Sound & Modem on one ISA Board?

1998-02-18 Thread Timothy M. Hospedales
A friend of mine would like to install Linux; he has a board by creative
that has both sound and modem on it.
Might linux have a problem with this - Is there any reason why it
mightn't work properly with a single board for music & modem?
(It's not one of the IBM DSP things).
Or better yet, has anyone been able, or unable to get one of these to
work?

Thanks,
Timothy.


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Re: Login string FUBAR; what package does this?

1998-02-18 Thread Joost Kooij
On Wed, 18 Feb 1998, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:

> Looking at the mgetty man page (I  suspect you use mgetty and this is where 
> you
> see this prompt) I see:

Nope; this is what I see:

dpkg -l "*getty*"
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems
(Status,Err:uppercase=bad)
||/ NameVersionDescription
+++-===-==-
un  getty(no description available)   
pn  gettyps  (no description available)
pn  mgetty   (no description available)
pn  mgetty-docs  (no description available)
pn  mgetty-fax   (no description available)
pn  mgetty-voice (no description available)
pn  mingetty (no description available)

$ dpkg -S /sbin/getty
util-linux: /sbin/getty
  
A bit confusing. The manpage sais it is in fact agetty. "issue escapes"   
are indeed supported.

[from the mgetty manpage:]

>-i 
>   Outputinstead of /etc/issue before
>   prompting for the user name. The same token substi­
>   tutions  as  for  the  the login prompt are done in
>   this file.

[from the util-linux getty manpage, titled "agetty":]

   -i Do  not  display  the  contents  of  /etc/issue (or
  other) before writing the login  prompt.  Terminals
  or communications hardware may become confused when
  receiving lots of text  at  the  wrong  baud  rate;
  dial-up  scripts  may  fail  if the login prompt is
  preceded by too much text.

   -f issue_file
  Display  the  contents  of  issue_file  instead  of
  /etc/issue.  This allows custom messages to be dis
  played on different terminals.  The -i option  will
  override this option.

> My conclusion is that if any package is at fault, it would be mgetty for using
> special formatting on a file that is used by more that one package/program. As
> far as a fix goes, I believe mgetty should have its own issue file (perhaps
> /etc/mgetty/issue). You could easily do this since you can specify the issue 
> file
> to mgetty while you can't to /bin/login.

Yes, I too think this is sensible. The problem is that the different
getty's have different switches, as you can see from the snippet above.

> NOTE: take a look at 'strings /bin/login | sort -u | less'. There appear to be
> all sorts of things in there that aren't defined or discussed in the man page.
> Looks like we need a new man page.

Hmm, yeah. These aren't mentioned in the manpage:
   %s [-p] -r host
   %s [-p] [-h host] [-f name]

Cheers,


Joost


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Re: Matrox mystique 220 problems

1998-02-18 Thread Daniel Martin at cush
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I have a Matrox mystique 220 videoboard. 
> I have used the xbase, xserver-svga ant the fonts from the bo-updates 
> directory
> on the installation CD.
> I have only installed the standard components in dselect (exept for the X11
> stuff).
> 
> Has anyone experienced the same problems, or have the slightest idea of what's
> wrong?

Yes.  You have a Matrox mystique 220; that's what's wrong.  Although
XFree86 3.3.1 can handle this, Debian 1.3(.x) ships with xfree86 3.3,
which can't handle this card.

Fortunately, however, all is not lost; I have this card and was using
it long before I upgraded to hamm.  You can see a post of mine about 
how I did it by pointing your browser to:

http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-user-9712/msg00142.html

When I talk about the "standard XFree86 3.3.1" in that message, I mean
the Linux XFree86 3.3.1 binaries available from ftp.xfree86.org.  When 
I ask you to do an all-debian install of Xfree86 3.3 in there I mean
the fonts packages, xbase, xserver-vga (yes, xserver-vga - which, by
the way, you can run on the Mystique 220 right now without downloading 
anything - you just can't get better than 640x480), and at least one
window manager (fvwm2 or fvwm95 are good ones to start with).

As a side note, my Mystique 220 showed odd behavior in text mode when
I first got it (characters would begin to drop or add pixels after a
while until the entire screen went black with white squares) until I
ran a (DOS-based) utility (downloaded from the Matrox site) to kick
the flash bios.  I pass this along to the list in case any has had
that (remarkably odd) problem.


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Xemacs configuration question

1998-02-18 Thread Dave Mallery
hi

where do i tell Xemacs about my mail and news server node names??

xemacs-options does not seem to be the spot.

thanx

-=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- 

Dave Mallery, K5EN
po box 520; ramah nm  87321
505-783-4784
running Debian GNU/Linux."Free at last"
winNT: from the people who brought us EDLIN.


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Frozen mouse in X-Windows

1998-02-18 Thread Stuart Smith
Hi. I have a(nother) problem. As implied by the subject line, my mouse
is completely frozen in X-Windows, rendering it very close to useless...

Also, though less major, I can't work out how to set permisions for my
non-root access. It would be nice to be able to dial out to PPP and to
play games that need to write to disk. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks :)




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Re: Login string FUBAR; what package does this?

1998-02-18 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen


Joost Kooij wrote:

> On Wed, 18 Feb 1998, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:
>
> > Ah yes. Welcome to the magic of telnetd/login and getty/login. The first
> > login: prompt is supplied by your getty/telnetd. When you type in your
> > login and hit enter, the getty/telnetd execs /bin/login, passing the
> > username you typed in. If you enter an incorrect login, control does not
> > pass back to your getty/telnetd but instead /bin/login spits out another
> > login: prompt. Pretty clever no? (No.) This is rather annoying but this way
> > of "logging people in" is quite ingrained in unix.
> >
> > Anyway, I believe /bin/login gets the prompt from /etc/issue. Perhaps a bug
> > should be filed regarding '\?' substitution.
>
> Hmm, what package has it all wrong then?
>
> $ dpkg -S /etc/issue
> base-files: /etc/issue
> $ dpkg -S /bin/login
> login: /bin/login

African or European package? Wha

That's a matter of opinion I suspect. There may not be agreement on the point
between the maintainers of these packages. I don't see anything in the 
/bin/login
man page which indicates that replacement will be made for '\?' sequences in
/etc/issue. In fact, the man page doesn't mention /etc/issue at all. A quick 
look
at /etc/login.defs indicates there *is* a variable to control whether or not
/etc/issue is printed before the 'login:' prompt.

Looking at the mgetty man page (I  suspect you use mgetty and this is where you
see this prompt) I see:

   -i 
  Outputinstead of /etc/issue before
  prompting for the user name. The same token substi­
  tutions  as  for  the  the login prompt are done in
  this file.

My conclusion is that if any package is at fault, it would be mgetty for using
special formatting on a file that is used by more that one package/program. As
far as a fix goes, I believe mgetty should have its own issue file (perhaps
/etc/mgetty/issue). You could easily do this since you can specify the issue 
file
to mgetty while you can't to /bin/login.

NOTE: take a look at 'strings /bin/login | sort -u | less'. There appear to be
all sorts of things in there that aren't defined or discussed in the man page.
Looks like we need a new man page.

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Re: MS IntelliPoint

1998-02-18 Thread Ben Pfaff
   I'm sorry if this thread has come up before (which I'm sure it
   has), but I can't seem to find debian-relevent help anywhere. I have an MS
   Intellipoint mouse, and would like to get the wheel to at least fuction as
   a third button, hopefully even use it to scroll.

If you are running the hamm release, there's no need to apply any
patches.  There is an Intellimouse mouse type available under both xf86config
and XF86Setup.  This enables the middle button as a third button when
you push it and as a fourth/fifth button when you scroll up/down with
it.  In a xterm you can use it to scroll up and down.

If you're not running hamm then you'll have to upgrade to hamm in
order to get this feature.


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Autologin.. Not wanted

1998-02-18 Thread Joakim Burman




Hi debian users, 
 
Problem: I am "autologin-ed" as root 
everytime I start Debian.
It doesn´t seems that I have a valued 
"root-account" because of that... 
 
This files do I have 
attached:
 
/etc/inittab
 
ls outputs of:
/etc/init.d
/etc/rc1.d
/etc/rc2.d
/etc/rc3.d
/etc/rc4.d
hope someone can help me...
 
Note: My installation failed when I 
should make a root-password and was forced to reboot with 
"ctrl+alt+del".
 
Thanks
 
/Joakim
 


INITTAB
Description: Binary data


INIT.D
Description: Binary data


RC1.D
Description: Binary data


RC2.D
Description: Binary data


RC3.D
Description: Binary data


RC4.D
Description: Binary data


MS IntelliPoint

1998-02-18 Thread Corey Miller
I'm sorry if this thread has come up before (which I'm sure it
has), but I can't seem to find debian-relevent help anywhere. I have an MS
Intellipoint mouse, and would like to get the wheel to at least fuction as
a third button, hopefully even use it to scroll.

So far the only things that I could find were patches to the
source of X Windows servers and gpm. If this is the only way to do it,
could I get any instruction on how to go about patching and compiling th
source for there programs? Or, is there an easier way to do it under
debian? Thanks for your help,

Corey Miller

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Re: Toshiba Satelite Pro 460 CDX (X server setup)

1998-02-18 Thread Peter S Galbraith

I got it to work with info from 

  http://www.suse.de/~rj/english/tosh440CDX.html

which is a link from a more general laptop page:

  http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/

--

I wrote:

> I'm having trouble configuring X for this notebook PC.
> XF86Setup appears to work, but the resultant /etc/XF86Config doesn't
> work well at all.
> 
> If anyone has a working 800x600 XF86Config file for this notebook, please
> send it to me!
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Re: Login string FUBAR; what package does this?

1998-02-18 Thread Joost Kooij
On Wed, 18 Feb 1998, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:

> Ah yes. Welcome to the magic of telnetd/login and getty/login. The first
> login: prompt is supplied by your getty/telnetd. When you type in your
> login and hit enter, the getty/telnetd execs /bin/login, passing the
> username you typed in. If you enter an incorrect login, control does not
> pass back to your getty/telnetd but instead /bin/login spits out another
> login: prompt. Pretty clever no? (No.) This is rather annoying but this way
> of "logging people in" is quite ingrained in unix.
> 
> Anyway, I believe /bin/login gets the prompt from /etc/issue. Perhaps a bug
> should be filed regarding '\?' substitution.

Hmm, what package has it all wrong then?

$ dpkg -S /etc/issue
base-files: /etc/issue
$ dpkg -S /bin/login
login: /bin/login



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RE: Linux on top of win95

1998-02-18 Thread Hogland, Thomas E.
A simpler way may be to use linload95 - it's a package I downloaded that
allows you to boot Win95, then click an icon and load Linux. I used Alta
Vista to search for Linux Load Win95 and found it on sunsite.unc.edu...
Works well! (And leaves your PC config alone...)

> --
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 4:47 PM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Linux on top of win95
> 
> I know Linux can be installed ontop of a dos partition.  Can it be
> installed on top  of Win 95 or NT. I need to know this because
> although I
> run linux at home my office is NT and 95.  I would like to be able to
> boot
> to linux in the office in order to work on some of my personal
> projects
> when I have free time at lunch or after work.  How safe is this way of
> running Debian?  Is there any chance of it damaging either my office
> computer or the network.  (The network is currently 2 base t, but will
> be
> upgraded to 10 base t)  My boss absolutely refuses to  allow me run
> linux
> as a normal part of the network.  Lets be frank, I want to run linux
> during lunch and after work. But I do not want to lose my job. Can I
> do
> it? How?  Thank You
> 
> 
> 
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Xpixmaps

1998-02-18 Thread Nebu John Mathai

Just wondering whether anything has changed recently with the xpm 4.7
package.

I used to be able to run scilab under twm, but I decided to change to
olvwm and so needed to install xpm but now scilab is messed up giving
BadPixmap!

Has anyone seen this?


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Kernel doesn't boot!!

1998-02-18 Thread Gerardo Lamastra
Hello everybody!

I wonder if anybody has experienced a similar problem: while trying to
install the kernel onto a new machine, the kernel starts booting, it
arrives to the following:

> checking hlt instruction: ok
> ...

Then the machine is suddenly reset and the familiar BIOS screen is shown
again!!

The system is a new Pentium Motherboard: 
BIOS reports that is it a HX 512 KB cache system, also called
Powerboard P586 TX ( ?? )
CPU is Intel Pentium MMX 233
The motherboard supports Bios mastering for IDE devices and has 2 serial
port which can be configured as standard COM or USB Serial Bus port.
I have tried EVERYTHING: starting with bare configuration, disabling
caching, using the safer possible configuration. I have tried to disable
hard disk and boot using only floppy disk (boot + root).
I have tried different kernels, from Slackware, Debian and RedHat.
I have tried also the new 2.31.0 kernel.

The really strange thing is Win95 (OSR 2) boots without any problem and
withu t using any non-standard configuration.

Is it possible that Linux cannot do what Win95 does ? I won't believe it,
but I actually need to change motherboard to have a fully working system.
(The other devices should not be involved in the problem, perhaps only
serial ports can do some mess, but I think this is very unprobable)

Is anybody who knows something about this motherboard model... I can try
to dig other info, but it is very difficult since Linux suddenly reset the
system and it is very difficult to read what is displaying. Is it possible
to redirect kernel output at boot on a serial line, and if so, is it
possible to read it easily, for example using another Linux box ?

Thanks everybody!

Gerardo



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Re: Login string FUBAR; what package does this?

1998-02-18 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Ah yes. Welcome to the magic of telnetd/login and getty/login. The first
login: prompt is supplied by your getty/telnetd. When you type in your
login and hit enter, the getty/telnetd execs /bin/login, passing the
username you typed in. If you enter an incorrect login, control does not
pass back to your getty/telnetd but instead /bin/login spits out another
login: prompt. Pretty clever no? (No.) This is rather annoying but this way
of "logging people in" is quite ingrained in unix.

Anyway, I believe /bin/login gets the prompt from /etc/issue. Perhaps a bug
should be filed regarding '\?' substitution.

Joost Kooij wrote:

> Hi,
>
> For quite a while now I've been looking at this and I don't quite know
> where even to look to fix it.
>
> This is what happens:
>
> --begin---
> Debian GNU/Linux 2.0 (unstable)  pc47 tty2
>
> pc47 login: kooij
> Password:
> Login incorrect
> Debian GNU/\s 2.0 (unstable)  \n \l
>
> pc47 login:
> Debian GNU/Linux 2.0 (unstable)  pc47 tty2
>
> pc47 login:
> --end--
>
> When I get a second login prompt, it is messed up.
>
> What? When? How? Why?

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Toshiba Satelite Pro 460 CDX (X server setup)

1998-02-18 Thread Peter S Galbraith
I'm having trouble configuring X for this notebook PC.
XF86Setup appears to work, but the resultant /etc/XF86Config doesn't
work well at all.

If anyone has a working 800x600 XF86Config file for this notebook, please
send it to me!
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Login string FUBAR; what package does this?

1998-02-18 Thread Joost Kooij
Hi,

For quite a while now I've been looking at this and I don't quite know
where even to look to fix it.

This is what happens:

--begin---
Debian GNU/Linux 2.0 (unstable)  pc47 tty2

pc47 login: kooij
Password:
Login incorrect
Debian GNU/\s 2.0 (unstable)  \n \l


pc47 login:
Debian GNU/Linux 2.0 (unstable)  pc47 tty2

pc47 login:
--end--

When I get a second login prompt, it is messed up. 

What? When? How? Why?

Cheers,


Joost


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Re: Monitoring ppp0 Packets

1998-02-18 Thread Robert D. Hilliard
Try /usr/sbin/pppstats, from the ppp package.

Bob

On Wed, 18 Feb 1998, "Ian Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I would like to know if there is a way where I can monitor the number of
> ppp0 packets transmitted and received as a continuous update on the screen.
>  Similar to the way the tail command will show the last entries in a file
> as they happen.  I know I can use ifconfig to show the number at an
> instant, but I do not know how to do this on a continuous basis.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Ian
> 
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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Pentium II performance?

1998-02-18 Thread Martin Oldfield

My PII-300 system, which has an Intel AL440LX motherboard runs the
benchmark thus:

joanna% gcc -v
Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3/specs
gcc version 2.7.2.3
joanna% gcc -O2 flops.c -o flops
joanna% ./flops
  -5.4193e-130.1407 99.5369
joanna% ./flops
  -5.4193e-130.1407 99.4685
joanna% gcc -O6 flops.c -o flops6

This is on a 2.0.32, libc6 system.

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HDDs & Linux (please reply to mansoft@maptel.es)

1998-02-18 Thread Alex Maneu Victoria
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Hello.

I have a doubt. Let's see:

Let's imagine that I have 2 hard disks in my computer, each one of 1GB
of capacity.
Let's also imagine that I want to install Linux & Windoze 95, but I want
the windows partition to be 1,5GB (that is to say, one disk and a half).
How should I partition my disks? (let's suppose that there's nothing
installed). How should I install Linux, after all? Should I create a
partition for one disk, and then on the other disk another partition for
windows and the rest for linux? If so, how could Windows work (I mean,
not to work, but, at leat, to boot :)


Any help is appreciated.
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cgiwrap

1998-02-18 Thread Pure Energy
Please reply to me aswell as I'm currently not on this list
([EMAIL PROTECTED])

I have the cgiwrap running greatly. It was fun getting it to work for the
chroot environment part of my server uses aswell as the permissions. I
still have a few questions and interested in what others think.

Has anyone setup cgiwrap with apache to be transparent? (ie. so users can
still do www.domain.net/~user/cgi-bin/script.cgi). I noticed that there
was someway to do it with the handlers in apaches conf files but I just
got errors. 

I was also thinking of running cgi's not from the aliased cgi-bin through
apache (www-data) but from a virtual host under a new  user/group cgi
(cgi.domain.net). This would be where system cgi's (forms/system wide
counter) would run from). The reason would be so the server doesn't have
to be exposed as much by running cgi's itself. Has anyone set this up? Any
comments/suggestions about this? Is it worth setting up for added
server security?



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Re: FW: Unidentified subject!

1998-02-18 Thread Charles Briscoe-Smith
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, RUSSELL COOK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>The following script shows my attempts to read my mail using mailx.  =
>Results are the same for mail.  Is the command 'p' used to print the =
>message to the terminal, as the man page states?  I have been utterly =
>unsuccessful in reading my mail under Linux, resorting to windows for =
>that purpose.  I also am still struggly to get sendmail properly =
>configured.

I had the same problem.  I think it's a bug in mailx.  Want to report
it as a bug?

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Re: Linux on top of win95

1998-02-18 Thread David Wright
On Wed, 18 Feb 1998, Sen Nagata wrote:

> at some point around Tue, 17 Feb 98 20:07:11 -0600
> Asher Haig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mentioned:
> 
> > If you set up LILO when you install it, and then tell LILO how to find 
> > the Windows partition, you can easily do a dual boot. Superior to doing 
> ^
> > UMS partitions.
>   ^^
> could you be more specific about what you mean here?

It's not clear to me what was meant in the original question by running 
linux "on top of" dos. If, by this, [EMAIL PROTECTED] means running 
linux with a filesystem rooted in C:\LINUX under UMSDOS, then AFAIK this 
is easily installable with Slackware but not Debian. (I've done the 
former, but wouldn't know where to start the latter.) Mounting UMSDOS 
partitions is as easy as most things are in Debian; just compile support 
into the kernel and install the package.

So, to answer the original question (I know Linux can be installed on top 
of a dos partition.  Can it be installed on top  of Win 95 or NT.), I've not 
heard of an equivalent to UMSDOS for non-FAT16 filesystem, and that's 
what's critical. So a qualified yes to W95.

Running linux "alongside" MS os's is an issue that's widely covered in 
FAQs and HOWTOs, with all the booting ramifications.

> my experience has been that it really depends on your situation.  i'd like
> to know if i'm missing out on something fundamental.
> 
> my personal experience has been that being able to use a umsdos partition 
> under both dos/w95 and linux is quite handy given the limited size of some 
> hard disks -- i can easily store stuff to use w/ either operating system
> w/ this setup.
> 
> i am using loadlin and a custom config.sys/autoexec.bat setup to do
> dual-boots, and find this to be quite usable.
> 
> -sen
> 
> p.s. for those interested, details of the set up i'm using at:
> 
> http://www.htp.org/~sen/debian/hu2/install.html

I don't see where UMSDOS comes into this. You've got your root on an ext2 
partition, but you've kept a dos partition which you probably mount with 
something like
/dev/hda1 /dosc msdos noexec 0 0
in /etc/fstab. Would that be correct?

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Re: Linux on top of win95

1998-02-18 Thread C.J.LAWSON
At the risk of apearing to be knit-picking, I ask
(1) How much mempry do you consider as a lot ... from what I can remember
16Mb was sufficient to do away with the swap file (probably except if
you are runnig X ..)

(2) would a seperate drive be faster than a swap file on the same disk?
... This has been a long standing issue between a friend and I

Jon.

On Wed, 18 Feb 1998, Ralph Winslow wrote:

> > Is that absolutely neccessary ... one for swap??
> 
> A separate drive certainly isn't (though it wiould improve performance)
> but unless you have a lot of memory, a swap partition is EXTREMELY


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Re: SNMP agent w/Multible Interfaces?

1998-02-18 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
What variable are you planning to look at, 
mib-2.transmission.dot3.dot3CollTable?
The version of the snmp agent I've got doesn't have this part of the mib. Maybe
newer versions than I've got have it.

Anthony Landreneau wrote:

> Greetings,
> I have a situation where I would like to SNMP monitor the IPX traffic 
> on
> several floors of an office complex. Each floor has it's own collision
> domain. I could put a DEBIAN PC on each floor and run the systems SNMP
> agent, which should give me the information I will be looking for.  However
> I was wondering if the SNMP agent that I can use with DEBIAN is capable of
> monitoring more than one interface in a single machine.  It would be MUCH
> easier to have one DEBIAN box connected to all four domains and have a
> single SNMP agent report on each interface.
> Any help, suggestions or comments are welcome in this matter.
>
> Anthony Landreneau
> Network Engineer
> Infinity Data System
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Kernel compilation

1998-02-18 Thread Santiago Vila
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On 18 Feb 1998, Jan Vroonhof wrote:

> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Hi Manoj, thanks for make-kpkg I like it a lot. Especially the fact
> that your own kernel a full fledged package.
> 
> > 
> >Disadvantages of using make-kpkg
> >- -- - -
> > 
> >   i) This is a cookie cutter approach to compiling kernels, and
> >  there are paople who like being close to the bare metal.
> >  ii) This is not how it is done in the non-Debian world. This
> >  flaunts tradition.
> 
> 
> iii) Doing it this way forces you to be root to do a kernel compile.
> 
> I know this probably more of a problem with the packaging system
> itself. However it would be very nice if this could be changed. There
> should be no need to be root to compile a kernel, only when installing 
> it.

You may use fakeroot, so iii) is not really a limitation.

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Re: Dselect problems on a new FTP installtion.

1998-02-18 Thread Joost Kooij
On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, Mohamed Ishan wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I just upgraded my redhat to debian 1.3.1, but for some odd reason (is 
> this cause of a package I've installed?) I seem to get the following 
> error when I tried to run dselect again (for ftp installation).
> 
> ***
> Can't locate loadable object for module IO in @INC (@INC contains: 
> /usr/lib/perl5/i386-linux/5.004 /usr/lib/perl5 
> /usr/local/lib/site_perl/i386-linux /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at 
> /usr/lib/perl5/IO/Handle.pm line 241
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/IO/Socket.pm line 106.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/Net/FTP.pm line 378.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/setup line 7.
> 
> query/setup script returned error exit status 2.
> Press RETURN to continue.
> 
> ***
> 
> If this is cause of some other package overwriting the installation 
> packages..what other package should I download to fix this problem?

I'm afraid you might have to hand-install some parts of perl again (with
dpkg -i perl*.deb) Specifically, reinstall the main perl .deb and
libnet and possibly dpkg-ftp.

If that still doesn't work, try removing the /usr/lib/perl5/IO/Handle.pm
file (move it temporarily away to another place where it is not in perl's
include path.) I remember that recently there were similar problems with
the upgrade to the pre-2.0 (unstable) distribution. It's not really the
same situation as with 1.3.1 debian, but it might work for you too.

If it doesn't work, feel free to complain rather loudly on this list. Perl
is an important package that should not be broken.

Cheers,


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Pentium compiler

1998-02-18 Thread boeing

Dear experts,

I'd really like to switch from gcc to pgcc from the Pentium Compiler
Group. (I used their pre-compiled gzip and it's really better than the
'standard one'...) As I have no experience with libraries and there
seems to be no Debian package around for pgcc (please give me a hint
if I'm wrong here!) I've two questions:

1) What is the best way to install the precompiled binaries packed in
   a gzipped tar file.

2) Can I break anything by installing this Pentium-gcc-version that
   can't be undone by reinstalling the Debian gcc package?

Of course I'd prefer to install a Debian package. If there's none yet
is it intended to build one soon?

Thanx a lot for your help and advise!

Harald


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SNMP agent w/Multible Interfaces?

1998-02-18 Thread Anthony Landreneau
Greetings,
I have a situation where I would like to SNMP monitor the IPX traffic on
several floors of an office complex. Each floor has it's own collision
domain. I could put a DEBIAN PC on each floor and run the systems SNMP
agent, which should give me the information I will be looking for.  However
I was wondering if the SNMP agent that I can use with DEBIAN is capable of
monitoring more than one interface in a single machine.  It would be MUCH
easier to have one DEBIAN box connected to all four domains and have a
single SNMP agent report on each interface.
Any help, suggestions or comments are welcome in this matter.

Anthony Landreneau
Network Engineer
Infinity Data System
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Re: dpkg --help | less

1998-02-18 Thread Daniel Mashao
On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, Igor Grobman wrote:

> 
> > On Tue, 17 Feb 98, "IW" == IAN WATKINS wrote:
> 
>   IW> On my system the dpkg --help seems to come out on the wrong console. For
>   IW> instance if I do a dpkg --help | less then less doesn't seem to come 
> into
try
dpkg --help |& less

for tcsh

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Re: Monitoring ppp0 Packets

1998-02-18 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
while true
do
  grep ppp0 /proc/net/dev
  sleep 1
done

Ian Perry wrote:

> I would like to know if there is a way where I can monitor the number of
> ppp0 packets transmitted and received as a continuous update on the screen.
>  Similar to the way the tail command will show the last entries in a file
> as they happen.  I know I can use ifconfig to show the number at an
> instant, but I do not know how to do this on a continuous basis.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ian
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Re: Kernel compilation

1998-02-18 Thread Jan Vroonhof
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


Hi Manoj, thanks for make-kpkg I like it a lot. Especially the fact
that your own kernel a full fledged package.

> 
>  Disadvantages of using make-kpkg
>  - -- - -
> 
>   i) This is a cookie cutter approach to compiling kernels, and
>  there are paople who like being close to the bare metal.
>  ii) This is not how it is done in the non-Debian world. This
>  flaunts tradition.


iii) Doing it this way forces you to be root to do a kernel compile.

I know this probably more of a problem with the packaging system
itself. However it would be very nice if this could be changed. There
should be no need to be root to compile a kernel, only when installing 
it.

Just wanted it said once

Jan


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Re: NVidia Riva 128

1998-02-18 Thread Dale Smith
On Tue, 17 Feb 1998 23:03:30 -0500 (EST), you wrote:

>Was wondering if anyone has had experience with this card on Debian
>systems.  I've (kinda-sorta) got the SuSE X server running, but things
>seem to be a bit weird and I was wondering if anyone on the list had
>already got it working perfectly, before I try and do all the legwork
>myself.

What kind of weird?  I recently installed the SuSE server with help from this
list and have had no problems.

Dale
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Re: Monitoring ppp0 Packets

1998-02-18 Thread Frank Barknecht
Ian Perry hat gesagt: // Ian Perry wrote:

> I would like to know if there is a way where I can monitor the number of
> ppp0 packets transmitted and received as a continuous update on the screen.
>  Similar to the way the tail command will show the last entries in a file
> as they happen.  I know I can use ifconfig to show the number at an
> instant, but I do not know how to do this on a continuous basis.


pppload is a nice utility to monitor the ppp link in a style similar to xload.
But of course this is not like "tail -f" so maybe it's not what you need.
(Try pppstats instead)
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Re: Linux on top of win95

1998-02-18 Thread Ralph Winslow
C.J.LAWSON wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 18 Feb 1998, Mike Barker wrote:
> 
> > would suggest using a sperate partion or drive for Linux, you'll need
> > one for swap anyway.  I have win95, 2 versions of NT (workstaion 4 and
> Is that absolutely neccessary ... one for swap??

A separate drive certainly isn't (though it wiould improve performance)
but unless you have a lot of memory, a swap partition is EXTREMELY
desirable.
> 
> J.
> 
> > Michael Barker
> > Technician
> > ATL Systems
> >
> > > -Original Message-
 
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Re: Autologin..not wanted..

1998-02-18 Thread Ralph Winslow
Joakim Burman wrote:
> 
> Hi debian-users,
> 
> I have some problem after I by a mistake downgraded ldso 1.9.x-->1.8.x
> The hole system breaked and I was forced to do a new installation with the
> rescue-floppy. I leaved the old filesystem unchanged and installed the
> base-system and made a boot-floppy. Then after reboot, when I was prompted
> for a "root-password", it did not seem to work. I was not passed to the
> system, I was just prompted for a password so I had to reboot by
> "ctrl+alt+del". Now I am "autologged-in" as root!!? And since then I´ve bin
> automaticly logged-in as "root"!

Have you removed the boot-floppy from the diskette drive? It sounds like
you're coming up in single-user or emergency mode.  If you remove the
diskette and re-boot, you can enter passwd and your desired root
password twice to get your desired root password re-instated, then do
"shutdown -g0
-i6 -y" to reboot and order may be restored.  If not, edit /etc/inittab,
check your default run-level, and set it to 3 or 4 and re-boot again.
If that doesn't work out, post your /etc/inittab, the outputs of ls
/etc/init.d, ls /etc/rc1.d, ls /etc/rc2.d, ls /etc/rc3.d, and if you set
default run-level to 4, ls /etc/rc4.d and we'll proceed.
> 
> When I do "/usr/sbin/pppd" I get "/etc/ppp/ppp-connect ;permission denied"
> in /etc/ppp/connect-errors!. I have set ppp-connect to chmod 600 and chown
> root.root.

Do an id command to assure that you're really root.  Read
/usr/doc/ppp/README.Debian to find out all you need to know about ppp.
Use pon to start ppp (once you're sure your /etc/ppp.chatscript is OK).
Post again with detail on what you've done and your results if you
aren't successful.   HTH
> 
> Has this something to do with "the autologg-in"? I don´t have a valued
> root-account?
> 
> Furthermore: When I do the "more" command I get a "Broken pipe" error..
> 
> Do I have to reinstall the hole system from scratch?
> 
> thanks
> /Joakim
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Re: netscape for debian?

1998-02-18 Thread Ralph Winslow
K.Y.Lo wrote:
> 
> Where do I get Netscape for Debian Linux?

Go to the netscape site and download either of:

netscape-v301-export.x86-unknown-linux-elf.tar.gz

-or-

communicator-v403-us.x86-unknown-linux.2.0.tar.gz

Move (or copy) your chosen package to /tmp and make it be
owned by root.

Then install the netscape (for netscape...) or netscape-beta (for
communicator...) package.  Bob appetit!  HTH
> 
> i know about FTP
> 
> thank you
> 
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> Cheers
> 
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RE: Linux on top of win95

1998-02-18 Thread C.J.LAWSON


On Wed, 18 Feb 1998, Mike Barker wrote:

> would suggest using a sperate partion or drive for Linux, you'll need
> one for swap anyway.  I have win95, 2 versions of NT (workstaion 4 and
Is that absolutely neccessary ... one for swap?? 

J.

> Michael Barker
> Technician
> ATL Systems
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent:   Wednesday, February 18, 1998 2:48 PM
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject:Linux on top of win95
> > 
> > I know Linux can be installed ontop of a dos partition.  Can it be
> > installed on top  of Win 95 or NT. I need to know this because
> > although I
> > run linux at home my office is NT and 95.  I would like to be able to
> > boot
> > to linux in the office in order to work on some of my personal
> > projects
> > when I have free time at lunch or after work.  How safe is this way of
> > running Debian?  Is there any chance of it damaging either my office
> > computer or the network.  (The network is currently 2 base t, but will
> > be
> > upgraded to 10 base t)  My boss absolutely refuses to  allow me run
> > linux
> > as a normal part of the network.  Lets be frank, I want to run linux
> > during lunch and after work. But I do not want to lose my job. Can I
> > do
> > it? How?  Thank You
> > 
> > 
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Re: How to setup Linux Network

1998-02-18 Thread pai

You are probably using a plug and play network card. So you will have to
boot into DOS and the warmboot into Linux using Loadlin, or you will have
to use something called isapnptools. Pl see www.debian.org for details.


On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, Dai Jian Jun wrote:

> >Hi,
> 
> >I am a newer of Linux , I have already download the
> >   base-1.bin  base-2.bin  base-3.bin  base-4.bin  base-5.bin
> >   resc1440.bin   drv1440.bin
> >and install the them on a compaq 4/66  ,
> >I configed the network about ip address , gateway and ethernet
> >network card etc   , and then install the  base-1 to base-5
> >diskettes (is my installation right ), I can login as root and
> >my personal account , but the problem is appeared
> 
> >I CAN NOT RUN FTP/PING/TELNET etc THAT THE SYSTEM TOLD ME THE
> >NETWORK UNREACHABLE
> 
> >where is the problem , how can i solve it ? by the way what is the
> >usage of base1_3.tgz
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Autologin..not wanted..

1998-02-18 Thread Joakim Burman
Hi debian-users,

I have some problem after I by a mistake downgraded ldso 1.9.x-->1.8.x
The hole system breaked and I was forced to do a new installation with the 
rescue-floppy. I leaved the old filesystem unchanged and installed the 
base-system and made a boot-floppy. Then after reboot, when I was prompted 
for a "root-password", it did not seem to work. I was not passed to the 
system, I was just prompted for a password so I had to reboot by 
"ctrl+alt+del". Now I am "autologged-in" as root!!? And since then I´ve bin 
automaticly logged-in as "root"! 

When I do "/usr/sbin/pppd" I get "/etc/ppp/ppp-connect ;permission denied" 
in /etc/ppp/connect-errors!. I have set ppp-connect to chmod 600 and chown 
root.root.

Has this something to do with "the autologg-in"? I don´t have a valued 
root-account?

Furthermore: When I do the "more" command I get a "Broken pipe" error.. 

Do I have to reinstall the hole system from scratch?

thanks
/Joakim


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Re: PPP still a pain

1998-02-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Feb 17, 1998 at 04:06:26PM -0800, tony mollica wrote:
> When the system boots, is there a ttyS2 entry with the associated 
> interrupt listed?
> 
> cat /proc/interrupts won't display an interrupt that is not currently in
> use.
> The modem would have to be working before you can get it to show up in
> the list.
> 
> Have you tried dialing out using any other programs, such as minicom?

"setserial /dev/ttyS2" should tell you the IRQ it is using.
Note that /etc/rc.boot/0setserial does not do IRQ probes for ttyS2
and ttyS3 by default, you have to enable it by editing the file.
(The default of 4 & 3 respectively is used.)

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Re: IP Masquerading

1998-02-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Feb 17, 1998 at 09:12:57AM -0700, Steve Mayer wrote:
> I may be wrong here, but with your source mask set at
> xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/32, the only packets that will make it through are
> broadcast packets.  What happens if you change the source address to
> xxx.xxx.xxx.0/24.  Someone enlighten me if I've foobar'd this.

/32 means just one host (0 significant bits out of 32).

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > In the firewall i've done
> >  #ipfwadm -F -p deny
> >  #ipfwadm -F -a m -S xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/32 -D 0.0.0.0/0
> > 
> > and in the "client" machine i've set up the gateway pointing to de
> > firewall machine.

Looks fine to me.


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netscape for debian?

1998-02-18 Thread K.Y.Lo
Where do I get Netscape for Debian Linux?

i know about FTP


thank you


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Re: good morning

1998-02-18 Thread Oliver Elphick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  >I seek a CD ROM drivers (pioneer x10)for debian 
  >do you know where I can find it?
  >have you got some address web?
  >
CD-ROM drivers are part of the Linux kernel.  Most modern drives are either
IDE or SCSI; in both cases the drivers are included in the kernel source
and merely need to be configured in when you build your own.

The standard Debian kernel contains support for IDE CD-ROM.

Even if you have something different, you will probably find a driver for it
in the kernel source.

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CD-ROM drivers was: Re: good morning

1998-02-18 Thread Carey Evans
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I seek a CD ROM drivers (pioneer x10)for debian 

What kind of CD-ROM is the Pioneer?  If it's an ATAPI (IDE) CD-ROM,
plug it into the motherboard's IDE interface and it should be seen
automatically, like with my Mitsumi:

% dmesg | less
[...]
hda: WDC AC22000L, 1907MB w/256kB Cache, CHS=3876/16/63, DMA
hdc: FX600T, ATAPI CDROM drive
[...]

I use /dev/hdc to access it when programs ask where it is.

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Re: Printer

1998-02-18 Thread Carey Evans
BRIAN SCHRAMM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>  I just 'inherited' an IBM Laserprinter E.  I have no manual for it and
>  tried to find out about it on the IBM web site to no avail.  Does
>  anyone know what GS settings I would use to drive this printer?  I
>  would love to set it up so I can share it with my systems here.

An old IBM laser printer is probably made by (what is now) Lexmark.

To start with I would suggest you try some kind of PCL5 output, like
an HP Laserjet.  If you're unlucky, it uses PPDS (personal printer
data stream) and I don't know how to print to that.

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Re: Man does not display tables

1998-02-18 Thread Jens Ritter
Niccolo Rigacci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
> I installed Debian 1.3.1 from the Official CD. I installed the packages
> that dselect suggests.
> 
> I found that the man program don't understand some tags. For example in
> the /usr/man/man4/console_codes.4.gz file I see the following that is
> supposed to be a table:
> 
[man source deleted]
> But when I run "man console_codes" I get the following output:
> 
>ESC- but not CSI-sequences
>l l l.  ESC  c RIS  Reset.   ESC  D IND  Linefeed.
>ESC  ENEL  Newline.   ESC  H HTS  Set  tab stop at
>current column.   ESC  M RI   Reverse  linefeed.   ESC
>Z DECID DEC  private  identification.  The  kernel
> 

This is not present in the soon to come Debian 2.0 (code freeze is
scheduled for march).

I will add this to the debian user FAQ on 
http://www.debian.org/cgi-bin/fom?file=1&showEditCmds=1

Thanks,

Jens
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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Pentium II performance?

1998-02-18 Thread Mario Filipe

On 17-Feb-98 Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:
> On 16 Feb 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> 
>> Can you point me to the source code for the benchmark?  I can run it
>> on my PII/233 for comparison if you want.
> 
> and Alex Yukhimets:
> 
>> Same here, only with PII/300.
> 
> You can find the source code here:
> 
>http://www.efis.ucr.ac.cr/~mmagallo/flops_p.c
> 
> This is extracted from the flops program written by Al Burto
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). This is just module 1, using 7 sums, 6 mults, 1 div.
> I think I got this from http://www.hensa.ac.uk/parallel/ or netlib.
> 
> Compiling with gcc -O2 gives a bit more than 39 on the PII. Using egcc
> (1.0.1-0.3) with -mpentiumpro gives almost 40.9

What chipset are you using. The older chipsets have very bad
performance with the PII! I heard that to use the PII in it's full power you
need an LX chipset or above (?)!

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Re: Problems installing Debian from 1.3.1 CDROM

1998-02-18 Thread Jonas
Jonas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Sorry, but my original message was a bit corrupted. Heres what it
should have said:

> I'm trying to install debian from the Official 1.3.1 distribution,
> unfortunately the setup routines cannot mount my cdrom.
> 
> The CDROM is detected (as /dev/hdd) but when it comes to mount the
> CDROM to install Debian, I get the following message:
> 
> Bad logical zone size 1
> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/cdrom,
>or too many mounted file systems
> 

I can install Debian (to a certain extent by copying the contents of
the CDROM to the Harddrive but this screws up the symbolic links and
file names. However I still cannot mount the CDROM.

> 
> My PC is based around an AMD-K6 200Mhz and a SOYO 5BT5 motherboard
> which uses the INTEL TX chipset. Under the previous setup (a Pentium
> 75Mhz and unnamed motherboard, the CDROM worked fine.
> 
> Does anyone have any ideas or solutions?
> TIA

BTW I am booting from the CDROM to install debian. I have just tried
installing Redhat 5.0 and have come up against the same problem.

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good morning

1998-02-18 Thread PASLAUR
I seek a CD ROM drivers (pioneer x10)for debian 
do you know where I can find it?
have you got some address web?

thank you.
best regards,


Pascal.


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SCSI: queue status

1998-02-18 Thread nimennor
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I've been getting the following during the bootup for a while now, 
just got around to ask what this actually means.
- 
aha152x: processing commandline: ok
aha152x: BIOS test: passed, detected 1 controller(s)
aha152x0: vital data: PORTBASE=0x340, IRQ=9, SCSI ID=7, reconnect=enabled, 
parity=enabled, synchronous=disabled, delay=100, extended translation=disabled
aha152x: trying software interrupt, ok.
scsi0 : Adaptec 152x SCSI driver; $Revision: 1.18 $
scsi : 1 host.
  Vendor: EXABYTE   Model: EXB-8505  Rev: 0051
  Type:   Sequential-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi tape st0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 2, lun 0
scsi : detected 1 SCSI tape total.
aha152x: ignoring spurious interrupt, nothing to do
QUEUE STATUS:
issue_SC:
current_SC:
none
disconnected_SC:

waiting: SCSISEQ (); SCSISIG (DATA OUT); INTSTAT (lo); SSTAT (SELINGO BUSFREE 
PHASECHG ); SSTAT (); SXFRCTL0 (CH1 ); SIGNAL (); SELID (ff), SSTAT2 (SEMPTY ); 
SFCNT (0); SCSICNT (0), OFFCNT(0), SSTAT4 (); DMACNTRL0 (16BIT PIO READ ); 
DMASTAT (DFIFOEMP )
enabled interrupts ()
- 

This seems like init is asking a status of SCSI, but SCSI still
waits for something.  
What I'm worried about, is weather or not this message will have
any affect on backups ( _thats_ the thing you don't want to mess with ).  

Is this a status/warning/error/panic message?


Thanks, 
Nikita.

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Re: Dselect problems on a new

1998-02-18 Thread IAN WATKINS

MI> Can't locate loadable object for module IO in @INC (@INC contains:
MI> /usr/lib/perl5/i386-linux/5.004 /usr/lib/perl5
MI> /usr/local/lib/site_perl/i386-linux /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at
MI> /usr/lib/perl5/IO/Handle.pm line 241
MI> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/IO/Socket.pm lin
MI> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/Net/FTP.pm line
MI> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/setup

MI> query/setup script returned error exit status 2.
MI> Press RETURN to continue.

MI> ***

MI> If this is cause of some other package overwriting the installation
MI> packages..what other package should I download to fix this problem?

I think that this is indicative that the complete PERL installation 
hasn't been done. I had this when FTPing a stable->unstable upgrade. I'm 
sorry I don't have any more details than that, but are you aware of any 
PERL stuff that is required that hasn't been installed?

I hope at least that this points you in the right direction.

Regards,

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Re: Monitoring ppp0 Packets

1998-02-18 Thread Joey Hess
Ian Perry wrote:
> I would like to know if there is a way where I can monitor the number of
> ppp0 packets transmitted and received as a continuous update on the screen.
>  Similar to the way the tail command will show the last entries in a file
> as they happen.  I know I can use ifconfig to show the number at an
> instant, but I do not know how to do this on a continuous basis.

Either tcpdump, or (more likely), trafshow will probably do what you want.

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Re: Questions...

1998-02-18 Thread Oliver Elphick
Julian Morcinek wrote:
  >
  >[Julian Morcinek]  I took a interest in this post as I will be belatedly upg
  >rading my current Debian 1.1 installation (a dream - trouble free for ov
  >er 2 years!).  Just three questions:
  >
  >1.   Are they any major reasons why the new libc version in release 2.0.x (h
  >amm) should be preferred over the libc version on 1.3.x (bo)?

glibc 2 (aka libc6) is a new standard, which we should expect to see
adopted, in time, by other Unix vendors, not just Linux.

Programs that are compiled against libc6 won't run without it.

All of hamm will be libc6, and if you don't upgrade, you will be at
a dead end, unless you compile everything for yourself.  Even then you
may find you have extra work to do to get things to compile.

  >
  >2.  What does changing mean (viz a viz hamm)?  Does it mean that not all the
  > existing packages have been upgraded for the new libc, and that ugraded
  > packages will 'trickle through' over a period of time?  And does this m
  >ean frequent visits to the FTP server to download those hard-to-do-witho
  >ut packages?

hamm is all libc6.  Over the past year or so, all packages should have
been recompiled for libc6 and these are what you will find in hamm.
A code freeze has just been pre-announced for late March, so we're nearly
there.  

Once Debian 2.0 is released, the easiest way to upgrade will be to buy
a new CD, unless you're on a really fast Internet link.

Changing means going through a carefully defined process to install
versions of libc5 packages that can co-exist with libc6 and then 
installing libc6 and then the rest of the packages.  (See the instructions
in http://www.debian.org/doc/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html
and follow them exactly.  There is also a script that can be used, at
http://www.debian.org/devel/autoup.sh.  WARNING: follow instructions
exactly, or you make your system unusable!)


  >
  >3. How long does it take, on average - if there is such a thing, for hamm to
  > become bo?

The development will have taken (at least?) a year. I think it was already
begun when I started using Debian in early 1997.

If you are asking how long it will take to install, that would depend on your
machine... It took me half a day to install bo on a 486 using a network
connection.
  >
  >My interest is that of a contented Linux, as opposed to other OS's I adminis
  >ter, administrator.  I really don't have to work too hard on my Linux bo
  >x, and I ain't a Unix/Linux Guru.  What now attracts me to Debian Linux 
  >is its proven, in my case, low maintainability.  Now isn't that a unique
  > selling point?
 
It's why I've stuck with Debian. (It's also very satisfying to be able to
contribute to the distribution I use.)

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Re: dpkg --help | less

1998-02-18 Thread IAN WATKINS

II>   IW> Is this correct behaviour or am I missing something? AFAICT al
II>   IW> other packages I have done a | less on to get the help have wo
II>   IW> expected.

II> Dpkg --help prints on stderr, not on stdout as most others do. This
II> expected behavior, and a bug is already filed.

Right. Thanks.

Any ideas when it might be fixed? I suppose I could look at myself. 

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Matrox mystique 220 problems

1998-02-18 Thread Mats . Bergman
Hello,

I've tried to run X on my newly installed Debian system, but the computer
crashes befor X starts. I get the error message:

xinit: Interrupted system call (errno 4): unexpected signal 1
waiting for X server to shutdown...

I have a Matrox mystique 220 videoboard. 
I have used the xbase, xserver-svga ant the fonts from the bo-updates directory
on the installation CD.
I have only installed the standard components in dselect (exept for the X11
stuff).

Has anyone experienced the same problems, or have the slightest idea of what's
wrong?

Please help!

/Mats


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Auteur!

1998-02-18 Thread Bob Bernstein
Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Linux really isn't right for gutless corporate weasles with little knowledge
> about what they are doing and impatient closed-minded bosses.

Auteur! Auteur! 

(This gets the Golden Rhetoric Award for this year! Wonderful! Yay!)

Cheers,


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Help netatalk

1998-02-18 Thread Chris

I know this is getting a fair way off the topic, but I am looking for help
with linux support for apples.

Basically I am trying to find a way for our apples computers to print via
our server.  At the moment we are using papd (part of the netatalk
package), but this does not pass the name of the user to lpd (instead it
uses the username "operator").  This is no good for us, as we are trying
to do accounting based on printer usage.

Does anyone know of another system by which we can obtain the appropriate
username?

Thanks,

Chris.
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Monitoring ppp0 Packets

1998-02-18 Thread Ian Perry
I would like to know if there is a way where I can monitor the number of
ppp0 packets transmitted and received as a continuous update on the screen.
 Similar to the way the tail command will show the last entries in a file
as they happen.  I know I can use ifconfig to show the number at an
instant, but I do not know how to do this on a continuous basis.

Thanks

Ian


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Re: Linux on top of win95

1998-02-18 Thread Sen Nagata
at some point around Tue, 17 Feb 98 20:07:11 -0600
Asher Haig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mentioned:

> If you set up LILO when you install it, and then tell LILO how to find 
> the Windows partition, you can easily do a dual boot. Superior to doing 
^
> UMS partitions.
  ^^
could you be more specific about what you mean here?

my experience has been that it really depends on your situation.  i'd like
to know if i'm missing out on something fundamental.

my personal experience has been that being able to use a umsdos partition 
under both dos/w95 and linux is quite handy given the limited size of some 
hard disks -- i can easily store stuff to use w/ either operating system
w/ this setup.

i am using loadlin and a custom config.sys/autoexec.bat setup to do
dual-boots, and find this to be quite usable.

-sen

p.s. for those interested, details of the set up i'm using at:

http://www.htp.org/~sen/debian/hu2/install.html


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RE: Linux on top of win95

1998-02-18 Thread Mike Barker
If you have NT, you can use a utility such as "bootpart" to add a line
to the boot.ini which lets you boot to linux from the NT boot loader.  I
would suggest using a sperate partion or drive for Linux, you'll need
one for swap anyway.  I have win95, 2 versions of NT (workstaion 4 and
server 5), and Linux all booting from the NT loader.

Michael Barker
Technician
ATL Systems

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 2:48 PM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Linux on top of win95
> 
> I know Linux can be installed ontop of a dos partition.  Can it be
> installed on top  of Win 95 or NT. I need to know this because
> although I
> run linux at home my office is NT and 95.  I would like to be able to
> boot
> to linux in the office in order to work on some of my personal
> projects
> when I have free time at lunch or after work.  How safe is this way of
> running Debian?  Is there any chance of it damaging either my office
> computer or the network.  (The network is currently 2 base t, but will
> be
> upgraded to 10 base t)  My boss absolutely refuses to  allow me run
> linux
> as a normal part of the network.  Lets be frank, I want to run linux
> during lunch and after work. But I do not want to lose my job. Can I
> do
> it? How?  Thank You
> 
> 
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NVidia Riva 128

1998-02-18 Thread Thomas Lakofski
Hi,

Was wondering if anyone has had experience with this card on Debian
systems.  I've (kinda-sorta) got the SuSE X server running, but things
seem to be a bit weird and I was wondering if anyone on the list had
already got it working perfectly, before I try and do all the legwork
myself.

TIA,

Thomas Lakofski.



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Re: NEC 4 cd changer

1998-02-18 Thread Marco Anglesio
On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, Shaleh wrote:

> Can someone point me towards docs on how cd changers function under
> 2.0.x kernels.  I would appreciate it.

/usr/src/linux/Documentation/cdrom/ide-cd

[begin quote]
 - There is now rudimentary support for cdrom changers which comply
   with the ATAPI 2.6 draft standard (such as the NEC CDR-251).  This
   merely adds a function to switch between the slots of the changer
   under control of an external program.  A sample such program is
   appended to the end of this file. 
[end quote]

Regards

marco

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Re: freedos

1998-02-18 Thread Michael Beattie
On 17 Feb 1998, Pedro Quaresma de Almeida wrote:

> pai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I am a Linux fanatic living in India.
> > 
> > I currently use Slackware 3.3.
> > 
> > I wish to keep my system Microsoft-free. I have the follwing problem.
> > 
> > (1) It is almost impossible to get non pnp ethernet cards, modems etc in
> > India.
> > (2) Further these cards are usually no-name Asian types with their own DOS
> > drivers
> > (3) I am no great device-driver writer.
> > 
> > Since I have to use Linux with these peripherals, I have to first boot
> > into DOS and then warm-boot into Linux.
> > 
> > Can I get rid of MSDOS if I use freeDOS ? All I want is my machine to boot
> > into DOS, poke in the pnp drivers and warm-boot Linux.
> > 
> 
> You must have a look at isapnptools.
> 
> The debian package says:
> 
> Description: ISA Plug-And-Play configuration utilities.
>  This program is suitable for all systems, whether or not they
>  include a PnP BIOS. In fact, a PnP BIOS adds some complications
>  because it may already activate some cards so that the drivers
>  can find them, and these tools can unconfigure them, or change
>  their settings causing all sorts of nasty effects.
> 
> I think that you will be able to find a "package" for slackware.
> 
> 
If that doesn't do what you need it to do, you could set up loadlin to
load linux from the dos partition, put it in autoexec.bat etc... 


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Re: smbfs

1998-02-18 Thread Michael Beattie
On 17 Feb 1998, Eloy A. Paris wrote:

> Michael Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> : I'm having trouble with smbfs etc when I try to use smbmount to mount
> : a win95 drive, I get the following errors:
> :
> : $ smbmount //[service]/c /mnt -n
> : smb_get_length: Invalid NBT packet
> : smb_dont_catch_keepalive: server->data_ready == NULL
> : smb_dont_catch_keepalive: server->data_ready == NULL
> : mount error: Invalid argument
> : Please look at smbmount's manual page for possible reasons
> :
> : I have no idea what's not working, because samba's smbclient works
> : fine
> 
> So you can do "smbclient [service]//c" with no problems? Is
> [service] the name of the Windows 95 machine?
> 
hmm I meant [server] :)

Yes, smbclient [server]\\[service] :) works fine and [server] is the
win95 machine, in this case it is "neb's pc" (dont ask me why.. its a
friends PC)
so:

$ smbclient "neb's pc\\c"

works fine...
I understand that with smbmount you have to use //[server]/[service] , and
that [server] is the server's hostname (in this case "neb"), not it's
netbios name ("neb's pc").
Oh, if I dont use -n with smbmount, I get a "Password:" prompt. I guess
that means it has connected fine?


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Re: Linux on top of win95

1998-02-18 Thread Asher Haig
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 2/17/98 7:47 PM

>I know Linux can be installed ontop of a dos partition.  Can it be
>installed on top  of Win 95 or NT. I need to know this because although I
>run linux at home my office is NT and 95.  I would like to be able to boot
>to linux in the office in order to work on some of my personal projects
>when I have free time at lunch or after work.  How safe is this way of
>running Debian?  Is there any chance of it damaging either my office
>computer or the network.  (The network is currently 2 base t, but will be
>upgraded to 10 base t)  My boss absolutely refuses to  allow me run linux
>as a normal part of the network.  Lets be frank, I want to run linux
>during lunch and after work. But I do not want to lose my job. Can I do
>it? How?  Thank You

If you set up LILO when you install it, and then tell LILO how to find 
the Windows partition, you can easily do a dual boot. Superior to doing 
UMS partitions.
An example lilo.conf file is at 
http://www.linuxsa.org.au/meetings/1997-07/kernel/page10.html


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Re: Installing packages larger than 1.44MB via floppy disks

1998-02-18 Thread Miguel Angel Padilla C.
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si quieres ha alguien dicelo hoy,
y sobre todo nunca te olvides de quererte a ti mismo,.
!Que viva el Rock and Roll!
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Re: Installing packages larger than 1.44MB via floppy disks

1998-02-18 Thread C.J.LAWSON
Try pkzip/pkunzip (probably get it off the web) if that fails, there is a
dos version of tar .. I think you can get them from one of the simtel
archives (or find one using one of the archie sites )
 
For the nearest simtel site to you go to 

http://www.coast.net/SimTel/msdos/filedocs/download.inf 

Jonathan

On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, Tom King wrote:

> I have installed Debian Linux on a PC that does not have a modem and is
> not on a LAN,  using floppy disks I created on my PC with a modem.  How
> do I install packages via floppy disks that are larger than 1.44MB?  Is
> there a DOS utility that I can use to split these files across several
> disks?  Thanks.
> 
> 
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Linux on top of win95

1998-02-18 Thread tmalloy
I know Linux can be installed ontop of a dos partition.  Can it be
installed on top  of Win 95 or NT. I need to know this because although I
run linux at home my office is NT and 95.  I would like to be able to boot
to linux in the office in order to work on some of my personal projects
when I have free time at lunch or after work.  How safe is this way of
running Debian?  Is there any chance of it damaging either my office
computer or the network.  (The network is currently 2 base t, but will be
upgraded to 10 base t)  My boss absolutely refuses to  allow me run linux
as a normal part of the network.  Lets be frank, I want to run linux
during lunch and after work. But I do not want to lose my job. Can I do
it? How?  Thank You



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Re: help me understand timezones

1998-02-18 Thread Adam Klein
On Tue, Feb 17, 1998 at 02:22:38PM -0800, Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I had several problems with timezones, and for many weeks my clock was
> wrong because of daylight savings (even though it said it changed the
> clock at that time, looks like it lost this information at the first
> boot), and I had no time to dig into this, untill finally I just
> changed the BIOS clock by hand...
> 
> But I wanted to understand how does the timezones work, and I went to
> /usr/doc/timezones, and found the glibc docs, instead of timezone's!

That's because timezones is part of glibc.

> Well, in my system:
> 
> $ date   
> Tue Feb 17 14:09:22 PST 1998
> $ date -R
> Tue, 17 Feb 1998 14:14:47 -0800
> 
> nr# dpkg -l timezone
> ic  timezone7.55-2 Data files needed to set your local time
> 
> My questions are:
> 
> 1) Is this correct for CA (-0800, at daylight savings period)?

Yes.

> 1) At the daylight savings dates, is timezone supposed to change the
> BIOS clock, or should it leave the BIOS clock unchanged, and
> "transform" BIOS time in PST time? Will it change automatically now,
> when the daylight period ends?

You don't need to worry about it.  Linux should automatically correct
the clock.

> 2) Is it better/worse/possible to have the BIOS clock set to GMT, and
> let timezone transforms it? In this case, how one can see the BIOS
> clock time?
> 
> 3) should I upgrade timezone?

No, it was replaced by timezones.

Hope this helps,
Adam Klein


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djgpp

1998-02-18 Thread Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella

Is there any debian package for DJGPP (gcc port to dos)?

Of course, the cross compiler that runs under linux...

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Re: A remark about the installation of the man package.

1998-02-18 Thread Adam Klein
On Tue, Feb 17, 1998 at 04:18:06PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> It seems to me that the man package does not create the required data base 
> immediately after its installation. Rather, it let a cron job to this work 
> when it is schedualed to.
> I think this approch is wrong, since the installer of a new system might want 
> to browse the man pages immediately after the system is operatable.

Actually, it immediately builds the database in the background.

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Re: Can't install samba_1.9.18p2-1.deb (the one in hamm)

1998-02-18 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Mon, 16 Feb 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 16, 1998 at 11:14:34AM -0500, David Gaudine wrote:
> > Unpacking samba (from .../net/samba_1.9.18p2-1.deb) ...
> > dpkg: error processing debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/net/
> >samba_1.9.18p2-1.deb (--install):
> >  trying to overwrite `/usr/man/man8/smbmount.8.gz', which is also in
> >package ksmbfs
> > dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
> > Errors were encountered while processing:
> >  debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/net/samba_1.9.18p2-1.deb
> 
> "dpkg --purge ksmbfs" before you install samba. "ksmbfs" is an old name for
> samba IIRC.

No, ksmbfs is an old name for smbfs. samba contains the smbclient program
and the samba server. smbfs contains the smbmount and smbumount programs.

The existance of the smbmount.8.gz file is a bug in the samba package.

Remco


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RE: Questions...

1998-02-18 Thread Julian Morcinek
[Re-posting.  Line died on previous post.  Apologies for any duplicates.]
[Julian Morcinek]  I took a interest in this post as I will be belatedly 
upgrading my current Debian 1.1 installation (a dream - trouble free for over 2 
years!).  Just three questions:

1.  Are they any major reasons why the new libc version in release 2.0.x 
(hamm) should be preferred over the libc version on 1.3.x (bo)?

2.  What does changing mean (viz a viz hamm)?  Does it mean that not all the 
existing packages have been upgraded for the new libc, and that ugraded 
packages will 'trickle through' over a period of time?  And does this mean 
frequent visits to the FTP server to download those hard-to-do-without packages?

3. How long does it take, on average - if there is such a thing, for hamm to 
become bo?

My interest is that of a contented Linux, as opposed to other OS's I 
administer, administrator.  I really don't have to work too hard on my Linux 
box, and I ain't a Unix/Linux Guru.  What now attracts me to Debian Linux is 
its proven, in my case, low maintainability.  Now isn't that a unique selling 
point?

Joakim Burman wrote:
> 
> Hi Debian users,
> 
> Some "Newbie" questions...
> 
> Is... Debian 1.3=stable=bo?

1.3.x is stable (codename is bo)

> Is... Debian 1.3.x=unstable=hamm?

2.0.x is unstable (means changing not buggy).  It is codenamed hamm

> Can I run unstable packages on a bo-kernel?
> Can I run stable packages on a hamm-kernel? (e.g backward-compatible)

The kernel has little to do w/ packages.  I run 2.0.33 on a hamm
system.  The default hamm kernel is also a bo kernel.

What makes hamm different than bo is the new libc.  Most apps are
dynamically linked to this lib.  SO bo packages may not work on hamm,
and hamm packages WILL NOT work on bo.  For you windows people it is
like two different versions of a DLL.




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can't search forwards in netscape?

1998-02-18 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.

ok, htis one is wierd.  As of late last week, searching in netscape (3.01) 
yields nothing when going forwards, even if wrapped.  Searching backwards 
works fine.

has anyone seen this?  and is there a solution?
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Re: PPP still a pain

1998-02-18 Thread tony mollica
When the system boots, is there a ttyS2 entry with the associated 
interrupt listed?

cat /proc/interrupts won't display an interrupt that is not currently in
use.
The modem would have to be working before you can get it to show up in
the list.

Have you tried dialing out using any other programs, such as minicom?


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