date:19980602

Unavailability of xlib6g seems to be the basis of several
problems that I'm having in finishing this upgrade.  Where
can I get this package?

BTW, Is a list of the mirrors with the appropriate paths
available?  When running dselect, I'm usually unsuccessful
in using other than my tried and true site unless I explore
it with ftp first.  Also, the apt method has http*bnl*gov
as a built-in alternative, but if it's down or busy, I
have no clue to alternatives.
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Re: hamm upgrade

When Bob Nielsen wrote, I replied:

Thanks for the reply.  There were myriad things (fvwm* among them) that
wouldn't load as they depended on xlib6g which wasn't available.

I ran and re-ran install and config and remove phases until my remaining
errors were minimized.  I've since added a few more packages, but there
remain a large group of things which depend on xlib6g which isn't
available.  I remain very loathe to re-boot until I can get xlib6g.
 
 On Mon, 1 Jun 1998, Ralph Winslow wrote:
 
  I just finished my bo - hamm upgrade but havn't rebooted the system yet
  because
  during the upgrade, I couldn't install fvwm2 or fvwm95 and I'm afraid
  that if I
  re-boot, I may loose my X environment.  Any advice??
 
 What errors did you get when trying to install fvwm2 and fvwm95?
 Sometimes it is necessary to rerun Install with dselect a few times to
 pick everything up.  Try this at least.
 
 You should reboot, as that may clean some things up.  If X won't run
 yet and you have to reinstall anything, there's always the venerable
 virtual console.
 
  Auch, I see that my display mumble.jpg and xlock commands are no longer
  working.
  I've forgotten the package which supplies the display command.  The
  xlock
  problem is minor in my environment.  TIA for any help forthcoming.
 
 display is contained in the Imagemagick package.
 
 Bob
 
 
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Re: xlib6g

1998-06-02 Thread Bill Moran

I obtained my version of hamm from
 ftp.usyd.edu.au. It contained xlib6g_3.3.2.1-1. 
I couldn't install this using dselect, instead I had to do it manually using
dpkg --install.

Bill


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Creating booteable floppy

1998-06-02 Thread Keith Alen Vance

I need to create a bootable floppy disk. I am running Debian 1.3 and have 
kernel 2.0.33. I went through all the instructions in the Linux How-to, 
but it didn't work some of the steps in the how-to did not work like the 
how-to clained. Does Debian have any easy way to do this. I like Linux a 
lot but some of these things like making floppy disks bootable should be 
a snap, but they aren't.

Thanks,
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DNS problem

1998-06-02 Thread Dennis Dai

Hi all,

I have a debian box connecting to our intranet which has an DNS server.
I also have a modem that I can dial to my ISP to browse the Internet.
So, I have to have 2 entries in /etc/resolv.conf, one for intranet and
the other for my ISP.

The problem is that whenever I connect to my ISP, I have to put the DNS
entry of my ISP in /etc/resolv.conf on top of my intranet one, or I
can't browse the Internet, while at the mean time I can't have access to
the intranet 'cause it will always look onto my ISP's DNS server, which
is obviously not right. Well I can manually change the entry in
/etc/resolv.conf each time I need to access the different net, but...is
there a better way to do that?

So what I want is, when I try to access Internet, it will look into my
ISP's DNS server, and when I want to connect to intranet, it will look
into intranet DNS server. Is it possible? BTW, My Windows box doesn't
have this kind of problem, don't know how M$ deal with it.

Thanks,

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Re: My network script running before eth0 is created

1998-06-02 Thread Nathan E Norman

On Mon, 1 Jun 1998, Ian Lynagh wrote:

: 
: Hi all!
: 
: I am having a problem with setting my network up.
: I basically want to run the following commands at bootup:
: ifconfig eth0:0 1.1.1.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 broadcast 1.255.255.255
: route add -net 1.0.0.0 dev eth0:0

I'm not sure what you're trying to do here, but are you really running a
full Class A on one segment?  That seems, well, illogical to me :)  We
use 10.x.x.x private IP space all the time, but never with a mask
shorter than 255.255.252.0.

I usually just edit /etc/init.d/network if I want interface changes, or
have that file source or call the script that has the changes.  I don't
know if editing /etc/init.d/network is evil or not; I don't think it is
:)  That way, the script is called at the appropriate time; the rc.d
links are already there for you.

I assume you got a kernel with IP Aliasing linked in or compiled as a
module.

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Re: PCMCIA

1998-06-02 Thread Asher Haig

Bill Moran, [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 6/1/98 11:41 PM

I have just upgraded from bo to hamm on my Toshiba laptop
(successfully except for a few corrupted files). How do I
configure to make my ethernet card (HyperEnet) work

Install the pcmcia package. If you have a custom kernel, you'll need to 
install the source package. I use the source. Once it's installed, 
/etc/init.d/pcmcia starts the services. It will recognize pretty much 
everything as far as cards go. Then you need to set up 
/etc/init.d/network for your network settings. 


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Creating a bootable floppy part 2

1998-06-02 Thread Keith Alen Vance

I recently posted a message about problems I was having with making a 
bootable floppy. I followed the how-to step by step and I have fallen 
down twice. I am not sure if I figured my RAM disk word correctly, I am 
using one disk so I said my ram disk word value would be 16384. I then 
stumbled on the last step it says to copy the root filesystem type the 
following:

dd if=rootfs.gz of=dev/fd0 bs=1k seek=KERNEL_BLOCKS 

I substituted KERNEL_BLOCKS for 720 which is the space I used for my 
kernel. When I run this it says that I do not have a file called 
rootfs.gz and that is correct. So I would love it if someone would tell 
me where I dropped the ball here.

Thanks again,
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Re: xlib6g

1998-06-02 Thread Mike Acklin

On Mon, Jun 01, 1998 at 03:27:51PM -0300, Ralph Winslow wrote:
 Unavailability of xlib6g seems to be the basis of several
 problems that I'm having in finishing this upgrade.  Where
 can I get this package?
 
 BTW, Is a list of the mirrors with the appropriate paths
 available?  When running dselect, I'm usually unsuccessful
 in using other than my tried and true site unless I explore
 it with ftp first.  Also, the apt method has http*bnl*gov
 as a built-in alternative, but if it's down or busy, I
 have no clue to alternatives.
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Ralph,

Believe or not I have found an excellent site to download Debian files
and it is usally pretty fast. Has been up to date just about everytime I have
logged on also. 

I have it set up as my default ftp site in dselect. It is at
ftp.caldera.com and the main directory is /pub/mirrors/debian. After that I
just enter the hamm/hamm, hamm/non-free, and hamm/contrib. You should update
the Packages list first and then you will be able to download then xlib6g
files. Get the xlib6g-dev files also. I have found that the '-dev' files
usally contain the missing lib files that I always have to go back and get...

Hope this helps

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RE: NT and Linux

1998-06-02 Thread King Lee


Thanks Bob McGowan  for your very informative reply.  I gather that
   1. Software raid is OK if problem is I-O bound, i.e.,
CPU would normally be idle waiting for I-O.
   2. If we have multiple subsystems, we increase the
the I-O bandwidth, and now the CPU may not
be keep up with the I-O.  In general, increasing
I-O turns I-O bound problem into CPU bound program.
   3. Software raid 5 may be OK for workload with lots of
reads, but run into trouble if workload does lots
of writes.
   4. Software raid 5 is more efficient for large files.

Is the above more or less correct.
King


On Mon, 1 Jun 1998, Bob McGowan wrote:

  
  
  On Thu, 28 May 1998, Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra wrote:
  
 snipped
 
  The article from www.osnews.com did say that software raid takes
  up CPU cycles, but it did not say how much. It would seem that if
  the CPU must check for errors on each byte from disk and performance
  would take a big hit.  Perhaps the kernel  checks for errors only
  if it knows that a disk died, and normally there would not
  be a hit.  Does anyone know about CPU hit of software raid.
  Why would anyone buy expensive raid hardware if software
  does the same without too much penalty?
  
  King Lee
 
 First, the CPU not only checks for errors on reading, it must also
 calculate the parity on writes.  In RAID5, spanning 4 disks, for
 example,
 1/4 of the storage is used to hold parity info.  Data is written in
 stripes of some size, one stripe per disk, in a round robin
 sequence.
 One stripe will be parity.  In the above 4 disk example, if a stripe
 were
 16K in size, there would be 48K of data and 16K of parity.  In RAID5,
 the
 parity stipe will rotate between disks, so no single disk is loaded
 with
 all the parity (this improves performance over RAID4(I believe) where
 all
 parity is on one disk).  If a disk write is less than 48K, the system
 must
 read 48K from the disks, make the needed changes, recalculate parity and
 write the resulting 64K back to the disks.  If the size is 48K, this
 read
 of data can be dispensed with.  The system must then only calcualte the
 parity and then write the 64K.
 
 This means CPU cycles are needed for SW RAID.  I do not know the impact
 in terms of actual numbers, but I can say the main issue is scalability.
 In SW RAID, the more RAID subsystems created, the greater the impact on
 CPU performance.  In HW RAID, there is no additional impact.  So even if
 SW RAID for a single RAID5 subsystem matched HW RAID for the same
 config,
 there will certainly come a breakeven point, where additional capacity
 causes CPU performance degradation in the SW RAID setup.
 
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telnetd?

1998-06-02 Thread Mikhali Mifsud

Hey all,

I just created a new debian install.  I dpkg all the accessories Iw
anted by seem to have no telnet daemon.  If I remember coreectly I
have to manually modify one of the init files int /etc to allow telnet
to work (?) or is there a specific package I need?

Also, is there a dEBIAN howto for xwindows install setup?

thanks,

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LRP offline

1998-06-02 Thread Richard L Shepherd

Anyone here know why the LRP (Linux Router Project) is offline at
present?  The URl is:

http://www.psychosis.com/linux-router/

I desperately need to get to  their pages - are there any mirrors?

TIA

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Re: PCMCIA

1998-06-02 Thread Obi

On Thu, Apr 02, 1998 at 07:19:05PM -, Asher Haig wrote:
 Bill Moran, [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 6/1/98 11:41 PM
 
 I have just upgraded from bo to hamm on my Toshiba laptop
 (successfully except for a few corrupted files). How do I
 configure to make my ethernet card (HyperEnet) work
 
 Install the pcmcia package. If you have a custom kernel, you'll need to 
 install the source package. I use the source. Once it's installed, 
 /etc/init.d/pcmcia starts the services. It will recognize pretty much 
 everything as far as cards go. Then you need to set up 
 /etc/init.d/network for your network settings. 

I think you'd prefer to modify the /etc/pcmcia/network.opts. I don't know
abouth t the Toshiba, but on my laptops I had also to work a little around the
/etc/pcmcia/confiog.opts (excluding some IRQs) and the /etc/pcmcia.conf (only
for my older laptop).

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Re: Partition MAX?

1998-06-02 Thread Rick Macdonald

Nathan E Norman wrote:

 :  What is the maximum partition size for an ext2 filesystem that linux can
 :  handle?  Is it limited to 2.1 GB like dos?
 :
 : Nope, it'll scale beyond 18G at least

 We've got a 44G news spool that's ext2.  I believe the limit lies in the
 terabyte range.

Matt Welsh's Running Linux book says 4 terabytes (page 60). The limit
of an individual file would still be 2GB, however.

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Re: hamm upgrade

1998-06-02 Thread Bob Nielsen

On Mon, 1 Jun 1998, Ralph Winslow wrote:

 When Bob Nielsen wrote, I replied:
 
 Thanks for the reply.  There were myriad things (fvwm* among them) that
 wouldn't load as they depended on xlib6g which wasn't available.
 
 I ran and re-ran install and config and remove phases until my remaining
 errors were minimized.  I've since added a few more packages, but there
 remain a large group of things which depend on xlib6g which isn't
 available.  I remain very loathe to re-boot until I can get xlib6g.

I can understand that.  Try
/pub/debian/dists/frozen/main/x11/xlib6g_3.3.2.1-1.deb 

I just checked and it is there (ftp.debian.org, at least).

Bob


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Re: Drive proving stubbornly unmountable

1998-06-02 Thread Damon Muller

G'day,

 Possible error sources are :
   -the partition was never made a vfat partition by
 Windows95, but is still a fat partition

Sort of don't think this would be it, as it had files with long file
names in it. I don't think that is possible under FAT.

   -your kernel does not support the vfat fs
 Try mounting it as a fat partition or check whether your kernel supports vfat.
 If it does not, you can either recompile it with vfat support or load the
 appropriate module.

Okay, quick question here. I tried mounting it and it said (can't
remember exact error) something about FAT not being supported by the
kernel. I thought this was a bit wierd, as I thougth I compiled it in,
and went back thru my kernel setup in make menuconfig. Accounding to
that, fat support should have been compiled into the kernel, not as a
module (yeah, can't rememebr what I was thinking at the time...)

I seem to recall that vfat sort of needed fat to work (tho my memory
could be failing me...), would it matter if vfat was a module, and fat
was compiled into the kernel? More to the point, if it was compiled into
the kernel, why does it say it isn't supported by the kernel...

Confusing! Or maybe I'm just stupid today...

damon


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Available devices?

1998-06-02 Thread Mikhali Mifsud



Is their a command I can execute that will show me all available
devices?  I think on solaris its something like dmsg (?)

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XKEYBOARD error

1998-06-02 Thread Bob Nielsen

I get the following error when starting X (xbase 3.3.2.1-1 from hamm):

System: `/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/xkbcomp -w 1 -R/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb -xkm
-m us -em1 The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: -emp  
-eml Errors
from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server keymap/xfree86
/var/tmp/xfree86.xkm'The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
 Error:Cannot open /var/tmp/xfree86.xkm to write keyboard
description
   Exiting
Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap

Whatever keymap is used is lacking the backspace.  What is needed to fix
this?

Bob


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Re: telnetd?

1998-06-02 Thread Jack Kern

On Mon, Jun 01, 1998 at 05:39:21PM -0700, Mikhali Mifsud wrote:
 Hey all,
 
 I just created a new debian install.  I dpkg all the accessories Iw
 anted by seem to have no telnet daemon.  If I remember coreectly I
 have to manually modify one of the init files int /etc to allow telnet
 to work (?) or is there a specific package I need?

Check /etc/inetd.conf for the following line (all in one line).

telnet stream  tcp nowait  root/usr/sbin/tcpd
/usr/sbin/in.telnetd

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Re: low throughput on PPP link

1998-06-02 Thread Gregory Guthrie

At 05:59 PM 5/29/98 -0500, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:
Well, you need to pass the speed to pppd as 115200, not 57600. You see, the
set_serial spd_vhi flag sets what speed will be used if 38400 is selected.
However, pppd can set the speed to 115200 just fine if you specify it. You're
specifying 57600 and that's what you're getting.
-- Thanks.

I guess that the conventions for pppd and setserial are different then.
So, pppd accepts 115K, and manipulates the combination of baud rate and vhi
appropriately?

also, the reports of seterial -a and ifconfig differ, probably a similar
difference in reporting terminology?

 Currently we are building two Debian boxes(2.0.30) running as routers
with a
 PPP link in between. Things are mostly going fine except the link
throughput.
 56kbps is the best it gets while we are expecting over 100kbps since we are
 using the 16550A UART serial cards.

 Here's the details:
 == serial port settings =
 /dev/ttyS0, Line 0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4
 Baud_base: 115200, close_delay: 50, divisor: 0
 closing_wait: 3000, closing_wait2: infinte
 Flags: spd_vhi skip_test session_lockout


 We were acknowledged that a combination of
 setserial -b /dev/ttyS0 spd_vhiand
 pppd persist passive proxyarp /dev/ttyS0 38400  
 will achieve the full speed
 of 115200, yet the testing result we have is just slower that using 57600.

 as per Robert Hart's Linux PPP HOWTO, nor in The Linux Serial HOWTO
 by Greg Hankins. 
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I broke my X

1998-06-02 Thread Michael David Figley

I chose to upgrade my xserver, etc.
Downloaded the required packages,
ran dpkg.

Now, I get a message ( fatal server error - can't find font fixed ):
===
XFree86 Version 3.3 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)
Release Date: Jun  2 1997
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer
than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: Linux 2.0.21 i486 [ELF] 
Configured drivers:
  Mach64: accelerated server for ATI Mach64 graphics adaptors
(Patchlevel 0)
(using VT number 2)

XF86Config: /etc/X11/XF86Config
(**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
(**) XKB: keymap: xfree86(us) (overrides other XKB settings)
(**) Mouse: type: PS/2, device: /dev/mouse, baudrate: 1200,
   3 button emulation (timeout: 50ms)
(**) Mach64: Graphics device ID: Mach64
(**) Mach64: Monitor ID: Gateway 1776LE
(--) Mach64: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 78.86 kHz. Deleted.
(--) Mach64: Mode 1280x1024 needs hsync freq of 81.13 kHz. Deleted.
(--) Mach64: Invalid vertical timing for mode 400x300. Deleted.
(**) FontPath set to
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
(--) Mach64: PCI: Mach64 VT rev 8, Aperture @ 0x0400, Block I/O @
0x7000
(--) Mach64: PCI (8) and CONFIG_CHIP_ID (0) don't agree on ChipRev,
using PCI value
(--) Mach64: card type: PCI
(--) Mach64: Memory type: 2
(--) Mach64: Clock type: Internal
(--) Mach64: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 135.000 MHz
(**) Mach64: Mode 640x480: mode clock =  31.500
(**) Mach64: Mode 800x600: mode clock =  50.000
(**) Mach64: Mode 1024x768: mode clock =  85.000
(--) Mach64: Virtual resolution: 1024x768
(--) Mach64: videoram: 1024k
(--) Mach64: Using hardware cursor
(--) Mach64: Using 8 MB aperture @ 0x0400
(--) Mach64: Ramdac is Internal
(--) Mach64: Using 8 bits per RGB value
(--) Mach64: Pixmap cache: 0 256x256 slots, 0 128x128 slots, 0 64x64
slots
(--) Mach64: Font cache: 0 fonts

Fatal server error:
could not open default font 'fixed'

When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send
the full server output, not just the last messages

===


can somone post a clue?

running Debian 1.3.something
kernel ~ 2.0.27

thanks.
mdf


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about K6 bug

1998-06-02 Thread Eugene Sevinian

Hi all,

Recently, there were a lot of post in [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
concerning new K6 bug. Tests was done by 'crashme'. Here is excerption
from Andreas Haumer [EMAIL PROTECTED] report.

#   OSCPU   result

11  Linux-2.0 K6crash
 0  Linux-2.0 K6no crash
 0  Linux-2.1 K6crash
 3  Linux-2.1 K6no crash
 0  Linux-2.0 Pentium   crash
 6  Linux-2.0 Pentium   no crash
 1  Linux-2.0 K6unclear
=

Sincerly speaking I have now idea how cricual is this, but as far as
I consider K6 as a choice for upgrating my PC, I would like to know how
reliable is this assuming that I have no intention to run this testing
program very often.  

Have someone experienced any serious proplem with this cpu?

TIA,

Eugene Sevinian


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libc5 applications (Netscape, StarOffice, WordPerfect) segfault

1998-06-02 Thread Tor Slettnes


It seems that if I have /usr/X11R6/lib in my $LD_LIBRARY_PATH,
libc5 applications such as Netscape, StarOffice 4.0 and WordPerfect
causes segmentation fault right away.

I then tried the glibc2 (libc6) version of Netscape 4.05, and this
did not happen.

Also, if I 'unsetenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH' (or remove /usr/X11R6/lib from
it) before starting these applications, they work fine.

I put on an strace, and it seems that the segfault happens after a
call to getpid().   This call does not happen if I do not include
/usr/X11R6/lib in LD_LIBRARY_PATH.

-tor


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Re: about K6 bug

1998-06-02 Thread Nils Rennebarth

On Tue, Jun 02, 1998 at 12:22:15PM +0400, Eugene Sevinian wrote:
 Recently, there were a lot of post in [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 concerning new K6 bug. Tests was done by 'crashme'. Here is excerption
 from Andreas Haumer [EMAIL PROTECTED] report.
 
 #   OSCPU   result
 
 11  Linux-2.0 K6crash
  0  Linux-2.0 K6no crash
  0  Linux-2.1 K6crash
  3  Linux-2.1 K6no crash
  0  Linux-2.0 Pentium   crash
  6  Linux-2.0 Pentium   no crash
  1  Linux-2.0 K6unclear
 =
 
 Sincerly speaking I have now idea how cricual is this, but as far as
 I consider K6 as a choice for upgrating my PC, I would like to know how
 reliable is this assuming that I have no intention to run this testing
 program very often.  
I followed this thread from when it started and my conclusions up to now
are:

1) It appears to show up only under circumstances not easily found in real
   life. Someone now posted a short test program that will crash a K6. This
   is not worse than the Intel F0 0F bug.

2) 2.1 kernels are immune to this crash, and as these are in almost as deep
   freeze as debian 2.0 is now :-), 2.2 is not too far away and the problem
   goes away.

I do not yet see a reason to buy an Intel instead.

Nils

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Re: low throughput on PPP link

1998-06-02 Thread Hamish Moffatt

On Mon, Jun 01, 1998 at 11:28:02PM -0500, Gregory Guthrie wrote:
 At 05:59 PM 5/29/98 -0500, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:
 Well, you need to pass the speed to pppd as 115200, not 57600. You see, the
 set_serial spd_vhi flag sets what speed will be used if 38400 is selected.
 However, pppd can set the speed to 115200 just fine if you specify it. You're
 specifying 57600 and that's what you're getting.
 -- Thanks.
 
 I guess that the conventions for pppd and setserial are different then.
 So, pppd accepts 115K, and manipulates the combination of baud rate and vhi
 appropriately?

I doubt pppd uses spd_vhi at all. My understanding is that this is a hack
used to allow 57600 and 115200 with programs that supported only 38400
and below. The idea was that you told your software 38400, regardless
of the actual speed, then used spd_hi for 57600, or spd_vhi for 115200.

If your software actually supports  38400 (eg pppd) there is no need to do
this.

I might be wrong, of course -- but I'm using 57600 here and I haven't
touched spd_vhi in years.

Hamish
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RE: adding users via scripts

1998-06-02 Thread Chris



On Mon, 1 Jun 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote:

 On Mon, 1 Jun 1998, Scott Ellis wrote:
 
 *mumble man chpasswd* ... hey, cool!  'chpasswd -e' does exactly what I
 want!
 
 Thanks Scott :)
 


Just for your interest, I put together a few scripts to do user creation
(automatic generation of usernames, passwords, printing forms, setting up
accounts, etc, etc).  

Note that I haven't gotten into developing programs for public realease
yet, so these programs are absolute hacks, but hey - they do the job for
me.  Also, if someone wants to let me know how to go about creating
programs for general release, then I'd greatly appreciate the information
(I have a few other little projects underway). 

Oh, I didn't know about chpasswd so I've written the code to do that stuff
myself.  

The programs can be obtained from:

http://ocsc.ormond.unimelb.edu.au/~caleishm/stuff/usercreate-1.0.tar.gz

Please read the README.


Hope this interests someone,

Chris


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smail vs sendmail, fetchmail, K6 processor

1998-06-02 Thread Karsten Bolding

As the subject says - different topics.

I have tried to configure both smail and sendmail without to much luck.
What I want is that local mail stays local and remote mail is send when
I via
PPP connects to the Internet.
If I choose option 1 in smailconfig and answer the questions (the way I
think they
should be answered) then at some point I can see that mail for root will

be sent
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (my ISP) which is definitely not what I want.

When I invoke fetchmail I get a time out when the mail is actually
transfered,
if I use mail retriving from Netscape I don't get the time out. What to
do?

I think I heard at some point that you can't have two K6's on the same
board is that true?

Karsten Bolding





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Re: xlib6g

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On Mon, 01 Jun 1998, Ralph Winslow wrote:
Unavailability of xlib6g seems to be the basis of several
problems that I'm having in finishing this upgrade.  Where
can I get this package?

BTW, Is a list of the mirrors with the appropriate paths
available?  When running dselect, I'm usually unsuccessful
in using other than my tried and true site unless I explore
it with ftp first.  Also, the apt method has http*bnl*gov
as a built-in alternative, but if it's down or busy, I
have no clue to alternatives.
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ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/hamm/hamm/binary-i386/x11/xlib6g_3.3.2.1-1.deb

note however, that there are quite some faster mirrors.
Packages can be most easily found by searching via CGI @ www.debian.org.
Just go to the packages section and enter e.g. xlib6g, you will then be given
the appropriate URL, which contains links to required packages and to the
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Re: libc5 applications (Netscape, StarOffice, WordPerfect) segfault

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On Tue, 02 Jun 1998, Tor Slettnes wrote:
It seems that if I have /usr/X11R6/lib in my $LD_LIBRARY_PATH,
libc5 applications such as Netscape, StarOffice 4.0 and WordPerfect
causes segmentation fault right away.

I then tried the glibc2 (libc6) version of Netscape 4.05, and this
did not happen.

Also, if I 'unsetenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH' (or remove /usr/X11R6/lib from
it) before starting these applications, they work fine.

I put on an strace, and it seems that the segfault happens after a
call to getpid().   This call does not happen if I do not include
/usr/X11R6/lib in LD_LIBRARY_PATH.

-tor


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you upgraded your system to libc6, right? I used to have the same problem. You
can solve it by installing the libc5 packages from the oldlibs section.

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Re: about K6 bug

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On Tue, 02 Jun 1998, Nils Rennebarth wrote:
On Tue, Jun 02, 1998 at 12:22:15PM +0400, Eugene Sevinian wrote:
 Recently, there were a lot of post in [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 concerning new K6 bug. Tests was done by 'crashme'. Here is excerption
 from Andreas Haumer [EMAIL PROTECTED] report.
 
 #   OSCPU   result
 
 11  Linux-2.0 K6crash
  0  Linux-2.0 K6no crash
  0  Linux-2.1 K6crash
  3  Linux-2.1 K6no crash
  0  Linux-2.0 Pentium   crash
  6  Linux-2.0 Pentium   no crash
  1  Linux-2.0 K6unclear
 =
 
 Sincerly speaking I have now idea how cricual is this, but as far as
 I consider K6 as a choice for upgrating my PC, I would like to know how
 reliable is this assuming that I have no intention to run this testing
 program very often.  
I followed this thread from when it started and my conclusions up to now
are:

1) It appears to show up only under circumstances not easily found in real
   life. Someone now posted a short test program that will crash a K6. This
   is not worse than the Intel F0 0F bug.

2) 2.1 kernels are immune to this crash, and as these are in almost as deep
   freeze as debian 2.0 is now :-), 2.2 is not too far away and the problem
   goes away.

I do not yet see a reason to buy an Intel instead.

Nils
besides I have been running an overclocked K6 (233 - 266) for 4 Months now.
Whereas win95 crashes regularly (it does so anyway), Linux didn't crash once.
During this time I compiled several kernels, created highly compressed MP3s
played  Quake2 for hours, burned a gazillion of CDs. I don't know what this
testing program is about, but the highly customized 2.0.33 kernel I use never
complained about the K6.

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Re: libc5 applications (Netscape, StarOffice, WordPerfect) segfault

1998-06-02 Thread Tor Slettnes

 Christian == Christian Zander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 It seems that if I have /usr/X11R6/lib in my $LD_LIBRARY_PATH,
 libc5 applications such as Netscape, StarOffice 4.0 and
 WordPerfect causes segmentation fault right away.
 
 I then tried the glibc2 (libc6) version of Netscape 4.05, and
 this did not happen.
 
 Also, if I 'unsetenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH' (or remove /usr/X11R6/lib
 from it) before starting these applications, they work fine.
 
 I put on an strace, and it seems that the segfault happens
 after a call to getpid().  This call does not happen if I do
 not include /usr/X11R6/lib in LD_LIBRARY_PATH.

Christian you upgraded your system to libc6, right? I used to
Christian have the same problem. You can solve it by installing
Christian the libc5 packages from the oldlibs section.

Sure, my libc5 is from 'oldlibs', version 5.4.38-1 to be exact.
That is not the problem.

Again, the problem goes away without /usr/X11R6/lib in
LD_LIBRARY_PATH.

-tor


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Re: My network script running before eth0 is created

1998-06-02 Thread Nils Rennebarth

On Mon, Jun 01, 1998 at 11:18:24PM +0100, Ian Lynagh wrote:
 I am having a problem with setting my network up.
 I basically want to run the following commands at bootup:
 ifconfig eth0:0 1.1.1.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 broadcast 1.255.255.255
 route add -net 1.0.0.0 dev eth0:0
I'd put this in /etc/init.d/network

And you will need to add ip_alias to /etc/modules

 
 Here is /etc/rc.boot/IansStuff
 
 #!/bin/sh
 echo IAN'S STUFF STARTED...
 ifconfig eth0:0 1.1.1.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 broadcast 1.255.255.255
 route add -net 1.0.0.0 dev eth0:0
 echo IAN'S STUFF COMPLETE
 
 And here is what happens at startup:
 
 Configuring serial portsdone.
 /dev/ttyS0 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
 IAN'S STUFF STARTED...
 SIOCSIFADDR: Operation not supported by device
 eth0:0: unknown interface.
 SIOCSIFNETMASK: Operation not supported by device
 SIOCSIFBRDADDR: Operation not supported by device
 eth0:0: unknown interface.
 SIOCADDRT: Operation not supported by device
 IAN'S STUFF COMPLETE
 INIT: Entering runlevel: 2
 Starting system log daemon: syslogd klogd.
 Starting PCMCIA services: modules cardmgr.
 Starting kerneld, version 2.1.85 (pid 132)
 Setting up IP spoofing protection...done.
 Starting base networking daemons: portmap inetd.
 Starting domain name service: namedloading device 'eth0'...
 .
 
 As you can see eth0 is not created until after my script runs, so
 it fails  :-(
 Where should I put my script?
 
 Thanks
 Ian
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On Tue, 02 Jun 1998, Damon Muller wrote:
G'day,

Possible error sources are :
-the partition was never made a vfat partition by
Windows95, but is still a fat partition

Sort of don't think this would be it, as it had files with long file
names in it. I don't think that is possible under FAT.

-your kernel does not support the vfat fs
Try mounting it as a fat partition or check whether your kernel supports
vfat.
If it does not, you can either recompile it with vfat support or load the
appropriate module.

Okay, quick question here. I tried mounting it and it said (can't
remember exact error) something about FAT not being supported by the
kernel. I thought this was a bit wierd, as I thougth I compiled it in,
and went back thru my kernel setup in make menuconfig. Accounding to
that, fat support should have been compiled into the kernel, not as a
module (yeah, can't rememebr what I was thinking at the time...)

I seem to recall that vfat sort of needed fat to work (tho my memory
could be failing me...), would it matter if vfat was a module, and fat
was compiled into the kernel? More to the point, if it was compiled into
the kernel, why does it say it isn't supported by the kernel...

Confusing! Or maybe I'm just stupid today...

damon
if you can't mount it as fat16 nor as vfat, NT propably formated the drive as
fat32. I don't know very much about that, but you could have a look at

http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/fat32.html
and
http://infocom.cqu.edu.au/Study/Units/85321_Systems_Administration/Study_Material/Resource_Materials/FAT32/

Chris
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Re: libc5 applications (Netscape, StarOffice, WordPerfect) segfault

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On Tue, 02 Jun 1998, Tor Slettnes wrote:
 Christian == Christian Zander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 It seems that if I have /usr/X11R6/lib in my $LD_LIBRARY_PATH,
 libc5 applications such as Netscape, StarOffice 4.0 and
 WordPerfect causes segmentation fault right away.
 
 I then tried the glibc2 (libc6) version of Netscape 4.05, and
 this did not happen.
 
 Also, if I 'unsetenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH' (or remove /usr/X11R6/lib
 from it) before starting these applications, they work fine.
 
 I put on an strace, and it seems that the segfault happens
 after a call to getpid().  This call does not happen if I do
 not include /usr/X11R6/lib in LD_LIBRARY_PATH.

Christian you upgraded your system to libc6, right? I used to
Christian have the same problem. You can solve it by installing
Christian the libc5 packages from the oldlibs section.

Sure, my libc5 is from 'oldlibs', version 5.4.38-1 to be exact.
That is not the problem.

Again, the problem goes away without /usr/X11R6/lib in
LD_LIBRARY_PATH.

-tor
it's not only the libc5 package, I don't exactly recall which packages I
installed to make it work, but it was many of them.
e.g. libelf0
ligjpeg6a
ncurses3.0


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Fwd: Bug#23064: install problem

1998-06-02 Thread Martin Schulze

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 Hi,
I am trying out Linux for the 1st time. I teach IT at Jacksin
 Community College in
 Michigan. I bought a hard drive for my 486dx4 and got as far as the
 base-1.bin install.
 I get the error wrong disk, can't find files or such verbage to that

 effect. I tried the rawrite2
 program thinking maybe I had to convert the base-1.bin 1st. No better.
I
 re-downloaded toa new floppy
 but it still doesn't accept it.
 Any ideas? I have 24 megs RAM and everything has worked up to this

 point;  boot in Linux
 format swap drive, etc.
I'd really like to get out of the windows prison!
thanks,
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Re: Can't recognize com port

1998-06-02 Thread Kenneth . Scharf

I created /dev/cua1 using the command

mknod -m 660 /dev/cua1 c 5 65
chown root.dialout /dev/cua1

which I got out of a book on Linux networking.  Previously I was using
/dev/ttyS1 for outgoing connections.  Is there any reason to use the cua
devices?

---
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The cua devices (call out) were originally created as separate devices for
outgoing connections, the ttyS devices were used for incomming connections.
The idea was that by using lock files an outgoing process would check for
an incomming process before starting (and visa versa).  There are other
ways of doing this today and the use of the cua devices have fallen into
dis-favor. (which is why debian does not use them?)  I think slackware
still builds cua devices.  I am using /dev/ttyS0 to connect my modem.



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Re: Help! Major crash in Hamm upgrade!

1998-06-02 Thread Mark Phillips


Thanks guys for your help!  I can't thank you enough!!!

 Use the Debian Rescue disk to boot your system but mount your existing
 root partition as the root instead of allowing the rescue disk to mount a
 ram disk as root.  For example, when presented with the boot: prompt
 from the rescue disk type:
 
   linux root=/dev/hda1

This did the trick - with a small modification.  First I had to restore
the /etc/init.d/boot - it seems that hamm doesn't have this file anymore,
but because my system wasn't configured properly - it needed it.

I have now managed to install and configure most of the hamm packages,
though there were many difficulties.

I don't know why the boot sector was corrupted - but it wasn't anything to
do with linear settings - I checked the BIOS and the disks were set to
NORMAL - as they always have been.  And the lilo.conf was the same as I
had always been using.  I suspect the boot sector was corrupted.  I have
rerun lilo and it boots fine. 

 Instead of manually configuring the lilo.conf file, try using liloconfig
 instead.  Liloconfig is fairly interactive and it helps to make sure that
 your lilo.conf file is configured properly.

I did this just to see what it gave.  It gave the same as what I already
had except for two things:

1. it had boot=/dev/hda1 instead of boot=/dev/hda
2. it didn't allow me to boot from my dos partition

On the second point, I notice that I can no longer do
  loader = /boot/any_d.b
because the file is not there.  Anyone know anything about this?
I've solved the problem simply by commenting out this line, but I
would like to know what's happened.

Cheers, and once again, thanks,

Mark.


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Making identical copies of CDROMs

1998-06-02 Thread Martin Stromberg

How should I proceed to make an identical copy of a CDROM?
dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/image_of_cdrom bs=2048, then what? What
parameters should I give to cdwrite/cdrecord? Or is this way
impossible to take? 


Right,

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plog not working in hamm.

1998-06-02 Thread Mark Phillips


I have just upgraded to hamm.  

pon seems to work okay, but plog doesn't come up with anything.  I suspect
this is because 
/etc/syslog.conf
has changed, but I'm not sure.  I had a look, but I don't know how to
change it to fix the problem.  Does anyone know?

Thanks,

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Accessing html forms...

1998-06-02 Thread Chris


Hi all,

This is off the topic, but I figured I could ask anyhow.

I have to periodically access an post type form on a web page, and I would
like to do this automatically (ie. write a script/program to do it, rather
than having to load up netscape and do it by hand).  I've played with
programs like snarf for downloading pages, but I need to actually post
some data to a server.

Anyone have any information on ways to do this?  I must admit that I don't
know too much about http - expecially cgi stuff.

Thanks for any help,


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PATH problem

1998-06-02 Thread Tomas Petersson


Hello, I have installed JDK1.1 and written a small testprogram.
The compiler works fine, I can compile programs which run
fine on my NT but in Linux it says Class XXX not found..
I suspect the the problem is my PATH, but I can't find the 
error. The class I try to run is in the current directory.

CLASSPATH=/usr/local/java/classes
PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games:.

TIA, Tomas Petersson


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Re: libc5 applications (Netscape, StarOffice, WordPerfect) segfault

1998-06-02 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans

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 It seems that if I have /usr/X11R6/lib in my $LD_LIBRARY_PATH,
 libc5 applications such as Netscape, StarOffice 4.0 and WordPerfect
 causes segmentation fault right away.

Here's my best attempt at an explanation of all this.  The libs in
/usr/X11R6/lib (mostly) are built with dependencies on libc6.  Setting
LD_LIBRARY_PATH overrides the setting in /etc/ld.so.conf, forcing netscape
to link with the libc6 dependant libraries.  If, when you've got the
LD_LIBRARY_PATH set, you do an ldd on the netscape executable, you'll see
that it is linking with both libc5 and libc6.  This is BAD, and won't
work.  By not setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH, you're letting ld.so figure out
which are the correct libraries to link with netscape (based on
dependencies built in to the libraries), and the crash doesn't occur.  If
you do an ldd on the netscape executable *without* LD_LIBRARY_PATH set,
then you'll see that it only links with libc5, which is correct.

So, to sum it up, when netscape is dynamically linked with the libs in
/usr/X11R6/lib, it is also forced to link with libc6.  Since it wasn't
built against libc6, it crashes.

I hope this was clear and helpful (and more or less correct).

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Re: smail vs sendmail, fetchmail, K6 processor

1998-06-02 Thread Hamish Moffatt

On Tue, Jun 02, 1998 at 11:17:16AM +0200, Karsten Bolding wrote:
 I think I heard at some point that you can't have two K6's on the same
 board is that true?

This is my understanding [could be wrong]:

K6 IS supported in multiprocessor, but it is using an SMP scheme called
OpenPIC or similar. Cyrix use the same spec. Intel use a different spec
though and no motherboards available support the open one.

Unfortunately for now that means going with Intel's usual overpriced
efforts if you want SMP.

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Re: PATH problem

1998-06-02 Thread David Z. Maze


Tomas Petersson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
TP The class I try to run is in the current directory.
TP 
TP CLASSPATH=/usr/local/java/classes

Add '.' to your CLASSPATH.

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Re: libc5 applications (Netscape, StarOffice, WordPerfect) segfault

1998-06-02 Thread Hamish Moffatt

On Tue, Jun 02, 1998 at 03:34:20AM -0700, Tor Slettnes wrote:
 Again, the problem goes away without /usr/X11R6/lib in
 LD_LIBRARY_PATH.

Why do you need to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH anyway?


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LINUX Newbie

1998-06-02 Thread imailstuff

I have never used LINUX.  What do I need to download/purchase to get started on 
my learning journey?



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Re: plog not working in hamm.

1998-06-02 Thread joost



On Tue, 2 Jun 1998, Mark Phillips wrote:

 I have just upgraded to hamm.  
 
 pon seems to work okay, but plog doesn't come up with anything.  I suspect
 this is because 
   /etc/syslog.conf
 has changed, but I'm not sure.  I had a look, but I don't know how to
 change it to fix the problem.  Does anyone know?

Strange. Does /etc/syslog.conf contain a line:

local2.*-/var/log/ppp.log

on your machine?

Cheers,


Joost


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Re: about K6 bug

1998-06-02 Thread Lee Bradshaw

On Tue, Jun 02, 1998 at 12:22:15PM +0400, Eugene Sevinian wrote:
 Sincerly speaking I have now idea how cricual is this, but as far as
 I consider K6 as a choice for upgrating my PC, I would like to know how
 reliable is this assuming that I have no intention to run this testing
 program very often.  
 
 Have someone experienced any serious proplem with this cpu?

I have used a K6-233 for about 8 months now (until yesterday). It hasn't
crashed in linux, and I've had uptimes  2 months before rebooting to
windows. I used an AMD 5x86-133 before the K6. I just upgraded to a
PII-400 because I need the speed for some applications for work. The
new motherboard/cpu is slightly more than 2x faster than the K6 on my
applications so far.

I would recommend AMD processors and I've got friends who really like
their cyrix chips on linux.

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Re: low throughput on PPP link

Hamish Moffatt wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 01, 1998 at 11:28:02PM -0500, Gregory Guthrie wrote:
  At 05:59 PM 5/29/98 -0500, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:
  Well, you need to pass the speed to pppd as 115200, not 57600. You see, the
  set_serial spd_vhi flag sets what speed will be used if 38400 is selected.
  However, pppd can set the speed to 115200 just fine if you specify it. 
  You're
  specifying 57600 and that's what you're getting.
  -- Thanks.
 
  I guess that the conventions for pppd and setserial are different then.
  So, pppd accepts 115K, and manipulates the combination of baud rate and vhi
  appropriately?

 I doubt pppd uses spd_vhi at all. My understanding is that this is a hack
 used to allow 57600 and 115200 with programs that supported only 38400
 and below. The idea was that you told your software 38400, regardless
 of the actual speed, then used spd_hi for 57600, or spd_vhi for 115200.

From TFM (setserial):

   spd_vhi
  Use 115kb when  the  application  requests  38.4kb.
  This parameter may be specified by a non-privileged
  user.

 If your software actually supports  38400 (eg pppd) there is no need to do
 this.

 I might be wrong, of course -- but I'm using 57600 here and I haven't
 touched spd_vhi in years.

You're on the right track. The old unix ioctl for changing characteristics of 
serial
ports was the struct termio. This struct had a member (well, members 
actually--you
could set input and output speed independently) which could be set to control 
speed
using defined constants which ranged all the way up to 38400. Nowadays we use 
the
more modern termios struct (and a special set of functions rather than ioctl
directly) and have constants to set the speed all the way up to 230400. The 
spd_vhi
flag was basically supported in the kernel driver so that old software which 
used
the old ioctl and didn't know a serial line could go higher than 38400 could 
still
use the hardware's capability. I'm sure you can find old code on the net which 
uses
this old ioctl but I imagine most software which is developed exclusively or
primarily for Linux is written to take advantage of termios and higher speeds.

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Re: plog not working in hamm.

1998-06-02 Thread Mark Phillips

On Tue, 2 Jun 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, 2 Jun 1998, Mark Phillips wrote:
 
  I have just upgraded to hamm.  
  
  pon seems to work okay, but plog doesn't come up with anything.  I suspect
  this is because 
  /etc/syslog.conf
  has changed, but I'm not sure.  I had a look, but I don't know how to
  change it to fix the problem.  Does anyone know?
 
 Strange. Does /etc/syslog.conf contain a line:
 
 local2.*-/var/log/ppp.log
 
 on your machine?

No it doesn't.  I've added it in now though.  Can I activate this without
rebooting?

Cheers,

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Re: DNS problem

Dennis Dai wrote:

 Hi all,

 I have a debian box connecting to our intranet which has an DNS server.
 I also have a modem that I can dial to my ISP to browse the Internet.
 So, I have to have 2 entries in /etc/resolv.conf, one for intranet and
 the other for my ISP.

 The problem is that whenever I connect to my ISP, I have to put the DNS
 entry of my ISP in /etc/resolv.conf on top of my intranet one, or I
 can't browse the Internet, while at the mean time I can't have access to
 the intranet 'cause it will always look onto my ISP's DNS server, which
 is obviously not right. Well I can manually change the entry in
 /etc/resolv.conf each time I need to access the different net, but...is
 there a better way to do that?

 So what I want is, when I try to access Internet, it will look into my
 ISP's DNS server, and when I want to connect to intranet, it will look
 into intranet DNS server. Is it possible? BTW, My Windows box doesn't
 have this kind of problem, don't know how M$ deal with it.

Sure it's possible. You should be able to include both servers in
/etc/resolv.conf and be able to use both at the same time. You should list your
intranet DNS server first in the file. Have you tried this?

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Probs installing 1.3

1998-06-02 Thread Stephen A. Witt

I'm trying to install Debian 1.3 on an older 486 at work for a guy who's
taking some graduate classes and needs a basic C development environment. 
I'm not able to get the Rescue Disk to boot completely. 

I've checked the BIOS settings and changed them to correspond with the
recommended settings in the Hardware HOWTO.  Then booting with the 1.3
Rescue disk (which I can boot on two other machines, so I think the disk
is good) it starts booting and gets to the line where it prints out the 
'md driver ...' status and then hangs.  Booting the Rescue disk on another
machine indicates that the next thing it is doing is checking for SCSI
devices.  This machine has no SCSI stuff and so it seems that there should
be a short delay and then the boot process continues.  At least this is
what happens when I boot other machines (both with and without SCSI).

Any ideas?





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Basic cvs question

1998-06-02 Thread David Morris

I decided to give cvs a try on a programming project I am about ready to
get started on and thought it easier to start from the beginning with the
cvs setup. So I installed the cvs package this morning. However, I have
what must be a very basic FAQ, but I can't find the answer to it in the
FAQ.

I think I understand the concept of CVSROOT, but am not sure and don't
know what to use for it. Especially to start with a completely clean
canvas. Is it as simple as setting my CVSROOT environment variable and
starting to use it?

Is the CVSROOT path what the debian cvsconfig script wants when it
asks for the list of repositories? If so, what is a standard value to use
on a Debian system for the CVSROOT path? And shouldn't that be set as a
default when someone clueless like me tries to set up the program
initially?

Thanks for any help I can find. (even if it is a pointer to the right
place in the FAQ)

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Re: LPRng broked??

1998-06-02 Thread Jeffrey Ebert

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 Hi, I'm trying to print trough LPRng to a JetDirect Printer and i got no
 succes even if i use the same printcap that work with the standar BSD lpr.
 
 I've tried lpd to lpd connection (The usual way) and direct connection to
 port 9100.
 
 Please Help.

Try adding :send_data_first to the end of your printcap entry. This
worked for me to fix a similar problem. I found a reference to it in the
postscript documentation. I hope this helps.

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Re: plog not working in hamm.

1998-06-02 Thread Michael Acklin

At 12:06 AM 6/3/98 +0930, you wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jun 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


No it doesn't.  I've added it in now though.  Can I activate this without
rebooting?

Cheers,

Mark.


Mark,

You don't need to reboot to get the deamon to restart. Luckily on this
list, I found out that you can do a ps ax and find out which process
inetd is. Then do a kill -1 (PS#). That's the numeral one.

Then for example, if inetd was process 183, you could do a kill -1 183
and it will stop/restart inetd program. Makes it a lot easier that having
to reboot everytime I changed something, which I was doing.

I have learn a lot over the past few months just listening to this list.
Hope this helps...

Mike


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Re: plog not working in hamm.

1998-06-02 Thread Michael Acklin

At 12:06 AM 6/3/98 +0930, you wrote: 



 No it doesn't.  I've added it in now though.  Can I activate this without
 rebooting?

 Cheers,

 Mark.


Oops, 

 That last message should have been the syslogd instead of the inetd. Sorry
but
the same Idea.


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Re: plog not working in hamm.

1998-06-02 Thread Jack Kern

On Wed, Jun 03, 1998 at 12:06:22AM +0930, Mark Phillips wrote:
 On Tue, 2 Jun 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Tue, 2 Jun 1998, Mark Phillips wrote:
  
[...]
   pon seems to work okay, but plog doesn't come up with anything.  I suspect
   this is because 
 /etc/syslog.conf
[...]
  Strange. Does /etc/syslog.conf contain a line:
  
  local2.*-/var/log/ppp.log
  
  on your machine?
 
 No it doesn't.  I've added it in now though.  Can I activate this without
 rebooting?

killall -HUP syslogd 

No need to reboot.

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Re: plog not working in hamm.

1998-06-02 Thread joost



On Wed, 3 Jun 1998, Mark Phillips wrote:

 On Tue, 2 Jun 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Strange. Does /etc/syslog.conf contain a line:
  
  local2.*-/var/log/ppp.log
  
  on your machine?
 
 No it doesn't.  I've added it in now though.  Can I activate this without
 rebooting?

You shouldn't even have to restart syslogd.  Try:

  /etc/init.d/sysklogd reload

and if that doesn't work, try

  /etc/init.d/sysklogd restart

You have to be root to do this of course.

Cheers,


Joost


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Re: jdk1.1-runtime

1998-06-02 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite

I downloaded the files listed below into my system and unpacked them using
dpkg -i XX.deb

Everything seems to install fine.  I moved a simple class I have been working on
over to the system and got the following error:

$ jre -cp /home/doug/java dens
SIGSEGV   11*  segmentation violation

Full thread dump:
Killed

I received the same error trying to run one of the demos also.

Any ideas?

Thanks again for your help!

Doug

Daniel Martin at cush wrote:

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 I managed to find the old jdk 1.1.3v2 .debs which can be installed on
 bo (libc5 systems).

 I've put them into my public_html directory on master.debian.org -
 note that although I am a debian maintainer, I do not maintain nor
 never have maintened the jdk packages.

 md5sums:
 c875ec46c914747fd24d0e4e034c8101  jdk1.1-dev_1.1.3.v2-1.deb
 e0cb8617175008fc6a09ccfbc0c52840  jdk1.1-docdemo_1.1.3.v2-1.deb
 630b752a48d7842b53dce47cb7a9920a  jdk1.1-runtime_1.1.3.v2-1.deb

 Each of these are available via http:
 http://master.debian.org/~fizbin/jdk1.1-dev_1.1.3.v2-1.deb
 http://master.debian.org/~fizbin/jdk1.1-docdemo_1.1.3.v2-1.deb
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init scripts using ipchains..?

1998-06-02 Thread Michael \[badpixel / bad sector\]

hi!

does anyone have network init scripts, that uses ipchains for ip spoofing
protection etc.?

i would also like to see how ip_masq i done using ipchains! :)

thanks!

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RE: NT and Linux

1998-06-02 Thread Bob McGowan

Hi, King, my comments follow your questions, below.

I hope this helps.

Bob

 King Lee asks:
 
 Thanks Bob McGowan  for your very informative reply.  I gather that
1. Software raid is OK if problem is I-O bound, i.e.,
   CPU would normally be idle waiting for I-O.

I would agree with this analysis.  If the CPU is doing nothing, it
might as well be calculating parity for RAID.  :-)

2. If we have multiple subsystems, we increase the
   the I-O bandwidth, and now the CPU may not
   be keep up with the I-O.  In general, increasing
   I-O turns I-O bound problem into CPU bound program.

I would also expect this to be true, though I have no evidence to
support the idea.

3. Software raid 5 may be OK for workload with lots of
   reads, but run into trouble if workload does lots
   of writes.

Not necessarily.  Remember, when reading the data, you still have to
read a stripe from all the disks and verify the parity, so there is
still some overhead.  Also, if there are lots of writes, there may
be a higher chance of ordering the I/O requests to take advantage of
writing a full set of stripes, reducing the frequency of the
read/modify/write cycle, which will reduce I/O load.

4. Software raid 5 is more efficient for large files.

Generally, the answer to this is:  it depends ;-)  Are you talking
reads and/or writes.  What combination?  How random?  Etc.

Also, this question (and the third, to some extent) are getting away
from the original question comparing SW and HW based RAID technnology
and are getting into the more specific issues of RAID efficiencies,
which DO NOT depend on whether the RAID is SW or HW.  Generally, in
RAID5, writes will always be more expensive than a regular disk.  If
you have a read/modify/parity calcualtion/write scenario, it is worse,
but even the data collection/parity calculation/write sequence takes
more time than a pure write.  The efficiency of RAID5 is in its read
characteristics, for random access.  Large numbers of random read
requests will distribute across multiple spindles, improving I/O due
to redcution of seek delays and an overall reduction of read requests
PER SPINDLE.  There will also be less wait time for unrelated requests.
This implies that the more disks you can put in the array,
the better the performance.  And this may be where SW RAID could be
better than HW RAID, since SW based arrays can span multiple
controllers.
The controllers also do not need to be the same interface type either.
You can mix IDE, SCSI, etc.  HW RAID systems generally have some limits
on the number of disks you can have, based on the number of internal
buses and bus width (ie a two internal narrow SCSI channel system would
be limited to a maximum of 14 hard disks).

If you are concerned about write performance more than read performance,
you might want to consider using a mirror set of some sort (RAID1 and
RAID6 [AKA RAID10]).  Since there is no parity calculation, write
performance is very close to a standard disk's.  The disadvanage is
that 50% of the capacity is lost.

 
 Is the above more or less correct.
 King
 
 
 On Mon, 1 Jun 1998, Bob McGowan wrote:
 
   
   
   On Thu, 28 May 1998, Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra wrote:
   
  snipped
  
   The article from www.osnews.com did say that software raid takes
   up CPU cycles, but it did not say how much. It would seem that if
   the CPU must check for errors on each byte from disk and 
 performance
   would take a big hit.  Perhaps the kernel  checks for errors only
   if it knows that a disk died, and normally there would not
   be a hit.  Does anyone know about CPU hit of software raid.
   Why would anyone buy expensive raid hardware if software
   does the same without too much penalty?
   
   King Lee
  
  First, the CPU not only checks for errors on reading, it must also
  calculate the parity on writes.  In RAID5, spanning 4 disks, for
  example,
  1/4 of the storage is used to hold parity info.  Data is written in
  stripes of some size, one stripe per disk, in a round robin
  sequence.
  One stripe will be parity.  In the above 4 disk example, if a stripe
  were
  16K in size, there would be 48K of data and 16K of parity.  
 In RAID5,
  the
  parity stipe will rotate between disks, so no single disk 
 is loaded
  with
  all the parity (this improves performance over RAID4(I 
 believe) where
  all
  parity is on one disk).  If a disk write is less than 48K, 
 the system
  must
  read 48K from the disks, make the needed changes, 
 recalculate parity and
  write the resulting 64K back to the disks.  If the size is 48K, this
  read
  of data can be dispensed with.  The system must then only 
 calcualte the
  parity and then write the 64K.
  
  This means CPU cycles are needed for SW RAID.  I do not 
 know the impact
  in terms of actual numbers, but I can say the main issue is 
 scalability.
  In SW RAID, the more RAID subsystems created, the greater 
 the impact on
  CPU performance.

Re: init scripts using ipchains..?

1998-06-02 Thread Scott Ellis

On Tue, 2 Jun 1998, Michael [badpixel / bad sector] wrote:

 hi!
 
 does anyone have network init scripts, that uses ipchains for ip spoofing
 protection etc.?
 
 i would also like to see how ip_masq i done using ipchains! :)

netbase 3.09-1 (in hamm) includes ipchains, including all documentation
(and /etc/init.d/netbase has a spoof protection setup)

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something like easy cd creator

1998-06-02 Thread Benoit Joly

hi, is there any apps like easycd creator, who dont need to make an image?,
just dragging files or wav songs to the destination before burning?


tnx

Benoit Joly
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Re: smail vs sendmail, fetchmail, K6 processor

1998-06-02 Thread Obi

Ciao,

 be sent
 to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (my ISP) which is definitely not what I want.

I'm using smail on a hamm system. I configured smail with 1, giving the mail
host of my ISP as smart host. I also have a visible name different from the
name of my machine (that is the domain name of outgoing mail will match my
real email address).

The only thing I had to change is to take out the visible_name (it works as
a masquerade name) from the hostnames since I want to send mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] that are not on my system.

A part from that smail is doing is job beautyfully ... 

 When I invoke fetchmail I get a time out when the mail is actually
 transfered,
 if I use mail retriving from Netscape I don't get the time out. What to
 do?

What do fetchmail -v say? Which is the host that fetchmail trying to contact?

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Re: something like easy cd creator

1998-06-02 Thread Ulisses Alonso Camaro

Hi all!

On Tue, 2 Jun 1998, Benoit Joly wrote:

 hi, is there any apps like easycd creator, who dont need to make an image?,
 just dragging files or wav songs to the destination before burning?

I think xcdroast is what you are looking for. If you have an IDE CDR then
you will have also to use SCSI emulation option in the kernel

I hope this helps,

Ulisses
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Re: backup s/w suggestions

1998-06-02 Thread Jens Ritter

Randy Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I just got ahold of a Seagate TapeStor 8 GB IDE tape backup that
 I'm eager to use with my hamm system.
 
I noticed that dselect lists out several different tape backup
 programs.  I was wondering if someone could give me a recommendation.
 I'm not looking to do anything radical or special, just keep my Debian
 system backed up on a semi-regular basis, along with perhaps backing
 up a Win95 machine to the server also.

As many packages for tape backup is out there, as many differnt
opinions you will get.  I prefered kbackup (it´s small, non X, has
inventories which you can see with the tools abord any linux system,
used gzip and afio for maximum recovery).

   Could someone give me a suggestion on what backup package I should
 start looking at first?  Thanks in advance.

at first: look at tar (Tape ARchiver). :-)

Jens
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Re: Not able to use leafnode and trn?

1998-06-02 Thread Ian Lynagh

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Trevor Barrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
On Sun, 31 May 1998, Ian Lynagh wrote:

 trn depends on inews, so

Ah, but you don't need the actual inews package... the inewsinn package
Provides inews for dependency purposes. My system has trn, inewsinn,
and leafnode as the only packages installed from section news, and it
seems to work fine.

Ah, thanks  :-)
Everything seems to be working fine now  :-)

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Re: Accessing html forms...

POST requests should be quite simple to do in perl. Here's what a post request
looks like from the client:


 POST / HTTP/1.0
 Content-type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
 Content-length: 24

 foo=fdsafbar=jk%3Blasdf

The variables are passed in the body of the request. You can just string them
together, var=val[var=val]... doing character replacement as described
in the RFCs (hint: write your job in perl and use the CGI module which includes
uri_escape()).

Chris wrote:

 Hi all,

 This is off the topic, but I figured I could ask anyhow.

 I have to periodically access an post type form on a web page, and I would
 like to do this automatically (ie. write a script/program to do it, rather
 than having to load up netscape and do it by hand).  I've played with
 programs like snarf for downloading pages, but I need to actually post
 some data to a server.

 Anyone have any information on ways to do this?  I must admit that I don't
 know too much about http - expecially cgi stuff.

 Thanks for any help,

 Chris

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RE: LINUX Newbie

From personal experience: find the Using Debian Linux book (the pretty
blue cover is quite eye-catching! :-) and install from that. I downloaded
copies and did installs, but when I had the book and a CD to go from it made
things MUCH easier to get started! I got mine from Border's Books (Barnes 
Noble didn't have it, and I got the only one at Border's!). Best $30 or so I
ever spent...

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Re: low throughput on PPP link

1998-06-02 Thread Gregory Guthrie

At 09:35 AM 6/2/98 -0500, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:
  Well, you need to pass the speed to pppd as 115200, not 57600. You
see, the
  set_serial spd_vhi flag sets what speed will be used if 38400 is
selected.
  However, pppd can set the speed to 115200 just fine if you specify
it. You're
  specifying 57600 and that's what you're getting.
-- Does this mean;

1) setting 115200 is independent of any setting of {normal,hi,vhi}, or s
there an interaction, and thus only certain valid pairs.

2) Is the report of Baud-base rate from seterial -a the bottom line, it
says 115200 and normal.
lrouter# setserial -a /dev/ttyS0
/dev/ttyS0, Line 0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4
Baud_base: 115200, close_delay: 50, divisor: 0
closing_wait: 3000, closing_wait2: infinte
Flags: spd_normal skip_test session_lockout

   But, stty -a  /dev/ttyS0 says baud = 57600.

If so, I still wonder why we are only getting ~ 56K throughput..

Thanks.

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lp: Driver configured but no interfaces found.

1998-06-02 Thread Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella


Hi,

since I upgraded my kernel recently, this message keeps appearing in
my console.

lp: Driver configured but no interfaces found.

It happens every minute, or so. Since I don't have a printer, I tryed
killing lpd, and the messages stopped appearing.

Is this to be reported as a bug?

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Re: Dual screens

1998-06-02 Thread Chris Reed

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Johan Levin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I've recently come across an old monocrome
 display/display card. It works fine in dos,
 but I can't figure out how to use it in Linux.
 Can I e.g. create some device like /dev/console?
 
 I'd appreciate any help.

http://www.pandh.demon.co.uk/sw.html#linux

is the home of an mda driver, which drives /dev/mono (created by the
Makefile), which will let you redirect command's output to the MDA device.  
(I use it as a syslog device; add a line like 

*.*;cron.none   /dev/mono

to /etc/syslog.conf and restart it.

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PLEA FOR HELP! /usr/lib/crt1.o problems after hamm upgrade

1998-06-02 Thread servis

Hi all,

This is a second attempt at trying to get this issue resolved and an
update, so please excuse some repetition.

I upgraded to hamm over the weekend(using autoup.sh).

After the upgrade I removed all devel packages to get a clean start.

My first goal was to compile a new kernel.  So I installed the
kernel-source-2.0.32 package and all files it depends on(binutils,
libc-dev, gcc, make,ncurses-dev, tk-dev).  

Now when ever I try and compile anything not just the kernel source I
get the exact same failure error of:

/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0xe): undefined reference to `__libc_init_first'
/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x18): undefined reference to `_environ'

I have tried installing copies of the libc6-dev from different sources
to see if the file was corrupt but that did not help.  I have
completely removed it and reinstalled it a couple of times from
different sources as well.  

I am at a loss on this.  What do I need to fix, change, look for, etc.
To get this fixed.

Thank you,

Brian 
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FW: about K6 bug

Same results here - I'm running on a K5-75 (one of the 486-133
turbo-chips) in a Digital DECPC and not having any problems (no problems
that I didn't cause, anyway). Heard about all kinds of bugs in all the
different chips (AMD, Cyrix, MMX, PII, etc.) and have yet to run into one on
my systems (I have a K5-75, an Intel 486/100 and a PII-266 all running
Debian).

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 1998 6:34 AM
 To:   Debian Users
 Subject:  Re: about K6 bug
 
 On Tue, Jun 02, 1998 at 12:22:15PM +0400, Eugene Sevinian wrote:
  Sincerly speaking I have now idea how cricual is this, but as far as
  I consider K6 as a choice for upgrating my PC, I would like to know how
  reliable is this assuming that I have no intention to run this testing
  program very often.  
  
  Have someone experienced any serious proplem with this cpu?
 
 I have used a K6-233 for about 8 months now (until yesterday). It hasn't
 crashed in linux, and I've had uptimes  2 months before rebooting to
 windows. I used an AMD 5x86-133 before the K6. I just upgraded to a
 PII-400 because I need the speed for some applications for work. The
 new motherboard/cpu is slightly more than 2x faster than the K6 on my
 applications so far.
 
 I would recommend AMD processors and I've got friends who really like
 their cyrix chips on linux.
 


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Hardware

1998-06-02 Thread Timo Pettersson

Hi I sent a mail 6 mounth ago asking if Debian Linux suported my Riva128
chip in 3D and it didn't. Is it doing it now?

This Enlightment whitch make it look so nice is it free and whre can I get
it?

Thanks!

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Re: Basic cvs question

1998-06-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava

Hi,

File: cvs.info,  Node: Creating a repository,  Next: Backing up,  Prev: Multipl\
e repositories,  Up: Repository

Creating a repository
=

   To set up a CVS repository, first choose the machine and disk on
which you want to store the revision history of the source files.  CPU
and memory requirements are modest, so most machines should be
adequate.  For details see *Note Server requirements::.

   To estimate disk space requirements, if you are importing RCS files
from another system, the size of those files is the approximate initial
size of your repository, or if you are starting without any version
history, a rule of thumb is to allow for the server approximately three
times the size of the code to be under CVS for the repository (you will
eventually outgrow this, but not for a while).  On the machines on
which the developers will be working, you'll want disk space for
approximately one working directory for each developer (either the
entire tree or a portion of it, depending on what each developer uses).

   The repository should be accessable (directly or via a networked
file system) from all machines which want to use CVS in server or local
mode; the client machines need not have any access to it other than via
the CVS protocol.  It is not possible to use CVS to read from a
repository which one only has read access to; CVS needs to be able to
create lock files (*note Concurrency::.).

   To create a repository, run the `cvs init' command.  It will set up
an empty repository in the CVS root specified in the usual way (*note
Repository::.).  For example,

 cvs -d /usr/local/cvsroot init

   `cvs init' is careful to never overwrite any existing files in the
repository, so no harm is done if you run `cvs init' on an already
set-up repository.

   `cvs init' will enable history logging; if you don't want that,
remove the history file after running `cvs init'.  *Note history file::.


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Re: low throughput on PPP link

Gregory Guthrie wrote:

 At 09:35 AM 6/2/98 -0500, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:
   Well, you need to pass the speed to pppd as 115200, not 57600. You
 see, the
   set_serial spd_vhi flag sets what speed will be used if 38400 is
 selected.
   However, pppd can set the speed to 115200 just fine if you specify
 it. You're
   specifying 57600 and that's what you're getting.
 -- Does this mean;

 1) setting 115200 is independent of any setting of {normal,hi,vhi}, or s
 there an interaction, and thus only certain valid pairs.

it is independant and is not affected by the normal, hi, vhi flags. These come
into affect when the program tries to set the speed to 38400.

 2) Is the report of Baud-base rate from seterial -a the bottom line, it
 says 115200 and normal.
 lrouter# setserial -a /dev/ttyS0
 /dev/ttyS0, Line 0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4
 Baud_base: 115200, close_delay: 50, divisor: 0
 closing_wait: 3000, closing_wait2: infinte
 Flags: spd_normal skip_test session_lockout

But, stty -a  /dev/ttyS0 says baud = 57600.

 If so, I still wonder why we are only getting ~ 56K throughput..

baud_base refers to the clock attached to the 16550A. You see, the 16550A can
actually do much higher than 115200 but it is limited by the clock which is
included by the manufacturer. Some faster speed boards just have a regular 
16550A
(or clone) but include a faster clock. You can then use these cards by changing
the baud_base and divisor. (I've not done this so I may be confusing the details
of which are set for what, but you get the gist of it.)

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RE: LINUX Newbie

Yeah, that's the one (I'm at work, book's at home g...). Since it's really
the ONLY one, the choice didn't take too long... Haven't used any of the
others, but am thinking of springing for the Walnut Creek one. I could
really use a better reference book :-). Dale's book is great for getting
started but something a little more in-depth would be nice... 

Thanks for the correction!

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 Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 1998 10:14 AM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  RE: LINUX Newbie
 
 HOFrom personal experience: find the Using Debian Linux book (the
 pretty
 HOblue cover is quite eye-catching! :-) and install from that. I
 downloaded
 HOcopies and did installs, but when I had the book and a CD to go from it
 made
 HOthings MUCH easier to get started! I got mine from Border's Books
 (Barnes 
 HONoble didn't have it, and I got the only one at Border's!). Best $30 or
 so I
 HOever spent...
 
 Are you talking about Dale Scheetz's 'The Debian Linux User's Guide'?
 If so, that is also the book I chose for Debian.  Wasn't too hard a
 selection eh? ;)  My girlfriend works at a Border's, so I can 'borrow'
 any book, but I decided to get this one, especially for the 3 CD's it
 came with.  Have you ever seen Walnut Creek's 'Linux The Complete
 Reference'?  Supposedly has over 2000 pages.  I'm thinking about getting
 it, or the version before it with over 1600 pages.  Just don't want to
 pay for a bunch of noise.  Linux Systems Labs was selling the 1600+ page
 version along with three dists of Linux: RedHat, Slackware and Debian.
 Debian was 1.3, but they will send out updates for free when 2.0 is
 released.  It was only $32.95+s/h.  Doesn't sound too bad..
 
 Larry
 


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Re: plog not working in hamm.

1998-06-02 Thread Nathan E Norman

On Tue, 2 Jun 1998, Michael Acklin wrote:

[ snip ]

: 
:   You don't need to reboot to get the deamon to restart. Luckily on this
: list, I found out that you can do a ps ax and find out which process
: inetd is. Then do a kill -1 (PS#). That's the numeral one.

As usual, there's an even easier way.  Daemons such as inetd keep a PID
file in /var/run - so to get inetd to reread its config, do a 

kill -HUP `cat /var/run/inetd.pid`

In the case of daemons like Apache, I find it netter to use 

/etc/init.d/apache reload

(Or restart, or stop; start ... it's up to you!)

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changing networks?!?

1998-06-02 Thread Paul McDermott

hello everybody, i have a question, who doesn't on this list right?  ok
here it goes.  I have a computer at work connected to the net via
eathernet.  I have all of my networking working great.  My question is
when i bring it home what do i have to change?  hostname and ip address
comes to mind since at work i have my own.  i know it has to be something
like 192.168.xxx.xxx is right or some variation.  I was also wondering
about my gateway and resolv.conf in /etc.  The computer i am going to take
home is going to be connected to the internet by modem (not all the time
but sometimes)  I don't want to know specifically what to change ie
numbers bit what files to change.  I have the howto's at my home page but
i did not see to much on this subject.  I am going to use diald.  i don't
have to worry about connecting to my computer through the modem - just so
i can get out.  Any help or directions would be much appreciated.
If you need more information to help my conversion, please don't hesitate
to ask and i shall provide.


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hard disk restarting a couple of times an hour

1998-06-02 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.


I've noticed that even when I'm not using it, my hard disk is re-spun a time 
or two an hour.  THere's a brief slowing, followed by the click  bt as it 
restarts.

I originally assumed a looze cable, but I'm reasonably convinced that the 
power  ribbon cables are firmly in--however, jostling them causes a similar 
effect.

It generally doesn't cause a problem, though I've seen IDE not responding, 
attempting to initializze type messages if there is a read/write attempt when 
this happens.

THe drive is about 6 months old; a maxtor 8.4.  Should I be worried?  how do I 
figure out whether it's the drive or cables?

rick

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RE: FW: about K6 bug

I used one of the retail-boxed upgrade chips from Kingston or Evergreen
somebody like that (got it at Computer City, red box). My DECPC was
originally a 486/33 and supported the 486/66 or OverDrive chips; I used the
little bitty DIPs under the chip to set it to 4x instead of 3x, set the
clock on the board to 33mhz and the chip to OverDrive and didn't have any
problems. Tested under DOS with a boot disk test program (they include) and
fiddled with switches until I got the 133 speed and stable operation (some
settings aren't stable and others only resulted in 100mhz clock). 

I've never bought a m/b for Linux, but I'd say something like a Micronics or
other high-quality m/b should work good. I'd get one with SDRAM or EDO (each
being equal I'd get SDRAM, but EDO boards are probably a lot cheaper), a
EIDE disk controller on board (so you can add your choice of SCSI boards -
compatibility, since there's only a couple chipsets on m/b's), and the
highest clock speed you can find (83mhz is good, or wait a month or two and
get a 100mhz board with socket 7 so you can use the newer faster chips
coming out). I've heard good things from other people about the better
(read: more expensive) ASUS boards, or you could get a whole PC with a 166
or 200 Pentium or AMD for fairly cheap (ex: Office Max here in Anchorage has
Packard Bell 200MMX's with 32MB SDRAM, 3GB HD's, 56k modems etc. for $699.
The demo at the store has been running for over a month solid now with no
problems...). 

I'm sure there'll be lots of answers to this one, but since you asked :-)...

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 From: DAVID B. TEAGUE[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 1998 1:08 PM
 To:   Hogland, Thomas E.
 Cc:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: FW: about K6 bug
 
 
 On Tue, 2 Jun 1998, Hogland, Thomas E. wrote:
 
  Same results here - I'm running on a K5-75 (one of the 486-133
  turbo-chips) in a Digital DECPC and not having any problems (no
 problems
  that I didn't cause, anyway). Heard about all kinds of bugs in all the
  different chips (AMD, Cyrix, MMX, PII, etc.) and have yet to run into
 one on
  my systems (I have a K5-75, an Intel 486/100 and a PII-266 all running
  Debian).
 
 Hi Thomas
 
 Is the K5-75 a drop in replacement ofr the 486 66?  Where does one get
 the K5-75? I have a 486-66 that could use some improvement.
 
 I have a 386-25 that sports an EARLY Cyrix sort-of-486 with 1k cache
 that could use a mother board transplant. I'm not afraid of Cyrix nor of
 K5 or K6, but I would like some advice before buying something I can't
 eat. I hope several of my boards will be made unnecessary (disk
 contoller, io ports video). 
 
 Got any recommendations for a mother board say Pentium, 233 MHz, 512 K
 preferably 1MB cache, space for a bunch of memory, disk contoller on
 board? 
 
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Re: about K6 bug

1998-06-02 Thread dg

On Tue, 2 Jun 1998, Eugene Sevinian wrote:

 Hi all,

Hi Eugene!

 Recently, there were a lot of post in [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 concerning new K6 bug. Tests was done by 'crashme'. Here is excerption
 from Andreas Haumer [EMAIL PROTECTED] report.
 
 [... snipping this report ...]
 
 Sincerly speaking I have now idea how cricual is this, but as far as
 I consider K6 as a choice for upgrating my PC, I would like to know how
 reliable is this assuming that I have no intention to run this testing
 program very often.  
 
 Have someone experienced any serious proplem with this cpu?

As far as I can say, there are no problems with the AMD K6 CPUs. I have two
AMDs here at home (one AMD 586-DX/4-120 which is no K6, and a real AMD K6
PR2-200) and several at work, and they don't make problems at all. They are
running both under Linux (at home) and Win95 (at work, sniff...) and the
only disadvantage to the Pentiums is the slower FPU. A Pentium 166 runs
POVray faster than a K6-200. But when you are not doing much arithmetics,
the K6 is the CPU of choice, because it has a very good price/speed/quality
relation. 

But you should think about the board, in which your K6 should work. You
should search for an Intel HX chipset or another chipset which supports
more than 64 MB cacheable area. But be aware, not every old board supports
the K6. 

Bye

Daniel

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Re: Accessing html forms...

When Chris wrote, I replied:

I'd use pure perl for this, but if you don't already know perl5
the learning curve would be pretty steep.  If you commit to the
learning, though, you'll have expanded your toolkit in a BIG way.
 
 Hi all,
 
 This is off the topic, but I figured I could ask anyhow.
 
 I have to periodically access an post type form on a web page, and I would
 like to do this automatically (ie. write a script/program to do it, rather
 than having to load up netscape and do it by hand).  I've played with
 programs like snarf for downloading pages, but I need to actually post
 some data to a server.
 
 Anyone have any information on ways to do this?  I must admit that I don't
 know too much about http - expecially cgi stuff.
 
 Thanks for any help,
 
 Chris
 
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