Re(2): Multi-partitions

[Kent West]

At 07:22 PM 10/6/1998 -0400, Adrian Gudas wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>>Hope this wasn't two much, or too little, hand-holding.
>No, no, thanks a lot -- you solved a lot of problems for me.
>This is so much better than Windows tech support. (I like to call them and
>mess with their heads. "Can I talk to Mr. Gates?" "No, sir...")
>
>Could you clarify another couple things:
>1. Does fips work with FAT32? I have it, but I've been too scared to use
>it.
>2. How does lilo work? (Any complications I need to know about...?)
>
>Again, thanks SO much (for your help and everyone else's)...
>Adrian

Let me preface this by saying that I'm fairly new to Linux/Unix, so take
what I say with a grain of salt.

1) I've never used fips, so I can't speak to it. Perhaps someone else on
the list can help with this one.

2) lilo is basically a 2-step process. You create/edit the /etc/lilo.conf
file, and then you run lilo to setup the boot record according to the
instructions in that file. The liloconfig program will help you create the
/etc/lilo.conf file, but like I say, I don't believe it will automatically
put in the stuff you need for your DOS partition, so you'll probably need
to edit it (using vi, or ae, or emacs, or whatever suits you). Here's what
my current /etc/lilo.conf looks like:

boot=/dev/hda2
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
compact
prompt
timeout=100
vga=normal
delay=20

#Linux
image=/vmlinuz
label=Linux
root=/dev/hda2
read-only

If I had a DOS partition, it'd have another stanze (like the "#Linux" and
following lines) that looks something like this (BUT THIS IS NOT ACCURATE!!
it's a rough memory I have):

#DOG/Winblows partition
other=DOS/Windows
label=DOS
root=/dev/hda1
read/write

I've got a couple of Linux books that I don't have in front of me; if I
did, I'd give you a more realistic example. I'm sure there's lots of
examples on the web; if you don't find one that helps you understand
enough, holler back and I'll do a little more research.

One piece of info you may not come across very easily is that you can setup
your lilo.conf file to display a message like:

 Please press 1 or 2 and then press :
  1) DOS/Windows
  2) A real OS (Linux)

and then wait for the user to make a choice. You'd put the "menu" text in a
file (say "message" in the /boot directory and then put a line in
/etc/lilo.conf like:
message=/boot/message
Then you have to add a line to the lilo.conf file that displays the message
without waiting for the user to press Shift, but I don't recall off the top
of my head what that line is. You can also specify to wait 5 seconds, 10s,
or forever, or whatever before taking the default, which I believe is the
first stanza found in the file.

After you have the file the way you want it, just run lilo and the boot
record will be set up accordingly.

Kent



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Re: Will pointing dselect to slink hose hamm system?

[Michael Beattie]

On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, Kent West wrote:

> If I go into the Method option of dselect and change my ftp source from
> stable to unstable, in order for me to download one package (gnome), will
> dselect try to download everything that's got a newer version to what I've
> got installed?
> 
> In other words, how do I just get gnome (and its dependents) without
> messing up my hamm system and/or what dselect looks for in the future?
> 


Add the new source line in /etc/apt/sources.list, but leave the hamm one
there as well.
After updating, use the [S]elect option, and put all updated pakages on
hold, and select gnome. Install, then remove the slink source line from
/etc/apt/sources.list, update again, and bingo.. back to hamm with gnome
installed.

Then again, you could just download the required packages and
 'dpkg -i ' them.

HTH,

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[off topic] A pause in C?

[Michael Beattie]

I am after a way to generate a pause of 300ns in a C program I am working
on. At the moment, I am using a for loop of about 70 iterations..
works okay, but on a faster system it will die.. (needed to slow down I/O
with an interface card)
I was looking at the info page for libc (which seems to be broken.. I cant
go to other nodes from 'info libc') and found the timeval structure. It
looks like what I want, but I cant work it out.. can someone help?

something like:

void p_300ns()
{
  struct timeval interval;

  // assign interval its members here.. ??
  
  long int start = interval->tv_usec;

  do {
// assign interval its members here again
  } while interval->tv_usec < start + 3;

  // have to excuse my memory..  ^^^  what is nano ? micro
  // is one millionth, nano is one something thousandth.. ??

}


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Re: URGENT !!! SYSTEM BROKEN (CONT)

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 11:02:31PM +0100, G. Kapetanios wrote:
> Following to my prvious email
> I have installed lilo. the system can boot from floppy. 
> However, when I try to boot from disk the boot starts 
> but it hangs with the following message 
> 
> VFS Mounted root (ext2) filesystem
> Unable to open an initial console
> 
> This does not happen with the floppy boot. 
> Any ideas ?

It cannot find /dev/console on your root partition. This coule mean
either that just that file does not exist (it certainly should),
or that the partition is ext2fs but is not your root file system.
Do you have another ext2 partition which you might have pointed
it to mistakenly? (With root= on the command line or in lilo.conf?)


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Re(2): Multi-partitions

[Adrian Gudas]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>Hope this wasn't two much, or too little, hand-holding.
No, no, thanks a lot -- you solved a lot of problems for me.
This is so much better than Windows tech support. (I like to call them and
mess with their heads. "Can I talk to Mr. Gates?" "No, sir...")

Could you clarify another couple things:
1. Does fips work with FAT32? I have it, but I've been too scared to use
it.
2. How does lilo work? (Any complications I need to know about...?)

Again, thanks SO much (for your help and everyone else's)...
Adrian

dot matrix printer

[Justin Maurer]

we're setting up our print server at school - one machine is going
to have 3 printers hanging off of it. one of them, however, is a dot
matrix printer. it is a Panasonic KX-P1624. we have had difficulties in
setting it up (it is a dot matrix printer). please contact me if you can
help (i am not subscribed to the list). it would be nice if there was one
tool or something that would work for all three (i didn't see an
appopriate filter with magicfilterconfig).

thanks


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Will pointing dselect to slink hose hamm system?

[Kent West]

If I go into the Method option of dselect and change my ftp source from
stable to unstable, in order for me to download one package (gnome), will
dselect try to download everything that's got a newer version to what I've
got installed?

In other words, how do I just get gnome (and its dependents) without
messing up my hamm system and/or what dselect looks for in the future?

Thanks.

Kent



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Abilene Christian Univ., Abilene, TX
915-674-2557  FAX: 915.674.6724
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Re: Safe rm available?

[Tommi Kaariainen]

"Kendall P. Bullen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> This is a fallacy.  (Or maybe Unix geeks aren't as smart as DOS
> geeks?)  I set up something of my own and am no more nor less likely
> to delete the wrong file.  Despite DOS's undelete, Norton's unerase,
> Novell's salvage, and my own version under Linux -- I haven't shot
> myself in the foot in eons.  I haven't even had to go to my .trash
> directory in a long time.  I only go there occasionally to clean it
> out.

Some other people may shoot themselves in the foot if they don't learn
that rm is in most Unix/Linux systems a powerful and unforgiving beast that
does its work irreversibly. Thinking that rm is kinder and gentler than it
is may lead to carelessness in deleting files.


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The truth is out there:
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Re: Multi-partitions

[Kent West]

At 05:22 PM 10/6/1998 -0400, Adrian Gudas wrote:
>Okay, this is a bit of a newbie question. You've been warned...
>
>I haven't installed Linux yet, but I'm going to as soon as my CD's arrive in
>the mail. I'm pretty well-versed with the setup procedures (after having
>read the installation instructions 100 times while on the john -- yes, I
>have no life).
>
>I'm still a bit confused, however, with the way it handles partitions. Am I
>supposed to use DOS fdisk to partition and format a DOS partition, and then
>run Debian's install, partitioning "sub-partitions" under the non-DOS
>partition that I've created earlier? Or will Debian's installation let me
>set up a "DOS" partition for me to boot and format later?
>
>And then, how will I be able to tell what operating system installs into
>what partition, and what the MBR will reflect? Help...
>
>Adrian

Pretend you have a 2GB drive, and you want to give 1GB to DOS and 1GB to
Linux.
Use DOS's FDISK to partition the drive, but only partition 1 GB (leaving
the second gig unpartitioned). Then after your reboot, you can format the
drive and you'll have a C:drive and another gig you'd never know about
unless you run FDISK (or something similar) to look at the drive.

Now use Linux's fdisk (during the Linux install or outside of it) and
you'll see that your 2GB drive has a 1GB DOS partition and 1GB of free
space. You'd partition that free space as a Linux partition (or partitions).

You could do it the other way around, and partition the Linux side first,
then the DOS side.

You could partition the DOS side from Linux's fdisk, but I've read that DOS
won't always read partitions created by other OSes. You can NOT partition
the Linux side from DOS, because DOS doesn't know about Linux.

I'm not sure, but I about half think that the DOS bootable partition MUST
be the first partition. Again, don't quote me on this.

At any rate, you'll have at least two partitions when you're done: a DOS
partition (or partitions), and a Linux partition (or partitions). You will
not have a Linux sub-partition on/below a DOS partition.

If you've ever gotten a new PC with a large hard drive (4GB or so) with
WinX pre-installed, the vendor may have partitioned the drive into two or
more logical drives (C: and D:, even though they're both physically on one
physical drive). Likewise, you are (for discussion purposes) creating two
or more logical drives on one physical drive; one for DOS, and one for Linux.

As far as the MBR goes, if you install DOS or Win, it'll write to the MBR
and assume it's the only OS you'd ever want on your computer. If you
install Linux's lilo, it'll write to the MBR, but will allow you to specify
what OS you want to boot from.

If you've already got a DOS/Win partition, and it's taking up the entire
drive, you'll have to resize the partition (destroying data unless you use
something like the newest Partition Magic or maybe the Linux-bred and free
fips utility). Also, when the Linux install asks if you want to install
lilo, I'd say no for now and just use the boot floppy you create instead.
Then once you know your system is working properly, you can go back and
install lilo. The reason I say this is two-fold: 1) I like to make sure
I've got a working system before messing with the MBR, and 2) I don't think
the installation routine sets up lilo to recognize your old DOS partition,
so your DOS side would be lost to you until you can reconfigure lilo.

Hope this wasn't two much, or too little, hand-holding.

Kent


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Re: Multi-partitions

[Randy Edwards]

DOS is fairly fussy about where it wants its partitions.  If I were you, I'd 
make a
small DOS partition with DOS (how large is this supposed to be?  Beware of the
~510MB/1024 cylinder BIOS problems), install DOS onto it, and then install 
Debian
elsewhere on the hard drive using Linux's fdisk to make your new partitions.

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Re: Adaptec aic7XXX driver

[Gary L. Hennigan]

"Timm Gleason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| Does anyone know if there is a specific site for distribution of the newest
| Adaptec Linux drivers? Similar to the development pages that Donald Becker
| has for the tulip and epic network drivers.

There's the mailing list. Send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the 
following line in the message body:

subscribe aic7xxx 

It's pretty low volume so it won't fill your mailbox or anything.

| I have noticed that the version we are using does not seem to drive our UW
| IBM drives at their highest speed even though the card bios is set for
| 40MB/s, the driver initializes the drives at 20MB/s.

I THINK this is a pretty well known problem. Actually, you're lucky
the original driver recognizes the Ultra drives at all.

| I have looked and looked and haven't been able to find a source other than
| the latest kernel source, and those aren't any newer than the one we are
| using (June 98)

There are patches available for the 2.0.35 kernel source, as well as
the 2.1.123 development kernel source. The URL is

ftp://ftp.dialnet.net/pub/linux/aic7xxx/5.1.0-pre-patches

Despite what it says, the latest is pre15, not pre14. Doug Ledford,
the developer, just popped that one on the server before he left for a
short time.

It's fairly stable, but some people are still having trouble with
their U2W controllers, and it's IDing one of my wide drives as a
narrow drive. Other than that I've been using the patches Doug puts up 
for about a month and haven't had any other problems.

Gary

SpeakerPhone software?

[Alexander Kushnirenko]

Hi,

Is it possible to put my phone on speakers?  So that when other person talk to 
me by phone, I'll hear him on my speakers...  I have SoundBlaster compatilbe 
Sound Card, and Zoltrix 33.6 Interenal Modem with speakerphone (if it is of 
any use for this purpose).

Do I need a sofware program, or just one of those special AT commands to make 
things work?  I tried to use mgetty-voice but no luck there

Thank you,
Sasha.

URGENT !!! SYSTEM BROKEN (CONT)

[G. Kapetanios]

Following to my prvious email
I have installed lilo. the system can boot from floppy. 
However, when I try to boot from disk the boot starts 
but it hangs with the following message 

VFS Mounted root (ext2) filesystem
Unable to open an initial console

This does not happen with the floppy boot. 
Any ideas ?

George 

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Adaptec aic7XXX driver

[Timm Gleason]

Does anyone know if there is a specific site for distribution of the newest
Adaptec Linux drivers? Similar to the development pages that Donald Becker
has for the tulip and epic network drivers.

I have noticed that the version we are using does not seem to drive our UW
IBM drives at their highest speed even though the card bios is set for
40MB/s, the driver initializes the drives at 20MB/s.

I have looked and looked and haven't been able to find a source other than
the latest kernel source, and those aren't any newer than the one we are
using (June 98)

Thanks

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Re: HELP: lp daemon not present

[Nathan E Norman]

On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, Albert Hurd wrote:

 : I am having trouble printing in WP8 under Linux 2.0 but have no problem
 : under any other program, eg Netscape. I have a Lexmark

Doesn't WP8 write to the priner directly?  WP has always done that
AFAIK.

Of course, I don't know how to fix the problem but I suspect the answer
lies within WP itself.

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HELP: lp daemon not present

[Albert Hurd]

I am having trouble printing in WP8 under Linux 2.0 but have no problem
under any other program, eg Netscape. I have a Lexmark
 Optra R+ set to lp  using Printer Create/Edit , then Setup, then
Destination in WP. When I click on Print, WP says the print job has been
queued but the printer does not get fed the file. When I try again, WP
queues the file a second time. When I invoke lpq (to look at the print
queue), it reports the queue empty. My printcap file is

 lp|lex|lex|Lexmark OptraR+:\
  :lp=/dev/lp1:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lex:\
  :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\
  :if=/usr/sbin/ps600-filter:\
  :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:


Just ran lpc status and it reported:

 queuing is enabled
printing is enabled
no entries
no daemon present


No daemon present suggests that may be the problem, but why doesn't it
show up under other programs??

What do I do from here? As you can see, I am a rank newbie. Any
suggestions would be welcome. Thanks.

Albert Hurd

URGENT !!!!!! SYSTEM SERIOUSLY BROKEN

[G. Kapetanios]

Hi all, 

Following  my previous email concerning a deleted root partition the
following has happened. I tried to install debian from the hamm base disks
which I  had in another partition but an error kept coming which did not
permit installation. Both installation from disk and floppies did not
work. I have managed to install a system with a 2.0.29 kernel (bo) Problem
1 the /usr partition contains my old files a df command shows that the
data are still there. But a du /usr shows only the new files from the new
installation. How do I access the old data ? The data are not critical as
they only the debian programs. My personal critical files are in a asecond
disk which I can
access but I rather not mount automatically in case something goes wrong
In the second disk I also haver the hamm debian distribution 
Now I would like to get the usr  stuff working since it is hamm, and I
don't want to have to go through installing libc6 (last time was a
nightmare) how do I go about doing that ?
Please help as I am desperate to get my machine which is critical back in
 some workjing order. 

Any suggestion are welcome 
George 

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Re: Safe rm available?

[Kendall P. Bullen]

On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

> This sounds like a really bad idea (aliasing it to rm). Once you get used
> to having it, you become more careless with the rm command; suddenly
> you're using another box where rm is for real and you've lost real work.

This is a fallacy.  (Or maybe Unix geeks aren't as smart as DOS
geeks?)  I set up something of my own and am no more nor less likely
to delete the wrong file.  Despite DOS's undelete, Norton's unerase,
Novell's salvage, and my own version under Linux -- I haven't shot
myself in the foot in eons.  I haven't even had to go to my .trash
directory in a long time.  I only go there occasionally to clean it
out.

Kendall :-)

Iomega Ditto Max and LINUX?

[Kent Andersen]

Is there any drivers available for the ditto Max tape drive for linux or
more to the point is there anyway I can make it work under Linux???

Thanks

Kent

Multi-partitions

[Adrian Gudas]

Okay, this is a bit of a newbie question. You've been warned...

I haven't installed Linux yet, but I'm going to as soon as my CD's arrive in
the mail. I'm pretty well-versed with the setup procedures (after having
read the installation instructions 100 times while on the john -- yes, I
have no life).

I'm still a bit confused, however, with the way it handles partitions. Am I
supposed to use DOS fdisk to partition and format a DOS partition, and then
run Debian's install, partitioning "sub-partitions" under the non-DOS
partition that I've created earlier? Or will Debian's installation let me
set up a "DOS" partition for me to boot and format later?

And then, how will I be able to tell what operating system installs into
what partition, and what the MBR will reflect? Help...

Adrian

problems with libc6-dev?

[Mrpeabody]

I did an apt-get update and I got a package error with libc6-dev anyone
else get this?
-jeff

setup script?

[Vincent Murphy]

Hello all.
It is my intention to set up a lab of PCs here at my college to dual-boot
Debian and NT. I have some questions related to setting up Debian on all
these machines, in such a way that they are all identical.

My basic strategy at the moment is to configure a `prototype' machine first,
with the desired NIS/NFS setup, X, network support, KDE etc. Then I want to
make a mirror image of this hard drive and copy it onto other machines using
some third-party commercial software from PowerQuest or Quarterdeck.
(Aside: Can I do this any other way with open software?)

For this to work, I have to configure this prototype machine in such a way
that it doesn't know its own IP address when it's booting, and has to be
told what it is. I know this is possible, I'm just not sure how to do it.

regards,
vinny

Re: ppp problems..using EZPPP...

[Christopher Barry]

EZPPP is really something for Slackware people that can't figure out how
to make all the different scripts, but are simply too cool to use
something like Debian that automates routine work for you. If you're
using Debian Hamm or newer, as root type 'pppconfig'. Every system
should come with this installed. It's really, really easy to use.

Christopher


Person, Rod wrote:
> 
> Hey again,
> 
> I don't know about this one
> 
> I installed EZPPP and it worked fine, except the ppp connection died
> before I could figure out why mozilla could find the server. But here is
> my porblem...
> 
> Now it doesn't dial my modem! I did nothing to it just turned the
> machine of for the night. Turn it on the next day and it's dead.
> It initializes the modem, gets the ok from the modem then when it is
> suppose to dial it tells me that it expects a connect signal. I really
> can't figure out why it would dial. I changed dial scripts to that used
> by wvdial (wvdial works..dial connects..but dies) but that did nothing.
> Ezppp did dial connect and hold the connection for 5 minutes or so when
> I first installed but now it doesn't dial WHY?
> 
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Re: pap-secrets

[Eugene Sevinian]

Hi again,
I tried to add an '*' as a fourth field, but results remains thee same.
I got "bla-bla check your password". However, thanks for your advice.
Is there any other ideas?   Eugene.

On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:

> The new ppp requires that you have a fourth field for acceptable IP 
> addresses. Also,
> you *must* have an entry in pap-secrets (a wildcard entry at least) even if 
> you're
> authenticating against your regular password database (as your options shows 
> you are).
> Just put in '*' as the fourth field of the appropriate entry in pap-secrets 
> and you
> should be good.
> 
> Eugene Sevinian wrote:
> 
> > Hi All,
> > Playing with ppp I have found that It is impossible to connect
> > from w95 box into linux if there exist /etc/pap/pap-secrets file.
> > Everything is ok when I delete this file. It looks like w95 can not use
> > PAP. Is it true? Or there are possible errors in /etc/ppp/options? As I
> > understand the main propose of pap-secrets is to restrict some users to
> > login via ppp. How can I impose these restrictions without secrets??

Re: debian 2.0.2 cd from lsl

[King Lee]

Hello,
I was about to order the debian 2.0 version from LSL, but noticed
they were selling Debian 2.0.2.  The Debian News does not mention
a 2.0.2 version, so is this a beta version? what's going on?

Thanks in advance.
King Lee

dselect package list upgrade

[Mark Fardal]

Hi,

I have had my linux box (Debian Linux 2.0.33) for six months, but am 
only now trying to use dselect.  The package I wanted was not listed
in the package list, so I figured I needed to upgrade the list.

When trying to set up the ftp method of accesssing packages, I get a warning
message:

   Enter space seperated list of distributions to get
   [stable non-free contrib unstable]: 
   
   Connecting to ftp.debian.org...
   Login as anonymous...
   Setting transfer mode to binary...
   Cd to /debian...
   Checking stable/binary-i386...
   Warning: Could not find a Packages file in stable/binary-i386
   This may not be a problem if the directory is a symbolic link
   Checking non-free/binary-i386...
   Warning: Could not find a Packages file in non-free/binary-i386
   This may not be a problem if the directory is a symbolic link
   Checking contrib/binary-i386...
   Warning: Could not find a Packages file in contrib/binary-i386
   This may not be a problem if the directory is a symbolic link
   Checking unstable/binary-i386...
   Warning: Could not find a Packages file in unstable/binary-i386
   This may not be a problem if the directory is a symbolic link
   Closing ftp connection...
   Press return to continue

When trying to upgrade, I get this:

   Getting Packages files...(stop with ^C)
   
   Connecting to ftp.debian.org...
   Login as anonymous...
   Setting transfer mode to binary...
   Cd to /debian...
   Getting Packages file from stable/binary-i386...
   Could not find Packages[.gz] in stable/binary-i386, stoppedFTP ERROR
   
   update available list script returned error exit status 1.
   Press RETURN to continue.


When I try a direct ftp to ftp.debian.org and go to dists/stable,
which apparently equals /ac121/linux/distributions/debian/hamm, there
is no binary-i386 file present.  This is presumably the problem.  I
think the file named ...debian/hamm/hamm/binary-i386/Packages.gz is
what I need.  Is the link on the ftp site incorrect?  Or do I need to
change something in my dselect access options?

thanks,
Mark Fardal
UMass

Re: jdk: Can't find class...

[Thomas Apel]

Thomas Apel wrote:
> 
> The problem is the following:
> 
> $ java HelloWorld.class

Of course I should have typed "java HelloWorld" without ".class"!
Sorry, I guess I should go to bed now.

Thomas

Re: pap-secrets

[Jens B. Jorgensen]

The new ppp requires that you have a fourth field for acceptable IP addresses. 
Also,
you *must* have an entry in pap-secrets (a wildcard entry at least) even if 
you're
authenticating against your regular password database (as your options shows 
you are).
Just put in '*' as the fourth field of the appropriate entry in pap-secrets and 
you
should be good.

Eugene Sevinian wrote:

> Hi All,
> Playing with ppp I have found that It is impossible to connect
> from w95 box into linux if there exist /etc/pap/pap-secrets file.
> Everything is ok when I delete this file. It looks like w95 can not use
> PAP. Is it true? Or there are possible errors in /etc/ppp/options? As I
> understand the main propose of pap-secrets is to restrict some users to
> login via ppp. How can I impose these restrictions without secrets??
>
> Any  tips?
>
> Below some info which might help to understand what is going on.
>
> Thanks,
> Eugene
>
> Here is fragment from ppp.log:
>
>  Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1
>  sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 0xe5ad3246]
>  rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 0xe5ad3246]
>  rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x3   
>  ]
>  sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x3 < 0d 03 06>]
>  sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 0xe5ad3246]
>  rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x4   
> ]
>  sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x4   
> ]
>  rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 0xe5ad3246]
>  rcvd [PAP AuthReq id=0x1 user="sevinian" password="mypasswd"]
>  PAP authentication failure for sevinian
>  sent [PAP AuthNak id=0x1msg="Login incorrect"]
>  sent [LCP TermReq id=0x2]
>  rcvd [LCP TermAck id=0x2]
>  Connection terminated.
>
> /etc/ppp/options:
>
> dns-addr 194.x.x.x
> asyncmap 0
> auth
> crtscts
> lock
> modem
> mru 542
> +pap
> debug
> domain yerphi.am
> remotename xyz
> proxyarp
> login
> lcp-echo-interval 60
> lcp-echo-failure 4
> pap-restart 3
> pap-max-authreq 3
>
> /etc/ppp/pap-secrets:
>
> *   xyz  ""
>
> Eugene Sevinian
>
> 
> CRD, YerPhI, 375036, Armenia
> URL: http://crdlx5.yerphi.am/
> Phone: 374-2-344873
>
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Re: Problem using vi in telnet session

[Steve Lamb]

On Tue, 06 Oct 1998 08:19:09 -0400, Jeff Miller wrote:

>I recently took a class on Unix and we used Win95 machines to Telnet into 
>our server and vi acted "weird."  The instructor acknowledged this and said 
>that there was nothing we could do.  I would suggest using a Windoze X 
>Client software in place of Telnet.  We use Exceed and it works well.  
>There may be something available that is "free" but I don't know.  

Tera Term works quite well in conjunction with Screen.  The telnet that
came with Windows is lousy emulation and should not be used except in extreme
cases.

-- 
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 ICQ: 5107343  | main connection to the switchboard of souls.
---+-

Kernel compiled help?

[Person, Rod]

I got my kernel compiled, I choose sound but still none the. How do I
know if its working or not? I got this sound card out of an IBM aptiva
dx66...I'm testing it to see if it works (it was my dads, I gave him my
card that does work).

I tried /dev/sndstat

and got a permission denied message...as root.

ppp problems..using EZPPP...

[Person, Rod]

Hey again,

I don't know about this one

I installed EZPPP and it worked fine, except the ppp connection died
before I could figure out why mozilla could find the server. But here is
my porblem...

Now it doesn't dial my modem! I did nothing to it just turned the
machine of for the night. Turn it on the next day and it's dead.
It initializes the modem, gets the ok from the modem then when it is
suppose to dial it tells me that it expects a connect signal. I really
can't figure out why it would dial. I changed dial scripts to that used
by wvdial (wvdial works..dial connects..but dies) but that did nothing.
Ezppp did dial connect and hold the connection for 5 minutes or so when
I first installed but now it doesn't dial WHY?

Re: NIS/NFS packages?

[Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira]

Hi,
install the nis and netbase packages.
The NFS is just mount -t nfs server_directory client_directory
But you have to start /etc/init.d/netstd_nfs at server and client.
NIS is bit more dificult.
Tomorrow I wrote more to you. 
I didn't have time now.
Best regards,   Paulo Henrique

Re: pap-secrets

[Peter Iannarelli]

Hello:

In my pap-secrets I have the following

# INBOUND connections

# Every regular user can use PPP and has to use passwords from /etc/passwd
#*  moose   ""  *
*   *   ""  *

Peter


-Original Message-
From: Eugene Sevinian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Date: Tuesday, October 06, 1998 2:08 PM
Subject: pap-secrets


>Hi All,
>Playing with ppp I have found that It is impossible to connect
>from w95 box into linux if there exist /etc/pap/pap-secrets file.
>Everything is ok when I delete this file. It looks like w95 can not use
>PAP. Is it true? Or there are possible errors in /etc/ppp/options? As I
>understand the main propose of pap-secrets is to restrict some users to
>login via ppp. How can I impose these restrictions without secrets??
>
>Any  tips?
>
>Below some info which might help to understand what is going on.
>
>Thanks,
> Eugene
>
>Here is fragment from ppp.log:
>
> Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1
> sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x10xe5ad3246]
> rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x10xe5ad3246]
> rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x3   
> ]
> sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x3 < 0d 03 06>]
> sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x10xe5ad3246]
> rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x4   
>]
> sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x4   
>]
> rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x10xe5ad3246]
> rcvd [PAP AuthReq id=0x1 user="sevinian" password="mypasswd"]
> PAP authentication failure for sevinian
> sent [PAP AuthNak id=0x1msg="Login incorrect"]
> sent [LCP TermReq id=0x2]
> rcvd [LCP TermAck id=0x2]
> Connection terminated.
>
>/etc/ppp/options:
>
>dns-addr 194.x.x.x
>asyncmap 0
>auth
>crtscts
>lock
>modem
>mru 542
>+pap
>debug
>domain yerphi.am
>remotename xyz
>proxyarp
>login
>lcp-echo-interval 60
>lcp-echo-failure 4
>pap-restart 3
>pap-max-authreq 3
>
>/etc/ppp/pap-secrets:
>
>*   xyz  ""
>
>
>
>Eugene Sevinian
>
>
>CRD, YerPhI, 375036, Armenia
>URL: http://crdlx5.yerphi.am/
>Phone: 374-2-344873
>
>
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>
>

Re: FW: PPP Errors

[Martin Bialasinski]

>> "ECO" == Erik Ch Ohrnberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

ECO> Oct  6 01:26:50 linux486 chat[3194]: Password:
ECO> Oct  6 01:26:50 linux486 chat[3194]:  -- got it
ECO> Oct  6 01:26:50 linux486 chat[3194]: send (^M)
ECO> Oct  6 01:26:51 linux486 chat[3194]: send (\d^M)
ECO> Oct  6 01:26:52 linux486 chat[3194]: send (\d^M)
ECO> Oct  6 01:26:53 linux486 pppd[3193]: Serial connection established.
ECO> Oct  6 01:26:54 linux486 pppd[3193]: Using interface ppp0
ECO> Oct  6 01:26:54 linux486 pppd[3193]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS3
ECO> Oct  6 01:27:05 linux486 kernel: Appletalk 0.17 for Linux NET3.035
ECO> Oct  6 01:28:24 linux486 pppd[3193]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
ECO> Oct  6 01:28:24 linux486 pppd[3193]: Connection terminated.
ECO> Oct  6 01:28:24 linux486 pppd[3193]: Receive serial link is not 8-bit 
clean:
ECO> Oct  6 01:28:24 linux486 pppd[3193]: Problem: all had bit 7 set to 1

This usually indicates, that the remote server still is at the
prompt. Check the script in Windows 95, if there is a line after
sending the password.

ECO> set port databits 7
ECO> set port parity even
ECO> transmit "^M"
ECO> waitfor "Host Name:"
ECO> transmit "x^M"
ECO> waitfor "UIC:"
ECO> transmit $USERID
ECO> transmit "^M"
ECO> waitfor "Password: "
ECO> transmit $PASSWORD
ECO> transmit "^M"

waitfor ":" # Maybe ">" or such. Depends on the prompt, the
# server uses.
transmit "ppp"  # This will send "ppp" and start ppp mode
transmit "^M"

ECO> set port databits 8
ECO> set port parity none

Ciao,
Martin

NIS/NFS packages?

[Vincent Murphy]

I want to set up one debian box as a NIS server and sharing a directory as
NFS, and another to share its passwords and mount the shared dir off the
other. What packages do I have to install? Any other advice? 

regards,
vinny

Re: Why I have probelm starting KDE??

[Geoffrey L. Brimhall]

Now I feel bad !

Don't mean to be too critical, but ldconfig would not make linux unbootable
unless you had messed around with the location of certain critical dynamic libs.

Did you modify around with /etc/ld.so.conf, or move around any of the libs in
/usr/lib, /lib, or /usr/local/lib ? If so, this could definately be a bit of a
pain to get your system working correctly again.

On 07-Oct-98 Chan Min Wai wrote:
> Now I can run the Kde with startx but
> 
> Now I cannot boot Linux...
> 
> 
> Wah ...Sad case
> 
> Geoffrey L. Brimhall wrote:
> 
>> When I installed kde, all I had to get it working correctly was log in as
>> root
>> and execute:
>>
>> ldconfig
>>
>> Then everthing worked correctly
>>
>> On 04-Oct-98 Chan Min Wai wrote:
>> > I have asked so many question and doing alot of change but... my kde
>> > still not wrking I wonder if it is my system problem..
>> >
>> > Can anyone help me... When I start the KDE I get this message...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
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>> Date: 04-Oct-98
>> Time: 04:47:03
>>
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pap-secrets

[Eugene Sevinian]

Hi All, 
Playing with ppp I have found that It is impossible to connect
from w95 box into linux if there exist /etc/pap/pap-secrets file.
Everything is ok when I delete this file. It looks like w95 can not use
PAP. Is it true? Or there are possible errors in /etc/ppp/options? As I
understand the main propose of pap-secrets is to restrict some users to
login via ppp. How can I impose these restrictions without secrets?? 

Any  tips?

Below some info which might help to understand what is going on.

Thanks,
Eugene

Here is fragment from ppp.log:
   
 Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1
 sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 
 ]
 sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x3 < 0d 03 06>]
 sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1  
]
 sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x4   
]
 rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1http://crdlx5.yerphi.am/
Phone: 374-2-344873

lowmem installation trouble

[Nathan Hendler]

I am trying to install Debian on my 386 w/ 4Megs of RAM and hercules
video.  Using the lowmem.bin image, here is what happens... 

boot: [I hit Enter.]
Loading lowmemrd.bin ...

That's as far as she goes.  It hangs there, all night.  I have to hard
reboot.  Using the resc1440.bin image I get...

SYSLINUX 1.40-2.1 [etc...]
Boot failed

Using the lowmemrd.bin image I get...

[beep]

Nothing at all, no error, and I have to hard reboot.  Using the root.bin
image gets me the same result.

Ok, obviously I don't know a whole lot about what I am doing.  Can anyone
help me out?  I've installed FreeBSD and Linux before, but always on more
modern systems with CDROMs.

Thanks,
Nathan Hendler

Re: Sound Blaster

[Ed Cogburn]

Jeff Miller wrote:
> 
> I am running the latest Debian release.  My CD-ROM is connected to my Sound 
> Blaster 16 and was detected with no problem.  I don't have sound, though, and 
> I am not sure what to do about it.  Do I really have to recompile the Kernel 
> to support my sound card?  Or, can I configure it as a module.  So far, I 
> haven't needed to recompile the Kernel for anything and I'm not sure I want 
> to start now.  Any suggestions?
> 
> TIA
> 


You'll need to recompile the kernel regardless;  whether you build
sound into the kernel or as a module, you have to recompile to tell the
kernel/module the necessary parameters like the IRQ or DMA channel of
your card.
Also check to see if your card is a PnP type card.  If so, you'll need
to setup the 'isapnp' package.  Exception: some modern BIOSs can
initialize PnP cards at bootup (this is my case).

-- 
Ed C.

Re: Fax Software

[Mike Schmitz]

On Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 11:47:13AM -0400, David Frye wrote:
> Can anyone tell me of a good fax software package for Linux. I see that
> they have an efax, hylafax, and mgetty-fax. Which of these is the
> easiest and most reliable to use?

I used to use efax. It has one shell script that does everything. If you
understand shell scripting, it is pretty easy. I switched to mgetty because
it does a lot more. With vgetty, you have voice, fax, & data all in one
package. Drawback: It only works with class 2 or 2.0. No class 1. Hylafax 
I was never able to get running, but I haven't tried it in a couple of years.

-- 
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  Don't blame me - I voted libertarian!http://www.lp.org/ 
  Use Debian Linux - the free Gnu/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/
  ---
 "If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption" 

jdk: Can't find class...

[Thomas Apel]

The problem is the following:

$ java HelloWorld.class
Can't find class HelloWorld.class

As far as I understand the java_wrapper script even "./" should be in
the CLASSPATH. But why doesn't this work then? When I make the .class
executable and add the "binfmt_java" module to the kernel I can execute
it. And I think "java ...class" worked before I first used the
"binfmt_java" module, but I'm not sure about that.

Any clues what's wrong here?

TIA,
Thomas

Re: Can't load library

[Sudhakar Chandrasekharan]

Ken Archer wrote:
> Trying to get Netscape 4.5b2 up and running on Debian 2.0, I get
> the error message that:
> 
> Netscape: cannot load library "libXpm.so.4"
> I have the same Netscape running fine on a Suse 5.2 partition with libXpm.so.4
> installed in the same default directory (/usr/X11R6/lib).  

Did you run ldconfig after libXpm was installed? 

$ ldconfig -p | grep libXpm

should tell you if libXpm is being "seen".

Also, 

$ ldd /usr/bin/netscape 

should list the libraries needed by the netscape binary (replace
/usr/bin/netscape with whatever is approriate for your installation) and
whether they are found in the system.

> I have used
> Slackware, Red Hat, Suse and now Debian.  I had no idea there was so much
> difference between the setup on Debian and the other dist.  I would appreciate
> a well placed nudge in the right direction.

Hope that is not a well placed nudge in the direction of Netscape. ;-)

S.
-- 
 "I can't believe you didn't invite me.  After I painted those cool
 stripes all over your car."
   -- Homer J. Simpson
Sudhakar C13n   http://people.netscape.com/thaths/   Indentured Slave

Re: Netscape and libXt.so.6

[Ed Cogburn]

Michael Dahlberg wrote:
> 
> Could anyone help me out with this problem?
> 
> I installed Netscape Navigator 4.06 (base install, not Communicator) on
> Debian 2.0 (kernel 2.0.34) in /usr/local/netscape according to Netscape's
> installation instructions.  I try to run the executable but I get the
> message: "/usr/local/netscape/netscape : can not load libXt.so.6".  The
> library libXt.so.6 is on my system (in /usr/X11R6/lib) and the path is
> referenced in /etc/ld.co.conf.  I tried running "/sbin/ldconfig -v |less"
> and there were no errors, however, libXt.so.6 "points" to libXt.so.6.0.
> 
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
> Mike Dahlberg
> 


The other responses talk about getting the old libc5 packages on your
system in order to use the binary you have, which is ok.  However, it
may actually be easier to get the libc6 (glibc) version of Netscape from
ftp.netscape.com.  I'm running that libc6 version of NS 4.06 right now.


-- 
Ed C.

Re: Fax Software

[Jens B. Jorgensen]

I've actually found efax to be more robust than sendfax (from mgetty-fax) but 
I've
never tried to use hylafax. There was some configuration involved with efax but 
efax
can handle Class 1 operation which sendfax can't (at least not the version I 
used).
This may or may not be an issue for you.

Bob Nielsen wrote:

> On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, David Frye wrote:
>
> > Can anyone tell me of a good fax software package for Linux. I see that
> > they have an efax, hylafax, and mgetty-fax. Which of these is the
> > easiest and most reliable to use?
>
> I've been pretty happy with hylafax, although the version in slink doesn't
> seem to initialize my modem (USR Sportster) properly so I went back to the
> hamm version. I could never get efax to work.  I couldn't get faxgetty to
> run and still work with data, so I got a second modem (as far as I can
> tell, this is more a modem problem than a software problem although it did
> work in Win95--ugh).
>
> Bob

--
Jens B. Jorgensen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

dhcpcd probs

[Peter Gruber]

Hi all

I have some problems using the dhcpcd package on my systemI worked fine, 
until my university decided to put up an firewall (everything can go out, but
no port connections in) in front of us. Apparently the DHCP-server isn´t on my
side.

Has anyone some ideas to solve the problem ? (there is also a bootpc-server on
the other side, and my bootpc-client works)

 Thanks in advance for your help.

Re: What causes single user boot?

[Kent West]

At 09:10 PM 10/6/1998 +1300, Michael Beattie wrote:
>On Mon, 5 Oct 1998,  Raymond A. Ingles wrote:
>
>>  Sincerely,
>> 
>>  Ray Ingles   (248)377-7735   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Free Stereogram!
>> Try to make the two "O"s in the next row look like three:
>>   OO
>> n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n
>> ffffffffffffff
>> e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e
>> aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>> a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a
>> rrrrrrrrrrrrrr
>> r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r
>
>
>Now that, folks, has class.. Cool Ray :)
>

I kept focusing on the row with "O"s in it and never could see anything.
Finally I gave up on that and just looked at the body like I would any
other stereogram. Weigh Kule!


Kent West, Technology Support
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Abilene Christian Univ., Abilene, TX
915-674-2557  FAX: 915.674.6724
Amateur Radio: KC5ENO
Debian Linux: Ride the wave with the penguins!

FW: PPP Errors

[Erik Ch. Ohrnberger]

Dear fellow Debian users,
I'm having a little bit of trouble in establishing a PPP connection to 
my
ISP, Sprynet.  I have been watching the PPP questions in this forum, and
have adopted the wait 1 second (\d) statements at the end of the script
after a successful connection in order to provide the IPS side time to get
ready for PPP LCP.

However, this appears to not have fixed things up.  Below is the 
messages
log lines that are pertinent to the problem encountered.
--
<... snip previous log lines where chatscript dials phone number, gets
connected, inserts host, user id, and password>
Oct  6 01:26:50 linux486 chat[3194]:  xx^M
Oct  6 01:26:50 linux486 chat[3194]: Password:
Oct  6 01:26:50 linux486 chat[3194]:  -- got it
Oct  6 01:26:50 linux486 chat[3194]: send (^M)
Oct  6 01:26:51 linux486 chat[3194]: send (\d^M)
Oct  6 01:26:52 linux486 chat[3194]: send (\d^M)
Oct  6 01:26:53 linux486 pppd[3193]: Serial connection established.
Oct  6 01:26:54 linux486 pppd[3193]: Using interface ppp0
Oct  6 01:26:54 linux486 pppd[3193]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS3
Oct  6 01:27:05 linux486 kernel: Appletalk 0.17 for Linux NET3.035
Oct  6 01:28:24 linux486 pppd[3193]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
Oct  6 01:28:24 linux486 pppd[3193]: Connection terminated.
Oct  6 01:28:24 linux486 pppd[3193]: Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean:
Oct  6 01:28:24 linux486 pppd[3193]: Problem: all had bit 7 set to 1
Oct  6 01:28:25 linux486 pppd[3193]: Exit.
--

I can, and do connect using Windows NT as well as Windows 95/98, and the
DUN script outline looks like this:

set port databits 7
set port parity even
transmit "^M"
waitfor "Host Name:"
transmit "x^M"
waitfor "UIC:"
transmit $USERID
transmit "^M"
waitfor "Password: "
transmit $PASSWORD
transmit "^M"
set port databits 8
set port parity none

How can I make the chatscript or pppd work the same way?  Is there 
anything
that I can do?  Does anyone have a sample Sprynet script for connecting?
And why is it that Appletalk seems to be wanting to respond to the PPP
connection?

With greatest thanks and appreciation,

Erik.

 
"You use a Windows machine and the golden rule is: Save, and save often,"
Torvalds said. "It's scary how people have grown used to the idea that
computers are unreliable when it is not the computer at all -- it's the
operating system that just doesn't cut it."

Re: Fax Software

[Bob Nielsen]

On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, David Frye wrote:

> Can anyone tell me of a good fax software package for Linux. I see that
> they have an efax, hylafax, and mgetty-fax. Which of these is the
> easiest and most reliable to use?

I've been pretty happy with hylafax, although the version in slink doesn't
seem to initialize my modem (USR Sportster) properly so I went back to the
hamm version. I could never get efax to work.  I couldn't get faxgetty to
run and still work with data, so I got a second modem (as far as I can
tell, this is more a modem problem than a software problem although it did
work in Win95--ugh).

Bob


Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tucson, AZ  AMPRnet:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DM42nh  http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen

Re: cable modem

[Kenneth Scharf]

It really depends on what setup they are using for the service. Here in
Baltimore, we
have the Motorola modems that uses the cable for the back channel, but
I have heard
that in some markets they are using a version that requires a separate
phone line for
the back channel.

If they have the same setup where you live as I've got here, it should
be great. I
just plugged the modem into my network hub and bought an extra IP for
my wife's
system.

Steve Rothanburg

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pgplot examples for c ?

[Jan Krupa]

I have installed the debian package pgplot*.deb,
but there are available in that package only examples
for fortran (f77). I cannot find such examples for c.
 It is possible to get the needed examples for c without
rebuilding (recompiling) the package from resources ?

Thanks in advance,

Jan

Graphics card Matrox Productiva AGP

[Kenneth Scharf]

Hi,

my new PC has a Matrox Productiva AGP graphics card, and I'm 
installing Debian on it. There doesn't seem to be a xserver in hamm or 
slink by now -- or is anybody running X-win on such a beast?

I know that SuSe has developped a special server for the Productiva,
but how to install this one in a Debian system?

-
The SuSe server would be compiled against libc5, while debian is libc6
so the SuSe server might not work.  You could get the source and
rebuild it locally on your system to install it.  Just put the
resulting binary in the same directory as the debian supplied servers
and modify ../X11/Xserver (I think).
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I would even be satisfied with an existing server with fewer
capabilities, it's only important that I can work in X-win with Xemacs 
and some tcl-apps. I've tried with the VGA16-server, but it only
showed a black monitor.

Any help appreciated,
thanks,
joachim




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Re: WHERE NETSCAPE4

[Chan Min Wai]

Hai,
you need to download netscape 4.0x from netscape server the put it in the 
/tmp dir
(make a backup it will be delete after it reboot)

now run dselect put in your CD (Contrib) in the cd rom the choose the 
access mode
to cdrom then choose the path
(forgeten I think 2 and 3 ) to the following path:

/debian/hamm/contrib/binary-i386

update the pakages and noe choose netscape4 from the contrib/Web

now it will start to install the netscape

FINISH...

BOB'S MAIL wrote:

> PRECISELY, where can I get the 'netscape4' package.
>
> I have Debian 2.0 CD's.
>
> 1.  Where on WHAT CD (Source, Contrib, Binary)?
>
> 2.  What FTP site and URL?
>
> TIA,
>
> Bob Barth
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Re: Gnome

[Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira]

Search in unstable section (slink directory).
I have Gnome 0.30 installed and running in my machine.
Have a nice day,Paulo Henrique

On Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 06:01:59PM +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote:
> Hi all!!
> 
> Is Gnome available to download in the Debian FTP site? I have been looking
> for it, nut did not found it.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
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Gnome

[Rodrigo Moya]

Hi all!!

Is Gnome available to download in the Debian FTP site? I have been looking
for it, nut did not found it.

Thanks

RE: HELP! how does Debian allocate scsi drives?

[Lewis, James M.]

I didn't catch the beginning of this thread.  Did anyone mention
possible changes in scsi termination???

jim

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Subject:Re: HELP! how does Debian allocate scsi drives?

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HELP! how does Debian allocate scsi drives?
Newsgroups: linux.debian.user
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Organization: Albert Heijn Winkelautomatisering
Cc: 
Bcc: 

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write:
>
>Now when I reboot the scsi controller sees the scsi drives on both 
>its channels (its an Adaptec 3940 which has two channels).  
>Debian seems to reset the controller successfully on both 
>channels but the boot up fsck reports that three of my drives aren't 
>there as ext2 filesystems.  I'm pretty sure they're all on the same 
>(second) channel and that that's the channel where the cdrom 
>came out so I'd like to think the explanation is that removing the 
>cdrom has thrown the mapping from scsi device ids to /dev 
>mounts.  

This is not debian-specific, it's linux kernel specific.
Anyway:

scsi cdroms are in a different namespace from scsi disks, so adding or
removing scsi cdroms will not in any way change the naming of the scsi
disks.

>I can't get into the machine to check documentation and I can't see 
>enough detail in "Running Linux" to know if this is the case and, if 
>so, how to fix it.  However, that does read as if linux scans through 
>the scsi devices allocating /dev/sda /dev/sdb etc sequentially rather 
>than hard mapping to a scsi id.  If so, maybe removing the cdrom 

True, linux allocates the first scsi disk it sees to /dev/sda, etc.

>has thrown the mapping and I should be able to get in as root and 
>hack the mapping (is it in /etc/fstab?) and correct the problem.  
>(Seems odd as it allocates cdroms and rw drives separately but ...)
>
>If not, what's happening?!  I can't see that there's likely to have 
>been a major destruction of the file system on all three drives 
>particularly given that the controller verifies them happily!

You haven't changed the ribbon cables around in replacing the
motherboard, and then maybe changed the boot order in the Adaptec
setup? It will then boot up from the first disk on the second channel
(hence find the kernel), however, linux will still scan the channels
in the same order (i.e. first channel A and then channel B). The order
is hence changed...

>_ANY_ hints, help, thwacks over the head for stupidity gratefully 
>received.  

I'm holding back on thwacks for the moment :-)


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Fax Software

[David Frye]

Can anyone tell me of a good fax software package for Linux. I see that
they have an efax, hylafax, and mgetty-fax. Which of these is the
easiest and most reliable to use?

Re: KDE and qt

[Noah L. Meyerhans]

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On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, mbanck wrote:

> 2. using the qt-rh5.1-binaries.
> seconds I tried to use the binaries for redhat 5.1 with alien. Unfortunately, 
> alien makes a 'qt'-Package instead of a 'qt1g'-Package required by KDE.
> Is there a way to rename packages I have overseen by screening the mans? Or 
> is there a simple work-around for this problem?

Why not just install qt1g and qt1g-dev?  Debian format, so no alien or
other voodoo is involved, and they work.  They're somewhere in non-free.
You can probably find them by searching the Debian packages from the web
site.

noah


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Re: KDE and qt

[E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)]

> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am trying to install KDE 1.0 (BTW, I haven't found it in Hamm, is that t=
> rue?).
> The problem is the qt-library. I got two choices to install it but both do=
> n't work:
> 
> 1. compiling the sources.

> 2. using the qt-rh5.1-binaries.

3. Install the debian packages.

They are in the contrib and non-free sections of the debian
distribution, and therefore not included in the official CD's.  You can
download them from any of the debian sites though.

HTH,
Eric

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Re: HELP! how does Debian allocate scsi drives?

[Paul Slootman]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HELP! how does Debian allocate scsi drives?
Newsgroups: linux.debian.user
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Organization: Albert Heijn Winkelautomatisering
Cc: 
Bcc: 

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write:
>
>Now when I reboot the scsi controller sees the scsi drives on both 
>its channels (its an Adaptec 3940 which has two channels).  
>Debian seems to reset the controller successfully on both 
>channels but the boot up fsck reports that three of my drives aren't 
>there as ext2 filesystems.  I'm pretty sure they're all on the same 
>(second) channel and that that's the channel where the cdrom 
>came out so I'd like to think the explanation is that removing the 
>cdrom has thrown the mapping from scsi device ids to /dev 
>mounts.  

This is not debian-specific, it's linux kernel specific.
Anyway:

scsi cdroms are in a different namespace from scsi disks, so adding or
removing scsi cdroms will not in any way change the naming of the scsi
disks.

>I can't get into the machine to check documentation and I can't see 
>enough detail in "Running Linux" to know if this is the case and, if 
>so, how to fix it.  However, that does read as if linux scans through 
>the scsi devices allocating /dev/sda /dev/sdb etc sequentially rather 
>than hard mapping to a scsi id.  If so, maybe removing the cdrom 

True, linux allocates the first scsi disk it sees to /dev/sda, etc.

>has thrown the mapping and I should be able to get in as root and 
>hack the mapping (is it in /etc/fstab?) and correct the problem.  
>(Seems odd as it allocates cdroms and rw drives separately but ...)
>
>If not, what's happening?!  I can't see that there's likely to have 
>been a major destruction of the file system on all three drives 
>particularly given that the controller verifies them happily!

You haven't changed the ribbon cables around in replacing the
motherboard, and then maybe changed the boot order in the Adaptec
setup? It will then boot up from the first disk on the second channel
(hence find the kernel), however, linux will still scan the channels
in the same order (i.e. first channel A and then channel B). The order
is hence changed...

>_ANY_ hints, help, thwacks over the head for stupidity gratefully 
>received.  

I'm holding back on thwacks for the moment :-)


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Re: Why I have probelm starting KDE??

[Chan Min Wai]

Now I can run the Kde with startx but

Now I cannot boot Linux...


Wah ...Sad case

Geoffrey L. Brimhall wrote:

> When I installed kde, all I had to get it working correctly was log in as root
> and execute:
>
> ldconfig
>
> Then everthing worked correctly
>
> On 04-Oct-98 Chan Min Wai wrote:
> > I have asked so many question and doing alot of change but... my kde
> > still not wrking I wonder if it is my system problem..
> >
> > Can anyone help me... When I start the KDE I get this message...
> >
> >
> >
>
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> Time: 04:47:03
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Re: Need help with Internet connection ISDN.

[Paul Slootman]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write:
>After hours of reading howto's and scratching my head I finally got Debian
>to recognise my Teles 16.3 ISDN-card. It works, and I can call myself
>between two TTY's with minicom. Talking to myself is quite boring in the
>long run, and I just can't figure out how to connect to my ISP. Does anyone
>know about some straight forward recepies for this ?. I am VERY newbie with
>Linux, and or Unix. Don't know how to do this with an ordinary modem either.
>Please help.

Have you installed the 'isdnutils' package? When you install that,
it offers to run the 'isdnconfig' script which can create some basic
example config files which only need minimal tweaking to connect to
most ISPs.


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Re: moving "/" sda4 --> sdb1

[Paul Slootman]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write:
>On Sun, 4 Oct 1998, John Leget wrote:
>
> : greetings,
> : 
> : I need to move debian from drive 1 to drive 2 ( just deep sixed NT >;0)
> : ), what are the steps necessary.
>
>login as root
>
>mke2fs /dev/sdb1
>mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
>cd /
>find . -xdev | cpio -padm /mnt
>umount /mnt
>vi /etc/fstab
>reboot

No, you also need to tell lilo to pass "root=/dev/sdb1" as parameter
(and probably to boot the kernel on /dev/sdb1 as well, else there
will be surprises when /dev/sda4 gets recycled).


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Sound Blaster

[Jeff Miller]

I am running the latest Debian release.  My CD-ROM is connected to my Sound 
Blaster 16 and was detected with no problem.  I don't have sound, though, and I 
am not sure what to do about it.  Do I really have to recompile the Kernel to 
support my sound card?  Or, can I configure it as a module.  So far, I haven't 
needed to recompile the Kernel for anything and I'm not sure I want to start 
now.  Any suggestions?

TIA

Re: ISDN: HOW TO start?

[Paul Slootman]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write:
>
>I have a new Debian 2.0 distribution running well. I have recompiled the
>kernel with PCMCIA and ISDN support, bought an AVM Fritz! PCMCIA card,

I don't think that the AVM Fritz! PCMCIA card is supported.
Have you managed to get the kernel (i.e. the hisax driver) to see it?

>Can anybody post a detailed list of the actions he/she took to get an
>ISDN connection done starting from scratch?

As noted elsewhere, install isdnutils, and use the 'isdnconfig' script
that is offered during the install. After configuring the syncPPP
interface, you need to edit the example files the script generates (it
also says which files those are).

Of course, if you can't get the kernel to recognize the card, it's
pointless to install isdnutils...


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Re: need pop3 mail client that leaves mail on server

[Richard E. Hawkins Esq.]

> Richard E. Hawkins Esq. writes:
> > I have managed to get my low-speed ppp connection (about 6k max) running.
 
> Congratulatons!  What did it take?

just about everything blocked :)

There is physical hardware flow control, for bit 7 both hi & lo, and I 
don't know what others are screwy.  Plus I'm coming in through telnet.  
so the combination of default-asyncmaap and escape 93,91,11,13,ff blcok 
nearly everything. 

> > The connection itself is stable, but text sessions are not; they seem to
> > hang.

> You may want tp mess around with the asyncmap and escape options.

There's not much left to block :)  I suppose I could enter the other 29 
high control characters, and start easing back . . .

And most (all? :) of the credit goes to Jens Jorgensen, who figured 
most of it out.

rick

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Re: Problem using vi in telnet session

[Pann McCuaig]

On Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 01:46:50AM -0700, David Karlin wrote:

> I'm running a hamm system and mostly login through a telnet window on
> my win95 machine (I have only one monitor as of yet).
> 
> When I run vi in the telnet window, I get some strange behavior.  Just
> about no matter which key I press, the screen blanks, and then vi
> begins to save a copy of the file. (BTW, deselect also acts strangely.)

The Win95 telnet client sucks rocks. A freely available solution is
HyperTerminal Private Edition from www.hilgraeve.com (I hope I spelled
that right).

Luck,
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Re: [EDI software]

[Greg Vence]

EDI = Electronic Data Interchange.  It is a layer in Electronic
Commerce.  However, I haven't seen it on Linux, but haven't really
looked either.

Syed Huq wrote:
> 
> Peter,
> 
> Did you mean EDA ?? What is EDI ??
> 

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KDE and qt

[mbanck]

Hello,

I am trying to install KDE 1.0 (BTW, I haven't found it in Hamm, is that true?).
The problem is the qt-library. I got two choices to install it but both don't 
work:

1. compiling the sources.
I am using linux-g++-shared as config and get this output:
#make
cd src/moc; make
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/qt/src/moc'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/qt/src/moc'
cp src/moc/moc bin/moc
cd src; make
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/qt/src'
g++ -c -I/usr/local/qt/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -O2 -fno-strength-reduce 
-O2 -fno-strength-reduce -fPIC -o kernel/qimage.o kernel/qimage.cpp
kernel/qimage.cpp:596: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory
kernel/qimage.cpp:597: X11/Xutil.h: No such file or directory
kernel/qimage.cpp:598: X11/Xos.h: No such file or directory
make[1]: *** [kernel/qimage.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/qt/src'
make: *** [src] Error 2

as a newbie level 2 I guess /usr/X11R6/include/X11/ lacks these X*.h files from 
above. I have just installed the base X-System. What Packages do I need to 
compile qt correctly?

2. using the qt-rh5.1-binaries.
seconds I tried to use the binaries for redhat 5.1 with alien. Unfortunately, 
alien makes a 'qt'-Package instead of a 'qt1g'-Package required by KDE.
Is there a way to rename packages I have overseen by screening the mans? Or is 
there a simple work-around for this problem?

My System is Bo, upgraded to Hamm, a 2.0.35 Kernel and a K6-200MMX.

Thank you for any help,

Michael Banck

slib installation failed

[Paolo M. Pumilia]

Hi all,
I cannot install slib on my debian machine. The reason 
seems obscure to me. Here is the log from dpkg:

> Preparing to replace slib 2c0-3 (using slib_2c0-3.deb) ...
> Unpacking replacement slib ...
> Setting up slib (2c0-3) ...
> guile: Could not find slib/require.scm in  ("/usr/share/guile/site" 
> "/usr/share/guile/1.2" "/usr/share/guile" ".")
> dpkg: error processing slib (--install):
>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
> Errors were encountered while processing:

Maybe somebody can give me help to interpret the above message.
File require.scm is really missing; the whole directory slib is missing really.
Where should i get such file?
Guile libs have been installed, as one can see:
> ii  guile1.21.2-3  Guile, the GNU extension language
> ii  libguile2   1.2-3  Scheme and interpreter libraries for guile
> ii  libguile3   1998.08.24-1   `libguile.so.3' shared libraries for 
> Guile1.

What is missing in my system?

tank you for your suggestions

Paolo Pumilia

File require.scm is really missing; the whole directory slib is missing really.
Where should i get such file?

 cstc -

Re: Fwd: Re: [lug] recompiling kernel and not loosing sound support

[D'jinnie]

I had something of the same problem - turned out that my SB-compatible
card is on IRQ 5 instead of default 7, I change the setting in
/usr/src/linux/drivers/sound/Config.in and all worked well. It could be
something similar, maybe IRQ or DMA conflict...
good luck

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Re: cable modem

[pussy]

> My local cable company is now offering high-speed cable modem service.
> The following excerpt is from their web page Q&A section.  I am running
> Slink with IPV4 (I believe).
> 
> 
> Can I use any TCP/IP stack with @Home? 
> At this time, @Home supports the following: Windows 95, NT workstations,
> and MacOS 7.5.3 with open Transport v. 1.1 or greater TCP/IP stacks. 
> 
> 
> Does anyone think I would have an insurmountable problem using this
> service?
> 

Does anyone know if you can do this in the UK yet?
Skunk Pussy
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http://this.is/Drum&Bass
telnet://skunkpussy.dyn.ml.org:9111

help with fonts in X ?

[Adam Lazur]

I'm failing to see how I can use a particular font in certain X
applications. I installed rasterman's nexus font (available from
enlightenment.org or somewhere similar) as a fixed width font and use
it in my rxvts (rxvt -fn nexus) and it works fine. However, I'd like
to use it in The Gimp, maybe Netscape, and elsewhere possibly
later, but it *never* shows up in the list of fonts even in Netscape
under fixed width fonts. Is there an entry in my XF86Config that I
have to edit to get this font to be listed with the rest of the
default fonts for these applications? It's already in my fontpath as
rxvt finds it with no problems... I think I'm missing a
fundamental X font concept somewhere

.adam

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Re: cable modem

[Steve Rothanburg]

It really depends on what setup they are using for the service. Here in 
Baltimore, we
have the Motorola modems that uses the cable for the back channel, but I have 
heard
that in some markets they are using a version that requires a separate phone 
line for
the back channel.

If they have the same setup where you live as I've got here, it should be 
great. I
just plugged the modem into my network hub and bought an extra IP for my wife's
system.

Steve Rothanburg

Graphics card Matrox Productiva AGP

[Joachim Trinkwitz]

Hi,

my new PC has a Matrox Productiva AGP graphics card, and I'm 
installing Debian on it. There doesn't seem to be a xserver in hamm or 
slink by now -- or is anybody running X-win on such a beast?

I know that SuSe has developped a special server for the Productiva,
but how to install this one in a Debian system?

I would even be satisfied with an existing server with fewer
capabilities, it's only important that I can work in X-win with Xemacs 
and some tcl-apps. I've tried with the VGA16-server, but it only
showed a black monitor.

Any help appreciated,
thanks,
joachim

Re: DontZap zaps...(X problem)

[Colin Telmer]

On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, Akop Pogosian wrote:

> I wonder if there is a way to prevent X server from being killed by the
> CTRL-ALT-backspace keystroke. I know that putting "DontZap" in
> XF86Config would do that on redhat. The Debian docs say the same thing.
> However, this "DontZap" method does not work here, I am using Debian
> 2.0. Any one got ideas ?


Works for me:

Section "ServerFlags"
   DontZap
EndSection

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about update command

[Sakai Atsushi]

I have a question about update command.
The document "The Linux Kernel" v0.8-2 page 115

# update -d 

is written but I cannot found the command w/ -d option.

I want to see the buffer parameter like

bdflush version 1.4
0:60 Max fraction of LRU list to examine for dirty blocks
.
 
Do you know the command to see buffer daemon parameter?

A.Sakai

Re: Ax25-utils crash , Help me !

[Karl F. Larsen]

Hi Tony, just a good guess based on the fact that ALL of Linux
crashes. It sounds very much like a Hardware failure. As a rule software
will not crash Linux. Now the z8530 hardware is capable of bringing down
Linux if it fails. So suggest you look at the driver software first and
then the actual x8530 hardware last. Check hardware by removing/replacing
for a check.

On Mon, 5 Oct 1998, Tony Schonfeld wrote:

> hello , 
> 
> i repeat my problem for the debian-user mail-list :
> 
> I use Debian 2.0 with Libc6 and libc5 , kernel 2.0.35 , z8530drv 2.4c
> and ax25-utils 2.1.42a .
> 
> In the kernel i've compile in modules :
> 
> CONFIG_AX25
> CONFIG_NETROM
> CONFIG_ROSE
> CONFIG_NET_RADIO
> CONFIG_BAYCOM
> CONFIG_MKISS 
> CONFIG_SCC
> 
> All work fine here but since i use ax25-utils my server has crash 
> for the third time.
> 
> To my screen i can read : 
> ax0 memory squeeze dropping packet
> ax1 memory squeeze dropping packet
> couldn't get a free page
> 
> In syslog before the crash:
> 5 12:58:16 f5git node[7642]: getpeername: Transport endpoint is not
> connected
> 
> my memory decrease with time and i think make a big crash in 
> my machine after 9 or 12 hours.
> the same server without ax25 in the kernel (only scc driver)
> work very fine with Tnos.
> 
> you can found my ax25 config files in the message attachment.
> 
> Please Help me to solve this problem if possible !
> Many thanks per advance 
> Tony
> 
> 
> 
> Tony Schonfeld - F5GIT - GRENOBLE - Voice/Data/Fax: +33 (0)476932598
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> WWW: http://schonfeld.home.ml.org - http://www.voiron.com/associations/ham/
> Hamnet (ax25): [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  
> 

Best wishes 

   - Karl F. Larsen, 3310 East Street, Las Cruces,NM (505) 524-3303  -

Re: Problem using vi in telnet session

[Stephen J. Carpenter]

On Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 01:46:50AM -0700, David Karlin wrote:
> Hello,
> I'm running a hamm system and mostly login through a telnet window on
> my win95 machine (I have only one monitor as of yet).
> 
> When I run vi in the telnet window, I get some strange behavior.  Just
> about no matter which key I press, the screen blanks, and then vi
> begins to save a copy of the file. (BTW, deselect also acts strangely.)
> 
> When I plug my monitor into the Linux box and login at the console, vi works
> fine.
> 
> I asked someone about this and he said it might have something to do
> with the terminal type of my telnet client.  The win95 telnet client
> I'm using emulates a VT100-ansi.
> 
> Has anyone experienced this kind of situation?  Can anyone point me to
> the appropriate docs, or offer a solution?  I looked in "Running Linux",
> but couldn't find any info there.

What telnet client are you using?

is it the "Windows 95 Telnet" (aka Cheesy Telnet)?

The standard telnet which comes with Windows 4.0 is REALLY CHEESY, and
completely FUBAR. If you are using it I feel sorry for you, and
recomend you try a better telnet.

I recommend CRT (Combined Rlogin and Telnet) from Vandyke (www.vandyke.com)
It is by far the best I have seen. It comes with a 30 day free trial
(yes...shareware...man its been SO LONG since I ever even thought
about the concept of Shareware :) )

If it works under CRT then it is your telnet program ;)

also...
What is TERM set to? have you tried: (under bash) export TERM=vt100
(or under others: TERM=vt100; export TERM)

-Steve


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Re: Safe rm available?

[servis]

*- Hamish Moffatt wrote about "Re: Safe rm available?"
| On Mon, Oct 05, 1998 at 02:27:59PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| > I am using a program called safedelete that you alias to rm.  It is not
| 
| This sounds like a really bad idea (aliasing it to rm). Once you get used
| to having it, you become more careless with the rm command; suddenly
| you're using another box where rm is for real and you've lost real work.
| 
| Undelete is nice but not standard. I do admit to having used it to
| recover some work not long ago :-) (The NetApp file servers the university
| I study at uses keeps snapshots of directories by hour, day etc.)
| 

I actually don't even remember I have it aliased, i.e. I panic
everytime I rm a file that might have been important.  So I have to
remember that I have safedelete running and use it if needed.  I
certaintly don't use it as a catch all.

But that is just me, your mental capacity may vary,

-- 
Brian 
-
"Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes,  
 because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes." 
   - unknown  

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Re: Where is Bo?

[servis]

*- Nathan O. Siemers wrote about "Where is Bo?"
| 
| I need bo (debian 1.3) binaries of grep and ar to try and revive an
| old system before I can upgrade to hamm.  Grep and ar have been lost
| :(
| 
| I've seen the address of the bo site somewhere, but I just spent an
| hour looking through the web site with no success.
| 
| Thank you.
| 
| nathan
| 
| 

Huh?  Go to http://www.debian.org/ and scroll down to the bottom of the
page and you will see a heading of "Old versions of Debian" there you
will find a link to ftp://ftp.infodrom.north.de/pub/debian/dists/bo/.

-- 
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-
"Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes,  
 because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes." 
   - unknown  

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Re: Problem using vi in telnet session

[Jeff Miller]

I recently took a class on Unix and we used Win95 machines to Telnet into our 
server and vi acted "weird."  The instructor acknowledged this and said that 
there was nothing we could do.  I would suggest using a Windoze X Client 
software in place of Telnet.  We use Exceed and it works well.  There may be 
something available that is "free" but I don't know.  

HTH

>>> "David Karlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/6/98 3:49:08 AM >>>
Hello,
I'm running a hamm system and mostly login through a telnet window on
my win95 machine (I have only one monitor as of yet).

When I run vi in the telnet window, I get some strange behavior.  Just
about no matter which key I press, the screen blanks, and then vi
begins to save a copy of the file. (BTW, deselect also acts strangely.)

When I plug my monitor into the Linux box and login at the console, vi works
fine.

I asked someone about this and he said it might have something to do
with the terminal type of my telnet client.  The win95 telnet client
I'm using emulates a VT100-ansi.

Has anyone experienced this kind of situation?  Can anyone point me to
the appropriate docs, or offer a solution?  I looked in "Running Linux",
but couldn't find any info there.

Tia,
--David


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cable modem

[Kenneth Scharf]

You have comcast right?  I am also on comcast, but they just took over
jones intercable and have yet to 'upgrade their system' sometime next
year before they will offer us the service.  Anyway I looked on
the comcast web site and found out some details on the service.  There
was a line that said something like 'If you already have a network
card, you don't need to get one from us'  Sounds like, 'It's ok to
hook the cable modem into your existing lan'.  I think they will be
suppling a static ip address, so all you have to do is configure your
gateway and ns addresses in routing info.  They didn't mention linux
but from what I read it sounded very linux friendly.  I can't wait
till they get here with the service.  (Some cable modems are really
modified lan cards for which NO linux drivers are available, since
comcast uses ANY lan card ie: the modem looks like a hub, linux is in
like flint!)
--

My local cable company is now offering high-speed cable modem service.
The following excerpt is from their web page Q&A section.  I am running
Slink with IPV4 (I believe).


Can I use any TCP/IP stack with @Home? 
At this time, @Home supports the following: Windows 95, NT workstations,
and MacOS 7.5.3 with open Transport v. 1.1 or greater TCP/IP stacks. 


Does anyone think I would have an insurmountable problem using this
service?

Thanks,
Russ
Russell Cook, Engineering Branch
WSR-88D Operational Support Facility
(405)366-6520 x4237
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Re: Network Card probs

[Jeff Miller]

Go to their web page and look for instructions on your specific card

>>> "Christopher J. Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/5/98 11:06:25 PM >>>
Now X works well... now I need help on My network card.
It says on the cover that it's compatible w/ Linux...
I'm just wondering how compatible.

I have a 
EtherFast 10/100 LAN Card
(PCI interface, Plug-and-Pray)

However, there's not Linux drivers on the floppies (2 of them...)

What should I do?
My computer, a Gateway-2000 GP6-300, pretty much refused to work with
older Network Cards...

---starfox

Chris Stevenson

debian image mirror at fw-athene.wiwi.uni-karlsruhe.de removed

[Andreas Jellinghaus]

we ran out of disk space, don´t expect new hardware and need the disk space
for the day to day stuff. sorry.

maybe someone else can provide a rsync access to debian cd images in europe ?

andreas

Re: Scanners - SCSI card for ARTEC AT12

[Helge Hafting]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 10/06/98 
   at 12:24 PM, H C Pumphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:


[...] 
>No-one mentions the 3181x / 3151x so I can't tell from this what to do
>about my card. If anyone can tell me what to do or point me at the right
>documentation, I'd be grateful.

If it is neither on the supported nor unsupported list, chances are it is
unsupported.  Unless it is hardware compatible with something supported.
Your manual says nothing about compatibility?

You could of course try compiling a kernel supporting every scsi
controller linux can use and see if yours is detetected by any of the
drivers.


>Suggestions for that would be welcome, too - remember I only want the
>SCSI card for the scanner. Is the August 1996 SCSI-Howto still useful in
>this respect, or is it hopelessly out of date? 
I ought to be useful.  There may be support for some newer cards, but you
want something cheap if the scanner is your only use.
Think carefully though, scsi is a good interface for disks.  Buying a good
scsi adapter now let you go for scsi the next time you need  more disk
space, whenever that may be.

Helge Hafting
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Installation problem

[Rodrigo Moya]

Hi all!!

I just got Debian 2.0 and tried to install in my two computers. One is a 386
with 20 MB of RAM - the installation was successful. The other one is a
Pentium MMX 200 with 64 MB of RAM - here the installation script
(install/boot.bat) stopped when detecting hard disks. This is the output

hda: Quantum...
hdb: ATAPI cd-rom- it stops here
( following should be > ide0 ..)

and that's it, it stops there, going no further. I had the same problem with
Debian 1.3, RedHat 4.2/5 and suse 5.1. The disks are IDE and the cdrom works
well, since it is the one I used to install Debian on the 386. Is it a
problem with my hardware, or is there a way of finding a solution, because
it is ok on the 386, but sometimes you get desperated because it is too slow
for some things, and I would like to use Linux in a more powerful box.

Thanks very much in advance

Re: Can't drag and drop in Netscape

[Blazej Sawionek]

LUK ShunTim wrote:
> KDE and Netscape 4.5bPR1.
Sorry I don't uderstand what you are trying to do, but 4.5bPR2 is
already available - maybe that can help you?

Blazej

Scanners - SCSI card for ARTEC AT12

[H C Pumphrey]

Hi debian users and SANE people:

This is tangential to, but not unconnected with the recent request on
debian-user for advice about what scanner to get. When I bought my Debian
system recently I got an ARTEC AT12 scanner because (a) it was on the SANE
supporeted list (b) it is alledgedly a very good scanner and (c) my
supplier could get one easily.  I have no other SCSI devices. The scanner
comes with its own SCSI card and this is the reason I havn't got it
working yet. 

I have found out what sort of card it is: a DTC 3181x / 3151x, whatever
that means. I can't find out from the various Linux FMs tht I have RTFMed
whether this card is supported and, if so, what I do to get it recognised
(Presumably I need some boot-prompt arguments). 

The Hardware-Howto lists the following DTC cards as supported:
DTC 329x (EISA) (Adaptec 154x compatible) 

and the following as unsupported:

Non Adaptec compatible DTC boards (327x, 328x)  

The (not recently updated) SCSI-Howto agrees and says the 327x and  328x
will NEVER be supported on account of DTC's disclosure policies. 
 
No-one mentions the 3181x / 3151x so I can't tell from this what to do
about my card. If anyone can tell me what to do or point me at the right
documentation, I'd be grateful.

It would also be useful if anyone can confirm that this card is never
going to work in Linux -- then I would know that I will have to find
another card. Suggestions for that would be welcome, too - remember I only
want the SCSI card for the scanner. Is the August 1996 SCSI-Howto still
useful in this respect, or is it hopelessly out of date? 

Clearly, if I get the scanner  working, I'll post what I did here. 

The bottom line for anyone buying a scanner is that even if you pick one
from the SANE-supported list you may find that it is supplied with a SCSI
card that is not usable (or not immediately usable) in Linux. You may
therefore have to get a different SCSI card before the scanner will work.

many TIA to anyone who can supply further enlightenment!

Hugh 

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Re: URGENT!!! ROOT PARTITION DELETED

[Peter Iannarelli]

Hi:

To my knowledge there is no way to recover the root.
You could however try to re-activate that partition and
see what happens. I doubt it will work because mkfs
resets the inode tables.

When you re-activate/create that partition again everything
on it is reset. So, you have to re-install the system
partition again.

Peter

-Original Message-
From: G. Kapetanios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Date: Tuesday, October 06, 1998 6:07 AM
Subject: URGENT!!! ROOT PARTITION DELETED


>
>
>Hi all,
>
>I was having problems with the network so I deided to use the rescue disk
>to configure my machine with no network. By mistake (big mistake !!!)
>I chose to initialise the root partition rather than mount a previously
>initialised partition. The hard disk did not work a lot but my root
>partition seems lost. I did not search for bad blocks on the partition.
>I have not installed anything apart from the stuff on the rescue disk. Is
>there a way to save the stuff on my root partition. Nothing is critical
>all the important stuff is in the other partitions which I can see but
>I will have to reconfigure the system. Please help
>George
>
>---

>George Kapetanios
>Churchill College
>Cambridge, CB3 0DSE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>U.K.  WWW:
http://garfield.chu.cam.ac.uk/~gk205/work_info.html
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>
>
>
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>

URGENT!!! ROOT PARTITION DELETED

[G. Kapetanios]

Hi all, 

I was having problems with the network so I deided to use the rescue disk
to configure my machine with no network. By mistake (big mistake !!!)
I chose to initialise the root partition rather than mount a previously
initialised partition. The hard disk did not work a lot but my root
partition seems lost. I did not search for bad blocks on the partition. 
I have not installed anything apart from the stuff on the rescue disk. Is
there a way to save the stuff on my root partition. Nothing is critical
all the important stuff is in the other partitions which I can see but 
I will have to reconfigure the system. Please help 
George  

---
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Cambridge, CB3 0DSE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: TALK: socket error

[Robert Ramiega]

On Mon, Oct 05, 1998 at 10:33:24PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Howdy all!
> 
> Does anyone know what this error is telling me?
> 
> [Couldn't bind to control socket : Cannot assign requested address (99). 
> Press a
> ny key...]
> 
> I'm running netstd version 3.07-2 on the system that's having the problems.
> Most of the other systems I manage are on netstd_3.07-1...if that helps.
 Check if You have talk daemon (i guess no; i don't know when this talkd got
out of netstd) and i case it's missing install talkd deb (today while
upgrading from Polish mirror i also spotted telnet and telnetd debs)

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Kai's mail setup seriously hosed

[Kai Grossjohann]

I have seriously hosed my mail setup in the past few days and might
have deleted mail you sent between October 1st and a few minutes ago.
Please accept my apologies for this mishap; I am truly sorry about
this.  Could you resend your message, please?

If you haven't sent me a message since October 1st, please ignore this
mail.

Thank you very much.
kai
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Re: 2 ether, problems routing

[Pere Camps]

Nils,

> It is not the computer that needs an IP address, every single network
> interface on the computer will need a unique IP address (except if you have
> point-to-point interfaces, but that doesn't apply in your situation)

First question: can I make an eth behave as a point-to-point if
there are only two eth cards in the network?

> Example: Assume Adresses 147.83.61.192-207 are still free (the start IP must
> be divisible by 16)
> ifconfig eth1 147.83.61.193 netmask 255.255.255.240 broadcast 147.83.61.207
> route add -net 147.83.61.192 dev eth1
> arp -s 147.83.61.192 '00:A0:24:52:32:41' netmask 255.255.255.240 pub
> # Note that this is the hardware address of your first network card,
> # providing eth0

Not working. I can access eth0 (.17) from the w95 machine but
I can not access any other part of the eth0 network.

If I have understood correctly subnetting with the netmask of 240
divides the network into 16 subnets... as my primary net has a netmask of
255.255.255.0 then the machine addresses are 0.0.0.* which is incompatible
with puting a netmask of .240 on the eth1.

Maybe arp -s fixs it, but as I have these things very fresh, I
don't know.

I guess my best bet is to make the eht1 behave as p-t-p link. I've
seen an option for that in ifconfig, but I couldn't get it working. 

Thanks for your help.

Salutacions, Pere     __oUltima Ratio Regum
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Re: Memory usage

[Dirk Bonne]

Pat O'Brien wrote:
> 
> If I have 192Mb of ram, how do I indicate to the kernel that I
> have it.
> 

Write

append="mem=192m"

in lilo.conf and run lilo again. The kernel must be said explicitly how
much memory you have if you go above 64M.

Dirk

Re: 2 ether, problems routing

[Pere Camps]

Toby,

> Then use ipfwadm to forward any packets from your LAN to the Net.
> A good help is the HOWTO docs on Network and Firewalls.

I'm trying to make a simple setup with ipfwadm: just to move all
the packets from one eth to the other, but I've yet to succeed.

I'll keep trying though. Too many RTFM's to do!

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Setting terminal type for telnet sessions only

[David Karlin]

Hello,
Thanks to a suggestion by Michael Stone, I tried TERM=vt100 from the
command line, and vi now seems to work properly in a telnet window.
Very nice.  Thank you Michael.

How can I set my login script to set TERM=vt100 *only* for telnet
sessions, and not for console (or other) logins?  As I understand it,
the console emulates a vt220, and I don't want to lose the extra
funtionality when I login at the console.

TIA,

--David

> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 1998 1:13 AM
> To: David Karlin
> Subject: »Ø¸´: Problem using vi in telnet session
>
>
>
> I am not sure about the following method,
> modify the profile  set of your user account, set TERm=vt100
> try it
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Karlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Debian User 
> Date: Tuesday, October 06, 1998 3:51 PM
> Subject: Problem using vi in telnet session
>
>
> >Hello,
> >I'm running a hamm system and mostly login through a telnet window on
> >my win95 machine (I have only one monitor as of yet).
> >
> >When I run vi in the telnet window, I get some strange behavior.  Just
> >about no matter which key I press, the screen blanks, and then vi
> >begins to save a copy of the file. (BTW, deselect also acts strangely.)
> >
> >When I plug my monitor into the Linux box and login at the console, vi
> works
> >fine.
> >
> >I asked someone about this and he said it might have something to do
> >with the terminal type of my telnet client.  The win95 telnet client
> >I'm using emulates a VT100-ansi.
> >
> >Has anyone experienced this kind of situation?  Can anyone point me to
> >the appropriate docs, or offer a solution?  I looked in "Running Linux",
> >but couldn't find any info there.
> >
> >Tia,
> >--David
> >
> >
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> >
> >
>

Can't drag and drop in Netscape

[LUK ShunTim]

Hi,

When I wanted to bookmark a page by dragging the "location" icon into
the bookmark file, it just wouldn't work. I'm using hamm, kernel 2.0.34,
KDE and Netscape 4.5bPR1. Have I missed to install anything?

Regards,
ST
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Re: What causes single user boot?

[Michael Beattie]

On Mon, 5 Oct 1998,  Raymond A. Ingles wrote:

>  Sincerely,
> 
>  Ray Ingles   (248)377-7735   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Free Stereogram!
> Try to make the two "O"s in the next row look like three:
>   OO
> n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n   n
> ffffffffffffff
> e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e   e
> aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
> a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a   a
> rrrrrrrrrrrrrr
> r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r   r


Now that, folks, has class.. Cool Ray :)


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Re: OFF TOPIC - UK TV PROGRAM ABOUT LINUX???

[P J Barbera]

Hey, do you want a Dressman or a Killer ??

:)

Pete

Ian Stuart wrote:
> 
> Ian Stuart wrote:
> 
> My only downer comment would be to Linus: "White socks and sandles?
>  Please!"
> 
> --
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> Computing Services
> The University of Edinburgh
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Re: Safe rm available?

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Mon, Oct 05, 1998 at 02:27:59PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am using a program called safedelete that you alias to rm.  It is not

This sounds like a really bad idea (aliasing it to rm). Once you get used
to having it, you become more careless with the rm command; suddenly
you're using another box where rm is for real and you've lost real work.

Undelete is nice but not standard. I do admit to having used it to
recover some work not long ago :-) (The NetApp file servers the university
I study at uses keeps snapshots of directories by hour, day etc.)


Hamish
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