Re: Quake Segfaults

1998-06-06 Thread Carey Evans
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Beattie) writes:

[snip: quake crashing after hamm upgrade]

> I was told a fix for this was an ldconfig . It worked for me, and
> everything is fine now... except.. (who knew that was coming?)

This probably makes it a bug in svgalib.

> I dont know where the problem is, but it is as if some sounds are played
> on /dev/audio and some on /dev/dsp , and most of them die.. the best way
> to explain it is when you try to cat a wav file to /dev/audio. Generally
> it is all static. that is what it is like in the game.

I'd noticed something like this and assumed it was a problem with my
cheap sound card.  How I fix it (which is probably completely
unrelated to the actual problem) is to quit, bplay a .wav file, then
restart the game until it works.

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Quake Sound Problem (was:Re: Quake Segfaults)

1998-06-06 Thread Michael Beattie
On Sat, 6 Jun 1998, Shaleh wrote:

> The ldconfig was needed do to a bug in the next to the last release of
> the svga lib package.

I am sorry, I dont understand, what do you mean here?

>  The maintainer helped w/ that one.  I have no
> problems w/ sound.  Is the permission on the audio devices ok and does
> sound work elsewhere?

crw-rw   1 root audio 14,   4 May 28  1997 /dev/audio
crw-rw   1 root audio 14,   3 Jan  8 20:37 /dev/dsp

Sound works fine in non-svgalib situations, like bplay and playaudio.
I dont have any other svgalib apps though.


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Re: Quake Segfaults

1998-06-06 Thread Michael Beattie
On Sat, 6 Jun 1998, Edward Betts wrote:

> On Sat, 06 Jun, 1998, Michael Beattie wrote:
> > On Sat, 6 Jun 1998, Jaakko Niemi wrote:
> > 
> > I was told a fix for this was an ldconfig . It worked for me, and
> > everything is fine now... except.. (who knew that was coming?)
> > 
> > I am still having trouble with sound in squake and quake2.
> > 
> > I dont know where the problem is, but it is as if some sounds are played
> > on /dev/audio and some on /dev/dsp , and most of them die.. the best way
> > to explain it is when you try to cat a wav file to /dev/audio. Generally
> > it is all static. that is what it is like in the game.
> 
> You can't cat a wav file to /dev/audio, only an au file wav is in the wrong
> format.

That I know, it was an example of what it sounds like
 
> The problem with quake is that you only have your sound card configured for
> 8bit and quake is doing 16 bit sound hence the static. I expect you have a
> ``soundblaster compatible'' that is not soundblaster 16 compatible.

You are right, it is not sb16 compatible, (ESS1868) but I have had it
working before, and I made no changes to the packages, the only change was
FAT -> FAT32 on the drives that hold the pak files, and a new motherboard.
I know either of these could be the problem, but I am stumped as to where
it can be fixed.
I can use `squake -sndbits 8' to get sound "better" but it then clicks
intermittently with the start of sounds.


btw: Pine can only open my mailbox readonly after hamm upgrade. what
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Re: which script is missing from rpm

1998-06-06 Thread Joey Hess
Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote:
> 
> Which script is it that rpm doesn't have, that dpkg does?  I had thought it 
> was the post-removal, but I'm being challenged on that:

None. In fact, rpm has one script debian lacks: the verify script.

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Re: loadlin and /

1998-06-06 Thread Bob Hilliard
Larry Walewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asks:
> Is it correct that if I am using loadlin to boot Linux from a DOS
> partition, I can put the root for Linux in a logical partition, i.e. it
> doesn't have to be hda2-4?  Can all Linux partitions then be contained
> in a logical partition or do any of them have to be a primary partition?

Hi,

 I use loadlin, and I have often successfully booted with /, swap
and /home all on separate logical partitons.

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Re: first script executed

1998-06-06 Thread Joey Hess
nico wrote:
> Thanks for all your answers.
> 
> I tried to look in the base files, but i didn't see anything ???
> I've tried to run ps ... at the begin, but nothing appears ( it only
> show adduser, dselect, but not the prog which call them ???)
> 
> I'm a bit confused and i'm still trying to fing some clue.

I think it's /sbin/unconfigured.sh, which is run by /etc/init.d/rcS.

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loadlin and /

1998-06-06 Thread The . Sage
Is it correct that if I am using loadlin to boot Linux from a DOS
partition, I can put the root for Linux in a logical partition, i.e. it
doesn't have to be hda2-4?  Can all Linux partitions then be contained
in a logical partition or do any of them have to be a primary partition?

Larry Walewski


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Re: Virtual terminals

1998-06-06 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
On: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 14:21:37 +0100 (BST) M C Vernon writes:
> 
> Dear all,
>   How can I address more than 6 vts? I have X installed, and it
> usually runs on altf7, but when it's running, I get
> Warning: dev (03:03) tty->count(1) != #fd's(2) in do_tty_hangup
> Appletalk 0.17 for Linux NET3.035

X will always use the next free virtual terminal.  Just edit your
/etc/inittab file and search for the block:

1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1
2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2
3:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty3
4:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty4
5:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty5
6:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6

Now just add lines like:
7:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty7
8:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty8
9:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty9
10:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty10
11:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty11

to create 5 additional virtual terminals.  Make sure that at least one
is free for starting X.

I have seen the error you mentioned above but don't know the reason
for it.

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Re: account disabled

1998-06-06 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
On: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 10:29:18 -0400 (EDT) Paul Miller writes:
> 
> Some of my users' accounts are getting disabled by the system.  I
> have not set any expiration dates, etc..  How do I re-enable them
> and prevent this from occurring again?

You should take a look at the values in the /etc/shadow files (their
meaning is explained in man shadow).  I have seen Unix systems that
disable an account after half a year by default.  Don't know if Debian
behaves the same with some version of adduser or useradd command.

Maybe you can use the passwd -u command to unlock the account.  Run
passwd -S prior to check the current status of the user.  The
inactivity period should be set to -1 for no expiry of the account.

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Re: Help:StarOffice in German?

1998-06-06 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, 6 Jun 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I downloaded StarOffice and installed only to find out it is in German, which 
> I don't
> understand.  Did I download the German version or is there a way to convert 
> it to English?

As I recall, there are two versions of several of the files, with the
suffix of .01 for English and (I think) .49 for German.

Bob


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Re: CD-rom and Zip-drive

1998-06-06 Thread Marc van der Vossen
>MV> I have a problem with my secondary IDE channel. I have a CD-rom as
>MV> slave ans
>MV> a Zip-drive as Master on that controller. When I insert my Debian-CD,
>MV> install goes OK. Then, after reboot, dselect starts and I say; load
from
>MV> CD-rom. That's the place it does not work. I tried installing a mitsumi
>MV> driver with the following settingns,
>MV> mcd=0x376,15
>
>No, this line is used for the running the a mitsumi cdrom attached to a
>soundcard (IIRC).
>
>You don't need any driver for atapi devices.

A ha, that's clear.
>
>You said "it does not work", but what message do you get?
It said something like CD-rom not found or something like that
>
>When you choose dselect's cdrom method, it will ask you about a block
>device.
>
>master at the 2nd IDE controller is /dev/hdc
>slave  at the 2nd IDE controller is /dev/hdd
>
>Try this when dselect asks you.
Works, just got to figure out how this CD was made. It says it hasn't a good
structure and asks me to enter the paths.

Just a few more q's:
1. As i mentioned I have an IDE zip-drive, it is recognized as a IDE floppy
drive, but it looks like a driver is missing or something, because it does
not want to read it. It says it doesn't have a msdos-file format, which it
does.

2. Same message on HDA3, where some linux packages are located. Here's my
partitioning on the 3,2 GB HD
HDA1: Boot 120 MB
HDA2: Root 1 GB
HDA3: msdos-type (for now) with mail, packages and stuff like that.
Is the problem that HDA3 starts after 540 (or something around that) MB ?
>
>Ciao,
> Martin
>
Thanks,

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Re: Building Kernel for Sound

1998-06-06 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, 6 Jun 1998, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:

> Ok, I have the right package now.
> 
> I looked at the make-kpkg man file and its a lot more complicated then I had 
> hoped
> :)
> 
> I ran make-kpkg and it just made the files again as I had before.
> 
> I probably changed a ton of things in the .config file while I was messing 
> things
> up with the stuff I was doing before.
> 
> What is the easiest way for me to take the kernel I am currently using (the
> default one) and add the soundblaster support. Or if there isn't an easy way, 
> what
> order of steps should I use to make a kernel?

If the configuration is messed up, delete .config and run 'make
menuconfig' and it will start with the default set.




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modem is not responding

1998-06-06 Thread Bob Hilliard
 Several weeks ago I bought a new ZOOM 56k modem.  I have gotten
consistently good speeds with it (in the order of 40,000 bps).  

 After I had been using it for a couple of weeks, it began to
intermittently fail to respond to ppp or minicom.  There is no error
message - just no response when any command is sent to the modem.  In
minicom, nothing appears on the screen when I type, and there is no
response to +++.  The minicom commands to initialize and reset are
accepted, but there is no apparent effect.

 It is very erratic - sometimes I can make a dozen or more ppp
connections in a session, other times I can only make one or two
connections before it fails to respond.  The only cure I have found is
to reboot, which is a pain.  I have never had it fail the first try
after a reboot.

 Does this sound like a hardware problem, or is there any possible
software problem?
 
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bridging?

1998-06-06 Thread Gregory Guthrie
I dselect'ed the bridge package from the standard distribution on CDROM,
and run with the updated kernel (2.0.30).

1) when I run brcfg, it reports:
 ioctl failed; package not installed.
  -- Why??

2) the man page discusses only Ethernet-ethernet bridging,
  -- will WAN bridging also work?
 en0--ppp   <<>>  ppp--en0

Thanks.

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Help:StarOffice in German?

1998-06-06 Thread lanceh
I downloaded StarOffice and installed only to find out it is in German, which I 
don't
understand.  Did I download the German version or is there a way to convert it 
to English?

Lance



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Re: Building Kernel for Sound

1998-06-06 Thread Ian Keith Setford
Yo-

> What is the easiest way for me to take the kernel I am currently using (the
> default one) and add the soundblaster support. Or if there isn't an easy way, 
> what
> order of steps should I use to make a kernel?
Do you have x-windows running?  If so, run 'make xconfig' in your kernel
source directory.  It is a GUI kernel config program and is much more
intuitive than menuconfig.  I will assume that you are referring to a SB16
PnP from here on.  You want to compile sound support as a module and then
add the correct IRQ, DMA, and addresses in the kernel config.  Then you
should compile with 'make dep; make clean; make zImage' when that is done
run 'make modules; make modules_install' and your kernel should be OK.
Copy it to /vmlinuz and reboot.  You may then need to use isapnptools to
set-up your sound card.  Compile your kernel and then get that package.  

Hope that helps,

-Ian

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Re: Building Kernel for Sound

1998-06-06 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Ok, I have the right package now.

I looked at the make-kpkg man file and its a lot more complicated then I had 
hoped
:)

I ran make-kpkg and it just made the files again as I had before.

I probably changed a ton of things in the .config file while I was messing 
things
up with the stuff I was doing before.

What is the easiest way for me to take the kernel I am currently using (the
default one) and add the soundblaster support. Or if there isn't an easy way, 
what
order of steps should I use to make a kernel?


thanks again!

Doug





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> Try the make-kpkg package.
> Then make menuconfig
> make-kpkg --revision (version nunber) buildpackage  in /usr/src/linux
> and dpkg -i kernel-imagedeb
> and you are done
> It is much simpler than the standard procedure
> George
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Re: Building Kernel for Sound

1998-06-06 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, 6 Jun 1998, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I have a soundblaster card I wanted to get working under my bo system.
> My system is currently running 2.0.33 so I downloaded the source so I
> could make a version with the sound blaster support.
> 
> Here is what I did
> 
> 1. make menuconfig - go through list and remove all the stuff that
> sounds like I don't need it.
> 
> 2. make dep
> 
> 3. make clean
> 
> 4. make zImage - This errors out because of the kernel size.
> 
> 5. make gzImage - Readme file says to do this if above didn't work

Do you mean "gzImage"?  Shouldn't this be "bzImage"?

> 
> 6. make modules
> 7. make modules_install
> 8. copy new kernel to /boot and make symbolic link to /linuz
> 9. run sbin/lilo - This errors out saying the kernel is to big!
> 
> The kernel size is about 1.4M where the one I downloaded during my
> initial install is only ~600K.  Why is mine so much bigger? The last try
> I gutted everything that didn't seem to be required...  Am I doing
> anything wrong in my process above?
> 

I wouldn't think that 'make gzImage' would do anything at all, but
apparently it made an uncompressed kernel.  Try 'make bzImage'.

An easy way to do all this with Debian is to use 'make-kpkg', which is in
kernel-package.  This compiles the kernel and creates a .deb package.
When you install this with dpkg, it puts everything where a Debian system
expects it and runs lilo. 

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Re: copying root partition

1998-06-06 Thread Bob Hilliard
Rick Macdonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I assume that on the new root partition, you have to manually create the
> /proc directory (mount point) and from there the kernel will fill it
> with whatever is required? Or will the kernel even create /proc?

 I have always manually created /proc.  I don't think the kernel
would create that mount point.  There is no magic about the directory
name proc - it could be called anything as long as fstab mounts the
proc file system on it.  The kernel provides the virtual entries in
the proc file system wherever it is mounted.  There really isn't
anything under /proc - it is just a way to access kernel information.

 In the course of upgrade testing I regularly copy a file system
to my test partition with cp-ax.  After copying, it is important to
edit /etc/fstab _before_ trying to mount the new partition.  After
editing fstab, I do ls /, then ls /mnt (assuming the newly copied
system is mounted on /mnt), so both are visible for comparison, and
make or remove directories in /mnt as necessary.

 As Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mentioned, this is almost a
religious matter.  There are several satisfactory methods using
find/tar/cpio that work well, and some very passionate advocates of
each method.  I prefer cp -ax because I don't have to look up a
command sequence.  I don't think any of the various methods have any
technical advantages over the others - it's just what you are used to
and happy with.

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Re: Building Kernel for Sound

1998-06-06 Thread Noel Yap
Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the input George,
> 
> I have looked all through the bo archive (using dselect) for a package called
> make-kpkg.  I do not see one on my mirror by that name.

That should be `kernel-package'.  It should be in the `misc' section,
IIRC.

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Re: Building Kernel for Sound

1998-06-06 Thread stephen . p . ryan
On  6 Jun, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:
> Thanks for the input George,
> 
> I have looked all through the bo archive (using dselect) for a package called
> make-kpkg.  I do not see one on my mirror by that name.
  ^  Try kernel-package instead.  The program to run (after you
  have installed kernel-package) is indeed called make-kpkg.

> 
> G Kapetanios wrote:
> 
>> Try the make-kpkg package.
>> Then make menuconfig
>> make-kpkg --revision (version nunber) buildpackage  in /usr/src/linux
>> and dpkg -i kernel-imagedeb
>> and you are done
>> It is much simpler than the standard procedure
>> George
>>

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Re: Building Kernel for Sound

1998-06-06 Thread M.C. Vernon

> Thanks for the input George,
> 
> I have looked all through the bo archive (using dselect) for a package called
> make-kpkg.  I do not see one on my mirror by that name.

The package is called kernel-package.

HTH,

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Re: Building Kernel for Sound

1998-06-06 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Thanks for the input George,

I have looked all through the bo archive (using dselect) for a package called
make-kpkg.  I do not see one on my mirror by that name.

Doug

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> Try the make-kpkg package.
> Then make menuconfig
> make-kpkg --revision (version nunber) buildpackage  in /usr/src/linux
> and dpkg -i kernel-imagedeb
> and you are done
> It is much simpler than the standard procedure
> George
>
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Re: copying root partition

1998-06-06 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, 5 Jun 1998, Rick Macdonald wrote:

: Nathan E Norman wrote:
: 
: 
: > :  When you copy an entire file system with cp -ax it skips any
: > : separate file systems, and doesn't even copy the mount points.  So
: > : after copying, you have to check the directories that contained the
: > : mount points, and create them in the new system.  I prefer to unmount
: > : as many separate files systems as possible before running cp -ax.
: 
: I assume that on the new root partition, you have to manually create the
: /proc directory (mount point) and from there the kernel will fill it
: with whatever is required? Or will the kernel even create /proc?

Uh, first, the part you quoted was written by Bob Hilliard, not me.  So
it's completely unclear to whom you are addressing your question.

If your question is "After copying my current root partition to a new
partition mounted on /mnt, using `cd /; find . -xdev -print | cpio -padm
/mnt' do I have to manually create /proc, etc." the answer is "No, you
do not."  All mount points are created using this method.  The
underlying filesystems are not copied, which is what you want.  That's
why I feel this method is superior, even if it means more typing than
`cp -ax' (and you can omit the "-print" from the `find' options, but my
first UNIX experience was on SCO, and it's become a habit.)

You do of course have to edit /mnt/etc/fstab, optionally run lilo if you
know how to do that when the new root is not mounted on root, make the
new root partition active, etc.  The root filesystem is the most
difficult one to move, and there are some tricks you can use to make it
easier.  The other filesystems are a lot easier to move, and generally
just need an entry added in /etc/fstab before rebooting (if indeed you
even need to reboot)

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Re: Xwin permission?

1998-06-06 Thread Niclas Anderberg


On Sat, 6 Jun 1998, Ed Cogburn wrote:

> Mikhali Mifsud wrote:
> > 
> > I dont understand, modify what file? Xinit? X? thanks.
> > 
> > ---Niclas Anderberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 5 Jun 1998, Mikhali Mifsud wrote:
> > >
> > > > How do I allow normal users run xwin?  Thanks.
> > >
> > > You make sure the owner of the file is root, then you set the suid bit:
> > >
> > > (as root):
> > >
> > > chmod +s 
> > >
> > > This goes for the server you are linking the X symbolic link to, not the
> > > link itself.
> > >
> > > /Nic
> > >
> 
> 
>   This probably isn't correct.  The README.Debian file for the xbase 
> package
> says that Debian isn't using symlinks for /usr/X11R6/bin/X.  This file on my
> system (hamm; XFree86 3.2.2; xbase_3.2.2.1-1.deb) is a true program; not a
> symlink.  So that file '/usr/X11R6/bin/X' is the file that gets the suid,
> i.e., "chmod u+s /usr/X11R6/bin/X".

You are probably right. I use all the distributions on different machines,
so i tend to mix them up (however debian is my fav :). However i remember
deleting that file by mistake to install Accelerated X. And when i didn't
want that old crappy version of bloatware anymore i got Xfree working with
just a symlink. Since it worked i never took the time to look inside the
file to see what it contained.. But it couldn't have been essential.
That was an old.. not that old, maybe 3.0 version of debian.

/Nic


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Re: Quake Segfaults

1998-06-06 Thread Edward Betts
On Sat, 06 Jun, 1998, Michael Beattie wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Jun 1998, Jaakko Niemi wrote:
> 
> I was told a fix for this was an ldconfig . It worked for me, and
> everything is fine now... except.. (who knew that was coming?)
> 
> I am still having trouble with sound in squake and quake2.
> 
> I dont know where the problem is, but it is as if some sounds are played
> on /dev/audio and some on /dev/dsp , and most of them die.. the best way
> to explain it is when you try to cat a wav file to /dev/audio. Generally
> it is all static. that is what it is like in the game.

You can't cat a wav file to /dev/audio, only an au file wav is in the wrong
format.

The problem with quake is that you only have your sound card configured for
8bit and quake is doing 16 bit sound hence the static. I expect you have a
``soundblaster compatible'' that is not soundblaster 16 compatible.

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Re: Building Kernel for Sound

1998-06-06 Thread G. Kapetanios

Try the make-kpkg package.
Then make menuconfig
make-kpkg --revision (version nunber) buildpackage  in /usr/src/linux
and dpkg -i kernel-imagedeb
and you are done
It is much simpler than the standard procedure
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Re: Xwin permission?

1998-06-06 Thread Ed Cogburn
Mikhali Mifsud wrote:
> 
> I dont understand, modify what file? Xinit? X? thanks.
> 
> ---Niclas Anderberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 5 Jun 1998, Mikhali Mifsud wrote:
> >
> > > How do I allow normal users run xwin?  Thanks.
> >
> > You make sure the owner of the file is root, then you set the suid bit:
> >
> > (as root):
> >
> > chmod +s 
> >
> > This goes for the server you are linking the X symbolic link to, not the
> > link itself.
> >
> > /Nic
> >


This probably isn't correct.  The README.Debian file for the xbase 
package
says that Debian isn't using symlinks for /usr/X11R6/bin/X.  This file on my
system (hamm; XFree86 3.2.2; xbase_3.2.2.1-1.deb) is a true program; not a
symlink.  So that file '/usr/X11R6/bin/X' is the file that gets the suid,
i.e., "chmod u+s /usr/X11R6/bin/X".


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Building Kernel for Sound

1998-06-06 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello,

I have a soundblaster card I wanted to get working under my bo system.
My system is currently running 2.0.33 so I downloaded the source so I
could make a version with the sound blaster support.

Here is what I did

1. make menuconfig - go through list and remove all the stuff that
sounds like I don't need it.

2. make dep

3. make clean

4. make zImage - This errors out because of the kernel size.

5. make gzImage - Readme file says to do this if above didn't work

6. make modules
7. make modules_install
8. copy new kernel to /boot and make symbolic link to /linuz
9. run sbin/lilo - This errors out saying the kernel is to big!

The kernel size is about 1.4M where the one I downloaded during my
initial install is only ~600K.  Why is mine so much bigger? The last try
I gutted everything that didn't seem to be required...  Am I doing
anything wrong in my process above?

Thanks,

Doug


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Re: Compiling a kernel

1998-06-06 Thread Bob Nielsen
kernel-package does this, including putting System.map- in
/boot.  It also gives you an option for creating a boot-floppy with the
new kernel.

What does system.map do?  I've compiled kernels before without
kernel-package and never had problems.  Likewise, what about boot.,
boot.b, etc.?

Bob

On Sun, 7 Jun 1998, Chris wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> There was some discussion a while ago about installing a new kernel.  I
> was just wondering if someone had some definate instructions for
> installing a 'debian compliant' kernel (with correct system.maps, etc,
> etc).  Following the instructions in the README for the kernel source does
> not work correctly (there is no mention of a system.map file for
> instance), and I've got a funny feeling I should be putting in a vmlinux
> (or vmlinuz ?) file instead of zImage.
> 
> Thanks for any help,
> 
> Chris
> 
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Re: Man errors?

1998-06-06 Thread Ed Cogburn
Ossama Othman wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> What does all of the following mean and how can I correct the problem?
> 
> # man afclient
> Updating index cache for path `/usr/man'. Wait...man: can't open
> /usr/man/man1/gnuserv.1: No such file or directory
> man: warning: /usr/man/man1/gnudoit.xemacs20.1.gz: bad symlink or ROFF
> `.so' request
> man: can't open /usr/man/man1/gnuserv.1: No such file or directory
> man: warning: /usr/man/man1/gnuclient.xemacs20.1.gz: bad symlink or ROFF
> `.so' request
> man: can't open /usr/man/man1/gnuserv.1: No such file or directory
> man: warning: /usr/man/man1/gnuattach.xemacs20.1.gz: bad symlink or ROFF
> `.so' request
> man: warning: /etc/alternatives/yaccman is a dangling symlink
> man: can't open /usr/man/man1/yacc.1: No such file or directory
> man: warning: /usr/man/man1/yacc.1.gz: bad symlink or ROFF `.so' request
> man: warning: /usr/man/man1/pstogif.xemacs20.1.gz is a dangling symlink
> man: can't open /usr/man/man1/pstogif.1: No such file or directory
> man: warning: /usr/man/man1/pstogif.1.gz: bad symlink or ROFF `.so'
> request
> man: warning: /etc/alternatives/tixwish.1.gz is a dangling symlink
> man: can't open /usr/man/man1/tixwish.1: No such file or directory
> man: warning: /usr/man/man1/tixwish.1.gz: bad symlink or ROFF `.so'
> request
> man: can't open /usr/man/man1/gnuserv.1: No such file or directory
> man: warning: /usr/man/man1/gnuclient.1.gz: bad symlink or ROFF `.so'
> request
> man: can't open /usr/man/man1/gnuserv.1: No such file or directory
> man: warning: /usr/man/man1/gnudoit.1.gz: bad symlink or ROFF `.so'
> request
> man: can't open /usr/man/man1/gnuserv.1: No such file or directory
> man: warning: /usr/man/man1/gnuattach.1.gz: bad symlink or ROFF `.so'
> request
> done.
> No manual entry for afclient
> 
> I know that I have no man page for afclient.  The above errors/warnings
> occur whenever I try to "man" a non-existent man page.
> 
> Thanks,
> -Ossama
> 


I had the exact same problem.  I don't know what started it though.  So,
this isn't the proper way to handle it (this is probably a bug in one of the
packages), but I solved the problem by going to /etc/alternatives and
deleting the dangling symlinks.  You should do this with mc (midnight
commander file manager) because it displays bad symlinks in red, so spotting
the problems is easy.


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Re: oops, the message

1998-06-06 Thread Ed Cogburn
Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote:
 
> d) if kernel-headers is installed after kernel-source, it seems to change the 
> linux >symlink to itself.  libc6dev seems to demand kernelheaders even if 
> source is already >installed.  this also causes "include/asm" is a directory 
> problems
> 
> rick
> 


Its supposed to do this.  There's been a major change in Linux "policy"
regarding headers.  From now on the standard headers will be distinct from
the actual headers from the source tree of your kernel source.  Debian has
chosen to standardize now on the headers from 2.0.32 for this purpose. 
You're supposed to use the actual kernel headers (the ones that belong to
the kernel you are currently running) only for programse (like drivers) that
need to now about internal kernel specifics.  Most other apps will work fine
with older, but stable, headers.  That's the theory anyway.


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Re: Compiling a kernel

1998-06-06 Thread Michael B. Taylor
Get the kernel-package package (in misc I think).  This is a wrapper for
kernel compilation process that will allow you to produce a custom
kernel-image package that may be installed with dpkg.

On Sun, 7 Jun 1998, Chris wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> There was some discussion a while ago about installing a new kernel.  I
> was just wondering if someone had some definate instructions for
> installing a 'debian compliant' kernel (with correct system.maps, etc,
> etc).  Following the instructions in the README for the kernel source does
> not work correctly (there is no mention of a system.map file for
> instance), and I've got a funny feeling I should be putting in a vmlinux
> (or vmlinuz ?) file instead of zImage.


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Compiling a kernel

1998-06-06 Thread Chris

Hi,

There was some discussion a while ago about installing a new kernel.  I
was just wondering if someone had some definate instructions for
installing a 'debian compliant' kernel (with correct system.maps, etc,
etc).  Following the instructions in the README for the kernel source does
not work correctly (there is no mention of a system.map file for
instance), and I've got a funny feeling I should be putting in a vmlinux
(or vmlinuz ?) file instead of zImage.

Thanks for any help,

Chris


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printing with samba

1998-06-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
Two Win95 client machines here have a weird problem printing to my LJ5L
via samba; they often say that an error occurred writing to \\Server\LJ5L.
Usually it works next time, although one of the clients is being
particularly stubborn tonight. Anyone ever seen this? I print from NT
more often than anyone else and NT works perfectly ...

It's a bo machine with sambades, and pam insists on writing millions
of log entries at every print attempt which is also getting rather
infuriating.


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Re: inode+superblock?

1998-06-06 Thread Tom Malloy
On Fri, 5 Jun 1998, Mikhali Mifsud wrote:

> What exactly is an inode and a superblock? Thanks.

An inode ( eye-node) is a datastructure on the disk the describes and
stores a files attributes, including its location.  
Aeleen Frisch
Essential system administration
OReilly and assoc

The information on a file (ownership, permissions, location on disk)
cannot be kept in the file. It must be kept somewhere else. Somewhere else
is the Inode.

The super block is a block on the disk where critical system information
is kept.  It is so important that your install will create many duplicates
just in case every 8192 blocks.  The system will not work if your
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mail

1998-06-06 Thread Michael Beattie
I have another problem after my upgrade to hamm, pine says:

Can't open mailbox lock, access is readonly

where can I fix this?


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notebook install problem

1998-06-06 Thread Tom Malloy
I am trying to install debian on a refurbished  compaqu LTE lite 4/33
The following error appears when I am booting off my rescue disk
"hda: unexpected_intr: error=0x04 {DriveStatusError}
hda:  unexpected_intr status=0x01 {Error}

Does this mean the drive is bad or is there a work around?  I looked at
the Linux on laptops entry for the 4/25, but did not see any special boot
paramaters listed. Any help is appreciated.  Thanks


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RE: Using Both IDE and SCSI Controllers

1998-06-06 Thread Dan Plaster
Hello Allan,

I currently have a buslogic BT946 controller with one 1 gig conner scsi drive
and then a 420 meg ide drive and an 850 ide drive.  It all works fine.  The
scsi drive only has linux stuff on it and then one ide drive has a linux
partition (/) for booting and that sort of stuff.  Works fine.

On 05-Jun-98 Allan Bart wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I was wondering if any of the users on this group have concurrently
> run both types of disk drives. i am planning to use an advansys 5140
> and an internal ide controller on my old ast 486dx system. 
> 
> looking ro hear from you,
> 
> allan bart
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Quake Segfaults

1998-06-06 Thread Shaleh
The ldconfig was needed do to a bug in the next to the last release of
the svga lib package.  The maintainer helped w/ that one.  I have no
problems w/ sound.  Is the permission on the audio devices ok and does
sound work elsewhere?


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Re: Problem with new hamm version of ncurses

1998-06-06 Thread Liran Zvibel
HI.

I didn't upgrage to hamm yet,(I planed to so it this weekend, but then my
monitor blew up, and when I fixed it (and after replacing my motherboard,
cpu, memory, graphics card and modem) my power-supply stopped working (I
might have to take it to a real technician to see if I did something
wrong) , but this has nothing to do with the question :) )
 but I think that the problem is that the
programs don't call refresh() after the endwin() (so the screen returns to
the previous state). You can try to look at the source code, and see
whether I'm right. 

All you have to do to fix it, is add a refresh() line at the end. (Or
where-ever it is appropriate in those programs)

However, I don't think that this is the problem, since it is to easy to
fix...

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> Hi
> 
> I have upgraded to the new hamm version of ncurses, but I lost the 2 screen
> option under xterm. Now when I quit vi, less or elm, the xterm screen does not
> return to the previous state before any of these commands were executed.
> Is there a way to fix that.
> 
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Re: Quake Segfaults

1998-06-06 Thread Michael Beattie
On Sat, 6 Jun 1998, Jaakko Niemi wrote:

> >> After my fun experience upgrading to hamm, everything has been goin well,
> >> but I have had one problem. After upgrading svgalib, squake seg faults
> >> when started. (so does quake2) Is there a problem with svgalib?
> >> 
> >> svgalib-bin  1.2.13-3.2
> >> svgalibg11.2.13-3.2
> >> svgalib1 1.2.13-3.2
> >> 
> >> quake2   3.14a-2
> >> squake   1.06-5
> >> quake-lib-stub 1.3
> 
>  I had the same thing. It just segfaulted at the start. In my todo list is to 
>  find out against which to file a bug, either svgalib or quake. Haven't
>  yet find out which does take the blame. Hmmf. about time to do 
>  something about this. 
> 
>  BTW. This happened with gl and svga, not with x rendering.
>  Seems to be related to mouse / keyb handling, but not sure.
>  I solved this by compiling svgalib from the sources.

I was told a fix for this was an ldconfig . It worked for me, and
everything is fine now... except.. (who knew that was coming?)

I am still having trouble with sound in squake and quake2.

I dont know where the problem is, but it is as if some sounds are played
on /dev/audio and some on /dev/dsp , and most of them die.. the best way
to explain it is when you try to cat a wav file to /dev/audio. Generally
it is all static. that is what it is like in the game.


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Re: 1 SCSI & 1 IDE hdd w/LILO

1998-06-06 Thread Jaakko Niemi
>> Yo-
>> 
>> I just added a SCSI drive to my computer.  I now have a 4.3g SCSI and a
>> 2.1g IDE.  I have moved Debian to /dev/sda1 and I have installed Winblows
>> on the IDE (/dev/hda1) so I can play StarCraft and Unreal.  I have had no
>> luck with LILO.  It will boot to Debian no problem but I can't get Windows
>> to start.  When I see the LILO: prompt and hit tab I get both choices but
>> when I type "Win95" it just blinks and shows the LILO: prompt again.  Any
>> ideas?

 Humm ho!

 You might just have one of those motherboards that cannot boot from the ide
 drive, if there is scsi drive installed. Check your bios settings (most not so 
old
 clone/standard/whatever mb's have options to boot from scsi/ide/etc.).
 
 What mb / machine do you have ?

 Then if your mb supports to boot from ide instead of scsi, I think you can 
 install lilo into the ide drive's mbr and boot Linux and 95 from there. 
  
>> Here is my lilo.conf:
>> 
>> boot=/dev/hda
>> root=/dev/sda1
>> compact
>> install=/boot/boot.b
>> map=/boot/map
>> vga=normal
>> delay=20
>> image=/vmlinuz
>> label=Linux
>> append="mem=96M"
>> read-only
>> other=/dev/hda1
>> label=Win95
>> table=/dev/hda


 I think this is correct.

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Re: PPP problem

1998-06-06 Thread Jaakko Niemi
>> I also don't have device driver for Sound Blaster.  I tried using MAKEDEV,
>> but I don't have any docs.  Can someone who got his/her SB to work tell me
>> what to do?
>> Thx in advance :)

 You'll need to have the sound drivers enabled, either as modules (the stock
 kernels come with there, right, anybody?) or compiled in the kernel. 
 You have these, right ? After these you can start worrying about the devices.
 
 At worst case you'll need isapnptools (if it is a pnp card) to initialize the
 card at boot and compile the kernel to match your hardware. Don't worry,
 it's not that hard, but there are a couple pitholes. Please read all the sound
 documentation from /usr/doc/HOWTO and from kernel sources, 
 (/usr/src/[path to the kernel sources]/Documentation or /usr/src... 
 /sound/..)

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Re: Q: Second Ethernet Card

1998-06-06 Thread Jaakko Niemi
>> I am planing on purchasing a 256k DSL to my Linux server.
>> I currently have one Ehternet card that is connected to
>> my home PC with a crossover cable.  I will need to purchase
>> an additional Ethernet card for my Server to connect to the
>> DSL connection.
>> 
>> Should I purchase the cable and then completely rebuild the
>> server from the ground up with the two Ethernet cards, or just
>> place the second one in and go from there?  If I just place
>> the second one in, what will have to be done to get it online?
 
 Just put the second card and configure it. It has couple pitholes, 
 but is not that hard. If the DSL line endst to a RJ45 connector, 
 the ger a Intel EtherExpress card and be happy. There are a 
 few HOWTOS in you know where :)

>> BTW - As I get ready to place my server on the net with DSL,
>> I was planning to setup Sendmail for email, Apache as my
>> Web Server and TIC as my Firewall (to protect my home PC
>> on the other Ethernet card).  Does this look OK?  or is there
>> something else I should do?

 In my experience Exim is easier and more secure and . etc.
 I've been using it for some 5-6 months now, without problems.
 The hamm version is pretty good. Apache sounds good, but
 I have now experience, same with firewalls. Just about the 
 time to learn :)

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Re: Quake Segfaults

1998-06-06 Thread Jaakko Niemi
>> After my fun experience upgrading to hamm, everything has been goin well,
>> but I have had one problem. After upgrading svgalib, squake seg faults
>> when started. (so does quake2) Is there a problem with svgalib?
>> 
>> svgalib-bin  1.2.13-3.2
>> svgalibg11.2.13-3.2
>> svgalib1 1.2.13-3.2
>> 
>> quake2   3.14a-2
>> squake   1.06-5
>> quake-lib-stub 1.3

 I had the same thing. It just segfaulted at the start. In my todo list is to 
 find out against which to file a bug, either svgalib or quake. Haven't
 yet find out which does take the blame. Hmmf. about time to do 
 something about this. 

 BTW. This happened with gl and svga, not with x rendering.
 Seems to be related to mouse / keyb handling, but not sure.
 I solved this by compiling svgalib from the sources.

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Re: Xwin permission?

1998-06-06 Thread Mikhali Mifsud

I dont understand, modify what file? Xinit? X? thanks.



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>
> On Fri, 5 Jun 1998, Mikhali Mifsud wrote:
> 
> > How do I allow normal users run xwin?  Thanks.
> 
> You make sure the owner of the file is root, then you set the suid
bit:
> 
> (as root):
> 
> chmod +s 
> 
> This goes for the server you are linking the X symbolic link to, not
the
> link itself.
> 
> /Nic
> 
> 
> 

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Re: CD-rom and Zip-drive

1998-06-06 Thread Mike Schmitz
On Fri, Jun 05, 1998 at 07:49:17PM +0200, Marc van der Vossen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a problem with my secondary IDE channel. I have a CD-rom as slave ans
> a Zip-drive as Master on that controller. When I insert my Debian-CD,
> install goes OK. Then, after reboot, dselect starts and I say; load from
> CD-rom. That's the place it does not work. I tried installing a mitsumi
> driver with the following settingns,
> mcd=0x376,15
> Is this correct ?
> I tried setting CD as Master and Zip as slave, but the system does not run
> and I can't even get the dos driver, nor the win95 driver to work.
> 

I have the same configuration. It worked fine until I upgraded to a TX 
motherboard. After that Linux would not recognize my cdrom drive. I finally
got it workin with the cdrom as slave to the zip, and added this line to 
my /tec/lilo.conf:

append="hdc=cdrom"

It gives me a warning or two at bootup, but every thing works fine.

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Re: help: uid_t structure !

1998-06-06 Thread Oliver Elphick
Nuno Carvalho wrote:
  >  I am trying to compile one file called xpriv.c which belongs to the
  >Radio Track install ! Unfortunally i get that:
  >
  >
  >xpriv.c: In function `give_up_root`:
  >xpriv.c:30: `uid_t` undeclared (first use this function)
  >xpriv.c:30: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
  >xpriv.c:30: for each function it appears in.)
  >xpriv.c:30: parse error before `uid`
  >xpriv.c:33: `uid` undeclared (first use this function) 
  >
  >---
  >
  > The code is:
  >
  >---
  >#include 
  >#include 
  >
  >int give_up_root(void) 
  >{
  >   /* get the real uid and give up root */
  >   uid_t uid;
  >   int err;
  >
  >   uid=getuid();
  >   err=seteuid(uid);
  >   return (err);
  >}
  >-
  >
  >What is going wrong ?
  >
  > uid_t structure isn`t already defined ?

You also need:

#include 

I am reporting this as a bug in the manpage of getuid and setuid against
manpages-dev.


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Re: copying root partition

1998-06-06 Thread Rick Macdonald
Nathan E Norman wrote:


> :  When you copy an entire file system with cp -ax it skips any
> : separate file systems, and doesn't even copy the mount points.  So
> : after copying, you have to check the directories that contained the
> : mount points, and create them in the new system.  I prefer to unmount
> : as many separate files systems as possible before running cp -ax.

I assume that on the new root partition, you have to manually create the
/proc directory (mount point) and from there the kernel will fill it
with whatever is required? Or will the kernel even create /proc?

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Re: help: uid_t structure !

1998-06-06 Thread Nuno Carvalho
Michael D. Figley wrote:
> 
> Nuno Carvalho wrote:
> >
> ...
> > What is going wrong ?
> >
> >  uid_t structure isn`t already defined ?
> >
> >  Thanks.
> >
> >  Best regards,
> >Nuno Carvalho
> >
> 
> I think including  should fix.

 Yes, it`s enough ! :))

 Thank`s, Michael ! :))


 Best regards,
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inode+superblock?

1998-06-06 Thread Mikhali Mifsud
What exactly is an inode and a superblock? Thanks.




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help: uid_t structure !

1998-06-06 Thread Nuno Carvalho
Hi,

  I am trying to compile one file called xpriv.c which belongs to the
Radio Track install ! Unfortunally i get that:


xpriv.c: In function `give_up_root`:
xpriv.c:30: `uid_t` undeclared (first use this function)
xpriv.c:30: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
xpriv.c:30: for each function it appears in.)
xpriv.c:30: parse error before `uid`
xpriv.c:33: `uid` undeclared (first use this function) 

---

 The code is:

---
#include 
#include 

int give_up_root(void) 
{
   /* get the real uid and give up root */
   uid_t uid;
   int err;

   uid=getuid();
   err=seteuid(uid);
   return (err);
}
-

What is going wrong ?

 uid_t structure isn`t already defined ?


 Thanks.

 Best regards,
   Nuno Carvalho


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ppp0 and "SIOCADDRT: Operation not supported by device"

1998-06-06 Thread Paul Miller

The NET-3 FAQ says to use the following commands to setup ip masquerading
through ppp0 :

# Network route for ethernet
route add -net 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 eth0
#
# Default route to the rest of the internet.
route add default ppp0
#
# Cause all hosts on the 192.168.1/24 network to be masqueraded.
ipfwadm -F -a m -S 192.168.1.0/24 -D 0.0.0.0/0 


When I run "route add default ppp0", I get an error message, "SIOCADDRT:
Operation not supported by device" ... how can I fix this?

I'm using kernel 2.0.34, ip masquerading is built in and running on eth0
--> eth1... I'm trying to get ppp0 --> eth1 working...

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Re: Using Both IDE and SCSI Controllers

1998-06-06 Thread Lee Bradshaw
On Fri, Jun 05, 1998 at 02:35:32PM -0700, Allan Bart wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I was wondering if any of the users on this group have concurrently
> run both types of disk drives. i am planning to use an advansys 5140
> and an internal ide controller on my old ast 486dx system. 

I used an ASUS SP3G with built-in ide and scsi (NCR). I booted off the
450MB ide and had a 100MB SCSI swap disk (yeah, disk not partition) and
a 330MB SCSI root disk.

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Re: AIC7XXX in 2.0.34

1998-06-06 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

On Fri, 5 Jun 1998, Peter S Galbraith wrote:

> Jesse Goldman wrote:
> 
> > This may be a silly question but it's related vaguely to the above which
> > has already been brought up. Has anyone had trouble with AIC7XXX support
> > for 2.0.34? Apparently, there have been many changes since 2.0.33 and it
> > doesn't seem to work properly for me anymore.
> 
> Oups!  I said it worked for me... On closer inpestion it failed to detect
> my external devices.  Strange!

Master had several problems when we tried the pre-10 .34 AIC driver as
well, I haven't checked if they are resolved yet.

Jason


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ppp network settings

1998-06-06 Thread Paul Miller

I'm tring to setup dialup to my linux box.  Currently, I can connect,
login, and resolve DNS.  I can not ping _any_ ip addressess (not even my
linux box).

I think I have the DNS and /etc/hosts configured correctly.  However, the
ppp0 <---> eth1 is not configured at all.  I only have one ip address, so
ip masquerading needs to be setup.  I already have ip masquerading from
eth0 <---> eth1 working.

Can anyone help me?

Thanks
-Paul


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