Re: Nethack
Bueno, otro forofo del Nethack ;) Estoy dispuesto a ayudar en la traducción del Nethack si todavía esta no se ha hecho, por lo menos en lo que mi tiempo me permita.. Saludete Javi On Mon, Nov 30, 1998 at 09:51:03AM +, Jose Eugenio Marchesi Corcostegui wrote: Saludos, Entre otras cosas, soy un asiduo y enganchado jugador de Nethack, ademas de un ferviente defensor de los juegos DD de este estilo. Sin algarabias graficas ni nada por el estilo. Pues bien, me gusta traducir los juegos que me parecen buenos, y suelo hacerlo cuando poseo el codigo fuente. Sin embargo, NetHack es un programa inmenso y complejo, pese a lo (...)
Re: Programación de GUI
Hola a todos, quiero montarle una GUI a un programa ya escrito que funciona actualmente mediante la linea de comandos (tipo programa -opción interminable lista de argumentos) y se me han ocurrido dos opciones: * Tcl/Tk por su portabilidad total. * Interfaz del tipo la que usa gEdit ¿usa gtk o gdk? (no se si esportable a otros UNIXes). Necesito que funcione tanto bajo Linux como Solaris. Hola: No has pensado en Java? Yo he trabajado con Tcl/Tk y Java, y , la verdad, prefiero el segundo. Desde mi punto de vista Java es mucho m'as portable que Tcl/Tk, y seguramente m'as r'apido. Adem'as, si luego quieres insertar alguna rutina en C (p. ej., para controlar/montar alg'un dispositivo) es mucho m'as sencillo . Con Tcl/Tk tienes que reescribir todo el programa en C. Hay compiladores y m'aquinas virtuales para todos los UNIXes. Es s'olo una sugerencia. Un saludo. Virgilio
Re: Arranque desde disco duro
Hola: Yo te aconsejar'ia que usases el LOADLIN. Desde mi punto de vista es m'as seguro que el Lilo porque no tienes que tocar para nada el MBR. El loadlin se ejecuta desde DOS, as'i que puede hacer un men'u en el Autoexec.bat y arrancar sin tener que esperar a que te cargue todo el dos. El Loadlin es PERFECTO para los NOVATOS, bueno, y en general para todos (yo llevo tres anyos con el Linux y me convence m'as que el Lilo). Un saludo. Virgilio
Re: Debian y KDE
On Mon, Nov 30, 1998 at 10:15:25AM +0100, Nacho Priego wrote: Alguien sabe cual es la nueva posicion oficial de Debian respecto a KDE ahora que la version 2.0 de Qt va a ser libre (a nuestro estilo)? De momento no hay posición oficial. Parece que hay consenso en que el borrador actual de la QPL pasa las DFSG, aunque tiene pequeñas incompatibilidades con la GPL (lo que seguiría afectando al KDE, que está también discutiendo una nueva licencia). Hay gente de Debian colaborando con Troll Tech para eliminar esas incompatibilidades. Es probable que el KDE y las Qt puedan entrar en main si todo va bien. Hola: Yo quer'ia hacer un pequenyo comentario porque creo que viene al caso. Resulta que el otro d'ia, rebuscando entre los funetes de las libc, estuve leyendo las licencias de varias rutinas y, cual fue mi sorpresa, que el autor permit'ia su distribuci'on libre s'olo si se usaba para hacer software de libre distribuci'on, pero exig'ia un pago si no se hac'ia as'i. Por si a alguien le sirve, esto lo encontr'e en el directorio en el que se encuentran las rutinas matem'aticas para i386 (debajo de sysdeps o algo as'i). No pasa (o pasaba) lo mismo con QT? Entonces, por qu'e tanta pol'emica? Por qu'e no se han incluido ya, junto con el KDE? Un saludo. Virgilio
Re: Debian y KDE
On Tue, Dec 01, 1998 at 11:09:13AM +0100, Gomez Rubio Virgilio wrote: Yo quer'ia hacer un pequenyo comentario porque creo que viene al caso. Resulta que el otro d'ia, rebuscando entre los funetes de las libc, estuve leyendo las licencias de varias rutinas y, cual fue mi sorpresa, que el autor permit'ia su distribuci'on libre s'olo si se usaba para hacer software de libre distribuci'on, pero exig'ia un pago si no se hac'ia as'i. Por si a alguien le sirve, esto lo encontr'e en el directorio en el que se encuentran las rutinas matem'aticas para i386 (debajo de sysdeps o algo as'i). Ya que te has tomado la molestia de buscarlas, ¿podrías también copiar dichas licencias en tu mensaje? Te juro que aunque me interesa muchísimo tu comentario, no tengo el tiempo necesario para andar buceando por las fuentes de la libc. No pasa (o pasaba) lo mismo con QT? Entonces, por qu'e tanta pol'emica? Por qu'e no se han incluido ya, junto con el KDE? Porque si tienes razón, la solución es exactamente la inversa: eliminar ese código de la libc, mientras no se modifiquen esas licencias. Tienes que entender que las razones por las cuales KDE no podía ir en Debian (la incompatibilidad de las licencias) son estrictamente un problema legal, que se aplica a cualquier código en circunstancias similares (aquí hay igualdad ante la ley), así que si la libc está en ese caso (lo cuál sería un gravísimo error de sus mantenedores, y me extrañaría muchísimo que hubiese pasado desapercibido a la gente de la FSF) hay que seguir el mismo procedimiento que con el KDE. Saludos, -- Enrique Zanardi[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lenguaje de programación para gestión
David el día Thu, Oct 22, 1998 at 09:29:02AM +0100 expuso lo siguiente: Hola, soy un aficionado a quien le gusta hacer programas sobre gestión mayoritariamente, y me encuentro con una duda. He leído muchos artículos sobre Linux y en comparación con windows es superior; sólo le falta mejorar la facilidad de uso. El problema es elegir un lenguaje/s ideal para tal tarea. Gestión de datos --- Visual Foxpro o Visual Basic ---Windows --- ¿? ---Linux Tengo instalado la Debian y tengo que reconocer que no es muy facil; por lo menos si estás acostumbrado con windows, pero poquito a poco voy aprendiendo. No se me ha colgado esta ahora, cosa que no puedo decir de windows. Quiero darle mas oportunidades a Linux pero tengo que encontrar un lenguaje en el que hacer los programas. Podéis darme vuestra opinión ? Pues para gestión de datos nada mejor que PostgreSQL, en combinación con el lenguaje de programación que mejor se ajuste a tu gusto. De entre los que soporta ésta base de datos tienes; C, Perl y TCL/Tk. Este último tiene la gran ventaja de que puedes currarte una GUI para el entorno X de una manera relativamente sencilla. -- Have a nice day ;-) Grupo AGUILA TooManySecretsHay gente que vive y merece morir, y gente que muere y merece vivir. ¿Puedes devolver la vida? Pues no te apresures a dispensarla, ya que ni el más sabio conoce el fin de todos los caminos Gandalf (The Lord of the Rings)
mas instalacion postgres
Hola: He tenido problemas con el disco duro y al final he tenido que reinstalar Hamm. Po eso no he podido contestar afradeciendo a todos vuestra ayuda con el dpkg. No puedo hacerlo con replis personales por que he perdido los mails mas recientes. Tambien gracias alos que me mandaron los archivos que pedi. Un saludo -- == Ricardo Lloret [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==
Re: Debian y KDE
On Tue, 1 Dec 1998, Enrique Zanardi wrote: Ya que te has tomado la molestia de buscarlas, ¿podrías también copiar dichas licencias en tu mensaje? Te juro que aunque me interesa muchísimo tu comentario, no tengo el tiempo necesario para andar buceando por las fuentes de la libc. Vale, aqu´i va. Es el fichero sysdeps/linux/i386/math/copying.dj del paquete libc_5.4.38.orig.tar.gz . Imagino que se debe a alguna pieza de c'odigo de las libc5. Aqu'i empieza... This is the file copying.dj. Copyright Information for sources and executables that are marked Copyright (C) DJ Delorie 24 Kirsten Ave Rochester NH 03867-2954 This document is Copyright (C) DJ Delorie and may be distributed verbatim, but changing it is not allowed. Source code and executables copyright DJ Delorie are referred to as djcode in this document. Source code copyright DJ Delorie is distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public Licence, with the following exceptions: 1 If the user of this software develops an application that requires djcode to run, and that application is distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License (GPL), a binary executable of djcode may be distributed with binary executables of the application, and source files for djcode must be available with source files for the application, under the terms of the GNU GPL. 2 If the user of this software develops an application that requires djcode to run, and that application is NOT distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License (GPL), a binary executable of djcode may be distributed with binary executables of the application, provided a royalty of 5% of the total sale price or $5 (whichever is more) per copy sold is paid to DJ Delorie (at the address above). 3 A person or organization who develops software that requires djcode but does not distribute that software under the terms of the GNU GPL relinquishes all rights to obtain or redistribute the source code for djcode, including any rights granted by the GNU General Public License, and may only distribute executables of djcode under the terms of exception 2, above. Basically, the GNU GPL only applies to my code if it applies to your code. A copy of the file COPYING is included with this document. If you did not receive a copy of COPYING, you may obtain one from whence this document was obtained, or by writing: Free Software Foundation 675 Mass Ave Cambridge, MA 02139 USA Y aqu'i acaba... Reley'endolo parece que no se refiere exactamente al c'odigo fuente que pueda haber en las libc5, pero me extrany'o mucho ver algo as'i.Creo que todo est'a en orden, as'i que disculpad las molestias. Un saludo. Virgilio
Sobre la configuración de emacs
Hola! Quería configurar el emacs para poder coger el diccionario de español y trabajar con él en ispell. ¿Alguien sabe cómo hacerlo? Tomás. _ Tomas Bautista. Phone: +34 928 451275 -- Fax: +34 928 451243 / ___)_ E-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (___ \ Home page URL: http://www.cma.ulpgc.es/users/bautista \_) |Centre for Applied Microelectronics, CAD Division. (_/ University of Las Palmas de G.C. Campus de Tafira, pab. A. E-35017 Las Palmas, Canary Is. Message of the day: NFS localhost not responding still trying
Re: Problema con CDROM PIONEER
Creo que Carlos tiene razñn, a mí me han llegado muchas quejas de algunos CDs, yo los hize, y puedo atestiguar que están bien (y muchos no dan ningún problema). Ya se lo conté a la lista, al parecer las estampadoras, para abaratar costes, graban en CDs con menos plástico (es decir, menos soporte físico). Lo cual da problemas en algunas lectoras de alta velocidad. El mismo CD lo pruebas en una x4 o x8 y no da pegas ninguna. Ha habido algunos CDs que han salido mal, te sugiero que te pongas en contacto con la editorial y les pidas que te envíen otro. Si no te hacen caso dímelo a mí, porque voy a flagelarles personalmente (ya se de una persona que no le han hecho ni caso y cuando vaya esta semana les voy a poner a caldo) Un saludo Javi PD: Acaba de salir según creo LA5, a ver si esta vez han hecho bien el CD. En éste último número va debian/contrib y debian/non-free tanto de hamm como de slink. Así como el software de los artículos (KDE, CVS...) On Tue, Dec 01, 1998 at 09:44:48AM +0100, Carlos Martinez Txakartegi wrote: Aupa gente, El fallo siempre es el mismo, al intentar montar el CD. (...) hdc: irq timeout: status=0x51 hdc: irq timeout: error=0x60 [...] hdc: ATAPI reset complete [...] reset complete Y sigue así, sacando poco a poco lineas como estas. A mí esos errores me salen de vez en cuando con discos de mala calidad, normalmente con CDs estampados (o algo de eso, yo es que de CDs grabables no entiendo mucho)
Re: Sobre la configuración de emacs
Tomás Bautista wrote: Hola! Quería configurar el emacs para poder coger el diccionario de español y trabajar con él en ispell. ¿Alguien sabe cómo hacerlo? Dos cosas, primero parece que se está trabajando dentro del paquete emacsen-common en la posibilidad de que en el menú de idiomas aparezcan únicamente los idiomas para los que se ha instalado un diccionario. No se si ya está operativo o como va la cosa. Quizás Enrique Zanardi, que se encarga del diccionario spanish te pueda dar más información. En segundo lugar he conseguido hacerlo con el .emacs. Lamentablemente no he conseguido quitar los diccionarios de sueco y danés del menú, pero por lo menos he conseguido añadir los de castellano y castellano-tex después del british Te mando mi .emacs para que eches un vistazo a cómo lo he hecho. Creo que todos los caracteres extraños sobran en la parte de spanish-tex, pero tampoco molestan demasiado. Saludos, -- = Agustín Martín Domingo, Dpto. de Física, ETS Arquitectura Madrid, (U. Politécnica de Madrid) tel: +34 91-336-6536, Fax: +34 91-336-6554, email:[EMAIL PROTECTED], http://corbu.aq.upm.es/~agmartin/welcome.html .emacs Description: Binary data
GNOME, KDE, StarOffice5.0 y Microsoft
Hola a todos: ¿Alguien sabe si el equipo de GNOME (del que forma parte RedHat) ha hecho algun comunicado o postura oficial acerca de la modificacion de la licencia de Qt?. En todo caso me gustaria saber de posturas oficiosas que me confirmaran el estado en que estan ahora las cosas porque las noticias que pude leer a traves de www.linuxhq.com hacian referencia a un desánimo importante (dada la desaparacion virtual de una de las motivaciones del proyecto) aunque posteriores comentarios relativizaban este aspecto (ostras, es que en las listas de distribucion sobre KDE y GNOME, a la gente se le calienta la lengua que es un primor). El tema me interesa en tanto en cuanto tengo entendido que aparte del tema de la licencia, el GNOME es mas avanzado en cuanto a diseño y perspectivos. ¿Alguien podria concretarme mas sobre este aspecto?. Personalmente me parecería un lástima que esto se frenara ahora, ya que estaba firmemente decidido a utilizarlo a pesar de que actualmente tengo instalado el KDE. Por otra parte, lo último que he leido en la web de GNOME es que esta previsto congelar la 1.0 en diciembre y allá por febrero/marzo sacar la oficial. When do you think GNOME will be ready to capture the desktop of the average computer user? Miguel: We are planning on freezing the source tree for the core libraries in GNOME sometime at the end of December, the first public release of GNOME should happen a couple of months after that. Por lo que se refiere a StarOffice 5.0 a los interesados en bajarla, (publicada por la revista PC ACTUAL) la direccion es: ftp://atlante.dis.ulpgc.es/pub/linux Yo la tengo instalada, y como opinion personal es que jala memoria que da gusto. Las necesidades minimas son 32 Mb, pero como no tengas a partir de 64 lo vas a tener un poco crudo (me refiero a abrir mas de un documento y trabajar por ejemplo en un entorno de desarrollo que es nuestro Laboratorio habitual), ya que va muy bien cuando no le falta memoria, pero si ha de empezar a hacer swap, se degrada bastante. Por otra parte el intercambio de documentos con Office 97 ha mejorado bastante respecto a la ultima version pero sinceramente tienen que mejorarlo si lo que pretenden es que se puedan simultanear las dos suites. En nuestro caso es muy importante, ya que estamos formado parte de proyectos de investigacion europeos y nos llega bastante documentacion de Office, lo cual nos obliga a anclarnos en el Windows NT y esto nos rompe el entorno informático ya trabajamos en desarrollo con Unix de HP(bueno a partir de ahora con Debian) y es un lástima porque se desaprovechan los PCs para el calculo (cuando llegará el dia que una una suite nos haga el Office prescindible). Por cierto he probado el port de compilador GNU a Win32 por cygnus (la misma responsable del desarrollo de egcs) y en un programa escrito en C de simulación numerica me daba un 7% mas rapido bajo Windows NT que bajo linux?. Claro que cuando el programa se estaba ejecutando el sistema en enlentencía de una manera significativa (a esto es lo que yo llamo un sistema operativo multitarea!). A los que no esten enterados, los famos documentos en castellano Hallowen acerca de los planes de guerra sucia de Microsoft contra Linux estan en http://www.opensource.org/halloween.html. Bueno, creo que nunca he escrito un mensaje tan largo. Disculpas por el rollo y espero que me conteste alguien a alguna de las preguntass. Un saludo -- Ramiro Alba Laboratori de Termotecnia i Energetica Departament de Maquines i Motors Termics ETS d'Enginyers Industrials de Terrassa C/Colom 11 Tf: 34 - 93 739 82 43 Fax: 34 - 93 739 81 01 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problema con CDROM PIONEER
Aupa gente, El fallo siempre es el mismo, al intentar montar el CD. Por ejemplo en la instalación de Debian 2.0 todo va bien hasta que en DSELECT escojo el medio desde el que voy a instalar, el cdrom. Me pide el BLOCK DEVICE, le doy /dev/hdc (tengo dos discos duros y el cdrom está solo y de maestro en el segundo canal IDE) y me empieza a dar mensajes de error. Los mismos que si intento montarlo antes de ejecutar dselect. Por ejemplo con este comando: mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /cdrom (me aseguré de que el directorio /cdrom existe, al menos un ls / devuelve cdrom entre los directorios) Los mensajes que devuelve son: mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only hdc: irq timeout: status=0x51 hdc: irq timeout: error=0x60 [...] hdc: ATAPI reset complete [...] reset complete Y sigue así, sacando poco a poco lineas como estas. A mí esos errores me salen de vez en cuando con discos de mala calidad, normalmente con CDs estampados (o algo de eso, yo es que de CDs grabables no entiendo mucho)
RE: 128 MB RAM
On 30-Nov-98 Dana G Haugli wrote: Hi! I have 128 MB of RAM on my computer, but Linux only recognizes up to 64 MB. I have tried adding mem=128M to my lilo config file as recommended in the HARDWARE HOWTO, but that doesn't seem to work. Any suggestions? Thanks Dana Haugli -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Did you put «append» before mem=128M? 1. You also need to put append like that: append=mem=128M 2. After that you also need to run at the shell prompt: /sbin/lilo 3. Then reboot... Message envoyé le 30-Nov-98 à 18:40:00 Par Mario Bertrand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Icq-java and jdk1.1-runtime
Hi, The icq-java package refuse to install with the jdk1.1-runtime in slink. Any idea? Uhh, what is the problem? What are the errors it gives you? Worked just fine here, with jdk 1.1.7 on hamm. Andrew Never include a comment that will help | Andrew Ivanov someone else understand your code. | [EMAIL PROTECTED] If they understand it, they don't | ICQ: 12402354 need you. |
Re: Please help with CD writer questions
I've had a lot of trouble setting up IDE writing systems. I just had one system I was working on at my work, where the customer wanted an IDE cd-rewriter working under NT and Linux. Found out that NT wouldn't use the IDE writer, even after the drivers for SCSI emulation were installed. I did get it to work with 2.1.125 kernel with IDE-SCSI emulation, but I couldn't get either the writer or the reader to read or play audio CDs. I also couldn't get the reader to use IDE and the writer to use SCSI emulation. I ended up swapping it with a SCSI writer, which reads and writes audio. Still can't get the IDE to read audio tracks. Even though the drive says it can handle CD-DA. Also have the reading problem on my own system. Any ideas to fix it? email, please. This list is very spammy for me. --Ian On 27 Nov 1998, Gilbert Laycock wrote: You probably want to have a look at Andy McFadden's CD-Recordable FAQ, which is not Linux oriented, but does have a lot of information about the hardware. It is at http://www.fadden.com/cdrfaq/ timothy 1. I read (on NetExpress) that the shelf life of CD-R media timothyis only like 5 years. Is this true? Doesn't this suck? And timothythat CD-RW media has a shelf life of 30 years. Does this timothymean I have to get a CD-RW? I think its the other way around CD-R lasts ~25 years, CD-RW ~5 years. But I really don't remember where I read that. Aha. At the end of the FAQ there is the claim that CD-R have an unrecorded shelf life of 5-10 years, and that once recorded the estimated life is 75-100 years depending on whether you are using green or gold blanks. My impression is that most CD writers you can buy now will write both type of CD. timothy 2. What is the deal with the buffer underflow thing? I read timothy(on Computers.com) that you should have a fast SCSI timothyinterface, because if you cant feed the writer data fast timothyenough, the write will die. - Does this mean that all IDE timothyCD-Writers are useless? And what if you do get a SCSI timothyWriter, but are using an IDE hard disk? Wont you still be timothystuck? According to the FAQ above IDE writers are not much of a problem so long as the writer has a reasonable size of buffer. And I suppose it depends how you are going to use it. If you always make an image on a spare partition before writing to the CD, problems are even less likely. And you probably don't want to start writing while your machine is heavily loaded with other processes. I have an IDE CD writer (an HP CD-Writer+, 7200 series, 768K buffer) that has worked without problems for me. But I don't use it heavily. -- Gilbert Laycock email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maths and Computer Science, http://www.mcs.le.ac.uk/~glaycock Leicester Universityphone: (+44) 116 252 3902 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Can dpkg check the MD5's of *every* file belonging to a package?
One of the faculty at our university runs RedHat (blech!). He hasn't kept the packages up to date and, subsequently, has suffered an intrusion. I was called in as the recovery team. I discovered that RedHat's rpm package manager has a really cute feature. If you run rpm --verify -a, it will check the MD5 sums, user/group ownerships, sizes, and permissions of all of the files that came in any of the packages. It's VERY handy for seeing what was messed with after an intrusion. (It also flags which ones are configuration files so that you know, of the ones that fail the MD5 check, which ones you shouldn't really be as worried about). Does dpkg have something like this? As a side note, does anyone know if RedHat has a tool like dselect, that lets you fetch all of the updated packages and install them? - Joe
beginner: mouse jitters
I am trying to get the mouse running on an NEC powermate 486 sx-25 i. When installing the mouse driver from floppy, a message says, No module parameters. Depends on misc.o and the driver installation usually fails. When the driver does install and I run vgacardgames there is no pointer. When I quit the game there is a message saying that the mouse must be configured in /etc/vga/libvga.config, where I add the line, mouse PS2. After that the pointer arrow appears but hardly moves from the top right corner and instantly returns to that corner. From the busmouse HOWTO it appears to be a PS/2 type of mouse. I have also tried a program called multimouse and it behaves in the same way, but in the top left corner. The machine has a 4x cdrom drive with the debian binary-i386 cdrom. Installing from floppies until the cdrom driver is loaded. I use the internet at the local public library. ** PLEASE SEND YOUR REPLY TO SENDERS EMAIL ADDRESS ** as this address is not on the automated subscriber mailing list. *** * Get your FREE e-mail and FREE web site at FIBERIA * * http://www.fiberia.com * ***
Re: Icq-java and jdk1.1-runtime
On 01-Dec-98 Andrew Ivanov wrote: Hi, The icq-java package refuse to install with the jdk1.1-runtime in slink. Any idea? Uhh, what is the problem? What are the errors it gives you? Worked just fine here, with jdk 1.1.7 on hamm. Andrew Never include a comment that will help | Andrew Ivanov someone else understand your code. | [EMAIL PROTECTED] If they understand it, they don't | ICQ: 12402354 need you. | -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Here is the log from the command apt-get -f install icq-java | cat Updating package status cache...done Checking system integrity...ok The following packages will be REMOVED: wmaker The following NEW packages will be installed: icq-java 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 1 packages not fully installed or removed. Sorry, but the following packages are broken - this means they have unmet dependencies: icq-java: Depends:jdk1.1-runtime I have the package from slink: jdk1.1_1.1.6v4a-3.deb As you can see I have also some problem with wmaker... can't de-install can't install. Message envoyé le 30-Nov-98 à 19:23:42 Par Mario Bertrand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Help needed with compressed files
I wish to load some package files onto a laptop that has no CD-ROM drive and is not networked. Some of the .deb files are 2+MB and I can compress them using PKZIP,Winzip or rar but can linux unzip from spanned floppy disks? Any suggestions? Regards, Stephen Austanners Wet Blue Pty Ltd.~ Australian Tanned Wet Blue Leather ~110 Heales Road,Lara, Geelong, Australia3212Tel:++(03)52742232Fax:++(03)52742350mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question
In a message dated 98-11-27 01:10:29 EST, you write: Martin == Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I try to install my packages it says dpkg-perl file not found or renamed then it tells me where to put it when I search for it though its not there how do I fix this? This is very strange. Could you give us an verbatim transcript of the error? Could you also tell us what is the output of dpkg -s dpkg-perl? The files in this package are supposed to be : /usr/lib/perl5/Dpkg/Archive/FTP.pm /usr/lib/perl5/Dpkg/Archive/Mountable.pm /usr/lib/perl5/Dpkg/Archive/Directory.pm /usr/lib/perl5/Dpkg/Package/List.pm /usr/lib/perl5/Dpkg/Package/Index.pm /usr/lib/perl5/Dpkg/Package/Package.pm Do any of these exist? ok I did dpkg -s dpkg-perl and heres what I got Package: Dpkg-perl Setup: Installed ok not installed Priority: Standard Section: Devel also theres no /usr/lib/perl5/Dpkg so I dont have those files You got any suggestions on what to do?
Re: Is this really the right thing to do?
Mitch Blevins wrote: Ed Cogburn wrote: Yes, this is what I was thinking of. Right now the only way to 'associate' packages with one another, besides the section name, is to use a common prefix in the name so they show up together in the same place in dselect's screen. Imagine a user looking at the huge list of packages (in X11 section) that start with 'x'. Yes, the dependencies will auto-select most of the necessary packages if one is picked by the user, but when I did this by picking xbase, I believe 'xterm' never got auto-selected, nor is the user made aware of other 'significantly related' packages like the other xfont and xserver packages. How would a new user with little experience with Unix/X11 know he needs 'xterm'? There is one other 'association' issue that is getting worse. Imagine selecting the gnome package suite. When I did this recently, I ended up with more than *30* packages being selected for gnome support. Now suppose the user wants to remove gnome to try out KDE, for example (lets just assume they are mutually exclusive). There is no reasonable way for this user to figure out which installed packages were installed for gnome. I guess what I'm suggesting is that the packages need to 'remember' *why* they were selected, by the user, or auto-selected because of dependency requirements on a given package. When the user goes to delete gnome from his system, the other packages that were installed only because of dependencies, can 'inform' the user, somehow, that they are no longer needed. One problem with auto-deinstallation of support packages is that you may have other packages that also use the same support package. You would have to grep the dependency database to ensure you weren't removing a library/package that was used elsewhere. Even then, you may have programs in /usr/local that are not tracked by dpkg and need one of those libraries. If dpkg kept track of all packages that depend on the one we are talking about, it could 'know' when the package is no longer usefull and is merely wasting space. About usr/local: since we are talking about deb packages, I don't belive there would be a situation where a deb package in the distribution is dependent on a library that must be installed by the user. Most deb packages in the distribution are dependent only on other deb packages. The Netscape program that untill recently relied on a 'installer' deb is an exception, though, but now NS is in deb packages (in slink) so that exception is no longer valid. You also have support packages that are obviously useless by themselves (such as libraries), but what about the ones that are only 'semi-useless' by themselve. An example would be a documentation package. Suppose you want to have foo-doc installed without foo. (an avid reader) foo-doc would be part of the foo 'group', but can still be considered useful without foo. I guess that it would be up the maintainer to signify whether their packages are support-only, or usable-on-their-own. I think the best solution would be to be able to mark packages in dselect and dpkg, just like we currently have them marked as 'purge', 'hold', etc. We would just add a way to mark packages as 'installed-but-not-wanted-on-its-own-merits-so-uninstall-it-when-all- packages-needing-it-are-gone', or IBNWOIOMSUIWAPNIAG for short. ^^ :-) -Mitch Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature -- Ed C.
Re: Help needed with compressed files
On Tue, 1 Dec 1998, Austanners Wet Blue Pty Ltd wrote: I wish to load some package files onto a laptop that has no CD-ROM drive and is not networked. Some of the .deb files are 2+MB and I can compress them using PKZIP,Winzip or rar but can linux unzip from spanned floppy disks? Any suggestions? Steve, These ideas might be a bit slow, but on the other hand ... Try connecting a couple of systems using a serial file xfer package such as Kermit (ckermit) or network them via. either the parrallel port or via. serial ports. I'm no expert on this, so I won't even begin to try and tell you how to go about it - perhaps you have enough info already in your /usr/doc directory or perhaps someone else listening in would like to guide you. If you want to try floppies, you might be able to tar the files across several floppies. I've never tried this with Linux, but it used to work fine when I was using QNX a lot. Regards, -- David McDonald telephone: +61-2-9554-0346 (direct) Systems Support Analyst+61-2-9554- (switch) Security Mailing Services 04-1237-2284(mobile) 6 The Crescent facsimile: +61-2-9554-0554 P.O. Box 86 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] KINGSGROVE NSW 2208 AUSTRALIA --
Gnuplot ... Five parameter limit
Hi, I was just wondering if there was anyone who had managed to extend the gnuplot's five parameter function limits? I would really be happy to hear from you Regards --- Jonathan Lawson Thermal Processes Unit Department of Applied Energy and Optical Diagnostics School of Mechanical Engineering, Cranfield University, Cranfield, Bedford. UK. email [EMAIL PROTECTED] How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth! Isaiah 52:7
Re: About cdrom
Is debian supposed to have a /dev/cdrom Well, yes. Unfortunately the mechanism that creates it from the boot floppies was broken. Because when I install debian I do mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /cdrom and I get /dev/cdrom file or Dir not found Issue the command ln -s hdb /dev/cdrom if your cdrom is an atapi cdrom as slave on the first adapter. Regards, Joey Ok I did that command ln -s hdb /dev/cdrom and nothing happened I also did ls -al | grep cdrom and I found cdrom but it's not a directiory You have any suggestions
Re: Is this really the right thing to do?
Ed Cogburn wrote: Mitch Blevins wrote: One problem with auto-deinstallation of support packages is that you may have other packages that also use the same support package. You would have to grep the dependency database to ensure you weren't removing a library/package that was used elsewhere. Even then, you may have programs in /usr/local that are not tracked by dpkg and need one of those libraries. If dpkg kept track of all packages that depend on the one we are talking about, it could 'know' when the package is no longer usefull and is merely wasting space. About usr/local: since we are talking about deb packages, I don't belive there would be a situation where a deb package in the distribution is dependent on a library that must be installed by the user. Most deb packages in the distribution are dependent only on other deb packages. The Netscape program that untill recently relied on a 'installer' deb is an exception, though, but now NS is in deb packages (in slink) so that exception is no longer valid. I was speaking of the case where you have a /usr/local binary that depends on a shared lib that is in a .deb You also have support packages that are obviously useless by themselves (such as libraries), but what about the ones that are only 'semi-useless' by themselve. An example would be a documentation package. Suppose you want to have foo-doc installed without foo. (an avid reader) foo-doc would be part of the foo 'group', but can still be considered useful without foo. I guess that it would be up the maintainer to signify whether their packages are support-only, or usable-on-their-own. The maintainer doesn't always know best. Centralization is bad. What if I want to build the latest foo from CVS that depends on the libfoo.deb package. I don't want foo.deb, but I do want the support package. The maintainer cannot forsee all the different scenarios. -Mitch
Optical Jukebox support in Linux
Hello all... I was wondering if Linux (kernel and tools) had the ability to control an optical jukebox. The box in question is an HP OEM that has 144 slots to hold 1.3G Optical media. The system has 4 dirves in the base of the jukebox to read/write the 1.3G media. On the SCSI lookup it is all under 5 different LUNs (the 4 drives plus an extra entry for the jukebox library). I currently have this running in Novell Netware using MDI's SCSI Express jukebox NLM drivers. Anybody have any experience with this or could point me in a direction to get some help? Thanks, --Jay
Howto: Printing Howtos?
Hi all, does someone know a practicable way to print out the HOWTOs? I think I have to study some of them more deeply and don't want to read them on the screen bit would like to have them on paper. But neither the html nor the text versions seems to be ready for printing out :( Greetings, joachim
Partition Magic 4.0
I am about to install Debian 2.00 onto my PC with Windows 95 already on it. I want to pre partition hard drive with Partition Magic 4.00 since Powerquest Corp claims that v4.00 fully supports Linux's ext2. Has anybody used Partition Magic 4.00 to create ext2 partitions and does it work correctly? Thanks Roman Malinowski
Re: Can dpkg check the MD5's of *every* file belonging to a package?
On Mon, Nov 30, 1998 at 03:59:17PM -0800, Joe Emenaker wrote: Does dpkg have something like this? The debsums package has a utility for this. It will also create md5sums for packages which do not come with them (good for fresh installs). -- --- - - --- - - - --- Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux UnixGroup Admin - Jordan Systems Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- - - - --- --- -- The Choice of the GNU Generation
Re: About cdrom
Subject: Re: About cdrom Date: Mon, Nov 30, 1998 at 07:48:57PM -0500 In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Is debian supposed to have a /dev/cdrom Well, yes. Unfortunately the mechanism that creates it from the boot floppies was broken. Because when I install debian I do mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /cdrom and I get /dev/cdrom file or Dir not found Issue the command ln -s hdb /dev/cdrom if your cdrom is an atapi cdrom as slave on the first adapter. Regards, Joey Ok I did that command ln -s hdb /dev/cdrom I assume(?) you were in the /dev dir when you did the above? if not then ln -s /dev/hdb /dev/cdrom would have been the correct syntax. and nothing happened did you try: VT2 root-Deb-Slink:~# ls -l /dev/cdrom and observe lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root8 Oct 21 14:12 /dev/cdrom -/dev/hdd I also did ls -al | grep cdrom and I found cdrom you did the ls while you were in? / ??? but it's not a directiory You have any suggestions A bit more info would help, such as VT2 root-Deb-Slink:~# ls -al | grep cdrom doesn't show anything because I am in the ~ (home) directory but VT2 root-Deb-Slink:~# ls -al /dev | grep cdrom yeilds about 30 entries, including /dev/cdrom -/dev/hdd OK? -- This sentence contradicts itself -- no actually it doesn't. -- Hofstadter ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RE: Root Menu entry]
Hi, Yes I did restart the window manager and that did not update the menus. I also ran update-menus -v and I got the following output: %update-menus -v Update-menus: No other update-menus programme running. Good. Reading installed packages... Reading translate info in /etc/menu-methods/translate_menus In file /usr/lib/menu/xemacs19 at line 4: section=Apps/Editors title=xemacs19-tty command=/usr/bin/xemacs19 ^ Unexpected end of line Regards, Rathon. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, did you restart the window manager? If not, the menus might not be re-read. Two, as root try running update-menus w/ the verbose options turned on. See if the olvwm scripts get called. On 23-Nov-98 rathon wrote: Hi, I am using Debian2.0 with olvwm. I can right click my mouse and get the pulldown 'Root Menu' that shows all the installed stuffs I have put. later on, I added a xemacs package(using dselect instead of dpkg)and under the pulldown menu: Root Menu-Debian-Apps-Editors It does not show up! I could envoke xemacs by typing it from any xterm. Question: How do I add this recent package to my pulldown menu ?? Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
proftpd
Has anyone had any luck w/ this program?? I am having problems w/ u/l'ing files to my public_html directories and it losing the o+r permission. I checked the umask and it was set to 022 which I am not sure is a good thing or not...I don't quite understand the numbering scheme for permissions. A friend of mine is using the optional package of wu-ftpd..and it seems to be working ok. If anyone can she a light on these subjects that would be great. William
Mounting CDROM
I am having trouble mounting my CDROM. I used the command line below. mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /cdrom It just lists about 10 lines of error messages. The CDROM is recognized when I boot to Linux. Any help is appreciated. Thanks! Doug Dine http://members.xoom.com/dougdine http://members.xoom.com/loveless
Mounting CDROM
I am having trouble mounting my CDROM. I used the command line below. mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /cdrom It just lists about 10 lines of error messages. The CDROM is recognized when I boot to Linux. Any help is appreciated. Thanks! Doug Dine http://members.xoom.com/dougdine http://members.xoom.com/loveless
Re: help for a future user
On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Mitch Blevins wrote: Usually I work with FoxPro under DOS but I want my DBFs to be secure. Does a FoxPro release for Linux exist? You can, of course, host the dbf files on a linux system, making them available to windoze users by sharing the relevent directories with Samba. (Samba is available as a Debian package). Unfortunately, this may not give you file record locking at a satisfactory level if you have both linux and windoze/FoxPro clients accessing the files at the same time. I believe that Samba implements these locks sucessfully for the Samba clients (FoxPro), but you may need un*x/linux programs to implement them too, in which case you might need to look at SCO Unix - there used to be a FoxPro for SCO a few years ago. (FoxPro for SCO might run under Linux to if you are running the iBCS compatability deb's - does anyone know?) Perhaps you can get a personal version of SCO (someone told me that it can be obtained without having to pay for it), obtain SCO FoxPro and try migrating SCO FoxPro to Linux. -- David McDonald telephone: +61-2-9554-0346 (direct) Systems Support Analyst+61-2-9554- (switch) Security Mailing Services 04-1237-2284(mobile) 6 The Crescent facsimile: +61-2-9554-0554 P.O. Box 86 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] KINGSGROVE NSW 2208 AUSTRALIA --
RE: Partition Magic 4.0
I am about to install Debian 2.00 onto my PC with Windows 95 already on it. I want to pre partition hard drive with Partition Magic 4.00 since Powerquest Corp claims that v4.00 fully supports Linux's ext2. Has anybody used Partition Magic 4.00 to create ext2 partitions and does it work correctly? Thanks Roman Malinowski Worked flawlessly, on two different systems. This product is a must. Christian Lavoie UIN: 947212 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partition Magic 4.0
It wanted to put ext2 partitions inside a logical partition and I didn't like that. It also seemed to read my drive cylinder geometry incorrectly (well, at least differently than linux). I found that the best way to do it is to use PM to resize the win partition and leave free space on the HD. Then use linux fdisk to create the linux partitions. Steve On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Roman Malinowski wrote: I am about to install Debian 2.00 onto my PC with Windows 95 already on it. I want to pre partition hard drive with Partition Magic 4.00 since Powerquest Corp claims that v4.00 fully supports Linux's ext2. Has anybody used Partition Magic 4.00 to create ext2 partitions and does it work correctly? Thanks Roman Malinowski
Re: Howto: Printing Howtos?
Joachim, I usually do something like 'zcat XXX-HOWTO.gz | a2ps -4' (although you could pipe to lpr instead). cheers, Bob On 1 Dec 1998, Joachim Trinkwitz wrote: Hi all, does someone know a practicable way to print out the HOWTOs? I think I have to study some of them more deeply and don't want to read them on the screen bit would like to have them on paper. But neither the html nor the text versions seems to be ready for printing out :( Greetings, joachim -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
Re: Is this really the right thing to do?
On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Mitch Blevins wrote: Ed Cogburn wrote: Mitch Blevins wrote: One problem with auto-deinstallation of support packages is that you may have other packages that also use the same support package. You would have to grep the dependency database to ensure you weren't removing a library/package that was used elsewhere. Even then, you may have programs in /usr/local that are not tracked by dpkg and need one of those libraries. I think that this is an issue not only when packages are uninstalled but also when packages are upgraded. I have had trouble recently with three seperate machines (two at work and one at home) where Netscape works, then doesn't work, then works again ... I have not identified the *exact* source of the problem, however, it is different to the errors that I have been seeing reported in this mailing list. The problem *appears* to be caused by updates to the locales package - certainly the bi-polar mood swings in Netscape exactly correspond with apt-get upgrades to my systems. Has anyone else had similar experiences when doing upgrades? I've suspected for some time that it would be useful to reconfigure dependent packages when lower-level packages are upgraded. Needles to say, this could be very time consuming when very low level packages are upgraded (such as libc). -- David McDonald telephone: +61-2-9554-0346 (direct) Communications Analyst +61-2-9554- (switch) Security Mailing Services 04-1237-2284(mobile) 6 The Crescent facsimile: +61-2-9554-0554 P.O. Box 86 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] KINGSGROVE NSW 2208 AUSTRALIA --
Re: Partition Magic 4.0
On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Roman Malinowski wrote: I am about to install Debian 2.00 onto my PC with Windows 95 already on it. I want to pre partition hard drive with Partition Magic 4.00 since Powerquest Corp claims that v4.00 fully supports Linux's ext2. Has anybody used Partition Magic 4.00 to create ext2 partitions and does it work correctly? Hopefully it does, since I just ordered it. Actually if you are going to pre-partition the drive, it should work just fine--version 3.0 does also. 3.0 won't allow you do change existing ext2 partitions, but you can move around any DOS/Windows partitions as you wish and create the new ones with cfdisk/fdisk as part of the installation process. Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
Re: Is this really the right thing to do?
Previously Mitch Blevins wrote: One problem with auto-deinstallation of support packages is that you may have other packages that also use the same support package. You would have to grep the dependency database to ensure you weren't removing a library/package that was used elsewhere. Even then, you may have programs in /usr/local that are not tracked by dpkg and need one of those libraries. Go to http://www.debian.org/~wakkerma/, grab the latest apt-design text from there and read section 5.2 . I think that covers what you are looking for. If not I'ld like to know what you want to see different and why. Wichert. -- == This combination of bytes forms a message written to you by Wichert Akkerman. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.wi.leidenuniv.nl/~wichert/ pgp2jB2TELwBp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Partition Magic 4.0
On Mon, Nov 30, 1998 at 09:18:08PM -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote: Hopefully it does, since I just ordered it. Actually if you are going to pre-partition the drive, it should work just fine--version 3.0 does also. 3.0 won't allow you do change existing ext2 partitions, but you can move around any DOS/Windows partitions as you wish and create the new ones with cfdisk/fdisk as part of the installation process. Let us know if 4.0 will resize ext2. If it does I will certainly slap down some $$ to get it. I made a mistake on my initial partition that I'd loke to rectify. Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Available Capacity Mounted on /dev/sda1 248862 21046525546 89% / /dev/sda5 50556 3647909 0% /tmp /dev/sda6 96896 1621775508 18% /usr/src /dev/sda7 192848 16263 166294 9% /usr/local /dev/sda8 135204 22189 105284 17% /home /dev/sda9 397515 29382483160 78% /misc I gave myself such a large /usr/local as I was used to Slackware. I'd also want to reduce /tmp and /home and suffle space over / and /misc. :/ -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions! ---+- pgpxRwaFQq1wq.pgp Description: PGP signature
libstdc 2.9 problem in slink
Reposting Mitch's mail. I will do so daily this week. The solution is simple, and worked well for me. - From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Dec 1 10:05:41 1998 Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 00:51:06 -0500 From: Mitch Blevins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sanjeev Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Upgraded to unstable, now unstable Sanjeev Gupta wrote: Folks, Have used Debian for critical office uses for over two years now. And last saturday, being in Office, decided to upgrade from hamm to slink. (Please do not shoot yet). Near the end, I started getting: update-menus: error in loading shared libraries /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.0-1.so.2: undefined symbol: __register_frame_info Hmmm. No problem, will right it self, I thought. The same sort of library problems had occured when upgrading my Debian/Sparc installtion. But no way. Many tools have stopped working (groff, etc); and to top it all, apt-get and dselect too. So no hope of the next day's updates on slink righting matters. [snip] There is another way to do this that I've seen bouncing around, but I don't have the link to it yet. Downgrade your dpkg to 1.4.0.31 and upgrade your libstdc++ if it hasn't been already. Make sure apt is at 0.1.9. You can get a tarball of all these debs from http://blevins.simplenet.com/foobar/ dpkg should still work, although dselect and apt are hosed. After installing the files above, both dselect and apt should work. Other packages may still have problems with the __register_frame_info problem, but they are being recompiled and uploaded so they should work themselves onto your mirror after a few days. Hope this helps, -Mitch Sanjeev Ghane Gupta Tel: +91(11) 6941831, 6946619 Eurolink Systems LtdFax: +91(11) 6943732 New Delhi, India email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eurolink doesn't pay me to speak for it, so I don't Old age is not an accomplishment, nor youth a sin
Re: Icq-java and jdk1.1-runtime
Hmm. Sorry, not familiar with that distribution of icq-java. I got mine from www.mirabilis.com/download All you need to do is gunzip|tar the file, and edit install file to specify the directory where your java files are. Try that. You won't need to uninstall wm too. HTH, Andrew Never include a comment that will help | Andrew Ivanov someone else understand your code. | [EMAIL PROTECTED] If they understand it, they don't | ICQ: 12402354 need you. |
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I am having trouble mounting my CDROM. I used the command line below. mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /cdrom It just lists about 10 lines of error messages. The CDROM is recognized when I boot to Linux. Any help is appreciated. Thanks! Doug Dine http://members.xoom.com/dougdine http://members.xoom.com/loveless
Re: Newbie Install problems
On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Tom Anzalone wrote: To anyone who can help me, I have tried to install Debian 2.0.2 several times but I get the following error when I get to the installation of the kernal: Floppy Error! The attempt to extract the Rescue Floppy failed. The intial parts of the installation work fine ( i.e. setting up swap and boot partitions, etc..) I have Red Hat 5.1 on the same machine and that installed without a problem. I have a P133, 128meg ramm, and 2.5 gb hard drive on which I setup to install Debian on. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Tom Anzalone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you ever get a response to this posting? If so, I must have missed it. At any rate, I'm about 87% confident that your installation problem is related to a bad floppy. Use a different floppy and recreate the rescue disk. I bet that'll solve it. Floppies are notorious for causing problems during the installation of Debian. -- Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] KC5ENO - Amateur Radio: When all else fails. Linux - Finally! A real OS for the Intel PC!
Re: your mail
On Sat, Nov 28, 1998 at 11:37:57AM -0700, Doug Dine wrote: It just lists about 10 lines of error messages. Just a suggestion, but... the ~10 lines of error messages would go a LONG way into people being able to resolve your problem without taking the shotgun approach. Steve, former Tech Support person at a local ISP. :) -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's. They hired me for my ICQ: 5107343 | skills and labor, not my opinions! ---+- pgpPTd62tQrOj.pgp Description: PGP signature
unstable == potato?
OK, I think I missed something. I installed 2.0 from CD after it was released. I watched the progress of slink and then decided to upgrade to it, but I think I went past it. I had already gotten some unstable stuff from the debian web site, including apt. (The #debian crowd is cutting edge, and I followed their advice. :) I set my /etc/apt/sources.list to point at unstable and did an `apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade`. Then I sorted out the libstdc++ business. Now everything's good, but... did I miss slink? Is 2.1 called frozen or something? Is this right? hamm == 2.0 slink == 2.1 potato == 2.2 If I did go past it, what should I set sources.list to point at, and is it safe to downgrade (from 2.2 to 2.1). If so, how to do it? Dselect+apt shows a lot of the stuff I downloaded installed as obsolete and local. Thanks, morgan -- V M o r g a n F l e t c h e r http://www.hahaha.org Tibi gratias agimus quod nihil fumas. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mounting CDROM
On Sat, 28 Nov 1998, Doug Dine wrote: I am having trouble mounting my CDROM. I used the command line below. mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /cdrom It just lists about 10 lines of error messages. The CDROM is recognized when I boot to Linux. Any help is appreciated. Thanks! Doug Dine http://members.xoom.com/dougdine http://members.xoom.com/loveless These may be obvious suggestions, but is your CD-ROM a SCSI device? If not, /dev/scd0 is the wrong device to use. Also, does the /cdrom directory exist? If not, do a mkdir /cdrom first. -- Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] KC5ENO - Amateur Radio: When all else fails. Linux - Finally! A real OS for the Intel PC!
Re: 128 MB RAM
Dana G Haugli writes: Hi! I have 128 MB of RAM on my computer, but Linux only recognizes up to 64 MB. I have tried adding mem=128M to my lilo config file as recommended in the HARDWARE HOWTO, but that doesn't seem to work. Any suggestions? There's a patch that fixes that. You can find it...somewhere.:-)..where you usually find your patches (dont remember). Or, you can try the newest development kernels, they fix it too.
Thesaurus??
Does anyone know of a good Thesaurus in it's own linux app?? Maybe even something thats on-line as I always have an open browser. A bit off topic maybe but I've been looking for a Thesaurus now for ages. I know Word and I think StarOffice both have one built in but this is a pain to leave what I'm doing to go and open one of these. Thanx --Robert
Re: Thesaurus??
Robert V. MacQuarrie wrote: Does anyone know of a good Thesaurus in it's own linux app?? Maybe even something thats on-line as I always have an open browser. A bit off topic maybe but I've been looking for a Thesaurus now for ages. I know Word and I think StarOffice both have one built in but this is a pain to leave what I'm doing to go and open one of these. I think you can use wordnet as a thesaurus, but I never have taken the time to figure out how. Anyway, it's a debian package. -- see shy jo
please help me: problems for users!
debian-user@lists.debian.org Hi all, I've just recently installed the Debian sytem on my computer. It works perfectly for the root, but not for the other users. For example when another user send an e.mail to root, the root receive it but from the Unknown User (the good UID). An other example, when an user edit a text with vi one can see this error: Information on user id 1000 not found. Modifications not recoverable if the session fails Some other soft (like xlock for example) crashe (segmentation fault) for all the users except root! Any help would be great Thank You Patrick RICHARD, France
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Hi Debian users! Has anynone a kernel compiled with Initio SCSI support? It would be of great help for me.
Re: Kernel 2.0.34 problems
On Mon, Nov 30, 1998 at 01:28:50PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: Because I was a Slackware person before I was a Debian person. I don't like how the headers are split from the code. I've never cared to learn the Debian way when make dep ; make clean ; make zlilo ; shutdown -r now works so well. I was a Slackware user for a year before Debian too. I did the a.out to ELF upgrade by hand on my Slackware 2.3 box; not much fun. Fortunately, being a Slackware user is not terminal. There really are advantages to using make-kpkg. But using make-kpkg doesn't mean you have to use the official kernel-source packages; I don't. hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org pgpHRt9Yw5rWy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Kernel 2.0.34 problems
On Mon, Nov 30, 1998 at 03:40:49PM -0700, Gary L. Hennigan wrote: The short of it is, learn to use make-kpkg. It'll make life a LOT easier on your new Debian system. It's also a lot easier to compile kernels for other systems with it. I have some 486 systems for which I prefer to build on faster machines. In the Slackware to-hell-with-kernel-modules days it was easy to build on another system (just copy zImage over) but now there's a bunch of things to copy. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org
Re: Fwd: [toshiba laptop kernel]
On Mon, Nov 30, 1998 at 01:56:17PM -0500, James Ryan wrote: I have a toshiba satellite pro 440CDT laptop. In order to install debian, I had to use the boot image designed for toshiba laptops, otherwise, I got into a continuous boot cycle. I would like to try some of the new kernels but I want to avoid the cycle. Is there a patch somewhere that I can apply to all kernels? What is the best way to work with this, since I am going to compile a bunch of kernels. Just compile your kernel as zImage instead of bzImage; that should do the trick (it does on my 310CDS). If you use make-kpkg, use the --zimage switch. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org
Re: ICQ over IP Masquerading
On Mon, Nov 30, 1998 at 02:42:16PM -0500, Paul Miller wrote: Has anyone gotten ICQ to work over Linux IP Masquerading? Someone said something about telling Linux that ICQ uses ports 2000 to 4000, but I don't know what to do with them or how. Can anyone help? Well, it does work. If the person you're communicating with also uses ICQ behind a firewall it begins to break down though. The best fix is to install socks5 on a host you can reach without masquerading (eg the masquerading host) and use it with ICQ. You can download socks5 from www.socks.nec.com, but be careful of the license (which is why no debian packages exist). Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org
Printing from a Mac
Hello, I may have the opportunity to be hired as a Network Administrator for the graphics department of a large corporation. They have 67 cpus, many of which are Macs. I don't know if they have their own dedicated print/file servers (I haven't interviewed on-site yet, but a good friend of mine is manager of the department, so I stand a good chance of getting the job). I have a network at home with a Debian box acting as a file/print server for a Windows 95 ThinkPad and a UMAX J700 Mac clone running OS8.5. File and print from the ThinkPad work fine as does file sharing from the UMAX. Printing over the network from the UMAX is the problem. Here is some info: $ cat /etc/printcap # This file was generated by /usr/sbin/magicfilterconfig. # lp|dj|hpdj660|HPDJ660C:\ :lp=/dev/lp1:sd=/var/spool/lpd/hpdj660:\ :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\ :if=/etc/magicfilter/dj550c-filter:\ :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs: $ cat /etc/netatalk/papd.conf # Test Printer:pr=test: hpdj660:\ :pr=lp:pd=/etc/netatalk/aplwntr1.ppd: I have read Bill McGonigle's Ghostscript/Netatalk HOWTO at hitchcock.org, but when I click on the LaserWriter 8 in the Chooser, nothing shows up. I'm also wondering if there are any companies that provide commercial support for Debian, or Linux in general, if that turns out to be important to management. TIA for any help :) Matthew P.S. rcw, if you read this, don't spill the beans! ;)
No more C++ ?
When I try to compile a c++ source I get following error-message: robinson:~/uni/c++/src$ c++ hello.C /usr/bin/ld: cannot open -lstdc++: No such file or directory collect2: ld returned 1 exit status I heard some people have the same problem. But how can I fix it? Christoph
Re: Is this really the right thing to do?
[...] X-+-xbase | +-xservers | +-xfonts This looks good. Of course the groups should be collapsable so the user can get where he wants fast. Yes, this is what I was thinking of. Right now the only way to 'associate' packages with one another, besides the section name, is to use a common prefix in the name so they show up together in the same place in dselect's screen. Imagine a user looking at the huge list of packages (in X11 section) that start with 'x'. Yes, the dependencies will auto-select most of the necessary packages if one is picked by the user, but when I did this by picking xbase, I believe 'xterm' never got auto-selected, nor is the user made aware of other 'significantly related' packages like the other xfont and xserver packages. How would a new user with little experience with Unix/X11 know he needs 'xterm'? xterm isn't necessary, I use rxvt instead, and the splitting of X11 let me install without xterm, which is good. The problem of needing *some* sort of terminal can be solved by having both xterm and rxvt provide the same terminal capability, and have x-base suggest the terminal stuff. It shouldn't depend on it though, one can imagine an useful x-installation without a terminal. There is one other 'association' issue that is getting worse. Imagine selecting the gnome package suite. When I did this recently, I ended up with more than *30* packages being selected for gnome support. Now suppose the user wants to remove gnome to try out KDE, for example (lets just assume they are mutually exclusive). There is no reasonable way for this user to figure out which installed packages were installed for gnome. I guess what I'm suggesting is that the packages need to 'remember' *why* they were selected, by the user, or auto-selected because of dependency requirements on a given package. When the user goes to delete gnome from his system, the other packages that were installed only because of dependencies, can 'inform' the user, somehow, that they are no longer needed. An option for showing only those packages that nothing depends on could be useful. Or a flag for every installed package showing if there is dependencies. Helge Hafting
Re: Partition Magic 4.0
[Partition magic 4.00 ext2] Worked flawlessly, on two different systems. This product is a must. Will it deal with partition that partition magic 3.0 won't touch? I used cfdisk's maximize option when creating a big ext2 partition. That gave me a slightly bigger partition as it no longer started on a cylinder boundary. But partition magic 3.0 refuse to touch the drive at all because of this, it won't even shrink another hpfs partition that *is* properly aligned. The only way to fix this would be deleting the big partition, but there isn't temporary space for moving the partition's contents around. (It is my /usr) Helge Hafting
Re: Howto: Printing Howtos?
On 1 Dec 1998, Joachim Trinkwitz wrote: Hi all, does someone know a practicable way to print out the HOWTOs? I think I have to study some of them more deeply and don't want to read them on the screen bit would like to have them on paper. But neither the html nor the text versions seems to be ready for printing out :( Try zcat /usr/doc/HOWTO/Printing-HOWTO.gz | lpr Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/8841/ http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/
RE: Monitor vs X servers
Video card is a Diamond Stealth 1MB DRAM, and strictly from possibly impaired memory, an ISA card with S3 Trio VESA something- or-other, probably new in 1996. Which of these two cards you are actually using? The X server should be choosing according to the card. There is a list of supported cards for each X server, I think in that Hardware-Compatibility-HowTo. Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra Amdocs Brasil Ltda
Re: No more C++ ?
Christoph Keller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I try to compile a c++ source I get following error-message: robinson:~/uni/c++/src$ c++ hello.C /usr/bin/ld: cannot open -lstdc++: No such file or directory collect2: ld returned 1 exit status I heard some people have the same problem. But how can I fix it? You need libstdc++, install it. Jens -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] KeyID: 2048/E451C639 1998/01/28 Print: 5F 3D 43 1E 24 1E CC 48 1E 05 93 3A A7 10 73 37 Of course 5 years from now that will be different, but 5 years from now everyone will be running free GNU on their 200 MIPS, 64M SPARCstation-5. -- Andy Tannenbaum in the famous Linux is obsolete thread on comp.os.minux, 1992
Re: Howto: Printing Howtos?
On Mon, 30 Nov 1998 21:13:43 MST, Bob Nielsen wrote: Joachim, I usually do something like 'zcat XXX-HOWTO.gz | a2ps -4' (although you could pipe to lpr instead). I don't usually print HOWTO's, but something I do with similarly formatted text is to use enscript to print 2-up (two pages side by side on one page) to save trees, yet remain easily readable (less page flipping, too). This yields postscript output, so you'll need to have the gs package or equivalent setup if you don't have a postscript printer. Anyway, I run a command something like: enscript -fTimes-Roman10 -2rG -p infile.txt outfile.ps (I mostly do this on other unix brands, so man enscript) and I can view the output .ps file before printing using my favorite ps viewer, xdvi, also packaged for Debian. Saves a lot of paper. -- David -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: please help me: problems for users!
I've just recently installed the Debian sytem on my computer. It works perfectly for the root, but not for the other users. For example when snip Information on user id 1000 not found. It seems you have a corrupt users database. Did you choose NIS or shadow when installing? And how did you create the non-root users? Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra Amdocs Brasil Ltda
Re : RE: please help me: problems for users!
I choose the shadow mode and I create the new users with the command adduser Patrick RICHARD, France I've just recently installed the Debian sytem on my computer. It works perfectly for the root, but not for the other users. For example when snip Information on user id 1000 not found. It seems you have a corrupt users database. Did you choose NIS or shadow when installing? And how did you create the non-root users? Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra Amdocs Brasil Ltda
Re: Partition Magic 4.0
On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Roman Malinowski wrote: I am about to install Debian 2.00 onto my PC with Windows 95 already on it. I want to pre partition hard drive with Partition Magic 4.00 since Powerquest Corp claims that v4.00 fully supports Linux's ext2. Has anybody used Partition Magic 4.00 to create ext2 partitions and does it work correctly? Thanks Roman Malinowski I wouldnt use partition magic to create your partitions, let linux fdisk/cfdisk do that. Sure, go ahead and use it to resize and move your current ones, but IMHO, the linux utils are best for linux, and the DOS utils are best for DOS. I never use a third party program to create partitions. Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Key available, reply with pgpkey as subject. - God's last name is not damn. - Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out!
Re: Newbie needs help
On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: host error. Also I have no clue how to install the software packages. I tried to download to floppy and then transfer over (which is a problem since my zip program doesn't do a split) and then run DSELECT. When I choose the floppy access method, it says to enter the floppy with the packages file. I put in the disk that has the downloaded file on it but it does not except it. Any help with getting this going would be great. The Packages file is not the file you think it is. Instead, it is found in the root of each binary-arch hierachy on the FTP site. Is contains Info on all the available packages in each release of Debian Linux (hamm/slink/potato/whatever) I would recommend you wait until you get FTP going, or use a Debian CD, which you could get for $2-3 I think in the US from somewhere such as CheapBytes, or LSL. (www.cheapbytes.com - www.lsl.com - I think, offhand.) The floppy method, although I have not tried it, does not sound appealing. You could use instead, `dpkg -i packagename.deb` to install each package manually. The computer is a PC clone 386, 16M Ram, 1.44 and 1.2 disc drives, 500M hd, 33.6 modem. No CDROM. Thanks alot. I see no problems with that, although a 4x CDROM drive would be helpful, if you got yourself a Debian CD. HTH, Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Key available, reply with pgpkey as subject. - Bother! said Pooh, as the Klingons opened fire. - Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out!
Something with Pine.
Okay, It has now REALLY gotten to me. I like pine, but my only gripe is that I cannot get rid of those annoying pauses when you go to open another folder. Can anyone alleviate my anger/lack of patience/stupidity?? Oh... the universe consists of two distinct elements. Hydrogen and Stupidity. TIA, Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Key available, reply with pgpkey as subject. - CONNECT 300... Connect 300?!?!?! #%^# NO CARRIER - Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out!
Re: ICQ over IP Masquerading
On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Paul Miller wrote: Has anyone gotten ICQ to work over Linux IP Masquerading? Someone said something about telling Linux that ICQ uses ports 2000 to 4000, but I don't know what to do with them or how. Can anyone help? My friends Windoze box has no problems with ICQ, It worked out of the box. Except for clients trying to initiate connections to him of course. I have got a VERY basic set of ipfwadm rules though.. #! /bin/sh ipfwadm -F -p deny ipfwadm -F -a m -S 192.168.0.0/24 -D 0.0.0.0/0 Simple enough? Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Key available, reply with pgpkey as subject. - Def: Password: The nonsense word taped to the CRT. - Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out!
Installation on IBM ThinkPad 380XD
I tried to install Linux Debian version on my laptop IBM ThinkPad 380XD. It seems to be all OK but when I boot the system gives these messages: LILO Loading Linux . A20 gating failed and then Stop Anyone knows what happen? This is memory sistuation on my laptop. Memory TYpe Total Used Available --- --- --- Conventional 651.264 96.736 554.528 Upper 117.152 117.152 0 Reserved 0 0 0 Extended(XMS) 48.969.312 1.226.336 47.742.976 --- --- --- Total 49.737.728 1.440.224 48.297.504 Tot. inf. a 1 MB 768.416 213.888 554.528
Gnuplot bug (still the same) - once again
Hi all! OK, so I'm boring, misbehaving, and so on... but I don't know, why the same ugly bug is still present in the gnuplot package... I've reported it three times to the debian-user: http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-user-9808/msg00011.html http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-user-9808/msg00018.html (solution) http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-user-9810/msg00251.html and at least two times to the gnuplot-info, but without any results :-(. Wojtek Zabolotny [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UNO NUEVO EN LINUX
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hola! On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, dha wrote: me gustaria intalar el LINUX en mi ordenador, y queria saber donde lo puedo obtener, como intalarlo, si lo puedo intalar con w98 y que haya alguna manera de arrancar LINUX o w98, en fin todo o casi todo lo que deba hacer para instalar LINUX, teniendo en cuenta que nunca lo he probado, ni se como es, lo unico que se es lo poquito que he leido sobre LINUX, no se si sera mucho pedir, pero como el ingles no es mi fuerte, haber si la informacion podria ser en castellano primero te debo decir que esta mailing list es en ingles, hay otra en castellano para debian, podras encontrar mas informacion sobre ella en www.debian.org (no te se decir mas, no estoy subscrito a ella)... ese deberia de ser el primer punto de referencia puedes instalar Linux junto a otros sistemas operativos como Windows98, y sin tener que reinistalar toda lo que tengas en tu ordenador actualmente hay una guia de instalacion para debian en www.debian.org, aunque _creo_ que solo esta en ingles otro punto para encontrar informacion en castellano es slug.ctv.es, de todas formas mucha informacion/documentacion esta aun por traducir por lo que tienes que resignarte a utilizar mas de lo que quisieras el ingles... espero que esto te sirva, Ulisses - - Computers are useless. They can only give answers.Pablo Picasso -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: latin1 Comment: PGP public key avaliable at http://www.rediris.es/cert/keyserver iQB1AwUBNmPK5A/N+5+NQ63pAQHqcAL/Xfc14W3gROQPazNtjgryxf+Ez6JLkO62 0g1fDXGlf9Ca8Yf+RQpM6RHKNWe8WeeclIrtrZW8VJOko7zskhhyaw6F67gaB2JB Gqm2CMpsC7z1r4d7ZgGkEs+2FdRbs8B4 =RCni -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Installation on IBM ThinkPad 380XD
I tried to install Linux Debian version on my laptop IBM ThinkPad 380XD. It seems to be all OK but when I boot the system gives these messages: LILO Loading Linux . A20 gating failed and then Stop Anyone knows what happen? This is memory sistuation on my laptop. Memory TYpe Total Used Available --- --- --- Conventional 651.264 96.736 554.528 Upper 117.152 117.152 0 Reserved 0 0 0 Extended(XMS) 48.969.312 1.226.336 47.742.976 --- --- --- Total 49.737.728 1.440.224 48.297.504 Tot. inf. a 1 MB 768.416 213.888 554.528
Re: Re : RE: please help me: problems for users!
On Tue, 1 Dec 1998, Patrick RICHARD wrote: I choose the shadow mode and I create the new users with the command adduser Can you post /etc/passwd and /etc/group, please? Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/8841/ http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/
Re: Re : RE: please help me: problems for users!
M.C. Vernon wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 1998, Patrick RICHARD wrote: I choose the shadow mode and I create the new users with the command adduser Can you post /etc/passwd and /etc/group, please? Please post your private PGP key and pass phrase also. ;) pgpsgjtFJEet5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Gnuplot bug (still the same) - once again
Wojciech Zabolotny wrote: Hi all! OK, so I'm boring, misbehaving, and so on... but I don't know, why the same ugly bug is still present in the gnuplot package... I've reported it three times to the debian-user: http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-user-9808/msg00011.html http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-user-9808/msg00018.html (solution) http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-user-9810/msg00251.html and at least two times to the gnuplot-info, but without any results :-(. Have you reported the bug the the Debian Bug Tracking System? debian-user is not really the place for it. Seems like an easy enough fix for the package maintainer to make, even if the upstream author(s) is unresponsive. http://debian.org/Bugs/Reporting.html Get it in the system, and I'm sure you'll get better results. -Mitch
Re: Re : RE: please help me: problems for users!
On Tue, 1 Dec 1998, Mitch Blevins wrote: M.C. Vernon wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 1998, Patrick RICHARD wrote: I choose the shadow mode and I create the new users with the command adduser Can you post /etc/passwd and /etc/group, please? Please post your private PGP key and pass phrase also. ;) Red herring. If he uses shadow passwords, then the password field mearly contains an x. If he doesn't, then it is only a one-way hash. Having said that, he claims to use shadow, so this shouldn't matter. Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/8841/ http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/
RE: Re : RE: please help me: problems for users!
I choose the shadow mode and I create the new users with the command adduser I've never seen something like that. Perhaps others at the list? This seems to be a very interesting problem! Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra Amdocs Brasil Ltda
Win95 - ghostscript
Hello, I want to print from Win95 apps (Word97) into GhostScript, and thence into mgetty+sendfax. What would be the best printer driver to use in Win95, please? Or is there a better way to fax from Word? Also, does anyone have any hints as to how I might get the recipient fax number through to sendfax? Most elegant would be to have the fax number divined from the file itself - anyone have any experience with that? Otherwise, probably the easiest will be to have the user rename a file in some directory, but that's far from elegant. (Ie, fax wrapper gets the printout, creates a dummy file. User renames file to fax number. Wrapper notices change.) BTW, anyone know if there is something like oneko available for Win95? (Cat chases the mouse cursor.) I've had an aww, that's cute, can I have that on a floppy? response, and I'm not sure what he'd do with a .deb :-) Jiri [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re : RE: please help me: problems for users!
M.C. Vernon wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 1998, Mitch Blevins wrote: M.C. Vernon wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 1998, Patrick RICHARD wrote: I choose the shadow mode and I create the new users with the command adduser Can you post /etc/passwd and /etc/group, please? Please post your private PGP key and pass phrase also. ;) Red herring. If he uses shadow passwords, then the password field mearly contains an x. If he doesn't, then it is only a one-way hash. Having said that, he claims to use shadow, so this shouldn't matter. This is true. It escaped me that he was using shadow mode. Let's hope he is right about that. The one-way hashes would be easily brute-forced with a local copy of them. anecdote At my company, they are building a new samba password file based on the passwords of the unix accounts. Just running crack on a spare machine, we've gotten 95% of the passwords without having to ask the users to re-set their passwords for samba (wouldn't want to bother them too much) /anecdote -Mitch pgpwG6InjVko6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Partition Magic 4.0
Hello Roman, ... Has anybody used Partition Magic 4.00 to create ext2 partitions and does it work correctly? I once had an infelicity with an earlier version of Partition Magic: I was moving from one HD to another, and while PM showed both to have the partitions etc in the same order, in linux the orders were different. PM wrote the partition table in creation order (if memory serves), rather than sorted. No big deal, a couple of minutes editing fstab, but odd. As others have pointed out, it's probably better anyway to use PM to make yourself some space, and then create the partition from Linux. Jiri [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is this really the right thing to do?
Why not use a counter ? When a package is installed it increments the counters of the packages it depends on. Deleting a package also decrements the counters of the others. If a counter gets zero it can safely be deleted. There is one other 'association' issue that is getting worse. Imagine selecting the gnome package suite. When I did this recently, I ended up with more than *30* packages being selected for gnome support. Now suppose the user wants to remove gnome to try out KDE, for example (lets just assume they are mutually exclusive). There is no reasonable way for this user to figure out which installed packages were installed for gnome. I guess what I'm suggesting is that the packages need to 'remember' *why* they were selected, by the user, or auto-selected because of dependency requirements on a given package. When the user goes to delete gnome from his system, the other packages that were installed only because of dependencies, can 'inform' the user, somehow, that they are no longer needed. An option for showing only those packages that nothing depends on could be useful. Or a flag for every installed package showing if there is dependencies. Larry de Graaf
Re: About network daemons in a multi homed workstation
The interfaces are well configured; I can ping on any of them, I have a custom client/server application running on the second interface and the routed daemon is aware of the third one. But still NFS, telnet and ftp don't work. The /etc/hosts.access and /etc/hosts.deny files are empty (just comments). Any other ideas? Thank you, Pedro I. Sanchez On Mon, 30 Nov 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have Debian 2.0 in a PC with three different Ethernet interfaces, each interface in a different subnet. I notice that network daemons like telnet, ftp and NFS only work via the first interface (eth0) and completely ignore the other two interfaces. What has to be done to make them work in all interfaces? Even more, is it possible to tell, say NFS, to work on two of them and ignore the third one? Thank you, Pedro I. Sanchez The network daemons know nothing about such mundane details as to the network interfaces that a particular system has. They are completely screened from these details by the IP network layer and the TCP or UDP transport layers (which is a good thing). If the network interfaces are configured correctly, then there should be (at least) three IP addresses assigned to the system, one for each network interface (Ethernet device in your case). Any of these IP addresses is a valid address for that system. So, if a user on another system (client) telnets to the system in question, he would command telnet to connect to one of the IP addresses of that system (server) and, as long as the client has connectivity with the server, then the telnet session should occur normally. So without going into any more details of this, if you're having problems telneting (or whatever) on two of the three network interfaces, the first thing I'd check is whether these network interfaces are configured properly. What does the command 'ifconfig' show? Are the interfaces UP, RUNNING, and are you receiving and transmitting packets over them? Can you 'ping' other systems that are on the directly connected networks for those two interfaces? If the anwsers to all of these are yes then the network interfaces are probably configured properly and your network services should work. The other thing that comes to mind is denying host access through the /etc/hosts.allow, /etc/hosts.deny configuration. See if these files are configured and read 'man hosts_access' for an explanation. Hope this helps... Get your free email from AltaVista at http://altavista.iname.com
Re: Howto: Printing Howtos?
On Tue, Dec 01, 1998 at 03:01:01AM +0100, Joachim Trinkwitz wrote: Hi all, does someone know a practicable way to print out the HOWTOs? I think I have to study some of them more deeply and don't want to read them on the screen bit would like to have them on paper. But neither the html nor the text versions seems to be ready for printing out :( There are postscript vrsions of the HOWTO's available at: ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/ps/ the mini-HOWTO's don't seem to come in postscript format though. -- -- + Peter Granroth + Microsoft is NOT the answer + + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] + Microsoft is the question + + http://granroth.ml.org + The answer is NO+ --
Expect script for Del key under pico/pine.
Hi all,
I am using the folowing method to correct the work of the keys
backspace and delete under pine/pico:
[latt-s:~] alias |grep pico
pico/home/danieldf/bin/pico-pine.fix pico -e -k
pine/home/danieldf/bin/pico-pine.fix pine
[latt-s:~] cat bin/pico-pine.fix
#!/etc/alternatives/expect
eval spawn -noecho $argv
interact {
\177 {send \008}
\033\[3~ {send \004} }
# Now
# picofix pico
# should work (then you can make an alias or a wrapper).
The problem is that if I call pico just as above pico -e -k the expect
script hangs and I cannot start pico properly. (Note: pine is working
just fine ;)
I already tried to fix this by performing some minor changes to the
script (related to the argv variable), but I had no success (I believe that
mainly because I don't know enough exect for that... ;)
Any hints?!
Daniel.
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Re: Help needed with compressed files
Austanners Wet Blue Pty Ltd wrote: I wish to load some package files onto a laptop that has no CD-ROM drive and is not networked. Some of the .deb files are 2+MB and I can compress them using PKZIP,Winzip or rar but can linux unzip from spanned floppy disks? Any suggestions? You can use the DJGPP system (a port of GNU to DOS) (main page in http://www.delorie.com/djgpp/). Mirrors in Australia can be found in: ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/simtelnet/gnu/djgpp/ ftp://ftp.tas.gov.au/simtelnet/gnu/djgpp/ Download from there v2/djdev201.zip: within there you can find the split.exe program for MSDOS, which can be used to split large files into smaler ones (that can fit into floppy disks). For more info about how to use the DJGPP system, download and read the v2/readme.1st file on the mirrors. -- Conrado Badenas (Assistant Lecturer) Department of Thermodynamics. University of Valencia c/. Doctor Moliner, 50 | e-m: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 46100 Burjassot (Valencia) | Phn: +34-63864350 SPAIN| Fax: +34-63983385
Re: What does the # of supported visuals depend on?
Hi! I am currently porting my program from an SGI to a DEC Ultrix and a PC Linux system. The biggest problem (besides byte swapping stuff) is the number of supported visuals. On the SGI I can chooes between lots of different truecolor, directcolor and pseudocolor visuals. The same on the DEC (with smaller colormaps however :-[ ), but on my Linux box with XFree running in 16bpp mode I only have _one_ truecolor visual. If I start X with 8bpp I get some more, but then the truecolor visuals look really ugly. So, I am really wondering: What does the number of supported visuals depend on? And why is there no pseudocolor visual in 16bpp? Current versions of xfree86 simply do not support pseudocolor visuals in more than 8 bpp. On www.xfree86.org the announcement of XFree86 4.0 includes: XFree86 4.0 Our next major release will be 4.0. We don't know when this will be available, and at this point we can't even make a reasonable guess, so please don't ask us that question. We also don't have any beta versions of 4.0 available yet, so please don't ask about that either. We still have lot of work to do on it before it will be ready. The list below is some of what we have planned for the 4.0 release. This feature list may change as development progresses. We're only showing it here to give people an idea of what we're aiming for with 4.0. [...] 8-bit PseudoColor overlays when running in a TrueColor mode (on selected hardware). [...] That means it will be included at some point in the future. If you can't wait, you may want to check out some of the commercial xservers. I seem to remember they did include this feature, although it is a long time ago I heard anyone mention them (Accelerated X, MetroLink???). HTH, Eric -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054
ISDN connection
Hello All, Myself and a group of friends wish to connect to WWW by using a permanent connection but if we all have 33.6K modems and are all connected then it seems that we require at least a 512K connection which is prohibitively expensive ! Question 1. Is the calculation: number of possible users = permanent speed div users connection speed correct ? (ie. 512K / 33.6K = 15.238... users) - I imagined that a high speed connection such as 512K would support 1000 users not just 15 ! Question 2. If we do not intend to host our own web pages on our computer do we need to use a web server such as Apache ? If not, what is the mechanism for accessing the web through a single computer ? Question 3. If we use Apache (or other server software), how does it work ??? I mean, does Apache request the page from the remote server, download to its own memory at, say, 512K and then send to the user at 33.6K or are all requests done at the speed of the user so that 15 users as calculated in question 1 is correct ? TIA Ivan.
Re: ISDN connection
ivan wrote: Hello All, Myself and a group of friends wish to connect to WWW by using a permanent connection but if we all have 33.6K modems and are all connected then it seems that we require at least a 512K connection which is prohibitively expensive ! Question 1. Is the calculation: number of possible users = permanent speed div users connection speed correct ? (ie. 512K / 33.6K = 15.238... users) - I imagined that a high speed connection such as 512K would support 1000 users not just 15 ! You are making the assumption that all users would be downloading at exactly the same time. Most of your time spent on the web is spent actually reading what you've just downloading, during which time the connection is idle and others can use that bandwidth. Question 2. If we do not intend to host our own web pages on our computer do we need to use a web server such as Apache ? If not, what is the mechanism for accessing the web through a single computer ? Don't need Apache. There are two methods by which this is done. 1) IP Masquerading: One computer is connected to the Net and forwards all IP traffic back-and-forth transparently. This is probably your best solution. 2) A proxy server like Squid: It will act as a Web Server to all the computers on your local net. When you request a web page, it will fetch it and then forward it to the requesting machine. The advantage of this is that it will cache the pages and if several users on your local net request the same Web page, it only needs to fetch it from the Net once. The disadvantage is that it will only work for protocols like http and ftp, and not for other stuff. You can use both solutions together to get the advantages of each. Question 3. If we use Apache (or other server software), how does it work ??? I mean, does Apache request the page from the remote server, download to its own memory at, say, 512K and then send to the user at 33.6K or are all requests done at the speed of the user so that 15 users as calculated in question 1 is correct ? Although Apache can be set up to be used as a Proxy Server, Squid is much better. How it works: Apache/Squid will download the page form the Net at 512K and store it in memory or on disk. It will send it to your computer at the speed of the local network connection (10Mb or 100Mb). If the page is in the cache, it will work at the speed of the local net (really fast), if it has to fetch it from the 512K line, it will work at that speed (still pretty fast). Hope this helps, -Mitch
Re: Monitor vs X servers
Video card is a Diamond Stealth 1MB DRAM, and strictly from possibly impaired memory, an ISA card with S3 Trio VESA something- or-other, probably new in 1996. Which of these two cards you are actually using? The X server should be choosing according to the card. There is a list of supported cards for each X server, I think in that Hardware-Compatibility-HowTo. There is only one card, displaying the info through DOS MSD command shows a subset of info for the VESA stuff, which I have no idea if it's used or not. The card is supported, my question is what X servers will both the card and the monitor support, or am I stuck with VGA16 for my server? Thanks, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: Re: ICQ over IP Masquerading
I didn't see this come through the first time, so here is a repost. --Jay Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 17:42:10 -0500 To: Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Jay Barbee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ICQ over IP Masquerading At 11/30/98 02:42 PM -0500, you wrote: Has anyone gotten ICQ to work over Linux IP Masquerading? Someone said something about telling Linux that ICQ uses ports 2000 to 4000, but I don't know what to do with them or how. Can anyone help? You need to set up on the Linux side: /sbin/ipautofw -A -r tcp 2000 4000 -c udp 4000 -u and in ICQ you need to go into the preferences and go to the Connection tab, and tell it you have a permanent connetion to the internet and you are behind a firewall. Next click the Firewall settings button. Next say you don't use a SOCKS proxy server and click NEXT. They select the TCP ports 2000 - 4000. That is it! You will need to close ICQ (not just disconnect) and reopen it for the changes to take effect. --Jay
php 3.0.5 needs apache_common_1.3.3!!
I need to install php3.05 but it has a dependency of apache common. The only version available from the debian web site is apache-common_1.3.0+1.19-1.deb. PHP 3.05 needs 1.3.3 or higher of the apache-common. Two questions: 1) I am in the US, the apache-common is a non-us package. Is it legal for me to use it. I thought that SSLEAY was legal worldwide. 2) Where can I find the apache-common_1.3.3 debian package. Is there another site besides the www.debian.org that is useful for finding debian packages? Thanks, J Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
Re: Is this really the right thing to do?
Subject: Is this really the right thing to do? Date: Sat, Nov 28, 1998 at 03:16:07PM -0500 In reply to:Ed Cogburn Quoting Ed Cogburn([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I've been watching the explosive growth of deb packages in slink, now around 2700 packages. Recently, the split-up of X11 into around 12 packages and the numerous packages used in slink for the Netscape programs and the huge number (around 30) of packages that has to be installed for the GNOME system, is, I fear, putting strain on an already strained dpkg/apt/dselect management system. The X11 split-up is particularly worrisome because the packages don't have a common prefix in the name, i.e. xfonts-100-xxx, xbase, xterm. Without a common prefix, the packages do not show up in the same place in dselect's selection screen. At the very least, all packages in X11 system should have a name that starts with 'X11-', for example. The developers of dpkg could do something like add a 'package grouping' feature that lets newcomers (especially newbies to X11) understand the relationship between packages. This feature would, I fear, strain the dpkg system even more. I'm starting to see occasional failures under dselect/apt/dpkg that fortunately, for now, are transient (i.e. rerun dselect/apt and the failure doesn't reoccur). It suggests to me that we are pushing our package management software beyond its capability. Does anyone else have the same concerns? Yes, definitely! I have put off continuning client changeover from slackware to debian due to these same concerns. Not to mention the condition of the current slink. -- Ed C. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Real computer scientists despise the idea of actual hardware. Hardware has limitations, software doesn't. It's a real shame that Turing machines are so poor at I/O. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Monitor vs X servers
There is only one card, displaying the info through DOS MSD command shows a subset of info for the VESA stuff, which I have no idea if it's used or not. Oh... that S3 Trio is the chipset of the card. The card is supported, my question is what X servers will both the card and the monitor support, or am I stuck with VGA16 for my server? The X server has nothing to do with the monitor. I have no access to the Net or to my Debian machine from where I am now, so I can't check which is the right X server. Certainly, if the card is supported it means support above VGA16. Perhaps the SVGA X server, but I am not sure. Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra Amdocs Brasil Ltda
Re: ISDN connection
Thanks for the complete and very speedy response Mitch - now I know why I use and preach Debian !!! SNIP to save bandwidth ! Ivan.
Re: php 3.0.5 needs apache_common_1.3.3!!
On 1 Dec 1998, James Ryan wrote: 1) I am in the US, the apache-common is a non-us package. Is it legal for me to use it. I thought that SSLEAY was legal worldwide. There is a current apache-common in slink/main 2) Where can I find the apache-common_1.3.3 debian package. Is there slink/main/binary-i386/web/apache-common* on any debian ftp mirror -- Madarasz Gergely [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's practically impossible to look at a penguin and feel angry. Egy pingvinre gyakorlatilag lehetetlen haragosan nezni. HuLUG: http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/
