Re: Compilación del kernel

1998-09-07 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Mon, Sep 07, 1998 at 07:13:02AM +0100, Luís M. Arocha Hernández wrote:
 ¿Sabe alguien la diferencia entre el disco de rescate normal y de Toshiba
 tecra?
 Estoy compilando el kernel y tengo el mismo síntoma por el que tuve que
 usar el 
 juego de diskettes de tecra: Con el normal el equipo se reseteaba a poco de
 arrancar.

El disco tecra tiene un parche para tratar ciertos problemas de
coherencia de la caché al habilitar/deshabilitar la linea A20 durante el
arranque. El parche (y la explicación completa) los puedes obtener en
http://www.cck.uni-kl.de/misc/tecra710/ . El parche también lo
puedes obtener en mi espacio web (no hay página todavía) O:-) 
http://master.debian.org/~ezanard/toshiba-a20.diff.gz

Saludos,
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acentos, eñes,...

1998-09-07 Thread M.G.
hola,

por lo que he ido leyendo en anteriores mensajes, he visto varios
modos de cambiar el teclado para que acepte vocales acentuadas,
eñes, diéresis.  Al añadir, como alguien sugirió, en /etc/profile:

export LC_ALL=es_ES
export LANG=es_ES

puedo leer y escribir los acentos tónicos y átonos, diéresis,
eñes,...  pero también si suprimo una de esas dos líneas,
cualquiera de ellas, el efecto es el mismo ???

Otra cosa que me ha cambiado, es que ahora, al hacer, por
ejemplo:

ls --help

la ayuda me aparece en castellano.  Fantástico, pero yo tan sólo
quería poder leer y escribir esos caracteres... no importa.

Ahora bien, en X los siguientes programas siguen sin reconocer
los susodichos caracteres:  xcoral, xedit, textedit,... cmdtool, shell
tool.
mientras que Xemacs20, lyx, xterm, tkdesk, sí que los reconocen.
En consola, emacs19 o joe no los reconocen, mientras que bash
sí.  ¿Cómo puedo solucionar esto?

También se habló de ~/.inputrc, y lo que yo veo es /etc/inputrc*:

# set convert-meta off

# Be 8 bit clea
set input-meta on
set output-meta on

Alguien dijo que había que descomentar la primera (set conver-
meta off) ... pero dice algo más sobre eso, que en lugar de M
(Meta), se usaría ESC... ¿qué signfica exactamente?

* ¿debo copiar /etc/inputrc a /home/user/.inputrc y entonces
editarla a mi gusto?  Si es así, esto valdría sólo para un usuario...
si lo copio a /root/.inputrc , ¿valdría para todos, o sólo para root?


Un saludo,



Horacio
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Configuracion XFree86 (fwd)

1998-09-07 Thread Richard Christian Hidalgo


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Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 11:18:45 +0200 (CET)
From: Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Richard Hidalgo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Configuracion XFree86 (fwd)

Hola.

La dirección de la lista es debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org

La dirección -request es solamente para suscribirse o borrarse.

Gracias.

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Date: 7 Sep 1998 06:57:39 -
From: Richard Hidalgo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Configuracion XFree86

Hola!. Estoy empezando a desesperar. Necesito ayuda!!!. He intentado por
activa y por pasiva configurar XFree86 para mi tarjeta y no hay manera.
Me podeís dar alguna pista?. Os envío la salida del SuperProbe:

First video: Super-VGA
 Chipset: Sigma Designs REALmagic64/GX (SD 6425) (PCI Probed)
 RAMDAC:  Sierra SC1148{2,3,4} 15-bit or SC1148{5,7,9} 15/16-bit HiColor

   (with 6-bit wide lookup tables (or in 6-bit mode))


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Configuracion XFree86 (fwd)

1998-09-07 Thread Richard Christian Hidalgo


-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 11:18:45 +0200 (CET)
From: Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Richard Hidalgo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Configuracion XFree86 (fwd)

Hola.

La dirección de la lista es debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org

La dirección -request es solamente para suscribirse o borrarse.

Gracias.

-- Forwarded message --
Date: 7 Sep 1998 06:57:39 -
From: Richard Hidalgo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Configuracion XFree86

Hola!. Estoy empezando a desesperar. Necesito ayuda!!!. He intentado por
activa y por pasiva configurar XFree86 para mi tarjeta y no hay manera.
Me podeís dar alguna pista?. Os envío la salida del SuperProbe:

First video: Super-VGA
 Chipset: Sigma Designs REALmagic64/GX (SD 6425) (PCI Probed)
 RAMDAC:  Sierra SC1148{2,3,4} 15-bit or SC1148{5,7,9} 15/16-bit HiColor

   (with 6-bit wide lookup tables (or in 6-bit mode))


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HOWTO sobre como crear debs

1998-09-07 Thread J. Parera
Hola,
 hace ya mucho tiempo me pasaron un HOWTO en preparación (ya final) para que lo
repasase que trataba sobre la creación de archivos deb, el caso es que lo perdí
(ya empieza a ser costumbre en mi ) alguien podría pasarmelo o indicarme una
dirección donde conseguirlo?

Saludos y gracias,
  Josep Parera


Re: WindowMaker 0.19.0 y locales

1998-09-07 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sun, Sep 06, 1998 at 02:53:06PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 El caso es que, a partir de ese momento, el wm no arranca, dando el mensaje:
 /usr/X11R6/bin/WindowMaker error in loading shared libraries:
 undefined symbol _Xsetlocale

(Marcelo dice algo respecto a un tal Overfiend...)

 ¿Alguien tiene una idea de lo que me puede estar pasando?

Si. Hay un pequeño errorcito en las dependencias de wmaker, dice que es
xlib6g (= 3.3-5) cuando en realidad es xlib6g (= 3.3.2). Instala el xlib6g
más reciente de hamm (hamm/main/binary-i386/x11/xlib6g_3.3.2.3-1.deb) y
funciona.


  Marcelo,
  tratando de hacer llegar la actualizacion a 200 b/s a master.debian.org


Re: Exim questions

1998-09-07 Thread David Warnock
Georg

Thanks, I am looking at the docs now. There are a lot! I have not yet
understood the smartuser so I think I will start by using the aliases (I
found out how to do them when looking at the docs for smartuser ;-).


Dave



Georg Bauer wrote:
 
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David
 Warnock) wrote:
 
 this behaviour so that instead all messages that are not to a valid
 account get sent to a named account and do not get rejected.
 
 You should look up the description of the smartuser director in the exim
 documentation. That does exactly what you need.
 
 bye, Georg


Help!!!

1998-09-07 Thread 李嘉




dear master:

 I'm very sorry to ask for 
this.But can you help me to stop messages from sending to my mailbox? It's 
filled with mails about debian.
 
thanks!


chmod help

1998-09-07 Thread Default Debian Reader
How can i change the perms on a directory so that a file that is copied into 
that directory is automatically owned by another user and group?


Re: using debian passwords in NT.

1998-09-07 Thread Rainer Clasen
Pere Camps ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
   Does anybody know of a way of making winNT use the usernames and the
 passwords of a debian machine?

Maybe you can try NISGINA. It appears to turn your NT box into a NIS client.
Can't tell more - I've never got to use it.


Try this URL, I don't know if its still valid
http://www.dcs.qmw.ac.uk/~williams/



Rainer

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Re: ppp connection with Demon

1998-09-07 Thread Daniel Martin at cush
Tom Bowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Incidentally it's not just receiving and sending data that is
 slow. There is also a 20-30 second delay between sending the modem
 initialisation (and phone number for that matter) strings and
 getting any response. Could it be something to do with the serial
 interface itself. I am now about 100 miles from anything I know
 anything about, but it's a hell of a lot more interesting than
 windows.

I think you may be onto something here - since you're getting data,
but there are serious timing delays (that you're certain aren't caused 
by Demon being slow - that is, delays even in the init strings), you
may have the wrong IRQ set on your serial device, or there may be some 
conflict in IRQ settings.  Do a:
 setserial /dev/modem
(or /dev/ttyS1, or /dev/WhateverYourModemIs)
and note the results.  Since you are getting data, the port setting is 
correct and the UART listed is correct or close enough.  The IRQ,
however, may well be wrong.  If you have some other OS in which the
modem works well, you could look at the device information for the
modem there.  Once you have the correct IRQ for your modem, you'll
want to edit /etc/rc.boot/0setserial down around lines 25-30 and fix
the information there.  You can then as root run
/etc/rc.boot/0setserial and try your modem again.

Is the modem a plug-and-play internal modem?  If so, look at using the
isapnptools to set up the modem.  (You'll have to run one program to
dump out the configuration info. on your modem, edit that file to suit
your needs, and then run another program on the edited file to set the
configuration in your modem - once you get the config. the way you
want it, putting it into /etc/isapnp.conf will have it used at
boottime - but there's much more info. in the isapnp docs)  Note that
if you have an external modem that calls itself plug-and-play, this
doesn't actually mean anything.  (Well, not anything that you care
about with regards to setting up your modem for linux)

If the modem is an internal one with switches/jumpers, you'll need to
look at it and your modem manual to determine what IRQ it's set to.
(If you've lost the modem manual, you might want to check the
manufacturer's web site).  If it's an external modem, then the IRQ's
are probably 4 for /dev/ttyS0 (aka com1) and 3 for /dev/ttyS1 (aka
com2).  However, some machines (like mine) have BIOSes which can alter 
this, so that the built-in com ports use IRQ's 4 and 12.  Check your
BIOS's setup menu.

DANIEL MARTIN

p.s.  What are all these settings: IRQ, io port (sometimes called
just port) and the UART number?
Well, UART is just a number that identifies the type of chip
controlling the serial device.  The kernel needs to know this so that
it can know how large a buffer the device has, what speeds it supports, 
how it reports line conditions (like hardware flow control), etc.
UART type can usually be detected automatically.  The most common
UARTs are the 16550, 16550A, and 16650.  This number is something
specific only to serial devices.
The io port and IRQ require a very brief explanation of how the processor
gets data from other devices in the system.  Essentially, all devices
in the system are connected to one set of wires called the data bus.
The processor, when it wishes to send or get data, will set some wires 
to identify the address it wishes to access, a wire to indicate
whether this is a read or a write, and will then either set the
relevant data wires for a write or assume that whatever device
responds to this address has set their state as soon as it requested
the read and will then read the data wires.  (this is oversimplified,
but you get the idea).  Anyway, the io port is the address the
processor uses to get and send data to the modem.  (actually, serial
devices generally need 8 consecutive address; you specify only the
first one - this is why this will sometimes be called the base io
port address or io base; these ports are used not only to send and
receive data but also to set/get status information)  You can see what 
devices use which io ports on your system by doing cat
/proc/ioports.

Now, when a device needs to tell the processor something (like
incoming data or my output buffer is empty, you could send more),
the device can't force the processor to do a read.  Instead, what the
device does is raise a signal saying in essence pay attention to
me.  It does this through an Interrupt ReQuest, or IRQ.  There are, 
I believe, only 16 of these lines available and several are allocated
to system things (like the separate chip that controls the clock, or
the keyboard, or the internal line used to signal floating point math
errors).  With an IRQ set incorrectly, the processor would not realize 
that there was incoming data on the modem - this could cause the
unbelievably slow response time you seem to have.  You can find out
which devices use which irq lines by doing cat /proc/interrupts.


Re: Backspace in xterm (again)

1998-09-07 Thread Jeremy Hinegardner
I had the same problem, I found a solution, it may not be the best
solution but it works for me.

I used xmodmap to make the backspace key work in the way you want.
check your keymap table for X (xmodmap -pke).  If BackSpace is not in it
then add it using the command (xmodmap -e keycode 22 = BackSapce). At
least for my system that is what BackSpace is.  Then dump the keymap table
again to make sure it took (xmodmap -pke).  That should make it work for
the current session.  To make the change permanent take the output from
xmodmap -pke and dump it to the /etc/X11/Xmodmap file.  This is used by
both xdm and xinit (according to my documentation).  This will make the
change permanent globally.  To make the change on a per-user basis put a
.xmodmap file in the users directory.

Read the man on xmodmap for more stuff.  I hope this helps.

-jeremy


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On Sun, 6 Sep 1998, Joost Witteveen wrote:

   Does anybody know what I should do to get my beloved backspace back again
   (yes, I want backspace to delete the char left to the curser, as it does
   in the VC's).
  
  Make sure the following is present in your /etc/X11/Xresources:
 
 Thanks. But unfortunately, it _is_ already present!
 
  *Text.translations: #override ~Shift ~Meta KeyDelete: 
  delete-next-character()
  XTerm*termName: xterm-debian
  *VT100*backarrowKey: false
  *VT100.Translations: #override KeyBackSpace: string(\177)\n\
 KeyDelete: string(\033[3~)\n\
 KeyHome: string(\033OH)\n\
 KeyEnd: string(\033OF)
  
  I don't like introducing xterm-debian terminfo entry myself and just renamed
  it to xterm.
 
 And my $TERM variable already is set to xterm-debian.
 
 
 
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kernel problems

1998-09-07 Thread Default Debian Reader
Perhaps this isn't the proper list to send kernel problems to but I not sure
where else to post it.  Anyways, I have never been able to properly make a 
kernel...i dloaded the kernel-source kernel-headers .deb packages and then did
unpack them...it created a kernel-sources and headers dir in my /usr/src dir.
So i went into the /usr/src/kernel-header-etc... directory and did the
make config make dep make clean per the Kernel-HOWTO but then when i get to 
the make zImage it fails out after a bit of compiling with this errors.

./xtract /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/vmlinux | gzip -9 | ./piggyback  
piggy.o 
Non-GCC header of 'system'
Compressed size 20.
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/include -traditional -c head.S
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/include -O2 -DSTDC_HEADERS   
-c misc.c -o misc.o
ld -qmagic -Ttext 0xfe0 -o vmlinux head.o misc.o piggy.o
ld: warning: cannot find entry symbol _start; defaulting to 0fe0 
misc.o: In function `fill_inbuf': 
misc.o(.text+0x1ebc): undefined reference to `input_data' 
misc.o(.text+0x1ec1): undefined reference to `input_len' 
misc.o(.text+0x1ed7): undefined reference to `input_data' 
make[2]: *** [vmlinux] Error 1 
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/arch/i386/boot/compressed'
make[1]: *** [compressed/vmlinux] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/arch/i386/boot'
make: *** [zImage] Error 2


I'm not sure if I am going through the wrong procedure to install a new kernel
or if there is an error somewhere else.  Sorry about asking such a general
question to a debian list.   



Intel Pro 10/100 PCI ethernet adapter

1998-09-07 Thread Bruce Jackson
Does this adapter work with Linux 2.0.35?

-- 
Bruce Jackson

Linux:  because reboots are for hardware upgrades!


HELP: More Problems Configuring Email

1998-09-07 Thread DMDP
Okay ...

I have uninstalled SENDMAIL and reinstall SMAIL.

I can send e-mail, however I cannot recieve e-mail.

When I send it, the Return-Path line on the e-mail reads root.

In my SMAIL config file, I have changed the visible name to my full e-mail
address: [EMAIL PROTECTED], and change the hostdomain to miracle.net.  I have
also added a line [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I don't know what else to do.

Thanks,
Denis


Re: Backspace in xterm (again)

1998-09-07 Thread A. M. Varon
On Sun, 6 Sep 1998, Joost Witteveen wrote:

 I upgraded my system yesterday (OK to slink, but it appears the same problem
 is present in hamm), and now my bacspace generates an delete again.
 (in an xterm that is. Emacs (X11) and VC are OK)
 
 I already asked this question once, but I seem to have lost the responce
 I got then. 
 
 Does anybody know what I should do to get my beloved backspace back again
 (yes, I want backspace to delete the char left to the curser, as it does
 in the VC's).

Hi Joost,

I too have this problem few weeks ago.  What I did was:

1. Run xf86config
2. When it asks me for Do you want to use XKB? say yes.
3. Choose a preconfigured keymaps.  I selected then: 1  Standard 101-key,
   US encoding

With this one, no more fiddling with xmodmap or anything, Backspace  the
Delete key simply works.

regards,

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== == Technical Head  Fax-Tel: (034)435-0836
== = ==
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 ==   WebPage : http://andre.lasaltech.com



Re: Intel Pro 10/100 PCI ethernet adapter

1998-09-07 Thread justin honold


On Mon, 7 Sep 1998, Bruce Jackson wrote:

 Does this adapter work with Linux 2.0.35?
 
 -- 
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yes.  running one fine here.


Re: Intel Pro 10/100 PCI ethernet adapter

1998-09-07 Thread Bob Nielsen
It would appear so.

From 'make menuconfig':

  Intel EtherExpressPro PCI 10+/100B/100+ support 
   

On Mon, 7 Sep 1998, Bruce Jackson wrote:

 Does this adapter work with Linux 2.0.35?
 
 -- 
 Bruce Jackson
 
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DM42nh  http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen


Re: HELP: More Problems Configuring Email

1998-09-07 Thread Art Lemasters
Denis, go to the FAQ-O-MATIC at the debian site
(www.debian.org), and find the FAQ about SMAIL configuration
for dynamic accounts (you _do_ have a single-user dynamic
account--right?)

And if you have a dynamic IP account, also change the
visible name to your ISP's domain name (for example,
isp.com) without the @ symbol or the username.  I have
no idea what the extra postmaster line will do to an
smail config.  It appears to be something that belongs in
your /etc/aliases file if at all.

Disregard this reply if you have your own domain with
more than one user account with your ISP.  Hope it helps.
Anyone else...corrections, additions, etc.?

Art


On Sun, Sep 06, 1998 at 11:32:33PM -0400, DMDP wrote:
 Okay ...
 
 I have uninstalled SENDMAIL and reinstall SMAIL.
 
 I can send e-mail, however I cannot recieve e-mail.
 
 When I send it, the Return-Path line on the e-mail reads root.
 
 In my SMAIL config file, I have changed the visible name to my full e-mail
 address: [EMAIL PROTECTED], and change the hostdomain to miracle.net.  I have
 also added a line [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I don't know what else to do.
 
 Thanks,
 Denis
 
 
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Re: g++ Is Fine. I Was Wrong

1998-09-07 Thread Art Lemasters
Yes, g++ works just fine.  Please disregard my previous
messages on this and sorry for the clutter.

Art

On Sun, Sep 06, 1998 at 04:00:04PM -0600, Art Lemasters wrote:
 Thanks to Alan Su and Marcus Brinkman for correcting
 me in regards to g++.  I did not have it installed on this
 system (only had gcc installed).  What can I say, but that
 I am a newbie.  ;-)
 
  g++ is downloading here now, and the status after
 the download will be reported.
 
 Art, who is in the corner wearing a dunce cap for now
 
 Heh, heh,...
 
 
 
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WindowMaker 0.19.1

1998-09-07 Thread XRDLAB
Hello,

I am running hamm. To install the latest windowmaker,
I downloaded the following files for WindowMaker 0.19.1 from 
http://master.debian.org/~mmagallo/packages (as was suggested by the
maintainer):

libproplist0-dev_0.8.1-2.deb
libproplist0_0.8.1-2.deb
libwings-dev_0.19.1-1_i386.deb
libwmaker0-dev_0.19.1-1_i386.deb
libwmaker0_0.19.1-1_i386.deb
libwraster1-dev_0.19.1-1_i386.deb
libwraster1_0.19.1-1_i386.deb
wmaker_0.19.1-1_i386.deb
   
Installation was without errors. But when I do a 'startx', the xserver
crashes with the following error message:

..
/usr/X11R6/bin/WindowMaker: error loading shared libraries
undefined symbol: _Xsetlocale

What else has to be downloaded or installed to make it work? BTW, on
the same machine, I can compile the source (not the deb's) and run
WindowMaker. 

I also installed icewm from slink? Why does it not put an entry in
/etc/X11/window-managers? Is this expected?

Thanks,

sridhar



Sridhar M. A
Department of Physics
University of Mysore, Manasagangotri
Mysore 570 006, INDIA

Tel: +91-821-516133
Fax: +91-821-516133

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CRC- Algorthim Details

1998-09-07 Thread isgindia
Hello ! This is sivakumar!
When I was in search mode for CRC encoding/decoding , I found
your address. Can you please mail me the above details ?

Thank you!
Sivakuamar.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: How to use different domain in Exim

1998-09-07 Thread Georg Bauer
In article
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Chew) wrote:

My domain is foo.com and I want to send mail as [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I use the -f option to set the From: field. 

Uh - -f set's the _sender_, not the From: field (it set's the from in
the envelope). For setting the From:-field, just change the address in
your mail-client.

bye, Georg

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Re: Exim questions

1998-09-07 Thread Georg Bauer
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David
Warnock) wrote:

Thanks, I am looking at the docs now. There are a lot!

Yep. Exim is one of the rare programs, where you don't have to less
documentation, but actually are a bit scared by the sheer mass of it ;-)

But it is written well and very helpfull. I wish I had this problem with
other programs, too.

bye, Georg

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Re: My system too often freezes

1998-09-07 Thread PJ Barbera
May be it is just getting hot ?
Are you using at least the biggest meanest CPU
cooler you
could find ?
I run a Cyrix 166 and 233 and don't have any
problems.

Peter Barbera

Eric Jacoboni wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I've a Cyrix P166+ with 96 EDO Ram on an Asus motherboard
 PI55T2P4C and a Matrox Millenium MGA video card. My system runs under
 Debian Hamm.
 
 I often use Xemacs and Gnus (original deb packages) under X11
 (3.3.2.3-1) and Wmaker (0.19 from slink).
 
 Too often, the system freeze when under X11 and the _only_ solution is
 to press the reset button :-( No way to have a console.
 
 I've read docs about set6x86 and i've removed it from rc.boot to be
 sure the problem doesn't come from a bad configuration of it. In both
 cases (with or without set6x86) the problem arises...
 
 6x86_reg gives now :
 
 =-=-=-=-=-=
 
 6x86 (Classic/L/MX) Register Dump utility
 
 6x86 DIR0: 0x31 2X core/bus clock ratio
  DIR1: 0x16 6x86 Rev. 2.6
 
 Wait a moment...
 Calculated BogoMIPS:130.00
 Kernel BogoMIPS:106.09
 
 6x86 CCR0: 0x2  NC1 set (address region 640Kb-1Mb non-cacheable)
  CCR1: 0x82 NO_LOCK reset
  CCR2: 0x80 SUSP_HLT reset (low power suspend mode disabled)
  CCR3: 0x10
  CCR4: 0x17 DTE cache enabled, no I/O recovery time
  CCR5: 0x21 slow LOOP disabled, allocate cache lines on write misses
 
 6x86 Address Region Register dump:
   ARR0: address = 0xA , size = 128 KB
 RCR = 0x9 : not cached, write gathering
   ARR1: address = 0xC , size = 256 KB
 RCR = 0x1 : not cached
   ARR2: disabled
   ARR3: address = 0xA8000 , size = 32 KB
 RCR = 0x9 : not cached, write gathering
   ARR4: disabled
   ARR5: disabled
   ARR6: address = 0x600 , size = 32 MB
 RCR = 0x1 : not cached
   ARR7: address = 0x0 , size = 128 MB
 RCR = 0xB : cached, weak write ordering, write gathering
 =-=-=-=-=
 
 I've read the doc about the Cyrix 'coma' bug and i've try to use
 set6x86 to set the NO_LOCK bit : no change...
 
 (BTW : the doc speaks about a little source code to detect this coma
 bug but i've found nowhere...)
 
 I've read the various log files : nothing... Is there a way to have a
 trace of the crash  (a core dump or something like that ?).
 
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Re: X Windows

1998-09-07 Thread Michael Beattie
On Sat, 5 Sep 1998, Ken Westerback wrote:

 1. ... don't know (I'm still using dselect, haven't tried apt)

Apt is good, and it is (apparently) the future to package installation,
and It will (as I understand) have an X interface.. but it is still in the
pipeline.

 3. ... haven't played with it

ditto
 
 6. ... Still working on this myself

install the 'diald' package.

  1.  Is there a different way to install packages while in X or should I
  still be using dselect??
  3.  I want to install WINEare there any steps that I need to take 
  first???
  6.  Can I set ppp to start automatically when I need it??


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Re: Your friends...... whatever.

1998-09-07 Thread Michael Beattie
On Sat, 5 Sep 1998, Igor Grobman wrote:

 Some time around  Thu, 03 Sep 1998 14:37:55 +1200, 
  Michael Beattie wrote:
   
   Isnt that a valid reason to filter out @hotmail.com, @lycos.com etc?
 
 I am the debian anti-spam person, and I don't like to blanketly filter on 
 from: addresses.  Hotmail or lycos do not have anything to do with spammers.  
 Most of the time the spammers set their from address to an invalid hotmail 
 address just because that's the service they know.  However, there are more 
 than a few people who use such email services legitimately.  I would rather 
 block the real providers of the spammers (those that give them access and/or 
 relay for them) rather than block on the from: address which does not mean 
 much with spammers.

True.. I stand corrected. I just got too much spam that Thursday :)

 Having said that there is one exception to this rule ;-) and that is aol.com 
 . 
 It has been established that 99.9% of the mail with @aol.com from field has 
 nothing to do with any topics relevant to debian lists.  Right now, all 
 aol.com posts come to me, and I forward them to the list if necessary (I 
 haven't had to do any of that lately).

Heh... its funny really.. AOL has quite strict rules does it not? Correct
me if I am wrong.

   I dont know about anyone else... But that sort of [EMAIL PROTECTED] really 
 bugs me.
   Unfortunately, my spam filter wont catch stuff sent to the list.. :(
  
 
 I am trying my best to make sure debian lists do not get spam.

You do a pretty good job... from what I have seen. I just meant the odd
one or two like the one I referred to here.

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Re: Virtual Poohsticks

1998-09-07 Thread Michael Beattie
On Sun, 6 Sep 1998, Thomas Adams wrote:

 On Mon, Aug 24, 1998 at 05:17:04PM +0100, M.C. Vernon wrote:
 
  Does anyone know of any virtual poohsticks software, or is anyone
  working on some at the moment?
 
 What is a virtual poohstick??

I might be way off the beaten path here, but isnt it a game that winnie
the pooh plays with eeyore (sp?) or tigger? They drop sticks on one side
of a bridge and run to the other, the persons stick which gets to the
other side of the bridge (via the stream/river current) wins? Is that
right?

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Re: running root X programs

1998-09-07 Thread M.C. Vernon

 
 I know this has been addressed before, I've tried searching the archives
 for it, but without success. 
 
 How do you run an X program as root whilst still in a user X session? 
 
 

Use either fakeroot, or run su in an xterm, and then launch apps in the
background:

su
password
/usr/sbin/some_nifty_root_thing 

HTH,

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Re: My system too often freezes

1998-09-07 Thread Michael Beattie
On Sun, 6 Sep 1998, PJ Barbera wrote:

 May be it is just getting hot ?
 Are you using at least the biggest meanest CPU
 cooler you
 could find ?
 I run a Cyrix 166 and 233 and don't have any
 problems.

I use set6x86, and it has caused no problems for me. Like Peter said, make
sure you have got the 'biggest meanest CPU cooler you can find'. These
Cyrix babies get hot!

  I've read the doc about the Cyrix 'coma' bug and i've try to use
  set6x86 to set the NO_LOCK bit : no change...

I think the coma bug would only be used in a form of attack by a user, It
would be unlikely to be in the programs you mention

  (BTW : the doc speaks about a little source code to detect this coma
  bug but i've found nowhere...)

I downloaded the set6x86 source, and it _is_ in there, but it is more of a
demo of what it can do rather than a detection program.. It is full of
warnings: UNMOUNT YOUR PARTITIONS __BEFORE__ RUNNING THIS PROGRAM

  I've read the various log files : nothing... Is there a way to have a
  trace of the crash  (a core dump or something like that ?).
  
Pass.. a core dump leaves behind a 'core' file. (usually) check with
`updatedb;locate core` to find any left behind.. but not /dev/core..


The set6x86 source has a kernel source patch, and this is applied to all
but the head.S file in the debian 2.0.34 kernel source package. I have
attached my copy of this, It is not really necessary, It only correctly
identifies the CPU in /proc/cpuinfo.

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/*
 *  linux/arch/i386/head.S
 *
 *  Copyright (C) 1991, 1992  Linus Torvalds
 */

/*
 *  head.S contains the 32-bit startup code.
 */

.text
#include linux/tasks.h
#include linux/linkage.h
#include asm/segment.h
#include linux/config.h

#define CL_MAGIC_ADDR   0x90020
#define CL_MAGIC0xA33F
#define CL_BASE_ADDR0x9
#define CL_OFFSET   0x90022

/*
 * swapper_pg_dir is the main page directory, address 0x1000 (or at
 * address 0x00101000 for a compressed boot).
 */
ENTRY(stext)
ENTRY(_stext)
startup_32:
cld
movl $(KERNEL_DS),%eax
mov %ax,%ds
mov %ax,%es
mov %ax,%fs
mov %ax,%gs
#ifdef __SMP__
orw  %bx,%bx
jz  1f  /* Initial CPU cleans BSS */
/*
 *  Set up the stack
 */
mov %ax,%ss
xorl %eax,%eax
movw %cx, %ax
movl %eax,%esp
pushl $0
popfl
jmp checkCPUtype
1:
lss stack_start,%esp
#endif __SMP__
/*
 * Clear BSS first so that there are no surprises...
 */
xorl %eax,%eax
movl $ SYMBOL_NAME(_edata),%edi
movl $ SYMBOL_NAME(_end),%ecx
subl %edi,%ecx
cld
rep
stosb
/*
 * start system 32-bit setup. We need to re-do some of the things done
 * in 16-bit mode for the real operations.
 */
call setup_idt
xorl %eax,%eax
1:  incl %eax   # check that A20 really IS enabled
movl %eax,0x00  # loop forever if it isn't
cmpl %eax,0x10
je 1b
/*
 * Initialize eflags.  Some BIOS's leave bits like NT set.  This would
 * confuse the debugger if this code is traced.
 * XXX - best to initialize before switching to protected mode.
 */
pushl $0
popfl
/*
 * Copy bootup parameters out of the way. First 2kB of
 * _empty_zero_page is for boot parameters, second 2kB
 * is for the command line.
 */
movl $0x9,%esi
movl $ SYMBOL_NAME(empty_zero_page),%edi
movl $512,%ecx
cld
rep
movsl
xorl %eax,%eax
movl $512,%ecx
rep
stosl
cmpw $(CL_MAGIC),CL_MAGIC_ADDR
jne 1f
movl $ SYMBOL_NAME(empty_zero_page)+2048,%edi
movzwl CL_OFFSET,%esi
addl $(CL_BASE_ADDR),%esi
movl $2048,%ecx
rep
movsb
1:
#ifdef __SMP__
checkCPUtype:
#endif

/* check if it is 486 or 386. */
/*
 * XXX - this does a lot of unnecessary setup.  Alignment checks don't
 * apply at our cpl of 0 and the stack ought to be aligned already, and
 * we don't need to preserve eflags.
 */
/*
 * A Cyrix/IBM 6x86(L) preserves flags after dividing 5 by 2
 * (and it _must_ be 5 divided by 2) while other CPUs change
 * them in undefined ways. We need to know this since we may
 * need to enable the CPUID instruction at least.
 */
xor %ax,%ax
sahf
movb $5,%ax
movb $2,%bx
div %bl
lahf
cmpb $2,%ah
jne ncyrix

/*
 * It behaves like a Cyrix/IBM 6x86(L) so put Cyrix in the 
 

Re: Whats the best Dist?

1998-09-07 Thread M.C. Vernon

 Hi all,
 I am currently wondering what the best distribution of linux to get next
 would be, as i am a big fan of S.u.S.E. , RH and Debian
 
 I am looking for most advanced, and biggest.

Hmm - I'm sure you'll get lots of balence opinions round here ;)

I think Debian is the best, because (essay title for homework?):

.deb packaging system is great
the FS is logical and consistant - files are where you expect them to be
large number of packages available from debian mirrors - 
easy to upgrade - all new packages in the same place
all .debs on the mirrors are made by `certified' developers (=
nasty security holes are v. unlikely)

anyone can contribute to debian - it is a non-commercial community effort.

HTH,

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Re: debian 2.0 stable?

1998-09-07 Thread M.C. Vernon

   I've just read some postings complaining that their systems crash too
 often with debian 2.0
 
   Is debian 2.0 stable or should I stick with 1.3? The machine serves
 e-mail and web services for about 300 people...

pick:~$ w
  8:43am  up 79 days, 12:09,  1 user,  load average: 0.07, 0.02, 0.00
USER TTY  FROM  LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU  WHAT
mcv21ttyp0194.176.222.658:43am  1.00s  1.07s  0.29s  w

see the website, but I have about 10 users (but this is the vac ATM, so
load is low).

I think that's pretty stable ;)

hth,

Matthew

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quota

1998-09-07 Thread Giuseppe Sacco
Hi all,
I have a problem related to quota: I have just compiled the kernel for quota
support and changed the fstab in that way:

1. /dev/hda4 / ext2 defaults,usrquota,grpquota,errors=remount-ro  0 1
2. /dev/hda4 / ext2 defaults,usrquota,errors=remount-ro  0 1

when I used the number 1. I found a file /remount-ro that is used for the
quota. Then I changed to number 2. but still that file is used. Why? Looking
throught the documentation I saw that the file name should be something like
quota.user and quota.group.

Bye,
Giuseppe


Installation problems

1998-09-07 Thread Richard Heller
Hi,

I'm having a couple of problems installing Linux on my machine.  The problems 
are revolving around two pieces of hardware, my ethernet card and my video card.

My ethernet card is a 3com 3c905TX card.  During the boot messages, the card 
appears to be correctly detected, however I don't seem to be able to 
communicate with any other machines.  Every so often, I also get the following 
messages on my screen:

eth0: transmit timed out, tx_status ff status fff.
eth0: Transmitter encountered 16 collisions -- network cable problem?
eth0: Interrupt posted but not delivered -- IRQ blocked by another device?
eth0: Host error, FIFO dagnostic register .
(That line repeats a bunch of times)
eth0: Too much work in interrupt, status .  Temporarily disabling functions 
(7800)

The card works fine under Win98.  Any suggestions?

My video card is a Real 3D StarFighter AGP card with 8M of RAM.  There doesn't 
seem to be any support for this card and when I try to use the SVGA server, it 
detects the amount of RAM wrong.  It thinks I have 64k instead of 8M and 
therefore don't have enough memory to start the server.  At best I can run X 
Windows with 320x200 resolution, which is something I wouldn't wish on my worst 
enemy.  Is there an X server out there that works with this card?

I was so looking forward to installing Linux.  It kind of sucks that I've hit 
these road blocks.

Thanks,
Rich


Re: chmod help

1998-09-07 Thread Ole J. Tetlie
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|
| How can i change the perms on a directory so that a file that is copied into 
that directory is automatically owned by another user and group?

You can't. Two suggestions:

* Use chown -R to change ownership of all files i a directory
* Write a shell function (cp) that just copies normally but copies
  and changes owner and group if the destination is that directory
  (if you're really desperate ;-)

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TEXINPUTS ?

1998-09-07 Thread Remo Badii
Dear Debian TeX/LaTeX users,

I have just installed the revtex library under $HOME/tex/sty/revtex, as
in my previous Linux system (2 years old, S.u.S.E. 4.2), under Debian
2.0. Although I have set the variable TEXINPUTS to include
$HOME/tex/sty and $HOME/tex/sty/revtex, the system finds a file
/usr/lib/texmf/tex/latex/misc/revtex.cls and stops within it at the line
\input{revtex.sty}, saying that it does not find it (correct, since it
is not in that directory): why doesn't latex find my revtex directory
first? I did not have this problem with the old Linux system (teTeX, as
in Debian).
By the way, who has put that revtex.cls file in ./misc? 
Isn't the user supposed to have a revtex file at all only if he installs
revtex? There is no revtex in the Debian distribution.
Thank you for your help.

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Re: chmod help

1998-09-07 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
 
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 | How can i change the perms on a directory so that a file that is copied 
 into that directory is automatically owned by another user and group?
 
 You can't. Two suggestions:
 
 * Use chown -R to change ownership of all files i a directory
 * Write a shell function (cp) that just copies normally but copies
   and changes owner and group if the destination is that directory
   (if you're really desperate ;-)

Don't know if anyone mentioned it already, but you can actually do this
for the group ownership.  If you do a `chmod g+s dir', new files
created in this directory will get the same group.

HTH,
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Audio

1998-09-07 Thread Michael Beattie

I was going through my .wav file collection, and after a while (250 odd
playings) bplay died reporting there was no room left on device. I tried
starting quake after this... segfault, like I predicted. DMA allocation
failed. I am nowhere near a sound guru, but this does not seem right, I
mean quake plays many sounds, a lot together, or in succession. More than
250 anyway. Is this a problem with bplay? If not, how can it be cured?
Playing mp3's still worked, and some other things did not. Has anybody
stumbled across this before? I am sorry, I can't supply more information,
I was silly and rebooted to fix the problem, hence losing the actual error
messages.

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Re: Virtual Poohsticks

1998-09-07 Thread M.C. Vernon
On Mon, 7 Sep 1998, Michael Beattie wrote:

 On Sun, 6 Sep 1998, Thomas Adams wrote:
 
  On Mon, Aug 24, 1998 at 05:17:04PM +0100, M.C. Vernon wrote:
  
 Does anyone know of any virtual poohsticks software, or is anyone
   working on some at the moment?
  
  What is a virtual poohstick??
 
 I might be way off the beaten path here, but isnt it a game that winnie
 the pooh plays with eeyore (sp?) or tigger? They drop sticks on one side
 of a bridge and run to the other, the persons stick which gets to the
 other side of the bridge (via the stream/river current) wins? Is that
 right?

Indeed ;) the precise mechanism for the stream is still open to debate,
but it looks like being a bit of SMTP hackery ;)


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psfixbb in Debian?

1998-09-07 Thread Wojciech Zabolotny
Hi
Is there psfixbb (the program for fixing of bounding box in postscript)
available in any debian package?

TIA
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Re: Virtual Poohsticks

1998-09-07 Thread Ole J. Tetlie
*-Michael Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|
| On Sun, 6 Sep 1998, Thomas Adams wrote:
| 
|  On Mon, Aug 24, 1998 at 05:17:04PM +0100, M.C. Vernon wrote:
|  
| Does anyone know of any virtual poohsticks software, or is anyone
|   working on some at the moment?
|  
|  What is a virtual poohstick??
| 
| I might be way off the beaten path here, but isnt it a game that winnie
| the pooh plays with eeyore (sp?) or tigger? They drop sticks on one side
| of a bridge and run to the other, the persons stick which gets to the
| other side of the bridge (via the stream/river current) wins? Is that
| right?

Almost. Actually, you are right in a way when you say that they
play _with_ Eeyore.

Pooh was playing with Piglet, Rabbit and Roo when suddenly a big, grey
stick came floating. Upon closer inspection they found out that it was
Eeyore that came down the stream. He had been bounced into by a very
bouncy Tigger.

The story is called In which Pooh invents a New Game and Eeyore joins in
and it's highly amusing.

Sorry for being slightly off-topic :-)

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Re: Virtual Poohsticks

1998-09-07 Thread M.C. Vernon
On 7 Sep 1998, Ole J. Tetlie wrote:

 *-Michael Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |
 | On Sun, 6 Sep 1998, Thomas Adams wrote:
 | 
 |  On Mon, Aug 24, 1998 at 05:17:04PM +0100, M.C. Vernon wrote:
 |  
 |   Does anyone know of any virtual poohsticks software, or is 
 anyone
 |   working on some at the moment?
 |  
 |  What is a virtual poohstick??
 | 
 | I might be way off the beaten path here, but isnt it a game that winnie
 | the pooh plays with eeyore (sp?) or tigger? They drop sticks on one side
 | of a bridge and run to the other, the persons stick which gets to the
 | other side of the bridge (via the stream/river current) wins? Is that
 | right?
 
 Almost. Actually, you are right in a way when you say that they
 play _with_ Eeyore.
 
 Pooh was playing with Piglet, Rabbit and Roo when suddenly a big, grey
 stick came floating. Upon closer inspection they found out that it was
 Eeyore that came down the stream. He had been bounced into by a very
 bouncy Tigger.

Do I not recall pooh tripping and dropping a pinecone into the stream?

Matthew
(who is NOT a member of Pembroke College Pooh Society)

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Re: Fonts for Gimp

1998-09-07 Thread Frank Barknecht
Chris Hoover hat gesagt: // Chris Hoover wrote:

 Thanks for the help. I went and installed both of these font packages,
 but it did not seem to solve the problem. I still seem to be missing
 the fonts that gimp wants to run many of the xtns. Especially the ones
 under script-fu. Is anyone else having the same problem? Are there any
 other font packages that I need to install?

This is strange. I have only installed this font-packages and all the
scripts run fine. Maybe you have to make sure, that your FontPath setting
in /etc/X11/XF86Config is also pointig to the free- and sharefont
directories. 
My section looks like this:

/etc/X11/XF86Config:
--- snip ---
Section Files
   RgbPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
   FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled
   FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled
   FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled
   FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
   FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
   FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc
   FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
   FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi
   FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/freefont
   FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/sharefont
EndSection
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Re: X App Launcher?

1998-09-07 Thread Frank Barknecht
David Warnock hat gesagt: // David Warnock wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I am using XFree86 (the suse one that supports Permedia 2 cards). I am
 currently using icewm as my window manager. 
 
 I am looking for an application launcher that will sit on my desktop and
 provide direct access to applications. I guess I could change the menu
 but I would prefer to lick on icons. 
 
 I would prefer something that does not tie me into a single window
 manager but it would also be nice if I could specify which virtual
 window items load in.
 
 It would be nice if it had a .deb package and was quick to setup.
 
 What are your suggestions?

Apart from the BIG solutions aka Gnome and KDE and the small ones built
into your favourite window manager (FVWMButtons in fvwm(2/95), WARP in
Afterstep), you could take a look at tkdesk, which as far as I remember, has
a configurable button bar and is not tied to a window manager/Desktop
Environment.
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Apple diskettes

1998-09-07 Thread Blazej Sawionek
How can I read Apple McIntosh dikettes on a Debian system?

Blazej


Re: Segmentation faults

1998-09-07 Thread Johann Spies
On Mon, 7 Sep 1998, C.J.LAWSON wrote:

 You might want to chech if you have enough memory (if not you may want to
 do something about your swap space). Run free when you try and start one
 of those 'seggy' programs
 

After your message I changed taper's memory configuration and at first it
seemed to have solved the problem.  Now I do no longer get a segmentation
fault message...  I get a stack overflow message.

I do not have time now but I will try out slink's version of taper to see
if there is any improvement.  In the mean time my backups are useless...

Johann

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Re: Apple diskettes

1998-09-07 Thread Nils Rennebarth
On Mon, Sep 07, 1998 at 01:09:47PM +0200, Blazej Sawionek wrote:
 How can I read Apple McIntosh dikettes on a Debian system?
Get the hfsutils package. In additon you may look at macutils too.

Nils

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| Lthis is the special easter release of linux, more mundanely called 1.3.84 |
| WUmh, oh. What do you mean by special easter release?. Will it quit  |
* Wworking today and rise on easter? *


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RE: WindowMaker 0.19.1

1998-09-07 Thread Paulo J. da Silva e Silva
XRDLAB writes:
  Hello,
  
  I am running hamm. To install the latest windowmaker,
  I downloaded the following files for WindowMaker 0.19.1 from 
  http://master.debian.org/~mmagallo/packages (as was suggested by the
  maintainer):
  
  libproplist0-dev_0.8.1-2.deb
  libproplist0_0.8.1-2.deb
  libwings-dev_0.19.1-1_i386.deb
  libwmaker0-dev_0.19.1-1_i386.deb
  libwmaker0_0.19.1-1_i386.deb
  libwraster1-dev_0.19.1-1_i386.deb
  libwraster1_0.19.1-1_i386.deb
  wmaker_0.19.1-1_i386.deb
 
  Installation was without errors. But when I do a 'startx', the xserver
  crashes with the following error message:
  
  ..
  /usr/X11R6/bin/WindowMaker: error loading shared libraries
  undefined symbol: _Xsetlocale


Hi,

I4ve posted a question about this on Saturday. You can search the wmaker 0.19
thread.

First, I recommend you to download the Debian version of wmaker 0.19.1 (it is
in unstable section (slink) in a Debian mirror site). Better than compiling
things yourself and no fear of putting things in the wrong place.

After that you4ll still have the _Xsetlocale problem. To solve it I was asked
to try two things:

   1) As root run ldconfig.

   2) Upgrade to xlib6g 3.3.2.3-1 (it4s in hamm).

The first thing did not solve my problem (as the maintainer expected),  but
the upgrade of xlib6g made it run smoothly.

Good Luck.

Paulo.



















wmaker

1998-09-07 Thread Rick Knebel
Hi,
Is there anyway in wmaker 0.91-1 to put something like slrn in the dock and
assign an icon like news.xpm without changing every other xterm icon to this
icon?

Thanks Aot


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Problems w/bash upgrading to libreadlineg

1998-09-07 Thread Randy Marianne Saint
Howdy,
I think I've really got my Debian Linux system messed up now.  I was trying
to upgrade to: bash_2.01.1-3.1.deb, which requires libreadlineg2 (2.1-10.1).
Well, dselect would always fail with an internal error - filename not
found...chunk 16 message.
So, I decided to try to install with dpkg command line.  It basically said I
couldn't upgrade bash because the current bash used libreadline2 and that
conflicted with libreadlineg2.  And it wouldn't upgrade to libreadlineg2
because it said that the conflict would break libreadline2 and thus bash.
Aargh!

So here's where I really hosed up my system.  I forced the upgrade to
libreadlineg2 and tried to force the bash upgrade.  The libreadlineg2
upgrade worked, but has now broken the current bash, so no scripts
(including the dpkg subprocess pre-installation script) will run, and thus
the new bash will not install.  Help!

How can I install the new bash so I will have an operational system?

Perhaps if someone can send me the new bash executable, I can install that
by hand.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Randy Saint
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: HELP: More Problems Configuring Email

1998-09-07 Thread Ralph Winslow
When Art Lemasters wrote, I replied:
 
 Denis, go to the FAQ-O-MATIC at the debian site
 (www.debian.org), and find the FAQ about SMAIL configuration
 for dynamic accounts (you _do_ have a single-user dynamic
 account--right?)

I have that, but chose sendmail rather than smail, so the FAQ-O-MATIC
wasn't much help.  My current state is:

when I rune fetchmail, it responds:
fetchmail: 36 messages at mail.my_isp.net
reading message 1 of 36 (1732 bytes) .fetchmail: SMTP connect to
localhost failed: connection refused
fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from mail.my_isp.net

I've attached my .fetchmailrc

(or a reasonable facsimile thereto)
 
 And if you have a dynamic IP account, also change the
 visible name to your ISP's domain name (for example,
 isp.com) without the @ symbol or the username.  I have
 no idea what the extra postmaster line will do to an
 smail config.  It appears to be something that belongs in
 your /etc/aliases file if at all.
 
 Disregard this reply if you have your own domain with
 more than one user account with your ISP.  Hope it helps.
 Anyone else...corrections, additions, etc.?
 
 Art
 
 On Sun, Sep 06, 1998 at 11:32:33PM -0400, DMDP wrote:
  Okay ...
 
  I have uninstalled SENDMAIL and reinstall SMAIL.
 
  I can send e-mail, however I cannot recieve e-mail.
 
  When I send it, the Return-Path line on the e-mail reads root.
 
  In my SMAIL config file, I have changed the visible name to my full e-mail
  address: [EMAIL PROTECTED], and change the hostdomain to miracle.net.  I 
  have
  also added a line [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  I don't know what else to do.
 
  Thanks,
  Denis
 
 
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Re: Problems w/bash upgrading to libreadlineg

1998-09-07 Thread Frank Barknecht
Randy  Marianne Saint hat gesagt: // Randy  Marianne Saint wrote:

 Howdy, I think I've really got my Debian Linux system messed up now.

Yes, you REALLY did :(

 I was trying to upgrade to: bash_2.01.1-3.1.deb, which requires
 libreadlineg2 (2.1-10.1). Well, dselect would always fail with an
 internal error - filename not found...chunk 16 message. So, I
 decided to try to install with dpkg command line. It basically said
 I couldn't upgrade bash because the current bash used libreadline2
 and that conflicted with libreadlineg2. And it wouldn't upgrade
 to libreadlineg2 because it said that the conflict would break
 libreadline2 and thus bash. Aargh!

I read this as if you tried to upgrade to the libc6/glibc-bash and
therefore to a libc6 system without following the critical upgrade
path as described in the Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO (Look at
www.debian.org for pointers to this.)

 So here's where I really hosed up my system. I forced the upgrade to
 libreadlineg2 and tried to force the bash upgrade.

NEVER force if you're not 1000 % sure what you're messing up.

 The libreadlineg2 upgrade worked, but has now broken the current
 bash, so no scripts (including the dpkg subprocess pre-installation
 script) will run, and thus the new bash will not install. Help!
 How can I install the new bash so I will have an operational system?

This will be complicated, sorry to say. I would maybe try to somehow
get the old bash and the old readlinelibs working again. Difficult,
because you don't have a working bash and dpkg, I know. Maybe you can
boot from a bootdisk and try to replace the files by hand (*.deb files
are just archives packed with ar. Inside you will find three files: 
* debian-binary 
* control.tar.gz 
* data.tar.gz 
In data.tar.gz there are the needed binaries.

BUT: To be honest, I think it is time to backup your home- and
etc-directories and do a fresh reinstall, prefarably from a new-bought
Debian-2.0-CD.

 Perhaps if someone can send me the new bash executable, I can install
 that by hand.

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Re: X Background

1998-09-07 Thread D. W. Wieboldt
On Sat, Sep 05, 1998 at 12:45:43PM +, David Warnock wrote:
 I am using XFree86 with icewm. The desktop background is a distracting
 pattern. So far I clear this (which has sort of difraction patterns at
 high res) by using the fishtank application. I am quite a boring person
 and wondered how to clear it to a single colour.
 
 Thanks
 
 Dave

xsetroot -solid [color]   is just fine for one color.  For a little
less boring background try floatbg -- it sets a solid color and changes
it every so often.  I exec mine on the way into icewm -- in ~/.xinitrc:

#!/bin/sh
exec icewm 
floatbg 
tkdesk 

Ciao!  davew
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Re: mutt error

1998-09-07 Thread jdassen
On Sat, Sep 05, 1998 at 10:54:54PM +1200, Andrew wrote:
 when I try to run mutt I get: 
 Need to be running setgid 0 to lock mailbox!

- ensure the mutt binary has the proper permissions: -rwxr-sr-x and
  ownership: user root, group mail
- ensure /var/spool/mail has the proper permissions: drwxrwsr-t and
  ownership: user root, group mail.

HTH,
Ray
-- 
ART  A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old. 
I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking 
his name in vain. 
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Re: wmaker

1998-09-07 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sat, Sep 05, 1998 at 11:22:13AM -0500, Michael Montz wrote:
 Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:
 
  (Before somebody asks: I *am* uploading -- or trying to -- 0.19.1-1 right
  now)
 
 Has this happen yet?

I just checked. wmaker has been installed on slink and it's available on the
incoming directory of ftp.windowmaker.org


Marcelo


RE: hostname lookup failure

1998-09-07 Thread Hank Fay
Perplexing it is. s  My hosts also has a localhost (set to local machine,
127.0.0.1) -- should that be in there?

Now, it happens I have a domain name I can use to put in here, but what
would one do if one did not have one?

Thanks,

Hank

-Original Message-
From: Lindsay Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 1998 9:17 PM
To: Hank Fay
Subject: Re: hostname lookup failure



I'm no expert, but I would check that /etc/hostname has the right name and
that /etc/hosts shows something like
www.xxx.yyy.zzz myhost.something.orgmyhost

Then try

  hostname
  hostname -f

This problem can be really perplexing at times.

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voice +61 8 9316 248632.0125S 115.8445Evk6lj  Debian Linux
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On Sun, 6 Sep 1998, Hank Fay wrote:

 I have a Hamm box set up with a cable modem driver  for the SB-1000
 (courtesy of Franco Venture, [EMAIL PROTECTED]), and so far am
connecting
 to the ISP just fine.  However, being networking challenged, I am getting
 Host name lookup failure -- but of course it's a user setup failure
 also. g

 I have the nameserver in resolve.conf set to the IP of the ISP's
nameserver.
 I am not running a local DNS.

 Any directions to start looking would very much appreciated -- so near yet
 so... s

 Hank



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X is hosed

1998-09-07 Thread Alan Eugene Davis

I stuck my neck out and upgraded X11 to the packages in slink.  Just
previous to that I had upgraded wmaker to 0.19.1-1, also new on slink.
At first, wmaker crashed the session.  I purged wmaker.  

Now, for some reason I cannot fathom, xdm starts but when a user logs
in, the session crashes.  Root can log in ok.  Root can use startx,
but a user cannot.  

Looks like permissions.  Permissions of WHAT?

I now downgraded back to the X11 packages in hamm, but the same
problem persists.  

I still don't understand what wmaker did.  I upgraded the libraries,
and installed wmaker libs too.  That's one of the last things I did
before this happened.

Thank you for any help.

Alan Davis


Re: X is hosed

1998-09-07 Thread M.C. Vernon

 
 I stuck my neck out and upgraded X11 to the packages in slink.  Just
 previous to that I had upgraded wmaker to 0.19.1-1, also new on slink.
 At first, wmaker crashed the session.  I purged wmaker.  
 
 Now, for some reason I cannot fathom, xdm starts but when a user logs
 in, the session crashes.  Root can log in ok.  Root can use startx,
 but a user cannot.  
 
 Looks like permissions.  Permissions of WHAT?
 
 I now downgraded back to the X11 packages in hamm, but the same
 problem persists.  
 
 I still don't understand what wmaker did.  I upgraded the libraries,
 and installed wmaker libs too.  That's one of the last things I did
 before this happened.

I'm not quite sure about this, but:

a) do you now have no wmaker at all?
b) is your x config such that it tries to launch wmaker

If both of these are yes, then that is the problem.

Install wmaker again (hamm version), or change ? /etc/Xsession or
.xsession  to fire up something else


HTH,

Matthew


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proxy server blues

1998-09-07 Thread Hank Fay
John,

thanks very much.  I assume you mean in /etc/init.d/network ?  I rem'd 
the
last line, and I can now ping from that machine, but not from any of the
others who have this set as gateway.  Nor FTP, nor HTTP (the other machines
are set with this machine as gateway, and the ISP's DNS servers as their DNS
servers).

Here's what I have in my network script now -- any comments appreciated.

#! /bin/sh
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
route add -net 127.0.0.0
IPADDR=192.168.1.3
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
NETWORK=192.168.1.0
BROADCAST=192.168.1.255
GATEWAY=192.168.1.3
ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
route add -net ${NETWORK}
# [ ${GATEWAY} ]  route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1


Hank


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 1998 7:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ping: sendto: Operation not permitted


 I'm using local IP, because this is to be an IPMasq machine, acting as
 proxy for the rest of the network.  In this case, should I have
 noipdefault?

Yes.  The IPMasq is irrelevant.  Make sure that you don't have a default
route set up to your local network.  You don't need it, and it will stop
pppd from making the ppp link a default route.

 Sep  6 15:55:12 firewall pppd[4898]: not replacing existing default route
to
 eth0 [0.0.0.0]

Here is your problem.  You should not have a default route set up to your
local network.  You don't need it, and it will stop pppd from making the
ppp link a default route.
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Re: xlogmaster

1998-09-07 Thread Arjan Scherpenisse
Ralph Winslow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 It's rumored that this has been packaged for debian, but I don't see
 it when I run dselect (I'm using apt, stable (hamm), main - contrib -
 non-free - nonUS).  Can anyone provide a clue?  TIA

I believe it is in unstable distribution (slink)

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ne2k_pci and other Modules question

1998-09-07 Thread Alex Kwan
My Ethernet Card was NE-2000PCI (Realtek RTL-8029)

(1) When I install Hamm on my system, The Installation 
  program asked me append command on the Command
  Line Agruments of ne2k_pci module, If I let it empty, 
  this module installation will failed, also I can't find any
  interface of the ethernet card, How to completed it?

(2) some modules of the other sections (like ipv4) also needed the
  Command Line Agruments or parameters, where will I 
  found the informations (The Modules HOW-TO is out dated)?

Thanks
Alex   


Re: Your friends...... whatever.

1998-09-07 Thread Igor Grobman
Some time around  Mon, 07 Sep 1998 18:44:35 +1200, 
 Michael Beattie wrote:
  On Sat, 5 Sep 1998, Igor Grobman wrote:
  
   Having said that there is one exception to this rule ;-) and that is aol.c
  om . 
   It has been established that 99.9% of the mail with @aol.com from field ha
  s 
   nothing to do with any topics relevant to debian lists.  Right now, all 
   aol.com posts come to me, and I forward them to the list if necessary (I 
   haven't had to do any of that lately).
  
  Heh... its funny really.. AOL has quite strict rules does it not? Correct
  me if I am wrong.


Yes they do, but they do have a huge customer base and it's very easy to sign 
on even for a newbie, plus their clueful/clueless ratio is probably the lowest 
in the industry ;-).  That means that the spammers have no problem signing on 
with a new account as soon as they are kicked off, and that the chances of a 
relevant post to debian lists are very low.  I haven't seen one in about 2 
months.


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Re: Installation problems

1998-09-07 Thread Igor Grobman
Some time around  Mon, 07 Sep 1998 03:19:22 EDT, 
 Richard Heller wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I'm having a couple of problems installing Linux on my machine.  The problem
  s are revolving around two pieces of hardware, my ethernet card and my video
   card.
  
  My ethernet card is a 3com 3c905TX card.  During the boot messages, the card
   appears to be correctly detected, however I don't seem to be able to commun
  icate with any other machines.  Every so often, I also get the following mes
  sages on my screen:
  
  eth0: transmit timed out, tx_status ff status fff.
  eth0: Transmitter encountered 16 collisions -- network cable problem?
  eth0: Interrupt posted but not delivered -- IRQ blocked by another device?
  eth0: Host error, FIFO dagnostic register .
  (That line repeats a bunch of times)
  eth0: Too much work in interrupt, status .  Temporarily disabling functi
  ons (7800)


This sounds like you have an irq conflict.  Make sure your card is detected at 
the correct irq, and that the irq isn't being used by something else.  If it's 
the former, read ethernet HOWTO on how to pass the settings to the kernel on 
boot.  If it's the latter, reconfigure your card for another irq.


  
  The card works fine under Win98.  Any suggestions?

Win98 is not as strict with IRQ conflicts and may be working around the 
problem.

  
  My video card is a Real 3D StarFighter AGP card with 8M of RAM.  There doesn
  't seem to be any support for this card and when I try to use the SVGA serve
  r, it detects the amount of RAM wrong.  It thinks I have 64k instead of 8M a
  nd therefore don't have enough memory to start the server.  At best I can ru
  n X Windows with 320x200 resolution, which is something I wouldn't wish on m
  y worst enemy.  Is there an X server out there that works with this card?

What chipset does it have?  Maybe it needs a special server (as opposed to 
SVGA) designed for its chipset.  Figure out what chipset your card has, and 
search the net for what the status of the driver development is.

  
  I was so looking forward to installing Linux.  It kind of sucks that I've hi
  t these road blocks.

They are not that bad.  Everyone has some kind of problem first time they 
install.

  
  Thanks,
  Rich
  
  
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window sizing

1998-09-07 Thread Kathy Miles
Hi, hopeing someone can help me. I'm adjusting to using debian linux and
still finding things a challenge. I'm running X and have been using
various windows managers like fvwm95, icewm, and window maker. The problem
is my display is 640 x 480 (due to visual impairment on my part) and I
can't get windows to come up the right size when I start X. I always have
to resize which gets old after awhile! Please help!


Kathy A Miles
For an out of this world experience, visit earthspace.net!


can smail change the Envelope?

1998-09-07 Thread Thomas Adams
I usually write email on the Debian box here, for which I installed UUCP and 
SMail, which works fine. I can change the From: line to whatever I like and my 
provider still accepts and delivers the emails. So far, so good.

But there is a Mac here which communicates with my Linux box via Ethernet and 
which I would also like to send mail from. I installed Internet Config and 
MacSOUP and started reading mail. Worked fine. Then I send some email which 
returned with an error message from my provider's MTA. It told me 
the return-path of my message was wrong.

I assume what it means is the first line in an email's header which looks like:
From cat.ping.de!tom
.
.
From: Thomas Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
.
.

If my assumption is correct then MacSOUP generates a wrong header because 
the first line looks like:
From pobox.com!tadams

Now I wonder if I can configure SMail in such a way that it rewrites the first 
From line (aka Envelope?) to a format my provider likes?

Below is an example error message:

From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Sep  7 08:51:14 1998
Return-Path: real-tom
Received: by cat.ping.de
via rmail from stdin
id [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Debian Smail3.2.0.101)
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 08:51:12 +0200 (CEST) 
Received: (qmail 12284 invoked by uid 10); 6 Sep 1998 22:54:28 -
Date: 6 Sep 1998 22:54:28 -
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Mail failed - invalid return-path
Status: RO
Content-Length: 1191
Lines: 31

Hi. This is the rmail program at lilly.ping.de.
I am afraid I can only accept messages that have a valid return-path
(or From_ line) pointing to an address in the .ping.de domain.  This
is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

--- Below this line is a copy of the message.

From pobox.com!tadams Sun Sep  6 21:50:56 1998 remote from cat
Received: from [192.168.1.2] (really [192.168.1.2]) by cat.ping.de
via in.smtpd with smtp
id [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Debian Smail3.2.0.101)
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 21:50:56 +0200 (CEST) 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (xx xx)
Subject: x xxx  xxx
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Adams)
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 21:50:53 +0200
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Organization: none
X-Mailer: MacSOUP D-2.3.1 (unregistered)


Error Initializing swap partition on lowmem install

1998-09-07 Thread Tercero
Hello Debian users!
I'm hoping you can solve my problem.
I am installing debian 2.0 on a 386sx/20.
The system has 4Mb RAM w/ a 125Mb HDD, partioned as follows:
Partion#  Size  Type
-
1  16M   Linux Swap
2  4MMinix/Old Linux
3  89M   Linux Native
4  16M   Caldera DR-DOS
--
The two lines below appeared (along with many other things)
when I chose option #4 exit. (from the lowmem setup menu)

***
swapon failed
device or resource busy
***

I have run the low memory setup, and all appears well until,
In dinstall, I am told to initialize the swap portion.
I have already done so under the Lowmem install program.
I have tried all the options, except doing without a swap
partition.  Each time, it says the partion is busy and it 
cannot be initialized.
HELP!!!
Troy
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--Psalms 118:22
Everyone who falls on that stone will be broken to pieces,
but he on whom it falls will be crushed.
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Re: chmod help

1998-09-07 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, 7 Sep 1998, E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote:

 :  
 :  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Default Debian Reader)
 :  |
 :  | How can i change the perms on a directory so that a file that is copied 
into that directory is automatically owned by another user and group?
 :  

[ snip ]

 : Don't know if anyone mentioned it already, but you can actually do this
 : for the group ownership.  If you do a `chmod g+s dir', new files
 : created in this directory will get the same group.

In fact, this is why Debian uses usergroups rather than catch-all
groups like users - the default umask can be set so that your private
files in your home directory are indeed private, but files in a shared
project directory (take /usr/local/src as an example) can be editted by
anyone in group src, provided /usr/local/src has permissions 2775.

I hated usergroups when I started using Debian, until I figured out what
they were for.  Now I find them quite useful.

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Re: Virtual Poohsticks

1998-09-07 Thread Ole J. Tetlie
*-M.C. Vernon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|
| On 7 Sep 1998, Ole J. Tetlie wrote:
| 
|  Pooh was playing with Piglet, Rabbit and Roo when suddenly a big, grey
|  stick came floating. Upon closer inspection they found out that it was
|  Eeyore that came down the stream. He had been bounced into by a very
|  bouncy Tigger.
| 
| Do I not recall pooh tripping and dropping a pinecone into the stream?

Almost. Pooh invented the game when he tripped and dropped a fir-cone
into the stream.

-- 
.elOle.


Re: window sizing

1998-09-07 Thread jdassen
On Mon, Sep 07, 1998 at 11:36:35AM -0500, Kathy Miles wrote:
 Hi, hopeing someone can help me. I'm adjusting to using debian linux and
 still finding things a challenge. I'm running X and have been using
 various windows managers like fvwm95, icewm, and window maker. The problem
 is my display is 640 x 480 (due to visual impairment on my part)

Maybe I'm missing something, but wouldn't a larger resolution with matching
fonts be more suitable for you?

 and I can't get windows to come up the right size when I start X.

I'm including the relevant part of my ~/.Xresources file, which illustrates
how to set the default fonts for xterm and rxvt.

Another resource you might find useful is the Linux Access HOWTO's section
for the visually impaired:
http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/Access-HOWTO-3.html .

Hope this helps,
Ray


!!
!
! ~/.Xresources - X resource preferences.
!
! For information about X resources and associated commands, see xrdb(1x),
! editres(1x), appres(1x), listres(1x).
!
!!

! This file uses xrdb's capability of using cpp as a preprocesor.
! For documentation on cpp, see cpp(1) and the cpp info entry.

! xrdb defines several preprocessor symbols, including:
! HEIGHT=num
!   the height of the root window in pixels.
! WIDTH=num
!   the width of the root window in pixels.
! Use `xrdb -symbols' to view the symbols and their values.


! Abbreviations to shorten tests on display size

#if (WIDTH = 1280 )  (HEIGHT = 1024)
#  define W_1280
#elif (WIDTH = 1152 )  (HEIGHT = 864)
#  define W_1152
#elif (WIDTH = 1024 )  (HEIGHT = 768)
#  define W_1024
#elif (WIDTH = 800)  (HEIGHT = 600)
#  define W_800
#endif


!!
!
! Fixed width fonts
!
! Useful programs for determining font preferences:
! - xlsfonts(1x) 
!   - list X fonts matching a pattern (e.g. xlsfonts -fn '*-iso8859-1' ).
!   - `-ll' includes information on whether a font is proportional or not
! (`monospaced', `character cell'). 
! - xfd(1x) - show all glyphs in a font.
! - xfontsel(1x) - point and click selection of font names. .
!   (e.g. xfontsel -noscaled -pattern '*-iso8859-1' )
!
! Constraints: 
! - Fixed width (essential for terminal emulators)
! - ISO 8859-1 encoding and full ISO 8859-1 character set
! - Slightly on the big side (I don't like to have many windows on my display,
!   and often use screen(1) to keep things managable). 
! - The `huge' font should be as big as possible within the screen size.
! - FONT_UNREADABLE  FONT_TINY  FONT_SMALL  FONT_NORMAL  FONT_LARGISH
!FONT_LARGE  FONT_HUGE
!!

! I don't see the need for a separate Medium font - I use default for a
! medium (normal) sized font.
XTerm*fontMenu*font4*Label: Largish

#ifdef W_1152
#  define FONT_NORMAL -*-fixed-bold-r-*-*-15-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
#  define FONT_LARGISH -misc-fixed-*-*-*-*-20-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
#  define FONT_LARGE -sony-fixed-*-*-*-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
#  define FONT_HUGE -bh-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-*-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
#  define FONT_SMALL -misc-fixed-*-r-*-*-13-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
#  define FONT_TINY -bh-lucidatypewriter-*-r-*-*-8-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
#endif 

#ifdef W_1024
#  define FONT_NORMAL -misc-fixed-*-*-*-*-13-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1
#  define FONT_LARGISH -misc-fixed-*-*-*-*-15-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1
#  define FONT_LARGE -bitstream-terminal-medium-*-*-*-18-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1
#  define FONT_HUGE -sony-fixed-medium-*-*-*-24-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1
#  define FONT_SMALL -bh-lucidatypewriter-*-r-*-*-10-*-*-*-m-*-iso8859-1
#  define FONT_TINY -*-fixed-*-r-*-*-7-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1
#endif 

#if !defined(FONT_NORMAL) || defined(W_800)
! Default fonts

#  define FONT_NORMAL -misc-fixed-medium-r-*-*-13-*-*-*-*-70-iso8859-1
#  define FONT_LARGISH -misc-fixed-medium-r-*-*-13-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
#  define FONT_LARGE -misc-fixed-medium-r-*-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
#  define FONT_HUGE -misc-fixed-medium-r-*-*-15-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
#  define FONT_SMALL -bh-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
#  define FONT_TINY -misc-fixed-medium-r-*--7-*-*-*-*-50-iso8859-1
#endif 
! default fonts

#if !defined(FONT_UNREADABLE)
#  define FONT_UNREADABLE nil2
#endif

!!
!
! Fonts for terminal emulators
!
!!

XTerm*VT100*font:  FONT_NORMAL
XTerm*VT100*font1: FONT_UNREADABLE
XTerm*VT100*font2: FONT_TINY
XTerm*VT100*font3: FONT_SMALL
XTerm*VT100*font4: FONT_LARGISH
XTerm*VT100*font5: FONT_LARGE
XTerm*VT100*font6: FONT_HUGE

! rxvt takes over fonts from XTerm, but is has fewer font slots 
! (normal and 1..4); we override the XTerm font settings by skipping
! FONT_UNREADABLE and FONT_LARGISH
Rxvt*font:  

HELP newbie find specific shared libraries

1998-09-07 Thread Albert Hurd
Could anyone tell me where to find the following shared libraries (not
just site location, but specific tar files). I need them to hopefully
get Communicator 4.06-4.5 working (they are suggested in release notes)
 
  libXm.so.1.2.4  
  libICE.so.6.0  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  libXpm.so.4.9  
  libXext.so.6.1  
  libdl.so.1.7.14  
  libc.so.5.3.12  
  libg++.so.27.1.4  
  libstdc++.so.27.1.4  
  libm.so.5.0.6 


Any help would be much appreciated.

Albert Hurd


Re: Virtual Poohsticks

1998-09-07 Thread M.C. Vernon
On 7 Sep 1998, Ole J. Tetlie wrote:

 *-M.C. Vernon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |
 | On 7 Sep 1998, Ole J. Tetlie wrote:
 | 
 |  Pooh was playing with Piglet, Rabbit and Roo when suddenly a big, grey
 |  stick came floating. Upon closer inspection they found out that it was
 |  Eeyore that came down the stream. He had been bounced into by a very
 |  bouncy Tigger.
 | 
 | Do I not recall pooh tripping and dropping a pinecone into the stream?
 
 Almost. Pooh invented the game when he tripped and dropped a fir-cone
 into the stream.

:) pedantry of cam.misc quality!

Does the sudden surge of interest mean that someone might actually use a
server?

Matthew

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Re: HELP newbie find specific shared libraries

1998-09-07 Thread jdassen
On Mon, Sep 07, 1998 at 10:16:00AM -0700, Albert Hurd wrote:
 Could anyone tell me where to find the following shared libraries (not
 just site location, but specific tar files). I need them to hopefully
 get Communicator 4.06-4.5 working (they are suggested in release notes)

Any particular reason why you're not simply using the netscape4 installer
package from contrib/web? It has all the proper dependencies:
Depends: motifnls, ldso (= 1.9.7-0), libc5 (= 5.4.0-0), libc6, libg++27
(= 2.7.2.1-1), xlib6 (= 3.3-0), xpm4.7 (= 3.4j-0)

   libXm.so.1.2.4  

That's Motif; it's commercial software. If you don't have Motif, get the
statically linked version of netscape.

HTH,
Ray
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Re: Audio

1998-09-07 Thread Jens Ritter
Michael Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I was going through my .wav file collection, and after a while (250 odd
 playings) bplay died reporting there was no room left on device. I tried
 starting quake after this... segfault, like I predicted. DMA allocation
 failed. I am nowhere near a sound guru, but this does not seem right, I
 mean quake plays many sounds, a lot together, or in succession. More than
 250 anyway. Is this a problem with bplay? If not, how can it be cured?
 Playing mp3's still worked, and some other things did not. Has anybody
 stumbled across this before? I am sorry, I can't supply more information,
 I was silly and rebooted to fix the problem, hence losing the actual error
 messages.

While running bplay, what does a watch df in another window show?

HTH,

Jens
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heartbreak of seeing that carefully-nurtured uptime go to zero is not
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2.0 SCSI_HOSTADATER, st0, Zip, vs depmod ?

1998-09-07 Thread Ken Westerback
When I originally installed Debian 2.0 from CD I could swear
that my SCSI tape drive on my ncr53c8xx SCSI host adapter
was seen and reported at boot up time. I eventually compiled
up a custom kernel and since I never use the tape drive (I
mean, what could happen to my files on disk anyway?) I
stopped looking for the message and I don't know if was ever
there after the installation of my custom kernel. Anyway ...

I attached my Zip Plus to the external connection of the
ncr53c8xx after my NT box blew itself to smithereens
(software-wise) and now I wanted to actually use SCSI. I
recompiled my kernel to include SCSI disk support and
rebooted. No luck on the Zip. After some cursing, browsing,
searching, thinking and reading (in that order) I did an
'insmod ncr53c8xxx' and viola I could use the Zip drive.

Then I thought - how could my tape drive be working if I had
to load the SCSI adapter driver manually? I rebooted,
watched the messages and then tried the tape drive with a
quick tar. No luck. So neither my tape drive nor my Zip Plus
(both on the ncr53c8xx) were available automatically after a
boot. All the SCSI stuff was configured as modules so ...

curse, browse, search, think, read 

I added the line alias scsi_hostadapter ncr53c8xx to
/etc/conf.modules and the line scsi_hostadapter to
/etc/modules just before the line st. I rebooted and now
the devices are available automatically after a boot.

But ... why did I have to add the lines? If st was already
in /etc/modules would modprobe not automatically load the
modules it depends on? Would it not depend on ncr53c8xx? I
tried a quick depmod -a to rebuild the dependency file but
this did not help - still needed the explicit line in
/etc/modules.

So the question is: Is something wrong with the dependencies
or is this the way it is supposed to work? And second, is
what I did the best way to make the tape drive and the zip
drive automatically available? 

Any information welcome!

 Ken


Re: HELP newbie find specific shared libraries

1998-09-07 Thread servis
*- Albert Hurd wrote about HELP newbie find specific shared libraries
| Could anyone tell me where to find the following shared libraries (not
| just site location, but specific tar files). I need them to hopefully
| get Communicator 4.06-4.5 working (they are suggested in release notes)
|  
|   libXm.so.1.2.4  
|   libICE.so.6.0  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|   libXpm.so.4.9  
|   libXext.so.6.1  
|   libdl.so.1.7.14  
|   libc.so.5.3.12  
|   libg++.so.27.1.4  
|   libstdc++.so.27.1.4  
|   libm.so.5.0.6 
| 
| 
| Any help would be much appreciated.
| 
| Albert Hurd
| 
| 
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Go get the file,
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/Contents-i386.gz

Then use zgrep to search the Contents file for each library(minus the
version number) you are missing.  I.e. 

% zgrep libICE.so Contents-i386.gz
usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so  x11/xlib6g-dev
usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6x11/xlib6g
usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6.3  x11/xlib6g
usr/i486-linuxlibc1/lib/libICE.so
oldlibs/xlib6-altdev
usr/lib/libc5-compat/libICE.so.6 oldlibs/xlib6
usr/lib/libc5-compat/libICE.so.6.3   oldlibs/xlib6

So if you are running the glibc version of Netscape you need the xlib6g
package and if you are running the libc5 version of Netscape you need
the xlib6 package.

The better thing would be to use the netscape installer in the contrib
section of the Debian packages and it will tell you what it depends on,
at least for the libc5 version of Netscape.

Brian 
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Re: HELP newbie find specific shared libraries

1998-09-07 Thread Bob Nielsen
You probably should get the Debian packages, not the tar files.

1.  The easy way (the Debian way):

If you download communicator 4.06 (not the glibc version) and put it in
/tmp, then use dselect or apt-get to install the netscape4 package, it
will examine the dependencies and install all the necessary libraries.


2.  The harder way:

(It looks like you have the libc5 version of Netscape.  Note that the
libc6 versions of some of the files have the same names, but are
installed in different directories.)

  libXm.so.1.2.4- libXm.so.1.2 in the lesstifg package
  libICE.so.6.0 - libICE.so.6 in the xlib6 package
  libXpm.so.4.9 - libXpm.so.4.10 in the xpm4.7 package
  libXext.so.6.1- libXext.so.6.3 in the xlib6 package
  libdl.so.1.7.14   - libdl.so.1.9.9 in the ldso package
  libc.so.5.3.12- libc.so.5.0.38 in the libc5 package
  libg++.so.27.1.4  - libg++.so.27.2.1 in the libg++27 package
  libstdc++.so.27.1.4   - libstdc++.so.27.2.1 in the libg++27 package
  libm.so.5.0.6 - libm.so.5.0.5 in the libc5 package

I strongly recommend that you use either dselect or apt-get to avoid
getting into dependency problems.  The apt method in dselect works quite
nicely.  Unfortunately apt is not part of the Debian 2.0 distribution, but
is available in /dists/unstable/binary-i386/admin.  Don't let the
unstable scare you away from it--it is a valuable tool and IMHO should
be on every Debian system.  

Bob

On Mon, 7 Sep 1998, Albert Hurd wrote:

 Could anyone tell me where to find the following shared libraries (not
 just site location, but specific tar files). I need them to hopefully
 get Communicator 4.06-4.5 working (they are suggested in release notes)
  
   libXm.so.1.2.4  
   libICE.so.6.0  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   libXpm.so.4.9  
   libXext.so.6.1  
   libdl.so.1.7.14  
   libc.so.5.3.12  
   libg++.so.27.1.4  
   libstdc++.so.27.1.4  
   libm.so.5.0.6 
 


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Re: Commandline FTP

1998-09-07 Thread Jens Ritter
Darren Benham [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 When looking at the ncftp, I didn't see any place to specify a
 command line..  but I didn't look deeply into it.  I eventually just
 ended up writing a python script (and getting it to work :)

In bash:

ncftp EOF
open ftp.xyz.com
user name password
cd /xyz
get xyz.tar.gz
cl
EOF

HTH,

Jens
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Re: deb for StarOffice 4

1998-09-07 Thread Jens Ritter
David Warnock [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have downloaded StarOffice 4. I have not seen a package to install
 this (there is one for StarOffice 3.1).
 
 a) Is there a package somewhere that will install so40sp3_lnx_01.tar.gz

AFAIK: no.
The installer of SO is rather good (It installs everything in one
directory, so no problems on delete time).

 b) If there is not how easy is it to create on like the one for
 StarOffice 3.1 (or Netscape 4)? I am interested not just for StarOffice
 but for apps we write and need to install/uninstll on our own LAN.

It's easy. See http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/deb-make/

Jens


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The fate of empires and the fall of kings;
While quacks of State must each produce his plan,
And even children lisp the Rights of Man;
Amid this mighty fuss just let me mention,
The Rights of Woman merit some attention.
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Cannot convert string -*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-.... to type FontStruct

1998-09-07 Thread jc
Hi!
I always get the above warning/error messages when I invoked some
applications like Netsape, emacs, acroread...

How can I solve this problem?

Thank you

Joseph


Re: wmaker 0.19

1998-09-07 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sun, Sep 06, 1998 at 01:20:33AM +, Robert Wilderspin wrote:

  1. As root, run ldconfig. If that fixes it, please report it back to
 me. (I *hope* it doesn't fix it)  [note: look at the bug-reporting
 system to find out who me is]

I know... do I get a prize or something?!? ;-)

  2. If 1. fails, upgrade to a newer version of xlib6g. You can pick
 the one in debian/hamm/hamm/binary-i386/x11/xlib6g_3.3.2.3-1.deb
 This fixed the problem for another user.

(1.) won't work (yipee!!); 2. will; the problem is an ancient version of
xlib6g. I have talked with the maintainer of X about this. 0.19.2 will have
this problem fixed (/me hopes)


Marcelo


jdk 1.5 - 1.6 incompatibilities? (was Re: ICQ Does Not Match the JDK?)

1998-09-07 Thread Jens Ritter
Art Lemasters [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm running slink.  The JDK available appears to
 conflict with the ICQ available.  Is this the case,
 and if so, is there an update for this on the way? 
 Thanks.

I'm running this here without problems:

ii  jdk1.1-runtime  1.1.5v5-1  JDK 1.1.x (Java Development Kit) - Runtime o
ii  icq-java0.1Popular online communication software (insta

The new jdk 1.1.6v2-1 seems to conflict with jdk 1.1.5v5-1. 
icq-java depends on jdk1.1-runtime.

Where has -runtime gone, is it obsolete?
Does icq-java have to depend on jdk1.1 and not on runtime?


Jens

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problems: the uptime counter wraps back to zero after 497 days. The
heartbreak of seeing that carefully-nurtured uptime go to zero is not
something that should be inflicted on anybody.
-- http://lwn.net/  August 27, 1998


Re: window sizing

1998-09-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,

Try a variation of these:

-~/.xsession or .xinitrc---
default_dir=/home/srivasta
userresources=$default_dir/.Xresources
if [ -f $userresources ]; then
xrdb -merge $userresources
fi
__
~/.Xresources
XTerm*boldFont:   6x13bold
XTerm*menuFont:   6x13bold
XTerm*VT100*geometry: 80x5+0+100
__

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Re: HELP: More Problems Configuring Email

1998-09-07 Thread Jack Kern
On Mon, Sep 07, 1998 at 10:33:11AM -0300, Ralph Winslow wrote:
 When Art Lemasters wrote, I replied:
[...]
 wasn't much help.  My current state is:
 
 when I rune fetchmail, it responds:
 fetchmail: 36 messages at mail.my_isp.net
 reading message 1 of 36 (1732 bytes) .fetchmail: SMTP connect to
 localhost failed: connection refused
 fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from mail.my_isp.net
[...]

fetchmail is configured by default to use smtp to receive mail.
Check /etc/inetd.conf.  It should have something like the following.

#:MAIL: Mail, news and uucp services.
smtp   stream  tcp nowait  root/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.smtpd

fetchmail is trying to use in.smtpd and the connection is being refused.


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Runs linux on a partition with fat32 and win98

1998-09-07 Thread Bernhard Hödl
I have win98 with fat32 installed on my pc and I want to know if it is
possible without the formating of the hard disk to install Debian 2.0


Thanks!


Re: Runs linux on a partition with fat32 and win98

1998-09-07 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Mon, 7 Sep 1998, [iso-8859-1] Bernhard Hödl wrote:

 I have win98 with fat32 installed on my pc and I want to know if it is
 possible without the formating of the hard disk to install Debian 2.0

Yes.  You will need to get the program fips15c.zip.  This is on
ftp.debian.org in /pub/debian/tools (it may also be on Debian 2.0 CDs).

It will allow you to repartition your hard drive to dedicate some space to
Linux.  The 15c version will handle FAT32.  The commercial program
Partition Magic will also work with a FAT32 file system.  

Debian 2.0 installs kernel 2.0.33. If you want to be able to read/write to
FAT32 partitions after installing Debian 2.0, you should upgrade to kernel
2.0.34 or later, which recognize FAT32.  2.0.35 is the latest in the 2.0
series, and is available as a Debian kernel-image package in /unstable,
while 2.0.34 is in /stable.

Bob


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database

1998-09-07 Thread Rick Knebel
Hi,
I use access at work for some really simple database work.
Is there  anything in linux I could start using so i can be using one less
app in NT.

I know there is nothing real similiar but maybe a little bit alike.

Most of the databases i have looked at in linux are very hard to set up and
do way more than I need.

Thanks Alot

Rick

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users starting with digits?

1998-09-07 Thread Ben Jorgensen
Why shouldn't I create users starting with digits?

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Database Client

1998-09-07 Thread Kent West
Hi All.
 I'd DEARLY love to get Linux established on my university campus, but
one of the stumbling blocks is that one of our major apps is based on an
SQLServer 6.5 database running on an NT Server. The clients are all
Win95/98/NT based. Is there anyway for me to connect to the SQLServer
data using a Linux client?
 I at first thought postgresql might do it, but after installing it I
can't even figure out how to get it to run (I can't even find the pgsql
that a Postgresql tutorial mentions).

Thanks for any clues.

Kent West
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Re: Database Client

1998-09-07 Thread Kent West
Kent West wrote:
 
 Hi All.
  I'd DEARLY love to get Linux established on my university campus, but
 one of the stumbling blocks is that one of our major apps is based on an
 SQLServer 6.5 database running on an NT Server. The clients are all
 Win95/98/NT based. Is there anyway for me to connect to the SQLServer
 data using a Linux client?
  I at first thought postgresql might do it, but after installing it I
 can't even figure out how to get it to run (I can't even find the pgsql
 that a Postgresql tutorial mentions).
 
 Thanks for any clues.
 
 Kent West
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Okay. I found the pgsql file (although I wonder why locate didn't find
it, even after I did an updatedb). Still, since I don't know what I'm
doing, will this app do what I want it to?
Thanks.


Re: HELP: More Problems Configuring Email

1998-09-07 Thread Ralph Winslow
When Jack Kern wrote, I replied:

For reference my .fetchmailrci, as previously attached:

poll mail.my_isp.net protocol pop3 username rjw password secret_word
 
 On Mon, Sep 07, 1998 at 10:33:11AM -0300, Ralph Winslow wrote:
  When Art Lemasters wrote, I replied:
 [...]
  wasn't much help.  My current state is:
 
  when I rune fetchmail, it responds:
  fetchmail: 36 messages at mail.my_isp.net
  reading message 1 of 36 (1732 bytes) .fetchmail: SMTP connect to
  localhost failed: connection refused
  fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from mail.my_isp.net
 [...]
 
 fetchmail is configured by default to use smtp to receive mail.
 Check /etc/inetd.conf.  It should have something like the following.
 
 #:MAIL: Mail, news and uucp services.
 smtp   stream  tcp nowait  root/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.smtpd
 
 fetchmail is trying to use in.smtpd and the connection is being refused.

But I thought that the phrase protocol pop3 in ~rjw/.fetchmailrc
would make fetchmail use pop3 instead.  In any case, I found an
active line for smtp, and commented-out lines for pop-2 and pop-3.
I commented smtp out and pop-3 in, but even after a /etc/sbin/netbase
restart, sendmail still gets the same SMTP errors.  Was ist lose? Auch

I found /etc/init.d/exim and /etc/init.d/netbase have references to smtp
and inetd; exim's specify smtp, I used netbase to restart inetd after
editing /etc/inetd.conf.  Since exim is an mta that supplies a sendmail
command (but no fetchmail), I'm guessing that I can leave it alone.
 
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Re: Commandline FTP

1998-09-07 Thread Lazar Fleysher

What about 

$ ftp -n hostname  script.name   /dev/null

and the script.name is just:

user username password 
put local.file remote.file
quit

Would it solve your problem?

ZORO



domain name

1998-09-07 Thread Rick Knebel
Hi,
I have a registerd domain name and have a static IP address from my ISP.
Is there any way I could call my home box my registered domain and use the
nameservers that I get from my ISP.
I have a small web site on my home computer and when someone types
www.knebel.com I wouls like it to show my web page.

Thanks Alot

Rick

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Re: HELP: More Problems Configuring Email

1998-09-07 Thread Jack Kern
On Mon, Sep 07, 1998 at 04:13:06PM -0300, Ralph Winslow wrote:
 When Jack Kern wrote, I replied:
 
 For reference my .fetchmailrci, as previously attached:
 
 poll mail.my_isp.net protocol pop3 username rjw password secret_word
  
  On Mon, Sep 07, 1998 at 10:33:11AM -0300, Ralph Winslow wrote:
   When Art Lemasters wrote, I replied:
  [...]
   wasn't much help.  My current state is:
  
   when I rune fetchmail, it responds:
   fetchmail: 36 messages at mail.my_isp.net
   reading message 1 of 36 (1732 bytes) .fetchmail: SMTP connect to
   localhost failed: connection refused
   fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from mail.my_isp.net
  [...]
  
  fetchmail is configured by default to use smtp to receive mail.
  Check /etc/inetd.conf.  It should have something like the following.
  
  #:MAIL: Mail, news and uucp services.
  smtp   stream  tcp nowait  root/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.smtpd
  
  fetchmail is trying to use in.smtpd and the connection is being refused.
 
 But I thought that the phrase protocol pop3 in ~rjw/.fetchmailrc
 would make fetchmail use pop3 instead.  In any case, I found an
 active line for smtp, and commented-out lines for pop-2 and pop-3.
 I commented smtp out and pop-3 in, but even after a /etc/sbin/netbase
 restart, sendmail still gets the same SMTP errors.  Was ist lose? Auch
 

fetchmail will use protocol pop3 to fetch the mail from your isp
server.  fetchmail then wants to deliver the mail via smtp to your
system where smail, sendmail, exim, or whatever, will take over.

Did you mean to say that you commented smtp out?

Sorry, I am having trouble following you.  Please try leaving the smtp
line _uncommented_ in /etc/inetd.conf (as noted above)  and then doing
(as root) killall -HUP inetd.  That should wake up smtp and get your
mail delivered.

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apt-get just the packages

1998-09-07 Thread Vincent Murphy
Hi. I'd like to be able to type in

  apt-get latest-version-of-windowmaker

and have apt-get instead of installing the packages, stick them in
/zip, my zip drive, so i can take them home. Is this possible?

thanks,
vincent murphy


Re: domain name

1998-09-07 Thread Bob Nielsen
Yes, but it looks like you are already set up for this.  Ping and
traceroute both work, although a reverse lookup shows x192.ntx.net.
www.knebel.com takes me to your web page (not much there yet!).

Bob

On Mon, 7 Sep 1998, Rick Knebel wrote:

 Hi,
 I have a registerd domain name and have a static IP address from my ISP.
 Is there any way I could call my home box my registered domain and use the
 nameservers that I get from my ISP.
 I have a small web site on my home computer and when someone types
 www.knebel.com I wouls like it to show my web page.
 
 Thanks Alot
 
 Rick
 
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Re: X is hosed

1998-09-07 Thread Robert Wilderspin
On 7 Sep 98 14:34:34 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I stuck my neck out and upgraded X11 to the packages in slink.  Just
previous to that I had upgraded wmaker to 0.19.1-1, also new on slink.
At first, wmaker crashed the session.  I purged wmaker.  

Now, for some reason I cannot fathom, xdm starts but when a user logs
in, the session crashes.  Root can log in ok.  Root can use startx,
but a user cannot.  

Looks like permissions.  Permissions of WHAT?

Upgrade xlib6g to the latest version.  Wmaker has a problem with the
old one such that it crashes immediately (after xdm has finished).

I now downgraded back to the X11 packages in hamm, but the same
problem persists.  

I still don't understand what wmaker did.  I upgraded the libraries,
and installed wmaker libs too.  That's one of the last things I did
before this happened.

It sounds like your system is still trying to run wmaker, and so still
crashing.  Edit your user's ~/.xsession file and comment out the line
which loads wmaker.  And replace it with a different manager,
preferably.

I'd suggest giving wmaker another try though, after upgrading xlib6g.


Rob Wilderspin
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Re: apt-get just the packages

1998-09-07 Thread Bob Nielsen
apt-get -d install wmaker

This will retrieve the file (by default to /var/cache/apt/archives) and
you can copy it to the zip drive.  You could link this to /zip.

On Mon, 7 Sep 1998, Vincent Murphy wrote:

 Hi. I'd like to be able to type in
 
   apt-get latest-version-of-windowmaker
 
 and have apt-get instead of installing the packages, stick them in
 /zip, my zip drive, so i can take them home. Is this possible?
 
 thanks,
 vincent murphy
 
 
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Re: Your friends...... whatever.

1998-09-07 Thread Jens Ritter
Igor Grobman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Some time around  Mon, 07 Sep 1998 18:44:35 +1200, 
  Michael Beattie wrote:
   On Sat, 5 Sep 1998, Igor Grobman wrote:
   

  Having said that there is one exception to this rule ;-) and that is 
  aol.com . 
It has been established that 99.9% of the mail with @aol.com from field 
 ha
   s 
nothing to do with any topics relevant to debian lists.  Right now, all 
aol.com posts come to me, and I forward them to the list if necessary (I 
haven't had to do any of that lately).
   
   Heh... its funny really.. AOL has quite strict rules does it not? Correct
   me if I am wrong.

 Yes they do, but they do have a huge customer base and it's very
 easy to sign on even for a newbie, plus their clueful/clueless ratio
 is probably the lowest in the industry ;-).  That means that the
 spammers have no problem signing on with a new account as soon as
 they are kicked off, and that the chances of a relevant post to
 debian lists are very low.  I haven't seen one in about 2 months.

In addition their software is proprietary from scratch. Rumor goes
they wrote a complete OS for providing the service. This
gives them 100% virus protection... (well nearly). And this is why their
software only runs on Windows boxes, thus the signal to noise ratio is
stunningly low, isn't it?

Jens

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Re: Database Client

1998-09-07 Thread Nicolai Guba
 Kent == Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Kent Organization: Abilene Christian University
Kent X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.34 i586)

Kent Okay. I found the pgsql file (although I wonder why locate didn't find
Kent it, even after I did an updatedb). Still, since I don't know what I'm
Kent doing, will this app do what I want it to?
Kent Thanks.

I doubt it, since it is the interface to the postgres db system.  Not sure
whether you can connect with it to other rdbms.  Maybe you ought to look into
ODBC stuff, which MS-SQL Server supports.

When I was in my final year, my Uni switched from SunOS to Lignux (Debian,
incidentally, hehehe) and they offered a dual-boot, nt and debian.
Administering the Debian network side never took much time accrdng to the
admins, it's the nt side of things that cost them a lot of time...

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Re: Database Client

1998-09-07 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi All.
 I'd DEARLY love to get Linux established on my university campus, but
one of the stumbling blocks is that one of our major apps is based on an
SQLServer 6.5 database running on an NT Server. The clients are all
Win95/98/NT based. Is there anyway for me to connect to the SQLServer
data using a Linux client?

I think so, there is undoubtedly a Perl DBD driver for it so you
can use DBI and DBD to talk to the database. That is supposing you
want to use perl for the job, but there is also a command line sql
client written in perl that comes with DBI.

Hmm... I checked, there is not really something for M$ databases,
but they supposedly use the same protocol as Sybase, so the Sybase
stuff _might_ work with a M$ SQL server.

See also the FreeTDS project at http://tbwa.volcano.org/freetds/

 I at first thought postgresql might do it, but after installing it I
can't even figure out how to get it to run (I can't even find the pgsql
that a Postgresql tutorial mentions).

Postgres _is_ a database. You don't want to install a database,
you just want a way to connect to the remote database right?

Mike.
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