Re: allow mount to normal user

1997-12-01 Thread Paul Serice
Adam Klein wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Dec 01, 1997 at 12:46:47AM +1100, Anand Kumria wrote:
> > On Sun, 30 Nov 1997, Benoit Joly wrote:
> >
> > > i want to allow normal user to use mount for floppy and cdrom.
> > > because i dont want to run apps in root account...
> > > what should i do.
> >
> > One of the options you can specify to mount is the 'user' option which
> > allows ordinary users to mount a filesystem. Check 'man 8 mount' for
> > further details.
> >
> > Anand.
> 
> The problem with that is that you can only specify one filesystem type.
> I've got this problem two.  Is there a solution?
> 

I believe using "auto" as the file type should do the trick.


Paul Serice


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Re: [Off Topic] Dumb Perl Question...

1997-12-01 Thread Adam Shand

> perldoc perlsec is your friend! :)
> 
> Bottom line is that globs are *always* tainted, as is anything that
> relies on shell processing (csh being how globbing is done).

Yep, I realise this, but what I didn't have is an alternative.  There's
lots of info on de-tainting user input, but basically zero and globbing
except to say that it's all tainted .

> Try using File::Find, that should let you get data in an untainted manner.

This is however what I needed to know about, and has solved my problem...
thanks.

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Re: Packaging Gimp .99.15

1997-12-01 Thread Adam Shand

> Anyone notice that the Gimp available for Debian 1.3.1 is the old .54
> version?  I have downloaded and successfully compile .99.15 on a libc5
> system, however if you want to get this version (actually .99.14 last I
> looked) from Debian you HAVE to install from the "hamm" area, and that
> requires upgrading to libc6 (which is a pain at best).

Just my $0.02 here.  I had this annoyance to and eventually gave in and
upgraded to libc6...  while I guess other people had problems, I simply
followed the instructions from the Mini Howto and had a grand total of one
problem, some slight utmp corruption (which is hardly a earth shattering
problem).

All I did was upgrade the related packages and everything has worked
painlessly.  

If you feel up to it (it really isn't that bad if you are at all familiar
with Debian/Linux) just upgrade, and lets have our developers spend time
doing cooler things then maintaining backwards compatibility... besidees
hopefully 2.0 will be out soon :)

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Re: Pine

1997-12-01 Thread Daniel Martin
On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Bossman Construction wrote:

> How do I setup pine to use fetchmail or vice versa.  I can get fetchmail to
> download the messages, but do I now need to link pine to look in the inbox
> folder that fetchmail makes?  Where is the downloaded mail stored when using
> fetchmail?
> 
> Jeremy
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.cardina.net/~jeremy

fetchmail doesn't actually put mail messages anywhere - what it does is
download them and then send them through smtp at the local host.  If
you've set up smail so that you can receive messages locally, then just
delete whatever value pine is trying to use as the inbox, so that it goes
back to the default.  However, if you have smail set up as the "satellite"
option, then you may be forwarding all messages back to your ISP, which
fetchmail will then download, and...

This is bad.  In general a big warning should probably accompany the
"satellite" option of smailconfig, as it really isn't appropriate for
one's home computer, yet people seem to think that it is.


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Logo Page updated

1997-12-01 Thread Christian Schwarz

Hi folks!

I'm really happy that we finally have a logo for Debian GNU/Linux!

I've just updated the Debian logo pages at

http://fatman.mathematik.tu-muenchen.de/~schwarz/debian-logo/

The pages include all new submittions that I've received since the last
logo page, the old logo pages and their feedback pages, a statistic
page, and an overview page.

The logo development process started in Sep 96. Since then, 66 authors
submitted 289 (!) logos, that makes 4.3 logos per author! I received 3496
comments through the feedback pages! 

Thanks a lot to all the logo authors and to all people that gave us
feedback!


Cheers,

Chris

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Re: allow mount to normal user

1997-12-01 Thread Martin Bialasinski
On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Adam Klein wrote:

> > > i want to allow normal user to use mount for floppy and cdrom.
> > > because i dont want to run apps in root account...
> > > what should i do.
> > 
> > One of the options you can specify to mount is the 'user' option which
> > allows ordinary users to mount a filesystem. Check 'man 8 mount' for
> > further details.
> > 
> The problem with that is that you can only specify one filesystem type.
> I've got this problem two.  Is there a solution?
> 
Use this way:

install super.deb

check /etc/login.defs for

CONSOLE_GROUPS  floppy:audio:cdrom:dialout:dip:dosdisks 
^^
Hmm, this only works for console logins. So better add the local users who
should be able to mount the floppy to the folppy group in /etc/group

and check /dev/fd0 for

$ ls -l /dev/fd0
brw-rw   1 root floppy 2,   0 Apr 14  1997 /dev/fd0   

insert into /etc/super.tab

fon /usr/local/bin/fon  :floppy uid=root
foff /usr/local/bin/foff:floppy uid=root

Here are the scripts that allow the actuall mount:

cat /usr/local/bin/fon
#!/bin/sh

prog=`basename $0`
# If script invoked w/o super, then exec super to run this script.

test "X$SUPERCMD" = "X$prog" || exec /usr/bin/super $prog ${1+"$@"}

mount -o  rw,nodev,noexec,uid=0,gid=25,umask=007,quiet -t vfat /dev/fd0
/floppy && echo Floppy gemountet unter /mnt/a

cat /usr/local/bin/foff
#!/bin/sh

prog=`basename $0`
# If script invoked w/o super, then exec super to run this script.

test "X$SUPERCMD" = "X$prog" || exec /usr/bin/super $prog ${1+"$@"}

umount /floppy && echo Floppy unmounted   

Now, if you also want to mount a xiafs floppy, simply create copies of
these scripts and change the "-t fstype" expression.

Ciao,
Martin


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RE: Cron run-parts /etc/cron.daily (fwd)

1997-12-01 Thread Matt Thompson
> On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Matt Thompson wrote:
> 
> > ...and my ISP would rather that my machine doesn't continue to send out
> > messages to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. 
> > 
> 
> Well, even if you fix this particular problem, your machine will still
> generate messages to root from time to time, and they probably shouldn't
> go to your ISP. If you're using smail and have it set up with the
> "satellite" option, then that could be what's causing these messages to go
> to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  In that case,re-run smailconfig --force and set your
> machine up with the "internet host"  option. 

oh, now that you mention it, i think i already have set up my system to
send all messages to root to my user, but i'll rerun the config to make
sure.

thanks for the assist,
matty


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outgoing faces???

1997-12-01 Thread Rick Hawkins

In a fit of cleverness, I used a digital camera to take my daughters picture 
to send in an email as an xface to her granparents.  However, as I go through 
the manpage for xfaces, and the help & preferences for exmh, I can only find 
instructions for receiving, not sending.

Can someone point me to where I need to look?

thanks

rick




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Re: Why does bash follow symlinks only sometimes?

1997-12-01 Thread Britton

I'm not certain, but I think bash has some built in variables that affect
the behavior with respect to links.  

On 29 Nov 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> It doesn't understand that /raid/home/blp and /home/blp are the same
> directory. Either set your home directory in /etc/passwd to /raid/home/blp,
> or put a "cd" command in your .bash_profile .
> 
>   Bruce
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Re: allow mount to normal user

1997-12-01 Thread Steve Kostecke
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adam Klein) writes:
> The problem with that is that you can only specify one filesystem type.
> I've got this problem two.  Is there a solution?

How about two seperate lines in your /etc/fstab ??

   
/dev/cdrom   /cdrom  iso9660 ro,user,unhide,noauto   0   0
/dev/fd0 /floppy ext2rw,user,noauto  0   0

See what groups these devices belong to (in my case):
$ ls -l /dev/fd0 /dev/cdrom
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root cdrom   8 Oct  2 16:25 /dev/cdrom -> /dev/hdc
brw-rw   1 root floppy 2,   0 Sep 25 19:34 /dev/fd0
$

Add the users for each device to the appropriate groups...
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RE: Cron run-parts /etc/cron.daily (fwd)

1997-12-01 Thread Matt Thompson
> On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Matt Thompson wrote:
> 
> > I have started getting these messages out of the blue:
> > 
> > chgrp: invalid group name `#-1'
> > chgrp: invalid group name `#-1'
> > chgrp: invalid group name `#-1'
> > chgrp: invalid group name `#-1'
> > chgrp: invalid group name `#-1'
> > chgrp: invalid group name `#-1'
> > 
> >   Electric Fence 2.0.5 Copyright (C) 1987-1995 Bruce Perens.
> > 
> >   Electric Fence 2.0.5 Copyright (C) 1987-1995 Bruce Perens.
> > 
> > ...and my ISP would rather that my machine doesn't continue to send out
> > messages to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. 
> > 
> > Since there doesn't seem to be a man page or an info page and the /usr/doc
> > information is very limited, can someone help me with this?
> > 
> > btw, what does electric fence really do? (in layman's terms :) )
> 
> Update sed, it accidentally got linked with Electric Fence.  efence is a
> malloc debugger that is supposed to help trap bad memory accesses.

Does this help with security?  That is, does it help protect me from
attacks from across the Internet?  Or does it simply help applications
from interfering with one-another?

I'm currently running sed 2.05-19.  I'm running a full hamm installation
and I just updated this morning (Dec 1st).  Would you suppose my problem
is therefore fixed?  Would deinstalling and re-installing efence help at
all?  What pitfalls do I open myself up to if I remove efence?

Hope that's not too many questions...:)

Thanks loads,
matty


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RE: Cron run-parts /etc/cron.daily (fwd)

1997-12-01 Thread Daniel Martin
On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Matt Thompson wrote:

> ...and my ISP would rather that my machine doesn't continue to send out
> messages to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. 
> 

Well, even if you fix this particular problem, your machine will still
generate messages to root from time to time, and they probably shouldn't
go to your ISP. If you're using smail and have it set up with the
"satellite" option, then that could be what's causing these messages to go
to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  In that case,re-run smailconfig --force and set your
machine up with the "internet host"  option. 

DANIEL MARTIN
who is about to launch a crusade against the satellite setup option on
smail...


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Re: CRC-32 program

1997-12-01 Thread Daniel Martin
On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Timothy Phan wrote:

> Hi,
> 
>   I'd like to know where can I get a CRC-32 program? 
> 
>   Thanks!
> 

"cksum" from the textutils package computes a CRC (32 bit) check of files;
the documentation is a bit sketchy (even the info file) - this has the
same functionality as the FreeBSD utility of the same name (i.e. it
produces the same results given the same input). 

(A useless bit of trivia: the polynomial used in the calculation is
 x^32 + x^26 + x^23 + x^22 + x^16 + x^12 + x^11 + x^10 + x^8 + x^7 + 
 x^5 + x^4 + x^2 + x + 1)

If you're looking for a way to generate checksums on files to make certain
that they aren't being mangled in transit (or as tampering protection),
though, it might be better to use the md5 algorithm instead of a CRC-32
sum.  "md5sum" from the base system will compute that.


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RE: [Off Topic] Dumb Perl Question...

1997-12-01 Thread Adam Shand

> I don't "know" the answer to this question, but in your shoes I'd start by
> re-writing the above as:

That (with a couple typo's fixed  :) does the trick beautifully!  Thanks
for the pointer, I figured there had to be a way to do it.

Adam.

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RE: Cron run-parts /etc/cron.daily (fwd)

1997-12-01 Thread Scott Ellis
On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Matt Thompson wrote:

> I have started getting these messages out of the blue:
> 
> chgrp: invalid group name `#-1'
> chgrp: invalid group name `#-1'
> chgrp: invalid group name `#-1'
> chgrp: invalid group name `#-1'
> chgrp: invalid group name `#-1'
> chgrp: invalid group name `#-1'
> 
>   Electric Fence 2.0.5 Copyright (C) 1987-1995 Bruce Perens.
> 
>   Electric Fence 2.0.5 Copyright (C) 1987-1995 Bruce Perens.
> 
> ...and my ISP would rather that my machine doesn't continue to send out
> messages to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. 
> 
> Since there doesn't seem to be a man page or an info page and the /usr/doc
> information is very limited, can someone help me with this?
> 
> btw, what does electric fence really do? (in layman's terms :) )

Update sed, it accidentally got linked with Electric Fence.  efence is a
malloc debugger that is supposed to help trap bad memory accesses.

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Re: Little endian vs. Big endian -- problems untarring a Solaris tape in Linux

1997-12-01 Thread Stephen Zedalis

Well cpio has parameters to swap bytes between big-endian and little
endian machines AND it understands gnu tar format.  No special device
needed...

On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, debian mail recipient wrote:

>
>Hi.  We're having a problem un-tarring a tar tape in Linux that was
>made under Solaris.  I recall having the exact same problem when I tried
>to untar a Solaris tape on an SGI.  The problem was that one machine used
>"little-endian" representations for numbers on the tape, while the other
>used "big-endian".


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RE: Cron run-parts /etc/cron.daily (fwd)

1997-12-01 Thread Matt Thompson
I have started getting these messages out of the blue:

chgrp: invalid group name `#-1'
chgrp: invalid group name `#-1'
chgrp: invalid group name `#-1'
chgrp: invalid group name `#-1'
chgrp: invalid group name `#-1'
chgrp: invalid group name `#-1'

  Electric Fence 2.0.5 Copyright (C) 1987-1995 Bruce Perens.

  Electric Fence 2.0.5 Copyright (C) 1987-1995 Bruce Perens.

...and my ISP would rather that my machine doesn't continue to send out
messages to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. 

Since there doesn't seem to be a man page or an info page and the /usr/doc
information is very limited, can someone help me with this?

btw, what does electric fence really do? (in layman's terms :) )

thanks,
matty


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Re: Mirror?

1997-12-01 Thread Kevin Traas
> Does anybody know of any reliable mirorrs? .

I use exclusively ftp.cdrom.com or sunsite.unc.edu.

Either of them always have very reasonable rates - and I'm on T1.

Later,
Kevin Traas


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Little endian vs. Big endian -- problems untarring a Solaris tape in Linux

1997-12-01 Thread debian mail recipient

Hi.  We're having a problem un-tarring a tar tape in Linux that was
made under Solaris.  I recall having the exact same problem when I tried
to untar a Solaris tape on an SGI.  The problem was that one machine used
"little-endian" representations for numbers on the tape, while the other
used "big-endian".

The solution on the SGI was to use a special device (i.e. /dev/?) that
allowed the tape to be read the tape properly.

The current tape device we are using is "/dev/st0".  Is there a device on
Linux that will read different-endian tapes.  I notice /dev/st0a, /dev/st0l,
and /dev/st0m -- should I try these?  Do I need to make a new device file with
mknod?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

TIA

-- Harmon


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CRC-32 program

1997-12-01 Thread Timothy Phan
Hi,

  I'd like to know where can I get a CRC-32 program? 

  Thanks!

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Re: Soundblaster 16 PnP: Newbie Installation Success! (sort of): Correction

1997-12-01 Thread Claude Sisson
I was mistaken on one point: it turns out that I can still play audio
CDs with my CD drive connected directly to the motherboard (Fleetwood
Mac's Greatest Hits album sounds just fine as I type this). Special
thanks to Nathan E Norman and Bill Leach for pointing this out to me.


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Re: Mirror?

1997-12-01 Thread Larry G. Gariepy Jr.

--- You wrote:
I have been getting REALLY slow transfer rates on the Debian FTP site (like
0.22k/s) when I ussualy get AT LEAEST around 1.8K/s and seems how I screwed
up and downloaded the wrong stuff I have to mirror most of the msdos-i386
branch to my HD. Does anybody know of any reliable mirorrs? I tired the
ones listed in the welcome msg but they didn't have and *.deb files that I
could find, any help would be appreciative, thanx. Allen

--- end of quote ---
Our math department has a Debian mirror (at Dartmouth. College).  Try using
ftp.math.dartmouth.edu.

Larry


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Re: teTeX packages

1997-12-01 Thread Ralf Comtesse
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Hi

I had the same problem. It seems, that during installation, some of the
files in /etc/texmf get removed, but later packages depend on them. I
finally succeeded by installing the packages manualy with dpkg not with
select

1. base package
2. bin
3. extras
then the other stuff I wanted.

Regards
Ralf

On 01-Dec-97 E.L. Meijer \(Eric\) wrote:
>> 
>> I can't seem to get Debian's teTeX to work at all ("can't find default
>> format file" from tex).  But when I downloaded it direct from sunsite,
>> it worked fine.  Has anyone had a similar experience?  I suppose I
>> could include more (or any, actually) details if requested.
>> -- 
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>
>Did you try to run texhash or texconfig?  If during installation texhash
>wasn't run for some reason, this kind of problem can occur.
>
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Re: HP printer and printcap (cont.)

1997-12-01 Thread Brian K Servis
G. Kapetanios writes:
>
> 
>Thanks very much for your help. I am using  magicfilter and from what I
>heard in the list, people think it might be slightly better, it has worked
>for my bubblejet anyway. In the last few minutes I managed to print dvi
>files by using the dvihp command. However the most important thing for me
>is to print ps files. Does anyone know of a utility that turns ps files to
>pcl ?? It seems likely that the ljet4l-filter that comes with magicfilter
>is not dealing very well with any file type apart from test files for
>which it removes the staircase effect and now pcl files. 
>
>Thanks 
>George 
>

You need ghostscript.  Get the Alladin version out of non-free as it
has the most up to date drivers.  It will convert ps files to about
any printer language out there.  There is even a driver for the hp
550(cdj550).  When you installed the magicfilter package it should
have asked you if you wanted to install the gs package as well.

Good luck,
Brian
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>
>
>
>On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Pancho Horrillo wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>> I have a HP550C working under debian, just using apsfilter / lpr
>> It's easy to configure, it asks everything necessary.
>> note: apsfilter doesn't work with LPRng, there is a package named
>> magicfilter for it, but i haven't tried it.
>> 


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Problem with keyboard

1997-12-01 Thread Orn E. Hansen
Witold Grabysz writes:
 > Dear Friends,
 > it happened to me to use Polish as my native language. In general we use
 > 
 > Latin alphabet plus some unique
 > letters (the same do the German and French). It seemed to me during
 > configuration I set my keyboard to
 > support Polish signs:
 > 
 > Xkbkeycodes "xfree86"
 > XkbTypes"default"
 > XkbCompat   "default"
 > XkbSymbols  "en_US(pc101)+pl"
 > 
 > however it doesn't work. For example appart from 'a' we have a letter
 > called (even in English documentation)
 > 'a ogonek' (a with a small tail). It should be evoked by pressing 'a'
 > together with right Alt. I ran xkeycaps and
 > saw, that a+right Alt is bound to 'a ogonek', but when I press it (in
 > terminal window or now in Netscape mail
 > editor) there is no reaction. Just nothing!
 > 

 Well, there is a keysym named "dead_ogonek", basically it is the
escape key to get to "a ogonek".  By pressing dead_ogonek + a.

 However, I just got 'a' by pressing that key pair.  Are you sure the
ogonek belongs to Latin1?  And what characters are you looking for?

  áéíóúý  -  dead_acute
  àèìòù   -  dead_grave
  âêîôû   -  dead_tilde
  äëïöüÿ  -  dead_diaeresis
  å   -  dead_abovering

 If it's any of the above, you can get them through the dead key that
is listed beside the table.  Just put one of the keys on your keyboard
to it, like:

  xmodmap -e "keycode 76 = dead_acute"

 Will give you the result F10 + a = á (keycode 76 is F10 on my
keyboard, just be careful of not removing any of your standard keys
:-).

 There is also another method, to get to these characters.  Through
the so-called compose key.  On my keyboard this key is the 'Windows'
key on the right side of the keyboard, through it COMPOSE d - = ð,
as an example.


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Re: Pine

1997-12-01 Thread David Stern

On Mon, 01 Dec 1997 11:13:51 EST, "Jeremy Blonde" wrote:
> I'm trying to setup pine and so far I can't figure a couple of things out.
> I want it to download email from my isp.  Right now I don't care about local
> mail (I'll work with that later).  However I keep getting a imap error?  I
> have the domain set correctly (cardina.net, see email address below).  And I
> have the smtp server set to mail.cardina.net (obviously our mail server).
> But what should I have for my inbox path {mail.cardina.net}?.  Am I missing
> something else?  Do I need smail correctly configured?  If so, what do I
> need to edit.  Also for some reason when and email is sent to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (I have static ip) it doesn't go to my inbox, it
> goes to the sysadmin's.  Any help would be appreciated.

As mentioned by someone undoubtedly more knowledgable than myself, pine 
doesn't deliver mail from your remote server to your local box.  I'm 
not familiar with getting your static ip host to deliver your mail, but 
if you can do that, go for it.  You have many alternatives, even if use 
pine.

Up until last week, I used pine remotely (via dynamic ip unix shell 
account telnet session).  Now I use fetchmail as a Mail Transport 
Agent(to get my mail from my isp's mailspool to my box), procmail to 
deliver my mail locally and filter my mail into individual exmh (my 
mail program) folders (filtering is very sweet, pretty easy to 
implement).

While I have sendmail for outgoing messages, it is not used for local 
delivery (although i could set that up).  The reason sendmail doesn't 
handle local delivery is that it's a bitch to configure, while procmail 
is a comparative walk in the park. By using procmail for local message 
delivery, I make a small tradeoff in the rate of message delivery to 
exmh folders, but I usually can't read faster than procmail can deliver 
(exception: spam and the messages my isp sends to tell me I've exceeded 
my soft time limit :-).

Here are a couple links I used to help me configure that stuff last 
week:
http://www.math.jhu.edu/~martind/mybox.html
http://www.mindspring.com/~stk3/linux/ppp/

This sounded complicated when I started, but due to the excellent 
examples at the links above, it was relatively painless.  The faqs 
(homepages), docs (/usr/doc), exmh mailing list were also helpful, and 
as usual the man pages were .. well, you know .. :-)

David Stern


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Re: Anti-relaying rules for smail?

1997-12-01 Thread Tommy Lakofski
In addition to the steps already mentioned to stop relaying (I use
sendmail, so I don't have a clue here...), you might want to do a couple
things:

-use ipfwadm to stop his host even touching your port 25.

-here's the fun part: invoice him for the cost of bandwidth, processor
cycles, diskspace and your time. When he doesn't pay, turn over the
invoice to a debt collection agency. They'll pay you a proportion of the
debt, and then harass him for years and probably damage his credit rating.
A**holes of this caliber deserve medieval treatment of this kind.

Thomas. 


On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Remco Blaakmeer wrote:

> From: Remco Blaakmeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Debian Users List 
> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 04:11:06 +0100 (CET)
> Subject: Anti-relaying rules for smail?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Some guy is relaying a huge lot of spam e-mail via my computer. My
> computer is normally only used by myself and I do receive a lot of e-mail
> through several lists, but this guy caused /var/log/smail/logfile to be 41
> MB (that's right, forty-one MEGABYTES) [1]. Does anyone know how to
> prevent such actions, apart from blocking smtp traffic from his computer
> [2]?  I tried mailing his postmaster (using his IP address, not the From:
> line), but I got a 'message undeliverable' (or something like that) error.
> 
> What I would want is a filter that blocks any attempt of sending an e-mail
> from another host to a user at a third host. I beleive this is called
> relaying.  The filter should look at the 'rcpt to:' smtp command, not at
> the 'From:' or 'To:' headers. I know this can be done with sendmail,
but
> how do I do it with smail?
> 
> Remco
> 
> [1] this file is rotated once a day like on any default Debian system
> 
> [2] this doesn't prevent others from doing the same trick
> 
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Re: proxy server question

1997-12-01 Thread Tommy Lakofski
You did compile firewalling into your kernel, didn't you?

On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Mark Stone wrote:

> From: Mark Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 08:58:33 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: proxy server question
> 
> I'm attempting to use one of my computers at home as a proxy server for
> the others. At a recent installfest I got everything set up with a great
> deal of help from a couple of Debian gurus. Now, at home, things don't
> seem to be working, and I don't know what I could have changed to make a
> difference.
> 
> Specifically, in response to the command:
> ipfwadm -F -p deny
> I get the error message:
> ipfwadm: setsockopt failed: Protocol not available.
> 
> I have been through the NAG, the Firewall-How-to, the man pages, etc., and
> am no closer to diagnosing the problem. Suggestions would bne appreciated.
> 
> Mark Stone
> 
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Blah, sorry

1997-12-01 Thread Nathan E Norman
Hmm, looking at my last message I see my quoting wasn't real cool.
Sorry about that, I intended to snip all but the command about no audio,
not the "frustrated newbie" part.  (been there)

Sorry.

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Re: allow mount to normal user

1997-12-01 Thread Adam Klein
On Mon, Dec 01, 1997 at 12:46:47AM +1100, Anand Kumria wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Nov 1997, Benoit Joly wrote:
> 
> > i want to allow normal user to use mount for floppy and cdrom.
> > because i dont want to run apps in root account...
> > what should i do.
> 
> One of the options you can specify to mount is the 'user' option which
> allows ordinary users to mount a filesystem. Check 'man 8 mount' for
> further details.
> 
> Anand.

The problem with that is that you can only specify one filesystem type.
I've got this problem two.  Is there a solution?

Adam Klein


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HP printer and printcap (cont.)

1997-12-01 Thread G. Kapetanios
 
Thanks very much for your help. I am using  magicfilter and from what I
heard in the list, people think it might be slightly better, it has worked
for my bubblejet anyway. In the last few minutes I managed to print dvi
files by using the dvihp command. However the most important thing for me
is to print ps files. Does anyone know of a utility that turns ps files to
pcl ?? It seems likely that the ljet4l-filter that comes with magicfilter
is not dealing very well with any file type apart from test files for
which it removes the staircase effect and now pcl files. 

Thanks 
George 





On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Pancho Horrillo wrote:

> Hi!
> I have a HP550C working under debian, just using apsfilter / lpr
> It's easy to configure, it asks everything necessary.
> note: apsfilter doesn't work with LPRng, there is a package named
> magicfilter for it, but i haven't tried it.
> 
> here is my printcap:
> 
> ## /etc/printcap: printer capability database. See printcap(5).
> ## You can use the filter entries df, tf, cf, gf etc. for
> ## your own filters. See /etc/filter.ps, /etc/filter.pcl and
> ## the printcap(5) manual page for further details.
> #
> #lp|Generic dot-matrix printer entry:\
> #:lp=/dev/lp1:\
> #:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
> #:df=/etc/filter.ps:\
> #:tf=/etc/filter.pcl:\
> #:af=/var/log/lp-acct:\
> #:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:\
> #:pl#66:\
> #:pw#80:\
> #:pc#150:\
> #:mx#0:\
> #:sh:
> #
> ## rlp|Remote printer entry:\
> ## :lp=:\
> ## :rm=remotehost:\
> ## :rp=remoteprinter:\
> ## :sd=/var/spool/lpd/remote:\
> ## :mx#0:\
> ## :sh:
> # LABEL apsfilter
> # apsfilter setup Sun Nov  9 13:52:17 CET 1997
> #
> # APS_BASEDIR:/usr/lib/apsfilter
> #
> #
> ascii|lp1|ljet4-a4-ascii-mono|ljet4 ascii mono:\
>   :lp=/dev/lp1:\
>   :sd=/var/spool/lpd/ljet4-a4-ascii-mono:\
>   :lf=/var/spool/lpd/ljet4-a4-ascii-mono/log:\
>   :af=/var/spool/lpd/ljet4-a4-ascii-mono/acct:\
>   :if=/usr/lib/apsfilter/filter/aps-ljet4-a4-ascii-mono:\
>   :mx#0:\
>   :sh:
> #
> lp|lp2|ljet4-a4-auto-mono|ljet4 auto mono:\
>   :lp=/dev/lp1:\
>   :sd=/var/spool/lpd/ljet4-a4-auto-mono:\
>   :lf=/var/spool/lpd/ljet4-a4-auto-mono/log:\
>   :af=/var/spool/lpd/ljet4-a4-auto-mono/acct:\
>   :if=/usr/lib/apsfilter/filter/aps-ljet4-a4-auto-mono:\
>   :mx#0:\
>   :sh:
> #
> raw|lp3|ljet4-a4-raw|ljet4 auto raw:\
>   :lp=/dev/lp1:\
>   :sd=/var/spool/lpd/ljet4-raw:\
>   :lf=/var/spool/lpd/ljet4-raw/log:\
>   :af=/var/spool/lpd/ljet4-raw/acct:\
>   :if=/usr/lib/apsfilter/filter/aps-ljet4-a4-raw:\
>   :mx#0:\
>   :sh:
> 
> Ok. Good Luck!
> 
> note: you need ghostcript also
> 
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> 
> 

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Re: Quantum UDMA Drive & Linux

1997-12-01 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Allen Burns wrote:
> 
> Hi, it's me again, is this going through? The reason I ask is because
> nobody has answered me or my questions? But I have a Quantum UDMA drive
> along with a Gateway2000 UDMA controller card and when I try to insstall
> Debian it won't detect any hard drives, or it will detect my internal IDE
> zip drive as my only hard drive. Has anyone else experienced this problem?
> I really need a fix for it. Any help would be appreciative, thanx.

Why don't you run 'dmesg' after the system boots and send us the output?
This would be helpful.

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Re: Soundblaster 16 PnP: Newbie Installation Success! (sort of)

1997-12-01 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Claude Sisson wrote:

[ snip ]
: 
: I hope this helps some other frustrated newbies out there.
: 

Why can't you play audio CD-ROMs?  The controller cable is exactly that,
a controller cable.  Every CD-ROM I've ever installed has a seperate
audio cable that runs to the sound card ... just make sure that's
connected and you're in business. 

fwiw, my home pc has a CD-ROM connected to the Motherboard, /dev/hdd, an
AWE-64 soundcard, and works just fine.

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Re: HP printer and printcap

1997-12-01 Thread Pancho Horrillo
Hi!
I have a HP550C working under debian, just using apsfilter / lpr
It's easy to configure, it asks everything necessary.
note: apsfilter doesn't work with LPRng, there is a package named
magicfilter for it, but i haven't tried it.

here is my printcap:

## /etc/printcap: printer capability database. See printcap(5).
## You can use the filter entries df, tf, cf, gf etc. for
## your own filters. See /etc/filter.ps, /etc/filter.pcl and
## the printcap(5) manual page for further details.
#
#lp|Generic dot-matrix printer entry:\
#:lp=/dev/lp1:\
#:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
#:df=/etc/filter.ps:\
#:tf=/etc/filter.pcl:\
#:af=/var/log/lp-acct:\
#:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:\
#:pl#66:\
#:pw#80:\
#:pc#150:\
#:mx#0:\
#:sh:
#
## rlp|Remote printer entry:\
## :lp=:\
## :rm=remotehost:\
## :rp=remoteprinter:\
## :sd=/var/spool/lpd/remote:\
## :mx#0:\
## :sh:
# LABEL apsfilter
# apsfilter setup Sun Nov  9 13:52:17 CET 1997
#
# APS_BASEDIR:/usr/lib/apsfilter
#
#
ascii|lp1|ljet4-a4-ascii-mono|ljet4 ascii mono:\
:lp=/dev/lp1:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/ljet4-a4-ascii-mono:\
:lf=/var/spool/lpd/ljet4-a4-ascii-mono/log:\
:af=/var/spool/lpd/ljet4-a4-ascii-mono/acct:\
:if=/usr/lib/apsfilter/filter/aps-ljet4-a4-ascii-mono:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:
#
lp|lp2|ljet4-a4-auto-mono|ljet4 auto mono:\
:lp=/dev/lp1:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/ljet4-a4-auto-mono:\
:lf=/var/spool/lpd/ljet4-a4-auto-mono/log:\
:af=/var/spool/lpd/ljet4-a4-auto-mono/acct:\
:if=/usr/lib/apsfilter/filter/aps-ljet4-a4-auto-mono:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:
#
raw|lp3|ljet4-a4-raw|ljet4 auto raw:\
:lp=/dev/lp1:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/ljet4-raw:\
:lf=/var/spool/lpd/ljet4-raw/log:\
:af=/var/spool/lpd/ljet4-raw/acct:\
:if=/usr/lib/apsfilter/filter/aps-ljet4-a4-raw:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:

Ok. Good Luck!

note: you need ghostcript also

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Re: how do I kill samba?

1997-12-01 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Paul Miller wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 28 Nov 1997, Adam Shand wrote:
> 
> >
> > > how do I kill samba when it is loaded from inetd? .. smbd doesn't even
> > > appear on ps -aux unless a service is being used.
> >
> > If there are no processes running then samba isn't running.  If you would
> > like to stop it from running on demand then you need to comment the line
> > containing smbd and nmbd from /etc/inetd.conf and restart (or send a SIG
> > HUP) to inetd.
> >
> > Adam.
> 
>  ok, so if I comment out the smbd and nmbd lines in inetd.conf, how do I
> stop using port 139? - If I run smbd it says that port 139 is already in
> use.

port 139 is the netbios session port (the one which is used for file/print 
service,
*not* the one used for netbios name service). You must comment out the line
in /etc/inetd.conf which starts smbd. inetd is listening on this port. Back
to your original question of how you could kill samba, I'm wondering what your
real intent is. Is your contention that "no file/print service is being used,
so why is this smbd process around?" The answer there is: win95 likes to keep
connections around. Is your contention "hey, I don't want to be offering samba
shares to the internet!" You can use the "interfaces" option to smbd.conf to
change what IP interface smbd will listen on. Then you just have to worry about
IP spoofing. If you just want to get rid of samba, look for all the lines in
/etc/inetd.conf which start with "netbios-" and comment/remove them. Then type
'killall -HUP inetd'. No need to reboot.


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sound w/o card (via pc-speaker)

1997-12-01 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes

Hi ALL,


Is there some to have /dev/dsp, /dev/audio, /dev/pcaudio, and
so on, connected to the pc speaker?
That is, i would like to use, e.g., realaudio w/o sound card

[]s,
Mario O.de Menezes"Many are the plans in a man's heart, but
IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails"
http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21


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HP printer and printcap

1997-12-01 Thread G. Kapetanios

Hi,

I have just installed a new HP 6L printer. It works fine under Windows. It
works under DEbian but only reacts when text files are sent to it. When ps
or dvi files are sent it does nothing. I am using the ljet4l-filter but
otherwise changed nothing in my printcap which worked fine with a bubble
jet printer. Can someone please describe their setup with this or a
similar printer. I would like to have a printcap file  example if
possibke. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am really desperate
here because I have deadlines by tomorrow and can't print Please help !
  
  Thanks
  George  

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Re: Pine

1997-12-01 Thread Daniel Martin
On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Jeremy Blonde wrote:

> I'm trying to setup pine and so far I can't figure a couple of things out.
> I want it to download email from my isp.  Right now I don't care about local
> mail (I'll work with that later).  However I keep getting a imap error?  I
> have the domain set correctly (cardina.net, see email address below).  And I
> have the smtp server set to mail.cardina.net (obviously our mail server).
> But what should I have for my inbox path {mail.cardina.net}?.  Am I missing
> something else?  Do I need smail correctly configured?  If so, what do I

As mentioned by other people, you may wish to not use IMAP at all.  If you
do, though, you might try "{mail.cardina.net}inbox".  If this doesn't
work, then I don't know.

> need to edit.  Also for some reason when and email is sent to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (I have static ip) it doesn't go to my inbox, it
> goes to the sysadmin's.  Any help would be appreciated.

This is probably a result of configuring your smail using the "satellite" 
option.  Re-run smailconfig and configure your site with the "internet
host" option or with whatever option allows only the local delivery of
mail to avoid this. You could then create a ~jeremy/.forward file to
forward mail to your ISP, so that you'd read it along with all your other
mail. (though the .forward wouldn't work if you only allow local delivery
of mail)

Alternatively, you could have pine use the default inbox, and then add
your ISP's imap stuff as another "collection" - in the config.  menus
there's some option that talks about mail collections - add one called
"{mail.cardina.net}[]".  However, the .forward option mentioned above is
probably a better idea, unless you have some reason to want to disable
outgoing mail by other users on your machine.

As mentioned by others though, why do this to yourself?  Use fetchmail
combined with pine looking only locally unless you have a real reason to
store mail on your ISP's machine.


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Unidentified subject!

1997-12-01 Thread lothar houben
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jdk breakage (was: pon permission problems)

1997-12-01 Thread Stephen Zander
michael wrote:
> PPS.  I installed the jdk stuff via dpkg as well.  It took a while to
> figure out why Netscape was exiting by itself.  I thought Java was
> included with it, why isn't it and why does it crash without it (because
> I've got Java module support installed in the kernel?)?

Eh, Communicator does indeed come with a Java run-time environment. Are you
sure you you defined the apropriate environment variable (MOZILLA_HOME) as
I don't think the debian installer puts the netscape libraries anywhere
Communicator expects to find them.


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proxy server question

1997-12-01 Thread Mark Stone
I'm attempting to use one of my computers at home as a proxy server for
the others. At a recent installfest I got everything set up with a great
deal of help from a couple of Debian gurus. Now, at home, things don't
seem to be working, and I don't know what I could have changed to make a
difference.

Specifically, in response to the command:
ipfwadm -F -p deny
I get the error message:
ipfwadm: setsockopt failed: Protocol not available.

I have been through the NAG, the Firewall-How-to, the man pages, etc., and
am no closer to diagnosing the problem. Suggestions would bne appreciated.

Mark Stone


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Re: Pine

1997-12-01 Thread Joost Kooij
On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Jeremy Blonde wrote:

> I'm trying to setup pine and so far I can't figure a couple of things out.
> I want it to download email from my isp.  Right now I don't care about local
> mail (I'll work with that later).  However I keep getting a imap error?  I
> have the domain set correctly (cardina.net, see email address below).  And I
> have the smtp server set to mail.cardina.net (obviously our mail server).
> But what should I have for my inbox path {mail.cardina.net}?.  Am I missing
> something else?  Do I need smail correctly configured?  If so, what do I
> need to edit.  Also for some reason when and email is sent to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (I have static ip) it doesn't go to my inbox, it
> goes to the sysadmin's.  Any help would be appreciated.

I don't know how far you have configured things, but:

Pine is only a mailreader, it needs a mail transport and delivery system,
(though with pine you can actually read mail while keeping it on a remote
server.)

Since you have static ip, you'll want to setup the underlying MTA and then
configure pine to use that. With static ip, you can easily get it
configured with the installation scripts. 

(It is worth to mention fetchmail here. If you can't get your ISP to
spool SMTP mail when you're offline and to send the batch when you
connect (but you should try to get them to do that for you,) then you can
use fetchmail to pull mail from an inbox on the ISP's server and give it
to your local MTA. In fact, I think you can let fetchmail do much of the
MTA work and if you are prepared to do without local mail and can send
mail to an SMTP-relaying server, then you could even do without an MTA.
But it is non-standard (read: harder) to do. Since you already have a
fixed ip, go for the MTA.)

Pine then configures and works out of the box, presuming that it can rely 
on a well-configured local MTA.

If you want to use pine while bypassing a local MTA (and it is in fact
possible, but you don't want it) then you must configure it to use your
provider's IMAP services. But is is harder to do than just hitting enter
6 times when smail is configured and another 4 times when pine is.

First try it the simple way and then try to do acrobatics.

Cheers,


Joost


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Re: IP Masq Resource

1997-12-01 Thread mike
On Sat, 29 Nov 1997, Kevin Traas wrote:

> I haven't been able to reach http://ipmasq.home.ml.org today at all - and,
> of course, the list of mirrors is on that site as well So much for fault
> tolerance
> 
> Anyone know of an available mirror of this site?

http://www.indyramp.com/mirrors/ipmasq/
I had the same problem allthough it appears that the main webpage
is up now. 

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Re: PPP problems

1997-12-01 Thread emaziuk
On Mon, Dec 01, 1997 at 02:53:55PM +, Ian & Gill Watkins wrote:
> I am attempting to get PPPD to work from my Debian Linux machine with a
> marked lack of success
> 
> Nov 25 16:12:25 server pppd[140]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 
>]
> Nov 25 16:12:43 server last message repeated 6 times

Your pppd keeps sending Config Requests until it times out.  Normally
LCP ConfReq is followed by "received LCP ConfAck" -- received from
remote pppd.  So, in your case remote pppd is not running.

In minicom wait unitl you receive a line of garbage with many curly
brackets.  That's remote pppd sending you ConfReq's.  Then exit and
fire up pppd.

HTH

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Re: Using Netscape's mail functions

1997-12-01 Thread Markus Schneider
Randy Edwards wrote:
> 
>I'm running Netscape 4.04 with bo and have been having some trouble
> getting Netscape's internal mail to work.  I've set Netscape's preferences
> to use its internal movemail function and have chmod'ed my
> /var/spool/mail/redwards subdirectory to 01777 like Netscape recommends.
> However, I still get permission denied errors.

I havn't made any changes to the permissions, but since I am using emacs
I have set "/usr/lib/emacs/19.34/i386-debian-linux/movemail" as the
externel movemail application. See also
http://home.netscape.com/eng/mozilla/2.0/relnotes/demo/movemail.html

Markus.


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No guest account from Mac using netatalk

1997-12-01 Thread Francesco Potorti`
Hi,

I installed netatalk and it works well, but I cannot login as guest
user from the Mac, the Guest radio button remains grayed.

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks
Francesco


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Pine

1997-12-01 Thread Jeremy Blonde
I'm trying to setup pine and so far I can't figure a couple of things out.
I want it to download email from my isp.  Right now I don't care about local
mail (I'll work with that later).  However I keep getting a imap error?  I
have the domain set correctly (cardina.net, see email address below).  And I
have the smtp server set to mail.cardina.net (obviously our mail server).
But what should I have for my inbox path {mail.cardina.net}?.  Am I missing
something else?  Do I need smail correctly configured?  If so, what do I
need to edit.  Also for some reason when and email is sent to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (I have static ip) it doesn't go to my inbox, it
goes to the sysadmin's.  Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Jeremy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.cardina.net/~jeremy


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Re: PPP problems

1997-12-01 Thread Daniel Martin
On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Ian & Gill Watkins wrote:

> I am attempting to get PPPD to work from my Debian Linux machine with a
> marked lack of success
> 
> I have been firing up Minicom to dial and log on, then CTRL-AQ to drop
> out of Minicom without reseting the modem (as described in the PPP-
> HOWTO) and then entering a command thus:
> 
> pppd -d -detach /dev/ttyS0 38400 &
> 
> again from the PPP-HOWTO. The additional commands are defined in the PPP
> options file.
> 
> This is the data I get from the log:
> 
> Nov 25 16:12:25 server pppd[140]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0
> Nov 25 16:12:25 server pppd[140]: Using interface ppp0
> Nov 25 16:12:25 server pppd[140]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0
> Nov 25 16:12:25 server pppd[140]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 
>]
> Nov 25 16:12:43 server last message repeated 6 times
> Nov 25 16:12:44 server pppd[140]: Modem hangup
> Nov 25 16:12:44 server pppd[140]: Connection terminated.
> Nov 25 16:12:44 server pppd[140]: Exit.
> 
> There is a little modem activity and then the modem drops.

Um... are you certain that you're getting all the way through the login
process to the part where ppp is starting?  That is, do you end up seeing
a long string of essentially garbage just before you exit minicom?  I was
having an unexplained modem hangup that occurred as a result of exiting
out too early - I assumed tha ppp would start up right away after giving
the password, but this wasn't the case.  Also, then, my connect script
wouldn't work because it was based on my mistaken belief and so was too
short.


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Re: pcmcia install

1997-12-01 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
On Monday, 1 December 1997, Mike Miller writes:

> > "jan" == Jan Nieuwenhuizen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Now i wanted to install it on my notebook at home; the
> > easiest way would be via my pcmcia network card and nfs; or
> > otherwise via zip drive.  But i guess debian doesn't do
> > either (i guess i could try to install debian base from
> > floppies --- duh), while redhat easily supports pcmcia
> > stuff.
> 
> This is not at all true.  Debian supports ftp and nfs
> installation methods and easily supports pcmcia stuff I've
> installed it on several laptops and found it quite easy to
> install via pcmcia ethernet card.  I suggest going about it this
> way:

Ok, thanks for the instructions --- maybe i'll go about it like this 
anyway, because it *indeed* shouldn't be difficult, let alone impossible.
And, like i stated, i do like debian a lot.

The points i failed to make were, that you can use pcmcia only *after*
you've installed (the base system), which requires at least seven floppies 
and some hand work, and how much more i liked the redhat pcmcia install:

get two floppies, "boot.img" and "supp.img"; boot the "boot" floppy:

do you have a color monitor y/n?  n
what keyboard do you use?  dvorak (!)
do you need pcmcia y/n?  y
please insert supplementary floppy.
...initialising pcmcia
...found network card
...initialising network card
what install method do you want to use?  NFS

[or something very similar]

and that i offered to take a look at the debian install --- if needed, 
because it should be so easy to make it much more pcmcia-user-friendly.


Whenever i need floppies for such a temporary thing as a system setup, 
i'll probably not mark them --- i'm always short of floppies.  If i have
to use more than two floppies, i know that i will get interrupted or have
to start over for some reason, and get into this horrible and silly which 
was which?  Now i know this is not too smart, and i know the solution, but 
i guess this is how most people will go about it.

As an aside, why call the debian setup floppy "resc1440.bin" when it could 
be named something like "boot.bin", or "debian.bin" (alongside debi1200.bin/
boot1200.bin)?


Greetings,

jan.


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Re: HELP: CD install of 1.3.1 with Panasonic 24x

1997-12-01 Thread Daniel Martin
On Sun, 30 Nov 1997, Albert Hurd wrote:

> I am trying to install Debian 1.3.1 from CheapBytes disk on a new computer
> (and a newbie at Linux) which has a Matshita (Panasonic) CR-585 24x
> CDRom. At the point in the install where it tries to access the CDRom, it
> halts with the error message: mount: /dev/cdrom is not a valid block
> device.

I don't know if this is your problem, but I got the same error installing
1.3.1 on a machine because I'd incorrectly specified where the CD drive
was; I thought it was /dev/hdb when it's really /dev/hdc.  Try doing the
install again directly from CD and once you get past the step where you
specify your keyboard, hit ALT-F2 to get to a shell screen, and run the
command
dmesg | more
Then look through there for the bit where it detects your hard drive (this
will be the bit where it says "hda"), and see if it detects your CD drive,
and what device it thinks it is.


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Soundblaster 16 PnP: Newbie Installation Success! (sort of)

1997-12-01 Thread Claude Sisson
I am a newbie who was trying to install Debian from a CD-ROM that was
attached to a Soundblaster 16 PnP card. The problem: when I ran dselect,
I could never give it an answer to "block device name" that would find
my CD-ROM, so I was unable to get information off of the CD.

My solution: 
- I opened the computer case. 
- I found the cable connecting the CD-ROM drive to the Soundblaster
card. 
- I disconnected the cable from the card and connected it to one of the
IDE interfaces on my motherboard (on my old motherboard, I suppose I
would have connected it to the hard drive controller card).
- (I did some minor tinkering with the BIOS, but I don't think it was
necessary.)
- (I checked to make sure that Windows 95 was still working properly
with this set up; it was.)
- I reinstalled the Debian base system on my hard drive.
- When I ran dselect, and it asked for block device name, I entered:
/dev/hdb  (failure)
/dev/hdc  (failure)
/dev/hdd  (SUCCESS!)

I now have the default Debian installation on my hard disk.

I realize that this was a clumsy, inelegant, klugy solution, and that
the Debian wizards (among whom I hope to be someday) will probably have
a good laugh about it, but it did work for me, and it might work for
some of the other newbies who have their CD-ROM attached to a
Soundblaster PnP. If all else fails, give it a try.

Obviously, I cannot play audio CD-ROMs with this set up, but I would
rather install and play with Debian GNU Linux than to play CDs on my
computer.

I hope this helps some other frustrated newbies out there.


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Re: pcmcia install

1997-12-01 Thread Mike Miller
> "jan" == Jan Nieuwenhuizen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Now i wanted to install it on my notebook at home; the
> easiest way would be via my pcmcia network card and nfs; or
> otherwise via zip drive.  But i guess debian doesn't do
> either (i guess i could try to install debian base from
> floppies --- duh), while redhat easily supports pcmcia
> stuff.

This is not at all true.  Debian supports ftp and nfs
installation methods and easily supports pcmcia stuff I've
installed it on several laptops and found it quite easy to
install via pcmcia ethernet card.  I suggest going about it this
way:

- install the base system from the floppy images

- copy (with another handy floppy) the pcmcia-cs and
  pcmcia-modules packages to your laptop

- Install them with `dpkg --install pcmcia-cs_.deb' and
  `dpkg --install pcmcia-modules_.deb'

- edit /etc/pcmcia/network.opts to match your network
  configuration. 

- use dselect to finish the installation, either using an nfs
  mounted volume of ftp.

Regards, Mike

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Unidentified subject!

1997-12-01 Thread thb


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Re: allow mount to normal user

1997-12-01 Thread Fabrizio Polacco
Remco Blaakmeer wrote:
> 
> Yes, but there is more to this. The disk, floppy and cdrom devices
> (I mean the /dev/* files for them) have permissions 0660 on a default
> Debian system, so that normal users can't access them. The solution
> to this is _not_ to make the permissions 0666, but to make the user
> a member of the group that owns the device, i.e.
> 

Why?
Command mount is setuid root and after mount you don't need to access
the /dev file that is already mounted elsewhere on the filesystem.


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RE: allow mount to normal use

1997-12-01 Thread Orn E. Hansen
Bill Leach writes:
 > The simplest and most direct solution is to add "users" to the list of 
 > options for each filesystem that you want your users to be able to mount 
 > (in /etc/fstab).
 > So, your cdrom entry might look something like:
 > /dev/hdd/cdrom  iso9660 noauto,users   00
 > 
 Just a hint...

 it is often convenient to make a link from /dev/cdrom  to whatever
device your CD-ROM is on.  Thus, if you add devices, or change your
configuration, you only have to change one link, instead of every
program that uses the CD-ROM ;-)


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teTeX packages

1997-12-01 Thread Orn E. Hansen
Ben Pfaff writes:
 > I can't seem to get Debian's teTeX to work at all ("can't find default
 > format file" from tex).  But when I downloaded it direct from sunsite,
 > it worked fine.  Has anyone had a similar experience?  I suppose I
 > could include more (or any, actually) details if requested.

 I had precisely the same problem.  What I did was do a

 dpkg --extract tetex-base

 Then, I entered the directory /etc/texmf, and renamed all the files
there from '*.dpkg-new' removing the '.dpkg-new' part.  Then, I
configured the package and installed rest of tetex.

 Tetex-base seems to remove these files under configuration, instead
of installing them.  Which causes the rest of tetex to break.

Hope tht helps.


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Question: X on Vobis LeBook Premium

1997-12-01 Thread Paul Massey

Hello,

I recently purchased a notebook (166MHz, Vobis LeBook
Premium). After a bit of fiddling with the partitions
installed I managed to install Linux (Debian 1.3.1).
However, I'm having problems with configuring X (using
xbase-configure).

As far as I can tell (info coming from Win95 Display
Settings), I have the following:

Chip type: Trident 9660/9680 (Win95 reports this but
   a chip tester from the Trident webpages
   says it's a Cyber96xx).
SVGA
Non-interlaced/800x600/60Hz

I've also seen that there's a link on the linux laptop page,
but have not been able to get near it (dead url?). I've
tried quite a few combinations of the various setting, but
none of them seem to be even approximately correct ...

Any suggestions ?

Yours,

Paul Massey.


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Re: TkRat 1.0.5-1 and packages in general

1997-12-01 Thread Martin Bialasinski
On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, John Spence wrote:

> One of the required dependencies for the program tkrat_1.0.5-1.deb is
> the much mentioned libc6.
> 
> Now I know that this isn't a dependancy for nothing but I also know
> that I had this program running under RH4.2 which doesn't have libc6.
> 
> I don't know zip about package building but I assume that if I were to
> build one I'd build it to accomodate the latest versions of required
> libraries to avoid redundancy.  Would this be the rule of thumb for
> package builiding?
> 
To make a debian package you have to compile tkrat. Tkrat needs a libc
for some of its functions. So it has to link against it.
Most developers have libc6-dev, so the resulting packages need libc6 for
running.

You can get the tkrat source from the source/ directory of your debian
mirror and try to make a package for your own, linked against libc5.

get dpkg-dev.deb from hamm. 
get tkrat.{dsc,diff.gz,orig.tar.gz} from the source directory

dpkg-source -x tkrat.dsc
CD into the sourcedir.
./debian/rules binary

Let it work and hope there are no changes which make it compile only with 
libc6.

If it worked:
dpkg -i tkrat.deb  

Ciao,
Martin



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Re: PPP problems

1997-12-01 Thread Martin Bialasinski
On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Ian & Gill Watkins wrote:

> I have been firing up Minicom to dial and log on, then CTRL-AQ to drop
> out of Minicom without reseting the modem (as described in the PPP-
> HOWTO) and then entering a command thus:
> 
> pppd -d -detach /dev/ttyS0 38400 &
> 
> again from the PPP-HOWTO. The additional commands are defined in the PPP
> options file.
> 
Drop the minicom stuff. Use pon for dialing and poff for disconnect.
First edit /etc/ppp.options_out and /etc/ppp.chatscript to match your
needs. Don't forget the debug option.

> The link (same modem, same ISP) works fine under Win95 & WinNTWS. I have 
also now managed to set up a dial-up script with the same result.
> 
> I have checked with my ISP and they are not using PAP or CHAP.
> 
So you use a script in a terminal window on win95 and NT ?
Then edit /etc/ppp.chatscript and use pon. 

If you use X, then you also may want to give xisp.deb a try. Get it from
ftp://134.95.210.54/pub (for a recent version).

Ciao,
Martin


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Re: diald & cached webpages

1997-12-01 Thread Carey Evans
David Stern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


[snip]

>   localhost# dpkg-source -x wwwoffle_1.3a-1.dsc 
> dpkg-source: error: tarfile `./wwwoffle_1.3a.orig.tar.gz' contains 
> object
> (wwwoffle-1.3a/) not in expected directory (wwwoffle-1.3a.orig)

The dpkg from hamm can now use the upstream tarball, which will unpack
to a different place.  You can extract, rename and patch the directory
manaully, then build the package automatically.

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Re: [avi318k1@pn.nettuno.it: Xephem-smotif problems]

1997-12-01 Thread Carey Evans
"James A. Abercromby II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have quite recently upgraded the following pkgs to my Debian 1.3.1
> Linux Box xtet42, xtris, xfig, xcontrib, emacs, xlib6g, xpostitplus,
> lincity etc.  and all the associated/appropriate libs etc. from
> Hamm.

[snip]

> However,  xephem-smotif from bo, would load with the following error msg
> "Can not open edb/YBS.edb: No such file or directory"

Try:

$ ln -s /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults /usr/i486-linuxlibc1/lib/X11

Version 3.0-1 of xephem is still the old Libc5 version, so it wouldn't
make any difference.

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Problem with keyboard

1997-12-01 Thread Witold Grabysz
Dear Friends,
it happened to me to use Polish as my native language. In general we use

Latin alphabet plus some unique
letters (the same do the German and French). It seemed to me during
configuration I set my keyboard to
support Polish signs:

Xkbkeycodes "xfree86"
XkbTypes"default"
XkbCompat   "default"
XkbSymbols  "en_US(pc101)+pl"

however it doesn't work. For example appart from 'a' we have a letter
called (even in English documentation)
'a ogonek' (a with a small tail). It should be evoked by pressing 'a'
together with right Alt. I ran xkeycaps and
saw, that a+right Alt is bound to 'a ogonek', but when I press it (in
terminal window or now in Netscape mail
editor) there is no reaction. Just nothing!

Please give me at least some idea where to look for a culprit.

Witold Grabysz




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Re: Configuring a pcmcia networkcard

1997-12-01 Thread Selim Issever
Hi,..

first of all: ThanX!

]First off I'd recommend cat'ing your /proc/module file and seeing if you
]indeed have an entry for your network card.  
nope,.. doesnt seem so:

elif# cat /proc/modules
pcmem_cs2 0
ds  2 [pcmem_cs] 3
i82365  4 2
pcmcia_core 7 [pcmem_cs ds i82365] 4
serial  8 0
lp  2 0
psaux   1 0
vfat3 0


]Second, I'd use ifconfig
] where devicename is your particular interface (in most
]cases this is eth0) and see if it has any interesting things to say.
hmm,.. eth0 is not existing

]Another thing to consider is this.. there is a file that must be set up
]in the PCMCIA setup that allocates and reserves specific interrupts to
]be used with PCMCIA devices.  You must make sure that the one that is
]being given to your PCMCIA card is free and nothing else is using it.  I
]remember when I set up a Toshiba laptop, I couldn't get either my mouse
]or my ethernet connection working for the longest time.  Until of course
]I went in and edited this particular file and told it NOT to allow
]anything to tie up the interrupt for the ethernet and the built in touch
]pad.
hmm,.. as far as I now understand whats happening in my computer,.. the
computer loads a pc-memory card instaed of the networkcard,.. hmm no idea
why,...
but OK,.. could you tell me, which file I have to edit? and what kind of
syntax it understands?? or where to find some documentary about this?

/usr/doc/pcmcia-cs tells me to edit /etc/pcmcia.conf. Instructions should
be found in the PCMCIA-HOWTO. But where is the howto??

I guess I need (at least) one more "help"-iteration,.. ThanX in advance
Best Regards
Selim


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pcmcia install

1997-12-01 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Hi

I've installed debian for the first time on a new machine, and i
like it al lot (except maybe for the deselect interface :^).

Now i wanted to install it on my notebook at home; the easiest way
would be via my pcmcia network card and nfs; or otherwise via zip
drive.  But i guess debian doesn't do either (i guess i could try
to install debian base from floppies --- duh), while redhat easily
supports pcmcia stuff.

Who should i bother about this?  

Otoh, it should be real easy to support (just compile the pcmcia-cs 
package; install modules and run cardmgr), so perhaps i could have 
a go at it myself --- create a pcmcia install disk, how can i find 
the package that creates debian install images?

greetings,

jan.

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PPP problems

1997-12-01 Thread Ian & Gill Watkins
I am attempting to get PPPD to work from my Debian Linux machine with a
marked lack of success

I have been firing up Minicom to dial and log on, then CTRL-AQ to drop
out of Minicom without reseting the modem (as described in the PPP-
HOWTO) and then entering a command thus:

pppd -d -detach /dev/ttyS0 38400 &

again from the PPP-HOWTO. The additional commands are defined in the PPP
options file.

This is the data I get from the log:

Nov 25 16:12:25 server pppd[140]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0
Nov 25 16:12:25 server pppd[140]: Using interface ppp0
Nov 25 16:12:25 server pppd[140]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0
Nov 25 16:12:25 server pppd[140]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 
   ]
Nov 25 16:12:43 server last message repeated 6 times
Nov 25 16:12:44 server pppd[140]: Modem hangup
Nov 25 16:12:44 server pppd[140]: Connection terminated.
Nov 25 16:12:44 server pppd[140]: Exit.

There is a little modem activity and then the modem drops.

The link (same modem, same ISP) works fine under Win95 & WinNTWS. I have also 
now managed to set up a dial-up script with the same result.

I have checked with my ISP and they are not using PAP or CHAP.

Any ideas? I have also added the noipdefault parameter as well.

Thanks.

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Re: dev for SCSI tape

1997-12-01 Thread Oliver Elphick
Lawrence wrote:
  >Oliver Elphick wrote:
  >> 
  >> Lawrence wrote:
  >>   >What is the likely device name in the /dev directory for a SCSI tape
  >>   >drive? is it /dev/tape?  Anyone using the Seagate Travan SCSI backup?
  >> 
  >> SCSI tape drives are:
  >> crw-rw-rw-   2 root root   9,   0 Feb 19  1997 /dev/st0
  >> crw-rw-rw-   1 root root   9,  96 Feb 19  1997 /dev/st0a
  >> crw-rw-rw-   1 root root   9,  32 Feb 19  1997 /dev/st0l
  >> crw-rw-rw-   1 root root   9,  64 Feb 19  1997 /dev/st0m
  >> 
  >> If you have more than one you can create /dev/st1 and so on
  >> 
  >> The SCSI tapes are assigned to st[0-9] in the order that they are recognis
  >ed
  >> at boot time.
  >
  >What is the meaning of suffix {a,l,m}?

From /usr/src/linux/Documentation/device.txt:
  9 charSCSI tape devices
  0 = /dev/st0  First SCSI tape, mode 0
  1 = /dev/st1  Second SCSI tape, mode 0
  ...
 32 = /dev/st0l First SCSI tape, mode 1
 33 = /dev/st1l Second SCSI tape, mode 1
  ...
 64 = /dev/st0m First SCSI tape, mode 2
 65 = /dev/st1m Second SCSI tape, mode 2
  ...
 96 = /dev/st0a First SCSI tape, mode 3
 97 = /dev/st1a Second SCSI tape, mode 3
  ...
128 = /dev/nst0 First SCSI tape, mode 0, no rewind
129 = /dev/nst1 Second SCSI tape, mode 0, no rewind
  ...
160 = /dev/nst0lFirst SCSI tape, mode 1, no rewind
161 = /dev/nst1lSecond SCSI tape, mode 1, no rewind
  ...
192 = /dev/nst0mFirst SCSI tape, mode 2, no rewind
193 = /dev/nst1mSecond SCSI tape, mode 2, no rewind
  ...
224 = /dev/nst0aFirst SCSI tape, mode 3, no rewind
225 = /dev/nst1aSecond SCSI tape, mode 3, no rewind
  ...

"No rewind" refers to the omission of the default
automatic rewind on device close.  The MTREW or MTOFFL
ioctl()'s can be used to rewind the tape regardless of
the device used to access it.

I can't find any documentation that explains (comprehensibly) what the
modes are.  I believe that l = low density and m = medium density; I have
no idea what a is.  It may be that the tape hardware may not support
the use of these other modes.  I have not tried to use any but the 
default (minor number = {0,128}) with my DDS drive.

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Re: libproc.so problems

1997-12-01 Thread Oliver Elphick
clif smith wrote:
  >Hi,
  >  To begin, I'm a newbie to Linux and this is not the first time I've
  >inquired about this problem.
  >  Simply put, from the time I installed Debian I got the following message;
  >
  >'ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libproc.so (no such file or
  >directory), skipping'
  >
  >  The file is there but whenever I do an 'ldconfig' I get a 'can't open, no
  >such file or directory'. Whenever I try to 'ldconfig' on another library
  >file I get the same message even though I'm not doing 'ldconfig' on
  >'libproc.so'.

libproc.so is a symbolic link to the current version of libproc.so; however
that other file is not present.  That is why you see libproc.so but ldconfig
can't open it.

The libproc shared library is in the package procps.  Either install that or 
delete /usr/lib/libproc.so.

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Re: mailing list/newsgroup loopback?

1997-12-01 Thread Frank Barknecht
Stephen Zander hat gesagt: // Stephen Zander wrote:

> Wintermute wrote:
> > Same problem here.  Only I have been checking my mail constantly today..
> > and I stop for like 1 hour to hop out of X and configure some things,
> > come back, start up Netscape, check my mail..and I've got like 150
> > messages.
> > 
> > Whew...
> 
> My answer was a bit-bucket rule in mailagent.. 'course you've got
> to be running mailagent first (or procmail etc) :)
> 
> 
> Stephen

I have the same problem and I am using procmail here. What do I have to
put in my procmailrc to fix it??

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addendum to "Upgrade Debian. Upgrade install diskettes ?"

1997-12-01 Thread Marc Fleureck
Hi,

System: Debian1.3/Kernel2.0.30 (upgraded from Debian1.2/kernel2.0.27)

It seems that every time i boot from an upgraded rescue floppy and 
run the network setup, my system doesn't initialize the network card 
anymore. It sais: "cardmgr: loading failed. The module symbols (from 
linux 2.0.30) don't match your linux_2.0.30."

I have to note that the new rescue floppy has kernel-image2.0.29 (not 
2.0.30 i have).  Is this the cause ? 

Regards,
Marc


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Upgraded Debian. Upgrade installation diskettes ?

1997-12-01 Thread Marc Fleureck
I have upgraded Debian 1.2 to 1.3 (also upgraded kernel 2.0.27 to 2.0.30).
Should I upgrade the installation diskettes too ? (rescue, boot, 
base-1/4, drivers). Or can I use the old ones ?

Regards,
marc


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Mirror?

1997-12-01 Thread Allen Burns
I have been getting REALLY slow transfer rates on the Debian FTP site (like
0.22k/s) when I ussualy get AT LEAEST around 1.8K/s and seems how I screwed
up and downloaded the wrong stuff I have to mirror most of the msdos-i386
branch to my HD. Does anybody know of any reliable mirorrs? I tired the
ones listed in the welcome msg but they didn't have and *.deb files that I
could find, any help would be appreciative, thanx. Allen


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Re: teTeX packages

1997-12-01 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
> 
> I can't seem to get Debian's teTeX to work at all ("can't find default
> format file" from tex).  But when I downloaded it direct from sunsite,
> it worked fine.  Has anyone had a similar experience?  I suppose I
> could include more (or any, actually) details if requested.
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Did you try to run texhash or texconfig?  If during installation texhash
wasn't run for some reason, this kind of problem can occur.

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MAJOR PROBLEM!

1997-12-01 Thread Allen Burns
I just voited at http://www.slashdot.org and Debian is at 714 and Red Hat
is at 738! Get off your a**es and go vote!


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libproc.so problems

1997-12-01 Thread clif smith
Hi,
  To begin, I'm a newbie to Linux and this is not the first time I've
inquired about this problem.
  Simply put, from the time I installed Debian I got the following message;

'ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libproc.so (no such file or
directory), skipping'

  The file is there but whenever I do an 'ldconfig' I get a 'can't open, no
such file or directory'. Whenever I try to 'ldconfig' on another library
file I get the same message even though I'm not doing 'ldconfig' on
'libproc.so'.
  I'm at a loss as to what this is all about. I've exhausted all other
resources. Everything else seems to be okay, as far as one so new to this
can determine.
  Could I get some input on this, please?
  Thanks,
clif


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HELP: CD install of 1.3.1 with Panasonic 24x

1997-12-01 Thread Albert Hurd
I am trying to install Debian 1.3.1 from CheapBytes disk on a new computer
(and a newbie at Linux) which has a Matshita (Panasonic) CR-585 24x
CDRom. At the point in the install where it tries to access the CDRom, it
halts with the error message: mount: /dev/cdrom is not a valid block
device.
The CDrom was not mounted successfully. I built the rescue and drivers
disks, and installed as many relevant drivers as I could to postpone going
to the CD for as long as possible. My first attempt, to use the harddisk as
suggested in Dale Sheetz's book also did not work. At the point where you
select the partition where Debian Archive resides, it presented me with
only
one option in the list: /dev/hda1, which is my Win95 partition, and halted
a little further on.

Any help would be much appreciated.

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Re: pon permission problems

1997-12-01 Thread Mike Schmitz
On Sun, Nov 30, 1997 at 10:27:47PM -0800, michael wrote:
> The pon command works from the root account but not from the 'michael'
> user account (mine's a single user system).  Michael is a member of
> group pid and dialout.
> 
> When michael executes pon the system issues the following complaint:
> 
> You do not have permissions to access /etc/ppp.chatscript or
> /etc/ppp.options_out
> 
> ls -l on ppp.chatscript:
> 
> -rw---   1 root root  235 Nov 27 11:54
> /etc/ppp.chatscript
> 
> ls -l on ppp.options_out:
> 
> -rw---   1 root root  108 Nov 27 12:01
> /etc/ppp.options_out
> 
> Clearly these files have the wrong permissions or owners.  Which is it?

Make these files mode 640 owner root group dialout.

> 
> PS.  I had installed Netscape Communicator vis dpkg (took a while to get
> the tar file named correctly).  However, I didn't like the setup because
> it wouldn't run as root.  So I deinstalled via dpkg then used the
> netscape install script.  Any problems with that?
> 
> PPS.  I installed the jdk stuff via dpkg as well.  It took a while to
> figure out why Netscape was exiting by itself.  I thought Java was
> included with it, why isn't it and why does it crash without it (because
> I've got Java module support installed in the kernel?)?
> 
> 

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Re: Anti-relaying rules for smail?

1997-12-01 Thread Hamish Moffatt
> On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Remco Blaakmeer wrote:
> > Some guy is relaying a huge lot of spam e-mail via my computer. My
> > computer is normally only used by myself and I do receive a lot of e-mail
> > through several lists, but this guy caused /var/log/smail/logfile to be 41
> > MB (that's right, forty-one MEGABYTES) [1]. Does anyone know how to
> > prevent such actions, apart from blocking smtp traffic from his computer
> > [2]?  I tried mailing his postmaster (using his IP address, not the From:
> > line), but I got a 'message undeliverable' (or something like that) error.
> > 
> > What I would want is a filter that blocks any attempt of sending an e-mail
> > from another host to a user at a third host. I beleive this is called
> > relaying.  The filter should look at the 'rcpt to:' smtp command, not at
> > the 'From:' or 'To:' headers. I know this can be done with sendmail, but
> > how do I do it with smail?

ftp://ftp.bitgate.com/ftp/blackmail

blackmail is a wrapper for smail in inetd which checks for relaying
(other than from an authorised list of sites) and also for particular
known spam sites, and just hangs the connections basically. They usually
give up after that.

However we had a few people complain they couldn't contact us while
we were running it (on our company server) so we removed it.


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a2ps and non-free

1997-12-01 Thread Volker Jahns
I wonder:
why is the a2ps package in the non-free section of the Debian
distribution? (Looking at their website it seems that they are
distributing their software under GPL!)

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pon permission problems

1997-12-01 Thread michael
The pon command works from the root account but not from the 'michael'
user account (mine's a single user system).  Michael is a member of
group pid and dialout.

When michael executes pon the system issues the following complaint:

You do not have permissions to access /etc/ppp.chatscript or
/etc/ppp.options_out

ls -l on ppp.chatscript:

-rw---   1 root root  235 Nov 27 11:54
/etc/ppp.chatscript

ls -l on ppp.options_out:

-rw---   1 root root  108 Nov 27 12:01
/etc/ppp.options_out

Clearly these files have the wrong permissions or owners.  Which is it?

PS.  I had installed Netscape Communicator vis dpkg (took a while to get
the tar file named correctly).  However, I didn't like the setup because
it wouldn't run as root.  So I deinstalled via dpkg then used the
netscape install script.  Any problems with that?

PPS.  I installed the jdk stuff via dpkg as well.  It took a while to
figure out why Netscape was exiting by itself.  I thought Java was
included with it, why isn't it and why does it crash without it (because
I've got Java module support installed in the kernel?)?


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Re: [Off Topic] Dumb Perl Question...

1997-12-01 Thread Stephen Zander
Adam Shand wrote:
> How do I untaint the glob, or better yet access it so that it's not
> tainted to start with (if that's possible)? The files I'm accessing are
> safe as only root can write to them, but I'd like to do this the 'right
> way'.
> 
> I can't find anything relevant to this in the docs/web/books (doubtless
> I'm just looking in the wrong places) and it's starting to get
> irritating :)

perldoc perlsec is your friend! :)

Bottom line is that globs are *always* tainted, as is anything that
relies on shell processing (csh being how globbing is done).

Try using File::Find, that should let you get data in an untainted manner.

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Re: mailing list/newsgroup loopback?

1997-12-01 Thread Stephen Zander
Wintermute wrote:
> Same problem here.  Only I have been checking my mail constantly today..
> and I stop for like 1 hour to hop out of X and configure some things,
> come back, start up Netscape, check my mail..and I've got like 150
> messages.
> 
> Whew...

My answer was a bit-bucket rule in mailagent.. 'course you've got
to be running mailagent first (or procmail etc) :)


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Re: Anti-relaying rules for smail?

1997-12-01 Thread Daniel Martin
On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Remco Blaakmeer wrote:

> Some guy is relaying a huge lot of spam e-mail via my computer. My
> computer is normally only used by myself and I do receive a lot of e-mail
> through several lists, but this guy caused /var/log/smail/logfile to be 41
> MB (that's right, forty-one MEGABYTES) [1]. Does anyone know how to
> prevent such actions, apart from blocking smtp traffic from his computer
> [2]?  I tried mailing his postmaster (using his IP address, not the From:
> line), but I got a 'message undeliverable' (or something like that) error.
> 
> What I would want is a filter that blocks any attempt of sending an e-mail
> from another host to a user at a third host. I beleive this is called
> relaying.  The filter should look at the 'rcpt to:' smtp command, not at
> the 'From:' or 'To:' headers. I know this can be done with sendmail, but
> how do I do it with smail?
> 
> Remco
> 
> [1] this file is rotated once a day like on any default Debian system
> 
> [2] this doesn't prevent others from doing the same trick
> 

Well, I have a solution; however, be warned that I haven't tested this,
so...:

At the top of your /etc/smail/routers file, add:
match_relaying:
driver=queryprogram,
transport=relay_trns;
cmd="/usr/bin/test X${if origin:remote f} = Xf"

Then, in your /etc/smail/transports file, add:
relay_trns:
driver=appendfile; file=/dev/null

This will then throw away all of the relayed messages.

You may also want to add the 'rfc931' option to whatever /etc/hosts.allow
line it is that accepts smtp connections.  Not that the spammer is likely
to be running an identd, but just in case...

DANIEL MARTIN


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Re: cu connects to PnP modem ok, but no response for AT

1997-12-01 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Nov 30, 1997 at 09:29:00PM -0600, Charles Read wrote:
> In the BIOS, I turn the 'PnP OS' option off.
> In the 'PCI peripherals' section of the BIOS,
> I disable the two 'Onboard serial devices'
> (as these two 9-pin ports are currently unused).
> 
> When I look into Win95, I look at the settings
> for my modem and find that IRQ 4 is used for
> address 0x3f8, with DMAs 7, 5 active.
> 
> Then, I go to Linux, set up the same for /dev/ttyS1 
> through 'setserial' and the 'isapnp' tools.  When I
> use 'cu' to connect to the modem, I go to
> another xterm and type 'cat /proc/interrupts'
> to see what's going on with IRQ 4.
> 
> Well, IRQ 4 fires off exactly 0 times, according
> to /proc/interrupts.  Moreover, the modem never
> responds to ATE1 or anything else.

Well, a couple of things. Firstly, a port at 0x3f8
is generally COM1 under DOS/Windows, which is /dev/ttyS0
on Linux.

Also, since you have disabled PnP in your BIOS,
you need to use isapnptools to configure the modem
under Linux. Although you have turned off PnP in the BIOS,
Win95 will still use PnP to configure the modem.

Or jumper the modem as non-PnP if that's possible; might be more convenient.


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TkRat 1.0.5-1 and packages in general

1997-12-01 Thread John Spence
One of the required dependencies for the program tkrat_1.0.5-1.deb is
the much mentioned libc6.

Now I know that this isn't a dependancy for nothing but I also know
that I had this program running under RH4.2 which doesn't have libc6.

I don't know zip about package building but I assume that if I were to
build one I'd build it to accomodate the latest versions of required
libraries to avoid redundancy.  Would this be the rule of thumb for
package builiding?


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Re: cu connects to PnP modem ok, but no response for AT

1997-12-01 Thread Charles Read
In the BIOS, I turn the 'PnP OS' option off.
In the 'PCI peripherals' section of the BIOS,
I disable the two 'Onboard serial devices'
(as these two 9-pin ports are currently unused).

When I look into Win95, I look at the settings
for my modem and find that IRQ 4 is used for
address 0x3f8, with DMAs 7, 5 active.

Then, I go to Linux, set up the same for /dev/ttyS1 
through 'setserial' and the 'isapnp' tools.  When I
use 'cu' to connect to the modem, I go to
another xterm and type 'cat /proc/interrupts'
to see what's going on with IRQ 4.

Well, IRQ 4 fires off exactly 0 times, according
to /proc/interrupts.  Moreover, the modem never
responds to ATE1 or anything else.

I'm really at my wit's end on this one.  But other
people with PnP modems are reporting working
setups.  Sigh.

What's the solution?

-c

Original Message Follows
From: Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "linux.debian.user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: cu connects to PnP modem ok, but no response for AT
Date: 27 Nov 97 12:34:32 GMT

On Wed, Nov 26, 1997 at 02:31:48PM +0500, Igor Grobman wrote:
> > # cu --speed 115200 --line /dev/ttyS1
> > Connected
> > [here I type "at&f", which is not echoed]
> > cu: write:  I/O error
> > Disconnected
> > #
> 
> Looks like your modem is not really detected by linux.  The 
"connected" 
> message from cu only means that it was able to access /dev/ttyS1 
device, but 
> the fact that your commands are not echoed means your modem is not 
detected.  
> Most pnp modems need isapnptools to work, unless there is a way to get 
it back 
> into "legacy" mode. Install isapnptools package, and take a look at 
> /usr/doc/isapnptools/INSTALL.

Could also be several things, like echo is disabled (favourite of
Windows) (ATE1 to enable it), IRQ conflicts, etc. If the BIOS
set up the PnP card, it could well be an IRQ conflict because
the BIOS has absolutely no idea what IRQs the legacy hardware is using
unless you've configured it correctly.


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HotJava Internet browser

1997-12-01 Thread Oz Dror
Is there a HotJava based Internet browser
that can run under linux with java kernel support
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Anti-relaying rules for smail?

1997-12-01 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
Hi,

Some guy is relaying a huge lot of spam e-mail via my computer. My
computer is normally only used by myself and I do receive a lot of e-mail
through several lists, but this guy caused /var/log/smail/logfile to be 41
MB (that's right, forty-one MEGABYTES) [1]. Does anyone know how to
prevent such actions, apart from blocking smtp traffic from his computer
[2]?  I tried mailing his postmaster (using his IP address, not the From:
line), but I got a 'message undeliverable' (or something like that) error.

What I would want is a filter that blocks any attempt of sending an e-mail
from another host to a user at a third host. I beleive this is called
relaying.  The filter should look at the 'rcpt to:' smtp command, not at
the 'From:' or 'To:' headers. I know this can be done with sendmail, but
how do I do it with smail?

Remco

[1] this file is rotated once a day like on any default Debian system

[2] this doesn't prevent others from doing the same trick


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Re: Debian GNU/Linux Logo chosen

1997-12-01 Thread Tommy Lakofski
On 1 Dec 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> including SCO and so on. We're going to have to get a lot farther with 86open
> before that happens.

Thought it would be awhile... Hurd looks like it has some neat technology,
though.

Thomas.


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Re: Debian GNU/Linux Logo chosen

1997-12-01 Thread bruce
From: Martin Bialasinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Highest Score:
> Page v12   Debian Logo Draft: eb07   Yes 67% (140)  No  32% (68)

Yes, indeed that has the highest score. Unfortunately, the criteria
for choosing it were not quite right. We can't register it as a
trademark and it's too easily confused with other similar products.
This is really important!

> Was the logo choice one of the cases which required the final 
> decision of the project leader?

I submitted a number of concepts for logos to debian-publicity.
Nobody was interested in drawing them. So I let the contest run a while,
to see if anything good would come up. After some time, I got a commercial
artist to draw the Open Hardware logo, and the fellow who was running the
logo contest commented on the excellent results we got and we talked about
getting a commercial artist for the Debian logo too. Many people complained
to me that a choice was overdue, and I eventually took a last look before
committing $$$ for a logo from a commercial artist and found one that was
trademark-able and looked good.

> Please don't mind me chosing logo eb07 for representing debian on my site.

You've got Tux, we've got Deb. They are both Penguins.

> The decision not to emphasise the liunx penguin that much may be
> politically correct (regarding that it is debian GNU/Linux), but I really
> like that cute littly guy.

Huh? There's no picture of a gnu in that logo. There _is_ a penguin.
If we do a system for hurd, we can draw a gnu in outline and call him
"Ian".

Bruce


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Re: allow mount to normal user

1997-12-01 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Anand Kumria wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Nov 1997, Benoit Joly wrote:
> 
> > i want to allow normal user to use mount for floppy and cdrom.
> > because i dont want to run apps in root account...
> > what should i do.
> 
> One of the options you can specify to mount is the 'user' option which
> allows ordinary users to mount a filesystem. Check 'man 8 mount' for
> further details.

Yes, but there is more to this. The disk, floppy and cdrom devices (I mean
the /dev/* files for them) have permissions 0660 on a default Debian
system, so that normal users can't access them. The solution to this is
_not_ to make the permissions 0666, but to make the user a member of the
group that owns the device, i.e.

# adduser user1 floppy

if you want the user with username 'user1' to be able to access the floppy
devices.

Remco


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Re: xface

1997-12-01 Thread bruce
Oh, never mind. I thought this was addressed to me. I'll pull back into
my burrow now.

Bruce


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Re: xface

1997-12-01 Thread bruce
It's probably hair. I have quite a lot of it.

Bruce


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Re: starnge behavior of the list

1997-12-01 Thread Steve Kostecke
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Gertzfield) writes:
> I've gotten them all twice today as well -- from what seems to be a
> usenet <-> debian-user gateway somewhere in Britain.

Looks to me like the gateway operator overlooked the Distribution: header in
his news/mail gateway.  This weekend I completed setting up the Newsgate
package so I've had the (dis)pleasure of getting it all to work.

What I found (as usual the docs are just a bit opaque) is that, when
gatewaying mail to news you can specify a distribution header.  I do it
like this in my .procmailrc (note the -d switch):

:0:
* ^TOdebian-user
| /usr/bin/mail2news -n debian.user -d local -x internet



Then, to keep your news2mail gateway from redistributing the messages that
have arrived through your mail2news gateway, you exclude that particular 
distribution like this (from my cnews /etc/news/sys file):

internet:debian.user/all,!local::news2mail debian-user@lists.debian.org

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Re: Debian GNU/Linux Logo chosen

1997-12-01 Thread bruce
From: Tommy Lakofski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On a bit of a tangent, how ready is the Hurd to replace the Linux kernel?

I am not one of the people testing it. RMS is still running Debian on his
laptop :-)

What I would hope is that the HURD would support the 86open standard
(essentially GNU LIBC with a cleaner substitute for ioctl()), and that
a large number of Debian binary packages would run on all 86open platforms,
including SCO and so on. We're going to have to get a lot farther with 86open
before that happens.

Thanks

Bruce


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Re: Debian GNU/Linux Logo chosen

1997-12-01 Thread Martin Bialasinski
On Sun, 30 Nov 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:

> We've been having a logo contest for a long time. It failed to generate
> a consensus on a logo for the project. It got to the point where people
> were clamoring for me to hire a commercial artist and get the job done.
> I went over the candidates in the logo contest, and found one that was
> probably as good as what I would have gotten after spending money on a
> commercial artist. The logo I chose is
> 
Hmm,

Highest Score:

 Page v12   Debian Logo Draft: eb07   Yes 67% (140)  No  32% (68)

Bruce's choice:

 Page v9Debian Logo Draft: si02   Yes 32% (47)   No  67% (96) 


It didn't even make it boyond the ninth page. and I have seen governments
with less then 67% "yes" votes.

So 67% is no consens? A while back, there was a 99.9% "consens" in voting
for the communistic partys, I don't think the stake is that high any more.

Was the logo choice one of the cases which required the final 
decision of the project leader?

Now that the choice is made and announced, there is no way back any more.

Please don't mind me chosing logo eb07 for representing debian on my site.
The decision not to emphasise the liunx penguin that much may be
politically correct (regarding that it is debian GNU/Linux), but I really
like that cute littly guy.

Ciao,
Martin


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xface

1997-12-01 Thread David Stern
Hi,

What is that on your head?! :-)  

(I'm looking at your xface)

David



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Re: xfs question

1997-12-01 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Fri, 28 Nov 1997, Tommy Lakofski wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> If I put `start-xfs' in /etc/X11/config, the font server runs (can see it
> with ps).  I can't tell, though, if X is using the server...  Are there
> any additional steps apart from the one change in /etc/X11/config?

Yes, there are. You have to tell the server to use the font server at port
7100 at the localhost (if you haven't changed the default port number).

Edit /etc/X11/XF86Config . In the section "Files", add a line

FontPath   "tcp/localhost:7100"

and remove all other "FontPath" lines (or place a comment character (#) 
in front of them). Restart X and the X server will use the font server.
You can check the server's output on stdout (or is it stderr?) to see if
it is really using the font server. If you use startx to start X, this is
on the console you were when you typed "startx", if you use xdm to start X
it is in /var/log/xdm-errors.

Remco


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Re: XEmacs 19.16 - "Info file xemacs does not exist"

1997-12-01 Thread bn711
Argh, sorry to answer my own post - I'd recently migrated my
installation to another hard drive and I didn't run makedev to fix the
/dev special files; for some reason once I did that, XEmacs started to
work fine... I have no idea why...




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Re: Debian GNU/Linux Logo chosen

1997-12-01 Thread Tommy Lakofski
On Sun, 30 Nov 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:

> This is the logo of "Debian GNU/Linux". Any future Debian system we do with
> the Hurd would obviously have a different logo. We could still use a logo
> for Software in the Public Interest.

On a bit of a tangent, how ready is the Hurd to replace the Linux kernel?
There hasn't been much recent information at www.gnu.org...  I guess
there'll also be questions of whether to replace the Linux kernel, or
create a new Debian distribution around Hurd.  I guess it's a bit early to
wonder about that kind of detail. ;)

 nice logo, btw

TL


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