Re: using Hauppauge WinTV under Debian

[Syrus Nemat-Nasser]

On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Andrei Ivanov wrote:

> > I have one windows machine at home among many which I'm trying to
> > transition to Debian but it has one card that I don't think will
> > work with Debian.  It's my Hauppauge WinTV card
> > it's a TV/Radio tuner which works under all the winblows versions
> 
> Just because it works with Windows doesnt guarantee it's work with Linux. 
> It's a WinTV card. Basicly, logic suggests it's a Win-hardware, and
> therefor you can not use it with Linux.
> Andrew

But, this logic doesn't apply to the Hauppauge cards. They use the BT848
chipset which was the first chipset supported under Linux using the bttv
driver. 

Thanks. Syrus.

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Re: SiS6326 chip and XFree86

[Julio Cesar Gazquez]

Timo Reunanen wrote:

> Does anyone know when XFree86 3.3.3.1 get some kind of fix to SiS6326 chip
> based cards like Diamond Speedstart A50 what I have?
>
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I'm using a pre-XFree release of newer SiS X-Server.
I downloaded it from SuSE at late October (It was dated Oct 5 or so) from SuSE, 
but
it looks to be removed, so I think it must be already added on XFree distro.
BTW, the 6326 support is not complete, all hardware functions just give image
corruption, but it is better than nothing, and I'm using it
on my PII-266 with 16bpp and works fine enough.

Re: using Hauppauge WinTV under Debian

[John Goerzen]

Andrei Ivanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > it's a TV/Radio tuner which works under all the winblows versions
> 
> Just because it works with Windows doesnt guarantee it's work with Linux. 
> It's a WinTV card. Basicly, logic suggests it's a Win-hardware, and
> therefor you can not use it with Linux.

This is incorrect.  Those cards use the BT848 chipset, which is
explicitly supported by Video4Linux.

Re: /etc/lynx.cfg -> ~/.lynxrc

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Thu, Apr 01, 1999 at 05:53:02PM +0200, scratch wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Apr 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > P.S.  `lynx -cfg=~/.lynxrc' on the command line works fine, how can I add
> > that to the .bash_profile?
> 
> Just adding 'alias lynx="lynx -cfg=~/.lynxrc" ' doesn't work?

I think you should put

alias lynx="lynx -cfg=$HOME/.lynxrc", rather than using ~.

On tcsh, you need a space instead of equals, if that's what you're using.


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Re: [OffTopic] OSS word processor projects?

[Ed Cogburn]

Mark Wagnon wrote:
> 
> Ed Cogburn wrote:
> >
> > Yes, WordPerfect is very nice.  Unfortunely, neither SO nor WP
> > are "free" in the opensource sense, but it was WP that got me to
> > wondering if there was a serious OSS word processor project out
> > there somewhere.
> >
> 
> This thread piqued my interest. I ran across this site which might give
> a little info on wordprocessors (free and comercial) for Linux.
> 
> http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/wp.html
> 


BINGO!  Thanks Mark.  I had actually seen Christopher Browne's
word processor web page a year or so back, and had forgot about
it.  It appears up to date; it has AbiWord in its list.


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Re: using Hauppauge WinTV under Debian

[Andrei Ivanov]

> I have one windows machine at home among many which I'm trying to
> transition to Debian but it has one card that I don't think will
> work with Debian.  It's my Hauppauge WinTV card
> it's a TV/Radio tuner which works under all the winblows versions

Just because it works with Windows doesnt guarantee it's work with Linux. 
It's a WinTV card. Basicly, logic suggests it's a Win-hardware, and
therefor you can not use it with Linux.
Andrew

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Re: using Hauppauge WinTV under Debian

[Syrus Nemat-Nasser]

On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Ramiel Givergis wrote:

> I've noticed in the newer kernels there is now support for TV tuners
> and FM tuner
> 
> I have one windows machine at home among many which I'm trying to
> transition to Debian but it has one card that I don't think will
> work with Debian.  It's my Hauppauge WinTV card
> it's a TV/Radio tuner which works under all the winblows versions
> 
> I have not seen any docs on this card for linux
> 
> does anyone know if it's possible to use this under linux?
> 
> has anyone actualy attempted this?

I've got a Hauppauge WinTV card now working under Debian with kernel
2.2.1. I can't give details now because I'm at work (different machine).
The trick was to get the correct hardware addressing so both sound and
video would work. I got the correct settings from an old archived email on
this list. I compiled the kernel with the appropriate video4linux support
for my card, and then I custom compiled a recent version of xawtv. The
Debian package appears to be broken. Anyway, using xawtv, I can watch TV
in a window. It works. It's cool. No more need to reboot to Windows since
I've decided to stop using Quicken.

Thanks. Syrus.

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ssh problem: stdin is not a tty

[Obi]

Hello,

since a couple of weeks I'm having problem ssh or scp to my laptop: I'm
getting this error
stdin: is not a tty
I can ssh to everyother location or scp, but not to my laptop. I'm
running potato and kernel 2.2.3. 

Any ideas on what the problem can be?

graziano


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using Hauppauge WinTV under Debian

[Ramiel Givergis]

I've noticed in the newer kernels there is now support for TV tuners
and FM tuner

I have one windows machine at home among many which I'm trying to
transition to Debian but it has one card that I don't think will
work with Debian.  It's my Hauppauge WinTV card
it's a TV/Radio tuner which works under all the winblows versions

I have not seen any docs on this card for linux

does anyone know if it's possible to use this under linux?

has anyone actualy attempted this?

System time is broken

[Dave Swegen]

Ever since we went over to summer time here in the UK my system has been
broken. It started with the extra hour not being added after the change. I
then tried to correct it using the date command, and have then tried the
hwclock command (which worked). My problem is that whenever I use standby
on my machine the kernel time isn't updated, which it used to (it was a
standard hamm setup).

I would really appreciate it if someone could help me get out of this mess.
Any help much appreciated. 

Btw, I read the clock mini-HOWTO, but it only works as long as I don't
standby the system. Also, I seem to recall there was a thread here about
how to set clocks, but I couldn't find anything in the mailing list
archives, so any pointers would be useful.

Cheers
Dave

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Re: [OffTopic] OSS word processor projects?

[Mark Wagnon]

Ed Cogburn wrote:
> 
> Yes, WordPerfect is very nice.  Unfortunely, neither SO nor WP
> are "free" in the opensource sense, but it was WP that got me to
> wondering if there was a serious OSS word processor project out
> there somewhere.
> 

This thread piqued my interest. I ran across this site which might give
a little info on wordprocessors (free and comercial) for Linux.

http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/wp.html

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Xawtv: no sound output

[Mario Bertrand]

Hi,

I have problem to get sound from my tv card.

My harware:

I have the 2.2.1 kernel with BTTV module support.
I use XAWTV from the potato.
My card come with bttv 878 chipset
I have cs4232 sound module support (built in motherboard)

Some logs:

bash-2.02$ xmixer -all -debug -device /dev/mixer
xmixer: Enabling all sliders.
xmixer: SOUND_MIXER_READ_DEVMASK returned 0x13F9
xmixer: SOUND_MIXER_READ_RECMASK returned 0x02C8
xmixer: SOUND_MIXER_READ_STEREODEVS returned 0x11D9
xmixer: Slider `vol' requested and supported by driver.
xmixer: Slider `bass' requested but NOT supported by driver.
xmixer: Slider `treble' requested but NOT supported by driver.
xmixer: Slider `synth' requested and supported by driver.
xmixer: Slider `pcm' requested and supported by driver.
xmixer: Slider `speaker' requested and supported by driver.
xmixer: Slider `line' requested and supported by driver.
xmixer: Slider `mic' requested and supported by driver.
xmixer: Slider `cd' requested and supported by driver.
xmixer: Slider `mix' requested and supported by driver.
xmixer: Slider `pcm2' requested but NOT supported by driver.
xmixer: Slider `rec' requested but NOT supported by driver.
xmixer: Slider `igain' requested and supported by driver.
xmixer: Slider `ogain' requested but NOT supported by driver.
xmixer: Slider `line1' requested but NOT supported by driver.
xmixer: Slider `line2' requested but NOT supported by driver.
xmixer: Slider `line3' requested but NOT supported by driver.

~# cat /proc/interrupts
   CPU0   
  0: 585296  XT-PIC  timer
  1:  12450  XT-PIC  keyboard
  2:  0  XT-PIC  cascade
  5: 49  XT-PIC  Crystal audio controller
 10:   1067  XT-PIC  eth0
 11: 383661  XT-PIC  bttv
 12: 105512  XT-PIC  PS/2 Mouse
 13:  1  XT-PIC  fpu
 14:  66278  XT-PIC  ide0
 15:  4  XT-PIC  ide1
NMI:  0


Here is my problem:

I have tv output but no sound. I have tried all possible mixer setting in
.xawtv config file without any success. The loop to the sound card doesn't
work. Also, there is no sound from the bttv card output if i connect
headphone directly on it. Any idea?

Thanks.

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Re: [OffTopic] OSS word processor projects?

[Ed Cogburn]

Daniel Mashao wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Ed Cogburn wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> >   I know about PW (Pathetic Writer which is part of SIAG) and
> > AbiWord (a GTK project), but I'm curious to know if there are any
> > other WP projects in existence out there, especially if one of the
> > goals is being able to read and write MS Word files.
> StarOffice is the closest you will get to MS look and feel. And then there
> is another editir that can read MS RTF format perfectly, I forgot its name
> now. You could also get the free WordPerfect and see if it can translate
> for you, there is also some Word to * translators.


Yes, WordPerfect is very nice.  Unfortunely, neither SO nor WP
are "free" in the opensource sense, but it was WP that got me to
wondering if there was a serious OSS word processor project out
there somewhere.


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Re: Size mismatch for xlib6g

[Ingvaldur Þ . Sigurjonsson]

Hi,
Steve Lamb wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, 01 Apr 1999 21:44:27 -0800, Ingvaldur  . Sigurjonsson wrote:
> 
> >Get:1 http://master.debian.org xfree-3.3.3.1/ xlib6g 3.3.3.1-0 [956kb]
> 
> Uhm, I'd say fetch it manually and install it manually.
> 

So I did, downloaded xlib6_... xlib6g_... and xlib6g-dev, installed them
manually with dpkg and the rest installed smoothly with "dselect and
apt".

But if there is a failure in the Packages.gz (or were is the problem?)
maybe the provider would like to know about it!

Thankx for quick response

Best regards
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Re: Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 Installation

[Marlon Urias]

On Sun, 28 Mar 1999, Will Lowe wrote:

> > "... iso9660 not supported by kernel" is there. Why?
> iso9660 is a filesystem type.  The kernel's complaining that it doesn't
> have that module installed,  and so can't read the filesystem.
> 
> > . configuring device driver modules
> >  . fs modules : hpfs, ncp, smbs, umsdos, vfat
> Select iso9660 also.  (I think there's an option for it).

I have the exact same problem! Except that there is no iso9660 option
in there! I dont get it. Why aren't more people having this same problem?
Is it that most debian types know how to get around this, hence there is
very little mention? Can I load the module somehow before starting
dselect? If so some pointers would be appreciated. Thanks   marlon
 

[Q] Midnight Commander

[Attila Csosz]

How could I say to the MC to get into that directory where I stand, after I
leave the MC ?
I observe that the directory showed by MC different from get into after I
leave the MC.
Sorry of my english:)

Thanks
 Attila

Debian 2.1/2.0.36

Re: shell scripting

[Keith Beattie]

On Thu, Apr 01, 1999 at 03:46:27PM -0600, Craig Hancock wrote:
> Hello al I was wondering if someone can tell me of some website taht
> talk aboput shell scripting in great detail thanks

The definitive reference for bash can be found (among other places)
at: http://www.gnu.org/manual/bash-2.02/bashref.html

ksb

Re: Announce: 3D graphical install for Debian

[Mitch Blevins]

It works for me... and I only have an AMD/300.
Great work, Ben!

In foo.debian-user, you wrote:
> 
> Yup..you are right.  It won't boot on my 486dx4/100.  Damn..it's got a
> sweet OpenGL card in it too.
> 
> -Ian
> 
> On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> 
> > Following up on the success of my VGA 16-color graphical install for
> > Debian, I am pleased to announce the next generation in installation
> > tools for Debian: a 3D install.  Right now this installation is still
> > under heavy development, but it is scheduled to replace the text- and
> > 2D graphics-based installs for the upcoming potato release.
> > 
> > The rationale behind a 3D install is simple: to make it easier for our
> > users.  With 3D glasses and a VR glove, users will be able to select
> > packages by grabbing them out of a bin of available packages and
> > dropping them into a bin of packages to install.
> > 
> > There are some minor additional hardware requirements for this
> > install: a Pentium II/333 or equivalent processor, 64 MB RAM, a 3D
> > accelerated video card.  Most newer computers will fit these
> > requirements, and others can be retrofitted easily and cheaply to that
> > level.  This amount of hardware is only necessary for the install
> > itself, and may be removed later, so these requirements should be
> > acceptable to everyone.
> > 
> > For an early demo of this technology, please try the current
> > development boot floppy on my machine at
> > ftp://pfaffben.user.msu.edu/misc/resc1440-3d-19990401.bin
> > 
> > Pleased to bring you the future in Debian installs,
> > 
> > Ben.

shell scripting

[Craig Hancock]

Hello al I was wondering if someone can tell me of some website taht
talk aboput shell scripting in great detail thanks

booting from zip

[Arie Kuipers]

Hello,

On this side i read that it is posible to boot from zip. Could you
please tell me what it costs and where i can order it.
http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-user-9708/msg00560.html

greetings, Arie

Re: Screen resolution

[Andrei Ivanov]

Why dont you post error messages to the list?
Chances are, it will say that no valid modes are found (at least there
are ways that can work to go around that. I have a more/less readable
file on my page, about how to setup video modes. Try that too), but just
to be sure, post them here, and we'll see what we can do. 
Andrew

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Re: mime types in KDE

[Pollywog]

> The only problem here is that you have KDEDIR set.  It should not be set
> at all.  I've been using the KDE 1.1 debs for quite a while (since they
> were released) and I've had no problems...

When I installed the debs, I am sure I saw a message that stated I had
successfully installed KDE and that I should add KDEDIR to my /etc/profile.

I will try going without KDEDIR and see what happens.

thanks

PS- on second thought, perhaps the message only said I should add KDEDIR to my
PATH and I misread it.

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Re: April Fools?

[Kent West]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Is it just me, the current date, or am I seeing a bunch of messages come
> throught that I could have sworn I'd seen previously?
>
> -Jay
>
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I thought it was just me, but since you saw them too, I guess not.

Re: where is ldd ?

[Bob Nielsen]

On 1 Apr 1999, Pierfrancesco Caci wrote:

> :-> "Bob" == Bob Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > What version of ldso do you have installed.  It should contain ldd (the
> > potato version does not, however, since it is now included in libc6 2.1.
> 
> 
> Bob, I installed the version 1.9.10-1 that comes with the Official CD
> number 1 of version 2.1 (slink)
> Thinking of an error  of the packager I tried the one that comes with
> potato (1.9.10-1.2) but as yiu said it doesn't contain ldd either.
> 
> Fortunately I had a pc which was not upgraded yet so I simply ftp'ed
> the file from there.
> 
> I think that this is a bug, should we file a report?

I have the same version of ldso on a slink machine and it IS there.  I
don't think there is any reason to file a bug report.  I don't know what
happened on your system, but you might try reinstalling from the cd.

You could try unpacking the package with ar and look to see what it
contains.

Bob


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Re: [SuSE Linux] What DO you lose with Linux ???

[Bob Nielsen]

tkirc works fine for me.

Bob

On Mon, 29 Mar 1999, BENJAMIN FARRELL wrote:

> Heres a good point about linux, anyone found a good irc client for x (other
> than Bitchx in a E-Term :) that doesn't crash everytime you click (yagirc
> anyone). I still find for everyday use Win95/NT is better (quaking, ircing,
> browsing, ftping). It seems that linux has quite a good range of
> applications, just a case of find one, and one that works fine.
> 
> // Ben Farrell (BigBadBen)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> suse-linux-e@suse.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; debian-user@lists.debian.org
> 
> Date: 28 March 1999 21:23
> Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] What DO you lose with Linux ???
> 
> 
> >mmm I must be delusional.  I haven't booted my Win95 side in months
> >(When SuSE 6.1 with the 2.2.x kernel comes out I will reclaim that space
> >for Linux) so how am I keeping my checkbook balanced and reconciled?
> >Must be a phantom copy of cbb.  I do my symbolic math with MuPAD 3.4
> >instead of MathCad 7.0 but I must be dilusional there also.  My scanner
> >scans perfectly well using Sane-1.0, which is called out of GIMP-1.0 and
> >my other graphics programs, to say nothing of Blender-1.37 and Varkon,
> >but I must be imagining things. I think I'm enjoying air combat
> >simulation with ACM 5.0, which is much better than M$ Flight Sim.  I'm
> >not into music but I do know there are some fantasic sound and sound
> >analysis programs.
> >To sum up, has this guy done any serious searching?
> >JLK
> >
> >"(Ted Harding)" wrote:
> >>
> >> Apologies for duplicate postings, but I'd like to make sure I sound
> >> a diverse population.
> >>
> >> Today' London "Sunday Times" feature "Innovation" (pp 10-11 of "News
> >> Review", http://www.sunday-times.co.uk ) has an article by David Hewson
> >> (of "Linux, the Program from Hell" fame) entitled "Linux wins backing of
> 
> >> computing giants".
> >>
> >> His attitude to Linux is much more moderate than it was: the article
> >> is basically balanced and fair, including some sound negative comment.
> >>
> >> However, he states:
> ...
> >>
> >> Comments, info, contributions, anyone?
> >>
> >> Best wishes to all,
> >> Ted.
> >>
> >> 
> >> E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Date: 28-Mar-99   Time: 12:49:27
> >> -- XFMail --
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Announce: 3D graphical install for Debian

[Ian Keith Setford]

Yup..you are right.  It won't boot on my 486dx4/100.  Damn..it's got a
sweet OpenGL card in it too.

-Ian

On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Ben Pfaff wrote:

> Following up on the success of my VGA 16-color graphical install for
> Debian, I am pleased to announce the next generation in installation
> tools for Debian: a 3D install.  Right now this installation is still
> under heavy development, but it is scheduled to replace the text- and
> 2D graphics-based installs for the upcoming potato release.
> 
> The rationale behind a 3D install is simple: to make it easier for our
> users.  With 3D glasses and a VR glove, users will be able to select
> packages by grabbing them out of a bin of available packages and
> dropping them into a bin of packages to install.
> 
> There are some minor additional hardware requirements for this
> install: a Pentium II/333 or equivalent processor, 64 MB RAM, a 3D
> accelerated video card.  Most newer computers will fit these
> requirements, and others can be retrofitted easily and cheaply to that
> level.  This amount of hardware is only necessary for the install
> itself, and may be removed later, so these requirements should be
> acceptable to everyone.
> 
> For an early demo of this technology, please try the current
> development boot floppy on my machine at
>   ftp://pfaffben.user.msu.edu/misc/resc1440-3d-19990401.bin
> 
> Pleased to bring you the future in Debian installs,
> 
> Ben.
> 
> 
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Message from cron

[Christian Dysthe]

Hi,

I keep getting this message from cron daily:

/etc/cron.daily/suidmanager:
/usr/sbin/sendmail PERMISSION MISMATCH: was root.root 777 changed to root.root
4755

I have not touched the permissions for sendmail. I am using exim, so "sendmail"
in /usr/sbin is a link.

What does this mean?

TIA



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Re: Debian-Gnome mailing list

[Rainer Dorsch]

> On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> 
> > 
> > If I remember right, I heard of a debian-gnome list some time ago. But it 
> > is 
> > not in the mailing-list archive. Does anybody know more of it?
> 
> You are probably looking for debian-gtk-gnome.
>

But it is not on the archive either...

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Re: mime types in KDE

[Noah L. Meyerhans]

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On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Pollywog wrote:

> I am running Slink and KDE.  My mime stuff is in
> 
> /usr/share/mimelnk(I installed KDE from deb packages)
> 
> and my KDEDIR is /usr/bin/X11
> 
> Is there anything wrong with this picture?
> Should I remove the KDE debs and install KDE from source?

The only problem here is that you have KDEDIR set.  It should not be set
at all.  I've been using the KDE 1.1 debs for quite a while (since they
were released) and I've had no problems...

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Re: Debian-Gnome mailing list

[Gergely Madarasz]

On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Rainer Dorsch wrote:

> 
> If I remember right, I heard of a debian-gnome list some time ago. But it is 
> not in the mailing-list archive. Does anybody know more of it?

You are probably looking for debian-gtk-gnome.

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Debian-Gnome mailing list

[Rainer Dorsch]

If I remember right, I heard of a debian-gnome list some time ago. But it is 
not in the mailing-list archive. Does anybody know more of it?

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Re: The newbie needs more help.

[Laurent PICOULEAU]

Hi,

On Thu, 01 Apr, 1999 à 02:05:26AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...] 
> IBM PS/2, 386
> 6 megs ram
> 58 meg esdi hard drive
> MCA (ugh!) architecture
> 1 1.44 floppy
> 
> Ok.  I tried the fdisk fix.  No good.  I tried the MCA site 
> http://www.dgmicro.com/mca/default.htm that was suggested.  It mainly delt
> with using slackware.  Is this an eazier option?  Is thare anyone on the
> list who has tried this method?  I tried it myself, downloading the
> recommended files (ibmmca.s - boot disk, and color.gz - root)
> unfortunately, the setup sort of hangs after the root disk is loaded.

You machine hasn't enough RAM for the normal slackware installation. You
should read the docs concerning lowmem installation but I don't know if
combining MCA, lowmem and only one floppy is manageable...
BTW, I had no problem with ESDI drives but it was not on an MCA machine.
On a PS/2 machine your drive is probably /dev/eda instead of /dev/hda.

HTH

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April Fools?

[MallarJ]

Is it just me, the current date, or am I seeing a bunch of messages come
throught that I could have sworn I'd seen previously?

-Jay

Re: Screen resolution

[Doug Dine]

At 4/1/99 7:39:00 AM, you wrote:

>Why don't you just increase the resolution?
>So...change the resolution. If you can get 1024x768 in windows, you should
>be able to get at least 800x600 in Linux, if not better. Just rerun
>xf86config.

I have tried to but then X won't start. Gives me a bunch of erno error messages.

I'll play with it again and see what happens.


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Re: Creation of Device for CD-ROM

[Nathan E Norman]

On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Russell Rademacher wrote:

 : Hello.
 : 
 : Figures...  Unfortunably... I do not have those devs on my dev
 : directory.  So.. it seems that I need to make those devices.  Can you help on
 : that so I can get my CD-ROM working?  Either a copy of those files or other
 : methods will help so I can get it moving.

Supposedly `/dev/MAKEDEV sbpcd' will create the sbpcd devices, but it
doesn't work here, for some reason.  I've never had good luck with
/dev/MAKEDEV; I think it's cursed.

If you want to use mknod, the major/minor numbers are as follows:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ ll /dev/sbpcd*
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root6 Jun  2  1998 /dev/sbpcd -> sbpcd0
br--r-   1 root cdrom 25,   0 May 12  1998 /dev/sbpcd0
br--r-   1 root cdrom 25,   1 May 12  1998 /dev/sbpcd1
br--r-   1 root cdrom 25,   2 May 12  1998 /dev/sbpcd2
br--r-   1 root cdrom 25,   3 May 12  1998 /dev/sbpcd3

so the following commands will do it:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ cd /dev
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/dev $ sudo mknod -m 0440 sbpcd0 b 25 0
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/dev $ sudo mknod -m 0440 sbpcd1 b 25 1 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/dev $ sudo mknod -m 0440 sbpcd2 b 25 2  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/dev $ sudo mknod -m 0440 sbpcd3 b 25 3 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/dev $ sudo mknod -m 0440 sbpcd4 b 25 4 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/dev $ sudo ln -s sbpcd0 sbpcd

HTH

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Re: Size mismatch for xlib6g

[Steve Lamb]

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>Get:1 http://master.debian.org xfree-3.3.3.1/ xlib6g 3.3.3.1-0 [956kb]

Uhm, I'd say fetch it manually and install it manually.

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Size mismatch for xlib6g

[Ingvaldur Þ . Sigurjonsson]

Hi,

I'm trying to upgrade to XFree 3.3.3.1 from
http://master.debian.org/~vincent/xfree-3.3.3.1 but I always get this
"size mismatch from package xlib6g".

I've tried several time without success, so now I wonder if anyone else
has had the same problem and if there is a solution to it?

The output from dselect->Install follows:
>>>
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
18 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 3413kb/11.5Mb of archives. After unpacking 246kb will be
used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
Get:1 http://master.debian.org xfree-3.3.3.1/ xlib6g 3.3.3.1-0 [956kb]
Fetched 1b in 1s (1b/s)
E: Size mismatch for package xlib6g
Some errors occurred while unpacking. I'm going to configure the
packages that were installed. This may result in duplicate errors
or errors caused by missing dependencies. This is OK, only the errors
above this message are important. Please fix them and run [I]nstall
again
Press enter to continue.


installation script returned error exit status 100.
Press RETURN to continue.

Best regards

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Re: where is ldd ?

[Brian Servis]

*- On  1 Apr, Pierfrancesco Caci wrote about "Re: where is ldd ?"
> :-> "Bob" == Bob Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > What version of ldso do you have installed.  It should contain ldd (the
> > potato version does not, however, since it is now included in libc6 2.1.
> 
> 
> Bob, I installed the version 1.9.10-1 that comes with the Official CD
> number 1 of version 2.1 (slink)
> Thinking of an error  of the packager I tried the one that comes with
> potato (1.9.10-1.2) but as yiu said it doesn't contain ldd either.
> 
> Fortunately I had a pc which was not upgraded yet so I simply ftp'ed
> the file from there.
> 
> I think that this is a bug, should we file a report?
> 
> Pf
> 
> 

Try downloading ldso_1.9.10-1 from your favorite Debian mirror and
reinstalling it with 'dpkg -i ldso_1.9.10-1.deb', ldd is in there.

% dpkg -l ldso
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ NameVersionDescription
+++-===-==-
ii  ldso1.9.10-1   The Linux dynamic linker, library and utilit

% dpkg -L ldso
/.
/sbin
/sbin/ldconfig.new
/usr
/usr/bin
/usr/bin/ldd   <=== here it is
/usr/lib
/usr/lib/lddstub
/usr/man
/usr/man/man8
/usr/man/man8/ld.so.8.gz
/usr/man/man8/ldconfig.8.gz
/usr/man/man1
/usr/man/man1/ldd.1.gz
/usr/doc
/usr/doc/ldso
/usr/doc/ldso/copyright
/usr/doc/ldso/README.gz
/usr/doc/ldso/changelog.gz
/lib
/lib/ld.so.1.9.10
/lib/ld-linux.so.1.9.10
/lib/ld-linux.so.1
/lib/libdl.so.1.9.10
/lib/libdl.so.1

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mime types in KDE

[Pollywog]

I am running Slink and KDE.  My mime stuff is in

/usr/share/mimelnk(I installed KDE from deb packages)

and my KDEDIR is /usr/bin/X11

Is there anything wrong with this picture?
Should I remove the KDE debs and install KDE from source?


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Re: where is ldd ?

[Pierfrancesco Caci]

:-> "Bob" == Bob Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> What version of ldso do you have installed.  It should contain ldd (the
> potato version does not, however, since it is now included in libc6 2.1.


Bob, I installed the version 1.9.10-1 that comes with the Official CD
number 1 of version 2.1 (slink)
Thinking of an error  of the packager I tried the one that comes with
potato (1.9.10-1.2) but as yiu said it doesn't contain ldd either.

Fortunately I had a pc which was not upgraded yet so I simply ftp'ed
the file from there.

I think that this is a bug, should we file a report?

Pf


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Re: 'www' now M$ trademark ?

[William R Pentney]

On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Bob Nielsen wrote:
> As an example of how much control over websites the evil empire actually
> has:  http://www.userfriendly.org/ has bit the dust, leading to a new
> "gray ribbon" campaign .  
> 
> Unless the whole thing is related to the date (I'll have to check back
> tomorrow). 

Hehehe ... just check it out today. Consider your chain to have been
yanked. :-)

Disk usage utility?

[Chris Brown]

Hi all,
I was wondering if there's a utility like top to see who is 
accessing the drives.  The machine has been going nuts with disk 
access for no obvious reason, and we don't know if it's a program 
running in the background, one of our shell users, or something else.
Thanks,
Chris 


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Re: Creation of Device for CD-ROM

[Russell Rademacher]

Hello.

Figures...  Unfortunably... I do not have those devs on my dev
directory.  So.. it seems that I need to make those devices.  Can you help on
that so I can get my CD-ROM working?  Either a copy of those files or other
methods will help so I can get it moving.

Thanks for the clue.

On 01-Apr-99 Nathan E Norman wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Russell Rademacher wrote:
> 
>  : Hello guys.
> 
> [ snip ]
> 
>  : by hdax, hdbx, hdcx and hddx.  I have a old model LaserMate CD Drive
> hooked up
>  : though the antique Packard Bell Sound Galaxy Sound Card which it is
> detected
>  : and found the CD-ROM.
>  : 
>  : But problem is... I do not have the hde set so I need it created
> and
>  : set so that it can be accessed.  What is that command and steps to create
> a new
>  : device for so that I can mount it and set the symbolic link to cdrom.
> 
> I thought LaserMate driven CD-ROMS were driven by the sbpcd module, and
> therefore the devices are /dev/sbpcd0, /dev/sbpcd1, etc.  That's how it
> is here with a Reveal sound card, a LaserMate clone in the controller
> department.
> 
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Help Installing Linux

[Bala Iyer]

Further to the advise of 30th March to check whether the file "linux" via
Netscape came with extension ".htm" and to save it as only Linux and not
Linux.htm. I tried to do that but could not achieve that. So I tried to
download the file (by keeping the shift key down while downloading) again and
it keeps coming with the extension "htm". I also tried with IE0.5 to download
without any success. In the Debian instructions Ch.5 (5.2) it says that some
browser may need to take special action to download directly to a file, in raw
binary mode and gives for Netscape to hold the shift key while downloading.
Can any one let me know if there are any such instruction for IE's?

Thanks again for any help.

Bala.


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Re: need to scan drive thoroughly

[Daniel Mashao]

On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Lev Lvovsky wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> well, if any of you are wondering, I was able to get debian installed on 
> the system by low level formatting the IDE drive from BIOS (LILO kept 
> giving crc errors upon uncompressing Linux).
> Now I have another problem...anything that I download to the IDE drive 
> (where the /home and /boot partitioins are), I get crc errors upon 
> uncompressing them.  using 'fsck' on the various partitions returns no 
> errors, but I think this might be where I"m getting my crc errors when I'm 
> decompressingthe linux image also...
Read the manpage for fcsk. You will need to force fcsk to check the drive
I think you need to use -f (force to check) and/or -c . Run e2fsck as root
with the options. + see the man pages.

Enlightenment .15 required debs

[Sean M Maguire]

I am trying to install the enlightenment 0.15 package, obtained from 
www.debian.org via a link from the Enlightenment download page.

The package for Enlightenment requires that I have imlib1 >= 1.9.4 installed, 
but I am unable to find this package anywhere.  Unstable only offers 1.9.3-4.  
I tried to make a package from Enlightenment's rpm at their site using alien, 
but I got an imlib package, which I am sure would be rejected by dpkg for not 
being imlib1.

I have not tried forcing the install, as that seems potentially problematic.

Is there a package for this, or do I need to make one via a more particular 
method of making my own package?


Sean M

Re: RedHat = MS-Linux

[Bruce Sass]

On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Ed Cogburn wrote:
> Bruce Sass wrote:
> > On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Ed Cogburn wrote:
> > >   The issue is not that the Linux kernel would still be available
> > > as open-source, the problem is what happens when 85-95% of app
> > > developers are writing their software only for RH.  The 'open
> > > source' community would not be terribly affected, and would
> > > certainly continue support of Debian and others, but if RH can
> > > wrap up the commercial side of the Linux phenomenon, Debian will
> > > never go much farther than it is now.
> > 
> > If the "'open source' community would not be terribly affected",
> > why should the growth ("go much farther") of Debian be affected?
> 
>   Maybe I should have said "Debian will not grow any more than, and
> not beyond, the open source community.  

Ya, that is a possibility.

> For some, this may not be
> an issue, as the opensource community has developed all of the
> kind of software that they need.  I strongly suspect Linux's
> current popularity is primarily coming from its capabilities in
> the server OS market.  For the rest of us, we don't want to be
> dual-booting with Win 2010, a decade from now.  We hope for enough
> popularity of Linux to produce commercial software that we can't
> get from the OSS community. 

Hmmm, I think you mean proprietary,
since OSS and commercial are not mutually exclusive.

> Just as importantly, I want to be
> able to do the above with Debian, and not be forced to switch to
> RH just to get access to commercial software that only supports RH
> (or whoever dominates the Linux distro market a decade from now). 
> Dual-booting with Win is bad, dual-booting with RH to run the
> commercial stuff not available to Debian will be just as bad.

So the scenario is that some proprietary, closed source, program is what
you want, and that it has been built with RH in mind.  To be forced into
dual booting RH to run it would mean that the software relies on a
specific kernel version (poorly programmed or incompatibilities between
kernel versions, neither of which is related to the
commercial-proprietary / free-OSS issue), one that your Debian system
isn't running; anything else could be handled by having the correct
libraries on the system.  The only stumbling block I can see is if RH
starts using proprietary libs, and the software you want depends on
them.  Ok, there would be a delay until the OSS community comes up with
replacements.  The only reason I can think of that would result in
"software that we can't get from the OSS community", would be patents
associated with libs only distributed with (lets keep picking on) RH. 
So...

> > As long as RH remains OSS, the worst that can happen is that developers
> > have to translate everything from RH into Debian.  The fact that RH is
> > commercial doesn't enter into the equation.
> 
>   Yes, as long as RH remains committed to working with and for the
> larger Linux community . . . . now read the "Heinz ketchup"
> article referred to earlier in this newsgroup.  RH wants a
> dominant brand name; when they get it what will they do with it?

...you don't trust RH and assume that what you want would be patented. 

> > Are you saying that Linux users will take a commercial product over a
> > free one, just because it is commercial?
> 
>   Some folks have chosen to use the commercial OSS sound drivers
> instead of the ones that come with the kernel source, although in
> general I'll agree with you that a majority of Linux users have a
> strong preference for opensource stuff.  But, what do we do for
> software that has no opensource equivalent (yet)? 

wait awhile

> How many
> questions do you remember from debian-user and elsewhere that want
> to know if there is an opensource word processor that can read and
> write MS Word files?  There are several commercial versions.

The questions indicate that there is a demand, which should result in
more developer interest in providing support for MS Word documents
(i.e., a shorter while to wait). 

> > There is the commercial world and the free world; the free world has
> > been growing in spite of the commercial world, adding one more
> > commercially supported OS will not change that.  In fact, since the free
> > world gets most of its users from the commercial world... an increase in
> > the number of commercial Linux users should result in more converts to
> > free Linux distributions.
> 
>   Basically I agree here, but what I'm concerned about is what
> happens *within* the Linux community when one distro comes to
> dominate all.  Also keep in mind, that an increasing percentage of
> new converts to Linux have a rather ambivalent attitude toward
> OSS.  These folks are *used* to a market dominated by one OS; they
> won't have a problem with a RH dominated Linux community unless
> they are also (hopefully) OSS converts as well as Linux converts.

I don't think the problem is with one distribution dominating the
ma

Re: 'www' now M$ trademark ?

[John Galt]

Happy April fool's

On Thu, 1 Apr 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I heard a rumour that Microsoft has had approved an application
>  to license the tla 'www' as a trademark meaning 
> "wonderful world of windows" but I can't remember the web address.
> 
> Does anyone know anything about this ?
> 
> Does this mean that, in effect, MS has control over __EVERY__ website
> whose url begins 'www' ?
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Ivan.
> 
> 
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Help! I can't even login!

[Stefan Langerman]

Hi,

I have a debian system installed on my box, and it has been working fine
for the past 6 months or so. Yesterday, I decided it was time to update my
packages, so I ran dselect, it downloaded about 100Mb of stuff, and
started installing them. Everything went fine, until it started displaying
repeatedly "libncurses.so.4: no such file or dir..". At that point, the
whole system began to behave strangely, so I decided to reboot (bad idea!)
Now, the boot stops at some point displaying that same error, and altough
it shows the login prompt, it says something like "unable to change
tty..." when I try to login.

Any ideas?

Stefan

Re: where is ldd ?

[Bob Nielsen]

What version of ldso do you have installed.  It should contain ldd (the
potato version does not, however, since it is now included in libc6 2.1.

Bob

On 1 Apr 1999, Pierfrancesco Caci wrote:

> 
> I've lost ldd, looks like it's not included in the slink distribution.
> Is this a bug or  am I supposed to use something else instead?
> It has disappeared since I made a total upgrade to slink yesterday.


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Re: Aagh! A little problem with Corel WP8

[Bob Nielsen]

Both libc5 and libc6 have a libXt.so.6.

/usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 is libc6.  The libc5 version is in
/usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXt.so.6.  If you don't have this, install
xlib6 (and possibly libc5 and xpm4.7).

If you are running a Debian version <2.0, the above doesn't apply.

Bob

On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, William R Pentney wrote:

> 
> A (hopefully) small problem ...
>  
> When I run WordPerfect 8 it says "Can't load file libXt.so.6" and quits.
> Problem is, I have this file. It's part of libc5, no? The libc5 data is in
> usr/X11R6/lib and WP8 is in ~/WP8/bin. Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks again - Bill
> 
> 
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Re: Do We Need a New Evangelist?

[Keith Beattie]

On Mon, Mar 29, 1999 at 04:40:57PM -0800, George Bonser wrote:
> 
> 
> On 29 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Since Eric Raymond has expressed a desire to retire as Open Source 
> > evangelist,
> > I've written an article "Do We Need a New Evangelist?" discussing how he 
> > should
> > be replaced. It's at http://perens.com/Articles/Evangelist.html .
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Bruce Perens
> > 
> 

[snip]

> 
> Why do we even need spokespeople, why does the world need to understand
> us?
> 

I, for one, would like to hear Bruce's responce to George's question.
Perhpas the fact that perens.com has been unreachable for the last 2
days has something to do with this?  Is Bruce's article mirrored
anywhere else?

Thanks,
Keith

Re: Script to check whether modem telephone line in use --- how?

[John Hasler]

Kent West writes:
> But isn't this the case only if the provider (or whatever) file directly
> references the serial port rather than a symlink like /dev/modem?

Which is why such a symlink should never exist.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI

Solaris 7 dual boot

[Tommy Malloy]

Has anyone here looked at Solaris 7 for Intel?  Is there any problem
setting up a dual boot?  Can you make any comparisons to Debian
Gnu/Linux?  Thanks

Re: 'www' now M$ trademark ?

[Bob Nielsen]

On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, athos wrote:

> Ivan wrote:
> ivna> I heard a rumour that Microsoft has had approved an application
> ivna>  to license the tla 'www' as a trademark meaning
> ivna> "wonderful world of windows" but I can't remember the web address.
> 
> ivna> Does anyone know anything about this ?
> 
> ivna> Does this mean that, in effect, MS has control over __EVERY__ website
> ivna> whose url begins 'www' ?
> 
> I wonder if the rumour has anything to do with today's date...

As an example of how much control over websites the evil empire actually
has:  http://www.userfriendly.org/ has bit the dust, leading to a new
"gray ribbon" campaign .  

Unless the whole thing is related to the date (I'll have to check back
tomorrow). 

Bob


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Managing a hybrid slink/potato Debian installation

[Enrico Zini]

Is there a way to say apt that the system should be slink except for some
packages (eg. wmaker, x11amp, gnome, wine) that should come from potato, so
that I can safely issue an apt-get upgrade without being asked to download
63.1Mb of packages?

TYA, Enrico

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where is ldd ?

[Pierfrancesco Caci]

I've lost ldd, looks like it's not included in the slink distribution.
Is this a bug or  am I supposed to use something else instead?
It has disappeared since I made a total upgrade to slink yesterday.

Thanks

Pf

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Re: what exactly is a "segmentation fault"

[Hamori Andras]

rich wrote:

> 
> >Every item in the list should have a left and right side.
> 
> Here is what that tells me - it seems like everything is okay?
> 
> libvga.so.1 => /usr/lib/libvga.so.1 (0x4000c000)
> libvgagl.so.1 => /usr/lib/libvgagl.so.1 (0x40058000)
> libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libX11.so.6 (0x40067000)
> libm.so.5 => /lib/libm.so.5 (0x40105000)
> libc.so.5 => /lib/libc.so.5 (0x4010e000)
> libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x401cc000)
> libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40271000)
> ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4028a000)
> 

I think depending both on libc5 and libc6 shouldn't be a healthy
situation. This one seems to be a libc5 program depending on svgalib,
but maybe you haven't installed the libc5-compatible svgalib libraries
(package 'svgalib1' in section 'oldlibs') so your program tries to use
the libc6 ones, resulting in this conflict.

> 
> Does this tell me anything?
> 
> This also seems similar to an error that I get when I try to run
> "emusic" - nothing happens until I  ^C, then I get the next message...
> 
> Gdk-Message:
> ** ERROR **: sigint caught
> 

I haven't tried 'emusic' so I have no idea why nothing happens, but the
SIGINT is due to the ^C itself (in general, pressing ^C sends a SIGINT
to the process on the corresponding terminal).

András

Re: Script to check whether modem telephone line in use --- how?

[John Hasler]

Carl Johnson writes:
> You might want to look into the 'connect' program from
> 'http://www.caesium.fr/freeware/connect/'.

Interesting, but it doesn't address Mark's problem.  It also requires that
pppd be configured in an idiosyncratic fashion.

> It tracks multiple connect attempts so none trample over each other.

There is no reason why they should.  Pppd locks the serial port.
-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI

Re: kernel eats alot of memory (fwd)

[Fethi A. Okyar]

Fethi Okyar
Research Assistant
Computational Solid Mechanics 
MMAE Department, IIT
Chicago, IL 60616-3793

e-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-- Forwarded message --
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 10:14:10 -0600 (CST)
From: Fethi A. Okyar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Noah L. Meyerhans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel eats alot of memory



On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> 
> On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Fethi A. Okyar wrote:
> 
> > Q:
> > Don't you think this is a lot of memory being used when I'm not
> > running X11 ?
> > So I'm afraid to compile a kernel right now, and thinking of
> > rebooting the system...
> 
> You don't need to rebuild your kernel; there's nothing wrong with it.  The
> memory that shows up as "in use" is being used by the kernel to cache
> things such as disk accesses.  It is available for any program that needs
> it, though.  The kernel will simply re-adjust its caches so it can
> allocate memory to other programs that need it.
> 
> > The other thing is my clock got screwed up, I didn't have that
> > problem before, thus here's the next :
> > 
> > Q:
> > Could there be any relation between the system being up for 
> > such and such time, and the clock getting behind the actual time?
> >  
> 
> I doubt it.  Remember, Linux is used extensively in server environments
> where it is left on for weeks or months at a time.  It would be
> unacceptable if the clock didn't keep accurate time on these machines.
> How far off is your clock getting?
> 
> If you're on a network, you can run xntp to synchronize you clock with
> xntp servers over the network.  This will keep your clock accurate to
> within a few milliseconds or something.  The list of public xntp servers
> is installed with the xntp package.
> 
> noah
> 

thanks for your reply, I think that the problem with the clock is somehow
related with the BIOS-APM. I remember somewhere I read about not to use
the APM features offered by the BIOS, and I hae been using them to my
convenience. I think the clock stops when I use the suspend switch and 
then resume when I start back. So I guess I'll have to rebuild my kernel 
with APM features compiled in. I hope this will work.

fethi

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Aagh! A little problem with Corel WP8

[William R Pentney]

A (hopefully) small problem ...
 
When I run WordPerfect 8 it says "Can't load file libXt.so.6" and quits.
Problem is, I have this file. It's part of libc5, no? The libc5 data is in
usr/X11R6/lib and WP8 is in ~/WP8/bin. Any suggestions?

Thanks again - Bill

Anyone help set up Iomega ZIP drive please?

[Anthony Campbell]

I have installed an Iomega ZIP 100 parallel drive and it works under DOS. I
have read the HOWTO but there seem to be some differences relative to the
latest kernel (2.2.5), which I'm using.

I've compiled in SCSI support, SCSI Disk support, and IOMEGA parallel
support (which I think is unnecessary). None of these are modules and I
don't want to use modules if I can avoid it.

On boot, I get the following messages:

---cut-


Linux version 2.2.5 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.7.2.3) #17 Thu Apr 1 
15:08:32 BST 1999
Detected 233289274 Hz processor.
Console: colour VGA+ 80x30
Calibrating delay loop... 232.65 BogoMIPS
Memory: 30892k/32768k available (892k kernel code, 408k reserved, 536k data, 
40k init)
CPU: Intel Pentium II (Deschutes) stepping 02
Checking 386/387 coupling... OK, FPU using exception 16 error reporting.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
mtrr: v1.26 (19981001) Richard Gooch ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfedc7
PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0.
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
Starting kswapd v 1.5 
parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [SPP,ECP,ECPPS2]
parport0: detected irq 7; use procfs to enable interrupt-driven operation.
Detected PS/2 Mouse Port.
Serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
lp0: using parport0 (polling).
apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x02 (Driver version 1.9)
PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xfe60-0xfe67, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xfe68-0xfe6f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio
hda: TOSHIBA MK4310MAT, ATA DISK drive
hdc: CD-224E, ATAPI CDROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: TOSHIBA MK4310MAT, 4126MB w/0kB Cache, CHS=526/255/63, UDMA
hdc: ATAPI 24X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache
Uniform CDROM driver Revision: 2.54
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is an 8272A
imm: Version 2.03 (for Linux 2.0.0)
scsi : 0 hosts.
scsi : detected total.
PPP: version 2.3.3 (demand dialling)
TCP compression code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of California
PPP line discipline registered.
Partition check:
 hda: hda2 hda3 hda4
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
Freeing unused kernel memory: 40k freed
Adding Swap: 80288k swap-space (priority -1)
TIOCSER?WILD ioctl obsolete, ignored.
TIOCSER?WILD ioctl obsolete, ignored.
registered device ppp0

---cut--

It looks as if the scsi interface has been detected but I don't know if
this is enough or what to do next.  Can anyone help please?


Anthony

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Re: /etc/lynx.cfg -> ~/.lynxrc

[scratch]

On Thu, 1 Apr 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> P.S.  `lynx -cfg=~/.lynxrc' on the command line works fine, how can I add
> that to the .bash_profile?

Just adding 'alias lynx="lynx -cfg=~/.lynxrc" ' doesn't work?

-- nico

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Re: [Fwd: star office]

[William R Pentney]

I feel your pain. I have been trying, unsuccessfully, to get StarOffice to
work on my machine with an S3 card, with no success. It doesn't just crash
when I read mail; usually if I have it on for about five minutes, it will
freeze and won't boot up again. (It also then causes problems when I try
to unmount my filesystem.) The environment variable fix doesn't work,
and the patch on their Web site seems to be obsolete. My roommate has no
problems with it, so I assume it's my machine. I notified Star Division
tech support via phone and they said they'd get back to me about it, so
I'll report back if and when they do.

- Bill

Re: Script to check whether modem telephone line in use --- how?

[Kent West]

John Hasler wrote:

> Robert V. MacQuarrie writes:
> > Put this is /usr/local/bin and call it ispon It isnt anything
> > fancy but it should work for you until ppp's maintainer, Philip Hands, has
> > time to maybe add a check into ppp itself. when run it'll simply tell you
> > if pppd is or isn't running.
>
> pppd already locks the serial port.
> --
> John Hasler
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
> Dancing Horse Hill
> Elmwood, WI

But isn't this the case only if the provider (or whatever) file directly 
references
the serial port rather than a symlink like /dev/modem?

Re: Script to check whether modem telephone line in use --- how?

[jfoltz]

Isn't this what the line:

ABORT "NO CARRIER"

should do in the chat script?

On Thu, Apr 01, 1999 at 10:43:45AM +0930, Mark Phillips wrote:
> 
> This morning I typed "pon" to dial up a ppp connection, only to hear
> noise on my modem to idicate that the line was already in use.  I
> quickly typed "poff", but it was too late --- I had already killed my
> father's connection to the internet.  He was not pleased as I had
> killed his connection near the end of an 8M download.
> 
> Anyway, I don't want this to happen again, so I would like, if
> possible, to write a script which does nothing except listen to the
> modem line for a few seconds so that I can hear whether someone else
> is using it.  I have some idea about how such a script would go, but
> would appreciate some input.  Here is what I propose:
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> 
> echo atm2 > /dev/ttyS1
> echo ato0 > /dev/ttyS1
> pause 2
> echo +++ > /dev/ttyS1
> pause 2
> echo atm1 > /dev/ttyS1
> 
> 
> I'd appreciate any comments about whether this is the best way to go
> about this problem.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Script to check whether modem telephone line in use --- how?

[Kent West]

Mark Phillips wrote:

> This morning I typed "pon" to dial up a ppp connection, only to hear
> noise on my modem to idicate that the line was already in use.  I
> quickly typed "poff", but it was too late --- I had already killed my
> father's connection to the internet.  He was not pleased as I had
> killed his connection near the end of an 8M download.
>
> Anyway, I don't want this to happen again, so I would like, if
> possible, to write a script which does nothing except listen to the
> modem line for a few seconds so that I can hear whether someone else
> is using it.  I have some idea about how such a script would go, but
> would appreciate some input.  Here is what I propose:
>
> #!/bin/bash
>
> echo atm2 > /dev/ttyS1
> echo ato0 > /dev/ttyS1
> pause 2
> echo +++ > /dev/ttyS1
> pause 2
> echo atm1 > /dev/ttyS1
>
> I'd appreciate any comments about whether this is the best way to go
> about this problem.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark.
>
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I can't speak to the usability of your script, but I do know that if your 
father is
running Windows, that still might cause problems. When I was dialing up from a
Windows PC (before I was into Linux), anytime someone would pick up another 
phone
even for a second, it would kill my connection. Dialing up from Linux I've 
actually
survived not only a phone pick-up, but a partial number dialing.

Re: Script to check whether modem telephone line in use --- how?

[John Hasler]

Mark Phillips writes:
> Why does pon kill his connection?

Pon is just simple script:

#!/bin/sh
/usr/sbin/pppd call ${1:-provider}

> Well because pon merrily walses in, spewing out phone numbers and other
> noise onto the line.

Your modem should drop the connection when it fails to get dialtone.  It is
either defective or misconfigured.  Try changing your modem initialization
to ATX4 .  
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI

Re: Script to check whether modem telephone line in use --- how?

[John Hasler]

Bud Rogers writes:
> The most your father should hear is maybe a click when it picks up and
> another when it hangs up.  Curious.  Does it actually try to dial out
> while he's on the phone?

His father is using a modem, not talking.  It is possible that the modem is
so badly designed that it mistakes the carrier for dial tone.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI

Re: Script to check whether modem telephone line in use --- how?

[John Hasler]

Hamish Moffatt writes:
> In my experience, the noise of the line being picked and up dropped by
> the other modem will interfere with the session -- it will almost
> certainly cause the modems to retrain, and may cause them to hang up.

This depends very much on the particular modem.  The one I have now is
pretty much immune to my wife picking up the phone, but my previous one
dropped the connection at the slightest click.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI

Re: 'www' now M$ trademark ?

[John Hasler]

I wrote:
> Not even if the rumor is true.
  ^^^
Ivan writes:
> Actually I thinks it's now April 1 where John is as well now.

Note the qualifier.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI

Re: MTA and SMTP ident

[Martin Bialasinski]

>> "GB" == George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

GC> Is is possible that the MAIL FROM: command in the SMTP protocol is
GC> responsible, and if so, is there any way to circumvent ?
>> 
>> No, I never heared of a MTA changing the from or sender headers or
>> such. It may do checks on the headers though (I belive exim can do this).

GB> So can sendmail with the "Masquerade Envelope" feature.

Sure, right answer, wrong context.

It was about a intermediate MTA (the smarthost or such) changeing the
From: oder Sender: Header when it doesn't meet the MAIL FROM:

I would consider something like this broken.

Ciao,
Martin

Re: /etc/lynx.cfg -> ~/.lynxrc

[Johann Spies]

On Thu, 1 Apr 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hamish Moffatt dixit:
> > On Wed, Mar 31, 1999 at 05:14:57PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > how can I have lynx to use each home user's configuration file instead of
> > > /etc/lynx.cfg?  I mean to default to:
> > > 
> > > $ lynx -cfg=~/.lynxrc
> > 

> P.S.  `lynx -cfg=~/.lynxrc' on the command line works fine, how can I add
> that to the .bash_profile?

I have the following alias in my .bash_aliases because on hamm and on a
grey scale monitor I could not see lynx's cursor.

alias lynx="lynx -show_cursor"

So you can put 

alias lynx="lynx -cfg=~/.lynxrc"

in yours.

Johann

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Re: Script to check whether modem telephone line in use --- how?

[Ken Scott]

>
> > Some sort of "line in use" indicator would be better.
>
> I presume you mean a hardware "led indicator" or something like that?
> I could do that, though I'd prefer a software solution if there is
> one.
>

At your local Radio Shack, along with the LED line-in-use indicator, they also
have a device that will disable your phone jack if another extension is in
use. You could get two of them, one for you, one for your father, and then no
one would be cutting off the other's dial in connection.

How practical is it to network your computer with your dad's, and then do
IP-Masquerading? Just a thought.

HTH,

Ken

Re: kernel.org mirror[oops]

[eric Farris]

see this script:
   http://www.debian.org/mirror/anonftpsync

Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote:
> 
> I'm wanting to start mirror Debian here (Rio de Janeiro - Brazil) 
> since
> I have installed 10 box of Debian Linux around UFRJ campus. :)
> Anyone have the steps to use rsync (the best solution to mirror) or 
> some
> conf file.
> Have a nice day,Paulo Henrique


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We all had delusions in our heads
We all had our minds made up for us
We had to believe in something...
   So we did.

Re: kernel.org mirror[oops]

[Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira]

I'm wanting to start mirror Debian here (Rio de Janeiro - Brazil) since
I have installed 10 box of Debian Linux around UFRJ campus. :)
Anyone have the steps to use rsync (the best solution to mirror) or some
conf file.
Have a nice day,Paulo Henrique
Quoting Pierfrancesco Caci ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> :-> "Chris" == Chris Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Hello everyone,
> > Sorry about that last message, I had a little glitch with my 
> > computer.  Anyway, my question has to do with mirroring.  We are 
> > using slink's fmirror package to mirror "ftp.us.kernel.org".  We 
> > realize that ftp.us.kernel.org often fowards ftp requests to other 
> > servers.  Our problem is that these other servers have different 
> > file times, and sometimes even completely different 
> > directory trees.  Every time we run the fmirror script it says it 
> > needs to redownload about 600 megs of stuff we already have.  It 
> > sometimes even deletes directories that we want, even though we have 
> > the "nodel: 1" option set in the config file.  Should we chose one of 
> > the ftp sites that ftp.us.kernel.org fowards to and stick with that?  
> > If so, which one is best?  Is there a bug in fmirror that causes it 
> > to delete directories even though the nodel option is set?
> 
> 
> 
> the us mirrors are told to have some problems now, which are being
> addressed. If you intend to frequently mirror the entire kernel.org
> site, you'd better use rsync and maybe become yourself part of the
> official mirror sites. More about this on the mailing list
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Pf
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> ---
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>ik5pvx| http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/8999
>   Firenze - Italia   | Office for the Complication of Otherwise Simple 
> Affairs 
>  Linux penny 2.2.5 #1 Tue Mar 30 09:02:24 CEST 1999 i586 unknown

Problem: NFSROOT with netboot and 2.2.x

[Michael Maechtel]

whenever i try to boot a 2.2.x kernel with netboot
everything goes all-right until it starts to mount nfs. 

At this point I get on my client:

Looking up port of RPC 13/2 on 192.168.1.1
portmap: server 192.168.1.1 not responding timed out
Root-NFS: Unable to get nfsd port number from server, using default

Looking up port of RPC 15/1 on 192.168.1.1
portmap: server 192.168.1.1 not responding timed out
Root-NFS: Unable to get mountd port number from server, using default
mount: server 192.168.1.1 not responding, timed out
ROOT-NFS: Server returned error -5 while mounting x
VFS: Unable to mount root fs via NFS 


BUT, from time to time it works (maybe once in 10 times)
Very strange  
No problems at all with 2.0.x kernels. 

On my Debian system I use:

Client:
- Debian slink with Kernel 2.2.5
- netboot 0.8.1

Server:
- Debian slink with Kernel 2.2.5
- nfsd (2.2beta37) or knfsd (1.2) , which makes no difference 

Any ideas?

Regards
Mike

Re: Raid issues

[Brandon Mitchell]

The maintainer appears to be Martin Schultze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.  There are
no bugs reported for this package which is impressive.  I expected a
please update to upstream release or something.  The only thought I have
is that raidtools has been replaced by another program or perhaps in the
kernel.  I claim no more knowledge on the subject, so you may want to send
a polite request to Martin.

Brandon

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Re: Screen resolution

[ktb]

Doug Dine wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have X set for 640 x 480 with 24 bit color as this was all I could get to 
> work
> under X. In Windows I can get 640 x 480, 800 x 600 (which I use) or 1024 x
> 768. Probelem I run into with 640 x 480 in X is that some programs fall off
> the screen and are difficult to use. Is this a common problem with that
> resolution? What screen resolution are most people using?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Doug Dine

I don't know if this will help or not but I just set up X with 800x600
only and had the problem of programs falling off the screen.  I went
back and added 640x480 and 1024x768, in addition to 800x600, that
cleared up the problem.
hth
Kent

Re: kernel eats alot of memory

[Noah L. Meyerhans]

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> Q:
> Don't you think this is a lot of memory being used when I'm not
> running X11 ?
> So I'm afraid to compile a kernel right now, and thinking of
> rebooting the system...

You don't need to rebuild your kernel; there's nothing wrong with it.  The
memory that shows up as "in use" is being used by the kernel to cache
things such as disk accesses.  It is available for any program that needs
it, though.  The kernel will simply re-adjust its caches so it can
allocate memory to other programs that need it.

> The other thing is my clock got screwed up, I didn't have that
> problem before, thus here's the next :
> 
> Q:
> Could there be any relation between the system being up for 
> such and such time, and the clock getting behind the actual time?
>  

I doubt it.  Remember, Linux is used extensively in server environments
where it is left on for weeks or months at a time.  It would be
unacceptable if the clock didn't keep accurate time on these machines.
How far off is your clock getting?

If you're on a network, you can run xntp to synchronize you clock with
xntp servers over the network.  This will keep your clock accurate to
within a few milliseconds or something.  The list of public xntp servers
is installed with the xntp package.

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Re: Screen resolution

[Andrei Ivanov]

Why don't you just increase the resolution?
640x480 is awfully small. I'm able to get 1024x768 out of my monitor (My
S3 DX/Virge can do better, but monitor is stopping me), and I am already
out of space on one screen. But switching between virtual portions of a
desktop could be not very convinient.
So...change the resolution. If you can get 1024x768 in windows, you should
be able to get at least 800x600 in Linux, if not better. Just rerun
xf86config.
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Re: Script to check whether modem telephone line in use --- how?

[John Leget]

Simple solution,  we have another phone downstairs ( i camp with the pc and 
modem
upstairs).
I bought myself a "privacy" adapter which is basically a phone splitter wich 
disables
textension "A" if "B" is in use ( and vice versa), thus i do not get 
disconnected
when they pick the phone up downstairs (Ahummm, well only until im told to get 
off
the line that is ).
Should solve your problem it works great only allows one line to be active, 
also has
a led on each :).

cheers

Mark Phillips wrote:

> > I think I may have misunderstood you earlier.  Your father is using a
> > different computer with a different modem?
>
> Yes.  Different computer, different modem, different operating system,
> phone socket in a different room.
>
> > I don't really see why your modem going off-hook should have killed
> > his connection.  Do you have his modem connected to the "phone"
> > socket on your modem?
>
> No.  The house is wired so there are connections to the phone-line
> both downstairs and upstairs.
>
> Why does pon kill his connection?  Well because pon merrily walses in,
> spewing out phone numbers and other noise onto the line.  Presumably
> this confuses the heck out of my father's computer causing his link to
> go down.  (Incidently, the same happens to me when my father tries to
> connect while I have a ppp link running.)
>
> What I was thinking of is writing a script which will output the
> activity of the phoneline to my speaker for a few seconds, without
> actually putting anything on there, so I can check whether my father's
> connected without disrupting him.  If there's an even neater way to
> do this I'd love to hear it, but this way would be much better than
> my present situation.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark.
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(update) Re: working apt line for unoffical X 3.3.3.1 debs

[Brian Servis]

*- On 31 Mar, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote about "Re: working apt line for unoffical 
X 3.3.3.1 debs"
> It doesn't work because there's no Packages file. You can still download all 
> the debs and install them by hand.
> 

Well, I sent a note off to Vincent and asked if he could put the
Packages file in the xfree-3.3.3.1 directory.  He has done so(Thanks
Vincent).  Now apt does an update but the newer files do not show up in
dselect.  In fact the few 3.3.3.1 packages I have installed by hand
still show up as obsolete.

--- Obsolete/local Optional packages in section x11 --- 
 *** Opt x11  xserver-comm 3.3.3.1-0  
 *** Opt x11  xserver-svga 3.3.3.1-0  


My sources.list file is:

deb http://www.uk.debian.org/debian slink non-US
deb http://debian.midco.net/debian slink main contrib non-free
deb http://master.debian.org/~vincent xfree-3.3.3.1/

Can anybody give any insight into why this is not working?

Thanks

Brian

> Brian Servis wrote:
> 
>> Does anybody have a working sources.list line for apt for the
>> unofficial X 3.3.3.1 debs at
>> http://master.debian.org/~vincent/xfree-3.3.3.1, if at all possible?
>>
>> I have tried several including,
>>
>> deb http://master.debian.org/~vincent xfree-3.3.3.1/
>>
>> and I think this one should work according to the apts docs but it fails
>> with the following error:
>>
>> Err http://master.debian.org xfree-3.3.3.1/ Packages
>>   404 Not Found
>> Ign http://master.debian.org xfree-3.3.3.1/ Release
>> W: Couldn't stat source package list 'http://master.debian.org 
>> xfree-3.3.3.1/ Packages' 
>> (/var/state/apt/lists/master.debian.org_%7evincent_xfree-3.3.3.1_Packages) - 
>> stat (2 No such file or directory)
>>
>> Which makes me think the archive isn't set up right for apt access.
>>

Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???

[Stefan Nobis]

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Hamish Moffatt
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Hamish> reason); the technology should allow users to send huge email
Hamish> attachments if they need to. Otherwise it should be fixed.

OK, but then the user should be prepared to pay for it!

And often people in the USA seems to forget that there are other
people in other countries that have to pay very much for the telephone 
connection like me here in germany. If someone sends me a big
attachment (i get it via UUCP, so i don't see how big it is before
it's on my system) i always feel a big wish to go to that person and
take the money for the download from him.

There are highspeed backbones where you can send videos in
realtime. Just go and ask for the price.

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Re: Partitioning help

[Per-Olof Widstrom]

> I am installing Debian and having problems partitioning the drive properly.
> During the bad block scan, it starts counting by '10' and is taking forever.
> Do I have my drive partitioned wrong?  Is the drive bad perhaps?  How should
> it be set in my bios?

 I'm not sure about this, but you might have virus varning enabled, check
your bios, if you have somthing like viruswarning enabled you better
disable that. 
 
 I had that enabled once when I installed win95, and it stoped, I thougt
that was normal for win95, so I tried 4 times before I checked the bios.

The virus warning is a real bad thing. You cant have a bootmanger that
changes the active partion, like bootmanager from IBM.

Well, I hope it works out for you.

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Re: kernel.org mirror[oops]

[Pierfrancesco Caci]

:-> "Chris" == Chris Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello everyone,
> Sorry about that last message, I had a little glitch with my 
> computer.  Anyway, my question has to do with mirroring.  We are 
> using slink's fmirror package to mirror "ftp.us.kernel.org".  We 
> realize that ftp.us.kernel.org often fowards ftp requests to other 
> servers.  Our problem is that these other servers have different 
> file times, and sometimes even completely different 
> directory trees.  Every time we run the fmirror script it says it 
> needs to redownload about 600 megs of stuff we already have.  It 
> sometimes even deletes directories that we want, even though we have 
> the "nodel: 1" option set in the config file.  Should we chose one of 
> the ftp sites that ftp.us.kernel.org fowards to and stick with that?  
> If so, which one is best?  Is there a bug in fmirror that causes it 
> to delete directories even though the nodel option is set?



the us mirrors are told to have some problems now, which are being
addressed. If you intend to frequently mirror the entire kernel.org
site, you'd better use rsync and maybe become yourself part of the
official mirror sites. More about this on the mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Pf


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what's this: *** SECURITY information for gusp.infogroup.it ***

[Pierfrancesco Caci]

I've found this in my mailbox today:

gusp.infogroup.it : Apr  1 10:10:10 : root : preposterous stampfile date; 
TTY=tty12 ; PWD=/home/jnos ; USER=jnos ; COMMAND=/home/jnos/jnos -f 
/home/jnos/etc/nos.cfg -C -g2 


What does it mean?
What package does generate it?

User jnos is a fictitious user for the amateur radio program "jnos",
which is run by root from inittab. 

Thanks

Pf


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Re: Re: Script to check whether modem telephone line in use --- how?

[David Wright]

Quoting Mark Phillips ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > On Wed, Mar 31, 1999 at 11:41:47PM -0600, Bud Rogers wrote:
> > > Mark Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > 
> > > > I hope this explains now why I was trying to write a script that would
> > > > actually allow me to hear what was on the phoneline, enabling me to
> > > > determine if my father was actually using it.  (At the moment the only
> > > > way is to physically go upstairs and check his computer/ask him.)
> > > 
> > > Put ABORT "NO DIALTONE" in your ppp chat script.
> > 
> > In my experience, the noise of the line being picked and up dropped
> > by the other modem will interfere with the session -- it will almost
> > certainly cause the modems to retrain, and may cause them to hang up.

That's not my experience with USR 33.6 modems and linux; the retraining,
yes; hanging up, no.

> When the situation is reversed (I am running ppp and my father started
> dialing under windows), if he stops the dialer quickly enough after
> hearing the noise on the line --- if he stops it before it starts
> dialing, he can usually get out without disrupting my ppp link.  I
> can't do this in linux because poff takes a while to stop things
> whereas under windows you can stop immediately.
> 
> The point then is, that in my experience, it might be possible to
> listen to the line without disrupting the other link.  The other
> evidence in favour of this is that I can pick up a normal phone,
> listen to the link, and then put it down again --- without disrupting
> the ppp link.  (Of course you have to keep quiet.)
> 
> Oh, and I tested out my idea for a script by using minicom.  First I
> did
>atm2
>OK
> but I couldn't hear anything.  Then I did
>ato
>ERROR
> and also tried
>ato0
>ERROR
> My guess is because I hadn't actually connected anywhere via the modem,
> I couldn't actually go online.  Anyway, I haven't been able to find a way
> to listen to the line.
> 
> Actually, perhaps I could try
>atd
> without actually specifying a number.  I wonder if this would work??

Presumably you need ATH1 to go off hook. The modem speaker is not
active otherwise.

> > Some sort of "line in use" indicator would be better.
> 
> I presume you mean a hardware "led indicator" or something like that?
> I could do that, though I'd prefer a software solution if there is
> one.  
> 
> (And I am also curious as to why the  ABORT "NO DIALTONE" doesn't seem
> to work --- I always thought it did abort, but just took its time
> about doing so --- ie only after it had dialed the number and waited
> a while.  But from what Bud Rogers has said, it would seem the abort
> should happen straight away.)

This is a modem issue. When confronted by so much whistling and warbling,
it probably doesn't know what to think. I guess that enough signal
emerging from a particular spectrum filter is enough to convince it of
a dial tone. After all, a (quite common) initial triple ringing tone
before the familiar double one (in the UK) is enough to make mine
think that the other end is busy, and there's nothing the software can
do about it.

Just a thought, but over here, a second line is quite cheap.

Cheers,

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Re: emacs and autosaving

[David Wright]

Quoting Peter Weiss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > On Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:28:10 +0100 (IST), Angus Claydon <[EMAIL 
> > PROTECTED]> said:
> Angus> IMHO  If there's one program that could firmly go into the Heinz 
> category
> Angus> (in
> Angus> terms of it being better because its harder to get out of the bottle)
> Angus> my vote would be  for emacs.
> 
> Angus> Is it possible to turn off the autosaving feature?
> Hi Angus,
>from my *Help* buffer:
> auto-save-default's value is 
> t
> Documentation:
> *Non-nil says by default do auto-saving of every file-visiting buffer.
> You can customize this variable.
>So putting a
>   (setq auto-save-default nil)
>in your .emacs file should turn this feature off.

You can also type  0 ^X ^S to prevent leaving a foobar~ file
when using emacs on ephemeral files (like this email).

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apac i740

[Shao Zhang]

Hi,
My friends has got an APAC i740 3D AGP with 8MB.
It seems to me that Xfree86 does not support this card.

Has anyone been successful with this card?

thx.


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Re: /etc/lynx.cfg -> ~/.lynxrc

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Thu, Apr 01, 1999 at 01:16:30PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hamish Moffatt dixit:
> 
> > You could alias lynx to "/usr/bin/lynx -cfg=$HOME/.lynxrc" in .bash_profile.
> 
> That sounds like it, thanks.
> 
> > It might be better to rename lynx and create a wrapper script which adds
> > this option. Perhaps you could add the wrapper script in /usr/local/bin
> > and put that before /usr/bin in the users' path?
> 
> uh... how do I do that?

Make a script called /usr/local/bin/lynx, which just says

#!/bin/sh
/usr/bin/lynx -cfg=$HOME/.lynxrc

Edit /etc/profile to have /usr/local/bin first; my /etc/profile says:
PATH="/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games"

> > I'm curious: what's the advantage of per-user lynx configuration files?
> Different start default URL's, aliases, external applications, ... also
> different colour configuration ... in general, as any other program's user
> config file.  Does it sound like nonsense?

No not at all -- I was just curious. Sounds sensible enough. 


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elm filter?

[E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)]

Hi all,

I am receiving mail on a SGI system, that has no procmail, but the elm
filter program.  I would like to use the same thing on debian, but I
cannot seem to find it.  Is it anywhere available in slink?

Thanks,
Eric

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Re: /etc/lynx.cfg -> ~/.lynxrc

[homega]

Hamish Moffatt dixit:

> You could alias lynx to "/usr/bin/lynx -cfg=$HOME/.lynxrc" in .bash_profile.

That sounds like it, thanks.

> It might be better to rename lynx and create a wrapper script which adds
> this option. Perhaps you could add the wrapper script in /usr/local/bin
> and put that before /usr/bin in the users' path?

uh... how do I do that?

> I'm curious: what's the advantage of per-user lynx configuration files?

Different start default URL's, aliases, external applications, ... also
different colour configuration ... in general, as any other program's user
config file.  Does it sound like nonsense?

Thanks,

Horacio.
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Re: /etc/lynx.cfg -> ~/.lynxrc

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Thu, Apr 01, 1999 at 12:10:44PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hamish Moffatt dixit:
> > On Wed, Mar 31, 1999 at 05:14:57PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > how can I have lynx to use each home user's configuration file instead of
> > > /etc/lynx.cfg?  I mean to default to:
> > > 
> > > $ lynx -cfg=~/.lynxrc
> > 
> > Any files in /etc/skel get copied to any new user accounts you create,
> > but not for existing users.
> 
> I see, but even if I create a /etc/skel/.lynxrc file and then a new user,
> lynx won't even try to read the new user's ~/.lynxrc, but /etc/lynx.cfg.
> I did create a ~/.lynxrc from /etc/lynx.cfg (and even removed the latest),
> but lynx does default to /etc ...
> 
> P.S.  `lynx -cfg=~/.lynxrc' on the command line works fine, how can I add
> that to the .bash_profile?

You could alias lynx to "/usr/bin/lynx -cfg=$HOME/.lynxrc" in .bash_profile.
It might be better to rename lynx and create a wrapper script which adds
this option. Perhaps you could add the wrapper script in /usr/local/bin
and put that before /usr/bin in the users' path?

I'm curious: what's the advantage of per-user lynx configuration files?


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Re: Script to check whether modem telephone line in use --- how?

[Carl Johnson]

John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Mark Phillips wrote:
> > This morning I typed "pon" to dial up a ppp connection, only to hear
> > noise on my modem to idicate that the line was already in use.  I
> > quickly typed "poff", but it was too late --- I had already killed my
> > father's connection to the internet.  He was not pleased as I had
> > killed his connection near the end of an 8M download.
> 
> Brian Servis writes:
> > I think the best way is to get a 'line in use indicator' box that plugs
> > into the phone line.
> 
> or better yet, fix pon so it won't do this.  I'll look into it.

You might want to look into the 'connect' program from
'http://www.caesium.fr/freeware/connect/'.  It tracks multiple connect
attempts so none trample over each other.  I have been using it for
several months now.

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Kensington Scroll Mouse

[Shawn Nguyen]

Hi,

I've got a kensington scroll mouse and was wondering if there's anyway
to get it to work at all in X?  If not, is there a mouse out there that
I could buy which would let me use that feature on it in X?  I guess I
am too used to using the scroll mouse and I find it a little more than
irksome to keep having to manually scroll through web pages and such.  I
guess my laziness has got the better of me.  Thanks for any advice at
all.

Shawn

Re: /etc/lynx.cfg -> ~/.lynxrc

[homega]

Hamish Moffatt dixit:
> On Wed, Mar 31, 1999 at 05:14:57PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > how can I have lynx to use each home user's configuration file instead of
> > /etc/lynx.cfg?  I mean to default to:
> > 
> > $ lynx -cfg=~/.lynxrc
> 
> Any files in /etc/skel get copied to any new user accounts you create,
> but not for existing users.

I see, but even if I create a /etc/skel/.lynxrc file and then a new user,
lynx won't even try to read the new user's ~/.lynxrc, but /etc/lynx.cfg.
I did create a ~/.lynxrc from /etc/lynx.cfg (and even removed the latest),
but lynx does default to /etc ...

P.S.  `lynx -cfg=~/.lynxrc' on the command line works fine, how can I add
that to the .bash_profile?

Regards,

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Re: /etc/lynx.cfg -> ~/.lynxrc

[homega]

Laurent PICOULEAU dixit:

> > how can I have lynx to use each home user's configuration file instead of
> > /etc/lynx.cfg?  I mean to default to:
> > 
> > $ lynx -cfg=~/.lynxrc
> >
> Why not do it with an alias ? 

Already thought of that, but hoped for a more "standard" solution.  I wonder
if I remove /etc/lynx.cfg lynx will look for ~/.lynxrc or ~/lynx.cfg ...

Configuration file /etc/lynx.cfg is not available.

Well, it didn't work.  Can I state in the user's .bash_profile to look for
~/.lynxrc instead of the default /etc/lynx.cfg somehow?

Regards,

Horacio.
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[Shawn Nguyen]

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I just have a question.  I used the SVGA server but X frozed on me.  Do
I have to set that line down below in order for it to not freeze?  The
weird thing is that when I use the S3 server it doesn't freeze X, it
only freezes StarOffice.  So I went back to my S3 server.  Also, I
discovered that using the SVGA server I could only use 8bpp color in X. 
Meanwhile I am using 32bpp in my S3 server, is this correct if you use
SVGA???  If so, I don't know that I would want to use SVGA since it
deprecate my color by so much.  In the meantime I am able to use
StarOffice, however, I can't use mail, that's all that's wrong with it. 
I can use everything else as far as I can tell anyway.  Maybe I should
try their fix.  Has anyone experienced anything weird when using this
fix with their S3 server???  Any advice would be appreciated.

Shawn



Daniel Mashao wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Shawn Nguyen wrote:
> 
> > I am using an S3 graphics card.  I guess I'm out of luck huh?  Thanks for
> > the info though even though I find it kind of strange that that would be
> > the case.  I guess I should do some research to see if there's any kind of
> > fix for this problem.
> No you are not out of luck. There are two things you can do. Both of them
> easy.
> 
> 1. Use the SVGA drivers instead of the S3 drivers for X11.
> 
> 2. (The simplest) Define a variable in your start-up files eg. .tcshrc of
> .bashrc.
> 
> setenv  SAL_DO_NOT_USE_INVERT50 true
> 
> or
> 
> export SAL_DO_NOT_USE_INVERT50=true
> 
> and everything will be fine. How do I know, because they mentioned this
> some where in their installation documentation and I too have an S3 Virge
> card.
> You will love this Star Office its faster and better than 4.0 and now I
> feel like I want to buy a copy. With 4.0 I felt like it was so useless I
> was glad I did not cough up some money for it, but I am going to buy the
> Windows version just so I can get my hand on their manuals.
> 
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Re: [OffTopic] OSS word processor projects?

[Frank Barknecht]

Daniel Mashao hat gesagt: // Daniel Mashao wrote:

> On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Ed Cogburn wrote:
> > I know about PW (Pathetic Writer which is part of SIAG) and
> > AbiWord (a GTK project), but I'm curious to know if there are any
> > other WP projects in existence out there, especially if one of the
> > goals is being able to read and write MS Word files.
> StarOffice is the closest you will get to MS look and feel. And then there
> is another editir that can read MS RTF format perfectly, I forgot its name
> now.

This might be ted, that wants to be a kind of Wordpad/Write for XWin.
Debian package is in potato. 

I tried it but I hated it and I deinstalled it. It reads RTF really good,
though, but I did not found an "Undo" function. Maybe its hidden somewhere,
I didn't search for long. An editor without Undo is rubbish.
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