Re: cd de audio

2000-11-05 Thread pookie
Prueba a instalarte cdtools... Luego en el shell escribe:
cdplay [n_pista]
Si no pones el nº de pista empieza por la 1.
Tb puedes usar cdstop, cdeject, y no se si hay algo mas...

Sobre lo de tener sonido como usuario yo tengo, pero no hice nada para
ello... No sera que no tienes permisos para los otros en el /dev/dsp?

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From: Luis Zuccolo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 1:22 AM
Subject: cd de audio


 Hola:

 Agradeceria que alguien me informe como hacer para escuchar un  cd de
 musica. Cuando trato de montarlo, no me deja, ya que no reconoce el
 formato de archivos.
 Busque informacion al respecto en  faq, how to y lei en news y no
 enconte nada.
 De paso aprovecho para preguntar como hacer para tener sonido como
 usuario,ya que la unica forma de tenerlo es como root.
 Muchas Gracias




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Re: cd de audio

2000-11-05 Thread Santiago Romero
El vie, 03 de nov de 2000, a las 09:22:36 -0300, Luis Zuccolo dijo:
 Hola:
 
 Agradeceria que alguien me informe como hacer para escuchar un  cd de
 musica. Cuando trato de montarlo, no me deja, ya que no reconoce el
 formato de archivos.

 es que los CDs de audio NO se montan.
 Los CDs de audio se meten en el CD y se utiliza un reproductor de
 cd como kscd, cdp, cdplayer, etc para reproducirlos: no se puede
 montar un CD de audio porque no tiene un sistema de ficheros dentro,
 solo tiene audio.

 De paso aprovecho para preguntar como hacer para tener sonido como
 usuario,ya que la unica forma de tenerlo es como root.

 adduser usuario audio
 chmod 666 /dev/dsp
 chmod 666 /dev/audio
 chmod 666 /dev/mixer

 Muchas Gracias

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Re: Configurar puerto 6699 para OpenNapster

2000-11-05 Thread Xose Manoel Ramos
El Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 01:24:16PM +0100, Santiago Fernandez contaba:

y en /etc/inetd.conf:
napster dgram   udp waitroot/usr/bin/lopster

¿Y esto para qué? No vas a recibir nunca peticiones a este puerto (a
no ser que te estén scaneando los puertos) a no ser que estés
conectado a Napster. A ver, el Napster funciona entre gente que está
conectada en un momento. Si tienes ejecutado el Lopster no hace falta
avisar el Inetd. Lo mismo que si tienes el Apache o el Exim como
demonios, no hace falta. Ellos ya se encargan del puerto.

Yo la verdad no tuve que hacer  nada. Conecto con el Lopster y aparece
un puerto  abierto en mi máquina.  El que quiera acceder  accede, y el
que no, se va a hacer gárgaras. En cuanto a configurar un servicio.
En realidad no vale tampoco para nada.

Yo me preocuparía más en cerrar bien otros puertos y en configuar
bien la pila para que puedan acceder a tu máquina.

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RE: manual debianero de NFS, NIS

2000-11-05 Thread Antonio Rueda
Pasate por LuCAS (lucas.hisplainux.es) Tienes alguna cosa sobre
administración de redes.
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Subject: manual debianero de NFS, NIS


 Hola debianeros.

 ¿Saben donde puedo encontrar un manual, tutorial, lo que sea sobre NIS y
NFS ojalá orientado a Debian?, en mis manos a caido una red en la que hay
486 con 16 MB de ram cada uno y pues.. quiero hacer algunas cosillas ahi..
:-D jeje, por fin!!

 agradeciendo de antemano,

 Ricardo Rodríguez
 Cartago-Colombia



 
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No me abre sesiones X para los usuarios

2000-11-05 Thread Luis M. Arroyo Egoscozabal
Hola, el problemilla es el siguiente. He instalado el HelixCode, añadiendo
una linea al sources.list, como ponía en el doc de La Espiral. Se me ha
puesto el gdm como gestor de entrada gréfica, y como root ente al gnome
perfectamente. Pero los usuarios no acceden, ni los viejos ni los nuevos.
Entran, validan la contraseña, pero se queda la X del cursor en la pantalla,
sin abrir nada. Sabeis que puede pasar? Le ha pasado esto a alguien?

Gracias
L.



Sobre sonido...

2000-11-05 Thread Luis M. Arroyo Egoscozabal
He instalado una SB16 , como root reproduce sin problemas, pero los
usuarios no acceden a ella...
La configuré como modulos, y despues hice:
chmod 666 /dev/dsp /dev/audio /dev/hdb /dev/mixer
Me he olvidado de algo?
Gracias
L.



RE: Sobre sonido...[ por no leer]

2000-11-05 Thread Luis M. Arroyo Egoscozabal
Vi en el correo de Santiago una alusion a hacer adduser usuario audio? No
vale con dar los permisos a los dispositivos?
Todavia no lo he probado, en cuanto arranque linux lo pruebo
Gracias



Problemas con IMP

2000-11-05 Thread Andres Herrera
Guenas

Tengo una serie de problemillas con el IMP de Potato. El mas urgente es
el del envio del correo.

Si escribo un mensaje simple y trato de enviarlo, en seguida me suelta
un The document contained no data (desde Netscape). Lo mismo desde el
NS y el IE en Guin. En cambio desde lynx o desde links no hay ningun
problema, por lo que imagino que el problema esta en el javascript que
tiene el IMP por todas partes :-(

¿Alguien tiene idea de por donde puede andar el problema?

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Re: Sobre sonido...

2000-11-05 Thread Chafar
Luis M. Arroyo Egoscozabal wrote:
 
 He instalado una SB16 , como root reproduce sin problemas, pero los
 usuarios no acceden a ella...
 La configuré como modulos, y despues hice:
 chmod 666 /dev/dsp /dev/audio /dev/hdb /dev/mixer


Eso no tiene nada que ver con el sonido, mejor lo dejas con 660,
porsiaca.

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[p][off - topic] suscripción

2000-11-05 Thread Yaro Páez
Necesito la direccion web para suscribirme a la lista, ya que cambiaré de 
buzón


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Compilar con woody

2000-11-05 Thread Luis Taboada Rivas
Buenas a todos.

Hace poco me he pasado a Woody, y tengo algunos problemas para
compilar:

-Aunque tengo instalado g++, el 'configure' de algunos programas me
dice que el compilador de c++ no puede generar ejecutables.

- A la hora dl enlazado, 'ld' no encuentra significado a la opcion
'-ldb'. ¿Que libreria es esta?
¿no es libdb-dev?, porque juraria que la tengo instalada.


Gracias.

Luis.




Re: Java1.2.2

2000-11-05 Thread Luis Clausell
Yep Ramon!

El Mon, 16 de Oct de 2000 a las 08:02 PM, Ramon Pons escribió:

vengo intentando resolver un problema con mi instalacion de java.

Font specified in font.properties not found
[--symbol-medium-r-normal--*-%d-*-*-p-*-adobe-fontspecific]
[...]

Creo que me pasó algo así con las pre-versiones del 1.2.2, desde luego con el
JDK 1.2.2 RC4 y JDK 1.3 FCS que bajé de www.blackdown.org sin problema.

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Re: Sobre sonido...[ por no leer]

2000-11-05 Thread Joaquin Urrutia
On dom, 05 nov 2000, Luis M. Arroyo Egoscozabal escribió:
 Vi en el correo de Santiago una alusion a hacer adduser usuario audio? No
 vale con dar los permisos a los dispositivos?
 Todavia no lo he probado, en cuanto arranque linux lo pruebo
 Gracias

Yo lo unico que hago para que los usuarios tengan acceso, es incluirlos en el 
grupo audio y listo, los permisos ni los toco ;)

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RE: Sobre sonido...[ por no leer]

2000-11-05 Thread Luis M. Arroyo Egoscozabal
 Vi en el correo de Santiago una alusion a hacer adduser usuario audio? No
 vale con dar los permisos a los dispositivos?
 Todavia no lo he probado, en cuanto arranque linux lo pruebo
 Gracias

Yo lo unico que hago para que los usuarios tengan acceso, es incluirlos en
el
grupo audio y listo, los permisos ni los toco ;)

Pues tampoco funciona, intento lanzar un mp3 y me dice q el dispositivo no
esta listo???
Que permisos tiene la gente en /dev/audio, mixer, dsp y hdb?

Gracias por vuestra paciencia :-)



Re: Queries a postgres

2000-11-05 Thread Luis Clausell
Yep Gabriel!

El Tue, 31 de Oct de 2000 a las 11:17 AM, Gabriel Tabares Barreiro escribió:

 Una nueva pregunta sobre postgres. Tengo Potato instalado con
 Postgres 7.0.2 (antes del cambio de librerias) y va bastante
 bien. El problema que tengo es que me exige que para nombrar un
 campo, tabla o lo que sea tengo que rodearlo de 
 (ejemplo: 'SELECT campo FROM tabla' tiene que ser
 'SELECT campo FROM tabla) . ?Alguien sabe por que? Me lo
 hace hasta en PGAccess.

Yo he utilizado nunca las comillas, ni con la 6.5.x ni con la 7.0.x :-?

¿Qué le has puesto al parámetro PGDATESTYLE?  Prueba a poner SQL.

Otra mas (ya puesto). Tengo postgres-java y drivers jdbc para
 Java 1.1 (en caso que los de 7.0.2 sean para 1.2, que no me
 extrannaria), pero al compilar me dice que no encuentra 
 sql.org.postgres (el driver) aunque le ponga import sql.*;
 ?Alguna idea?

Si tienes instalada la libpgjava me temo que es para la 1.1, ya que en Debian
no se ha incluido soporte para el JDK 1.2.2 ni posteriores, se quedó en la
1.1.8.  En la web de PostgreSQL tienes el correspondiente jdbc7.0-1.2.jar

El driver se llama mediante org.postgresql.Driver para jdbc7.0-1.2.jar y 
postgresql.Driver en los anteriores.

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No me abre sesiones X para los usuarios

2000-11-05 Thread Luis M. Arroyo Egoscozabal
He desinstalado el gdm, por si era eso, y he intentado arrancar con startx a
pelo para un usuario. El root entra sin problemas al AfterStep, pero el
usuario recibe esto:
---
s/Type1,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic,/usr
/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
(--) SVGA: PCI: NVidia Riva TNT rev 4, Memory @ 0xe000, 0xe100
(--) SVGA: chipset:  RIVA TNT
(**) SVGA: videoram: 16256k
(**) SVGA: Option dac_8_bit
(**) SVGA: Using 32 bpp, Depth 24, Color weight: 888
(--) SVGA: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 350.000 MHz
(**) SVGA: Mode 1024x768: mode clock =  85.000
(--) SVGA: Virtual resolution set to 1024x768
(--) SVGA: RIVA TNT: Using hardware cursor
(--) SVGA: Using XAA (XFree86 Acceleration Architecture)
(--) SVGA: XAA: Solid filled rectangles
(--) SVGA: XAA: Screen-to-screen copy
(--) SVGA: XAA: 8x8 color expand pattern fill
(--) SVGA: XAA: Using 8 128x64 areas for pixmap caching
(--) SVGA: XAA: Caching tiles and stipples
(--) SVGA: XAA: Horizontal and vertical lines and segments
Warning: /dev/mouse unable to get status of mouse fd (Argumento invlido)
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc: /dev/null: Permiso denegado
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc: /dev/null: Permiso denegado
Xsession: unable to create X session error file.  Aborting.



y le echa a consola otra vez. Sabeis por qué puede ser y cómo solucionarlo??

Gracias por la paciencia... :-)

L.



Re: No me abre sesiones X para los usuarios

2000-11-05 Thread Carlos Valdivia
On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 01:20:31AM +0100, Luis M. Arroyo Egoscozabal wrote:
 Warning: /dev/mouse unable to get status of mouse fd (Argumento inválido)
No tiene nada que ver pero a mí tb me sale esta línea desde que uso potato y no 
sé por qué.

 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc: /dev/null: Permiso denegado
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc: /dev/null: Permiso denegado
 Xsession: unable to create X session error file.  Aborting.
¿Has mirado los permisos de /dev/null? Compruébalos a ver si es eso.
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Re: Problemas con IMP

2000-11-05 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Sun, Nov 05, 2000 at 05:57:39PM +0100, Andres Herrera wrote:
 Si escribo un mensaje simple y trato de enviarlo, en seguida me suelta
 un The document contained no data (desde Netscape). Lo mismo desde el
 NS y el IE en Guin. En cambio desde lynx o desde links no hay ningun
 problema, por lo que imagino que el problema esta en el javascript que
 tiene el IMP por todas partes :-(

No, problema de PHP.
Que versión de PHP y qué versión del paquete?
En cualquier caso, actualiza a lo ultimo de debian-security.

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Re: Mer e-postfrågor

2000-11-05 Thread Jacob Jovelou
On Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 07:28:26AM -0800, Carl Winbäck wrote:
 Hejsan, nu kommer en e-postfråga till.
 Kan man få alla inkommande brev att automatiskt hamna i
 ~/mail/mbox istället för /var/spool/mail/användarnamn?

Det är ju enkelt. Gör bara en symbolisk länk i /var/spool/mail/ dit du vill
att breven ska hamna.

ln -s /home/användare/mail/mbox /var/spool/mail/användarnamn 
chown användare.mail /home/användare/mail/mbox
chmod gu+rw /home/användare/mail/mbox
chmod o-rwx /home/användare/mail/mbox

(som root)

Du kan ju flytta /var/spool/mail/användarnamn till /home/användare/mail/mbox
också, så att breven i spoolen inte försvinner...

 Eller ska man kanske lägga in Windows och Outlook Express i
 stället?

Det tycker jag verkligen inte.

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Re: Mer e-postfrågor

2000-11-05 Thread Per Eric Rosén
On Sat, 4 Nov 2000, Carl Winbäck wrote:

 Hejsan, nu kommer en e-postfråga till.
 Kan man få alla inkommande brev att automatiskt hamna i
 ~/mail/mbox istället för /var/spool/mail/användarnamn?

Du kan göra en symbolisk länk *från* mbox också; ln -s /var/mail/$USER
$HOME/mail/mbox. Däremot riskerar du att få fillåsningsproblem med alla
sätt som bygger på länkar.

Prova också procmail; du kan använda denna procmailrc (otestad)
-- klipp --
PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin
MAIL=$HOME/mail#you'd better make sure it exists
DEFAULT=$HOME/mail/mbox#completely optional
LOGFILE=$HOME/.procmail.log#recommended
-- klipp --
och installera (apt-get) procmail om du inte gjort det. ~/.forward ska
innehålla |/usr/bin/procmail (fungerar med exim m.fl., läs man
procmail annars). 

Som en bonus får du en privat brevlogg i .procmail.log.

F.Ö, Vilket program har du som mår bättre av detta arrangemang (om man
törs fråga) ? Både pine, imapd m.fl. klarar /var/mail/* också.

Annars skulle jag rekommendera maildir-formatet. Då lagras varje brev
helt enkelt som en separat fil, vilket ökar pålitligheten. Lägg helt
enkelt till / i .procmailrc, DEFAULT=$HOME/mail/in/ *borde* fungera.

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Re: PORTA 21

2000-11-05 Thread Gleydson Mazioli da Silva
Use o xinetd ao invés do inetd, ele permite que voce faça isso.

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 Alguém sabe como mudar a porta do ftpd 
 
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rc.local

2000-11-05 Thread Rafael A . Schmitt
Olá

qual é o equivalente ao /etc/rc.d/rc.local no debian?
eu quero que o comando insmod -f ltmodem 
seja executado a cada inicialização.
no rh eu colocava esse comando no /etc/rc.d/rc.local.
e no debian?

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Re: rc.local

2000-11-05 Thread Gleydson Mazioli da Silva
Coloca o script em arquivo em /etc/rc.boot

Rafael A . Schmitt wrote:
 
 Olá
 
 qual é o equivalente ao /etc/rc.d/rc.local no debian?
 eu quero que o comando insmod -f ltmodem
 seja executado a cada inicialização.
 no rh eu colocava esse comando no /etc/rc.d/rc.local.
 e no debian?
 
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Coisas do XFree 4...

2000-11-05 Thread Cesar Cardoso
Fiz o upgrade para o XFree 4.0.1, tudo esta' correndo bem, no entanto...

i) Porque diabos o /etc/X11/Xserves faz referencia ao
/usr/bin/X11/XF86_SVGA? E porque diabos ele cisma em voltar ao XF86_SVGA
no boot, mesmo quando modifico o arquivo para referenciar
/usr/bin/X11/XFree? Eu apaguei o servidor SVGA do XFree 3.3.6!
ii) Porque diabos o gdm do Helix GNOME da' o seguinte erro: eu entro com
o meu login, minha senha, vai entrar no GNOME... e volta aa tela do
gdm...
iii) Porque, depois que eu disparo um startx e entro no X, escurece a
cor das fontes dos consoles?

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Re: rc.local

2000-11-05 Thread Adriano Freitas
Rafael A . Schmitt wrote:
 
 Olá
 
 qual é o equivalente ao /etc/rc.d/rc.local no debian?
 eu quero que o comando insmod -f ltmodem
 seja executado a cada inicialização.
 no rh eu colocava esse comando no /etc/rc.d/rc.local.
 e no debian?
 


Por se tratar de um módulo, não seria melhor você colocá-lo em
/etc/modules?? Os módulos que estão nesse arquivo são iniciados junto
com o sistema.

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Re: Como Desativar o XDM

2000-11-05 Thread DephiNit
Simples,

apt-get remove xdm

t+

DephiNit

Em Sex 03 Nov 2000 04:26, Ademar Sousa escreveu:
 Oi Gente,

 mais uma dúvida:

 como desativar o XDM?
 não quero mais usar o login no ambiente gráfico.
 estou usando o 2.2

 Até mais,

 Ademar



off-topic Exim

2000-11-05 Thread Rafael A . Schmitt
Olá

alguém sabe se preciso alguma configuração especial no exim
ou no mutt para conseguir mandar e-mails para listas de discussão?
para essa eu consigo mandar, mas para a linux-br , mutt-users não consigo
de jeito nenhum :/
antes eu usava o sendmail + mutt e funcionava sem problemas.
o meu .muttrc continua o mesmoe a configuração do exim eu acho que está
ok. a minha conexão é dial-up ,por isso mando meus e-mais pelo smtp.uol.com.br.
qq dica é bem vinda

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XFree86 4.0.1 and Voodoo3 -- how do I test?

2000-11-05 Thread Thomas J. Hamman
Okay, I have the latest 2.4.0 test kernel compiled with DRI and the 3dfx
driver, I have XFree86 4.0.1 running fine

Now how do I even find out if I have 3D hardware acceleration working?
Is there any simple test?  None of my games currently work, but I know
Myth 2 and Quake 2 need the older glide stuff anyway, and I don't know
about Heretic 2.

The test programs in glide2-bin don't work but I assume they're only
supposed to work with the older glide stuff.  What can I try running as
a test?

(And, if it doesn't work, what might I be missing?  I have DRI/3dfx
compiled into the kernel as stated above, and the XF86Config-4
configured correctly as far as I can tell.)

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tkdvi ? problem

2000-11-05 Thread Tino Ionescu
Hi gentlemens ! 

My question is regarding the a dvi-viewer - tkdvi - what happends is 
after installation via dselect, happends ... nothing , that is no tkdvi
appears. Can anybody advise please ? 

PS I checked xgdvi but it's at unstable and require to upgrade libc6 and I
would like to stay away from that.
 
Thank you ,
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Re: Q: Can E menu use console commands?

2000-11-05 Thread Greg Gilbert
I don't know if it can do precisly what you want, but you can send
commands to enlightenment using eesh. If you want to make a menu
item a command like import -root, then just add it to your
~/.enlightenment/user_apps.menu, or whichever menu you want to use.

Greg
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 Hi,
 
 In MWM I could pass shell commands as a menu, and I think Window Maker
 allowed it. Can I do it in Enlightenment? I want to use the
 import -root... to take a screenshot. Other uses come to mind.
 
 Thanks,
 
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sticky bit, powersaving hdd spindown

2000-11-05 Thread Damien
hello fellow debian users;

i've been working on a stand alone music player for the last couple of months.
it's currently a bit loud (being based around an old p166 with a very noisy
hdd  powersupply fan.

after reading another posting by someone else on how to quieten down a
computer, i finally got motivated to do so. but the first problem that struck
me was the hdd having to spin up all the time

currently my music player plays a series of files off a cd. it also has a
screen blanking option which due to the hackish nature of this program, does a
system('tput clear') (as i don't want to use the ncurses routines to do this)

this call to tput is located on the hard disk and cached. yet after playing a
certain amount of music, this binary is swapped out, and if accessed again,
the hdd would have to spin down again.

i remember reading somewhere that the sticky bit could be used to instruct
certain unixs to permanently cache a program. is this the case with linux? if
not, can anyone offer any alternative solutions?

thanks in advance.

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Re: sticky bit, powersaving hdd spindown

2000-11-05 Thread brian moore
On Sun, Nov 05, 2000 at 06:11:36PM +1100, Damien wrote:
 i remember reading somewhere that the sticky bit could be used to instruct
 certain unixs to permanently cache a program. is this the case with linux? if
 not, can anyone offer any alternative solutions?

No, nor has it been supported in any version of Unix that I know of
since the days when PDP-11/70's were hot.

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To print to hpdeskjet 840C

2000-11-05 Thread Rogelio E. Castillo Haro

I want to print to a hp deskjet color printer...
You know which filter I must to use?

TIA

Rogelio



Re: OFFTOPIC weird URL's

2000-11-05 Thread Joey Hess
Bob Bernstein wrote:
 croak What exactly are these spammers doing?  Did they convert a
 croak dotted-quad address into a decimal number?
 
 I can tell you an easier way to decipher them, but I too would like to
 know how they are contructed, i.e what's the algorithm.

a.b.c.d

n = d + c * 256 + b * 256 ^ 2 + a * 256 ^ 3

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Re: Java 2 Runtime Environment

2000-11-05 Thread Damon Muller
Quoth Shao Zhang, 
 Put this in your sources.list:
 
 deb ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/java-linux/debian woody non-free
 
 You can replace the first part url with any mirros listed on
 blackdown.org

Minor correction: you *have* to replace the first part of the URL if you
aren't in Australia, as mirror.aarnet.edu.au is only available to
Australian users.

cheers,

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Re: SIS 900 NIC

2000-11-05 Thread Rogelio E. Castillo Haro

And what is exactly your problem?
In the ifconfig step?

Art Edwards wrote:


I'm trying (very patiently) to do a network install using a system with
an embedded SIS 900. I have tried to install the sis900.0 module without
success. This is particularly frustrating because the card was
recognized and used on the same box with the Caldera open linux
distribution. Any help would be apreciated




Re: Which editor for programming?

2000-11-05 Thread Damon Muller
Hi Shao,

Quoth Shao Zhang, 
 Could you let us know how you live on both emacs and vim? Do you have to
 use the vi mode in emacs when using emacs?
 
 I tried out emacs before and cannot use it at all without the vi mode.
 Eg. C-d in vim scrolls page down but deletes lines in emacs...

Umm... Basically I just made a point to learn enough about both of them. 

Vim is very cool, and fast, and has great syntax highlighting, and is
perfect for just about everything. But when it came to my thesis using
LaTeX, I figured I needed something with a bit more balls - something
that was written for hard-core document production. So I bit the bullet
and decided to learn EMACS. The main thing I did was to sit down and
work through the tutorial, which was very helpful. 

The xemacs20-support package also has a nifty little reference card,
located at /usr/lib/xemacs-20.4/etc/refcard3.ps - I just printed this
out double sided and use it as an aide memoir. Between this and the
LaTeX manual, I'm doing quite well (considering I'm a criminologist, and
not a computer scientist).

I think the idea of using emacs to emulate vi is a little disturbing,
frankly! It's a bit like sitting on top of a tank and pretending it's a
mountain bike.

cheers,

damon

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Re: sticky bit, powersaving hdd spindown

2000-11-05 Thread Damian Menscher
On Sun, 5 Nov 2000, Damien wrote:

 i've been working on a stand alone music player for the last couple
 of months. it's currently a bit loud (being based around an old p166
 with a very noisy hdd  powersupply fan.
 
 after reading another posting by someone else on how to quieten down
 a computer, i finally got motivated to do so. but the first problem
 that struck me was the hdd having to spin up all the time
 
 currently my music player plays a series of files off a cd. it also
 has a screen blanking option which due to the hackish nature of this
 program, does a system('tput clear') (as i don't want to use the
 ncurses routines to do this)
 
 this call to tput is located on the hard disk and cached. yet after
 playing a certain amount of music, this binary is swapped out, and
 if accessed again, the hdd would have to spin down again.
 
 i remember reading somewhere that the sticky bit could be used to
 instruct certain unixs to permanently cache a program. is this the
 case with linux? if not, can anyone offer any alternative solutions?

Under DOS there was the possibility of treating some of your RAM like a
disk (hence the name ramdisk).  Not sure if Linux can do this, but if
so, then just copy the binary to a ramdisk and run it from there.

Just an idea, I don't know how to do it or even if it can be done.

Damian Menscher
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SB Live! (Xgamer) with Debian Woody

2000-11-05 Thread Jamu Kakar
Hello,

After managing to get my XFree86 4.0.1 running last night (which
seemed an achievement) I set upon setting up an SB Live! (Xgamer)... I
downloaded the drivers from opensource.creative.com and compiled them
with few warnings.  I then did a 'make install' and got the following
messages:

mkdir -p /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc
install -c -m 664 emu10k1.o /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc
install -c -m 664 ac97_codec.o /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc
mkdir -p /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc
install -c -m 664 emu10k1-joy.o /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc
/sbin/depmod -a 2.2.17
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/emu10k1.o
/sbin/modprobe -r emu10k1.o emu10k1-joy.o ac97_codec.o 

Has anyone else experienced these problems?  I've done some hunting
through FAQs and noticed someone saying to set MODVERSIONS in the
Makefile to 'y' and INCLUDEDIR to '/usr/src/linux/include'... neither
MODVERSIONS or INCLUDEDIR is to be found in the Makefile but I added
those lines in anyway... same problem happened.

I've checked the kernel (with 'modconf') to make sure Sound support
is installed and it apparently is, although soundcore isn't a loaded
module (should it be?).

The only other thing I've checked is the output from 'dmesg':

...
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
sb: dsp reset failed.
Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
sb: dsp reset failed.
Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
sb: dsp reset failed.
Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
sb: dsp reset failed.
Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
sb: dsp reset failed.
Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
sb: dsp reset failed.
Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
sb: dsp reset failed.

If anyone can point me in the right direction it'd be much
appreciated.  I'm running Woody which I've been keeping up-to-date
daily with apt-get.

Cheers,
Jamu.










Re: SIS 900 NIC

2000-11-05 Thread Arthur H. Edwards
The problem is during the install. After I install the Kernel and during
the configuration of device drivers, when I try to install the sis9000
driver I get the usual error resonses

insmod sis900 failed



Arthur H. Edwards
712 Valencia Dr. NE
Abq. NM 87108

(505) 256-0834

On Sun, 5 Nov 2000, Rogelio E. Castillo Haro wrote:

 And what is exactly your problem?
 In the ifconfig step?
 
 Art Edwards wrote:
 
  I'm trying (very patiently) to do a network install using a system with
  an embedded SIS 900. I have tried to install the sis900.0 module without
  success. This is particularly frustrating because the card was
  recognized and used on the same box with the Caldera open linux
  distribution. Any help would be apreciated
 
 



Re: Q: Can E menu use console commands?

2000-11-05 Thread Jonathan Gift
Hi,

 Thanks for getting back to me. I tried passing it through eesh, should have
mentioned it...

 I don't know if it can do precisly what you want, but you can send

Well, instead of the standard:
XClock NULL exec xclock

I'd like:
Foo NULL exec -import -screen (or root) root /tmp/Screnshot.jpg

But no go, with or without eesh. Shell scripts without direct console acess
as above work fine.

Jonathan




Re: To print to hpdeskjet 840C

2000-11-05 Thread Vee-Eye
Vi scribis:
 I want to print to a hp deskjet color printer...
 You know which filter I must to use?
 
¿Que tal?

Your choice depends on what you want to print:
( from http://www.linuxprinting.org )

mn magazine c't - Magazin fuer
  Computertechnik (21/2000) recommends for the HP
  DeskJet 840C:
  Text: cdj670/300x300
  Photo: cdj880/2400x2400
  STP not tested.

Check out the site mentioned above and then compare what you can get from
magicfilter or apsfilter to satisfy your needs.

MH

PS: For text you could give the dj690c-best-filter included in magicfilter a
try. It's working great on my cheap, old and noisy hp695 at 600x600 b/w  

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Re: Upgrading video card: Best of these three?

2000-11-05 Thread Kristian Rink
Obviously Rogerio Brito [EMAIL PROTECTED]  thinks that:

   In all reviews that I've studied, the NVIDIA cards seem to be
   the winners of performance, but the fact that they don't have
   a receptive attitude towards the community means that they
   don't want people like me as their customers.

You're having my highest respect for that... I guess it's important to, after 
talking about Free/ Open Source software, to get people also sensitized in 
issues of Open *hardware*. I can't really see it as a *support* of a company 
towards the Linux movement to sell a product with proprietary, closed source 
drivers while not supporting open developers and keeping hardware 
specifications secret.. To me, this is nothing more than a pure marketing trick 
to get the (fortunately growing) amount of Linux users to buy their hardware 
products... Computers are dead if people are limited to using closed, 
proprietary software, but the best free OS doesn't has any use when there is no 
possiblilty to get access to working hardware. 

Please, everybody check www.openhardware.org , since even if this thing is 
pretty important, seems it's still way underestimated.. :)


Regards, have a fine sunday...
Kristian

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Re: ISP Configuration help, please.

2000-11-05 Thread Kent West

John Hasler wrote:


soluzar75 writes:


My ISP is LineONE http://www.lineone.net, and I have a generic
CompUSA-type external modem. I just need to know how to write proper
connection scripts (I think...).


Run pppconfig as root and fill in the blanks.  Start your connection with
pon, monitor it with plog, and stop it with poff.  No need to write any
scripts.

Upgrade ppp and pppconfig to potato first, though.



Another option is wvdial, which (in Woody at least), has enough 
intelligence to search for your modem and make intelligent guesses as to 
configuration parameters. It'll also redail automatically if the 
connection gets dropped, which is handy in my case since I have an ISP 
with a three-hour limit.


Kent (hoping this first email out from a fresh install of Woody  
Mozilla doesn't send in HTML)




Re: tkdvi ? problem

2000-11-05 Thread Shaul Karl
 Hi gentlemens ! 
 
 My question is regarding the a dvi-viewer - tkdvi - what happends is 
 after installation via dselect, happends ... nothing , that is no tkdvi
 appears. Can anybody advise please ? 
 


What do you mean? Are you trying to issue
tkdvi 
at an xterm prompt and nothing happen?
Are there any messages in ~/.xsession-errors about it?


 PS I checked xgdvi but it's at unstable and require to upgrade libc6 and I
 would like to stay away from that.
  
 Thank you ,
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Re: Making the computer less noisy

2000-11-05 Thread Andre Berger
Krzys Majewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Jean-Michel Kelbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  i am wondering if there is a way to make the computer less noisy at some
  moment (the NIGHT). What I mean is that the CPU fan does a lot of noise,
  and the Hd too. Is there a porgram to make the cpu fan less rotating (if
  the cpu doesn't work !)

 2) hdparm -y /dev/hda (or whatever your hard drive is called)

Laptop folks use it together with 'noflushd'. Better, not
perfect. Think of all the cron jobs and the like.

 3) apm --suspend. This shuts down the CPU fan if you tell the BIOS
 to do so (via the BIOS/CMOS setup at boot time). 

You should be aware that desktop- or server HDDs, in contrast to
laptop-HDDs, are not made to spin up and constantly. A 12-hour-turnus
it's probably acceptable, but you will shorten the HDDs'
lifetime. Perhaps the best idea I saw was put the machine into another
room (if you can), and use an old (or Apple-, a cheap 68k model with
color display will do) laptop without fan to display the server's X
output via ethernet.

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Re: Opera for Linux

2000-11-05 Thread Phillip Deackes
marco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 have you tried konqueror? it's really a good browser, not only a file 
 manager. I use it and I enjoy it: it rarely crashes, is faster to load
 than 
 netscape and mozilla (I uninstalled them both!) and is quite smart.
 
I have had a look at it when I tried KDE2, but I use Gnome so haven't
bothered much. Having said that,  Opera might as well be a KDE app . . 


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Re: Opera for Linux

2000-11-05 Thread Phillip Deackes
Kristian Rink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 H, my $0.02 is that I am running (Debian) GNU/Linux for 99.95%
 because of the licensing and distribution policies and ethics, so
 Opera as another closed-source commercial application is not an option
 to me...

I can understand that, however I have no problem with commercial apps. I
like the fact that I have a *choice*. My system runs a range of apps
from GNU to commercial. I use Linux because I like it and it is good. If
it cost me money I would still be using it!

 Even though I agree on that statement, getting back on that licensing
 stuff, I *hardly* can imagine Opera being *the* best application in
 this OS, because the way this product is distributed and brought to
 the customers totally conflicts *everything* Linux stands for... from
 that point of view, I rather would wait for a Netscape 12 one day
 (which then hopefully displays secure ml and each of the thousand
 proprietary media-plug-ins we will have to face, in the year 2010)
 than consider using Opera on my system.

I don't see why a commercial app can't be *the* best app - the
commercial model is just one way of producing and distributing software,
it surely has little bearing on how good the app is.

 As already mentioned, try to get Yourself Mozilla and use one of those
 lighter browsers (galeon, skipstone) on top of it, or use lynx for
 fastest information retrieval in worldwide web KDE-Konqueror seems
 to be fine, as well... :D

I shall have a look at galeon - I found skipstone too basic for what I
need.

Chhers Kristian. Take care.


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New X Server crashes

2000-11-05 Thread Michael Abraham Shulman
Hi,

I just upgraded all the X packages to 4+ versions in unstable, and now
my X server won't run.  It dies with the error message

 *** None of the configured devices were detected.***

Fatal server error:
no screens found

It was working yesterday and the only thing I changed was installing
the new X packages.  Any ideas what's gone wrong?  My X server is
SVGA 3.3.6.  I can provide more information about any part of my
system upon request.

Thanks,
Mike



Re: SB Live! (Xgamer) with Debian Woody

2000-11-05 Thread m_g_m
Sorry, 
but isn't the SB-Live already included into the 2.2.17-kernel?
why not compiling a new one then?
greetings,
Michael

Hello,
 
 After managing to get my XFree86 4.0.1 running last night (which
 seemed an achievement) I set upon setting up an SB Live! (Xgamer)... I
 downloaded the drivers from opensource.creative.com and compiled them
 with few warnings.  I then did a 'make install' and got the following
 messages:
 
 mkdir -p /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc
 install -c -m 664 emu10k1.o /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc
 install -c -m 664 ac97_codec.o /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc
 mkdir -p /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc
 install -c -m 664 emu10k1-joy.o /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc
 /sbin/depmod -a 2.2.17
 depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/emu10k1.o
 /sbin/modprobe -r emu10k1.o emu10k1-joy.o ac97_codec.o 
 
 Has anyone else experienced these problems?  I've done some hunting
 through FAQs and noticed someone saying to set MODVERSIONS in the
 Makefile to 'y' and INCLUDEDIR to '/usr/src/linux/include'... neither
 MODVERSIONS or INCLUDEDIR is to be found in the Makefile but I added
 those lines in anyway... same problem happened.
 
 I've checked the kernel (with 'modconf') to make sure Sound support
 is installed and it apparently is, although soundcore isn't a loaded
 module (should it be?).
 
 The only other thing I've checked is the output from 'dmesg':
 
 ..
 ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
 ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
 Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
 sb: dsp reset failed.
 Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
 sb: dsp reset failed.
 Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
 sb: dsp reset failed.
 Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
 sb: dsp reset failed.
 Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
 sb: dsp reset failed.
 Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
 sb: dsp reset failed.
 Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
 sb: dsp reset failed.
 
 If anyone can point me in the right direction it'd be much
 appreciated.  I'm running Woody which I've been keeping up-to-date
 daily with apt-get.
 
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aside: perl's unpack()

2000-11-05 Thread Damien
  I can tell you an easier way to decipher them, but I too would like to
  know how they are contructed, i.e what's the algorithm.
 
 a.b.c.d
 
 n = d + c * 256 + b * 256 ^ 2 + a * 256 ^ 3

after reading the previous mail, this is what i was thinking. i went to test
it in perl afterwards, but got the wrong result. could anyone tell me what's
wrong with my interpretation?

perl -le '$, = .; print unpack(C4, 2704935062);'

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Re: sticky bit, powersaving hdd spindown

2000-11-05 Thread Damien
 
 Under DOS there was the possibility of treating some of your RAM like a
 disk (hence the name ramdisk).  Not sure if Linux can do this, but if
 so, then just copy the binary to a ramdisk and run it from there.
 

thanks for the tip. that looks like the best plan of action.

cheers.


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Re: New X Server crashes

2000-11-05 Thread Phillip Deackes
Michael Abraham Shulman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I just upgraded all the X packages to 4+ versions in unstable, and now
 my X server won't run.  It dies with the error message
 
  *** None of the configured devices were detected.***
 
 Fatal server error:
 no screens found
 
 It was working yesterday and the only thing I changed was installing
 the new X packages.  Any ideas what's gone wrong?  My X server is
 SVGA 3.3.6.  I can provide more information about any part of my
 system upon request.

When I did 'apt-get -u dist-upgrade' I noticed that
task-x-window-system-core was maked as held back. After the upgrade I
still had my v3.3.6 servers on the system. I did 'apt-get install
task-x-window-system-core' and the final part of the new X install was
carried out. After that everything ran fine. It looked like it needed a
two stage upgrade.


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Re: installing without a cd-rom

2000-11-05 Thread wulfie
If the other pcs are networked simply mount the cd on one and use an ftp
or nfs link.

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 Hello!
 
My computers cd-rom does not work at all. I have
 Debian on CD, so I was wondering if there is anyway I
 can still install it onto the system? I have like 4
 other computers, so is there anyway I can jus put it
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Re: SIS 900 NIC

2000-11-05 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Sun, Nov 05, 2000 at 03:15:14PM -0700, Arthur H. Edwards wrote:
 The problem is during the install. After I install the Kernel and during
 the configuration of device drivers, when I try to install the sis9000
 driver I get the usual error resonses
 
 insmod sis900 failed
No more error messages? hm, check with /proc if there are any resource
conflicts with other cards or something like this.
Or generally try the card in another slot of your board.

Cu,
Sven

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Re: Opera for Linux

2000-11-05 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Sun, Nov 05, 2000 at 09:32:03AM +, Phillip Deackes wrote:
 marco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  have you tried konqueror? it's really a good browser, not only a file 
  manager. I use it and I enjoy it: it rarely crashes, is faster to load
  than 
  netscape and mozilla (I uninstalled them both!) and is quite smart.
  
 I have had a look at it when I tried KDE2, but I use Gnome so haven't
 bothered much. Having said that,  Opera might as well be a KDE app . . 
Opera is QT2 based, yes. You've the opportunity to download a staticly
or dynamicly linked version. So with the staticly linked one you can
use it under every WM you like.

Cu,
Sven

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Re: Opera for Linux

2000-11-05 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 11:18:55PM +0100, Kristian Rink wrote:
 Obviously Phillip Deackes [EMAIL PROTECTED]  thinks that:

Hi,
 
  Netscape is well known as being one of the worst Linux apps.
 
 True, sadly... As already mentioned, try to get Yourself Mozilla and use one 
 of those lighter browsers (galeon, skipstone) on top of it, or use lynx for 
 fastest information retrieval in worldwide web KDE-Konqueror seems to be 
 fine, as well... :D

Don't think that Netscape is so bad. The 4.76 release seems to be
something like a stable browser. ;-) In the last holidays I was
forced to use a console based browser and I found out that w3m is much
more comfortable then lynx cause it's able to render tables and frames. 

Cu,
Sven

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Re: New X Server crashes

2000-11-05 Thread Michael Abraham Shulman
Phillip == Phillip Deackes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

MAS I just upgraded all the X packages to 4+ versions in unstable, and now
MAS my X server won't run.

Phillip When I did 'apt-get -u dist-upgrade' I noticed that
Phillip task-x-window-system-core was maked as held back. After the
Phillip upgrade I still had my v3.3.6 servers on the system. I did
Phillip 'apt-get install task-x-window-system-core' and the final
Phillip part of the new X install was carried out. After that
Phillip everything ran fine. It looked like it needed a two stage
Phillip upgrade.

Okay, it appears to be working now.  What I did was:

1. `apt-get install task-x-window-system-core'
2. Manually edit /etc/X11/Xserver to refer to /usr/bin/X11/XFree86.
3. Run `xf86config' to generate a new valid config file.
4. Copy a ModeLine directive from my old XF86Config file.

Of these, 1, 3, and 4 could be better documented, and 2 shouldn't be
necessary at all, since I did tell it when installing to make itself
the default X server.  Of course I could have screwed up somewhere
else.

And now Emacs can display italics in the standard font!  Woo-hoo!

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Re: Opera for Linux

2000-11-05 Thread Kristian Rink
Obviously Phillip Deackes [EMAIL PROTECTED]  thinks that:

 I can understand that, however I have no problem with commercial apps. I
 like the fact that I have a *choice*. My system runs a range of apps
 from GNU to commercial. I use Linux because I like it and it is good. If
 it cost me money I would still be using it!

No problem, I wouldn't mind, like, paying $ to get a cd-rom of, let's say, 
GNOME or Mozilla, I will support and buy HelixGnome as soon as it's available 
for sale here, in Germany, and I am sure I also would spend money on OpenOffice 
as soon as it's released, since having a thin modem wire connecting me to the 
internet, download is probably more expensive... But that's not the point to 
me, since I really see the *freedom* of GPL not mainly as a freedom of not 
having to pay for it... Then again, I am doing a lot of computer installations 
for friends and relatives (mainly, to spread Linux around), and, with licenses 
like of Opera (for as far as I read it), or the ports of apps Corel did, to 
Linux, I am not allowed to give this software (in fully) to anybody else... And 
*that* is my problem with those programs. :))

 I don't see why a commercial app can't be *the* best app - the
 commercial model is just one way of producing and distributing software,
 it surely has little bearing on how good the app is.

See above. :)) No problem with commercial apps, but here I see a ***total*** 
collision of basic licensing models... Pack a commercially sold app package 
(like, HelixGnome or StarOffice) which *still* runs under GPL as an additional 
software to Linux, and everything is fine. :))
Well... guess I am a little *fanatic* on that GPL thing, but, said again, it's 
the reason why I am using Linux. ;))
 
 
 Chhers Kristian. Take care.


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Hi I am having a problem with X.

2000-11-05 Thread Gurpreet Singh
Hi,
   If any one who can help me, I am a new user of debian, I am
working on Intel 810 chipset but debian refuse to make X work on the in
built AGP so, I am currently using the shell  is deprived of use of X,
So any body out there have any idea about the problem

Thanks,
Gurpreet



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Re: New X Server crashes

2000-11-05 Thread Michael Abraham Shulman
I wrote:

MAS Okay, it appears to be working now.

Well, more or less.  Everything runs fine with `startx', but I'm
having some peculiar difficulties with xdm.  Specifically,

1. xdm now takes over a minute from when the daemon is started, either
   by init or manually, to when the login widget appears.  Is this
   normal now, or is there anything I can do to speed it up?

2. Does anyone have any clue what could cause an xdm-started X server
   to use a different video mode than an xinit-started X server?
   Because that's what it's doing.  I copied a 1152x864 mode line from
   my old XF86Config file, and it works fine with startx, but when run
   from xdm, the X server reverts to 1024x768.

Thanks.

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Re: Q: What loaded /usr/i486-linuclibC1?

2000-11-05 Thread Jonathan Gift
Hi,

Back again... Got things working. I'm forwarding my log in case I did
anything wrong.

What loaded /usr/i486-linuclibC1?
Now had a new /usr/i486-linuxlibC1. Noticed with dpkg -S that it made
the directories. Checked status and xlib6 installed as optional
priority. Further checking showed that xlib6g installed all it's
pointing to. In the xlib6.list file is Nov 2 unlike xlib6 Aug 01 and it
wasn't required by Gimp before that. I removed xlibc6 and it took xaw3d
with it. I ran ldconfig and got a missing xaw3d as above. Installed
xaw3dg this time since it seemed to fit with xlib6g. No libc6 required
here, but all Athena widget apps took on a 3d Motif look. I removed
xaw3dg and got an ldconfig reference to the missind xaw3d again. This
time I removed all reference to xaw3d in the ld.so.conf file and
ldconfig ran okay. I installed and removed xaw3dg this time without
comment. It looks like a program placed xawd in the ld.so.conf file and
it caused problems everytime I installed another program and it called
on ldconfig.

Thanks for the help. I hoep I did right. You helped me in the right
direction, though I wass up until 4am figuring out ldconfig ;)

Jonathan



Q: Log kept what install and when

2000-11-05 Thread Jonathan Gift
Hi,

Is there a log  kept by dpkg/apt-get/dselect of what installed and by date?
Check status file reveals whether something is installed only.

Thanks,

Jonathan



Re: ISP Configuration help, please.

2000-11-05 Thread John Hasler
Kent West writes:
 Another option is wvdial, which (in Woody at least), has enough
 intelligence to search for your modem...

Pppconfig can do this.

 It'll also redail automatically if the connection gets dropped,...

And this.
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Re: test patterns for adjusting monitor?

2000-11-05 Thread Philipp Schulte
On Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 08:58:01PM -0800, Krzys Majewski wrote: 

 Anyone  have  test  patterns  for  help  with  adjusting  the  various
 parameters of a CRT monitor? 

On http://www.heise.de/ct/ftp/ there is a tool called ctscreen which
should work pretty good. It is written in Java. The zipped archive
contains a file ctscreen.bat which is supposed to be run under
WinXX. What it actually does is calling the Java-Runtime. 
I never tried but it should be possible to run this with linux.
Phil



Re: sed question (bibtex problem)

2000-11-05 Thread Daniel Reuter
Hello Brian,

Check this:

sed '/%$/{
N
s/%\n//
}' yourfile.bib

It should work from command line using bash's multiline input capability
(with the '). It checks for % at the end of lines (hence the $), then
reads the next line into the buffer and then removes the %\n sequence (I
don't quite understand, why sed can't do it with the one-liner you
mentioned, but I guess there's a good reason).
Regards,
Daniel

 On Fri, 3 Nov 2000, Brian May wrote:
 
  bibtex likes to word-wrap/mangle/destroy my long lines (eg. URLs) into
  this form:
  
  \bibitem[Mic00]{Microsoft2000}
  Microsoft.
  \newblock Windows 2000 kerberos authentication.
  \newblock White paper, Microsoft, January 2000.
  \newblock

  \url=http://www.microsoft.com/technet/win2000/win2ksrv/technote/kerberos.asp%
  =.
  
  which is interpreted by LaTeX to display a percent sign at the end of
  the URL :-(




Re: SB Live! (XGamer)...

2000-11-05 Thread Matthias Czapla
13sQQS-05t-00
 After managing to get my XFree86 4.0.1 running last night (which
 seemed an achievement) I set upon setting up an SB Live! (Xgamer)... I
 downloaded the drivers from opensource.creative.com and compiled them
 with few warnings.  I then did a 'make install' and got the following
 messages:
 
 mkdir -p /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc
 install -c -m 664 emu10k1.o /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc
 install -c -m 664 ac97_codec.o /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc
 mkdir -p /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc
 install -c -m 664 emu10k1-joy.o /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc
 /sbin/depmod -a 2.2.17
 depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/emu10k1.o
 /sbin/modprobe -r emu10k1.o emu10k1-joy.o ac97_codec.o 
 
 Has anyone else experienced these problems?  I've done some hunting
 through FAQs and noticed someone saying to set MODVERSIONS in the
 Makefile to 'y' and INCLUDEDIR to '/usr/src/linux/include'... neither
 MODVERSIONS or INCLUDEDIR is to be found in the Makefile but I added
 those lines in anyway... same problem happened.
 
 I've checked the kernel (with 'modconf') to make sure Sound support
 is installed and it apparently is, although soundcore isn't a loaded
 module (should it be?).

Yes it has to be a module (just Sound Support, nothing else, no
SoundBlaster Support!)
In Kernel 2.2.17 there is direct Support for SB Live!. Just compile it
in.

 
 The only other thing I've checked is the output from 'dmesg':
 
 ...
 ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
 ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
 Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
 sb: dsp reset failed.
 Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
 sb: dsp reset failed.
 Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996

 Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
 sb: dsp reset failed.
 Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
 sb: dsp reset failed.
 Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
 sb: dsp reset failed.
 Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
 sb: dsp reset failed.

This is probably the driver for old Soundblasters.

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lost my backspace key

2000-11-05 Thread David Bellows
Hello everyone,

Hopefully this will be an easy one.  I just installed the lbreakout game
from unstable.  It updated a couple of X packages enroute.  They didn't
look like they were anything critical so I let it go ahead and do it. 
But now I've discovered a problem, my backspace key no longer works.  I
have a basic 101 key keyboard (no windows keys).  Obviously backspace
used to work for me, what can I do to get it working again?

Thanks,
David Bellows



Re: email alias postfix procmail

2000-11-05 Thread dirk
Problem solved. I hate it when things are sooo easy once you
have figured it out.

Just to save a few hours for someone else:

Use fetchmail. There seem to be some issues about multidrop
stuff, read the man page. 

using fetchmail, your fetchmailrc looks like this:

set postmaster dirk
poll pop.xs4all.nl aka xs4all.nl with proto POP3
   user dirk there with password very-secret  
  to dirk 
  to adb=anna 
  limit 10 warnings 3600
this to adb=anna delivers [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] This configuration wasn't hard to find,
but, it didn't work without the aka xs4all.nl So I spent
hours looking for what was wrong and just overlooked this
simple aka.

I am curious why it is important. If someone could explain? 


Dirk



Re: Upgrading video card: Best of these three?

2000-11-05 Thread Sean
On Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 04:34:28PM -0200, Rogerio Brito wrote:
---snip---
 
   This is what made me choose a Matrox G400 for my new system
   (together with the recommendation of a close friend that said
   the G400 was running quite fast in his system).
 
---snip---

I also opted for a G400, and have been extremely pleased. I started using 
the XFree86 4.0 debs back when they were phase1, and have never had a problem.

And even though I'm not a big gamer, the G400 can run Unreal Tournament well
enough for me. I would talk about the 2D quality, but hey ... it's Matrox, and 
that does tend to speak for itself when it comes to 2D.

Anyway, I expect you'll be quite pleased with your choice.

Sean



My GNOME desktop doesn't appear

2000-11-05 Thread Karl Philipp

Hi,

I updated several packages regarding to X-Windows, enlightenment
and GNOME.

Now, if I do a login via the X-Windows login, the X-Windows login will
re-appear.

In the file ~/.xsession-errors you can read

Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
xrdb: Can't open display ':0'
Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
xrdb: Can't open display ':0'
Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
xrdb: Can't open display ':0'
Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
xrdb: Can't open display ':0'
Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
xmodmap:  unable to open display ':0'
/usr/bin/X11/gnome: usr/bin/X11/enlightenment: No such file or directory
Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server

Thank you for your solutions and help.

greetings

 Karl

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Re: SIS 900 NIC

2000-11-05 Thread Rafael A . Schmitt
* Art Edwards ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 I'm trying (very patiently) to do a network install using a system with
 an embedded SIS 900. I have tried to install the sis900.0 module without
 success. This is particularly frustrating because the card was
 recognized and used on the same box with the Caldera open linux
 distribution. Any help would be apreciated
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Re: DEBIAN 2.2: LOCAL PRINTER INSTALLATION

2000-11-05 Thread Yves POCCHIOLA
Thanks for the advices, I can print now ASCII and Postscript  with apsfilter 
and LPRng
packages.

Apsfilter configuration setting was proposed during the installation by the 
Debian
tool: dselect.

I tried first to use the magicfilter package but I missed the first time to 
activate
properly the configuration and I was not given a second chance to run the
configuration even after removing and installing again the package.

Mario Vukelic a écrit :

  Yves POCCHIOLA wrote:
I have replaced today  my Suse2.3 version of Linux by a  Debian 2.2 . I
managed to get a working installalion at the exception of the local
printer (HP Desk Jet 510 on parallel port). I didn't notice any question
during the installation process concerning the printer. I certainly
missed something but I don't know what. Does any one can help me ?
 
  If you are using the supplied kernel you need to choose to install
  parallel port and printer kernel modules.
 
  That done, you also need to install a spooler package such as LPRng.

 And magicfilter or apsfilter if you don't have a postscript printer.
 I've seen most people here suggest magicfilter. I came from suse, too and was
 used to apsfilter, so I used that. No problems. the apsfilter setup program is
 called apsfilterconfig in Debian, standard is SETUP. There seem to be some
 name clashes. IIRC it's configured automatically upon install.

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MC and .profile

2000-11-05 Thread Timo Benk
Hi,

I've set up an alias beep='echo -en \a' in my .profile file.
Now if I log into my account and execute beep my speaker beeps
as expected.
But if try to execute it out of the Midnight Commander it doesn't
work. What need I to do?

Another Thing related to that problem is that if I execute fetchmail out
of the Midnight Commander my mails are silently discarded and never arrive
in my mailbox. 

Any Ideas ?

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Re: X4 and a Trident Card? (was: Re: XFree86 4.0.1 and TrueType fonts)

2000-11-05 Thread John S. J. Anderson
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Rogerio Brito [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Nov 04 2000, John S. J. Anderson wrote:
  Once I got it working, however, I was quite impressed. It's
  noticeably faster than XFree 3.3.6 on window movement and screen
  redraws, even with the old 4 MB Trident card I've got.
 
   Old Trident Card? Hey, which one? We may be in the same boat.

It's a generic Trident 3Dimage 975 AGP card. 

   I've got a Trident 3D Image and it was a pain in the arse to
   get a Modeline working with 3.3.6 (X seems to misbehave with
   this card -- if I use a line that was supposedly to use a
   refresh rate of 60Hz, then sometimes I get my monitor saying
   that the signal it is receiving is for 20Hz or something else
   below its capabilities).

That's odd -- I never really had that much trouble with my monitor
(which is a generic 17 monitor from PCWarehouse). I can get 16bit
color in 1280x1024, and that's good enough for me.

   Which card do you have? I'm also a bit scared of upgrading to
   woody after I heard about the major breakage with the libc
   upgrade...

Well, that should be all better now, and the XFree update was pretty
pain-free (aside from a couple hours reading man pages and trying to
kludge together a XF86Config file...)

john.


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Re: Hi I am having a problem with X.

2000-11-05 Thread Mario Vukelic
 Hi,
If any one who can help me, I am a new user of debian, I am
 working on Intel 810 chipset but debian refuse to make X work on the in
 built AGP so, I am currently using the shell  is deprived of use of X,
 So any body out there have any idea about the problem
 
 Thanks,
 Gurpreet


IIRC there are instructions for i810 and X on http://www.intel.com/
I don't have an i810, therefore I'm not sure what's to be done exactly

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Re: DEBIAN 2.2: LOCAL PRINTER INSTALLATION

2000-11-05 Thread Mario Vukelic

 I tried first to use the magicfilter package but I missed the first time to 
 activate
 properly the configuration and I was not given a second chance to run the
 configuration even after removing and installing again the package.


I'm glad I could help. Probably you want to know that dpkg lets you
configure packages anytime after installation. From 'man dpkg':

dpkg --configure package ... | -a | --pending
  Reconfigure  an unpacked package.  If -a or --pend
  ing is given instead of package, all  unpacked  but
  unconfigured packages are configured.

  Configuring consists of the following steps:

  1.  Unpack the configuration files, and at the same
  time back up the old configuration files,  so  that
  they can be restored if something goes wrong.

  2. Run postinst script, if provided by the package.

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Re: DEBIAN 2.2: LOCAL PRINTER INSTALLATION

2000-11-05 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sun, Nov 05, 2000 at 04:38:08PM +0100, Yves POCCHIOLA wrote:
 Thanks for the advices, I can print now ASCII and Postscript  with
 apsfilter and LPRng packages.
 
 Apsfilter configuration setting was proposed during the installation
 by the Debian tool: dselect.
 
 I tried first to use the magicfilter package but I missed the first
 time to activate properly the configuration and I was not given a
 second chance to run the configuration even after removing and
 installing again the package.

man magicfilterconfig

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Re: Which editor for programming?

2000-11-05 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Sun, Nov 05, 2000 at 06:37:33PM +1100, Damon Muller wrote:
 
 Umm... Basically I just made a point to learn enough about both of them. 

Yeah, me too. 

 Vim is very cool, and fast, and has great syntax highlighting, and is
 perfect for just about everything. But when it came to my thesis using
 LaTeX, I figured I needed something with a bit more balls - something
 that was written for hard-core document production. So I bit the bullet
 and decided to learn EMACS. The main thing I did was to sit down and
 work through the tutorial, which was very helpful. 

I'd still like to explore the LaTeX mode for Emacs, but I've written so
many abbreviations for LaTeX now, I'm not sure I need them anymore. 

 I think the idea of using emacs to emulate vi is a little disturbing,
 frankly! It's a bit like sitting on top of a tank and pretending it's a
 mountain bike.

*laugh* More like pretending it's a hotrod. ;-)

I find the keybindings in (X)Emacs way too arthritic for me. I can go much
faster in Vi, and then with the features in Vim... Well, it's all I need. The
final straw for me was the broken Perl modes. I do too much Perl coding to put
up with that. 

Mike

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Re: XFree86 4.0.1 and TrueType fonts

2000-11-05 Thread wulfie
http://www.mindspring.com/~john_mcl/adding_fonts.html
This is not XF4-specific but does give a good guide to getting ttfs
running in X in general, plus all the required tools can be downloaded in
a single tarball.
It would make sense if ttmkfdir was included with freetype, but it appears
not to be.
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  ttmkfdir in the ttf dir :) Add the path to your fonts section in
  XF86Config, freetype to the modules section (you already did both, it
  seems)  you're there.
 
 What's the exact path to ttmkfdir on your box? I don't seem to have
 it, nor do I have a ttf dir -- at least, 'locate /ttf/' doesn't
 produce anything. I've got freetype in the modules section, and I've
 got the path to the TrueType font directory as a FontPath, but I don't
 get any TrueType fonts available in various font selection dialogs,
 and nothing at all in the ttf foundry (which is where all the fonts
 ended up when using xfstt).
 
 Any other advice on where to start digging for this info? Most of the
 web (including my own site, sadly enough) doesn't look all that great
 in GUI browsers without the 'standard' fonts...
 
 john.
 
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Re: G400, DRI, X4, and 4 million dollars

2000-11-05 Thread Adam Lazur
Mike Cathcart ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:

  Well, ok, I lied, but who was going to read another boring email about the 
 G400 and DRI? Well, enough for sensationalistic email...
[ snip ]
 glxinfo output:
 
[ snip ]
 OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
 OpenGL version string: 1.2 Mesa 3.4
[ snip ]

Looks like you're using the Mesa libs. When I got dri rocking with xf4 and
a G400, I downloaded the binary of libGL from xf4 and the binary of libGLU
(or something along those lines) from dri.sourceforge.net. I don't know if
the xf4 libGL and libGLU are packaged for debian or not...

My experience with the Matrox dri drivers is that they work alright for
3D, but hose the 2d display stuff (weird lines all over the place). So you
either run X to run 3D stuff (in 16bpp no less), or  you run it to do 2D
stuff (and get some real work done).

.adam

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Re: Q: Can E menu use console commands?

2000-11-05 Thread Adam Lazur
Jonathan Gift ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
 In MWM I could pass shell commands as a menu, and I think Window Maker
 allowed it. Can I do it in Enlightenment? I want to use the
 import -root... to take a screenshot. Other uses come to mind.

Why not edit ~/.enlightenment/file.menu (and the other menus it points to) ?

.adam

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apache sending request to old hostname

2000-11-05 Thread Debian Ghost
Hello All,
I have a strange thing going on with apache and I'm not sure why this is
happening. 

When I put a request in from my localhost to go to
http://localhost/. It will work. But when I try to go to
localhost/anything, it tries to send me to my hold hostname. I've looked
in apache.conf and see no instances of my old hostname. I do not know
where apache is getting the info to send requests to the old host name.

Does anyone have any ideas what could be going on?

Thanks!

D. Ghost



Re: XFree86 4.0.1 and Voodoo3 -- how do I test?

2000-11-05 Thread Adam Lazur
Thomas J. Hamman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
 Okay, I have the latest 2.4.0 test kernel compiled with DRI and the 3dfx
 driver, I have XFree86 4.0.1 running fine
 
 Now how do I even find out if I have 3D hardware acceleration working?

Check out dri.sourceforge.net

.adam

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non-US/main section

2000-11-05 Thread milenium moon
I come from Indonesia. I want ask you about
licensing/limitation of use from non-US/main section
that include in Debian 2.2 Official CDs. If in my CDs
contain non-US/main section (application/software)
is legal or ilegal if I instal to my computer (on one
computer) and how if I want install to more than one
computer, is this legal or ilegal ?

Please explain to me, this section confiusing for me.

Sorry if my english word not well.

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KDE2 problems

2000-11-05 Thread Daniel Borgmann
hello!

i installed the kde2 debs and everthing worked fine.
then i made an update and now i can't start it at all.
the output in .xsession-error is:
*snip*
ksplash: error in loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3: 
undefined symbol: getButtonShift__14QPlatinumStyleRiT1
kdeinit: error in loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3: 
undefined symbol: getButtonShift__14QPlatinumStyleRiT1
knotify: error in loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3: 
undefined symbol: getButtonShift__14QPlatinumStyleRiT1
ksmserver: error in loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3: 
undefined symbol: getButtonShift__14QPlatinumStyleRiT1   
*snip*

maybe the packages from http://kde.tdyc.com are broken?
are there any other places where i can get KDE2 packages?
and how can i find out in which package libkdecore.so.3 is included?

- Daniel



apt-get through a proxy ?

2000-11-05 Thread Gyulai Mihaly
I can't go through our intranet proxy, although I configure my
apt.conf file to use it...

Is there a HOWTO about 'apt-get' ? (and other 'apt' programs?)

Please show me an URL, where I can see a usable 'apt.conf' file
using a proxy...

Thanks.

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Re: lost my backspace key - solved, new question

2000-11-05 Thread David Bellows
Hello everyone,

OK, I checked out the manpage for xmodmap and figured out how to get my
backspace key to work properly.  I then inserted the following line into
my ~/.bashrc file:
xmodmap -e keycode 22 = BackSpace
This does work. My question is, is this the best place to put such a
command?  Is there a better way to solve the problem?  BTW, I discovered
that my backspace key had been remapped to delete, giving me two delete
buttons.

Thanks,
David Bellows


David Bellows wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 Hopefully this will be an easy one.  I just installed the lbreakout game
 from unstable.  It updated a couple of X packages enroute.  They didn't
 look like they were anything critical so I let it go ahead and do it.
 But now I've discovered a problem, my backspace key no longer works.  I
 have a basic 101 key keyboard (no windows keys).  Obviously backspace
 used to work for me, what can I do to get it working again?
 
 Thanks,
 David Bellows



Re: non-US/main section

2000-11-05 Thread David Z Maze
milenium moon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
mm I come from Indonesia. I want ask you about
mm licensing/limitation of use from non-US/main section
mm that include in Debian 2.2 Official CDs. If in my CDs
mm contain non-US/main section (application/software)
mm is legal or ilegal if I instal to my computer (on one
mm computer) and how if I want install to more than one
mm computer, is this legal or ilegal ?
mm 
mm Please explain to me, this section confiusing for me.

Files in non-US/main have free licenses (e.g. GPL, Artistic, c.) but
can't be directly exported from the United States, generally because
they contain cryptographic software.  You should check your local
restrictions on the use of such software, but beyond that there should 
be no legal issues with duplicating the CDs or installing the software 
on multiple machines.

(Files in non-free have various restrictive licenses such that this
condition probably doesn't hold.  Files in contrib are free, but
generally require non-free software to usefully work.  An official CD
set should only contain free software, so this shouldn't be a problem.)

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Woody clobbers Blackdown!

2000-11-05 Thread Bob Bernstein
I finally put a bullet in my teeth and dist-upgraded a potato system to woody.
In potato I had been running communicator-smotif with the Blackdown Java
plugin. Here's what I have now, post-upgrade:

communicator-base 4.73-19Communicator base support
communicator-nethelp-473  4.73-19Communicator online help 
communicator-smotif-473   4.73-19Netscape Communicator 4.73 
communicator-spellchk 4.73-19

netscape-base-4   4.75-2 Popular World-Wide-Web browser 
netscape-base-473 4.73-194.73 base support for netscape
netscape-java-473 4.73-19Netscape Java support for version 
netscape-smotif-473   4.73-19This installs a standard set of 

java-common   0.4Base of all Java packages
j2sdk1.3  1.3.0-2Blackdown Java(TM) 2 SDK

SO, starting netscape now, I get the following:

--- begin nfg snip ---

INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: Could not load
/usr/lib/j2re1.3/lib/i386/libjavaplugin_oji.so: linking error=undefined
symbol: PR_GetCurrentThread

System error?:: Success

--- end-nfg-snip ---

How to resolve this? Somehow Woody has put the kibosh on Blackdown java.
Here's one more piece of data, ldd on the above-cited libjavaplugin_oji.so:

bash-2.04$ ldd /usr/lib/j2re1.3/lib/i386/libjavaplugin_oji.so
libgdk-1.2.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgdk-1.2.so.0 (0x4005c000)
libBrokenLocale.so.1 = /lib/libBrokenLocale.so.1 (0x4009)
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40092000)
libgmodule-1.2.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgmodule-1.2.so.0 (0x40199000)
libglib-1.2.so.0 = /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 (0x4019d000)
libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x401bf000)
libXi.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXi.so.6 (0x401c2000)
libXext.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x401ca000)
libX11.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x401d8000)
libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x402a3000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x8000)

I'm guessing that one of these is supposed to define PR_GetCurrentThread but
doesn't anymore since the upgrade?

TIA for any light shed on these murky precincts!




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RE: apt-get through a proxy ?

2000-11-05 Thread Jason Holland
I set my shell env settings http_proxy and ftp_proxy and it works perfect.

Jason


 I can't go through our intranet proxy, although I configure my
 apt.conf file to use it...

 Is there a HOWTO about 'apt-get' ? (and other 'apt' programs?)

 Please show me an URL, where I can see a usable 'apt.conf' file
 using a proxy...

 Thanks.

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Re: Opera for Linux

2000-11-05 Thread USM Bish
When I first  commenced this thread three days ago,
my intentions were  two-fold. Firstly,  the need to
scout for a suitable replacement for my out of date 
Netscape 4.51.  Secondly, because of a lot of  hype 
in our local WIA / WAP hardware circuits (and else-
where in Asia I suppose)  on the prospects of Linux  
entering the WIA / WAP arena here, (which as of now 
is a monopoly of M$)  with the  Opera for  Linux as 
the main browser!

I am  attaching a  clipping from  Issue 59 of Linux
Gazette (Nov 2k) for those interested.

It is my gut feeling, that there will be more Linux
desktops using  Opera as the  prime  browser within
the next one year than one can expect .. 

I feel happy that Linux is now a main stream OS and
commercial enterprises are opening up  all over the
world.

I am sure licensing aspects (closed source),  would 
perhaps be against the very  ethos of all true GNU/
Linux loyalists.  But that's the way the world is !
Surely, organised  projects cannot  survive without
recourse to a source of revenue.

Today is my second day I am using the beta .. Opera
is surely a thing to look out for  and very
soon too, if they want to  take on  M$  in the WIA/ 
WAP market!

USM Bish



clip - [LG Issue 59] --

Sept. 25, 2000: Opera Software, PalmPalm Technology Inc., and 
Trolltech announce the formation of a strategic alliance for 
the Asian wireless Linux market. The companies will jointly 
develop Linux Total Solution for Wireless Internet Appliance 
for hardware manufacturers in the wireless Internet space. 

Linux Total Solution for Wireless Internet Appliance consists of 
Opera's Opera for Linux Web browser, Trolltech's Qt/Embedded, 
an embedded GUI environment and windowing system, integrated with 
PalmPalm's Tynux, a Linux Operating System optimized for the 
wireless Internet. This is to provide a complete embedded Linux 
solution for wireless Internet devices.

/clip -

 
On Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 11:18:55PM +0100, Kristian Rink wrote:

 Obviously Phillip Deackes [EMAIL PROTECTED]  thinks that:
 
  I have been waiting for Opera for Linux for *ages* and am very pleased
  indeed with what I have seen of the second beta. 
 
 H, my $0.02 is that I am running (Debian) GNU/Linux for 99.95% 
 because of the licensing and distribution policies and ethics, so 
 Opera as another closed-source commercial application is not an 
 option to me...
 
  Mozilla is just not usable at the moment
  and although it gets better with each nightly build it is still very
  fragile on my system.
 
 Well, I found M18 to work fine, even though I heard (and saw) that 
 the M$ Windows release of this browser works faster, and seems that 
 Netscape6 PR3 (for whichever reasons) in Linux also seems to be a 
 little faster than 'native' Mozilla... Personally, at the moment I am 
 using the Skipstone browser rendering sites with M18 through 
 gtkmozembed, and I am *very* pleased with this system (especially since 
 I don't need the mailer and newsreader and composer stuff of Netscape 
 but really just a plain browser). And, if speed matters, what do I 
 have lynx and links for? :)))
 
  Opera seems already robust. It has a nice interface and I would be very
  happy to use it as my interface with the web. Nowadays a web browser is
  so important and it really ought to be *the* best application on the OS.
 
 Even though I agree on that statement, getting back on that licensing 
 stuff, I *hardly* can imagine Opera being *the* best application in 
 this OS, because the way this product is distributed and brought to 
 the customers totally conflicts *everything* Linux stands for... from 
 that point of view, I rather would wait for a Netscape 12 one day 
 (which then hopefully displays secure ml and each of the thousand 
 proprietary media-plug-ins we will have to face, in the year 2010) 
 than consider using Opera on my system.
 
  Netscape is well known as being one of the worst Linux apps.
 
 True, sadly... As already mentioned, try to get Yourself Mozilla and 
 use one of those lighter browsers (galeon, skipstone) on top of it, 
 or use lynx for fastest information retrieval in worldwide web 
 KDE-Konqueror seems to be fine, as well...
 
 Regards,
 Kristian
 



problems with XSERVER after UPGRADE

2000-11-05 Thread Alessandro Ghigi

I am running woody on a laptop since one year. After the last upgrade
(i.e. last night) the xserver does not work. It complains that none of the
configured devices can be detected. I tried to reconfigure using
XF86Setup, and found that my card (NeoMagic NM256 et cetera) is not in the
list any more. 

Probably there are many things in my  XF86Config which could be better,
but anyway it worked for several months. And I find quite strange that the
card list is changed. 

I attach the errors given by startx and my XF86Config file.

Many thanks
Regards
Alessandro



XFree86 Version 3.3.6 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)
Release Date: January 8 2000
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: Linux 2.2.18pre15 i686 [ELF] 
Configured drivers:
  SVGA: server for SVGA graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 1):
  NV1, STG2000, RIVA 128, RIVA TNT, RIVA TNT2, RIVA ULTRA TNT2,
  RIVA VANTA, RIVA ULTRA VANTA, RIVA INTEGRATED, GeForce 256,
  GeForce DDR, Quadro, et3000, pvga1, wd90c00, wd90c10, wd90c30,
  wd90c24, wd90c31, wd90c33, gvga, sis86c201, sis86c202, sis86c205,
  sis86c215, sis86c225, sis5597, sis5598, sis6326, sis530, sis620,
  sis300, sis630, sis540, tvga8200lx, tvga8800cs, tvga8900b, tvga8900c,
  tvga8900cl, tvga8900d, tvga9000, tvga9000i, tvga9100b, tvga9200cxr,
  tgui9400cxi, tgui9420, tgui9420dgi, tgui9430dgi, tgui9440agi,
  cyber9320, tgui9660, tgui9680, tgui9682, tgui9685, cyber9382,
  cyber9385, cyber9388, cyber9397, cyber9520, cyber9525, 3dimage975,
  3dimage985, cyber9397dvd, blade3d, cyberblade, clgd5420, clgd5422,
  clgd5424, clgd5426, clgd5428, clgd5429, clgd5430, clgd5434, clgd5436,
  clgd5446, clgd5480, clgd5462, clgd5464, clgd5465, clgd6205, clgd6215,
  clgd6225, clgd6235, clgd7541, clgd7542, clgd7543, clgd7548, clgd7555,
  clgd7556, ncr77c22, ncr77c22e, cpq_avga, oti067, oti077, oti087,
  oti037c, al2101, ali2228, ali2301, ali2302, ali2308, ali2401, cl6410,
  cl6412, cl6420, cl6440, video7, ark1000vl, ark1000pv, ark2000pv,
  ark2000mt, mx, realtek, s3_savage, AP6422, AT24, AT3D, s3_svga,
  mediagx, p9100, smi
(using VT number 7)

XF86Config: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config
(**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
(**) XKB: keycodes: xfree86
(**) XKB: types: default
(**) XKB: compat: default
(**) XKB: symbols: us(pc101)
(**) XKB: geometry: pc
(**) XKB: keymap: xfree86(us) (overrides other XKB settings)
(**) XKB: rules: xfree86
(**) XKB: model: pc105
(**) XKB: layout: us
(**) XKB: options: ctrl:swapcaps
(**) Mouse: type: PS/2, device: /dev/psaux, buttons: 3
(**) Mouse: 3 button emulation (timeout: 50ms)
(**) SVGA: Graphics device ID: NeoMagic
(**) SVGA: Monitor ID: Dell
(**) FontPath set to 
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
(--) SVGA: PCI: NeoMagic Unknown chipset (0x0006) rev 0, Memory @ 0xf600, 
0xfdc0
SVGA: 'NM2200' is an invalid chipset
 *** None of the configured devices were detected.***


Fatal server error:
no screens found

When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send
the full server output, not just the last messages

XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server :0.0

  after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.



XF86Config.gz
Description: Binary data


X4 lacking color definitions

2000-11-05 Thread Brian
A fresh X install this morning made X4 an interesting surprise.

One problem which I don't know which package to report the bug
to. Help?

Programs like Netscape, fetchmailconf, etc consistently report
that they don't know colors anymore:

Warning: Color name black is not defined
Warning: Color name green is not defined
Warning: Color name red is not defined
Warning: Color name Gray60 is not defined
Warning: Color name Black is not defined
Warning: Color name Blue is not defined 

This produces several warning dialogs in Netscape, and prevents
programs like fetchmailconf from running.

Memory says there used to be a color definition file in the
/usr/X11R6/lib hierarchy, but no longer so.


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RE: XFree86 4.0.1 and TrueType fonts

2000-11-05 Thread Marc Wilson
It's not all that hard... I went through this last night.

Ok, I have my ttf fonts in /usr/share/lib/fonts/truetype.  I created a
symlink /usr/lib/X11/fonts/truetype to match the other font paths, and added
that to my fontpath list in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.  I then went there and
used ttmkfdir to create the fonts.dir file that the freetype module is
looking for.  Restarted X, and I had instant TrueType!

It really is just that simple.  I had zero luck getting xfstt to cooperate
with XF4, and had all sorts of weird font-isms until I disabled it.  Aterm
would display hash instead of line-drawing characters, rxvt wouldn't even
START, Eterm would start, but not display the menus properly, etc.

Of course, whoever it is at XFree86 that wrote README.fonts needs to be
shot.  With large-caliber weapons.

You can get ttmkfdir at http://freshmeat.net/projects/ttmkfdir

Have fun!

-
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.moonkingdom.net/mwilson

 -Original Message-
From:   John S. J. Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Saturday, November 04, 2000 10:31 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:Re: XFree86 4.0.1 and TrueType fonts

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wulfie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 ttmkfdir in the ttf dir :) Add the path to your fonts section in
 XF86Config, freetype to the modules section (you already did both, it
 seems)  you're there.

What's the exact path to ttmkfdir on your box? I don't seem to have
it, nor do I have a ttf dir -- at least, 'locate /ttf/' doesn't
produce anything. I've got freetype in the modules section, and I've
got the path to the TrueType font directory as a FontPath, but I don't
get any TrueType fonts available in various font selection dialogs,
and nothing at all in the ttf foundry (which is where all the fonts
ended up when using xfstt).

Any other advice on where to start digging for this info? Most of the
web (including my own site, sadly enough) doesn't look all that great
in GUI browsers without the 'standard' fonts...

john.

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Re: Can't login using WDM!

2000-11-05 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Sun, Nov 05, 2000 at 01:05:01PM -0500, S . Salman Ahmed wrote:
 
 Last night I upgraded all X packages to XFree4.0.1, and now I can't
 login to X using WDM. Every time I enter my userid and password in the
 WDM login panel, the login panel disappears, I see a plain grey
 background, and then the login panel reappears.
 
 Is there anyway to debug this problem to find out why this is happening
 ? And also, is there a quick fix for this ?
 
 I am using Wdm-1.19-4.2, and I noticed the problem right after I
 installed xbase-clients-4.0.1 (and xcontrib-3.3.6 was removed).

I've had this problem a couple times after upgrading core WindowMaker or X
packages.  I would guess it's a conflict between some of the old libraries
(still in use by wdm/the running X server) and the new ones (which newly-
started processes will access during the login/session startup sequence).

To get everyone using the same libraries again, restart wdm.
(/etc/init.d/wdm restart)

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Re: aside: perl's unpack()

2000-11-05 Thread Andy Bastien
There are those who would have you believe that Damien wrote:
   I can tell you an easier way to decipher them, but I too would like to
   know how they are contructed, i.e what's the algorithm.
  
  a.b.c.d
  
  n = d + c * 256 + b * 256 ^ 2 + a * 256 ^ 3
 
 after reading the previous mail, this is what i was thinking. i went to test
 it in perl afterwards, but got the wrong result. could anyone tell me what's
 wrong with my interpretation?
 
 perl -le '$, = .; print unpack(C4, 2704935062);'
 


IP networks use big-endian notation and PCs use little-endian; you
need to convert the value before splitting it back into octets: 


($a, $b, $c, $d) = split(/\./, 50.55.48.52);
$n = $d + ($c  8) + ($b  16) + ($a  24);
print $n = , join(., unpack(C4, pack(N, $n))), \n;


I'll leave it as an exercise to make this into a one-liner ;-).



gnome-ppp

2000-11-05 Thread Clayton Stapleton
Hi Folks;
Have Debian 2.2 running on a Pentium 166MMX, 2 hard drives, only one 
containing Debian. After configuring Gnome-ppp and attempt to dial
out get the following error The pppd died unexpectedly. So tried the
Help menu item on the Gnome-ppp window to have a look at any help
they had available and got the following:

Error loading document

ghelp:/usr/share/gnome/help/gnome-ppp/C/index.html

You probably don't have this document installed on your system.

Looked at /usr/share/gnome/help/gnome-ppp/C and sure enough
index.html is missing. Looked at all sources on the 3 CD's and
unable to locate missing file. Where can this be found?

TIA Clay Stapleton
Scottsdale, Arizona USA



Re: New X Server crashes

2000-11-05 Thread Andy Bastien
There are those who would have you believe that Michael Abraham Shulman wrote:
 I wrote:
 
 MAS Okay, it appears to be working now.
 
 Well, more or less.  Everything runs fine with `startx', but I'm
 having some peculiar difficulties with xdm.  Specifically,
 
 1. xdm now takes over a minute from when the daemon is started, either
by init or manually, to when the login widget appears.  Is this
normal now, or is there anything I can do to speed it up?

I don't know.  Maybe it's trying to resolve your hostname?

 
 2. Does anyone have any clue what could cause an xdm-started X server
to use a different video mode than an xinit-started X server?
Because that's what it's doing.  I copied a 1152x864 mode line from
my old XF86Config file, and it works fine with startx, but when run
from xdm, the X server reverts to 1024x768.


startx looks in the appropriate Screen section of your XF86Config for
the DefaultDepth, then uses the first entry of the Mode parameter for
the Display subsection that matches that color depth (I believe if
DefaultDepth is not specified, it just uses the first Display).  xdm
uses the entries in /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers; if it has a different
setting for the color depth it could affect which resolution you end
up with.





Re: test patterns for adjusting monitor?

2000-11-05 Thread Krzys Majewski
Philipp Schulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 08:58:01PM -0800, Krzys Majewski wrote: 
 
  Anyone  have  test  patterns  for  help  with  adjusting  the  various
  parameters of a CRT monitor? 
 
 On http://www.heise.de/ct/ftp/ there is a tool called ctscreen which
 should work pretty good. It is written in Java. The zipped archive
 contains a file ctscreen.bat which is supposed to be run under
 WinXX. What it actually does is calling the Java-Runtime. 
 I never tried but it should be possible to run this with linux.
 Phil

Thanks,
it  does run under  linux (though one  of the tests hung  my X
session, and another didn't seem to  work at all). Also it's in German,
so non-polyglots beware.. 
chris




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