Re: sobre bases de datos

1998-11-21 Thread Ugo Enrico Albarello
El Fri, Nov 20, 1998 at 04:20:41PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] dijo:
 
 Tengo DBaseV para DOS, ¿sería posible usarlo desde Linux?  ¿existe DB para
 Linux?  y por último, aunque muy fuera de lugar, ¿conoce alguien una lista
 para DBase?

Dile adiós a DBase e instala MySQL (o PostgreSQL, como quieras, pero el
primero es más rápido).

Si necesitas ayuda, no dudes en avisarme...

-- 
 Ugo Enrico Albarello López de Mesa| POWERED BY   | www.debian.org
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DEBIAN GNU/LINUX 2.0 |  www.gnu.org
 -
   Always Free, Always Cool, Always Linux


Re: Criticas a Debian

1998-11-21 Thread Ugo Enrico Albarello
El Fri, Nov 20, 1998 at 08:44:21AM -0300, Vázquez, Gustavo dijo:
 
 [Vázquez, Gustavo]  Perdon por mi ignorancia, que es Yssac?
 
Cualquiera que haya estado pululando por las listas de correo de Linux en
espa~nol lo conoce. (bueno, lo conocemos)

:)

-- 
 Ugo Enrico Albarello López de Mesa| POWERED BY   | www.debian.org
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DEBIAN GNU/LINUX 2.0 |  www.gnu.org
 -
   Always Free, Always Cool, Always Linux


Re: Segmentation fault (ncurses)

1998-11-21 Thread Ugo Enrico Albarello
El Fri, Nov 20, 1998 at 01:22:55PM +0100, disaster dijo:
 ¡ Saludos para todos !
 
 Creo que en esta lista hay algunos programadores, la pregunta va para ellos.
 Mirad el resultado de esta compilacion y decidme donde esta el error.
 
 disãster:~/cc$ cãt dis.c
 #include ncurses.h
 
 void main (void)
 {
 getch();
 }
 
Bueno, ya te dijeron que pasó (faltó inicializar ncurses). Te recomiendo
que busques algun tutor o manual de ncurses. En la red hay varios...

-- 
 Ugo Enrico Albarello López de Mesa| POWERED BY   | www.debian.org
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DEBIAN GNU/LINUX 2.0 |  www.gnu.org
 -
   Always Free, Always Cool, Always Linux


Re: Criticas a Debian

1998-11-21 Thread Ugo Enrico Albarello
El Thu, Nov 19, 1998 at 02:44:32PM -0300, Vázquez, Gustavo dijo:
 Bueno gente, la verdad que la comunidad me debve de agarrar bastante rabia.
 Son opiniones personales y no creo que sean para reirse. Pero la cosa que
 hasta que Microsoft no haga softwre para linux..

Microsoft _está_ haciendo software para Linux (ya está por ahí el MediaPlayer)

-- 
 Ugo Enrico Albarello López de Mesa| POWERED BY   | www.debian.org
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DEBIAN GNU/LINUX 2.0 |  www.gnu.org
 -
   Always Free, Always Cool, Always Linux


Re: linuxero entre infieles

1998-11-21 Thread Ugo Enrico Albarello
El Fri, Nov 20, 1998 at 02:35:22PM +, Jose E. Marchesi Corcostegui dijo:

[bla, bla, bla... :) ]
 Por supuesto que seria `posible` un 
 programa de gestion de paquetes .deb, con ventanitas, iconitos, 
 botoncitos, y punietitas, y seria estupendo para el usuario final. 
[bla, bla, bla... :) ]

Y por que no lo haces tú. Puede que suene algo rudo, pero es la verdad.
No sé por lo menos has un esquema de que es lo que quieres.

Yo no sé mucho de C y programar GUIs en Linux (aunque he hecho el intento
usando GTK y Qt...), pero sé muy bien Visual Basic (no miren feo y sigan
leyendo...). Se podría hacer un programa en Visual Basic, y ya cuando se
esté satisfecho (bueno no tanto) con el resultado, se empieza a portar
a Linux (posiblemente con GTK).
Es sólo una idea, pero todos los proyectos (hasta el mismo Linux) empezaron
así (con VisualBasic no hombre!, con las ideas! :) )

Eso sí recuerda que debe ser un programa limpio, rápido y eficiente...

-- 
 Ugo Enrico Albarello López de Mesa| POWERED BY   | www.debian.org
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DEBIAN GNU/LINUX 2.0 |  www.gnu.org
 -
   Always Free, Always Cool, Always Linux


Preguntas urgentes

1998-11-21 Thread Eduardo Martínez




Hola a todos soy de Mxico y esto es lo 
primero que escribo y es para preguntarles lo siguiente (si me lo pueden 
responder o decirme o donde buscarlo, Gracias):

(La verdad no lo tengo y nunca lo he 
utilizado)

* Qe diferencia hay entre 
linx y debian?
* Utilizan las mismas 
instrucciones?
* Cmo administra la 
memoria?
* Cmo administra los 
archivos?
* Cuales son sus caracteristicas como Sistema 
Operativo
* Cuales son los pros y los contras de Debian Vs 
Linux

 Es todo, les agradecero mucho 
su ayuda. Muchas Gracias.


Re: linuxero entre infieles

1998-11-21 Thread Lord of Linux
Jose:

Dejame corregirme,  Dselect no es malo sino muy confuso.
Es confuso en lo siguiente: Debian 2.0 y posteriores poseen mas de 1500
paquetes.
El dselect fue disenado para trabajar con pocos paquetes ( me comentaron que
con unos 200 o menos  )
Al dselect le falta  submenus para distribuir esos 1500 paquetes:
por ejemplo :
Pueden haber dos alternativas :

menu select

submenuweb
submen  lib
submenux11

o puede ser asi :

menu select
submenubase
submenuoption
submenuStandar ( Std )
submenuImp
submenubroken

de esta forma no estan concentrados todos los paquetes en un gran menu sino
en varios
submenus haciendo mas facil el manejo de los paquetes
Tambien el dselect necesita Mejoras ayudas, claras explicaciones de que hay
en cada menu.

He notado una falla   en el Install de dselect cuando ocuure un error
que dice algo asi:
error 1
Press Return
Le doy de nuevo a  Install y vuelve a empezar desde el principio
y no empieza desde  donde  ocurrio  el error ( ojo: no toque para nada el
select al darle la segunda vez )

Me fije muy bien cual fue el paquetes del problema ( el error que dio fue
aparentemente un error de lectura al momento del unpack en el paquete x.deb )

Al darle a install de nuevo vuelve a empezar el unpack   desde el inicio y al
llegar al paquete problematico , lo lee  sin problemas.

Dedusco que lo que ocurrio fue un error de lectura de mi unidad de cd-rom de
36 x
Copio todo el Cd a mi disco duro y no tengo mas esos errores de lectura.
Logre hacer trabajar el xwindows pero no me trabaja bien en otro e-mail mio
explico claramente el problema ( de lo cual desduco que el culpable es la
lib6 y el Xwindows de Hamm )

Yo nunca he trabajado con GUI y ventanitas y todo esos adorno en la
instalacion de las distribuciones de linux en general
Yo empeze en el mundo de la PC con MS-DOS y me manejaba muy bien con el
poderoso NC ( Norton Commander ) y el  NU ( Norton Utilities )
MC  es un clon para linux de  NC
A mi me gusta tener el Xwindows para poder correr el Netscape , poder usar el
applixware o el staroffice , jugar  el xtetris.
Y como se que mi maquina corre bien el X windows no puedo estar sin mi
afterstep.
Lo mejor de x-windows es cuando se usa la maravilla nadie le gana !!! :_)

 Se despide
Cordialmente
Lord of Linux

Jose Eugenio Marchesi Corcostegui wrote:

 Saludos.

 Lord, creo que no me has interpretado bien. Lo que yo afirmo es
 que dselect si da la informacion necesaria y suficiente, por lo menos
 para el linuxero actual, a quien no le queda mas remedio que ser una
 especie de experto en el sistema. Vale, podria ser mas claro, e incluso
 mas informativo, pero los desarrolladores de Debian no son dioses. Y
 ademas de no ser dioses, son pocos. Por supuesto que seria `posible` un
 programa de gestion de paquetes .deb, con ventanitas, iconitos,
 botoncitos, y punietitas, y seria estupendo para el usuario final.
 (Podria decirse que hoy en dia casi no existe el usuario final en LiNUX,
 vuelvo a repetir). Sin embargo, para un linuxero avezadillo, pues has de
 reconocer que un Linuxero hoy tiene que ser, entre otras cosas, mas
 astuto que un zorro, no deberia plantear ninguna diferencia el aspecto
 grafico. Yo, que no me considero ningun experto en MS-Dos, actualmente
 sigo utilizando para gestionar archivos en ese sistema el maravilloso
 Dos-Shell, mas antiguo y mas feo que el cagar. Pero lo uso, y creo que no
 habre usado el Gestor de archivos de W95 mas de 3 veces en mi vida. Esto
 mismo se puede aplicar al Midnight Commander en LiNUX (para dejarlo
 claro, solo uso W95 y compania en caso de ABSOLUTA NECESIDAD). Bueno, que
 menuda parrafada me ha salido.

 Melkor Hacker

 P.D - Mi intencion no era considerarte como un linuxero novato, aunque
 si te sirve de consuelo, yo soy un perfecto novato en cualquier otra
 distribucion que no sea Debian. Y llevo muchos anios con LiNUX.
 P.D.D - No me llames por mi nombre completo que es muy largo.

 :-)






PROBLEMAS CON EL XWINDOWS Y DEBIAN 2.0 ( hamm )

1998-11-21 Thread Lord of Linux
No he logrado hacer trabajar bien el Xfree86 ( X windows )
el problema es el siguiente:
No me reconoce bien mi tarjeta de Video Diammond Stealth 3D 2000
La cual usa el chip S3 virge  instale el xserve_s3v.deb,  el svga y el vga

En el XF86Setup seleccione Mi tarjeta seleciono el boton de la S3v
configuro el monitor seleccione   bpp 16 aunque mi tarjeta soporta 24 bpp
al arrancar el xinit veo que solo usa 8 bpp
arranco el xdm tambien 8 bpp
entro de nuevo al XF86Setup y veo que me seleciono el svga cuando yo escogi el 
s3v
utilizo el SuperProbe para ver que pasa :
y me dice algo asi
Chip: S 3 Virge
Server: SVGA
ramdac: 8 bpp

Eso no estas correcto
Mi tarjeta siempre ha trabajado bien desde X windows  del año 96 con el server 
X3V pudiendo
usar 16 bpp perfectamente

Yo lei en un correo oficial de debian
que el xfree86 ( x windows  ) de la version hamm 2.0 tiene problema con la lib 6
y hace poco sacaron uno nuevo

Alguna idea o 
sugerencia para

solucionarlo???
Lord of 
LInux



Re: Preguntas urgentes

1998-11-21 Thread Lord of Linux
hay un sitio excelente para revisar acerca de debian
http://www.debian.org
busca documentacion
debian faq !!!


Eduardo Martínez wrote:

  Hola a todos soy de México y esto es lo primero que escribo y es para
 preguntarles lo siguiente (si me lo pueden responder o decirme o donde
 buscarlo, Gracias): (La verdad no lo tengo y nunca lo he utilizado) *
 ¿Qúe diferencia hay entre linúx y debian?* ¿Utilizan las mismas
 instrucciones?* ¿Cómo administra la memoria?* ¿Cómo administra los
 archivos?* Cuales son sus caracteristicas como Sistema Operativo*
 Cuales son los pros y los contras de Debian Vs Linux Es todo, les
 agradecero mucho su ayuda.Muchas Gracias.




Re: Preguntas urgentes

1998-11-21 Thread Roberto Ruiz

On Fri, Nov 20, 1998 at 07:52:42PM -0600, Eduardo Martínez wrote: Hola

 (La verdad no lo tengo y nunca lo he utilizado)

Pues ya es hora de que lo instales :)

 * ¿Qúe diferencia hay entre linúx y debian?

Ninguna, Debian es una distribución de Linux, al igual que Slackware,
RedHat, SuSE, Caldera, Monkey y muchas otras. Se diferencían entre
ellas en la forma de instalación y mantenimiento del sistema, cantidad
de paquetes (programas que incluyen), filosofías (este es un tema semi
religioso, así que mejor olvida que lo mencioné ;) ) y muchas otras
cosas que probablemente (o intencionalmente) olvido mencionar.

 * ¿Utilizan las mismas instrucciones?

Sí, siempre y cuando instalaes los programas que tienes/tenías
acostumbrado instalar en otra distribución (si es que has usado alguna
otra).

 * ¿Cómo administra la memoria?
 * ¿Cómo administra los archivos?
 * Cuales son sus caracteristicas como Sistema Operativo

Estos son temas que realmente se salen de mis conocimientos,
probablemente una explicación de estos temas se encuentre en el Linux
Kernel Hackers Guide (o algo por el estilo), buscala en
http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/ ó alguno de sus mirror's.

 * Cuales son los pros y los contras de Debian Vs Linux

Los mismos :)

Saludos
Roberto Ruiz

p.d. A parte de respuesta, este mensaje me va a servir de prueba para
ver como quedo mi nueva configuración de correo, si mi dirección está
como [EMAIL PROTECTED], no le hagan caso, mi verdadera dirección es
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Gracias


Unidentified subject!

1998-11-21 Thread Manuel Antonio Ramos
Hola a todos:

Soy nuevo en la lista y con poca experiencia en Linux, pero con muchas
ganas de trabajar con el. Tengo la distribución Debian 2.0 que viene en la
revista  LINUX ACTUAL  nº 4 , ¿ os parece buena ?. He leido que es
inestable , ¿ es cierto ?. ¿ Permite la conexión con terminales o emuladores
de ellos ? . Luego también he leido el artículo de PC-ACTUAL hablando con
todos sus elojios , de la robusté  y seguridad que tiene, pero me gustaría
que me lo confirmárais.

Saludos

Manuel Antonio Ramos
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: PROBLEMAS CON EL XWINDOWS Y DEBIAN 2.0 ( hamm )

1998-11-21 Thread Hernan Joel Cervantes Rodriguez
Hola :

 No he logrado hacer trabajar bien el Xfree86 ( X windows )
 el problema es el siguiente:
 No me reconoce bien mi tarjeta de Video Diammond Stealth 3D 2000
 La cual usa el chip S3 virge  instale el xserve_s3v.deb,  el svga y el vga
 
 En el XF86Setup seleccione Mi tarjeta seleciono el boton de la S3v
 configuro el monitor seleccione   bpp 16 aunque mi tarjeta soporta 24 bpp
 al arrancar el xinit veo que solo usa 8 bpp
 arranco el xdm tambien 8 bpp
 entro de nuevo al XF86Setup y veo que me seleciono el svga cuando yo escogi 
 el 
s3v
 utilizo el SuperProbe para ver que pasa :
 y me dice algo asi
 Chip: S 3 Virge
 Server: SVGA
 ramdac: 8 bpp
 
 Eso no estas correcto
 Mi tarjeta siempre ha trabajado bien desde X windows  del año 96 con el 
 server 
X3V pudiendo
 usar 16 bpp perfectamente
 
 Yo lei en un correo oficial de debian
 que el xfree86 ( x windows  ) de la version hamm 2.0 tiene problema con la 
 lib 
6
 y hace poco sacaron uno nuevo
 
 Alguna idea o 
sugerencia para
  
solucionarlo???
 Lord of 
LInux
 

Yo tambien tengo esa tarjeta de video, como yo actualize de bo para hamm fue 
usado el XF86Config que ya tenia configurado. Para poder usar los 16/24 bpp 
puedes dar usar :

$ startx -- -bpp 16

Para usarlo con el xdm edita el archivo 

/etc/X11/xdm/Xservers

y actualizalo como los ejemplos que aparecen :

:0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 vt9 -bpp 16

Por si acaso te mando la informacion relevante de mi archivo de configuracion.

Section Device
##
##
# Stealth 3D 2000 Video Card information #
##
#VideoChip : S3 ViRGE (86C325)   #
#VideoRAM  : 4096#
##
Identifier  Diamond
VendorName  Diamond
BoardName   Stealth 3D 2000
#VideoRam4096
 #Option xaa_benchmark
 #Option fifo_moderate
 Option pci_burst_on
 Option pci_retry
 Option hw_cursor
# Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
EndSection

Espero que eso ayude.

Hernán.

   Hernán J Cervantes Rodríguez
   Instituto de Física da USP
   e-mail   : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   homepage : http://fge.if.usp.br/~hernan/
   


Re: Infovía Plus. Tenle miedo, mucho miedo.

1998-11-21 Thread Antonio Calvo Rodriguez
Vicen wrote:
 
 Bueno, yo estoy por Iddeo y la verdad es que dá un gusto ver eso de
 CARRIER:5...
Como conseguiste que te de la velocidad de portadora al conectar ???
Yo no soy capaz.
-- 
Antonio Calvo Rodriguez
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vigo/Galicia/España
--


Infovia Plus

1998-11-21 Thread Alfonso Pastor
Hola, hace 2 minutos he intentado mi primera conexion con Infovia
Plus a través del nodo de pueblo. Para ello he sustituido
el ATDT055 de mi chatscript por ATDT901505055 (que es el numero
para los que no tenemos nodo local) y la respuesta en mi plog ha
sido:

Nov 21 19:09:07 zapata chat[196]: CONNECT
Nov 21 19:09:07 zapata chat[196]:  -- got it 
Nov 21 19:09:07 zapata pppd[195]: Serial connection established.
Nov 21 19:09:08 zapata pppd[195]: Using interface ppp0
Nov 21 19:09:08 zapata pppd[195]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/modem
Nov 21 19:09:09 zapata pppd[195]: Remote message: No Existe Perfil con ese 
Nombre
Nov 21 19:09:09 zapata pppd[195]: PAP authentication failed
Nov 21 19:09:10 zapata pppd[195]: LCP terminated by peer
Nov 21 19:09:13 zapata pppd[195]: Connection terminated.
Nov 21 19:09:14 zapata pppd[195]: Exit.

La configuracion es la misma que tengo para llamar a Infovia, solo
he cambiado el numero. Como solo me quedan 9 dias para abandonar el
055, me esta entrando un ligero acojono, ¿alguien puede saber que
he de cambiar en mis ficheros de configuracion?.

Ah, uso Debian 2.0 Hamm (el ppp es el 2.3.5-2).

Un saludo y gracias.


¿Qué es GNU?

1998-11-21 Thread Eduardo Martínez




Alguien podria decirme concretamente que es GNU 
y/o que significa esto(G..N..U..).
 
Muchas Gracias.



Re: Criticas a Debian

1998-11-21 Thread Andres Herrera
Guenas

On Fri, Nov 20, 1998 at 08:44:21AM -0300, Vázquez, Gustavo wrote:
  Tú a mí no me engañas... tú eres Yssac... 
  
   [Vázquez, Gustavo]  Perdon por mi ignorancia, que es Yssac?

Pues es un participante de linux-qmd, caracterizado por su gran comprension
(y defensa) de Windows NT, Office y demas herramientas de M$.

Su lema es si vende, es lo mejor, y si falla es que es bueno que falle.

Si todos pensasemos asi, tendriamos coches de un solo uso, de usar y tirar.

Saludines
-- 
--
POWERED BY Linux. Debian 2.0 - Kernel 2.0.35 - User reg. 66054
Andres Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Antequera (Malaga) - Spain


Re: Linuxero entre infieles.

1998-11-21 Thread Andres Herrera
Guenas

On Thu, Nov 19, 1998 at 01:13:05PM -0400, Lord of Linux wrote:
 linux sin x windows no tiene gracia !!!

Linux, como de verdad tiene gracia, es en modo texto.

Las X estan muy bien para lo que estan muy bien, pero el modo texto sigue
siendo lo mas eficaz y adictivo que jamas he visto.

Si Linux hubiese sido un engendro grafico al estilo de la cosa que todos
conocemos, te estaria respondiendo desde un ordenador con Free-BSD

Saludines
-- 
--
POWERED BY Linux. Debian 2.0 - Kernel 2.0.35 - User reg. 66054
Andres Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Antequera (Malaga) - Spain


Dpkg serious troubles.

1998-11-21 Thread Christian Lavoie
I decided to use dselect (prime time) to update my debian install a few
other things. (teTeX and apache... wanted to try them out)

A 49megs download was awaiting me. I left it alone most of the time, but
used some bandwidth here and there. I managed to crash the keyboard (would
not respond to *any* keypress) and windowmaker (0.20.2. The screen was
shifted by one inch to the left).

The problem is that whatever package I try to install I get and error
telling me that md5sum gave a bad output 'insert toaster's serial number
here'. What that means and how can I fix it?

The consequences are pretty bad so far: I'm out of Xserver!


Christian Lavoie
UIN: 947212
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Thinkpad 360CSE questions

1998-11-21 Thread Ryan Kirkpatrick
On Fri, 20 Nov 1998, Steve Lamb wrote:

 Does anyone have any of the following for the 360CSE?

I actually have a 360CE, but it should be rather close.

 Working libvga.config

No, and I would like a working one. Of course this was with RH4.0,
so I have yet to try it with Debian 2.0, which is what is currently
installed.

 Working X configs

Yes, attached. It came from one of a ThinkPad+Linux sites I found.
It was listed for another laptop, but worked for me. I get 640x480x256,
and looks just fine!

 Working gpm config for the mouse-thingy

Yes, try the below. It worked out of the box for me with Debian
2.0.

device=/dev/psaux
responsiveness=
type=ps2
append=-l \a-zA-Z0-9_.:~/\300-\326\330-\366\370-\377\


Hope this helps. Any more question about this laptop, feel free to
ask. I got Linux running pretty well on mine. :)


|   For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain. |
|--- Philippians 1:21 (KJV)|

|  Ryan Kirkpatrick  |  Boulder, Colorado  | [EMAIL PROTECTED]  |

|   http://www-ugrad.cs.colorado.edu/~rkirkpat/|

 Section Files
  RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
  FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
  FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
  FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/
  FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
  FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
EndSection
Section ServerFlags
EndSection
Section Keyboard
  Protocol   Standard
  AutoRepeat 500 5
  LeftAltMeta
  RightAlt   ModeShift
  RightCtl   Compose
  ScrollLock ModeLock
EndSection
Section Pointer
  Protocol  ps/2
  Device/dev/psaux
  Emulate3Buttons
EndSection
Section Monitor
  Identifier  Generic Monitor
  VendorName  Unknown
  ModelName   370C
  Bandwidth   80
  HorizSync   35.38  
  VertRefresh 67.38
  ModeLine   640x480 28.3 640 672 768 800 480 490 492 525
EndSection
Section Device
  Identifier  Generic SVGA
  VendorName  IBM
  BoardName   Unknown
  Chipset wd90c30
EndSection
Section Screen
  Driver   svga
  Device   Generic SVGA
  Monitor  Generic Monitor
  Subsection Display
Depth8
Modes640x480
ViewPort 0 0
Virtual  640 480 
  EndSubsection
EndSection


pine sorting

1998-11-21 Thread D'jinnie
Is there any way for me to sort my inbox by sender name and the rest of
the folders by orderedsubj? I'm getting kinda tired of hunting around my
inbox for emails from specific persons, but like OrderedSubj for lists
like this one :)

---
I love my country. I fear my government. 

D'jinnie/Jinn, encountered on IRC and select MU**. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key



Re: web design question

1998-11-21 Thread James Pollard
Quoting Matthew Parry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
  
 
I was wondering whether it was possible to overlay text on to an image in
HTML... specifying a background image for a table cell or something like
that. I think I've seen it done before, but of course I can't find the
website now. 
 
 You could use style sheets for this.  Just define a style such as
 
 style
 .foo { 
 margin-top: -5em
 }
 /style
 
 in the header and put a div class=footext/div below the image.
 
yup, i think this is what he wanted, and i think it is more related to layers
than style sheets (although they are so tightly wrapped who knows).  either
way, you're going to want to know some javascript.  if you're using netscape,
i have some links that i'd recommend for learning their DHTML.

http://developer.netscape.com/library/documentation/communicator/dynhtml/index.htm
http://developer.netscape.com/library/examples/dhtml.html


these next two are javascript links that will introduce the pre-DHTML features:
http://developer.netscape.com/library/documentation/communicator/jsguide/js1_2.htm
http://home.netscape.com/eng/mozilla/3.0/handbook/javascript/

-James


X troubles

1998-11-21 Thread Gossamer
After upgrading my X packages a few days ago, I'm suddenly
getting this:

X: exec of /usr/bin/X11/ failed
_X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
giving up.
xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to X server
xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.


I upgraded again, to a8, but it hasn't fixed the problem.

I can't see what's wrong, seems to be somewhere in startx which
is a binary :(.


Help!!


bekj

-- 
: --Hacker-Neophile-Eclectic-Geek-Grrl-Gay-Disabled-Boychick--
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.tertius.net.au/~gossamer/
: I'll say it again for the logic impaired.  -- Larry Wall


Re: X troubles

1998-11-21 Thread Alexander Kushnirenko
Hi,

Check file /etc/X11/Xserver, it should have server name in it, like:
pccmu1 more /etc/X11/Xserver 
/usr/bin/X11/XF86_S3V
Console

The first line in this file is the full pathname of the default X server.
The second line shows who is allowed to run the X server:
RootOnly
Console  (anyone whose controlling tty is on the console)
Anybody

Sasha.
 After upgrading my X packages a few days ago, I'm suddenly
 getting this:
 
 X: exec of /usr/bin/X11/ failed
 _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
 giving up.
 xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to X server
 xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.
 
 
 I upgraded again, to a8, but it hasn't fixed the problem.
 
 I can't see what's wrong, seems to be somewhere in startx which
 is a binary :(.
 
 
 Help!!
 
 
 bekj
 
 -- 
 : --Hacker-Neophile-Eclectic-Geek-Grrl-Gay-Disabled-Boychick--
 : [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.tertius.net.au/~gossamer/
 : I'll say it again for the logic impaired.  -- Larry Wall
 
 
 -- 
 Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /dev/null
 



Re: PPP daemon has died

1998-11-21 Thread john
Jonathan Crowe writes:
 To start up pppd I just typed pppd at the #

With the result that pppd tried to make a connection to the console, since
you didn't tell it what else to do.  Won't work.  The right way to start
pppd on a Debian 2.0 system is to type 'pon', which is a script which calls
pppd with all the right stuff.  Then you type 'poff', which shuts pppd
down.  First, though, you should run 'pppconfig' to set up the configuration
files with the phone number and stuff.

 When I run the scripts from my ISP I get the same thing connect and
 login but unable to see the internet.

Don't try to use the scripts from the ISP.  They are always crap.  Just use
them as reference material when you run pppconfig.

 I am not able to ping or telnet or ftp anything by name or by IP but at
 least ppp daemon seems to be working.

You probably do not have a defaultroute set. Pppconfig will fix that.  Take
all your changes out of /etc/ppp/options, though.  All customization should
go in /etc/ppp/peers/provider (which pppconfig edits).

 What files do I have to set up to user wvdial. 

You aren't supposed to have to set up any.  Wvdial is supposed to set
everything up itself.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI


Re: kmail stopped working

1998-11-21 Thread Jesse Evans
Folks,

Ok, all those files are where you say they should be and I was able to 
view each of them using KView. So, that's not the problem. What's next?


On Thu, Nov 19, 1998 at 11:20:27PM -0500, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 
 On Thu, 19 Nov 1998, Jesse Evans wrote:
 
  sh-2.01$ kmail 
  Calling deinstallTimer()
  kmail: QPixmap::convertToImage: Cannot convert a null pixmap
  kmail: QPixmap::convertToImage: Cannot convert a null pixmap
  kmail: QPixmap::convertFromImage: Cannot convert a null image
  kmail: QPixmap::convertFromImage: Cannot convert a null image
  kmail: QPixmap::convertToImage: Cannot convert a null pixmap
  kmail: QPixmap::convertToImage: Cannot convert a null pixmap
  kmail: QPixmap::convertFromImage: Cannot convert a null image
  kmail: QPixmap::convertFromImage: Cannot convert a null image
  kmail: QPainter::begin: Cannot paint null pixmap
  kmail: QPainter::begin: Cannot paint null pixmap
  kmail: QPainter::setPen: Will be reset by begin()
  kmail: QPainter::setPen: Will be reset by begin()
  *** KMail got signal 11
  *** KMail got signal 11
 
 Kmail reads in pixmaps from /usr/share/apps/kmail/pics/.  Be sure the
 pixmaps exist there.  Here's what I get when I run ls on that dir:
 
 attach.xpm  green-bullet.xpmkmmsgforwarded.xpm
 pub_key_red.xpm
 checkmail.xpm   kdelogo.xpm kmmsgnew.xpmred-bullet.xpm
 closed.xpm  kmfldin.xpm kmmsgold.xpmsend.xpm
 feather_white.xpm   kmfldout.xpmkmmsgqueued.xpm stopwatch.xbm
 filedel2.xpmkmfldsent.xpm   kmmsgreplied.xpm
 stopwatchMask.xbm
 fileforward.xpm kmfolder.xpmkmmsgsent.xpm   thumb_up.xpm
 filereply.xpm   kminsorgmsg.xpm kmmsgunseen.xpm
 filereplyall.xpmkmmsgdel.xpmkmtrash.xpm
 
 
 So you should have all of those.  Be sure they're readable by the user
 who is trying to run Kmail.  If you don't have these files, try installing
 kdelibs0g-dev, which erroneously contains some runtime files (including, I
 believe, some pixmaps, which might be the ones you need).  If that doesn't
 work, try re-installing kdenetwork.
 
 noah
 
   PGP public key available at
   http://lynx.dac.neu.edu/home/httpd/n/nmeyerha/mail.html
   or by 'finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 
 
 
 
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
 Version: 2.6.2
 
 iQCVAwUBNlTuD4dCcpBjGWoFAQFqCwP/bpcfY5/7JvstmdSCETxR3IZE8NPK9yL0
 bAPjYi1YTHmJd8VLb6AXowunOjI5JKwe/wtnNtAzWckkbL027nzgUZNB52lBzOAQ
 PHUS+4v+Wflv93fliFaETmoB0alW50JyH7c1Lu/KryJg+AfLg4MLMCPNW/f4aHeR
 59+Ad2n4/fI=
 =xB82
 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
 
 

-- 
'til next we type...
HAVE FUN!! -- Jesse


Re: pine sorting

1998-11-21 Thread Adam Shand

 Is there any way for me to sort my inbox by sender name and the rest
 of the folders by orderedsubj? I'm getting kinda tired of hunting
 around my inbox for emails from specific persons, but like OrderedSubj
 for lists like this one :)

hrm.  i sort everything by reverse arrival (so the most recent stuff is at
the top) and then just manually sort all my other folders.  it doesn't
take much to do so i'm fairly happy with that.

sort by subject just hit:   $s

adam.


Re: smbmount via /etc/fstab?

1998-11-21 Thread Rainer Clasen
Hi!

Marc Haber ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 How can I do smbmounts via /etc/fstab?

I'm not 100% sure if this is the correct link, but you might take a look at
http://www-scf.usc.edu/~vibber/linux/smbfs.html . IIRC there are at least
some links to patches against mount to do this. I can't verify the link -
I'm currently in a no-web situation ... Please don't be disappointed if this
only is the link to a wrapper script for 2.1.x's smbmount.


Rainer

-- 
KeyID=58341901 fingerprint=A5 57 04 B3 69 88 A1 FB  78 1D B5 64 E0 BF 72 EB


pgpqpwVEVZxx1.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: Problem starting X for first time

1998-11-21 Thread Rainer Clasen
Hi!

Amanda Shuler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 did you run xf86config?

maybe he has ;-)

IIRC there are situations where some parameters aren't set as chosen.

edit /etc/X11/XF86Config (it has a manpage :-) and go to Section monitor.
set HorizSync and VertRefresh according to your monitors manual.

 On Thu, 19 Nov 1998, Bret Craw wrote:
...
  Fatal server error:  No valid modes found
  _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect:  Can't connect:errno=111


Rainer

-- 
KeyID=58341901 fingerprint=A5 57 04 B3 69 88 A1 FB  78 1D B5 64 E0 BF 72 EB


pgpIjLzBKtl6Q.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: Debian2.0/XFree86 3.3.2.3 on TOSHIBA 4400: X does not start

1998-11-21 Thread Rainer Clasen
Hi!

Marc Fleureck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Installed all relevant packages (xbase, xbase-clients, xlib6, libc6, 
 and xserver-vga) without errors. When we do:
 
  startx
 
 It complains:
 
X: exec of /usr/bin/X11 failed.

put your desired Xserver in the first line of /etc/X11/Xserver - replace the
wrong /usr/bin/X11 for example with /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_VGA16


Rainer

-- 
KeyID=58341901 fingerprint=A5 57 04 B3 69 88 A1 FB  78 1D B5 64 E0 BF 72 EB


pgpEu8GqUaQDT.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: Updated installation disks/images?

1998-11-21 Thread Rainer Clasen
Hi!

Amanda Shuler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 
 On Thu, 19 Nov 1998, Rainer Clasen wrote:
 
  Hi!
  
  Amanda Shuler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
   Is there anyone out ther who has the installation images for Debian 2.0
   with a kernel version 2.0.36 or greater?  I have 2.0.34 and I am having
   trouble with booting... it freaks out when it detects my SCSI card.  It's
   an Adaptec AIC-7xxx; I was told that the newer kernels have better support
   for Adaptec cards.

I heard there are debian images at the aic7xxx distribution sites. IIRC they
are not yet 2.0.36, but with an up to date aic7xxx driver.
 ftp://ftp.dialnet.net/pub/Linux/aic7xxx
 ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/aic

Uhhm - and some time before that I heard there are images at
http://www.debian.org/~doko but I'm not shure about this one. You may check
the archive of debian-user.

next thing I'd try is using slink bootdisks. Enrique Zanardi said he'll
upload new bootdisks (fitting on 1440 disks) in the next days. IIRC 2.0.35
in slink already has the updated aic7xxx driver or is going to get it. You
might take a look at one of the incoming mirrors - eg.
ftp.de.debian.org/pub/debian-incoming

Rainer

-- 
KeyID=58341901 fingerprint=A5 57 04 B3 69 88 A1 FB  78 1D B5 64 E0 BF 72 EB


pgp7MHsNijpd0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: Problem with X...Windowmaker...locale?

1998-11-21 Thread Rainer Clasen
Hi!

Ben Jorgensen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
   Ok, lets see. I assume you've installed 3.3.2.3a-7, haven't you? Either
   update to 3.3.2.3a-8 or reinstall xbase. According to debian-user this 
   fixes
   the local problem. Have you installed those new packages: xmodmap, 
   xfonts-*,
   xterm?
 
 Is there some problem with apt/dselect as well because nothing happened
 when I did Update in dselect. I had to get it and install it manually..

Do you mean reinstalling xbase_3.3.2.3a-7? apt and IIRC the other access
methods to dselect won't install a package if the same or newer version is
already installed.


Rainer

-- 
KeyID=58341901 fingerprint=A5 57 04 B3 69 88 A1 FB  78 1D B5 64 E0 BF 72 EB


pgpDEqfnKu28n.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: cd-rom problems

1998-11-21 Thread Rainer Clasen
Hi!

Mike Fetherston ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 I've been having troubles installing debian on my system.  If I run
 boot.bat from \boot it starts the installation just fine, but then when
 it reboots for the first time to install the packages using dselect it
 can't find my cdrom.  My cdrom is an LG Electronics/Goldstar 8160B 16X
 IDE on the secondary IDE channel as master and it is all alone on the
 cable.  If I create boot diskettes using resc1440.bin, I can use my
 cd-rom.  From chatting on #debian on irc.debian.org it seems to be a
 kernel problem.  Is there any way of fixing this so that when i boot
 from my hard drive i can gain access to my cd-rom to complete the
 installation?
 
 By loooking at /var/log/messages it seems that boot isn't finding my
 secondary pci ide channel.

what kind of motherboard / chipset / IDE-controller do you have / does linux
show in in /var/log/messages?

which kernel are you running? the one from the rescue disc? Or did you
somehow install another kernel (-package)?

sis you try booting with the rescue disc and specifying the root-fs at the
prompt like this:
 rescue root=/dev/YourRootPartition



Rainer

-- 
KeyID=58341901 fingerprint=A5 57 04 B3 69 88 A1 FB  78 1D B5 64 E0 BF 72 EB


pgpDAYMS6QuRO.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: emacs, PATH, trailing /

1998-11-21 Thread David S. Zelinsky
Torsten Hilbrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 On: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:54:49 -0500 (EST) David S Zelinsky writes:
  
  Ever since upgrading from bo to hamm, my PATH environment variable
  as seen from inside emacs (with (getenv PATH)) has a trailing / on
  each entry:
  
  /usr/local/bin/:/bin/:/sbin/:/usr/bin/:/usr/sbin/:/usr/X11R6/bin/
  
 
 [...]
 
 Please execute an echo $PATH within your login shell and check the
 output.  If there is no trailing / there, something strange is
 happening.  On my system, both echo $PATH and (getenv PATH)
 yields all component of my PATH without the trailing /.

I checked this.  In any shell that wasn't started by emacs, the PATH looks
normal (no trailing /).  But the running emacs actually has the trailing
slashes in its PATH environment, which gets inherited by any new shell.

I've also tried this with `emacs -q', and with no .bash_profile or .bashrc,
and even when logged in as a new user, with just the skeleton files.  In all
cases, I get the trailing slashes when in emacs, but normal looking PATH
otherwise.

I agree, something strange is happening.  I'm utterly baffled by this.

I also just noticed that there is an extra `:/usr/bin' as the last element of
my PATH, inside emacs, that isn't there in shells outside of emacs.
Strangely, it doesn't have the trailing slash!

--
David Zelinsky
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: looking Wm that can emulate mac windows...........

1998-11-21 Thread Jason Lunz
On Fri, Nov 20, 1998 at  3:02AM -0300, Phillip Neumann wrote:
 Where can i find a good mac-like w-manager??

If you use fvwm2 along with the MacOS theme at:

http://www.staticbomb.com/~fvwm2gnome/

you'll get something that _looks_ the same. You'd have to do some
configuring to get things to behave the same, but it's probably
possible...you can make fvwm2 do nearly anything.

J


Re: pine sorting

1998-11-21 Thread Jason Lunz
On Fri, Nov 20, 1998 at  6:41PM -0600, D'jinnie wrote:
 Is there any way for me to sort my inbox by sender name and the rest of
 the folders by orderedsubj? I'm getting kinda tired of hunting around my
 inbox for emails from specific persons, but like OrderedSubj for lists
 like this one :)

mutt lets you configure just about everything, including different sort
orders for different folders.

www.mutt.org

J


Re: pine sorting

1998-11-21 Thread Robert V. MacQuarrie

I had the same problem. I always hated to have to search through
300/400/500 or more emails in my INBOX. What I did was install procmail
and a few real simple filters which divided all incoming mail into
pre-assigned folders. 
I set it up like the following

  E-MailGoes Into
debian-user ~/mail/Debian/IN.Debian-user
debian-security ~/mail/Debian/IN.Debian-Security

Procmail allows you to sort and filter your incoming email with ease
however you wish it done. I have roughly 600 to 700 e-mails coming in
daily and procmail sorts about 90% of it for me. I know exactly where
everything is now. :-)

--Rob



On Fri, 20 Nov 1998, D'jinnie wrote:

 Is there any way for me to sort my inbox by sender name and the rest of
 the folders by orderedsubj? I'm getting kinda tired of hunting around my
 inbox for emails from specific persons, but like OrderedSubj for lists
 like this one :)
 


Re: Problem with X...Windowmaker...locale?

1998-11-21 Thread Ed Cogburn
Rainer Clasen wrote:
 
 Hi!
 
 Ben Jorgensen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Ok, lets see. I assume you've installed 3.3.2.3a-7, haven't you? Either
update to 3.3.2.3a-8 or reinstall xbase. According to debian-user this 
fixes
the local problem. Have you installed those new packages: xmodmap, 
xfonts-*,
xterm?
 
  Is there some problem with apt/dselect as well because nothing happened
  when I did Update in dselect. I had to get it and install it manually..
 
 Do you mean reinstalling xbase_3.3.2.3a-7? apt and IIRC the other access
 methods to dselect won't install a package if the same or newer version is
 already installed.
 


a) If we are talking about the missing 'C locale' problem, its the 
latest 'xlib6g' X11 package that solves this (it has the missing dir in
it).

b) dselect won't downgrade, but you can use dpkg directly with the
'--force-downgrade' option to do that.


-- 
Ed C.


Re: netscape woes

1998-11-21 Thread Ed Cogburn
George Bonser wrote:
 
 Just exactly what is the procedure now to install netscape? I made the
 mistake of upgrading netscape from slink to 4.07 ... then tried 4.5 ...
 I have no netscape program anymore. There is a wrapper, if I link to it
 from, say, /usr/bin, it complains that I have no netscape-real.
 
 Now I thought the binary was now part of the package???
 
 WHy does the .deb install a broken netscape?
 
 WHat is the proper procedure after installing the deb to get a web
 browser.
 
 This kinda sucks.
 
 George Bonser
 


Remco's answer is correct.  The actual NS binary is in the last package
he lists, 'xxx-smotif-xxx'.


-- 
Ed C.


Re: Advice on Hardware

1998-11-21 Thread Ed Cogburn
Moore, Paul wrote:
 
 I'm thinking of buying a new PC. However, I want to be sure my hardware
 will be supported. I've read the Hardware HOWTO, and I *think* I
 understand it, but there are a number of things I am still concerned
 about:
 
 * The supplier wasn't 100% clear on the exact video card spec - it's a
 Jetway make, using S3 ViRGE chipset. Is this likely to be OK?


Yes, the S3 VIRGE chipset is supported.


 * The video card is an AGP model. All I can find in the HOWTO and the
 XFree86 notes is that some AGP cards work. Will this one??!?


I don't know.  Try going to http://www.xfree86.org and see if they have
anything about your AGP card.


 * The sound card is a Creative Labs PCI 64 card. Is that likely to
 work? It's a plug and pray card - does that cause me problems?


The current stable linux kernels don't have support for PnP.  There is
a package called 'isapnptools' that can initialize PnP cards, but only
on ISA bus cards; yours is a PCI card.  Before giving up, try checking
your computer's BIOS program.  It may be able to initialize PnP cards at
bootup by itself.  My BIOS (AMI) has this feature (which saves me much
grief).


 The rest of the spec seems unlikely to be a problem - Pentium II 333MHz,
 BX 100MHz motherboard, 64M RAM, 4.3G EIDE UDMA disk, 32x CD ROM (IDE).
 Does anybody know of any issues or relevant questions I should ask?


Not sure about the 100mhz motherboard; the rest is no problem.

 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Paul Moore.
 
 --
 Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /dev/null

-- 
Ed C.


Re: Locale 'C'

1998-11-21 Thread Ed Cogburn
Trevor Glen wrote:
 
 Hello Everybody,
 
 I am having this error message come up when I start Netscape (4.05)
 netscape: locale `C' not supported.
 And then some blurb about the $XNLSPATH.
 
 An error similar to this is occuring in my .xsession-errors file
 Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C
 Warning: X locale modifiers not supported, using default
 
 What is this all about (I assume that they are related)
 Trevor Glen.
 


The latest version of the 'xlib6g' X11 package in slink should solve
this (it has the missing locale dir).


-- 
Ed C.


backup and additional HD-space in one device?

1998-11-21 Thread Ingo Hohmann
Hi,

as my HD-space is shrinking, and I don't have any
means backup till now, I thought if it was possible
(and recommended) to get something that might be
used for backup and additional HD-space. Maybe a 
Zip-Drive? One of those LS-120 drives?
What do you think?

P.S.: O' course it's a must do that it works under
Linux, and for the time being it would be nice if
it worked under Windoze, too, but that's not at all
required.

Thanks in advance,


Ingo

---
Ingo Hohmann, Otto-Speckter-Str.17b, D-22307 Hamburg, Germany
Tel/Fax: + 49 40 / 69 79 24 80eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Locale 'C'

1998-11-21 Thread Trevor Glen
On 21-Nov-98 George Bonser wrote:
 Any idea when that will be available for download? I have 3.3.2.3a-8 and
 that is not fixing the problem.

I got it to work with 3.3.2.3a-8 first go (!?), wish I could help you George!

And for anyone else: If I have xlib6g_3.3.2.3a-8 installed, do I have to
install all of the other x* packages that are currently running on 3.3.2.3a-7?

Trevor Glen


--
E-Mail: Trevor Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 21-Nov-98
Time: 16:52:21

Scully to Mulder: Why did you lie to that man?
Mulder to Scully: I merely participated in a campaign of mis-infomation
--


Re: netscape woes

1998-11-21 Thread Ed Cogburn
George Bonser wrote:
 
 On Sat, 21 Nov 1998, Ed Cogburn wrote:
 
 
Remco's answer is correct.  The actual NS binary is in the last 
  package
  he lists, 'xxx-smotif-xxx'.
 
 This dod not seam to help. I went so far as to delete all the netscape
 packages and then download the binary myself and use the old netscape4
 installer. I get the same problem on startup. Looks like the X packages
 are somehow fsckd up. I can not install Netscape in any way.
 
 George Bonser
 


I wonder if this is some kind of conflict between the old netscape
installer (where you put the NS binary in /tmp) and the new NS packages
which have the NS binary included.  I never used the netscape installer;
I've always downloaded the tarball from netscape.com, and installed it
in /usr/local.  When I installed the 4.07 from slink I had no problems,
except for the earlier problem with a missing locale dir that was a
problem in the X11 stuff.
Here's what I have installed (the last one has the NS binary):

netscape-base-4
netscape-base-407
netscape-java-407
communicator-base-407
communicator-nethelp-407
communicator-spellchk-407
communicator-smotif-407


-- 
Ed C.


Re: Locale 'C' (but with more)

1998-11-21 Thread Trevor Glen
Hello again,

 I suspect that slink is going to be a very sloppy upgrade ... completely
 reomve X from hamm, then completely reinstall X and all X packages in
 slink.

What about xvidtune? Does that come into the same category? I just then tried
to use it to install my xserver (I have one running but I thought that I might
try this 'new' method) and it says:

Please install program before using it.

Ok, then how do I do it? Or should I get xf86setup_3.3.2.3a-8?

Trevor


--
E-Mail: Trevor Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 21-Nov-98
Time: 17:07:19

Scully to Mulder: Why did you lie to that man?
Mulder to Scully: I merely participated in a campaign of mis-infomation
--


Re: Locale 'C'

1998-11-21 Thread Ed Cogburn
George Bonser wrote:
 On Sat, 21 Nov 1998, Ed Cogburn wrote:
 
  Trevor Glen wrote:
  
   Hello Everybody,
  
   I am having this error message come up when I start Netscape (4.05)
   netscape: locale `C' not supported.
   And then some blurb about the $XNLSPATH.
  
   An error similar to this is occuring in my .xsession-errors file
   Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C
   Warning: X locale modifiers not supported, using default
  
   What is this all about (I assume that they are related)
   Trevor Glen.
  
 
 
The latest version of the 'xlib6g' X11 package in slink should solve
  this (it has the missing locale dir).
 
 
 
 Any idea when that will be available for download? I have 3.3.2.3a-8 and
 that is not fixing the problem.
 


Uh-Oh.  I have xlib6g 3.3.2.3a-7 installed.  It has the missing locale
directory in it; I checked with 'dpkg -L xlib6g'.  Installing this
solved my problems.  Check /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/ and look to see if there
is a 'locale' dir there (NOT a symlink).

Note: I never set the XNLSPATH var; it is not necessary to solve this
problem (at least I don't think so).


-- 
Ed C.


Re: Locale 'C'

1998-11-21 Thread Ed Cogburn
George Bonser wrote:
 
 On Sat, 21 Nov 1998, Ed Cogburn wrote:
 
Uh-Oh.  I have xlib6g 3.3.2.3a-7 installed.  It has the missing locale
  directory in it; I checked with 'dpkg -L xlib6g'.  Installing this
  solved my problems.  Check /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/ and look to see if there
  is a 'locale' dir there (NOT a symlink).
 
Note: I never set the XNLSPATH var; it is not necessary to solve this
  problem (at least I don't think so).
 
 
 The directory is there  but there is nothing in it.
 
 George Bonser
 


Here's the beginning of 'dpkg -L xlib6g' output:

/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.dir 
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/compose.dir
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/C
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/C/XLC_LOCALE
...

If you have to, download the xlib6g and install it manually with dpkg. 
When I first had these problems, I got the locale dir out of the old
'xbase' package (when it was ~2.0 meg).  'xlib6g' definitely has what
you need.


-- 
Ed C.


Netscape4 -- Font Problem

1998-11-21 Thread Craig R. Hodges
I've installed communicator 4.5 with netscape4_4.0-14 (slink),
xpm4g_3.4j-0.6, and motifnls_2.1-3 (slink). I get the following error mesg
when Netscape loads...

Warning: Cannot convert string
-*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*--* to type FontStruct

(then same mesg repeated again)

Netscape does load but it uses a font similar to Window's System for the
menus, menu bar, toolbars, and status bar. According to KDE's Font Manager
I do have -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--12-120-75-75-p67-iso8859-1
(repeated twice) in the Raw X11 Font List, and I do have xfnt75
(stable) installed.

Any ideas?

Thanks for any help,
Craig



RE: Valid values for LC_ALL and LANG?

1998-11-21 Thread Mario Bertrand

On 20-Nov-98 Daniel Elenius wrote:
 Does anyone know what values you might have for the environmnt
 variables LC_ALL and LANG (I sometimes get a warning that I should set 
 these). I have set LC_CTYPE (to ISO8859-1), I use a swedish
 keyboard. I haven't found the specs for these variables anywhere.
 
 
 -- 
 Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 /dev/null


My best guess, unless someone know better ;-)

---
# /etc/profile: system-wide .profile file for bash(1).

LC_CTYPE=ISO-8859-1 # do not use ISO8859-1
LC_ALL=sv.SE
LANG=sv
LESSCHARSET=latin1

export LC_CTYPE LC_ALL LANG LESSCHARSET
---




Message envoyé le 21-Nov-98 à 01:58:27
Par Mario Bertrand [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Kernel compilation error / Kernel too big.

1998-11-21 Thread Andrew Ivanov
I just finished compiling my own kernel( 2.0.34), and it comes out of size
788K, which is too big for Lilo to handle.
Are there any ways around it?

I tried make bzImage, like HOWTO suggested, but at the end of compilation
I get:
as86 -0 -a -o bbootsect.o bbootsect.a
make[1]: as86: Command not found
make[1]: *** [bbootsect.o] Error 127
make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/arch/i386/boot/
make: *** [bzImage] Error 2

It still produces a vmlinux file in /usr/src, though. But I don't know if
this is how bzImage is supposed to work.
Any ideas on what to do about that error and/or how to make LILO work with
a kernel of that size?

TIA,
 Andrew


Re: Netscape4 -- Font Problem

1998-11-21 Thread Craig R. Hodges
I just noticed that it only does this in KDE! My .xsession-errors has
KCharset: Wrong charset! in it. Time to chuck KDE.

On Sat, 21 Nov 1998, Craig R. Hodges wrote:

 Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 01:51:39 -0600 (EST)
 From: Craig R. Hodges [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Netscape4 -- Font Problem
 
 I've installed communicator 4.5 with netscape4_4.0-14 (slink),
 xpm4g_3.4j-0.6, and motifnls_2.1-3 (slink). I get the following error mesg
 when Netscape loads...
 
 Warning: Cannot convert string
 -*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*--* to type FontStruct
 
 (then same mesg repeated again)
 
 Netscape does load but it uses a font similar to Window's System for the
 menus, menu bar, toolbars, and status bar. According to KDE's Font Manager
 I do have -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--12-120-75-75-p67-iso8859-1
 (repeated twice) in the Raw X11 Font List, and I do have xfnt75
 (stable) installed.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Thanks for any help,
 Craig
 
 
 


Re: Kernel compilation error / Kernel too big.

1998-11-21 Thread Ed Cogburn
Andrew Ivanov wrote:
 
 I just finished compiling my own kernel( 2.0.34), and it comes out of size
 788K, which is too big for Lilo to handle.
 Are there any ways around it?
 
 I tried make bzImage, like HOWTO suggested, but at the end of compilation
 I get:
 as86 -0 -a -o bbootsect.o bbootsect.a
 make[1]: as86: Command not found
  


This means you need to load the bin86 package, which is needed on i386
platforms to build the kernel.


 make[1]: *** [bbootsect.o] Error 127
 make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/arch/i386/boot/
 make: *** [bzImage] Error 2
 
 It still produces a vmlinux file in /usr/src, though. But I don't know if
 this is how bzImage is supposed to work.
 Any ideas on what to do about that error and/or how to make LILO work with
 a kernel of that size?
 
 TIA,
  Andrew
 
 --
 Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /dev/null

-- 
Ed C.


Re: Kernel compilation error / Kernel too big.

1998-11-21 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Nov 21, 1998 at 02:30:12AM -0600, Andrew Ivanov wrote:
 I just finished compiling my own kernel( 2.0.34), and it comes out of size
 788K, which is too big for Lilo to handle.
 Are there any ways around it?
 
 I tried make bzImage, like HOWTO suggested, but at the end of compilation
 I get:
 as86 -0 -a -o bbootsect.o bbootsect.a
 make[1]: as86: Command not found
 make[1]: *** [bbootsect.o] Error 127
 make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/arch/i386/boot/
 make: *** [bzImage] Error 2
 
 It still produces a vmlinux file in /usr/src, though. But I don't know if
 this is how bzImage is supposed to work.
 Any ideas on what to do about that error and/or how to make LILO work with
 a kernel of that size?

You need to install the binutils package; it contains as86.
The vmlinux file is not the kernel you want to use with LILO;
use arch/i386/boot/zImage or bzImage instead.

Hamish
-- 
Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD  [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5
CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome.   http://hamish.home.ml.org


Re: Netscape4 -- Font Problem

1998-11-21 Thread Craig R. Hodges
I think this is something buggy in KDE's latest stable dist because it
works fine in icewm. Icewm is okay but I'm looking for a window manager
with some more features. Any sugestions?

Thanks,
Craig

On Sat, 21 Nov 1998, George Bonser wrote:

 Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 00:46:56 -0800 (PST)
 From: George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Craig R. Hodges [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: Netscape4 -- Font Problem
 Resent-Date: 21 Nov 1998 08:47:52 -
 Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Resent-cc: recipient list not shown: ;
 
 
 
 Here is an example of an old system of mine:
 
 corsica# eximon
 corsica# 
 Exim Monitor version 1.26 (compiled 22-Jul-1997 10:05:59) initializing
 Warning: Cannot convert string -dt-interface
 user-medium-r-normal-m*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* to type FontSet
 Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset
 Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset
 
 but it eventually runs eximon ... there are some really broken things in X
 right now that need to be fixed.
 
 
 
 On Sat, 21 Nov 1998, Craig R. Hodges wrote:
 
  I just noticed that it only does this in KDE! My .xsession-errors has
  KCharset: Wrong charset! in it. Time to chuck KDE.
  
  On Sat, 21 Nov 1998, Craig R. Hodges wrote:
  
   Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 01:51:39 -0600 (EST)
   From: Craig R. Hodges [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
   Subject: Netscape4 -- Font Problem
   
   I've installed communicator 4.5 with netscape4_4.0-14 (slink),
   xpm4g_3.4j-0.6, and motifnls_2.1-3 (slink). I get the following error mesg
   when Netscape loads...
   
   Warning: Cannot convert string
   -*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*--* to type FontStruct
   
   (then same mesg repeated again)
   
   Netscape does load but it uses a font similar to Window's System for the
   menus, menu bar, toolbars, and status bar. According to KDE's Font Manager
   I do have -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--12-120-75-75-p67-iso8859-1
   (repeated twice) in the Raw X11 Font List, and I do have xfnt75
   (stable) installed.
   
   Any ideas?
   
   Thanks for any help,
   Craig
   
   
   
  
  
  -- 
  Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /dev/null
  
  
  
 
 George Bonser
 
 The Linux We're never going out of business sale at an FTP site near you!
 
 
 -- 
 Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /dev/null
 


Re: Kernel compilation error / Kernel too big.

1998-11-21 Thread Andrew Ivanov
I have binutils 2.9.1-0.2 installed, which is what I think , at least
this is a requirement for kernel source, as it's said on www.debian.org
And compilation ran with binutils installed, and I got that error.
Andrew



Never include a comment that will help | Andrew Ivanov
someone else understand your code. | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If they understand it, they don't  | ICQ: 12402354
need you.  |


Re: Kernel compilation error : Got it.

1998-11-21 Thread Andrew Ivanov
Thank you for fast response. bin86 was the package needed.
Andrew


Never include a comment that will help | Andrew Ivanov
someone else understand your code. | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If they understand it, they don't  | ICQ: 12402354
need you.  |


Unkillable Process?

1998-11-21 Thread David Densmore
I use Wine 0.0.980315-1 on my hamm system to run Forte's Agent newsreader,
which frequently crashes, locking up my X server.  When this happens, I go
back to a console and use the ps a command to identify the PID then kill
it, which usually returns my system to normal.

Just a little while ago it happened again, but when I typed ps a I did
not see the Wine/Agent PID even though Agent was still frozen in my
X screen.

I tried various arguments to ps in addition to a, but was unable to obtain
the PID and could not kill Wine/Agent, so I finally resorted to a reboot to
restore order.  I realize this act is sacrilege, forgive me and show me
the error of my ways.

Does anyone know why I was unable to list the PID?  And how do I kill
the X server when it locks up?

Thank you,
David Densmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Unkillable Process?

1998-11-21 Thread jd?

to kill xserver try ctrl+alt+backspace

works for me!

jd?


Gnome

1998-11-21 Thread Trevor Glen
Hi Everybody,

My gnome libs are all wrong. Or to be more precise my gnome apps are. The
availiable packages in dselect for the games (and most of the gnome stuff) are
ver 0.30-1, whereas the lib packages are around 0.30.1-2 and so when I run a
gnome app I get a message similar to this:

gnobots: error in loading shared libraries
libgtk-1.1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

The only lib that I have is libgtk-1.1.so.2.

Any suggestions?

Trev

--
E-Mail: Trevor Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 21-Nov-98
Time: 22:01:09

Scully to Mulder: Why did you lie to that man?
Mulder to Scully: I merely participated in a campaign of mis-infomation
--


recognition ide (was :ide)

1998-11-21 Thread Rx

ok, this time i've more information :

my debian linux doesn't recognize well my HD ibm 8.4 GB 

here are some messages from dmesg, cfdisk and fdisk
note : under cfdisk, my hd seems to have 189 GB 

I include the bios autodetection :
size cyl head precomp landz sector mode
8447 1027 255 0  16382   63 LBA
8455 16383 16 65535  16382   63 normal
8452 2047 128 65535  16382   63 large

which one do i need to choose ?
i tried all of them, no one seems to work.
(every time linux recognize 189 GB and dos see the right size (8.4GB))

thank you...
I've tried to be more precise.




ide: i82371 PIIX (Triton) on PCI bus 0 function 33
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xc800-0xc807
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xc808-0xc80f
hdb: IBM-DTTA-350840, 8063MB w/467kB Cache, CHS=20510/81/228, UDMA
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14


Partition check:
 sda: sda1 sda4  sda5 sda6 sda7 sda8 sda9 
 hdb: [PTBL] [1027/255/63] hdb1 hdb2  hdb5 

fdisk:

$ fdisk /dev/hdb
The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 1027

Disk /dev/hdb: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1027 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot   BeginStart  End   Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hdb1  2561   65   516064+   6  DOS 16-bit =32M
Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary:
 phys=(55, 72, 36) should be (55, 254, 63)
/dev/hdb2   57   57 1027  7799557+   f  Unknown


cfdisk 0.8j

   Disk Drive: /dev/hdb
   Heads: 81   Sectors per Track: 228   Cylinders: 20510

NameFlags   Part Type  FS Type   [Label]Size 
(MB)
 
-
 Pri/Log   Free Space   
184950.53  


 fdisk  /dev/hdb
The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 20510.
This is larger than 1024, and may cause problems with:
1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., LILO)
2) booting and partitioning software form other OSs
   (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)

Command (m for help): p

Disk /dev/hdb: 81 heads, 228 sectors, 20510 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 18468 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot   BeginStart  End   Blocks   Id  System


ide: i82371 PIIX (Triton) on PCI bus 0 function 33
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xc800-0xc807
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xc808-0xc80f
hdb: IBM-DTTA-350840, 8063MB w/467kB Cache, CHS=20510/81/228, UDMA
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14


 fdisk /dev/hdb
The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 20510.
This is larger than 1024, and may cause problems with:
1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., LILO)
2) booting and partitioning software form other OSs
   (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)

Command (m for help): p

Disk /dev/hdb: 81 heads, 228 sectors, 20510 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 18468 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot   BeginStart  End   Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hdb111  111  1024860b  Unknown
Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary:
 phys=(878, 80, 36) should be (878, 80, 228)
/dev/hdb2  112  112  854  68608625  Extended
Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary:
 phys=(853, 80, 36) should be (853, 80, 228)
/dev/hdb5  112  112  854  6860748   83  Linux native



 fdisk /dev/hdb
The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 20510.
This is larger than 1024, and may cause problems with:
1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., LILO)
2) booting and partitioning software form other OSs
   (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)

Command (m for help): p

Disk /dev/hdb: 81 heads, 228 sectors, 20510 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 18468 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot   BeginStart  End   Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hdb111  111  1024860b  Unknown
Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary:
 phys=(878, 80, 36) should be (878, 80, 228)
/dev/hdb2  112  112  854  68608625  Extended
Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary:
 phys=(853, 80, 36) should be (853, 80, 228)
/dev/hdb5  112  112  854  6860748   83  Linux native


i try many operations on this HD, that's why there is many tries 
with fdisk ...




Xavier

__
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



printing

1998-11-21 Thread claydona
sure this ranks as a newbie question so let me know if it is misplaced,

My printer hp deskjet portable has started to work using the default 
printcap file.  (foolishly not saved as printcap.old)

After editing it as suggested in 't printing HOW-To to give carriage returns:

lp|dj|deskjet:\
   :sd=/var/spool/lpd/dj:\
   :mx#0:\
   :lp=/dev/lp0:\
   :if=/var/spool/lpd/DJ500/deskjet-filter
   :sh:
where deskjet-filter is properly chmoded in that directory,

I get:
lpd: Fatal error - Another print spooler is using TCP printer port possibly
lpd process '170'

can anyone remind me of the original printcap file (?) or suggest
some method of resolving this.
Many thanks


Angus Claydon,
After three weeks of debian I've got mc, lynx, ircII bsd-games
bc fetchmail elm+me*^% ncftp all working properly X? forget it for now!


Stable 2.1.x Kernel?

1998-11-21 Thread bluehell
Hi Debian users!

Which development kernel is considered stable enough to use in a 
productive machine? I need the video4linux-support in it!

-- 
Thanx in advance,
Mike.


Re: printing

1998-11-21 Thread Alan Tam
Use ' magicfilterconfig --force ' to create a new printcap file to suit your 
needs.

Alan


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 sure this ranks as a newbie question so let me know if it is misplaced,

 My printer hp deskjet portable has started to work using the default
 printcap file.  (foolishly not saved as printcap.old)

 After editing it as suggested in 't printing HOW-To to give carriage returns:

 lp|dj|deskjet:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/dj:\
:mx#0:\
:lp=/dev/lp0:\
:if=/var/spool/lpd/DJ500/deskjet-filter
:sh:
 where deskjet-filter is properly chmoded in that directory,

 I get:
 lpd: Fatal error - Another print spooler is using TCP printer port possibly
 lpd process '170'

 can anyone remind me of the original printcap file (?) or suggest
 some method of resolving this.
 Many thanks

 Angus Claydon,
 After three weeks of debian I've got mc, lynx, ircII bsd-games
 bc fetchmail elm+me*^% ncftp all working properly X? forget it for now!

 --
 Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /dev/null


Ispell (British English please)

1998-11-21 Thread C.J.LAWSON
Hi,
I am trying to locate a British version of ispell ... does anyone
know where I can find a precompiled version || a premunched british-hash
..


Regards

---
Jonathan Lawson 
Thermal Processes Unit 
Department of Applied Energy and Optical Diagnostics 
School of Mechanical Engineering, 
Cranfield  University, 
Cranfield, Bedford. UK.  
email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good 
tidings, 
that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, 
that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, 
Thy God reigneth!

Isaiah 
52:7


Re: dammit (netscape)

1998-11-21 Thread wb4mle
On Fri, 20 Nov 1998 21:28:40 -0800 (PST), you wrote:



If I have to downgrade the entire system back to HAMM I will if that is
what it takes to get a web browser. What is so difficult about it?

Hello George- I also had X foul up Netscape. I reinstalled the
Communicator 4.05 from netscape with their install script after
release -6 of the X packages. Did not have to fool with NLSPATH. Am
using the Comm4.05 now with the -8 packages and 2.1.129 kernel with no
problems.
-- 
Eddie Seymour, WB4MLE
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
PGP KEYS D/H 0xB65DC61A   RSA 0x935801A9


Re: Ispell (British English please)

1998-11-21 Thread Oliver Elphick
C.J.LAWSON wrote:
  Hi,
   I am trying to locate a British version of ispell ... does anyone
  know where I can find a precompiled version || a premunched british-hash
  ..
 
Debian package ibritish

-- 
Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Isle of Wight  http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver
   PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1
 
 A new commandment I give unto you; That ye love one 
  another. As I have loved you, so ye also must love one
  another.  By this shall all men know that ye are my 
  disciples, if ye have love one to another.
 John 13:34,35 



Re: libsvga

1998-11-21 Thread Adrian Bridgett
On Wed, Nov 18, 1998 at 12:01:06AM -0500, Phil Dyer wrote:
 Hi all,
 Trying to upgrade to svgalibg1.0.3 or dummy but dpkg won't let me
 replace the current svgalib.  Just trying to install gs, ghostview.  How
 do I get around this?
 thanks,
 dyer

more info needed - what's the error message and how are you trying to
upgrade? 

Adrian

email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.poboxes.com/adrian.bridgett
Windows NT - Unix in beta-testing.   PGP key available on public key servers
Avoid tiresome goat sacrifices  -=-  use Debian Linux http://www.debian.org


Re: Stable 2.1.x Kernel?

1998-11-21 Thread Dale E. Martin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Which development kernel is considered stable enough to use in a 
 productive machine? I need the video4linux-support in it!

You're asking a question that doesn't make a whole lot of sense.  Which
development kernel is stable?  By definition, none.

Now for the useful answer.  I've had good luck with 2.1.104 and 2.1.125.
I'd stay away from 2.1.126,127, and 128.  On the linux kernel mailing list,
the jury is still out 2.1.129.  Linus seems to think that it's _very_ close
to being 2.2, but some people have had problems with it.

Hope this info is useful to you.

Later,
Dale
-- 
+  finger for pgp public key  -+
| Dale E. Martin |  Clifton Labs, Inc.  |  Senior Computer Engineer|
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]|http://www.clifton-labs.com |
+--+


Packages for writing tcl/tk programs

1998-11-21 Thread D. Vrabel
Hi,

What packages do I need to write tcl/tk programs.  I need to incorperate
them into C/C++ programs.

Thanks

David.

David Vrabel
Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.


RE: Packages for writing tcl/tk programs

1998-11-21 Thread Shaleh
You need the tcl/tk packages (the 8.0 is preferred) and the tcl/tk -dev
packages.  There is a visual tcl package which is a wysiwyg tcl/tk program
environ.


On 21-Nov-98 D. Vrabel wrote:
 Hi,
 
 What packages do I need to write tcl/tk programs.  I need to incorperate
 them into C/C++ programs.
 


Re: Packages for writing tcl/tk programs

1998-11-21 Thread Peter Berlau
On Sat, Nov 21, 1998 at 03:30:01PM +, D. Vrabel wrote:
 Hi,
Hi,
try the `et' package.
I assume You will find it under the optional development
package, but I'm not sure,
I have the sources of et and build it therefrom

-- 
Cheers
   Peter


Re: Kernel compilation error / Kernel too big.

1998-11-21 Thread Ed Cogburn
Andrew Ivanov wrote:
 
 I have binutils 2.9.1-0.2 installed, which is what I think , at least
 this is a requirement for kernel source, as it's said on www.debian.org
 And compilation ran with binutils installed, and I got that error.
 Andrew
 


The as86 program is in the 'bin86' package, NOT binutils.


-- 
Ed C.


Re: Advice on Hardware

1998-11-21 Thread D'jinnie
:   The current stable linux kernels don't have support for PnP.  There is
:a package called 'isapnptools' that can initialize PnP cards, but only
:on ISA bus cards; yours is a PCI card.  Before giving up, try checking
:your computer's BIOS program.  It may be able to initialize PnP cards at
:bootup by itself.  My BIOS (AMI) has this feature (which saves me much
:grief).

I haven't had any problems getting isapnp to see my PCI sound card...of
course, I can't quite tell if the sound module or isapnp is making it
work, but whatever it is, it does a great job :) I have AMI BIOS as well,
I'm not sure what specific feature it is that initializes sound card, but
don't set the BIOS to think that the OS is PnP compliant or whatever,
because as soon as I did that, nothing worked :(

---
Every program is part of another program, and rarely fits.

D'jinnie/Jinn, encountered on IRC and select MU**. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key


mysql

1998-11-21 Thread Yosef B
Is there a deb for mysql and if so where is it?

TIA

L Baker



remapping pine keys?

1998-11-21 Thread D'jinnie
Is there any way for me to tell pine to use different Ctrl-keys? I'm
getting tired of wanting to hit Ctrl-X to send, and hitting Ctrl-C instead
(they're right next to each other, in case this was not known :). I still
like pine but little annoying things like that are getting to me...

---
Every program is part of another program, and rarely fits.

D'jinnie/Jinn, encountered on IRC and select MU**. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key


procmail....................

1998-11-21 Thread Phillip Neumann
Hello,



Promail is for filtering mails isnit? Well how do it work?

It takes the /var/spool/mail/user file and prosess it??


I have in my ~/.promailrc file:
MAILDIR=/home/filsin/Mail


:0
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
debian-english

:0
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
debian-spanish


How do i make it work? First i run fetchmail to get the mails, and then when 
running `procmail' the xterm stops... 





Slow mail delivery

1998-11-21 Thread wax_man
I'm reposting this message since I've never seen my original come
through:

I'm having problems with mail delivery on my local box.  When I d/l my
mail from my isp (using fetchmail), it is taking over 5 minutes
(probably closer to 10) for the mail to get delivered, i.e. for the
machine to say I have new mail, not for it to come down from my isp. 
Any ideas on what could be causing this, and how to fix it?

Thanks,

Chris


Re: wdm problems? [was: Re: Exploring the recent QT open source issue.]

1998-11-21 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

On 21 Nov 1998, Paul Seelig wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Gunthorpe) writes:
 
  wdm comes -very- close to providing this, it unfortunately has a few
  problems with the users ~/.xsession that prevent me from using it :
   
 Care to be more explicit in this matter?  I'm using wdm-1.0-2 here
 with much pleasure and didn't experience any problems with ~/.xsession
 so far ...

Erm, it doesn't actually read it? It also ignores the users
~/.Xresources.. This is all with the latest X from slink.

Jason


Re: procmail....................

1998-11-21 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Sat, Nov 21, 1998 at 04:57:43PM -0300, Phillip Neumann wrote:
 Promail is for filtering mails isnit?

Yes.

 It takes the /var/spool/mail/user file and prosess it??

It can do that, but I wouldn'r recommend it.  Procmail is better used
as part of the mail delivery process.  Which MTA (mail transfer agent)
are you using?  You probably have exim, smail, sendmail or qmail;
which is it?

 :0
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 debian-english

As you are filtering to a mailbox, you /must/ use file locking; so,
put a colon after the 0 on the first line.  This is mandatory; you
will trash your mail if you don't use locking.

 :0
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 debian-spanish

Same here.

 How do i make it work? First i run fetchmail to get the mails, and
 then when running `procmail' the xterm stops...

Procmail expects to see the mail message on stdin.  You'd do better by
putting procmail into the delivery process, so it will process the
messages automatically, but in order to tell you how it is done, I
must know a bit of your setup.  As I asked above: which MTA are you
using?



Antti-Juhani
-- 
%%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%%
NOTE: I am migrating to a new setup.  There may still be problems with
my mail/news headers, so *please* trust the above addresses more than
the addresses in the headers.  I hope I'll get this working ASAP.


Re: procmail....................

1998-11-21 Thread Phillip Neumann
hello,

Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote:

 On Sat, Nov 21, 1998 at 04:57:43PM -0300, Phillip Neumann wrote:
  Promail is for filtering mails isnit?

 Yes.

  It takes the /var/spool/mail/user file and prosess it??

 It can do that, but I wouldn'r recommend it.  Procmail is better used
 as part of the mail delivery process.  Which MTA (mail transfer agent)
 are you using?  You probably have exim, smail, sendmail or qmail;
 which is it?


I use exim...



  :0
  * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  debian-english

 As you are filtering to a mailbox, you /must/ use file locking; so,
 put a colon after the 0 on the first line.  This is mandatory; you
 will trash your mail if you don't use locking.


mmm, i just want to make me sure what a colon is.... or ,  ??




  :0
  * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  debian-spanish

 Same here.

  How do i make it work? First i run fetchmail to get the mails, and
  then when running `procmail' the xterm stops...

 Procmail expects to see the mail message on stdin.  You'd do better by
 putting procmail into the delivery process, so it will process the
 messages automatically, but in order to tell you how it is done, I
 must know a bit of your setup.  As I asked above: which MTA are you
 using?


Well i use exim...


ok, now how do i put procmail in the deliver proces??

Thanks!


 Antti-Juhani
 --
 %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%%
 NOTE: I am migrating to a new setup.  There may still be problems with
 my mail/news headers, so *please* trust the above addresses more than
 the addresses in the headers.  I hope I'll get this working ASAP.

--
 __
/ /
   /  Phillip  Neumann   /
  / [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /
_/_/




Re: Slow mail delivery

1998-11-21 Thread Robert V. MacQuarrie

Hi ..
This has been a problem for myself aswell. I used to run a few
mailing lists (500+ people on each) with smartlist and smail. Things
worked great and as an email came in it was sent out to the list vary
quickly.
Since I have upgraded to sendmail 8.8.8-20 i'm almost afraid to
start the larger lists back up. After the mail comes in it sits in the
/var/spool/mqueue directory for about 5 minutes then can take up to
another 10 minutes to forward it to a list of 50 people. I believe it
also queues all out-going mail aswell. This is not good.
I have been told that there is an option to not queue incoming
mail but no-one has been able to tell me what it is and i have not been
able to find it in the docs.
If anyone can tell me (and obviously a few others) how can we
speed up the processing and sending of mail. Opinions of changing from
sendmail to smail of qmail are not a solution or option. 

Any help to sort this problem is very much needed.

-Rob




On Sat, 21 Nov 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm reposting this message since I've never seen my original come
 through:
 
 I'm having problems with mail delivery on my local box.  When I d/l my
 mail from my isp (using fetchmail), it is taking over 5 minutes
 (probably closer to 10) for the mail to get delivered, i.e. for the
 machine to say I have new mail, not for it to come down from my isp. 
 Any ideas on what could be causing this, and how to fix it?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Chris


Unidentified subject!

1998-11-21 Thread l chinsky
how can i install internet via a modem under linux?
please help me
thanks for the answer


Re: procmail....................

1998-11-21 Thread Jason Lunz
On Sat, Nov 21, 1998 at  4:57PM -0300, Phillip Neumann wrote:

Hey Phillip, a couple of things should get you set up:

 :0
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 debian-english
 
 :0
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 debian-spanish

These rules won't do what you want. They should be:

:0:
* ^To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
debian-english

:0:
* ^To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
debian-spanish

The extra colons tell procmail to use lockfiles, which will avoid potential
problems with receiving two pieces of mail simultaneously. The rules also
needed to be changed...the .* means zero or more characters.

 How do i make it work? First i run fetchmail to get the mails, and then
 when running `procmail' the xterm stops... 

Secondly, you need to set up a .forward that sends all incoming mail
through procmail automatically. Mine looks like:

|exec /usr/bin/procmail

That's it...just one line. This makes procmail look at each piece of mail
that comes in.

good luck,

J


Re: problems with locate

1998-11-21 Thread Kevin Dalley
There is a second possibility.  The file you are looking for is in a
directory which is not readable and executable by world.  updatedb is
run by nobody, which doesn't have any real permissions.  Running
updatedb as root will allow everyone's files to be listed, even if the
directory are not world readable.  There is a version of updatedb which
is being investigated which records all files, with permissions.  The
corresponding locate only releases information which is accessible by
the user.  Of course, the database is larger.


--
Kevin Dalley
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: mysql

1998-11-21 Thread Remco van de Meent
On Sat, Nov 21, 1998 at 09:17:22PM +0200, Yosef B wrote:

 : Is there a deb for mysql and if so where is it?

Yup:

  slink/main/binary-i386/devel/mysql-base_3.21.33b-4.deb
  slink/main/binary-i386/devel/mysql-dev_3.21.33b-4.deb
  slink/main/binary-i386/devel/mysql-doc_3.21.33b-4.deb
  slink/non-free/binary-i386/devel/mysql-server_3.21.33b-2.deb


Cheers,
 -Remco


Re: procmail....................

1998-11-21 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Sat, Nov 21, 1998 at 04:53:30PM -0500, Jason Lunz wrote:
  :0
  * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  debian-english
...
 These rules won't do what you want. They should be:

Incorrect.  According to procmailrc(5), they're just fine, even better
than your suggestion (except that they need the lockfile as you
suggested).

 :0:
 * ^To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 debian-english

This will miss a mail with [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Resent-To, but the
original recipe does not.

Personally I match against the X-Mailing-List headers, supplied by
Smartlist.  This way mail sent to a list and cc'd to me gets sorted to
both the list archive and my personal mail folder, and it won't miss
bcc's to list.  Like this:

:0:
* X-Mailing-List: debian-(devel|bugs-(dist|forwarded|closed)|policy|doc)
Mail/debian-development

:0:
* X-Mailing-List: debian-(hurd|testing|mentors)
Mail/debian-development

:0:
* X-Mailing-List: debian-
Mail/debian-general

Note that I sort all debian-related mailing lists out of my personal
mailbox.  All development-related mail goes to Mail/debian-development
and everything else (like debian-user) goes to Mail/debian-general.
/And/ I get a copy of cc'd mail to my personal mail folder (since I
get two copies, one with X-Mailing-List and one without), which helps
spotting them from all the incoming mail (hundreds a day).

 The rules also needed to be changed...

No.  Please read the MISCELLANEOUS section of procmailrc(5).

 the .* means zero or more characters.

Yes.  However, the ^TO macro is far superior to mindless matching of
any character: the macro will match only whole addresses; partial
matches are not allowed by ^TO.


Antti-Juhani
-- 
%%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%%
NOTE: I am migrating to a new setup.  There may still be problems with
my mail/news headers, so *please* trust the above addresses more than
the addresses in the headers.  I hope I'll get this working ASAP.


tcp wrapper

1998-11-21 Thread Sibuyas Bombay
i was wondering whether there's debian package for tcpwrapper ... can someone
please tell me where do i find it ?
sib

-
A world of Information. The journey begins here. At Home.
Internet Cebu's web based mail. http://www.i-mailbox.net


Installing a modem connection (was:Re: Unidentified subject!)

1998-11-21 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Sat, Nov 21, 1998 at 09:56:03PM +0100, l chinsky wrote:
 how can i install internet via a modem under linux?

What do you mean?  Do you want to install Debian over modem, or you
have already a working Debian system and you want to hook it up to the
net via modem?  If the latter, we need to know several things.  Have
you used the net over modem with some other operating system (like
Windows)?  How did you do that?  If not, can you please tell us what
instructions your Internet Service Provider has given you?



Antti-Juhani
-- 
%%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%%
NOTE: I am migrating to a new setup.  There may still be problems with
my mail/news headers, so *please* trust the above addresses more than
the addresses in the headers.  I hope I'll get this working ASAP.


How to customize fvwm entries ?

1998-11-21 Thread shaul
My /etc/X11/fvwm2/menudefs.hook has the following entry for lyx:

[23:36:37 shaul]$ grep lyx /etc/X11/fvwm2/menudefs.hook 
+ lyx Exec/usr/X11R6/bin/lyx
[23:38:51 shaul]

I want to change it to 

+ lyx Exec /usr/X11R6/bin/lyx -width 631 -height 461

I tried to create a ~fvwm2/post.hook with that line. Which works.
But now my menu has to entries for lyx. The first one is the old entry, the 
one without the -width customization. And the second one is what I added.

How to get rid of / modify the original entry ?

Thank you.




Re: tcp wrapper

1998-11-21 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, 22 Nov 1998, Sibuyas Bombay wrote:

 : i was wondering whether there's debian package for tcpwrapper ... can someone
 : please tell me where do i find it ?
 : sib

wiz:~ $ dpkg -S /usr/sbin/tcpd
netbase: /usr/sbin/tcpd

It's already part of netbase, which is priority Standard so it's
probably already installed.

See `man 8 tcpd' and `man 5 hosts_access'. 

--
Nathan Norman
MidcoNet  410 South Phillips Avenue  Sioux Falls, SD
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.midco.net
finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)



Re: recognition ide (was :ide)

1998-11-21 Thread Laurent PICOULEAU
On Sat, Nov 21, 1998 at 01:06:45PM +0100, Rx wrote:
 ok, this time i've more information :
 
 my debian linux doesn't recognize well my HD ibm 8.4 GB 
 
 here are some messages from dmesg, cfdisk and fdisk
 note : under cfdisk, my hd seems to have 189 GB 
 
 I include the bios autodetection :
 size cyl head precomp landz sector mode
 8447 1027 255 0  16382   63 LBA
 8455 16383 16 65535  16382   63 normal
 8452 2047 128 65535  16382   63 large
 
 which one do i need to choose ?

That doesn't really matter if you don't intend to use fat16. On one
hand, the second choice will give you a slighty bigger size on the 
other hand fat16 can only acceed to the first 1024 cylinders and you 
can be concerned by the fact that lilo need to find the kernel image
in the first 1024 cylinders too.

 i tried all of them, no one seems to work.
 (every time linux recognize 189 GB and dos see the right size (8.4GB))
[...] 
 ide: i82371 PIIX (Triton) on PCI bus 0 function 33
 ide0: BM-DMA at 0xc800-0xc807
 ide1: BM-DMA at 0xc808-0xc80f
 hdb: IBM-DTTA-350840, 8063MB w/467kB Cache, CHS=20510/81/228, UDMA

Some remarks :
 1) The disk is well detected with the good size (8063MB) but the CHS are 
wrong
 2) Why is there no hda ? Could you verify if you have jumpered your drive
correctly (it should be master or single but not slave) perhaps that will
suffice to resolve your problem
 3) UDMA drive : I don't know how well linux supports UDMA controllers but I
think that UDMA drives on EIDE controller are o.k.

[...]
 $ fdisk /dev/hdb
 The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 1027
 
 Disk /dev/hdb: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1027 cylinders
 Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
 

These values seems reasonnable with LBA option in your BIOS

Device Boot   BeginStart  End   Blocks   Id  System
 /dev/hdb1  2561   65   516064+   6  DOS 16-bit =32M
 Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary:
  phys=(55, 72, 36) should be (55, 254, 63)
 /dev/hdb2   57   57 1027  7799557+   f  Unknown

Strange again, your partitions are overlapping : how did you created them ?
 
 cfdisk 0.8j
 
Disk Drive: /dev/hdb
Heads: 81   Sectors per Track: 228   Cylinders: 20510
 
Wrong CHS, don't bother to insist with cfdisk

  fdisk  /dev/hdb
 The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 20510.
 This is larger than 1024, and may cause problems with:
 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., LILO)
 2) booting and partitioning software form other OSs
(e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)
 
Wrong CHS: no hopes again unless you use expert mode but I think that you
should stay away from it.

 i try many operations on this HD, that's why there is many tries 
 with fdisk ...

Describing WHAT you did could have been helpful to understand what happened. 
Anyway if jumpering the drive as master (or single) don't solve the problem 
you can indicate the right parameters during the boot or in lilo.conf. In 
your case you'll have to type hdb=16383,16,63 (well, give the same numbers 
than what your BIOS says)

-- 
Laurent PICOULEAU
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: dammit (netscape)

1998-11-21 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.

If nothing else, try installing 3.0 :)  There shouldn't be a conflict 
there.  

Also, manually edit the staus file to remove any indications netscape 
is installed.

rick

-- 



Re: Future of Linux (.so contracts)

1998-11-21 Thread Bruce Stephens
Davide Bolcioni [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The concept seems very interesting to me, although I wonder if it is
 within the scope of LSB; I had the notion that its effort was
 concerned with standardizing existing development approaches.

Probably it's not [it being TenDRA].  On the other hand, having
available tools for checking conformance with LSB would be valuable.

 On the other hand, however, the above approach as far as I can see
 does not address one of my major concerns, namely the fact that in a
 library function there is more than the signature.

Absolutely.  As a trivial example: what does malloc(0) return?  I
suppose what my real point was: if the open source culture was such
that it was normal to provide a reasonably abstract declaration of
APIs to libraries, then probably people would want to specify their
semantics too.  (But the semantics would be informal, I suspect.
After all, how could it practically be otherwise?)

I'm not really suggesting that TenDRA provides anything really
compelling.  It provides a syntax that's a bit more abstract that
ordinary C header files, and some nice tools for fiddling with these
files.