Re: Kernel 2.4

2000-11-17 Thread jose
Agustín Martín Domingo writes:
  Ugo Enrico Albarello wrote:
   
   El Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 03:13:37PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] dijo:
Hola:
   
 Esta mañana me he puesto a compilar el kernel 2.4 con el make-kpkg y me
he encontrado con que los módulos los mete en otros directorios
que no son 
los habituales. ¿Cómo puedo cambiar eso y que me los deje donde siempre?
   
   No no hombre... no sea salvaje :o)
   
   En 2.4 se cambió la estructura de los módulos, asi que tranquilo que como
   está, está bien.
  
  Lo único es que a lo mejor necesitas actualizar el modutils si donde
  están te da algún problema

De hecho a mí me está dando problemas. En casa tengo una potato
instalada desde el principio y en el curro tengo una woody
actualizada. Cuando compilo en casa, al finalizar el proceso de
compilación + instalación + rebute, el modules.dep está vacio. Sin
embargo con las mismas fuentes, la misma versión del kernel
(2.4-test9) el proceso acaba perfecto. El 'modutils' está actualizado
en ambas máquinas (con versión 2.3.11-11 en potato, 2.3.19-1 en woody).

¿Alguna sugerencia?

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Re: Kernel 2.4

2000-11-17 Thread jose
jose writes:
  Agustín Martín Domingo writes:
Ugo Enrico Albarello wrote:
 
 El Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 03:13:37PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] dijo:
  Hola:
 
   Esta mañana me he puesto a compilar el kernel 2.4 con el
  make-kpkg y me 
  he encontrado con que los módulos los mete en otros directorios
  que no son 
  los habituales. ¿Cómo puedo cambiar eso y que me los deje
  donde siempre? 
 
 No no hombre... no sea salvaje :o)
 
 En 2.4 se cambió la estructura de los módulos, asi que
 tranquilo que como 
 está, está bien.

Lo único es que a lo mejor necesitas actualizar el modutils si donde
están te da algún problema
  
  De hecho a mí me está dando problemas. En casa tengo una potato
  instalada desde el principio y en el curro tengo una woody
  actualizada. Cuando compilo en casa, al finalizar el proceso de
  compilación + instalación + rebute, el modules.dep está vacio. Sin
  embargo con las mismas fuentes, la misma versión del kernel
  (2.4-test9) el proceso acaba perfecto. El 'modutils' está actualizado
  en ambas máquinas (con versión 2.3.11-11 en potato, 2.3.19-1 en woody).
  
  ¿Alguna sugerencia?

Me sugiero: 

$ uname -r
2.4.0-test9
$ less /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Changes
[...]
Current Minimal Requirements
[...]
o  modutils   2.3.15  # insmod -V
[...]

Sin embargo en ...

ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/potato-proposed-updates

sólo tienen 2.3.11-11 para el modutils, supongo que habrá que bajarse
la versión de woody para poder compilar el 2.4 ...

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Re: Pronunciación debian

2000-11-17 Thread Quique
Ricardo Villalba wrote:
 
   Debian
   operating system /deb'ee`n/, *not* /deeb'ee`n/ 

 Entonces ¿debian se pronuncia debin?
 Pues no me gusta.

Hola!

Parece que a todo el mundo se le ha olvidado consultar la mejor de las fuentes: 
el FAQ oficial de
Debian, en cuya sección 1.6 podemos leer:

   How does one pronounce Debian and what does this word mean? 

   The project name is pronounced Deb'-ian, with a short e, and 
   emphasis on the first syllable. This word is a contraction of
   the names of Debra and Ian Murdock, who founded the project.
   (Dictionaries seem to offer some ambiguity in the pronunciation
   of Ian (!), but Ian prefers ee'-an.) 


Es decir, que según el fundador de Debian:

Debian se pronuncia... Deb-ían.  :)


rms pronuncia GNU como en aGNUs - un poco difícil para [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ,
y Emacs lo pronunciaba ímax.

Miguel de Icaza pronunciaba GNOME algo así como gnomm, con la g inicial como en 
GNU.


A la cama no te irás sin saber una cosa más.  ;P

Saludos,
 Quique


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XFree 4

2000-11-17 Thread Amaya
Estoy usando Woody y, un poco contra mi voluntad y otro poco a la
aventura, he actualizado las X.  Llevo ya una semana sin saber cómo
configurarlas (en el curro las instalé a las bravas con binarios bajados de
www.xfree.org y no me han dado problemas). 

Pero aquí soy incapaz de configurarlas usando paquetes .deb. Y ya estoy
un poco mosqueada, porque no me parece muy normal que el archivo de
configuración antiguo que me ha funcionado casi 3 a~nos sin problemas ahora ya
no valga para nada... Habrán oído hablar de la compatibilidad hacia atras? Ya,
ya se que los cambios son importantes... :-( 

Bueno, dejo de quejarme y os cuento los síntomas, a ver si me aclaráis
un poquito este misterio ;-)

~-root#xf86cfg
sh: /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86: No such file or directory
Failed to run XFree86 -configure.

~-root#dpkg -S XFree86
xfree86-common: /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/XFree86-FAQ.html
xfree86-common: /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/XFree86-FAQ.text.gz

~-root#dpkg -l | grep 4.0.1
ii  libxaw64.0.1-5X Athena widget set library (version 6)
ii  libxaw74.0.1-5X Athena widget set library
ii  xbase-clients  4.0.1-5miscellaneous X clients
ii  xfonts-75dpi   4.0.1-575 dpi fonts for X
ii  xfonts-base4.0.1-5standard fonts for X
ii  xfonts-scalabl 4.0.1-5scalable fonts for X
ii  xfree86-common 4.0.1-5X Window System (XFree86) infrastructure
ii  xlib6g 4.0.1-5pseudopackage providing X libraries
ii  xlibmesa3  4.0.1-5XFree86 version of Mesa 3D graphics library
ii  xlibs  4.0.1-5X Window System client libraries
ii  xserver-common 4.0.1-5files and utilities common to all X servers
ii  xterm  4.0.1-5X terminal emulator
ii  xutils 4.0.1-5XFree86 utility programs

Hablamos de una máquina que usaba el xserver svga normal y corriente. 

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Re: XFree 4

2000-11-17 Thread Amaya
Romón Sánchez, Enver dijo:
 yo las configure utilizando el xf86config de toda la vida y sin mayores
 problemas.

Eso mismo quiero hacer yo, pero:
~-barbwireddpkg -S xf86config
dpkg: no se encontró *xf86config*.

Yo estoy más que despistada :-(

Me estoy bajando xserver-xfree86. Espero que esté ahí la solución a mis
problemas, pero:

Need to get 6597kB of archives. After unpacking 19.7MB will be used.

~-barbwireddf -h 
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda2 454M  386M   44M  90% /

Aghhh!!! Necesito otro HD con urgencia! :-)))
En cuanto acabe con las X fusilo el Windows forever en este portátil :-)))
Qué tal va gpart? Redimensiona bien particiones ext2? 

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KDE2

2000-11-17 Thread Carlos López
Alguien sabe si está lista la paqueteria en formato
deb del KDE2 ???

Gracias.

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RE: XFree 4

2000-11-17 Thread Romón Sánchez, Enver
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echale un vistazo a xf86cfg

es una utilidad para configurar las X, echale un vistazo a la pagina
del man, habla de como crear la configuracion inicial con esta
herramienta.

esta en el paquete xbase-clients

ya me contaras,

hasta luego,

Enver Romon
Programador
(paso de poner firma, hoy estoy vago)


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Re: XFree 4

2000-11-17 Thread Rodrigo Moya
Hola Amaya,

   Estoy usando Woody y, un poco contra mi voluntad y otro poco a la
 aventura, he actualizado las X.  Llevo ya una semana sin saber cómo
 configurarlas (en el curro las instalé a las bravas con binarios bajados de
 www.xfree.org y no me han dado problemas). 
 
   Pero aquí soy incapaz de configurarlas usando paquetes .deb. Y ya estoy
 un poco mosqueada, porque no me parece muy normal que el archivo de
 configuración antiguo que me ha funcionado casi 3 a~nos sin problemas ahora ya
 no valga para nada... Habrán oído hablar de la compatibilidad hacia atras? Ya,
 ya se que los cambios son importantes... :-( 

tienes que usar dexter, que automáticamente detecta qué versión del servidor
X estás usando, y te genera el fichero de la versión en cuestión (XF86Config
o XF86Config-v4).
   
   Bueno, dejo de quejarme y os cuento los síntomas, a ver si me aclaráis
 un poquito este misterio ;-)
 
 ~-root#xf86cfg
 sh: /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86: No such file or directory
 Failed to run XFree86 -configure.
 
 ~-root#dpkg -S XFree86
 xfree86-common: /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/XFree86-FAQ.html
 xfree86-common: /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/XFree86-FAQ.text.gz
 
 ~-root#dpkg -l | grep 4.0.1
 ii  libxaw64.0.1-5X Athena widget set library (version 6)
 ii  libxaw74.0.1-5X Athena widget set library
 ii  xbase-clients  4.0.1-5miscellaneous X clients
 ii  xfonts-75dpi   4.0.1-575 dpi fonts for X
 ii  xfonts-base4.0.1-5standard fonts for X
 ii  xfonts-scalabl 4.0.1-5scalable fonts for X
 ii  xfree86-common 4.0.1-5X Window System (XFree86) infrastructure
 ii  xlib6g 4.0.1-5pseudopackage providing X libraries
 ii  xlibmesa3  4.0.1-5XFree86 version of Mesa 3D graphics library
 ii  xlibs  4.0.1-5X Window System client libraries
 ii  xserver-common 4.0.1-5files and utilities common to all X servers
 ii  xterm  4.0.1-5X terminal emulator
 ii  xutils 4.0.1-5XFree86 utility programs

te falta xserver-xfree86

 Hablamos de una máquina que usaba el xserver svga normal y corriente. 
 
si quieres volver a las 3.3.6, sólo tienes que cambiar el fichero
/etc/X11/Xserver. Ahí le pones el servidor X (XF86_SVGA). Seguro que ahora
lo tienes como XFree86, y como no tienes instalado xserver-xfree86, pues
por eso te da el error.

saludos




Re: KDE2

2000-11-17 Thread Jordi Roman Mejias
Carlos López wrote:
 
 Alguien sabe si está lista la paqueteria en formato
 deb del KDE2 ???
 

deb http://kde.tdyc.com/ potato kde2 

 Gracias.
De nadas 
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Re: KDE2

2000-11-17 Thread Rodrigo Moya
 Alguien sabe si está lista la paqueteria en formato
 deb del KDE2 ???
 
en www.laespiral.org puedes encontrarlos para potato.

saludos




Re: XFree 4

2000-11-17 Thread Amaya
Rodrigo Moya dijo:
 tienes que usar dexter, que automáticamente detecta qué versión del servidor
 X estás usando, y te genera el fichero de la versión en cuestión (XF86Config
 o XF86Config-v4).

Alguien me puede confirmar el nombre del fichero?
Tengo un /etc/XF86Config-4 y un /etc/XF86Config, debería ser /etc/XF86Config-v4?

 te falta xserver-xfree86

Ya me lo he bajado :-(

 si quieres volver a las 3.3.6, sólo tienes que cambiar el fichero
 /etc/X11/Xserver. Ahí le pones el servidor X (XF86_SVGA). Seguro que ahora lo
 tienes como XFree86, y como no tienes instalado xserver-xfree86, pues por eso
 te da el error.

Ya que estoy prefiero usar la versión 4. Tarde o temprano tendré que hacerlo ;-)

xf86config me arranca una especie de entorno gráfico sin gestor de ventanas y
me deja un archivín de configuración en /root/XF86Config.new. Lo he copiado a
/etc/ con todos los nombres arriba mencionados y el error es este al ejecutar
startx:

/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc: exec: X: not found

Y si ejecuto startx como siempre (startx -- -bpp 16 ) el error es este:

xinit:  No such file or directory (errno 2):  no server X in PATH

Use the -- option, or make sure that /usr/X11R6/bin is in your path and
that X is a program or a link to the right type of server
for your display.  Possible server names include:

XFree86 XFree86 displays

xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to X server
xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.

Vamos mejor, pero no acabo de verlo... Qué hay que leer o qué tengo que hacer?

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Re: XFree 4

2000-11-17 Thread Rodrigo Moya
 Rodrigo Moya dijo:
  tienes que usar dexter, que automáticamente detecta qué versión del servidor
  X estás usando, y te genera el fichero de la versión en cuestión (XF86Config
  o XF86Config-v4).
 
 Alguien me puede confirmar el nombre del fichero?
 Tengo un /etc/XF86Config-4 y un /etc/XF86Config, debería ser 
 /etc/XF86Config-v4?
 
XF86Config es para la versión 3, y XF86Config-v4 para la versión 4. Así que
si tocas a mano alguno, que sea el XF86Config-v4

 xf86config me arranca una especie de entorno gráfico sin gestor de ventanas y
 me deja un archivín de configuración en /root/XF86Config.new. Lo he copiado a
 /etc/ con todos los nombres arriba mencionados y el error es este al ejecutar
 startx:
 
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc: exec: X: not found

qué tienes en /etc/X11/Xserver?

Tienes que tener:

/usr/bin/X11/XFree86
anybody

lo más probable es que, en vez de XFree86, todavía tengas XF86_SVGA. En la
versión 4 hay un sólo servidor X, que es éste (XFree86), y si tienes XF86_SVGA
en Xserver, tanto dexter como xf86config asumen que estás usando la versión
3.

Usa dexter para intentar configurarlo, que mola más.

 Y si ejecuto startx como siempre (startx -- -bpp 16 ) el error es este:
 
 xinit:  No such file or directory (errno 2):  no server X in PATH
 
 Use the -- option, or make sure that /usr/X11R6/bin is in your path and
 that X is a program or a link to the right type of server
 for your display.  Possible server names include:
 
 XFree86 XFree86 displays
 
 xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to X server
 xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.
 
 Vamos mejor, pero no acabo de verlo... Qué hay que leer o qué tengo que hacer?
 
¿estás segura de que has instalado xserver-xfree86?

saludos




Re: XFree 4

2000-11-17 Thread Cesar Talon

On 17-Nov-2000 Amaya wrote:
 Rodrigo Moya dijo:
 tienes que usar dexter, que automáticamente detecta qué versión del servidor
 X estás usando, y te genera el fichero de la versión en cuestión (XF86Config
 o XF86Config-v4).
 
 Alguien me puede confirmar el nombre del fichero?
 Tengo un /etc/XF86Config-4 y un /etc/XF86Config, debería ser
 /etc/XF86Config-v4?

No, el fichero es /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 para las XFree86-4 y el
/etc/X11/XF86Config para las 3.3.6

 xf86config me arranca una especie de entorno gráfico sin gestor de ventanas y
 me deja un archivín de configuración en /root/XF86Config.new. Lo he copiado a
 /etc/ con todos los nombres arriba mencionados y el error es este al ejecutar
 startx:
 
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc: exec: X: not found

Comprueba que no tengas un enlace simbolico no actualizado y que en
/etc/X11/Xserver tienes la linea:

/usr/bin/X11/XFree86

Es muy probable que te falte algun paquete de las X4. Mira un mail anterior de
Rodrigo Moya en la que venia la lista de paquetes instalados.

No te olvides el xserver-common.

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cvs y grupos de usuarios

2000-11-17 Thread David Charro Ripa
Estoy montando un cvs.
He creado un grupo cvs.
Los usuarios que pertenezcan a ese grupo deberían poder coger y subir
versiones.
Al importar el módulo inicial se me graban los archivos con el nombre de
usuario y grupo del que lo crea.
Y nadie más puede acceder a ellos a no ser que en el propio cvs a mano
haga un
chgrp -R cvs nombremodulo/

¿No se pueden controlar los permisos y los grupos con que el cvs
escribe?
Al estilo del samba con force group create mask, etc.


Saludos

K-charro



RE: cvs y grupos de usuarios

2000-11-17 Thread Cesar Talon
Es extraño... yo estuve el otro dia con lo mismo y si que me parecen bien los
permisos del modulo. Aparecen como cvs:staff aunque los subi como otro usuario.
Eso deberia ser el comportamiento normal, al fin y al cabo por eso se crea el
usuario cvs.

On 17-Nov-2000 David Charro Ripa wrote:
 Estoy montando un cvs.
 He creado un grupo cvs.
 Los usuarios que pertenezcan a ese grupo deberían poder coger y subir
 versiones.
 Al importar el módulo inicial se me graban los archivos con el nombre de
 usuario y grupo del que lo crea.
 Y nadie más puede acceder a ellos a no ser que en el propio cvs a mano
 haga un
 chgrp -R cvs nombremodulo/
 
 ¿No se pueden controlar los permisos y los grupos con que el cvs
 escribe?
 Al estilo del samba con force group create mask, etc.
 
 
 Saludos
 
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Re: cvs y grupos de usuarios

2000-11-17 Thread Rodrigo Moya
 Estoy montando un cvs.
 He creado un grupo cvs.
 Los usuarios que pertenezcan a ese grupo deberían poder coger y subir
 versiones.
 Al importar el módulo inicial se me graban los archivos con el nombre de
 usuario y grupo del que lo crea.
 Y nadie más puede acceder a ellos a no ser que en el propio cvs a mano
 haga un
 chgrp -R cvs nombremodulo/
 
 ¿No se pueden controlar los permisos y los grupos con que el cvs
 escribe?
 Al estilo del samba con force group create mask, etc.
 
creo que si se puede, pero es muy lioso. Lo mejor, o por lo menos lo que yo
hago en estos casos, es que todas las operaciones de cvs se hagan con un único
usuario. No quiero decir que todo el mundo use el mismo usuario, sino que
crees el fichero CVSROOT/passwd, en el que tienes que poner:

pepito:s4Dff344vvg:cvs
juanito:fhdf485454:cvs
...

así, todas las operaciones, aunque las haga pepito o juanito, se ejecutan con el
usuario cvs, y te olvidas de los problemas de permisos.

saludos




Re: cvs y grupos de usuarios

2000-11-17 Thread Jose Luis Trivino
David Charro Ripa wrote:
 
 Estoy montando un cvs.
 He creado un grupo cvs.
 Los usuarios que pertenezcan a ese grupo deberían poder coger y subir
 versiones.
 Al importar el módulo inicial se me graban los archivos con el nombre de
 usuario y grupo del que lo crea.
 Y nadie más puede acceder a ellos a no ser que en el propio cvs a mano
 haga un
 chgrp -R cvs nombremodulo/
 
 ¿No se pueden controlar los permisos y los grupos con que el cvs
 escribe?
 Al estilo del samba con force group create mask, etc.
No estoy seguro si el método que te comento puede dar
problemas de seguridad. Pero creo que una posible opción
sería cambiar el bit s del CVS (chmod +s /usr/bin/CVS). De
esta forma conseguirás que CVS se ejecute con el usuario al
que pertenece el fichero /usr/bin/CVS.

Hasta más bits,

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anXious y XFree 3

2000-11-17 Thread Lupión

Hola debianeros

He tratado de usar anXious para configurar X en mi
distribución potato pero al arrancarlo, simplemente
¡no hace nada! (Ni error, ni core, ni na de na)
¿A alguien le sucede igual?



Re: Kernel 2.4

2000-11-17 Thread Agustín Martín Domingo
jose wrote:
 
 Me sugiero:
 
 $ uname -r
 2.4.0-test9
 $ less /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Changes
 [...]
 Current Minimal Requirements
 [...]
 o  modutils   2.3.15  # insmod -V
 [...]
 
 Sin embargo en ...
 
 ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/potato-proposed-updates
 
 sólo tienen 2.3.11-11 para el modutils, supongo que habrá que bajarse
 la versión de woody para poder compilar el 2.4 ...

Creo que la versión de libc es ya incompatible, así que por si acaso
recompilalo para tu potato.

En mi /etc/apt/sources.list tengo la línea

deb-src ftp://ftp.es.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free


y después hago

# apt-get -b source modutils

te lo trae y te lo compila, una maravilla el apt-get

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ACL

2000-11-17 Thread Carlos López
A las buenas.

Alguien sabe donde puedo localizar software para
control de ACL´s para debian ???
Me es indistinto si es en source o empaquetado.


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Re: cvs y grupos de usuarios

2000-11-17 Thread David Charro Ripa
  ¿No se pueden controlar los permisos y los grupos con que el cvs
  escribe?
  Al estilo del samba con force group create mask, etc.
 

 creo que si se puede, pero es muy lioso. Lo mejor, o por lo menos lo que yo
 hago en estos casos, es que todas las operaciones de cvs se hagan con un único
 usuario. No quiero decir que todo el mundo use el mismo usuario, sino que
 crees el fichero CVSROOT/passwd, en el que tienes que poner:
 pepito:s4Dff344vvg:cvs
 juanito:fhdf485454:cvs

Entonces tengo que crear un fichero de contraseñas aparte y quería
aprovechar el del sistema. Así podría usar PAM y en el futuro
autentificar con un LDAP o una base de datos o seguir con el /etc/passwd
¿no?



Re: cvs y grupos de usuarios

2000-11-17 Thread Rodrigo Moya
   ¿No se pueden controlar los permisos y los grupos con que el cvs
   escribe?
   Al estilo del samba con force group create mask, etc.
  
 
  creo que si se puede, pero es muy lioso. Lo mejor, o por lo menos lo que yo
  hago en estos casos, es que todas las operaciones de cvs se hagan con un 
  único
  usuario. No quiero decir que todo el mundo use el mismo usuario, sino que
  crees el fichero CVSROOT/passwd, en el que tienes que poner:
  pepito:s4Dff344vvg:cvs
  juanito:fhdf485454:cvs
 
 Entonces tengo que crear un fichero de contraseñas aparte y quería
 aprovechar el del sistema. Así podría usar PAM y en el futuro
 autentificar con un LDAP o una base de datos o seguir con el /etc/passwd
 ¿no?

bueno, en ese caso, yo probaría lo que alguien ha dicho antes, lo de poner
el 'S' en los permisos del directorio del CVS. No sé si funcionará, pero
pruébalo a ver.

saludos




Re: cvs y grupos de usuarios

2000-11-17 Thread Enrique Robledo Arnuncio
On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 12:33:20PM +0100, Jose Luis Trivino wrote:
 David Charro Ripa wrote:
  ¿No se pueden controlar los permisos y los grupos con que el cvs
  escribe?
  Al estilo del samba con force group create mask, etc.
 No estoy seguro si el método que te comento puede dar
 problemas de seguridad. Pero creo que una posible opción
 sería cambiar el bit s del CVS (chmod +s /usr/bin/CVS). De
 esta forma conseguirás que CVS se ejecute con el usuario al
 que pertenece el fichero /usr/bin/CVS.
 
 

Una solución más flexible es usar el bit s de grupo en el
directorio del repositorio, por ejemplo, si tu CVSROOT está
en /var/cvsroot:

chgrp cvs /var/cvsroot
chmod g+s /var/cvsroot

De esta forma, todos los ficheros que cree dentro de ese directorio
alguien del grupo cvs pertenecerán a ese grupo.

Lo bueno de esta solución es que puedes utilizar distintos grupos
para distintos módulos dentro del repositorio:

chgrp weberos /var/cvsroot/portal
chmod g+s /var/cvsroot/portal

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Re: Tarjetas de video

2000-11-17 Thread Santiago Romero
El jue, 16 de nov de 2000, a las 02:22:02 -0300, DiekBlues dijo:
 necesito recomendaciones de las sig placas : 
 AGP 16 MB CREATIVE TNT2
 AGP 16 MB DIAMOND S3 540 SAVAGE 4
 AGP 16 MB VOODOO 3000
 PCI 16 MB TNT2 RIVA

 todas menos la SAVAGE van de lujo.
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Re: Más sobre paqueteria

2000-11-17 Thread Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a

Umm... esto se debe a que para sacar la lista *completa* incluyendo
los marcados como purge/uninstall hay que hacer dpkg --get-selections *

Javi

On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 12:06:45PM +0100, Sergio Talens-Oliag wrote:
 El Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 11:05:10AM -0100, Miguel Rodriguez Penabad (dc) 
 escribió:
  
  Por lo que yo tengo entendido (no lo he probado) puedes
  guardar la lista de paquetes instalados con
  dpkg --get-selections lista_de_paquetes.txt
  y restaurarlo con 
  dpkg --set-selections lista_de_paquetes.txt
 
   Eso funciona, pero si en la máquina ya tienes otros paquetes instalados no
   los marca para deseleccionar.  El otro día intenté que dos máquinas tuvieran
   los mismos paquetes e hice lo que describes, pero no se como deseleccionarlo
   todo antes de hacer el 'set-selections' ¿Alguien sabe como hacerlo?
 
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Re: telnet en puerto 24

2000-11-17 Thread Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a

Tendrás que modificar el inetd.conf miralo y verás como funciona,
pero si has modificado el /etc/services y le has puesto el mismo nombre a
los servicios en el puerto 23 y 24 no va a funcionar.
Tienes que poner:

/etc/services
23: telnetd
24: telnetdd (por ejemplo)

/etc/inetd.conf
telnetd : in.telnetd
telnetdd: in.telnetd

Entendido?

Javi

On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 02:58:17PM +, Carles Pina i Estany wrote:
 
 hola
 
 si quiero poner a escuchar unt elnet a través del inetd al puerto 24, qué
 tengo de modificar?
 
 he puesto la linia del telnet del /etc/services lo mismo con el puerto 24;
 y he reiniciado el inetd... tengo de reiniciar algo más para releer el
 /etc/services ?
 
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Re: Pregunta dpkg

2000-11-17 Thread Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a


Please da un URL... me gustaría echarle un vistazo, hablar con su
programador y empaquetarlo si no está aún en woody.

Javi

On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 02:32:55AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 - La otra es el programa deborphan. Hace mucho tiempo yo hice
 esa misma pregunta y alguien me pas? las fuentes de
 este programa C.
 Lo tengo en casa. Si te interesa te lo mando. Te da
 exactamente lo que buscas: paquetes innecesarios por haberse
 eliminado los paquetes a los que daban soporte.
 
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Re: Ver descripciones de los paquetes debian.

2000-11-17 Thread Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a

¿A nadie le ha interesado dpkg-search? He visto descargas a raíz del
post pero nadie ha comentado nada... ¿alguien lo ha probado?

Javi



Re: Pregunta dpkg

2000-11-17 Thread Agustín Martín Domingo
Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a wrote:
 
 Please da un URL... me gustaría echarle un vistazo, hablar con su
 programador y empaquetarlo si no está aún en woody.

Lo tienes en woody/admin

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Otra consulta sobre paquetes

2000-11-17 Thread Alexis Roda
Hola a todos,
sigo con mis dudas sobre el sistema de paquetes de debian. He
recompilado samba 2.0.7-3 y he creado un nuevo paquete. Despues de
instalarlo, al hacer un apt-get -s upgrade me dice que va a actualizar
el samba. ¿Es esto normal, teniendo en cuenta que la version instalada y
la que hay en ftp.debian.org coinciden? ¿Al crear el paquete puedo
especificar algo asi como un numero de revision para que mi version sea
posterior y asi no lo actualice? Poner el paquete en hold no acaba de
gustarme. Y ya puestos, ¿puedo poner un paquete en hold con dpkg (no he
encontrado informacion en la pagina man) o tengo que hacerlo
forzosamente con el dselect?

Gracias por adelantado.


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Re: Pregunta dpkg

2000-11-17 Thread German Gutierrez
Y en potato? 
* [20001117 14:14] Agustín Martín Domingo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) decia:
 Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a wrote:
  
  Please da un URL... me gustaría echarle un vistazo, hablar con su
  programador y empaquetarlo si no está aún en woody.
 
 Lo tienes en woody/admin
 
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Re: Más sobre paqueteria

2000-11-17 Thread Sergio Talens-Oliag
El Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 05:59:29PM +0100, Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a escribió:
 
   Umm... esto se debe a que para sacar la lista *completa* incluyendo
 los marcados como purge/uninstall hay que hacer dpkg --get-selections *

  Gracias por la info; eso me pasa por no leer el manual, aunque tampoco está
  muy bien explicado:

  ---
   dpkg --get-selections [pattern...]
  Get  list  of  package  selections, and write it to
  stdout.
  ---

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Re: Pregunta dpkg

2000-11-17 Thread Agustín Martín Domingo
German Gutierrez wrote:
 
 Y en potato?

Creo que no dio tiempo

 * [20001117 14:14] Agustín Martín Domingo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) decia:
  Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a wrote:
  
   Please da un URL... me gustaría echarle un vistazo, hablar con su
   programador y empaquetarlo si no está aún en woody.
 
  Lo tienes en woody/admin
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Re: Más sobre paqueteria

2000-11-17 Thread Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a

Si crees eso, envía un bug :)

Javi

On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 06:52:51PM +0100, Sergio Talens-Oliag wrote:
 El Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 05:59:29PM +0100, Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a escribió:
  
  Umm... esto se debe a que para sacar la lista *completa* incluyendo
  los marcados como purge/uninstall hay que hacer dpkg --get-selections *
 
   Gracias por la info; eso me pasa por no leer el manual, aunque tampoco está
   muy bien explicado:
 
   ---
dpkg --get-selections [pattern...]
   Get  list  of  package  selections, and write it to
   stdout.
   ---
 
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[offtopic] Actualizacion de eprom en SCSI

2000-11-17 Thread Cesar Diaz Gonzalez



Perdonar por la 
pregunta fuera de contexto, pero tengo el ordenador parado porque conseguido una 
Adaptec 1740 EISA y necesitaba actualizarla la eprom para que me maneje discos 
de mas de 1gb. si alguien sabe quien podria darmela un viaje me haria un favor, 
tengo los ficheros bin para copiarla
muchas 
gracias


Puerto 6000 del X11

2000-11-17 Thread Lemus Moreno Jose A
No he podido desabilitar el puerto 6000 segun yo se le debe de decir al
xserver que no escuche el puerto 6000 con no-listen = tcp, pero aun asi
sigo viendo que el puerto esta abierto.

Como puedo cerrarlo


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Re: Reutilización de los paquetes bajados

2000-11-17 Thread Luis Cabrera Sauco

  Quien:Andres Herrera 
  Cuando:   viernes, 17 de noviembre del 2000, a las 12:35, 
  Qué:  Re: Reutilización de los paquetes bajados 


 Guenas
 
 El Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 12:11:00AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disidio iscribir:
  He instalado un debian potato desde un par de cd que tengo, después he 
  instalado un montón de paquetes con el apt-get (me ha tardado un buen 
  ratito). 
  La cuestión es que ahora he de instalarlo en otro equipo y mi pregunta es 
  ¿que hago para no tener que volverme a bajar todos los paquetes otra vez?. 
  Me imagino que estarán en algún sitio en el primer ordenador y si es así 
  ¿como los instalo en el segundo ordenador?. 
 
 Están en /var/cache/apt/archives
 
 Saludines

Si el segundo equipo lo quieres configurar con los mismos
paquetes que el primero, copia todos los paquetes que tienes en
el /var/cache/apt/archives del primer equipo en el mismo sitio
del segundo. Despues actualiza. Como va a pedirte los mismos
paquetes, primero mirará æn este sitio antes de ir a buscarlos
de nuevo  :)

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2000-11-17 Thread TONY FREDY



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Re: Pronunciación debian

2000-11-17 Thread Hue-Bond
El viernes 17 de noviembre de 2000 a la(s) 09:46:57 +0100, Quique contaba:

   The project name is pronounced Deb'-ian, with a short e, and 
   emphasis on the first syllable.

Debian se pronuncia... Deb-ían.  :)

 Si es la primera sílaba, débian, tal como diría un español de
 a pie, y tal como digo yo.  Si estoy leyendo un texto en inglés, me
 lo tomo como díbien.

 ge ene u. Y si leo en inglés, yi en iu.

 emacs=iméx, gnome=nóme o nóum,  python=páiton. Y ya que alguien
 mencionó el enlightenment, pues enláitnment :^).


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Re: Pronunciación debian

2000-11-17 Thread Virgilio . Gomez
Hola:

On Sat, 18 Nov 2000, Hue-Bond wrote:

  ge ene u. Y si leo en inglés, yi en iu.
 
Mal hecho :-D Según Stallman se pronuncia g-nu, la g como en gato :-D Es
un poco difícil pero Stallman hizo énfasis en eso en su conferencia:-D
Dijo que sonaba algo así como a new. 

 Saludos.

  Virgilio



Oktala åäö i woody. (var: gettext)

2000-11-17 Thread Martin Samuelsson
On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 08:19:25PM +0100, Niklas H?glund wrote:
 Jag råkade ut för samma sak. (Inte det med oktala koder dock.) Jag
 kommer inte ihåg vad jag gjorde för att fixa det, men jag tror att det
 antingen var att jag installerade något mer paket, eller att jag
 fixade med miljövariablerna. Mina miljövariabler och resultatet från
 locale-kommandot ser ut så här:

Har löst iaf mitt problem nu.

Tydligen så har någon tänkt till i och med version 2.2 av glibc  sparat plats.

Ändrar man i /etc/locale.gen  kör /usr/sbin/locale-gen så får man svenska 
igen. Allt enligt vad som står på 
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-0011/msg00649.html.
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Re: Oktala åäö i woody. (var: gettext)

2000-11-17 Thread peter karlsson
Martin Samuelsson:

 Ändrar man i /etc/locale.gen  kör /usr/sbin/locale-gen så får man
 svenska igen. Allt enligt vad som står på
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-0011/msg00649.html.

Det intressanta var att när problemet uppstod körde jag fortfarande
Glibc2.1...

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Neoplanet

2000-11-17 Thread Thiago Volpi Ramos



Alguém pode me dizer se o browser Neoplanet, da 
Lycos, tem uma versão para Linux.
Só instalei a internet no meu Linux agora e não sei 
que browser usar. No windows usava o neoplanet, mas aceito dicas de 
outros.
Obrigado,
Thiago Volpi Ramos


dic.net

2000-11-17 Thread Philipe Gaspar

Qual o melhor programa dicionario ingles/portugues ou ingles/ingles??
[]s
kr0n





dic.net

2000-11-17 Thread Allan F. Caetano
 Philipe == Philipe Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Philipe Qual o melhor programa dicionario ingles/portugues ou 
ingles/ingles??
Philipe []s
Philipe kr0n

Sob risco de ser acusado de proselitismo e subserviência ao meu
empregador, sugiro os diconários em linha Michaelis e Melhoramentos
no UOL:

http://www.uol.com.br/michaelis   - Português
http://www.uol.com.br/bibliot/dicionar/  - Inglês, espanhol,
alemão e francês;

Se Vc preferir um dicionário inglês-inglês, instale o pacote dict,
ou use o gdict que é a interface gráfica do dict para o GNOME.

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Re: X4 and DRI

2000-11-17 Thread John
Im using a voodoo5 5500.

I think i have seen this mentioned elsewhere, the problem is the dri kernel 
module is
a different version from what the X server expects . A bit like mixing kernel 
modules
with a different kernel :).
I started playing with X4, shortly before they came into woody so i have the X 
server
sources and compile my own from the source. Im not sure if they are included in 
debs
??.

The place to check out would be dri.sourceforge.net follow the links you will 
find
some mail lists.


cheers

Lee Elliott wrote:

 Hello List,

 I've recently upgraded to X4 and I'm having problems with DRI.
 I'm using a Matrox G400 and a 2.4.0-test5(from the woody .deb) kernel.

 With the mesag3 package from woody installed, glxinfo shows direct
 rendering is enabled but if I run some of the GL xscreensavers i.e.
 superquadrics and lament, they appear to be using s/w rendering.  This
 is in comparison to the old 3.3.6 + utah_glx combination which was much
 faster and appeared to give higher quality too.

 If I replace mesag3 with xlibmesa3, glxinfo shows that direct rendering
 is not enabled but the screensavers run the same as with mesag3.

 In /var/log/XFree86.0.log I found the line:-

 (EE) MGA(0): [drm] MGADRIScreenInit failed (DRM version = 1.0.0,
 expected 2.0.x).  Disabling DRI.

 which looks like it might be the cause of the problem but if so, what do
 I do about it?

 TIA

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Re: installing netscape

2000-11-17 Thread John Galt

Neither navigator nor communicator are part of Debian proper, so won't be
on the CDs--they're not DFSG free, so are in the non-free section
(which is not officially supported by or officially part of Debian).  Some
vendors include a non-free CD, but a good portion do not.  Once you set up
apt for ftp/http, assuming you answered the non-free question in setup so
that you could get non-free, just apt-get it.

On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:

 Hi!
 
 If you want Netscape 4, do apt-get install navigator.  The navigator 
 package
 is a meta package that depends on all the real netscape packages.
 
 Does this apply to the potato CD? I intended to install Netscape, but I
 only found Netscape3 in the CD and I didn't find any Communicator. Does
 navigator exist in the potato CD? 
 
 Thanks in advance!!
 
 
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Re: installing netscape

2000-11-17 Thread John Galt

It was unofficial: netscape's non-free.

On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Sebastiaan wrote:

 Hello,
 I have installed netscape, though I cannot remember if it was from the
 official cd or from an unofficial one. You can also try to install the
 package communicator-smotif-473 or navigator-smotif-473.
 
 
 Greetings,
 Sebastiaan
 
 
 On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
 
  Hi!
  
  If you want Netscape 4, do apt-get install navigator.  The navigator 
  package
  is a meta package that depends on all the real netscape packages.
  
  Does this apply to the potato CD? I intended to install Netscape, but I
  only found Netscape3 in the CD and I didn't find any Communicator. Does
  navigator exist in the potato CD? 
  
  Thanks in advance!!
  
  
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pci network configuration

2000-11-17 Thread 李威儒

Hi! I have a potato box with dlink dfe 530 tx.
I recompile my kernel with via-rhine driver bulit-in.
And next?
 
$cat /proc/pci
I found
Bus 0, device 14, function 0:
Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies Unknown device (rev 66). 
Vendor id=1106. Device id=3065
Medium devsel.  IRQ 11.  Master Capable.  Latency=64.  Min Gnt=3.Max
Lat=8.
$cat /etc/network/interfaces

auto eth0 lo
iface lo inet loopback
iface eth0 inet static
  address 10.XXX.XXX.XXX
  netmask 255.255.255.0

$ifup eth0 
/etc/network/interfaces: option without interface # WHY???

 I don't know why.  Thanks




Creating Debian image for installfests

2000-11-17 Thread Jesse Goerz
Our local LUG is doing installfests once a month and it seems I'm the only 
Debian user in the whole bunch (the damn heretics!;-)

I would like to get some advice on this:

I'm trying to create a bare bones system with all the things a new Linux user 
would be semi-familiar with.  (i.e. Netscape, KDE2 desktop, etc.) Is it 
possible to install the above on a machine, and then do:

dpkg --get-selections

From that output, create a cdrom which is a Debian install CD with only those 
packages?

What I'm getting at is basically a Debian 2.2r0 binary 1 disc with all the 
stuff I wouldn't be using stripped out and the extras added in (like 
netscape, kde2, etc.)  I could then just burn a whole bunch and just give 
them to the folks (licensing issues for stuff that may fall into non-free?).  
I've already created an apt-getable cd-rom with the kde2 stuff so I 
understand how to do that.  What I'm having difficulty with is what to strip 
out and what not to.  Perhaps a script to rm everything EXCEPT what is from 
dpkg --get-selections?  Is this possible?  Am I on the right track?

I really have to do this because the rpm guys in my LUG are all bragging up 
that they have kde2 already up on their systems.  (I've had it up since Ivan 
put out the first packages!  God bless apt!)  Plus I want to blow them all 
away with how easy Debian's PM is to use.   I must have converts;-)

--
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What do you mean I have to install it in a certain order and what the hell is 
a dependency?



Re: Apt-get UPgrade today

2000-11-17 Thread John Galt

do a dist-upgrade and that should bring down the number of not
installed...

On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, dude wrote:

 
 
 Hello all.
 
 I've Just
 Upgraded today and have noted that exactly 41 packages have not been fully
 installed or removed
 
 The only error is get is:
 
 /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_4.0.1-5_386.deb
 
 thanks for the help
 please CC me a copy of your help directly
 
 
 

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Re: installing netscape

2000-11-17 Thread Arthur H. Edwards,1,505-853-6042,505-256-0834


Re: fetchnews running automatically?

2000-11-17 Thread Ekkehard Kraemer
kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
 
 on Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 04:33:27PM +, Ekkehard Kraemer ([EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]) wrote:
  does fetchnews install some cron/anacron/etc. script which makes it
  fetch news automatically?

 What's your crontab entry look like

Mark Brown has cleared it up - I have configured
/etc/news/leafnode/debian-config for a permanent connection, and now it
works right.

Ekkehard *makes a mental note not to forget /etc/ip-up.d next time* :-)



Re: Netscape 6.0

2000-11-17 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 11:29:15PM -0500, Arcady Genkin wrote:
 Greetings,
 
 I've installed Netscape 6.0 for a friend of mine.  It looks pretty
 cool, finally the user can change displayed font size without going to
 preferences...  The ugly HTML forms' elements are gone, too.  However
 the product seems to be too slow; it looks like a lot of debugging
 stuff is still in the executable.
 
 We encountered two problems, and I wonder if anyone could help me
 fight those.
 
 1.  The activation procedure.  We went throught hte registration stuff
 once, but it failed.  Then we restarted, entered the same
 username+password, and it wasn't recognizing the pair.  In the end
 Netscape gave up and just started the browser.  But now every time it
 is started anew, an activation dialog comes up (completely blank) for
 a few seconds, then dissappears, and Netscape starts.  Any ideas how
 to rerun Activation or get rid of this 15-seconds delay?

yes, remove netscape 6 and run:

apt-get update
apt-get install mozilla

mozilla is much better then netscape 6 which is just an older mozilla
snapshot with lots of AOL crap layered on top.   however mozilla is
still a bit sluggish compared to netscape 4 (mostly in the UI, the
rendering tends to be faster) 

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softwareraid

2000-11-17 Thread Manuel Hendel
Hi,

I have to setup a machine with a sofwareraid, just a mirror. Which
tool should I use, raidtools, raidtools2 or mdutils?

I already set up the machine on one disk. I made the five partitions,
boot, root, swap, usr, var. Is it possible to mirror the whole disk
and boot from the boot partition? By the way, I got debian potato
installed.

Thanks fot any help,
Manuel



Re: quake - installation

2000-11-17 Thread Philipp Schulte
On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 05:29:44PM +0100, Michael Mertins wrote: 

 after installing the jdk I want to give Quake a try.
 i saw via apt-cache search quake that there's quake-3dfx available (I have
 a voodoo3-2000 running here).
 so can i just install the package and run the game by typing 'quake' ?

I don't think so. Had to install Quake for a friend and it looks like
this is just a frontend for playing an already installed version of
Quake with GNU/Linux.

But it was not hard to get Quake3 running with a Voodoo3. Send me a
mail if you want detailed instructions, because I guess this is OT.
Phil



Re: isdn timeout

2000-11-17 Thread Philipp Schulte
On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 04:37:05AM +0100, Daniel Borgmann wrote: 

 i'm using potato and a normal isdn installation.
 i get disconnected when i'm idle for about 2 minutes.

In your /etc/isdn/device.ippp0 there should be an entry like:

isdnctrl huptimeout ${device} xxx

Set the xxx to your desired time (in seconds).
Phil



Re: softwareraid

2000-11-17 Thread Alvin Oga

hi ya manuel..

none you already have mirroring part of the kernel...

just setup /etc/raidtab  for raid1 == mirroring

http://ostenfeld.dk/~jakob/Software-RAID.HOWTO/

http://www.Linux-Consulting.com/Raid/raid1.conf
http://www.Linux-Consulting.com/Raid

you can tell it what partitions to mirror...
( i think both disks should be partitioned indentically
( on identical manufacturers drives to minimize headaches

have fun
alvin
http://www.linux-1U.net ... 1U Raid5 


On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Manuel Hendel wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I have to setup a machine with a sofwareraid, just a mirror. Which
 tool should I use, raidtools, raidtools2 or mdutils?
 
 I already set up the machine on one disk. I made the five partitions,
 boot, root, swap, usr, var. Is it possible to mirror the whole disk
 and boot from the boot partition? By the way, I got debian potato
 installed.
 
 Thanks fot any help,
 Manuel
 
 
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Re: NEWBIE: unable to read mail (SOLVED)

2000-11-17 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 04:51:36PM +0100, Sebastiaan wrote:
 Hello,
 I do not really know what I did, but I installed sendmail, hoping that
 that would solve the problem. Did not, removed sendmail, installed Postfix
 again, moved all mail from /var/mail to /var/spool/mail and removed
 /var/mail, and suddenly everything works! Magically!
Next time we'll recompile the software with the right passes ;-)))
Hm, if you used deb packets you should contact the maintainer to find a
sollution.

Cu,
Sven



Re: softwareraid

2000-11-17 Thread Manuel Hendel
Thanks for the first time. that's what I wanted. But is it possible to
boot than from the mirror. How does this funktion?

Thanks, 
Manuel

 hi ya manuel..
 
 none you already have mirroring part of the kernel...
 
 just setup /etc/raidtab  for raid1 == mirroring
 
   http://ostenfeld.dk/~jakob/Software-RAID.HOWTO/
 
   http://www.Linux-Consulting.com/Raid/raid1.conf
   http://www.Linux-Consulting.com/Raid
 
 you can tell it what partitions to mirror...
 ( i think both disks should be partitioned indentically
 ( on identical manufacturers drives to minimize headaches
 
 have fun
 alvin
 http://www.linux-1U.net ... 1U Raid5 
 
 
 On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Manuel Hendel wrote:
 
  Hi,
  
  I have to setup a machine with a sofwareraid, just a mirror. Which
  tool should I use, raidtools, raidtools2 or mdutils?
  
  I already set up the machine on one disk. I made the five partitions,
  boot, root, swap, usr, var. Is it possible to mirror the whole disk
  and boot from the boot partition? By the way, I got debian potato
  installed.
  
  Thanks fot any help,
  Manuel



Re: softwareraid

2000-11-17 Thread Alvin Oga

hi ya manuel..

sounds like you want a root-boot mirror...not just mirroring..
which is trickier...
- i say just run lilo on the mirrored disk...
  each time you change the booting thingies
  ( kernels, lilo, etc )
- than it should boot if you do get to hdb instead of hda
- why make it complicated ???

if / or the / partition dies...you've got bigger problems
than just mirroring anyway.mirroring wont hide the source/cause
of the problems...

c ya
alvin

On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Manuel Hendel wrote:

 Thanks for the first time. that's what I wanted. But is it possible to
 boot than from the mirror. How does this funktion?
 
 Thanks, 
 Manuel
 
  hi ya manuel..
  
  none you already have mirroring part of the kernel...
  
  just setup /etc/raidtab  for raid1 == mirroring
  
  http://ostenfeld.dk/~jakob/Software-RAID.HOWTO/
  
  http://www.Linux-Consulting.com/Raid/raid1.conf
  http://www.Linux-Consulting.com/Raid
  
  you can tell it what partitions to mirror...
  ( i think both disks should be partitioned indentically
  ( on identical manufacturers drives to minimize headaches
  
  have fun
  alvin
  http://www.linux-1U.net ... 1U Raid5 
  
  
  On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Manuel Hendel wrote:
  
   Hi,
   
   I have to setup a machine with a sofwareraid, just a mirror. Which
   tool should I use, raidtools, raidtools2 or mdutils?
   
   I already set up the machine on one disk. I made the five partitions,
   boot, root, swap, usr, var. Is it possible to mirror the whole disk
   and boot from the boot partition? By the way, I got debian potato
   installed.
   
   Thanks fot any help,
   Manuel
 
 
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Re: softwareraid

2000-11-17 Thread Manuel Hendel
I gonna try that. I'll tell you the results.

Thanks,
Manuel
 
 
 hi ya manuel..
 
 sounds like you want a root-boot mirror...not just mirroring..
 which is trickier...
   - i say just run lilo on the mirrored disk...
 each time you change the booting thingies
 ( kernels, lilo, etc )
   - than it should boot if you do get to hdb instead of hda
   - why make it complicated ???
 
 if / or the / partition dies...you've got bigger problems
 than just mirroring anyway.mirroring wont hide the source/cause
 of the problems...
 
 c ya
 alvin
 
 On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Manuel Hendel wrote:
 
  Thanks for the first time. that's what I wanted. But is it possible to
  boot than from the mirror. How does this funktion?
  
  Thanks, 
  Manuel
  
   hi ya manuel..
   
   none you already have mirroring part of the kernel...
   
   just setup /etc/raidtab  for raid1 == mirroring
   
 http://ostenfeld.dk/~jakob/Software-RAID.HOWTO/
   
 http://www.Linux-Consulting.com/Raid/raid1.conf
 http://www.Linux-Consulting.com/Raid
   
   you can tell it what partitions to mirror...
   ( i think both disks should be partitioned indentically
   ( on identical manufacturers drives to minimize headaches
   
   have fun
   alvin
   http://www.linux-1U.net ... 1U Raid5 
   
   
   On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Manuel Hendel wrote:
   
Hi,

I have to setup a machine with a sofwareraid, just a mirror. Which
tool should I use, raidtools, raidtools2 or mdutils?

I already set up the machine on one disk. I made the five partitions,
boot, root, swap, usr, var. Is it possible to mirror the whole disk
and boot from the boot partition? By the way, I got debian potato
installed.

Thanks fot any help,
Manuel
  
  
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VALinux box - NT4 - Debian emergency!

2000-11-17 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
Hi.
I've an urgent question, and I'd be most grateful if anyone with an answer
or advice would reply to me directly, as I only receive the digest for the
debian-user list.

I'm trying to propel my office which currently uses NT4 servers to serve
Mac workstations, to Linux servers. We need a new box and I've contacted
VALinux in the UK to spec one of these out. We have to have a box by the
end of next week!

A small complication as that we need to practise installing NT4 onto the
new server as we have a completely new IT support department who don't have
much experience in this area. I'd like to get the VALinux box, possibly
take out the hard drive/s and put in a temporary hd, install NT4, then put
back the Linux hard disks and reinstall lilo.

I'm very inexperienced with lilo, mbrs etc. I'd be grateful for any
comments on the feasibility and likely problems of the procedure I've
outline above.

Thanks for any help
Rory
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The Campbell-Lange Workshop
London



Supporting non-english (was: Re: Quiero saber si...)

2000-11-17 Thread Tomas Sanchez
Hi Debians!

This message is cross posted to debian-devel, debian-user and Miquel who posted 
the original message.

Hi debian-devel:
From time to time a message in a foreign (as opposed to english) language 
lands into the deb-user list and mostly nothing happens. I think that this 
could change if:

i) it was possible to choose language in the install process
ii) there where pointers in many languages of how to change this

regards.

Hi Debian-users:
Miquel wondered if it's possible to work entierly in spanish in Debian, since I 
can't answer his question I'm translaiting it and will translate an answer back 
to him.

Miquel wrote (my interpretation):
In short, he wonders of documentation in spanish.

regards.

Hola Miquel:

El lenguage para esta lista de e-mail es ingles. Yo he tratado de traduir tu 
pregunta. (como notas el espanol no es mi language mejor) Cuando llega una 
respuesta te la mando. Pero si sabes ingles, sera mejor si tu escribes tu 
pregunta otra ves.

saludos,
tomas

On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 06:36:55PM +0100, Miquel Segovia Aparicio wrote:
 Ante todo saludos Cordiales.
 
 Tambien si es fácil, porque hay un itinerario o guía, para inexperto y sin ni 
 Estudios Primarios.
 
 Salut i Agro Eco Bellvitge



Re: installing netscape

2000-11-17 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 23:37:24 -0700 (MST), John Galt wrote:


Neither navigator nor communicator are part of Debian proper, so won't be
on the CDs--they're not DFSG free, so are in the non-free section
(which is not officially supported by or officially part of Debian).  Some
vendors include a non-free CD, but a good portion do not.  Once you set up
apt for ftp/http, assuming you answered the non-free question in setup so
that you could get non-free, just apt-get it.

You are right, I looked for them in the CD's and I didn't find them! So,
as soon as I get TCP/IP working in my machine I will look for them in the
ftp sites.
Thanks for all the help!

Marcelo
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unable to run pppd (was wvdial)

2000-11-17 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
Hi to all!

On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:17:27 -0600, Robert Guthrie wrote:

On Thursday 16 November 2000 12:53, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:

 connection. How should I define the right privileges in order to run
 wvdial or pon from my personal account?
 Thanks in advance!

Add your personal account to the dip group.  
adduser youraccount dip

I did it, but still I am not able to run pon from my personal account. I
got the following messages after pon:

/usr/bin/pon: /usr/sbin/pppd: Permission denied
/usr/bin/pon: exec:/usr/sbin/pppd: cannot execute: Permission denied

(remember that my personal account is aready a member of dip)

I wonder if it is a matter of privilege. After  ls -l /usr/bin/pon I got

-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  root 50 Nov 4 19:07 /usr/bin/pon

and after ls -l /usr/sbin/pppd I got

-rwxr-x---  1  root  dip  183504  Nov 4 19:07 /usr/sbin/pppd

Any help will be very welcome. Thanks in advance

Regards,

Marcelo
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XEmacs CPerl: DEL doesn't forward-delete?

2000-11-17 Thread Ralf G. R. Bergs
Hi there,

I'm having a hard time fighting with XEmacs and/or CPerl.

For whatever reason the DEL key deletes backwords in XEmacs, but ONLY
in CPerl mode. In the scratch buffer or in CC mode DEL works as
expected. The same is true for XTerm windows (i.e. works as expected.)

Option Delete Key Deletes Forward *is* active.

Any ideas?!

Thanks for your help. This is really driving me crazy!!

Ralf



what fax software do you suggest?

2000-11-17 Thread Thomas Halahan
dear deb-users,

I have a stand allone debian box with a fax modem.  I want to send 
faxes from my box (but I don't really have to recieve them). 

Q  What software, from the debian distro, would you suggest which is 
easy to set up for sending PS files, for example.

Thanks Tom



Re: softwareraid

2000-11-17 Thread Manuel Hendel
I did all shown in the Softare-Raid-HOWTO, but it didn't work. I did
the mkraid /dev/md0 with the umounted partition /var. It aborted and
wanted me to look at the syslogs. But if the /var partition is
umounted, there's no place to log to.
What can I do now?

Thanks,
Manuel

 
 I gonna try that. I'll tell you the results.
 
 Thanks,
 Manuel
  
  
  hi ya manuel..
  
  sounds like you want a root-boot mirror...not just mirroring..
  which is trickier...
  - i say just run lilo on the mirrored disk...
each time you change the booting thingies
( kernels, lilo, etc )
  - than it should boot if you do get to hdb instead of hda
  - why make it complicated ???
  
  if / or the / partition dies...you've got bigger problems
  than just mirroring anyway.mirroring wont hide the source/cause
  of the problems...
  
  c ya
  alvin
  
  On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Manuel Hendel wrote:
  
   Thanks for the first time. that's what I wanted. But is it possible to
   boot than from the mirror. How does this funktion?
   
   Thanks, 
   Manuel
   
hi ya manuel..

none you already have mirroring part of the kernel...

just setup /etc/raidtab  for raid1 == mirroring

http://ostenfeld.dk/~jakob/Software-RAID.HOWTO/

http://www.Linux-Consulting.com/Raid/raid1.conf
http://www.Linux-Consulting.com/Raid

you can tell it what partitions to mirror...
( i think both disks should be partitioned indentically
( on identical manufacturers drives to minimize headaches

have fun
alvin
http://www.linux-1U.net ... 1U Raid5 


On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Manuel Hendel wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I have to setup a machine with a sofwareraid, just a mirror. Which
 tool should I use, raidtools, raidtools2 or mdutils?
 
 I already set up the machine on one disk. I made the five partitions,
 boot, root, swap, usr, var. Is it possible to mirror the whole disk
 and boot from the boot partition? By the way, I got debian potato
 installed.
 
 Thanks fot any help,
 Manuel
   
   
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Re: Apt-get UPgrade today

2000-11-17 Thread dude
thanks ill give it a try
g


On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, John Galt wrote:


 do a dist-upgrade and that should bring down the number of not
 installed...

 On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, dude wrote:

 
 
  Hello all.
 
  I've Just
  Upgraded today and have noted that exactly 41 packages have not been fully
  installed or removed
 
  The only error is get is:
 
  /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_4.0.1-5_386.deb
 
  thanks for the help
  please CC me a copy of your help directly
 
 
 

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bc - calculator

2000-11-17 Thread Joerg Johannes
Hi all

I have a lot of data that has to be processed, means 100 numbers having
to be divided by another 100 numbers. I did a job like this for adding
numbers to others by
bc  input-file  output-file
with input-file:
one # eg.   199+243
operation   #   198+392
per #   193-232
line#   195+3556

This was really great and saved me hours of time. The problem is now,
that I have to do the same thing with divisions, meaning 3/4 = 0.75. But
bc spits out 3/4 = 0 and 4/3 = 1. Any Idea how I can change this
behaviour to get the real results? Would save me some more hours...

thanks
joerg



Re: unable to run pppd (was wvdial)

2000-11-17 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 09:34:08AM -0500, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
 Hi to all!
 
 On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:17:27 -0600, Robert Guthrie wrote:
 
 On Thursday 16 November 2000 12:53, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
 
  connection. How should I define the right privileges in order to run
  wvdial or pon from my personal account?
  Thanks in advance!
 
 Add your personal account to the dip group.  
 adduser youraccount dip
 
 I did it, but still I am not able to run pon from my personal account. I
 got the following messages after pon:
 
 /usr/bin/pon: /usr/sbin/pppd: Permission denied
 /usr/bin/pon: exec:/usr/sbin/pppd: cannot execute: Permission denied
 
 (remember that my personal account is aready a member of dip)

did you logout after adding yourself to group dip?  group membership
does not take effect until the next login.

to check run `id' or `groups' and see if dip is listed.

 I wonder if it is a matter of privilege. After  ls -l /usr/bin/pon I got
 
 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  root 50 Nov 4 19:07 /usr/bin/pon
 
 and after ls -l /usr/sbin/pppd I got
 
 -rwxr-x---  1  root  dip  183504  Nov 4 19:07 /usr/sbin/pppd
 
 Any help will be very welcome. Thanks in advance

yup looks like you need to logout and relogin.  if you already did
that make sure your really a member of group dip, maybe something got
hosed in /etc/group or /etc/gshadow.

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Re: unable to run pppd (was wvdial)

2000-11-17 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
Hi!

On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 03:42:48 -0900, Ethan Benson wrote:

did you logout after adding yourself to group dip?  group membership
does not take effect until the next login.


Thanks! I didn't know that I have to relogin! I will see this tonight.

Regards,

Marcelo
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Re: unable to run pppd (was wvdial)

2000-11-17 Thread Ethan Benson
/me didn't look close enough...

On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 03:42:48AM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote:
  and after ls -l /usr/sbin/pppd I got
  
  -rwxr-x---  1  root  dip  183504  Nov 4 19:07 /usr/sbin/pppd
   ^-not suid.

that will also cause this problem, though the error above still looked
more like you were not a member of group dip...  make sure
/usr/sbin/pppd is setuid root, if not run:

chmod 4754 /usr/sbin/pppd

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Re: bc - calculator

2000-11-17 Thread Christoph Simon
On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 13:39:21 +0100
Joerg Johannes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This was really great and saved me hours of time. The problem is now,
 that I have to do the same thing with divisions, meaning 3/4 = 0.75. But
 bc spits out 3/4 = 0 and 4/3 = 1. Any Idea how I can change this
 behaviour to get the real results? Would save me some more hours...

I don't use bc but dc. There I have to say
5 k
to get 5 digits of decimal fractions. In bc, syntaxis is different, but
probably you'll have to do something similar.

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:q
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help
shit
.



Which processor type for Celeron?

2000-11-17 Thread Anthony Campbell
Which processor type should you chose for Celeron when compiling the
kernel? I'm using 586 - is this correct?


Anthony
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Free translation: Holdfast is your only dog.



Re: Netscape 6.0

2000-11-17 Thread Johann Spies
On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 11:13:05PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote:

 yes, remove netscape 6 and run:
 
 apt-get update
 apt-get install mozilla
 
 mozilla is much better then netscape 6 which is just an older mozilla
 snapshot with lots of AOL crap layered on top.   however mozilla is

My experience was that Mozilla M18 was not nearly as stable as
Netscape 4.75 and I removed it from my system.

Johann
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Re: subnets 2 NICS in a mashine

2000-11-17 Thread robert_wilhelm_land
Robert wrote:

 If your problem is that name service isn't working (despite the hosts file),
 it could be that Goofy is trying to find mini and mickey on the internet,
 where they are not visible.  I suggest not using a valid internet domain.
 I'd suggest orion.home or something more creative.  That way, goofy has to
 fall back on it's /etc/hosts file when DNS lookups fail.  Something else to
 look at first is your /etc/resolve.conf*.  It should contain a line like
 order hosts,bind, which tells it to look first in /etc/hosts, and then go
 to Bind for domain name resolution.   That may fix your problem with no
 further effort, but I'd still recommend making up a domain name that doesn't
 exist on the internet.
 
 If this problem occurs when you ping by number, then it's a routing problem,
 which always makes my brain hurt (I never did learn how to set routes
 manually).


What does bind for domain name resolution mean? Does the mashine
want to contact a internet nameserver?

Surprising that today after boot-up GOOFY _can_ ping MINI by name, but
not MICKEY. What I didn't seem to had made clear was that all mashines
can ping each other by IP adress except MINI vs MICKEY. How can I
achive that?


Since I do not have a internet dial on demand -  I really cannot
imagine that the domane you had found would affect my home network.

Could you help me further on?


Robert




Re: DMODVERSIONS causing a lot of problems

2000-11-17 Thread robert_wilhelm_land
Colin, the make procedure fails on the command gawk:

 
 Change this to:
 
 install: compile
  mv -f $(CONF) $(CONF).old
  gawk -f mod_conf $(CONF).old  $(CONF)   #!!!
  echo alias sound $(NAME)  $(CONF)
  echo alias midi $(NAME)  $(CONF)
  update-modules
  mkdir -p $(MODDIR)
  cp -f $(NAME).o $(MODDIR)
  -/sbin/depmod -a
  -/sbin/rmmod $(NAME)
  -/sbin/modprobe $(NAME)


This is the log:

MINI:~/drivers/sound/aureal# make install20
make install AUCHIP=AU8820
make[1]: Entering directory `/root/drivers/sound/aureal'
cc -D__KERNEL__  -DMODULE -DAU8820 -mpentium  -O6 -fomit-frame-pointer
-Wall -pipe -I /usr/src/linux/kernel-source-2.2.17/include   -c -o
au_audio.o au_audio.c
cc -D__KERNEL__  -DMODULE -DAU8820 -mpentium  -O6 -fomit-frame-pointer
-Wall -pipe -I /usr/src/linux/kernel-source-2.2.17/include   -c -o
au_midi.o au_midi.c
cc -D__KERNEL__  -DMODULE -DAU8820 -mpentium  -O6 -fomit-frame-pointer
-Wall -pipe -I /usr/src/linux/kernel-source-2.2.17/include   -c -o
au_core.o au_core.c
cc -D__KERNEL__  -DMODULE -DAU8820 -mpentium  -O6 -fomit-frame-pointer
-Wall -pipe -I /usr/src/linux/kernel-source-2.2.17/include   -c -o
au_sndstat.o au_sndstat.c
cc -D__KERNEL__  -DMODULE -DAU8820 -mpentium  -O6 -fomit-frame-pointer
-Wall -pipe -I /usr/src/linux/kernel-source-2.2.17/include   -c -o
au_mixer.o au_mixer.c
cc -D__KERNEL__  -DMODULE -DAU8820 -mpentium  -O6 -fomit-frame-pointer
-Wall -pipe -I /usr/src/linux/kernel-source-2.2.17/include   -c -o
au_utils.o au_utils.c
cc -D__KERNEL__  -DMODULE -DAU8820 -mpentium  -O6 -fomit-frame-pointer
-Wall -pipe -I /usr/src/linux/kernel-source-2.2.17/include   -c -o
au_vortex.o au_vortex.c
ld -m elf_i386 -r au_audio.o au_midi.o au_core.o au_sndstat.o
au_mixer.o au_utils.o au_vortex.o asp20.o -o au8820.o
mv -f /etc/modutils/aliases /etc/modutils/aliases.old
gawk -f mod_conf /etc/modutils/aliases.old  /etc/modutils/aliases
/bin/sh: gawk: command not found
make[1]: *** [install] Error 127
make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/drivers/sound/aureal'
make: *** [install20] Error 2

Which looks at least better than the old one.


Guessing gawk is a tool and man gawk failed - I tried a apt-cache
search gawk which returned the package:

dpkg-awk

..which I then installed from CD#1 - but it didn't help in the make
process, neither has a gawk manpage been installed.

Could you give me a hint?


Besides, emacs causes some difficulties:
I edited the makefile first and closed emacs. Then I realized that I
had missed something and opened the same makefile with emacs again.
Any editing command failed with a beep and a remark buffer read-only.
What had happened?
At the end only vi helped - puh... what a difficult editor to use...



Robert




Re: bc - calculator

2000-11-17 Thread Colin Watson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This was really great and saved me hours of time. The problem is now,
that I have to do the same thing with divisions, meaning 3/4 = 0.75. But
bc spits out 3/4 = 0 and 4/3 = 1. Any Idea how I can change this
behaviour to get the real results? Would save me some more hours...

You can use a command like 'scale=2' to bc to tell it to give you two
decimal places for floating-point arithmetic. So:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ bc --quiet
scale=2
3/4
.75
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ 

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Re: bc - calculator

2000-11-17 Thread Sebastian Canagaratna
Hi:
  Re using bc.

  Start bc.

  then type scale=5  ( for five decimal places for example)
  Then you can do your divisions.

  Hope this helps.

  Sebastian Canagaratna
  Department of Chemistry
  Ohio Northern University
  Ada, OH 45810



Re: bc - calculator

2000-11-17 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes
On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Christoph Simon wrote:

 On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 13:39:21 +0100
 Joerg Johannes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  This was really great and saved me hours of time. The problem is now,
  that I have to do the same thing with divisions, meaning 3/4 = 0.75. But
  bc spits out 3/4 = 0 and 4/3 = 1. Any Idea how I can change this
  behaviour to get the real results? Would save me some more hours...
 
 I don't use bc but dc. There I have to say
 5 k
 to get 5 digits of decimal fractions. In bc, syntaxis is different, but
 probably you'll have to do something similar.


in bc use scale = 5 to get 5 digits after decimal point. check bc(1) for
more details and examples

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Re: Netscape 6.0

2000-11-17 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 01:57:39PM +0200, Johann Spies wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 11:13:05PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote:
 
  yes, remove netscape 6 and run:
  
  apt-get update
  apt-get install mozilla
  
  mozilla is much better then netscape 6 which is just an older mozilla
  snapshot with lots of AOL crap layered on top.   however mozilla is
 
 My experience was that Mozilla M18 was not nearly as stable as
 Netscape 4.75 and I removed it from my system.

i have found its certainly more of a pig, and its interface is very
sluggish, it does tend to be less stable too, but only for certain
sites.  i think for most people sticking with netscape 4.75 is
probably the best thing for now.

having said that, netscape 6 is still far worse then mozilla, don't be
fooled by AOL/Netscape calling it `final gold release'.

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Creative Soundblaster PCI238 and kernel

2000-11-17 Thread Anthony Campbell
I have Creative Soundblaster Audio PCI238 sound card.

I can't see this in the menu for the current kernel.

Amyone know which entry to use?

Anthony
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Re: Which processor type for Celeron?

2000-11-17 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 12:56:54PM +, Anthony Campbell wrote:
 Which processor type should you chose for Celeron when compiling the
 kernel? I'm using 586 - is this correct?

if its a recent celeron you can use 686, thats what i have been using
without problems:

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Re: DMODVERSIONS causing a lot of problems

2000-11-17 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 at 12:40:27 +0100, robert_wilhelm_land wrote:
 This is the log:
 
 MINI:~/drivers/sound/aureal# make install20
 make install AUCHIP=AU8820
 make[1]: Entering directory `/root/drivers/sound/aureal'
 cc -D__KERNEL__  -DMODULE -DAU8820 -mpentium  -O6 -fomit-frame-pointer
 -Wall -pipe -I /usr/src/linux/kernel-source-2.2.17/include   -c -o
 au_audio.o au_audio.c

[snip] Looks like it's progressing nicely.

 Guessing gawk is a tool and man gawk failed - I tried a apt-cache
 search gawk which returned the package:
 
 dpkg-awk

Ah, no - you want the 'gawk' package itself.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ dpkg -p gawk
Package: gawk
Priority: optional
Section: interpreters
Installed-Size: 708
Maintainer: James Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Architecture: i386
Version: 1:3.0.4-4
[...]

I'm not sure why 'apt-cache search gawk' didn't show that for you - it
does for me (on both potato and woody systems).

 Besides, emacs causes some difficulties:
 I edited the makefile first and closed emacs. Then I realized that I
 had missed something and opened the same makefile with emacs again.
 Any editing command failed with a beep and a remark buffer read-only.
 What had happened?

Odd. Does the user you're running emacs as have write permissions to the
file? Although admittedly then vi wouldn't work either. I don't use
emacs, so I can't really help here.

 At the end only vi helped - puh... what a difficult editor to use...

vi (well, vim, anyway) is the One True Editor. :)

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Soundblaster AWE 64: potato package update wrecked sound

2000-11-17 Thread Berthold Cogel
Hello!

I had a working sound configuration until last weekend with Debian 2.2,
Kernel 2.2.17 and Soundblaster AWE 64 Gold.  
Then I decided to update my system from potato-stable (about 32
packages/25 MB). Since the next reboot the module sb wants to use IRQ7
and sound isn't working anymore.
This happened before after I updated my system from Debian 2.1 to Debian
2.2. I did a lot of things like disabling the BIOS support for PNP
Operating Systems, building a kernel without sound, disabling isapnp,
deleting modules.conf. Just like a blind chicken looking for food :-(.
Somehow I managed to revive the sound. 
 
This time I updated only some packages. I didn't change the sound
configuration! 

base-config0.32   -  0.33.2 
base-passwd3.1.7  -  3.1.10 
debconf0.2.80.16  -  0.2.80.17  
dpkg   1.6.14 -  1.6.15 
dpkg-dev   1.6.14 -  1.6.15 
make   3.78.1-8   -  3.79.1-1.potato 
makedev2.3.1-44   -  2.3.1-46.2 
modutils   2.3.11-8   -  2.3.11-10  

Additionally I updated some XFree-3.3.6 Packages.

What the h... is going on. This is weird.
Now I`m looking for 'professional' help

Thanks in advance

Berthold Cogel



Re: Netscape 6.0

2000-11-17 Thread Daniel Borgmann
  My experience was that Mozilla M18 was not nearly as stable as
  Netscape 4.75 and I removed it from my system.

 i have found its certainly more of a pig, and its interface is very
 sluggish, it does tend to be less stable too, but only for certain
 sites.  i think for most people sticking with netscape 4.75 is
 probably the best thing for now.

the stability is ok for a beta software, but it's far too slow, cause it 
loads an entire new operating system... this may be nice, but in the moment i 
would only like to use the nice gecko engine for compatibility tests and some 
sites that can't be rendered properly with khtml.
getting used to konqueror, i don't like the slow mozilla interface any more. 
i tried galeon but it didn't fit my needs. i heared of skipstone and really 
really want to try it. but unfortunatly there is only a woody version :(
is there any way to get skipstone for a potato system?

-Daniel

 having said that, netscape 6 is still far worse then mozilla, don't be
 fooled by AOL/Netscape calling it `final gold release'.



Re: Netscape 6.0

2000-11-17 Thread vijay
At Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:44:05 +0100 , Daniel Borgmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

  My experience was that Mozilla M18 was not nearly as stable as
  Netscape 4.75 and I removed it from my system.

 i have found its certainly more of a pig, and its interface is very
 sluggish, it does tend to be less stable too, but only for certain
 sites.  i think for most people sticking with netscape 4.75 is
 probably the best thing for now.

the stability is ok for a beta software, but it's far too slow, cause it 
loads an entire new operating system... this may be nice, but in the moment i 
would only like to use the nice gecko engine for compatibility tests and some 
sites that can't be rendered properly with khtml.
getting used to konqueror, i don't like the slow mozilla interface any more. 
i tried galeon but it didn't fit my needs. i heared of skipstone and really 
really want to try it. but unfortunatly there is only a woody version :(
is there any way to get skipstone for a potato system?

-Daniel

 having said that, netscape 6 is still far worse then mozilla, don't be
 fooled by AOL/Netscape calling it `final gold release'.


Yes netscape 6 is definitely slow. People having the bandwidth anf feeling 
adventorous may be better of downloading a recent nightly of mozilla(post M18). 
It is definitely faster and a lot stabler and gives the appearence that the 
developers are doing a good job at tweaking it. 
An even better proposition will be to use something like Galeon which uses the 
gecko rendering engine but is not as bulky as mozilla. Works great for me for 
light duty web browsing. For other work back to Netscape 4.75. :)

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Re: Creative Soundblaster PCI238 and kernel

2000-11-17 Thread Michael Epting
In 2.4.0-test10, it´s Creative Ensoniq AudiioPCI 97 (ES1371).  I have
heard that some older PCI128´s might be ES1370, which is also available.

If you check the archives, you will find several people saying that you 
need the ALSA drivers to make this card work.  I can verify that it works
with ALSA, but I recently made a second stab and now have it going with
just the kernel modules.  The trick is to have only this line in 
/etc/modutils/audio: 
alias sound-slot-0 es1371

When I was using ALSA I had problems with the sound breaking up when the
CPU got busy (a 900 MHz Thunderbird, yet!), but no such problem now. 

On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 01:21:03PM +, Anthony Campbell wrote:
 I have Creative Soundblaster Audio PCI238 sound card.
 
 I can't see this in the menu for the current kernel.
 
 Amyone know which entry to use?



CISCO -- debian tool(s)

2000-11-17 Thread Debian Ghost
Hey Guys,   
I was wondering if there were any debian tools used for working with Cisco
routers and/or other Cisco gear. I was thinking about things like
analytical tools and configuration tools. Mainly I am interested in
anything that is happening now and/or being developed.

Any info much appriciated!

D. Ghost




'Stable' tracks 2.2r0, 2.2r1,...?

2000-11-17 Thread Monte Milanuk
Hello,

A simple question here:

If I have a machine that is using apt-get to stay in sync
w/ the security updates and bug fixes in stable, does this
automatically keep it up w/ the latest stable version? 
i.e., my install cd's were 2.2r0.  Now 2.2r1 is out. Soon
(hopefully) 2.2r2 will be out.  Will apt-get automatically
keep up w/ the latest stable release, using the default
settings for stable in /etc/apt/sources.list, or do I need
to change something?  I would hope/think that it would, I
am just looking for a confirmation from someone who knows.


Thanks,

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Re: CISCO -- debian tool(s)

2000-11-17 Thread Youri Albinovanus
Debian Ghost wrote:

 Hey Guys,
 I was wondering if there were any debian tools used for working with Cisco
 routers and/or other Cisco gear. I was thinking about things like
 analytical tools and configuration tools. Mainly I am interested in
 anything that is happening now and/or being developed.

 Any info much appriciated!

 D. Ghost

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I know that cisco has a product that work on solaris and NT, not yet on linux
but they are working on it.
Actually i use minicom to configure debug and monitor what's happening on my
ciscos and i'm really glad about it. ;o)
To monitor cisco routers and/or NAS, you can use rrdtool and mrtg to get info
about bandwith, and snmp to reconfigure the cisco on the fly (for example in
combination with lids).

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Re: Re: Conexion a internet

2000-11-17 Thread manurung
please send to me again

thanks

** Original Message **

Antonio Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Shortly: Thinks connects to isp with Debian 2.2 potato, modem zoltrix external 
56k,

pentium 200 ,wvdial. Netscape does not go beyond looking



If you want wide help, write in English -si quieres amplia ayuda, escribe en 
ingles-.





ROBERTOCALVENTE wrote:



 Hola, me llamo roberto y os escribi un e-mail el otro dia. Mi pregunta

 era y sigue siendo la siguiente:



 como me puedo conectar a internet con Linux?



 Tengo instalada la Debian 2.2 potato, un modem zoltrix externo 56k y

 pentium 200 MMX.



 Lo intenté con el wvdial y parece que conecta ya que el modem hace el

 ruido estridente de comprobar el ancho de banda, y luego me comprueba

 el login y el password del ISP, a continuacion me pone starting pppd.

 Por lo que supongo que ha conectado. Sin embargo, cuando ejecuto el

 netscape no entra en ninguna pagina, solo me sale conect loking

 www.direccion que le doy y ya esta no puedo entrar en ninguna pagina.



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Re: CISCO -- debian tool(s)

2000-11-17 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Friday 17 November 2000, at 9 h 25, the keyboard of Debian Ghost 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was wondering if there were any debian tools used for working with Cisco
 routers and/or other Cisco gear. 

Everything is in Debian packages:

m4 (to create configuration files)
mrtg (to get stats from the boxes)
mon (to monitor the boxes)
telnet (just in case)




Re: subnets 2 NICS in a mashine

2000-11-17 Thread Stefan Janecek
In a galaxy not too far away, robert_wilhelm_land spoke on Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 
01:31:16PM +0100:
 
 What does bind for domain name resolution mean? Does the mashine
 want to contact a internet nameserver?
yes, that's exactly what it means.
 
 Surprising that today after boot-up GOOFY _can_ ping MINI by name, but
 not MICKEY. What I didn't seem to had made clear was that all mashines
 can ping each other by IP adress except MINI vs MICKEY. How can I
 achive that?
 
uh,uh. things start getting complicated, especially because i missed the 
beginning of the thread. from what i can figure out, your configuration
is the following:
   GOOFY
  (192.168.1.1)eth0 eth1(192.168.2.1)
/  \
   /\
(192.168.1.2) MICKEYMINI (192.168.2.2)

and on goofy your hosts file is
 #file /etc/hosts
 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.domain
 192.168.1.1 GOOFY.ORION.DE GOOFY
 194.25.2.129 t-online.de t-online
 192.168.2.2  MINI.ORION.DE MINI
 192.168.1.2 MICKEY.ORION MICKEY

first: DONT use real (internet) domain names if you ever want to connect
your system to the internet. this will save you a lot of troubles.

- Can all machines ping each other by IP ?(that would mean IP-forwarding
  works)?

- Who can ping whom by name? thats a matter of name resolution. i noticed
  that you have
  192.168.2.2  MINI.ORION.DE MINI
  but only
  192.168.1.2 MICKEY.ORION MICKEY
  maybe thats the source for some of your problems.

- How do the /etc/hosts files of the clients (mickey, mini) look like?
  if you want them to ping each other by name you will have to do one
  of the following:
  + keep correct hosts files on every client. bad idea, esp. if you want
to attach more clients to your network.
  + serve /etc/hosts by NIS. thats what i would do for a home network.
  + install a DNS server on goofy for your domain. maybe too sophisticated
for just a few clients - except you want to learn how to run a DNS
server...

What i did not catch at all: why are you serving two clients by two NICS?
would make sense only for an exercise on 'how to configure ipforwarding'

greets,
/stefan.


 
 
 
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Re: Apt-get UPgrade today

2000-11-17 Thread dude


still Didnt help install xlibs which seems to be the root of the problem

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On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, John Galt wrote:


 do a dist-upgrade and that should bring down the number of not
 installed...

 On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, dude wrote:

 
 
  Hello all.
 
  I've Just
  Upgraded today and have noted that exactly 41 packages have not been fully
  installed or removed
 
  The only error is get is:
 
  /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_4.0.1-5_386.deb
 
  thanks for the help
  please CC me a copy of your help directly
 
 
 

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Re: Netscape 6.0

2000-11-17 Thread Ekkehard Kraemer
Daniel Borgmann wrote:
 
   My experience was that Mozilla M18 was not nearly as stable as
   Netscape 4.75 and I removed it from my system.
 
  i have found its certainly more of a pig
 
...
 i heared of skipstone and really really want to try it.

I just installed Skipstone, and it looks good (suits me better than
Galeon, at least). Apart from being leaner than Mozilla/Netscape (small
wonder, it aims to do much less), it has the one single feature which
made me pay for the Opera browser (on another well-loved OS whose name I
will not mention here :-) ).

The feature I mean is this: you can switch Skipstone to tabbed mode,
and all browser windows are contained in one single real window (read:
MDI mode). But it still gets better: if you open a link in a new window
now, the new window is opened *behind* the current window. That is, you
can open a list of links with just a few clicks, and don't need to
constantly shuffle windows around. Nice feature for people who browse
breath-first, like me. Granted, it's only one click less then with
other browsers, but it's still nice and definitively makes the desktop
less cluttered.

Ekkehard



Re: install 2.2 with 2.2.13 kernel

2000-11-17 Thread Stefan Janecek
In a galaxy not too far away, [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke on Fri, Nov 10, 2000 at 
04:19:32PM +0100:
 
 
 Hi,
 
 sorry for my stupid question but how can i install debian 2.2 with the 2.2.13
 (or 2.2.15) kernel ??

apt-get install kernel-source-2.2.15
cd /usr/src
tar -xIf kernel-source-2.2.15.tar.bz2
cd kernel-source-2.2.15
make config or make menuconfig or whatever you like to configure your 
kernel with...
make-kpkg --revision yourkernel1 kernel_image
dpkg -i ../kernel-image-2.2.15_yourkernel1_i386.deb

this assumes you have make-kpkg installed(apt-get install make-kpkg)

err... you have to do the above as root. this is generally considered not to be
a good idea. if you want to be pedantic, add yourself to group src and do the 
above as you, using fakeroot for make-kpkg.

hope that helps,
/stefan.

 
 Thanks in advance for help.
 
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