modperl is gone? -- SOLVED

2000-04-15 Thread w trillich
i was fully prepared to whine about being in the dark on how the hell
can you find the package to download when you just know about one
missing file?

well, i solved it myself, so thought i'd share the process...
(i'll get to whine later about something else, i'm sure.)



i'd changed some stuff in the config files for apache, so i
wanted to reload the settings:
# apachectl graceful
it whined about troubles, and suggested i try:
# apachectl configtest
Syntax error on line 100 of /etc/apache/httpd.conf:
Cannot load /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_perl.so into server:
/usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_perl.so: cannot open shared object file: No
such file or directory


WHAT? modperl is gone? how can apache even RUN without modperl? aaugh!
that's like a face without a skull! or a skull without a brain! or
a brain without a mind! or a mind without a purpose!

so i tried
# apt-get --reinstall install modperl
# apt-get --reinstall install mod_perl
# apt-get --reinstall install mod-perl

but it didn't find any of those.
(i was shooting in the dark, can you tell?)


AHA.

here's how you find out what the bloomin' package names are...

# dpkg -S modperl
dpkg: *modperl* not found.

damn. seemed reasonable, but there are other permutations possible.
here i try mod-perl with a hyphen:

# dpkg -S mod-perl
libapache-mod-perl: /usr/share/doc/libapache-mod-perl/README.gz
libapache-mod-perl: 
/usr/share/doc/libapache-mod-perl/examples/CVS/Template
[snip]

the mother lode! let's try one more permutation, just for giggles--this
time mod_perl with an underscore:

# dpkg -S mod_perl
libapache-mod-perl: /usr/share/man/man3/cgi_to_mod_perl.3pm.gz
libapache-mod-perl: 
/usr/lib/perl5/5.005/i386-linux/mod_perl_method_handlers.pod
libapache-mod-perl: /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/i386-linux/mod_perl.pod
[snip]

the father lode!

so now i know to ask for libapache-mod-perl...

# apt-get install libapache-mod-perl
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  libhtml-parser-perl libmime-base64-perl liburi-perl libwww-perl
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libapache-mod-perl libhtml-parser-perl libmime-base64-perl
liburi-perl libwww-perl
0 packages upgraded, 5 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/1056kB of archives. After unpacking 2971kB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Selecting previously deselected package libmime-base64-perl.
(Reading database ... 36058 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking libmime-base64-perl (from
.../libmime-base64-perl_2.11-2_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package liburi-perl.
Unpacking liburi-perl (from .../liburi-perl_1.04-2_all.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libhtml-parser-perl.
Unpacking libhtml-parser-perl (from
.../libhtml-parser-perl_3.02-3_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libwww-perl.
Unpacking libwww-perl (from .../libwww-perl_5.47-1_all.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libapache-mod-perl.
Unpacking libapache-mod-perl (from
.../libapache-mod-perl_1.21.2309-1_i386.deb) ...
Setting up libmime-base64-perl (2.11-2) ...
Setting up liburi-perl (1.04-2) ...

Setting up libhtml-parser-perl (3.02-3) ...

Setting up libwww-perl (5.47-1) ...

Setting up libapache-mod-perl (1.21.2309-1) ...

so it also set-up other items that i needed, as well (just like it
says in the docs!) all of which i'd already downloaded. i know that
no downloading was necessary because it confirms that you really
wanna download before doing so, and it said
Need to get 0B/1056kB of archives. After unpacking 2971kB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
so i confirmed that i wanted to install, though no downloading was
needed. very cool.

that's how i got past the hurdle of missing crucial components.

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now i just gotta figure out where the apache settings are that are
keeping all my cgi's from working.


Re: Trying to run one process as root, how?

2000-04-15 Thread Robin M. Stephens
On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 04:32:31PM -0500, Bryan Walton wrote:
 Greetings to the list,
   I have a situation where I need to run one program as root,
 through an x terminal, while my x windows session is being run as
 non-root.  When I open up an x terminal in this environment, become
 superuser, and then execute the program, the program fails with the
 following message:
   Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
   Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
   Error: Can't open display: :0.0

Bring up xterm,

ssh -l root localhost

No need to muck around with xhost or magic cookies or anything else.

Robin


Re: Problem with telnetd

2000-04-15 Thread kmself
What are your firewall and/or /etc/hosts.allow | /etc/hosts.deny
settings?

Telnet is an insecure protocol and should generally not be used.  SSH is
the preferred alternative these days.  The Security HOWTO also mentions
a secure telnet replacement using SSL.

On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 11:33:12AM +0200, Vicente Torres wrote:
 When I telnet my machine from another box,
 I get following message
 
 bash-2.02$ telnet mymachine
 Trying XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX...
 Connected to mymachine.
 Escape character is '^]'.
 telnetd: getpty: Permission denied
 .
 Connection closed by foreign host.
 bash-2.02$ 
 
 SSH works well. I think it was after upgrading
 to woody when I started to get this problem.
 
 any idea?
 
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Re: /usr/doc/ vs /usr/share/doc/

2000-04-15 Thread Brian May
 w == w trillich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

w after getting apt-get upgrade all clean (not that there isn't
w a hangnail now and then) i noticed that i've got lots of stuff
w in /usr/share/doc now. much of it looks just like the stuff
w i've already got under /usr/doc.

w is the /usr/share/doc stuff significant? should it replace the
w /usr/doc items? can i obliterate it?

/usr/doc == OLD
/usr/share/doc == NEW

however, at the moment, both are used, so don't delete either!

(/usr/doc should contain a symlink into /usr/share/doc for each
directory, so minimal space is wasted.)
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RE: mount ownership problem (newbie, maybe)

2000-04-15 Thread Christian Pernegger
Hello

Thanks for your reply (this goes to Oswald, too)

It seems that I know so little, that my question was beside the point. :)

Please, let me have another go:

1) I want only root to be able to mount anything but floppies.
I removed user from the list of mount options for the cd drives in
/etc/fstab.

2) I want only users that belong to the group cdrom to have access to
   cds at all, if and when any are mounted under /mnt/cdrom and
   /mnt/burner. Other users shouldn't even be able to determine if there
   is a cd mounted.
I set the permissions on the mountpoints like this:
dr-xr-x--- root cdrom ... and checked that /dev/scd* belong to the
cdrom group as well.

3) If a mounted cd is pure ISO9660, I don't care about permissions
   _under_ the mountpoints, because a unauthorized user couldn't even cd
   to them. If it has rockridge extensions, these should apply.
This is where I'm stumped - as soon as I mount a drive, the
mountpoints permissions are reset to dr-xr-xr-x root root ...
and everyone who can login remotely may browse an ISO cd at will!

If asked a friend about this, who's generally more Linux educated than me
and he just said who cares, noone's ever thought about this.

So maybe I'm not making much sense to you -sorry.

Christian

 -Original Message-
 From: Ron Rademaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 9:51 AM
 To: Christian Pernegger
 Cc: Debian user list; recipient list not shown: ;
 Subject: Re: mount  ownership problem (newbie, maybe)
 
 
 I'm not sure but I think a chmod on /dev/scd0 will work...
 But as far as I know every user was always allowed to read a mounted
 cdrom, I never had a permission denied...
 
 Ron Rademaker
 
 On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Christian Pernegger wrote:
 
  Hello
  
  I created the following mountpoint directories under /mnt
  name(user/group)device  (user/group)
  floppy  (root/floppy)   /dev/fd0(root/floppy)
  cdrom   (root/cdrom)/dev/scd0   (root/cdrom)
  burner  (root/cdrom)/dev/scd1   (root/cdrom)
  
  Now if I want to mount the cd rom:
  
  # su
  ...
  # mount /mnt/cdrom
  
  That works fine. The only problem is, after that the /mnt/cdrom dir's
  ownerships will be (root/root) and thus inaccessible by members 
 of the cdrom
  group. If I unmount it, everything is back to normal...
  
  How do I allow a group to access a mountpoint when the device is mounted?
  
  Christian 


How to set initial wd in gnome-terminal? (newbie)

2000-04-15 Thread Christian Pernegger
On the console, everything is fine - when I log in as root, I start in the
/root directory. When I log in as a user I start in ~username/.

However, any gnome-terminals I open under X drop me to /root regardless of
login. Of course, since I mostly use a standard user, the first command always
is cd ~. Maybe I could put the command in a .somethingorother file, but
shouldn't this be standard behaviour?

Tell me, what did I break? :(

Thanks a lot

Christian


network oddity

2000-04-15 Thread David Karlin
Hello,
I have a slink box which has been running great.  It was up for over
45 days without a hitch.

The box does ipmasq-ing (among other tasks) for my lan, but when it
is booted, it won't respond to a ping, telnet, ftp, or http request
until I make a network connection _from_ that box (eg. ping another
box on the lan, or make a PPP connection to my ISP).

Anyone else had this happen?

TIA. 
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One Lp, problem solved! But where do parms go?

2000-04-15 Thread Kenneth Scharf
I posted a question here a while ago asking how to
configure the system to use only one of three LP ports
that I have. (on potato) I found out the answer, and
it's not what anyone else mentioned.

I had to give parport_pc the following module
argument:
io=0x378

I had to then give lp the following module argument:
parport1,none,none

This was figured out by running modinfo -p on lp.o and
parport_pc.o  (I also figure how how to configure my
sb module that way!)

Now I have a question...where are the module
parameters given to modconf stored.  They are NOT in
/etc/modules as the comments there seem to indicate. 
Does modconf actually modify the module binary?  Or is
there another configuration file someplace?

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Freexdsl internet

2000-04-15 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
Has anybody tried this from a Linux box? What do you think? Any ideas,
any forseen catch?
http://www.freexdsl.com


Re: 2 newbie questions

2000-04-15 Thread Joe Bouchard
On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 10:30:07AM -0400, Peter Solinsky wrote:
 I have a boca-research modem which is PNP compatable but debian can't 
 detect it.  Do I need to manually set the jumpers for and open COM and IRQ 
 for it to be recognized?

Try http://www.grapevine.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html and make sure
you modem is on the good list.
 
 2nd:  I am having trouble getting xwindows to work properly.  When I run 
 xf86config and set the card for SVGA, my monitor blanks and I get nothing, 
 the main problem is I cannot get linux to reboot without entering xwin at 
 startup which means my screen blanks at startup and I can't rerun config 
 w/o wiping everything and starting over.

CNTROL - ALT - BACKSPACE will kill xwindows and get you back to the
command line (usually).

You probably have xdm, which is a package which launches Xwindows
automatically on bootup.  If you don't have a good X setup, then it can
be a hassle.  Once you get X working if you want to use xdm that's fine.

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VPN question

2000-04-15 Thread Pollywog
What is the easiest way to create a VPN between two Linux machines,
one that will work even when my system is using shadow passwords.

thanks

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Re: problems with apt-get upgrade slink - potato

2000-04-15 Thread Eric G . Miller
Try again in a little while.  This sometimes happens.  Make sure to run
apt-get update again first.

On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 09:36:12AM -0500, Gregory Guthrie wrote:
 I tried to do a slink-potato upgrade,
 I put the potato debian site in /etc/apt/sources.list, and let go with
 
 atp-get update-- works fine...
 apt-get dist-upgrade   -- problems...
 
 but, (see below) it looks like I get only a few fiels, adn many many errors 
 which seem server related.
 
 Suggestions?
 
 Gregory Guthrie
 
 --
 Script started on Thu Apr 13 20:13:21 2000
 csgrg.root(501) 
 csgrg.root(502)  apt-get dist-upgrade
 
 Reading Package Lists... 0%
 Reading Package Lists... 100%
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... 0%
 Building Dependency Tree... 0%
 Building Dependency Tree... 50%
 Building Dependency Tree... 50%
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 Calculating Upgrade... Done
 The following packages will be REMOVED:
timezones libmd5-perl perl libpam0g-util perl-suid libsnmp3.6 netstd
 The following NEW packages will be installed:
libncurses5 traceroute perl-5.004-base libwrap0 libpam-modules perl-5.004
perl-5.005 ruptime liburi-perl libpam-runtime rusers rsh-server java-common
perl-5.004-suid tcpd rdate cfingerd perl-5.004-doc tftp finger 
 libstdc++2.10
icmpinfo rwho bootpc rdist ftp rwall perl-5.005-base rwhod fping libsnmp4.1
tcl8.2 tk8.2 rsh-client debconf libreadline4 nfs-common pidentd 
 liblockfile1
 169 packages upgraded, 39 newly installed, 7 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
 Need to get 62.4MB/63.2MB of archives. After unpacking 58.2MB will be used.
 Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
 
 0% [Waiting for file]
 
 Get:1 http://http.us.debian.org potato/main libc6-dev 2.1.3-8 [2092kB]
 
 
 0% [1 libc6-dev 1142/2092kB 0%]
 ...
 3% [1 libc6-dev 2088942/2092kB 99%]   11.5kB/s 
 1h27m51s
 3% [Working]  11.5kB/s 
 1h27m50s
 Err http://http.us.debian.org potato/main libc6 2.1.3-8
400 Bad Request
 Err http://http.us.debian.org potato/main libpam0g 0.72-7
Bad header line
 
 Err http://http.us.debian.org potato/main snmp 4.1.1-2
The http server sent an invalid reply header
 
 Get:2 http://http.us.debian.org potato/main ncurses-base 5.0-6 [80.7kB]
 
 3% [2 ncurses-base 0/80.7kB 0%]   11.5kB/s 
 1h27m50s
 
 Err http://http.us.debian.org potato/main libncurses4 4.2-9
400 Bad Request
 
 Err http://http.us.debian.org potato/main netbase 3.18-2
Bad header line
 
 Get:3 http://http.us.debian.org potato/main libwrap0 7.6-4 [52.8kB]
 
 3% [3 libwrap0 0/52.8kB 0%] 9941B/s 
 1h41m3s
 ...
 3% [3 libwrap0 47836/52.8kB 90%]   9963B/s 
 1h40m45s
 3% [Working]   9963B/s 
 1h40m44s
  
 
 Err http://http.us.debian.org potato/main tcpd 7.6-4
501 Method Not Implemented
 
 
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Re: Proper environment settings`

2000-04-15 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 08:04:29PM +0200, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
  Can someone give me the best route to change the PATH variable when
  inside an xsession.  Changing such things as .bashrc and .profile
  etc don't seem like the answer to me?   Both for root and users.  
  
 change the global .profile: /etc/profile

Actually, for individual users, ~/.bashrc is the perfect place.  Just
source it in your ~/.xsession.

if [ -f $HOME/.bashrc ]; then
   source  $HOME/.bashrc
fi

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Re: postgresql 7 (woody) broken - downgraded to frozen

2000-04-15 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 01:34:01PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
 The upgrade to postgresql 7 is broken rather horribly in several places
 -- postinstall does not work, this has been noted as a bug on the
 tracking system, though the posted fix (changed flags to dbinst) only
 addresses part of the problem.  The bug is now outstanding for over two
 weeks.

I recall Mr. Elphick reporting a week or so ago that users should stick
with the 6.5.3 postgresql for a while as the 7.0 version had some
serious issues.  You know the saying about *.0 version...

 
 I've resolved the issue on my own system by reverting to the following
 frozen packages:
 
 ecpg_6.5.3-18.deb
 libpgperl_6.5.3-18.deb
 libpgsql2_6.5.3-18.deb
 libpgsql_6.3.2-16.1.deb
 libpgtcl_6.5.3-18.deb
 postgresql-client_6.5.3-18.deb
 postgresql-contrib_6.5.3-18.deb
 postgresql-dev_6.5.3-18.deb
 postgresql-doc_6.5.3-18.deb
 postgresql-pl_6.5.3-18.deb
 postgresql-test_6.5.3-18.deb
 postgresql_6.5.3-18.deb
 
 ...downloaded and installed with
 
dpkg -i --force-downgrade *.deb
 
 ...works
 
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Re: newbie question: problem with libpng2

2000-04-15 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 02:23:07PM -0700, Sunil Pandey wrote:
 I am trying to install libpng2 1.0.5-1 on my machine.
 However when I do:
 dpkg --install libpng2_1.0.5-1.deb
 it tells me that libpng2 depends on libz1 and that
 libz1 is not installed. However, according to the
 debian site, libpng2 depends on zlib1g which I have
 already installed on my system.
 How do I get thru this..
 
 Sunil

File a bug report if there isn't one already.  That dependency should be
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Re: One Lp, problem solved! But where do parms go?

2000-04-15 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 05:08:06PM -0700, Kenneth Scharf wrote:
 I posted a question here a while ago asking how to
 configure the system to use only one of three LP ports
 that I have. (on potato) I found out the answer, and
 it's not what anyone else mentioned.
 
 I had to give parport_pc the following module
 argument:
 io=0x378
 
 I had to then give lp the following module argument:
 parport1,none,none
 
 This was figured out by running modinfo -p on lp.o and
 parport_pc.o  (I also figure how how to configure my
 sb module that way!)
 
 Now I have a question...where are the module
 parameters given to modconf stored.  They are NOT in
 /etc/modules as the comments there seem to indicate. 
 Does modconf actually modify the module binary?  Or is
 there another configuration file someplace?

Check out /etc/modutils/aliases

Only edit the files there, then run update-modules, which will create a
modified /etc/modules.conf for you (which is the file actually read by
insmod and friends).


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Re: dselect

2000-04-15 Thread kmself
On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 03:43:37PM +0200, admar wrote:
 Hello.
 
 I'm using Debian potato on my laptop at school where I have a fast and
 free internet connection. At another computer at home, I'm using Debian
 slink. I would like to put potato on that computer to, but that one has no
 fast  free connection. That computer uses some packages not installed my
 laptop. I would like to be able to download and not install those
 packages on my laptop, then use apt-move to put them on the ftp of my
 laptop and upgrade the other computer. 
 It would also be nice if those packages were automatically updated on my
 laptop every time I update the installed packages on my laptop.
 Does anyone know a solution?

apt-zip ?

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mouse

2000-04-15 Thread Chris Mason
I'm installing corel linux on yet another machine, this time for a web server, 
and from the start the mouse did not work. It's a standard two button mouse, 
com1 interface, works under windows, so why would corel not initialize this 
mouse?
How do I install the mouse?
Thanks

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Re: mouse

2000-04-15 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 10:09:32PM -0400, Chris Mason wrote:
 I'm installing corel linux on yet another machine, this time for a web
 server, and from the start the mouse did not work. It's a standard two
 button mouse, com1 interface, works under windows, so why would corel
 not initialize this mouse?  How do I install the mouse?  Thanks

Never heard of a standard two-button mouse.  You'll need to be a little
more specific.  When you say com1 I'm guessing you mean the serial
interface /dev/ttyS0.  So, try that as the device for starters.  Then,
you may need to use something like the Bus Mouse or Logitech Mouse
driver.  If you have XF86Setup installed or (Xmseconfig for just mouse
properties) try playing around with different settings until you find
one that works (you'll want to enable Emulate 3 button mouse).

If you still can't get it to work, please specify the exact type of
mouse and the interface it connects to (guessing serial port).

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installation

2000-04-15 Thread Joshua E Mcghee
   I am attempting to install Debian on my machine, only during the normal
boot, it hangs up.  The last line is NCR53c406: no available ports found
   I am not new to Linux, but am to Debian, and I have several friends who
run Debian, and they are stumped.
   My machine is an AMD Athlon 600 with 128 RAM, ASUS K7M mboard, 20 GB
IBM HDD.  Any help or insight would be appreciated :-)  Thanks a lot!

Josh


problems with apt-get upgrade slink - potato

2000-04-15 Thread Gregory Guthrie

I tried to do a slink-potato
upgrade, 
I put the potato debian site in /etc/apt/sources.list, and let go with


atp-get update -- works
fine...
apt-get dist-upgrade -- problems...

Each time I would only get a few files, but after 15-20 tries, I seem to
have almost everything; 
almost..

But it still seems stuck, some help please?

apt-get suggests: --fix-missing
but then reports that this is an invalid option.

Gregory Guthrie

--
csgrg.root(518)  apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Calculating Upgrade... Done

The following packages will be REMOVED:
 timezones libmd5-perl perl libpam0g-util perl-suid libsnmp3.6
netstd 

The following NEW packages will be installed:
 libncurses5 traceroute perl-5.004-base libwrap0 libpam-modules
perl-5.004
 perl-5.005 ruptime liburi-perl libpam-runtime rusers rsh-server
java-common
 perl-5.004-suid tcpd rdate cfingerd perl-5.004-doc tftp finger
libstdc++2.10
 icmpinfo rwho bootpc rdist ftp rwall perl-5.005-base rwhod fping
libsnmp4.1
 tcl8.2 tk8.2 rsh-client debconf libreadline4 nfs-common pidentd
liblockfile1

169 packages upgraded, 39 newly installed, 7 to remove and 0 not
upgraded.
Need to get 15.9kB/63.2MB of archives. After unpacking 58.2MB will be
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Re: problems with apt-get upgrade slink - potato

2000-04-15 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

 atp-get update-- works fine...
 apt-get dist-upgrade   -- problems...
 
 Each time I would only get a few files, but after 15-20 tries, I seem to 
 have almost everything;
 almost..

Run update again if that fails find out if you are behind one of those
defective HTTP proxies :|

Jason


Re: Proper environment settings`

2000-04-15 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 12:20:31PM -0500, Dan Myers wrote:
 Hiya,
 
 Can someone give me the best route to change the PATH variable when inside an
 xsession.  Changing such things as .bashrc and .profile etc don't seem like 
 the
 answer to me?   Both for root and users.  

basically your using {x,w}dm and finding that your ~/.profile and
friends are being ignored.  this is due to these display managers
being broken (IMO) by not reading any of the user's environment (or
even /etc/profile) when setting up the session.  the solution assuming
your bash is not broken (some older potato versions were) is changing
the first line of /etc/X11/Xsession from #! /bin/bash to 
#! /bin/bash --login  

this will solve the problem so long as the user uses bash unfortunatly
not for other shells.

 TIA
 
 
 Dan Myers
 Web Developer 
 Strategic Information Services
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Re: need info for confused ISP

2000-04-15 Thread Andrew George
Wasn't there some statistics in the last few days about isp downtime in Germany?
I think it was a link on Linuxtoday

Andrew


On Sat, 15 Apr 2000, Pollywog wrote:
 On 14-Apr-2000 20:36:53 Vitux wrote:
  Well over a year ago, I saw somewhere on the net that there
  was an experiment comparing the hacker-seurity of a
  linux-server to a windohs. That was when I started getting
  into Linux: everyone was invited to try to break the
  servers. NT was killed in 2 days, I believe. Linux was
  never.
  Probably not much use to you, but quite a little
  snickersnicker story...
 
 I did mention this to them today, since I remember this too.
 In one of their e-mails, one of their tech support people told me
 that one of her/his friends did a similar experiment and the friend's
 machine was taken down in a few minutes.  It seems now that they do
 understand that this happens because the server is not properly
 configured, not because Linux has inherent security holes.
 
 thanks
 
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Re: install help with a SCSI CDROM on a 486

2000-04-15 Thread wganz
 ummm... does it say something like no pci bios found in the
 bootup messages?  I had a compaq 486 that had scsi and net built
 in and never could get linux to run on it.  Compaq had done something
 funny with the pci bios.  It was located above normal accessable
 memory.  There was a tool to relocate the pci bios down to where it
 was supposed to go (available for download from compaq).  This was
 back in the deb 1.1 or 1.2 days (just after the switch to elf).  The

it says something that no pci found as well is correct since it only
has ISA, the SCSI card is not builtin but was a bought Adaptec. The
program is called movepci  you need to load movepci.sys with DOS
prior to loading Linux. A common problem also with Netware since
this patch was originally for it.

I really don't think that this is the problem since the SCSI card is a
typical ISA card(i.e. IRQ 10, mem add 0x140, SCSI adapter#7).

The problem is that Linux doesn't find on autoprobe and you must pass
the parameters to it. The problem is that I cannot find a straight
definitive
answer on where this is done.

This is starting to remind me of trying to get an honest answer out of a
politician.





Re: need info for confused ISP

2000-04-15 Thread Pollywog
We e-mailed back and forth a few times and it came out that what they
meant was that they don't know anything about Linux and that trying
to run it would be a security risk because they don't know how to
configure it.

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On 15-Apr-2000 03:05:35 George Bonser wrote:
 
 Well, then, tell them to try Solaris. It works on Intel Hardware.
 The fist
 thing I would ask them, though, is for them to document exactly
 what
 security holes they are talking about. Then ask them why Linux is
 so often
 used as a firewall to protect NT from the internet.


perl-base package of wrong version?

2000-04-15 Thread Maciej Kalisiak
When I do dpkg -l 'perl*' I get the following (abbreviated):

Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err:
uppercase=bad)
||/ Name   VersionDescription
+++-==-==-
pn  perl   none (no description available)
pn  perl-5.004 none (no description available)
pn  perl-5.004-bas none (no description available)
pn  perl-5.004-deb none (no description available)
pn  perl-5.004-doc none (no description available)
pn  perl-5.004-sui none (no description available)
ii  perl-5.005 5.005.03-4 Larry Wall's Practical Extracting and Report
ii  perl-5.005-bas 5.005.03-4 The Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish Lister
pn  perl-5.005-deb none (no description available)
ii  perl-5.005-doc 5.005.03-4 Man pages and pod docs for Perl
ii  perl-5.005-sui 5.005.03-4 Runs setuid Perl scripts.
pn  perl-5.005-thr none (no description available)
ii  perl-base  5.004.05-1 Fake package assuring that one of the -base 

I also just did apt-get update perl-base prior to this.  I'm a little
confused why perl-base is 5.004 instead of 5.005.  Initially I thought it
was an obsolete package, replaced by the perl-5.005.base one, but if I do a
dpkg --purge perl-base it won't let me, saying this package is essential.
Can anyone enlighten me on what's going on?

Thanks.

Confusedly yours,

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/dev/mem and /dev/kmem

2000-04-15 Thread Cameron Matheson
Hey,

I wasn't ever able to change resolutions during my x session (unless I
was in root), so I just gave up after a while.  I downloaded snes9x
recently, though, and it gives me warns me that: /dev/mem: permission
denied. I've already added myself to the kmem group, so I don't know
what else to do (besides changing permisions, but I wasn't sure if that
would be a good idea).  What can I do?

Thanks,
Cameron Matheson


Linux Network Problem.

2000-04-15 Thread Chen WC
Dear sir,

Good morning. I'm a Debian Linux new user and
currently I'm facing some problem with my network
connection. I followed the instruction from Linux
installation help,
(resc1440.bin,root.bin,base2_1.tgz,loadlin.exe,install).i'd
use the files (above) to install in my PC (Pentium II)
and type install , then step by step to configure the
Linux. After install , the network is unreachable. May
i know what is the problem and how to set up my
network for the PC so that my PC(Linux) can connect to
the other server (UNIX). I'm using utp cable and 3com
network card. 

Besides, I cannot use the 'man' help in Linux
after i had installed the Linux in my PC. What is the
file need to be copied or executed so that I can use
'man' command in Linux environment. Thank you for
help.


Linux User.

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Re: network oddity

2000-04-15 Thread David Karlin
On Sat, Apr 15, 2000 at 12:06:01AM +, Jim Breton wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 06:31:02PM -0600, David Karlin wrote:
  Hello,
  I have a slink box which has been running great.  It was up for over
  45 days without a hitch.
  
  The box does ipmasq-ing (among other tasks) for my lan, but when it
  is booted, it won't respond to a ping, telnet, ftp, or http request
  until I make a network connection _from_ that box (eg. ping another
  box on the lan, or make a PPP connection to my ISP).
  
  Anyone else had this happen?
 
 
 I've never had that happen... but I wonder if it might be a module that
 is being loaded on-demand by the box, in which case the box can't know
 that it's needed until one of the local processes needs that module.
 
 When you boot the machine, run lsmod and take a look at what modules are
 loaded before the networking starts to work.  Then perform some network
 operations and run lsmod again.  Are the lists different?

I ran lsmod before and after.  No change. :-/ 
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Re: need info for confused ISP

2000-04-15 Thread Pollywog

On 15-Apr-2000 04:26:22 George Bonser wrote:
 Why would you go with an NT ISP in the first place? I sure hope
 they don't
 have your credit card number :-o

Using NT doesn't make them crooks (just stupid?), but if they have
credit card numbers on one of the machines that runs a program that
has one of those MS backdoor passwords, those credit card numbers are
not safe.

--
Andrew



Re: need info for confused ISP

2000-04-15 Thread Pollywog

On 15-Apr-2000 04:26:22 George Bonser wrote:
 On Sat, 15 Apr 2000, Pollywog wrote:
 
 We e-mailed back and forth a few times and it came out that what
 they
 meant was that they don't know anything about Linux and that
 trying
 to run it would be a security risk because they don't know how to
 configure it.
 
 Point out that NT is a security risk even if you KNOW how to
 configure it
:) Because the source is closed, there could be any number of
:backdoors
 and potential exploits that only Microsoft and the bad guys know
 about.

You probably read about the backdoor in some MS products, a password
that some MS employees put in the software, which allows those people
to access servers and steal data from them.

 
 Why would you go with an NT ISP in the first place? I sure hope
 they don't
 have your credit card number :-o
No, I didn't.  They contacted me after reading a reply of mine to a
question asked on a mailing list.  They should have e-mailed the
original poster but they e-mailed me instead.

I did not have them host my domain precisely because they are an NT
ISP, but I did not tell them so until today.

--
Andrew


Re: Linux Network Problem.

2000-04-15 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 09:41:05PM -0700, Chen WC wrote:
 Dear sir,

They are a few madams on this mailing list as well (your mail got
forwared to debian-user@lists.debian.org, if you couldn't tell.).

 Good morning. I'm a Debian Linux new user and currently I'm facing
 some problem with my network connection. I followed the
 instruction from Linux installation help,
 (resc1440.bin,root.bin,base2_1.tgz,loadlin.exe,install).i'd use
 the files (above) to install in my PC (Pentium II) and type
 install , then step by step to configure the Linux. After install
 , the network is unreachable. May i know what is the problem and
 how to set up my network for the PC so that my PC(Linux) can
 connect to the other server (UNIX). I'm using utp cable and 3com
 network card. 

Can you be a little more specific about which 3com card?  Do you know if
it's an ISA or PCI card.  Some of the newer 3com cards require a driver
that you must download separately from 3com.  I'm guessing you got the
base system installed, but you didn't configure a network install
(otherwise your network would be configured already!).  

If you have an older 3com card, it may be you'll need to find the driver
that works for it and then specify some settings like IO and IRQ.  Please
respond to the list *only* with the exact model of your 3com card, then
someone can direct you appropriately.

 Besides, I cannot use the 'man' help in Linux after i had
 installed the Linux in my PC. What is the file need to be copied
 or executed so that I can use 'man' command in Linux environment.
 Thank you for help.

You do not have a fully functioning system yet.  Well, it functions, but
only the bare minimum of software is installed.  So, you don't have the
mandb package yet, and, hence, can't use 'man'.  The boot floppy install
is a two-part process.  First you install the base system, then you
reboot, select the packages (or tasks) you want to install, and then
install and configure them.

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