Networking loading on boot before PCMCIA services for network card

1998-01-11 Thread Asher Haig
I have a problem when my system boots where networking loads before the 
PCMCIA services that are needed to drive the network card. As a result, I 
have to run /etc/init.d/network whenever I boot before networking will 
work. 

Anyone have any idea why this might happen? The proper rc.* files are all 
there, as far as I can tell

TIA

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Re: serial or PS/2 mouse

1998-01-11 Thread David Z. Maze

rodrigue-joe  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
r> I am putting together a Linux system.  Is there a reason why I
r> should prefer a serial mouse over a PS/2 mouse or vice versa?  I
r> will get a Logitech trackball.  Thanks.

A PS/2 mouse doesn't use up a serial port.  That's the only
appreciable difference.  IIRC, my Logitech trackball came with a PS/2
connector and an adaptor to hook up to a serial port, so I could
change it to a serial mouse if I really wanted.

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Re: Two Net Cards problem

1998-01-11 Thread Rob
At 12:45 PM 1/11/98 -0500, you wrote:
>On Sun, 11 Jan 1998, Rob wrote:
>
>> blue# route
>> Kernel IP routing table
>> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
Iface
>> 195.44.34.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  01
eth0
>> 192.168.0.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  02
eth1
>> 127.0.0.0   *   255.0.0.0   U 0  02 lo
>> default 195.44.34.1 0.0.0.0 UG1  01
eth0
>
>If you change the default route, I'll be this will either fix or reverse
>the problem.  You system will send packets bound for the internet over
>eth0 according to this setup, but I don't know if it's smart enough to
>send packets bound for 194.44.34.* over eth0 if you change the default.
>

Hi there.  Thanks for the reply.

I tried changing the default route.. still I can ping other stuff on the
192.168.0.* network (the local stuff) and still nothing on the internet,
nor 195.44.34.1 (which I know is there and responds to pings!)  BAsically,
it had no effect.. :-(


>I'd also suggest the ethernet HOWTO:
>   3.2.  Using More than one Ethernet Card per Machine

yep.. read that, was trying to do that when I realised that it had found
both cards anyway.  Maybe because one's a Lance and one's an NE card; I dunno.

I did read in the hardware compatibility how-to, however, that the NI6510
is only semi-supported, although hamm seems quite happy with it.  I have
had it as the only card, linked to the local network instead of the
internet, and it worked perfectly.  I have also had both cards in place,
and swapped over the config, and it worked.  So I know the card is
basically OK.  The only difference between the internet use and the local
use is the local network is coax, and the cable modem needs a RJ45.  But
the (dos based) setup utility tells me it's set to "Auto detect" anyway..

>I bet you could have kept eth0 like it was with some lilo options, but
>can't guarantee this since I'm not really an expert in these (both lilo
>and multiple ethernets) areas.
>
>HTH,
>Brandon
>

Thanks again for the response.

Rob.



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Re: Changing video modes on fly?

1998-01-11 Thread Luke Chao
> Is there a way to change the text video mode (say, from 80x25 to 80x50),
> on the fly?

Yes, svgatextmode does this.  I'm currently running 100x37 text mode; it's
quite nice...

> Also, sometimes when a program that uses the svgalibs crashes, it
> scrambles the screen. reset doesn't fix the mode, is there another program
> to completely reset the screen?

I believe there are utilities in the mentioned package that do this.

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Re: Changing video modes on fly?

1998-01-11 Thread Alex Yukhimets
> Is there a way to change the text video mode (say, from 80x25 to 80x50),
> on the fly?

Try "svgatextmode" package.

Alex Y.

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Re: where is killall? (hamm)

1998-01-11 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, 11 Jan 1998, Scott K. Ellis wrote:

> On 11 Jan 1998, Joerg Plate wrote:
> 
> > 1> dpkg -S killall
> > sysvinit: /usr/man/man8/killall5.8.gz
> > sysvinit: /sbin/killall5
> > 
> > ii  sysvinit2.73-2 System-V like init.
> > 
> > Maybe another package?
> 
> Moved from procps to psutils by the upstream source.  psutils is stuck in
> incoming.

psmisc, actually.  still stuck in incoming.

$ dpkg -s psmisc
Package: psmisc
Status: install ok installed
Installed-Size: 61
Maintainer: Craig Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Version: 16-1
Depends: libc6, ncurses3.4
Description: Utilities that use the proc filesystem
 This package contains three little utilities that use the proc FS:
 .
 fuser identifies processes using files (similar to Sun's or SGI's fuser)
 killall   kills processes by name, e.g. killall -HUP named
 pstreeshows the currently running processes as a tree

craig

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Changing video modes on fly?

1998-01-11 Thread Tim Thomson
Hi,
Is there a way to change the text video mode (say, from 80x25 to 80x50),
on the fly?
I prefer 80x25 for most things but it would be handy to change the
resolution for somethings - without rebooting!

Also, sometimes when a program that uses the svgalibs crashes, it
scrambles the screen. reset doesn't fix the mode, is there another program
to completely reset the screen?

Thanks for any help,

Tim.

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serial or PS/2 mouse

1998-01-11 Thread rodrigue-joe
I am putting together a Linux system.  Is there a reason why I should prefer
a serial mouse over a PS/2 mouse or vice versa?  I will get a Logitech
trackball.  Thanks.


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Re: Package Installation....

1998-01-11 Thread Timothy M. Hospedales
I had been installing the StarOffice3.1 deb package as root, so I tried to
redoo it as a regular user, but dpkg said I needed superuser priviliges.So,
I tried untarring the tarballs manually according to the mini-howto, but I ran
into the same Server Crash no 11 problem when I tried to do the setup script.
I was wondering if it could be my libc5 or xpm, ( I have libc 5.4.38 (the newest
on debian.org, unstable/base) and xpm4.7 3.4j-0.5), but the FAQsaid that you 
get a
specific error message if your libc5 isn't good enough; which I didn't get, so I
doubt it.
Did you have to do anything special to get your manually untarred 3.1 to 
work?

Timothy

PS - This is very depressing, this is the first thing i've been trying to do 
under
linux that hasn't worked.
I think I'll go get version 4 just to see if it works. :).

> Error no. 11 is a subject for a thesis, but the jist of it is that
> memory is trying to be accessed which is not properly provided for.
> This can be the result of a number of things such as bad code,
> overclocked processors, and it may even be intentional.  (Because I
> doubt you want to become a developer right now, I'll skip the debugging
> hoopla, although ideally that would be a Good Thing.)  One reason it
> may be intentional is that one cannot install staroffice as root--any
> attempt to do so will intentionally dump core.  The reason is that like
> some other programs which are intended to be networked, it is
> considered insecure to give superuser status to apps which could be
> heisted by a hacker.  There are several ways this can occur, I believe
> one such type of attack is called buffer flow overrun, which is
> essentially what it sounds like.  Anyway, make sure you're NOT root and
> see if that helps.
>
> > This time I ran the script, and it crashed the X-Server again with the same
> > error, but the script didn't give any error messages.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> > Thanks!
> > Timothy
>
> Remember that while I do have a functional staroffice3.1 installation,
> I haven't used the .deb myself.  Before you criticize me for
> recommending that, let me explain: I spent FIVE MONTHS (no joke) trying
> to get staroffice to install using manual tarball and rpm methods, and
> finally I got a working installation.  Then I installed Debian, and at
> about the same time I started hearing reports that the .deb script
> worked very well.  Since that time (several months) I've not heard a
> single report of any difficulty, thus my recommendation. Meanwhile, my
> StarOffice installation is on /opt which I merely set in /etc/fstab to
> be booted automatically, so I just copied some user configuration files
> with filerunner from my old installation, and I was ready to go.
>
> Also remember that any large application with static motif libraries
> will likely have a performance impediment--it's not terrible with
> staroffice, but is noticeable. Version 4.0 is not linked against motif,
> and the performance is much improved.  Also, the 4.0 installation is
> wizardly simple, fast, smooth, and flexible.  Also, version 4.0 has
> nicer appearing fonts.  In my opinion, version 4.0 is worth waiting
> three weeks for.
>
> I suspect that any further questions regarding this particular case
> will exceed by ability to knowledgably respond, so my recommendation
> would be to accomplish what you can with what I've given you and then
> post the list for soem more qualified help.  But if I can be of any
> real help, don't hesitate to ask.
>
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Re: Interrupts and serial ports

1998-01-11 Thread dg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

On Sun, 11 Jan 1998, Dan Hugo wrote:

> I was looking through /etc/rc.boot/0setserial to see how everything is
> configured, and I noticed that in the manual configuration section, it
> attempts to setup the "COM1/3" and "COM2/4" ports to irq's 4 and 3,
> respectively.  I've read the howto's and the docs that came with the
> card, and everything is quite clear... "One serial port, one interrups."
> 
> My question-- does Linux support shared serial port interrupts in any
> way?
> 
> The 0setserial file confused me a bit on this.

Hi Dan!

0setserial confused me to. But after all I've figuered out, that linux (on
my machine) does NOT support 2 serials on the same interupt. What happens
is, that they both are not useable. I have set the jumpers on my ... hmmm
... let me look ... AdLib ISA POWER 221 card (which has 2 serial, 2
parallel and 1 game port) to have the two extra serials as /dev/ttyS2 and
/dev/ttyS3 (COM3: and COM4:) with interupts 11 and 12. And I have edited
the 0setserial file as shown below:

-  /etc/rc.boot/0setserial --- [snip] -
...

#
# The typical user will only have 2 serial ports. To try and minimise
# problems, all other configurations have been commented out!
#
${SETSERIAL} -b /dev/ttyS2 ${AUTO_IRQ} skip_test autoconfig ${STD_FLAGS}
${SETSERIAL} -b /dev/ttyS3 ${AUTO_IRQ} skip_test autoconfig ${STD_FLAGS}

...
-  /etc/rc.boot/0setserial --- [snap] -

As you can see, I have taken the '#' out. That's all.

Try it, and mail me, if you need further help!

Bye

Daniel

P.S. The two-serials-on-one-interupt-solution works fine with DOS and
systems, that can only access one port at a time. But I had problems with
Windows and Linux. My configuration was ttyS0 = modem and ttyS2 = terminal
(local attached Psion S3a) and I couldn't get this to work with both on
the same interupt. 

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emacs, X, and Alt key

1998-01-11 Thread Thomas E. Vaughan

I just installed Debian 1.3.1 on my Pentium-133 machine.

I used dselect's FTP mode to install emacs-19.34, X, and AfterStep.
My problem is that *neither* `Alt' key is being interpreted as `Meta'
by emacs.  AfterStep's `Alt-Tab' combination works well enough to switch
between windows.

I much prefer `Alt-x' to `Esc-x' as a means of entering an emacs command.
But the `Alt' key is not functioning as `Meta'.  Has anyone else seen this
behavior?  Surely it should not be the default behavior, but I have done
very little customization and am inclined to suspect that it is.  Yuck.
I would appreciate any assistance.

Thanks.

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Re: netscape & acroread plugin?

1998-01-11 Thread Steve Hsieh

On Sun, 11 Jan 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Sun, 11 Jan 1998, Steve Hsieh wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone have netscape & the acroread plugin working together?  On my
> > setup, when you try to open a pdf file on the web, acroread will die as
> > soon as the splash screen comes up, leaving netscape with the message "an
> > error occured" or something not too useful of a message.  Essentially, it
> > appears that acroread isn't waiting for the data to stream in on the
> > network (unable to open the data pipe?).
> 
> Works here, from my .mailcap:
> #mailcap entry added by Netscape Helper
> application/pdf;/usr/local/bin/acroread %s
> 
> Don't think I did anything special.


Thanks for responding. At the end, I was able to get acorread to work
properly as a helper app, as you have done.  But the problem I'm having is
with the inline plugin -- it's not very stable and tends to stop very
early on in the loading process, giving me all kinds of errors, especially
if you move the page or click on the netscape window before it is done
loading. I may have to settle with running acroread as a helper app... 




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Re: where is killall? (hamm)

1998-01-11 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On 11 Jan 1998, Joerg Plate wrote:

> 
> 1> dpkg -S killall
> sysvinit: /usr/man/man8/killall5.8.gz
> sysvinit: /sbin/killall5
> 
> ii  sysvinit2.73-2 System-V like init.
> 
> Maybe another package?

Moved from procps to psutils by the upstream source.  psutils is stuck in
incoming.


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Re: Debian and Windoze 95

1998-01-11 Thread Martin Schulze
On Sun, Jan 11, 1998 at 10:08:09PM +0200, Catalin Popescu wrote:
> A friend of mine has a hard-disk of 1.2Gb with 2 partions: /dev/hda1, 
> /dev/hda2.
> 
> On /dev/hda1 he has Win'95. Is there any problems with booting if I help 
> him to insatll Debian 1.3.1 on /dev/hda2 and try to boot it with loadlin.

I'd suggest you use lilo instead of loadlin.

I'd also suggest to split /dev/hda2 into a 64MB hda2 and hda3 for
the system.

After that you should install lilo with a similar configuration like:

boot=/dev/hda3

or

boot=/dev/hda if you're using MBR

root=/dev/hda3
compact
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
vga=2
delay=10
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.29
  label=Linux
  alias=l
  read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.29.works
  label=works
  read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.29.debian
  label=old
  read-only
other=/dev/hda1
  label=lose
  alias=w

Regards

Joey

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Re: pgp and elm

1998-01-11 Thread Alex Yukhimets
> find /usr/bin/pgp.  Now I have pointed dselect both at ftp.debian.org
> and at ftp.de.debian.org (which I thought was outside the U.S.), but I
> found no package that would give me a pgp executable usable by elm.
> 
> What is the solution?  It seems a bit strange to provide a package that
> is broken.

Please read ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.pgp

Thanks.

Alex Y.
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Re: Dosemu lredir problem

1998-01-11 Thread john
Marcus writes:
> Yes, this is true. Lredir does only work with "real" dos, either from IBM
> or Microsoft.

Does it not work with OpenDOS?
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Wmaker (hamm) and menu pkg.

1998-01-11 Thread Damir J. Naden
I'm having a bit of a problem with the 'automagically' generated menus
for the WindowMaker in hamm dist. I'd like to have slrn and mutt running
under rxvt rather than default xterm window. My /etc/X11/wmaker/menu.hook
starts with the warning :"Do not edit this file..", so my question is:
will I break something (like future updates) if I change xterm's with rxvt
entries for mutt, slrn and ftp and telnet?

Thanks

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Re: Scanner

1998-01-11 Thread Pure Energy
On 9 Jan 1998, Ben Gertzfield wrote:
> > "William" == William R Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> William> I have a Tamarack (sp?) SCSI-based "TWAIN compliant"
> William> scanner and would like to use it under Linux.  Of course
> William> it only came with Windoze drivers... Is there (preferably
> William> Debianized) software for Linux that would talk to it?
> 
> TWAIN is a joke. All "TWAIN compliant" means is that it comes with
> drivers for Windows.
> 
> Check out SANE -- there's a Debian package of it. It may support your
> scanner (since it's a SCSI scanner, if your SCSI card recognizes it as
> such, it's most likely supported in SANE.)
> 
> SANE can scan directly into GIMP (the GNU Image Manipulation Program)
> for touchups and saving into your favorite format!

I have a Scantastic scanner which uses the "TWAIN compliant"
drivers. This scanner doesn't have a SCSI interface but an ISA interface
card. Does the Sane drivers/software detect ISA or only SCSI? 

With the growing popularity of the "cheaper" scanners (199.99 and
less) which use these "TWAIN compliant" drivers i would think that
something would be designed to use them in the Linux community.
 


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Re: patch for man command

1998-01-11 Thread fpolacco
On 10 Jan, Maurizio Marini wrote:
> Hi,
> i've installed debian 1.3 by
> cd availeble on various zines.

It's a problem entered because of the "last minute" upgrade before
burning the PLUTO CD (which has been copied by some magazines).
That version of man-db has been modifyed to work with the new pager
policy, but the CD still has the old more and less packages.

> someone knows how to patch the command man?
> if hi enter :
>   #set PAGER less; export PAGER
> i get this error:
> sh: exec: pager: not found

add

PAGER=/usr/bin/less; export PAGER

to /etc/profile
or 

set PAGER /usr/bin/less

to /etc/csh.login

If you don't have root access, you can do the same on your HOME dir
with files .profile and .login

Fabrizio
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elm and sendmail background delivery mode

1998-01-11 Thread Thomas E. Vaughan

I have just installed Debian 1.3.1 on my Pentium-133 machine.

I have used dselect's FTP method to install the elm and sendmail packages.
I have noticed that when I send a message with elm, elm is blocked
until the message is actually delivered.  This is annoying.  I checked
the sendmail.cf file, and the default delivery mode for sendmail is
`background'.  So either there is something else that would cause sendmail
to delivery in interactive mode, or elm is forcing sendmail to deliver
in interactive mode.  Has anyone else noticed this.  I would like to
have elm use sendmail in background delivery mode.

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pgp and elm

1998-01-11 Thread Thomas E. Vaughan

I have recently installed Debian 1.3.1 on my Pentium-133 machine.

I have used dselect to install via FTP the elm package.  I am very
familiar with elm, but the standard Debian elm package appears to
be modified to support PGP.  What bothers me is that occasionally a
message on the debian-user mailing list appears to have some form of PGP
encoding that renders the message unreadable by elm because elm can't
find /usr/bin/pgp.  Now I have pointed dselect both at ftp.debian.org
and at ftp.de.debian.org (which I thought was outside the U.S.), but I
found no package that would give me a pgp executable usable by elm.

What is the solution?  It seems a bit strange to provide a package that
is broken.

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mpeg_play and libc_4

1998-01-11 Thread Thomas E. Vaughan

I have recently installed Debian 1.3.1 on my Pentium-133 machine.

I was able to install the ucbmpeg_play package with dselect, but when
I tried to run it, I got an error like "can't find libm.so.4".  I installed
the libc_4 package, and mpeg_play worked.

Should dselect have allowed me to install mpeg_play without libc_4?

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where is killall? (hamm)

1998-01-11 Thread Joerg Plate

1> dpkg -S killall
sysvinit: /usr/man/man8/killall5.8.gz
sysvinit: /sbin/killall5

ii  sysvinit2.73-2 System-V like init.

Maybe another package?

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Re: Netscape debianized

1998-01-11 Thread John Spence
On Sun, Jan 11, 1998 at 10:09:07PM +0200, Catalin Popescu wrote:

> Does it exist a debianized Netscape? If not, how am I supposed to install 
> it? under /usr/local/bin ?

There is an installer package for bo (Debian 1.3.1) called
netscape_3.01-4.deb
this will be on your CD if you have one.

It manages to install this file:
netscape-v301-export.x86-unknown-linux-elf.tar.gz
which should be available at Netscape's site

The executable produced goes into:
/usr/X11R6/bin/netscape


I've been using this without any worries for a few weeks now.


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Re: Netscape debianized

1998-01-11 Thread Damir J. Naden
Catalin Popescu wrote:
> 
> Does it exist a debianized Netscape? If not, how am I supposed to install
> it? under /usr/local/bin ?
> 
> Thanks,

There is a netscape4_4.0-6.deb *install* script -you still have to fetch
the communicator tarball from the ftp.netscape.com. This script is very
usefull if your system is a hamm (libc6) based, since it will predepend
on some other libc5-based libraries, and it'll avoid lots of headache

The script is in the debian/hamm/contrib/binary-i386/web directory...

HTH
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Re: Ghostscript & Epson Stylus COLOR 500

1998-01-11 Thread Trevor Barrie
On Fri, 9 Jan 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I'm just working a bit with ghostscript and just can't figure out how to
> make it print in my Epson Stylus COLOR 500.

Alan Williams has put up a web-page on just this subject; it's at
www.pe.net/~williams/Stylus/Stlyus.html
The information there was sufficient to get my system working.

> I'm using Ghostscript 3.33 (package gs_3.33-5 of bo) and the following
> command line:

You may need to upgrade to version 4.


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Re: Netscape debianized

1998-01-11 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.
>Does it exist a debianized Netscape? If not, how am I supposed to install 
>it? under /usr/local/bin ?

you're supposed to put the netscape .tgz in /tmp, and use the debian netscape 
package to install it.

rick


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Netscape debianized

1998-01-11 Thread Catalin Popescu
Does it exist a debianized Netscape? If not, how am I supposed to install 
it? under /usr/local/bin ?

Thanks,

Catalin Popescu


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Re: Ghostscript & Epson Stylus COLOR 500

1998-01-11 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> 
> 
> Hi all!
> 
> I'm just working a bit with ghostscript and just can't figure out how to
> make it print in my Epson Stylus COLOR 500.
> 
> I'm using Ghostscript 3.33 (package gs_3.33-5 of bo) and the following
> command line:
> 
> $ gs -sDEVICE=stcolor -r360x360 -sOutputFile=golfer.raw golfer.ps
> $ cat golfer.raw >/dev/lp1
> 
> All I get is formfeed, formfeed, formfeed, ... and so on. Nothing else.
> 
> Can anybody help me??

I have an stylus 600 and had the same result as you when trying the
stcolor driver.

Install the gs-aladdin package (filename for libc5 version is
gs-aladdin_5.03-0.99_i386.deb, I found it somewhere on an italian
server) and call gs like:

gs @stc500p.upp ...

The stc500p.upp response file will select the uniprint driver with the
correct options.  There is also an stc500ph.upp file.  Please read the
devices.txt file in /usr/doc/gs for more information.

Torsten

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Re: Suck and Inn

1998-01-11 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
Tony Schonfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> hello everubody , 
> 
> Since my News provider has disable the NEWNEWS command i've decided
> to use Suck with Inn.
> How to use this package for full compatibility with Inn ?  i've
> modified the get-news script to have -M flag and the target
> directory, because in the original version the articles are stored
> in /var/lib/suck/msg.hostname and Inn don't look that.

I don't use the getnews script provided by the package, I wrote my
own.  You have to give suck the -bi option to build a batchfile for
feeding it with innxmit to inn.  Here is the relevant part of my
script:

...
suck ${REMOTE_NEWS} -bi ${SUCK_IN} ${SUCK_OPTIONS}
SUCK_STATUS=$?
case ${SUCK_STATUS} in
0) # Some articles were available
   mv /etc/suck/sucknewsrc /etc/suck/sucknewsrc.old
   mv /var/lib/suck/suck.newrc /etc/suck/sucknewsrc
   rm -f /var/lib/suck/suck.sorted suckothermsg
   # That is important for feeding news into inn
   innxmit ${LOCAL_NEWS} ${SUCK_IN} && rm /var/lib/suck/msg/*
   sleep 200
   ;;
1) # No error, but no new article
   sleep 200
   ;;
*) # Some error occurred, retry after some short sleep
   echo "Suck failed for some reason, retrying after short sleep"
   sleep 20
   ;;
esac
...

I hope the variable names are understandable.  SUCK_OPTIONS just
contains -k to disable the use of a killfile (make suck much quicker).
If someone is interessted in this script send me an email.

Torsten

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Debian and Windoze 95

1998-01-11 Thread Catalin Popescu
A friend of mine has a hard-disk of 1.2Gb with 2 partions: /dev/hda1, 
/dev/hda2.

On /dev/hda1 he has Win'95. Is there any problems with booting if I help 
him to insatll Debian 1.3.1 on /dev/hda2 and try to boot it with loadlin.

Thank you very much,

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Re: netscape & acroread plugin?

1998-01-11 Thread bhmit1
On Sun, 11 Jan 1998, Steve Hsieh wrote:

> Does anyone have netscape & the acroread plugin working together?  On my
> setup, when you try to open a pdf file on the web, acroread will die as
> soon as the splash screen comes up, leaving netscape with the message "an
> error occured" or something not too useful of a message.  Essentially, it
> appears that acroread isn't waiting for the data to stream in on the
> network (unable to open the data pipe?).

Works here, from my .mailcap:
#mailcap entry added by Netscape Helper
application/pdf;/usr/local/bin/acroread %s

Don't think I did anything special.

Brandon

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Re: strftime() produces segmentation fault

1998-01-11 Thread Noel Yap
Torsten Hilbrich wrote:
> 
> Noel Yap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Not strictly Debian, but I *am* a Debian user so
> >
> > I am trying to ACeDB
> > .  However, both
> > the text and graphical programs (tace and xace, respectively) produce a
> > segmentation fault when trying to reinitialize the database.  gdb just
> > says:
> >
> > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
> > 0x40085dde in strftime ()
> 
> That usually happens, if the program gives a null pointer argument
> when calling the strftime.
> 
> You should recompile everything with -g option, run gdb ,
> and type up after receiving the segfault.  You will go up one stack
> frame and see at which source line this function is called.  Maybe you
> will be able to fix that line.

Thanks.  I am also having problems compiling, which is why I'm using the
pre-compiled binaries, but that's a whole other story.  I'll let the
upstream developers know about this.

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Install without floppies

1998-01-11 Thread Brian Schramm
I know tht I posted this question before but a person by the first name
of Stan replied but I did not get his E:Mail address.  

I have an older 486 machine that the floppy side is dead in.  I have a
sound blaster cd and sound card in it.  That will not boot a cd and the
only OS I have on it is Slackware.  I would like to put Debian on it so
I have the same system on all my machines.  Plus I like it better.  Stan
said somting about booting to the floppy image copied to the Slackware
partition using Lilo.  I would like to have more details on this.  If
anyone can help please let me know.

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[no subject]

1998-01-11 Thread Ian
Hi Marco,
CD is primary because as slave the 2nd HDD disappears. This way although
the BIOS can't autodetect the CD, it finds it on boot up. When I
installed the 2nd HDD, I thought that the HDD was the problem & replaced
it, but the new one behaved just the same. So I left it as it is now and
thought no more of it. Windows worked okay like that (well, as well as
it ever does), so I left it.
I've just tried to install Red Hat and have come across a different, but
similar problem. The setup hangs when I get to try to install from CD.
I've got Debian loaded (using dbc=cdrom), but I get the same timeout
messages when I try to access the CD.
I'm coming to the conclusion that it's a) a 'feature' of Linux, b) a
duff CD drive, or c) a duff ide controller. 'c' seems less likely as I'm
sure I tried all combinations and got the same trouble on the 1st
controller.
Trouble is I don't know Linux at all, and this seems to be too much of a
'newbie' problem to get much  response.
Windows is getting up my nose and I can't get Linux to work - maybe I
ought to go back to DOS 3.0 and microstar  ;-)
Thanks for your help, and if you or anyone else has any ideas, or
anywhere else I can go to ask my stupid questions, I'd be very grateful,

Ian
Reply to:
ian.bambury
@virgin.net
--
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As I said before, I'm a complete novice at Debian Linux. Once I'm set up
it'll be a bit better as I have worked on a Unix box before.
System:
Intel 233mmx
32Mb
HD as Primary on 1st controller
Pioneer DR-A24X CDrom as Pri on 2nd
Hd as slave on 2nd
The cdrom is badged as a Pioneer (and shows up on boot as one) but loads
gscdrom.sys so I presume it's got Goldstar connections somewhere.
On boot:
Loading root.bin..
Loading Linux...
hdc shows up as Pioneer
Get past Color screen
Get Release notes
Get detecting hardware settings
Then...
hdc: irq timeout: status=0x51
hdc: irq timeout: error 0x20
hdc: irq timeout: status=0x51

end_request: IO/error, dev 16:00, sector 0
hdc: irq timeout: status=0x51
hdc: irq timeout: status=0x51
hdc: irq timeout: status=0x51
hdc: irq timeout: status=0x51
hdc ATAPI reset complete
above 5 lines repeat ad infinitum
Any ideas? Or places to go for help?
I found the archives and read about 3 months-worth, but can't find
anything similar.
-- ends 
>
>just a question: why did you have your cd as primary and an Hd as
secondary?
>If it's ide/atapi, it doesn't matter what brand name it has
>I'm not an expert, but you could:
>- try to put a disk (a cd-rom) into the drive before booting
>- detach cdrom and see if you machine boots cleany
>
>HTH
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Re: PS/2 mouse setup; /dev/mouse?

1998-01-11 Thread Carl Mummert
I have GPM set up like so:

/etc/gpm.conf:

device=/dev/psaux
responsiveness=
type=ps2
append="-R"

And X like so:

/etc/X11/XF86Config:

Section "Pointer"
Protocol"MouseSystems"
Device  "/dev/gpmdata"


So that X will read the mouse data that GPM leaves in a fifo /dev/gpmdata.

I apologize if I sent an empty message before this one.

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Re: What is SLang?

1998-01-11 Thread Joey Hess
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> S-Lang is a library that (among other things) provides support for
> cursor-addressable terminals. It is used by a number of programs, including
> slrn, slsc and mutt.
> 
> As in general cron jobs don't have a terminal, the message is
> understandable.
> 
> You'd have to find out which of the programs run by cron.weekly is linked
> against S-Lang, and then rewrite that job not to use a program that needs a
> terminal.

This particular error message is caused by slrn, which can be run in a
cronjob to refresh it's newsgroups descroption file. If you see that error,
try upgrading to slrn version 0.9.3.2-4 or higher. Or, just edit
/etc/cron.daily/slrn and add "TERM=vt100; export TERM" near the top.

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Re: PS/2 mouse setup; /dev/mouse?

1998-01-11 Thread Carl Mummert


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Re: Package Installation....

1998-01-11 Thread David Stern
On Sun, 11 Jan 1998 12:49:54 +0400, "Timothy M. Hospedales" wrote:
> Hi, just a quick question b4 I go to lunch.
> I just installed the StarOffice thing, and had two problems. The first, was
> mentioned in the FAQ; it wouldn't register the deamons. Unfourtunately, I hav
> no idea how to enable the portmapper that the FAQ said I had to do. Where do
> I start with this?

First let me say that I don't have any experience with this sort of 
error, so the list might be a good place to resolve this.  However, 
this doesn't sound too complicated: "..won't register daemons faq said 
you had to.."--that sounds like a job for the daemon initializer 
(init.d).  Deamons are initialized, stopped and started by the daemon 
initializer.  I found a README in /etc/init.d which (among other 
things) gives instructions to run postinst (post-install) scripts.  I 
think you can adapt this to suit your needs, but not having any first 
hand experience with either manually initializing daemons or the 
staroffice .deb, I'm reluctant to go much further out on the limb, 
particularly in consideration that my first limb-going-out-on yielded 
unsatisfactory results.  Is there a staroffice.postinst (or similar) 
file?

By the way, when you install a package, there is often a post-install 
script, and you can see what these look like by looking in 
/var/lib/dpkg/info/*.postinst.  This way you at least have some idea of 
what a post install script looks like.

Regarding a portmapper, I'm completely unfamiliar with such an animal.  
I know what ports are: they're what the deamons listen and respond to 
requests on.  All I can imagine is that part of daemon initialization 
assigns a specific port or ports to listen in on for the staroffice 
daemon.  Somehow this never came up when I was installing staroffice.

> Then I went to run the setup script, (which was annoying; I couldn't find it
> because dpkg -L staroffice3 didn't list staroffice as owning it).
> And  big install-sheild style window comes up with a smaller window in it tha
> never got a chance to paint because the Xserver died, saying it caught error 
> 11. The script gave the error that my environment wasn't setup, so I rebooted
> and set my XPPATH variable as suggested in the FAQ.

Error no. 11 is a subject for a thesis, but the jist of it is that 
memory is trying to be accessed which is not properly provided for.  
This can be the result of a number of things such as bad code, 
overclocked processors, and it may even be intentional.  (Because I 
doubt you want to become a developer right now, I'll skip the debugging 
hoopla, although ideally that would be a Good Thing.)  One reason it 
may be intentional is that one cannot install staroffice as root--any 
attempt to do so will intentionally dump core.  The reason is that like 
some other programs which are intended to be networked, it is 
considered insecure to give superuser status to apps which could be 
heisted by a hacker.  There are several ways this can occur, I believe 
one such type of attack is called buffer flow overrun, which is 
essentially what it sounds like.  Anyway, make sure you're NOT root and 
see if that helps.

> This time I ran the script, and it crashed the X-Server again with the same
> error, but the script didn't give any error messages.
>
> Any ideas?
> Thanks!
> Timothy

Remember that while I do have a functional staroffice3.1 installation, 
I haven't used the .deb myself.  Before you criticize me for 
recommending that, let me explain: I spent FIVE MONTHS (no joke) trying 
to get staroffice to install using manual tarball and rpm methods, and 
finally I got a working installation.  Then I installed Debian, and at 
about the same time I started hearing reports that the .deb script 
worked very well.  Since that time (several months) I've not heard a 
single report of any difficulty, thus my recommendation. Meanwhile, my 
StarOffice installation is on /opt which I merely set in /etc/fstab to 
be booted automatically, so I just copied some user configuration files 
with filerunner from my old installation, and I was ready to go.

Also remember that any large application with static motif libraries 
will likely have a performance impediment--it's not terrible with 
staroffice, but is noticeable. Version 4.0 is not linked against motif, 
and the performance is much improved.  Also, the 4.0 installation is 
wizardly simple, fast, smooth, and flexible.  Also, version 4.0 has 
nicer appearing fonts.  In my opinion, version 4.0 is worth waiting 
three weeks for.

I suspect that any further questions regarding this particular case 
will exceed by ability to knowledgably respond, so my recommendation 
would be to accomplish what you can with what I've given you and then 
post the list for soem more qualified help.  But if I can be of any 
real help, don't hesitate to ask.

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Re: How to do an automated posting with leafnode

1998-01-11 Thread Joey Hess
Brian Skreeg wrote:
> I`m trying to do a weekly automated posting. I run a single user site
> connecting via dial-up and have leafnode installed. Is there a simple
> way to do this? I`ve tried ripping the inews bits out of Cnews but it`s
> far too messy.

Hm, I've never done this, but can't you install the inewsinn package and use
the inews package it provides?

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[off-topic] CVS advice?

1998-01-11 Thread Douglas Bates
Is there a way of setting checkout or checkin triggers with CVS?  I
want to do something like having a postinst script in a Debian
package.  Specifically, after checking out files in a given directory
I want to check for the existence of another directory, remove any
symbolic links from the current directory and re-establish symbolic
links to all the files in the other directory that have a certain
pattern in the file name.


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Interrupts and serial ports

1998-01-11 Thread Dan Hugo
I have a SIIG serial port ISA card so I can add on two more serial
ports.

I was looking through /etc/rc.boot/0setserial to see how everything is
configured, and I noticed that in the manual configuration section, it
attempts to setup the "COM1/3" and "COM2/4" ports to irq's 4 and 3,
respectively.  I've read the howto's and the docs that came with the
card, and everything is quite clear... "One serial port, one interrups."

My question-- does Linux support shared serial port interrupts in any
way?

The 0setserial file confused me a bit on this.

Thanks for any input.

-dh


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Re: browser with strong encryption?

1998-01-11 Thread Krzysztof Adamski
I'm running version 4.04 of the communicator with 128-bit. So it's
available, you just have to download the communicator.


On Sat, 10 Jan 1998, Greg Norris wrote:

> > Does anyone know of a browser with 128-bit encryption.  I need access to a
> > site that requires 128-bit encryption (it detects 40 or 56-bit encryption
> > and disables features on the site) and I'd hate to have to use win95.
> > Does netscape plan to make Navigator or Communicator available with
> > 128-bit encryption for linux?  Are there any other options?
> 
> Although Netscape v4.04 is not available for Linux with 128-bit
> encryption, v4.03 is.  You can download it from Netscape's web site.
> 
> 
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Re: patch for man command

1998-01-11 Thread Heikki Vatiainen
The syntax you are using for setting your PAGER looks a little odd. Does it 
work if you try it like this?

# PAGER=less
# export PAGER

// Heikki
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Re: Dosemu lredir problem

1998-01-11 Thread Marcus . Brinkmann


On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Neilen Marais wrote:

> >> I can't seem to get lredir to work in dosemu.
> >> 
> >> I am using the dosemu package from hamm.  I have an msdos partition
> >> mounted on /dos.  In dosemu I type
> >> 
> >> lredir d: LINUX\FS/dos
> >> 
> >> And then get error 3c.  And I can't seem to find the meaning of the
> >> errors anywhere in the docs.
> >
> >I get this too.  I read somewhere that this is because I am booting
> >from a Free-DOS image, and not an MSDos image.
> 
> So does this mean, that I HAVE to get microslop dos, or something
> similar to lredir drives?  Would be slightly sad, since dosemu is a bit
> useless to me w/o the lredir functionality...

Yes, this is true. Lredir does only work with "real" dos, either from IBM
or Microsoft. Well, you can try to fix FDOS ;)

You can also give dosemu access to partitions or disks as whole, but you
are right that there are cases, where lredir is necessary.

Marcus



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Re: PS/2 mouse setup; /dev/mouse?

1998-01-11 Thread Will Lowe
On Sun, 11 Jan 1998, Gregory Guthrie wrote:

> The XF86 config file points to /dev/mouse, which is a link to a serial
> port, but, my mouse is not on S0/S1.
the correct PS/2 mouse port is /dev/psaux.

> How should /dev/mouse be setup for this, in windows it is a separate port
> at IRQ 12.
use /dev/psaux and it'll be taken care of automatically.  You might do

rm /dev/mouse
ln -s /dev/psax /dev/mouse

to make a new /dev/mouse link that points to /dev/psaux,  and then use
/dev/mouse instead of /dev/psaux.  That way if for some reason you ever
need to use a serial mouse,  you can just change the link rather than
reconfiguring every piece of software that uses the mouse.

Will


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Re: Dosemu lredir problem

1998-01-11 Thread Neilen Marais

>> 
>> I can't seem to get lredir to work in dosemu.
>> 
>> I am using the dosemu package from hamm.  I have an msdos partition
>> mounted on /dos.  In dosemu I type
>> 
>> lredir d: LINUX\FS/dos
>> 
>> And then get error 3c.  And I can't seem to find the meaning of the
>> errors anywhere in the docs.
>
>I get this too.  I read somewhere that this is because I am booting
>from a Free-DOS image, and not an MSDos image.
>
>Mark
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So does this mean, that I HAVE to get microslop dos, or something
similar to lredir drives?  Would be slightly sad, since dosemu is a bit
useless to me w/o the lredir functionality...

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Re: PS/2 mouse setup; /dev/mouse?

1998-01-11 Thread Heikki Vatiainen
Since it is a PS/2 mouse, the Pointer section in XF86Config should probably 
look something like this:

Section "Pointer"
   Protocol"PS/2"
   Device  "/dev/psaux"
EndSection

// Heikki
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Re: Access Linux partition from W95?

1998-01-11 Thread Aria Prima Novianto
On Sun, Jan 11, 1998 at 11:05:48AM -0600, Gregory Guthrie wrote:
> I konw that I can mount W95 partitions from Linux; what aobut the inverse?
> 
> Occasionally I am in windows, and want to examine, print, etc..
>  [So far, I only have MSOffice on Windows, not Linux!  :-)]
> 

FSDEXT2 : Second extended file system for Windows 95
http://www.globalxs.nl/home/p/pvs/
It's a read-only version though.
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Access Linux partition from W95?

1998-01-11 Thread Gregory Guthrie
I konw that I can mount W95 partitions from Linux; what aobut the inverse?

Occasionally I am in windows, and want to examine, print, etc..
 [So far, I only have MSOffice on Windows, not Linux!  :-)]

Thanks.


Dr. Gregory Guthrie
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PS/2 mouse setup; /dev/mouse?

1998-01-11 Thread Gregory Guthrie
I have a Microsoft PS/2 mouse, with a seperate port, not one of my serial
ports.

The XF86 config file points to /dev/mouse, which is a link to a serial
port, but, my mouse is not on S0/S1.

How should /dev/mouse be setup for this, in windows it is a separate port
at IRQ 12.

Thanks.

Dr. Gregory Guthrie
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Computer Science Department
   College of Science and Technology
   Maharishi University of Management
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Re: Package Installation....

1998-01-11 Thread Timothy M. Hospedales
Hi, just a quick question b4 I go to lunch.
I just installed the StarOffice thing, and had two problems. The first, was
mentioned in the FAQ; it wouldn't register the deamons. Unfourtunately, I have
no idea how to enable the portmapper that the FAQ said I had to do. Where do
I start with this?
Then I went to run the setup script, (which was annoying; I couldn't find it
because dpkg -L staroffice3 didn't list staroffice as owning it).
And  big install-sheild style window comes up with a smaller window in it that
never got a chance to paint because the Xserver died, saying it caught error no
11. The script gave the error that my environment wasn't setup, so I rebooted,
and set my XPPATH variable as suggested in the FAQ.
This time I ran the script, and it crashed the X-Server again with the same
error, but the script didn't give any error messages.

Any ideas?
Thanks!
Timothy


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Re: The Debian Gnu logo?

1998-01-11 Thread Carl Mummert
On Sun, Jan 11, 1998 at 10:57:53AM -0500, Michael Stutz wrote:
cm >_Is_ there an official Debian logo yet?

Yes. I remember several months ago it was announced on the list, but it
doesn't appear on the debain.org news page so it is easy to miss.

The official logo is teh red penguin with the blue eye, drawn in profile,
which is on the www.debian.org page at the top-left

Here is the url of Bruce Perens' announcement:
http://fatman.mathematik.tu-muenchen.de/~schwarz/debian-logo/announcement.html

Carl

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Re: browser with strong encryption?

1998-01-11 Thread Toens Bueker
Am Sun, Jan 11, 1998 at 10:13:35AM -0500, meinte Lee Bradshaw:

> Thanks for the pointer to v4.03.  I just looked at the product specs tables 
> and didn't see strong encryption for linux.
> I guess they just have the latest version in the tables,
> even if it doesn't have all the features of previous 
> versions.

I'm using netscape-navigator (standalone) v4.04 with
128bit encryption.

Search altavista with '+fortify +netscape' and you will
find what you need.

By
Töns
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Re: Using dselect and unstable packages

1998-01-11 Thread jdassen
On Sun, Jan 11, 1998 at 09:15:31PM +0500, Ian & Gill Watkins wrote:
> Can you use dselect and the unstable packages vis FTP. If so how?

Yes. Use an FTP site that carries unstable, and configure dpkg-ftp (through
"[A]ccess") to use the directories "dists/unstable/main",
"dists/unstable/contrib" and "dists/unstable/non-free".

HTH,
Ray
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Using dselect and unstable packages

1998-01-11 Thread Ian & Gill Watkins
Can you use dselect and the unstable packages vis FTP. If so how? I couldn't 
seem to find a Packages file with all the unstable stuff (for instance tcl8) 
How should I setup the FTP packages?

Ian W


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NTFS driver as module

1998-01-11 Thread Ian & Gill Watkins
I have just built and (it would seem) successfully installed the 2.0.33 kernel. 
The previous version I had was 2.0.29.

I had previously built and installed the NTFS read-only driver in v29 and it 
had worked fine. Under 33 I am getting this error message when I do the make 
mount:

sync
/sbin/insmod ntfs.o ntdebug=1
ntfs.o: kernel-module version mismatch
ntfs.o was compiled for kernel version 2.0.29
while this kernel is version 2.0.33.
make: *** [mount] Error 1

I have tried all sorts of things to get around this, what have I missed?? I 
have not got module versioning installed in the kernel as far as I can tell.

Ian W


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Re: The Debian Gnu logo?

1998-01-11 Thread Michael Stutz
On Sat, 10 Jan 1998, Michael [badpixel/bad sector] wrote:

> Is there a site, where I can get the Debian logo in different 
> sizes/formats?

_Is_ there an official Debian logo yet?


Michael Stutz  .  http://dsl.org/m/  .  copyright disclaimer etc
stutz@dsl.org  :  finger for pgp :  http://dsl.org/copyleft/


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Re: exmh questions become exmh questions

1998-01-11 Thread Lee Bradshaw
Hi,

Well the title should have been "exmh questions become smail questions."

Thanks to Martin Bialasinski for suggesting setting up my own domain.
Is there a domain name reserved for private networks like the reserved
ip address ranges?  I picked home.bradshaw, but I'd switch to the
correct name if there is one.  Although I doubt "bradshaw" will ever be
used on the internet.

Thanks to Will Lowe for the final piece ot the puzzle in smail/config:

  hostnames=your.host.name:localhost

  Where your.host.name is your fqdn.

I wasn't able to send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] until I
did this.  smail complained that it couldn't find the host, but ping
worked fine.  I thought it might be because smail was using bind instead
of the resolver library which specifies "hosts, bind".  I was trying to
figure out how to set up bind as more that a caching server when I read
Will's message and it fixed the smail problem.

The next step is tackling sendmail on solaris so that machine will
forward all mail to freefall (the debian system I want to use as a mail
server.)

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Re: browser with strong encryption?

1998-01-11 Thread Lee Bradshaw

Greg,

Thanks for the pointer to v4.03.  I just looked at the product specs tables 
and didn't see strong encryption for linux.  I guess they just have the latest 
version in the tables, even if it doesn't have all the features of previous 
versions.

Lee Bradshaw


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Re: SVGA Web Browser?

1998-01-11 Thread Michael Stutz
On Sun, 11 Jan 1998, Tim Thomson wrote:

> > Such a beast would be great. Alas, I don't think one exists. Perhaps if
> > Mnemonic ever gets into beta, we'll see one.
> 
> What is Mnemonic?

A project to build a graphical, GPLed, buzzword-compliant Web browser:
http://www.mnemonic.org
http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/3907.html
http://mnemonic.browser.org


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How to do an automated posting with leafnode

1998-01-11 Thread Brian Skreeg
Hi there,
I`m trying to do a weekly automated posting. I run a single user site
connecting via dial-up and have leafnode installed. Is there a simple
way to do this? I`ve tried ripping the inews bits out of Cnews but it`s
far too messy.

TIA

Ozzy,
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What about a "Linux" key?

1998-01-11 Thread Enrico Zini
Hello PC users!

What about putting a penguin sticker on top of those "Window 95" keys on all 
new keyboards ?

They could come handy as new modifiers, for example to switch virtual consoles, 
leaving Alt free and providing a good alternative for Ctrl-alt(gr)-Fn in X and 
DosEmu; more, one could use them to control X window managers leaving usual 
keys for applications (e.g. Alt-Tab used by Midnight Commander is usually bound 
to some sort of cycling through windows), and we could use a single-key compose.

Their scancodes are already seen by Linux, but I could not find any way to bind 
them to a modifier (it seems there are no extra modifiers to use). Also, I'm 
not good enough to fiddle with xmodmap. Anyway I have been successfull in 
binding the menu-like thing to compose: "echo keycode 127 = Compose | loadkeys".

Is there a way to have a new modifier or we need to hack kernel? How is Linux 
doing on a Sun, since they have plenty of extra keys and modifiers?

Maybe we could build a new keyboard mapping table?

  Bye, Enrico

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Re: What is SLang?

1998-01-11 Thread jdassen
On Sun, Jan 11, 1998 at 05:35:26PM +1300, Tim Thomson wrote:
> My cron.weekly came up with the message:
> Terminal not powerful enough for SLang.
> 
> What is SLang,

S-Lang is a library that (among other things) provides support for
cursor-addressable terminals. It is used by a number of programs, including
slrn, slsc and mutt.

As in general cron jobs don't have a terminal, the message is
understandable.

> and how do I fix this error?

You'd have to find out which of the programs run by cron.weekly is linked
against S-Lang, and then rewrite that job not to use a program that needs a
terminal.

HTH,
Ray
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netscape & acroread plugin?

1998-01-11 Thread Steve Hsieh

Does anyone have netscape & the acroread plugin working together?  On my
setup, when you try to open a pdf file on the web, acroread will die as
soon as the splash screen comes up, leaving netscape with the message "an
error occured" or something not too useful of a message.  Essentially, it
appears that acroread isn't waiting for the data to stream in on the
network (unable to open the data pipe?).

If you try to open a pdf on the hard disk (local) via netcape, it works
though.

If you have the plugin working, did you have to do anything special?

I also tried configuring it as a helper program, but netcsape refuses to
even run that -- instead, it insists on saving application/pdf to disk,
even though I have the helper program configured as "acroread %s"

Thanks





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Two Net Cards problem

1998-01-11 Thread Rob
I have just tried adding a second network card to my linux machine, and am
having a few problems.

I am running all hamm software, although I think some modules have been
updated since I installed it some weeks ago.  The original card in the
machine was a basic NE2000 clone.  I have added a Racal Interlan NI6510ES.
I have had both cards working individually in the system without problems.

On boot up, both cards were recognised automatically, I did not need to
change the con figuration.  The Lance drivers see the Racal card some time
before the ne drivers see the NE2000 clone, and they are given names eth0
and eth1 respectivly.  Originally, with the NE2000 only in the system, this
was eth0.

I adjusted /etc/init.d/network manually to move the eth0 code to eth1, for
the internal network, and added the code for eth0 for my internet link.  I
had to do this because only the NI6510 has the utp connection I need for
the external link.

Now, the internal network still works, on eth1, but I can't get any life
out of the internet link.  I know the link itself is OK, as it's currently
in use from an NT machine that I anm trying to replace here.  I'm just
plugging it in when I want to test it.  Pinging any external address,
including same-subnet stuff, doesn't get any responses, and it seems from
ifconfig that the packets are going out the wrong interface.

I know it must be something simple I have done wrong, but I can't for the
life of me see what.  I'm sure it will be obvious to someone there..

Thanks

Rob.

blue# ifconfig
loLink encap:Local Loopback
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Bcast:127.255.255.255  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP BROADCAST LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3584  Metric:1
  RX packets:294 error:0 dropped:0 over:0 frame:0
  TX packets:294 error:0 dropped:0 over:0 carrier:0 coll:0
 
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 02:07:01:16:2D:C1
  inet addr:195.44.34.215  Bcast:195.44.34.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 error:0 dropped:0 over:0 frame:0
  TX packets:5 error:8 dropped:0 over:0 carrier:8 coll:0
  Interrupt:5 Base address:0x320 DMA chan:5
 
eth1  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:80:AD:10:C0:9C
  inet addr:192.168.0.5  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:3530 error:0 dropped:0 over:0 frame:0
  TX packets:865 error:0 dropped:0 over:0 carrier:0 coll:0
  Interrupt:3 Base address:0x300
 

blue# cat /etc/init.d/network
#!  /bin/sh
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
route add -net 127.0.0.0
 
IPADDR=195.44.34.215
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
NETWORK=195.44.34.0
BROADCAST=195.44.34.255
GATEWAY=195.44.34.1
ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
route add -net ${NETWORK}
[ "${GATEWAY}" ] && route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1
 
IPADDR=192.168.0.5
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
NETWORK=192.168.0.0
BROADCAST=192.168.0.255
ifconfig eth1 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
route add -net ${NETWORK}

blue# route
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface
195.44.34.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  01 eth0
192.168.0.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  02 eth1
127.0.0.0   *   255.0.0.0   U 0  02 lo
default 195.44.34.1 0.0.0.0 UG1  01 eth0



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Re: My man is lost!

1998-01-11 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jeff Gutliph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Just installed Debian last night. 
>bash insists that the man command can not be found.
>I don't see it either.
>What gives?

You need to install the `man-db' package.

Mike.
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Re: MagicFilter

1998-01-11 Thread Mirek Kwasniak
> I have another one: How can I install and setup Magicfilter under debian?
> I have a HPLJ4L printer which worked fine under Slackware having the 
> Magicfilter installed by hand. Which package should I install now (I did 
> not find one called Magicfilter, guess I've done the right search)?
> 

In bo (stable) distribution is magicfilter 1.2-10.

Mirek


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version 0.8 of libc5 to libc6 auto-upgrade script

1998-01-11 Thread Craig Sanders

I just ran this script on an old system (somewhere between rex and bo)
with lots of -dev packages installed. found and fixed two bugs.

- libc6 conflicts with libpthread0 
- i made a typo... PKGS_GPP instead of PKGS_LIBGPP.
- some old version of perl's postrm didn't delete a .packlist file
  from /usr/lib/perl5/i486-linux/5.003/auto/Mail/.packlist.  check for
  it and delete if found before installing perl.

apart from those problems, it ran through cleanly.  i think it's nearly
finished (but i said that around version 0.2 didn't I :-)

---cut here---
#! /bin/sh

DPKG=`which dpkg`
LDCONFIG=`which ldconfig`

# uncomment for debugging
#set -x
#DPKG="echo dpkg"
#LDCONFIG="echo LDCONFIG"

# upgrade a libc5 (bo) machine to libc6 (hamm).

# based on Scott Ellis' excellent "Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO"
# document at http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html

# Author: Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
#
# Copyright Status: This script is hereby placed in the public domain
#
# Revision History:
# v0.0: 1998-01-08 (morning)
#   - a rough transcript of scott's doc and my own experiences
# v0.1: 1998-01-08 (night)
#   - a few bugfixes
#   - i got unlazy and put in the right subdirectories for each package. 
# should run a lot faster.
#   - now checks for failure at critical points and exits with a different
# exit code for each failure.
#   - now uses 'binary-$(dpkg --print-installation-architecture)' instead 
# of 'binary-i386'.
# v0.2: 1998-01-09 
#   - fixed the perl-base/perl install (thanks Lindsay!)
#   - improved the DEVPACKAGES=$(dpkg --get-selections...) and added -dbg
# packages.
# v0.3: 1998-01-09 (p.m.)
#   - fixed some directories
#   - changed "-iB" to "-iBE" so that if the script fails and is run again
# it will not disturb things already in place.
#   - added a final "dpkg --configure --pending".
#   - sanity check that we are in the right place added
# v0.4: 1998-01-10 (Igor Grobman)
#   - made it possible to place all packages in current dir.
#   - added -pic packages to removal list.
#   - make sure dpkg-dev does not get selected for removal.
#   - moved dpkg-ftp and dpkg-mounted to the end.  
#v0.5: 1998-01-10 (Igor Grobman)
#   - added a note about upgrading libraries 
#v0.6: 1998-01-11 (Craig Sanders)
#   - restructured code to avoid code duplication. 
#   - cleaned up a few things
#   - prints advisory notes telling user what's happening.
#   - added some more instructions on what to do about development packages.
#   - added code to guess some obvious locations for the mirror, otherwise
# ask user.
#v0.7: 1998-01-11 (Craig Sanders)
#   - uh oh.  i hard-coded in binary-i386.  quick...better release another
# version before James notices.
#v0.8: 1998-01-11 (Craig Sanders)
#   - added libpthread0 to the remove list.
#   - fixed PKGS_LIBGPP (i mistyped it as PKGS_GPP)
#   - some old version of perl's postrm didn't delete a .packlist file
# from /usr/lib/perl5/i486-linux/5.003/auto/Mail/.packlist.  check for
# it and delete if found before installing perl.
#
# TODO: (probably by somebody else.  this script is mostly good enough imo)
#   - this script _still_ needs more error checking :-)

ARCH="binary-$(dpkg --print-installation-architecture)"

PKGS_LIBC6="base/ldso_*.deb base/libc5_*.deb base/libc6_*.deb \
   base/timezones_*.deb admin/locales_*.deb"
PKGS_NCURSES="libs/ncurses3.0_*.deb base/ncurses3.4_*.deb"
PKGS_LIBRL="oldlibs/libreadline2_*.deb"
PKGS_LIBRLG="base/libreadlineg2_*.deb"
PKGS_BASH="base/bash_*.deb"
PKGS_LIBGPP="devel/libg++272_*.deb"
PKGS_DPKG="base/dpkg_*.deb utils/dpkg-dev_*.deb"
PKGS_LIBGDBM="base/libgdbm1_*.deb devel/libgdbmg1_*.deb"
PKGS_PERLBASE="base/perl-base_*.deb"
PKGS_PERL="interpreters/perl_*.deb"
PKGS_MOREDPKG="base/dpkg-ftp_*.deb admin/dpkg-mountable_*.deb"


cat <<__EOF__
This script will install the packages necessary to ensure a safe upgrade
to hamm.  

You need to either have a local or remote mirror mounted, or have the
latest versions of the following packages from hamm available in the
current directory:

ldso, libc5, libc6, timezones, locales, ncurses3.0, ncurses3.4,
libreadline2, libreadlineg2, bash, libg++272, dpkg, dpkg-dev,
dpkg-ftp, dpkg-mountable, libgdbm1, libgdbmg1, perl-base, and perl.

If you are using a mirror, press 'm'.
__EOF__

echo -n "if you have the files in the current dir, press 'c': (m/c) "

read answer

case "$answer" in
m|M)
# local mirror available

# ask where the mirror is (this could do with some error checking)
echo 
echo "enter the full path to your local mirror of debian: "
echo "e.g. /debian/dists/unstable/main/$ARCH/"
echo 

TRY="/debian/dists/unstable/main/$ARCH 
~ftp/debian/dists/unstable/main/$ARCH "
for i in $TRY ; do
if [ -d $i ] ; then
DEFAULT=$i
fi
done 

[ -n "$DEFAULT" ] && echo or just hit enter to use

Re: xload

1998-01-11 Thread Pure Energy
On Sun, 11 Jan 1998, Christopher Jason Morrone wrote:

> Yeah I noticed that too. :)
> 
> On Sat, 10 Jan 1998, Matt Thompson wrote:
> 
> > OK, so what happened to xload now?  I just upgraded my hamm system and
> > xload has disappeared.  Don't we go through this every once in a while?

Yup i had a problem with xosview.. after upgrading to hamm it
disappeared.. I ahd to uninstall it and reinstall it. worked great then.

?? Strange Things ??


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Re: Smail and Fetchmail combo

1998-01-11 Thread Will Lowe
On Sat, 10 Jan 1998, Damir J. Naden wrote:

> Now, I can finally retrieve my E-mails using fetchmail from the ISP, but
> the mail doesn't go into my /var/spool/mail/dnaden mailbox. As a matter
After fetchmail runs,  type "mailq" to see if the mail has been correctly
delivered to your smail.  mailq will list all the mail smail has received
but not yet delivered to end users.

> I was under the impression that smail/fetchmail combo doesn't need any
> local delivery programs ( I can send an E-mail to myself from root
It requires that smail act as a delivery agent for localhost.  I had a
problem like the one you've described,  which was caused basically by the
fact that smail didn't recognize "localhost" as "this computer here" --
fetchmail routes mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Smail was unable to deliver mail of this 
sort,  so it just sat around someplace under /var/spool/mail. Make sure
/etc/smail/config contains

hostnames=your.host.name:localhost

Where your.host.name is your fqdn.

Will


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Re: xload

1998-01-11 Thread bhmit1
Bug #16939
http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/16/16939.html

Hope this one is resolved soon,
Brandon

On Sun, 11 Jan 1998, Christopher Jason Morrone wrote:

> 
> Yeah I noticed that too. :)
> 
> On Sat, 10 Jan 1998, Matt Thompson wrote:
> 
> > OK, so what happened to xload now?  I just upgraded my hamm system and
> > xload has disappeared.  Don't we go through this every once in a while?
> > 
> > Matt Thompson   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > MZI, Inc.   v-206.430.3726
> > 707 S. Grady Wayf-206.430.3420
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Re: Question re:Debian and ppp...

1998-01-11 Thread smorrill
I'm sorry... you've lost me on this one...

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Re: xload

1998-01-11 Thread Christopher Jason Morrone

Yeah I noticed that too. :)

On Sat, 10 Jan 1998, Matt Thompson wrote:

> OK, so what happened to xload now?  I just upgraded my hamm system and
> xload has disappeared.  Don't we go through this every once in a while?
> 
> Matt Thompson   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MZI, Inc.   v-206.430.3726
> 707 S. Grady Wayf-206.430.3420
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Re: new computer advice

1998-01-11 Thread Alex Yukhimets
> Right now, it looks like Micron is where I'll be purchasing it from (though
> that isn't absolutely certain).  Here's the main features of what I'm
> currently planning on:

Hi.

Check out Net Express (http://www.tdl.com/~netex/).
They have exactly what you want and in addition *very* knowledgeable
technical support. *Very* experienced with Linux.

> Dual 300MHz Pentium II
> 128MB SDRAM
> Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI controller

Suggest BusLogic 958 instead.

> Dual 4GB ultra-wide SCSI HDs
> Diamond Fire GL 1000 PCI video (this will probably change)

Go for AGP card and save PCI slot for something else.

Alex Y.

> JAZ drive (internal)
> US Robotics x2 modem (need to make sure it's not a winmodem)
> 3COM 3C905 Ethernet card
> Logitec 3-Button mouse

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xload

1998-01-11 Thread Matt Thompson
OK, so what happened to xload now?  I just upgraded my hamm system and
xload has disappeared.  Don't we go through this every once in a while?

Matt Thompson   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MZI, Inc.   v-206.430.3726
707 S. Grady Wayf-206.430.3420
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Re:libc5 to libc6 auto-upgrade script

1998-01-11 Thread Craig Sanders

oops.  i hard-coded 'binary-i386'.  mea culpa.  

---cut here---
#! /bin/sh

DPKG=`which dpkg`
LDCONFIG=`which ldconfig`

# uncomment for debugging
#set -x
#DPKG="echo dpkg"
#DCONFIG="echo LDCONFIG"

# upgrade a libc5 (bo) machine to libc6 (hamm).

# based on Scott Ellis' excellent "Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO"
# document at http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html

# Author: Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
#
# Copyright Status: This script is hereby placed in the public domain
#
# Revision History:
# v0.0: 1998-01-08 (morning)
#   - a rough transcript of scott's doc and my own experiences
# v0.1: 1998-01-08 (night)
#   - a few bugfixes
#   - i got unlazy and put in the right subdirectories for each package. 
# should run a lot faster.
#   - now checks for failure at critical points and exits with a different
# exit code for each failure.
#   - now uses 'binary-$(dpkg --print-installation-architecture)' instead 
# of 'binary-i386'.
# v0.2: 1998-01-09 
#   - fixed the perl-base/perl install (thanks Lindsay!)
#   - improved the DEVPACKAGES=$(dpkg --get-selections...) and added -dbg
# packages.
# v0.3: 1998-01-09 (p.m.)
#   - fixed some directories
#   - changed "-iB" to "-iBE" so that if the script fails and is run again
# it will not disturb things already in place.
#   - added a final "dpkg --configure --pending".
#   - sanity check that we are in the right place added
# v0.4: 1998-01-10 (Igor Grobman)
#   - made it possible to place all packages in current dir.
#   - added -pic packages to removal list.
#   - make sure dpkg-dev does not get selected for removal.
#   - moved dpkg-ftp and dpkg-mounted to the end.  
#v0.5: 1998-01-10 (Igor Grobman)
#   - added a note about upgrading libraries 
#v0.6: 1998-01-11 (Craig Sanders)
#   - restructured code to avoid code duplication. 
#   - cleaned up a few things
#   - prints advisory notes telling user what's happening.
#   - added some more instructions on what to do about development packages.
#   - added code to guess some obvious locations for the mirror, otherwise
# ask user.
#v0.7: 1998-01-11 (CS)
#   - uh oh.  i hard-coded in binary-i386.  quick...better release another
# version before James notices.
#
# TODO: (probably by somebody else.  this script is mostly good enough imo)
#   - this script _still_ needs more error checking :-)

ARCH="binary-$(dpkg --print-installation-architecture)"

PKGS_LIBC6="base/ldso_*.deb base/libc5_*.deb base/libc6_*.deb \
   base/timezones_*.deb admin/locales_*.deb"
PKGS_NCURSES="libs/ncurses3.0_*.deb base/ncurses3.4_*.deb"
PKGS_LIBRL="oldlibs/libreadline2_*.deb"
PKGS_LIBRLG="base/libreadlineg2_*.deb"
PKGS_BASH="base/bash_*.deb"
PKGS_LIBGPP="devel/libg++272_*.deb"
PKGS_DPKG="base/dpkg_*.deb utils/dpkg-dev_*.deb"
PKGS_LIBGDBM="base/libgdbm1_*.deb devel/libgdbmg1_*.deb"
PKGS_PERLBASE="base/perl-base_*.deb"
PKGS_PERL="interpreters/perl_*.deb"
PKGS_MOREDPKG="base/dpkg-ftp_*.deb admin/dpkg-mountable_*.deb"


cat <<__EOF__
This script will install the packages necessary to ensure a safe upgrade
to hamm.  

You need to either have a local or remote mirror mounted, or have the
latest versions of the following packages from hamm available in the
current directory:

ldso, libc5, libc6, timezones, locales, ncurses3.0, ncurses3.4,
libreadline2, libreadlineg2, bash, libg++272, dpkg, dpkg-dev,
dpkg-ftp, dpkg-mountable, libgdbm1, libgdbmg1, perl-base, and perl.

If you are using a mirror, press 'm'.
__EOF__

echo -n "if you have the files in the current dir, press 'c': (m/c) "

read answer

case "$answer" in
m|M)
# local mirror available

# ask where the mirror is (this could do with some error checking)
echo 
echo "enter the full path to your local mirror of debian: "
echo "e.g. /debian/dists/unstable/main/$ARCH/"
echo 

TRY="/debian/dists/unstable/main/$ARCH 
~ftp/debian/dists/unstable/main/$ARCH "
for i in $TRY ; do
if [ -d $i ] ; then
DEFAULT=$i
fi
done 

[ -n "$DEFAULT" ] && echo or just hit enter to use "$i".

read DM

[ -z "$DM" ] && DM=$DEFAULT

SEDSCRIPT="s:\([^ /]*/\):$DM/\1:g"
;;

c|C)
# current directory
SEDSCRIPT='s:[^ /]*/::g'
;;
esac

echo "building list of package filenames to install..."

# convert PKGS_ variables to correct directory location
PKGS_LIBC6=$( echo $PKGS_LIBC6 | sed -e "$SEDSCRIPT" )
PKGS_NCURSES=$( echo $PKGS_NCURSES | sed -e "$SEDSCRIPT" )
PKGS_LIBRL=$( echo $PKGS_LIBRL | sed -e "$SEDSCRIPT" )
PKGS_LIBRLG=$( echo $PKGS_LIBRLG | sed -e "$SEDSCRIPT" )
PKGS_BASH=$( echo $PKGS_BASH | sed -e "$SEDSCRIPT" )
PKGS_LIBGPP=$( echo $PKGS_GPP | sed -e "$SEDSCRIPT" )
PKGS_DPKG=$( echo $PKGS_DPKG | sed -e "$SEDSCRIPT" )
PKGS_LIBGDBM=$( echo $PKGS_LIBGDBM | sed -e "$SEDSCRIPT" )
PKGS_PERLBASE=$( echo $PKGS_PERLBASE | sed -e "$SEDSCRIPT" )
PKGS_PERL=$( echo $PKGS_PERL | 

Re: LILO stopped working

1998-01-11 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Jan 11, 1998 at 05:17:28PM +1300, Tim Thomson wrote:
> like the system map for the old kernel, and what the system map actually
> does. What do the files in the /boot dir do? The only file touched since
> installing is /boot/map which (I guess) LILO had done, after I
> reconfigured it.

Don't remove any of the files in /boot. LILO needs them. And since there's
less than 1mb of files in there it doesn't even seem worth fiddling with

The .b files are the boot loaders which LILO uses to write the boot
sectors. 

> BTW, liloconfig is easier to remember than the other command to
> reconfigure LILO.

Usually, you just run lilo -- no need to run liloconfig etc.


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Re:libc5 to libc6 auto-upgrade script

1998-01-11 Thread Craig Sanders

here's another update to igor's latest version.

this one:
- avoids duplicated code
- tells the user what it's doing
- has more error checking
- guesses at the location of the mirror

enjoy!

---cut here---
#! /bin/sh

DPKG=`which dpkg`
LDCONFIG=`which ldconfig`

# uncomment for debugging
#set -x
#DPKG="echo dpkg"
#LDCONFIG="echo LDCONFIG"

# upgrade a libc5 (bo) machine to libc6 (hamm).

# based on Scott Ellis' excellent "Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO"
# document at http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html

# Author: Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
#
# Copyright Status: This script is hereby placed in the public domain
#
# Revision History:
# v0.0: 1998-01-08 (morning)
#   - a rough transcript of scott's doc and my own experiences
# v0.1: 1998-01-08 (night)
#   - a few bugfixes
#   - i got unlazy and put in the right subdirectories for each package. 
# should run a lot faster.
#   - now checks for failure at critical points and exits with a different
# exit code for each failure.
#   - now uses 'binary-$(dpkg --print-installation-architecture)' instead 
# of 'binary-i386'.
# v0.2: 1998-01-09 
#   - fixed the perl-base/perl install (thanks Lindsay!)
#   - improved the DEVPACKAGES=$(dpkg --get-selections...) and added -dbg
# packages.
# v0.3: 1998-01-09 (p.m.)
#   - fixed some directories
#   - changed "-iB" to "-iBE" so that if the script fails and is run again
# it will not disturb things already in place.
#   - added a final "dpkg --configure --pending".
#   - sanity check that we are in the right place added
# v0.4: 1998-01-10 (Igor Grobman)
#   - made it possible to place all packages in current dir.
#   - added -pic packages to removal list.
#   - make sure dpkg-dev does not get selected for removal.
#   - moved dpkg-ftp and dpkg-mounted to the end.  
#v0.5: 1998-01-10 (Igor Grobman)
#   - added a note about upgrading libraries 
#v0.6: 1998-01-11 (Craig Sanders)
#   - restructured code to avoid code duplication. 
#   - cleaned up a few things
#   - prints advisory notes telling user what's happening.
#   - added some more instructions on what to do about development packages.
#   - added code to guess some obvious locations for the mirror, otherwise
# ask user.
#
# TODO: (probably by somebody else.  this script is mostly good enough imo)
#   - this script _still_ needs more error checking :-)

PKGS_LIBC6="base/ldso_*.deb base/libc5_*.deb base/libc6_*.deb \
   base/timezones_*.deb admin/locales_*.deb"
PKGS_NCURSES="libs/ncurses3.0_*.deb base/ncurses3.4_*.deb"
PKGS_LIBRL="oldlibs/libreadline2_*.deb"
PKGS_LIBRLG="base/libreadlineg2_*.deb"
PKGS_BASH="base/bash_*.deb"
PKGS_LIBGPP="devel/libg++272_*.deb"
PKGS_DPKG="base/dpkg_*.deb utils/dpkg-dev_*.deb"
PKGS_LIBGDBM="base/libgdbm1_*.deb devel/libgdbmg1_*.deb"
PKGS_PERLBASE="base/perl-base_*.deb"
PKGS_PERL="interpreters/perl_*.deb"
PKGS_MOREDPKG="base/dpkg-ftp_*.deb admin/dpkg-mountable_*.deb"


cat <<__EOF__
This script will install the packages necessary to ensure a safe upgrade
to hamm.  

You need to either have a local or remote mirror mounted, or have the
latest versions of the following packages from hamm available in the
current directory:

ldso, libc5, libc6, timezones, locales, ncurses3.0, ncurses3.4,
libreadline2, libreadlineg2, bash, libg++272, dpkg, dpkg-dev,
dpkg-ftp, dpkg-mountable, libgdbm1, libgdbmg1, perl-base, and perl.

If you are using a mirror, press 'm'.
__EOF__

echo -n "if you have the files in the current dir, press 'c': (m/c) "

read answer

case "$answer" in
m|M)
# local mirror available

# ask where the mirror is (this could do with some error checking)
echo 
echo "enter the full path to your local mirror of debian: "
echo "e.g. /debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/"
echo 

TRY="/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386 
~ftp/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386 "
for i in $TRY ; do
if [ -d $i ] ; then
DEFAULT=$i
fi
done 

[ -n "$DEFAULT" ] && echo or just hit enter to use "$i".

read DM

[ -z "$DM" ] && DM=$DEFAULT

SEDSCRIPT="s:\([^ /]*/\):$DM/\1:g"
;;

c|C)
# current directory
SEDSCRIPT='s:[^ /]*/::g'
;;
esac

echo "building list of package filenames to install..."

# convert PKGS_ variables to correct directory location
PKGS_LIBC6=$( echo $PKGS_LIBC6 | sed -e "$SEDSCRIPT" )
PKGS_NCURSES=$( echo $PKGS_NCURSES | sed -e "$SEDSCRIPT" )
PKGS_LIBRL=$( echo $PKGS_LIBRL | sed -e "$SEDSCRIPT" )
PKGS_LIBRLG=$( echo $PKGS_LIBRLG | sed -e "$SEDSCRIPT" )
PKGS_BASH=$( echo $PKGS_BASH | sed -e "$SEDSCRIPT" )
PKGS_LIBGPP=$( echo $PKGS_GPP | sed -e "$SEDSCRIPT" )
PKGS_DPKG=$( echo $PKGS_DPKG | sed -e "$SEDSCRIPT" )
PKGS_LIBGDBM=$( echo $PKGS_LIBGDBM | sed -e "$SEDSCRIPT" )
PKGS_PERLBASE=$( echo $PKGS_PERLBASE | sed -e "$SEDSCRIPT" )
PKGS_PERL=$( echo $PKGS_PERL 

Smail and Fetchmail combo

1998-01-11 Thread Damir J. Naden
I feel really stupid for asking this, but I don't know how to proceed
with this thing:
I posted the other day about my problems with new smail package from
hamm on two different problems:
-one was solved by editing /etc/smail/config to get rid of the extra
white space in the script
-the other one (fetchmail refused access to SMTP on my machine) by
editing the /etc/hosts and changing my_box to my_box.my_domain.name (I
still feel embarassed about that one..)

Now, I can finally retrieve my E-mails using fetchmail from the ISP, but
the mail doesn't go into my /var/spool/mail/dnaden mailbox. As a matter
of fact, I still don't know where the heck did that E-mail ended up...
I was under the impression that smail/fetchmail combo doesn't need any
local delivery programs ( I can send an E-mail to myself from root
account for example..)
Can you point me to any READMEs or explain what am I doing wrong?

Thank you

Damir


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Re: HELP! Netscape under hamm??

1998-01-11 Thread Damir J. Naden
Well, I've just installed the latest communicator (4.04) using the
netscape install script without any problems...I've just installed all
the packages netscape install script calls for, including libc5 and
libg++27 from /hamm/hamm/binary-i386/oldlibs
But, this report is based only on an hour of running..
BTW, netscape install script is under /hamm/contrib/binary-i386/misc or
utils or somesuch thing (it escapes me now..)

HTH

Damir
> 
> On 10 Jan 1998, William R Ward wrote:
> 
> > Whenever I try to run Netscape, v3 or v4, under my HAMM system I get
> > 'Segmentation Fault'... I suspect it's because it was compiled for
> > libc5 and I'm using libc6.  Any way I can get it to work
>


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Re: Qmail

1998-01-11 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, 10 Jan 1998, Joey Hess wrote:

: Nathan E Norman wrote:
: > What is the Right Way to install qmail on a (production) hamm system?
: 
: Install the qmail-src package. It has a build-qmail script that does all the
: work, and generates a qmail.deb.
: 

Hmm, well, that's pretty slick :)  I have two small problems.

1) Ok, this one's not a problem, just a very minor gripe.  When I built
the deb, the script called "debstd", which I found out was in the
"debmake" package.  Was I supposed to have that installed already?  At
any rate, I caught on rather quick.

2) I've got a couple bo systems that need qmail also ... so that means
I've got to make a libc5 qmail package.  However, I don't have any bo
machines available which are suitable for compilation.  So, my options
are to start the build process on one of the bo systems and come back to
it tomorrow, or to find someone with a libc5 package already.  Anyone
have one?

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What is SLang?

1998-01-11 Thread Tim Thomson
Hi,
My cron.weekly came up with the message:

Terminal not powerful enough for SLang.

What is SLang, and how do I fix this error?

Thanks for any help,

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Re: HELP! Netscape under hamm??

1998-01-11 Thread bhmit1
On 10 Jan 1998, William R Ward wrote:

> Whenever I try to run Netscape, v3 or v4, under my HAMM system I get
> 'Segmentation Fault'... I suspect it's because it was compiled for
> libc5 and I'm using libc6.  Any way I can get it to work

I've had varied results.  My packages probably aren't the most recent hamm
packages (actually, I think I grabbed everything before comming home for
the holidays, in mid-december).  v3 seems to work, but not every time.  v4
has a much harder time.  Also I was having different results from calling
it from the command line and the window manager (but that may have
changed since I upgraded fvwm to hamm).  Results vary from seg faults to
zombie netstat processes.  It relies on quite a few libs:

[EMAIL PROTECTED](p1):bhmit1$ ldd /usr/lib/netscape/netscape
libXt.so.6 => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXt.so.6 (0x4000b000)
libSM.so.6 => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libSM.so.6 (0x4004d000)
libICE.so.6 => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libICE.so.6 (0x40056000)
libXmu.so.6 => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXmu.so.6 (0x4006b000)
libXpm.so.4 => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXpm.so.4 (0x4007d000)
libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXext.so.6 (0x4008b000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libX11.so.6 (0x40096000)
libdl.so.1 => /lib/libdl.so.1 (0x40134000)
libc.so.5 => /lib/libc.so.5 (0x40137000)

communicator has one more:
libm.so.5 => /lib/libm.so.5 (0x401f3000)

When I get a chance, I'll try upgrading these one by one to the latest in
hamm, but that is guaranteed to be a while.  I don't know if this will
help you, but maybe it will get some reactions out of others who know more
about this stuff.

Brandon

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Re: browser with strong encryption?

1998-01-11 Thread Greg Norris
> Does anyone know of a browser with 128-bit encryption.  I need access to a
> site that requires 128-bit encryption (it detects 40 or 56-bit encryption
> and disables features on the site) and I'd hate to have to use win95.
> Does netscape plan to make Navigator or Communicator available with
> 128-bit encryption for linux?  Are there any other options?

Although Netscape v4.04 is not available for Linux with 128-bit
encryption, v4.03 is.  You can download it from Netscape's web site.



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Re: LILO stopped working

1998-01-11 Thread Tim Thomson
On Sat, 10 Jan 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Oh dear, a second person that thinks I'm an expert :-)

Heehee!

> You should copy your 2.0.32 map file to the boot directory I think.
> Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

I guess these would have been in the same directory as the kernel, which
will be gone by now. I removed most of the source as I only have a 100meg
drive.

> Eek, I think this is your problem.  I've never tried to defrag an e2fs
> partition since it does pretty good on its own.

I didn't have a problem with it, (well, I did after I defragged it - I
freaked out when it stopped at the LILO prompt - thought I had trashed
it, after hearing so many horror stories, but I fixed it after 
remembering to reconfigure LILO- (the same way you told the other person).
The only reason I defragged it was because I had removed and
installed lots of files while the drive was near full (only 100meg
drive!).

I was wondering what files in the /boot directory I could remove safely,
like the system map for the old kernel, and what the system map actually
does. What do the files in the /boot dir do? The only file touched since
installing is /boot/map which (I guess) LILO had done, after I
reconfigured it.

BTW, liloconfig is easier to remember than the other command to
reconfigure LILO.

Thanks,

Tim.

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Integrating main, "non-us" ftp site

1998-01-11 Thread Nathan E Norman
If I attempt to do a dselect install via ftp from a local mirror which
has both the main debian distribution as well as the "non-US" stuff, it
doesn't work.  Not without jumping through some serious hoops, at any
rate.

The problem is that the Packages file on the non-US site do not follow
the same conventions as the packages file on the main ftp site.

For bo, the "main" Packages file contains entries like
  "Filename: stable/binary-i386/x11/9fonts_1-4.deb"
 ^^
  "Filename: bo/binary-i386/bzip_0.21-3.deb"
 ^^

For hamm, the "main" Packages file contains entries like 
  "Filename: dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/text/2utf_1.01.deb",
 ^^^
  but the non-US site's Packages file contains entries like
  "Filename: hamm/binary-i386/apache-ssl_1.2.4+1.11-2.deb"
 

I understand (I think) why this is the way it is, but it makes it
impossible to use a symlink to get at the non-US stuff via ftp (using
dselect).  I don't have any great ideas for the bo links, but if the
non-US site kept its files in "dists/unstable/non-us" life would be a
lot easier.

Any chance there will be a solution forthcoming, or do I need to shut up
and hack the Packages files on my mirror?  (Easy to do but mirror will
be pissed).

If no one else has any interest in doing anything like this then it's
not worth implementing, I suppose.

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Re: Supported New Technology

1998-01-11 Thread Greg Norris
>   Diamond Viper v330 AGP

Don't know about the others, but S.U.S.E. has put together an X server
for the Diamond Viper v330 (it's an unaccelerated server, but an
accelerated one is supposed to be in the works).  You can look them up
at http://www.suse.de/XSuSE/XSuSE_E.html



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My man is lost!

1998-01-11 Thread Jeff Gutliph
Just installed Debian last night. 

bash insists that the man command can not be found.

I don't see it either.

What gives?


Help and thanks,

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new computer advice

1998-01-11 Thread Greg Norris
I'm planning to get a new (multiprocessor) computer around the end of the
month, and was hoping for some advice from those of you with more knowledge
than myself.  I've checked the Hardware Compatibility HOWTO, and it appears
that everything I'm looking at is OK (with the exception of the video card
- haven't decided which one to substitute yet), if you know of problems or
things to watch for I'd REALLY be grateful for your advice.  I will (of
course) be running Debian as my primary OS.

Right now, it looks like Micron is where I'll be purchasing it from (though
that isn't absolutely certain).  Here's the main features of what I'm
currently planning on:

-
Dual 300MHz Pentium II
128MB SDRAM
Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI controller
Dual 4GB ultra-wide SCSI HDs
Diamond Fire GL 1000 PCI video (this will probably change)
JAZ drive (internal)
US Robotics x2 modem (need to make sure it's not a winmodem)
3COM 3C905 Ethernet card
Logitec 3-Button mouse
-

If any of you have advice about this, I'd appreciate hearing it.  Thanx!


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Re: Question re:Debian and ppp...

1998-01-11 Thread bhmit1
On Sat, 10 Jan 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> ** Reply to note from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri, 9 Jan 1998 21:57:44 -0500 (EST)
> >   
> > hand, and see what happens when you get past the login.  Also, make sure
> > /etc/resolv.conf is set up correctly.  You should see something like:
> >   
> > Jan  9 20:19:53 cnhobbes pppd[320]: local  IP address 209.96.153.139
> > Jan  9 20:19:53 cnhobbes pppd[320]: remote IP address 209.96.152.32
> >   
> > after the connect.  Then you will have a route to the host and can do your
> > networking.
> 
> Perhaps you can clear up something for me...does the resolv.conf file
> get erased before an ISP connection and then rewritten once the dynamic IP
> connection is made?  Thanks:-)

I should have been clearer that they were two separate points.  You do the
resolv.conf.  The isp needs to return those lines that I showed you.  An
example resolv.conf:

nameserver 206.246.194.1
nameserver 128.239.1.24

While these will work, you should get the ip's of the nameserver(s) at
your isp.

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Re: LILO stopped working

1998-01-11 Thread bhmit1
Oh dear, a second person that thinks I'm an expert :-)

On Sun, 11 Jan 1998, Tim Thomson wrote:

> On Fri, 9 Jan 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >LI   The first stage boot loader was able to load the second stage boot 
> > loader, but has failed to execute it. This can either be caused by a 
> > geometry mismatch or by moving /boot/boot.b without running the map 
> > installer. 

> When I compiled my kernel, I just copied
> the image file from wherever it was in /usr/src/linux to /vmlinuz.
> I had previously renamed the /vmlinuz sym link to /vmlinuz.old
> I have been running my system with the new kernel (2.0.32) for over a
> month now, have had no problems.
> The System.map-2.0.29 is still in /boot, and no later one has been
> installed. The only thing that has changed in awhile is the map file,
> while LILO installed? 

You should copy your 2.0.32 map file to the boot directory I think.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

> after I had defragged my file system.
> What files in /boot do I need? can I remove everything but /boot/map?

Eek, I think this is your problem.  I've never tried to defrag an e2fs
partition since it does pretty good on its own.  But, since defraging
moves files around, and I think lilo only stores the physical location of
the kernel, it will not know where your kernel is.  You have to rerun
lilo.  If you need to, use your installation disk, but do _not_ install
anything.  Switch to a prompt (), mount your root partition, and
do lilo -r , where  is where you mounted your root partition.

HTH,
Brandon

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[install] hdc irq timeout problem

1998-01-11 Thread Ian
Hi Tim,

Thanks for replying so quickly.

As I said before, I'm a complete novice at Debian Linux. Once I'm set up
it'll be a bit better as I have worked on a Unix box before.

System:
Intel 233mmx
32Mb
HD as Primary on 1st controller
Pioneer DR-A24X CDrom as Pri on 2nd
Hd as slave on 2nd

The cdrom is badged as a Pioneer (and shows up on boot as one) but loads
gscdrom.sys so I presume it's got Goldstar connections somewhere.

On boot:

Loading root.bin..
Loading Linux...
hdc shows up as Pioneer
Get past Color screen
Get Release notes
Get detecting hardware settings
Then...

hdc: irq timeout: status=0x51
hdc: irq timeout: error 0x20
hdc: irq timeout: status=0x51
hdc: irq timeout: error 0x20
hdc: irq timeout: status=0x51
hdc: irq timeout: error 0x20
hdc: irq timeout: status=0x51
hdc: irq timeout: error 0x20
hdc: irq timeout: status=0x51
hdc: irq timeout: error 0x20
hdc ATAPI reset complete
hdc: irq timeout: status=0x51
hdc: irq timeout: error 0x20
hdc: irq timeout: status=0x51
hdc: irq timeout: error 0x20
hdc: irq timeout: status=0x51
hdc: irq timeout: error 0x20
hdc: irq timeout: status=0x51
hdc: irq timeout: error 0x20
hdc: irq timeout: status=0x51
hdc: irq timeout: error 0x20
hdc: irq timeout: error 0x20
hdc ATAPI reset complete
end_request: IO/error, dev 16:00, sector 0
hdc: irq timeout: status=0x51
hdc: irq timeout: status=0x51
hdc: irq timeout: status=0x51
hdc: irq timeout: status=0x51
hdc ATAPI reset complete


above 5 lines repeat ad infinitum


Any ideas? Or places to go for help?

I found the archives and read about 3 months-worth, but can't find
anything similar.



Ian

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Re: Qmail

1998-01-11 Thread Joey Hess
Nathan E Norman wrote:
> What is the Right Way to install qmail on a (production) hamm system?

Install the qmail-src package. It has a build-qmail script that does all the
work, and generates a qmail.deb.

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Re: samba -- how?

1998-01-11 Thread Tim Thomson
On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Shaleh wrote:

> I would like to set up samba to my winders machine at work. Is this
> possible?  What permissions do I need? Would it be easier to simply
> setup a ftp server on it?

Do you mean a samba server or client on the Linux box?
Both are possible as I use both on my system.

To install the client, you need to recompile your kernel, saying yes to
the SMB filesystem. You also need to install the package ksmbfs, which has
the mount and unmount programs. You would need a username and password
on the server to be able to mount the drives onto your system.

To install the server, you only need to install the package samba, and 
configure it. I found it reasonably easy to setup, but I have a simple
setup here.

An ftp server on the Linux box is easy to setup, you need an account for
everyone who is going to connect to it, or you can you wu-ftp, and use
anonymous ftp.
An ftp server on the Win machines is possible, there are various ones
available, some shareware ones you could try.

Hope this helps,

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Re: Is there an archive of this list?

1998-01-11 Thread Martin Schulze
On Sat, Jan 10, 1998 at 09:18:18PM -0500, Tim Sailer wrote:
> Ian wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I am *really* new to this list and I'm having problems installing Linux.
> > 
> > Is there an archive of this list I could browse?

Give http://www.de.debian.org/Lists-Archives/ a try

Regards

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Re: HELP! Netscape under hamm??

1998-01-11 Thread Bob Nielsen
On 10 Jan 1998, William R Ward wrote:

> Whenever I try to run Netscape, v3 or v4, under my HAMM system I get
> 'Segmentation Fault'... I suspect it's because it was compiled for
> libc5 and I'm using libc6.  Any way I can get it to work
> 

Install libc5 in addition to libc6.  You can have more than one (except
for -dev, but in that case you can also have the altdev).


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Re: debian ftp crashes redhat

1998-01-11 Thread Joey Hess
Tim Sailer wrote:
> I have a client (an ISP in Maine) that keeps getting a skput error,
> even on a 2.0.33 kernel. This machien is running a web server (Roxen)
> and squid. I wonder if it is a max files problem..

I doubt it, my webserver is lightly loaded, and that particular machine had
no squid. I don't have anything else on here that would tend to use lots of
filehandles.

The problem seemed to happen only when the computer was mostly idle - the
majority of crashes were overnight, the rest would happen when I paused in  
my typing for a few minutes. Very weird.

You could try downgrading to 2.0.29, I never experienced the problem with
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Re: Is there an archive of this list?

1998-01-11 Thread Tim Sailer
Ian wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am *really* new to this list and I'm having problems installing Linux.
> 
> Is there an archive of this list I could browse?
> 
> Or can anyone tell me why I get endless hdc irq timeout messages (cdrom)
> when I try to install?

If it is a NEC or Toshiba 8X or 12X CDRom, it's a problem with
those models. I've returned a few of them, and smashed one on the
floor in frustration about 0300 one morning.

Tim

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Re: debian ftp crashes redhat

1998-01-11 Thread Tim Sailer
Joey Hess wrote:
> 
> Berni Ernst wrote:
> > A RedHat Linux box (2.0.30)
> > 
> > kernel panic: skpush: under: 001a4bf0:2 in swapper task - not syncing.
> 
> Have you tried a newer kernel? I had my machine crash several times when I
> was using 2.0.30, with this error message. (I upgraded to the 2.1 kernels,
> and the problem went away, it might be fixed in 2.0.33 too.)

I have a client (an ISP in Maine) that keeps getting a skput error,
even on a 2.0.33 kernel. This machien is running a web server (Roxen)
and squid. I wonder if it is a max files problem..

Tim

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