.)
: 
: however, if I replace the "132.250.89.81" with "pacfw" (what /etc/hosts
: says is 132.250.89.81), everything works.

Weired, indeed.



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Re: enable 16bit and 24bit

[Brandon Mitchell]

On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, David Puryear wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Is it possible to enable different depth for different resolutions? What I
> would like to be able to do is:
> 
> 8bit for 1024x768 and 320x240
>16bit for 800x600
>24bit for 640x480
> 
> This way I can do Ctrl-Alt + or - to change depth. I have 1 meg on video card.

AFAIK, no.  It probably has to deal with how screen info is stored on your
video card.  I'm pretty sure it also has to deal with telling your
programs how many colors it has.  When you change resolution, apps, window
managers, etc, aren't effected, the screen just scrolls to handle the
new resolution.

The solution is to start your X session differently.  I currently have an
alias set up to do:
xinit -- -bpp 16 :1
starting a 16 bit session on the second X screen thingy (sorry, forgot the
technical term :-)  

Maybe the X people could work on better interaction between programs and
the X server to add this later.

HTH,
Brandon

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Re: What good is the default .alias file?

[Nathan E Norman]

On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Dave Cinege wrote:

:On Tue, 24 Jun 1997 12:05:25 -0400 (EDT), Scott K. Ellis wrote:
:
:>On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Dave Cinege wrote:
:>
:>> What good is the default .alias file in /etc/skel?
:>>
:>> It by default isn't, and I can see my way to execute the damn thing.
:>> If it was in the format:
:>>
:>> alias lsa="ls -a"
:>>
:>> it would be useful. How is this any good?
:>>
:>> alias   a   alias
:>> alias   loada   'source ~/.alias'
:>> alias   loadalias   loada
:>> alias   log watchlog
:>
:>It is good because it contains csh/tcsh aliases, not bash aliases.  A
:>slightly different beast.
:
:Ah.
:Next question.why is it not named .csh_alias  ?

Well, most likely because the C Shell was the first to support aliases.
At that time the bourne shell didn't support much in the way of the
features we're used to now.  So, the logical decision was to name the
file .alias, since it would be such a great feature that noone would
ever have to design or use another shell ...

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innxmit for Debian Gnu/Linux?

[Carl Fink]

Question:  in the Suck manpage, reference is made to using "innxmit"
to pass transferred articles to innd.

However, innxmit doesn't exist on my Debian 1.2 box, whereis reports
only a man page, and a search on www.debian.org indicates that there's
no innxmit package.

A quick archie search shows innxmit existing only in various BSD and
freeBSD distributions.  I have downloaded the c archive from the
yggdrasil mirror on hensa, but I'm no c programmer and there's no
guarantee I'll be able to compile it right.

So:  any plan to create a Debian package of innxmit?  Combining it
with suck sure seems like a great way for a single user to get news.

Or, if not:  any other way to import suck-transferred articles to an
innd newsfeed?  I'm using tinynews now, but it's a bit primitive and
lacks a killfile.

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Re: more on scsi controllers

[Paul Wade]

On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Rick Hawkins wrote:

> > Try making a 1.3 rescue disk and booting it with the fdomain parameters.
> > If you watch the screen (fast) during boot, you should see whether it got
> > the scsi controller OK or not. If that works, then it's just a matter of
> > configuring the kernel and LILO on your system.
> 
> I can't make the floppy at the moment; it seems not to work.  However, I
> now have an appropriate kernel on the machine.  Answering lilo with
> 
> Linux fdomain=0x140,11
> 
> does not result in loading the module.  

This is for passing the parameters to fdomain that is compiled into the
kernel.

> However, 
> 
> insmod fdomain gives me (roughly; from another screen)
> 
> scsi0 : BIOS version 3.4 at 0xc8000 using scsi id 7
> scsi0 : TMC-1830 chip at 0x140 irq 11
> scsi0: Future Domain TMC-16x0 SCSI driver, version 5.44
> scsi : 1 host
>   Vendor NEC   Model:  CD-ROM DRIVE:83  Rev: 1.0
> Type: CD-ROM   ANSI SCSI Revision: 01
> Detected CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, chanel 0, id0, lun0
> 
> is /dev/sr0 the correct device, then?

It's acceptable to my system.

> So I tried ./MAKEDEV sr0, which gave me the device.
> 
> Then 
> 
> bash-2.00# mount /dev/sr0 /cdrom -t iso9660
> mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only

This is the expected behavior.

> which results in the cd making some noise, and the system hang.

This is not.

> a couple of things:  should it be /dev/scd0, or /dev/sdc0?  it seems to
> be scd, but the howto referss consistently to sdc.

/dev/scd0

> is it possible that it simply needs several minute to load?  There's
> another access a couple of minutes later.

Seconds but not minutes.
 
This always works for me:

mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /cdrom

ls -lR /cdrom is a good test

When I get CD errors the messages pop up on whatever virtual console I am
using. Same for the retries. So if the system hangs, I know why.

I think booting from the standard 1.3 kernel will tell us what direction
to go in. If it works, it's only a software problem. If not, then maybe a
bad CD drive. Make sure to try it with more than 1 CD. I have an old
soundblaster 2x that is awfully fussy about the media.

I think the rescue disk kernel will allow you to do something like this:

Boot: Linux fdomain=0x230,11 root=/dev/hda1

in which case you can login and try mounting the CD. You might have to
MAKEDEV scd0 first.

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mpg123

[m*]

hello,

are there any other apps like mpg123 that employ http get
trickery to read mpeg files? 

does anyone have any opinions regarding mpeg decoders or other
audio apps that have provided effective multimedia solutions?

thanks,

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Re: problems with xanim

[Shaya Potter]

On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Walter L. Preuninger II wrote:

> I just tried to play a quicktime movie, and it seg faults. I thought about
> reducing the resolution of my Matrox Mill. 4M from 32 bpp to 24 bpp. When
> I did this, the movie appeared to play, but the image was blured. I to the
> bpp down to 16 and everything is great.
> 
> Is there something else I need to change to get xanim to run at 32 bpp? or
> should I report it to bug-track?
> 

Did you check the options for xanim, there are a bunch of options that can
affect the colormap, check those before you file a bug report, please.

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problems with xanim

[Walter L. Preuninger II]

I just tried to play a quicktime movie, and it seg faults. I thought about
reducing the resolution of my Matrox Mill. 4M from 32 bpp to 24 bpp. When
I did this, the movie appeared to play, but the image was blured. I to the
bpp down to 16 and everything is great.

Is there something else I need to change to get xanim to run at 32 bpp? or
should I report it to bug-track?

Thanks,

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Re: more on scsi controllers

[Rick Hawkins]

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> 
> Try making a 1.3 rescue disk and booting it with the fdomain parameters.
> If you watch the screen (fast) during boot, you should see whether it got
> the scsi controller OK or not. If that works, then it's just a matter of
> configuring the kernel and LILO on your system.

I can't make the floppy at the moment; it seems not to work.  However, I
now have an appropriate kernel on the machine.  Answering lilo with

Linux fdomain=0x140,11

does not result in loading the module.  

However, 

insmod fdomain gives me (roughly; from another screen)

scsi0 : BIOS version 3.4 at 0xc8000 using scsi id 7
scsi0 : TMC-1830 chip at 0x140 irq 11
scsi0: Future Domain TMC-16x0 SCSI driver, version 5.44
scsi : 1 host
  Vendor NEC   Model:  CD-ROM DRIVE:83  Rev: 1.0
Type: CD-ROM   ANSI SCSI Revision: 01
Detected CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, chanel 0, id0, lun0

is /dev/sr0 the correct device, then?

So I tried ./MAKEDEV sr0, which gave me the device.

Then 

bash-2.00# mount /dev/sr0 /cdrom -t iso9660
mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only

which results in the cd making some noise, and the system hang.

a couple of things:  should it be /dev/scd0, or /dev/sdc0?  it seems to
be scd, but the howto referss consistently to sdc.

is it possible that it simply needs several minute to load?  There's
another access a couple of minutes later.

I suppose I'll leave it runnning & see if it comes back by morning.

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Re: more on scsi controllers

[Paul Wade]

Try making a 1.3 rescue disk and booting it with the fdomain parameters.
If you watch the screen (fast) during boot, you should see whether it got
the scsi controller OK or not. If that works, then it's just a matter of
configuring the kernel and LILO on your system.

On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Rick Hawkins wrote:

> > At the boot: prompt type
> > 
> > linux fdomain=0x230,11
> > 
> > If I'm wrong about the 'linux' correct me. I can't reboot right now to
> > verify that.
> 
> OK, i sort of seem to be there.  I compiled the fdomain module (among
> others).  The autoprobe doesn't work:
> 
> modprobe fdomain=0x140,11
> 
> yields no response.
> 
> insmod fdomain 0x140,11
> 
> happily returns.
> 
> But then 
> 
> mount /dev/scd0 /cdrom/
> 
> hung the system.  no mouse, no kb, no three-fingered salute, no telnet,
> no nothin' . . . :(

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Re: more on scsi controllers

[Carl Fink]

Rick Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>After the hints so far, it's clear that eata 's error messages have to
>do with using the same adresses as the second ide card (which is
>installed).

I'm new to Linux, but I've been working on computers for years, so let
me ask a question that's naive, yet (I hope) insightful :-) :

Wouldn't an "EATA" driver be for "Extended ATA", that is, EIDE?  It
doesn't seem to have much to do with SCSI.

So yes, try removing it.



Also:

>I'm also beginning to suspect my floppy has gone bad; i can't mount
>it, and when i last tired to boot, it didn't quite find it.  It
>doesn't even spin/groan when i try to moutn.  There's another 5.25
>drive, but this thing's bios won't boot off b:, and i don't have any
>of those old things around, anyway :(

On standard PCs, the A: or B: status of a disk is determined by
whether it's before or after the twist in the controller cable.  Just
switch your other drive to the opposite position on the cable.

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Re: more on scsi controllers

[Rick Hawkins]

> 
> At the boot: prompt type
> 
> linux fdomain=0x230,11
> 
> If I'm wrong about the 'linux' correct me. I can't reboot right now to
> verify that.

OK, i sort of seem to be there.  I compiled the fdomain module (among
others).  The autoprobe doesn't work:

modprobe fdomain=0x140,11

yields no response.

insmod fdomain 0x140,11

happily returns.

But then 

mount /dev/scd0 /cdrom/

hung the system.  no mouse, no kb, no three-fingered salute, no telnet,
no nothin' . . . :(

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Appletalk Won't Start

[Chris Harris]

I'm running Debian 1.3/i386 here with a 2.0.27 kernel that I compiled
myself from the 2.0.27 kernel source package.  Our network card driver is
loaded, during boot time, as a module that was compiled seperately from
the 2.0.27 kernel source.  (The 2.0.27 kernel doesn't contain a version of
the driver that is new enough to support our network card.)  In this
kernel, appletalk is loaded as a module; the module is automatically
loaded on boot, and I can "see" it with "lsmod".  I've enabled the
net-pf-5 alias in /etc/conf.modules, as was suggested for someone else's
appletalk problem, and that had no effect on my problem.

My problem is that, although all my TCP/IP networking stuff is working
fine, I can't get anything appletalk-ish to work.  atalkd won't start; it
gives the message "AppleTalk not up!  Child exited with 1".  However, I
think, though am not sure, that the problem may lie outside of atalkd,
perhaps with the kernel, or perhaps with some standard network programs.
I don't have a good place to start in determining what the problem is, so
I'll append portions of some useful-seeming files.  If you need more
information, or have even any half-baked ideas, please let me know.

Here is an excerpt from "dmesg | less" that provides some background info:

-

Swansea University Computer Society NET3.035 for Linux 2.0
NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.13 for Linux NET3.035.
...
Appletalk 0.17 for Linux NET3.035
...
3c59x.c:v0.30-all 12/23/96 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  3Com EtherLink III: Overriding PCI latency timer (CFLT) setting of 32,
new val
ue is 255.
loading device 'eth0'...
eth0: 3Com 3c905 Boomerang 100baseTx at 0xd880, 00:a0:24:d3:7e:ec, IRQ 10
  Internal config register is 16302d8, transceivers 0xe040.
  8K word-wide RAM 3:5 Rx:Tx split, autoselect/MII interface.
eth0: Initial media type MII.
eth0: vortex_open() InternalConfig 016302d8.
eth0: vortex_open() irq 10 media status 8802.
eth0: Media selection timer tick happened, MII.
eth0: Media MII is has no indication, 8802.
eth0: Media selection timer finished, MII.
Too many routes/iface.

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This last line here seems to indicate some sort of problem, though I don't
know exactly what.  The "route" command seems fairly useless in finding
the problem, as it apparently can't show appletalk routes.  Perhaps this
error is not important, though; it doesn't LOOK appletalk-specific, and
all other network stuff has been running fine.

Here is an excerpt from the system log:

--

Jun 24 16:38:06 justin atalkd[159]: restart (1.4b2)
Jun 24 16:38:07 justin atalkd[159]: zip_getnetinfo for eth0
Jun 24 16:38:07 justin atalkd[159]: zip gnireply from 7000.244 (eth0 12)
Jun 24 16:38:08 justin kernel: Too many routes/iface.
Jun 24 16:38:08 justin atalkd[159]: setifaddr: eth0: Invalid argument
Jun 24 16:38:24 justin papd[168]: restart (1.4b2)
Jun 24 16:38:32 justin afpd[170]: Can't register justin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Here, we again see the mysterious "too many routes..." error, and we also
see a problem atalkd is having with "setifaddr".  I couldn't find any info
about this setifaddr, so I assume that it is an internal function of
atalkd.  The "zip gnireply..." line seems to indicate that at least some
appletalk data is coming in over the network.

Finally, here is the output of ifconfig, which seems to indicate that the
kernel has at least picked out an AppleTalk address for itself:

loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Bcast:127.255.255.255  Mask:255.0.0.0
  EtherTalk Phase 2 addr:0/0
  UP BROADCAST LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3584  Metric:1
  RX packets:1008 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
  TX packets:1008 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0

eth0  Link encap:10Mbps Ethernet  HWaddr 00:A0:24:D3:7E:EC
  inet addr:192.147.161.36  Bcast:192.147.161.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
  EtherTalk Phase 2 addr:7349/195
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:50941 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
  TX packets:624 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
  Interrupt:10 Base address:0xd880 


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