Re: lost+found
'As 9:40 de 8 May 99, Gleydson enviou o texto que respondo abaixo. Ola'! (...) Aconteceu que, da última vez utilizei o comando fsck.ext2 com a opção -f. Ele encontrou vários problemas com o sistema de arquivos e todos eles foram corrigidos para o diretório lost+found. Para minha surpresa, após reiniciar o sistema, havia perdido todos os sub-diretórios de /usr, /bin, /home e outros 2. Entrando em lost+found, verifiquei que lá existiam diversos sub diretórios no formato #100125 (que se não me engano são os inodos do disco), usando o ls nome do diretório, conseguia verificar outros diretórios dentro dele seguindo o mesmo formato #123456. Mas não conseguia utilizar o comando cd para entrar neste diretório e verificar seu conteúdo. Acho que o mesmo acontecia com o mv. (...) Nao tenho dicas de como encontrar os nomes verdadeiros dos arquivos, mas me lembro que, na epoca em que trabalhava com manutencao de microcomputadores, muitas motherboards made-in-somewhere tinham o pessimo comportamento de, vez por outra, gravar dados em lugares errados nos HDs (ou talvez nao gravar, nao sei dizer) quando o acesso ao disco do sistema operacional estava funcionando em modo 32 bits (ie., Windows for Workgroups, Windows 95 etc.) e a motherboard tambem estava com os recursos de 32 bits para os HDs habilitados. Entao, vez por outra um arquivo era corrompido um pouco, e chegava uma hora em que uma parte da FAT era sobrescrita, resultando na perda de um numero consideravel de arquivos. Eu solucionava o problema desabilitando os recursos 32 bits na BIOS. Ou seja, colocava os HDs no modo mais lento e arcaico possivel, mas resolvia: 32-bit Mode: OFF, Block Access: OFF, PIO Mode: 0 (zero) e assim por diante. Tente isso, e talvez seu sistema funcione sem falhas. Nao e' preciso dizer que, se o problema for *esse*, uma troca de motherboard seria um bom investimento. E, se vc fizer isso, aceite uma sugestao: nunca, mas nunca mesmo, compre qualquer motherboard que tenha x-pro no nome. Elas sao baratas e sao facilmente encontradas em qualquer loja que trabalhe com produtos paraguaios ou, como costumava dizer meu honesto ex-chefe para os incautos e credulos cliente: de Miami, mas os problemas e o pessimo desempenho nao compensam a economia. Garanto-lhe que e' uma precaucao muito sensata... :-) Talvez o kernel tenha algum tipo de solucao para esses problemas, mas ai' ja' esta' alem de meu limitados conhecimentos. Ate'! []'s Alexander Gieg Alexander GiegSao Paulo / Brazil [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 2200285 http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/3222/ Nick: AlexG Amados, nao deis credito a qualquer Espirito: antes, provai os Espiritos se procedem de Deus. (1 Joao 4:1) - Leia: O Livro dos Espiritos, de Allan Kardec
Re: lost+found
Bom, o que eu posso falar para vc é que pode ter ocorrido algum problema logo na parte de particionamento do disco. Eu tive um problema desse tipo há alguns anos (hehe :) quando a minha partição de swap, por algum motivo alheio ao meu conhecimento, se apresentava maior do que realmente era. Com isso, quando o swap enchia, ele invadia a partição do linux e alguns arquivos eram destruídos. O que vc não deve fazer é rodar o e2fsck -f com a partição montada com permissão de escrita. Teve uma outra vez que eu tive problemas no sistema de arquivos do linux. Certo dia durante uma sessão de NT :), eu testei o suporte de escrita na partição do Linux de um programa chamado Explore2fs. Infelizmente ele danificou algumas coisas e o e2fsck encontrou alguns erros que foram facilmente corrigidos. []'s Gleydson wrote: Ola, fiz há pouco tempo a instalação da Slink 2.1 para testes, e ontem ocorreu um problema com o sistema de arquivos da partição principal: Certas vezes quando iniciava a Debian, aparecia uma mensagem que o sistema não conseguia rodar o INIT e era mostrado o aviso de login do root. Só que a senha não era reconhecida. Após pressionar CTRlALTDEL, o sistema entrava em modo de manutenção, e assim era me pedida a senha do root e assim conseguia entrar no sistema. Assim eu podia rodar o fsck.ext2 e verificar o sistema de arquivos. Só que reiniciando o computador, o Linux reconhecia normalmente todos os sistemas de arquivos. As vezes mostrava estes erros, as vezes não. Aconteceu que, da última vez utilizei o comando fsck.ext2 com a opção -f. Ele encontrou vários problemas com o sistema de arquivos e todos eles foram corrigidos para o diretório lost+found. Para minha surpresa, após reiniciar o sistema, havia perdido todos os sub-diretórios de /usr, /bin, /home e outros 2. Entrando em lost+found, verifiquei que lá existiam diversos sub diretórios no formato #100125 (que se não me engano são os inodos do disco), usando o ls nome do diretório, conseguia verificar outros diretórios dentro dele seguindo o mesmo formato #123456. Mas não conseguia utilizar o comando cd para entrar neste diretório e verificar seu conteúdo. Acho que o mesmo acontecia com o mv. Não se preocupem porque fiz esta instalação como teste e não perdi nenhum arquivo pessoal pois tinha cópias de segurança, a partição já foi até excluída, e estou fazendo a nova instalação do sistema. Mas nunca tinha visto uma destruição no sistema de arqivos como esta. Antes o sistema funcionava normalmente (mesmo tendo algum problema algumas vezes que inicializava) e após utilizar o fsck.ext2 perder diversos diretórios que estavam funcionando? Alguém da lista sabe como recuperar um sistema de arquivos intactos após um problema como este? Pode-se confiar no utilitário fsck.ext2 durante um problema com o sistema de arquivos? E como restaurar, e como adivinhar quais são os nomes dos diretórios dentro de lost+found (os diretórios principais como /usr, /home, /bin é simples, mas dentro de /usr/doc por exemplo, existem diversos documentos e arquivos que dificilmente podem ser lembrados). Sinceramente, nunca tive uma perda como esta sem explicação utilizando o DOS/NDD. Alguém tem uma sugestão para uma melhor correção deste problema, caso venha a acontecer futuramente ou com qualquer pessoa da lista? Espero sugestões
Re: debian-user-digest Digest V99 #824
Andre wrote:
3) Why does debian say 'only the root can do that' when I type the line below:
$ mount /dev/fd0 (or any other floppy drive)
I've been following this thread, and I haven't noticed this answered
completely yet.
I have the following lines in /etc/fstab:
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# file system mount point type options dump pass
/dev/hda2 / ext2defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
/dev/hda4 none swapsw 0 0
proc/proc procdefaults 0 0
/dev/hda3 /usr ext2defaults 0 2
/dev/hdc1 /var ext2defaults 0 2
/dev/hdc2 /home ext2defaults 0 2
/dev/hdc3 /tmp ext2defaults 0 2
/dev/hdb/mnt/cdromiso9660 noauto,ro,user 0 0
/dev/fd0/mnt/floppy vfatnoauto,rw,user 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/win95vfatnoauto,rw,user 0 0
Note the entries for /dev/hdb (cdrom), /dev/fd0 (1st floppy drive), and
/dev/hda1 (Windows partition)(yeah, I know. my wife insists).
This states that (as an example) /dev/fd0 is to be mounted at /mnt/floppy, is
a vfat file system (I don't think vfat is supported by the default kernel-u
might use msdos instead), is not to be auto mounted at system boot (might not
be any- thing there!), is mounted read/write, and is mountable by any user.
Hope this helps.
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Re: xwin
On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 10:06:29PM +0200, J Horacio M G wrote: Sorry to take back on an old issue. Since Ctrl+Alt+Fn can switch from X to almost any V.C., and supposing you can then take on any task under the command line, I'm seeing no real point in removing xdm or preventing it from starting the x server on startup. But still, if I wanted to exit X... how do I do it? The exit menus in WM take me back to the X login prompt, they don't take me to the command prompt as they used to do in 2.0. If you want to switch away from the running X server managed by xdm, use CTRL-ALT-Fn as you said. If you want to stop xdm from managing the current server, press CTRL-R at the xdm login screen. If you want xdm to stop running, become root and use its init script to tell it to stop (/etc/init.d/xdm stop). -- G. Branden Robinson | Debian GNU/Linux |The software said it required Windows [EMAIL PROTECTED] |3.1 or better, so I installed Linux. cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | pgpjtJLHdKoBg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: X works, but no mouse?
On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 03:33:30PM -0500, Brent Metzler wrote: I noticed no one else replied to this, so I'll give it a stab. I had a similar problem with the mouse. The problem seemed to be caused by running gpm, the command-line mouse proggie, before X. This apparently causes conflicts that X cannot handle. when I killed gpm, the mouse seemed to work fine in X. This is only true for some people. For instance, when I switch between X and a virtual console, up to a couple of dozen gpm: error in protocol messages get spewed to the system longs but that's it. The mouse continues to work. For some folks, things are worse and they lose control of the mouse. Setting up gpm as a repeater with the -R option having the XF86Config use /dev/gpmdata as its mouse device is almost always the solution to these kinds of mouse problems. The gpm documentation has more about this. -- G. Branden Robinson | The only way to get rid of a temptation Debian GNU/Linux | is to yield to it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Oscar Wilde cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | pgpyxXqpwQKlu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: xset - global settings
On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 12:45:44AM -0400, Arcady Genkin wrote: Problem: I would like to go a step further and set this feature to work even wiht graphical login screen. So that if I boot up my computer, but don't want to login, the screen would be blanked after certain time. Which script do I put the setting in? man setterm If you want this to happen no matter what when booting, you might consider editing /etc/rc.boot/kbd to include the appropriate setterm command(s). -- G. Branden Robinson | I came, I saw, she conquered. The Debian GNU/Linux | original Latin seems to have been [EMAIL PROTECTED] | garbled. cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | -- Robert Heinlein pgpQLtiKX2mrE.pgp Description: PGP signature
printer stoped working after upgrade to potato
I upgraded my computer from slink to potato and it wont print anymore. Under slink it printed ok (terible quality, but its a dot matrix :( ) Only reson i can think about is the lines when it loads the modules: lp: no IEEE1284 device found lp using parport0 (polling) from lpq i get a message: status: cannot open '/dev/lp1' - 'device not configures' _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
changing resolve.conf for deferent providers
Is it posible to make the use of deferent resolve.conf for deferent providers automatic? ie: pon provider1 will use resolve.conf.provider1 pon provider2 will use resolve.conf.provider2 I've checked, and i do need different resolve.conf (deferent dns numbers and a search line). Thanx _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
hebrew keboard mapping and XKEYBOARD (writing hebrew letters)
I need the ability to write hebrew letters under aplications (such as netscape). it doesn't neceserily need to be in the right direction. under hebrew vim i can write hebrew without a problem. I tried to remap the keboard in order to use hebrew letters under xterm and netscape etc. The problem is that I can't find how to make scroll lock perform as mode-lock (mode lock doesn't exist). Also after remaping when i try to print the hebrew letters it just does nothing (doesn't print anything) while on unmaped letters i get the letter while pressing mode-switch, and on letters that were remaped to english letters i get the remaped letter. I am using a hebrew font. Any idea's ? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Boot sticks on Parallelizing fsck...
The other night, the power went out, and after it came back on, Debian 2.2
hangs on boot. I don't know wether my problem is related to that or the
kernel compile as listed below, but it sits forever on the line:
Parallelizing fsck version 1.14 (9-Jan-1999).
When I do a Ctrl-C, it mounts the root filesystem (/dev/hda3) as read-only,
which gives tons of errors and prevents me from logining in ('unable to
chane to ttyx for users foo').
I had some Debian 2.0 CD's around, so I installed that onto an unused
partition /dev/hda4. I ran e2fsck on /dev/hda3, and it fixed several screen
fulls of errors.
Before the power went out, I was experementing, trying to get my IDE cdrom
to work as an ide device, and to get my ide atapi HP 7200i CDRW to work as a
scsi-emulation device, as suggested by a posting in the linux-kernel
archives. This requires a special append=.. line in /etc/lilo.conf.
Perhaps something went wrong with the compile, so I tried the following:
1.I booted of the Hamm cd, and did a linux root=/dev/hda3
2.copied the kernel 2.0.33 to my win98 partition, and used loadln
But had the same problem as described above.
Any Ideas so that fsck runs properly, and /dev/hda4 will mount read/write?
From hamm install on /dev/hda4, I could mount hda3 read/write.
Thanks,
wim.
networksetup problems
Reply-To: A friend and I are trying to setup up a network of SuSE machines (they're his) We have the ethernet cards setup and responding, we think we have picked the right addresses (class C), netmask, etc. However we think the routing is our problem, they all know they're IP addresses but we still can't get the machines to talk to one another. Do any of you know of a url which offers good guidance on setting up route service. I should mention that the hub is responding to pings etc. but the machines aren't sending the packets back. While we have fair skills with Linux, our networking skills suck. If anyone can point us in the right direction for info we need, it would be greatly appreciated. Ben p.s. I should note that we have been reading the hell out all man/info.gz docs, as well as how-to's. -- Absence diminishes mediocre passions and increases great ones, as the wind blows out candles and fans fires. -- La Rochefoucauld
2 network cards
I have two network cards (1 Intel etherexpress 16, 1 NE2000) in a debian system. Both are detected on boot up and both are ifconfig'd. This system will be used to connect my little LAN through IP masq to the Internet. For various reasons, I am only able to have 1 IP, so that is why I am messing around with all this. My problem is that I can not ping another machine on my internal LAN from the linux box. The internal LAN is numbered 192.168.1.x (with the linux box being .1 and the one I am trying to ping .3) eth0 is my external card and eth1 is the internal one. If I set up a route for the internal lan (route add -net 192.168.1.0 eth1) I can ping 192.168.1.1 (itself), but get a ping: sendto: Operation not permitted when trying to ping another machine on the internal lan. Any ideas? I have tried pinging the linux box from the other machine (which runs Win98). I get both activity lights going like they should on the hub and on a card from each computer, so the connection is there. Thanks in advance. Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Any sufficiently advanced form of technology is indistinguishable from magic.
make-kpkg and an error message
okay, thanks for all the other help, now when I type this make-kpkg --revision=test1 kernel_image the kernel compiles it's little heart out ..until.. **Error Message** /tmp/ccc05362: In function 'main': /tmp/ccc05362(.text+0x42b): undefined reference to '__bzero' make[2]: *** [tools/build] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/kernel-source- 2.2.5/arch/i386/boot' make[1]: ***[bzImage] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.5' make: *** [build] Error 2 **End Error Message** Any ideas on this one? I don't have the directory linux in /usr/src, I've just untarred the source into kernel-source-2.2.5 Would this make a difference at all? Any ideas? Jayson S. Baird Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter -- Yoda [EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Russian: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Apt still not working
Curiouser and curiouser - the files http.us.debian.org_debian_stable_main_binary-i386_Packages http.us.debian.org_debian_stable_non-free_binary-i386_Packages in /var/state/apt/lists are identical (and contain what non-free should contain). I can delete the files and run apt-get update, and the same wrong information comes back. I'm beginning to think the unthinkable... could http.us.debian.org be *wrong*? Stuart. On Sat, 8 May 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After some poking around in /var/lib/dpkg/available, etc, I have been able to narrow down the problem to the following: apt is only registering the availability of contrib and non-free, but not main. All the entries in available have either Section: contrib/xxx or Section: non-free/xxx. The procedure I went through during install is as follows (maybe I missed some step that should have been obvious...) Boot from first CD, go through install procedure, etc. Select tasks. Go into dselect in the install procedure. Choose multi-cd as the method. Select the paths. Update list of packages. Skip the select page, and go straight to install. Answer all the packages questions. Do the configure and remove steps, just in case. Quit dselect. Use the system (it works fine at this point - all the packages are there) do apt-get update - appears to work fine do apt-get install (anything in main) no installation candidate do apt-get install (anything in contrib/non-free) [usually] unmet dependencies Going into dselect and changing the method to apt acquisition makes no difference. Changing the sources.list lines to say unstable instead of stable also makes no difference. Here are the exact lines from sources.list on one of the computers: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US Thank you in advance for any help, Stuart. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: changing resolve.conf for deferent providers
Micha Feigin writes:
Is it posible to make the use of deferent resolve.conf for deferent
providers automatic?
You need to put a script in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d that replaces /etc/resolv.conf
with the one appropriate to the current provider, and another in
/etc/ppp/ip-down to restore resolv.conf.
Here are some scripts and replacement pon to try. You will need to create
/etc/ppp/resolv and put a resolv.conf in it for each provider. A future
version of pppconfig will set all of this up.
--
#!/bin/sh
# 0dns-up by John Hasler 4 Apr 1999. You may treat this program as if it
# was in the public domain.
# 0dns-up sets up /etc/resolv.conf for the provider being connected to. In
# conjunction with pppd's usepeerdns option it also handles dynamic dns.
# It expects to be passed the provider name in $6.
PROVIDER=$6
ETC=/etc
PPPRESOLV=/etc/ppp/resolv
TEMPRESOLV=$ETC/resolv.conf.ppp.temp$$
RESOLVBAK=$ETC/resolv.conf.ppp.bak
RESOLVCONF=$ETC/resolv.conf
# We can do nothing if we have not been passed a provider name via ipparam
# or there is no resolv file for the provider. We better not do anything
# if resolv.conf.bak already exists.
[ -f $PPPRESOLV/$PROVIDER ] [ ! -f $RESOLVBAK ] || ( echo failed; exit
0 )
# USEPEERDNS, DNS1, and DNS2 are variables exported by pppd. Do we have
# usepeerdns and a couple of nameservers? If so, put a couple of
# nameserver lines in a temp file.
if [ $USEPEERDNS ] [ $DNS1 ] [ $DNS2 ] ; then
echo -e nameserver $DNS1 \nnameserver $DNS2 $TEMPRESOLV
fi
# Append the resolv.conf for this provider to the temp file. If we are
# using dynamic dns it will be empty or contain any resolver options the
# user added. Otherwise it will be a complete resolv.conf for this
# provider.
cat $PPPRESOLV/$PROVIDER $TEMPRESOLV
# Back up resolv.conf.
cp $RESOLVCONF $RESOLVBAK
# And replace it with the new resolv.conf from the temp file.
mv $TEMPRESOLV $RESOLVCONF
---
#!/bin/sh
# 0dns-down by John Hasler 4 Apr 1999. You may treat this program as if it
# was in the public domain.
# 0dns-down takes down what 0dns_up sets up.
ETC=/etc
RESOLVBAK=$ETC/resolv.conf.ppp.bak
RESOLVCONF=$ETC/resolv.conf
[ $RESOLVBAK ] mv $RESOLVBAK $RESOLVCONF
#!/bin/sh
/usr/sbin/pppd call ${1:-provider} ipparam ${1:-provider}
-
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Re: [Debian]: Linux-Zeitschriften [was: lilo.conf, KDE-Dateimanger und das I-Net]
Christoph Lange schrieb: vorsichtwerbung Guckt mal bei http://www.cul.de/freex/ vorbei (da bin ich webmaster). Die zeitschrift freeX beschaftigt sich mit allen freien Unix-systemen, d.h. auch mit den freien BSDs und den freien privatanwender-versionen von SCO und Solaris. Der schwerpunkt liegt aber auf Linux. Jede ausgabe enthalt eine CD mit einem freien Unix; in der nachsten ausgabe (25. Mai) ist das FreeBSD 3.1. /vorsichtwerbung Hallo Christoph, ich habe einmal die Seite von freeX besucht und mir den angebotenen Inhalt einer Ausgabe heruntergeladen. Es waren 461 kB. Als ich es auf meinem Rechner ansah da waren es lediglich 2 Seiten des Inhaltsverzeichnisses. Andere Linux-Zeitschriften bringen mit vergleichbarer Dateigrösse eine ganze Monatsausgabe mit etlichen Seiten ins Netz. Auch habe ich noch in Erinnerung, daß das ganze Linuxhandbuch von LunetiX (ca. 500 Seiten) etwas über 700 kB benötigt. Das ist mir bei der Seite auf der Du webmaster bist aufgefallen. Bernd Mayer
Apps For Debian?
As I am a new user of Debian I have a couiple of Questions as to what apps to get . I am not a couplete newbie but am still very new ( I know how to use gzip and tar and can do most basic functions of a *nix system) Here is my dilema after searching though several different dists I have come to the conclusion that debian wins. Now I have a minimally configured box running WindowMaker and I need to find Replacement apps for my windows junk. Specificaly a Word Replacement ( I tried WordPerfect but the install blew up at the end) There doesn't seen to be a .deb package available for it for some reason in spike of the aliance between debian and corel (same is true for KDE but i like WindowMaker better anyway). Any Ideas? Also need something that will make .gifs (Gimp doesn't seem to do this) I need a good HTML code editor for debian (Been thinking I may just program macros in emacs but I don't realy want to) On a side note I will be needing a Database to connect a website to fairly soon. Any suggestions (I am leaning towards mySQL but I would like a GUI interface to work in if possiable) P.S on a happy note I got Netscape to work Finaly! and TinTin++ rocks (please include it in a furture debian release. They are working on it again finally and I would love to be able to apt-get it as they improve it. Version 2 coming soom:)
ICQ Woes
THe Java Portion Of ICQ did not install correctly any I deas how I get this to work ?
defrag, non-contiguous file system
Each time my system runs fsck on reboot (when the disk reaches it's mount count limit) the file system appears more fragmented. On the last fsck run it reported 5.7% non-contiguous. Is this a problem and if so what should I do? === Amateur Radio, when all else fails! http://www.qsl.net/wa2mze Debian Gnu Linux, Live Free or . _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: slink and netscape/mozilla
It's even less clear cut than that. While in Netscape enter the following URL about:mozilla Don't forget that Netscape was Mozilla before it was Netscape. Mozilla comes again. On 6 May 99, at 10:23, Jerry Gardner wrote about Re: slink and netscape/mozilla: Ray writes: Netscape and Mozilla are DIFFERENT things. Netscape is release level software and for most of us works fairly well (aside from being a memory The difference isn't as clear-cut as you may think. Every version of Netscape that I've ever used (and this goes back to prior to v1.0) has a readme file that has this in it: * And remember, it's spelled N-e-t-s-c-a-p-e, but it's pronounced Mozilla. Although not as common as it used to be, Netscape is sometimes called Mozilla. -- Jerry Gardner | Bill Clinton has all the steely resolve resolve [EMAIL PROTECTED] | of a kamakaze pilot on his 37th mission. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null == Jan M.- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fingerprint:397D 093C E802 964E 5316 B90A 93CE 6696 Thought for the day: Thoughts reduced to paper are generally nothing more than the footprints of a man walking in the sand. It is true that we see the path he has taken; but to know what he saw on the way, we must use our own eyes. -- Arthur Schopenhauer
Re: Q: multi-cd method.
Actually, you need to insert the second or last CD of your multi-cd archive first if you have more than one cd.. I don't know why but from the Debian Installation Manual that's the correct way to roll.. On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 09:55:48PM +0200, Tony Schonfeld wrote: hello , i've just upgrade hamm to slink at home and want to know if i'm using the correct method. I think it's necessary after the correct multi-cd choice, to insert each CD set and take a UPDATE action. Before the next release No database UPDATE in Deselect is required now. I can now select all packages need and install it. Please tell me if i'm ok or not. Many thanks , Tony Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.f5git.ampr.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://schonfeld.home.dhs.org Hamnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Phone:(33) 0610104815 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Data/Fax: (33) 0476932598 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null pgpcCry9MGrzz.pgp Description: PGP signature
partition problem
hi, I'm having trouble installing linux on my pc. I ran the install.bat and setup the monitor and screen. Then it asked to partition my hard drive. I selected ok but it came up with an error and returned to the main menu. I have a compaq deskpro pc with a 1.2 gb hard drive. I partitioned it into 3 drives(500mb, 500mb, 200) Do you know what I may be doing wrong? Any help is greatly appreciated. Regards, Chris ham
PS/2 router with MCA nic
Can linux recognize a micro-channel nic? I know how to setup the kernel to recognize an ISA/PCI nic, but does linux support mca cards? If so, how would I configure the kernel to recognize the mca card? Would I treat it just like an ISA card? TIA. Rob === [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Role-Player, Babylon 5 fanatic 1998-99 Aka Khyron the Backstabber : ICQ# 2325055 Homepage: www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/ratirh Happiness comes in short spurts. Don't be fooled. ===
Re: PS/2 router with MCA nic
The kernel does do MCA... Just choose the option when you're compiling. I know the 3c523 and 3c527 boards are listed as options also. Dunno about any other MCA boards. On Sat, 8 May 1999, Robert Rati wrote: Can linux recognize a micro-channel nic? I know how to setup the kernel to recognize an ISA/PCI nic, but does linux support mca cards? If so, how would I configure the kernel to recognize the mca card? Would I treat it just like an ISA card? TIA. Rob === [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Role-Player, Babylon 5 fanatic 1998-99 Aka Khyron the Backstabber : ICQ# 2325055 Homepage: www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/ratirh Happiness comes in short spurts. Don't be fooled. === -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
dhcp
I'm having problems with dhcpd. For somereason no matter what I change dhcp sets my hostname to dhcpc1 or something. I've changed it in the hostinfo-eth0 file to be a different name i've change /etc/hosts. I'm don't know where dhcp is getting this hostname and if there is a way to fix it? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
(KLUDGED) Re: home compiled sysutils has broken dependency
On Thu, 6 May 1999, Robert King wrote: Hi All, I compiled sysutils myself because procinfo complains that it needs to be compiled to display all IRQs. I unpacked the debian source file and used debian/rules binary to make a binary. When I installed the .deb using dpkg (which happens without complaint and the programs work), apt-get starts complaining about broken dependencies. What am I doing wrong? I've kludged a work-around for this (by breaking apt-get), and record it on the list for others trying the same thing. Perhaps someone else has a better idea - if so, please share it. My problem was that I was using the latest sysutils (1.3.4), which is in potato and compiled against glibc 2.1 I'm still running a mostly slink based system, because I've been scared off by the horror stories about how unstable unstable is at the moment. So when I compiled sysutils 1.3.4, I did so against libc6 2.0.7.19981211, so everything works fine, but because it's called sysutils 1.3.4, apt-get expects it to depend on libc6 (= 2.1), libncurses4 (= 4.2-3.1). My work-arounds is either 1) change the sources.list for apt back to stable until I bite the bullet to use glibc2.1 2) hack /var/state/apt/lists/ftp.mirror.aarnet.edu.au_pub_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages to show a dependency on the versions of libc6 and libncurses4 that I have. Any other ideas? (I'm not using sysutils 1.3.2 from slink because procinfo in it doesn't work with 2.2 kernels. I'm assuming that it is this problem that gives me the clock skew warnings when I try to build it, and not my machine preparing to die) solzhenitsyn:~king/Linux/deb# apt-get check Updating package file cache...done Updating package status cache...done Checking system integrity...dependency error You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these. Sorry, but the following packages are broken - this means they have unmet dependencies: sysutils: Depends:libc6 Depends:libncurses4 solzhenitsyn:~king/Linux/deb# dpkg -l sysutils perl libncurses4 libc6 Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ NameVersionDescription +++-===-==- ii sysutils1.3.4 Miscellaneous small system utilities. ii perl5.004.04-6 Larry Wall's Practical Extracting and Report ii libncurses4 4.2-3 Shared libraries for terminal handling ii libc6 2.0.7.19981211 GNU Libc: shared libraries Robert King, Australian Environmental Studies, Griffith University, Australia 3875 6677 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ens.gu.edu.au/robertk/ When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up. C. S. Lewis, On Three Ways of Writing for Children
Re: Apps For Debian?
On Sat, 8 May 1999, Lawrence Wickline wrote: As I am a new user of Debian I have a couiple of Questions as to what apps to get . I am not a couplete newbie but am still very new ( I know how to use gzip and tar and can do most basic functions of a *nix system) Here is my dilema after searching though several different dists I have come to the conclusion that debian wins. I always suggest it to people who are looking at installing linux. I myself have tried Debian, Slackware, and RedHat, and well, Debian Wins hands down for me. Now I have a minimally configured box running WindowMaker and I need to find Replacement apps for my windows junk. Specificaly a Word Replacement ( I tried WordPerfect but the install blew up at the end) There doesn't seen to be a .deb package available for it for some reason in spike of the aliance between debian and corel (same is true for KDE but i like WindowMaker better anyway). Any Ideas? There are a number of different Word Proccessing Packages out there, seeing as you've tried Word Perfect, I'll skip that one (grin). If you just want to use basic word Processing, I would suggest Emacs (you have to install it for a few packages, so why not get some use out of it? BTW - I myself don't like Emacs, so here's another option. You could try (if you've the HDD space), Staroffice. It's pretty good, and it'll read a large variety of formats, only problem - it's 120+ Megabytes of harddrive space used... Not as much of a problem as it might seem, but it is VERY big in reference to most Linux Software. There are many others, but I haven't tried them.. I myself decided to switch from Windows, and Star Office suited my right down to the ground... Also need something that will make .gifs (Gimp doesn't seem to do this) Haven't found one yet myself... I wouldn't mind a decent package... I'll probably just wait until Wine gets better and run Paint Shop Pro... I need a good HTML code editor for debian (Been thinking I may just program macros in emacs but I don't realy want to) Umm... Ditto for me... I've tried all the Linux-Native HTML editors I could find, and I think at present I'll stick with multi-booting this system and running my http design software under windows... You might be interested in waiting a little yourself, at least until Gnome gets fully off the ground, those packages are beginning to look VERY good. On a side note I will be needing a Database to connect a website to fairly soon. Any suggestions (I am leaning towards mySQL but I would like a GUI interface to work in if possiable) Someone is ahead of you here, I do believe... There is a GUI interface for it, but it's very cumbersome, and might be best handled at present from the command line... I'm not sure if there is a Database package written for Linux which has a decent GUI interface... though if you don't mind buying commercial software, there is at least one... can't quite remember it's name now (I'm a big help, aren't I?) P.S on a happy note I got Netscape to work Finaly! and TinTin++ rocks (please include it in a furture debian release. They are working on it again finally and I would love to be able to apt-get it as they improve it. Version 2 coming soom:) Thats good to know... btw - what's TinTin++ Hope this helps, Peter Ludwig
Re: Apps For Debian?
In foo.debian-user, you wrote: On Sat, 8 May 1999, Lawrence Wickline wrote: Also need something that will make .gifs (Gimp doesn't seem to do this) Haven't found one yet myself... I wouldn't mind a decent package... I'll probably just wait until Wine gets better and run Paint Shop Pro... Gimp will support GIFs. The capability is just in a separate package for patent reasons. Install the gimp-nonfree package to get GIF and TIFF support. -Mitch
Re: Apps For Debian?
On Sun, 9 May 1999, Mitch Blevins wrote: In foo.debian-user, you wrote: On Sat, 8 May 1999, Lawrence Wickline wrote: Also need something that will make .gifs (Gimp doesn't seem to do this) Haven't found one yet myself... I wouldn't mind a decent package... I'll probably just wait until Wine gets better and run Paint Shop Pro... Gimp will support GIFs. The capability is just in a separate package for patent reasons. Install the gimp-nonfree package to get GIF and TIFF support. I actually remembered this after I'd sent the message off, actually the main reason I don't use gimp is because when I tried it I couldn't seem to do the fine detail work I wanted to do, and also I couldn't place text into the image (major lack there as far as web development is concerned!) Regards, Peter Ludwig
Re: Apps For Debian?
P.S on a happy note I got Netscape to work Finaly! and TinTin++ rocks (please include it in a furture debian release. They are working on it again finally and I would love to be able to apt-get it as they improve it. Version 2 coming soom:) Thats good to know... btw - what's TinTin++ Hope this helps, Peter Ludwig TinTin is a Mud client (Multi user Dungeon) I know every one loves Quake and all but I seem to stick with muds. I used to be able to use it when I had a shell account but since Ive been locked in a windows world for the last year I have been using zmud. All I can say is Im happy to have my tintin back.
web password changing
hi list ! ive looked all over freshmeat and cgi-resources.com and i just cant seem to find a some cgi that allows a user in ur system to change his/her password thru some web interface, that is, w/o havnig to telnet to the server and manually invoking passwd. anyone have any ideas where to find this ? thanks, chad
Re: ZIP drive and kernel 2.2?
Try modprobe ppa.. Chances are you have conflicting IRQs. Look at your /proc/interrupts and make sure everything is correct. Make sure you don't have ldp running and that you also have removed your lp module. Good luck. Hm, there shouldn't be any conflicting IRQs, since the ZIP is a parallel port device? I rmmod lp and killed lpd. cat /proc/interrupts gives CPU0 0: 36137 XT-PIC timer 1: 1182 XT-PIC keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 3: 4976 XT-PIC serial 4: 1046 XT-PIC serial 8: 2 XT-PIC rtc 13: 0 XT-PIC fpu 14: 36638 XT-PIC ide0 15: 4 XT-PIC ide1 NMI: 0 But modprobe ppa still gives: /lib/modules/2.2.5/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or resource busy parport: Device or resource busy Stef
The mysterious '2 '
A while back I noticed that there was a number 2 in some of my directories. Initially my first reaction was to delete them as I had not created them. Even this took a while as they were actually named 2space ie '2 ', which was not obvious to me. Last week I discovered some more of these files and decided to look inside one. I used 'file' and discovered that they were text files. I used 'cat' and the following was displayed: /usr/bin/updatedb: /var/lib/locate/locatedb.n: Permission denied find:/etc/ppp:Permission denied find:/etc/chatscripts:Permission denied find:/root:Permission denied find:/bin/secure-su:Permission denied updated: new database would be empty As I write this E-mail I seem only now to notice what the contents of the file actually mean. I hope I am wrong. I am a home user and the only network I'm connected to is the internet, and I haven't used this for a month or two as I intended to change my isp. Can anyone throw any light this situation. T: per_adua32
[s2192888@cse.unsw.edu.au: Re: Can you help me with scsi in debian please]
Hi, My anwser to this question is to compile the scanner driver as the module. But I am not sure. Any other suggestions?? Thanks. - Forwarded message from CyrusP [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: CyrusP [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Shao Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 14:50:48 +1000 (EST) X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Can you help me with scsi in debian please In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] New problem, (i) If I boot up kernel with scanner power on, then kernel can find it and if I check /proc/scsi/scsi, it shows that it detects the scanner and when I try scan everything is cool. (ii) If I boot up kernel with scanner turned off, it doesn't detect. If I check /proc/scsi/scsi, it doesn't show scanner. My question is how can I turn my scanner on after I boot up and have it be detected. Thanks Cyrus - End forwarded message - -- Shao Zhang - Running Debian 2.1 ___ _ _ Department of Communications/ __| |_ __ _ ___ |_ / |_ __ _ _ _ __ _ University of New South Wales \__ \ ' \/ _` / _ \ / /| ' \/ _` | ' \/ _` | Sydney, Australia |___/_||_\__,_\___/ /___|_||_\__,_|_||_\__, | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |___/ _
Local LAN + scanpackages
I have a small local mirror of unstable of all the packages I have installed. I make this mirror available to other people on the lan. As the unstable packages keep being updated I end up with different versions of the same packages and when i run dpkg-scanpackages I get '! Package blah is repeat;' - is there any Perl method to check versions on packages or even an easier way to get rid of duplicate packages ? TIA Sarel Botha
about 2 games in linux
Hi, I know both acm and abuse are good games in Linux. But I can never get them to work in my slink box. I am about to delete them!! If I run abuse.console, it complains about my mouse. I tried to edit /etc/vga/libvga.config but never succeeded. Never Mind. Then I tried abuse.x11r6, it complains about my x11 screen type. It says your X window screen type is not supported. Never Mind. And Then I tried acm, it says sound is not available for :0.0. As far as I know, my sound is working fine. How can I turn this sound option off?? Thanks. Shao. -- Shao Zhang - Running Debian 2.1 ___ _ _ Department of Communications/ __| |_ __ _ ___ |_ / |_ __ _ _ _ __ _ University of New South Wales \__ \ ' \/ _` / _ \ / /| ' \/ _` | ' \/ _` | Sydney, Australia |___/_||_\__,_\___/ /___|_||_\__,_|_||_\__, | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |___/ _
Re: [s2192888@cse.unsw.edu.au: Re: Can you help me with scsi in debian please]
I think the module name is general scsi support. Hope this helps you. Lennie. On Sun, 9 May 1999, Shao Zhang wrote: Hi, My anwser to this question is to compile the scanner driver as the module. But I am not sure. Any other suggestions?? Thanks. - Forwarded message from CyrusP [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: CyrusP [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Shao Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 14:50:48 +1000 (EST) X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Can you help me with scsi in debian please In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] New problem, (i) If I boot up kernel with scanner power on, then kernel can find it and if I check /proc/scsi/scsi, it shows that it detects the scanner and when I try scan everything is cool. (ii) If I boot up kernel with scanner turned off, it doesn't detect. If I check /proc/scsi/scsi, it doesn't show scanner. My question is how can I turn my scanner on after I boot up and have it be detected. Thanks Cyrus - End forwarded message - -- Shao Zhang - Running Debian 2.1 ___ _ _ Department of Communications/ __| |_ __ _ ___ |_ / |_ __ _ _ _ __ _ University of New South Wales \__ \ ' \/ _` / _ \ / /| ' \/ _` | ' \/ _` | Sydney, Australia |___/_||_\__,_\___/ /___|_||_\__,_|_||_\__, | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |___/ _ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: changing resolve.conf for deferent providers
Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it posible to make the use of deferent resolve.conf for deferent providers automatic? Yes. What I do is create files relevant to the different providers I use - there are three essential files for me: /etc/resolv.conf, /etc/chatscrips/provider and /etc/mail/sendmail.cf. I then have /etc/resolv.conf.eidosnet, /etc/resolv.conf.freeserve etc., /etc/mail/sendmail.cf.eidosnet, /etc/mail/sendmail.cf.freeserve and so on so I have the appropriate configuration files for each provider I use. It is a really simple matter then of having an executable script for each provider which copies the files around. Here is an example for one IP, eidosnet: cp /etc/resolv.conf.eidosnet /etc/resolv.conf cp /etc/chatscripts/provider.eidosnet /etc/chatscripts/provider cp /etc/mail/sendmail.cf.eidosnet /etc/mail/sendmail.cf I call this file dial.eidosnet and I made it executable so all I do to log on to eidosnet is run it and everything else falls into place. My /etc/chatscripts/provider.eidosnet file looks like this: ABORTBUSY ABORTNO CARRIER ABORTVOICE ABORTNO DIALTONE ATW2DT08453331611 ogin [EMAIL PROTECTED] word \qXXX XXX is, of course, my password. This system works flawlessly, as long as your permissions are OK on the files involved. I make sure that as a user I am a member of the dialout group, mail group etc.. and that the group has the ability to write to the files and directories involved. The programmers out there will see all this as incredibly clumsy, but as a non-programmer I am just pleased it all works so well!! Take care. -- Phillip Deackes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian Linux v.2.1
SCSI PB
Hi, Since I upgrade from 2.0.36 to 2.2.7, Linux do not recognize my CD-writer anymore !? SCSI card is a TEKRAM DC-390 simple adapter (fast-SCSI I guess) Id #4: Pioneer CD-ROM DR-U16S (always recognized) Id #5: Yamaha CRW4416S (no more recognized) No more devices on other Ids help me -- Jean-Yves BARBIER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Les choses ne sont pas toujours ce que l'on voudrait qu'elles soient qu'elles fussent... P. DAC
Re: The mysterious '2 '
per_adua32 wrote: A while back I noticed that there was a number 2 in some of my directories. Initially my first reaction was to delete them as I had not created them. Even this took a while as they were actually named 2space ie '2 ', which was not obvious to me. Last week I discovered some more of these files and decided to look inside one. I used 'file' and discovered that they were text files. I used 'cat' and the following was displayed: /usr/bin/updatedb: /var/lib/locate/locatedb.n: Permission denied find:/etc/ppp:Permission denied find:/etc/chatscripts:Permission denied find:/root:Permission denied find:/bin/secure-su:Permission denied updated: new database would be empty As I write this E-mail I seem only now to notice what the contents of the file actually mean. I hope I am wrong. I am a home user and the only network I'm connected to is the internet, and I haven't used this for a month or two as I intended to change my isp. These are error messages. Somewhere someone has tried to redirect error messages and has written `2'. I can't, at the moment, think what he might have inadvertently done to get a space on the end. `2\ ' or `2 ' are two ways of accomplishing it. He might well have been meaning to direct stderr to stdout: `21'; given sufficient confusion of mind or fingers, anything is possible! Try looking at scripts run (not as root) from cron. -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labor is not in vain in the Lord. I Corinthians 15:58
SCSI CDR+CD-ROM setup help needed (off-topic)
Hi all: I had a CDR that was working perfectly. I bought a SCSI CD-ROM, and when I connected it the CDR stoped working. When I boot up the devices are displayed this way: Device No. Adapter SCSI ID LUN 81 0 2 0 Pioneer DR966 ... (The CD-ROM) 82 0 6 0 Matshita ... (The CDR) The CDR is terminated, and CD-Rom unterminated. Whenever I try to burn a CD, even from an image on a HD, it starts the regular way (TOC and stuff), but then when the actual data is supposed to be written, it seems like it is misdirected to the CD-ROM (it starts clicking for a second, asif seeking for a disk), and I get Drive not ready error. The same thing happens when using different software. Questions: 1. Is there anything funny with my setup? 2. What are the jumpers Term Power (shortened) and Parity (shortened) on my CDR? Otherwise the both drives work (read data, extract DAE) w/o a problem. FWIW, the SCSI card is a PCI SCSI2, QlogicISP10. Thanks a lot for any input!!! -- Arcady Genkin
Re: partition problem
What is the error? On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 11:40:25PM -0400, Yong-Ho Ham wrote: hi, I'm having trouble installing linux on my pc. I ran the install.bat and setup the monitor and screen. Then it asked to partition my hard drive. I selected ok but it came up with an error and returned to the main menu. I have a compaq deskpro pc with a 1.2 gb hard drive. I partitioned it into 3 drives(500mb, 500mb, 200) Do you know what I may be doing wrong? Any help is greatly appreciated. Regards, Chris ham -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null pgp98GSTTp8bN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ZIP drive and kernel 2.2?
Just modprobe ppa and e-mail the output to this list. There should be an interrupt here for your parallel port, and yes, the parallel port can have conflicting irqs with other devices. Do that and let me see the output. On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 09:55:51AM +0200, Debian Mail wrote: Try modprobe ppa.. Chances are you have conflicting IRQs. Look at your /proc/interrupts and make sure everything is correct. Make sure you don't have ldp running and that you also have removed your lp module. Good luck. Hm, there shouldn't be any conflicting IRQs, since the ZIP is a parallel port device? I rmmod lp and killed lpd. cat /proc/interrupts gives CPU0 0: 36137 XT-PIC timer 1: 1182 XT-PIC keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 3: 4976 XT-PIC serial 4: 1046 XT-PIC serial 8: 2 XT-PIC rtc 13: 0 XT-PIC fpu 14: 36638 XT-PIC ide0 15: 4 XT-PIC ide1 NMI: 0 But modprobe ppa still gives: /lib/modules/2.2.5/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or resource busy parport: Device or resource busy Stef -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null pgpYVA3JqU8xa.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re[2]: changing resolve.conf for deferent providers
Phillip Deackes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is a really simple matter then of having an executable script for each provider which copies the files around. Here is an example for one IP, eidosnet: cp /etc/resolv.conf.eidosnet /etc/resolv.conf cp /etc/chatscripts/provider.eidosnet /etc/chatscripts/provider cp /etc/mail/sendmail.cf.eidosnet /etc/mail/sendmail.cf I call this file dial.eidosnet and I made it executable so all I do to log on to eidosnet is run it and everything else falls into place. Oops. Not *quite* as simple. I forgot part of the process. That script only moves files around. The command to log on for me is: 'dial.whatever;pon' - it is the 'pon' script which does the logging on. To log off I enter 'poff'. I have the process automated by using 9menu and asmodem in Window Maker. I click on the asmodem icon and get a menu of possible ISPs. Selecting one runs the appropriate dial.whoever script and then does 'pon'. Subsequently clicking on the modem runs 'poff'. -- Phillip Deackes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian Linux v.2.1
Re: Exim + Procmail + Mutt
JHMG == J Horacio M G [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JHMG /var/spool/exim/input/ and /var/spool/exim/msglog/. I believe JHMG Exim complained about |exec and IFS (I tried both with JHMG .forward). This is what I had in my ~/.forward: JHMG |exec /usr/bin/procmail In /etc/exim.conf, you have to change the address_pipe transport to address_pipe: driver = pipe return_output use_shell = true Ciao, Martin
Re: Q: multi-cd method.
On Sun, 9 May 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, you need to insert the second or last CD of your multi-cd archive first if you have more than one cd.. I don't know why but from the Debian Installation Manual that's the correct way to roll.. On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 09:55:48PM +0200, Tony Schonfeld wrote: hello , i've just upgrade hamm to slink at home and want to know if i'm using the correct method. ok johnny , here i've use apt-get -f dist-upgrade first , second i've use a multi-cd method but if i insert only CD #1 and try UPDATE with deselect the database seem not complete up-to-date , in second time after try UPDATE with CD #2 i've a complete packages list and Deselect can tell to me CD #1 or #2 for the correct need. It was the reason of my question because i've not read that in the Manual . Any other comments will be appreciated. Best regards , Tony I think it's necessary after the correct multi-cd choice, to insert each CD set and take a UPDATE action. Before the next release No database UPDATE in Deselect is required now. I can now select all packages need and install it. Please tell me if i'm ok or not. Many thanks , Tony Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.f5git.ampr.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://schonfeld.home.dhs.org Hamnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Phone:(33) 0610104815 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Data/Fax: (33) 0476932598 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.f5git.ampr.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://schonfeld.home.dhs.org Hamnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Phone:(33) 0610104815 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Data/Fax: (33) 0476932598
wine configuration
Hi, I just installed the potato version of wine and have put my window mount point into fstab in order to run the wineconf program. Unfortunately I keep getting an error saying Cannot read ./wine.ini and I don't know how to fix this problem, can anyone help me? Thanks for any help. Shawn Nguyen
Re: xwin
On Sat, 8 May 1999, J Horacio M G wrote:
Brian Servis dixit:
~
~ To stop xdm from starting in Debian 2.1 you have several options:
~
~ 1) remove the xdm package
~ 2) put an exit 0 at the top of the /etc/init.d/xdm script
~ 3) remove the symlinks in rc?.d to xdm with: update-rc.d -f remove xdm
~ 4) comment out the :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X line in
~/etc/X11/xdm/Xservers. This will still allow remote XDMCP
~connections since xdm is still running but not managing the local
~display.
Sorry to take back on an old issue.
Since Ctrl+Alt+Fn can switch from X to almost any V.C., and supposing
you can then take on any task under the command line, I'm seeing no real
point in removing xdm or preventing it from starting the x server on
startup.
But still, if I wanted to exit X... how do I do it? The exit menus in WM
take me back to the X login prompt, they don't take me to the command
prompt as they used to do in 2.0.
You don't exit xdm other than by executing '/etc/init.d/xdm stop' as
root, or by killing the xdm process with the 'kill' command.
I think you started X with the 'startx' program before ('in 2.0'), which
starts one X session and then exits. xdm, however, always gives you a new
login prompt after you exit a sesion.
You might want to try hitting CTRL-R at the xdm login prompt. According to
my /etc/X11/xdm/Xresources_0 file, this should 'abort' the display. xdm
will then kill the X server, but it will not exit. If you type
'/etc/init.d/xdm reload' as root after you have done this, xdm will start
the X server again.
Remco
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Re: Apps For Debian?
Peter Ludwig wrote: On a side note I will be needing a Database to connect a website to fairly soon. Any suggestions (I am leaning towards mySQL but I would like a GUI interface to work in if possiable) Someone is ahead of you here, I do believe... There is a GUI interface for it, but it's very cumbersome, and might be best handled at present from the command line... I'm not sure if there is a Database package written for Linux which has a decent GUI interface... though if you don't mind buying commercial software, there is at least one... can't quite remember it's name now (I'm a big help, aren't I?) try : postgres pgaccess (gui)
Re: 2 network cards
On Sat, 8 May 1999, MR wrote: I have two network cards (1 Intel etherexpress 16, 1 NE2000) in a debian system. Both are detected on boot up and both are ifconfig'd. This system will be used to connect my little LAN through IP masq to the Internet. For various reasons, I am only able to have 1 IP, so that is why I am messing around with all this. My problem is that I can not ping another machine on my internal LAN from the linux box. The internal LAN is numbered 192.168.1.x (with the linux box being .1 and the one I am trying to ping .3) eth0 is my external card and eth1 is the internal one. If I set up a route for the internal lan (route add -net 192.168.1.0 eth1) I can ping 192.168.1.1 (itself), but get a ping: sendto: Operation not permitted when trying to ping another machine on the internal lan. Any ideas? I have tried pinging the linux box from the other machine (which runs Win98). I get both activity lights going like they should on the hub and on a card from each computer, so the connection is there. Thanks in advance. Have you also set up the netmask and broadcast address for eth1? In your case, try netmask=255.255.255.0 and broadcast=192.168.1.255. Remco -- rd1936: 1:55pm up 6 days, 21:51, 5 users, load average: 1.10, 1.38, 1.77
How to use intelligent signature generator with mutt?
Hi all! I'd like to use the perl script to generate the signature for my mail messages, depending on the addressee. For example: when the address ends with .pl the signature is in Polish etc. Now I have the signature var set to ~/.generate_signature|. Is it possible to transfer addressees' list to the .generate_signature script, as additional parameters? (eg. by setting: set signature=~/.generate_signature $to | or something like this?) I couldn't find such functionality in mutt documentation :-(. -- TIA Wojciech Zabolotny [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org Use Linux - save your data and time
Re: Newer version of GNOME on slink?
On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 01:02:24PM -0400, William R Pentney wrote: Is there any way I can get a newer version of GNOME than the 1.0.3 in the slink staging area without upgrading to potato? Do the newer GNOME packages really use glibc2.1? i just upgraded to potato last night and the enlightenment/gnome stuff is sweet. however, i still haven't found a way to use the JDK under potato, so i'm going to have to reboot and use my slink partition pretty soon. it bothers me that debian is behind SuSE and Redhat when it comes to something like gnome and other frequently-changin software, but it's still a much better distribution, because of the .deb package format and apt. -vinny
Re: defrag, non-contiguous file system
On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 07:49:26PM -0700, Kenneth Scharf wrote: Each time my system runs fsck on reboot (when the disk reaches it's mount count limit) the file system appears more fragmented. On the last fsck run it reported 5.7% non-contiguous. Is this a problem and if so what should I do? i know that there is a package (in admin i think) called defrag, which you may want to take a look at. maybe there's something in the docs. -vinny
Re: (KLUDGED) Re: home compiled sysutils has broken dependency
I compiled sysutils myself because procinfo complains that it needs to be compiled to display all IRQs. I unpacked the debian source file and used debian/rules binary to make a binary. When I installed the .deb using dpkg (which happens without complaint and the programs work), apt-get starts complaining about broken dependencies. What am I doing wrong? 2) hack /var/state/apt/lists/ftp.mirror.aarnet.edu.au_pub_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages to show a dependency on the versions of libc6 and libncurses4 that I have. Any other ideas? 1) Let apt-get's source.list point to stable 2) Download whatever packages you need and install with dpkg -i 3) If you compile packages yourself, change the control file ($SRC/debian/control) so that it doesn't depend on something you don't want to upgrade -- Andrew Chung[EMAIL PROTECTED] See http://anderoo.dhs.org/~anderoo/pgp.html for PGP key It's a sin only if you dwell on the what ifs and the but ifs
Re: NEW Samba + Printer woes
Wayne Topa wrote: Subject: NEW Samba + Printer woes Date: Sat, May 08, 1999 at 05:13:32PM + In reply to:Jose L Gomez Dans Quoting Jose L Gomez Dans([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi! I've finally installed samba + lprng on an ageing i386. I have two parallel ports, and a printer attached to each. I'm using debian hamm. This is /etc/printcap: # # Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. # All rights reserved. # # Redistribution and use in source and binary forms are permitted # provided that this notice is preserved and that due credit is given # to the University of California at Berkeley. The name of the University # may not be used to endorse or promote products derived from this # software without specific prior written permission. This software # is provided ``as is'' without express or implied warranty. # # @(#)etc.printcap5.2 (Berkeley) 5/5/88 # # This file was generated by /usr/sbin/magicfilterconfig. # lp|hplj4l|HP Laserjet 4L:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lj4:\ :rm=143.167.116.166:\ :rp=raw:\ :lp=/dev/null:\ ?? :sh: :sh:pw#80:pl#72:px#1440:mx#0:\ :if=/etc/magicfilter/ljet4l-filter:\ :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs: Just a thought, there is no printer assigned in the above printcap, you have lp=/dev/null?? And this works using smbclient? Am I missing something here?? lp|lj|lp|Brother HL-10V:\ :lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\ :sh:pw#80:pl#60:px#1440:mx#0:\ :if=/etc/magicfilter/ljet2p-filter:\ :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs: Note the :lp=/dev/lp0 if for 2.2.x kernels. If you are using 2.0.x it would be :lp=/dev/lp1 HTH Then, samba is set up so that anyone in our domain may print to this server, without needing passwords or stuff like that. /etc/smb.conf looks like this: [global] workgroup=radarcommunications server string=Radar Communications Printer Server hosts allow=143.167. 127. load printers=yes printcap name=/etc/printcap printing=bsd log file = /var/log/samba/log/%m max log size = 20 security=share socket options=TCP_NODELAY guest account=pcguest dns proxy=no [printers] comment=Printers at skint path=/var/spool/lpd/lp browseable=no guest ok = yes writable=no printable=yes [ljet] printer=ljet public=yes writable=no printable=yes path=/var/spool/lpd/ljet The other printer is not set up, as lprng does not want to print to it at all. cat filename /dev/lp2 works fine, though. I've checked the spool directories, and all have the right permissions. Curiously enough, if I use smbclient from another linux box, I can print without problems. However, things coming from Win95/WfWg boxes are sent to /var/spool/lpd/ljet, and stored there. It seems that lpd doesn't want to print them. A couple of days ago, with only one parallel port, everything worked fine. lptune says that both lp1 and lp2 use polling. I don't know what else to do. Any words of wisdom on that one? Cheers, Jose -- Jose L Gomez Dans PhD student Radar Communications Group Department of Electronic Engineering University of Sheffield UK -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- A language that doesn't affect the way you think about programming is not worth knowing. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null The printcap is designed to work with a remote printer, e.g. I use such an entry for a hplj with a build-in ethernet interface. If you like to use local printers (direct conected to your machine) then you have to define them in the 'lp' line without 'rm' and 'rp' line. After this step you can make it usable to others on the network via samba. Michael -- Michael Steiner, Minorgasse 35, A-1140 Wien, Austria
moneydance 2.0
Hello, Is there someone using moneydance 2.0? I have downloaded it, installed jdk1.1 .deb, and then I ran the installer (sh install.bin) and... nothing happens. It just ask which java to use a choose it and them it gives the prompt. I succeded installing it under Solaris, so I may have to configure something by hand. Is there anyone who has already done this? Paulo
Help on getting libc6 working !
Hi, I'm unable to get my linux box working cause I'd broken glibc2.1 ! I'd an older rescue disk (Debian 1.3) and I can mount my linux box meanwhile I also have lastest libc6-2.1 package on it but i'm unable to get dpkg working ! :( Is there any good rescue disk or what should I do ? Thanks. Regards, Nuno P.S. Wouldn't be nice to have some libc (static !?) working for this situations ? Machine just don't work. I think this is a stupid situation ... or maybe I did a stupid thing ... but if I didn't had windowze installed I was unable even to send this email ! :(
Re: Apps For Debian?
Peter Ludwig wrote: On Sat, 8 May 1999, Lawrence Wickline wrote: As I am a new user of Debian I have a couiple of Questions as to what apps to get . I am not a couplete newbie but am still very new ( I know how to use gzip and tar and can do most basic functions of a *nix system) Here is my dilema after searching though several different dists I have come to the conclusion that debian wins. I always suggest it to people who are looking at installing linux. I myself have tried Debian, Slackware, and RedHat, and well, Debian Wins hands down for me. Now I have a minimally configured box running WindowMaker and I need to find Replacement apps for my windows junk. Specificaly a Word Replacement ( I tried WordPerfect but the install blew up at the end) There doesn't seen to be a .deb package available for it for some reason in spike of the aliance between debian and corel (same is true for KDE but i like WindowMaker better anyway). Any Ideas? There are a number of different Word Proccessing Packages out there, seeing as you've tried Word Perfect, I'll skip that one (grin). If you just want to use basic word Processing, I would suggest Emacs (you have to install it for a few packages, so why not get some use out of it? BTW - I myself don't like Emacs, so here's another option. You could try (if you've the HDD space), Staroffice. It's pretty good, and it'll read a large variety of formats, only problem - it's 120+ Megabytes of harddrive space used... Not as much of a problem as it might seem, but it is VERY big in reference to most Linux Software. There are many others, but I haven't tried them.. I myself decided to switch from Windows, and Star Office suited my right down to the ground... Also need something that will make .gifs (Gimp doesn't seem to do this) Haven't found one yet myself... I wouldn't mind a decent package... I'll probably just wait until Wine gets better and run Paint Shop Pro... I seem to remember that the gif licence says that any program that makes gifs has to pay 24cents to the gif patent holders per copy sold. This is obviously a problem for free software. Try png instead. Peter Allen
Re: Apps For Debian?
Peter Ludwig wrote: On Sat, 8 May 1999, Lawrence Wickline wrote: As I am a new user of Debian I have a couiple of Questions as to what apps to get . I am not a couplete newbie but am still very new ( I know how to use gzip and tar and can do most basic functions of a *nix system) Here is my dilema after searching though several different dists I have come to the conclusion that debian wins. I always suggest it to people who are looking at installing linux. I myself have tried Debian, Slackware, and RedHat, and well, Debian Wins hands down for me. Now I have a minimally configured box running WindowMaker and I need to find Replacement apps for my windows junk. Specificaly a Word Replacement ( I tried WordPerfect but the install blew up at the end) There doesn't seen to be a .deb package available for it for some reason in spike of the aliance between debian and corel (same is true for KDE but i like WindowMaker better anyway). Any Ideas? There are a number of different Word Proccessing Packages out there, seeing as you've tried Word Perfect, I'll skip that one (grin). If you just want to use basic word Processing, I would suggest Emacs (you have to install it for a few packages, so why not get some use out of it? BTW - I myself don't like Emacs, so here's another option. You could try (if you've the HDD space), Staroffice. It's pretty good, and it'll read a large variety of formats, only problem - it's 120+ Megabytes of harddrive space used... Not as much of a problem as it might seem, but it is VERY big in reference to most Linux Software. There are many others, but I haven't tried them.. I myself decided to switch from Windows, and Star Office suited my right down to the ground... Also need something that will make .gifs (Gimp doesn't seem to do this) Haven't found one yet myself... I wouldn't mind a decent package... I'll probably just wait until Wine gets better and run Paint Shop Pro... I seem to remember that the gif licence says that any program that makes gifs has to pay 24cents to the gif patent holders per copy sold. This is obviously a problem for free software. Try png instead. Peter Allen
mozilla
I recently downloaded and installed mozilla at the request of someone on this list. The .debs were libnspr21_19990415.M4-1_i386.deb and mozilla_19990415.M4-1_i386.deb. I installed them on my unstable system running 2.2.1 using dpkg -i. When I run mozilla from an xterm I get nsComponentManager: Using components dir: /usr/lib/mozilla/components width was not set height was not set Reading file... Reading file...Done Memory fault I'm sending to the list only because I've lost track of who it was that requested testing of this package. I'm on an old plain 120MHz Pentium with 64Mb RAM. Further detail on request. -- - Ralph Winslow [EMAIL PROTECTED] The IQ of the group is that of the member whose IQ is lowest divided by the number of members
Some newbie questions
1 - My X server since installation starts automaticly... I don't want it to auto - start. How do I take that option out? 2 - Is there any kind of autoexec.bat at Debian? Where? 3 - How do I mount my Windows file system at hda1? Then so it'll mount every time I log, I'll have to add the mount command to the Debian autoexec right? 4 - How do I configure my PCBIT ISDN card. I installed the module but it says when it is loading it that there are still 3 files to be configured at /etc/isdn... How do I configure them ? Isn't there an ISDN How-to somewhere? Regards, Paulo Jorge Matos aka PDestroy Minister of FortuneCity - Marina District http://www.fortunecity.com Personal Page : http://pdestroy.fortunecity.com E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Page me at : http://wwp.mirabilis.com/361853#pager SBN Level 2 Member HTML Writers Guild Member
The mysterious '2 '
Thanx to olly, when he mentionned a possible mistake to do with redirection I pretty much guessed what that the problem was. In the file /etc/profile I have an alias that runs the following command: alias upD.='updatedb --prunepaths=/var /cdrom /tmp /proc /mnt /dev/null 12 \' This particular alias is I think OK, but I noticed that when I modified it slightly (by taking the '' away) and called it from a normal user account it produced the file '2 ' and the text I found so worrying. No doubt I ran the alias in the past when it wasn't correctly written. T: per_adua32
Re: Some newbie questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 9 May 1999 15:25:11 +0100, Paulo J Matos aka PDestroy wrote: 2 - Is there any kind of autoexec.bat at Debian? Where? System wide - /etc/init.d, /etc/cron.* 3 - How do I mount my Windows file system at hda1? man mount Chances are it would be something like mount -t vfat /dev/hda /dirtomount Then so it'll mount every time I log, I'll have to add the mount command to the Debian autoexec right? man fstab /etc/fstab controls what partitions are mounted at boot time. - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.0 (C) 1997 Pretty Good Privacy, Inc iQA/AwUBNzWd/npf7K2LbpnFEQLm5wCdF1DMZT7t9O72RdW+YfOPfwsjctUAoK+8 +RrzIGEeptPxdh8KAfRZw8RQ =JTJr -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Some newbie questions
1 - My X server since installation starts automaticly... I don't want it to auto - start. How do I take that option out? I'm guessing you mean xdm. If your system is like mine, you'll have a file /etc/X11/config. In their will be a line 'start-xdm' which you should replace with 'no-start-xdm'. 2 - Is there any kind of autoexec.bat at Debian? Where? Sort of. The startup scripts are in /etc/init.d, with symlinks for each runlevel under /etc/rc?.d. However, you will seldom have to change the contents of these files, since there are 'safe' ways to set up the system, such as placing information about modules you want loaded at boot in /etc/modules, or mount info in /etc/fstab (Some things are different on different distributions though, most of this is debian specific, but I figure you probably wouldn't be here if you weren't using debian ;) 3 - How do I mount my Windows file system at hda1? Then so it'll mount every time I log, I'll have to add the mount command to the Debian autoexec right? Add a line similar to the following to /etc/fstab: /dev/hda1 /dos vfat default 0 0 I'm guessing your windows partition is a FAT32 partition (win9x), if its not, you may need to change 'vfat' to 'msdos' .. /dos is the mount point, you may have to create it, or put it somewhere else (/mnt/dos is also popular) 4 - How do I configure my PCBIT ISDN card. I installed the module but it says when it is loading it that there are still 3 files to be configured at /etc/isdn... How do I configure them ? Isn't there an ISDN How-to somewhere? Absolutely no idea on this one. Check the LDP (http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP); perhaps someone else would like to field this one? ;) re, Rob.
Installing Debian on a dos partion
I want to set up debian on a dos partition using umsdos, can anyone give me step by step instructions on how to do this? Is there a way to do this from the installer? If not any thoughts about adding it? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Paul L. McNeely ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ICQ# 1305664 Web Page http://i.am/drderail West Virginia Christian Chat Mailing List Sign up at onelist.com or E-mail me. Marshall University Chat Mailing List http://muchat.listbot.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: Apps For Debian?
Peter Ludwig wrote: On Sun, 9 May 1999, Mitch Blevins wrote: In foo.debian-user, you wrote: On Sat, 8 May 1999, Lawrence Wickline wrote: Also need something that will make .gifs (Gimp doesn't seem to do this) Haven't found one yet myself... I wouldn't mind a decent package... I'll probably just wait until Wine gets better and run Paint Shop Pro... Gimp will support GIFs. The capability is just in a separate package for patent reasons. Install the gimp-nonfree package to get GIF and TIFF support. I actually remembered this after I'd sent the message off, actually the main reason I don't use gimp is because when I tried it I couldn't seem to do the fine detail work I wanted to do, and also I couldn't place text into the image (major lack there as far as web development is concerned!) Regards, Peter Ludwig -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null One of Linux strong points is the ability of the user to customize and add to applications via modules or scripting. You should really take a look at http://www.gimp.org/ The GIMP does have the ability to put text into images and a lot of other things as well. You will need to install modules for the other items(there are hundreds). The GIMP will read gif files with the non-free version installed but I have noticed that it will not output .gif files. At least on my system ( I do have both the regular and the non-free versions installed.). I use .png instead for most of my web page development. Unfortunately linux does not have a web page development application such as HotDog, Frontpage etc. There is one under development. I presently use the Netscacp Communicator 4.51 as my GUI for this and then tweak the source code with EMACS or the HTML editor in Star Office. Enjoy the freedom of Open Source Software!begin:vcard n:Foster;John x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.advance-computing.com org:AdVance-Computing Systems;WHQ version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Owner note:We Build Multi-Processor Computers adr;quoted-printable:;;Stonetrail Drive=0D=0ASuite A;Plano;Texas;75023-7223;USA x-mozilla-cpt:;22240 fn:John Foster end:vcard
Re: Apps For Debian?
Khalid EZZARAOUI wrote: Peter Ludwig wrote: On a side note I will be needing a Database to connect a website to fairly soon. Any suggestions (I am leaning towards mySQL but I would like a GUI interface to work in if possiable) Someone is ahead of you here, I do believe... There is a GUI interface for it, but it's very cumbersome, and might be best handled at present from the command line... I'm not sure if there is a Database package written for Linux which has a decent GUI interface... though if you don't mind buying commercial software, there is at least one... can't quite remember it's name now (I'm a big help, aren't I?) try : postgres pgaccess (gui) ^^ / Packaged in libpgtcl -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labor is not in vain in the Lord. I Corinthians 15:58
Re: Some newbie questions
On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 12:47:04AM +1000, Robert Norris wrote: 1 - My X server since installation starts automaticly... I don't want it to auto - start. How do I take that option out? I'm guessing you mean xdm. If your system is like mine, you'll have a file /etc/X11/config. In their will be a line 'start-xdm' which you should replace with 'no-start-xdm'. This is true if you are using Debian 2.0; if you have Debian 2.1 (aka Slink) you should remove the xdm package if you don't want X server to start automatically: dpkg --remove xdm
Re: Some newbie questions
Luis M. Garcia wrote: On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 12:47:04AM +1000, Robert Norris wrote: 1 - My X server since installation starts automaticly... I don't want it to auto - start. How do I take that option out? I'm guessing you mean xdm. If your system is like mine, you'll have a file /etc/X11/config. In their will be a line 'start-xdm' which you should replace with 'no-start-xdm'. This is true if you are using Debian 2.0; if you have Debian 2.1 (aka Slink) you should remove the xdm package if you don't want X server to start automatically: dpkg --remove xdm --- That's kind of extreme! Before you do that try using Ctrl-Alt F1 (or any F key from F1 thru F6) to access a regular console. If you want to return to the XWindow use Ctrl-Alt-F7 . you can go back and forth as needed. I find this technique very useful when installing new software, as I can run several terminals including X with different users logged in.begin:vcard n:Foster;John x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.advance-computing.com org:AdVance-Computing Systems;WHQ version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Owner note:We Build Multi-Processor Computers adr;quoted-printable:;;Stonetrail Drive=0D=0ASuite A;Plano;Texas;75023-7223;USA x-mozilla-cpt:;22240 fn:John Foster end:vcard
Re: ICQ Woes
On Sat, 8 May 1999, Lawrence Wickline wrote: What happened? Did you get an error message, and if so, what was it? I had to change the shell script that loaded it up a bit when I installed it - had to add classes.zip in my JDK diretory to the class library parameter. - bill THe Java Portion Of ICQ did not install correctly any I deas how I get this to work ? -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
[OT] Low versus medium priced scanners
When comparing a cheap scanner (under $100) such as the Plustek 96xx series with a medium price scanner such as the so-called business-class HP 5200c, I can't tell what claims are due to the scanner hardware itself, or simply the bundled software. Obviously, the bundled software does a Linux user little good. The HP has color correction, snap-to colors for areas of what should be solid color, recognizes black and white line art and vectorizes it for smooth scaling, etc. This _sounds_ all like software features to me, and I'm wondering if the hardware itself is much different. ...RickM...
Thanks, John! Re: crypt?
Just a note of thanks to John Foster for his help in providing me with a well-documented replacement program for crypt. Thanks, John! Kenward Vaughan
Re: update-menus, does it work?
Subject: Re: update-menus, does it work? Date: Sat, May 08, 1999 at 03:32:22PM -0400 In reply to:Andrew Chung Quoting Andrew Chung([EMAIL PROTECTED]): ?package(gtcd):needs=x11 icon=none section=Apps/Sound \ title=Gtcd command=/usr/X11R6/bin/gtcd but it still doesn't show up in the menu of any user after I run update-menus. Yet 2 removed apps are still showing up in the Users menu. Did you run update-menu as yourself or as root? On my system I have to run it as myself before it will add/remove the entries to/from my menu...even for site-wide menu files. Yes, I have tried both as root and as a user, even tho I did not see any reference that is had to be done by both. Also note that the name in package() should be the name of the package, otherwise it won't add it to your menu.. I have tried ?package(tcd) and ?package(gtcd) and neither get the item added to the 'users' menu, but! Andrew, your right about the package name.!! I read package-name as menu package name, duh. :-( I created a new user to test this out. When that user runs update-menus it gets an error, Cannot open file /etc/X11/mwm//system.mwmrc /etc/menu-methods//mwm-menumethod: Aborting If I don't run update-menus but run X, a GNUstep menu is created (Wmaker is the default WM) and X runs fine but the 'gtcd' item is missing from the test users menus. Update-menus fails again, after exiting X. I copied the ~user/.menu/gtcd to /etc/menu and ran update-menus as both me and root. It is now showing up in root's menu! I them moved /etc/menu/gtcd to /root/.menu, reran update-menus, restarted the WM, and the item 'disappeared' from roots menu.(?) Moving it back to /etc/menu and running update-menus did NOT add it back to the root menu.(!?) Gtcd isn't in any menu at this point. I have noticed that roots apps/net menu has 24 items in it (including 3 Netscape entries, that in Debian, can't run) and only 18 entries in the my apps/net menu. Only one of which is a Netscape entry. I then moved the GNUstep to 1-GNUstep entered X again. Now I have the same apps/net menu as root does (WM interacts with update-menus somehow). So here is what I now have. 1. To add items to the root menu you put the new items in /etc/menu. And it works, sometimes. 2. Adding new menu entries in ~/.menu doesn't work, for anyone. 3. The items in /usr/lib/menu don't all show up in user menus if that user has a GNUstep menu already. 4. There is an interaction between the update-menus program and whatever WindowManager you are using. I am not sure, yet, what the fix is but I now have enough info to research it. 5. wmakerconf doesn' work. Running it segfaults with errors of a. no root/pixmaps file b. no /root/crontab c. After fixing a b it does **Error** sissegv: caught Looks like I have opened a can of worms here. Looks like I will change WM to fvwm and start this all over again. Andrew, what WM are you running and do you see any of the above happening? I will end this before it becomes a Book. I will update as I find answers to the above. Thanks Andrew! Wayne -- Using TSO is like kicking a dead whale down the beach. -- S. C. Johnson ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kernel Compile Error Messages
Anyone know of a spot where I can get common or rare error messages for kernel(2.2.5) compiles? Thanks, Jayson S. Baird Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter -- Yoda [EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Russian: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
X Error
Hi, I have X installed in my new Debian 2.1.3 (Slink). Sometimes X stops and an error occurs. It says: Fatal Server Error: Hung in ApmSync() It seems that when this function is called it hungs my X (it seems that this function is important because it happens often and then I have to reboot linux because it is not possible to restart x. Can anyone be of help? Thanks, Paulo Jorge Matos aka PDestroy Minister of FortuneCity - Marina District http://www.fortunecity.com Personal Page : http://pdestroy.fortunecity.com E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Page me at : http://wwp.mirabilis.com/361853#pager SBN Level 2 Member HTML Writers Guild Member
Re: moneydance 2.0
Paulo Jose da Silva e Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there someone using moneydance 2.0? I have downloaded it, installed jdk1.1 .deb, and then I ran the installer (sh install.bin) and... nothing happens. It just ask which java to use a choose it and them it gives the prompt. I succeded installing it under Solaris, so I may have to configure something by hand. Is there anyone who has already done this? Yes, I have been using the latest version and it is very good. Unfortunately because of a non-working JDK with glibc 2.1 I am going to have to go back to xfinans instead. If you are using glibc 2.0 you will be OK. Anyway, the installer does not work. You need to get these two files: http://seanreilly.com/java/moneydance/upgrade/2.0/moneydance.jar.gz http://seanreilly.com/java/moneydance/upgrade/swing-1.1/swingall.jar.gz unzip both files into a directory of choice. I used /usr/local/lib/moneydance. You then start Moneydance with: java -classpath /usr/lib/jdk1.1/lib/classes.zip:\ /usr/local/lib/moneydance/swingall.jar:\ /usr/local/lib/moneydance/moneydance.jar Moneydance Put all the above on one line and remove the '\' symbols. Sean has had a lot of problem reports about the Moneydance installer - it is patently not working on many boxes regardless of distribution. Hope this helps. -- Phillip Deackes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian Linux v.2.1
Re: SCSI CDR+CD-ROM setup help needed (off-topic)
Since you say the CDR is terminated, I'm assuming it's last on the SCSI chain. The Term Power jumper on the CDR is the jumper that sets termination on or off on the device. With that jumper shorted, the CDR is a terminating device on the chain, so in your current setup, it should be the last device on the SCSI chain. The Parity jumper sets SCSI parity to on or off. If your SCSI card supports parity, and has worked fine in the past, i would leave it on. Your CD-ROM probably has similar jumpers on it. One thing you may want to check is to make sure adding the CD-ROM didn't change any of your devices (shouldn't have, but it never hurst to check.). You may also want to check to make sure your CD-ROM isn't terminated (again, if it's not the last device on the chain). And you may also want to check your your burner software to be sure the rc files aren't looking to try to burn to the reader. Hope that helps at least a little...:-) John Arcady Genkin wrote: Hi all: I had a CDR that was working perfectly. I bought a SCSI CD-ROM, and when I connected it the CDR stoped working. When I boot up the devices are displayed this way: Device No. Adapter SCSI ID LUN 81 0 2 0 Pioneer DR966 ... (The CD-ROM) 82 0 6 0 Matshita ... (The CDR) The CDR is terminated, and CD-Rom unterminated. Whenever I try to burn a CD, even from an image on a HD, it starts the regular way (TOC and stuff), but then when the actual data is supposed to be written, it seems like it is misdirected to the CD-ROM (it starts clicking for a second, asif seeking for a disk), and I get Drive not ready error. The same thing happens when using different software. Questions: 1. Is there anything funny with my setup? 2. What are the jumpers Term Power (shortened) and Parity (shortened) on my CDR? Otherwise the both drives work (read data, extract DAE) w/o a problem. FWIW, the SCSI card is a PCI SCSI2, QlogicISP10. Thanks a lot for any input!!! -- Arcady Genkin -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
hdparm
Hi! try to put my hd in standby/sleep, but it dose not work so well. When I type hdparm -y/Y /dev/hda I can hear my hd spindown for 2-5 sec and then it goes back to normal mode! Does anyone know why it does not stay in standby/sleep mode ? (have a IBM Deskstar 10,1 7200Rpm) -- //thx Johan
Re: NEW Samba + Printer woes
Subject: Re: NEW Samba + Printer woes Date: Sun, May 09, 1999 at 02:36:22PM +0200 In reply to:Michael Steiner Quoting Michael Steiner([EMAIL PROTECTED]): The printcap is designed to work with a remote printer, e.g. I use such an entry for a hplj with a build-in ethernet interface. If you like to use local printers (direct conected to your machine) then you have to define them in the 'lp' line without 'rm' and 'rp' line. After this step you can make it usable to others on the network via samba. I have my Linux printer available to my network also but don't use either 'rm' or 'rp' entries. Must be another way to skin a cat. Thanks for the info! I will add that to my samba notes. regards Wayne -- Real Time, adj.: Here and now, as opposed to fake time, which only occurs there and then. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2 network cards
At 01:58 PM 5/9/99 +0200, you wrote: On Sat, 8 May 1999, MR wrote: I have two network cards (1 Intel etherexpress 16, 1 NE2000) in a debian system. Both are detected on boot up and both are ifconfig'd. This system will be used to connect my little LAN through IP masq to the Internet. For various reasons, I am only able to have 1 IP, so that is why I am messing around with all this. My problem is that I can not ping another machine on my internal LAN from the linux box. The internal LAN is numbered 192.168.1.x (with the linux box being .1 and the one I am trying to ping .3) eth0 is my external card and eth1 is the internal one. If I set up a route for the internal lan (route add -net 192.168.1.0 eth1) I can ping 192.168.1.1 (itself), but get a ping: sendto: Operation not permitted when trying to ping another machine on the internal lan. Any ideas? I have tried pinging the linux box from the other machine (which runs Win98). I get both activity lights going like they should on the hub and on a card from each computer, so the connection is there. Thanks in advance. Have you also set up the netmask and broadcast address for eth1? In your case, try netmask=255.255.255.0 and broadcast=192.168.1.255. Yes. Here is how it is all setup: # this is done already at boot time.. ifconfig eth0 207.xxx.xxx.xxx netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 207.xxx.xxx.255 route add -net 207.xxx.xxx.0 route add default gw 207.xxx.xxx.250 metric 1 ifconfig eth1 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 route add -net 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev eth1 # now I can ping 192.168.1.1, but get the sendto error when trying any others Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Any sufficiently advanced form of technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Re: Some newbie questions
to remove xdm : try : Ctrl+R in the xlogin or as root, in shell : switchdm
counting traffic
Hello! Does somebody know the simple way to count traffic bytes in/out debian server?
Any danger in dselecting emacs packages?
I've been reading a lot online that emacs takes up a lot of space and sometimes causes strange things to happen on the screen and within debian's setup. One online message jokingly hinted that maybe microsoft created emacs due to the multiple issues that occur when running emacs. I plan on networking my pc linux as well as play games, play music software, run perl scripts remotely, and run a pbtv card in the system. With that in mind, do you know if there any dangers in me running dselect on emacs packages? Are there any disadvantages to not having emacs installed in my system? Thanks! Andre'
Re: Apps For Debian?
Here's a LARGE link to 1,370 debian files/apps via hotbot search (many of them are at www.debian.org). You may need to cut and paste the URL below if it is altered by my email writer before reaching you: http://hotbot.com/?clickSrc=searchMT=submit=SEARCHSM=MCLG=anyAM0=MCAT0 =wordsAW0=AM1=MNAT1=wordsAW1=savenummod=2date=withinDV=0DR=newerDM= 1DD=1DY=98FSU=1FS=.debRD=RGRG=allDomain=PS=APD=DC=10DE=2_v=2OPs =MDRTPNUMMOD=2 Here's an html link to the same place if html links are supported: a href=http://hotbot.com/?clickSrc=searchMT=submit=SEARCHSM=MCLG=anyAM0= MCAT0=wordsAW0=AM1=MNAT1=wordsAW1=savenummod=2date=withinDV=0DR=new erDM=1DD=1DY=98FSU=1FS=.debRD=RGRG=allDomain=PS=APD=DC=10DE=2_v =2OPs=MDRTPNUMMOD=2 1,370 debian files via hotbot search/a
Re: Diagnostic message with Netscape 4.51 and Hamm
Jean-Yves BARBIER wrote: Todd 'Snoopy' Harper wrote: G'Day, I'm currently still running hamm, and I've installed Netscape 4.51 using the installer package (4.0-12). When I try to compose a new message in Messenger, I get a subprocess diagnostic dialog box Hi, I think it could come from 2 sources: 1- You told Netscape to always convert html to plain text, Nope. I tried composing both plain text messages and HTML messages and they both give the error message. 2- You choose the MIME format (wich need a conversion any time) Try to de activate one by one. Tried both 8-bit and MIME... still the same. I also renamed my .mime.types and .mailcap in the off change that it caused the problem, but no go. Any other suggestions or pointers? Thanks, -- Snoopy For Sale: Parachute. Only used once. Never opened. Small stain.
mutt: maildir-mbox
Using mutt I'd like to change from Maildir to mbox. What should I do? 1. Which type of mbox_type should I set? 2. set folder=~/Maildir # where i keep my mailboxes what to be in this case? 3. set sendmail=/var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject # how to deliver mail using exim: what to be this in this case? I use fetchmail, procmail. Thanks Attila Debian 2.1/2.0.36
[Q] How to compile a deb source pacjage
Hi, A short question: Does anyone know how to compile a debian source package into a binary? -- Min Xu City College of NY, CUNY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel:(O) (212) 650-6865 (O) (212) 650-5046 (H) (212) 690-2119
Re: Any danger in dselecting emacs packages?
Andr Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been reading a lot online that emacs takes up a lot of space and sometimes causes strange things to happen on the screen and within debian's setup [..] do you know if there any dangers in me running dselect on emacs packages? As far as I know, there are no dangers in installing Emacs. Emacs takes a lot of memory, but it is a great editor that you can use for nearly everything, and memory is cheap nowadays. Are there any disadvantages to not having emacs installed in my system? Yes, you can not use Emacs :-) I do not know of other disadvantages.
Re: Any danger in dselecting emacs packages?
I've been reading a lot online that emacs takes up a lot of space and sometimes causes strange things to happen on the screen and within debian's setup. One online message jokingly hinted that maybe microsoft created emacs due to the multiple issues that occur when running emacs. I probably have missed those messages. For me Xemacs is working very good. (except, Xemacs 19 is stuck in broken mode in dselect, and doesnt want to leave. ) It's working better than Netscape 4.5, which from time to time creates zombie processes on me, which take up 17M of ram. I plan on networking my pc linux as well as play games, play music software, run perl scripts remotely, and run a pbtv card in the system. With that in mind, do you know if there any dangers in me running dselect on emacs packages? Are there any disadvantages to not having emacs installed in my system? Again, there could be some danger, I don't know. Emacs is just convinient text-editor. Pretty good for programming. Unfortunately, it is bulky. No disadvantages of not having it in your system, except you would be missing the wonderful psychoanalyst Zippy. Andrew --- Andrei S. Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN 12402354 http://members.tripod.com/AnSIv --Little things for Linux.
Compiling non-debian source
Hello, Can non-deb source pkgs be compiled and installed with dpkg (like the kernel sources)?. Thank you
Re: Q: multi-cd method.
Tony Schonfeld writes: On Sun, 9 May 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, you need to insert the second or last CD of your multi-cd archive first if you have more than one cd.. I don't know why but from the Debian Installation Manual that's the correct way to roll.. That's correct. here i've use apt-get -f dist-upgrade first , second i've use a multi-cd method but if i insert only CD #1 and try UPDATE with deselect the database seem not complete up-to-date , in second time after try UPDATE with CD #2 i've a complete packages list and Deselect can tell to me CD #1 or #2 for the correct need. OK, you seem to have it correct now. The way the multi-cd method is set up as follows: the Packages.cd file on CD#1 knows about packages on CD#1 the Packages.cd file on CD#2 knows about packages on CD#1 and CD#2 and if you have the two source CDs and an optional CD#5 with non-free then the Packages.cd file on CD#5 knows about packages on CD#1, CD#2 and CD#5 So, whatever combination of CDs you have, you should run Update from dselect with the _last binary CD_ of your set in your CD-ROM drive. There should be a file called README.multicd on each of your CDs which says this... -- Steve McIntyre, CURS CCE, Cambridge, UK. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Getting a SCSI chain working is perfectly simple if you remember that there must be exactly three terminations: one on one end of the cable, one on the far end, and the goat, terminated over the SCSI chain with a silver-handled knife whilst burning *black* candles. --- Anthony DeBoer
help with dynamic linker
I updated some of my packages to the unstable versions to try out the latest gnome packages. I subsequently removed the gnome-packages. But now I the following message when trying to complie a C++ program: bash-2.01$ g++ -o ass4 assign4.cpp BUG IN DYNAMIC LINKER ld.so: dynamic-link.h: 57: elf_get_dynamic_info: Assertion `! bad dynamic tag' failed! I have the following packages that I thing are relavent: ii bin86 0.14.3-1 16-bit assembler and loader ii binutils2.9.1.0.24-1 The GNU assembler, linker and binary utiliti ii cpp 2.91.66-1 The GNU (egcs) C preprocessor. ii g++ 2.91.66-1 The GNU (egcs) C++ compiler. ii gcc 2.91.66-1 The GNU (egcs) C compiler. ii gdb 4.17-4.m68k.ob The GNU Debugger ii ldso1.9.11-2 The Linux dynamic linker, library and utilit ii libc5 5.4.46-3 The Linux C library version 5 (run-time libr ii libc6 2.1.1-2GNU C Library: Shared libraries and timezone ii libc6-dev 2.1.1-2GNU C Library: Development libraries and hea ii libg++2.8 2.90.29-2 The GNU C++ extension library - old runtime ii libstdc++2.82.90.29-2 The GNU stdc++ library (old egcs version) ii libstdc++2.92.91.60-5 The GNU stdc++ library (egcs version) ii libstdc++2.9-gl 2.91.66-1 The GNU stdc++ library (egcs version) If I would back out to the stable versions of whatever is at the unstabled versions, I would be ok, but I do not know how to downgrade a package. Some help please. Thanks. -c -- Chad Reichenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Q] How to compile a deb source pacjage
It's pretty easy, usually. 1) Download the source components into the directory of your choice. There should be either two or three files: *.orig.tar.gz, *.dsc, and *.diff.gz (not present if it's a native Debian package). 2) Enter the command dpkg-source -x packagename.dsc. This will unpack the source into the packagename directory, which will be created. 3) Go into the unpacked source directory, and issue the command debian/rules build. 4) Issue the command fakeroot debian/rules binary. Assuming that you have all of the necessary development packages installed, your debfile will be created in the parent directory. If you get any errors about required files/commands not being present, you can find out what packages you need to install by doing a package search at the Debian website. Just follow the Debian Packages link on the main page. On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 03:15:20PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, A short question: Does anyone know how to compile a debian source package into a binary?
Re: Compiling non-debian source
Jake Bishop wrote: Hello, Can non-deb source pkgs be compiled and installed with dpkg (like the kernel sources)?. Thank you No, dpkg only knows how to handle Debian packages that end in '.deb'. The kernel sources are in '.tar.gz' format which requires the use of the programs 'tar' and 'gzip'; man tar. Note however, that a deb package of the kernel sources exists in slink (maybe potato?). -- Ed C.
Re: [Q] How to compile a deb source pacjage
On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 03:15:20PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, A short question: Does anyone know how to compile a debian source package into a binary? If you have the source package, which usually consists of three files, the *.dsc, the *.orig.tar.gz, and the *.diff.gz, you need only do the following to unpack the source: dpkg-source -x *.dsc That will create a directory having the same name as the package. Change to that directory, and run the following command: debian/rules binary That will run the rules script in the debian directory, with the binary argument which says just create the *.deb binary package. That should be sufficient in most cases (except for XFree86 :) MG -- Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED] And though the window in the wall Come streaming in on sunlight wings A million bright ambassadors of morning. --Pink Floyd, Echoes
Printing from octave
Could someone please tell me how to get octave to print graphs (preferably to a file). I've tried RTFM, but it's not really helping me here. Thanks in advance Rich
Problems with sending mail from mutt via DIP
Hi All! When I send mail from my home, the message header contains the sender address from my fake home domain ([EMAIL PROTECTED], nasz.dom is my unregistred local domain with IP's 192.168.*.*). This results in rejecting of my mail by many addressees (error: sender domain must resolve). Setting the my_hdr From: to my official e-mail address didn't solve this problem. I didn't have such problems with pine, so I have compared the mutt generated messages with pine's ones in /var/spool/smail (before the sending), and using the tryfail method I've found the following solution - I've added the following line to my .muttrc : set sendmail=/usr/lib/sendmail -oi -om -f [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ -oMs wzab.nasz.dom -oMa 192.168.1.1 -oMr smtp It results with one warning in the smail's logfile: 05/09/1999 21:46:46: remote EHLO: questionable operand: 'wzab.nasz.dom': \ from wzab.nasz.dom(elektron.elka.pw.edu.pl) source [148.81.63.249]: \ Unknown host. But the mail gets delivered. Is there anything wrong with my solution? How could it be done in more elegant way? -- TIA Wojciech Zabolotny [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org Use Linux - save your data and time
wav mp3
Hello Guys! Can anybody point to a software for converting .wav to mp3, or at least converting anything to mp3 compression? TIA.
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Looks like I have opened a can of worms here. Looks like I will change WM to fvwm and start this all over again. Andrew, what WM are you running and do you see any of the above happening? Here's what I added to get the menu entries: In ~/.menu/tcd: ?package(tcd):needs=text title=tcd \ section=Apps/Sound command=/usr/bin/tcd And in ~/.menu/gtcd: ?package(tcd):needs=x11 title=gtcd \ section=Apps/Sound command=/usr/X11R6/bin/gtcd Then update-menus and it works perfectly... FYI, I'm using v1.5-19 of the menu package and 0.53.0-2 of WindowMaker. Also note that you can have only one menu entry per file... Also check your wmaker menu files. ~/GNUStep/Defaults/WMRootMenu should contain menu.hook and ~/GNUStep/Library/WindowMaker/menu.hook should have your current menu structure. If this doesn't work, maybe try 'update-menus -d 2 log' and then look through log.. It *should* have a line like Update-menus[13336]: ADDING: command=/usr/bin/tcd needs=text section=Apps/Sound title=tcd HTH -- Andrew Chung[EMAIL PROTECTED] See http://anderoo.dhs.org/~anderoo/pgp.html for PGP key It's a sin only if you dwell on the what ifs and the but ifs
