Re: Distribucion pequeña para ordenador muy antiguo.
On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 06:12:15PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Buscon una distribución que sea pequeñisima. Es para un 386-20Mhz con 60Mb de HD y 4 de Ram (Toshiba 1800). He estado buscando y he visto que existe la MiniLinux, pero por lo que me ha parecido leer (corregidme si me equivoco) va sobre FAT, y a mi me gustaría algo que fuese sobre Ext2. Uso slink en mi 386Dx 40 con 8 Mb de Ram. El sistema lo instalé cuando sólo tenía 4Mb de RAM y era usable. Según el uso que le quieras dar (el mio es poco más que una terminal para usar editores de texto, mutt y sobre todo telnet/ssh), Debian puede servirte. Si te tomas con calma la instalación (tendrás que usar el disco lowmem para instalar) y tienes claro que lo vas a usar para cosas muy simples, Debian te sirve. Eso si, ponte a instalar y desinstalar paquetes y estás apanyao. Si lo haces, asegurate de quitar todos los daemons que no hacen falta y de hacer un kernel a medida, con lo minimo para que sea usable. Usar ash en vez de bash es otra idea. Gracias. De res. Jordi -- Jordi Mallach Pérez || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Rediscovering Freedom, ka Oskuro in RL-MUD || [EMAIL PROTECTED]|| Using Debian GNU/Linux http://sindominio.net GnuPG public information: pub 1024D/917A225E telnet pusa.uv.es 23 73ED 4244 FD43 5886 20AC 2644 2584 94BA 917A 225E pgpsfrCkESjrd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Barra de botones de wmaker
¿Sabe alguien si hay alguna manera de que al pulsar uno de los botones de la barra del wmaker, me salga otra barra de botones y en horizontal? Lo pregunto porque en la barra de botones del AfterStep de la RedHat 5 o 5.x me suena haberlo visto. Y la verdad, como a 800x600 el wmaker no me da para meterle muchos botones pues me gustaría poder hacerlo. Gracias de antemano.
RE: Barra de botones de wmaker
Me parece que el clip se puede expander-contraer con alguna de sus opciones, y haciendo doble-click sobre él. Puede que con eso te apañes. Javi -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: miércoles 22 de marzo de 2000 8:29 Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Asunto: Barra de botones de wmaker ¿Sabe alguien si hay alguna manera de que al pulsar uno de los botones de la barra del wmaker, me salga otra barra de botones y en horizontal?
Re: Me temo que mi mdem es un winmdem :o(
mira a ver si tiene algún tipo de chip rockwell, si lo tiene no es winmodem. debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org con fecha 21/03/2000 18.58.56 Destinatarios: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org CC: (cci: Daniel Ferradal Marquez/INFO/URQUIJO) Asunto: Me temo que mi m Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-5 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable ódem es un winmódem :o( Muchas gracias a todos por vuestra ayuda. Por lo que he visto por ahí, creo que mi módem es sólo para Windows, así que... (aunque iré a la tienda a preguntar, por si...) Un saludo. Emilio. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
RE: Me temo que mi mfdem es un winmfdem :o(
mira a ver si tiene algún tipo de chip rockwell, si lo tiene no es winmodem. Creo que sí que lo tiene, aunque como ya está instalado ha sido un poco difícil de ver :o) De todas formas es un poco raro porque si abro algunos de los ficheros .INF que vienen con los drivers de mi módem, allí pone Rockwell SoftK56 PCI Modem. Pero si abro la parte del módem en el panel de control de la configuración de windows, pone Conexant SoftK56 Data,Fax,Speakerphone PCI Modem. Pero incluso al abrir el Readme.txt en el que se explica como instalar los drivers para windows, pone otra cosa diferente: Cobra Modem. ¿Quizá eso de Cobra sea un tipo concreto de módem dentro de los Rockwell... ? No sé, no tengo ni idea. Pero sí que he leído que si hay chip Rockwell, quizá funcione si se le deshabilita la corrección de errores. ¿Es verdad? Voy a probar ahora a ver. De todas formas es interno y en la tienda me dijeron que casi seguro que sea winmódem pq el tío cree que todos los que han vendido allí sólo son para windows. Aunque no sé si tendrá mucha idea de eso del chip Rockwell. Muchas gracias. Emilio.
SYSLOG
Hola, Estoy tratando de evitar que los mensajes de syslog aparezca en la salida estandard, es decir, consola. Existe la posibilidad de desviar la salida estandard a la salida null etc??? Un saludo y muchas gracias. Angel
Re: SYSLOG
Sips, o incluso a otra consola, veamos, simplemente hay que ir a /etc/syslog.conf y añadir la linea: *.* /dev/null Nada mas, y despues le haces un killall -HUP syslogd y estara solucionado. Yo tengo la salida del syslogd en el tty12, para cuando haga pruebas y cosas, lo tengo al alcanze rapidamente :) Saludos -- - Neil D. Roberts ; Administrador De Sistemas; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lander World Communications Server S.L. / Integra España S.A. Calle Rufino Gonzalez, Nº15 - 4ª Planta, Madrid, España 28037 Telefonos : 917.897.710 ; 902.363.363 Fax : 913.042.044 Mensatel Beeper: Nº 940.331.331 ; Codigo Del Cliente : #NR10 PGP Print: 6228 6EEE C604 431A 70A9 84B7 E327 9CAF E59A 2709 - A modest man is usually admired; if people ever hear of him.
Re: Barra de botones de wmaker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ¿Sabe alguien si hay alguna manera de que al pulsar uno de los botones de la barra del wmaker, me salga otra barra de botones y en horizontal? Lo pregunto porque en la barra de botones del AfterStep de la RedHat 5 5.x me suena haberlo visto. El afterstep permite hacer eso pero el wmaker no; el wmaker tiene muchas otras opciones para compenzar esa falta. Por ejemplo, como ya te ha dicho Javier, el clip (que normalmente aparece en la esquina superior izquierda) se puede expander/contraer por medio de un doble-click. También puedes poner el clip en cualquier lugar de la pantalla y rodearlo de botones por donde quieras. Como el clip es mucho mas flexible que el dock yo he eliminado totalmente el dock (con una opción de configuración) y uso el clip al lado derecho, como si fuera el dock. Y la verdad, como a 800x600 el wmaker no me da para meterle muchos botones Yo también uso 800x600 y tengo muchísimos botones. Los he distribuido en 5 Workspaces diferentes: en un workspace tengo todo lo relacionado con gráficas, en otro todo lo de correo/html, etc. Los botones se pueden configurar facilmente (botón derecho del ratón) para que aparezcan en un determinado workspace o en todos. saludos, Jaime
Re: SYSLOG
Neil D. Roberts wrote: Sips, o incluso a otra consola, veamos, simplemente hay que ir a /etc/syslog.conf y añadir la linea: *.* /dev/null Nada mas, y despues le haces un killall -HUP syslogd y estara solucionado. Yo tengo la salida del syslogd en el tty12, para cuando haga pruebas y cosas, lo tengo al alcanze rapidamente :) Saludos -- - Neil D. Roberts ; Administrador De Sistemas; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lander World Communications Server S.L. / Integra España S.A. Calle Rufino Gonzalez, Nº15 - 4ª Planta, Madrid, España 28037 Telefonos : 917.897.710 ; 902.363.363 Fax : 913.042.044 Mensatel Beeper: Nº 940.331.331 ; Codigo Del Cliente : #NR10 PGP Print: 6228 6EEE C604 431A 70A9 84B7 E327 9CAF E59A 2709 - A modest man is usually admired; if people ever hear of him. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Mcuhas gracias por todo, pero te digo, me interesa que ciertos mensajes del kernel referidos a mi RDSI no se vean. en la parte inicial del fichero, peudes desviarlos donde quieras. kern.*/dev/null La verdad es que me interesa saber si hay alguna forma correcta de hacer esto. Y no sesgar todos los mensajes. Muchas gracias
Re: SYSLOG
Sips, o incluso a otra consola, veamos, simplemente hay que ir a /etc/syslog.conf y añadir la linea: *.* /dev/null Nada mas, y despues le haces un killall -HUP syslogd y estara solucionado. Yo tengo la salida del syslogd en el tty12, para cuando haga pruebas y cosas, lo tengo al alcanze rapidamente ¿Y si quiero redirigirlo a la xconsole pero de otro equipo de la red? Saludos K-charro
Re: Xdm: con instalar no basta, hay que frotarrr!
El Mon, Mar 20, 2000, Enzo A. Dari... pues he instalado el paquete `xdm' 3.3.5 (sacado de la Corel Linux) y al reiniciar el equipo me da este error: Checking for valid XFree86 server configuration...error. in configuration file Not starting X display manager . Solucionado. El script de inicialización de `xdm' llama a parse-xf86config(1) y este es muy puñetero con la sintaxis de `XF86Config'. Gracias Enzo por ponerme en la pista con tus comentarios. Aunque me gustaría afinar la configuración, porque para darle acceso al terminal he modificado `/etc/xdm/Xacces' así: * #any host can get a login window que me parece la forma menos segura de hacerlo, pero es que no me aclaro con la sintaxis de ese archivo, y la única forma de conseguir acceso ha sido así. El HOWTO `Remote-X-Apps' me ha sido de ayuda pero no me he aclarado del todo. ¿Al usar `xdm' éste ya se encarga de todo y no hace falta el paso de `xauth'? El xdm se fija en su configuración (en el archivo: /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers) y si encuentra una línea que diga algo parecido a: :0 local /usr/bin/X11/X vt7 intenta arrancar el server local (previa verificación de que tenga una configuración válida de Xfree86 en el archivo: /etc/X11/XF86Config). Sí, eso está bien. En tu caso puede que no necesites el xserver en el servidor, ya que pretendes usar el x-server de la otra máquina. En tal caso puedes borrar esa línea del /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers. No me expliqué bien. Yo lanzo el server en el ordenador principal, y quiero que el secundario pueda acceder a las X también, sin necesidad de correr el sistema en su máquina (486 + 16Mb). De momento tengo en el terminal la posibilidad de trabajar con WMaker+Comunicator+rxvt... con 16Mb de RAM y no tira de la swap (local) El principal tiene 128 Mb. Ahora, por ejemplo, tengo: Server: - WMaker+Comunicator+3 rxvt+Emacs Terminal: - WMaker+Comunicator. Server/$ free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:128248 124504 3744 56164 11640 62508 -/+ buffers/cache: 50356 77892 Swap: 102496 4496 98000 Terminal/$ free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 14772 13776996 5288 1128 7736 -/+ buffers/cache: 4912 9860 Swap:32512868 31644 Digo yo que no está mal, :-) Pues eso, que si alguien usa Xdm y puede hacer algunos comentarios. Saludos. -- ~~~ Cosme P. Cuevas.oOo.GnuPG KeyID: 0A4305FB http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Lounge/8698/ -=-=- A través de Debian GNU/Linux -=-=- -=-=- Software Libre -=-=- ~~~
Re: Distribucion pequeña para ordenador muy antiguo.
El Tue, Mar 21, 2000, Conrado Badenas... Aunque, me parece que como no lo instale a través de un cable serie-serie, lo veo muy dificil, porque ese portatil solo tiene disquetera es capaz de leer disquetes a 1.44 Mb entonces deberás generar diez disquetes... Una vez que tengas instalado y configurado el sistema base, puedes continuar la instalación del resto de paquetes que quieres que formen tu sistema operativo por Internet... Quizás se pueda ahorrar el sistema Base. Yo hace 2 días que he instalado Debian en un 486 via red ethernet. Y a lo mejor via cable serie aceptaría un proceso equivalente. Lo que hice fue arrancar con el rescue de Hamm (el que tenía a mano, ya había puesto la disquetera del ordenador principal en el 486...), particionar/iniciar/configurar, y entonces cargar los drivers con su disquete correspondiente y configurar los módulos necesarios, en mi caso para poder utilizar la red ethernet, en el tuyo los que toquen, habrá que trastear un poco, O:-) Cuando te lo pida, configuras la red como si tuvieras. conexión permanente. Mira más abajo para saber las IPs que colocar. Unos documentos: http://www.ctv.es/USERS/sromero/linux/redserie.html Y Algún HOWTO: http://lucas.hispalinux.es/COMO-INSFLUG/COMOs/Redes-En-Linux-Como/Redes-En-Linux-Como.html Yo creo que para `dselect' _necesitas_ trabajar como red, pero para configurarlo como terminal serie tienes más información: http://www.ctv.es/USERS/sromero/linux/terminal.html http://lucas.hispalinux.es/COMO-INSFLUG/COMOs/Serie-Como/Serie-Como.html http://lucas.hispalinux.es/COMO-INSFLUG/COMOs/Terminales-Como/Terminales-Como.html http://lucas.hispalinux.es/COMO-INSFLUG/COMOs/SLIP-Como/SLIP-Como.html http://lucas.hispalinux.es/COMO-INSFLUG/COMOs/Linux-Sin-Disco-Duro-Como/Linux-Sin-Disco-Duro-Como.html El caso es que el resto de la instalación me ha entrado por la tarjeta de 10Mbits/s, y no por el disquete, :-) No hay que olvidar configurar los daemons correspondientes en el ordenador principal. Configuras la red del ordenador principal. Necesitarás seguramente recompilar el kernel. Además: $ cat /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost 192.168.5.1 shevek.anarres.net shevek 192.168.5.2 takver.anarres.net takver $ cat /etc/networks localnet 192.168.5.0 $ cat /etc/hostname shevek $ cat /etc/init.d/network #! /bin/sh ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 #route add -net 127.0.0.0 -- NO en núcleos 2.2.x IPADDR=192.168.5.1 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 NETWORK=192.168.5.0 BROADCAST=192.168.5.255 GATEWAY=-- fíjate en esto para cuando la instalación del 386 te pregunte. ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST} #route add -net ${NETWORK} [ ${GATEWAY} ] route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1 Descomenta los `route' para kernels 2.0.x. Ten presente las configuraciones del MTA y el servidor de news, entre otros, si has cambiado nombres. Necesitas el paquete `nfs-server' para que el 386 pueda montar el CD con la distribución. Y se ponen estas líneas en `/etc/inetd.conf' nfs/2 dgram rpc/udp wait root /usr/sbin/rpc.nfsd rpc.nfsd nfs/2 stream rpc/tcp wait root /usr/sbin/rpc.nfsd rpc.nfsd $ cat /etc/exports # /etc/exports: the access control list for filesystems which may be exported # to NFS clients. See exports(5). /cdtabulador(ro,insecure,all_squash,no_root_squash) /var/spool/backup/updates (ro,insecure,all_squash,no_root_squash) /tmp(ro,insecure,all_squash,no_root_squash) /etc(ro,insecure,all_squash,no_root_squash) /a (ro,insecure,all_squash,no_root_squash) Necesitas, lógicamente, `telnetd/telnet' (o ssh) para `servidor/terminal'. Tampocoes malaidea instalar `telnetd/ssh' en el 386 por si algún día se cuelga y pierdes la posibilidad de matar el proceso malicioso. En `/etc/inetd.conf' yo tengo esto: telnet stream tcp nowait root/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.telnetd Y habrá que darle acceso a `root' a conectarse desde terminal: $ cat /etc/securrety # /etc/securetty: list of terminals on which root is allowed to login. # See securetty(5) and login(1). tty1 tty2 tty3 tty4 tty5 tty6 ttyp0 ttyp1 ttyp2 ttyp3 ttyp4 ttyp5 ttyp6 ttyp7 ttyp8 ttyp8 ttyp10 Volviendo a la instalación, después de reiniciar el sistema y entrar en `dselect', se selecciona el método de acceso: `nfs' Te pide la IP del servidor (la conoces) y el pathname, que no será otro que el directorio donde montes (previamente) el CDROM. Después el directorio que contiene el Packages, esto ya como en el caso habitual... Una vez acabé la instalación, actualice via `nfs' y `apt' a Slink, :-) # mount -t nfs shevek:/cd /cdrom En el /etc/apt/sources.list deb file:/cdrom stable main contrib non-free non-US # apt-get updates # apt-get dist-upgrade Y a partir de este momento, ya está, ¿no? Las actualizaciones via Internet/cdrom para el principal y para el 386 via
Re: SYSLOG
Neil D. Roberts wrote: La conexion por RDSI la haces con un pppd ?Si fuese asi, normalmente se pondria pppd.* /dev/null No se si esto contesta tu peticion, pero intentare ayudarte :) Angel Carrasco wrote: Neil D. Roberts wrote: Sips, o incluso a otra consola, veamos, simplemente hay que ir a /etc/syslog.conf y añadir la linea: *.* /dev/null Nada mas, y despues le haces un killall -HUP syslogd y estara solucionado. Yo tengo la salida del syslogd en el tty12, para cuando haga pruebas y cosas, lo tengo al alcanze rapidamente :) Saludos -- - Neil D. Roberts ; Administrador De Sistemas; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lander World Communications Server S.L. / Integra España S.A. Calle Rufino Gonzalez, Nº15 - 4ª Planta, Madrid, España 28037 Telefonos : 917.897.710 ; 902.363.363 Fax : 913.042.044 Mensatel Beeper: Nº 940.331.331 ; Codigo Del Cliente : #NR10 PGP Print: 6228 6EEE C604 431A 70A9 84B7 E327 9CAF E59A 2709 - A modest man is usually admired; if people ever hear of him. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Mcuhas gracias por todo, pero te digo, me interesa que ciertos mensajes del kernel referidos a mi RDSI no se vean. en la parte inicial del fichero, peudes desviarlos donde quieras. kern.*/dev/null La verdad es que me interesa saber si hay alguna forma correcta de hacer esto. Y no sesgar todos los mensajes. Muchas gracias -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- - Neil D. Roberts ; Administrador De Sistemas; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lander World Communications Server S.L. / Integra España S.A. Calle Rufino Gonzalez, Nº15 - 4ª Planta, Madrid, España 28037 Telefonos : 917.897.710 ; 902.363.363 Fax : 913.042.044 Mensatel Beeper: Nº 940.331.331 ; Codigo Del Cliente : #NR10 PGP Print: 6228 6EEE C604 431A 70A9 84B7 E327 9CAF E59A 2709 - Al Gore is proof that Tennessee has a sense of humor. This signature was made by SigChanger. You can find SigChanger at: http://huizen.dds.nl/~phranc/ El tema es el siguiente con ciertos nodos de españa entre ellos el de madrid, la conexión a dos canales B, ya sabes que el kernel te infla a warningsss. Esta telefonica Entonces, sale una tal kernel: isdn_ppp_device nosecua, MP, y si saliera una vez por mi como si le metian fuego, pero me saldra, y no te exagero 5 cada minuto y no tengo logs sino enciclopedias completas. En /etc/syslog.conf He hecho: kernel:*isdn_pp* De cara a que me salga todo lo demás y sólo censure esto. Se me ha olvidado decir que esto te sale en cualquier consola mientras trabajas y lo peor de todo es que no puedes anularlo todo, porque estoy buscando fallos ahora mismo en él. Muchas gracias por todo amigo. Angel
Re: Xdm: con instalar no basta, hay que frotarrr!
Cosme P. Cuevas wrote: ... (Consulta sobre seguridad) ... Afortunadamente vivo tras un firewall bastante seguro (más que nada por lo lento que resulta acceder), así que nunca me preocupé por los temas de seguridad. ... ... Yo lanzo el server en el ordenador principal, y quiero que el secundario pueda acceder a las X también, sin necesidad de correr el sistema en su máquina (486 + 16Mb). De momento tengo en el terminal la posibilidad de trabajar con WMaker+Comunicator+rxvt... con 16Mb de RAM y no tira de la swap (local) El principal tiene 128 Mb. Ahora, por ejemplo, tengo: Server: - WMaker+Comunicator+3 rxvt+Emacs Terminal: - WMaker+Comunicator. ... Veamos, el X-server es el programa que se encarga de hacer de interfase entre comandos gráficos que son independientes del hardware y tus dispositivos físicos (tarjeta gráfica, teclado, mouse). Si quieres que en una pantalla se vean dibujitos *necesitas* un X-server corriendo en la cpu donde esa pantalla está conectada. El resto de los programas bajo X-windows son clientes X-windows, para dibujar algo en pantalla se lo piden al servidor, que es quien sabe como hacerlo. Esta petición puede viajar a través de una red, de manera que puedes ejecutar el programa cliente en una máquina y verlo en otra. Entre estos programas clientes está, en particular el window manager. De manera que no necesitas ejecutar en tu terminal ni el WMaker ni el comunicator, ambos podrían ejecutarse en tu ordenador principal y mostrarse en la pantalla de tu terminal (y manejarse desde el teclado y mouse de tu terminal). En resumen, lo único que necesitas en tu terminal es el X-server. De hecho, hay algunos x-servers que corren sobre otros sistemas operativos, y te permiten acceder a tu máquina a través de xdm, como si fueran una terminal. -- Saludos, O__ Enzo.,/ ()=\() Enzo A. Dari | Instituto Balseiro / Centro Atomico Bariloche 8400-San Carlos de Bariloche, Argentina | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 54-2944-445208, 54-2944-445100 Fax: 54-2944-445299 Web page: http://cabmec1.cnea.gov.ar/darie/darie.htm
Re: Distribucion pequeña para ordenador muy antiguo.
Una preguntita. ?Sabeis de algun programa tipo Rebirth (principalmente los modulos de cajas de ritmo) que vaya en un 486? A ser posible me gustaria que pudiera ser completamente programable (del tipo 4 compases de este ritmo, uno de aquel y 2 del otro) y con posibilidad de elegir los sonidos. Ya puestos, para pedir aun mas si es libre (y gratuito) mejor que mejor :P Gracias anticipadas Gabriel
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como eliminar paquete que se resiste
Hola, Estoy tratando de instalar el kde2 para probar. Tenia instalado el kde 1.1 y lo he quitado antes. Bueno, o eso intento porque no soy capaz de quitar el paquete kdebase. Me sale este error: # dpkg --purge kdebase (Reading database ... 51312 files and directories currently installed.) Removing kdebase ... dpkg: error processing kdebase (--purge): subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: kdebase ¿Que opcion puedo usar para forzar que se quite este paquete? Gracias anticipadas -- Eduardo Fernández Corrales [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sistelnet Integraciones Telemáticas - http://www.sistelnet.es NUEVOS TELEFONOS: 95-4186897 95-4186898 902-293030 Fax: 954186901
RE: Me temo que mi mfdem es un winmfdem :o(
At 11:05 AM 2000-03-22 +0100, Emilio Hernández Martín wrote: mira a ver si tiene algún tipo de chip rockwell, si lo tiene no es winmodem. Creo que sí que lo tiene, aunque como ya está instalado ha sido un poco difícil de ver :o) De todas formas es un poco raro porque si abro algunos de los ficheros .INF que vienen con los drivers de mi módem, allí pone Rockwell SoftK56 PCI Modem. Pero si abro la parte del módem en el panel de control de la configuración de windows, pone Conexant SoftK56 Data,Fax,Speakerphone PCI ^^^ ^^^ Soft y PCI. Esas dos palabras en la descripción de un módem hacen suponer (con un 99.87% de efectividad) que es un WinModem.
Puede alguien pasarme su fichero /etc/issue?
Que tal? Que caracter de control hay que poner al inicio de /etc/issue para que la pantalla se borre (como con clear) cada vez que se inicia una nueva sesion en consola? Ya he probado ctrl+l. No funciona. De donde saca la informacion el codigo de escape \o que colocado en /etc/issue equivale a escribir el dominio de la maquina en el texto. En mi maquina no encuentra la informacion y pone: (none). Quiza alguien me pueda pasar su fichero /etc/issue e intentare resolver yo mis propias dudas. Gracias. -- Santiago Fernandez Departamento de Fisica Aplicada, Facultad de Fisica, Universidad de Santiago de Compostela.
Re: Puede alguien pasarme su fichero /etc/issue?
es un archivo con codigos ansi, asi que si no me acuerdo mal es ESC[2J - Original Message - From: Santi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 6:10 PM Subject: Puede alguien pasarme su fichero /etc/issue? Que tal? Que caracter de control hay que poner al inicio de /etc/issue para que la pantalla se borre (como con clear) cada vez que se inicia una nueva sesion en consola? Ya he probado ctrl+l. No funciona. De donde saca la informacion el codigo de escape \o que colocado en /etc/issue equivale a escribir el dominio de la maquina en el texto. En mi maquina no encuentra la informacion y pone: (none). Quiza alguien me pueda pasar su fichero /etc/issue e intentare resolver yo mis propias dudas. Gracias. -- Santiago Fernandez Departamento de Fisica Aplicada, Facultad de Fisica, Universidad de Santiago de Compostela. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: ¿Qué está pasando?
Mejor 'fuser /floppy' y buscar al responsable :) Javi On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 05:42:27PM +, Jaime E. Villate wrote: Diego Bote wrote: ¿Puede algien explicarme qué está pasando? mount: /dev/fd0 already mounted or /floppy busy Parece que algún proceso o algún usuario están usando el directorio /floppy y por eso no lo puedes usar para montar /dev/fd0 Revisa con ps aux y w a ver si descubres quien es el culpable. Jaime -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: como eliminar paquete que se resiste
Al parecer el programa de desinstalación no está bien hecho, te recomiendo que mires /var/lib/dpkg/info/kdebase.postrm para ver qué está pasando e incluso la ejecutes tú 'a mano'. Si cambias la primera línea que será: #!/bin/sh por: #!/bin/sh -x podrás (al ejecutarlo) ver en la salida qué es lo que hace y por qué aborta. Parece que esos paquetes de kde 1.1 no estaban muy bien hechos... Javi On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 02:33:45PM +, Eduardo Fernandez Corrales wrote: Hola, Estoy tratando de instalar el kde2 para probar. Tenia instalado el kde 1.1 y lo he quitado antes. Bueno, o eso intento porque no soy capaz de quitar el paquete kdebase. Me sale este error: # dpkg --purge kdebase (Reading database ... 51312 files and directories currently installed.) Removing kdebase ... dpkg: error processing kdebase (--purge): subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: kdebase ¿Que opcion puedo usar para forzar que se quite este paquete? Gracias anticipadas -- Eduardo Fernández Corrales [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sistelnet Integraciones Telemáticas - http://www.sistelnet.es NUEVOS TELEFONOS: 95-4186897 95-4186898 902-293030 Fax: 954186901 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Puede alguien pasarme su fichero /etc/issue?
Buena memoria. Con ESC[2J la pantalla se limpia, pero el texto comienza a escribirse abajo de todo :-( Sabes donde puedo echarle un vistazo a los codigos ansi? From: Pookie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Puede alguien pasarme su fichero /etc/issue? es un archivo con codigos ansi, asi que si no me acuerdo mal es ESC[2J - Original Message - From: Santi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Subject: Puede alguien pasarme su fichero /etc/issue? Que tal? Que caracter de control hay que poner al inicio de /etc/issue para que la pantalla se borre (como con clear) cada vez que se inicia una nueva sesion en consola? Ya he probado ctrl+l. No funciona. De donde saca la informacion el codigo de escape \o que colocado en /etc/issue equivale a escribir el dominio de la maquina en el texto. En mi maquina no encuentra la informacion y pone: (none). Quiza alguien me pueda pasar su fichero /etc/issue e intentare resolver yo mis propias dudas. Gracias. -- Santi
Re: Puede alguien pasarme su fichero /etc/issue?
En esta dirección puedes tener los códigos ANSI. http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Alley/8802/manual-ansilist.htm Te adelanto que si lo que quieres es mover el cursor, he aquí la receta: ESC[#;#H or ESC[#;#f Moves cusor to line #, column # Atentamente Genaro Díaz Caracas Venezuela
Re: CARGAR MODULOS
Creo que no tienes ningún problema con el módulo de la tarjeta de sonido: los mensajes que te da se refieren a los módulos de sistemas de ficheros, a la red, a driver para controladora SCSI, el disquete (¡ojo!, aunque seguramente lo hayas incluido directamente en el núcleo), al soporte para ipv6 y algunas cosas más. Al compilar el núcleo seguramente has incluido directamente el soporte para algunos dispositivos (floppy, puerto de impresora y puertos serie) y hayas eliminado lo que no necesites (soporte PCMCIA por ejemplo). Identifica estos módulos que ya no usas (la lista que has enviado te es suficiente) y bórralos de /etc/modules. Consejo de amigo: hazle una copia antes a este fichero (cp /etc/modules /etc/modules.ori). Por cierto, antes de estos mensajes de error ¿no te muestra otros el dselect? isaaclinux wrote: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.7/fs/isofs.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.7/fs/isofs.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.7/fs/nfs.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.7/fs/nfsd.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.7/net/cops.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.7/net/ltpc.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.7/scsi/aic7xxx.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.7/scsi/sd_mod.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.7/block/floppy.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.7/ipv6/ipv6.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.7/video/vfb.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.7/misc/ipx.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.7/misc/isdn_bsdcomp.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.7/misc/lp.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.7/misc/maui.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.7/misc/serial.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.7/misc/sunrpc.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.7/pcmcia/ibmtr_cs.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.7/pcmcia/iscc_cs.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.7/pcmcia/mpsuni_cs.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.7/pcmcia/serial_cb.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.7/pcmcia/serial_cs.o -- -- Jaime Fernandez Martinez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --
Re: Puede alguien pasarme su fichero /etc/issue?
On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Santi wrote: Yo en mi issue tengo lo siguiente para borra la pantalla ^[[H^[[J Lo referente al nombre del dominio lo deve coger del hostname del /etc Que tal? Que caracter de control hay que poner al inicio de /etc/issue para que la pantalla se borre (como con clear) cada vez que se inicia una nueva sesion en consola? Ya he probado ctrl+l. No funciona. De donde saca la informacion el codigo de escape \o que colocado en /etc/issue equivale a escribir el dominio de la maquina en el texto. En mi maquina no encuentra la informacion y pone: (none). Quiza alguien me pueda pasar su fichero /etc/issue e intentare resolver yo mis propias dudas. Gracias. -- Santiago Fernandez Departamento de Fisica Aplicada, Facultad de Fisica, Universidad de Santiago de Compostela. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null *** David Gironella Casademont Estudiant Informatica de Sistemes - Universitat de Girona Administrador d'Hades [EMAIL PROTECTED] Secretari Associació d'Estudiants d'Informàtica de Girona AEIGI AEIGi Web - http://www.aeigi.org Membre Claustral EPS Membre de Junta d'escola Giro Web - http://hades.udg.es/~giro ***
Re: Comunicacion con adaptador RDSI
Ximo Nadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hola: Tengo un adaptador externo RDSI y quiero poder enviarle par=E1metros de configuraci=F3n y ver los mensajes de estado sin establecer una conexi=F3n PPP =BFcon que programita creeis que me resultaria mas f=E1cil hacerlo de los que vienen con Debian (sin usar las X)?. Si alguien tiene funcionando un adaptador RDSI ZyXEL Omni TA128 y est=E1 contento con su configuraci=F3n le estaria infinitamente agradecido si pudiese ayudarme a configurar el mio (no se si es que va por libre o no me entero pero no puedo con =E9l en Debian sin embargo con M$-Windows va perfecto, aunque me pese). Si no recuerdo mal los adaptadores externos no funcionaban con Linux, aunque no me hagas mucho caso... -- Saludos. Antonio. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Puede alguien pasarme su fichero /etc/issue?
El Wed, Mar 22, 2000 a las 06:34:39PM +0100, Santi dijo: Buena memoria. Con ESC[2J la pantalla se limpia, pero el texto comienza a escribirse abajo de todo :-( Sabes donde puedo echarle un vistazo a los codigos ansi? Espero que no se molesten por la longitud de este correo. Tambien espero que sea de utilidad... ~~ ANSI ESCAPE SEQUENCES === Wherever you see '#', that should be replaced by the appropriate number. ESC code sequence Function --- --- Cursor Controls: ESC[#;#H or ESC[#;#f Moves cusor to line #, column # ESC[#A Moves cursor up # lines ESC[#B Moves cursor down # lines ESC[#C Moves cursor forward # spaces ESC[#D Moves cursor back # spaces ESC[#;#R Reports current cursor line column ESC[s Saves cursor position for recall later ESC[u Return to saved cursor position Erase Functions: ESC[2J Clear screen and home cursor ESC[K Clear to end of line Set Graphics Rendition: ESC[#;#;;#mSet display attributes where # is 0 for normal display 1 for bold on 4 underline (mono only) 5 blink on 7 reverse video on 8 nondisplayed (invisible) 30 black foreground 31 red foreground 32 green foreground 33 yellow foreground 34 blue foreground 35 magenta foreground 36 cyan foreground 37 white foreground 40 black background 41 red background 42 green background 43 yellow background 44 blue background 45 magenta background 46 cyan background 47 white background ESC[=#;7h or Put screen in indicated mode where # is ESC[=h or 0 for 40 x 25 black white ESC[=0h or 1 for 40 x 25 color ESC[?7h2 for 80 x 25 bw 3 for 80 x 25 color 4 for 320 x 200 color graphics 5 for 320 x 200 b w graphics 6 for 640 x 200 b w graphics 7 to wrap at end of line ESC[=#;7l or ESC[=l or Resets mode # set with above command ESC[=0l or ESC[?7l Keyboard Reassignments: ESC[#;#;...p Keyboard reassignment. The first ASCII or ESC[stringp code defines which code is to be or ESC[#;string;#; changed. The remaining codes define #;string;#p what it is to be changed to. E.g. Reassign the Q and q keys to the A and a keys (and vice versa). ESC [65;81pA becomes Q ESC [97;113p a becomes q ESC [81;65pQ becomes A ESC [113;97p q becomes a E.g. Reassign the F10 key to a DIR command. ESC [0;68;dir;13pThe 0;68 is the extended ASCII code for the F10 key and 13 is the ASCII code for a carriage return. Other function key codes F1=59,F2=60,F3=61,F4=62,F5=63 F6=64,F7=65,F8=66,F9=67,F10=68 ~~ From: Pookie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Puede alguien pasarme su fichero /etc/issue? es un archivo con codigos ansi, asi que si no me acuerdo mal es
Linux Alianza Ofrece Sitios Gratuitos a los Grupos de Usuarios Linux en Latinoamérica
Marzo 22, 2000 - Linux Alianza anunció hoy un servicio de proveer sitios gratuitos para los Grupos de Usuarios de Linux en toda Latinoamérica. Linux Alianza registró 18 nombres de dominio Linux para el uso de Grupos de Usuarios de habla española: LinuxMexico.org LinuxGuatemala.org LinuxHonduras.org LinuxElSalvador.org LinuxNicaragua.org LinuxCostaRica.org LinuxPanama.org LinuxColombia.org LinuxVenezuela.org LinuxEcuador.org LinuxUruguay.org LinuxChile.org LinuxArgentina.org LinuxBolivia.org LinuxParaguay.org LinuxCuba.org LinuxRepublicaDominicana.org LinuxPuertoRico.org Como LinuxBrasil.org y LinuxPeru.org ya son mantenidos por Grupos de Usuarios en sus respectivos países, esto unifica el espacio de nombres de dominio para Grupos de Usuarios de Linux en toda Latinoamérica. Estos nuevos sitios también estarán disponibles a través del multi-sitio de Linux Alianza, A HREF=http://LinuxUsuarios.com;LinuxUsuarios.com/A. Todos los Grupos de Usuarios de Linux en estos países están invitados a aprovechar de los recursos gratuitos que ofrecen estos sitios. Los GULs existentes también pueden registrarse en http://LinuxUsuarios.com para que sea mucho más sencillo localizarlos. La ruta más rápida hacia el Dominio Mundial de Linux es a través del apoyo comercial de las actividades de la comunidad, explica Mike Anderson, Gerente General y CTO de Linux Alianza, muchos Grupos de Usuarios de Linux en Latinoamérica carecen de recursos o del acceso para poder crear su propio sitio web. Además, los nombre de los dominios de sus sitios son generalmente no muy claros o no relacionados con Linux - esta agrupación de dominios hará muy fácil el ser encontrado. Acerca de Linux Alianza: Linux Alianza es una alianza de sitios de Linux, completamente en Español (los sitios en Portugués Brasileño estarán en línea el 15 de Abril) los cuales promueven Linux en Latinoamérica a través de su concepto Comunidad y Comercio. El multi-sitio, ingresado a A HREF=http://LinuxFiesta.com;LinuxFiesta.com/A, incluye centros comerciales para negocios Linux además de toda la información, recursos y áreas de servicio normalmente encontradas en los sitios de Linux. Linux Alianza lanzó su multi-sitio el 17 de Febrero. Negocios Linux interesados en alcanzar el vasto mercado Latinoamericano deben visitar el sitio http://LinuxFlash.com (Inglés), http://LinuxAlianza.com (Español) y comunicarse con Mike Anderson a [EMAIL PROTECTED] para promociones, inversiones y oportunidades de comercio en Linux Alianza. Para mayor información comuníquese con: Mike Anderson Linux Alianza http://LinuxFlash.com (English) http://LinuxAlianza.com (Español) http://LinuxAlianca.com (Português) http://LinuxFiesta.com (Usuario) [EMAIL PROTECTED] +52 4 732-5789
Actualizar procesador
Saludos a todos . Tengo un Pentium 200-MMX y estoy pensando en actualizarlo. En http://www.tccomputers.com he localizado un procesador AMD K6-2 533 MHz . 533MHz processor. 64K L1, L2 Cache on motherboard. Requires Socket 7 motherboard with compliant BIOS and capable of 97MHz FSB. Product Code: AMDK62533K por 78 $ . La cuestiòn es que no hace referencia a Linux. Serìa posible hacer la actualizaciòn sin problemas. La placa base es una i430TX con BIOS Award v4.51PG ¿Puede alguien aconsejarme algo ? ¿ Por cierto que son los 97 MHz FSB ? Gracias anticipadas . Cèsar.
Re: Sobre el pasado Expo-Linux
Hell-o Andres Herrera! El día Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 02:51:17PM CET Yo pienso que tienes toda la razon, pero no se si el mundo Linux por si mismo tiene recursos para organizar algo parecido sin contar con esas esponsorizaciones. pues montemos cosas más pequeñas pero más centradas en Linux. No le veo ninguna ventaja a las macroreuniones y de hecho la comparación ExpoLinux - Hispalinux lo demuestra Tanto pasar por el aro como no hacerlo son posturas que tienen sus ventajas e inconvenientes, pero aun no tengo claro que sera peor. yo no le veo ninguna ventaja a pasar por el aro -- Nos leemos... .--. -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- |o_o | SKaVeN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] |:_/ | Linux Pauered (Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 Slink) // \ \ Linux Registered User #158497 (http://counter.li.org) (| | ) -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-/'\_ _/`\ \___)=3D(___/
NAT ESTATICO
Hola, En el kernel 2.0.29, y tengo ipfwadm, no puedo apagar ni reiniciar la máquina porque está permanentemente conectada. Os pregunta, se puede hacer nat statico? un saludo. Angel
Quickstart para amd?
He instalado el amd en slink, haver si ya no voy a tener que estar montando y desmontando. El caso es que me gustaria saber si alguien tiene o sabe donde hay algun texto tipo quickstart para amd, ya que el uso que le voy a dar va a ser muy simple. Gracias desde ya --- No se aprecia la importancia de una copia de seguridad hasta que es necesaria. __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Re: SYSLOG
El 22-Mar-00 Neil D. Roberts dijo: Sips, o incluso a otra consola, veamos, simplemente hay que ir a /etc/syslog.conf y añadir la linea: *.* /dev/null Nada mas, y despues le haces un killall -HUP syslogd y estara solucionado. Yo tengo la salida del syslogd en el tty12, para cuando haga pruebas y cosas, lo tengo al alcanze rapidamente :) Una pregunta. Quizas es una tonteria, pero si hago eso de enviar la salida a la consola 12...impide que se sigan guardando los logs en el disco? o ejecuta las dos tareas: diferentes logs al disco, y ademas, todo por la consola 12? Saludos __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Re: Last chance: unresolved symbols and depmod weirdness
On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 10:36:35PM -0500, Jonathan Markevich wrote: Please tell me I'm a moron and I'm clearly not running *command x*. Please tell me something... It's getting so blowing the thing away and reinstalling takes less time and frustration. The depmod weirdness is a bug in the initscripts. If the hardware (BIOS) clock is set to local time (e.g. if you dual-boot a well-known OS) then files created before /etc/rcS/S55hwclock.sh runs have an incorrect timestamp. I had good luck renaming the symlink to S20hwclock.sh but YMMV. If you're not dual-booting you may want to look at the manpage for hwclock and /etc/default/rcS. John
Re: Is it possible for finger to not show .forward?
On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 06:07:28PM -, Pollywog wrote: On 21-Mar-2000 George Bonser wrote: On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, David Karlin wrote: Obviously, finger could be disabled, but I'd like to keep it running on the internal network. Is there a way to get finger to not show .forward? Try using a different finger daemon. There are a lot of them and they allow different configuration options. I removed my finger daemon, but if I finger a user as root, I can read their .forward file. I don't understand how that happens with no daemon. /usr/bin/finger does not use finger daemon on the localhost. and root can read all files so root will always be able to see your .forward. try finger as another user though and you won't see it. as for fingerd i see no reason it should be run as anything other then nobody, if at all. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/
Re: Star Office
Well, I did not really experience exactly the same thing, but I have well tested that StarCalc has some bugs when managing memory. The more time you work with it, the more it grows in memory. A lot to do with the UNDO routines, I'm afraid. So... you can *try reducing* the number of steps you want to be able to undo to one or two, if possible. (For me, 5 was working reasonably well, 8 is far too much). Anyway, it all depends on your sheet. Just a question: Does it last the same time the first time it recalculates than the nth time? (For me, it was getting worse the more I worked. Closing StarOffice and reopening 'solved' it, but closing the document was not enough.) You can observe this behaviour by launching top and observing the sizes. I tried to send a message to Sun, but I did not manage to find the right address to do so. Also, StarImpress has another bug, concerning animation of texts: If you try to move more than one text object on the same slide, it hangs when showing the slide in presentation mode, even though preview was fine. Good little remarkable point for StarImpress: It supports animated GIFs, which are not supported by... you know who. Antonio Fiol I was wondering if anyone out there has had the same problem I have with StarCalc. In my work I routinely do data analysis on hundreds of thousands of data points. Normally, I use Excel on Win98 to do this but recently I grew frustrated with Windows with all its bugs and crashes and reboots on a daily basis. I decided to try using Linux based on it's reputation for stability and installed Corel and then subsequently Debian as a separate partition in the same box. When I try to run one of the standard data analysis routines I use with Excel/Win98 it takes literally seconds to draw a graph. If I try to do the same thing with StarCalc the cpu grinds away for minutes at nearly 100% usage and eventually the job crashes the system altogether. Does this sound familiar to anyone? The box is a 400MHz Pentium II, 64MB RAM, 1GB Linux partition Brendan
Re: Group for /dev/cdrom, Does not work for me :-(, addendum
On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 12:08:03PM -0800, esoR ocsirF wrote: On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 10:59:17AM -0800, esoR ocsirF wrote: Hmmm I always just made my cdrom ( hdc ) world readable. this seemed should refer to the group idea :-] like a nice way to handle it but it didnt work for me. janet:/dev# ll cdrom lrwxrwxrwx1 root cdrom 8 Dec 13 04:54 cdrom - /dev/hdc janet:/dev# ll hdc brw-rw1 root cdrom 22, 0 Mar 3 1999 hdc janet:/etc# less group snip cdros:x:24:rosef ^ typo, is actually m :-/ snip janet:/etc# less group- snip cdros:x:24:rosef ^ Ahhh the foibles of copy and paste :-) in that case it should work, does id or groups show that you are a member of the cdrom group? is your cdrom REALLY /dev/hdc? (secondary master) -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/
Re: Group for /dev/cdrom, Does not work for me :-(
On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 10:59:17AM -0800, esoR ocsirF wrote: Hmmm I always just made my cdrom ( hdc ) world readable. this seemed like a nice way to handle it but it didnt work for me. janet:/dev# ll cdrom lrwxrwxrwx1 root cdrom 8 Dec 13 04:54 cdrom - /dev/hdc janet:/dev# ll hdc brw-rw1 root cdrom 22, 0 Mar 3 1999 hdc ^ janet:/etc# less group snip cdros:x:24:rosef ^ snip janet:/etc# less group- snip cdros:x:24:rosef snip Does anyone know whats wrong with my setup? It seems fine to me but IANAG (I am not a guru ;-) your group is wrong, cdros != cdrom -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/
Re: Status of RIVA TNT2 3D Support in XFree86 4.0...?
There's actually something about this on slashdot.org today: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/03/21/0955231mode=thread * Steve ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [000321 15:22] penned: Hello All, I have not been able to find a definate answer as to the existence of 3D Support in XFree86 4.0 for an NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 Card. Some stuff that I have read seems to indicate that there is not a 3D driver yet...? Is this true? Is there 3d support in X4, and if so, is it usable at all for things like Q3? Thanks, Steve -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- -Grant oio` They do not apprehend how being at variance it agrees with itself. --Heraclitus ioi`
RE: Status of RIVA TNT2 3D Support in XFree86 4.0...?
There is 3d support, using GLX. It doesnt use DRI (to wite directly to the hardware, which means it's not as fast as it could be. See slashdot (today's edition, infact) for an excelent discussion on the topic. Bryan On 21-Mar-2000 Steve wrote: Hello All, I have not been able to find a definate answer as to the existence of 3D Support in XFree86 4.0 for an NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 Card. Some stuff that I have read seems to indicate that there is not a 3D driver yet...? Is this true? Is there 3d support in X4, and if so, is it usable at all for things like Q3? Thanks, Steve -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: exim and spam relay
It took some time, but I finally found an answer to the question I posted. If anyone else is having the same problem, the solution is to set receiver_verify = true in /etc/exim.conf. Exim will then return a 550 status to the RCPT TO command in the following example. John Kuhn wrote: telnet badhost.corp.com 25 Trying... Connected to badhost.corp.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 badhost.corp.com ESMTP Exim 3.12 #1 Thu, 09 Mar 2000 14:45:18 -0500 MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] is syntactically correct RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[192.1.1.1] 250 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[192.1.1.1] is syntactically correct
Re: Bug#60891: xdm: Installs default tty7 line in Xservers -- breaks system
On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 04:11:44PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Package: xdm Version: N/A Severity: critical I don't appreciate critical bug reports that reveal such profound ignorance of the Debian system in general, and of the xdm package specifically. When installed with apt-get xdm postinst inserts a default line in /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers of ':0 local /usr/bin/X11/X vt7' if instructed to handle a local session. It does no such thing. You obviously didn't bother to read the postinst script, so here it is. #!/bin/sh # Debian xdm package post-installation script # Copyright 1998-2000 Branden Robinson. # Licensed under the GNU General Public License, version 2. See the file # /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL or http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.txt. # Acknowlegements to Stephen Early, Mark Eichin, and Manoj Srivastava. set -e cleanup () { # unroll changes in xdm preinst for file in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-config; do if [ -e $file.xdm-old ]; then rm $file mv $file.xdm-old $file fi done /etc/init.d/xdm start } # TODO comment out these two functions for stable release maplink () { # returns what symlink should point to case $1 in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-config) echo /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config ;; esac; } readlink () { # perl kludge until readlink(1) from tetex-bin is moved into an essential package # returns what symlink actually points to perl -e '$l = shift; exit 1 unless -l $l; $r = readlink $l; exit 1 unless $r; print $r\n' $1; } trap echo ;\ echo 'Received signal. Aborting configuration of xdm package.' ;\ echo -n 'Cleaning up...' ;\ cleanup ;\ echo 'done.' ;\ echo ;\ exit 1 1 2 3 15 case $1 in configure) ;; abort-upgrade|abort-remove|abort-deconfigure) cleanup exit 0 ;; *) echo ERROR: xdm postinst called with unknown argument \$1\. echo Aborting configuration of xdm package. echo -n Cleaning up... cleanup echo done. exit 1 ;; esac condecho=: # TODO sanity checks -- comment out these for stable release for symlink in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-config; do if [ -L $symlink ]; then if [ $(maplink $symlink) != $(readlink $symlink) ]; then $condecho echo ERROR: $symlink symbolic link points to the wrong echo place. Please report this message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. condecho=echo fi elif [ -e $symlink ]; then $condecho echo ERROR: $symlink is not a symbolic link. echo Please report this message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. condecho=echo else $condecho echo ERROR: $symlink symbolic link does not exist. echo Please report this message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. condecho=echo fi done if [ -d /usr/doc -a ! -e /usr/doc/xdm -a -d /usr/share/doc/xdm ]; then ln -sf ../share/doc/xdm /usr/doc/xdm fi # deal with a bug in very old versions of xbase for dir in rc0.d rc1.d rc6.d; do if [ -L etc/$dir/K1xdm ]; then mv /etc/$dir/K1xdm /etc/$dir/K01xdm fi done # don't start xdm if we're currently in X on the display it attempts # to manage by default nostart= xdm_running= for hostname in localhost $(hostname) $(hostname -f); do if echo $DISPLAY | grep -q ^$hostname:0.*; then nostart=yes fi done # or if it's already running if start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --signal 0 --pid /var/run/xdm.pid --exec /usr/bin/X11/xdm; then nostart=yes xdm_running=yes fi # or if the options file says not to if ! grep -qs ^restart-on-upgrade /etc/X11/xdm/xdm.options; then nostart=yes fi update-rc.d xdm defaults 99 01 /dev/null 21 if [ $xdm_running ]; then if [ -d /var/state/xdm ]; then $condecho echo Note: obsolete directory /var/state/xdm cannot be removed because xdm is still echo running. Reinstall the xdm package (or remove the directory manually) when xdm echo is not running. condecho=echo fi else if [ -d /var/state/xdm ]; then rm -r /var/state/xdm fi fi [ $nostart ] || /etc/init.d/xdm start || true exit This will cause ANY system that has 'login' running on vt7 to break. In the instance of login running on the vt that xdm attempts to start on, ALL keyboard input is disabled. Mouse events work fine, but one is unable to enter a username/password. If the system is not network connected to allow killing xdm from remote a HARD reset is required and the system must be started in SINGLE mode in order to correct the error. If YOU had READ the FAQ that is shipped with ALL Debian installations of the X WINDOW SYSTEM, you would KNOW that this problem is WELL-KNOWN about and that there is a WELL-KNOWN FIX. You'd also UNDERSTAND that because /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers is a CONFFILE, your CHANGES to the file, such as NOT STARTING AN X SERVER ON VT 7, are RESPECTED during upgrades; if the upstream version has changed AND you have MODIFIED your version, then you are ASKED which version you want to install. You are EXPLICITLY given the OPTION of KEEPING YOUR VERSION of the file. In
Re: Is it possible for finger to not show .forward?
On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 03:01:01PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: as for fingerd i see no reason it should be run as anything other then nobody, if at all. Or run cfingerd. It can be configured not to show the .forward. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
Re: Group for /dev/cdrom, Does not work for me :-(, addendum
On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 03:06:04PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: in that case it should work, does id or groups show that you are a member of the cdrom group? is your cdrom REALLY /dev/hdc? (secondary master) groups does not show me as a member of cdrom. I did the following; janet:~# useradd rosef cdrom Which is what cdtools tells you to do when you attempt to access a restriced drive. I am also listed in gshadow and gshadow- the same as group and group- respectively. Further, groups lists me as a member of dip. There is no apparent difference between the way I am listed for dip and the way I am listed for cdrom in the group files. And, yes, my cdrom is hdc. I have 2 ide drives on the first ide channel and cdrom and ide tape on the second. I remember seeing this as the recomended configuration when I installed my tape drive. -- Frisco Rose By any other name, I would smell the same E.O.U. Student [EMAIL PROTECTED] (541) 962-2987 Science Journal Ed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] EOU Hoke Center 307 (541) 962-3787 La Grande, OR. 97850
Re: Rename files
On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 12:34:07PM -0800, brian moore wrote: rename 's/_/ /g' *.mp3 rename? :o -- | Christian Surchi | www.firenze.linux.it/~csurchi| www. | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | gnu. | | FLUG: www.firenze.linux.it | Debian GNU/Linux: www.debian.org | org | Every program is a part of some other program, and rarely fits.
Re: Group for /dev/cdrom, Does not work for me :-(, addendum
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (esoR ocsirF) wrote: On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 03:06:04PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: in that case it should work, does id or groups show that you are a member of the cdrom group? is your cdrom REALLY /dev/hdc? (secondary master) groups does not show me as a member of cdrom. I did the following; janet:~# useradd rosef cdrom Which is what cdtools tells you to do when you attempt to access a restriced drive. I am also listed in gshadow and gshadow- the same as group and group- respectively. Further, groups lists me as a member of dip. There is no apparent difference between the way I am listed for dip and the way I am listed for cdrom in the group files. If groups isn't displaying the right output after a useradd, then my guess is that you haven't logged out and in again since the useradd ...? -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Limping and bleeding with Corel Linux
Hi there, My brief? story: I am (was?) a windowman (meaning a mouseman -computer (almost) illiterate). Got sick and tired of being called basically a criminal, by my Laptop using Windows, with messages such as illegal operation. Bought Corel Linux based on Debian. After spending a month trying to figure out how to install this thing (luckily, I was really sick with a bad case of cold), found out that I can not install it on my laptop. Turned to my sons old PC NEC Ready 60, and gave it a new name: This will be my MLINUX machine (mean linux machine). After a nightmare and at least (35 installations or attempts) that lasted several weeks this is where I am: I installed one copy of linux to my C: drive and one to my D: drive. The idea was that if I manage to get one crashed I will simply use the other one, (maybe try to fix the first one with it - remember I do not really know a lot?) My principal copy was on C: drive. My backup is on D: drive. I got them both running reasonable well. I had only one problem left: RAM. I have 104M, and machine thought I had 64M. This is where append=mem=104M in etc/lilo.conf became an option to try. Last time I tried it I got a bad crash from which could not recover. (That was what gave me the idea of the two copies). This time I tried it on my backup copy. It did work as far as RAM but boy am I in a mess now. I can not get my C: copy to run. D: copy I can barely get to too. It is now for some reason my first suggested choice and my C: copy is linux a2 in the lilo window. When I try to run a2 all I get is a flashing - cursor. Pressing ctrl alt del gets me back to lilo window. Choosing Linux everything goes well until Checking file system , then I get some text scrolling. The text has a black line horizontally across it. Them I get a message that fsck failed fix manually or press ctrl D to resume (you guess which one I choose?). ctrl D gets me to workable copy on my D: drive from where I am sending this SOS message. On my laptop I have windows 98 and I am still resisting to go there. With all the trouble I went through (and all I still probably will go through) I am becoming more and more attached to linux, as I slowly learn its intricacies. But a thought went through my mind. Linux is supposed to be a free software. Is Debian really free? Is it free if only programming elite can use it? Or are we mousemen really retarded now after prolonged use of windows? Attached are my messy etc/lilo.conf files. One with root at dev/hda2 is my C: copy. Please help. I do not dare to do anything on my own anymore. If any debian expert lives in Toronto area I am willing to pay him to get my mlinux machine in a perfect order. Thank you for help. Val.boot=/dev/hda install=/boot/cboot.b message = /boot/splash.lilo map=/boot/map compact prompt delay=300 timeout=300 image=/vmlinuz label=[]_{} vga=0xf04 append=no-scroll mem=104M root=/dev/hdb2 read-only image=/vmlinuz-debug label={}~VGA_mode vga=normal append=3 mem=104M root=/dev/hdb2 read-only image=/vmlinuz label={}~Console vga=normal append=1 mem=104M root=/dev/hdb2 read-only image=/vmlinuz-debug label={}~Debug vga=normal append=mem=104M root=/dev/hdb2 read-only other=/dev/hda2 label=[]_{}~a2 boot=/dev/hda1 install=/boot/cboot.b message = /boot/splash.lilo map=/boot/map compact prompt delay=50 timeout=300 image=/vmlinuz label=[]_{} vga=0xf04 append=no-scroll mem=104M root=/dev/hda2 read-only image=/vmlinuz-debug label={}~VGA_mode vga=normal append=3 mem=104M root=/dev/hda2 read-only image=/vmlinuz label={}~Console vga=normal append=1 mem=104M root=/dev/hda2 read-only image=/vmlinuz-debug label={}~Debug vga=normal append=mem=104M root=/dev/hda2 read-only other=/dev/hdb2 label=[]_{}~b2
Re: Group for /dev/cdrom, Does not work for me :-(, addendum
On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 01:27:56AM +, Colin Watson wrote: If groups isn't displaying the right output after a useradd, then my guess is that you haven't logged out and in again since the useradd ...? ACK! I have gotten so used to things working when I do them ( as opposed to Windoughs, where you have to reboot in order for anything to be current ). Is there a specific reason why this doesn't happen dynamically? Thanks for the help PS. I remember someones signature from a while ago with something to the effect Windows has detected mouse button activity, You must restart Windows for changes to be effective. Would you like to restart your computer now? -- Frisco Rose By any other name, I would smell the same E.O.U. Student [EMAIL PROTECTED] (541) 962-2987 Science Journal Ed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] EOU Hoke Center 307 (541) 962-3787 La Grande, OR. 97850
Re: ssh loading at startup
trying to get ssh to load at boot i have created a script in /etc/init.d called ssh i have also created a symbolic link to it from /etc/rc2.d called S20ssh but upon bootup the log says /etc/init.d/rc: /etc/rc2.d/S20ssh: Permission denied Does root have execute permissions on the script in /etc/init.d that S20ssh points to? The symlink permissions are ignored. Jason anyone know why, or maybe an easier way then the one explained? i have made the script that i think will work /etc/init.d/ssh #! /bin/sh # /etc/init.d/ssh: start and stop the secure shell(tm) daemon test -x /usr/local/sbin/sshd || exit 0 # Configurable options: case $1 in start) echo -n Starting Secure Shell server: sshd start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --pidfile /var/run/sshd.pid --exec /usr/sbin/sshd echo . ;; stop) echo -n Stopping Secure Shell server: sshd start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --oknodo --pidfile /var/run/sshd.pid --exec /usr/sbin/sshd echo . ;; reload|force-reload) echo -n Reloading Secure Shell server's configuration start-stop-daemon --stop --signal 1 --quiet --oknodo --pidfile /var/run/sshd.pid --exec /usr/sbin/sshd echo . ;; restart) echo -n Restarting Secure Shell server: sshd start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --oknodo --pidfile /var/run/sshd.pid --exec /usr/sbin/sshd start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --pidfile /var/run/sshd.pid --exec /usr/sbin/sshd echo . ;; *) echo Usage: /etc/init.d/ssh {start|stop|reload|force-reload|restart} exit 1 esac exit 0 but how do i make a symlinks to it: /etc/rc[RUNLEVEL].d is where you have to put symlinks to this script i am a newbie ls - Original Message - From: Ron Rademaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Beavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian list debian-user@lists.debian.org; recipient list not shown: ; Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 3:38 PM Subject: Re: ssh loading at startup /etc/init.d/ is where you have to put the script /etc/rc[RUNLEVEL].d is where you have to put symlinks to this script Ron On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Beavis wrote: everytime i reboot my linux box i have to run the ssh deamon where can i put a line to tell it to start the ssh service at bootup thankx -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Group for /dev/cdrom, Does not work for me :-(, addendum
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (esoR ocsirF) wrote: On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 01:27:56AM +, Colin Watson wrote: If groups isn't displaying the right output after a useradd, then my guess is that you haven't logged out and in again since the useradd ...? ACK! I have gotten so used to things working when I do them ( as opposed to Windoughs, where you have to reboot in order for anything to be current ). Is there a specific reason why this doesn't happen dynamically? Thanks for the help You rarely have to reboot in Linux, but you often have to restart processes. It's not really something that can be fixed; each process (say, each shell) keeps its own list of the groups to which it belongs. To change these dynamically, you'd have to have useradd invade every other process and change its list of groups. When you consider that processes owned by any given user can take on new supplementary groups using things like newgrp, or even potentially have a completely different set of groups if they're invoked by something setgid, this is a very difficult problem, and violates expected inter-process protection something horrific. (Although useradd has root privileges, admittedly.) Basically, don't go there. :) I'd be amazed if it were possible to do this cleanly. Don't start thinking you need to reboot, but do expect to have to restart processes sometimes when something major affects them. It's usually not too much of a problem. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: checking md5sum of installed packages
On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 02:14:38AM +, Jim Breton wrote: I'm sure this has come up before but searching the archives for dpkg md5sum etc. just comes up with WAY too many matches. :( Anyway my question is: is there a dpkg command I can run that will check the md5sums of all my dpkg-installed files? debsums, but read the man page so you don't worry about some of the sums that don't match. -- ++ | Eric G. Milleregm2@jps.net | | GnuPG public key: http://www.jps.net/egm2/gpg.asc | ++
Re: Debian rocks
On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 11:19:28AM -0800, Bart Friederichs wrote: snipped I have 8M, but the upper 4 are bad. I am just busy installing it now. I *know* it is the ram that does it ; ). Maybe I will get me more RAM, hope it is easy to get some 30pins SIMMs. Take a look at http://www.memoryx.com ... specifically http://www.memoryx.net/30pinsimm.html Listed there are 1meg, 4 meg, and 16meg SIMMs, with a variety of the 1 meg and the 4 meg parts. -- Mike Werner KA8YSD | Where do you want to go today? ICQ# 12934898 | As far from Redmond as possible! '91 GS500E| Morgantown WV | Only dead fish go with the flow.
comsat, biff and icmplogd
Reply-To: Hi, I'm trying to figure out why my icmplogs are showing UDP connections whenever my system recieve email. The connections are on UDP port 512. I'm using sendmail from woody as my MTA. It makes no difference whether or not biff is installed. the log reads: Mar 21 21:16:37 sxe icmplogd: destination unreachable from localhost [127.0.0.1] any ideas about how to solve this one would be appreciated. Thanks. David
Re: What r the correct perms for SW in /usr/local ?
On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 10:07:18PM -0500, S. Salman Ahmed wrote: The only way around the problem for non-root users was to create a new group (javauser), chgrp -R javauser /usr/local/uml/Together, and then add myself to that group javauser. The permissions before this fix were sth like: this seems broken to me @phoenix:[/usr/local/uml/Together] dir total 19076 drwxr-sr-x 13 root staff1024 Mar 21 21:20 ./ drwxrwsrwx3 root staff1024 Mar 21 21:19 ../ drwxrwxr-x6 1002 staff1024 Mar 21 21:44 bin/ -rw-rw-r--1 1002 staff 5 Mar 12 13:29 buildnum.txt drwxrwx--x2 1002 staff1024 Mar 21 21:28 config/ drwxr-xr-x6 1002 staff1024 Mar 12 13:27 doc/ drwxrwxr-x7 1002 staff1024 Mar 12 13:28 help/ drwxr-xr-x6 1002 staff1024 Mar 12 13:29 lib/ drwxrwxr-x2 1002 staff1024 Mar 12 13:29 license/ drwxr-xr-x4 1002 staff1024 Mar 12 13:28 modules/ drwxrwxr-x2 1002 staff1024 Mar 12 13:29 myprojects/ drwxrwxr-x2 1002 staff1024 Mar 12 13:27 out/ -rw-rw-r--1 1002 staff 17934 Mar 12 13:29 readme.html drwxr-xr-x3 1002 staff1024 Mar 12 13:28 samples/ drwxrwxr-x2 1002 staff1024 Mar 12 13:29 source/ these files should have a real owner. Which, finally, leads to my question: what should the correct permissions be of an application/software installed in /usr/local ? owned by root.root writable by only the owner, ie exectables should be mode 0755 (-rwxr-xr-x) directorys should be the same, ordinary non-execuable files should be owned by root.root mode -644 (-rw-r--r--) For instance, I have noticed that the directory in which I have installed netscape-4.72 (from tarball) has some weird permissions: chown -R root.root netscape/ chmod 755 netscape @phoenix:[/usr/local] dir netscape/ total 24578 drwxr-sr-x8 root staff 1024 Feb 26 17:23 ./ drwxrwsr-x 15 root staff 1024 Mar 20 21:57 ../ -r--r--r--1 5115 uucp 16154 Jan 31 09:09 LICENSE -r--r--r--1 5115 uucp323399 Jan 31 09:08 Netscape.ad -r--r--r--1 5115 uucp 16215 Jan 31 09:09 README -r--r--r--1 5115 uucp 4674 Oct 18 1994 XKeysymDB -r--r--r--1 5115 uucp 11357 Jan 31 09:11 bookmark.htm drwxr-xr-x3 5115 uucp 1024 Jan 31 09:11 java/ snip This Together/J is a strange application in that it seems to be writing to dirs/files in the directory in which it is installed, but for other this is *BROKEN* nothing should EVER be writing to its program files or the directories its installed in, where did you get this program? it sounds like it was written for win* or macos. applications that don't do this, what should the group and owner be for maximum security ? debian by default installs all directories under /usr/local/ root.staff mode 2775, personally i think this is bogus, no non-root user should be able to mess with stuff there, it just opens up all kinds of ugly trojaning scenerios. so i recommend following the /usr/* permission model which is owner: root group: root umask 022 (executables and directories 0755, regular files 0644) any program that refuses to function in this environment is completely broken and IMO deserves nothing less then a visit from Mr. rm -rf. if you have such a program it is completely unsuitable for multiuser use and you might as well have any user who wants to use the prgram install it under there home directory in ~/usr/bin or ~/bin. if you want to follow the debian style for /usr/local then everything should be owned by root.staff, and possibly mode 0775, and be VERY picky about who is in group staff. I reccomend against this however. if you are a member of group staff, and you run some program that does nasty things, it has a whole mess of software in /usr/local it can trojan. not just for you but for every user on the system. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/
MS Frontpage Ext.
has anyone experienced any bugs w/ the fp_extensions, for example i have a frontpage website loaded on my slink 2.2.14 and when a user tries to access the home page w/ netscape 4.7, they get a script error, loads fine w/ any other netscape ver., and not too many problems w/ iexplorer execpt that i have a few translucent buttons that don't work properly. i know it is not the source code because i have a mirrored site w/ a hosting company, and their fp_extensions work fine, no bugs at all! They are using a unix platform. are there any logs that can pin point the problem, or are there ways to debug it? Not meaning to ask too many questions at once, but i am kind of new at this. thankx for any replies...take care...beavis What system are you using? I installed FP Ext and the tools on a Debian slink 2.1 and did not have problems get this tools running. Try www.rtr.com. There you'll normally find the latest release including the tools and the source code for the Apache module. Sven On 19-Mar-2000 Werner Reisberger wrote: Does anybody know how to install Frontpage Server Extension on a Debian system with libc6? I was able to compile Apache with the frontpage module but the installation of the extension failed becaused the binary therein are compiled against libc5 and there aren't any sources @= I hate this stuff but some customers wants it. -- Werner -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Please reply only to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Date: 20-Mar-2000 Time: 23:16:33 -- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Authentication...? RADIUS ?
Hi I am trying to set up an ISP, and RADIUS has been sugested for the authenication and billing of the users on the dial up servers. Any one have any recomendations?? Also WHERE can i find it??? It was not listed under dselect But then I'm new to all this so I could be doing it wrong!! __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Speed
How can I tell what speed I have been connected at to my ISP?
Re: MS Frontpage Ext.
what version of fp_extensions? where did you get it? what version of apache?(if your not using apache what are you using?) how did you install it ? etc etc .. just saying slink with kernel 2.2.14 says nothing.. the distribution and kernel have virtually nothing to do with FP. I run Apache 1.3.9 (self compiled) with: mod_frontpage 4.0.4.3 (aka fp2000) mod_perl 1.2.1 AuthMySQL 2.20 mod_roaming 1.0 mod_gzip v??? mod_throttle v?? i got my frontpage stuff from www.rtr.com although i don't use it myself, some of my customers do and i havent heard of any problems as of yet and for the record i am running debian 2.1r4 with kernel 2.0.36+securelinux SMP. :/ nate On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Beavis wrote: beavis beavis beavis has anyone experienced any bugs w/ the fp_extensions, for example beavis i have a frontpage website loaded on my slink 2.2.14 and when a user tries beavis to access the home page w/ netscape 4.7, they get a script error, loads beavis fine beavis w/ any other netscape ver., and not too many problems w/ iexplorer execpt beavis that i have a few translucent buttons that don't work properly. beavis beavis i know it is not the source code because i have a mirrored site w/ a beavis hosting beavis company, and their fp_extensions work fine, no bugs at all! They are using beavis a unix platform. beavis beavis are there any logs that can pin point the problem, or are there ways to beavis debug it? Not meaning to ask too many questions at once, but i am kind of beavis new at this. beavis beavis beavis thankx for any replies...take care...beavis beavis beavis What system are you using? I installed FP Ext and the tools on a Debian beavis slink beavis 2.1 and did not have problems get this tools running. beavis beavis Try www.rtr.com. There you'll normally find the latest release including beavis the beavis tools and the source code for the Apache module. beavis beavis Sven beavis beavis beavis On 19-Mar-2000 Werner Reisberger wrote: beavisDoes anybody know how to install Frontpage Server Extension on a beavis Debian beavissystem with libc6? beavis beavisI was able to compile Apache with the frontpage module but the beavis installation beavisof the extension failed becaused the binary therein are compiled beavis against beavislibc5 and there aren't any sources @= beavis beavisI hate this stuff but some customers wants it. beavis beavis-- Werner beavis beavis beavis-- beavisUnsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] beavis beavis/dev/null beavis beavis -- beavis Please reply only to beavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] beavis -- beavis Date: 20-Mar-2000 beavis Time: 23:16:33 beavis -- beavis beavis beavis -- beavis Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] beavis /dev/null beavis beavis beavis beavis beavis beavis beavis -- beavis Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null beavis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 3:09pm up 215 days, 3:42, 1 user, load average: 1.03, 1.11, 1.08
Re: Authentication...? RADIUS ?
we use radius for both livingston portmasters and ascend max, i believe radius is to some extent vendor specific, so i suggest contacting the company who makes the equipment for compadible software. or do a search on freshmeat: http://www.freshmeat.net/search.php3?query=radius quite a few different ones depending on your needs. nate On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, The_Phantom 74 wrote: the_ph Hi the_ph the_ph I am trying to set up an ISP, and RADIUS has been sugested for the the_ph authenication and billing of the users on the dial up servers. the_ph the_ph Any one have any recomendations?? the_ph the_ph Also WHERE can i find it??? the_ph It was not listed under dselect the_ph the_ph But then I'm new to all this so I could be doing it wrong!! the_ph __ the_ph Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com the_ph the_ph the_ph -- the_ph Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null the_ph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 3:09pm up 215 days, 3:42, 1 user, load average: 1.03, 1.11, 1.08
Re: Speed
usually /var/log/messages will show what pppd/chat reports as the connect speed. this is not always accurate, depending on modem configuration sometimes it shows just the speed of the port(like 115,200 and 57,600) rather then the real connect speed (like 31,200 48,000 etc) nate On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Don Cavaiani wrote: doncma How can I tell what speed I have been connected at to my ISP? doncma doncma doncma -- doncma Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null doncma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 3:09pm up 215 days, 3:42, 1 user, load average: 1.03, 1.11, 1.08
Re: Bug#60891: xdm: Installs default tty7 line in Xservers -- break s system
Note to the other two maintainers. Branden has closed the bug I submitted. Based on the information he provided to me in his message I feel that you also should close the bugs I submitted against gdm and wdm. They should possibly be re-submitted at a lesser severity, but not as critical. Please read my message below and determine for yourself. Branden, I've just subscribed to debian-users and have yet to get any messages after my confirmation. Please feel free to forward this if my CC dosn't go through. Hmm, Just re-read my bug-report message. Used too much cut/paste to post the three reports. As stated in the final paragraph, I do NOT have xdm installed right now, I have wdm. So I relied on the fact that all 3 packages defaulted to tty7 and that it is applied by the wdm.postinst script... ---snip--- #! /bin/sh -e # # WDM postinst. # # (C) 1998, 1999 Marcelo Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wdm_config_file=/etc/X11/wdm/wdm-config wdm_Xsession=/etc/X11/wdm/Xsession common_Xsession=/etc/X11/Xsession wdm_Xservers=/etc/X11/wdm/Xservers xdm_Xservers=/etc/X11/xdm/Xservers default_local_server=:0 local /usr/bin/X11/X vt7 ---snip--- Also, in three paragraphs I used *6* all-caps words. Hardly throwing them around gratuitously. (you used ~90 in 12 paragraphs). At least you did say I was good at describing the problem, that was my intent all along. As for the fact that the postinst scripts are sure to leave prior config files intact -- that hardly applies when I've not installed the package previously or if I have purged a package not planning to use it again. I am on a single, non-networked, machine in a home environment with multiple users. As we trust each other, we often leave a tty open and logged in. Therefore, early on I adjusted my inittab to run a getty on tty1 through tty10. I pipe some of syslogs output to tty11 and have used tty12 for X for quite a while. If there are others in a similar situation who decide to install one of these packages it will cause similar problems. I did ask on openprojects IRC #debian several days running to see if anyone else had experienced this problem. There were several suggestions relating to using (or not) xkb and a few other things I can't recall now. But only ONE person suggested checking that particular config file to see if it was trying to start on a tty with a getty running. To be honest, I am not a programmer of any sort. I can hack together shell scripts to do things I need if I really have to, but that's about it. When the problem exhibited itself I did not even consider checking the X FAQ. I had no problem at all with X, it worked just fine using 'startx' and has for quite some time. My problem was with all 3 display managers. Checking the FAQ for the X-window system itself did not occur to me, and I don't think it will to new users either. I personally still think it is a bug though I have NO idea how to work around it. The default installation causes some systems to require a hard reset into single mode in order to correct the problem. In my mind that makes it a critical bug -- but since it will most likely affect very few systems it could probably be argued that it is a level 1 bug, or with the difficulty of fixing it, it could even be a level 0 bug. In the future, however, I will make an attempt to strike up a dialog with the maintainer of a package to help determine if I should submit a bug report. I believe debian's goal is to create a system usable by most. Such a system must somehow account for some unexpected setups. I submitted a non-critical bug in a couple of -doc packages that Manoj Srivastava maintains. The ONLY cause for the installs to break was my horrid drive partitioning that had left me with too little room on /usr. I had the /usr/doc and /usr/share/doc directories symlinked in from elsewhere and that broke the postinst quite thoroughly. He fixed the problem on his end and I also found a way to back up and re-partition my drives properly. I did not feel my bug report was impolite or condescending. I was merely trying to clearly describe what had happened to me and could, conceivably, happen to other first time users of the display manager packages. As far as not 'assigning a bug critical severity', when I run 'bug' it asks me to give a one line description, then asks me to 'assign a severity' based on the descriptions it gives. I chose critical because it caused the 'whole system' to break and require a hard reset: 4) Critical bug. Makes unrelated software on the system (or the whole system) break, or causes serious data loss, or introduces a security hole on systems where you install the package. I think that having the '*dm' packages not start on install if no prior in stallation is detected and post a *notice* on screen describing the need to correct the Xservers (or gdm.conf) file would be enough to mostly guarantee that this wouldn't happen. Being required to hard reset your machine in single mode to
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Re: Limping and bleeding with Corel Linux
Val Dokuzovic wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --E5BEFC36B7A77E9638304BBE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there, My brief? story: I am (was?) a windowman (meaning a mouseman -computer (almost) illiterate). Got sick and tired of being called basically a criminal, by my Laptop using Windows, with messages such as I have Debian running on a laptop; I can't speak for the Corel version, though. illegal operation. Bought Corel Linux based on Debian. After spending a month trying to figure out how to install this thing (luckily, I was really sick with a bad case of cold), found out that I can not install it on my laptop. Turned to my sons old PC NEC Ready 60, and gave it a new name: This will be my MLINUX machine (mean linux machine). After a nightmare and at least (35 installations or attempts) that lasted several weeks this is where I am: I installed one copy of linux to my C: drive and one to my D: drive. The idea was that if I manage to get one crashed I will simply use the other one, (maybe try to fix the first one with it - remember I do not really know a lot?) My principal copy was on C: drive. My backup is on D: drive. I got them both running reasonable well. I had only one problem left: RAM. I have 104M, and machine thought I had 64M. This is where append=mem=104M in etc/lilo.conf became an option to try. Last time I tried it I got a bad crash from which could not recover. (That was what gave me the idea of the two copies). This time I I do not think this could crash your system, unless you told it too much (104Mb is a very strange number for memory). tried it on my backup copy. It did work as far as RAM but boy am I in a mess now. I can not get my C: copy to run. D: copy I can barely get to too. It is now for some reason my first suggested choice and my C: copy is linux a2 in the lilo window. When I try to run a2 all I get is a flashing - cursor. Pressing ctrl alt del gets me back to lilo window. What messages do you see before that? How far does the boot process get? Choosing Linux everything goes well until Checking file system , then I get some text scrolling. The text has a black line horizontally across it. Them I get a message that fsck failed fix manually or press ctrl D to resume (you guess which one I choose?). ctrl D gets me to You MUST fix this. If fsck is reporting errors, it means your filesystem is corrupt. Doing anything more with it is likely to corrupt it much much worse. [The most frequent cause of filesystem corruption is turning the machine off without a proper shutdown.] The command is `fsck -y /dev/hdb2'. The -y option means that fsck will fix everything without asking you; in your state of knowledge (and mine), this is the only reasonable option. (If you have any other partitions, you may also need to run fsck on them.) Depending on the extent of the damage, you may end up with a fixed system; there may be files in /_your_partition_/lost+found; or you may have to give up and reinstall. workable copy on my D: drive from where I am sending this SOS message. On my laptop I have windows 98 and I am still resisting to go there. With all the trouble I went through (and all I still probably will go through) I am becoming more and more attached to linux, as I slowly learn its intricacies. But a thought went through my mind. Linux is supposed to be a free software. Is Debian really free? Is it free if You have to learn skills to use anything. A computer is incredibly complex and few of us get anywhere near learning all about it, but the more we learn, the more we can do. When you get past this problem, you will be a lot more capable than when you only knew Windows. only programming elite can use it? Or are we mousemen really retarded now after prolonged use of windows? Attached are my messy etc/lilo.conf files. One with root at dev/hda2 is my C: copy. Please help. I do not dare to do anything on my own anymore. If any debian expert lives in Toronto area I am willing to pay him to get my mlinux machine in a perfect order. Thank you for help. Val. I'm too far away for that! How much of these lilo files are your own work and how much is Corel? The labels seem very strange; apart from that, I don't see anything particularly odd (except the number 104M - how do you get that? 64Mb + 32Mb +8Mb? - are you sure those memory bits are all compatible?). For comparison, here is my /etc/lilo.conf: boot=/dev/hda3 root=/dev/hda3 install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map vga=normal delay=20 # Linux image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14 label=Linux append=mem=128m aic7xxx=ultra parport=auto read-only # Linux image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.13 label=Linux-old append=mem=128m aic7xxx=ultra parport=auto read-only # Windows 95 other=/dev/hda1 label=Win95
Re: Bug#60891: xdm: Installs default tty7 line in Xservers -- break s system
On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 01:33:38AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note to the other two maintainers. Branden has closed the bug I submitted. Based on the information he provided to me in his message I feel that you also should close the bugs I submitted against gdm and wdm. They should possibly be re-submitted at a lesser severity, but not as critical. Please read my message below and determine for yourself. Branden, I've just subscribed to debian-users and have yet to get any messages after my confirmation. Please feel free to forward this if my CC dosn't go through. Hmm, Just re-read my bug-report message. Used too much cut/paste to post the three reports. As stated in the final paragraph, I do NOT have xdm installed right now, I have wdm. So I relied on the fact that all 3 packages defaulted to tty7 and that it is applied by the wdm.postinst script... Thank you for your calm reply to my very aggravated message. I did in fact download the sources to the standard getty program that we use and started poking around for a solution. I don't know if we'll be able to implement a final solution to this problem in time for the potato release (which will hopefully be soon), but here's what I think: 1) Modifying /etc/inittab would be a bad idea because it's a very sensitive thing; if a buggy package screws it up you may be very, very sorry. 2) I think a better approach would be to modify the X server and console getty programs to use lock files on the console devices. I'll want to chat with some people I trust about file locking issues (say, MDA maintainers :) ) before starting to hack on this. I guess this solution would go for programs like openvt as well. It would ultimately become Policy, but first I want to have a workable solution in place. I did some experimenting this evening and I've found that no programs seem to have any respect for any others when it comes to pouncing on a VC. getty will step on X, X will step on getty, X will step on X, etc. Permit me to *beseech* the other display manager maintainers to not modify the conffiles of another package, if that's what you're doing. I expect [gkw]dm to have their own config directories under /etc/X11/ and not fool with mine. I would do you the same courtesy, and besides, policy says you shouldn't. :) Anyway, anyone who wants to work on this issue should subscribe to debian-x and help hash it out. -- G. Branden Robinson|Suffer before God and ye shall be Debian GNU/Linux |redeemed. God loves us, so He makes us [EMAIL PROTECTED] |suffer Christianity. roger.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ |-- Aaron Dunsmore pgptPORRuBljO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Unresolved symbols potato and kernel 2.0.36
On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 04:29:21PM +, David Wright wrote: Out of everyone that got and read my message, you're the *only* one that took offense. Well, that responded anyways. It seems most realized what I said was extreme frustration and not a personal attack. Please accept my messages in that light. First, is sounds to me like you are using stock debian kernels. I don't Well I have to use 2.0.36. 2.2 doesn't work for me, remember? And I use stock kernels because it avoids another level of confusion and troubleshooting in situations like this. I don't know why I should converse with a person who starts the conversation by grumbling I suppose it's the height of naivite to expect an answer about Debian around here, but here goes The reason I said that is in about two weeks' time I have posted on about four different issues; unresolved symbols, serial port, kdm/wdm, and other kernel/module problems. I never got *any* response from my kdm/wdm and serial questions despite carefully worded subject lines, clips from dmesg and serial.conf, descriptions of what I was doing, etc. They still don't work and I have no idea where to go for support now. Anyway, if you refuse to compile your own kernel, then you are relying on the configuration options that happened to be considered necessary for installing linux. Just for example, is the following option necessary for people installing linux? Is it set in the packaged images? I've no idea. I don't refuse to compile my own kernel, I have done so (check the thread) I just figured the kernel and modules that come from the distributor _ought_ to be matched together. It's a troubleshooting step. I was running well with adequate hardware support (for 2.0.36, anyways) and have used stock kernels successfully for about two years. At first I never had enough disk space to have the source/compiled object files and all the apps I needed. Support for sharing serial interrupts CONFIG_SERIAL_SHARE_IRQ Some serial boards have hardware support which allows multiple dumb serial ports on the same board to share a single IRQ. To enable support for this in the serial driver, say Y here. This is a very helpful snippet, thank you... is this in the 2.2.14 kernel? Is this not enabled in the stock one??? If so, that's very unconventional, for the reason you described above. It's well worth a look, though I don't understand why I would say N here -- unless it's obfuscated somewhere. I will certainly look harder for it this time. I mean, why should I have unresolved symbols when I am using a stock kernel? One could equally ask, why should you not? Like I said, if it comes out of the box, I expect it to work together. That's not an unrealistic expectation; it's the whole point of a distribution. Without that, one might as well start from scratch. And why does all of a sudden a list full of geniuses go completely silent? Grr. Well, when I originally saw the post that starts Well I upgraded, finally. And the kernel can't locate all my serial ports for some reason. I for one assumed that this was a continuing thread of conversation that I had overlooked. Looking back now, I might have been wrong about that. Yep, there was more previously, not strictly a thread. The list is a great resource, with very helpful people... and sometimes the only place a Debian user can go. When it sounds hollow, you're hooped. I don't think this is a modules thing, it's a kernel thing (very slight difference, I guess) but more importantly, it's a support thing. So far this much-acclaimed Linux community has proven to be a bunch of the proverbial blind men. I've been using Linux for about 5 years now, through all sorts of grief and struggles, and it's just not getting much better. What are the advantages of Debian again? I have a Slackware 96 CD here that also runs kernel 2.0! Wow! Cool! Like I said, I have maybe an hour a day to spend on this; and all I do is patch the dam Being insulted doesn't give me any motivation to make any suggestions. Sorry. And yet you did -- thanks again. That's all I wanted, you know; another guy mailed me and said I have 2.2 working here with 4 serial ports, using shared interrupts That tells me volumes and I wish I had that over the weekend. I also am reminded how e-mail can carry more weight in the reading than we may expect or intend. I can't change what I said, and maybe I wouldn't... the complaint and frustration still exist. The Linux community needs to do something to make it easier and less of a constant fight for folks. I try to help all I can (search for my posts) but there's obviously still something lacking. Maybe I need to work on a HOWTO (though I need the information from somewhere)! Let me again assure you; I have no reason or intent to insult you, my computer, on the other hand has some strong words coming. Always does, come to think of
VPN
I've been away too long... Anyway, I have a problem and it involves a Virtual Private Network a.k.a. VPN. I ask anyone who has done this kind of thing to please tell me how they did set it up or point me in the direction of good documentation. My first setup will be between two LAN's but it has to scale to three LAN's and more... Any pointers, advice or pitfall warnings are welcome. Thanks in advance, Onno
Esound dependency problems
Hello. I have a small problem (well, actually it is a BIG one indeed) with installing several X packages, including the GNOME system, under the frozen (potato) distribution. I have ALSA installed, and so I use the ALSA version of the Enlightened soud daemon (esound-alsa0). Everyting works fine, but: Some packages insist that they depend on the package esound0, which in turn conflicts esound-alsa0! An even though esound-alsa0 provides esound0, this doesn't seem to bother these packages, and dselect wont install them. Someone suggested taht I should install these manually, overriding the dependencies, but this would take a hell of a lot of time, and I would get annoying dependency screens every time I used dselect... Anyone have an idea, what I should do? Daniel Szabo
resetting dselect
hello, i installed a few .deb manually meaning dpkg -i filename but dselect thinks that are are still unconfigured, which is not true how do u reset the deselect so that it doesn't pick up the packages as existing in the system the packages are kdebase, kbelibs2g tkankx beavis..
Who knows German?
Please excuse me for abusing the list to try to recruit some volunteers ... LinuxTag e.V is the non-profit association that organizes Europe's largest GNU/Linux and free software convention (this year: June 29 - July 2 in Stuttgart--see http://www.linuxtag.org/ ). The group could use a hand in translating web content, press materials and occasional correspondence from German into English. Anyone interested in contributing their skills? Tony -- Tony Crawford -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Phone: +49-3341-30 99 99 -- Fax: +49-3341-30 99 98
Re: Rename files
On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 03:57:14PM +0100, Robert Kasunic wrote: Hi! I'm trying to rename a lot of files. I just want to substitute underlines with whitespaces. How can I do that? You might use mmv. If your files are: foo_bars then use mmv *_* '#1\ #2' (quotes required) uh ... i think, that the \ in '#1\ #2' should not be there. it's intended to quote the space, but as it is already quoted within ', it will be taken literally. if you don't quote the #1 #2, then the backslash would be required, but then you also would have to quote the #s. so possible quotings are: #1 #2 (here we can have shell-expansion of variables ($)) '#1 #2' (here everything is taken literally = in this case the same)) \#1\ \#2 or (a bit weird :-) '#'1' #'2 all of them work. regards, ossi -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- Linux - the last service pack you'll ever need.
Re: Bash, Keys, Potato
Hi Rodrigo! On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Rodrigo Castro wrote: get the key displayed. It works as a dead key, waiting for any other key. When I do type other key, it beeps and I get no output on screen. I reinstalled bash, libncurses5, libc6 and already trying changing my keymap, but I wasn't sucessful. I am getting crazy. Did you look at your ~/.inputrc file? -- Martijn van de Streek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ik kan niet zonder mijn paperclip! - Robert van der Meulen
Re: Rename files
On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 03:57:14PM +0100, Robert Kasunic wrote: Hi! I'm trying to rename a lot of files. I just want to substitute underlines with whitespaces. How can I do that? I recently found a package called mvgp which does exactly what you want. It seems to work quite well. I found it at http://jayts.cx. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - running Linux Debian 2.1 (Windows-free zone) Book Reviews: http://www.pentelikon.freeserve.co.uk/bookreviews/ Skeptical articles: http://www.freethinker/uklinux.net/ To be forced by desire into any unwarrantable belief is a calamity. I.A. Richards
Re: Bash, Keys, Potato
On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 11:12:37AM +0100, Martijn van de Streek wrote: Hi Rodrigo! On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Rodrigo Castro wrote: get the key displayed. It works as a dead key, waiting for any other key. When I do type other key, it beeps and I get no output on screen. I reinstalled bash, libncurses5, libc6 and already trying changing my keymap, but I wasn't sucessful. I am getting crazy. Did you look at your ~/.inputrc file? Yes. I even created a new user with no .inputrc and no $INPUTRC (no .bashrc, .bash_profile too). I don't know what kind of stuff could be in my files to screw up only letter E. The problem occurs in console and in xterm. :-( []'s -- Rodrigo Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Science undergraduate student - University of Sao Paulo I do not fear computers. I fear the lack of them. -- Isaac Asimov
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Environment setting before gdm start
Hi, I wants to get german menues in gdm for my users, which implies setting the LC_ALL environment variable to de_DE. I did this in the /etc/profile, but this only helps after gdm is restarted. I understand that gdm starts before the /etc/profile settings are worked out. How to set some variables early enough? Any help appreciated, joachim
Re: Bug#60891: xdm: Installs default tty7 line in Xservers -- break s system
On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 02:53:50AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 01:33:38AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note to the other two maintainers. Branden has closed the bug I submitted. Based on the information he provided to me in his message I feel that you also should close the bugs I submitted against gdm and wdm. They should possibly be re-submitted at a lesser severity, but not as critical. Please read my message below and determine for yourself. Branden, I've just subscribed to debian-users and have yet to get any messages after my confirmation. Please feel free to forward this if my CC dosn't go through. Hmm, Just re-read my bug-report message. Used too much cut/paste to post the three reports. As stated in the final paragraph, I do NOT have xdm installed right now, I have wdm. So I relied on the fact that all 3 packages defaulted to tty7 and that it is applied by the wdm.postinst script... Thank you for your calm reply to my very aggravated message. I did in fact download the sources to the standard getty program that we use and started poking around for a solution. I don't know if we'll be able to implement a final solution to this problem in time for the potato release (which will hopefully be soon), but here's what I think: 1) Modifying /etc/inittab would be a bad idea because it's a very sensitive thing; if a buggy package screws it up you may be very, very sorry. 2) I think a better approach would be to modify the X server and console getty programs to use lock files on the console devices. I'll want to chat with some people I trust about file locking issues (say, MDA maintainers :) ) before starting to hack on this. I guess this solution would go for programs like openvt as well. It would ultimately become Policy, but first I want to have a workable solution in place. I did some experimenting this evening and I've found that no programs seem to have any respect for any others when it comes to pouncing on a VC. getty will step on X, X will step on getty, X will step on X, etc. Permit me to *beseech* the other display manager maintainers to not modify the conffiles of another package, if that's what you're doing. I expect [gkw]dm to have their own config directories under /etc/X11/ and not fool with mine. I would do you the same courtesy, and besides, policy says you shouldn't. :) Just a stupid clueless idea, but what if we start the xserver from the inittab, or at least have some line in the inittab saying that the Xserver/gdm/whatever will use the vtxx, in the same way that init starts getty's on his specific vt's ? BTW, should we have a runlevel with X and a runlevel without X ? or do we already have such a thing ? Friendly, Sven LUTHER
Re: VPN
On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 09:41:47AM +0100, Onno wrote: I've been away too long... Anyway, I have a problem and it involves a Virtual Private Network a.k.a. VPN. I ask anyone who has done this kind of thing to please tell me how they did set it up or point me in the direction of good documentation. My first setup will be between two LAN's but it has to scale to three LAN's and more... Any pointers, advice or pitfall warnings are welcome. I don't know if I can help you, but I'm just interested what software do you use - FreeS/Wan (http://www.freeswan.org) (GPL'ed) or VPS2.0 (http://www.strongcrypto.com/) (which is GPL'ed but uses SSH1, so there are problems with commercial use)? -- Wojciech Zabolotny http://www.ise.pw.edu.pl/~wzab Build your free Data Acquisition System: http://www.ise.pw.edu.pl/~wzab/picadc/picadc.html
Re: Environment setting before gdm start
On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 12:04:28PM +0100, Joachim Trinkwitz wrote: Hi, I wants to get german menues in gdm for my users, which implies setting the LC_ALL environment variable to de_DE. I did this in the /etc/profile, but this only helps after gdm is restarted. I understand that gdm starts before the /etc/profile settings are worked out. How to set some variables early enough? /etc/profile is for Bash. I don't think gdm cares about that. But, in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf there is this parameter (which I have set to english): DefaultLocale=english -- ++ | Eric G. Milleregm2@jps.net | | GnuPG public key: http://www.jps.net/egm2/gpg.asc | ++
DNS lookups fail
I have somehow managed to get things so that the computers going through my Debian 2.2 box for NAT can do DNS just fine, but I can't do a nslookup from the same box itself to save myself. nslookup never returns anything, even a timeout. My /etc/resolv.conf file shows the same things I have set on the other computers that work fine through my linux box. What could I have got wrong? TIA
RE: DNS lookups fail
Sorry, that was not quite right. nslookup did eventually return, with: *** Can't find server name for address ...: No response from server for all three servers I have in my /etc/resolv.conf file, which are working fine. I can ping these same servers just fine, so I don't think it's a routing issue. -- From: Guyren G Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:40:40 -0800 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: DNS lookups fail I have somehow managed to get things so that the computers going through my Debian 2.2 box for NAT can do DNS just fine, but I can't do a nslookup from the same box itself to save myself. nslookup never returns anything, even a timeout. My /etc/resolv.conf file shows the same things I have set on the other computers that work fine through my linux box. What could I have got wrong? TIA
Linux bootfloppy and mount
Is/Are there a Linux bootfloppy('s) where I can use mount? I don't care if it is NFS or SAMBA. It is like a disksless machine that needs tools and files from a server. Regards, Onno
funky samba stuff
I just upgraded a linux server here from hamm to potato. Some funky messages from samba; smbclient -L reggie -U hamish says tree connect failed: 0 after I enter my password. In the log, [2000/03/23 00:45:51, 1] smbd/server.c:main(643) smbd version 2.0.6 started. Copyright Andrew Tridgell 1992-1998 [2000/03/23 00:45:51, 1] smbd/files.c:file_init(216) file_init: Information only: requested 1 open files, 246 are available. [2000/03/23 00:45:53, 0] lib/util_sec.c:assert_gid(72) Failed to set gid privileges to (-1,1000) now set to (0,0) uid=(0,0) [2000/03/23 00:45:53, 0] lib/util.c:smb_panic(2456) PANIC: failed to set gid Any ideas what this means and how I fix it? It's running from inetd. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dhcpcd and remote NFS mounts
Hello. It is ok that the dhcpcd package does not create any symlink in /etc/rcS.d? I have a system running dhcp in which I'm trying to mount a remote filesystem by using /etc/fstab, but unfortunately remote mounts do not work because dhcpcd has not worked at that time yet. /etc/rcS.d/README says after the S40 scripts have executed, all local file systems are mounted and networking is available, but this is not true if networking is provided by dhcpcd. Is this a bug? Thanks for any help. -- af76852b22b5ebb428761d0df74ce3af (a truly random sig)
Re: Linux bootfloppy and mount
Onno [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is/Are there a Linux bootfloppy('s) where I can use mount? I don't care if it is NFS or SAMBA. It is like a disksless machine that needs tools and files from a server. The ordinary boot floppies will let you do an NFS mount. They don't do SAMBA, as far as I know.
libXpm.so.4.11
A problem with libXpm.so.4. I run debian 2.1, kernel 2.2.14, and recently downloaded and compiled a program from citrix.com which I need to access through the net certain databases on a server running MS-Windows. When I try to run the program the shell complains that can't load library 'libXpm.so.4'. I noticed Debian 2.1 has libXpm.so.4.10 in /usr/X11R6/lib. In a different computer running Slackware 4.0, I observed libXpm.so.4.11 instead, also in /usr/X11R6/lib. I straightaway copied libXpm.so.4.11 to my /usr/X11R6/lib directory, and ran ldconfig. My citrix program now runs normally but, alas!, after I logout xdm does not let me back in anymore. I can only log in as root, or else, use the character console... I have now withdrawn libXpm.so.4.11, so I can work normally. However I keep getting a message bash: fg: no job control every time I open a new xterm, or login to the console. I am very worried that I can't access that database, as I need to use it! Any hints, please... Alberto -- J. Alberto Lobo Departament de Fisica Fonamental Diagonal 647 08028 Barcelona, Spain Tel: +34 93402 1161 Fax: +34 93402 1149
pcmcia
debs, how do i get my pcmcia card bus to work on a new e-machine lapbox? here's the boot error message: starting pcmcia services: modules/lib/modules/2.0.36/pcmcia/tcic.0: init_module: device or resource busy i get a login prompt if i use a boot disk made from the rescue install disk. however, if i use a boot disk created by mkboot /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.36, i just get: lilo boot: loading linux error 0x04 boot: linux error 0x04... is this a separate problem? ia, t. -- Bentley Taylor __ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
UPS setup problems (apcuspd and genpower)
I recently purchased an APC Back-UPS Pro 650, but have been unable to get the UPS the daemons to interact with my system. The system is a Dell Workstation 410 Linux hilbert 2.2.13 #1 SMP Fri Mar 17 13:57:34 EST 2000 i686 unknown with a current potato configuration via a fresh potato install (gotta love the new ext2 fs and MD5 passwords!) The apcupsd is communicating well with the APC unit: /etc/apcuspd.status shows: APC : Mar 22 09:06:42 CABLE: APC Cable 940-0095A UPSMODEL : Back-UPS Pro 650 UPSMODE : Stand Alone UPSNAME : UPS_IDEN ULINE: 119.5 Volts MLINE: 119.5 Volts NLINE: 118.8 Volts FLINE: 60.0 Hz VOUTP: 119.5 Volts LOUTP: 049.4 Load Capacity BOUTP: 13.8 Volts BCHAR: 100.0 Batt. Charge TIME : 17.0 Minutes SENSE: HIGH WAKEUP : 000 Cycles SLEEP: 020 Cycles LOTRANS : 106.0 Volts HITRANS : 127.0 Volts CHARGE : 000.0 Percent BFAIL: 0x08 Status Flag ALARM: Always LASTEVNT : POWER FAILURE LOWBATT : 02 Minutes The apcupsd.conf is appended at the end. Despite having put an explicit TIMEOUT 300 in the configuration file, the machine stays up and the battery winds down. When the AC plug is pulled to test, the BFAIL tag changes to 0x10, the LASTEVENT is updated, the voltages go to zero and the battery charge diminishes. At *no* time are any messages printed to the terminal windows (to indicate power failure, warning logouts imminent, power resumed, etc). So I am rather confused. apcupsd collects valid data but /usr/sbin/powersc doesn't act on it. I have also tried genpower (/sbin/genpowerd /dev/ttyS0 apc-pnp) (which is the correct type for the APC Cable 940-0095A. The /etc/upsstatus *always* says OK even if the plug is pulled. Any suggestions would be most welcome. Thanks Tom ## apcupsd.conf v1.0 ## # # apcupsd POSIX config file # Updated for Debian/GNU Linux by Leon Breedt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) # CONTROL string CONTROL /usr/sbin/powersc # UPSCABLE [ simple | smart | #940-00(20B,23A,24B,24C,24G,95A,95C) | #940-15(24C) | #ether ] # UPSCABLE 940-0095A # UPSTYPE [ backups | sharebasic | netups | # backupspro | smartvsups | # newbackupspro | backupspropnp | # smartups | matrixups | sharesmart ] # UPSTYPE backupspropnp # UPSCLASS [ standalone | shareslave | sharemaster | netslave | netmaster ] UPSCLASS standalone # UPSMODE [ disable | share | net | sharenet ] UPSMODE disable #DEVICE string /dev/serial port DEVICE /dev/ttyS0 #LOCKFILE path to lockfile LOCKFILE /var/lock #ACCESS string [ true | false ] Enable Access Support ACCESS true # ANNOY int 30 0 disables ANNOY 30 # DELAY int 60 0 disables DELAY 60 # NOLOGON string [ disable | timeout | percent | minutes | always ] NOLOGON timeout # PROCFS int 120 0 disables update rate procfs-type of current statu s PROCFS 30 # LOGGING int 500 0 disables rate update log file of current status LOGGING 300 # TIMEOUT time is seconds to run on UPS, powerfails TIMEOUT 300 # BATTERYLEVEL precent of battery charge for shutdown 10 BATTERYLEVEL 10 # MINUTES time in minutes of remainning battery charge before shutdown 5 MINUTES 5 # SENSITIVITY char H,M,L default H SENSITIVITY H # WAKEUP int 0,60,180,300 Cycles default 0 WAKEUP 60 # SLEEP int 20,180,300,600 Cycles default 20 SLEEP 20 # LOTRANSFER int 0,1,2,3 default 2 LOTRANSFER 2 # HITRANSFER int 0,1,2,3 default 2 HITRANSFER 3 # RETURNCHARGE int 0,1,2,3 default 3 RETURNCHARGE 1 # BEEPSTATE char 0,T,L,N default 0 BEEPSTATE L # SELFTEST string 336,168,ON,OFF default 336 SELFTEST 336 # # UPSNAME string UPSNAME UPS_IDEN # REPLACE string date format mm/dd/yy #REPLACE 12/13/93 # BATTCMD string #BATTCMD # TIMECMD string #TIMECMD # LOADCMD string #LOADCMD # LIMITCMD string #LIMITCMD # PWRCMD string #PWRCMD # RETCMD string #RETCMD # REMOTECMD string #REMOTECMD # NETTIME int #NETTIME 100 # NETPORT int #NETPORT # MASTER string #MASTER # SLAVE string #SLAVE #SLAVE #SLAVE #SLAVE #SLAVE #SLAVE #SLAVE #SLAVE #SLAVE #SLAVE # USERMAGIC string #USERMAGIC # HTTPACCESS [ true | false ] enable web-interface - defaults to false #HTTPACCESS true # HTTPPORT port port to use for interface - defaults to 1999 #HTTPPORT 1999 -- Thomas R. Shemanske (Mailing Address) (Office/Internet Information) Department of Mathematics 203 Choate House 6188 Bradley Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dartmouth College http://www.math.dartmouth.edu/~trs/ Hanover, NH 03755-3551 (603) 646 - 3179 Directions: http://www.math.dartmouth.edu/~trs/choatehouse.html Office hours: http://www.math.dartmouth.edu/~trs/frontmatter/office.html Spring Term Office Hours: By appointment
kernel freezes while start-up
I ran into difficulties with installing Debian. When booting the last message I see is: md driver 0.36.6 MAX_MD_DEV=4 MAX_REAL=8 I understand that its not a Debian only issue as I was reading many posts from users of various distributions who were mainly Athlon users. The only hint they got was to use a newer kernel which is compatible with Athlon. Since I have a Celeron I don't think that would help. My configuration is the following: Celeron 400 VIa Apollo ProPlus 133 2.2.14 Kernel Where can I find a precompiled Kernel or a complete bootdisk which lacks this md driver 'feature'? Any help is greatly appreciated. Regards -Tamas
Re: Bash, Keys, Potato
On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 07:35:04AM -0300, Rodrigo Castro wrote: On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 11:12:37AM +0100, Martijn van de Streek wrote: Hi Rodrigo! On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Rodrigo Castro wrote: get the key displayed. It works as a dead key, waiting for any other key. When I do type other key, it beeps and I get no output on screen. I reinstalled bash, libncurses5, libc6 and already trying changing my keymap, but I wasn't sucessful. I am getting crazy. Did you look at your ~/.inputrc file? Yes. I even created a new user with no .inputrc and no $INPUTRC (no .bashrc, .bash_profile too). I don't know what kind of stuff could be in my files to screw up only letter E. The problem occurs in console and in xterm. :-( Have you tried a different keyboard It could always be a hardware problem. Stuart []'s -- Rodrigo Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Science undergraduate student - University of Sao Paulo I do not fear computers. I fear the lack of them. -- Isaac Asimov -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel freezes while start-up
I ran into difficulties with installing Debian. When booting the last message I see is: md driver 0.36.6 MAX_MD_DEV=4 MAX_REAL=8 [...] My configuration is the following: Celeron 400 VIa Apollo ProPlus 133 2.2.14 Kernel Where can I find a precompiled Kernel or a complete bootdisk which lacks this md driver 'feature'? if that would help: if you send me _exact_ info about the config you need, i will compile a kernel for you. -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- Linux - the last service pack you'll ever need.
Mounting the Swap partition
I recently checked my '/etc/fstab' and found that my swap drive does not mount at boot. When I check with 'df' I do not see it on the printout. I was wondering if I should ad this command in the '/etc/fstab': /dev/hda2 none swap sw Do you need to mount the swap partition? -- Dzuy M. Nguyen
Re: Bash, Keys, Potato
On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 02:38:58PM +, Stuart Auchterlonie wrote: On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 07:35:04AM -0300, Rodrigo Castro wrote: On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 11:12:37AM +0100, Martijn van de Streek wrote: Hi Rodrigo! On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Rodrigo Castro wrote: get the key displayed. It works as a dead key, waiting for any other key. When I do type other key, it beeps and I get no output on screen. I reinstalled bash, libncurses5, libc6 and already trying changing my keymap, but I wasn't sucessful. I am getting crazy. Did you look at your ~/.inputrc file? Yes. I even created a new user with no .inputrc and no $INPUTRC (no .bashrc, .bash_profile too). I don't know what kind of stuff could be in my files to screw up only letter E. The problem occurs in console and in xterm. :-( Have you tried a different keyboard It could always be a hardware problem. It works with ksh and csh, so it is not a keyboard problem. []'s -- Rodrigo Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Science undergraduate student - University of Sao Paulo I do not fear computers. I fear the lack of them. -- Isaac Asimov
Re: Mounting the Swap partition
I recently checked my '/etc/fstab' and found that my swap drive does not mount at boot. When I check with 'df' I do not see it on the printout. you will not see any swap partitions in a df dump - they are no mountable file systems. I was wondering if I should ad this command in the '/etc/fstab': /dev/hda2 none swap sw you have to. i don't know, what the 'sw' at the end of the line is, but it is basically right. Do you need to mount the swap partition? it is auto-mounted by swapon -a in one of the boot-scripts. -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! -- Linux - the last service pack you'll ever need.
Re: Mounting the Swap partition
On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 06:46:41AM -0800, Dzuy M. Nguyen wrote: I recently checked my '/etc/fstab' and found that my swap drive does not mount at boot. When I check with 'df' I do not see it on the printout. swap does not show up in df listings I was wondering if I should ad this command in the '/etc/fstab': /dev/hda2 none swap sw that does need to be in fstab for swap to be activated, but swap partitions are not `mounted' you also need to add a 0 0 to the end of that line like this: /dev/hda2 noneswapsw 0 0 Do you need to mount the swap partition? not like a filesystem no, but at boot swapon -a is run, which looks in /etc/fstab to see what swap partitions you have that should be activated, if none are found then swap is not activated and your swap partition is unused. you will not see swap anywhere in the filesystem however, and it is not shown in mount or df listings. it is however shown in `free' and `top' -- Dzuy M. Nguyen -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/
Re: Bash, Keys, Potato
Rodrigo Castro wrote: Did you look at your ~/.inputrc file? Yes. I even created a new user with no .inputrc and no $INPUTRC (no .bashrc, .bash_profile too). I don't know what kind of stuff could be in my files to screw up only letter E. The problem occurs in console and in xterm. :-( I vaguely remember having such problem some time ago, what I do not remember is the reason for that, only that it was very simple. Did you modified the /etc/inputrc or the /etc/profile files? Please post them, as well as ~/.inputrc if present, just to see if more info helps me or anybody else to remember. Regards, -- = Agustín Martín Domingo, Dpto. de Física, ETS Arquitectura Madrid, (U. Politécnica de Madrid) tel: +34 91-336-6536, Fax: +34 91-336-6554, email:[EMAIL PROTECTED], http://corbu.aq.upm.es/~agmartin/welcome.html
Re: Environment setting before gdm start
Eric G . Miller egm2@jps.net writes: /etc/profile is for Bash. I don't think gdm cares about that. But, in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf there is this parameter (which I have set to english): DefaultLocale=english Yes, I know (mine is set to german, but this one only set the locales for the GNOME applications, not for gdm itself). OK, I see, when logged in as root, bash sets the locale, then when I restart gdm, gdm gets the locale too. But the problem remains: how to set the locale before the login process starts gdm initially? Thanks anyway, joachim
Real Player 7
Hi, I Installed REalplayer 7 using the installer, and after that I was unable to start netscape anymore: only bus errors. So, I removed .netscape, .mime-types and .mailcap from my homedir, and netscape starts again. However, when I go to a site with real video, It sais I have no real player installed. When I look into the preferences, I don't see real player listed anywhere. What do I have to do to make this work? Isn't it the work of the rvplayer installer to add the right mime types and stuff like that? Wouter...
Re: Rename files
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Oswald Buddenhagen) wrote: On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 03:57:14PM +0100, Robert Kasunic wrote: I'm trying to rename a lot of files. I just want to substitute underlines with whitespaces. How can I do that? You might use mmv. If your files are: foo_bars then usemmv *_* '#1\ #2' (quotes required) uh ... i think, that the \ in '#1\ #2' should not be there. it's intended to quote the space, but as it is already quoted within ', it will be taken literally. True, but mmv seems to interpret it itself: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/test]$ touch foo_bar [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/test]$ mmv '*_*' '#1\ #2' [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/test]$ ls foo bar I'd have left out the \ myself, though, as it's potentially confusing; I think I'd also have used single quotes ('...') around the first argument because I wasn't intending to do any interpolation in it, but that's probably just me. With mmv you can also avoid some quoting issues by supplying arguments on standard input: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/test]$ touch foo_bar [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/test]$ mmv *_* #1\ #2 [press Ctrl-D] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/test]$ ls foo bar This way you don't have to quote asterisks, question marks, hashes, and the like, but you do still have to escape spaces in arguments with backslashes. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Environment setting before gdm start
Joachim, JT But the problem remains: how to set the locale before the login JT process starts gdm initially? Should it be line LC_LANG=someting in the /etc/environment ? -- Eugene Melekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Object Tools http://www.object-tools.com