[Bug #60204] ibm-jdk1.1.8 package ?

[Michael A. Miller]

Brent Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes...

> After upgrading the potato distribution to the sources
> found on the server on 11 Mar 00, the following broke with
> the jdk1.1 (1.1.8v1-1) package:

> When issuing a command such as: jre -cp /usr/local/lib/cma.jar 
ovro.cma.rtd.Start

> I receive the error message:

>   Unable to initialize threads: cannot find class
>   java/lang/Thread Could not create Java VM 

> This did not occur until the latest jkd1.1 runtime update.

> Running java apps with the ibm-jdk1.1.8 package gets around
> this problem for now...

Can anyone provide a url for the ibm-jdk1.1.8 package?

Mike

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Re: Help -- Data recovery

[Martin Bishop]

Hi,

Thank you all for answering my plea for help. 

Special thanks go to Oswald B. and David W.. I took 
your sagely advice and I've managed to retrieve all 
of my data.

I was wrong in remembering that hda2 was a primary partition.
It was a logical partition. Changing between primary and
logical did not corrupt the data, to my relief.

Any way, thanks again for all your help guys. I couldn't have
done it without you.

MB.

Potato INSTALL on LAPTOP (NEC Versa 4050H): pcmcia modules unresolved

[Rick Macdonald]

Trying to install potato from scratch on a NEC Versa 4050H (P90MHz),
depmod reports unresolved symbols for all the pcmcia modules. I have
zircom and 3com pcmcia NICs, but I can't get the modules for either to
load because of this unresolved symbol problem. Without the NIC, I can't
get past the base install.

What can I do to fix this?

...RickM...

Re: OpenBSD Secure Shell

[Robert L. Harris]

A ctrl-C, then a re-install worked just fine.  

Thus spake Pollywog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> 
> On 20-Apr-2000 22:56:31 Jim McCloskey wrote:
> > 
> > When I did an upgrade against `froozen' today, the post-install
> > script
> > for OpenBSD Secure Shell hung. PS reports it as a zombie process.
> > The
> > last message to the console was:
> It stalled on me while installing, so I removed it and reinstalled
> the previous version.
> 
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RE: OpenBSD Secure Shell

[Pollywog]

On 20-Apr-2000 22:56:31 Jim McCloskey wrote:
> 
> When I did an upgrade against `froozen' today, the post-install
> script
> for OpenBSD Secure Shell hung. PS reports it as a zombie process.
> The
> last message to the console was:
It stalled on me while installing, so I removed it and reinstalled
the previous version.

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OpenBSD Secure Shell

[Jim McCloskey]

When I did an upgrade against `froozen' today, the post-install script
for OpenBSD Secure Shell hung. PS reports it as a zombie process. The
last message to the console was:

Unpacking replacement ssh ...
Setting up ssh (1.2.3-2) ...
Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server: sshd.

The server was not started. (I had answered NO when asked if I wanted the
server configured with the SUID bit set.)

I was able to fix things (I think---haven't tried it much yet)
by running dpkg --configure ssh ,

Jim McCloskey

Re: debian Linux O'Reilly book

[Philo Farnsworth]

Regarding this:

> > I am thinking of extending my O'Reilly library by buying
> > "Learning debian GNU / Linux". In your opinion, is that a good
> > thing to do when one is in my situation (not new to Linux, but
> > new to debian) and when one only has a dial-up at home?
> 
> I do recommend getting a CD for the first install.  Getting X over a
> phone line just sucks.  I've heard rumors that the O'reilly book has
> Debian 2.1+, as it is a mix between 2.1 and 2.2.  I could be mistaken
> though.  2.2 will be released "soon" (few months?) so there will be a
> bit of a change happening.  You might want to take that into
> consideration too.

I picked up the Sept printing of this book, and while I've heard
conflicting things about it, I strongly recommend you read the errata
on the O'Reilly web page about this book.  Here's the url:

http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/debian/errata/index.html

I personally can't seem to install the base system from this CD, though
that may be a hardware issue on my side.  I want to try installing the
OFFICIAL Debian 2.1 (not the hybrid that comes with the book), but I
haven't had the money to order a couple CDs (pathetically broke
student) nor have I had the time to try to download floppy images from
the T1 at work.  Hopefully this weekend I'll get a chance to do
that

The book itself isn't bad as far as I've gotten, and it covers a
broader range of topics than some of the other *complete* introductory
books (like Linux for Dummies), plus you have O'Reilly's good
reputation behind it.  But the book appears to have been written for
2.1 Slink, not the 2.1+ hybrid with which it is packaged.

Hope this helps,

Erik

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RE: where do all the *.deb files go?

[Simon Law]

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> When I've removed packages (with dpkg --remove packagename) and 
> even purged (with dpkg --purge
> packagename), I've noticed that I have been able to get 
> everything back (via apt-get install
> packagename) without apparently going back into the ftp site 
> designated in sources.list. My
> question is, are the original *.deb files stored somewhere on my 
> hard drive, and if so, in which
> directory. If the original *.deb files are not kept, then how 
> does apt-get "rescue" the package?
> 
> Not only am I curious, but if the *.deb files are kept somewhere, 
> I would like to back them up,
> since it takes a long time to rebuild my system on my old 33.6 b
> modem!  

Sure.  They happen to be residing in /var/cache/apt/ where they will
happily sit until you say apt-get clean .

Hope this helps.

Simon

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Re: debian Linux

[Marshal Kar-Cheung Wong]

> "Sven" == Sven Burgener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello debian freaks out there!  I am not totally new to
> Linux. Have set up run web, mail, dns servers on linux. Also
> done some work with things like shell / awk and nice tools of
> that kind. I've been using the suse distro during all that
> time. I dont have much experience on other distros, but I heard
> about debian and about how nice it is.

> That's exactly my question: what's the _major_ advantage of
> using debian over using any other distro and adjusting that
> other distro to your needs?

For me, the major advatange of the debian was the dpkg/apt/dselect
package management system.  After playing with Redhat and RPMS for a
while, i switched to debian and never looked back.  With things like
Depends:, Suggests:, Recommends:, Conficts:, etc. package management
is easy.  It's better that searching the web for so and so RPM that
you want to run.  Try to install it, but it needs so and so RPM, which
you have an older or newer version, and you just have to muck around
to much.  (Which is not always a bad thing, but sometimes, it's just
unnessecary.)

This leads to a the distribution method.  I find upgradeing with apt
so much easier than say upgradeing with RPMS.  I don't know how the
other distibutions work now, but with debian you just point you
sources list and the nearest mirror, and say 'apt-get upgrade', wait,
and everything will be done for you, usually.  And for fixes, and
stuff, I've never had to wait more than a week for dependance fixes.
And if there are dependancy problems, apt will usually put the upgrade
on hold until things are fixed up.  Incremental upgrades are easy with
debian, and you don't have to wait for the next release to try out the
newest and greatest.  I remember when I was working with RedHat.
Trying to get onto the rawhide server was almost impossible, and they
were in the middle of the glibc 2.0/2.1 switch, so I couldn't run
anything anyways.

There is also the gazillion packages that debian has.  This wonderful
mailing list for help.  Dedication to free (as in speech) software.
There's probably more, but these are the ones I can think of.

> I am thinking of extending my O'Reilly library by buying
> "Learning debian GNU / Linux". In your opinion, is that a good
> thing to do when one is in my situation (not new to Linux, but
> new to debian) and when one only has a dial-up at home?

I do recommend getting a CD for the first install.  Getting X over a
phone line just sucks.  I've heard rumors that the O'reilly book has
Debian 2.1+, as it is a mix between 2.1 and 2.2.  I could be mistaken
though.  2.2 will be released "soon" (few months?) so there will be a
bit of a change happening.  You might want to take that into
consideration too.

G'luck!

Marshal

> Thanks for answers in advance!  S. Burgener


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need hp filter for gramofile

[Kenneth Scharf]

I wonder if there is a graphic-equalizer program that
can be used ahead of gramofile to treble cut, (or
better yet band cut) a nasty whine I have on a tape
that I want to convert to mp3.  The problem appears to
be from the fm pilot carier mixing with the recorder's
bias oscilator producing a high pitch whine.  Maybe It
can also be filtered out digitally from the resulting
wav or mp3 file.

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Re: What time is it?

[jpb]

kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> 24 4,10,16,22  * * *root /usr/sbin/ntpdate ntp.css.gov 1>/dev/null
> 
> ...in your /etc/crontab file is a hell of a lot cooler.

Cooler still is to install and run xntp.  It will figure out for itself
how often to check the time (you can configure it to consult multiple
time servers) and also keep track of how badly your system clock tends
to drift and do periodic mini adjustments to the clock.

And you can synchronize the other machines on your network to the one
timekeeper machine, which is politer to the people running the network
servers.

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Re: connect to Internet via cable modem

[Bob Hilliard]

Matthew Quigley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
 
> Any thought on how I can do this?  Any packages out there to do this?
 
 1.  Read /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/mini/Cable-Modem.txt.gz (from
the Package: doc-linux-text package.

 2.  Get and install an ethernet card (often the cable ISP will
provide this) and compile a kernel with support for this card.

 3.  Install the dhcp-client package.  (This worked for me - some
people recommend the pump package as an alternate.)

 4.  Have the cable provider make the installation, which usually
includes providing and installing a cable modem.

 In my case (with Adelphia Power Link) that was all.  I did not
have to configure dhcp-client at all.  YMMV :-)

 Most cable providers installers and tech-support people don't
know anything about Linux.  You have to tell them that you can handle
it all after they get the cable modem properly hooked up and working.

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Netscape 6 & Time Problems

[Dan Hutchinson]

I know this was answered previous back some time but I have downloaded
netscape preview 6 Release 1.  I wish to install it on a Debian Potato
PC but am not sure what the structure is for packages.  I have the following
questions.

1. Where do I do a tar -xvvzf netscape6 so that I can run Netscape with
a command netscape instead of having to type the path.

2. When I first tried to run netscape it produced a lib.. file not found,
does anyone know of the patch to apply to netscape inorder for it to
run in X windows.

3. Unrelated, How do you change the system time.  My time says 11:56
am when it is 5:02 PM on the East Coast of the USA here.

Thanks for you help in advance

Dan

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Re: Newbie Questions

[kmself]

On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 02:20:31PM -0500, Irish, Jon D wrote:

Paragraphs are good, Jon.

> I have never used any version of Unix in the past, let alone Linux. I
> have been playing with Slink on a PC at work, and I would now like to
> install it at home.

Hooray!

> The problem is that my machine at work has a bootable ATAPI CD-ROM drive,
> so I could install right off of the CD. My machine at home has a LVD
> Ultra SCSI hard drive connected to an Initio SPEEDWAY U2W INI-A100U2W
> PCI-Ultra2 SCSI Bus Master Host Adapter, and my CD-ROM drive is a SONY
> DVD (5th generation) drive with an IDE interface.

Are you sure your home box doesn't support a bootable CDROM?  Have you
checked the BIOS settings for boot order?

> I know I am going to have to load from floppies, but how do I do
> this. Also, the Initio site only has drivers listed for Red Hat, Caldera,
> BSD, and a category called patches& clean up drivers. Will one of these
> drivers work with Debian?

There is an excellent installation guide, including the floppy
installation method, at the Debian website: http://www.debian.org/ :
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install

> Lastly, I need a good book that goes into detail on how to do everything
> (ie installing a nic, a modem, compile Kernels, setup email, etc.) I
> had heard that there was going to be a "Debian GNU/Linux for Dummies"
> book published, but IDG claims they don't know anything about it.

I would recommend instead O'Reilly's _Learning Debian GNU/Linux_,
which you can preview (or read) online at http://www.ora.com/
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/debian/

My "starter pack" recommendation for Debian GNU/Linux is the above, plus
_Linux in a Nutshell_ and _Running Linux_, all from O'Reilly.  After
that, pick up what you want according to your further interests --
programming, networking, other tools, etc.  O'Reilly's books are almost
always worth the dead tree karma.  I can't say this for others.

> Sincerely,
> Jon D. Irish
> Jon D. Irish
> Technical Lead - Patriot Project Office

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Re: New (to Debian) user with some (what else?) questions

[montefin]

Maury,

I'm a new crossover from RH to Debian, too. While I'm not qualified to
answer much about Debian, I have been using Zope in RH for
about a year and like it fine, so I'll pick up that part of your thread.

Zope is a very nice Application Server put out by,
of course,. the zope.org

http://www.zope.org/

It was my first real intro to OOP in action and a good one.
However, I don't know much about it's internals.
It's one of those rare pieces of middleware that
you just put in place and it does what it says it does
so seamlessly you just don't tinker with it.
I use it to manage and mediate one of the entryways
into my websites.

Take a peek at it. I'm sure it's grown vastly,
but my initial install just keeps doing what I want
it to do that I haven't even looked at it in over
six months.

Regards,

montefin

Maury Merkin wrote:

> [2]  Somewhere along in the installation process, I was confronted
with
> a series of questions regarding something called "Zope" (I think it
> was).  I have no idea what Zope is or does.  And I simply left all of
> the fields (having to do with log-on and passwords and such) blank.
> Please, someone tell me where to find information about Zope, such as:

> what is it?  where do I go back now and (re-)configure it properly (if

> necessary).
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Re: New (to Debian) user with some (what else?) questions

[GECOS]

Maury Merkin wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> New user here. 
> [2]  Somewhere along in the installation process, I was confronted with
> a series of questions regarding something called "Zope" (I think it
> was).  I have no idea what Zope is or does.  And I simply left all of
> the fields (having to do with log-on and passwords and such) blank.
> Please, someone tell me where to find information about Zope, such as:
> what is it?  where do I go back now and (re-)configure it properly (if
> necessary).
> 
Zope is a humungus webserver package.  It installs into a 2gig
"package"  If your not using it, I'd suggest removing it.  www.zope.org
is the place to check it out.

Re: What time is it?

[kmself]

On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 03:44:21PM +0200, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
> > Hi to all,
> > How can I set by hand (without frontend) the system time?
> date -s HHMM (see man date)
> to make it persistent: hwclock --systohc

...but 

24 4,10,16,22  * * *root /usr/sbin/ntpdate ntp.css.gov 1>/dev/null

...in your /etc/crontab file is a hell of a lot cooler.

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Re: Mounting ext2 from win98

[Gary Hennigan]

David Henningsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >You mean you can also mount the ext2 filesystem from the Win98 OS?
> >How? I thought this would not be possible?
> 
> There is a read-only utility I got from a guy at irc.debian.org. So I don't
> know where on the web it is. The zip file was called fsdext2.zip.

This was posted on the list some time ago. I haven't tried it but it
looks pretty spiffy.

  http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/Explore2fs.htm

Gary

Re: New (to Debian) user with some (what else?) questions

[kmself]

On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 11:55:16AM -0400, Maury Merkin wrote:
> Hi,

> But I'm only new to Debian.  I've been using Linux since late 1994.
> Started with Slackware and somewhere along the way switched to RH.

There was much rejoicing...

> Anyway, I installed Debian (potato) this am and all went pretty well.
> Except:
> 
> [1]  My user (i.e. not "root") does not have permission to start X.  I
> have no idea which file(s) is/are actually forbidden to me and, before I
> start groping around and resetting permissions helter skelter, I was
> wondering if anyone here might tell me the canonical way to do this
> under Debian.

/etc/X11/Xserver

Defaults -- you can usually start X from console but not from a running X
session.  This is a Good Thing in a networked environment.

> [2]  Somewhere along in the installation process, I was confronted with
> a series of questions regarding something called "Zope" (I think it
> was).  I have no idea what Zope is or does.  And I simply left all of
> the fields (having to do with log-on and passwords and such) blank.
> Please, someone tell me where to find information about Zope, such as:
> what is it?  where do I go back now and (re-)configure it properly (if
> necessary).

http://www.zope.org/

It's a Python-based web application server.  Technocrat.net
(http://www.technocrat.net/) is built using it.

> [3]  What command will I use to dial-in to my ISP?  Ditto for hang up?
> How do I set it up so that my user (again, not "root") can dial and
> disconnect?

/usr/bin/pon
/usr/bin/poff
/usr/sbin/pppconfig


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Mounting ext2 from win98

[David Henningsson]

>You mean you can also mount the ext2 filesystem from the Win98 OS?
>How? I thought this would not be possible?

There is a read-only utility I got from a guy at irc.debian.org. So I don't
know where on the web it is. The zip file was called fsdext2.zip.

/ David

screen in blocking mode.

[Robert L. Harris]

I just did a dist-upgrade.  I BELIEVE my version of screen has changed 
or something.  At any rate, it seems that screen is running in some
form of "blocking" mode.  If I do an "ls -la" in a large dir, it prints
out about 20 lines and waits for me to hit enter before it continues.
SSH was upgraded, but I don't see this behavior unless I'm running 
screen on the machine I'm ssh'ing to.  

Help


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Re: connect to Internet via cable modem

[Brian J. Stults]

Matthew Quigley wrote:
> 
> Any thought on how I can do this?  Any packages out there to do this?
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Try the Cable-Modem mini HOWTO.

http://www.oswg.org/oswg-nightly/Cable-Modem.html

You'll probably need a dhcp client like dhcpcd.  I use rr in Albany, NY
and it was pretty easy to set up.  Here are some other links to check
out:

http://www.fammed.ohio-state.edu/shane/rr/c2c/
http://www.hoku.net/projects/rrhowto/RoadRunner-Hawaii-HOWTO.html
http://people.qualcomm.com/karn/rr/

Or, in any search engine type something like this:

+roadrunner +linux +kansas

Beware, rr is not the same everywhere.  For example, in Albany we do not
have to login to rr but I think some places still do.

Good luck.
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debian Linux

[Sven Burgener]

Hello debian freaks out there!

I am not totally new to Linux. Have set up run web, mail, dns servers on linux. 
Also done some work with things like shell / awk and nice tools of that kind. 
I've been using the suse distro during all that time. I dont have much 
experience on other distros, but I heard about debian and about how nice it is.

That's exactly my question: what's the _major_ advantage of using debian over 
using any other distro and adjusting that other distro to your needs?

I am thinking of extending my O'Reilly library by buying "Learning debian GNU / 
Linux". In your opinion, is that a good thing to do when one is in my situation 
(not new to Linux, but new to debian) and when one only has a dial-up at home?

Thanks for answers in advance!
S. Burgener

Re: IMAP

[Eric Gillespie, Jr.]

On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 09:44:14AM -0700,
Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   I have to install an IMAP Server in a client. Can anyone
> recommends an IMAP server ammong Debian packages?

I'm just learning about IMAP myself. I'd recommend courier-imap
as long as you don't plan to use mutt with it. mutt seems to have
problems talking to courier-imap, but no problems talking to UW
imap. I've already filed bug reports. Courier-imap is smaller and
faster than UW imap and it supports Maildir (UW imap also
supports Maildir, but this is patched into the debian version,
whereas courier was designed specifically for Maildir).

>   Can anyone tell more or less what to do after installing
> this package. I dont know anything about IMAP (yet).

IMAP works great out of the box with either of these packages!
With courier-imap, each user will have to run 'maildirmake
Maildir' to create their INBOX, but that's it! Both packages come
with good documentation.

>   Currently I use Exim.

Both imap daemons i mentioned work well with Exim (that's what
i'm using).

P.S. Please wrap lines at 65 columns.

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Is there support for my hardware?

[Jeroen Cranendonk]

I'm thinking about using Debian, but I have just 
one 'problem': is there support for the Diamond Stealth III S540 graphics card 
(with Savage4 chipset)? Or do I need an additional program or 
anything?

Re: connect to Internet via cable modem

[Carl Fink]

On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 01:17:53PM -0500, Matthew Quigley wrote:
> Any thought on how I can do this?  Any packages out there to do this?

You need to be more specific, since there are several flavors of
cable connection.  For my own connection to Optimum Online, I
followed the following steps:

1)Installed my Ethernet card (3C905).
2)Bought a cable "modem".
3)Plugged the patch cable from the Ethernet card
  into the cable modem.
4)Installed the pump package with "apt-get install pump".
4)Ran "pump -i".

That's it.

You might read the "Cable Modem HOWTO".
-- 
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Manager, Dueling Modems Computer Forum

Newbie Questions

[Irish, Jon D]

I have never 
used any version of Unix in the past, let alone Linux. I have been playing with 
Slink on a PC at work, and I would now like to install it at home. The problem 
is that my machine at work has a bootable ATAPI CD-ROM drive, so I could install 
right off of the CD. My machine at home has a LVD Ultra SCSI hard drive 
connected to an Initio SPEEDWAY U2W 
INI-A100U2W PCI-Ultra2 SCSI 
Bus Master Host Adapter, and my CD-ROM drive is a SONY DVD (5th generation) 
drive with an IDE interface. I know I am going to have to load from floppies, 
but how do I do this. Also, the Initio site only has drivers listed for Red Hat, 
Caldera, BSD, and a category called patches& clean up drivers. Will one of 
these drivers work with Debian? Lastly, I need a good book that goes into detail 
on how to do everything (ie installing a nic, a modem, compile Kernels, setup 
email, etc.) I had heard that there was going to be a "Debian GNU/Linux for 
Dummies" book published, but IDG claims they don't know anything about 
it.
 
Sincerely,
Jon D. Irish
Jon D. Irish
Technical Lead - Patriot Project 
Office
 

Re: New (to Debian) user with some (what else?) questions

[Peter Palfrader]

Hi Marshal!

On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Marshal Kar-Cheung Wong wrote:

> > "Maury" == Maury Merkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > [1] My user (i.e. not "root") does not have permission to start
> > X.  I have no idea which file(s) is/are actually forbidden to me
> > and, before I start groping around and resetting permissions
> > helter skelter, I was wondering if anyone here might tell me the
> > canonical way to do this under Debian.
> 
> This is a problem that seems to pop up randomly on various systems and
> I've never been able to figure it out except by reinstalling X.  It's
> kinda odd...

hmm. Check your /etc/X11/Xserver file. It should look like this:

>>>
/usr/bin/X11/XF86_SVGA
Console

The first line in this file is the full pathname of the default X server.
The second line shows who is allowed to run the X server:
RootOnly
Console  (anyone whose controlling tty is on the console)
Anybody


Note that line numbers 1 and 2 are hardcoded.

yours,
peter

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connect to Internet via cable modem

[Matthew Quigley]

Any thought on how I can do this?  Any packages out there to do this?

RE: STUFF to order

[Christian Pernegger]

I just love my G400 MAX. Splendid 2D (and 3D, even)

Seems to be near perfectly supported, but you'd need to update slink's
XFree86.

Before that, I had a G200, which is nice except for its 3D performance. Yes,
I'm a Matrox fan :)

I don't know about the ATIs, however the Voodoo is a pure gamers card. Do you
need/want that?

Christian


> -Original Message-
> From: Jaye Inabnit ke6sls [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 9:52 PM
> To: debian help
> Subject: STUFF to order
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I have the order all ready except for a Video card for my linux
> box. Of these
> which is good and will have decent drivers avail? My system is a 450pIII
> intel with 128MB Ram. I'm running Slink and 2.2.14.
>
> STB 3000 Voodoo3 16m AGP W/TV
> ATI All in Wonder Pro 8M AGP
> ATI Rage Fury 32 MEG AGP
> ATI Rage Fury 32 MEG AGP W/TV
>
> PS - I run X and use KDE and would basically like the least trouble and
> better performance then I currently have with a trident AGP card.

Re: crypto patch

[Marshal Kar-Cheung Wong]

> "Michael" == Michael O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hola~ Rookie question here. I'm trying to setup an encrypted
> filesystem as per:

>
> http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Loopback-Encrypted-Filesystem-HOWTO-3.html

> The first step is installing the latest crypto patch. How do I
> install the "latest crypto patch" using apt-get?

you have to get the international kernal patch from either
www.kerneli.org, or in the non-US section.  Then you have to patch the
kernel and recompile.

Marshal

> My sources.list include:

> deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib
> non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US
> unstable/non-US main contrib non-free deb
> http://security.debian.org stable updates

> deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib
> non-free deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US
> unstable/non-US main contrib non-free deb-src
> http://security.debian.org stable updates

> MO



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RE: Kernel engineering

[Jason Mackay]

If there is anyone that knows of kernel engineers looking for a new career, 
please let me know. 

Jason Mackay
Sr. IT Consultant
MIS Consultants
416-489-4334 ext. 234
Toll free 1-800-311-2828
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Re: New (to Debian) user with some (what else?) questions

[John Hasler]

Pollywog writes:
> Make sure you add your nameserver IP addresses to /etc/resolv.conf like
> so:

> search yourdomain.com
> nameserver ns.ip.add.ress

Pppconfig takes care of this unless you've already put some nameservers in
(and the 'search' line is unnecessary).
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Elmwood, WI

Re: New (to Debian) user with some (what else?) questions

[John Hasler]

Marshal writes:
> use pppconfig to setup your ISP information.  Then to allow yourselfto
> dial out, add yourself to group dip.

He's using potato: he can do that in the advanced menu in pppconfig.
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Elmwood, Wisconsin

Re: crypto patch

[Gary Hennigan]

"Michael O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Rookie question here. I'm trying to setup an encrypted filesystem as per:
> 
> http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Loopback-Encrypted-Filesystem-HOWTO-3.html
> 
> The first step is installing the latest crypto patch. How do I install the
> "latest crypto patch" using apt-get?
[snip]

You probably don't. The only chance you have is that the Debian kernel
source already contains the patch, otherwise you'll have to get the
patch yourself and either apply it to a Debian kernel-source package,
or download the raw kernel source from someplace like ftp.kernel.org
and apply the patch to that.

If you have to compile a new kernel be sure to check out the
Debian kernel-package package. Nice utility!

Gary

crypto patch

[Michael O'Brien]

Hola~

Rookie question here. I'm trying to setup an encrypted filesystem as per:

http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Loopback-Encrypted-Filesystem-HOWTO-3.html

The first step is installing the latest crypto patch. How do I install the
"latest crypto patch" using apt-get?

My sources.list include:

deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib
non-free
deb http://security.debian.org stable updates

deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib
non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org stable updates

MO

Help with Bounce Queue

[Kent West]

I'm having a hard time figuring out how a bounce
queue should work.

Here's my goal:

When I print something to a certain print queue, I
want the document to be printed and to be mailed.
Normal printing is filtered through the standard
HPLJ4 magicfilter, and from there gets sent to the
remote printer.

When I want hardcopy and email, I print to a
second queue, that runs a "mailit" filter (a perl
script) that should send the printed material to
an email, and that should then bounce the printed
material to the normal queue as mentioned above.

If I manually run the "mailit" filter, the prompt
sits there, where I can type something, like "This
is a test", and then hit Ctrl-D. The mailit filter
ends, returning me to a normal prompt, and then
I can check my mail and there's the message.
Perfect.

However, whenever I print to the second queue, I
get the printout, but it never generates the email
message. Can anyone help me figure out what I'm
doing wrong?

Here's my printcap:
#
# Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of
California.
# All rights reserved.
#
# Redistribution and use in source and binary
forms are permitted
# provided that this notice is preserved and that
due credit is given
# to the University of California at Berkeley. The
name of the University
# may not be used to endorse or promote products
derived from this
# software without specific prior written
permission. This software
# is provided ``as is'' without express or implied
warranty.
#
# @(#)etc.printcap 5.2 (Berkeley) 5/5/88
#
# This file was generated by
/usr/sbin/magicfilterconfig.
#
lp|HP LaserJet III (local LPT1):\
 :lp=/dev/lp0:\
 :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
 :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\
 :if=/etc/magicfilter/ljet4-filter:\
# :of=/etc/magicfilter/mailit:\
 :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:

bounce:\
 :lp=:\
 :[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\
 :if=/etc/magicfilter/mailit:\
 :sd=/var/spool/lpd/bounce:


And here's my "mailit" filter:
#! /usr/bin/perl
$recipient = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]";
$subject = "Your Printout, Sir";
$mailprog = "mail";

open (MAIL, "|$mailprog -s \'$subject\'
$recipient");
print MAIL "- Here's your printout, Sir\n\n";

while () {
  print MAIL $_;
}

print MAIL "\n- That's all, Folks!\n";

close MAIL;


Thanks for any help!

RE: New (to Debian) user with some (what else?) questions

[Pollywog]

On 20-Apr-2000 15:55:16 Maury Merkin wrote:
> 
> [3]  What command will I use to dial-in to my ISP?  Ditto for hang
> up?
> How do I set it up so that my user (again, not "root") can dial and
> disconnect?
> 
> I s'pose that's it for the moment.  Any assistance will be
> graciously
> appreciated.

Install pppd and pppconfig Debian packages.  Make sure to put that
authorized non-root user in the "dip" group in /etc/group like this:

dip:x:30:username1:username2

the username is their login name.

You can dial in to your ISP with "pon" and off with "poff"
Make sure you add your nameserver IP addresses to /etc/resolv.conf
like so:

search yourdomain.com
nameserver ns.ip.add.ress


--
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All-in-one fax/printer/scanner compatibility

[Bill White]

Does anybody have any experience with any of the all-in-one fax/printer/scanner
devices?  They all say they require Windows 9X or NT, but is it possible to
use them through Linux some way?  I would guess that if they are Mac and 
Windows
compatible, they either are or could be made to be Linux compatible as well.
If they are only Windows compatible they may depend on GDI for some 
computation,
which may make them useless.

If there is not an existing painless solution, does anybody have any experience
with getting technical specifications from Epson, Brother, HP or any of the
other vendors who make these kinds of boxes?  I haven't called them up
yet, but perhaps it's well known that one of them is hostile to Linux.

It's kind of sad when your primary questions are these administrative concerns,
and not "How well does it work?"

Re: New (to Debian) user with some (what else?) questions

[Marshal Kar-Cheung Wong]

> "Maury" == Maury Merkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi, New user here.  With, no doubt, a few questions you might
> have already answered forty-four hundred times this week

> Hey.  What else are new users good for?

> But I'm only new to Debian.  I've been using Linux since late
> 1994.  Started with Slackware and somewhere along the way
> switched to RH.

> Anyway, I installed Debian (potato) this am and all went pretty
> well.  Except:

> [1] My user (i.e. not "root") does not have permission to start
> X.  I have no idea which file(s) is/are actually forbidden to me
> and, before I start groping around and resetting permissions
> helter skelter, I was wondering if anyone here might tell me the
> canonical way to do this under Debian.

This is a problem that seems to pop up randomly on various systems and
I've never been able to figure it out except by reinstalling X.  It's
kinda odd...

> [2] Somewhere along in the installation process, I was
> confronted with a series of questions regarding something called
> "Zope" (I think it was).  I have no idea what Zope is or does.
> And I simply left all of the fields (having to do with log-on
> and passwords and such) blank.  Please, someone tell me where to
> find information about Zope, such as: what is it?  where do I go
> back now and (re-)configure it properly (if necessary).

> Last question is anticipatory.  I'm used (as I mentioned before)
> to the RH way of doing things, in the instant case, handling my
> ppp dial-up account.  At first I fought it hard, but then
> decided to try to do things RH's way and, lo! and behold!,
> everything worked pretty well.  But now I'm gonna be using
> Debian, and I'd like to learn the Debian way.  So,

> [3] What command will I use to dial-in to my ISP?  Ditto for
> hang up?  How do I set it up so that my user (again, not "root")
> can dial and disconnect?

use pppconfig to setup your ISP information.  Then to allow yourselfto
dial out, add yourself to group dip.  then you can just use the
commands pon, and poff to start and stop you connection, respectively.

Enjoy.  I came from RedHat too.  Debian is much, much nicer, in my
opinion.

Marshal

> I s'pose that's it for the moment.  Any assistance will be
> graciously appreciated.

> Maury




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Re: New (to Debian) user with some (what else?) questions

[Peter Palfrader]

Hi Maury!

On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Maury Merkin wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> [1]  My user (i.e. not "root") does not have permission to start X.

Is X already running, i.e. the xdm on VC 7?


> [3]  What command will I use to dial-in to my ISP?  Ditto for hang up?
> How do I set it up so that my user (again, not "root") can dial and
> disconnect?

In order:
pon [providername]
poff [providername]
adduser maury dip

To configure things use pppconf or pppconfig, I don't remember :)

HTH

yours,
peter

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New (to Debian) user with some (what else?) questions

[Maury Merkin]

Hi,

New user here.  With, no doubt, a few questions you might have already
answered forty-four hundred times this week

Hey.  What else are new users good for?

But I'm only new to Debian.  I've been using Linux since late 1994.
Started with Slackware and somewhere along the way switched to RH.

Anyway, I installed Debian (potato) this am and all went pretty well.
Except:

[1]  My user (i.e. not "root") does not have permission to start X.  I
have no idea which file(s) is/are actually forbidden to me and, before I
start groping around and resetting permissions helter skelter, I was
wondering if anyone here might tell me the canonical way to do this
under Debian.

[2]  Somewhere along in the installation process, I was confronted with
a series of questions regarding something called "Zope" (I think it
was).  I have no idea what Zope is or does.  And I simply left all of
the fields (having to do with log-on and passwords and such) blank.
Please, someone tell me where to find information about Zope, such as:
what is it?  where do I go back now and (re-)configure it properly (if
necessary).

Last question is anticipatory.  I'm used (as I mentioned before) to the
RH way of doing things, in the instant case, handling my ppp dial-up
account.  At first I fought it hard, but then decided to try to do
things RH's way and, lo! and behold!, everything worked pretty well.
But now I'm gonna be using Debian, and I'd like to learn the Debian
way.   So,

[3]  What command will I use to dial-in to my ISP?  Ditto for hang up?
How do I set it up so that my user (again, not "root") can dial and
disconnect?

I s'pose that's it for the moment.  Any assistance will be graciously
appreciated.

Maury

Re: Console problems...

[Troy Telford]

Just wanted to say that is EXACTLY what I needed!  Thanks.  What happened
was my /etc/syslog.conf file was missing... somehow.  I have a friend with
the same version of Debian, so I just copied his over - and without editing
*poof* everything worked fine!

Of course, I will at least look through it to make sure everything is good...

Thanks!

Troy
  Telford

Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:

> > not being written - in fact, the log messages are displayed to the text
> > console... for instance, when I log into a regular text-console (non-X),
> >
> is /etc/syslog.conf setup correctly? there you define where to log to.
> i don't know, how on debian, but suse logs to /var/log/messages - without
> any .0 - this sounds like a rotated older log.
> the log file must exist. syslogd won't create a new one, if none
> exists. "touch" it, if it's not there.
>
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Re: Mitsumi CR-2801TE under debian - stopped working after firmware upgrade :-(

[Robert Waldner]

If you look around http://ftpsearch.ntnu.no for variations of the firmwares
filename, you'll stumble across older versions. I had to do this myself
but didn't keep the older firmware-file...

hth,
&rw

On Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:19:09 +0200, Wojciech Zabolotny writes:
>Hi All,
>
>I've used successfully for ca. two years the Mitsumi CR-2801TE.
>Unfortunately, one of my students "upgraded" the drive's firmware to the 
>1.10 version, and now it stopped to work with Linux.
>I've downloaded and compiledd the newest cdrecord, but it didn't help.
>Does anybody faced and solved the similar problem?
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>   TIA
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Re: What time is it?

[Oswald Buddenhagen]

> Hi to all,
>   How can I set by hand (without frontend) the system time?
date -s HHMM (see man date)
to make it persistent: hwclock --systohc

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What time is it?

[Maurizio Boriani]

Hi to all,
How can I set by hand (without frontend) the system time?

Thack a lot in advance
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Re: floppy install problems

[Tom Anzalone]

Kenneth,

Unfortunately I am unable to transfer drives due to the nature of the 
the hardware.  I may try to transfer the disks to the partitioned drive 
though like you mentioned.  I think I can get to the command line  
by hitting Alt+F4.  Thanks for your help.

Tom

Date sent:  Wed, 19 Apr 2000 17:14:53 -0700 (PDT)
From:   Kenneth Scharf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject:floppy install problems
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Copies to:  debian-user@lists.debian.org

> 
> You might try coping the files to floppies that have
> been formated on the target machine's drive.  Or
> transfer the target machine's floppy drive to the
> machine doing the copying and then move it back to the
> tarket machine.  Methinks floppy interchange may be a
> problem.
> 
> 
> To all,
> 
> I have tried to install Debian from floppy disks
> several times on an 
> old IBM 486 ps2 machine.  The machine boots fine with
> the rescue 
> disk fine.  The point at which the install fails is
> during the mounting 
> of the rescue disk to continue with the base install. 
> I have made 
> several new rescue floppys thinking it may be the
> media.  I have 
> only chosen to install from floppy because the machine
> has no 
> cdrom and only one isa slot for expansion. It does
> have a 300 mb 
> hard and 8 mb of ram.  Thanks for any help in advance.
> 
> 
> 
> =
> Amateur Radio, when all else fails!
> 
> http://www.qsl.net/wa2mze
> 
> Debian Gnu Linux, Live Free or .
> 
> 
> 
> __
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites.
> http://invites.yahoo.com
> 

Mitsumi CR-2801TE under debian - stopped working after firmware upgrade :-(

[Wojciech Zabolotny]

Hi All,

I've used successfully for ca. two years the Mitsumi CR-2801TE.
Unfortunately, one of my students "upgraded" the drive's firmware to the 
1.10 version, and now it stopped to work with Linux.
I've downloaded and compiledd the newest cdrecord, but it didn't help.
Does anybody faced and solved the similar problem?
-- 
TIA
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http://www.ise.pw.edu.pl/~wzab  <--> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Console problems...

[Oswald Buddenhagen]

> not being written - in fact, the log messages are displayed to the text
> console... for instance, when I log into a regular text-console (non-X),
> 
is /etc/syslog.conf setup correctly? there you define where to log to.
i don't know, how on debian, but suse logs to /var/log/messages - without
any .0 - this sounds like a rotated older log.
the log file must exist. syslogd won't create a new one, if none
exists. "touch" it, if it's not there.

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Re: Help -- Data recovery

[Oswald Buddenhagen]

> Ok so far, I've only recreated a primary partition and that doesn't
> seem to work. I guess I'll try setting it as a logical partition and
> see if it restores things back to normal.
> 
> A quick question. If the partition was originally a primary partition,
> and now I'm setting as a logical partition, would it screw up the data
> beyond repair?
> 
ehhmmm ... yes - you would screw up exactly one sector. i cannot tell you,
if you will destroy important data. probably you'd shoot at the fat.
if you are sure, that it was hda2 and not hda5, then it WAS a primary
partition and you needn't to try to make it logical.

> As you can see, all I care about now is to get the data out of that
> partition, and I'm a little nervous about trying things that could
> further corrupt the data on it.
> 
yes ... one last idea: take a program, which can show you a hex-dump of
the hda2 block device (eg, mc or some disk editor) and search for a boot
sector (first byte 0xeb, second something around 0x38-0x50, third 0x90,
then a signature like "MSWIN4.1"). then re-create this partition, so that
it begins exactly at this sector (will be at sector 1, possibly head 0).

if everything else fails, then find a colleague, wich has deeper knowledge
of fat32 internals (possibly the 15-year old son of some friend? :-)).

the last resort is a professional recovery ... but it's ruinously
expensive (i've heard) ...

good luck!

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Re: Help -- Data recovery

[David Wright]

Quoting Martin Bishop ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> So to answer your question, yes I did run 'dos fdisk' but I did not 
> modify/change anything when I quit.

That's good. DOS invariably (I think) forces you to reboot if you
make changes because its idea of how to label the partitions is
so bizarre, so a minor change can trigger a completely new scheme.

I think there's a FDISK /STATUS or something to save you a few
keystrokes and having to take care.

> Hmmm, now that you've brought this point up, I can't remember if I
> used 'dos fdisk' or 'linux (c)fdisk' to create the partition on hda.

I must admit that I don't know if the zeroing carried out by
dos has any effect on linux's ability to mount it.

> Ok so far, I've only recreated a primary partition and that doesn't
> seem to work. I guess I'll try setting it as a logical partition and
> see if it restores things back to normal.
> 
> A quick question. If the partition was originally a primary partition,
> and now I'm setting as a logical partition, would it screw up the data
> beyond repair?

Yes, I think making partitions logical would screw things up.
The extended partition and *every* logical partition has a partition
table at its start, whereas primary ones don't. (Why this overkill,
I'm not sure.) So I presume you'd mess up the start of your FAT.

> If I understand you correctly, the size that I specify is the block
> ending from hda1 all the way to the max size of the disk. This is
> because I only have two partition on this drive, and I haven't deleted
> or changed hda1.

I think you'll find that it's only important to get the starting
position right anyway. If you're mounting it readonly, a too-large
partition would just enable you to "see" the next partition (though
no correct pointers would point in there).

This is all confirming my prejudices against extended and
logical partitions (being about to carve up a 10GB disk). Every time
you create one of these, you write over a portion of the disk.
Primary partitions carry no such baggage with them.

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Re: rebooting as user

[Oswald Buddenhagen]

> Wouldn't this be possible using sudo? I'd say this is exactly meant
> to give specific users access to specific super user level commands.
> Give your wife permission to "sudo halt" or "sudo reboot" and the only
> thing she'll need to know is her own password. 
> 
note: you can tell sudo not to request a password. ;-)

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Re: Help -- Data recovery

[David Wright]

Quoting Martin Bishop ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Hi David,
> 
> Thanks for replying.
> 
> David Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I don't have the start of this thread anymore. You have linux on
> > this machine? If so, I'd try and mount the partition readonly from
> > linux rather than going anywhere near it with other OSes. I don't
> > think linux looks at the partition type, but only the magic.
> 
> Yes I have linux on this machine (I'm dual booting Linux/Win98).
> Hmm, if linux doesn't care about the partition type, then does it
> care about the  type?

Yes. If you think about it, only a dumb boot program requires
partition types and the bootable flag. A smart one will be
able to boot from the partition it's told to, but this requires
it to remember, or to have some sort of user interface built in.

But you can't recover files as files without knowing the system by
which the bytes are laid out in the partition. Ext2 filesystems
take this seriously and pepper the partition with backup copies of
the superblock. FAT doesn't.

> I'm asking this because hda2 was FAT32 (I accidentally deleted it
> and created a new partition on top as EXT2, same size, same 
> partition type. And now I'm in panic mode and I'm trying to recover
> any data on hda2. That's basically the start of this threat.).

If it was a FAT partition, you will never mount it as ext2.

A serious data recovery person would, I imagine, dd the data off
the disk and then look for obvious structures like the top-level
directory which is in a fixed address after the FATs and the
superblock (or whatever the equivalent's name is). They might
have to reconstruct this block to make the filesystem mountable.
I guess you're not going to go that far, so you'll probably just
try mounting it is as all possible varieties of FAT.

dd'ing might get you a few large textfiles off a next-to-virgin
disk that has little fragmentation.

> > If you can mount it as whatever filesystem type works, then you can
> > copy out the data. If you can't, I can only guess that another OS has
> > vomited over part of it.
> 
> Which  do you suggest? EXT2? And is there a chance that
> this will further corrupt the data on it?

Just FATs. Mount it readonly and you won't be able to corrupt it.
(That's why I suggested a recovery person would copy it first.)

Cheers,

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Re: Upgrading to Kernel version 2.3.28

[Oswald Buddenhagen]

>   Is it possible to upgrade an existing 2.0.34 kernel versioned Debian 
> distribution
> to kernel version 2.3.28 ? 
>   If so, where can I get more details on how to proceed with the same ?
> 
uuhhh ... you want upgrade by "1.5" major kernel versions at once ...
possibly it's the best to wait some time, until kernel 2.4 is ready and
there are distributions, which support it fully (woody).
if you need it now, then you'll have to download the kernel source (which
you've done already), persuade the compiler to use the include files from
this kernel source 
(do "ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.3.38/include/linux /usr/include/linux", same
with .../asm). additionally you probably need many kernel-near programs,
which match the new kernel.

btw: are there .debs of 2.3.x kernel sources? this would make it easier
...

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Re: Help -- Data recovery

[Oswald Buddenhagen]

> > > There is also usually a backup of the dos fat 6*512 bytes into the
> > > partition:
> > this is a copy of the boot sector, not the fat.
> > 
> > > Possibly this location could be different depending on the parameters
> > > used when formatting, the size, the fat size (12, 16, 32). But there
> > > should be a backup somewhere.
> > > 
> > it might be dependand from the formatting options, but it is definitively
> > specific to fat32. fat12/16 has not even a rudiment of such features.
> 
> Just an aside - the joke about the backup copy of the FAT is that it
> immediately follows the original, so if you hit one, chances are you've
> hit the other too.
> 
that's right. and even better: dos scandisk always overwrites the second
fat with the first one, if it finds a difference between them. so even if
you have a working backup fat, then scandisk will screw it up. *lol*

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IMAP

[Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira]

Hi all debian users,
I have to install an IMAP Server in a client. Can anyone recommends an
IMAP server ammong Debian packages?
Can anyone tell more or less what to do after installing this package. I
dont know anything about IMAP (yet).
Currently I use Exim.
Thanks.

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Re: [*] SB 128 again

[Oswald Buddenhagen]

> i had get my SB pci 128 Digital now, but where to find ess1370
> or essl371(sorry)? when ess downloaded, i shall compile it as
> a module,and i don't need to compile my kernel, right?
> 
it's not ess1371, but es1371. it is in the sound setup of the 2.2
kernels. i don't know anything about support of it with kernel 2.0. you
can compile it as a module. to compile it, you need the kernel
source package and a matching kernel include package. a ready kernel
binary package should have the modules already included.

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Re: Help -- Data recovery

[David Wright]

Quoting Oswald Buddenhagen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > There is also usually a backup of the dos fat 6*512 bytes into the
> > partition:
> this is a copy of the boot sector, not the fat.
> 
> > Possibly this location could be different depending on the parameters
> > used when formatting, the size, the fat size (12, 16, 32). But there
> > should be a backup somewhere.
> > 
> it might be dependand from the formatting options, but it is definitively
> specific to fat32. fat12/16 has not even a rudiment of such features.

Just an aside - the joke about the backup copy of the FAT is that it
immediately follows the original, so if you hit one, chances are you've
hit the other too.

Cheers,

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[*] SB 128 again

[maths]

hello everybody

i had get my SB pci 128 Digital now, but where to find ess1370
or essl371(sorry)? when ess downloaded, i shall compile it as
a module,and i don't need to compile my kernel, right?

many thanks!

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Re: rebooting as user

[David Wright]

Quoting Mullins, Ron ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> C-A-Rubout drops me to a console, yes. Using xdm/wdm/gdm that console isn't
> logged in. This then leaves me with, "Ok, honey...now that you've killed the
> window manager, you now have to login again, then you can hit C-A-Del. (me
> gets blank stare, then "Why?")"

C-A-Del is defined in /etc/inittab so I'm not sure why your system
requires you to login? Do try it without bothering.

(I really do prefer having two different keystrokes to reboot,
rather than one, say C-A-Down as someone suggested.)

Cheers,

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Running Alsa and Esound on an ESS1879 Chipset

[Dataheart]

Howdy all, and sorry for the cross post.

I have a Compaq Armada 7800 Laptop which according to the Compaq
Documentation runs a ESS1879 chipset(documentation below). I have
installed Alsa and Esound and alsaconf detects it as a Ess1688, I ok
this and it doesnt work, I then modify /etc/modutils/alsa to point it at
the correct module snd-card-es1866(alsaconf points it at
snd-card-audiodrive1688) and this also doesnt work, I can only get it to
work when I install it as a Sound Blaster Pro(snd-card-sb8) but then it
only runs sound at 1/2 speed. ie really slowly.

The same thing also happens without Alsa just using the sb.o out of the
2.2.14 kernel

Has anyone encountered this before and/or know what I should do?
Debian 2.2, Kernel 2.2.14.

Thanks,
Aaron

- Start Compaq Docs -
Audio Support
Armada 7400 and 7800 uses the ESS1879 sound chip. Both RedHat Linux 5.2
and SuSE6.0 include a driver, which will allow basic sound support. This
driver currently supports basic audio functionality under Linux;
therefore the extra features of the ESS1879 are not available. For
example, older Linux kernels included support only for the ESS688/1688,
which do not have full duplex, integrated 3D-audio, hardware volume
control, or a DSP port. Newer kernels include support for the ESS1878,
which differs from the ESS1879 in that the 1878 don’t have integrated
3D-audio. Also, the Armada notebooks include hardware volume control
handled by the system firmware. This volume control works under any OS
but audio drivers must be specially modified to provide feedback to
application programs that the volume has been adjusted. For example,
adjusting the volume using the hardware control will not be reflected in
the status of any audio mixer program. This is limitation also exists in
Win* unless the Compaq specific ESS driver is used. The hardware
resources used by the ESS chip can be read or changed using BIOS setup.
The defaults are ”base I/O= 0x220, IRQ= 5, DMA= 1, MPU401 I/O= 0x330”.
The kernel module sound driver RedHat uses is based on an older, free
Open Sound System (OSS) driver. SuSE comes without sound support
compiled in the kernel; instead SuSE provides two versions of the
commercial OSS driver. The commercial OSS driver is available from
www.4front-tech.com. In addition, ALSA, Advanced Linux Sound
Architecture is available at www.alsa-project.org.
-End Compaq Docs -

Re: Network Traffic Stats

[Jaume Teixi]

I need help on choosing the best tool for exhaustive network traffic
stats because of the taxes from isp for hosting services

I need to know traffic by separate protocols, pop3, smtp, http, https, etc...

On the dists there are: iplogger, ipac, iptraf, nsmon, mrtg, ntop, ...
but I need help
on choose the best tool...

Regards,
jaume.

Re: What is libz1?

[Christian Surchi]

On Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 11:50:43AM -0700, Mark I Manning IV wrote:

> dont know what libz1 is but there is an unofficial potato cd on
> ftp://ftp.kando.ro :) 

ftp.kando.hu !

bye
Christian

Re: External monitor in X

[John Stevenson]

One word of warning I should mention.  For some reason, every once in a while 
the
graphics get screwed up, especially on the enlightenment menus and application
scrolling.  A quick solution to this is to drop down to a virtual terminal 
ctrl+alt+F1
and then switch back to X alt+F7, then everything should be back to normal 
although you
may have a slightly messy screen, but that can be tidyed up by moving  or
shade/unshading the windows...

Its a small price to pay and means you dont have to restart anything...

Johnny.

> > Thank you for your answer. I am running the modified xserver Mach64 from
> > Steve's Dell-pages. What version of debian are you running? I cannot find t
> > he xserver corresponding to ATI Rage 128 (generic) from potato (that you
> > said you are using). I can get external monitor working if I set 'only CRT'
> > option from BIOS but this is very annoying because if I forget to set it
> > back to LCD before I shutdown the machine, I will have no screen at all
> > on the road!



> Last weekend I gave storm linux a try out and it does auto detection of
> hardware.  It reported my video card as an  ATI Mach64 3D Rage Pro.  I didnt
> like storm that much, so I reinstalled debian potato and therefor X using
> 'XF86Setup' and chose the card that storm had detected.  I selected all the
> modes from 800x600 to 1600x1400(?), default 16 Bit color.

Imlib; MIT -SHM

[Oki DZ]

Hi,

I tried to run Enlightenment via local network; when it was
completely started, it complained about "E via network is not that fast,
you'd need MIT -SHM. Set this on on your Imlib settings."
Question is, where can I set the Imlib configuration files? I don't think
that I have /etc/imlib.conf.

Thanks in advance,
Oki

Re: External monitor in X

[John Stevenson]

Hello Kari,

Kari Ruohonen wrote:

> I apologise to contact you directly but I would like to ask a few further
> questions if you don't mind.

Not a problem

> Thank you for your answer. I am running the modified xserver Mach64 from
> Steve's Dell-pages. What version of debian are you running? I cannot find t
> he xserver corresponding to ATI Rage 128 (generic) from potato (that you
> said you are using). I can get external monitor working if I set 'only CRT'
> option from BIOS but this is very annoying because if I forget to set it
> back to LCD before I shutdown the machine, I will have no screen at all
> on the road!

I am running the most up-to-date potato that there is, we have a local mirror
that updates from the debian UK site every night.  I have not added anything
from woody (yet).

Last weekend I gave storm linux a try out and it does auto detection of
hardware.  It reported my video card as an  ATI Mach64 3D Rage Pro.  I didnt
like storm that much, so I reinstalled debian potato and therefor X using
'XF86Setup' and chose the card that storm had detected.  I selected all the
modes from 800x600 to 1600x1400(?), default 16 Bit color.

I can now run X on the laptop LCD at 1024x768 or on an external monitor at
1600x1400, but obviously not at the same time!!!  Everything seems to work
just great, although it is a bit of a come down from the external monitor to
the lcd!!!

I have attached the XF86Config file for interest..

Johnny.

# XF86Config auto-generated by XF86Setup
#
# Copyright (c) 1996 by The XFree86 Project, Inc.

#
# Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a
# copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"),
# to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation
# the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense,
# and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the
# Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:
#
# The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in
# all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
#
# THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR
# IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY,
# FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT.  IN NO EVENT SHALL
# THE XFREE86 PROJECT BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY,
# WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF
# OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE
# SOFTWARE.
#
# Except as contained in this notice, the name of the XFree86 Project shall
# not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other
# dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from the
# XFree86 Project.
#

# See 'man XF86Config' for info on the format of this file

Section "Files"
   RgbPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
   FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled"
   FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic:unscaled"
   FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
   FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
   FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
   FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
   FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
   FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
   FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
   FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
EndSection

Section "Keyboard"
   Protocol"Standard"
   XkbRules"xfree86"
   XkbModel"pc101"
   XkbLayout   "gb"
EndSection

Section "Pointer"
   Protocol"IntelliMouse"
   Device  "/dev/mouse"
   BaudRate1200
   SampleRate  30
   Resolution  100
   Buttons 3
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
   Identifier  "Primary Monitor"
   VendorName  "Unknown"
   ModelName   "Unknown"
   HorizSync   31.5-82.0
   VertRefresh 40-100
   Modeline  "1600x1200" 162.00 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync 
+vsync
   Modeline  "1280x1024" 135.00 1280 1312 1416 1664 1024 1027 1030 1064
   Modeline  "1152x864"  135.00 1152 1464 1592 1776 864 864 876 908
   Modeline  "1024x768"  115.50 1024 1056 1248 1440 768 771 781 802 -hsync 
-vsync
   Modeline  "800x600"69.65 800 864 928 1088 600 604 610 640 -hsync -vsync
EndSection

Section "Device"
   Identifier  "Primary Card"
   VendorName  "Unknown"
   BoardName   "ATI Mach64 3D Rage Pro"


EndSection

Section "Screen"
   Driver  "Accel"
   Device  "Primary Card"
   Monitor "Primary Monitor"
   DefaultColorDepth 16
   SubSection "Display"
  Depth8
  Modes"1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
  Depth15
  Modes"1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"

Re: What is libz1?

[M Techter]

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
Peter S Galbraith writes:
> Hans wrote:
> 
> > zlib1g worked after I downloaded it. Tnx.
snip

> > Again sorry, but I really had to get this off my chest. 
> 
> That's okay.  But there are solutions.
> 

So do I think.

As the problems described by Hans are unknown to 
me since I joined the local linux user group, I suggest:

Linkname: Linux Online - User Groups Around the Globe
URL: http://www.linux.org/users/index.html

max.

Upgrading to Kernel version 2.3.28

[Jhaanaki MK]

Hi,
  I have with me a software which runs in any Linux Distribution, but requires
a kernel version of 2.3.28 or higher.
 
  Is it possible to upgrade an existing 2.0.34 kernel versioned Debian 
distribution
to kernel version 2.3.28 ? 
  If so, where can I get more details on how to proceed with the same ?

  When I tried to compile with the 2.3.28 complete source available
in the linux site - I faced compilation problems in Debian. Hence,
quick and detailed responses would prove very helpful to me.


Thanks and best regards
Jhaanaki M K

Re: rebooting as user

[Peter van Rossum]

On Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 10:46:58AM -0500, Mullins, Ron wrote:
> Now, before I start, I'm not a newbie. I've setup Debian many times, setup a
> masq'ed network, email/ftp/DNS servers, gateways and byways :). What I
> haven't seen yet is how to reboot in X as a user. I can from the terminal
> (using Ctrl-Alt-Del). This doesn't work in an xterm.

Wouldn't this be possible using sudo? I'd say this is exactly meant
to give specific users access to specific super user level commands.
Give your wife permission to "sudo halt" or "sudo reboot" and the only
thing she'll need to know is her own password. 

Peter

Re: Help -- Data recovery

[kmself]

On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 10:48:31AM +1000, Martin Bishop wrote:
> Hi David,
> 
> Thanks for replying.
> 
> David Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I don't have the start of this thread anymore. You have linux on
> > this machine? If so, I'd try and mount the partition readonly from
> > linux rather than going anywhere near it with other OSes. I don't
> > think linux looks at the partition type, but only the magic.
> 
> Yes I have linux on this machine (I'm dual booting Linux/Win98).
> Hmm, if linux doesn't care about the partition type, then does it
> care about the  type?
> 
> I'm asking this because hda2 was FAT32 (I accidentally deleted it
> and created a new partition on top as EXT2, same size, same 
> partition type. And now I'm in panic mode and I'm trying to recover
> any data on hda2. That's basically the start of this threat.).
>  
> > If you can mount it as whatever filesystem type works, then you can
> > copy out the data. If you can't, I can only guess that another OS has
> > vomited over part of it.
> 
> Which  do you suggest? EXT2? And is there a chance that
> this will further corrupt the data on it?

You can try an ext2 mount, though I doubt that that will work.  If the
original data were on a vfat partition, what you need to do is restore
the prior partitioning scheme, which means re-specifying the partition
table with the same filesystem types, start, and end blocks as the
original.  If all you did was modify the partition table, the underlying
data should be intact.  If you created a filesystem afterwards (say, by
running "mke2fs"), then you'll have to rely on any backups you might
have of the data.

> MB.
> 
> 
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Re: rebooting as user

[John Bagdanoff]

"C. Falconer" wrote:
> 
> Lateral thinking solutions
> 
> 1)  Buy her a new machine
> 2)  Buy yourself a new machine and give her your current one
> 3)  Become Amish so you don't need a computer :)
> 
> --
> From:   Mullins, Ron[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
> Why is this critical? I have a wife. I have a wife who likes Windows. I have
> a wife who likes the "Shutdown the computer", as opposed to my telling her,
> "Ok dear, first we open an xterm. Then you have to su to root...and here's
> the password. Now type in"
> 

#2 was the solution to the "Wife thingy Problem" for me.

The added bonus is she is more willing to agree to my upgrades because
this ussually means she will gets an upgrade.

ME:  "Honey, if I upgrade my video card, then you can have my old one
which has 8 times more memory than your current one."

WIFE:  "Okay, sweetie.  Why don't you get yourself a cd writer while
you're at it?  Then you can make me some custom music cds."

Boy, this is working great!!!

John :)

Netscape 6

[Oki DZ]

Hi,

I have dowloaded Netscape 6 from Netscape, but I have the following:
$ cd /opt/netscape
$ ./netscape
.//run-mozilla.sh ./mozilla-bin
MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/opt/netscape
  LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/netscape:/opt/netscape/Cool
  XPCS_HOME=/opt/netscape/Cool
  MOZ_PROGRAM=./mozilla-bin
  MOZ_TOOLKIT=
moz_debug=0
 moz_debugger=
./mozilla-bin: error in loading shared libraries:
libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
directory

Where can I get libstdc++-libc6.1.1? I don't think that I can find one in
www.debian.org.

Oki

Re: rebooting as user

[Surefire]

"Mullins, Ron" wrote:

> To Nate: I'm assuming that by GDM you mean Gnome? Yes, it's installed. Gnome
> guys should have the shutdown read shutdown.allow, huh?
>
> Please guys. How do YOU reboot, those of you who haft to. There has to be an
> easy way to let a DSU home user reboot while in transition. I don't want to
> hear, "I couldn't get anything done. You had the computer in Linux and I
> don't know how to restart it. Can't you just let me run Windows?"

I use GDM, which is separate from Gnome (the Gnome equivalent of KDM). In my
gdm.conf, I have:
# set SystemMenu to 1 if you want to reboot/shutdown without logging in
SystemMenu=1
I just logout of Gnome, then go to System -> Reboot (or Halt), which doesn't 
require
any special permissions. Works great for those unenlightened family members who 
hate
Linux :(

HTH,
J.

sane-1.0.1

[Mike Cook]

Has anyone gotten sane-1.0.1 to work with debian woody? It can't find my
scanner which was /dev/sg0 on slackware. In fact, no sg devices exist in
/dev. Any ideas?

Mike

Re: CDROM not mount

[John Pearson]

On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 11:30:55AM +, New Star Service Co. wrote
> I  buy debian 2.1 cheap CD.
> I boot from CDROM directly so i don't need to create floppy disk.
> I make partition under debian and when i going to install :
> kernel and modules  deb want  source , i select CDROM drive .
> but debian said : CDROM not mont or find . why ?
> please help me how can i solve this problem.
> 

If there's a simple answer to your problem, it depends on the
kind of CDROM drive you have.

What kind of CDROM drive do you have, and how it is connected to
yuor computer?  Does the drive's cable plug in to its own card,
a sound card, or the same way as your hard drive?


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Re: newbie problems with eth0

[Agner-Nichols]

thanx Pontus, that was a start.

After 'modprobe smc-ultra.o' gave me a 'no SMC Ultra card found' error (and
'init-module:
Device or resource busy'), I broke open the box, took a long look at the
board and the chip,
saw it is a 9332, went to the SMC page and found that the driver is tulip.c
So then I tried 'modprobe tulip.o' and got the 'init-module' error (is this
what net-modules.txt
is referring to when it says of tulip.c 'init-time memory allocation makes
problems'?)

How do I find out what is going on with 'init-module'? (Don't know if this
will help, but when I do
an lsmod, I get:  slip, shaper, ppp, slhc, eql, dummy, serial, comm, bpck,
aten, ip_aliases, autofs,
paride, and cdrom -- is dummy tying up the device? -- and if so, how do I
remove the module?
modprobe -r dummy.o ?)

- Original Message -
From: "Pontus Lidman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Agner-Nichols" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "debian-user" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: newbie problems with eth0


>
> On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Agner-Nichols wrote:
>
> > Then, with the net-modules.txt documentation, tried:
> > # insmod -mpv /lib/modules/2.0.36/net/smc-ultra.o io=0 irq=0
> > Same errors, then using the settings on the board, did
> > # insmod -mpv /lib/modules/2.0.36/net/smc-ultra.o io=0x300 irq=10
> > and again got the same errors.  Looks like the options really aren't
being examined.
> >
> > Do I need to recompile my kernel for ethernet support?  Is there
something I
> > can do to get the insmod to work?
>
> My guess would be that the smc-ultra.o module needs some other module
> loaded before it. Try using the modprobe command instead of insmod, as
> this should take care of it automatically. The io and irq options are not
> necessary if it is a PCI card.
>
> Regards,
>
> Pontus
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Re: floppy install problems

[russell simmons]

I installed slink on my 486. 210mb hd and 12 mgs ram, from floppy.  I was 
trying to
install slack, but just couldn't get it to work, so I tried debian and all went 
fine.
If you are making the floppies from windoz, as I did, it is important to do so 
from dos,

and not a dos window, and I would reformat every floppy in dos.  If all else 
fails, I
could snail-mail you my floppies.

russell

kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:

> Alternatively, a PLIP (parallel port IP) link to another sytem might
> also work.
>
> I'd probably vote for an HD swap myself.
>
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 05:14:53PM -0700, Kenneth Scharf wrote:
> >
> > You might try coping the files to floppies that have
> > been formated on the target machine's drive.  Or
> > transfer the target machine's floppy drive to the
> > machine doing the copying and then move it back to the
> > tarket machine.  Methinks floppy interchange may be a
> > problem.
> >
> > 
> > To all,
> >
> > I have tried to install Debian from floppy disks several times on an old
> > IBM 486 ps2 machine.  The machine boots fine with the rescue disk fine.
> > The point at which the install fails is during the mounting of the
> > rescue disk to continue with the base install.  I have made several
> > new rescue floppys thinking it may be the media.  I have only chosen
> > to install from floppy because the machine has no cdrom and only one
> > isa slot for expansion. It does have a 300 mb hard and 8 mb of ram.
> > Thanks for any help in advance.
> >
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Re: STUFF to order

[Brian Stults]

I've been using an ATI Rage Fury 32 MEG AGP W/TV for about 3 months now
with good results.  Haven't used any of the others, though, so I can't
compare/contrast.  I believe it's only supported in the most recent
version of XFree86 (3.3.6), though.  Supposedly, ATI is going to
open-source their drivers, but I think they've been saying that for a
while.

-Brian

On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:

ke6sls >
ke6sls >Hello,
ke6sls >
ke6sls >I have the order all ready except for a Video card for my linux
box. Of these
ke6sls >which is good and will have decent drivers avail? My system is a
450pIII
ke6sls >intel with 128MB Ram. I'm running Slink and 2.2.14.
ke6sls >
ke6sls >STB 3000 Voodoo3 16m AGP W/TV
ke6sls >ATI All in Wonder Pro 8M AGP
ke6sls >ATI Rage Fury 32 MEG AGP
ke6sls >ATI Rage Fury 32 MEG AGP W/TV
ke6sls >
ke6sls >PS - I run X and use KDE and would basically like the least
trouble and
ke6sls >better performance then I currently have with a trident AGP
card.
ke6sls >
ke6sls >Thank you, best regards
ke6sls >

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Re: libc6 howto

[Felix Natter]

Dominic Blythe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> so if i've got libc6 does this mean i've got LinuxThreads/gpthread whatever?

libc6 corresponds to GNU libc 2.x (glibc)

try "info libc" (or one of the debian tools) to find out if you have glibc
>= 2.1.x. older versions (2.0.x) are not threadsafe (I think it was
supposed to be, but there are bugs).

i.e. info libc yields (on my system):

   This is Edition 0.07 DRAFT, last updated 4 Oct 1996, of `The GNU C
Library Reference Manual', for Version 2.00 Beta of the GNU C Library.
(but it's better to check the packages, because the manual might be outdated).

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Re: floppy install problems

[kmself]

Alternatively, a PLIP (parallel port IP) link to another sytem might
also work.

I'd probably vote for an HD swap myself.

On Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 05:14:53PM -0700, Kenneth Scharf wrote:
> 
> You might try coping the files to floppies that have
> been formated on the target machine's drive.  Or
> transfer the target machine's floppy drive to the
> machine doing the copying and then move it back to the
> tarket machine.  Methinks floppy interchange may be a
> problem.
> 
> 
> To all,
> 
> I have tried to install Debian from floppy disks several times on an old
> IBM 486 ps2 machine.  The machine boots fine with the rescue disk fine.
> The point at which the install fails is during the mounting of the
> rescue disk to continue with the base install.  I have made several
> new rescue floppys thinking it may be the media.  I have only chosen
> to install from floppy because the machine has no cdrom and only one
> isa slot for expansion. It does have a 300 mb hard and 8 mb of ram.
> Thanks for any help in advance.
> 
> 
> 
> =
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> 
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Re: Help -- Data recovery

[Martin Bishop]

Hi David,

Thanks for replying.

David Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I don't have the start of this thread anymore. You have linux on
> this machine? If so, I'd try and mount the partition readonly from
> linux rather than going anywhere near it with other OSes. I don't
> think linux looks at the partition type, but only the magic.

Yes I have linux on this machine (I'm dual booting Linux/Win98).
Hmm, if linux doesn't care about the partition type, then does it
care about the  type?

I'm asking this because hda2 was FAT32 (I accidentally deleted it
and created a new partition on top as EXT2, same size, same 
partition type. And now I'm in panic mode and I'm trying to recover
any data on hda2. That's basically the start of this threat.).
 
> If you can mount it as whatever filesystem type works, then you can
> copy out the data. If you can't, I can only guess that another OS has
> vomited over part of it.

Which  do you suggest? EXT2? And is there a chance that
this will further corrupt the data on it?

MB.

Re: samba drive mapped on Win2000

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

chances are you need to upgrade to the latest samba from CVS for best
compadibility with win2k.  I have an installation going of samba
2.1-prealpha(CVS from about a year ago) and samba 3.0 (cvs from december
of 1999) both work fine  i had a lot of trouble with samba 2.0.x with
win2k and nt for that matter.

to get the CVS go to:

http://us2.samba.org/samba/docs/ntdom_faq/page2.html

and follow the instructions for CVS download, then compile and install it.

note it is alpha software but as far as file sharing is concerned i have
not had a problem(i dont use domain controller code or anything)

nate

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zdrysd >Hi
zdrysd >
zdrysd >I cannot map some debian samba shared drives on Win2000 although some i 
can
zdrysd >map.  Has anyone else experienced the same problem??
zdrysd >
zdrysd >
zdrysd >Zane
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Re: STUFF to order

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

my opinion is your best off with the voodoo3.

nate

On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:

ke6sls >
ke6sls >Hello,
ke6sls >
ke6sls >I have the order all ready except for a Video card for my linux box. Of 
these
ke6sls >which is good and will have decent drivers avail? My system is a 450pIII
ke6sls >intel with 128MB Ram. I'm running Slink and 2.2.14.
ke6sls >
ke6sls >STB 3000 Voodoo3 16m AGP W/TV 
ke6sls >ATI All in Wonder Pro 8M AGP 
ke6sls >ATI Rage Fury 32 MEG AGP
ke6sls >ATI Rage Fury 32 MEG AGP W/TV
ke6sls >
ke6sls >PS - I run X and use KDE and would basically like the least trouble and
ke6sls >better performance then I currently have with a trident AGP card.
ke6sls >
ke6sls >Thank you, best regards
ke6sls >
ke6sls >
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ke6sls >
ke6sls >
ke6sls >Jaye:-}
ke6sls >
ke6sls >M.J. Inabnit, KE6SLS e-mail  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ke6sls >707-442-6579 h/m 707-441-7096 p
ke6sls >http://www.qsl.net/ke6slsICQ# 12741145
ke6sls >This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian
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Re: Help -- Data recovery

[Martin Bishop]

Oswald Buddenhagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> hmm ... how did you use dos fdisk at any time? if so, then you _might_
> have a problem. but i guess, you used only cfdisk for the whole
> repartitioning.

After booting into Win98 and couldn't see hda2, I ran 'dos fdisk' to 
check the partition to see what info I can gather. I noticed that the
Volume Label is empty (used to be siloA), and the filesystem is UNKNOWN
(so that's why Win98 cannot see any data on that partition).

So to answer your question, yes I did run 'dos fdisk' but I did not 
modify/change anything when I quit.

> was this partition for sure hda2 or was it hda5? if it
> was hda5, then you have to make it a logical (=extended) partition again.
> does the partition now start at the same position, as it started before
> you deleted it? if you created it originally with dos fdisk, then it might
> have been be strangely allocated. then you would have to find the boot
> sector of the partition ... i think, disk editior from the norton
> utilities offers this "partition search" feature.

Hmmm, now that you've brought this point up, I can't remember if I
used 'dos fdisk' or 'linux (c)fdisk' to create the partition on hda.

Ok so far, I've only recreated a primary partition and that doesn't
seem to work. I guess I'll try setting it as a logical partition and
see if it restores things back to normal.

A quick question. If the partition was originally a primary partition,
and now I'm setting as a logical partition, would it screw up the data
beyond repair?

As you can see, all I care about now is to get the data out of that
partition, and I'm a little nervous about trying things that could
further corrupt the data on it.

> _possibly_ the partition has had another size, then you specified now (dos
> fdisk likes to leave some space unused without an obvious reason). but my
> experinence was, that windows does not care about size mismatches ...

If I understand you correctly, the size that I specify is the block
ending from hda1 all the way to the max size of the disk. This is
because I only have two partition on this drive, and I haven't deleted
or changed hda1.

> > "man cfdisk" has a suggestion/warning for DOS 6.X mentioning something about
> > zeroing the first 512 bytes of the partition with this command:
> > 
> > "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda1  bs=512  count=1"
> >  
> > I'm afraid that if I try the above I might stuff up the partition table 
> > further,
> > so I haven't ran it.
> > 
> do not even _think_ of running that command ... it's exactly the opposite
> of what you want: it would tell windoze, that the partition is empty.

:) Ok I won't run this command then.

MB.

IBM Thinkpad 360CSE type 2620-8ZF

[Howard Perkins]

Can anyone please supply me with a list of key functions for this computer,  
I don't have the manual or does anyone know if the manual can be downloaded.

Thanks a lot Howard perkins
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floppy install problems

[Kenneth Scharf]

You might try coping the files to floppies that have
been formated on the target machine's drive.  Or
transfer the target machine's floppy drive to the
machine doing the copying and then move it back to the
tarket machine.  Methinks floppy interchange may be a
problem.


To all,

I have tried to install Debian from floppy disks
several times on an 
old IBM 486 ps2 machine.  The machine boots fine with
the rescue 
disk fine.  The point at which the install fails is
during the mounting 
of the rescue disk to continue with the base install. 
I have made 
several new rescue floppys thinking it may be the
media.  I have 
only chosen to install from floppy because the machine
has no 
cdrom and only one isa slot for expansion. It does
have a 300 mb 
hard and 8 mb of ram.  Thanks for any help in advance.



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help me with apsfilter setup

[Cameron Matheson]

Hey,
I'm trying to get apsfilter to work with my Canon BJC-2010.  How
do I configure apsfilter?  Sorry for the HTML, but I need to emphasize
this.  I'm using Debian slink, and I need to configure apsfilter. 
apsfilterconfig isn't there, and SETUP isn't their either.  What is
the program to configure apsfilter with?
Thanks
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Console problems...

[Troy Telford]

OK, here's my problem:  I'm currently running the Woody release, and
have managed to cause a rather interesting problem:  Although my syslogd

and klogd daemons are running at startup, the system logs themselves are

not being written - in fact, the log messages are displayed to the text
console... for instance, when I log into a regular text-console (non-X),

I am greeted with a PAM module message, as well as a login record - the
exact same as I find in my /var/log/syslog.0 file.  And, the date stamp
on my /var/log/syslog.0 file has been unchanged since April 9th -
dispite multiple reboots (I use Windoze for games...)  Another
interesting side-not is that Xscreensaver (and the KDE screensavers)
will 'save' the screen - but when I choose 'lock screen' - they both
just save the screen and do not lock the screen...

While a somewhat minor problem as far as functionality goes, this is a
rather troublesome security issue, as well as simply annoying due to the

fact that my system isn't working correctly...

Now, this is what I did (I think) that caused the problem - I tried to
install the KDE-Corel packages (From the Corel web-site).  Now, there
were some conflicts in dpkg that kept them from installing it... and, I
just moved back to the packages available from the KDE site...  I
thought everything was OK until I saw the logging behavior.

I'll supply any more additional information upon request...

Thanks!

Troy
  Telford