Re: FreeWWWeb

[r3ck]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
>> I don't remember exactly what I did to get mine going, but I did wind up
> having to
>> use minicom to figure out what was happening. Then I think I had to make
> an entry in
>> pap-secrets for freewwweb (I can't currently access that box to look
> around at the
>> moment, so I'm having to do this by (poor) memory).
> Thanks, but I don't know minicom that good to use PAP scripts. I cannot just
> let it call the number, and I get a login screen, but that rejects
> everything I try. pap-secrets has an entry in it for freewwweb, but still it
> doesn't work.

I got my freewwweb account working using CHAP.  I only have this
for backup for my flakey @home account and haven't used it much
since I set it up.  @home went out the other night and I tried
it and it no longer accepts my login.  @home came back on before
I farted around with it too much so I'm not sure what changed.

I got signed off the deb-devel mailing list because of bounces
to my freewwweb mail account, and I can only pop home my mail
one time out of three (failed password) so I think they are
going through some problems.

Too bad because most of the other free services don't support
Linux -- you have to run Windows/Mac and put up with the
advertising bars.  Oh well.  Perhaps soon they'll get the
wrinkles out of broadband over power lines.

Re: apt-get and personal data

[Oki DZ]

On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, David Wright wrote:
> What I'm telling you is that that is not all right. I'm sure you'll
> be able to turn up references to our Data Protection Act (the old and
> the new) on the web. You may be surprised by them.

Does it mean that if I want to download software -- like Sybase or Oracle,
dev. version -- from the Internet in which I have to provide my personal
information on their websites, basically the procedure is unlawful. Or
there _is_ a difference between putting information on a website (via HTML
forms) and in a local file (?). Eventually the data will be put in the
websites, but according to the law, the second one is basically wrong.
Or it just means that the Europeans are just weird (this would be
surprising for me, indeed).

Oki

how to build deb

[indra wardhana]

how to build debian package (*.bed) from source code programs (*.tar.gz)

Netscape 4.5 refuses to work!!

[José María Pongilioni López]

Hi! I have installed Debian 'slink' distribution, 
with kernel 2.2.5, XFree86 3.3.6
(special for 'slink'), KDE 1.1.2 (default window 
manager) and Netscape 4.5 for
'slink'.
When I'm browsing for a long time (about 2 hours), 
the browser refuses to work:
I write an address in the URL bar, but this it's 
ignored: a blank page is displayed.
I have increased the swap partition up to 32 MB 
(formerly it was 16 MB) and the
problem persists.
I use the 'kppp' program (of KDE) to establish an 
Internet connection and launch Netscape.
What's wrong?Also, How I can install Netscape 
4.72 (without upgrading to 'potato')?
Can I install Netscape 4.72 from 'potato', 
installing libc6 2.1 only in 'slink'?
Please, send your reply at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
Thanks very much in 
advance!!

Netscape 4.5 refuses to work!!

[José María Pongilioni López]

Hi! I have installed Debian 'slink' distribution, 
with kernel 2.2.5, XFree86 3.3.6
(special for 'slink'), KDE 1.1.2 (default window 
manager) and Netscape 4.5 for
'slink'.
When I'm browsing for a long time (about 2 hours), 
the browser refuses to work:
I write an address in the URL bar, but this it's 
ignored: a blank page is displayed.
I have increased the swap partition up to 32 MB 
(formerly it was 16 MB) and the
problem persists.
I use the 'kppp' program (of KDE) to establish an 
Internet connection and launch Netscape.
What's wrong?Also, How I can install Netscape 
4.72 (without upgrading to 'potato')?
Can I install Netscape 4.72 from 'potato', 
installing libc6 2.1 only in 'slink'?
Please, send your reply at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
Thanks very much in 
advance!!

Re: clone a debian installation

[Syd Alsobrook]

I have done this many times, the route I take is:

"dpkg --get-selections > packages.dpkg" on master machine
"dpkg --set-selections < packages.dpkg" on new machine

remember to move the packages file to the new machine.

Syd

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 13:30
Subject: clone a debian installation


Dear list,

at our Company we've set up a debian box (slink) to provide several
services to the LAN. During a period of trial and error we ran dselect
a couple of times installing and purging packages from the stable
Debian archive.Now we plan to keep another machine with the
same installations in the back in case of hardware failure.

For some reasons we declined copying directory trees or ,even
more low-level, partition images.
We'd like to provide the Debian install media (NFS, ftp, cdrom)
somewhere and use dpkg or dselect to create an installation
with the same packages as on the orig machine.
(So that ,say, "dpkg --list" would produce the same output on the
machines.)
Is there a way to do this in an _automated_ (prefereably
unattended) way ?

Greetings, Markus


Markus Stausberg
InfoLytics AG
Marktstrasse 8
50968 Koeln
Germany

Tel.:(+49) (0)221 3405846


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Re: Mutt questions (Was: Looking for a good mail program)

[Viktor Rosenfeld]

Peter Palfrader wrote:
> Fetchmail fetches the mails from the imap|pop3 server and hands it on
> to your MTA (exim or sendmail or such).
> 
> Your MTA will put the mail into your mailbox or, if configured right
> hand each mail over to procmail which will sort the mails into one or
> more folders (or do other interesting stuff with them).
> 
> Your MUA will just read the mails (and then move them around again if
> you want :)

This explanation puts a lot of emphasis on what I've just said: I got a
lot of reading to do.  :)

Anyway, thanks for the clarification.

MfG Viktor
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Re: Mutt questions (Was: Looking for a good mail program)

[Peter Palfrader]

Hallo Viktor!

Viktor Rosenfeld schrieb am Samstag, dem 08. April 2000:

> Brendan Cully wrote:
> > > - Can Mutt automatically move incoming mail into different folders?
> > 
> > sort of. usually that's done with procmail. but you could probably use
> > the "push" command and folder hooks to move things when you open your
> > spool. I personally use procmail on my IMAP server.
> 
> Ahh, this I don't quite understand.  I always donwloaded my mail from a
> POP3 server, and then had Netscape sort it into various inboxes.
> 
> I thought, that I would now use fetchmail to get my mail from the POP3
> server (actually from more than one) and have it all appended to my
> mailbox in /var/spool/mail and the MUA would then process it
> appropriatly.  So where does procmail come into the game?

Fetchmail fetches the mails from the imap|pop3 server and hands it on
to your MTA (exim or sendmail or such). 

Your MTA will put the mail into your mailbox or, if configured right
hand each mail over to procmail which will sort the mails into one or
more folders (or do other interesting stuff with them).

Your MUA will just read the mails (and then move them around again if
you want :)

yours,
peter
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Re: Connecting to the internet Problems

[John Hasler]

James Nelson writes:
> Are there any debian specific instructions out there to explain how to
> connect to your isp.

Yes: the man pages for pon, poff, and pppconfig.

Post your /etc/chatscripts/provider and /etc/ppp/peers/provider files
(remove passwords) and the output of the 'plog' command.  You haven't given
us enough information to help you.  We need to know *exactly* what you did
and *exactly* what happened.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI

Re: modules

[Viktor Rosenfeld]

Chanop Silpa-Anan wrote:
> 
> Once upon a time, I heard Viktor Rosenfeld say
> 
> > (**) I never understood why "dpkg -i" bitches about the fact that you
> > install the same kernel version as the currently running kernel.  It
> > justifies it with possible confusion in /lib/modules/, but
> > that's what I don't get.  Newly compiled modules will overwrite the old,
> > and older kernel modules should still load perfectly, because they're
> > for the same kernel-version.  What's the big deal then?
> Let's say you turn off apm, and remove some modules. If your old module with
> apm get loaded, ummm, I don't what's going to happen. May be nothing serious
> would happen.

I've never tried it before (and I am to lazy to compile a new kernel,
just to try it out), but I think modprobe/insmod would complain about
unresolved references and ... and that would be it.

MfG Viktor
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Re: modules

[Viktor Rosenfeld]

Brad wrote:
> > 3. Never used "make-kpkg modules_image".  In fact the modules are
> > included in the kernel image and will be installed into the correct
> > directory.  (**)
> 
> Modules like pcmcia, alsa, etc.

Didn't know that.

> > 4. I think, it should be "dpkg -i kernel_image-*
> 
> Haven't done this in a while? ;)

While I was referring to "dpkg -i kernel-SOURCE-*" in the original post,
I got confused with the underscore.

> > (*) So the package management knows that kernel_image is the package
> > name.  Hyphems are not permitted in a package name.
> 
> Hmmm... then there are a LOT of packages that have non-permitted names.
> Do a "dlocate -l -" or "dpkg -l \*-\*" sometime.
>
> Actually, i think underscores aren't allowed in package names, because
> the naming convention uses an underscore character to separate the
> package name from the version.

To sum it all up: You got me big time!  :)

I was writing from the top of my head, and it looks like my memory
played some dirty tricks on me.  I confused that with the rule, that
only alphanumerics and "+" and "." are allowed in the revision number.

Anyway, thanks for clearing up my mind.

MfG Viktor
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E-Mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Mutt questions (Was: Looking for a good mail program)

[Viktor Rosenfeld]

Richard Taylor wrote:
> 
> On 4/6/2000, 7:31:18 PM, Chanop Silpa-Anan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote
> > Once upon a time, I heard Viktor Rosenfeld say
> 
> > > I recently switched my working environment from Windows to Debian only
> > > and I've been using Netscape Mail so far.  And I *hate* it!
> 
> >   Me too, it's too slow!
> 
> :} Tried 6?

Arrgg!  Don't even get me started.  It's dog slow and -- excuse me --
the default skin looks like shit!  Can't wait to get my hands on M15
though, I've been following the Milestone releases ever since 9 and I am
*impressed* by the way they've come.  It does only get better.

MfG Viktor
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E-Mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Mutt questions (Was: Looking for a good mail program)

[Viktor Rosenfeld]

Brendan Cully wrote:
> > - Can Mutt automatically move incoming mail into different folders?
> 
> sort of. usually that's done with procmail. but you could probably use
> the "push" command and folder hooks to move things when you open your
> spool. I personally use procmail on my IMAP server.

Ahh, this I don't quite understand.  I always donwloaded my mail from a
POP3 server, and then had Netscape sort it into various inboxes.

I thought, that I would now use fetchmail to get my mail from the POP3
server (actually from more than one) and have it all appended to my
mailbox in /var/spool/mail and the MUA would then process it
appropriatly.  So where does procmail come into the game?

I guess, I should go read the Networking-Overview-HOWTO and the
Mail-HOWTO, but I still have those various LDP guides on my agenda.  :(  

MfG Viktor
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E-Mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Porting YTalk to Windows

[LiveHelpOnline.com]

Hello
 
I am interested in porting YTalk to Windows. This has probably 
been done before. Do you know where I can find information about 
this.
 
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968-9862

Re: FreeWWWeb

[Bart Friederichs]

> I don't remember exactly what I did to get mine going, but I did wind up
having to
> use minicom to figure out what was happening. Then I think I had to make
an entry in
> pap-secrets for freewwweb (I can't currently access that box to look
around at the
> moment, so I'm having to do this by (poor) memory).
Thanks, but I don't know minicom that good to use PAP scripts. I cannot just
let it call the number, and I get a login screen, but that rejects
everything I try. pap-secrets has an entry in it for freewwweb, but still it
doesn't work.

Bart

PS
i am considering paid internet. maybe they can connect me 

Connecting to the internet Problems

[James Nelson]

Are there any debian specific instructions out there to explain how to
connect to your isp. I have tried using pon,poff,wvdial.nothing works. I
always get a message that says (after it dials) no host found, and then it
will redial. I know i'm calling the right number I can hear it trying to
connect and then I get an error and it calls again. Help





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Re: ssh loading at startup

[Adam Shand]

> The usual way to run sshd is via inetd, though.  So maybe Beavis is
> asking the wrong question, maybe ssh into his box already works without
> any additional effort.  If not, look in /etc/inetd.conf for a line
> mentioning ssh, perhaps there's something wrong with it.

err, not true.  and unless you have a very unusual setup you probably don't
want to run ssh from inetd.conf.  because everytime it starts it has to
generate the session keys it can be quite slow to start if it has to fork
from inetd.

see the man page for details:

   -i Specifies  that sshd is being run from inetd.  Sshd
  is normally not run from inetd because it needs  to
  generate  the  server  key before it can respond to
  the client, and this  may  take  tens  of  seconds.
  Clients  would have to wait too long if the key was
  regenerated every time.  However,  with  small  key
  sizes (e.g.  512) using sshd from inetd may be fea
  sible.

adam.

Booting trouble.

[Hans]

I installed potato (hda6) today next to slink (hda8). I installed lilo in
the mbr when installing potato. I added the slink entry to /etc/lilo.conf.
Now when I get the lilo-prompt I can boot potato (boots fine) and slink
(trouble).

First, slink goes to runlevel 2 and gives this daemon error:

'syslogd syslogd: cannont create /dev/log: Invalid argument
klogd'

Then I get to tty1 and up comes:

'INIT: Id "T3" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes'

I can log in alright, but still. Before I mess it up even more, I want
to ask you guys what is going on with my slink system and maybe ways to fix
this. Thanks and have a nice weekend. --hans

Multilink PPP

[Tom Warfield]

Alright I know that its out there.  I just have to find it. I tried
Freshmeat but didnt see it there even though someone i know picked it up
like two months ago from thereunfortuanely he didnt bookmark it so know
i have no idea where to find it even though i need to get it for a project
out there.

For those of you wondering what Multilink PPP is:
It's a way of bonding 2 or more serial PPP connections for more speed.
Currently, Microsoft products have support for MPP in the dialer. Linux has
it in the kernel, but for ISDN, not analog modems.

That came from the friend who use ot know where it was at.

Anyone have any ideas or know where i can find it at?

Thanks,

Tom W.

Re: no wonder...

[Richard Taylor]

On 4/7/2000, 1:41:56 PM, Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding Re: no 
wonder...:
> Richard Taylor wrote:
> > On 4/6/2000, 9:03:41 PM, Oki DZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding Re:
> > > On 5 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > > > No wonder people say that Debian is the most difficult
> > > > Unix-clone distro to install and use...
> > > ...
> > > > Another thing, is the dselect program: it is quite
> > > > difficult to use...
> >  As compared to something like... say... notepad?
> >  What's difficult about selecting things from a menu?

> 1. Nothing's difficult about selecting things from a menu. It's when 
those selections
> bring up other screens wanting to add/delete other things, which affect 
other things,
> which makes the user want to get out, and none of the keystrokes seem to 
work like a
> beginner (not someone who has read the docs and EXPERIENCED the 
experience) would
> expect. There's just a host of things that are difficult about deselect 
and apt.

 My mileage varies. I find that the program simplifies what can be a 
vastly more difficult process... that of tracking dependencies, versions, 
file locations, etc, etc... It does it
fairly well and it does it accurately.

 The docs are readily available... the explanations of what, why and so 
forth in regards to the files your working with are fairly clear... the 
program itself is pretty simple and requires you to use maybe a half 
dozen commands in normal use. It does everything for you. If there's any 
part of Debian I'd target as being difficult it certainly wouldn't be 
dselect. Personally, I think it's one of the best things the 
distribution's got going for it.

> There's a host of good about these products also; they're just not 
intuitive for the
> non-initiated.

 What could be more intuitive?

Re: ssh loading at startup

[Brad]

On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 11:03:47AM -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote:
> 
> The usual way to run sshd is via inetd, though.  So maybe Beavis is
> asking the wrong question, maybe ssh into his box already works
> without any additional effort.  If not, look in /etc/inetd.conf for a
> line mentioning ssh, perhaps there's something wrong with it.

Read the sshd manpage, in particular the section about the -i option,
for an explanation of why sshd is notmally not run from inetd.


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Re: modules

[Brad]

On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 07:08:25PM +0200, Viktor Rosenfeld wrote:
> 
> 2. I think, it should be "make-kpkg kernel_image" (with an underscore
> and not a hyphem)  (*).

Either one works, they're both in the rules file for the same rule.

> 3. Never used "make-kpkg modules_image".  In fact the modules are
> included in the kernel image and will be installed into the correct
> directory.  (**)

Modules like pcmcia, alsa, etc.

> 4. I think, it should be "dpkg -i kernel_image-*

Haven't done this in a while? ;)

The last kernel image deb i made ended up being named
kernel-image-2.2.14_2.2.14-anomie.1_i386.deb

(i used "make-kpkg --rev 2.2.14-anomie.1 kernel-image" to create it)

> (*) So the package management knows that kernel_image is the package
> name.  Hyphems are not permitted in a package name.

Hmmm... then there are a LOT of packages that have non-permitted names.
Do a "dlocate -l -" or "dpkg -l \*-\*" sometime.

Actually, i think underscores aren't allowed in package names, because
the naming convention uses an underscore character to separate the
package name from the version.


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PPP server glitch

[Danny Heap]

I'm trying to set up one of our lab machines as a PPP server.  I've
successfully gotten to the point where a serial connection is
established and ip numbers are established.  However, I am unable to
ping the server host from my home machine.  I suspect a routing
problem, but the routing table on the client looks okay (there is a
default route to ppp0).  I don't know how to check what is happening
to the ping packets, since they appear to be transmitted. 

One possible bit of complexity is that the server machine has two
ethernet interfaces and does ip-masquerading for a small subnet.

Also, I can't seem to remove the arp table entry for the ppp
interface:
---

laplace:/etc/ppp# arp -d euler.statmech
SIOCDARP(pub): No such file or directory


euler.statmech (192.168.1.3) at * PERM PUP on eth0
euler.statmech (192.168.1.3) at * PERM PUP on eth1


Here are some of the specifics:
-
I have dpkg package ppp version 2.3.5-2, and have compiled ppp support
into the kernel 2.2.10 (not as a module).

The ppp user runs this shell:


mesg n
stty -echo
exec /usr/sbin/pppd  -detach silent modem crtscts debug\
local-ip:remote-ip
---

Our ppp options are:


asyncmap 0
auth
crtscts
lock
modem
netmask 255.255.255.0
kdebug 3
lcp-echo-interval 30
lcp-echo-failure 4
noipx
-


Here's a bit of ppp.log:

Apr  7 11:54:23 laplace pppd[15380]: pppd 2.3.5 started by pppclient,
uid 1005
Apr  7 11:54:23 laplace pppd[15380]: Using interface ppp0
Apr  7 11:54:23 laplace pppd[15380]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1
Apr  7 11:54:24 laplace pppd[15380]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1
   ]
Apr  7 11:54:24 laplace pppd[15380]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1
]
Apr  7 11:54:24 laplace pppd[15380]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x1
   ]
Apr  7 11:54:24 laplace pppd[15380]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1
]
Apr  7 11:54:24 laplace pppd[15380]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0
magic=0x756b4adf]
Apr  7 11:54:24 laplace pppd[15380]: rcvd [LCP EchoReq id=0x0
magic=0x7500209d]
Apr  7 11:54:24 laplace pppd[15380]: sent [LCP EchoRep id=0x0
magic=0x756b4adf]
Apr  7 11:54:24 laplace pppd[15380]: rcvd [PAP AuthReq id=0x1
user="pppclient" \
password=""]
Apr  7 11:54:25 laplace pppd[15380]: sent [PAP AuthAck id=0x1 "Login
ok"]
Apr  7 11:54:25 laplace pppd[15380]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1  ]
Apr  7 11:54:25 laplace pppd[15380]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0
magic=0x7500209d]
Apr  7 11:54:25 laplace pppd[15380]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1  <\
compress VJ 0f 01>]
Apr  7 11:54:25 laplace pppd[15380]: sent [IPCP ConfNak id=0x1 ]
Apr  7 11:54:25 laplace pppd[15380]: rcvd [IPCP ConfAck id=0x1  ]
Apr  7 11:54:25 laplace pppd[15380]: sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0x2  ]
Apr  7 11:54:25 laplace pppd[15380]: local  IP address 192.168.1.1
Apr  7 11:54:25 laplace pppd[15380]: remote IP address 192.168.1.3
Apr  7 11:54:54 laplace pppd[15380]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x1
magic=0x756b4adf]


--
Thanks for any help

Danny Heap
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ssh loading at startup

[Colin Watson]

Ian Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> "Ron" == Ron Rademaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>Ron> /etc/init.d/ is where you have to put the script
>Ron> /etc/rc[RUNLEVEL].d is where you have to put symlinks to this
>Ron> script
>
>The usual way to run sshd is via inetd, though.

Is it? The Debian package seems to use /etc/init.d.

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RE: Creative SB Live! 1024

[Christian Pernegger]

> -Original Message-
> From: Joachim Trinkwitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 12:21 PM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Creative SB Live! 1024
>
>
> As I wrote in my initial posting, the card is working (it only doesn't
> work with esound), and yes, I did all those things you recommend.
>
> The question is why I don't have the modversion.h, which the compiler
> can't find.

I understand you want to use esound-alsa with a self-compiled alsa. So do
I. I didn't get any of the Debian package tools to ignore the dependencies
on the precompiled alsa debs either...

However, as of today, my sound works in gnome with just esound installed
and the oss-compatibility modules (snd-pcm-oss, snd-mixer-oss) inserted.
Try upgrading to alsa 0.5.7

Christian



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Info and Emacs

[Marshal Kar-Cheung Wong]

My name is Marshal and I'm a Emacs user...And I have No Regrets! :)

In any case, to the point.

I was wondering why there are differences in the info from the
command-line and the info in Emacs (C-h i).  The command-line info
seems more complete.  I can't seem to find the info customizations on
Emacs that would allow me the possibly change this.  If anyone has any
clues, I'd appreciate it.  Thanks.

Marshal

Re: text editor for the rest of us

[Christian Surchi]

On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 12:01:45AM +0900, Julian Stoev wrote:

> Pico can be rebuilt from pine396-src
> But there is somthing better - nano. It is a pico clone. Available in 
> woody/potato 
> You may try also ee. I am writing this from ee now.

You can also use jpico, it's joe with pico keys and something more. :)
Install joe packages and you have joe, jpico, jstar and jmacs.

bye

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Re: No masquerading in stock kernel-image?

[Joe Emenaker]

> On advice of not-so-newbies, I proceeded to custom-compile a version of
> that kernel, and got Masquerading operational.  Now, with the recent
> kernel upgrade that's become available in the past week, Masquerading
> is still working, for me -- so, either the latest kernel has it
> switched 'on' by default, or the configuration files on my machine after
> the custom-compile had a beneficent effect. :-)  Dunno which.

I can almost guarantee you that the new kernel didn't "inherit" any
masquerading-ness from your custom kernel (since the primary masquerading
code can't be a module, I don't think).

Are you sure that you've *booted* the new stock kernel and not just been
booting your old home-brewed one?

- Joe

Re: kernel can't find more than 64 Mb memory

[Ralf G. R. Bergs]

On Fri, 7 Apr 2000 19:37:09 +0400, jOkEr wrote:

> i think soft is the problem.

Me thinks that's right. :-)

Inset the following line into /etc/lilo.conf

  append="mem=192M"

execute

#lilo

and reboot.


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Re: kernel can't find more than 64 Mb memory

[Oswald Buddenhagen]

>  I have had a workstation with 64Mb memory and installed Debian/2.0.38
>  kernel. Later I've inserted 128Mb DIMM (196Mb total). However kernel always
>  "finds" 64Mb and no more. Same situation with 2.2.14.
> 
add
append="mem=196M"
to your lilo conf. this should help.

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Re: No masquerading in stock kernel-image?

[Jeff Gordon]

On Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 12:32:03PM -0700, Joe Emenaker wrote:

> Forgive me if this is a faq
> 
> It seems like masquerading is not turned on in the stock kernel-image
> packages. Is this true or am I forgetting to load a module somewhere? If
> it's true, does anybody know why that decision was made?

I have no clear answer for you, Joe, but something similar happened for
me, and other debian-user folks seemed puzzled about it at the time. 
I'm wondering now if this might be an effect of having a prior
configuration file on the premises when installing a new kernel. (?)

Because of a variety of problems I had during install, I ended up
booting from a hard disk I'd installed 'slink' on almost a year ago --
and the next thing I knew, I had the version of 'potato' that was
current in early March telling me "IP Masquerading is not enabled in
the kernel."

On advice of not-so-newbies, I proceeded to custom-compile a version of
that kernel, and got Masquerading operational.  Now, with the recent
kernel upgrade that's become available in the past week, Masquerading
is still working, for me -- so, either the latest kernel has it
switched 'on' by default, or the configuration files on my machine after
the custom-compile had a beneficent effect. :-)  Dunno which.

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kernel troubles

[Ernest Johanson]

I am setting up a Dell PowerEdge 1300, PIII/500 machine for a server. It
has an AIC 7890 SCSI controller, 512M of memory. When I complile a 2.2.12
kernel, I get 

LILO Loading Linux
Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel. 

And there it stops. It boots fine off of a 2.0.38 kernel from the install
disks. I started with slink off a CD, and upgraded to frozen (of 4/6/00).
I don't think this is a lilo problem, but wonder if there is something
going on with the compiling of the kernel. No modules, compiled as 686, 
bzImage. Any ideas? 



Ernest Johanson
Web Systems Administrator
Fuller Theological Seminary

Re: no wonder...

[Kent West]

Richard Taylor wrote:

> On 4/6/2000, 9:03:41 PM, Oki DZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding Re:
> no
> > On 5 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > > No wonder people say that Debian is the most difficult
> > > Unix-clone distro to install and use...
> > ...
> > > Another thing, is the dselect program: it is quite
> > > difficult to use...
>
>  As compared to something like... say... notepad?
>
>  What's difficult about selecting things from a menu?

I really shouldn't add to the noise on this thread, but I'm going to anyway.

1. Nothing's difficult about selecting things from a menu. It's when those 
selections
bring up other screens wanting to add/delete other things, which affect other 
things,
which makes the user want to get out, and none of the keystrokes seem to work 
like a
beginner (not someone who has read the docs and EXPERIENCED the experience) 
would
expect. There's just a host of things that are difficult about deselect and apt.
There's a host of good about these products also; they're just not intuitive 
for the
non-initiated.

2. Would the list members please stop ragging on newbies just because the newbie
expresses some frustration at not knowing how to accomplish something? It's not 
that
the question "What's difficult about selecting things from a menu" (and other
questions/comments I've seen on this thread) is a rude question per se, but 
without
the visual/audio cues that are part of face-to-face communications, the intent 
behind
some of these questions/comments sound more like "You're an idiot if you can't 
do
something simple like running dselect."

Sorry if I've come across in an offensive manner; I don't mean to.

Re: Wordperfect for Linux

[Erik Ryberg]

> Sandy Shapiro wrote:
>
> > I have Debian 2.1 (Slink).
> >
> > I downloaded Wordperfect 8 for Linux (guilg00.gz).
> >
> > During the install I get numerous error messages. It seems to be looking
> > for subdirectories that don't exist on my system, and the program won't
> > run.
> >
> > Will Wordperfect only work on the Corel Linux, or is there a way to get it
> > to work on Debian?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Sandy Shapiro
> >

Sandy,

You need to load xpm4 & libc6 first, then install wp and it should work.  Runs 
fine on
Debian.

Erik Ryberg

kernel can't find more than 64 Mb memory

[jOkEr]

 Hello.

 I have had a workstation with 64Mb memory and installed Debian/2.0.38
 kernel. Later I've inserted 128Mb DIMM (196Mb total). However kernel always
 "finds" 64Mb and no more. Same situation with 2.2.14.

 BIOS memory test - 100Mhz - 196 Mb OK.
 Windows 98 SE memory test - 100 Mhz - 196 Mb OK.
 BIOS memory test - 66Mhz - 196 Mb OK.
 Windows 98 SE memory test - 66 Mhz - 196 Mb OK.
 DIMM is HY, PC-133, 7.5 ns, even was tested with iP III 550e up 7xx
Mhz...So
 i think soft is the problem.

 Thanx.

 AlekS.

Fw: siocsifflags

[jOkEr]

 Hello.

 Same situation:
 i have Celeron workstation with 2 eth cards: old ISA D-Link-250CT and DEC
 Tulip 21140-AC. All works fine with kernel 2.0.38 but after compiling,
 installing and booting 2.2.14 i always get "SIOCSIFFLAGS: resource
 temporarily unavailable" for every line with route add command in
 /etc/init.d/network script.


 - Original Message -
> From: Pontus Lidman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: David Gisborne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: 
> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 6:50 PM
> Subject: Re: siocsifflags
>
>
> >
> > On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, David Gisborne wrote:
> >
> > > I installed debian 2.2.13 and am running a etherlink 3c509b card.
> > >
> > > The 3c509 modules seems to be loading correctly because I can do an
> > >
> > > ifconfig eth0 but when I enter
> > >
> > > ifconfig eth0 up
> > >
> > > it says "SIOCSIFFLAGS: resource temporarily unavailable"
> > >
> > > I am assuming this is because it isn't probing for my isa card
correctly
> > > and I must do an alias with options but what is the best way to find
out
> > > the hardware address and irq of this card. I don't know what they are.
> >
> > You must download the 3c509b setup disk from 3com's web page and use the
> > setup utility to configure the irq and io-ports of the card. Last time I
> > checked it was only available for MS-DOS :(
> >
> > The other way to do it is to try each irq and io address in turn until
it
> > happens to work. You can get some hints by looking at /proc/interrupts
and
> > /proc/ioports to see which are currently busy. But of course it's best
to
> > know and control which resources are used by your card.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Pontus
> >
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Re: ssh loading at startup

[Ian Zimmerman]

> "Ron" == Ron Rademaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Ron> /etc/init.d/ is where you have to put the script
Ron> /etc/rc[RUNLEVEL].d is where you have to put symlinks to this
Ron> script

The usual way to run sshd is via inetd, though.  So maybe Beavis is
asking the wrong question, maybe ssh into his box already works
without any additional effort.  If not, look in /etc/inetd.conf for a
line mentioning ssh, perhaps there's something wrong with it.

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2325 3rd Street #324, San Francisco, California 94107

/etc/gateways

[Kent Nyberg]

I just found the file "/etc/gateways" in my debian slink system.
What is that file for?
Im just a Linux beginner.. but shouldn't gateways be configured
with the command "route add default gw ..."  ??

Re: Wordperfect for Linux

[pplaw]

hi,

i've had no problem with wordperfect suite 8 on several of my debian linux, 
"slink"
installs.

what are the error messages you get?

bentley taylor
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sandy Shapiro wrote:

> I have Debian 2.1 (Slink).
>
> I downloaded Wordperfect 8 for Linux (guilg00.gz).
>
> During the install I get numerous error messages. It seems to be looking
> for subdirectories that don't exist on my system, and the program won't
> run.
>
> Will Wordperfect only work on the Corel Linux, or is there a way to get it
> to work on Debian?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sandy Shapiro
>
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Ted RTF editor

[Davina Armstrong]

Do any of you use Ted, the RTF editor?  I'm researching using it as a
basis for a project, and I'm interested in any feedback you might have.
As I do not subscribe to this mailing list, please cc: me on your
responses.

Thanks!
Davina

Re: System Clock

[sam]

Edit /etc/default/rcS

In the line that says GMT make sure its GMT="" and not GMT"-u"

After fixing that run /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh start

I had the same problem. 

~Sam

On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Doug Bean << Mr Bean's Internet >> wrote:

> I have a small problem with the way my system clocks are setup. What I am
> trying to do is sync my local time and UTC so they are the same. At the
> moment they seem to be 10 hours apart. I have tried tzconfig but that does
> not ask if i want my system clock and hwclock to be in sync or not to refer
> to the UTC at all.
> 
> To make things a bit easier to understand I need to set my clocks up as if
> it were a dual boot machine where the local time does not refer to UTC at
> all.
> Surely I don't have to rebuild the server.
> Regards,
> Doug Bean
> Mr Bean's Internet
> 
> 
> 

Re: modules

[Chanop Silpa-Anan]

Once upon a time, I heard Viktor Rosenfeld say

> (**) I never understood why "dpkg -i" bitches about the fact that you
> install the same kernel version as the currently running kernel.  It
> justifies it with possible confusion in /lib/modules/, but
> that's what I don't get.  Newly compiled modules will overwrite the old,
> and older kernel modules should still load perfectly, because they're
> for the same kernel-version.  What's the big deal then?
Let's say you turn off apm, and remove some modules. If your old module with
apm get loaded, ummm, I don't what's going to happen. May be nothing serious
would happen.

Chanop

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clone a debian installation

[markus]

Dear list,

at our Company we've set up a debian box (slink) to provide several
services to the LAN. During a period of trial and error we ran dselect
a couple of times installing and purging packages from the stable 
Debian archive.Now we plan to keep another machine with the 
same installations in the back in case of hardware failure.

For some reasons we declined copying directory trees or ,even 
more low-level, partition images.
We'd like to provide the Debian install media (NFS, ftp, cdrom) 
somewhere and use dpkg or dselect to create an installation
with the same packages as on the orig machine.
(So that ,say, "dpkg --list" would produce the same output on the 
machines.)
Is there a way to do this in an _automated_ (prefereably 
unattended) way ?

Greetings, Markus 
 
 
Markus Stausberg
InfoLytics AG
Marktstrasse 8
50968 Koeln
Germany

Tel.:(+49) (0)221 3405846

Re: modules

[Viktor Rosenfeld]

Marcin Kurc wrote:

> 2. debian specific
> make menuconfig
> make dep
> make-kpkg clean
> make-kpkg kernel-image
> make-kpkg modules-image
> cd..
> dpkg -i kernel-source-2.2.14_i386.deb

1. "make dep" is not necessary, that's done by make_kpkg.
2. I think, it should be "make-kpkg kernel_image" (with an underscore
and not a hyphem)  (*).
3. Never used "make-kpkg modules_image".  In fact the modules are
included in the kernel image and will be installed into the correct
directory.  (**)
4. I think, it should be "dpkg -i kernel_image-*

(*) So the package management knows that kernel_image is the package
name.  Hyphems are not permitted in a package name.

(**) I never understood why "dpkg -i" bitches about the fact that you
install the same kernel version as the currently running kernel.  It
justifies it with possible confusion in /lib/modules/, but
that's what I don't get.  Newly compiled modules will overwrite the old,
and older kernel modules should still load perfectly, because they're
for the same kernel-version.  What's the big deal then?

MfG Viktor

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Re: Speed restriction

[Grendel]

** On Apr 07, The_Phantom 74 scribbled:
> Hi
> 
> I would like to set up a router or something using ethernet to connect two 
> LANs but be able to restrict the bandwidth to 512kb/s so it behaves like a 
> leased line...and easier to charge for.
> 
> Any suggestions??
Yup. iproute2 package (you've got it in Debian) plus iptools (also there).
You have to compile in the QoS support into your Linux kernel (2.2.x or
above) - CBQ, SFQ/RED/TBF, the U32 classifier and with these you'll be able to 
nicely shape the traffic. Also, go to:

http://snafu.freedom.org/linux2.2/
http://www.ds9a.nl/2.4Routing/

These will give you a good start on the topic. After that (hmm... or better
before :) - read the TeX documentation from the sources of the iproute2
package.
Once you become familiar with the above, I suggest you take a look at
http://netfilter.kernelnotes.org/ and read about the next generation of
filters for Linux - it will come to you in 2.4, so you better start getting
acquainted with it - it has also a bit to do with trafic shaping and QoS.

good luck,
marek


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Re: .signature and random fortune ?

[Bob Hilliard]

Tolga KILICLI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
> 
> Hi,
> Do you know how to add random fortunes to the .signature file. (each mail
> with different .signature ?)
> 

 One of the following packages may answer your needs:

Package: signify
Version: 1.06-1
Priority: optional
Section: mail
Maintainer: Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Depends: perl5
Architecture: all
Filename: dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/mail/signify_1.06-1.deb
Size: 13518
MD5sum: affa7df0e5fe12f3d80eca7f2db57ce7
Description: Automatic, semi-random ".signature" rotator/generator
 Signify is a neat little program that allows a random signature to be
 generated from a set of rules.  Each "section" can be one of an unlimited
 number of possibilities, each with its own weighting so those really cool
 quotes can appear more often than others.  Sections can also be placed next
 to each other vertically to create columns.  Each section can be formatted
 independently as left/right/center and top/bottom/vcenter.
installed-size: 38

Package: sigrot
Version: 1.1-2
Priority: optional
Section: mail
Maintainer: Christopher J. Morrone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Depends: libc6
Architecture: i386
Filename: dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/mail/sigrot_1.1-2.deb
Size: 6604
MD5sum: 39883546ff3df1409f6a8386ffd3ddaf
Description: Signature file rotation program.
 Rotates your signature file every time the sigrot is run. Includes an
 option for a non-rotating header and/or footer with a rotating middle.
installed-size: 21

Bob
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Re: .signature and random fortune ?

[Robert Waldner]

have a look at sigrot, afair it's avalaible debianized.

hth,
&rw

On Fri, 07 Apr 2000 15:05:02 +0300, Tolga KILICLI writes:
>
>Hi,
>Do you know how to add random fortunes to the .signature file. (each mail
>with different .signature ?)


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Re: Unknown problem connecting

[J. Hartzelbuck]

This is very complete! Thanks.

I should have called this off earlier, however; I sent a messge that apparently 
went
to the writer only, not to the list. I did not have /etc/resolv.conf set right,
although I _thought_  I did! So thanks everyone!

Chris Joyner

Jeff Gordon wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 07:11:16AM -0400, J. Hartzelbuck wrote:
>
> > Using Debian, I've installed wvdial and can connect very nicely, but
> > commands issued don't do anything! Ping doesn't respond, lynx doesn't
> > respond. I'm new to all this, so don't know where I might be going
> > wrong. Can anyone give any pointers?
>
> (Hi, Chris.)  I think you're saying you've made a modem connection to
> Internet using wvdial, but then can't get any further?
>
> Do you have a ppp connection established?  Is there a default route?
>
>   netstat -r
>
> ...should show 'default' and 'ppp0', if so.
>
> Do you have ip_forwarding turned 'on'?  Try:
>
>   cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
>
> ...and you should get a result of '1'; if you don't, do:
>
>  echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
>
> ...and that'll put it there.  Do you have "policy" rules that are set
> to reject packets moving in or out of your own system?  Do:
>
>   ipchains -L
>
> ...to find out; if the 3 groups, "input", "output" and "forward" all
> show a policy of "reject" (which is their default), you'll wanna change
> that.  If you're running a standalone system, you probably can do
> blanket 'accept' statements and not be leaving your system open to
> attack from "the outside world":
>
>  ipchains -P input ACCEPT
>  ipchains -P output ACCEPT
>  ipchains -P forward ACCEPT
>
> ...will do that; it's likely you'll need to do that again, next time
> you reboot.
>
> And that's about -all- I know about this. :-)  If there are finer
> points to it that should be added, maybe someone else will join in here
> and let us know...?
>
> --
>
>  -- Jeff --   
>
>  "There's nothing left in the world to prove.  All that's worth doing
>   is to love one another, using whatever means are available to serve."
>
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System Clock

[Doug Bean << Mr Bean's Internet >>]

I have a small problem with the way my system clocks are setup. What I am
trying to do is sync my local time and UTC so they are the same. At the
moment they seem to be 10 hours apart. I have tried tzconfig but that does
not ask if i want my system clock and hwclock to be in sync or not to refer
to the UTC at all.

To make things a bit easier to understand I need to set my clocks up as if
it were a dual boot machine where the local time does not refer to UTC at
all.
Surely I don't have to rebuild the server.
Regards,
Doug Bean
Mr Bean's Internet

Re: Mutt questions (Was: Looking for a good mail program)

[David Wright]

Quoting Viktor Rosenfeld ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> My question are: 
> - Does Mutt support hierarchical folders?  E.g. I want to have a folder
> called "Mailing Lists" with individual subfolders for each mailing list
> and a folder called "Friends" with individual subfolders for each
> person.

If, by folders, you mean directories, then yes. There's nothing
special about directories to mutt, except for its short-hand
constructions like = for the principal directories for saves.

> - Can Mutt automatically move incoming mail into different folders?

I prefer to use procmail to do this as emails arrive. If you mean as
you read each message, then yes it does, and it provides hooks for 
providing the a default when you save them explicitly.

> - Can I share Mutt's mail files with another mail program, so I could
> use a GUI program when under X?  Would that be wise?

You might find, like me, that mutt runs perfectly well under X, with
the obvious advantage that it can launch more and better applications
for viewing attachments. But they are standard mailboxes: mbox, MMDF,
MH and Maildir.

Cheers,

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Re: /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh behaviour

[David Wright]

Quoting Dennis van Dok ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> from the documentation of util-linux (in frozen) I got the advice not to 
> use the hwclock --adjust feature, as it is potentially dangerous (if 
> some other program messes with the CMOS clock). My question is: what 
> alternatives do I have? I don't have a network connection on my home 
> box. I leave my computer off for long periods (days, even weeks) and 
> find that the hw clock is drifting pretty  bad. I don't want to set my 
> system clock every time I boot, especially since this might introduce 
> &pi0;time warps' in the system.
> 
> IMHO, the hwclock --adjust feature is about the best I can do for 
> getting my clock to behave. If I find out the systematic drift over a 
> period of several months, I should be OK. But Debians policy is to store 
> the system time in the hwclock on shutdown, so my adjustments are lost.

Just put # at the start of the six lines in /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh .

[ "$GMT" = "-u" ] && GMT="--utc"
hwclock --systohc $GMT
if [ "$VERBOSE" != no ]
then
echo "CMOS clock updated to `date`."
fi

Cheers,

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Re: Oops. New kernel will not come up

[David Wright]

Quoting Timothy C. Phan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
>   How do I do "dkpkg -i old k-i" if the system would not
>   come up at all?

You can't. But that's not the point. You can boot any kernel in
any old way (rescue disk, boot floppy, bootable CD, etc.
and mount your filesystem.

You may not even have to run dpkg: moving the links in / and /boot
(+- running lilo) may be enough.

Cheers,

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Re: siocsifflags

[Pontus Lidman]

On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, David Gisborne wrote:

> I installed debian 2.2.13 and am running a etherlink 3c509b card.
> 
> The 3c509 modules seems to be loading correctly because I can do an
> 
> ifconfig eth0 but when I enter
> 
> ifconfig eth0 up
> 
> it says "SIOCSIFFLAGS: resource temporarily unavailable"
> 
> I am assuming this is because it isn't probing for my isa card correctly 
> and I must do an alias with options but what is the best way to find out 
> the hardware address and irq of this card. I don't know what they are.

You must download the 3c509b setup disk from 3com's web page and use the
setup utility to configure the irq and io-ports of the card. Last time I
checked it was only available for MS-DOS :(

The other way to do it is to try each irq and io address in turn until it
happens to work. You can get some hints by looking at /proc/interrupts and
/proc/ioports to see which are currently busy. But of course it's best to
know and control which resources are used by your card.

Regards,

Pontus

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Re: ln -s /usr/doc /home/doc

[David Wright]

Quoting Debian Mail ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> I moved /usr/doc to /home/doc, since I have more space on the
> partition that is mounted on /home. Then I created a softlink to it: 
> ln -s /home/doc /usr/doc

Let's presume you've sorted out the order...

> The problem is now, that some packages (r-base 1.0.0-1 is an example)
> store documentation in different locations, and refer to it with
> softlinks using ../ These softlinks now clearly point to a non
> existing location. Is there a nice solution to solve this problem?

Well, what's interesting is what comes after the ../ and I presume
that's usually ../share/doc as /usr/doc is being migrated to
/usr/share/doc. So, as well as your pseudo-user doc, you need one
called share (an even less likely name for a real person).

The other dozen or so directories in /usr are equally unlikely to
collide with peoples' names.

Cheers,

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Re: .signature and random fortune ?

[David Wright]

Quoting Tolga KILICLI ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> Do you know how to add random fortunes to the .signature file. (each mail
> with different .signature ?)

See the thread Help about Pine (yesterday?).

Cheers,

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Re: apt-get and personal data

[David Wright]

Quoting Oki DZ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, David Wright wrote:
> > You may well fall foul of the Data Protection Act at least in Europe.
> 
> I think I didn't say that apt-get would _automatically_ grab whatever info
> available on your systems; I said that if a user put his/her info on a
> file, then apt-get would send it's content to the main site. If the user
> didn't like that idea, then the person didn't have to create the file.

I presume that you're implying by the above that because people
volunteer the information, then that's all right.

What I'm telling you is that that is not all right. I'm sure you'll
be able to turn up references to our Data Protection Act (the old and
the new) on the web. You may be surprised by them.

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Re: Creative SB Live! 1024

[John Gould]

Hi there,
 Sound has to be compiled as a module but it works fine with SMP!

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On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, sam wrote:

> You didn't compile sound support into the kernel did you? Also, this
> kernel doesn't work if you are using a kernel with SMP enabled. For the
> driver to work sound support has to be compiled as a module
> (soudcore.o) and SMP has to be disabled.
> 
> ~Sam
> 
> On 6 Apr 2000, Joachim Trinkwitz wrote:
> 
> > sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > Go to this site and download the source for the sblive kernel module
> > > (emu10k1)  http://opensource.creative.com/
> > > 
> > > Once that is compiled, cp it to /lib/modules/kernelversion#here/misc/
> > 
> > Thanks, but compiling fails with:
> > 
> > "Please run make dep in your kernel source tree modversions.h is
> > missing"
> > 
> > After make dep the same thing happens. I think the kernel source is
> > all right, I compiled my kernel successfully one week ago.
> > 
> > Thanks for your help,
> > joachim
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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Re: Creative SB Live! 1024

[Jonathan Heaney]

Joachim Trinkwitz wrote:



> The question is why I don't have the modversion.h, which the compiler
> can't find.
>

You'll need to select "Set version information on all symbols for modules" in
the Loadable Module Support section when you compile your kernel.

Jonathan

siocsifflags

[David Gisborne]

I installed debian 2.2.13 and am running a etherlink 3c509b card.

The 3c509 modules seems to be loading correctly because I can do an

ifconfig eth0 but when I enter

ifconfig eth0 up

it says "SIOCSIFFLAGS: resource temporarily unavailable"

I am assuming this is because it isn't probing for my isa card correctly 
and I must do an alias with options but what is the best way to find out 
the hardware address and irq of this card. I don't know what they are.

Re: Mutt questions (Was: Looking for a good mail program)

[Richard Taylor]

On 4/7/2000, 5:26:43 AM, Chanop Silpa-Anan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote 
regarding Re: Mutt questions 
> Once upon a time, I heard Richard  Taylor say
> > On 4/6/2000, 7:31:18 PM, Chanop Silpa-Anan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Once upon a time, I heard Viktor Rosenfeld say
> >
> > > > I recently switched my working environment from Windows to Debian only
> > > > and I've been using Netscape Mail so far.  And I *hate* it!
> > >   Me too, it's too slow!
> > :} Tried 6?

> Even slower than M14 :P

 :} It runs a bit faster on my system... I never did care for their 
mailer anyway. Somehow, my brain doesn't make the "browser/mail" 
connection... I've got no problem with the "office/mail" one.

> > This {staroffice} isn't too bad... seeing as it's integrated into the
> > office package you've got a lot of capabilities at your fingertips...
> > and... 5.2's up now.
> But, it's vey bulky.

 Yeah... unfortunately. With a largish amount of memory it's not a real 
problem though. And... once the thing loads it's reasonably fast. I'm 
used to emacs {tho' I never really noticed the slow starts with that one 
that folk always complained about.} and used to having everything sort of 
"attached".

 Considering that I've got ready access to everything from a decent 
wysiwyg html editor to a browser, databases, etc, etc... I can't really 
complain.

Re: qmail error

[Lehel Bernadt]

On Fri, 07 Apr 2000, john smith wrote:
> hi,
> when I try to install qmail after building it I get the error:
> 
> green:/tmp/qmail# dpkg -i qmail_1.03-12_i386.deb
> (Reading database ... 28966 files and directories currently installed.)
> Unpacking qmail (from qmail_1.03-12_i386.deb) ...
> Performing install
> First installation of the Debian qmail package...
> Checking if qmail is already installed on this computer... no.
> Checking group qmail (gid 64010)... error!
> Group qmail has gid 70 instead of 64010
> Checking user alias (uid 64010, gid 65534, homedir /var/qmail/alias)... 
> error!
> User alias has uid 70 instead of 64010
blablabla... 
> 8 entries have errors. Please correct these errors and reinstall qmail.
> dpkg: error processing qmail_1.03-12_i386.deb (--install):
> subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
> Errors were encountered while processing:
> qmail_1.03-12_i386.deb
> 
> what's this mean and how do I fix it?
> 

I looked in /etc/passwd and saw that it has users qmail,qmails etc.(with the
uids that caused the error), despite that I don't have qmail installed. So you
should remove them, as it seems that qmail recreates these users anyway.

Re: HELP documents about APT for beginners

[Colin Watson]

"Alex Kwan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Where is the HELP documenst talking about APT for beginners.

/usr/doc/apt/guide.html/index.html

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Re: HELP documents about APT for beginners

[Alex Kwan]

Hi!

Where is the HELP documenst talking about
APT for beginners.

Thanks

.signature and random fortune ?

[Tolga KILICLI]

Hi,
Do you know how to add random fortunes to the .signature file. (each mail
with different .signature ?)

thanks,
tk.. 

Re: Unknown problem connecting

[Jeff Gordon]

On Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 07:11:16AM -0400, J. Hartzelbuck wrote:

> Using Debian, I've installed wvdial and can connect very nicely, but
> commands issued don't do anything! Ping doesn't respond, lynx doesn't
> respond. I'm new to all this, so don't know where I might be going
> wrong. Can anyone give any pointers?

(Hi, Chris.)  I think you're saying you've made a modem connection to
Internet using wvdial, but then can't get any further?

Do you have a ppp connection established?  Is there a default route?

  netstat -r
  
...should show 'default' and 'ppp0', if so.

Do you have ip_forwarding turned 'on'?  Try:

  cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
  
...and you should get a result of '1'; if you don't, do:

 echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
 
...and that'll put it there.  Do you have "policy" rules that are set
to reject packets moving in or out of your own system?  Do:

  ipchains -L

...to find out; if the 3 groups, "input", "output" and "forward" all
show a policy of "reject" (which is their default), you'll wanna change
that.  If you're running a standalone system, you probably can do
blanket 'accept' statements and not be leaving your system open to
attack from "the outside world":

 ipchains -P input ACCEPT
 ipchains -P output ACCEPT
 ipchains -P forward ACCEPT
 
...will do that; it's likely you'll need to do that again, next time
you reboot.

And that's about -all- I know about this. :-)  If there are finer
points to it that should be added, maybe someone else will join in here
and let us know...?

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  is to love one another, using whatever means are available to serve."

Re: qmail error

[Robert Varga]

On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, john smith wrote:

> hi,
> when I try to install qmail after building it I get the error:
> 
> green:/tmp/qmail# dpkg -i qmail_1.03-12_i386.deb
> (Reading database ... 28966 files and directories currently installed.)
> Unpacking qmail (from qmail_1.03-12_i386.deb) ...
> Performing install
> First installation of the Debian qmail package...
> Checking if qmail is already installed on this computer... no.
> Checking group qmail (gid 64010)... error!
> Group qmail has gid 70 instead of 64010
> Checking user alias (uid 64010, gid 65534, homedir /var/qmail/alias)... 
> error!
> User alias has uid 70 instead of 64010
> Checking user qmaild (uid 64011, gid 65534, homedir /var/qmail)... error!
> User qmaild has uid 71 instead of 64011
> Checking user qmails (uid 64012, gid 64010, homedir /var/qmail)... error!
> User qmails has primary group 70 instead of 64010
> User qmails has uid 72 instead of 64012
> Checking user qmailr (uid 64013, gid 64010, homedir /var/qmail)... error!
> User qmailr has primary group 70 instead of 64010
> User qmailr has uid 73 instead of 64013
> Checking user qmailq (uid 64014, gid 64010, homedir /var/qmail)... error!
> User qmailq has primary group 70 instead of 64010
> User qmailq has uid 74 instead of 64014
> Checking user qmaill (uid 64015, gid 65534, homedir /var/qmail)... error!
> User qmaill has uid 75 instead of 64015
> Checking user qmailp (uid 64016, gid 65534, homedir /var/qmail)... error!
> User qmailp has uid 76 instead of 64016
> 
> 8 entries have errors. Please correct these errors and reinstall qmail.
> dpkg: error processing qmail_1.03-12_i386.deb (--install):
> subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
> Errors were encountered while processing:
> qmail_1.03-12_i386.deb
> 
This means that you have tried to install qmail on a system upgraded from
slink. In potato the userid-s that are assigned, have moved from under 100
to above  64000. You need to erase all qmail related entries from
/etc/passwd and /etc/group. Remove the directory trees from
/var/spool/qmail /etc/qmail /var/lib/qmail. Remove the symlinks from
/var/qmail and remove the directory itself. 

Purge the qmail-src package.

Remove /tmp/qmail or /usr/src/qmail whichever exists.

Now I think all qmail-related files must have vanished from your system.

Now install qmail-src package, and rebuild the package again.

Install it. Now it should build normally and should install normally.

If it installed, look at the output of the command ps auxfw

It should be something similar:

qmails 353  0.0  0.1  1044  168 ?SMar11   0:06 qmail-send
root   361  0.0  0.0  1000   68 ?SMar11   0:01  \_ qmail-lspawn 
./Maildir/
qmailr 362  0.0  0.0  1000  100 ?SMar11   0:00  \_ qmail-rspawn
qmailq 363  0.0  0.0   992   96 ?SMar11   0:00  \_ qmail-clean
qmaild 358  0.0  0.0  1372   76 ?SMar11   0:00 
/usr/bin/tcpserver -v -u 71 -g 65534 -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb 0 smtp 
/usr/sbin/qmail-smtpd

It can contain other lines depending on the setup, but these five lines
must be present (look at the end of the lines for comparing the results).

If the tcpserver for qmail-smtpd is absent, then the smtp daemon is not
running. If the other four don't exist, then the qmail queues are not
processed.

If some problems are present (eg. qmail-newu complains about permissions
during install, then write a mail to me, and I will send a 1.03-8 version
of qmail which you should be able to install on your system).

Robert Varga

Re: CD/RW under potato

[Gilbert Laycock]

"Dr. Simon Read" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm getting pretty  frustrated with my upgrade to  potato.  I bought a
> CD/RW at about the same time as upgrading, but I can't seem to make it
> work.
> 
> I know I have  to use the ide-scsi drivers, but I  have no idea how to
> configure them.   I can't make them  recognise the devices  I have.  I
> have a regular CD drive and the CD/RW (an HP 8200i) connected to ide0,
> so they are hdc and hdd.
> 
> Can anyone help me configure them?  Does anyone know a 'fine' manual I
> can refer  to?  I've read all  the relevant HOWTOs (I  think) and they
> don't help!

I think that things are slightly easier now with 2.2 kernels than with
2.0 kernels.

You have checked that you have the master and slave settings
correct for the 2 CD drives?

When I recompiled my kernel I included the following (some of which
may not strictly be necessary...)
 SCSI support, SCSI CD support, SCSI generic support, SCSI
 emulation. I de-selected IDE/ATAPI CDROM support, since I only have
 a CD/RW in this machine. I think you could do the same and read
 your normal CD drive using SCSI emulation, and this might be simpler
 than trying to have one of each.

I did *NOT* have to add 
 append="hdc=ide-scsi"
to lilo.conf (because I use modules). 

In modutils I added a new file cdrw-ide-scsi:

post-install scsi_mod "/sbin/insmod" "-k" "ide-scsi"
pre-remove scsi_mod "/sbin/rmmod" "ide-scsi"
options ide-cd ignore=hdc

and re-ran update-modules. I guess you will want to add ",hdd" to the
end of the last line (but I'm not certain of the syntax for a list of
drives to ignore).

After re-booting, my CDRW shows up as /dev/scd0, so in /dev I have a
symlink: 
 /dev/cdrom -> scd0

Your second drive will presumably show up as /dev/scd1.

The CD-Writing-HOWTO goes into more detail, and points to some web
sites that I found very helpful when first setting up my CDRW.


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Re: netscape6 mirrors?

[Francois Deppierraz]

Hans wrote:

> Anybody knows if there are mirrors of netscape 6. 10 Megs at .6 k/sec from
> the ftp site from Netscape is just too slow for me. --hans

http://francois.hebweb.ch/netscape

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Re: Mutt questions (Was: Looking for a good mail program)

[Chanop Silpa-Anan]

Once upon a time, I heard Richard  Taylor say

> On 4/6/2000, 7:31:18 PM, Chanop Silpa-Anan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote
> > Once upon a time, I heard Viktor Rosenfeld say
> 
> > > I recently switched my working environment from Windows to Debian only
> > > and I've been using Netscape Mail so far.  And I *hate* it!
> 
> >   Me too, it's too slow!
> 
> :} Tried 6?

Even slower than M14 :P

> This {staroffice} isn't too bad... seeing as it's integrated into the 
> office package you've got a lot of capabilities at your fingertips... 
> and... 5.2's up now.
> 
But, it's vey bulky.

Chanop
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Re: how to email distribution lists...?

[Jeff Gordon]

On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 12:59:04PM +0200, Joachim Trinkwitz wrote:

> Have a look at bulkmail:

Thanks, Joachim -- I was skipping right over that one because of its
name; sounded like something more "industrial-strength" than I was
looking for -- but it does appear simple and straightforward enough.

>  Smartlist also contains a bulkmail-style tool.

I've been trying that one out lately; its archiving feature has some
promise, I think. (I prefer to send the folks on my distribution list
pointers to the retrieval of interesting text files, rather than jam
the text files into their mailboxes -- so an archive server could prove
useful indeed.  I'd handled this previously with an ever-increasing
collection of infobots/autoresponders, each with its own address, but
that was clearly gonna get out of hand before much longer. :-)

> Of course you can do this with any normal MUA, but wouldn't it be a
> pain to input 100 email addresses, even with an address book?

Absolutely, given the nature of the MUA's I've been able to find for
linux; every one of them seems to expect only certain linux-centric
formats in existing addressbooks. bulk_mailer seems to be a bit more
flexible in that regard, which might prove to be a great help

Thanks kindly, Joachim; much appreciated.
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  is to love one another, using whatever means are available to serve."

Re: Fooling apt-get about new kernel?

[Chanop Silpa-Anan]

Once upon a time, I heard Svante Signell say

> Hi,
> 
> How to temporarily trick apt-get not to try to install the new kernel
> 2.2.14-3 until I have got the time to build a new one based on the
> most recent sources, 2.2.14-4?
> 
#dpkg --set-selections
kernel-image-2.2.14 hold
^D


Should do the work! or use dselect and hold the package with "=" key

Chanop
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Re: Creative SB Live! 1024

[Joachim Trinkwitz]

sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> You didn't compile sound support into the kernel did you? Also, this
> kernel doesn't work if you are using a kernel with SMP enabled. For the
> driver to work sound support has to be compiled as a module
> (soudcore.o) and SMP has to be disabled.

As I wrote in my initial posting, the card is working (it only doesn't
work with esound), and yes, I did all those things you recommend.

The question is why I don't have the modversion.h, which the compiler
can't find.

Greetings and thanks again,
joachim

Re: Re: stupid question about gs

[Daniel Reuter]

Hello there,

On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, Paolo Pedaletti wrote:

> Ciao Chris Gray,
> 
>  > > have a stupid question about gs: how to specify the pages i 
>  > > want to print?
> 
> by the way and how to print in reverse order a n >> 1 of pages?
> I haven't find anything, looking around...

Try the package psutils.
There are some really useful utilities for manipulating postscript files,
including selecting certain pages, reordering pages and the like. When you
have installed the package try 'man psselect' or 'man psbook'.
There are some other commands, but you'll find out on the manpages.
You can write the newly created postscript code to a new file, but it
should also be possible to send it through a pipe directly to lpr.

Regards,
Daniel

Re: PLIP configuration

[Daniel Reuter]

Hello Colin,

On Wed, 5 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I am looking to use PLIP to network 2 machines together.
> I'm running kernel 2.2.14, and have the PLIP module available, along with the
> other obvious modules like TCP/IP, firewalling, etc.
> 
> However, upon modprobe plip, i get the error:
> /lib/modules/2.2.14/net/plip.o: init_module: Device or resource busy

I am not sure, if this is the solution to your problem, but might be a
matter to look into:
I had exactly the same problem with a new parallel port card, I put into
my system. It had some jumpers on it to switch between SPP, EPP and ECP
mode. I first set it up to use ECP mode and assigned a DMA-Channel to it.
This resulted in the error message you got, both with the plip and the lp
module.
So I switched to EPP mode, and everything worked fine.
Seems to me if Linux doesn't yet support ECP mode. But perhaps I'm wrong,
and there's a way to get it working. To everyone on the list: please tell
me, if you know better. 
 
Regards,
Daniel

Re: Potato install: pcmcia broken?

[Tony Crawford]

Germano Leichsenring wrote (on 7 Apr 00, at 16:52):

> Hi, did you try this?
> 
> update-modules ; depmod -a ; /etc/init.d/pcmcia start

I did the depmod and start--didn't know about update-modules (why 
update them? they're brand new) but I'll try it, thanks!

Tony

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apt-get

[Oki DZ]

Hi,

Do you think that in the future all software installers will be built like
APT?

CD's...? Hmmm, don't you think that they are a bit bulky...?

Oki
 

Wait pointer

[Oki DZ]

Hi,

Does anyone notice that the wait-pointer on Enlightenment doesn't change
to "wrist-watch" when the system loads the applications? What happens on
other window managers? I think the best pointer behavior is implemented by
NextStep's; what do you think? Is there any hope that X WM's would have
the same behavior (like NextStep's) in the future? What about AfterStep?

Oki

Fooling apt-get about new kernel?

[Svante Signell]

Hi,

How to temporarily trick apt-get not to try to install the new kernel
2.2.14-3 until I have got the time to build a new one based on the
most recent sources, 2.2.14-4?

I have an smp system, patched for gart, and my current kernel is based
on the 2.2.14-2 source, version 2.2.14-2smp. Since the distributed
kernel is newer, 2.2.14-3, this version should naturally be installed
if I did not have an smp system. Of course, since the base versions
are 2.2.14, you can always answer no every time to the install
script. Better solutions?

What about Debian distributing smp kernels? Other distributions do!

How to recreate /var?

[Robert Kasunic]

Hello,

2 days ago I had to resize my /var partition, because it ran out of space. I did
it with Partition Magic 4. Well, something went wrong :-(. I had to e2fsck the
partition. Everything that was stored on it was gone to lost+found. I was able
to save some data. My problem is that plenty programs now complain about wrong
permissions and won't work (or not as they are supposed to). How can I recreate
the structure of my /var partition without having to reinstall the whole system?

Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA

Robert


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Re: Removing compiled-by-hand packages [WAS:] Potato - update-alternatives and window managers

[Taupter]

> > I'm a bit short of space in my /usr partition, and it would be
> > "useful"... :)
> 
> If you remove your versions, and install the debian versions, it's sort
> of a "half a dozen of one vs. six of the other" kind of thing. If you
> have drive space somewhere, you could move /usr/local to a new
> partition, thus giving /usr more room.

Not exactly... Some libraries, when compiled/installed, don't remove
older versions, and we can easily find different versions on
/usr/local/lib/libsomething-x.x.x.la (_not_ symlinks, sure). Wiping this
mess would be easier than trying to find different versions and removing
the right files. Some libs are 4Mb-sized, and 4 of them do waste space
in any HD.


Thanks... :)


Claudio

Java IDE

[Oki DZ]

Hi,

Have you ever run Forte on Debian systems? I have looked at it on Sun's
website. The doc says that to run it you'd need a powerful system (P.
III). The IDE is distributed on .rpm format, the size is about 9M. I was
wondering whether Forte would eat up so much CPU power; does it so? Any
experience with it? Any hope to run it on P 133?

Thanks in advance.
Oki

Re: What to do when install/uninstall both fail?

[Anthony Campbell]

On 07 Apr 2000, Oki DZ wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> 
> > What can you do when you can neither install nor uninstall a package,
> > which is left broken?
> 
> Did the installation stop when dpkg ran the config. scripts? (ie: all the
> files had been unpacked, but not yet configured). If yes, cd to
> /var/lib/dpkg/info, and look for tetex-base.pre* and tetex-base.post*.
> Then add "exit 0" after the first line (ie: after #!/bin/sh), then "dpkg
> -r tetex-base" command.
>  
> > I've done this with tetex-base. Even using the force option to remove it
> > sith with dpkg doesn't work.
> 
> Try:
> dpkg --unpack tetex-base*.deb (in /var/cache/apt/archives)
> dpkg -r tetex-base
>  
> > I think I may have to make an entirely new installation of Debian :-(
> 
> IMHO, this is the wrong way of doing things.
> 

Problem is now solved. It was due to an obscure and unusual bug in dpkg
which had put a bogus copy of install-info in /usr/bin. V. difficult to
spot that this had happened.

Anthony


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Re: Mutt questions (Was: Looking for a good mail program)

[Richard Taylor]

On 4/6/2000, 7:31:18 PM, Chanop Silpa-Anan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote
> Once upon a time, I heard Viktor Rosenfeld say

> > I recently switched my working environment from Windows to Debian only
> > and I've been using Netscape Mail so far.  And I *hate* it!

>   Me too, it's too slow!

:} Tried 6?

Anyway... there are about a zillion of them... Gnus is wonderful, 
Postillion is great, there's a command line thing which I've forgotten 
the name {initials} of which you could probably set up to do anything 
you want, TKRat's pretty nice... 

If you really can't find anything you like go to freshmeat.net and go 
through their listings...

If that still doesn't work... there's always the code to tkmail.

This {staroffice} isn't too bad... seeing as it's integrated into the 
office package you've got a lot of capabilities at your fingertips... 
and... 5.2's up now.

Re: Potato install: pcmcia broken?

[Germano Leichsenring]

Hi, did you try this?

update-modules ; depmod -a ; /etc/init.d/pcmcia start

This might solve -- or might not.
-- 
Germano Leichsenring
  Kobe University

Re: Debian kernel & VMware

[Alexander Zhuckov]

Adam Shand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > May be there are some parameters I _must_ turn on in the kernel to run
> > VMware? or may be I must install respective kernel-headers package?
> 
> you need to have the real time clock enabled.  other then that i don't think
> there is anything that is required (the default debian kernel used to
> provide it).
> 
> i haven't played with vmware for quite a while but if you didn't have the
> rtc enabled vmware would just print out an error message when you tried to
> run it.

I have `enhanced real time clock' enabled. It doesn't help :(
-- 
Alexander Zhuckov   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   2:5030/518.50

Re: Debian kernel & VMware

[Alexander Zhuckov]

Adam Shand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > May be there are some parameters I _must_ turn on in the kernel to run
> > VMware? or may be I must install respective kernel-headers package?
> 
> you need to have the real time clock enabled.  other then that i don't think
> there is anything that is required (the default debian kernel used to
> provide it).
> 
> i haven't played with vmware for quite a while but if you didn't have the
> rtc enabled vmware would just print out an error message when you tried to
> run it.

I have `enhanced real time clock' enabled. It doesn't help :(
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Re: CD/RW under potato

[Johann Spies]

On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, Dr. Simon Read wrote:

> Folks,
> 
> I'm getting pretty  frustrated with my upgrade to  potato.  I bought a
> CD/RW at about the same time as upgrading, but I can't seem to make it
> work.
> 
> I know I have  to use the ide-scsi drivers, but I  have no idea how to
> configure them.   I can't make them  recognise the devices  I have.  I
> have a regular CD drive and the CD/RW (an HP 8200i) connected to ide0,
> so they are hdc and hdd.
> 
> Can anyone help me configure them?  Does anyone know a 'fine' manual I
> can refer  to?  I've read all  the relevant HOWTOs (I  think) and they
> don't help!

You have to recompile your kernel to enable scsi-emulation and then also
edit your lilo or loadlin-configuration.

I found this in a previous discussion on this topic in the list (sent in
by a certain "Seth"):

I've gotten the IDE-SCSI emulation working in a 2.2 (2.2.9?)
kernel and have a lilo append line which allows the CDRW (a new Smart and
Friendly, JVC repackaged) to live on sg0 while the CD-ROM lives on hdd.
This works flawlessly.  I've burned to this drive under linux (only a
couple of times) and ripped from the other.  The CDRW is master on IDE1
and the CD-ROM is slave on IDE1.

I have CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDESCSI=y, CONFIG_SCSI=y,
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=y and CONFIG_CHR_DEV_SG=y as the chief differences
between my pre-CDRW kernel.  My lilo.conf has :

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.9
label=current
append="hdc=ide-scsi"
read-only

As the boot line.
--- 
Another valuable source of information is amongst the cdrecord
documentation: README.ATAPI

Ask again if this does not solve your problem.

Regards.

Johann
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Tel/Faks 021-876-2337 Sel/Cell 082-255-2388
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  from all my fears."   Psalm 34:4  

mouse setup

[james nigh]

ok. i just recently did a re-install. i have a logitech wingman mouse. my last 
install worked perfect w/ this. not this time however. i don't THINK i've done 
anything differently this time around, yet i can't use the middle mouse button 
for anything in X.
otherwise it works fine. just no middle mouse button functionality (incl. 
copy/paste which is driving me nuts!)
one thing is that during gpmconfig it hangs at he first part (after it locates 
the possible mouse types and asks to move it around then press any key. i have 
to ctrl-c out of it then go from there).
i have it configures as /dev/psaux and ps2 as the protocol.
should it be /dev/mouse or something?
i had this problem once before w/ a MS wheel mouse and it turned out to be 
something stupid, but i've tried all the possible configurations i can think of 
to no avail.
could it be something in the kernel (i d/l'ed rebuilt the kernel w/ 2.3)
any ideas?

james
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

ntpd flails on machine with large clock error...

[Joe Emenaker]

I've got a machine that's 12800 seconds behind the rest of the world. I'd
like to fix that.

With normal execution of the daemon, it exits immediately after writing to
the logs something to the effect of "clock over 1000s off... set clock
manually...".

However, in this case, I'm more in need of a *smooth* transition to the
proper time than I am in need of a *prompt* one. I don't mind if ntpd needs
a day or two to bring things into line...

So, I tried the "-g" option, which is supposed to disable the "1000s sanity
check". This causes ntpd to run for about 5 minutes before exiting with the
same log message as before. In the intervening 5 minutes, no clock
adjustment happens.

Does anybody have any ideas?

- Joe

Potato install: pcmcia broken?

[Tony Crawford]

Boy, I sure do pick loser subject lines! (was: Order of installation -
 potato/pcmcia.) Second try:

Hi gang!

What am I doing wrong? I copied linux, install.bat, base2_2.tgz, 
driver2_2.tgz, loadlin.exe etc. etc. to a DOS partition on my Toshiba 
4080 XCDT, then booted from a DOS floppy and ran install.bat.

The installation looks great (congratulations, team!) up to "reboot 
the system": the boot hangs in /etc/init.d/pcmcia, right after it 
echoes "modules" to the screen. The pcmcia modules all show 
unresolved symbols. Don't they fit the 2.2.14 kernel that comes with 
the installation? Is something broken, or is there an operator error 
here?

(I can Alt+Ctrl+F2 out of the dbootstrap routine and disable the 
init.d/pcmcia script before rebooting, but then what--go to dpkg and 
install kernel and pcmcia module sources and recompile before 
finishing the installation? That can't be the intended behavior.)

Tony

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CD/RW under potato

[Dr. Simon Read]

Folks,

I'm getting pretty  frustrated with my upgrade to  potato.  I bought a
CD/RW at about the same time as upgrading, but I can't seem to make it
work.

I know I have  to use the ide-scsi drivers, but I  have no idea how to
configure them.   I can't make them  recognise the devices  I have.  I
have a regular CD drive and the CD/RW (an HP 8200i) connected to ide0,
so they are hdc and hdd.

Can anyone help me configure them?  Does anyone know a 'fine' manual I
can refer  to?  I've read all  the relevant HOWTOs (I  think) and they
don't help!

Simon Read

Dept. of Comp. Sci. and Info. Sys.
Clark 120
American University
4400 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20016
Tel: 1 202 885 3128
Fax: 1 202 885 1479
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WWW: www.csis.american.edu/~simon

Re: no wonder...

[Richard Taylor]

On 4/6/2000, 9:03:41 PM, Oki DZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding Re: 
no
> On 5 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > No wonder people say that Debian is the most difficult
> > Unix-clone distro to install and use...
> ...
> > Another thing, is the dselect program: it is quite
> > difficult to use...

 As compared to something like... say... notepad?

 What's difficult about selecting things from a menu?

Bulk Import of users

[Mark A. Bialik]

Hello:

Has anyone used the 'newusers' command to suck in a bunch of new users
and their passwords from a text file?

The users do not currently have accounts on the system, so I can't use
chpasswd.

I built a new Debian box, and have all my users and passwords in a text
file. I want to add them in bulk, plus have the home directories
created, etc.

man newusers is absolutely no help whatsoever. I'm stuck on the input
file format.

Thanks much,
Mark
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==
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Infinity HealthCare, Inc.   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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qmail error

[john smith]

hi,
when I try to install qmail after building it I get the error:

green:/tmp/qmail# dpkg -i qmail_1.03-12_i386.deb
(Reading database ... 28966 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking qmail (from qmail_1.03-12_i386.deb) ...
Performing install
First installation of the Debian qmail package...
Checking if qmail is already installed on this computer... no.
Checking group qmail (gid 64010)... error!
Group qmail has gid 70 instead of 64010
Checking user alias (uid 64010, gid 65534, homedir /var/qmail/alias)... 
error!

User alias has uid 70 instead of 64010
Checking user qmaild (uid 64011, gid 65534, homedir /var/qmail)... error!
User qmaild has uid 71 instead of 64011
Checking user qmails (uid 64012, gid 64010, homedir /var/qmail)... error!
User qmails has primary group 70 instead of 64010
User qmails has uid 72 instead of 64012
Checking user qmailr (uid 64013, gid 64010, homedir /var/qmail)... error!
User qmailr has primary group 70 instead of 64010
User qmailr has uid 73 instead of 64013
Checking user qmailq (uid 64014, gid 64010, homedir /var/qmail)... error!
User qmailq has primary group 70 instead of 64010
User qmailq has uid 74 instead of 64014
Checking user qmaill (uid 64015, gid 65534, homedir /var/qmail)... error!
User qmaill has uid 75 instead of 64015
Checking user qmailp (uid 64016, gid 65534, homedir /var/qmail)... error!
User qmailp has uid 76 instead of 64016

8 entries have errors. Please correct these errors and reinstall qmail.
dpkg: error processing qmail_1.03-12_i386.deb (--install):
subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
qmail_1.03-12_i386.deb

what's this mean and how do I fix it?

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Re: More network setups

[Oki DZ]

On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Radim Gelner wrote:

> I'm moving from network to network quite often
> and I carry my notebook with me. This leads to
> the need of more network setups (IP addresses,
> DNS, hostname, SMTP/POP server, etc).

You didn't tell whether the networks you connected to are via PPP, but
anyway:
Creating connection scripts using pppconfig (you have Debian on your
notebook, right?) would solve the problem. Say, if you have 3 ISPs, then
you'd have:
pon ISP1, to connect to ISP1
pon ISP2, to connect to ISP2
etc.
The connection scripts will set the DNS servers for each the ISP you have.
SMTP/POP servers can be set using the Preferences on the mail client
software.

Oki

Re: installing a single package

[Oki DZ]

On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, FreeMan wrote:
> I've downloaded the swat-package file. But I don't know how to 
> install it. I tried it with dselect, but it seems to that with dselect it's 
> just possible to install packages which came with the distribution. 
> Can anybody tell me what I have to do? have to do?

In the directory where swat*.deb resides:
dpkg -i swat*.deb

If the configuration fails:
dpkg --unpack swat*.deb
then configure the package manually.

Oki

Re: Basic PPP dialup to ISP question

[Oki DZ]

On Sat, 1 Apr 2000, dyer wrote:
> note that if you only use one ISP, you can use the name 'default' for the 
> connection,
> and only need to issue the command:
> pon

Shouldn't it be 'provider'?

Oki

Re: Internet Access

[james nigh]

well, he mentioned that he's connecting via a cable modem (i do as well).
which acts essentially like a lan/wan. i personally have a static ip rather
than dhcp, though. so i don't know if their server will assign dns servers
upon connection or not w/ linux..

james

- Original Message -
From: "Oki DZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: Internet Access


>
>
> On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, james nigh wrote:
>
> > you should still need dns. you should have been given a few dns numbers
at some point.
> > plug those into /etc/resolv.conf and you should be all set. if you
weren't given any, try pasting this in:
> >
> > nameserver24.0.224.33
> > nameserver24.0.224.34
>
> If you use pppconfig to setup your ppp connection, then tinkering with
> /etc/resolv.conf wouldn't be needed (it will be updated each time you have
> an open connection).
>
> Oki
>
>
>
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Re: config problems

[Oki DZ]

On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, Eric G . Miller wrote:
> Ctrl-Alt-F1 to a virtual console. Log in as root. Run /etc/init.d/xdm
> stop.  Now fix your xf86config and *test* it with startx. You might try
> XF86Setup for a GUI config.

It would be nicer to: X -probeonly
to test the /etc/XF86Config.

Oki

just one line output

[matthschulz]

Hi all,

is there a way >cat to tell it should just print the first or
maybe a particular line(s) of the input?

I was a little bit looking, but man cat says nothing. Though
maybe I'm on the wrong track and something else is better for
that purpose. But I have absolutely no idea, where to look.

Thanks Matth