upgrading problem

[Lonnie Sauter]

I am having a problem upgrading.  Any help would be appreciated.  Here is
the output which is similar for all packages:

(88) # dpkg -i oleo_1.6-15.deb 
Selecting previously deselected package oleo.
(Reading database ... 38163 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace oleo 1.6-14 (using oleo_1.6-15.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement oleo ...
install-info: failed to lock dir for editing! No such file or directory
dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 2
dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...
install-info: failed to lock dir for editing! No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing oleo_1.6-15.deb (--install):
 subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 2
install-info: failed to lock dir for editing! No such file or directory
dpkg: error while cleaning up:
 subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
 oleo_1.6-15.deb

TIA

Lon


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Re: dualboot linux and NT?

[Jean Pierre LeJacq]

On 21 Jan 1999, Frederick Page wrote:

> And I boot LILO with the NT-Bootmanager, also works fine.
> 
> >  partition-1   Windows-NT, 4.0-service pack 4, NTFS
> >  partition-2   FAT32, pagefile.sys, only used for virtual memory
> 
> How does that work? I was always under the impression, that Fat32 was not  
> supported by NT 4.0.

Hmmm ... I just checked and indeed my second partition is FAT16.
Still, I'm not sure if NT 4.0 doesn't support FAT32.  Its a nonissue
for me since all I use partition 2 for is the pagefile.sys.

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Re: vfat -> cp: file: Operation not permitted

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 06:38:13PM +, Pere Camps wrote:
> > No, there is probably not. It comes from the fact that cp tries to set
> > some permissions on the destination file. That is actually not possible
> > for VFAT. 
> 
>   That's a sensible explanation. 
> 
> > (I would prefer VFAT to silently ignore that)
> 
>   Me too. 

Yes, "quiet" in the options line does this IIRC.

"zip" for example encounters the same problem when creating a zip on
FAT/VFAT, and removes the created zip file! Most annoying.

Hamish
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Graphic WWW browser for a slow machine?

[Daniel González Gasull]

Hi! :-)

My potato system: i486 DX2 66 MHz with 8 MB RAM
powered by Linux Debian 2.0.

Which graphic browser may/must I use?

I want it has HTML 4.0 and Java.  And be fast.  Does I
ask too much?

Things that I can live without: email, telnet or ftp
access.  I prefer that the browser calls external
programs.  Especially with email.  I don't like email
built-in programs of browsers.

TIA :-)

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Re: Desktop manager for X Window in a slow computer?

[Daniel González Gasull]

Hi!

Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 07:41:56PM +0100, Daniel González Gasull wrote:
> > I have a potato i486 DX2 66 MHz with 8 MB RAM running
> > X with Linux Debian 2.0.  Which desktop manager for X
> > Window may/must I use?
> 
> You mean "desktop environment", or window manager?

Ooops!

> A window manager is the thing that puts borders and
> titles on your windows and lets you move them
> around, resize them, iconify them, etc.  Most (all?)
> also have pop-up menus that can be used to launch
> other applications if properly configured.
> 
> A desktop environment is much more complicated thing
> with a really blue-sky definition.  It does nifty
> things like let you drag and drop between different
> applications and more complcated stuff.  KDE and
> GNOME are two prominent examples.  You may not get
> satisfying performance out of either of them on an
> old 486.  But I really can't say since I don't use
> either one.

Thanx 8-)

> fvwm and fvwm2 are a couple of very popular
> alternatives based on twm, but are more featureful.
> fvwm (version 1) was designed to not hog too many
> system resources.  I used it happily for a couple of
> years; I now use fvwm2.

I use fvwm.  I'll try fvwm2.

Andreas Sliwka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Just take a window manager with a (very)small memory
> footprint, mw2, blackbox, or icewm

Ok.  Thanx.

Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'll throw in my suggestion for icewm.  It looks
> much nicer than twm, isn't too configurable, but is
> nice and small.  Mind you, this is the gnome version
> and I think the normal one would be smaller.

Thank you very much :-)

C U L8R.

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Re: X manager installation changes /dev/mouse from psaux to ttyS0

[Oliver Elphick]

BOHICA wrote:
  >I tried re-symlinking /dev/mouse to /dev/psaux
  >BOHICA:/dev$ rm mouse
  >BOHICA:/dev$ ln -s /dev/mouse /dev/psaux
  >but for some reason this causes /dev/psaux to link to /dev/ttyS0.
  
You got the command back-to-front.

  >So now I have: /dev/mouse => /dev/ttyS0 and /dev/psaux => /dev/ttyS0
  >
  >Can anyone help me resolve this?  I am quite out of my depth here (not
  >that I was too deep to begin with).

As superuser, do:

  ln -sf /dev/psaux /dev/mouse

and maybe

  ln -sf /dev/ttyS0 /dev/modem

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Re: SQL packages

[Oliver Elphick]

Greg Frye wrote:
  >I have PostgreSQL loaded on a Redhat box (I couldn't get the Debian
  >package running, Debian 1.3.1).

Was that postgres95? If you have problems with the current PostgreSQL
packages, please let me know about them.

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Re: debian installation

[Frederick Page]

Hi rod,

you wrote on: 21 Jan 99 at 23:15 (received 22.01.99)
about   : _debian installation_

>my system started blinking every half second.  It was locked up so I =
>rebooted.  Same thing.  Now, I have selected the packages for home =

Try the following:

install Debian, after reboot only select BASIC. This mode is tested (while  
the others also gave me many errors). Then install X-Server after that and  
answer NO to the question "do you want X to startup upon boot?".

Kind regards

Frederick

X manager installation changes /dev/mouse from psaux to ttyS0

[BOHICA]

For both hamm and slink installs:

On installing the X11 packages (WindowMaker -- hoping to follow it with
fvwm2 or Gnome), my mouse and my modem stopped working.  When I looked
into possible causes I discovered that somewhere in the install,
/dev/mouse => /dev/psaux is changed to /dev/mouse => /dev/ttyS0.

This causes a few problems in that my modem is connected to what the
BIOS calls COM1 (ttyS0) and the mouse is connected to a 6-pin mini DIN
receptacle attached to the motherboards PS/2 mouse port.

Until the X11 install runs, both the modem and the mouse work properly.
After, neither works.

I tried re-symlinking /dev/mouse to /dev/psaux
BOHICA:/dev$ rm mouse
BOHICA:/dev$ ln -s /dev/mouse /dev/psaux
but for some reason this causes /dev/psaux to link to /dev/ttyS0.

So now I have: /dev/mouse => /dev/ttyS0 and /dev/psaux => /dev/ttyS0

Can anyone help me resolve this?  I am quite out of my depth here (not
that I was too deep to begin with).

- BOHICA

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Re: MD5sum in Packages (was: No ldd?)

[Jason Gunthorpe]

On 21 Jan 1999, Riku Saikkonen wrote:

> George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >Note that I am using the apt method of dselect using the round-robin
> >mirrors so I have no idea which site I was really connected to when I got
> >the bad .deb
> 
> Does apt check the MD5sum of the package against that in the Packages
> file? Does dpkg do that (I suppose not, since I don't think it reads
> Packages files)?

APT does if it downloads it and dpkg cannot really..

Jason

Re: Non-us mirrors

[Jason Gunthorpe]

On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Nathan E Norman wrote:

> Since non-us.debian.org is down, does anyone have recommendations for
> other non-us mirrors easily accessible from the central US?  http sites
> preferred but I can live with ftp.

Down? Hmm..

http://www.debian.org/~jgg/Mirrors has my list.

Jason

Non-us mirrors

[Nathan E Norman]

Since non-us.debian.org is down, does anyone have recommendations for
other non-us mirrors easily accessible from the central US?  http sites
preferred but I can live with ftp.

Thanks,

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Re: ISDN PPP

[Martin Bialasinski]

Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene ipppd[177]: rcvd [0][LCP ConfReq id=0x1  ]

You want the other end to authenticate.

Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene ipppd[177]: peer refused to authenticate

It refuses.

Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene ipppd[177]: sent [0][LCP TermReq id=0x3 70 65 65

You hang up.


# AUTHENTICATION

name aaa# set local name for auth
user aaa# set name for auth with peer
#usehostname# use hostname for auth
#remotename X   # set remote name for auth
#noauth # (dont) require peer (the other) to auth
require-pap # allow only pap authetication
#require-chap   # allow only chap authentication
login   # use system password database for pap
#papcrypt   # pap passwords are encrypted

This rather should be (only active options listed):

# AUTHENTICATION

name username # set local name for auth
remotename providername   # set remote name for auth

with /etc/ppp/pap-secrets having:

usernameprovidernamepassword

Don't forget to /etc/init.d/isdnutils restart after your changes.

Ciao,
Martin

gnome dependencies problem

[Brian Morgan]

I'm trying to install gnome from one of it's mirrors, and having some
dependecy problems I can't figure out.
Dselect allows me to select all the required base files, except when I
select the "orbit" package, dselect gives me a dependency error saying that
liborbit0 is required by orbit.  The only problem is, is I already have
liborbit0 installed, and dselect even indicates that.  It's looking for ver.
0.3.0-1, which is exactly what I have installed (from the same mirror site -
ftp.cuc.ml.org/mirrors/ftp.gnome.org)

Any suggestions here?  I've even gone through, removed liborbit0, and all
gnome files, then reselected them to no avail.

Thanks,

Brian

Re: Install new programs

[Richard Hall]

On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Nuno Donato wrote:

> I have mount the Cd Rom to access som CDs, but now nothing 
> on them work. Is it because I am in Linux or what. I have 
> Netscape 4.05 in a Mag Cd, But the install file won't work. 
> What can I do. Nestcape doesn't need Windows to work, does 
> it?

No it doesn't, but the install file might.  Is it a .exe file?  If so, it
needs Windows.  Why don't you just download Netscape from ftp.netscape.com
or a mirror, download the netscape4_4.0-12.deb package, and let it install
Netscape for you?  It will install 4.08 or even 4.5.  Just put both
downloaded files in /tmp, make root the owner of the .gz file, and type
(as root) 'dpkg -i netscape4_4.0-12.deb'.


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Re: ISDN PPP

[Patrick Mauritz]

> PM> There are two possibilities what happens (depends on kernel
> PM> (2.0.35/2.0.36, version of isdnutils and configuration):
>
> 1. You need the isdnutils 3.0 package
> 2. uncomment "debug" in /etc/isdn/ipppd.ippp0
>
> You will then see more output in syslog.
>
> You can send us the relevant parts, if you can't interpret them.

So here they are:
I also send my config files as attachment

--snip--
Jan 22 22:32:44 oxygene syslogd 1.3-3#26: restart.
Jan 22 22:32:44 oxygene anacron[139]: Anacron 2.0.1 started on 1999-01-22
Jan 22 22:32:45 oxygene anacron[139]: Normal exit (0 jobs run)
Jan 22 22:32:45 oxygene kernel: isdn: Verbose-Level is 3
Jan 22 22:32:46 oxygene kernel: Appletalk 0.17 for Linux NET3.035
Jan 22 22:32:47 oxygene ipppd[172]: Found 1 device: /dev/ippp0
Jan 22 22:32:47 oxygene kernel: isdn_ppp_select: minor: 0, type: 1
Jan 22 22:32:47 oxygene kernel: isdn_ppp_select: minor: 0, type: 1
Jan 22 22:32:47 oxygene ipppd[177]: ipppd i2.2.10 (isdn4linux version of pppd 
by MH)
started
Jan 22 22:32:47 oxygene ipppd[177]: init_unit: 0
Jan 22 22:32:47 oxygene ipppd[177]: Connect[0]: /dev/ippp0, fd: 8
Jan 22 22:32:48 oxygene /usr/sbin/lpd[182]: Setuplog: open /dev/null failed -
Permission denied
Jan 22 22:32:49 oxygene xntpd[208]: xntpd 3-5.93a Mon Jun 15 23:56:10 MDT 1998 
(1)
Jan 22 22:32:50 oxygene proftpd[217]: attempted bind to 0.0.0.0, port 21
Jan 22 22:32:50 oxygene proftpd[217]: bind() failed in inet_create_connection():
Address already in use
Jan 22 22:32:50 oxygene xntpd[208]: tickadj = 5, tick = 1, tvu_maxslew = 
495, est.
hz = 100
Jan 22 22:32:50 oxygene xntpd[208]: precision = 21 usec
Jan 22 22:32:50 oxygene atd[219]: Error redirecting I/O: Permission denied
Jan 22 22:32:51 oxygene /usr/sbin/cron[222]: (CRON) STARTUP (fork ok)
Jan 22 22:33:30 oxygene kernel: ippp0: dialing 1 ((remotenumber))...
Jan 22 22:33:32 oxygene kernel: isdn_net: ippp0 connected
Jan 22 22:33:32 oxygene kernel: isdn_net: chargetime of ippp0 now 8220
Jan 22 22:33:32 oxygene ipppd[177]: Local number: ((localnumber)), Remote 
number:
((remotenumber)), Type: outgoing
Jan 22 22:33:32 oxygene ipppd[177]: PHASE_WAIT -> PHASE_ESTABLISHED, ifunit: 0,
linkunit: 0, fd: 8
Jan 22 22:33:32 oxygene kernel: isdn_ppp_select: minor: 0, type: 1
Jan 22 22:33:32 oxygene kernel: isdn_ppp_ioctl: minor: 0 cmd: 80047456 state: 3
Jan 22 22:33:32 oxygene kernel: isdn_ppp_ioctl: minor: 0 cmd: c0887480 state: 3
Jan 22 22:33:32 oxygene ipppd[177]: sent [0][LCP ConfReq id=0x1  
]
Jan 22 22:33:32 oxygene kernel: isdn_ppp_select: minor: 0, type: 1
Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene last message repeated 2 times
Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene kernel: isdn_ppp_ioctl: minor: 0 cmd: 40047452 state: 3
Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene kernel: isdn_ppp_ioctl: minor: 0 cmd: 8004745a state: 3
Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene kernel: isdn_ppp_ioctl: minor: 0 cmd: 40047459 state: 3
Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene kernel: isdn_ppp_select: minor: 0, type: 1
Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene kernel: isdn_ppp_select: minor: 0, type: 1
Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene ipppd[177]: rcvd [0][LCP ConfReq id=0x1 
]
Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene ipppd[177]: sent [0][LCP ConfAck id=0x1 
]
Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene kernel: isdn_ppp_select: minor: 0, type: 1
Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene last message repeated 2 times
Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene ipppd[177]: rcvd [0][LCP ConfNak id=0x1 ]
Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene ipppd[177]: sent [0][LCP ConfReq id=0x2 ]
Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene kernel: isdn_ppp_select: minor: 0, type: 1
Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene kernel: isdn_ppp_ioctl: minor: 0 cmd: 8004745a state: 3
Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene kernel: isdn_ppp_ioctl: minor: 0 cmd: 40047459 state: 3
Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene kernel: isdn_ppp_ioctl: minor: 0 cmd: 40047452 state: 3
Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene kernel: isdn_ppp_ioctl: minor: 0 cmd: 8004745a state: 3
Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene kernel: isdn_ppp_ioctl: minor: 0 cmd: 40047459 state: 3
Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene ipppd[177]: rcvd [0][LCP ConfAck id=0x2 ]
Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene ipppd[177]: lcp layer is UP
Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene ipppd[177]: peer refused to authenticate
Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene ipppd[177]: sent [0][LCP TermReq id=0x3 70 65 65 72 20 
72 65
66 75 73 65 64 20 74 6f 20 61 75 74 68 65 6e 74 69 63 61 74 65]
Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene kernel: isdn_ppp_ioctl: minor: 0 cmd: 8004745a state: 3
Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene kernel: isdn_ppp_ioctl: minor: 0 cmd: 40047459 state: 3
Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene kernel: isdn_ppp_ioctl: minor: 0 cmd: 40047452 state: 3
Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene kernel: isdn_ppp_ioctl: minor: 0 cmd: 8004745a state: 3
Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene kernel: isdn_ppp_ioctl: minor: 0 cmd: 40047459 state: 3
Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene kernel: isdn_ppp_select: minor: 0, type: 1
Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene last message repeated 2 times
Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene kernel: ippp: release, minor: 0 7809018
Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene kernel: isdn_net: local hangup ippp0
Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene kernel: isdn_ppp_free 0 7809018 7809018
Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene kernel: ippp0: Chargesum is 0
Jan 22 22:33:33 oxygene kernel: ippp, open, slot: 0, minor: 0, state:

Install new programs

[Nuno Donato]

I have mount the Cd Rom to access som CDs, but now nothing 
on them work. Is it because I am in Linux or what. I have 
Netscape 4.05 in a Mag Cd, But the install file won't work. 
What can I do. Nestcape doesn't need Windows to work, does 
it?



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Re: SQL packages

[Greg Frye]

Adam Keys wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > All,
> > Does anyone know if there are any SQL database servers that are MS
> > SQL 6.5 compatible and work with Debian?  Also, would it support integrated
> > security and if not how hard do you expect it to be to write something like
> > that?(I assume most of the work has already been done by the samba package.)
> > If I can find something that does basically everything our current server
> > does (or pretty close even), then I'm going to replace it with a Debian box
> > that I can rely on.
> 
I'm looking for the same thing... a replacement for my (4) NT 4.0/SQL
6.5 boxes.

I have PostgreSQL loaded on a Redhat box (I couldn't get the Debian
package running, Debian 1.3.1).  I was able to run some of my SQL 6.5
scripts to create a database, tables, and insert data with the psql
utility.  The scripts had to be modified a little (psql didn't like
using NULL in create tables statement).

With the PostODBC driver on an NT workstation (I think it will work on
Win95), I was able to connect to the PostgreSQL database from Access97. 
Unfortunately, my custom application that is the reason for the SQL 6.5
database servers would not talk to the database (I think it is the
syntax of the OBDC calls).

I am also looking at Sybase ASE that can be downloaded from the Redhat
and Caldera sites.  I have it installed but have not had time to try it
out (babysitting NT, SQL 6.5, and the application).  I read that a
reviewer of Redhat 5.2 tried it and was able to use the Microsoft ODBC
driver (MS ODBC saw it as an older MS SQL server).

I favor PostgreSQL (if I can get it to work or can talk my vendor to
support it) because of the open source aspect. I haven't tried mysql but
don't not think my application would do well with flat text files.
> --
> a) compatible with sql server?  so far as odbc, mysql and postgreSQL offer 
> odbc,
> which is probably how you connect to your server.  the tables, however, are
> stored in a binary format in sql server (AFAIK), while mysql stores the data 
> in
> flat text files.  you're going to need to do some SQL trickery to move the 
> data
> across; the data files cannot be copied from one system to another.  my
> recommendation is to go with mysql, both for its enormous speed advantage, and
> also for it's great security.
> 
> b) samba doesn't really do much you would want to do with a database, in all
> instances i've seen
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Re: xdm

[servis]

*- Michael Stenner wrote about "Re: xdm"
> New xdm question:
> 
> My box is set up to start xdm automatically.  Can I start linux without
> xdm starting?  I would even settle for having it run but not on the
> screen.
> 
> Reason I care:
> 
> I had a video card go bad and I wasn't sure that my new video card could
> handle what xdm was going to automatically send it when my computer came
> up.  I'm pretty sure that using a root disk and then mounting / to edit
> stuff (that was already mentioned on this thread) would work, but it
> surprises me that there isn't a more elegant solution.
> 
>   -Michael
> 

A few options:

1) Use your rescue disk to boot and then mount the partion that has
/etc on it under /mnt and edit /mnt/etc/X11/config and change the
xdm-start to no-xdm-start. Reboot.

2) Use lilo or loadlin(whatever boot method you used) to boot single
user and edit /etc/X11/config as in 1 and then hit ctrl-D to exit
single user and finish the startup as usual.

3) Let it go and if it starts but is totally screwed just hit
ctrl-alt-f1 to get to the first virtual terminal and login as root and
then issue '/etc/init.d/xdm stop'.  But if the xserver fails for
whatever reason you will get stuck in an infinite loop.  Xdm is
supposed to trap this and die after a few times but does not and has
many bug reports filled against it. #5635, #15897, #15898, #22544,
#23139, #22406, #27967. But if it does this you only choice is to hit
the reset and pray.


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Re-partioning a ext2 disk without loosing data

[Mario Bertrand]

Hi,

Here is my situation. I had windoze installed on a second hard drive that
crashed recently. Now i would like to re-intall it on my first hard wich is
partioned and formated with linux on it. I have a spare partition for backups 
purpose at the end of the drive on /dev/hda8 that i can split and intall
windoze on it. It is possible to re-partition only that part of the hard drive
without loosing data and what would be the best way to do that? Will
windoze be able to boot from there if there is LBA option in my Bios?

Thank's

Mario Bertrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Debian goes big business?

[David Stern]

On Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:38:54 +0100, "J.H.M. Dassen" wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 20:26:12 +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 06:12:14PM -0500, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> > > They should have `a word to say', and they do--they can subscribe to
> > > Debian lists and give their feedback and advice, which developers are
> > > free to follow or ignore.  But they do not, and should not, IMO, have
> > > the privilege of voting or otherwise setting policy.  Users are not
> > > developers and shouldn't presume to be.
> >
> > i mostly agree but wouldn't put it anywhere near that strongly.
> 
> I would. Ben's phrasing strongly reminds me of Robert A. Heinlein;
> especially of the concept of TANSTAAFL and the political system he describes
> in "Starship Troopers", where the right to vote must be earned through a
> tour of duty of public (not necessary military) service.
> 
> In the case of Debian, users do not have the right of vote, but can earn it
> by becoming developers (i.e. by maintaining packages, but also by writing
> documentation, maintaining the website etc.).

I thought it used to be that the website maintainer had no vote and 
that package maintainers only had to subscribe to -devel.  If still 
true, this is not a "earn voting right by public service" system (per 
JHMD's definition) and regular direct feedback between users and 
developers is not actively promoted (per Ben).  What's the official 
word on this now?

I agree with Craig that Ben's view is in the right direction, but is 
worded too strongly.  i.e.: I'm not sure when a user presumed to be a 
developer.  I wonder if someone has been outgrowing hats lately.

David Stern

Re: xdm

[Shaleh]

On 22-Jan-99 Michael Stenner wrote:
> New xdm question:
> 
> My box is set up to start xdm automatically.  Can I start linux without
> xdm starting?  I would even settle for having it run but not on the
> screen.
> 

xdm either runs or it does not, xdm starts the Xserver.  What you can do is
make on on the /etc/rc?.d directories NOT contain a link to xdm.  Then change
the default runlevel in /etc/inittab to match the rc?.d you edited.  When you
want xdm to start, either

a) use telinit to change to another runlevel

b) edit inittab and reboot

Hope that was clear enough, if not say so and it can be explained in more
detail.

Re: xdm

[Kent West]

At 03:09 PM 1/22/1999 -0500, Michael Stenner wrote:
>New xdm question:
>
>My box is set up to start xdm automatically.  Can I start linux without
>xdm starting?  I would even settle for having it run but not on the
>screen.
>
>Reason I care:
>
>I had a video card go bad and I wasn't sure that my new video card could
>handle what xdm was going to automatically send it when my computer came
>up.  I'm pretty sure that using a root disk and then mounting / to edit
>stuff (that was already mentioned on this thread) would work, but it
>surprises me that there isn't a more elegant solution.
>
>   -Michael
>
>  Michael Stenner  Office Phone: 919-660-2513
>  Duke University, Dept. of Physics  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Box 90305, Durham N.C. 27708-0305

Ya know, as obvious as that is, it never occurred to me. The xdm maintainer
might want to be given the suggestion to provide some sort of hot-key to
avoid starting xdm or to cancel out of it. Good idea, Micheal.

Re: xdm

[Michael Stenner]

New xdm question:

My box is set up to start xdm automatically.  Can I start linux without
xdm starting?  I would even settle for having it run but not on the
screen.

Reason I care:

I had a video card go bad and I wasn't sure that my new video card could
handle what xdm was going to automatically send it when my computer came
up.  I'm pretty sure that using a root disk and then mounting / to edit
stuff (that was already mentioned on this thread) would work, but it
surprises me that there isn't a more elegant solution.

-Michael

  Michael Stenner   Office Phone: 919-660-2513
  Duke University, Dept. of Physics   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Box 90305, Durham N.C. 27708-0305

Re: ISDN PPP

[Martin Bialasinski]

>> "PM" == Patrick Mauritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

PM> There are two possibilities what happens (depends on kernel
PM> (2.0.35/2.0.36, version of isdnutils and configuration):

1. You need the isdnutils 3.0 package
2. uncomment "debug" in /etc/isdn/ipppd.ippp0

You will then see more output in syslog.

You can send us the relevant parts, if you can't interpret them.

Ciao,
Martin

Re: xdm

[Kirk Hogenson]

Brian Morgan wrote:

>>> There is no /etc/X11/config file on my machine.  Is something
>>> wrong?  I'm running slink.
>>
>> Hmm, I don't have my machine handy so I can't check.  Could be
>> called "Config" or "X11Config" or something else...
>>
>> You can try to grep for it:
>>
>>   grep start-xdm /etc/X11/*
>>
>> That should list all of the files that contain the text "start-xdm"
>> in that directory.
>
> nothing there. thanks for the time you've taken sofar.  There is an
> XF86Config file, but I don't think that's right.  I've got the
> /etc/X11/config file on another machine running hamm here.  It just 
> doesn't seem to be on my new slink laptop.

I don't think that the file has changed/moved in slink, though I
admit I'm not running it.  I'm redirecting this back to the list
so someone can correct me if I am wrong.

(The file XF86Config is your X-Windows configuration file, it was
created when you ran "xf86config" or "XF86Setup".  It doesn't contain
any info regarding xdm.)

Did you upgrade from hamm -> slink?  If so, then your problem might
be a result of a splitting in the xbase package between hamm and
slink.  (That is, the files in the "xbase" package were divided
among a lot of new packages.)  The developers are working on a "fake"
xbase package that will automatically refer to the new packages, but
that was only added (if it has even been added yet) recently, so
you might not have gotten everything you needed when you upgraded.

If this is the case, you can try installing the "xdm" package using apt-get. 
You probably would want to install "xbase" if it does
exist in slink yet.

(It does seem, though, that you'd be having other problems with X as
well if this really was your problem.  Does everything else work ok?)

Another thing you can do is modify /etc/init.d/xdm.  Just add
"exit 0" near the top of the file, this will trick Debian into
thinking it really did start xdm but actually didn't.  (Debian
runs "/etc/init.d/xdm start" during bootup.)

Good luck!

Kirk

Re: help with bash script

[Rafael Kitover]

On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 03:18:40PM +0200, Johann Spies wrote:
> Hallo,
> 
> I am just starting to use small bash scripts on my system and I enjoy it.
> 
> I am using the following bash script to query my postgresql database using
> "van" (surname) as search field:
> 
> time echo "select noemnaam,van,adres1,telefoon,werktelefoon,selfoon,faks
> from lidmate,besoekpunt where lower(van) like lower('$1%') and bpnommer =
> besoekpunt.nommer order by van, noemnaam;" | psql jhspies
> 
> I use it like this:
> 
> telef marais
> 
> When I want to narrow the search I use it in the following way:
> 
> telef marais | grep -i gert
> 
> supplying a name (gert) to look for.
> 
> I want to modify my script so that I can do either
> 
> telef marais 
> or
> telef marais gert
> 
> What I do not know is how to handle the possible second argument on the
> command line.  The script must be able to use the second argument if there
> is one otherwise it should use the query as it is at the moment.

Hi Johann,

I'm no shell expert by perhaps something like this:

#!/bin/sh

ROWS="noemnaam,van,adres1,telefoon,werktelefoon,selfoon,faks"
TABLES="lidmate,besoekpunt"
CONSTRAINTS="lower(van) like lower('$1%') and bpnommer = \
besoekpunt.nommer"

if [ ! -z "$2" ]
then
  CONSTRAINTS="$CONSTRAINTS and firstname=lower('$2%')"
fi

ORDER="van, noemnaam"

time echo "select $ROWS from $TABLES where $CONSTRAINTS \
   order by $ORDER;" | psql $LOGNAME

Not tested of course :)

-- 
Rafael Kitover
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Trackball in X

[Shaleh]

On 22-Jan-99 Brian Morgan wrote:
> Now trying to use a built in trackball from my laptop as the mouse, and
> can't seem to make it work.  A serial mouse attached to the back works just
> fine.  Is there another device name (other than /dev/ttyS0) that I need to
> use from the XF86Setup?  I haven't tried all of them, but is there a
> particular mouse type (microsoft, logitech, auto) that works best on these
> trackballs?  I've enabled it in CMOS, so it should work ok.  Any
> suggestions?
> 
> Thanks again everyone.
> 

Most laptop mice actually use the ps/2 protocol, try making a link in /dev from
psaux to mouse and tell X to use /dev/mouse.

This has the advantage that if you mouse changes, you just change the link.
The link command is ln -s  .

RE: xdm

[Brian Morgan]

There is no /etc/X11/config file on my machine.  Is something wrong?  I'm
running slink.

Brian

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 1999 12:54 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: xdm
>
>
> In a message dated 1/22/99 1:43:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> << I can't seem to find any file in /etc/X11 that has a line with
> "start-xdm"
>  in it.  X (and hence, xdm) is starting on boot.  Is there a way to change
>  that?  All I've done to make this happen was install the xdm
> package.  Also,
>  is there any way to quit the xserver while using xdm without it
>  automatically bringing back the xdm login screen (and hence starting X
>  again)?
>   >>
>
> * /etc/X11/config should contain the line 'start-xdm', you can
> add the line
> 'no-start-xdm' to turn it off.
>
> * The nature (and purpose) of xdm is that when you log off, you
> are presented
> with another login screen.  If that's not what you're after, you should
> probably just start X up manually with 'startx' instead of using xdm.
>
> Jay
>
>
> --
> Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
>
>

Star Office 3.1 install problem

[dennisco]

I'm running the XF86_SVGA X server under Debian 2.0.

I downloaded Staroffice31-common.tar.gz, StarOffice31-english.tar.gz and
StarOffice31-statbin.tar.gz to /usr/local.  When untarred they installed
to /usr/local/StarOffice-3.1.  When I try to run ./setup (X or not X) I
get:

StarOffice3.1 Installation Tool
Segmentation fault

Will someone tell me what additional steps I need to take to install
this package? Thanks.

Dennis Cousins
Miccosukee, Florida

Trackball in X

[Brian Morgan]

Now trying to use a built in trackball from my laptop as the mouse, and
can't seem to make it work.  A serial mouse attached to the back works just
fine.  Is there another device name (other than /dev/ttyS0) that I need to
use from the XF86Setup?  I haven't tried all of them, but is there a
particular mouse type (microsoft, logitech, auto) that works best on these
trackballs?  I've enabled it in CMOS, so it should work ok.  Any
suggestions?

Thanks again everyone.

Brian

Re: xdm

[MallarJ]

In a message dated 1/22/99 1:43:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< I can't seem to find any file in /etc/X11 that has a line with "start-xdm"
 in it.  X (and hence, xdm) is starting on boot.  Is there a way to change
 that?  All I've done to make this happen was install the xdm package.  Also,
 is there any way to quit the xserver while using xdm without it
 automatically bringing back the xdm login screen (and hence starting X
 again)?
  >>

* /etc/X11/config should contain the line 'start-xdm', you can add the line
'no-start-xdm' to turn it off.

* The nature (and purpose) of xdm is that when you log off, you are presented
with another login screen.  If that's not what you're after, you should
probably just start X up manually with 'startx' instead of using xdm.

Jay

help with bash script

[Johann Spies]

Hallo,

I am just starting to use small bash scripts on my system and I enjoy it.

I am using the following bash script to query my postgresql database using
"van" (surname) as search field:

time echo "select noemnaam,van,adres1,telefoon,werktelefoon,selfoon,faks
from lidmate,besoekpunt where lower(van) like lower('$1%') and bpnommer =
besoekpunt.nommer order by van, noemnaam;" | psql jhspies

I use it like this:

telef marais

When I want to narrow the search I use it in the following way:

telef marais | grep -i gert

supplying a name (gert) to look for.

I want to modify my script so that I can do either

telef marais 
or
telef marais gert

What I do not know is how to handle the possible second argument on the
command line.  The script must be able to use the second argument if there
is one otherwise it should use the query as it is at the moment.

I have looked at the bash man page, but could so far not find an answer.

Johann

 --
| Johann Spies Windsorlaan 19  |
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]3201 Pietermaritzburg |
| Tel/Faks Nr. +27 331-46-1310 Suid-Afrika (South Africa)  |
 --

 "He that giveth unto the poor shall not lack..."   
 Proverbs 28:27 

Re: xdm

[Kirk Hogenson]

Brian Morgan wrote:
> 
> I can't seem to find any file in /etc/X11 that has a line with
> "start-xdm" in it.  X (and hence, xdm) is starting on boot.  Is there 
> a way to change that?  All I've done to make this happen was install 
> the xdm package. 

I believe the file is /etc/X11/config ...

> Also, is there any way to quit the xserver while using xdm without it
> automatically bringing back the xdm login screen (and hence starting X
> again)?

You can press CTRL-ALT-F1 to get back to the virtual console,
then do 

  /etc/init.d/xdm stop

to actually stop xdm.

Kirk

ISDN PPP

[Patrick Mauritz]

Hello debian-users
I have got some probs with ISDN with linux
I'm using the AVM A1-Classic (aka Fritz!) and it is found by the kernel
(2.0.36 orig. DEB-Kernel)
The logging of incoming calls works, so the card seem to work fine. :-)
But connections via ipppd dont work :-(
There are two possibilities what happens (depends on kernel
(2.0.35/2.0.36, version of isdnutils and configuration):
1. Connection is closed ca. 2 seconds after dialing
2. The connection works but I don't get the dynamic IP from my ISP (with
10.0.0.1, I don't get any response...)
I guess a step-by-step-configuration or well-configured example
config-files would help me.
TIA
P. Mauritz
---
Patrick Mauritz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
not just a number

dpkg broken?

[Stefan Baums]

Hi all.

OK, so yesterday, in the process of updating my system to the newest
slink, I broke dpkg. I cannot install packages anymore. The error
messages are as follows:

Preparing to replace modconf 0.2.23 (using modconf_0.2.24.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement modconf ...

gzip: stdout: Broken pipe
dpkg-deb: subprocess gzip -dc returned error exit status 1
dpkg: error processing modconf_0.2.24.deb (--unpack):
 subprocess dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
 cron_3.0pl1-50.deb
 freetype2-dev_1.2-3.deb
 freetype2_1.2-3.deb
 kernel-doc-2.0.36_2.0.36-2.deb
 libg++2.8.2_2.91.60-4.deb
 modconf_0.2.24.deb
E: Sub-process returned an error code
Exit 100

Actually, the problem might be not dpkg as such: to remedy the situation,
I grabbed dpkg and gzip from stable and manually (ar -x ; tar xvzf ; cp -R)
installed them, but that has not changed the situation. Some other
package must have broken dpkg.

Any ideas?
Stefan

RE: xdm

[Brian Morgan]

I can't seem to find any file in /etc/X11 that has a line with "start-xdm"
in it.  X (and hence, xdm) is starting on boot.  Is there a way to change
that?  All I've done to make this happen was install the xdm package.  Also,
is there any way to quit the xserver while using xdm without it
automatically bringing back the xdm login screen (and hence starting X
again)?

Thanks for everyone's help.

Brian

> -Original Message-
> From: Colin Telmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 1999 11:45 AM
> To: Andrew Ivanov
> Cc: Brian Morgan; Debian User Group; recipient list not shown:; ;
> Subject: Re: xdm
>
>
> On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Andrew Ivanov wrote:
>
> > > 1. If I decide I'd rather get rid of xdm, and use startx
> instead, what file
> > > to I need to modify to get to a console login on startup
> rather than the
> > > graphical xdm login?
> >
> > /etc/X11/config file has one/more lines, depending on the
> version you use,
> > that mention xdm. For example,
> > start-xdm
> > If you want to get rid of xdm, comment that line out.
>
> I assume the outcome is the same, but to be consistent with the syntax of
> that file, you don't comment it out - you change "start-xdm" to
> "no-start-xdm". Cheers.
>
> --
> Colin Telmer, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
> 
> 
>
>
> --
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>
>

Re: vfat -> cp: file: Operation not permitted

[Pere Camps]

Tino,

> No, there is probably not. It comes from the fact that cp tries to set
> some permissions on the destination file. That is actually not possible
> for VFAT. 

That's a sensible explanation. 

> (I would prefer VFAT to silently ignore that)

Me too. 

Thanks for your help!

-- p.

Re: DeskJet 870

[Jose Manuel Cerqueira Esteves]

On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Alec Smith wrote:

> I'll have to give it a try later... Thanks.
> 
> People have suggested the 550c filter, but all it seems to do is spit out
> blank pages and partial print jobs when I print from a Winblows system to
> the Linux box using Samba. Someone else sent a modified filter more
> specific to an 870 and it just plain didn't work. And here I was thinking
> that making the 870 work would be just as easy as setting up an old
> DeskJet 520.

Greetings

Here's how I have configured a 870Cxi here, using lprng and magicfilter
under Debian 2.0r3:

1. In my /etc/printcap, I put:

lp|dj870|hpdj870cxi|color|HP Deskjet 870 Cxi @othello
:lp=/dev/lp1
:if=/etc/magicfilter/dj870cxi-filter
:af=/var/log/lpd/hpdj870cxi.acct
:lf=/var/log/lpd/hpdj870cxi.errs
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/hpdj870cxi
:mx#0
:sh

2. Created directory /var/log/lpd and both files under it, with the following
ownerships and permissions:

drwxr-s---   2 lp   lp   /var/log/lpd
-rw-r-   1 lp   lp   /var/log/lpd/hpdj870cxi.acct
-rw-r-   1 lp   lp   /var/log/lpd/hpdj870cxi.errs

3. Ran 
  checkpc -f 
once or twice, thus automatically creating the spool directory and some files
under it.

4. Created /etc/magicfilter/dj870cxi-filter starting from dj550c-filter.
I am using the hpdj driver, which apparently can only print at 300x300 dpi
on this printer (if anyone managed to use it for higher resolutions,
I would be interested in knowing about it).  
You can find detailed information about its options from,
ftp://ftp.pdb.sni.de/pub/utilities/misc/hpdj.html (a PostScript manual
is included).
I have used the hp850 driver before (installing gs-aladdin "manually");
this could printer at higher resolutions, but was also not totally free 
from problems, particularly bad reproduction of colours with low saturation.
Since the version of the gs-aladdin package installed here does not include
the hp850 driver, I decided to continue using hpdj for now.

Here is the start of my /etc/magicfilter/dj870cxi-filter 
(all the remaining lines are equal to those original dj550c-filter);
please note that some lines have been wrapped: each group
of 4 lines starting with a "0" and having "/usr/bin/gs" in it is in fact a 
single line (a single entry) in the filter setup file..
~~~ CUT HERE ~~
#! /usr/sbin/magicfilter
#

# Magic filter setup file for HP DeskJet 870 Cxi color printers with
# both black and CMY cartridges installed
#
# This file has been created starting from the dj550c-filter of magicfilter.
# Version 2.0  
# José Manuel Cerqueira Esteves, 1999-01-20.
#
# This file has been automatically adapted to your system.
#

# PostScript
0   %!  filter  /usr/bin/gs  -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE 
-sDEVICE=hpdj -sModel=unspec -r300x300 -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -sColorMode=CMYK 
-dCompressionMethod=9 -sMediaType=plain -sPrintQuality=presentation 
-sOutputFile=\|"cat 1>&3" - 3>&1 1>&2 
0   \004%!  filter  /usr/bin/gs  -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE 
-sDEVICE=hpdj -sModel=unspec -r300x300 -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -sColorMode=CMYK 
-dCompressionMethod=9 -sMediaType=plain -sPrintQuality=presentation 
-sOutputFile=\|"cat 1>&3" - 3>&1 1>&2 

# PDF
0   %PDFfpipe   /usr/bin/gs  -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE 
-sDEVICE=hpdj -sModel=unspec -r300x300 -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -sColorMode=CMYK 
-dCompressionMethod=9 -sMediaType=plain -sPrintQuality=presentation 
-sOutputFile=\|"cat 1>&3" $FILE 3>&1 1>&2 
~~~ CUT HERE ~~


5. After you do all this you just have to:

 /etc/init.d/lprng stop
 /etc/init.d/lprng start

and try to print something...

By the way, with hpdj it may be convenient to do some gamma correction
(I haven't done it yet, with my current config), adding to each `gs' 
invocation the name of a file containing for instance 

~~~ CUT HERE ~~~
%!
{0.4 exp} dup dup currenttransfer setcolortransfer


or

~~ CUT HERE ~~~
%!
{0.4 exp} settransfer 
~~~

But this you may try later on.
I don't remember what used to be the preferred value of the parameter for 
gamma correction ("0.4", above) among the users here.
I used to keep this in a filed called /etc/dj870cxi_gamma_correction.ps 

I haven't tried Samba with my current setup yet, but did configure it a
few days ago on another machine with an HP LaserJet 6L (also using lprng
and magicfilter) and everything seemed to run smoothly... 
but only after replacing the original HP Windows drivers with a fresh
set downloaded from HP (with Windows, I usually feel the need to 
follow a brute-force approach).

It would be most desirable if printer manufacturers gave some contribution
to help their printers achieve under Linux the same level of quality

Re: debian installation

[Rafael Kitover]

On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 11:15:06PM -0800, rod peters wrote:
> I need some help.  I have been trying to install debian for severl weeks.  
> Today got me the most progress so far.  I had my installation almost running 
> but I think I put in a wrong video or monitor value and my system started 
> blinking every half second.  It was locked up so I rebooted.  Same thing.  
> Now, I have selected the packages for home user(graphics,sound,X yadda 
> yadda), but when I install, I get "too many errors, quitting install"  and as 
> its installing the packages that do get installed,  often it says error files 
> missing.  Do I have a bad CD?  I have been fighting with this for a long 
> time.  I thought I almost had it, then I made a mistake, and now I can't get 
> that far for nothin'.  I have even d'loaded the floppy images from the site 
> to see if they work.  Nope.  Maybe I'm not meant to run Linux.

My suggestion is don't run xf86config for now (when the various packages
as you to). First install everything in dselect (you might have to hit
install a few times). And make sure you have enough disk space, df -k to
check. Once you get stuff installed, you can play with XF86Setup or
xf86config scripts. Remember that if X behaves weirdly you can kill it
with ctrl+alt+backspace. Best of luck!

-- 
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Errors in 2.2.0-pre8

[vaidhy]

Hi All,

I got the kernel pre5 and applied patches till pre9. However, after applying 
pre8, the compilation gave an error in the program fs/autofs/dirhash.c pre9 
does not fix this problem.

The actual error is at the end of dirhash.c and has the following lines..

struct auto_fs..   *ent,*nent;

  for()
 for(ent=..;ent;ent=nent)
   nent = ent->next;


My pre8 patch changed the definition into 
struct auto_fs..  *ent;

However, the pre8 patch had the diff for this program as

  for(ent=...;ent;ent=ent->next)  (second for as a reference line)

So my guess is that the probelm was fixed in one of the ac's, but somehow got 
missed in the patch. 

Did anyone else have the same problem? Can someone who has a local kernel 
mirror check it out ? 

Thanks,
Vaidhy





**
Alike for those who for Today prepare
And those that after a Tomorrow stare;
A Muezzin from Tower of Darkness cries,
"Fools, your reward is nether here nor there".
  - Omar Khayyam 
**

RE: DeskJet 870

[Dan Willard]

  I have a Canon 4200 setup on my linux box and print to it from win98.
The shared printer doesn't have any local filters on it and the win98
box uses the driver for the printer.  Works just fine (and all the
setting , ie color et al).  You might want to try just setting the samba
shared printer with no filters and the win box with the correct driver.
Either that or see if you can convince win to just print with out
formating the text for the printer and let the linux box deal with it.

--Dano

> -Original Message-
> From: Alec Smith [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 1999 12:17 PM
> To:   Jay Barbee
> Subject:  Re: DeskJet 870
> 
> I'll have to give it a try later... Thanks.
> 
> People have suggested the 550c filter, but all it seems to do is spit
> out
> blank pages and partial print jobs when I print from a Winblows system
> to
> the Linux box using Samba. Someone else sent a modified filter more
> specific to an 870 and it just plain didn't work. And here I was
> thinking
> that making the 870 work would be just as easy as setting up an old
> DeskJet 520.
> 
> 
> Alec
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Jay Barbee wrote:
> 
> > At 1/21/99 04:21 PM -0500, Alec Smith wrote:
> > >Could anyone tell me how to make my DeskJet 870 operate under
> Debian? For
> > >example, a filter for Magicfilter or whichever.
> > >
> > 
> > My Djet 870Cxi is on a NT system that Debian still accesses via LPR.
> But I
> > did at one point have it hooked up and shared from Debian.  Here is
> how it
> > looked in my printcap:
> > 
> >  dj|djet870|HP Deskjet 870:\
> > :lp=/dev/lp1:sd=/var/spool/lpd/djet870:\
> > :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\
> > :if=/etc/magicfilter/dj500c-filter:\
> > :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:
> > 
> > I will say that I did have problem with the magicfilter program.
> The
> > actual 550c driver that it installed filter would not execute.  I
> don't
> > know if that was a bug or not, I got a new copy of that filter
> (older
> > version maybe) and put it in its place, and I have never had a
> problem.
> > 
> > I will attach the driver I use (4.73k).
> > 
> > Other than that, you need to have the queue created in
> /var/spool/lpd:
> > drwxrwxr-x   2 lp   lp   1024 Dec 16 09:36 djet870/
> > ..you can use a 'cp -a lp djet870' in the /var/spool/lpd directory,
> and
> > that should handle it for you.  
> > 
> > I know all of this sounds manual, but if the magicfilter install was
> a bit
> > much, this could be an easier route for you.
> > 
> > Hope it helps
> > --Jay
> 
> 
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RE: lilo.conf~ syntax question??

[Dan Willard]

 Also don't forget that win98 writes its own stuff to the MBR during the
install process and will take out lilo.

--Dano

> -Original Message-
> From: Andrew Ivanov [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 1999 12:04 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: lilo.conf~ syntax question??
> 
> > olleh<
> > i am trying to configure Lilo to give me a choice between booting
> NT,win98,
> > and Linux...first, how do i determine what partition the MS O.S.'s
> (i.e.
> > hda2,3, etc...) reside on...once i have determined where they dwell,
> should i
> > use the following syntax in lilo.conf to give me the choice between
> O.S.'s?
> 
> If you want to make a choice between WinNT/98, why do you boot into
> dos in
> the example below?
> But yes, the syntax is correct.
> Just make sure you include all the 
> boot=/dev/hdXX
> root=/dev/hdXX
> messages that come right in the beginning of lilo.conf
> 
> And to see where your partitions are, either break out the
> windows startup disk and do
> fdisk c: or fdisk d: or whatever
> Or do it in linux 
> fdisk /dev/hda
> fdisk /dev/hdb etc.
> or 
> cfdisk /dev/hda
> And so on.
> 
> Andrew
> 
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> 
> 
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Re: xdm

[Noah L. Meyerhans]

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> the
>  sanme results.
> 
> It will, however you'll be starting the manager mentioned in window-manager AS
> WELL AS the one you mention in your Xsession file.
> 
> Not a problem, just FYI.

That should not be the case.  The global Xsession script checks to see if
a ~/.xsession exists, and if so, it runs it instead of running the WM from
/etc/X11/window-managers.

noah

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Re: xdm

[Colin Telmer]

On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Andrew Ivanov wrote:

> > 1. If I decide I'd rather get rid of xdm, and use startx instead, what file
> > to I need to modify to get to a console login on startup rather than the
> > graphical xdm login?
> 
> /etc/X11/config file has one/more lines, depending on the version you use,
> that mention xdm. For example, 
> start-xdm
> If you want to get rid of xdm, comment that line out.

I assume the outcome is the same, but to be consistent with the syntax of
that file, you don't comment it out - you change "start-xdm" to
"no-start-xdm". Cheers.

--
Colin Telmer, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

Re: xdm

[MallarJ]

In a message dated 1/22/99 12:24:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< > /etc/X11/windows-managers holds a path to window manager that gets
started
 > at the startup. I also modified the Xsession file in there, at the very
 > end, where it executed twm in some cases.
 
 I believe if you link .Xsession to .xinitrc in your home directory you get
the
 sanme results.
  >>

It will, however you'll be starting the manager mentioned in window-manager AS
WELL AS the one you mention in your Xsession file.

Not a problem, just FYI.

Re: Applying kernel patches

[Ben Collins]

On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 10:34:26AM -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote:
> I have the source for 2.2.0-pre2 and all the patches up to pre9.  When I
> try to apply these patches with patch-kernel, I just get the result
>
> Current kernel version is 2.2.0
> 
> I assume this is because the patch-kernel script won't handle the 'preX'
> suffix.  It there a patch anywhere for the patch script?

Try this:

cd /usr/src
zcat patch-2.2.0-pre3.gz | patch -p0
(or)
cat patch-2.2.0-pre3 | patch -p0
(do this for each pre patch, starting from the lowest number)

Afterwards you will have a fully patched up pre9 source :)

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Applying kernel patches

[Bob Nielsen]

I have the source for 2.2.0-pre2 and all the patches up to pre9.  When I
try to apply these patches with patch-kernel, I just get the result

Current kernel version is 2.2.0

I assume this is because the patch-kernel script won't handle the 'preX'
suffix.  It there a patch anywhere for the patch script?

Bob


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Re: lilo.conf~ syntax question??

[Andrew Ivanov]

> olleh<
> i am trying to configure Lilo to give me a choice between booting NT,win98,
> and Linux...first, how do i determine what partition the MS O.S.'s (i.e.
> hda2,3, etc...) reside on...once i have determined where they dwell, should i
> use the following syntax in lilo.conf to give me the choice between O.S.'s?

If you want to make a choice between WinNT/98, why do you boot into dos in
the example below?
But yes, the syntax is correct.
Just make sure you include all the 
boot=/dev/hdXX
root=/dev/hdXX
messages that come right in the beginning of lilo.conf

And to see where your partitions are, either break out the
windows startup disk and do
fdisk c: or fdisk d: or whatever
Or do it in linux 
fdisk /dev/hda
fdisk /dev/hdb etc.
or 
cfdisk /dev/hda
And so on.

Andrew

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Re: xdm

[Shaleh]

> 
> /etc/X11/windows-managers holds a path to window manager that gets started
> at the startup. I also modified the Xsession file in there, at the very
> end, where it executed twm in some cases.

I believe if you link .Xsession to .xinitrc in your home directory you get the
sanme results.

Re: DeskJet 870

[Alec Smith]

I'll have to give it a try later... Thanks.

People have suggested the 550c filter, but all it seems to do is spit out
blank pages and partial print jobs when I print from a Winblows system to
the Linux box using Samba. Someone else sent a modified filter more
specific to an 870 and it just plain didn't work. And here I was thinking
that making the 870 work would be just as easy as setting up an old
DeskJet 520.


Alec



On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Jay Barbee wrote:

> At 1/21/99 04:21 PM -0500, Alec Smith wrote:
> >Could anyone tell me how to make my DeskJet 870 operate under Debian? For
> >example, a filter for Magicfilter or whichever.
> >
> 
> My Djet 870Cxi is on a NT system that Debian still accesses via LPR.  But I
> did at one point have it hooked up and shared from Debian.  Here is how it
> looked in my printcap:
> 
>  dj|djet870|HP Deskjet 870:\
> :lp=/dev/lp1:sd=/var/spool/lpd/djet870:\
> :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\
> :if=/etc/magicfilter/dj500c-filter:\
> :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:
> 
> I will say that I did have problem with the magicfilter program.  The
> actual 550c driver that it installed filter would not execute.  I don't
> know if that was a bug or not, I got a new copy of that filter (older
> version maybe) and put it in its place, and I have never had a problem.
> 
> I will attach the driver I use (4.73k).
> 
> Other than that, you need to have the queue created in /var/spool/lpd:
> drwxrwxr-x   2 lp   lp   1024 Dec 16 09:36 djet870/
> ..you can use a 'cp -a lp djet870' in the /var/spool/lpd directory, and
> that should handle it for you.  
> 
> I know all of this sounds manual, but if the magicfilter install was a bit
> much, this could be an easier route for you.
> 
> Hope it helps
> --Jay

RE: xdm

[Shaleh]

On 22-Jan-99 Brian Morgan wrote:
> Thanks to all who have helped me get X up and running.  I'm using xdm to
> start my X sessions (not sure if I'll keep it).   A few more questions:
> 
> 1. If I decide I'd rather get rid of xdm, and use startx instead, what file
> to I need to modify to get to a console login on startup rather than the
> graphical xdm login?

In /etc/X11 is all the X config.  One of the files in there contains
"start-xdm", it may /etc/X11/Xservers, I forget.
> 
> 2.  If I do decide to keep xdm, what file do I modify to change my default
> windows manager (similar to the .xinitrc file when using startx).

On a per user basis, there is a file in ~ to edit, again I forget the name.  I
think you can actually make a link .xinitrc ->  and xdm will read it.  Try
looking in the xdm docs (or man page).

> 
> .3  Does xdm put any limitations on using gnome if I decide to use that in
> the future?

Once you have per user config, you can start whatever you want, even GNOME.

Re: xdm

[MallarJ]

In a message dated 1/22/99 12:11:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

<< >1. If I decide I'd rather get rid of xdm, and use startx instead, what
file
 > to I need to modify to get to a console login on startup rather than the
 > graphical xdm login?
 
 You should already have both - starting xdm doesn't prevent the console login
 from starting, it just switches your display window.  To get to your console
 login, hit CTL-ALT-F1 (F1 thru F6, actually).  To switch back to your X
 session, hit CTL-ALT-F6.
  >>

Oh, one more thing... if you decide NOT to start xdm anymore, change your
/etc/X11/config file and comment out the start-xdm line.

Jay

Re: dualboot linux and NT?

[Frederick Page]

Hi Jean,

you wrote on: 20 Jan 99 at 13:14 (received 21.01.99)
about   : _Re: dualboot linux and NT?_

>> That's exactly the problem, you need to have a FAT16-partition within the
>> first 1024 cylinders of the first harddrive. The so-called C: (speaking in
>> DOS-/Win-terms).
>
>This is clearly not true.  I have a dual boot configuration on my Dell
>Inspiron with one IDE harddrive configured as follows:
>
>  MBR   lilo


I'm sorry, I did not make myself clear enough: what I meant is, if you  
have the NT-Bootmanager on the MBR of your hd, it needs the NTLDR,  
NTDETECT.COM and BOOT.INI on the first Fat16-partition. I have the  
following configuration (three SCSI-hds, each 2 GB):

MBR: NT-Bootmanager

sda1 Win 95 (fat 16) 1 GB
sda2 Win NT 4.0, SP3 (NTFS) 1 GB
sdb1 Linux (ext2) 1.9 GB
sbd5 Linux swap 0.1 GB
sdc1 Data (fat 16) 2 GB

And I boot LILO with the NT-Bootmanager, also works fine.

>  partition-1   Windows-NT, 4.0-service pack 4, NTFS
>  partition-2   FAT32, pagefile.sys, only used for virtual memory

How does that work? I was always under the impression, that Fat32 was not  
supported by NT 4.0.

Kind regardsFrederick

Re: xdm

[Andrew Ivanov]

> 1. If I decide I'd rather get rid of xdm, and use startx instead, what file
> to I need to modify to get to a console login on startup rather than the
> graphical xdm login?

/etc/X11/config file has one/more lines, depending on the version you use,
that mention xdm. For example, 
start-xdm
If you want to get rid of xdm, comment that line out.

> 
> 2.  If I do decide to keep xdm, what file do I modify to change my default
> windows manager (similar to the .xinitrc file when using startx).

/etc/X11/windows-managers holds a path to window manager that gets started
at the startup. I also modified the Xsession file in there, at the very
end, where it executed twm in some cases.


Andrew

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Re: xdm

[MallarJ]

In a message dated 1/22/99 12:05:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>1. If I decide I'd rather get rid of xdm, and use startx instead, what file
> to I need to modify to get to a console login on startup rather than the
> graphical xdm login?

You should already have both - starting xdm doesn't prevent the console login
from starting, it just switches your display window.  To get to your console
login, hit CTL-ALT-F1 (F1 thru F6, actually).  To switch back to your X
session, hit CTL-ALT-F6.
 
> 2.  If I do decide to keep xdm, what file do I modify to change my default
> windows manager (similar to the .xinitrc file when using startx).

/etc/X11/window-managers
 
> .3  Does xdm put any limitations on using gnome if I decide to use that in
> the future?

I can't imagine it would, but I don't use GNOME.  However I do use KDE and
have no problems with that environment.  Also, I can use either xdm or kdm
with KDE for my logins.

-Jay

Re: DeskJet 870

[Jay Barbee]

At 1/21/99 04:21 PM -0500, Alec Smith wrote:
>Could anyone tell me how to make my DeskJet 870 operate under Debian? For
>example, a filter for Magicfilter or whichever.
>

My Djet 870Cxi is on a NT system that Debian still accesses via LPR.  But I
did at one point have it hooked up and shared from Debian.  Here is how it
looked in my printcap:

 dj|djet870|HP Deskjet 870:\
:lp=/dev/lp1:sd=/var/spool/lpd/djet870:\
:sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\
:if=/etc/magicfilter/dj500c-filter:\
:af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:

I will say that I did have problem with the magicfilter program.  The
actual 550c driver that it installed filter would not execute.  I don't
know if that was a bug or not, I got a new copy of that filter (older
version maybe) and put it in its place, and I have never had a problem.

I will attach the driver I use (4.73k).

Other than that, you need to have the queue created in /var/spool/lpd:
drwxrwxr-x   2 lp   lp   1024 Dec 16 09:36 djet870/
..you can use a 'cp -a lp djet870' in the /var/spool/lpd directory, and
that should handle it for you.  

I know all of this sounds manual, but if the magicfilter install was a bit
much, this could be an easier route for you.

Hope it helps
--Jay#! /usr/sbin/magicfilter
#
# Magic filter setup file for HP DeskJet 500 series color printers with
# only CMY cartridge installed
#
# This file has been automatically adapted to your system.
#

# PostScript
0   %!  filter  /usr/bin/gs  -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -r300 
-sDEVICE=cdj500 -sOutputFile=\|"cat 1>&3" - 3>&1 1>&2 
0   \004%!  filter  /usr/bin/gs  -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -r300 
-sDEVICE=cdj500 -sOutputFile=\|"cat 1>&3" - 3>&1 1>&2 

# PDF
0   %PDFfpipe   /usr/bin/gs  -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -r300 
-sDEVICE=cdj500 -sOutputFile=\|"cat 1>&3" $FILE 3>&1 1>&2 


# TeX DVI
0   \367\002fpipe   /usr/bin/dvips  -D 300  -R -q -f 

# compress'd data
0   \037\235pipe/bin/gzip  -cdq 

# packed, gzipped, frozen and SCO LZH data
0   \037\036pipe/bin/gzip  -cdq 
0   \037\213pipe/bin/gzip  -cdq 
0   \037\236pipe/bin/gzip  -cdq 
0   \037\240pipe/bin/gzip  -cdq 

# troff documents
0   .\?\?\040   fpipe   `/usr/bin/grog  -Tps $FILE` 
0   .\\\"   fpipe   `/usr/bin/grog  -Tps $FILE` 
0   '\\\"   fpipe   `/usr/bin/grog  -Tps $FILE` 
0   '.\\\"  fpipe   `/usr/bin/grog  -Tps $FILE` 
0   \\\"fpipe   `/usr/bin/grog  -Tps $FILE` 

# ditroff
0   "x T ps"pipe/usr/bin/grops 
0   "x T dvi"   pipe/usr/bin/grodvi 
0   "x T ascii" pipe/usr/bin/grotty 
0   "x T latin1"pipe/usr/bin/grotty 
0   "x T lj4"   reject  Cannot print LaserJet 4 ditroff files.

# Portable bit-, grey- and pixmaps
0   P1\npipe/usr/bin/pnmtops  -scale 1000 -dpi 300  
2>/dev/null 
0   P2\npipe/usr/bin/pnmtops  -scale 1000 -dpi 300  
2>/dev/null 
0   P3\npipe/usr/bin/pnmtops  -scale 1000 -dpi 300  
2>/dev/null 
0   P4\npipe/usr/bin/pnmtops  -scale 1000 -dpi 300  
2>/dev/null 
0   P5\npipe/usr/bin/pnmtops  -scale 1000 -dpi 300  
2>/dev/null 
0   P6\npipe/usr/bin/pnmtops  -scale 1000 -dpi 300  
2>/dev/null 

# HP Printer Control Language (PCL) -- assume start with reset code
0   \033E\033   cat 

# HP Printer Job Language (PJL)
0   \033%-12345Xreject  Cannot print PJL files on this printer. 
0   "@PJL " reject  Cannot print PJL files on this printer. 
0   @PJL\t  reject  Cannot print PJL files on this printer. 
0   @PJL\r  reject  Cannot print PJL files on this printer. 
0   @PJL\n  reject  Cannot print PJL files on this printer. 

# GIF files
0   GIF87a  pipe/usr/bin/giftopnm  2>/dev/null
0   GIF89a  pipe/usr/bin/giftopnm  2>/dev/null

# JFIF (JPEG) files
0   \377\330\377\340\?\?JFIF\0  pipe/usr/bin/djpeg  -pnm

# TIFF files (the last two bytes of the "magic" is really a version number;
# but the magic is really lame and as far as I have understood the version
# number has never changed and never will, so we include it.)
0   MM\0\x2afpipe   /usr/bin/tiff2ps  $FILE
0   II\x2a\0fpipe   /usr/bin/tiff2ps  $FILE 

# BMP files (even lousier magic -- Microsoft strikes again!)
0   BM\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\x0c  pipe\
/usr/bin/bmptoppm  2>/dev/null
0   BM\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\x40  pipe\
/usr/bin/bmptoppm  2>/dev/null
0   BM\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\?\x28  pipe\
/usr/bin/bmptoppm  2>/dev/null

# Garbage delivered from Windows via Samba
# (donated by Andree Leidenfrost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
# 300 \033\052\157cat
# later changed to 
# (Bug report #22866: magicfilter: Incorrect magic for Win95/S

xdm

[Brian Morgan]

Thanks to all who have helped me get X up and running.  I'm using xdm to
start my X sessions (not sure if I'll keep it).   A few more questions:

1. If I decide I'd rather get rid of xdm, and use startx instead, what file
to I need to modify to get to a console login on startup rather than the
graphical xdm login?

2.  If I do decide to keep xdm, what file do I modify to change my default
windows manager (similar to the .xinitrc file when using startx).

.3  Does xdm put any limitations on using gnome if I decide to use that in
the future?

Thanks,

Brian Morgan

Re: vfat -> cp: file: Operation not permitted

[Tino Schwarze]

Hi there,
>   I've mounted a vfat partition with these options:
> 
>   /dev/hda2  /mnt/dos   vfatdefaults,gid=101,umask=0007  
> 
>   and whenever a user in the 101 group tries a copy a file within
> the filesystem it gets the following error:
> 
>   cp: file: Operation not permitted
> 
>   Altough the file actually gets copied.
> 
>   Is there any way to avoid this message?
No, there is probably not. It comes from the fact that cp tries to set
some permissions on the destination file. That is actually not possible
for VFAT. (I would prefer VFAT to silently ignore that)

Bye, Tino.

Re: ..de.debian.org

[Remco van de Meent]

Thomas Adams wrote:
> What's up with the ...de.debian.org servers? A DNS problem perhaps?

No, there is no DNS problem, but apparently their uplink is broken at the
moment. Please try other mirrors for the time being.


bye,
 -Remco

..de.debian.org

[Thomas Adams]

What's up with the ...de.debian.org servers? A DNS problem perhaps?

Re: libgmodule-1.1.so.3: cannot open shared object file:

[Mitch Blevins]

In foo.debian-user, you wrote:
> 
> What should I do to avoid the following error?
> 
> Chris
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ gtop
> gtop: error in loading shared libraries
> libgmodule-1.1.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ dpkg --status gtop
> Package: gtop
> Status: install ok installed
> Priority: optional
> Section: admin
> Installed-Size: 176
> Maintainer: Ian Lynagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Version: 0.28.1-5
> Depends: gdk-imlib1, libc6 (>= 2.0.7u), libglib1.1 (>= 1.1.3-2), libgnome0 
> (>= 0.30.1-2), libgtk1.1 (>= 1:1.1.2-2), libgtop1 (>= 0.26.2-4), libjpeg62, 
> libjpegg6a, libpng2, libtiff3g, libungif3g (>= 3.0-2) | giflib3g (>= 
> 3.0-5.2), xlib6g (>= 3.3-5), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.3)
> Description: Graphical TOP variant
>  The graphical version of top provides an easy interface to process
>  control on a GNU/Linux system.

You can try upgrading or reinstalling libglib1.1
(note: this may require other upgrades... gtk, etc)

-Mitch

vfat -> cp: file: Operation not permitted

[Pere Camps]

Hi!

I've mounted a vfat partition with these options:

/dev/hda2  /mnt/dos   vfatdefaults,gid=101,umask=0007  

and whenever a user in the 101 group tries a copy a file within
the filesystem it gets the following error:

cp: file: Operation not permitted

Altough the file actually gets copied.

Is there any way to avoid this message?

TIA!

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libgmodule-1.1.so.3: cannot open shared object file:

[Christophe Broult]

What should I do to avoid the following error?

Chris

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ gtop
gtop: error in loading shared libraries
libgmodule-1.1.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ dpkg --status gtop
Package: gtop
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: admin
Installed-Size: 176
Maintainer: Ian Lynagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Version: 0.28.1-5
Depends: gdk-imlib1, libc6 (>= 2.0.7u), libglib1.1 (>= 1.1.3-2), libgnome0 (>= 
0.30.1-2), libgtk1.1 (>= 1:1.1.2-2), libgtop1 (>= 0.26.2-4), libjpeg62, 
libjpegg6a, libpng2, libtiff3g, libungif3g (>= 3.0-2) | giflib3g (>= 3.0-5.2), 
xlib6g (>= 3.3-5), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.3)
Description: Graphical TOP variant
 The graphical version of top provides an easy interface to process
 control on a GNU/Linux system.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ 

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floppy disk multitasking problems

[Sasha Gutfraind]

Hello fellow users!

I've a rather general technical question.
Floppy drives have been around for who knows how much
time. But even more, it seems that they originated
not from multitasking OSs like UN*X and Linux, but
from Macs and PCs running DOS.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that whenever I
mount a floppy, the whole Linux multitsking stops. It
is as though the mounting of a floppy is an
uninteruptable process. Maybe HDDs are relatively
fast, but I never notice such problems when mounting
them.
What is the reason for the delay in the system when
floppies are mounted? why it doesn't effect HDDs,
they are also physical drives? Buffer problems?

TIA.
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Re: Mount cd

[frleg]

>> Henrik Hundebøl wrote:
>> > How do i mount cd and floppy in debian
>> > and how do i get my internet to work

If you have got IDE cdrom you have to do : 
mount /dev/hdx /cdrom

where
  x=a primary IDE master
  x=b primary IDE slave
  x=c secondary IDE master
  x=d secondary IDE slave
(the /cdrom directory have to exist)

To mount floppy just do nearly the same :

mount /dev/fd0 /floppy

If you have gor scsi cdrom, the device is different.

Franck


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gnome

[Lawrence Walton]

I have been meaning to ask this for a while; I have installed what I
believe are all the most recent gnome libs and apps from potato.

The apps that I would like to use the most are gnomecard and balsa
both range from moderately broken to just broken. I got the cvs versions
of both and tried to compile them, they both stop when they look for
gnome.h what package has it?

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Re: lilo config

[Michael E. Touloumtzis]

On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 12:51:30PM +0100, Thomas MANGIN wrote:
> As far as I noticed I didn t see any to to config lilo with a windows
> partition. I done it by hand few month ago but I needed and initrd file
> If I am right. On my actual installation which is lighter I don t get it
> any more. What can i do !! 

Thomas,

I'm not sure what you are asking.  Maybe you are just asking simply for an
example of lilo.conf that boots Linux or Windows?  If so, this may help.
If not, this dialog may at least clear up what you need.

boot=/dev/hda3
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
delay=50
image=/vmlinuz
label=Linux
root=/dev/hda3
read-only
other=/dev/hda1
label=Win95

Regards, MikeT

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[kirk@braille.uwo.ca: question on keyboard menu choice.] (fwd)

[Paul McDermott]

hello my debian friends, can somebody on this list help me and/or us.
Paul


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Kirk Reiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: question on keyboard menu choice.]

--- Start of forwarded message ---
From: Kirk Reiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-boot@lists.debian.org
Subject: question on keyboard menu choice.

Dear Sir:  I was hoping you might be able to answer a question or two,
and help me solve a problem I am having building a special boot disk
set.

We have written a set of kernel drivers to provide speech output on
the console.  As part of these patches we build special keymaps to
build into the kernel or load with loadkeys.  We have started making a
set of debian distribution disks with our modified kernel on them.  We
have no problem until we get to the select keyboarde choice in the
installation menu.  If we select u.s. our keyboard review functions
are overwritten.

What we have done is dump a binary keymap file and named it us.bmap to
try to get around the problem.  I assumed that the us.bmap file was
unpacked and loaded once a person selected us keymap at the menu
choice.  Unfortunately, it just appears to clear the keymap and not
actually load the keymap.  At least I don't think so because the
keymaps.tgz file is still intact after that point and there does not
seem to be any sign of the keymaps being unpacked.

If we try to by pass the menu choice, things go fine until we get down
to installing the base system.  We get an unable to find kbdconf, I
believe at the time zone prompt.  The system seems to just go back to
the menu at that point.

If you could clear up exactly what goes on at the keyboard choice,
that would be very useful.  I have looked through as much
documentation as I have found so far, and have not been able to find a
discussion of the actual installation process.  That is not to say one
doesn't exist, I just ain't found it yet.

Anyway, any help you could give me would certainly be appreciated.
  Kirk
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Re: Gnome

[Will Lowe]

On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Patrick Colbeck wrote:

> I want to install Gnome on Slink but don't want to scatter new versions of
> the libraries (eg gtk) arround anywhere. Does anyone know if you can compile
> it like KDE where it looks for all libraries relative to a partciular
> install path (eg /usr/local/gnome) so the apps that come with Slink can
> continue using the old libraries. Also this would be usefull for cleanup if
> when the next release is out (rm -Rf /usr/local/gnome).

Gnome uses GNU configure,  I think.  So when you untar a package,  one of
the first things the installation will tellyou to do is "run ./configure"
-- you can just run "./configure --prefix==/usr/local/gnome" to make
everything end up in /usr/local/gnome.

Will


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Debian on a ThinkPad 380Z

[Matthew Tebbens]

Has anyone installed Linux on a ThinkPad 380z ?
Any problems, suggestions...?

Matthew

lilo.conf~ syntax question??

[FUNKLORDZ]

olleh<
i am trying to configure Lilo to give me a choice between booting NT,win98,
and Linux...first, how do i determine what partition the MS O.S.'s (i.e.
hda2,3, etc...) reside on...once i have determined where they dwell, should i
use the following syntax in lilo.conf to give me the choice between O.S.'s?
other = /dev/hda4   # your dos partition, if any
  table = /dev/hda  # the current partition table
  label = dos   # or any non-fancy name
If this syntax is correct...i guess i only need to know how to determine where
nt and 98 are...thanks in advanced
ramon 

Re: Gnome

[Tino Schwarze]

Hi Pat,
> I want to install Gnome on Slink but don't want to scatter new versions of
> the libraries (eg gtk) arround anywhere. Does anyone know if you can compile
> it like KDE where it looks for all libraries relative to a partciular
> install path (eg /usr/local/gnome) so the apps that come with Slink can
> continue using the old libraries. Also this would be usefull for cleanup if
> when the next release is out (rm -Rf /usr/local/gnome).
Just run every configure script with option --prefix=/opt/gnome or 
whatever. Some tweaking in /etc/ld.so.conf and /etc/profile might be
neccessary then.

Bye, Tino.

Gnome

[Patrick Colbeck]

Hi people

I want to install Gnome on Slink but don't want to scatter new versions of
the libraries (eg gtk) arround anywhere. Does anyone know if you can compile
it like KDE where it looks for all libraries relative to a partciular
install path (eg /usr/local/gnome) so the apps that come with Slink can
continue using the old libraries. Also this would be usefull for cleanup if
when the next release is out (rm -Rf /usr/local/gnome).

Thanks

Pat

Re: what cd-writer ?

[Lawrence Walton]

I hate to disagree but... the symbios cards are great and they are
generaly cheaper, faster and less trouble.

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On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Daniel J. Brosemer wrote:

> > On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 04:57:08PM -0500, Odin wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > Can you recommend an inexpensive PCI SCSI card to go with a Yamaha? Right
> > now, I have two ATAPI hard drives and an ATAPI DVD drive connected to a
> > motherboard IDE controller. I was planning on purchasing a HP ATAPI
> > drive, but after hearing about several bad experiences with ATAPI
> > drives, I'm interested in a SCSI-based external one. 
> 
> Well, I can't in good conscience reccommend anything but an adaptec.  I've
> heard (but not experienced) that a zip-plus will erase data on a scsi hdd
> when not connected to an adaptec.  There are other reasons, though, like
> support, speed, _very_ nice bios, etc.  You'll pay for the niceness, but
> in my opinion, well worth it.  If you're planning on just using your CD-R
> on your SCSI chain, then you don't need Ultra Wide or even SCSI-3, just
> get yourself a good SCSI-2 (you don't even need that, but room to expand
> is good, and good luck finding a Narrow SCSI-1 anymore.)  If you're not
> buying for a corporation, my suggestion would be to watch the online
> auctions, sometimes they have adaptec cards.
> 
> -Dan
> 
> 
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Re: lilo config

[Andrew Ivanov]

> As far as I noticed I didn t see any to to config lilo with a windows
> partition. I done it by hand few month ago but I needed and initrd file
> If I am right. On my actual installation which is lighter I don t get it
> any more. What can i do !!
> 
> Thomas

Say again? It's kind of hard to understand what you tried to say here.
You don't have to do anything with initrd, just write lilo.conf and run
lilo.

Andrew




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Re: Mount cd

[Martin Schulze]

Henrik Hundebøl wrote:
> How do i mount cd and floppy in debian
> and how do i get my internet to work

Please ask on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Debian goes big business?

[Ben Pfaff]

Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

   On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 06:12:14PM -0500, Ben Pfaff wrote:
   > They should have `a word to say', and they do--they can subscribe to
   > Debian lists and give their feedback and advice, which developers are
   > free to follow or ignore.  But they do not, and should not, IMO, have
   > the privilege of voting or otherwise setting policy.  Users are not
   > developers and shouldn't presume to be.

   i mostly agree but wouldn't put it anywhere near that strongly.

   users are not developers, but they might be one day. one of the good
   things about debian is that users who are willing to put in some work
   CAN join up as developers.

I guess that that's the corollary to what I'm saying.  If users want
to have a stronger in say in whether their advice is followed, they
should be become developers.  It's not that hard, and doesn't take
that long.
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 as meaning someone who's only ever written one device driver."
--Daniel Pead

Re: debian installation

[Kent West]

rod peters wrote:

>  I need some help.  I have been trying to install debian for
> severl weeks.  Today got me the most progress so far.  I had my
> installation almost running but I think I put in a wrong video
> or monitor value and my system started blinking every half
> second.  It was locked up so I rebooted.  Same thing.  Now, I
> have selected the packages for home user(graphics,sound,X yadda
> yadda), but when I install, I get "too many errors, quitting
> install"  and as its installing the packages that do get
> installed,  often it says error files missing.  Do I have a bad
> CD?  I have been fighting with this for a long time.  I thought
> I almost had it, then I made a mistake, and now I can't get
> that far for nothin'.  I have even d'loaded the floppy images
> from the site to see if they work.  Nope.  Maybe I'm not meant
> to run Linux.

It sounds like you've gotten through the base install okay. After
partitioning your drive and selecting device drivers and
configuring your keyboard and installing the base system, you
rebooted and then were given the option to choose a type of
system ("home user (graphics, sound, X, yadda yadda)"). This
indicates that the basic Linux system is there (and when I say
basic, I mean just barely functional; no man pages nor 'nuthin').

This is good.

Now the post-installer script has chosen a number of packages for
you that are suitable for home use and has copied them from the
CD to a directory on your system as .deb files. Then the script
calls dpkg/dselect (the Debian installer/maintenance program) to
install those .deb packages. Probably most of the packages have
been successfully installed.

If you as root run dselect and choose the Install and/or
Configure options, dselect will again try to install/configure
the packages that haven't been successfully installed.

When it dies due to too many errors (or for whatever reason), it
should give you a list of the things it couldn't install. Most
likely it's the X Window system/XF86Configure file that is one of
the problem packages.

Let us know that list says, and we'll have a little bit better
idea of where to go from there. Or, of my assumptions are all
wrong, let us know better where you're at in the installation
process.

Re: Debian goes big business? [was: Re: Suggestion for RedHat (was: RH vs Debian)]

[Jernej Zajc]

I wrote:
> 
> [...]
> > Only if we let it. We're not animals. We're human. We can control
> > ourselves. Just because it rarely happens doesn't mean it can't happen.
> 
> It can happen, of course, it's just that it's different. Such a
> situation most likely deteriorates into "soem are more equal than
> others", as known from Aldous Huxley.
 ^
Actually George Orwell. Sorry. But both are phantastic :-)

> I do think it possible, mind you, but I also think it would pose
> some problems that otherwise would never arise.
> 
> But then, with the right attitude anything is possible.
> 
> [...]

AWE32_SYNTH

[Peter Berlau]

Hi,
Im upgrade my Debian/GNU 2.1 (slink) to kernel 2.0.36-2,
unfortuanelety I lost sound-support
for my SaoundBlaster AWE 64 (plug and pray) ISA-Slot-Card, 
however.
I could restore the awe-drv and rerun the install.sh script

Sound Driver:3.5.4-960630 (Thu Jan 21 16:31:02 CET 1999 root,
Linux pmurmel 2.0.36 #1 Thu Jan 21 16:14:29 CET 1999 i586 unknown)
Kernel: Linux pmurmel 2.0.36 #1 Thu Jan 21 16:31:20 CET 1999 i586
Config options: 0

Installed drivers: 
Type 1: OPL-2/OPL-3 FM
Type 2: Sound Blaster
Type 7: SB MPU-401

Card config: 
Sound Blaster at 0x220 irq 9 drq 3,7
SB MPU-401 at 0x330 irq 9
OPL-2/OPL-3 FM at 0x388 drq 0

Audio devices:
0: Sound Blaster 16 (4.16)

Synth devices:
0: Yamaha OPL-3

Midi devices:
0: Sound Blaster 16

Timers:
0: System clock

Mixers:
0: Sound Blaster

therefore it looks ok, 
if system comes up 
isapnp initializes the wavetables, gameport, etc ok-status

but one problem stays
in the kernelconfiguration I never see a:
Config for AD_LIB
Config for AWE32_SYNTH,
so I have no 
awe specific midi-output

what do I wrong, please help

thanks a lot
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Re: jdk1.1 java and Swing (JFC1.1)

[Michael and Diana Finney]

I tried the SwingSet and another example.  I could not do the windows look and 
feel.  The
windows.tar file is there, but it did not work.  It said that look and feel is 
not supported.
Ever have that happen?  What's the solution?
Thanks,
Michael

Re: slink vs. staroffice 5.0

[Peter Berlau]

On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 12:05:35AM -0800, Ben Messinger wrote:
Hi Ben,
saw Your message "false alarm" 
sorry,

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Re: slink vs. staroffice 5.0

[Peter Berlau]

On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 07:50:49PM -0800, Ben Messinger wrote:
> I had staroffice 5.0 working under hamm, but it broke when I updated to
> slink. I am assuming due to differences in libc.so.6 between hamm and
> slink. Is this right? Is there a way to keep slink and still get
> staroffice working again? Everything else I use is working fine.
I'm using Debian/GNU Linux 2.1 slink - system with some 
potato: wmaker, libwraster1
because the wmaker from slink breaks during installation the
wmaker from potato not, however, ??
last update made on 22.01.1999
soffice 5.0 still works, very slow I think but works 
I have had some problems using it under wmaker, but I think
that was on a Debian/GNU 2.0 (hamm), can't remember correctly.
eventually You should try icewm, I'm using so5 with no problems
under icewm(my favorite)
maybe You must update some packages, or
did You use the libc6 which come with the staroffice-package
if so try using the "normally" libc6, which is
+++-===-==-
ii  libc6   2.0.7.19981211 GNU Libc: shared libraries
ii  libc6-dbg   2.0.7.19981211 GNU Libc: Debugging and Profiling libraries.
ii  libc6-dev   2.0.7.19981211 GNU Libc: Development libraries and header f
ii  libc6-pic   2.0.7.19981211 GNU Libc: PIC archive library

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part 2 of what is /dev/rvndiptcomsk

[Patrick]

Ok sorry guys, 
i think i've found just after sending the email...

i forgot to tell you i installed iptraf also and /dev/rvndiptcomsk seems
to be used by rvnamed which is used by iptraf to do reverse DNS lookup without
blocking

if that was written somewhere in the documentation of iptraf

sorry

Patrick

lilo config

[Thomas MANGIN]

As far as I noticed I didn t see any to to config lilo with a windows partition.
I done it by hand few month ago but I needed and initrd file If I am right.
On my actual installation which is lighter I don t get it any more. What
can i do !!
Thomas
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what is /dev/rvndiptcomsk

[Patrick]

Hi,

yesterday i installed mtr on my debian 2.0 hamm system
today (as reported by Tripwire) i see a new file on my system:
/dev/rvndiptcomsk

ls -al /dev/rvndiptcomsk gives :
srwxr-xr-x root root  0   

from where did that file come ?
what is it's use ?

(it's not in dpkg -L mtr nor in Contents-i386)

Thanks for your help

Patrick

Re: bash programming question

[Jiri Baum]

 
> You could put the find in a separate script:
> 
> find . -print0 | xargs -r0 somestuff.sh

If you go that way, you can just
  find . -exec somestuff.sh {} \;

(You might need quotes around the {}.)


Jiri

Compiling my own kernel

[Mario Jorge Nunes Filipe]

Hi

I finnaly did it! I compiled my first kernel!

Everything went (sort of) smoothly except for one thing.

I got the kernel-source package from potato (2.0.36) and kernel-headers
(is this one necessary?). I also got kernel-package!

I made make xconfig. make dep; make clean. and then make-kpgp
--revision=0.1 kernel_image it compiles ok but in the end i get :
test -f System.map &&  cp System.map \
debian/tmp-image/boot/System.map-2.0.36
test -f System.map &&  chmod 644 \
debian/tmp-image/boot/System.map-2.0.36
dpkg-gencontrol -pkernel-image-2.0.36-i586 -Pdebian/tmp-image/
dpkg-gencontrol: error: package kernel-image-2.0.36-i586 not in control
info
make: *** [stamp-image] Error 29

So i dont have a deb of my kernel, but i got it in debian/tmp-image/boot
so everything is ok.

I just wanted to know what did i do wrong!

Thanks 

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Re: unix98 pty system

[Alexander N. Benner]

hi

Ship's Log, Lt. Jonathan P Tomer, Stardate 210199.1948:
> ok, so if i grab glibc2.1 i can use unix98 ptys? or will everything break on
> glibc2.1?
> 

I have it swiched on for quit a while (2.1.*) without a prob.
I use libc 2.0.7v right now.

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HotWire Fax software

[Stephen M Lavelle]

I was looking for some decent fax software that I could use in the X enviroment
and came across the HotWire link at http://www.linuxresources.com
Good I thought and downloaded the file into my home directory. I tarred the 
fileand did ./lxinstall, then started x and did ./HotWire. The programme seemed 
to 
initialise but then nothing. 
Now i'm getting local mail with the following format:
Subject: Cron PATH=$PATH; 'cat /etc/HotWire' /bin:;export PATH; hwdespool.sh
X-Cron-Env:
X-Cron-Env:
X-Cron-Env:
X-Cron-Env:

cat:/etc/HotWire:Nosuch file or directory
/bin/sh:hwdespool.sh:command not found
_
It is not a .deb package but claims to work on all Linux flavours.
My Unix experience is limited so if anyone can help me with the install and
configuration i'd be grateful.
Best Regards,
Stephen
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Re: Debian goes big business?

[J.H.M. Dassen]

On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 20:26:12 +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 06:12:14PM -0500, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> > Laurent Martelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >What about non-developper users ? Shouldn't they have a word to say,
> >even if they can't or do not have the time to contribute with code ? 
> > 
> > They should have `a word to say', and they do--they can subscribe to
> > Debian lists and give their feedback and advice, which developers are
> > free to follow or ignore.  But they do not, and should not, IMO, have
> > the privilege of voting or otherwise setting policy.  Users are not
> > developers and shouldn't presume to be.
> 
> i mostly agree but wouldn't put it anywhere near that strongly.

I would. Ben's phrasing strongly reminds me of Robert A. Heinlein;
especially of the concept of TANSTAAFL and the political system he describes
in "Starship Troopers", where the right to vote must be earned through a
tour of duty of public (not necessary military) service.

In the case of Debian, users do not have the right of vote, but can earn it
by becoming developers (i.e. by maintaining packages, but also by writing
documentation, maintaining the website etc.).

Ray
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Re: Debian goes big business?

[Craig Sanders]

On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 06:12:14PM -0500, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> Laurent Martelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> "ChL" == Christian Lavoie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>ChL> Bottom line: Debian should remain developer controlled.
> 
>What about non-developper users ? Shouldn't they have a word to say,
>even if they can't or do not have the time to contribute with code ? 
> 
> They should have `a word to say', and they do--they can subscribe to
> Debian lists and give their feedback and advice, which developers are
> free to follow or ignore.  But they do not, and should not, IMO, have
> the privilege of voting or otherwise setting policy.  Users are not
> developers and shouldn't presume to be.

i mostly agree but wouldn't put it anywhere near that strongly.

users are not developers, but they might be one day. one of the good
things about debian is that users who are willing to put in some work
CAN join up as developers.

i started that way a few years ago, and i'll bet that most debian
developers did too.

craig

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Re: Learning more/Linux programming books

[Mamoun Alissali]

Andreas Sliwka wrote:
> 
> Steve Lamb wrote:
> >
> > I don't know, I think if there were a language to start newbies out on,
> > it is perl.  Don't have to worry about many of the things that other
> > languages force upon you yet gives you a good gounding in how those other
> > languages work.
> 
> Heaven, no!
> 
> I think its quite a sinn to give perl to a newbie, perl corrupts. I use
> Perl since two years and I quite like it, but only because I can choose
> to use either imperative or oop thinking in perl and I dont have to
> every variable.
> 
> And thats the reason why a newbie should start with a a structured
> language like java (oop), pascal (imperative) or scheme
> (functional/lists oriented), so she/he learns to order hers/his thoughts
> and get a habit of problem solving. Perl gives you every opportunity to
> everything in one or two or in any other way, and I don't think that
> this is a good start in programming ...
> 
> soryy, my 2 euros

  May I add my 2 euros as well, though I didn't read everything in this
discussion? I think that OO analysis and design is fundamental for
mastering OO programming. My prefered refernces are Meyer, Booch and
Raumbaugh (OMT). I think I'd better hide under the table to avoid the
flames :-).

  Mamoun

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video_TV cards help

[Joze Kovacic]

Hello
  For few days now, I've been honted by a 'need to upgrade' video out of
my PII engine...
  I would like to know some of Your views/experiences on my list of
'would_be' solutions:

 (ASUS P2L97 AGP Mainboard rev 2.04; I am looking for AGP card with
 optional TV tuner and/or grabb./video_conf. functinality)

AGP V3400TNT , 128bit RIVA-TNT based
AGP V1326, SiS 6326 based
AGP V2740, Intel 740 based
AGP V385GX2  , S3 ViRGE/GX2 based

Or should I settle for say Matrox G200 AGP and look for grabber_card only?

..and yes, I've read all that can be found on V4L pages, and like what is
there...right now I'd like to know about Your working slutions with upper
listed...if any?

jk

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Re: Netscape Toolbar Icon

[Patrick Colbeck]

On Fri Jan 22, 1999 at 06:54:05PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 10:27:58AM +0700, UF Marpaung wrote:
> > I've installed Netscape and Navigator45 in my Debian system.
> > I use WindowMaker and Enlightenment. But why icon images
> > in Navigator's toolbar look bad ? only 2 color (black and white)
> > Any suggestion ?
> 
> What color depth are you using in X? Probably 8 bit (default).
> Netscape is a colour hog.

It also tends to do this with some X servers in 24 bit colour. Try 16 or 32
bit colour instead.

Pat

Re: DB2 progress - success!

[Colin McCormack]

DB2 success!

Joey Hess clued me in, the RPM scripts weren't being run, so I changed the 
/bin/rpm hack script to this:

#!/bin/sh

alien --to-deb --scripts -i $2

With the noted symlinks:
> /bin/awk -> /usr/bin/gawk
> /bin/basename -> /usr/bin/basename
> /bin/compress -> /usr/bin/compress
> /bin/grep -> /usr/bin/grep
> /bin/egrep -> /usr/bin/egrep
> /bin/sed -> /usr/bin/sed
> /bin/touch -> /usr/bin/touch

Installation proceeded.  I can now start the database, catalog a node, connect 
to the sample database ... it's looking pretty healthy.

Next, getting the web control center to work :)

Colin.

Re: slink vs. staroffice 5.0

[Ben Messinger]

Ben Messinger wrote:
> 
> I had staroffice 5.0 working under hamm, but it broke when I updated to
> slink. I am assuming due to differences in libc.so.6 between hamm and
> slink. Is this right? Is there a way to keep slink and still get
> staroffice working again? Everything else I use is working fine.

False alarm. Somehow I lost an environment variable I had previously
set. All is well now.

Re: SQL packages

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 10:51:28PM -0600, Adam Keys wrote:
> a) compatible with sql server?  so far as odbc, mysql and postgreSQL offer 
> odbc,
> which is probably how you connect to your server.  the tables, however, are
> stored in a binary format in sql server (AFAIK), while mysql stores the data 
> in
> flat text files.  you're going to need to do some SQL trickery to move the 
> data

Err, it does? It doesn't here.  There's just no way you can get decent
speed from text files.


Hamish
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Re: Netscape Toolbar Icon

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 10:27:58AM +0700, UF Marpaung wrote:
> I've installed Netscape and Navigator45 in my Debian system.
> I use WindowMaker and Enlightenment. But why icon images
> in Navigator's toolbar look bad ? only 2 color (black and white)
> Any suggestion ?

What color depth are you using in X? Probably 8 bit (default).
Netscape is a colour hog.


Hamish
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