Re: specification of mailhost password to fetchmail on command line.

1999-05-29 Thread Brian Servis
*- On 29 May, David Karlin wrote about "specification of mailhost password to 
fetchmail on command line."
>
> There is, however, no mention of the syntax for .fetchmailrc.
>

man fetchmail

 CONFIGURATION EXAMPLES
   Basic format is:

 poll SERVERNAME protocol PROTOCOL username NAME password PASSWORD

> Q1) Is there a way to simply add the password to the command line?

no

> Q2) If not, then where can I find the proper syntax for .fetchmailrc?
> 

The man page, see above.

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Re: make menuconfig (potato)

1999-05-29 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, May 29, 1999 at 06:03:04PM -0500, Brad wrote:
> On Sat, 29 May 1999, Bob Nielsen wrote:
> 
> > Why are the menuconfig boxes now shown with ascii characters (*, |,
> > etc.) instead of real lines as in earlier versions? 
> 
> What's your TERM environment variable set to? On my system, if it's
> "linux", "rxvt", or "xterm-debian" it uses color and lines. "vt100" goves
> lines but no color. "xterm" gives ASCII chars and no color.
> 
> The default for a console should be "linux". For an Xterm from the deb
> package, it should be "xterm-debian". For an rxvt, it should be "rxvt".
> 


TERM=linux  There is color, but no lines.

System is potato, kernel 2.2.9.

Bob

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Re: Sound devices missing

1999-05-29 Thread add|ct|on
if i'm not mistaken, the proper way to do it is to go into /dev as root and
run ./MAKEDEV audio.

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- Original Message -
From: Mark Nellemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 1999 4:00 PM
Subject: Sound devices missing


> Hi !
>
> Whenever I install a Debian (slink or potato), it seems that the sound
> devices (/dev/dsp, /dev/mixer, ..) is missing.  So I install the devices
> with a script from a 2.0.x kernel found in Documentation/sound.
>
> Am I wrong or is this the right thing to do ?
>
>
> Regards ..
>
> Mark Nellemann
>
>
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Re: Compiling Pine 4.10

1999-05-29 Thread add|ct|on


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help, I got sucked into /dev/null

that is calling for libtermcap, which you don't need to use technically.
ncurses can do the same thing if you edit the source file to say -lncurses
instead of
-ltermcap. worked for me anyway.

- Original Message -
From: Adilson dos Santos Dantas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 1999 10:21 AM
Subject: Compiling Pine 4.10


> Hello Debian users!
>
> I´m trying to compile Pine 4.10 in a slink. But I have some problems.
> When I complile Pine. I found this message:
>
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot open -ltermcap: No such file or directory
>
> I change the value from termcap to terminfo. But I found the
> following message:
>
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot open -lterminfo: No such file or directory
>
> What can I do for compiling and installing this version of Pine here? I
> cannot find any *.deb file in www.debian.org
>
>   []´s
>
>Adilson
>
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>
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> pie.  Suddenly a bird of prey swooped down and snatched the piece of
> meat from his hand.  As the bird flew off, Nasrudin called after it,
> "Foolish bird!  You have the liver, but what can you do with it without
> the recipe?"
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Re: potato - unstable?

1999-05-29 Thread add|ct|on
i tend to agree with Daniel. my situation of use is quite the same, but my
system gets heavy usage and i never have problems i can't take care of. only
minor ones so far luckily. i had more problems with slink but who knows why.


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- Original Message -
From: Daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: DEBIAN user 
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 1999 8:45 AM
Subject: potato - unstable?


> Hello!
>
> It's me again.
>
> For all of you, I apreciatte your concern and for having let me know
> what really "unstable" means. Maybe I was being too exciting about
> potato packages since I like a lot how my debian distro works and how it
> is made. Well, what I really want to say to those of you who have read
> me message is that what I mean is, as a user, potato has been as stable
> to me as slink would have been, since I havent had any problems with
> those unstable packages, I repeat, I am just a user, my computer does
> not do anything special, nor ir a server or anything productive. I
> update my linux system almost everyday. But I really know that for
> people that are not just simple users like me they can be taking a risk
> using some unstable packages.
>
> Again, I apreciatte your comments, and sorry If I have transmitted a
> wrong idea to some newbies.
>
> Regards to everyone
>
> Daniel
>
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Re: LILO Problem

1999-05-29 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: LILO Problem
Date: Sat, May 29, 1999 at 02:48:22PM -0700

In reply to:Lorne Williams

Quoting Lorne Williams([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Hi gang. I've read every scrap of documentation on lilo I can find *twice*,
> and I'm still discombobulated. Here's my situation:


[snip lilo.conf file]


Here is a workng example

# LILO configuration file
# generated by 'liloconfig'
#
# Start LILO global section
boot = /dev/hda # Device containing boot
sector
compact # faster, but won't work on
all systems.
prompt  # Force boot prompt
map = /boot/map # Default   = /boot/map
Default = Slink2.2.9# Default   = /boot/boot.
Timeout = 250   # Wait /10 sec. after
prompt then boot default
# End LILO global section

# Image sections
# Linux bootable partition config begins

#  Slackware 3.3
# Share 5.1 Gig IDE Drive with Win95 (ugh)
#
Image = /vmlinuz
root= /dev/hda3
label   = slack33
VGA = 0xb
append  = "lp=0x378,0 boot_verbose=1"
##  Note: append line alows printer to be polled
##saving the IRQ for other, more inportant
# uses

Image = /boot/Slack2.2.3
root= /dev/hda3
label   = S2.2.3
VGA = 0x317
append  = "video=vesa:ypan,nopal lp=parport0 parport=0x378,none"

#
#   Debian 2.0
Image= /boot/hamm-36
  label  = hamm-36
  Root   = /dev/hdb1
  VGA= 0xb
  append = "lp=0x378,0"

#   Debian 2.1
#
Image= /boot/slink
  label  = Slink
  Root   = /dev/hdb2
  VGA= 0xb
  append = "lp=0x378,0"

Image= /boot/Slink-2.2.9
  label  = Slink2.2.9
  Root   = /dev/hdb2
  VGA= 0x317
  append  = "hdd=cdrom lp=parport0 parport=0x378,none"

#   Debian 2.1-1
#
Image   = /boot/potato
label   = Potato
Root= /dev/hdb10
VGA = 0xa
#
Image = /boot/memtest86
Label = Memtest

#   Win95  Why waste the disk space??
#
Other = /dev/hda1
Label   = win
Table   = /dev/hda

# NOTE:  ALL boot images copied to /boot on /dev/hda3 and all
#other distro's /boot.
#/etc/lilo.conf in all distro's is the same.
#This alows any distro to rebuild the MBR on hda.
#This is overkill but it works!

HTH, YMMV, HAND

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Re: Sound devices missing

1999-05-29 Thread Michael Stenner
On Sat, 29 May 1999, Mark Nellemann wrote:

>Whenever I install a Debian (slink or potato), it seems that the sound
>devices (/dev/dsp, /dev/mixer, ..) is missing.  So I install the devices
>with a script from a 2.0.x kernel found in Documentation/sound.
>
>Am I wrong or is this the right thing to do ?

I don't know if it's actively wrong, but the "standard" way to do it is
to use the script in /dev/ calles MAKEDEV (or something like that..
you'll see it).  Run "MAKEDEV audio".

You should look in the script to make sure that this is correct.  It may
have a manpage as well.  

A word of warning - by default, it makes the devices in your present
working directory, so be in /dev/  when you run it :)

-Michael


Re: make menuconfig (potato)

1999-05-29 Thread add|ct|on
i believe you're missing a ncurses dev lib.

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- Original Message -
From: Johan Pettersson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 1999 4:35 AM
Subject: make menuconfig (potato)


> Hello!
> I have uppgraded from slink to potato (I now understand the word
> unstable=)
> And downloaded kernel 2.2.9. But when I type menuconfig I have got
> following
> error mess.
>
> rm -f include/asm
> ( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm)
> make -C scripts/lxdialog all
> make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog'
> gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -DLOCALE
> -DCURSES_LOC=""   -c lxdialog.c -o lxdialog.o
> In file included from lxdialog.c:22:
> dialog.h:29: curses.h: No such file or directory
> make[1]: *** [lxdialog.o] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog'
>
> from what I understand it can not find dialog.h and curses.h!
>
> file://thx Johan
>
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Is it possible to create cua[0-3] devices in Slink/Potato?

1999-05-29 Thread Stuart Ballard
I have a computer running mostly slink, with a small amount of potato
thrown in. It completely fails to recognise my serial mouse, no matter
what device or protocol I give it. gpmconfig instantly decides that the
modem device must be the mouse, I guess because it's the only one with
any activity. Giving it the "correct" device, ttyS1, it just gets no
activity at the next step. Putting ttyS1 in XF86Config doesn't work
either.

What is strange is that Red Hat works perfectly well on this system.
After a bit of looking, I noticed that on Red Hat, /dev/mouse was
pointing to /dev/cua1 instead of ttyS1. This reminded me that I had
similar problems when I installed Red Hat itself, which I solved by
pointing to cua1 because ttyS1 didn't work.

I know that the cua devices are obsolete under recent kernels, but I
only have the kernel that came with slink (2.0.36?). However,
/dev/MAKEDEV cua1 doesn't work. Is there any way I can create it?
Failing that, does anyone have any ideas why my mouse would work with
cua devices and not ttyS devices, and how to fix it?

Thanks in advance,
Stuart.

PS If the solution involves upgrading some components to potato, I have
no problem with this. A complete upgrade isn't possible due to bandwidth
limitations, though.


java applets in X

1999-05-29 Thread moron
I've just installed the jdk and tried some applets that worked perfectly
well (from local files or across the Internet) with Netscape, IE or
appletviewer under win95.  Running them under Debian in X overwhelmed the
system if there was any significant redrawing of the screen required -  it
couldn't even respond to ctrl-alt-del.  Is this normal?

David



Re: make menuconfig (potato)

1999-05-29 Thread Brad
On Sat, 29 May 1999, Bob Nielsen wrote:

> Why are the menuconfig boxes now shown with ascii characters (*, |,
> etc.) instead of real lines as in earlier versions? 

What's your TERM environment variable set to? On my system, if it's
"linux", "rxvt", or "xterm-debian" it uses color and lines. "vt100" goves
lines but no color. "xterm" gives ASCII chars and no color.

The default for a console should be "linux". For an Xterm from the deb
package, it should be "xterm-debian". For an rxvt, it should be "rxvt".


Re: why is xdm ignoring the keyboard?

1999-05-29 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "BB" == Bob Billson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

BB> I'm puzzling over an odd problem.  I can run X just fine when I
BB> log in as a normal user and run startx.  However, if I let Debian
BB> (potato) boot so xdm is started when the system boots, I can't log
BB> in at all.  In fact, xdm seems totally hosed.  It won't respond to
BB> any keyboard input.  The system, itself, still appears to be
BB> functioning.  cron still is running its jobs.  The mouse still
BB> moves cursor around.

A similar case has been discussed on the list some time ago. Something 
like that happens when multiple programms fight about a virtual
console. These may be getty, xdm, wdm, gdm or login.app.

If you have more than one of the above installed (without getty), then 
disable all but one for now.

Also check in /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers that you don't try to handle a vt
that is used by getty (in /etc/inittab).

Ciao,
Martin


Re: HP LJ 6P setup?

1999-05-29 Thread Charlie Hedlin
The laserjet 6p still supports the PCL5 language of its predicessors.
Experiment with the varous lj filters (I would start with ljet4) untill
you find the one that works best.

Magicfilter is setup so that you can print most files, from text to jpg to
postscript.  If all you want to do is text or raw pcl files (mabey through
samba or with print to file on a windows box) you can use the default
printcap and just change the port.

With magicfilter it autodetects the file type.

On Sat, 29 May 1999, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote:

> I am trying to useg magicfilter with an HP Laserjet 6pse.  It does not seem 
> that magicfilter has a filter for a 6P.
> Can someone tell me how to set this up?  I am assuming that all I need to 
> type is lpr 'file' to print a file.  Does this also apply to postscript 
> files? i.e. lpr file.ps?
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> lance
> 
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Re: specification of mailhost password to fetchmail on command line.

1999-05-29 Thread Michael Merten
On Sat, May 29, 1999 at 04:11:06PM -0600, David Karlin wrote:
> Hello,
> I'm using the following fetchmail command to download my mail from
> my smarthost:
>   
>   /usr/bin/fetchmail -u funk48 travelin.com
> 
> This command causes me to be prompted for my mail password, but 
> I'd like to be able to run this as a script in a cron job, i.e. to
> to have this script run w/o user input.
> 
> I've read the manpage for fetchmail and it says:
> 
> "The default behavior of fetchmail is to prompt you for your 
> mailserver password before the connection is established. 
> This is the safest way to use fetchmail and ensures that your 
> password will not be compromised. You may also specify your 
> password in your ~/.fetchmailrc file. This is convenient when 
> using fetchmail in daemon mode or with scripts."
> 
> There is, however, no mention of the syntax for .fetchmailrc.
> 
> Q1) Is there a way to simply add the password to the command line?
> Q2) If not, then where can I find the proper syntax for .fetchmailrc?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -David
> 
> 

David,

My .fetchmailrc looks like this:

---
# Configuration created Wed Feb  3 01:42:17 1999 by fetchmailconf
set postmaster "ironfoot"
poll pop-server.com with proto POP3 and options no dns
   user "ironfoot" there with password "password" is ironfoot here options 
fetchall mimedecode warnings 3600
---

Only the names have been changed to protect the innocent ;)

Mike

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Re: specification of mailhost password to fetchmail on command line.

1999-05-29 Thread Charlie Hedlin
Look under the "Run control heading in the fetchmail (1) man page, it is
there.  However, here is mine (with accounts, machine names, and passwords
removed).

#poll mail.myoldisp.net proto pop3 user  pass 
poll pop-server.mynewisp.com proto pop3 user  pass 
poll mail.myschool.edu proto pop3 user  pass 

Now whenever I run fetchmail it querys both mail servers.



On Sat, 29 May 1999, David Karlin wrote:

> Hello,
> I'm using the following fetchmail command to download my mail from
> my smarthost:
>   
>   /usr/bin/fetchmail -u funk48 travelin.com
> 
> This command causes me to be prompted for my mail password, but 
> I'd like to be able to run this as a script in a cron job, i.e. to
> to have this script run w/o user input.
> 
> I've read the manpage for fetchmail and it says:
> 
> "The default behavior of fetchmail is to prompt you for your 
> mailserver password before the connection is established. 
> This is the safest way to use fetchmail and ensures that your 
> password will not be compromised. You may also specify your 
> password in your ~/.fetchmailrc file. This is convenient when 
> using fetchmail in daemon mode or with scripts."
> 
> There is, however, no mention of the syntax for .fetchmailrc.
> 
> Q1) Is there a way to simply add the password to the command line?
> Q2) If not, then where can I find the proper syntax for .fetchmailrc?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -David
> 
> 
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Re: LILO Problem

1999-05-29 Thread Michael Merten
On Sat, May 29, 1999 at 02:48:22PM -0700, Lorne Williams wrote:
> Hi gang. I've read every scrap of documentation on lilo I can find *twice*,
> and I'm still discombobulated. Here's my situation:
> 
> Dual boot Linux/Windoze, two IDE drives,
> First drive
> /dev/hda1 Win95
> /dev/hda2 Linux /usr
> /dev/hda3 Linux swap
> Second drive
> /dev/hdb1 Win data
> /dev/hdb2 Linux /. vmlinuz image is on the root.
> 
> lilo.conf (this boots into Linux, but not into WinDos)
> boot=/dev/hda1
   ^
try: boot=/dev/hda instead, to put lilo into the mbr on /dev/hda

> root=/dev/hdb2
> install=/boot/boot.b
> map=/boot/map
> vga=normal
> delay=20
> image=/vmlinuz
> label=Linux
> read-only
> other=/dev/hda1
> label=Win

add: table=/dev/hda to the end

> 
> I've trashed my first drive twice now fooling with this. Debian setup craps
> out because my root partition is on the second drive. Setup leaves me with
> most of the above, but with a blank boot= line. I added the two lines at the
> bottom.
> 
> Am I close?
> TIA, Lorne.
> 
> 

Other than that, it looks ok.  Mine is similar, except that I have
multiple image= sections (I have several kernel versions laying around).

Hope this helps,
Mike


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specification of mailhost password to fetchmail on command line.

1999-05-29 Thread David Karlin
Hello,
I'm using the following fetchmail command to download my mail from
my smarthost:

/usr/bin/fetchmail -u funk48 travelin.com

This command causes me to be prompted for my mail password, but 
I'd like to be able to run this as a script in a cron job, i.e. to
to have this script run w/o user input.

I've read the manpage for fetchmail and it says:

"The default behavior of fetchmail is to prompt you for your 
mailserver password before the connection is established. 
This is the safest way to use fetchmail and ensures that your 
password will not be compromised. You may also specify your 
password in your ~/.fetchmailrc file. This is convenient when 
using fetchmail in daemon mode or with scripts."

There is, however, no mention of the syntax for .fetchmailrc.

Q1) Is there a way to simply add the password to the command line?
Q2) If not, then where can I find the proper syntax for .fetchmailrc?

Thanks,

-David



Re: Exim filters instead of procmail?

1999-05-29 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: Exim filters instead of procmail?
Date: Sat, May 29, 1999 at 04:22:54PM +0100

In reply to:Phillip Deackes

Quoting Phillip Deackes([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> I am now successfully using exim instead of sendmail. I use fetchmail
> and procmail for fetching my mail from my IP's POP server and sorting it
> into folders. I understand exim has its own mechanism for sorting
> incoming mail - can fetchmail pass mail onto exim and get exim to sort
> it? Can anyone point me to an appropriate document, FAQ, whatever which
> would explain what I would have to do to set it all up?
> 
> Many thanks.
> 
> 
> --
> Phillip Deackes
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Debian Linux (Potato) 

/usr/doc/exim

filter.txt.gz discribes how to use a .forward file to filter mail

such as

~/.forward
# Exim filter
#

if error_message then finish endif

if $header_x-loop: contains "debian-user"
then
save $home/mail/Lists/debian-user
endif

if $h_x-loop: contains "debian-devel"
then
save $home/mail/Lists/debian-devel
endif

HTH, YMMV, HAND


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Problem with mail delivery (Exim+Fetchmail)

1999-05-29 Thread J Horacio MG
Hi,

With Exim as the MTA and Fetchmail as the POP agent, I'm having the
following problem:

$ fetchmail -v -a -u my_id

seems to download correctly all mail stored in my ISP, but I always get
to read (with Mutt) all messages EXCEPT FOR one.  Since fetchmail
downloads a number "x" of mail messages, and then I can only see "x-1",
I imagine this being a problem with exim.

Can anyone help with this?
Also, could anyone explain to me how do I get exim to work with procmail
and the .forward file?

TIA

P.S.  Just in case it helps, this is how I have exim.conf configured to
deliver mail locally:

local_delivery:
driver = appendfile
group = mail
mode = 0660
mode_fail_narrower = false
file = /home/user/Mail/mbox

and this is the only indication for .forward I've seen in exim.conf
(perhaps I should change it to something like `file = ~/.forward' or
`/home/user/.forward'?

userforward:
driver = forwardfile
no_verify
check_ancestor
file = .forward
modemask = 002
filter

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LILO Problem

1999-05-29 Thread Lorne Williams
Hi gang. I've read every scrap of documentation on lilo I can find *twice*,
and I'm still discombobulated. Here's my situation:

Dual boot Linux/Windoze, two IDE drives,
First drive
/dev/hda1 Win95
/dev/hda2 Linux /usr
/dev/hda3 Linux swap
Second drive
/dev/hdb1 Win data
/dev/hdb2 Linux /. vmlinuz image is on the root.

lilo.conf (this boots into Linux, but not into WinDos)
boot=/dev/hda1
root=/dev/hdb2
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
delay=20
image=/vmlinuz
label=Linux
read-only
other=/dev/hda1
label=Win

I've trashed my first drive twice now fooling with this. Debian setup craps
out because my root partition is on the second drive. Setup leaves me with
most of the above, but with a blank boot= line. I added the two lines at the
bottom.

Am I close?
TIA, Lorne.


HP LJ 6P setup?

1999-05-29 Thread Lance Hoffmeyer
I am trying to useg magicfilter with an HP Laserjet 6pse.  It does not seem 
that magicfilter has a filter for a 6P.
Can someone tell me how to set this up?  I am assuming that all I need to type 
is lpr 'file' to print a file.  Does this also apply to postscript files? i.e. 
lpr file.ps?

Thanks 

lance


Re: HAMM -> SLINK

1999-05-29 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, May 29, 1999 at 04:44:37PM -0400, Matthew McFarlane wrote:
> I  have HAMM installed. I have the slink distro files. what's the best
> way to upgrade (apt?) and how?

apt-get dist-upgrade

There is an upgrade guide somewhere in the top level directory
structure. 

Bob

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Re: make menuconfig (potato)

1999-05-29 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, May 29, 1999 at 01:55:37PM -0500, Brad wrote:
> On Sat, 29 May 1999, Johan Pettersson wrote:
> 
> > Hello! 
> > I have uppgraded from slink to potato (I now understand the word
> > unstable=)
> > And downloaded kernel 2.2.9. But when I type menuconfig I have got
> > following
> > error mess.
> > 
> > rm -f include/asm
> > ( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm)
> > make -C scripts/lxdialog all
> > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog'
> > gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -DLOCALE 
> > -DCURSES_LOC=""   -c lxdialog.c -o lxdialog.o
> > In file included from lxdialog.c:22:
> > dialog.h:29: curses.h: No such file or directory
> > make[1]: *** [lxdialog.o] Error 1
> > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog'
> > 
> > from what I understand it can not find dialog.h and curses.h!
> 
> The error message actually says that dialog.h is looking for curses.h and
> can't find it. Do you have the libncurses4-dev package installed?

I have a related question:

Why are the menuconfig boxes now shown with ascii characters (*, |,
etc.) instead of real lines as in earlier versions? 

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Re: CAD-55D

1999-05-29 Thread Andrei Ivanov
> Hello,
> 
> Does anyone know about the vert refresh and hor sync rate, KTX CAD-55D 14"?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Kyle

You can check the docs for X first. Then there are some web databases for
monitors.
Here is one, for example: http://hawks.ha.md.us/hardware/monitor.html

Try the manufacturer page as well.

Just plain start guessing from the smallest settings. That 14" will not do
better than 1024x768, and it will not have anything more than 31.5-48.5 /
50-90 (At least all 3 14" monitors that I have don't go above that).
But this guessing method is the last-case scenario, you don't wan tto
start doing that until you know for sure that nobody can help with exact
settings.

Andrei




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CAD-55D

1999-05-29 Thread Kyle Landon



Hello,
 
Does anyone know about the vert refresh and hor sync rate, KTX 
CAD-55D 14"?
 
Thank you,
 
Kyle


Sound devices missing

1999-05-29 Thread Mark Nellemann
Hi !

Whenever I install a Debian (slink or potato), it seems that the sound
devices (/dev/dsp, /dev/mixer, ..) is missing.  So I install the devices
with a script from a 2.0.x kernel found in Documentation/sound.

Am I wrong or is this the right thing to do ?


Regards ..

Mark Nellemann


Re: Compiling Pine 4.10

1999-05-29 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, May 29, 1999 at 02:21:38PM +, Adilson dos Santos Dantas wrote:
> Hello Debian users!
> 
> I´m trying to compile Pine 4.10 in a slink. But I have some problems. 
> When I complile Pine. I found this message:
> 
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot open -ltermcap: No such file or directory
> 
> I change the value from termcap to terminfo. But I found the 
> following message:
> 
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot open -lterminfo: No such file or directory
> 
> What can I do for compiling and installing this version of Pine here? I 
> cannot find any *.deb file in www.debian.org
The following files are in project/experimental:

pine_4.10-0.diff.gz
pine_4.10-0.dsc
pine_4.10-0.orig.tar.gz
 

IIRC, you also need to install dpkg-dev and run

dpkg-source -x pine_4.10-0.dsc

cd into pine_4.10 and run (as root)

debian/rules binary

This should create a .deb package, which you can install.

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Re: HAMM -> SLINK

1999-05-29 Thread Rick Macdonald
yOn Sat, 29 May 1999, Matthew McFarlane wrote:

> I  have HAMM installed. I have the slink distro files. what's the best
> way to upgrade (apt?) and how?

The instructions are in the file main/Release-Notes.

I think I added apt as a method in dselect, and then let dselect to its
thing.

...RickM...


Re: make menuconfig (potato)

1999-05-29 Thread Brad
On Sat, 29 May 1999, Johan Pettersson wrote:

> Hello! 
> I have uppgraded from slink to potato (I now understand the word
> unstable=)
> And downloaded kernel 2.2.9. But when I type menuconfig I have got
> following
> error mess.
> 
> rm -f include/asm
> ( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm)
> make -C scripts/lxdialog all
> make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog'
> gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -DLOCALE 
> -DCURSES_LOC=""   -c lxdialog.c -o lxdialog.o
> In file included from lxdialog.c:22:
> dialog.h:29: curses.h: No such file or directory
> make[1]: *** [lxdialog.o] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog'
> 
> from what I understand it can not find dialog.h and curses.h!

The error message actually says that dialog.h is looking for curses.h and
can't find it. Do you have the libncurses4-dev package installed?


RE[2]: Exim filters instead of procmail?

1999-05-29 Thread Phillip Deackes
Pollywog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Fetchmail can get your mail for you and deliver it to port 25 (to
> Exim).
> That is what I do.  Then use an Exim .forward file to do what you are
> doing
> with Procmail.  There is filtering documentation at
> http://www.exim.org and
> there are also sample filters on their ftp site.

Thank you for your help. After having a look on the exim web site and
delving into FAQs and suchlike I have now come up with a working system.

It was not easy to find a whole sample .forward file though. Everywhere
I could see sample sinippets, like one filter rule, but I was't sure how
to put the whole file together. I didn't realise that each filter
statement starts with elif  (if for the first) and the whole lot
ends with endif. Now that shows the lack of programmer in me!!!

Thanks again.


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HAMM -> SLINK

1999-05-29 Thread Matthew McFarlane
I  have HAMM installed. I have the slink distro files. what's the best
way to upgrade (apt?) and how?

Matthew McFarlane
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Re: [PLUG] KPPP

1999-05-29 Thread John Hasler
John Bagdanoff writes:
> OH, MAN!!  You mean I have to install _REDHAT AND EMACS_ to find the
> fountain of youth??!!

No.  Just run 'apt-get install lazarus'.

You'll need the appropriate sources.list line, of course.
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PGP public key servers

1999-05-29 Thread Rene Mayrhofer
Hi

I am trying to upload my PGP public key on a public key server. The PGP 5
documentation found under /usr/doc/pgp5i/README claims that PGP5 can interact
with key servers, but it does not say how to do this.

Has anybody done this already ?
Rene

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PGP(D/H): B77F 51A8 B046 87A6 4D61  2C5D 742F F433 6732 E4DC
PGP(RSA): 5D D4 FD A6 CE AF 4B 82  67 7F 59 89 58 CA 61 0D
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Re: MPEG-3

1999-05-29 Thread Lazarus Long
On Saturday, May 29, 1999 at 08:28:18 +1000, Damien Love wrote:
 > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > X-UIDL: a8a5be96779e7bfa38df9e37c980d56d
 > 
 > BladeEnc - http://home8.swipnet.se/~w-82625/

That site states it requires frames to access it. :(
(Why do people do that?)

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Re: Lexmark is less than helpful :

1999-05-29 Thread wmccall
My lexmark Optra e310 has native postscript support and emulates pcl6.
<$350.  I shopped and bought it for exactly that reason.  Works fine
on NT also.

It seems rather normal to check if desired hardware works on your
system before buying.  

there is also a compatability database at suse.com to prevent future
disasters.

On Fri, 28 May 1999 20:21:08 GMT, you wrote:

>On Fri, 28 May 1999 13:11:12 -0400, you wrote:
>>I had a conversation with a dealer, and he assured me
>>that Lexmark supports Linux...
>
>I am sure that Lexmark's PostScript printers work with Linux :-/
>
>Greetings
>Marc
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Compiling Pine 4.10

1999-05-29 Thread Adilson dos Santos Dantas
Hello Debian users!

I´m trying to compile Pine 4.10 in a slink. But I have some problems.
When I complile Pine. I found this message:

/usr/bin/ld: cannot open -ltermcap: No such file or directory

I change the value from termcap to terminfo. But I found the
following message:

/usr/bin/ld: cannot open -lterminfo: No such file or directory

What can I do for compiling and installing this version of Pine here? I
cannot find any *.deb file in www.debian.org

  []´s

   Adilson

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Re: GNOME update for Debian 2.1 (slink) released

1999-05-29 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "M" == Morgoth3  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

M> I am trying to install GNOME onto my other computer from floppies.
M> What is the easiest way to do this?

Eek. This is no fun. Especially as some packages won't fit on one
floppy. I never did something like that before, so I can't help you
here.

M> I went to the url given with the original email, and it talked
M> about task* packages, yet they aren't on the FTP site.  What do I
M> do?  Thanks.

Unfortunately, somehow the syncronisation hit the wrong directory :-(
This will be fixed monday at latest. Sorry for this.

In the meantime, use one of the following sources.list lines:

deb http://www.debian.org/~jim/debian-gtk-gnome/gnome-stage-slink slink main

deb ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/gnome-1.0 slink main

Ciao,
Martin


Anyone need KDE install notes?

1999-05-29 Thread Barry Kauler
I've just installed KDE, from
http://snowcrash.tdyc.com/
using apt-get.

If there are other newbies out there who don't
know how to install KDE, email me directly
(not via the list) and if there's interest, I'll create
a web page.

I'm pleased to have KDE up and running. I use it
on my Red Hat system. It is very sophisticated, and
rock solid -- stable.
The file manager kfm is an excellent web browser, 
and there's kmail and knews -- who needs
Netscape? -- though a WYSIWYG HTML editor
is missing from the KDE suite.

Are we going to see KDE in Potato, when it uses
Qt library version 2.0? (which is supposed to be
"free").

Regards,
Barry Kauler


Re: emacs confused about alt and meta

1999-05-29 Thread Michael Stenner
The answer to this is interesting and should be in the docs somewhere,
but I sure couldn't find it.

Emacs DOES NOT seem to care about KEYSYMs at all.  It is only interested
in the Modifiers.

As far as emacs is concerned  MOD1 = META and MOD4 = ALT
You can (using xmodmap) have MOD1 and MOD4 generated by whatever keysym
you want (Alt_L, Meta_R, underscore).

SPECIFICS TO MY PROBLEM:
MOD1 was generated by Alt_R, MOD4 wasn't generated at all.

I hope this is of use to future generations :)

-Michael

P.S.  Thanks for the help, Jens.

On Fri, 28 May 1999, Michael Stenner wrote:

>emacs seems to want to interpret ALT as META and ignore META altogether.
>
>I found no mention of this in the emacs docs.  I'm pretty convinced that
>it's an emacs issue:  I've used xev to confirm that it's getting the
>appropriate keysyms, so when I say it interprets ALT as META, what I
>mean is:  It gets the ALT keysym, but behaves as if I pushed META. 
>
>Summary:
>
>Keysymsemacs behavior
>ALT-x  M-x
>META-x x
>
>I've used xmodmap to change the keysyms that are sent, but that doesn't
>change the way emacs interprets them.  (Does emacs truly look at keysyms
>or does it use keycodes?)
>
>I've also followed the advice from a thread (included below) that
>heppened a while back, to no avail.
>
>suggestions are welcome :)
>
>   -Michael
>
>REPOSTED FROM PREVIOUS THREAD
>=
>  Re: Emacs and the ALT key.
> _
>   
> * To: Havoc Pennington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * Subject: Re: Emacs and the ALT key.
> * From: "Jens B. Jorgensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 10:04:27 -0500
> * CC: "Allen B. Riddell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> * Organization: Business Data Services, Inc.
> * References:
>   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> _
>   
>I posted a lengthy description of how to deal with this back in August
>(the problem was introduced with hamm). I'll repost the content here:
>
>This problem has come up so many times since hamm started getting used
>that it almost merits its own HOWTO. What's happened is that you've
>upgraded X and now you are using the XKEYBOARD extension. As you've
>noticed, the ALT key now does ALT and the "windows" key is now the
>META key. I've argued several times that this is a bug since it
>changes behavior. Alas no one listens to this raving madman. Where's
>whatcha do (as root):
>
>sed -e 's/Alt_L/Foo_L/' -e 's/Alt_R/Foo_R/' <\
>/usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/us |\
>sed -e 's/Meta_L/Alt_L/' -e 's/Meta_R/Alt_R/' |\
>sed -e 's/Foo_L/Meta_L/' -e 's/Foo_R/Meta_R/' >\
>/usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/us.new
>
>mv /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/us /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/us.old
>mv /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/us.new /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/us
>
>(Now restart X and Things should work normally.
>
>Michael Symalla wrote:
>
>> Dear Debian users,
>>
>> can anyone help me to let my Alt-key be the metakey in emacs? Now I am
>> using the ESC key, which works fine but is not as comfortable as the
>> ALT
>> key.
>>
>> Thanks a lot.
>> --
>> Bye
>>  Mitch
>
>Havoc Pennington wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 12 May 1999, Allen B. Riddell wrote:
>> >
>> > the ALT key (on my PC keyboard) doesn't seem to work in emacs.. It
>> > works in
>> > netscape -- and aside from that, I have absolutely no problems at
>> > all with
>> > anything...
>> >
>>
>> Probably the "Windows" key (if you have one) is bound to the Meta
>> keysym,
>> which is what Emacs is looking for; I don't think Emacs uses the Alt
>> keysym at all by default. If you don't have a Windows key, you need to
>> move Meta to some other key of your choice. (Many people have the
>> physical
>> Alt key send both Alt and Meta keysyms, which is technically wrong but
>> works nice in practice, since few apps use both keysyms. However,
>> XEmacs
>> insists on complaining about it every time you start up.)
>>
>> That said, I'm not sure how to do this without Xmodmap. Perhaps it
>> will
>> help to know what you're trying to achieve though. :-)
>>
>> Havoc
>
>
>
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Re: Exim filters instead of procmail?

1999-05-29 Thread Dave Swegen
I believe you will find all the documentation you need for this is in
/usr/doc/exim/filter.txt.gz. HTH.

Cheers
Dave

On Sat, May 29, 1999 at 16:22 +0100, Phillip Deackes wrote:
> I am now successfully using exim instead of sendmail. I use fetchmail
> and procmail for fetching my mail from my IP's POP server and sorting it
> into folders. I understand exim has its own mechanism for sorting
> incoming mail - can fetchmail pass mail onto exim and get exim to sort
> it? Can anyone point me to an appropriate document, FAQ, whatever which
> would explain what I would have to do to set it all up?
> 
> Many thanks.
> 
> 
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Re: GNOME update for Debian 2.1 (slink) released

1999-05-29 Thread Morgoth3
I am trying to install GNOME onto my other computer from floppies.  What is 
the easiest way to do this?  I went to the url given with the original email, 
and it talked about task* packages, yet they aren't on the FTP site.  What do 
I do?  Thanks.


RE: Netscape 4.6 crashes

1999-05-29 Thread Pollywog

On 29-May-99 Randy Edwards wrote:
>I'm running potato with potato's netscape 4.6 (smotif).  Often, though
> not 100% consistently, Netscape will not exit properly when I do a "File ->
> Exit" (Alt-Q) and/or click on the X widget to close the window.
> 
>I know this is happening because the next time I go into Netscape, all of
> the mail folders' + signs are collapsed and whatever folder I was in when I
> closed out will have ??? instead of the number of messages.  I've never had
> this behavior on other versions of Netscape, and I have this happening on
> multiple machines.
> 
>The question I have is, am I alone in this problem?  Anyone see this
> happening?

I am using Communicator (the full install) 4.6 on Potato and thus far, I have
no problems with it.

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RE: Exim filters instead of procmail?

1999-05-29 Thread Pollywog

On 29-May-99 Phillip Deackes wrote:
> I am now successfully using exim instead of sendmail. I use fetchmail
> and procmail for fetching my mail from my IP's POP server and sorting it
> into folders. I understand exim has its own mechanism for sorting
> incoming mail - can fetchmail pass mail onto exim and get exim to sort
> it? Can anyone point me to an appropriate document, FAQ, whatever which
> would explain what I would have to do to set it all up?

Fetchmail can get your mail for you and deliver it to port 25 (to Exim).
That is what I do.  Then use an Exim .forward file to do what you are doing
with Procmail.  There is filtering documentation at http://www.exim.org and
there are also sample filters on their ftp site.

As for fetchmail, I run it as a daemon when online and I have something like:

poll pop3.myisp.net with proto POP3
   user "mylogin" there with password "mypassword" is
[EMAIL PROTECTED] here


In my .fetchmailrc
Use fetchmailconf to assist you if needed.

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Re: Non-X11 jpeg viewer desired

1999-05-29 Thread Brian Butler
Dan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi.  Is there a package in Debian to view jpegs which
> does NOT use X11, GNOME or any other stuff like that? 

In the past a program called seejpeg has floated around; it does what you're
looking for.  When executed on cmdline it will display the image(s) you ask
for on a new virtual console.

As for finding it debianized, you're on your own!  

Good luck.

Brian Butler
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Re: Non-X11 jpeg viewer desired

1999-05-29 Thread David B.Teague

On Fri, 28 May 1999, Dan Smith wrote:
> Hi.  Is there a package in Debian to view jpegs which
> does NOT use X11, GNOME or any other stuff like that? 
> Please send replies to me directly, rather than to the
> list.  Thanx
Dan

zgv displays jpeg and gif files, perhpas other formats.

zgv is available in potato as
   .../dists/potato/main/binary-i386/graphics/zgv_3.1-1.deb
and in slink as
   .../dists/slink/main/binary-i386/graphics/zgv_3.0-4.deb 

zgv requires svgalib. You have to set values for your monitor in
/etc/vga/libvga.config. I had to set the config to force vga,
inspite the the allegation that that my chip (tvga 9400) is
supported.

Please read the documentation. 

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Re: MPEG-3

1999-05-29 Thread Kenneth Scharf
I've also found the source to 8hz-mp3 (see the cd recording howto). 
bladeenc is a little slower than 8hz-mp3, but maybe gives higher
quality.  The bladeenc site indicates that they are fighting patent
infringments so it might disappear soon, thou he is optimistic that
swedish patent laws might protect him.  I hope so because it sounds
like the next version (if there is one) will go GPL.  BTW stampede has
the source to 8hz-mp3 on their site as well.

--- Damien Love <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, May 24, 1999 at 05:25:33AM -0700, Kenneth
> Scharf wrote:
> 
> > way, 'make', 'make install', and oops 'chmod +s
> x11amp'.  Great this
> > works! (Bob's interview is worth the work to hear)
> X11amp is a playback
> > only though?  What software is available for
> recording mp3's?  Now I'd
> > like to compile my own cd's. (hmm, I can fit
> between 10-20 cd's worth
> > on one cdr in mp3, and give that cdr drive
> something to do)
> > Any ideas?
> 
> BladeEnc - http://home8.swipnet.se/~w-82625/
> 
> Regards
> 
> Damien
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Re: getting out of fvwm

1999-05-29 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, May 29, 1999 at 09:28:11PM +0800, Barry Kauler wrote:
> I'm *still* installing my first Debian Linux!
> I got X windows running, with default window
> manager fvwm, but next time I logged in it
> didn't stop at the commandline --- went straight
> into graphics mode and gave me a login window
> for fvwm.
> In Red Hat, this is controlled by /etc/inittab, which
> sets the initial runlevel to 3.  5 is required to launch
> X.
> In Debian, inittab has default runlevel set to 2, so
> why is it launching straight into fvwm?
> Does anyone know what config file needs to be
> changed so I can login to commandline only?
> 
> Also when I exit from fvwm, refuses to exit to
> the commandline. I'm back at that darn login
> window again. Even 
> won't get me out.

You have installed xdm.  This gives you the X login screen.  To get out
of X, type ctrl-alt-F1 and you should have a command-line login prompt.
If you do not want to have the xdm login in the future, type (as root)

dpkg -r xdm 

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Re: [PLUG] KPPP

1999-05-29 Thread John Bagdanoff
Sorry, this was meant for my local LUG.  I should use my glasses when
I'm sending messages.
John

John Bagdanoff wrote:
> 
> OH, MAN!!  You mean I have to install _REDHAT AND EMACS_ to find the
> fountain of youth??!!
> I'd rather use the energy to dig my grave :-)  (<--note the smiley,
> Nathaniel)
> 
> John
> 
> "W. Reilly Cooley" wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 24 May 1999, John Bagdanoff wrote:
> >
> > > This was a feeble attempt at humor referring people to read the
> > > manual/manpage on age-reversal.  Of course there isn't one.at
> > > least I haven't found it yet :-)
> >
> > There is!  But it's not installed by default into the man page heirarchy.
> > If you have Emacs installed, you can view it with (on Red Hat 5.2):
> >
> > $ less /usr/share/emacs/20.3/etc/sex.6
> >
> > Wil
> > --
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> > "Linux and Internet solutions"
> 
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Re: Procmail

1999-05-29 Thread Konstantin Kivi
Daniel, first of all I would recommend 
read output from  
man procmail,man procmailrc, man procmailex

I an also show my .procmailrc file
that is made after examples from the manual

==

:0 c
backup

:0 ci
| cd backup && rm -f dummy `ls -t | sed -e 1,50d`


:0:
* ^Sender:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mail/ksi-linux-mail

:0:
* ^X-Mailing-List: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mail/debian-lists

:0:
* ^From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
/dev/null


==

backup is existing directory
others are files or directories as you wish


> 
> Anyone knows where to get info or a howto for procmail?
> I am specially interested in the organization for incoming mail into
> separate folders since Netscape filters wont work right for me and I
> have tried everything to make them work right!
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Daniel
> 
> 
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Exim filters instead of procmail?

1999-05-29 Thread Phillip Deackes
I am now successfully using exim instead of sendmail. I use fetchmail
and procmail for fetching my mail from my IP's POP server and sorting it
into folders. I understand exim has its own mechanism for sorting
incoming mail - can fetchmail pass mail onto exim and get exim to sort
it? Can anyone point me to an appropriate document, FAQ, whatever which
would explain what I would have to do to set it all up?

Many thanks.


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Re: [PLUG] KPPP

1999-05-29 Thread John Bagdanoff
OH, MAN!!  You mean I have to install _REDHAT AND EMACS_ to find the
fountain of youth??!!
I'd rather use the energy to dig my grave :-)  (<--note the smiley,
Nathaniel)

John

"W. Reilly Cooley" wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 24 May 1999, John Bagdanoff wrote:
> 
> > This was a feeble attempt at humor referring people to read the
> > manual/manpage on age-reversal.  Of course there isn't one.at
> > least I haven't found it yet :-)
> 
> There is!  But it's not installed by default into the man page heirarchy.
> If you have Emacs installed, you can view it with (on Red Hat 5.2):
> 
> $ less /usr/share/emacs/20.3/etc/sex.6
> 
> Wil
> --
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> Naked Ape Consultinghttp://nakedape.navi.net
> "Linux and Internet solutions"

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Re: Non-X11 jpeg viewer desired

1999-05-29 Thread Sean
And that's a problem???

Sean

Laurent PICOULEAU wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Fri, 28 May, 1999 à 09:42:20PM -0700, Dan Smith wrote:
> > Hi.  Is there a package in Debian to view jpegs which
> > does NOT use X11, GNOME or any other stuff like that?
> > Please send replies to me directly, rather than to the
> > list.  Thanx
>
> zgv but it uses svgalib
>
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Netscape 4.6 crashes

1999-05-29 Thread Randy Edwards
   I'm running potato with potato's netscape 4.6 (smotif).  Often, though
not 100% consistently, Netscape will not exit properly when I do a "File ->
Exit" (Alt-Q) and/or click on the X widget to close the window.

   I know this is happening because the next time I go into Netscape, all of
the mail folders' + signs are collapsed and whatever folder I was in when I
closed out will have ??? instead of the number of messages.  I've never had
this behavior on other versions of Netscape, and I have this happening on
multiple machines.

   The question I have is, am I alone in this problem?  Anyone see this
happening?

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Re: HELP!!!

1999-05-29 Thread ktb
Kyle Landon wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> First of all I am a newbie.  Second I cleared my c: and wipped win and all
> files gone.  Not to upset about that, I just want to get Debian working.  I
> can log on as my superuser and user so I can access the program.  I cannot
> seem to do much at the $. 

A few other good books are "A Practical Guide to Linux" "Running Linux"
and "The Debian Linux User's Guide" which you can purchase or view
online at Linux Press,
 http://www.linuxpress.com/debusered2.html

Also go through the Tutorial and other documentation at debian.org.
hth,
kent

> I run dselect with my root account but cannot
> find the packages.cd.  I thought Debian had a graphical interface.  What
> might I be doing or have done that is wrong?  I get the error message
> /dev/hda1 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Kyle
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Re: Getting Gnome themes respected when xhosting

1999-05-29 Thread Andreas Persenius
Quoting Eric House ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Scenario: Machine 1 running Gnome with theme 1; machine 2 running Gnome
> with theme 2.  I run gtk/themes-aware application on machine 1 but
> displayed on machine 2 via xhosting.
> 
> Expected result: application is rendered with theme 2 like all the other
> windows on the desktop.  This is the proper model as established by X.

No, only the window borders will look the same.

> Actual result: application shows up with theme 1 and so looks different
> from all the other apps on machine 2's display.  If I change themes on
> machine 1, the application's appearance on machine 2 changes.
> 
> Is there anything I can do about this?

If you run an application remotely, the entire window is exported to
your machine including the theme used on the remote machine. If you want
your apps on machine 1 to look the same as those on machine 2, you need
to either:
 1) Install the same themes on both computers.
 2) or export your themes _and_ ~/.gtkrc on machine 2 via some kind of
network file system.


At least, this is how believe it works.

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Re: Procmail

1999-05-29 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: Procmail
Date: Sat, May 29, 1999 at 02:51:00PM +0200

In reply to:Daniel

Quoting Daniel([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Anyone knows where to get info or a howto for procmail?
> I am specially interested in the organization for incoming mail into
> separate folders since Netscape filters wont work right for me and I
> have tried everything to make them work right!
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Daniel

enter- Teaching a man to fish mode:

locate procmail

find / -iname procmail\*


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Re: How do I apply a kernel patch?

1999-05-29 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: How do I apply a kernel patch?
Date: Sat, May 29, 1999 at 01:35:17PM +0200

In reply to:Johann Spies at Johann

Quoting Johann Spies at Johann([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> According to the Kernel-HOWTO I should do the following:
> 
>   So, continuing with the example above, let's suppose that you have
>   `patch46.gz' in /usr/src. cd to /usr/src  and do a `zcat patch46.gz |
>   patch -p0' (or `patch -p0 < patch46' if the patch isn't compressed).
>   You'll see things whizz by (or flutter by, if your system is that
>   slow) telling you that it is trying to apply hunks, and whether it
>   succeeds or not. 
> 
> When I follow these instructions the following happens:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED](1)$ cat patch-2.2.7-ac4 | patch -p0
> can't find file to patch at input line 4
> Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
> The text leading up to this was:
> --
> |diff -u --new-file --recursive --exclude-from ../exclude 
> linux.vanilla/Documentation/00-INDEX linux.ac/Documentation/00-INDEX
> |--- linux.vanilla/Documentation/00-INDEX Tue Feb 23 14:21:32 1999
> |+++ linux.ac/Documentation/00-INDEX  Fri May  7 16:34:31 1999
> --
> File to patch: linux/*
> Skip this patch? [y] 
> Skipping patch.
> 5 out of 5 hunks ignored
> can't find file to patch at input line 57
> Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
> The text leading up to this was:
> --
> |diff -u --new-file --recursive --exclude-from ../exclude 
> linux.vanilla/Documentation/ARM-README linux.ac/Documentation/ARM-README
> |--- linux.vanilla/Documentation/ARM-README   Sun Nov  8 15:08:49 1998
> |+++ linux.ac/Documentation/ARM-READMEFri May  7 16:34:44 1999
> --
> File to patch: 
> 
> 
> I have read the man page for patch and it does not help me.
> 
> Johann
> 
> 

VT1 root-Deb-Slink: pwd
/usr/src/linux
VT1 root-Deb-Slink: patch -p1 < /program/kernels/2.2/patch-2.2.9

Hope This Helps

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Re: HELP!!!

1999-05-29 Thread Andrei Ivanov
> Hi all,
> 
> First of all I am a newbie.  Second I cleared my c: and wipped win and all 
> files gone.  Not to upset about that, I just want to get Debian working.  I 
> can log on as my superuser and user so I can access the program. 

Hmm, what program? You mean Linux itself? 

 I cannot 
> seem to do much at the $.  

Get a book like 'Linux in  a Nutshell". $ is a command prompt, hats where
you you type your commands.


I run dselect with my root account but cannot 
> find the packages.cd.  I thought Debian had a graphical interface.

Debian has graphical interface, it's X. Just download all the needed
files/install from the CD, you will have all the GUI you need.

>  What 
> might I be doing or have done that is wrong?  I get the error message 
> /dev/hda1 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced.

Unproper shutdown (Linux is sensitive to things like hitting reset/power
button). If you need to reboot, use 'reboot', if you need to shutdown, use
'poweroff'. Everything will be done for you (disk umounting, etc.)

Andrew

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Re: Floppy drive problem.

1999-05-29 Thread John Foster
"N. Raghavendra" wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am a Debian newbie and have the following problem with my floppy drives.
> There are two of them: a 1.44 MB floppy drive and an unused 1.2 MB floppy
> drive.  In the BIOS setup I have configured the 1.44 MB drive as A: and
> the other floppy drive as B:. But Linux seems to reverse this order: it
> sees the 1.2 MB drive as the first floppy drive (/dev/fd0) and the 1.44 MB
> one as the second floppy drive (/dev/fd1).
> 
> One consequence of this is that at the end of installing Debian (hamm), I
> was unable to make a custom boot disk for my system, because when the
> installation program asked me to insert a blank floppy, I put a 1.44 MB
> floppy in the drive, and it said something like "Making boot floppy
> failed. Check that the floppy isn't write-protected and is in the correct
> drive". The same thing happened when I tried the mkboot command later on.
> 
> Is there a way of making Linux see my 1.44 MB drive as /dev/fd0 and the
> other one as /dev/fd1? I apologize in case this is an old question,
> already answered.
_
Change the order in your bios setup. Linux will take it's que from the
bios.

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Re: getting out of fvwm

1999-05-29 Thread ktb
Barry Kauler wrote:
> 
> I'm *still* installing my first Debian Linux!
> I got X windows running, with default window
> manager fvwm, but next time I logged in it
> didn't stop at the commandline --- went straight
> into graphics mode and gave me a login window
> for fvwm.
> In Red Hat, this is controlled by /etc/inittab, which
> sets the initial runlevel to 3.  5 is required to launch
> X.
> In Debian, inittab has default runlevel set to 2, so
> why is it launching straight into fvwm?
> Does anyone know what config file needs to be
> changed so I can login to commandline only?

I forgot to mention that the package XDM is controlling this.  Search
for XDM in recent archives and you will find your answer:)
kent


> 
> Also when I exit from fvwm, refuses to exit to
> the commandline. I'm back at that darn login
> window again. Even 
> won't get me out.
> 
> regards,
> Barry Kauler
> 
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Re: getting out of fvwm

1999-05-29 Thread ktb
Barry Kauler wrote:
> 
> I'm *still* installing my first Debian Linux!
> I got X windows running, with default window
> manager fvwm, but next time I logged in it
> didn't stop at the commandline --- went straight
> into graphics mode and gave me a login window
> for fvwm.

This question is asked repeatedly.  A quick search at the Debian User's
archives will net you the info your looking for,
http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/


> In Red Hat, this is controlled by /etc/inittab, which
> sets the initial runlevel to 3.  5 is required to launch
> X.
> In Debian, inittab has default runlevel set to 2, so
> why is it launching straight into fvwm?
> Does anyone know what config file needs to be
> changed so I can login to commandline only?
> 
> Also when I exit from fvwm, refuses to exit to
> the commandline. I'm back at that darn login
> window again. Even 
> won't get me out.

To get a console from X just hit ctrl+alt+F1 through F6.  To go back to
X Alt+F7.  
That is the default set up anyhow.
hth,
kent


Re: Non-X11 jpeg viewer desired

1999-05-29 Thread Laurent PICOULEAU
Hi,

On Fri, 28 May, 1999 à 09:42:20PM -0700, Dan Smith wrote:
> Hi.  Is there a package in Debian to view jpegs which
> does NOT use X11, GNOME or any other stuff like that? 
> Please send replies to me directly, rather than to the
> list.  Thanx

zgv but it uses svgalib

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Re: getting out of fvwm

1999-05-29 Thread Armin Wegner
On Sat, May 29, 1999 at 09:28:11PM +0800, Barry Kauler wrote:
> I'm *still* installing my first Debian Linux!
> I got X windows running, with default window
> manager fvwm, but next time I logged in it
> didn't stop at the commandline --- went straight
> into graphics mode and gave me a login window
> for fvwm.
> In Red Hat, this is controlled by /etc/inittab, which
> sets the initial runlevel to 3.  5 is required to launch
> X.
> In Debian, inittab has default runlevel set to 2, so
> why is it launching straight into fvwm?
> Does anyone know what config file needs to be
> changed so I can login to commandline only?
> 
> Also when I exit from fvwm, refuses to exit to
> the commandline. I'm back at that darn login
> window again. Even 
> won't get me out.

Hi Barry,

 switches to the command line.
 switches back to X.

Armin


Re: apt's sources.list

1999-05-29 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 29 May 1999 03:56:49 +1000, you wrote:
>There are very comprehensive docs in /usr/doc/apt.

I don't feel that
|[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/doc/apt/examples > cat sources.list
|# See sources.list(5) for more information
|# Remember that you can only use http, ftp or file URIs
|deb http://ftp1.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
|deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable non-US
|[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/doc/apt/examples >

is a comprehensive example for sources.list. sources.list(5) has not
nearly enough examples and descriptions what examples do.

>You need the latest apt
>in potato though...

|[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/doc/apt/examples > dpkg --list apt
|Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
|| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
||/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
|||/ NameVersionDescription
|+++-===-==-
|ii  apt 0.3.6.1Advanced front-end for dpkg
|[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/doc/apt/examples >

Greetings
Marc

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getting out of fvwm

1999-05-29 Thread Barry Kauler
I'm *still* installing my first Debian Linux!
I got X windows running, with default window
manager fvwm, but next time I logged in it
didn't stop at the commandline --- went straight
into graphics mode and gave me a login window
for fvwm.
In Red Hat, this is controlled by /etc/inittab, which
sets the initial runlevel to 3.  5 is required to launch
X.
In Debian, inittab has default runlevel set to 2, so
why is it launching straight into fvwm?
Does anyone know what config file needs to be
changed so I can login to commandline only?

Also when I exit from fvwm, refuses to exit to
the commandline. I'm back at that darn login
window again. Even 
won't get me out.

regards,
Barry Kauler



Re: Procmail

1999-05-29 Thread Remco van 't Veer
Procmail is well documented.  Look at the procmail(1), procmailex(5),
procmailrc(5) and procmailsc(5) manual pages using "man" (omit the
section number).

Regards,
Remco


On Sat, May 29, 1999 at 14:51, Daniel wrote:

> Anyone knows where to get info or a howto for procmail?
> I am specially interested in the organization for incoming mail into
> separate folders since Netscape filters wont work right for me and I
> have tried everything to make them work right!
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Daniel


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Procmail

1999-05-29 Thread Daniel
Anyone knows where to get info or a howto for procmail?
I am specially interested in the organization for incoming mail into
separate folders since Netscape filters wont work right for me and I
have tried everything to make them work right!

Thanks

Daniel


Re: Mattrox Millenium card

1999-05-29 Thread Nils-Erik Svangård
Hmm I think ggi has made  accelrated fb device for the millenium card.
well the you can run xggi and you hvae yourself an accelrated X on a
millenium card.
/nisse

On Fri, 28 May 1999, Ralf G. R. Bergs wrote:

> On Thu, 27 May 1999 23:50:11 -0700 (PDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >Oh the other hand.. Is the matrox card supported for 3D acceleration?
> 
> I fear it isn't. The G200 is driven by the SVGA X server, and to the best of 
> my knowledge this one doesn't use any "acceleration," like e.g. the S3 
> server.
> 
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potato - unstable?

1999-05-29 Thread Daniel
Hello!

It's me again.

For all of you, I apreciatte your concern and for having let me know
what really "unstable" means. Maybe I was being too exciting about
potato packages since I like a lot how my debian distro works and how it
is made. Well, what I really want to say to those of you who have read
me message is that what I mean is, as a user, potato has been as stable
to me as slink would have been, since I havent had any problems with
those unstable packages, I repeat, I am just a user, my computer does
not do anything special, nor ir a server or anything productive. I
update my linux system almost everyday. But I really know that for
people that are not just simple users like me they can be taking a risk
using some unstable packages.

Again, I apreciatte your comments, and sorry If I have transmitted a
wrong idea to some newbies.

Regards to everyone

Daniel


How do I apply a kernel patch?

1999-05-29 Thread Johann Spies at Johann
According to the Kernel-HOWTO I should do the following:

  So, continuing with the example above, let's suppose that you have
  `patch46.gz' in /usr/src. cd to /usr/src  and do a `zcat patch46.gz |
  patch -p0' (or `patch -p0 < patch46' if the patch isn't compressed).
  You'll see things whizz by (or flutter by, if your system is that
  slow) telling you that it is trying to apply hunks, and whether it
  succeeds or not. 

When I follow these instructions the following happens:

[EMAIL PROTECTED](1)$ cat patch-2.2.7-ac4 | patch -p0
can't find file to patch at input line 4
Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
The text leading up to this was:
--
|diff -u --new-file --recursive --exclude-from ../exclude 
linux.vanilla/Documentation/00-INDEX linux.ac/Documentation/00-INDEX
|--- linux.vanilla/Documentation/00-INDEX   Tue Feb 23 14:21:32 1999
|+++ linux.ac/Documentation/00-INDEXFri May  7 16:34:31 1999
--
File to patch: linux/*
Skip this patch? [y] 
Skipping patch.
5 out of 5 hunks ignored
can't find file to patch at input line 57
Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
The text leading up to this was:
--
|diff -u --new-file --recursive --exclude-from ../exclude 
linux.vanilla/Documentation/ARM-README linux.ac/Documentation/ARM-README
|--- linux.vanilla/Documentation/ARM-README Sun Nov  8 15:08:49 1998
|+++ linux.ac/Documentation/ARM-README  Fri May  7 16:34:44 1999
--
File to patch: 


I have read the man page for patch and it does not help me.

Johann




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why make partitions?

1999-05-29 Thread Remco van 't Veer
Hi,

Is the any technical reason why I should fdisk an extra IDE hdd and
not mkfs the whole thing at ones?  Apart from: "hdb: unknown partition
table" at boot time everything works perfectly..

Any thoughts?

Regards,
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RE: Debian hardware vendors

1999-05-29 Thread Robert
Check out www.linux.com
Its VA research. Not sure what they have but they advertise that their
website is powered bu Debian. They are a Linux Hardware vendor.
Robert
<


GNOME update for Debian 2.1 (slink) released

1999-05-29 Thread Martin Bialasinski

The Debian GNOME team has recompiled the GNOME packages, as present in
the Debian developement tree, for the stable Debian release 2.1 (slink).

This update contains the current GNOME core packages, as well as
current versions of GNOME aware applications and window managers. A
valueable new package for GNOME users, is the newly packaged GNOME
User's Guide.

As only security related updates are added to Debian's stable tree,
this update is a seperate entity.

To ease the installation for users new to GNOME, this update contains
several task packages, that install preselected sets of programms.

Upgrading an existing GNOME 0.3 installation using apt is also as easy
as running apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade.

More information and help on installing and using this GNOME update
can be found at http://www.gnome.org/start/getting_debian.shtml


Re: dselect wants to remove everything! Stop!

1999-05-29 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "BB" == Brendon Baumgartner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

BB> Anyone know why, everything in dselect is set to uninstall? 

Because you selected some new package (from unstable?) and refused to
upgrade some key package (libc6ß), so these packages can't be
installed any more? Or maybe you hit "-" on one of the section titles
in dselect.

BB> How do i reset the damn thing?

If you are still on the screen, hit Ctrl-c. Otherwise check
/var/lib/dpkg.

You should have multiple status* files which are backups of the
selection. So cp status-old status for example, to get the state in
this file.

Ciao,
Martin


Re: Modem/ISDN question

1999-05-29 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "RF" == Rene Feenstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

RF> I got my analog modem working a few weeks ago but now i', trying
RF> to setup my isdn modem = Teles 16.3 I got it included in the
RF> kernel and i can see it installing well but when I try to call out
RF> with it with pon isdn ( my pon config for the card since i use pon
RF> for the analog modem) I get the errormessage : NO MSN/EAZ^M

A Teles 16.3 is no modem, but a ISDN card. If you want to use the
Modem emulation commands, you have to set the MSN (as you can see) and 
the mode of operation. 

AT&es14=3 sets the Modem to syncPPP, the most common needed
Mode in Europe. without the s14=3, it does X75 operations.

Alternatively, install the isdnutils package to configure your card as 
a net device (well, a ISDN card _is_ a netwerk card). 

Ciao,
Martin


Re: closed bugs

1999-05-29 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "NC" == Nick Cabatoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

NC> Is there any way of getting complete bug reports (including those
NC> that have been closed) for a particular packages?  I think I've
NC> found a bug in librx1g/regexec(), and was hoping to verify that.

Check bugs.debian.org/librx1g

You can also request this pacge vie email. This is described in one of 
the instructions at bugs.debian.org (I think at developers
instructions on using the system).

Ciao,
Martin


Re: Potatoe - usable ?

1999-05-29 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "D" == Daniel  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

D> I really dont think Debian is ever being unstable...

You are not that long with Debian and are not that involved with the
developement, right? Sometimes there are even mails to debian-devel
explicitly asking not to update some packages as a upload is foobar.

Tracking unstable is not the thing to use in a stable work
environment, if you can't help yourself in some cases and if you don't
follow debian-devel.

It is called unstable for a valid reason.

Ciao,
Martin


Re: Official CDROM images

1999-05-29 Thread trapstep
On Fri, 28 May 1999, Charlie Hedlin wrote:
> I wanted to download the i386 and Alpha cdrom images, but do not seem to
> be able to connect to cdimage.debian.org (either http nor ftp).  These
> images don't seem to be on the standard ftp mirrors either.  I have

i got  at least the i386 images from one of the std-mirrors (one of the german
ones). the access to cdimage.debian.org is password restricted due to heavy
traffic (but this is explained at http://cdimage.debian.org)

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SV: HELP!!!

1999-05-29 Thread vw
Hi Kyle
Im a newbie too! I've got almost the same problem as you do. But: are you
installing from a CD? You might want to try specifying the path to the cd
when using the dselect command.
There seems (from my limited experience w/ dos and Linux) to be a problem w/
the partition table, some little flag or toggle must have gone wrong. I
tried a couple of times before it worked. If you still have a dos/windows
section (partition) on your harddisk, you should have three: one which is
dos (usually /dev/hda1) and two for Linux: a file system partition (e.g.
/dev/hda2) (which is where you store your stuff) and a swap partition (e.g.
/dev/hda3). This is the way it worked for me. (I had to install the thing
from the dos partition, since the machine aint got no cd-drive).
>From what I can gather from various sources of information, though I haven't
gotten as far as to installing the lot, it seems that linux is really "just"
a unix-like os, and if you want a graphical interface, you have to install
it. I believe it's called X-windows or just X. There is supposed to be both
win and mac emulators out there too.

> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra:  Kyle Landon [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sendt:29. maj 1999 09:03
> Til:  debian-user@lists.debian.org
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> Emne: HELP!!!
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> First of all I am a newbie.  Second I cleared my c: and wipped win and all
> 
> files gone.  Not to upset about that, I just want to get Debian working.
> I 
> can log on as my superuser and user so I can access the program.  I cannot
> 
> seem to do much at the $.  I run dselect with my root account but cannot 
> find the packages.cd.  I thought Debian had a graphical interface.  What 
> might I be doing or have done that is wrong?  I get the error message 
> /dev/hda1 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Kyle
> 
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make menuconfig (potato)

1999-05-29 Thread Johan Pettersson
Hello! 
I have uppgraded from slink to potato (I now understand the word
unstable=)
And downloaded kernel 2.2.9. But when I type menuconfig I have got
following
error mess.

rm -f include/asm
( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm)
make -C scripts/lxdialog all
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog'
gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -DLOCALE 
-DCURSES_LOC=""   -c lxdialog.c -o lxdialog.o
In file included from lxdialog.c:22:
dialog.h:29: curses.h: No such file or directory
make[1]: *** [lxdialog.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog'

from what I understand it can not find dialog.h and curses.h!

//thx Johan


Floppy drive problem.

1999-05-29 Thread N. Raghavendra
Hi,

I am a Debian newbie and have the following problem with my floppy drives.
There are two of them: a 1.44 MB floppy drive and an unused 1.2 MB floppy
drive.  In the BIOS setup I have configured the 1.44 MB drive as A: and
the other floppy drive as B:. But Linux seems to reverse this order: it
sees the 1.2 MB drive as the first floppy drive (/dev/fd0) and the 1.44 MB
one as the second floppy drive (/dev/fd1).

One consequence of this is that at the end of installing Debian (hamm), I
was unable to make a custom boot disk for my system, because when the
installation program asked me to insert a blank floppy, I put a 1.44 MB
floppy in the drive, and it said something like "Making boot floppy
failed. Check that the floppy isn't write-protected and is in the correct
drive". The same thing happened when I tried the mkboot command later on.

Is there a way of making Linux see my 1.44 MB drive as /dev/fd0 and the
other one as /dev/fd1? I apologize in case this is an old question,
already answered.

Many thanks,
Raghavendra.

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(1) Upgrade failure; (2) /usr/lib/man.conf

1999-05-29 Thread Michael Talbot-Wilson
Hello.  I've installed Debian from a Debian 1.3 CD and partly upgraded to
2.1 by downloading with apt.  This is my first encounter with Debian. 

(1) The upgrade failed because the ftp server hung up on a small number
of files.  They are represented in the partial directory.

How can I restart this process?  It seems that a server timeout is pretty
devastating in that there is no recovery and the upgrade aborts.  I got
messages like this: 

> Get:22 http://http.us.debian.org stable/main libdb2 2.4.14-1 [192kb]
> Err http://http.us.debian.org stable/main libdb2 2.4.14-1
>   Error reading from server - read (104 Connection reset by peer)
> Get:23 http://http.us.debian.org stable/main m4 1.4-9 [105kb]

I tried to find out what "--fix-missing" did, and eventually
discovered that it's not very useful, i.e. it doesn't make another
attempt to download the missing files.  Is there any automated way
of doing that or do I have do download them one at a time?

When I attempt to complete the operation by running dselect install
with the existing settings it seems to want to download every file
again.  It just downloaded 35 MB, failing on a few small files.  How
can I get it to just finish the job rather than starting all over
again?

(2) One of the packages I installed was man-db which is supposed to supply
the man pager and presumably its configuration file, /usr/lib/man.conf. 
But that file is missing (or is not installed), and running man dumps (I
assume) compressed data on the screen.  I can uncompress all the man
pages, or get a config file from somewhere else, but I guess dselect/apt
should be able to do this. 

Cheers...




HELP!!!

1999-05-29 Thread Kyle Landon

Hi all,

First of all I am a newbie.  Second I cleared my c: and wipped win and all 
files gone.  Not to upset about that, I just want to get Debian working.  I 
can log on as my superuser and user so I can access the program.  I cannot 
seem to do much at the $.  I run dselect with my root account but cannot 
find the packages.cd.  I thought Debian had a graphical interface.  What 
might I be doing or have done that is wrong?  I get the error message 
/dev/hda1 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced.


Thank you,

Kyle


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Re: How to find and install Gnome .debs?

1999-05-29 Thread Ed Cogburn
Alan Eugene Davis wrote:
> 
> I had Gnome working pretty nicely (installed using apt).  I have been
> using apt-get to upgrade my system regularly; one upgrade broke Gnome,
> and I couldn't  figure out which.  So I have purged all Gnome
> packages.
> 
> Are step my step instructions available somewhere for getting and
> installing Gnome .debs?
> 
> I have these lines  in /etc/apt/sources.list.
> 
> > deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
> > deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable non-US
> > deb http://www.debian.org/~mblevin/gnome-apt ./
> > deb http://www.debian.org/~bma enlightenment/
> > deb http://snowcrash.tdyc.com/debian potato rkrusty
> > deb http://www.debian.org/~jim/debian-gtk-gnome/gnome-stage-slink unstable 
> > main
> 
> I now note that the last line says "slink"; however this problem came
> along long before that.  Is the slink gnome incompatible with potato?
> 
> Thanks.


The order of install probably isn't the problem.  A recent post
on the GNOME mailing list mentioned an error that has been fixed
in the CVS, but obviously not gotten into the GNOME debs yet.  I
don't think GNOME is as stable as its v1.x version number
implies.  I had a problem with the interaction between GNOME and
Enlightenment which apparently was fixed by installing them in a
different order (GNOME first, then E).  The slw startup time
problem is still there, and probably won't be fixed until the
next, supposedly stable, version.


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Re: Potatoe - usable ?

1999-05-29 Thread Ed Cogburn
Daniel wrote:
> 
> To be honest... Potato is completely STABLE.. :) I am using it and I havent 
> had any
> problems so far, it just works great... I really dont think Debian is ever 
> being
> unstable...
> 
> Daniel


To be fair to all readers, especially newbies, this isn't good
advice to give.  The unstable branch that is being actively worked
on can become UNSTABLE at a moment's notice.  All it takes is a
recent upload of a possibly broken package (or packages in
conflict of some sort with one another), that ends up breaking
other things.  Apt/Dpkg in this situation will be confused by the
situtation untill the problem is rectified by a second upload of
the previously broken package(s).
In many cases its not the Deb maintaner's fault.  Packages in
unstable are often very recent versions of the upstream source
which may end up being the problem, because of a bug in the recent
code, or minor inconsistancy with an older package, a library
perhaps, that previously would work together correctly.
Often it only takes patience, i.e. wait for the situation on
ftp.debian.org to stabilize before attempting a Apt/Dpkg upgrade. 
Sometimes however, with GNOME lately for me, problems do not show
up untill after the upgrade.
So the unstable branch can have periods of stability, but because
its still under active development, with frequent uploads, it
should still be approached with trepidation by newcomers.  Those
of us who can live with, and handle, these kinds of problems and
will upgrade against unstable anyway, already know who we are.


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Re: Non-X11 jpeg viewer desired

1999-05-29 Thread Sean
check out the zgv program.

Sean

Dan Smith wrote:

> Hi.  Is there a package in Debian to view jpegs which
> does NOT use X11, GNOME or any other stuff like that?
> Please send replies to me directly, rather than to the
> list.  Thanx
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Re: How to find and install Gnome .debs?

1999-05-29 Thread Mitch Blevins
In foo.debian-user, you wrote:
> I have these lines  in /etc/apt/sources.list.  
> 
> > deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
> > deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable non-US
> > deb http://www.debian.org/~mblevin/gnome-apt ./ 
> > deb http://www.debian.org/~bma enlightenment/
> > deb http://snowcrash.tdyc.com/debian potato rkrusty
> > deb http://www.debian.org/~jim/debian-gtk-gnome/gnome-stage-slink unstable 
> > main

You can remove the ~mblevin line, as gnome-apt is now in the regular
potato distribution.

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Re: Download

1999-05-29 Thread Kent West
> Goran Tomic wrote:
> 
> Hi, I'm totally new to this and I would really like to install
> Debian on my comp.
> First can you help me with this ftp site.I would like to know what
> files I have to
> download and what is the size of them. I'm currently using Windows 95
> and
> Windows NT 4.0 on a separate partition (with NTFS), and I have one
> partition left.
> Can Debian work with them?
> 
> 
> Thank you for your time
> Goran Tomic
> Belgrade,Yugoslavia


Take a look at:
http://www.debian.org/releases/slink/i386/install


Download

1999-05-29 Thread Goran Tomic




    Hi, I'm totally new to this and 
I would really like to install Debian on my comp.
First can you help me with this ftp site.I would 
like to know what files I have to 
download and what is the size of them. I'm 
currently using Windows 95 and
Windows NT 4.0 on a separate partition (with NTFS), 
and I have one partition left.
Can Debian work with them?
    

        
                
                
                
                
    Thank you for your time
Goran Tomic
Belgrade,Yugoslavia


Non-X11 jpeg viewer desired

1999-05-29 Thread Dan Smith
Hi.  Is there a package in Debian to view jpegs which
does NOT use X11, GNOME or any other stuff like that? 
Please send replies to me directly, rather than to the
list.  Thanx
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How to find and install Gnome .debs?

1999-05-29 Thread Alan Eugene Davis
I had Gnome working pretty nicely (installed using apt).  I have been
using apt-get to upgrade my system regularly; one upgrade broke Gnome,
and I couldn't  figure out which.  So I have purged all Gnome
packages.  

Are step my step instructions available somewhere for getting and
installing Gnome .debs? 

I have these lines  in /etc/apt/sources.list.  

> deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
> deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable non-US
> deb http://www.debian.org/~mblevin/gnome-apt ./ 
> deb http://www.debian.org/~bma enlightenment/
> deb http://snowcrash.tdyc.com/debian potato rkrusty
> deb http://www.debian.org/~jim/debian-gtk-gnome/gnome-stage-slink unstable 
> main

I now note that the last line says "slink"; however this problem came
along long before that.  Is the slink gnome incompatible with potato?

Thanks.  

Alan Davis

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Re: did windows kill my linux?

1999-05-29 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Fri, 28 May 1999, Christensen wrote:

> When I tried fdisk -1 (after a DOS boot) it wouldn't recognize the
> parameter.  (Maybe I have a different version of fdisk?)

You need the linux fdisk.  It should be available on the rescue disk.
Just boot from the rescue disk like normal, and on the color prompt, hit
 to get a command line.  Then, "fdisk -l" from there (that's an
L, not a one).  My only thought is that you may have overlapped a
partition.

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Re: did windows kill my linux?

1999-05-29 Thread Christensen
Brandon,

When I tried fdisk -1 (after a DOS boot) it wouldn't recognize the
parameter.  (Maybe I have a different version of fdisk?)

But I did display the partition information from the fdisk menu:

1Apri dos1024Mfat1633% (windows is here)

2  non-dos   35M 1% (linux swap is
here)

3  non-dos   988M  32%(linux filesystem
is here)

4  ext dos1051M 34%

I'll probably have to re-install Linux.  I guess I'll do what Roderick
suggested and insert a small "buffer" partition between Windows and
Linux.

Peter


why is xdm ignoring the keyboard?

1999-05-29 Thread Bob Billson
I'm puzzling over an odd problem.  I can run X just fine when I log in as a
normal user and run startx.  However, if I let Debian (potato) boot so xdm
is started when the system boots, I can't log in at all.  In fact, xdm seems
totally hosed.  It won't respond to any keyboard input.  The system, itself,
still appears to be functioning.  cron still is running its jobs.  The mouse
still moves cursor around.

Can someone clue me in what I need to change to get xdm to work properly?
Thanks for the help.

bob
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Re: Communicator 4.6

1999-05-29 Thread Brad
On Fri, 28 May 1999, Robert Rati wrote:

> Has anyone successfully installed Communicator 4.6?  Dselect is insisting
> on a dependency with netscape-base4 ver >= 10, but the only version I can
> find anywhere (stable or unstable) on ftp.debian.org is version 5.  Anyone
> had any luck?

Did you check in /debian/dists/potato/contrib/binary-$(arch)/web? Current
version looks to be 14.


RE: Communicator 4.6

1999-05-29 Thread Pollywog

On 29-May-99 Robert Rati wrote:
> Has anyone successfully installed Communicator 4.6?  Dselect is insisting
> on a dependency with netscape-base4 ver >= 10, but the only version I can
> find anywhere (stable or unstable) on ftp.debian.org is version 5.  Anyone
> had any luck?

I installed it but in order to "upgrade", I had to first 'dpkg --purge' the
old version.  Then I installed version 4.6

I used the installer netscape_4.0-15.deb

--
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Re: X and nice values

1999-05-29 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, May 28, 1999 at 10:57:55PM +1200, Matthew Gregan wrote:
> I was reading somewhere recently that you should run X with a nice value
> of -10... I can't remember which document I saw this in now, I think it
> was one of the X setup HOWTOs.

ISTR it is in the XFree86 FAQ, possibly among other places.

> Well, I have a couple of questions:
> 
> 1) Is this changing of the nice value considered a good idea?

For performance reasons, yes.  I frankly don't know what all the issues
are, but I personally wouldn't renice anything to be equal to or less than
the swapper's priority (-12).  I don't pretend that this principle is
grounded in anything but the vaguest of reasoning, however.

> 2) If I use XDM/WDM, how can I set the nice value of X? I can figure out
> how I'd do it if I was starting X from the console, but I've no idea how
> to do it from WDM.

I always just fire up top from a root shell and renice it from there.

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Changing IP address

1999-05-29 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello,

I just changed my IP and as a result, I now have new IP addresses.  How
do I go about changing the IP address of my machine?  I will need to
change the DNS as well...

Also, I use SAMBA and I can't remember if I had any changes to be done
there.

If you know what is involved in this, please point me in the right
direction! :)

Thanks,

Doug


Getting Gnome themes respected when xhosting

1999-05-29 Thread Eric House
Scenario: Machine 1 running Gnome with theme 1; machine 2 running Gnome
with theme 2.  I run gtk/themes-aware application on machine 1 but
displayed on machine 2 via xhosting.

Expected result: application is rendered with theme 2 like all the other
windows on the desktop.  This is the proper model as established by X.

Actual result: application shows up with theme 1 and so looks different
from all the other apps on machine 2's display.  If I change themes on
machine 1, the application's appearance on machine 2 changes.

Is there anything I can do about this?

Is this the right place to ask?

Thanks,

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Re: Communicator 4.6

1999-05-29 Thread Sean
I downloaded the non-distribution-specific binaries from netscape's ftp site, 
and
everything has worked so far.  I'm using potato.

Sean

Robert Rati wrote:

> Has anyone successfully installed Communicator 4.6?  Dselect is insisting
> on a dependency with netscape-base4 ver >= 10, but the only version I can
> find anywhere (stable or unstable) on ftp.debian.org is version 5.  Anyone
> had any luck?
>
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