Re: lilo.conf

2001-01-05 Thread David B . Harris
To quote Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
# On Saturday 06 January 2001 14:55, you wrote:
# > I request that you provide support for me telling lilo that I don't
# > want it touching my lilo.conf at all.  Also, you should consider how
# > to deal with changes that the user makes by hand to lilo.conf.  If
you
# > don't regenerate existing lilo.conf files then you should not have
# > much of a problem.  If you do, then it gets fun.
# 
# One thing that I am considering is to have a file /etc/lilo.conf.user
file 
# (or maybe some other name).  This file will be included into the
debconf 
# generated settings just before the "image" parts.  Then you could put
in any 
# other settings you want.
# 
# I'll put in an option to not change lilo.conf in the next version.

I'd also like to suggest that a file be made which will override any of
debconf's settings. That way, if I can't have lba32(for instance, if it
does bad things), I can make sure it never gets there.

Dave



Re: Parallel Printer Port Problem

2001-01-05 Thread Jeffrey S. Coppock
Jo, et al;

I tried the echo redirect below and was told 'permission denied', so I tried it 
as root and it worked, the printer printed the message.

I chmod 0666 /dev/lp0 and it worked without su.

I tried tried lpr -Plp  and it wouldn't work with or without su.

On the magicfilter config, are you talking about the printcap file?  That was 
generated by the magicfilterconfig utility, and I deleted and recreated this 
file several times.  Here's what it looks like:

The lpd.conf file has all options commented out.

The lpd.perms file looks fine:

## You can make sure that connections come from a privileged port.
## Default is to allow them from any port so that non-setuid programs
#  can do printing.
#  Totally RFC1179
#REJECT SERVICE=X NOT PORT=1-1023
#REJECT SERVICE=X NOT PORT=1-1023
#  Privileged
#REJECT SERVICE=X NOT PORT=721-731
#
# allow root on server to control jobs
ACCEPT SERVICE=C SERVER REMOTEUSER=root
# allow anybody to get server, status, and printcap
ACCEPT SERVICE=C LPC=lpd,status,printcap
# reject all others
REJECT SERVICE=C
#
# allow same user on originating host to remove a job
ACCEPT SERVICE=M SAMEHOST SAMEUSER
# allow root on server to remove a job
ACCEPT SERVICE=M SERVER REMOTEUSER=root
REJECT SERVICE=M
# all other operations allowed
DEFAULT ACCEPT

Any other ideas?

thanks,
jc

---

# This file was generated by /usr/sbin/magicfilterconfig.
#
lp|dj952c|HP Deskjet 952C:\
:lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/dj952c:\
:sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\
:if=/etc/magicfilter/dj690c-best-filter:\
:af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:

Also, nothing is being logged and nothing shows up in the queue (lpq).

On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 10:32:42AM +, Jo Geraerts wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Jeffrey S. Coppock wrote:
> 
> > Jan  4 07:36:20 localhost kernel: parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 
> > 7, dma 3 [SPP,ECP,ECPPS2]
> > Jan  4 07:36:21 localhost kernel: parport_probe: succeeded
> > Jan  4 07:36:21 localhost kernel: parport0: Printer, HEWLETT-PACKARD 
> > DESKJET 950C
> > Jan  4 07:36:21 localhost kernel: lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven).
> > I've re-installed magicfilter, but that didn't help either.
> 
> Does it print if you run the following command:
> 
> echo "this is a test">/dev/lp0
> 
> If it doesn't, take another look to the log's for errors. If it does,
> there's something wrong with your magicfilter config
> 
> Greetz,
> Jo

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RE: lilo.conf

2001-01-05 Thread Marc Wilson
Ok, lets answer these in order:

True.  I missed that on debian-devel.  I have been pointed to the message.
I apologize.

No, /etc/lilo.conf.old does NOT have a backup.  It has a copy of a
configuration I was using months ago.  More than likely I'd made a copy of
my configuration for some reason under that name, although I don't remember
doing it.  I do recognize the configuration in that file as being an old
one, however.  Does yours not overwrite a .old file if it finds one?  Why
was a backup necessary in the first place?  I wasn't asked if I wanted my
configuration overwritten.  Why didn't it auto-run the debconf front-end,
for that matter, which would have at least been an indication that, hey,
you'd better save that file!

Assuming that everyone uses kernel-package is stupid.  Plain and simple.
Not bothering to look at the running configuration to make SURE is even
worse.  If you're going to throw the "you're running unstable" shill at me,
I'm going to throw right back at you the fact that people running unstable
are likely to compile their own kernels.  And horrors, they might actually
download a tarball and do it that way.  Why would I want a deb of my kernel?
I'm not going to run it anywhere else, so what good is portability?

Certainly I do.  That's why I run unstable.  But unstable doesn't mean that
the maintainer makes a deliberate attempt to lunch your box.  "Sorry for the
data loss?"  (quote from postinst) You KNEW this was going to do this.

As for filing bug reports, I note that several people already have on these
issues.  Should I add another?  Would it have helped?

You haven't MADE a request for my lilo.conf.  Here it is:

boot=/dev/hda
root=/dev/hda3
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
lba32
# restricted
password="password"
default="linux"
read-only
# delay=20
prompt
timeout=100
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux
image=/boot/vmlinuz.old
label=linux.old
image=/boot/vmlinuz.safe
label=linux.safe
image=/boot/vmlinuz.test11
label=linux.test11
image=/boot/vmlinuz.test12
label=linux.test12
image=/boot/vmlinuz.prerel
label=linux.prerel

I'm not planning on being a developer.  I *am* planning on keeping my boxen
running.

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 -Original Message-
From:   Russell Coker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Friday, January 05, 2001 8:50 PM
To: Marc Wilson; debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:Re: lilo.conf

On Saturday 06 January 2001 15:12, Marc Wilson wrote:
> Why the hell are you doing anything at ALL?  You're not the maintainer,

The previous maintainer of lilo invited me to take over.

> your preinst/postinst is screwed, you trash a working configuration with
> unwarranted assumptions on your own part and don't even save a backup of
> the original configuration.  I had SIX working kernel images defined in my

/etc/lilo.conf.old has a backup.

> configuration, all in /boot.  Now I have NONE, because you removed their
> configurations, and replaced them with configurations pointing to the root
> of the filesystem where, needless to say, there are no kernel images.

If you had symbolic links installed (as all kernel packages produced by the
kernel-package package will have) then it will work.

> You removed my PASSWORD definitions.  So much for security, eh?  You
> removed my 'lba32' setting.  And you didn't even mention that you were
> going to do it before it happened.  You, sir, are a menace.

Do you have any understanding of what the word "unstable" means?

If you install a package from unstable then you face a risk that it won't
work correctly.  The proceedure that you should follow is to file a bug
report describing how it didn't work as you expected.  If you are unable to
file bug reports and have a risk of things not working as designed then you
should stick to potato.

Also you have ignored my request for a copy of your lilo.conf.
NB I expect passwords to be removed before people upload their lilo.conf
files - I didn't mention this before because it's stating the obvious, but
it
seems that some things which are obvious to the rest of us aren't obvious to
you.

> Your comments in postinst are insulting and intentionally inflammatory.
> I'd hope that you can at least make the claim that English isn't your
first
> language, because if it is, you've really got problems.

Actually those parts weren't written by me, they were written by someone who
(from their email address) appears to be Hungarian.  I have already started
correcting the writing.

> Whyinhell are you making NMU's on critical system files when you don't
know
> what you're doing?

I had put pre-release versions online and informed everyone on debian-devel
of what I was doing.  Anyone who was interested was free to test them and
comment.  I also announced the pre-release versions on the ReiserFS list
(the
new version solves the ReiserFS problems).

I knew that this had poten

Re: kernel 2.4.0, make-kpkg

2001-01-05 Thread Nate Amsden
"Noah L. Meyerhans" wrote:

> It doesn't appear you know kernel-package as well as you thought.  You
> merely need to assign the package an epoch, and apt-get/dselect won't
> try to overwrite it.  A version number like 3:1.0 or something works
> just fine and won't be replaced by anything debian releases.

argh damnit.

so ... --revision=3\:1.0 ??

*shrug*

maybe i should just do it the old fashoned way ...

thanks

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Re: boot problems take 2

2001-01-05 Thread Brian May
> "D-Man" == D-Man  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

D-Man> Does nobody have any suggestions?  I see lots of helpful
D-Man> suggestions on the list daily, but no comments on my
D-Man> problem yet.

I think you need to show more detail.

For instance, I have seen somebody make the mistake of trying to use
the wrong file as the Linux kernel, which of course will not work.

However, it is not possible to tell from your description what went
wrong.

I don't use loadlin either, so if it is something specific to that I
can't help.

However, it isn't anything specific to Debian that wouldn't also apply
to Redhat - they both use the Linux kernel.
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Re: lilo.conf

2001-01-05 Thread Russell Coker
On Saturday 06 January 2001 15:12, Marc Wilson wrote:
> Why the hell are you doing anything at ALL?  You're not the maintainer,

The previous maintainer of lilo invited me to take over.

> your preinst/postinst is screwed, you trash a working configuration with
> unwarranted assumptions on your own part and don't even save a backup of
> the original configuration.  I had SIX working kernel images defined in my

/etc/lilo.conf.old has a backup.

> configuration, all in /boot.  Now I have NONE, because you removed their
> configurations, and replaced them with configurations pointing to the root
> of the filesystem where, needless to say, there are no kernel images.

If you had symbolic links installed (as all kernel packages produced by the 
kernel-package package will have) then it will work.

> You removed my PASSWORD definitions.  So much for security, eh?  You
> removed my 'lba32' setting.  And you didn't even mention that you were
> going to do it before it happened.  You, sir, are a menace.

Do you have any understanding of what the word "unstable" means?

If you install a package from unstable then you face a risk that it won't 
work correctly.  The proceedure that you should follow is to file a bug 
report describing how it didn't work as you expected.  If you are unable to 
file bug reports and have a risk of things not working as designed then you 
should stick to potato.

Also you have ignored my request for a copy of your lilo.conf.
NB I expect passwords to be removed before people upload their lilo.conf 
files - I didn't mention this before because it's stating the obvious, but it 
seems that some things which are obvious to the rest of us aren't obvious to 
you.

> Your comments in postinst are insulting and intentionally inflammatory. 
> I'd hope that you can at least make the claim that English isn't your first
> language, because if it is, you've really got problems.

Actually those parts weren't written by me, they were written by someone who 
(from their email address) appears to be Hungarian.  I have already started 
correcting the writing.

> Whyinhell are you making NMU's on critical system files when you don't know
> what you're doing?

I had put pre-release versions online and informed everyone on debian-devel 
of what I was doing.  Anyone who was interested was free to test them and 
comment.  I also announced the pre-release versions on the ReiserFS list (the 
new version solves the ReiserFS problems).

I knew that this had potential to cause trouble.  This is why I requested 
testers and input from debian-devel several times.

NB  You don't have to be a Debian developer to subscribe to debian-devel.  If 
you run the unstable distribution then you should probably be subscribed.

Now if you have any positive suggestions then I would like to hear them.  
Suggesting that we keep an old lilo that can't correctly handle software RAID 
or ReiserFS isn't an option.  Suggesting that I don't maintain lilo is not an 
option because the only other person who has expressed interest is the person 
who wrote the debconf text you greatly object to.

If you wish to become a Debian developer and want to take over lilo then this 
could be an option.  However I don't think it would be a good first package 
so you would be better off maintaining something else first.  Let me know if 
you'd like to persue this option.

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Re: lilo.conf

2001-01-05 Thread Brian May
w> "Marc" == Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Marc> Why the hell are you doing anything at ALL?  You're not the

Read http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-0101/msg4.html>.

Marc> maintainer, your preinst/postinst is screwed, you trash a
Marc> working configuration with unwarranted assumptions on your
Marc> own part and don't even save a backup of the original
Marc> configuration.  I had SIX working kernel images defined in
Marc> my configuration, all in /boot.  Now I have NONE, because
Marc> you removed their configurations, and replaced them with
Marc> configurations pointing to the root of the filesystem where,
Marc> needless to say, there are no kernel images.

The scripts probably should (at the very least) make a backup copy of
/etc/lilo.conf, just in case. Other people have made other comments on
this.
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Re: lilo.conf

2001-01-05 Thread Russell Coker
On Saturday 06 January 2001 14:09, David B.Harris wrote:
> To quote Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> # I am working on the Debian package of lilo and am writing code for
> # auto-generating lilo.conf files.
> #
> # Below is an example of the type of lilo.conf that can be generated.
> The
> # debconf asks whether you want boot or boot-menu as the boot loader, it
> asks
> # what VGA mode you want, what parameters to append, and what DOS
> partitions to
> # setup with the "other=" settings.  The rest is inferred from the
> running
> # system.
> #
> # If your lilo.conf has things that aren't in this which you think
> should be in
> # debconf then please do an anonymous ftp to ivanova.coker.com.au and
> upload it
> # to the incoming directory.  I'll try and make the next version do what
> you
> # require.
>
> Doesn't look to shabby :) I'm assuming that the paths to drives and
> partitions are gleaned from current system settings, right? :)

It scans /etc/fstab for the root file system (NB it does not look at what's 
currently mounted).  This is easier to implement and also works in some of 
the stranger ways of running things (like a chroot environment).  Then it 
deduces the place for the MBR from this (taking into account software RAID 
and devfs disk naming).

The image lines are /vmlinuz and /vmlinuz.old because that's what 
kernel-package generates.

> Anyways, I have 'lba32' in my main lilo.conf section. For more recent
> LILOs(anything after 21.6, I think - though I could be off), it'll allow
> for booting kernel images past the 8.4G(1024th cylinder) mark.

I'll add that next.

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Re: lilo.conf

2001-01-05 Thread Russell Coker
On Saturday 06 January 2001 14:55, you wrote:
> I request that you provide support for me telling lilo that I don't
> want it touching my lilo.conf at all.  Also, you should consider how
> to deal with changes that the user makes by hand to lilo.conf.  If you
> don't regenerate existing lilo.conf files then you should not have
> much of a problem.  If you do, then it gets fun.

One thing that I am considering is to have a file /etc/lilo.conf.user file 
(or maybe some other name).  This file will be included into the debconf 
generated settings just before the "image" parts.  Then you could put in any 
other settings you want.

I'll put in an option to not change lilo.conf in the next version.

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RE: lilo.conf

2001-01-05 Thread Marc Wilson
Why the hell are you doing anything at ALL?  You're not the maintainer, your
preinst/postinst is screwed, you trash a working configuration with
unwarranted assumptions on your own part and don't even save a backup of the
original configuration.  I had SIX working kernel images defined in my
configuration, all in /boot.  Now I have NONE, because you removed their
configurations, and replaced them with configurations pointing to the root
of the filesystem where, needless to say, there are no kernel images.

You removed my PASSWORD definitions.  So much for security, eh?  You removed
my 'lba32' setting.  And you didn't even mention that you were going to do
it before it happened.  You, sir, are a menace.

Your comments in postinst are insulting and intentionally inflammatory.  I'd
hope that you can at least make the claim that English isn't your first
language, because if it is, you've really got problems.

Whyinhell are you making NMU's on critical system files when you don't know
what you're doing?

-
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.moonkingdom.net/mwilson

 -Original Message-
From:   Russell Coker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Friday, January 05, 2001 6:52 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:lilo.conf

I am working on the Debian package of lilo and am writing code for
auto-generating lilo.conf files.

Below is an example of the type of lilo.conf that can be generated.  The
debconf asks whether you want boot or boot-menu as the boot loader, it asks
what VGA mode you want, what parameters to append, and what DOS partitions
to
setup with the "other=" settings.  The rest is inferred from the running
system.

If your lilo.conf has things that aren't in this which you think should be
in
debconf then please do an anonymous ftp to ivanova.coker.com.au and upload
it
to the incoming directory.  I'll try and make the next version do what you
require.

boot=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc
root=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3
compact
install=/boot/boot-menu.b
delay=20
map=/boot/map
append="video=vesa:ywrap,pmipal,mtrr"
vga=791
read-only
image=/vmlinuz
label=Linux
image=/vmlinuz.old
label=old
other=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1
label=part1
table=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc

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Re: kernel 2.4.0, make-kpkg

2001-01-05 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 06:53:37PM -0800, Nate Amsden wrote:
> now that ive learned that [EMAIL PROTECTED] kernel-package
> i do
> 
> make menuconfig ; make-kpkg clean ; make-kpkg
> --revision=10.0++ binary
> e.g
> make-kpkg --revision=10.0+ow1+ide+lm_sensors+ipsec
> 
> sometimes i do revision of 20 or higher to try to be sure apt-get wont
> try to upgrade it ...
> 

It doesn't appear you know kernel-package as well as you thought.  You
merely need to assign the package an epoch, and apt-get/dselect won't
try to overwrite it.  A version number like 3:1.0 or something works
just fine and won't be replaced by anything debian releases.

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Re: Raidtools2 with kernel 2.2.18

2001-01-05 Thread Alvin Oga

hi ya jon...

yeah... mingos patch does NOT apply cleanly...

but if you follow the steps at www.linuxraid.org...
it patches fine at least for the deb-2.2 system i have

c ya
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> Luca Micheletti wrote:
> > 
> > P.S. Is there a  raid patch for 2.2.18??
> 
> There is, but it does not apply cleanly.  I'm dissappointed.  I've been
> trying to get in contact with the raid2 patch maintainer,
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Re: Raidtools2 with kernel 2.2.18

2001-01-05 Thread Alvin Oga

hi ya luca...

try looking for more info at www.linuxraid.org

i patched linux-2.2.18 per its instructions and the old
raid is still alive and well w/ deb-2.2

have fun raiding
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On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Luca Micheletti wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> i have a debian potato 2.2 with kernel 2.2.18.
> It is possible use raidtools2 with this kernel
> On the packages raidtools2_0.90.990824-5.deb suggest a 
> kernel-patch-2.2.10-raid
> but my kernel is 2.2.18
> 
> The question is for use raidtools2 i must change my kernel with an older 
> kernel or can i use
> my kernel
> 
> Thank you for the attention.
> Luca Micheletti.
> 
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Slow responses

2001-01-05 Thread D-Man

Just an FYI,  it seems that my outgoing mail takes quite a while to
reach the list.  (I don't believe it is the list's fault)  My message Re the 
c++ compiler was sent several hours
ago, but just arrived in my folder.  After sending my message I
received the message from other people sent around the same time as me
(even after!).

This is just to avoid any flames about being behind schedule and just
mimicking other peoples messages.  (I have already received such a
message)

-D



boot problems take 2

2001-01-05 Thread D-Man

Does nobody have any suggestions?  I see lots of helpful suggestions
on the list daily, but no comments on my problem yet.

Should I forget about Debian and continue with RedHat?

Please offer suggestions, even if it is a wild guess.  Anything would
be helpful.

-D

On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 09:40:42PM -0500, D-Man wrote:
| 
| I can't boot Debian the right way.  I use loadlin.exe to boot, thus I
| copy my kernel images to C:\ so that loadlin can find them.  This has
| worked fine for me with RH6.1 (custom kernel) and RH7.0 (stock
| kernel).  I copied my Debian kernel to C:\, but loadlin tells me it's
| not a kernel.  I can boot the Debian system if I use the RH kernel
| (2.2.16).
| 
| Debian Potato, 2.2.17 idepci kernel
| 
| Any ideas as to why loadlin doesn't think the debian kernel is a
| kernel?
| 
| Also, what is the proper command to upgrade the kernel?  I want to
| upgrade to the "normal" kernel (I used the idepci kernel to do a
| network install) and if I can I want to upgrade to 2.2.18.
| 
| Thanks,
| -D



Re: lilo.conf

2001-01-05 Thread David B . Harris
To quote Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
# I am working on the Debian package of lilo and am writing code for 
# auto-generating lilo.conf files.
# 
# Below is an example of the type of lilo.conf that can be generated. 
The 
# debconf asks whether you want boot or boot-menu as the boot loader, it
asks 
# what VGA mode you want, what parameters to append, and what DOS
partitions to 
# setup with the "other=" settings.  The rest is inferred from the
running 
# system.
# 
# If your lilo.conf has things that aren't in this which you think
should be in 
# debconf then please do an anonymous ftp to ivanova.coker.com.au and
upload it 
# to the incoming directory.  I'll try and make the next version do what
you 
# require.

Doesn't look to shabby :) I'm assuming that the paths to drives and
partitions are gleaned from current system settings, right? :)

Anyways, I have 'lba32' in my main lilo.conf section. For more recent
LILOs(anything after 21.6, I think - though I could be off), it'll allow
for booting kernel images past the 8.4G(1024th cylinder) mark.

Thanks for your work,

Dave



Re: X 4.x in testing

2001-01-05 Thread Nate Amsden
i remember the magic number i read was 6 weeks ...

which means i may take the plunge into testing in about 12 weeks :)

nate

Rob VanFleet wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 12:15:53PM -0700, Ray Percival wrote:
> > I just noticed the Glibc 2.2 is now in testing. As I understood it
> > this was one of the things that needed to happen before X 4.x
> > went in. Does anyone know how soon this might happen?
> > Thanks for any info.
> 
> I think that the primary criteria for a package to be moved into testing
> is that it not have any bug reports for a certain number of days.  I
> doubt that this is the case with X 4.x.
> 
> -Rob
> 
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Re: kernel 2.4.0, make-kpkg

2001-01-05 Thread Nate Amsden
now that ive learned that [EMAIL PROTECTED] kernel-package
i do

make menuconfig ; make-kpkg clean ; make-kpkg
--revision=10.0++ binary
e.g
make-kpkg --revision=10.0+ow1+ide+lm_sensors+ipsec

sometimes i do revision of 20 or higher to try to be sure apt-get wont
try to upgrade it ...

nate

Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
> 
> So, the steps then would be the same? I mean,
> 1. make menuconfig
> 2. make-kpkg clean
> 3. make-kpkg kernel_image?
> 
> Or is it necesary to do make-kpkg kernel_source,
> with subsequent dpkg -i kernel_source.deb? looping then back to
> number 1. above?
> 
> Ethan Benson wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 07:23:06PM -0500, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
> > > Kernel 2.4.0 was declared stable yesterday I believe, a couple of
> > > questions:
> > > 1. How long it usually takes before we have a kernel-source?
> > > 2. Can we use make-kpkg (kernel package) with the linux-2.4.0.tar.gz
> > > (after unpacking, of course)? If so, what would the procedure be?
> >
> > yes kernel-package works fine with 2.4.0.  you use it the same way as
> > 2.2.
> >
> > the only (minor) problem is when you remove a make-kpkg kernel image
> > /lib/modules/`uname -r` is not totally removed since the generated
> > .deb does not know about some of the extra .dep files created there.
> > this is with potato's make-kpkg, this might be fixed in later
> > versions.
> >
> > --
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> > http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/
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lilo.conf

2001-01-05 Thread Russell Coker
I am working on the Debian package of lilo and am writing code for 
auto-generating lilo.conf files.

Below is an example of the type of lilo.conf that can be generated.  The 
debconf asks whether you want boot or boot-menu as the boot loader, it asks 
what VGA mode you want, what parameters to append, and what DOS partitions to 
setup with the "other=" settings.  The rest is inferred from the running 
system.

If your lilo.conf has things that aren't in this which you think should be in 
debconf then please do an anonymous ftp to ivanova.coker.com.au and upload it 
to the incoming directory.  I'll try and make the next version do what you 
require.

boot=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc
root=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3
compact
install=/boot/boot-menu.b
delay=20
map=/boot/map
append="video=vesa:ywrap,pmipal,mtrr"
vga=791
read-only
image=/vmlinuz
label=Linux
image=/vmlinuz.old
label=old
other=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1
label=part1
table=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc

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Re: Accessing MS SQL Server from Linux

2001-01-05 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 02:15:49PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Does anyone have any experience accessing MS SQL Server from Linux?
> Either from C, Perl, or PHP? If so, what do I need in order to do
> this?

I don't have any specific experience, but I think both Perl and Python
have database access routines specific to MS SQL Server.  There's also
the ODBC route (see iODBC) which is probably the only way to write C
code on a Linux machine that will talk to an MS SQL Server over the
network (I doubt MS will port their data access libraries to any Unix).
I'd bet on Perl for the best support (there are lots of Perl/Database
hackers).

Luck,

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Re: how to remove bad inodes after fsck?

2001-01-05 Thread W. Paul Mills
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Massimo Dal Zotto) writes:


Try using "debugfs". It will allow you to remove things that
are otherwise not removable.


> Hi,
> 
> I can't remove some files left in /lost+found from fsck after a bad crash:
> 
> # ls -lR /lost+found/
> /lost+found/:
> total 1723224935
> sr-sr-sr--1 27814525884294967295 Feb 11  1943 #4624
> drwxr-xr-x2 root root 1024 Dec 29 14:43 #67082
> 
> /lost+found/#67082:
> total 1723224934
> sr-sr-sr--1 27814525884294967295 Feb 11  1943 spool
> 
> # rm -f /lost+found/\#4624 /lost+found/\#67082/spool
> rm: cannot unlink `/lost+found/#4624': Operation not permitted
> rm: cannot unlink `/lost+found/#67082/spool': Operation not permitted
> 
> # lsattr /lost+found/\#4624 /lost+found/\#67082/spool
> lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on 
> /lost+found/#4624
> lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on 
> /lost+found/#67082/spool
> 
> Any idea?
> 
> -- 
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> 


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Re: kernel 2.4.0, make-kpkg

2001-01-05 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 07:23:06PM -0500, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
> Kernel 2.4.0 was declared stable yesterday I believe, a couple of
> questions:
> 1. How long it usually takes before we have a kernel-source?

Probably not long.

> 2. Can we use make-kpkg (kernel package) with the linux-2.4.0.tar.gz
> (after unpacking, of course)? If so, what would the procedure be?

Yes, you can use make-kpkg. Read the man page and other docs. The author
of that program went to great lenghts to document that tool, and it is
pretty insulting for people not to even try reading it before asking
questions :)

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Re: runlevels/boot stuff

2001-01-05 Thread David B . Harris
To quote Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
# On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 07:37:25PM -0500, David B. Harris wrote:
# 
# > /etc/rcS.d/* : General not used manually, it's used to put the
system
# > into single-user mode right after the kernel has been started.
Usually
# > entered by typing "linux single" at the LILO prompt.
# 
# wrong, rcS.d is run once at boot, regardless of what runlevel your
# entering.  single AND multiuser mode.  (unless you enter single user
# mode with the -b switch at boot, this stops ALL initscripts from
# running which is more in line with BSD single user mode.) 

My mistake :)



Re: buggy vesa framebuffer.

2001-01-05 Thread Mircea Luca
Kent Nyberg wrote:
> 
> I was going to try LPP today so i patched the 2.2.18 kernel against that
> and it worked perfect.
> I compiled the kernel with vesa framebuffer and  edited lilo
> to:
> 
> vga=0x301
> append="console=/dev/tty2 CONSOLE=/dev/tty2"
> 
> It workes perfectly, the logo shows when i boot as it should do.
> But when i for exempel, do an 'ls' in a dir with lots of things in it..
> then
> the framebuffer gets buggish.. (dont know how to write buggy in that form.)
> Well, you know what i meen..!
> 
> At first.. ls prints out the things as it should.. but when the consol
> starts to scroll, then its only the bottom of the screen that scrolls.
> The top of the screen dont scroll at all.
> 
> I have had this problem before, and not just with the card (TNT2) i
> have now.  The i740 i had before did the same thing in vesa framebuffer.
> 
> Do any one know how to fix this?
> I realy like the lpp logo on startup, so i would like to have this
> fixed soon.
> 

Hi

I've had the same problem a wile ago with a 2.2.x kernel(I think it was
2.2.12).
I've solved it by installing fbset and making a small script and calling
it from .bashrc.I was setting the resolution at 800x600 and that worked.
I had to call it from .bashrc since it was the only way I could get it
to work after login in a vt.(there may be other ways..this one worked).
 I'm not using anymore the fb so don't know how it works now.



Re: runlevels/boot stuff

2001-01-05 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 07:37:25PM -0500, David B. Harris wrote:

> /etc/rcS.d/* : General not used manually, it's used to put the system
> into single-user mode right after the kernel has been started. Usually
> entered by typing "linux single" at the LILO prompt.

wrong, rcS.d is run once at boot, regardless of what runlevel your
entering.  single AND multiuser mode.  (unless you enter single user
mode with the -b switch at boot, this stops ALL initscripts from
running which is more in line with BSD single user mode.) 

> Runlevels 0, 1, 6, and S generally arn't modified by the user, which
> leaves runleves 2, 3, 4, and 5.

modifying S is useful if you have a script that needs to run at boot,
but not at runlevel change.  

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Re: kernel 2.4.0, make-kpkg

2001-01-05 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
So, the steps then would be the same? I mean,
1. make menuconfig
2. make-kpkg clean
3. make-kpkg kernel_image?

Or is it necesary to do make-kpkg kernel_source,
with subsequent dpkg -i kernel_source.deb? looping then back to
number 1. above?

Ethan Benson wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 07:23:06PM -0500, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
> > Kernel 2.4.0 was declared stable yesterday I believe, a couple of
> > questions:
> > 1. How long it usually takes before we have a kernel-source?
> > 2. Can we use make-kpkg (kernel package) with the linux-2.4.0.tar.gz
> > (after unpacking, of course)? If so, what would the procedure be?
> 
> yes kernel-package works fine with 2.4.0.  you use it the same way as
> 2.2.
> 
> the only (minor) problem is when you remove a make-kpkg kernel image
> /lib/modules/`uname -r` is not totally removed since the generated
> .deb does not know about some of the extra .dep files created there.
> this is with potato's make-kpkg, this might be fixed in later
> versions.
> 
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> http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/
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Re: runlevels/boot stuff

2001-01-05 Thread Defresne Sylvain
Hello,

* M.B.Midden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> hi
> 
> Im looking for some info about runlevels. Is there a howto for it? What is
> the best runlevel for a server en when should u switch ( how can you switch)
> ( i tried man runlevel ofcourse ) etc

man inittab ?

Bye
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Re: runlevels/boot stuff

2001-01-05 Thread David B . Harris
To quote "M.B.Midden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
# Im looking for some info about runlevels. Is there a howto for it?
What is
# the best runlevel for a server en when should u switch ( how can you
switch)
# ( i tried man runlevel ofcourse ) etc

I'm sort of bored, so here's a little tutorial ;)

Each runlevel has an associated directory in /etc .

/etc/rc0.d/* : Used to halt the system.
/etc/rc1.d/* : Used to put the system into single-user mode(after
another runlevel has already been reached). Similar to "Safe Mode" from
MS Windows.
/etc/rc2.d/* : Regular multi-user runlevel.
/etc/rc3.d/* : Regular multi-user runlevel.
/etc/rc4.d/* : Regular multi-user runlevel.
/etc/rc5.d/* : Regular multi-user runlevel.
/etc/rc6.d/* : Used to reboot the system.
/etc/rcS.d/* : General not used manually, it's used to put the system
into single-user mode right after the kernel has been started. Usually
entered by typing "linux single" at the LILO prompt.

Runlevels 0, 1, 6, and S generally arn't modified by the user, which
leaves runleves 2, 3, 4, and 5.

Within all of these directories are a number of symbolic links to
scripts within /etc/init.d . When the symbolic link's name start with
"S", that means the appropriate script is executed with the argument
"start". So, for instance, if there is a symbolink link
/etc/rc2.d/S20gpm -> /etc/init.d/gpm , then '/etc/init.d/gpm start' is
run.

You'll notice there's a number between the "S" and the script name.
That's the priority by which the script is run. The scripts are executed
serially, lower numbers starting first.

When a symbolic link's name starts with "K", the appropriate script is
run with the "stop" argument. The same rules about priorities are used.
When you enter a runlevel, all the scripts are called. Runlevel 6, for
instance, calls(at the very end) /etc/init.d/reboot, so the computer
reboots. When you type 'reboot' at the command line, you're basically
entering runlevel 6. By default, your Debian system enters runlevel 2 on
boot. Also by default on your Debian system, runlevels 2, 3, 4, and 5
are exactly the same. There's no difference between them until you make
them different.

Now, to answer your question :) By default, the user-defined runlevels
are all the same, so there's no "best server runlevel". However, you can
manually change the symbolic links(either using strict 'ln' and 'rm'
commands, or(prefferably) using 'update-rc.d'), so that runlevel 3, for
instance, starts all your regular Internet/Intranet services(apache,
inetd, pop3d, and friends), and you can make runlevel 2 start your
regular desktop(no apache, no identd, nothing you don't use) with X and
your font servers and everything else you regularily use.

Okay, I've wasted enough of your time ;)

For some good, in-depth(but still understandable) information, check out
the man pages for 'init' and 'update-rc.d'. You can also read the man
page for /bin/init's configuration file, 'inittab', but I find t
somewhat more difficult to understand. Oh, and if you do decide to
change which services go into which runlevels, always use 'update-rc.d'.
:)

Dave



Re: kernel 2.4.0, make-kpkg

2001-01-05 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 07:23:06PM -0500, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
> Kernel 2.4.0 was declared stable yesterday I believe, a couple of
> questions:
> 1. How long it usually takes before we have a kernel-source?
> 2. Can we use make-kpkg (kernel package) with the linux-2.4.0.tar.gz
> (after unpacking, of course)? If so, what would the procedure be?

yes kernel-package works fine with 2.4.0.  you use it the same way as
2.2.  

the only (minor) problem is when you remove a make-kpkg kernel image
/lib/modules/`uname -r` is not totally removed since the generated
.deb does not know about some of the extra .dep files created there.
this is with potato's make-kpkg, this might be fixed in later
versions.  

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kernel 2.4.0, make-kpkg

2001-01-05 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
Kernel 2.4.0 was declared stable yesterday I believe, a couple of
questions:
1. How long it usually takes before we have a kernel-source?
2. Can we use make-kpkg (kernel package) with the linux-2.4.0.tar.gz
(after unpacking, of course)? If so, what would the procedure be?



Re: mkisofs

2001-01-05 Thread Debian User
What if you don't know the size, say, you are trying to burn someone's
cd to have a copy for yourself.
Peter Horton wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 11:49:10AM -0500, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
> > Hi Steve, hi all. Tried
> > dd if=/dev/scd0 of=d3.iso
> > with my deb official cd 3 (potato rev2).
> > md5sum d3.iso gives not the supposed value.
> > When I do it from xcdroast I get the right md5sum.
> > Where is the problem? Are you sure that there no options left out
> > somewhere?
>
> The ISO image read of the CD is probably a sector or two
> too long. If you know the correct size then you can just do
>
> dd if=/dev/scd0 of=d3.iso bs=2k count=
>
> HTH,
>
> P.
>
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> Software Engineer
> http://www.colonel-panic.com
> Linux 2.4.0



Parallel attached CDR - recomendations?

2001-01-05 Thread Nate Bargmann
Hello all.

I am looking for a method to archive a bunch of stuff off of a couple
different computers and since one is a laptop and one a desktop, it
seems a parallel attached CDR drive might be the answer (I'm not
enthused about Zip or Iomega drives).  I know that the kernel has
support for these devices, but I would like others' opinions on a good
drive, write reliability, etc.  Speed is secondary at this point and a 2
or 4x write speed would be more than adequate.  Perhaps such beasts
don't exist and I'm just imagining things.  Right now I'm running Potato
on both machines with kernel 2.2.14 on one and 2.2.15 on the other (been
too lazy to upgrade) if that makes a difference.

Thanks!

- Nate >>

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runlevels/boot stuff

2001-01-05 Thread M.B.Midden
hi

Im looking for some info about runlevels. Is there a howto for it? What is
the best runlevel for a server en when should u switch ( how can you switch)
( i tried man runlevel ofcourse ) etc

thanks

dunki



Re: help debugging a compiler error (cpp)

2001-01-05 Thread Tom Marshall
> And mine...
> 
> fennywood:/usr/src# update-alternatives --display cc
> cc - status is auto.
>  link currently points to /usr/bin/gcc
> /usr/bin/gcc - priority 20
>  slave cc.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/gcc.1.gz
> Current `best' version is /usr/bin/gcc.   
>  
>  
> > cc is pointing at gcc.  I'm suspecting that on yours it is somehow pointing
> > t cc1 which doesn't appear to exist on you system.  If you do (again as
> > root):
> > update-alternatives --config cc
> > you should be able to redirect the cc symlink to something that exists.
> 
> I have no idea where it gets the idea there's a cc1 somewhere... 

I'm certainly not a gcc expert, but I believe cc1 is the "internal"
executable for the compiler.  You should have one if your gcc is installed
properly, but it won't be in your $PATH:

$ locate cc1
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.2/cc1
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.2/cc1plus

Having said that, I don't really know what your problem is.  Check to see
that your cc1 does indeed exist.  It's part of the "gcc" package:

$ dpkg -S /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.2/cc1
gcc: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.2/cc1



Re: help debugging a compiler error (cpp)

2001-01-05 Thread Chris Gray
> Jonathan Markevich writes:

jm> And mine...

jm> fennywood:/usr/src# update-alternatives --display cc
jm> cc - status is auto.
jm>  link currently points to /usr/bin/gcc
jm> /usr/bin/gcc - priority 20
jm>  slave cc.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/gcc.1.gz
jm> Current est' version is /usr/bin/gcc.  
  
jm> I have no idea where it gets the idea there's a cc1 somewhere... 

Because there should be a cc1 somewhere (mine's at
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.2/cc1).  gcc stands for GNU Compiler
Collection; there's a lot more programs in there than just a
compiler.  cc1 is the name of the compiler IIRC.  Anyway, if it can't
be found, you probably ought to reinstall gcc.

Cheers,
Chris

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Re: Debian and Pentium 4

2001-01-05 Thread D-Man

www.linux.com/hardware/newsitem.phtml?sid=26&aid=11457

Very interesting article.  Shows why working together and free updates
are important to quality systems.

-D

On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 12:37:39PM -0700, Ray Percival wrote:
| I can't get to linux.com just now to find the article but basically
| it is Microshaft's fault. It seems that had Intel used the same
| versioning for cpuid that they have used up untill now it would
| have broken NT/2000 in a very bad way. (All the details are in
| the linux.com article I can't seem to get to right now) In any case
| Intel hacked the P4 to not break winders but they broke everything
| else in the meantime. This is one of the reasons why I will only
| use AMB for x86 boxen. When I can find the link I'll post it.



Re: help debugging a compiler error (cpp)

2001-01-05 Thread D-Man
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 01:02:01PM -0500, Jonathan Markevich wrote:
| 
| ---
| bash-2.03$ make
| rm -f nv.o os-interface.o os-registry.o Module-linux NVdriver
| cc -c -Wall -Wunknown-pragmas -Wno-multichar -O  -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE
| -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -DUNIX -DLINUX -DNV4_HW -DNTRM -DRM20 -D_X86_=1
| -Di386=1 -D_GNU_SOURCE -DRM_HEAPMGR -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES-I.
| -I/usr/src/linux/include nv.c
| cpp: -lang-c: linker input file unused since linking not done
| cc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1': No such file or directory
| make: *** [nv.o] Error 1
| ---
| 
| Does anyone know what I need installed here?  Thanks.

I don't know what you need for a debian system, but the Solaris
system's in the lab have cc1.  It is part of Sun's C++ compiler.

-D



Re: help debugging a compiler error (cpp)

2001-01-05 Thread Defresne Sylvain
Hello

* Jonathan Markevich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 05:08:01PM -0500, Mike wrote:
> 
> > > bash-2.03$ make
> > > rm -f nv.o os-interface.o os-registry.o Module-linux NVdriver
> > > cc -c -Wall -Wunknown-pragmas -Wno-multichar -O  -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE
> > > -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -DUNIX -DLINUX -DNV4_HW -DNTRM -DRM20 -D_X86_=1
> > > -Di386=1 -D_GNU_SOURCE -DRM_HEAPMGR -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES-I.
> > > -I/usr/src/linux/include nv.c
> > > cpp: -lang-c: linker input file unused since linking not done
> > > cc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1': No such file or directory
> > > make: *** [nv.o] Error 1
> > > ---

 [ snip ]

> I have no idea where it gets the idea there's a cc1 somewhere... 

In fact cc1 is one of the program called by gcc. Actually, gcc
call the following programs :

* cpp : c preprocessor
* cc1 : true compilator
* as  : assembler
* ld  : linker

So cc1 is part of the gcc package :

$ dlocate cc1
gcc: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.2/cc1
g++: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.2/cc1plus

There should be a problem with your installation of gcc like
the gcc output is indicating.

Bye
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Re: save email to floppy

2001-01-05 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
Jon,

it worked fine now! Thank you again for the help!!

Marcelo


On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 04:59:05PM -0600, Jon Pennington wrote:
> Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
> > 
> > Thanks for the answer!
> > I followed your instructions, but mutt aks me for a mailbox in order
> > to save the message. I created it in the floppy. The problem is with the
> > attached file. It appears in the mailbox too, but it is a M$ .doc documet.
> > How can I save it as a *.doc file?
> 
> You'll have to use `v' to look at the attachments, then `s' to save the
> attachment as a file on the floppy.  Simply pressing `s' from inside the
> message will save the /entire/ message /including/ the file attachment.
> 
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Re: KDE2 packages not showing up

2001-01-05 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 05:01:53PM -0600, Charles Lewis wrote:
> My sources.list is:
> deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free
   ^
> deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib
 

You do know that woody != unstable, right?

I don't know if KDE is in woody now (wody is "testing" now). It was in 
unstable last time I checked (yesterday).

J.

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KDE2 packages not showing up

2001-01-05 Thread Charles Lewis
My sources.list is:
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib

Anyone have any ideas why KDE packages (i.e. kdebase,konqueror,etc) 
are not showing up?

Charles Lewis
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: save email to floppy

2001-01-05 Thread Jon Pennington
Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the answer!
> I followed your instructions, but mutt aks me for a mailbox in order
> to save the message. I created it in the floppy. The problem is with the
> attached file. It appears in the mailbox too, but it is a M$ .doc documet.
> How can I save it as a *.doc file?

You'll have to use `v' to look at the attachments, then `s' to save the
attachment as a file on the floppy.  Simply pressing `s' from inside the
message will save the /entire/ message /including/ the file attachment.

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Re: mkisofs

2001-01-05 Thread Peter Horton
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 11:49:10AM -0500, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
> Hi Steve, hi all. Tried
> dd if=/dev/scd0 of=d3.iso
> with my deb official cd 3 (potato rev2). 
> md5sum d3.iso gives not the supposed value.
> When I do it from xcdroast I get the right md5sum.
> Where is the problem? Are you sure that there no options left out
> somewhere?

The ISO image read of the CD is probably a sector or two
too long. If you know the correct size then you can just do

dd if=/dev/scd0 of=d3.iso bs=2k count=

HTH,

P.

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Software Engineer
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Linux 2.4.0



Re: mouse configuration

2001-01-05 Thread Carel Fellinger
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 04:26:42PM -0500, Mithras wrote:
> My mouse has been working fine, but perhaps something more subtle
> could be wrong.  Learning something new's always valuable.

Yes, it is only working because your errors zero'd out:)


> On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Carel Fellinger wrote:
... 
> > This doesn't sound right! (maybe it's just me failing to understand you)
> > You should not touch /dev/gpmdata, let alone rename it.  Let me recap:
> > 
> > In XF86Config you should use:
> > 
> >Protocol"whatever suits your mouse"
> >Device  "/dev/mouse"
> 
> Currently I have:
> 
>Protocol   "Microsoft"
>Device "/dev/ttyS0"

If it works, fine; however X and gpm tent to give raise to problems
when both try to read the mouse. IIRQ this applies only to busmouse,
like PS/2, but it's good to be prepared. So to be on the safe side
you better do as adviced:)  Besides, if you ever deside to replace
the mouse then you'll only have to change this symlink to have it
working again (yeah right:)

For busmouse the workaround is to use gpm in `repeater' mode, and have
gpm read the mouse all the time, writing what it reads to /dev/gpmdata
for other programs (like X) to read.  By default gpm will translate
the raw mouse data to the `msc' protocol before writing it out to
/dev/gpmdata.  This behaviour is triggered by the `-R' or `--raw'
option.  If you don't specify a protocol, or an empty protocol, then
`msc' is used, but you're normally better of using `raw' as protocol
as this leaves all the mouse data as is.  If you setup gpm to do its
repeating thingy, make sure that gpm is the *only* program reading the
mouse directly!  Have other programs read /dev/gpmdata instead.  But
be advised to let those other programs read from /dev/mouse and
symlink /dev/gpmdata to /dev/mouse.  The nice thing about using the
/dev/mouse symlink and have gpm repeat in `raw' mode is, that you
don't have to reconfigure those other programs whenever you decide to
dump gpm (or the repeater mode).  Just dump gmp and adjust the symlink
/dev/ttyS0 to /dev/mouse and your done!


If you don't have a busmouse (like /dev/ttyS0) then you don't really
need this repeater stuff. Simply commenting the `raw=' line out in
/etc/gpm.conf and the repeater stops: no /dev/gpmdata, and X needs to
read from /dev/ttS0 it self.  Be advised, however, to still let X read
from /dev/mouse, and symlink /dev/ttS0 to /dev/mouse.


> I haven't used anything like the repeat_type or append settings you
> have there.  Gpm's device is /dev/ttyS0, and the type is ms.
> repeat_type is ''.

So repeating is on, and translated into `msc' protocol.

> Still, these settings did not work until I moved /dev/gpmdata.  The

I bet that after restartin gpm (eg. after a reboot) you'll have
problems again.  I think gpm creates this file each time it's running,
so you'll have to remove it each time.  Don't.  Either setup gpm to do
no repeating or do it properly.

> mouse did not move, yet I'd set the pointer to use /dev/ttyS0.  I
> remembered reading here or on the web that someone else couldn't get
> their mouse to work on X until they removed gpmdata, so I thought I'd
> try that.  I'd read it was a named pipe that the gpm process populated
> with mouse input so X could get its data from it, so I figured it
> wouldn't hurt anything in the console if I took it away.  Maybe X was

Taking it away was the error that evened out the previous errors:)
In effect it prohibited gpm from doing its repeating thing, so it
stopped reading from /dev/ttS0 and X no longer had a conflict on
who was reading the mouse:)  Oh and yes, gpm is smart enough to
know when someone else (X) controls a virtual console, so it starts
reading at the moment you switch back to a text oriented console.


> This might not be ideal, but I'm a practical guy.

To me this is not practical, but making a mess out of your system.
A few of those and debugging odd behaviour gets very complicated,
better leave that to the windows world:)

-- 
groetjes, carel



Re: font-lock, xemacs, latex

2001-01-05 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
:: Johann Spies writes:

> On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 03:19:51PM -0500, Peter S Galbraith wrote:
>> 
>> Giulio Morgan wrote:

>> > don't know why this was necessary, I imagine it may be from
>> > trying to run both xemacs and fsf emacs.
>> 
>> I don't think so.  They are both identical (and both a bit
>> outdated).

> One difference that I found was that xemacs does not like
> (global-font-lock-mode t)

> which emacs needs for proper font-locking.  My solution is to put it
> as the last line in .emacs

This has worked for me for a long time:

;; Set var. to know if we are running XEmacs
;;
(defvar gnu-emacs (string-match "GNU" emacs-version))
(defvar running-xemacs (string-match "XEmacs\\|Lucid" emacs-version))


;; Then use running-xemacs whenever you need to configure
;; stuff for Emacs/XEmacs differently

(cond ((not running-xemacs)
code-for-emacs-only ))

(cond (running-xemacs
   code-for-xemacs-only ))


So I havee my (global-font-lock-mode t) line inside a
(cond (not running-xemacs) ... )

I think there was also a wy to use a .xemacs file, but I don't
remember if XEmacs will read it automatically or not.

J.


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Re: help debugging a compiler error (cpp)

2001-01-05 Thread Jonathan Markevich
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 05:08:01PM -0500, Mike wrote:

> > bash-2.03$ make
> > rm -f nv.o os-interface.o os-registry.o Module-linux NVdriver
> > cc -c -Wall -Wunknown-pragmas -Wno-multichar -O  -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE
> > -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -DUNIX -DLINUX -DNV4_HW -DNTRM -DRM20 -D_X86_=1
> > -Di386=1 -D_GNU_SOURCE -DRM_HEAPMGR -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES-I.
> > -I/usr/src/linux/include nv.c
> > cpp: -lang-c: linker input file unused since linking not done
> > cc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1': No such file or directory
> > make: *** [nv.o] Error 1
> > ---
> > 
> > Does anyone know what I need installed here?  Thanks.
> 
> As root, do:
> update-alternatives --display cc
> and check what cc is pointing at.  On my system:
> 
> hal9000:~# update-alternatives --display cc
> cc - status is auto.
>  link currently points to /usr/bin/gcc
> /usr/bin/gcc - priority 20
>  slave cc.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/gcc.1.gz
> Current best' version is /usr/bin/gcc.

And mine...

fennywood:/usr/src# update-alternatives --display cc
cc - status is auto.
 link currently points to /usr/bin/gcc
/usr/bin/gcc - priority 20
 slave cc.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/gcc.1.gz
Current est' version is /usr/bin/gcc.  
  
 
> cc is pointing at gcc.  I'm suspecting that on yours it is somehow pointing
> t cc1 which doesn't appear to exist on you system.  If you do (again as
> root):
> update-alternatives --config cc
> you should be able to redirect the cc symlink to something that exists.

I have no idea where it gets the idea there's a cc1 somewhere... 

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Re: save email to floppy

2001-01-05 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
Thanks for the answer!
I followed your instructions, but mutt aks me for a mailbox in order 
to save the message. I created it in the floppy. The problem is with the 
attached file. It appears in the mailbox too, but it is a M$ .doc documet. 
How can I save it as a *.doc file?

Thanks in advance for the help!

Marcelo


On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 11:17:55PM +0100, Martin W?rtele wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 08:06:57PM -0200, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > I use mutt as UMA. I need to save to a floppy a saved email and its 
> > attached 
> > file. How can I do this?
> 
> mount the floppy, run mutt, hit >s< to save and enter
> /floppy// prior to filename.
> 
> hth martin
> 
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Re: kernel 2.4 - modutils

2001-01-05 Thread Phillip Deackes
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 17:07:28 -0500
"Noah L. Meyerhans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 03:54:00PM -0600, Rob VanFleet wrote:

> Yes, apt-get source -b modutils will do it (assuming unstable has an
> deb-src line in /etc/apt/sources.list).

I just changed my /etc/apt/sources.list to point to unstable (as opposed
to Woody which I normally use) and did apt-get install modutils. I got the
new version and no other packages. Modules from 2.4.0 now install
correctly.

-- 
Phillip Deackes
Using Storm Linux 2000



Re: 2.4 kernel rescue disk?

2001-01-05 Thread Stephan Hachinger
Hello!

Hmm, I think the easiest way to create a boot floppy is to take an existing
bootfloppy with the syslinux loader on it (for example a debian rescue),
then compiling a kernel with the necessary drivers and patches (but no
modules!!!; also be sure that you have compiled in some things syslinux
requires - see readme files on the boot floppy), and putting this kernel on
the disk instead of the default kernel. I don't know if this works with the
2.4 ones, but it has worked with 2.2 and 2.0, so I don't think there will be
any problems...

Regards,

Stephan Hachinger

- Original Message -
From: "Jon Pennington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mark Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: 2.4 kernel rescue disk?


> Mark Phillips wrote:
> >
> > Is there any way I can create my own custom rescue disk?  Is there a
> > package for doing this?  Is there a HOWTO?
>
> I'm pretty new to this list, but this has come up a lot.  Have a look
> at:
>
>  # man make-kpkg
>  # man mkboot
>
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Re: ALSA with AWE64: help

2001-01-05 Thread Stephan Hachinger
Hello!

I think it isn't really a problem which has something to do with your alsa
config, but I think that the module for awe32 simply doesn't detect the i/o
port of your awe unit, for example because your isapnp conf has been messed
up. I suggest to you looking at your isapnp.conf and the module parameters
at modconf first, and if this doesn't help setting up alsa because it took a
while for me to setup my alsa properly. Or, if you haven't compiled your awe
driver as a module, I'd try this. If you cannot find any error in your
current configuration and want to give alsa a try, you can send me a mail
and I'll do my best to give you a description of how to set up alsa (don't
know it exactly at the moment- I'll have to take a look at my machine ;)).

Regards,

Stephan Hachinger

> - Original Message -
> From: "Maciej Kalisiak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "debian-user mailing list" 
> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 6:57 PM
> Subject: ALSA with AWE64: help
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've had sound and MIDI working great on my box for the longest time
with
> just
> > the plain, non-alsa sound stuff (the OSS drivers?), and then I installed
a
> > package which also required the alsa-base package.  Since then I haven't
> been
> > able to use MIDI, and I suspect the digital audio I get is still using
the
> old
> > drivers, and ALSA is simply busted on my box.
> >
> > So are there any docs somewhere on how to properly install a complete
ALSA
> > setup?
> >
> > BTW, I have a AWE64 value sound card (which, again, worked completely
> prior to
> > alsa-base).
> >
> > I think ALSA is busted here because I get stuff like this on bootup:
> >
> >   AWE32: not detected
> >   Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
> >   SB 4.16 detected OK (220)
> >
> > or when I finish running alsaconf:
> >
> >   Loading driver:
> >   Starting ALSA sound driver (version none): no driver installed.
> >   Setting the PCM volume to 100% and the Master output volume to 50%
> >   The ALSA sound driver was not detected in this system.
> >   Could not initialize the mixer, the card was probably
> >   not detected correctly.
> >
> > I suspect that I might need to install alsadriver (which is one of the
> > alsa-modules-* debs), but then I can't use the kernel I built myself
> (which
> > does have AWE and sound support, as it works without ALSA), or rather
I'm
> > weary of having apt-get mess around with my kernel bits.
> >
> > --
> > Maciej Kalisiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.dgp.toronto.edu/~mac
> >
> >
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logrotate bad count...

2001-01-05 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
Hi!

Each time I boot my potato box I receive the following email:


/etc/cron.daily/logrotate:
error: /etc/logrotate.conf:6 bad rotation count'2 '
run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/logrotate exited with return code 1


My /etc/logrotate.conf file is, up to line 6, the following:

# see "man logrotate" for details
# rotate log files weekly
weekly

# keep 2 weeks worth of backlogs
rotate 2


I really don't understand what is going wrong with this configuration. 
Any help will be very welcome!

Thanks in advance!

Marcelo



Re: save email to floppy

2001-01-05 Thread Martin Würtele
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 08:06:57PM -0200, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I use mutt as UMA. I need to save to a floppy a saved email and its attached 
> file. How can I do this?

mount the floppy, run mutt, hit >s< to save and enter
/floppy// prior to filename.

hth martin

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Re: Need help with XFree86

2001-01-05 Thread Russ Cook
Thanks for the reply.  I should have mentioned that I already
have agpgart.o loaded successfully.  I don't believe that is
the problem.

Thanks again,
Russ

On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Pascal Hos wrote:

> On Friday 05 January 2001 03:46 pm, Russ Cook wrote:
> 
> > > Howdy!  My wife bought me a new computer for Christmas, an
> > E-machine with the i810 chipset.  I was able to get X11 working
> > under TurboLinux (the CD came with the LAN card I bought), but I'm
> > having difficulty with Debian.  Attached are the XF86Config file
> > and the XFree86 log file. Any help would be most appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks much,
> > Russ
> 
> Check out the following page
> 
> http://www.xfree86.org/4.0.2/Status17.html#17
> 
> Pascal Hos
> -- 
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> 
> 



Re: KDE 2.2

2001-01-05 Thread David B . Harris
To quote [EMAIL PROTECTED],
# 
# I'm running 2.2r2.  I downloaded the KDE deb's from sourceforge.  When
I
# try to install I get a failed instalation from libqt2.2 saying it
needs a
# newer version.Well the libqt that I got was in the same directory
from
# sourceforge.  So I went to get the newest qt from troll's ftp site. 
Just
# my luck, no deb's.  I down loaded the tarball, but even though I set
the
# environment in the .profile under root it still won't install because
it
# can't find the path.  Does any one have, or can send me a link to the
# newest qt in deb form, or at least tell me what I'm doing wrong.
# 
# Please email me directly,  My email server is down, so I'm using this
one
# temporarily.

Check out http://kde.tdyc.com , they have Potato KDE2 debs, and I'd bet
they've got QT debs to go along with it.

Dave



Re: help debugging a compiler error (cpp)

2001-01-05 Thread Mike
Jonathan Markevich wrote:
> 
> ---
> bash-2.03$ make
> rm -f nv.o os-interface.o os-registry.o Module-linux NVdriver
> cc -c -Wall -Wunknown-pragmas -Wno-multichar -O  -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE
> -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -DUNIX -DLINUX -DNV4_HW -DNTRM -DRM20 -D_X86_=1
> -Di386=1 -D_GNU_SOURCE -DRM_HEAPMGR -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES-I.
> -I/usr/src/linux/include nv.c
> cpp: -lang-c: linker input file unused since linking not done
> cc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1': No such file or directory
> make: *** [nv.o] Error 1
> ---
> 
> Does anyone know what I need installed here?  Thanks.

As root, do:
update-alternatives --display cc
and check what cc is pointing at.  On my system:

hal9000:~# update-alternatives --display cc
cc - status is auto.
 link currently points to /usr/bin/gcc
/usr/bin/gcc - priority 20
 slave cc.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/gcc.1.gz
Current best' version is /usr/bin/gcc.

cc is pointing at gcc.  I'm suspecting that on yours it is somehow pointing
t cc1 which doesn't appear to exist on you system.  If you do (again as
root):
update-alternatives --config cc
you should be able to redirect the cc symlink to something that exists.
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  | everything is of great understanding,
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Re: kernel 2.4 - modutils

2001-01-05 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 03:54:00PM -0600, Rob VanFleet wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 04:42:20PM -0500, Alec Smith wrote:
> > You need to be using at least modutils 2.3.23 or 2.3.24 for the new kernel
> > to work correctly... Ultimately, you'll want to be using modutils 2.4.0
> > once its out.
> 
> Ugh, version in testing is 2.3.11-13.1.  Would it be possible to get the
> source packages for modutils from unstable and just recompile them (with
> my current 2.2.18 kernel that is)?
> 

Yes, apt-get source -b modutils will do it (assuming unstable has an
deb-src line in /etc/apt/sources.list).

Let me warn you about something that bit me twice in just over a week.
If you don't have bison and flex installed (there may be more for all I
know) the modutils .deb will happily build itself but it won't contain
certain crucial programs like /sbin/genksyms.  This will result in bad
things happening.  It annoyed me to such a great degree that I actually
looked in to what it would take to bolt build-dependencies on to
apt-get...but that's another story.

noah

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save email to floppy

2001-01-05 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
Hi!

I use mutt as UMA. I need to save to a floppy a saved email and its attached 
file. How can I do this?
Thanks ins advance!
Marcelo



Re: How send mail one user to another/One account?

2001-01-05 Thread Mike
Jonathan Gift wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm having trouble with my ISP, so copies to me personally appreciated if
> I have to jump off the list again.
> 
> I have one  account with my ISP but have set up two users. Now my SO can
> send me mail from MS Outlook, but I can't sem to send out without it
> bouncing straight to me in folder with a can't find sort of msgs.
> 
> Details:
> Original account [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Added [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> I'm using Mutt, Procmail and Fetchmail. There has to be a way of telling
> one of them to let [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail out of the system. It's
> obviously taking it for local mail and when it can't find the kgift
> acount, because tere is none, I get an error.

In this case, it's Exim that's at fault.  You need to tell exim the
wanadoo.fr is *not* the local system.  I had this same problem for quite
some time.  So, in your /etc/exim.conf file look for the following sections
and do something sorta kinda similar.

--- Begin exim.conf sections ---
# Specify the domain you want to be added to all unqualified addresses
# here. Unqualified addresses are accepted only from local callers by
# default. See the receiver_unqualified_{hosts,nets} options if you want
# to permit unqualified addresses from remote sources. If this option is
# not set, the primary_hostname value is used for qualification.

# Had to comment this line out to get things to work.
#qualify_domain = earthlink.net
qualify_domain = localnet.here

# Specify your local domains as a colon-separated list here. If this option
# is not set (i.e. not mentioned in the configuration file), the
# qualify_recipient value is used as the only local domain. If you do not want
# to do any local deliveries, uncomment the following line, but do not supply
# any data for it. This sets local_domains to an empty string, which is not
# the same as not mentioning it at all. An empty string specifies that there
# are no local domains; not setting it at all causes the default value (the
# setting of qualify_recipient) to be used.

local_domains = localhost:localnet.here
--- End exim.conf sections ---

The localnet.here thing is what exim thinks my domain name is.  And with
something like this, I can still do local mail between users, and still get
mail out to others on my ISP.
-- 
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  | everything is of great understanding,
'91 GS500E| for belief in one false principle is the
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Re: Need help with XFree86

2001-01-05 Thread Pascal Hos
On Friday 05 January 2001 03:46 pm, Russ Cook wrote:

> > Howdy!  My wife bought me a new computer for Christmas, an
> E-machine with the i810 chipset.  I was able to get X11 working
> under TurboLinux (the CD came with the LAN card I bought), but I'm
> having difficulty with Debian.  Attached are the XF86Config file
> and the XFree86 log file. Any help would be most appreciated.
>
> Thanks much,
>   Russ

Check out the following page

http://www.xfree86.org/4.0.2/Status17.html#17

Pascal Hos
-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: kernel 2.4 - modutils

2001-01-05 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 04:42:20PM -0500, Alec Smith wrote:
> You need to be using at least modutils 2.3.23 or 2.3.24 for the new kernel
> to work correctly... Ultimately, you'll want to be using modutils 2.4.0
> once its out.

Ugh, version in testing is 2.3.11-13.1.  Would it be possible to get the
source packages for modutils from unstable and just recompile them (with
my current 2.2.18 kernel that is)?

-Rob



Re: Need help with XFree86

2001-01-05 Thread David B . Harris
To quote Russ Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
# Howdy!  My wife bought me a new computer for Christmas, an E-machine
# with the i810 chipset.  I was able to get X11 working under TurboLinux
# (the CD came with the LAN card I bought), but I'm having difficulty
# with Debian.  Attached are the XF86Config file and the XFree86 log
file.
# Any help would be most appreciated.

I can't help you, but I'd like to thank you for taking the time to make
logs and attach them :) May not seem like much trouble, but it's done
far too seldomly.

Dave



Re: marks in syslog

2001-01-05 Thread David B . Harris
To quote "Marco C ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
# Hi buddies!
# Why sometimes in my logs magically appears the line
# date,time host -- MARK --
# What does this MARK mean?
# Thanks in advance, marco

For the life of me, I can't remember what they mean. But I'm pretty sure
it's a command flag - 'man syslogd' shoud tell you, I think.

Dave



Re: marks in syslog

2001-01-05 Thread Remco van de Meent
Marco C . wrote:
> Why sometimes in my logs magically appears the line date,time host --
> MARK -- What does this MARK mean?

Have a look at the syslogd(8) manual page, around line 100:

 -m interval
The syslogd logs a mark timestamp  regularly.  The default interval
between two -- MARK -- lines is 20 minutes.  This can be changed
with this option. Setting the interval to zero turns it off
entirely.


Cheers,
Remco.



Re: Upgrading from 2.0

2001-01-05 Thread Carel Fellinger
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 03:42:28PM +0100, Casper Gielen wrote:
> I'm upgrading a Debian 2.0 system. According to the manual I
> downloaded and installed the static versions of dpkg and apt.
> When I do a apt-get update apt is unable to connect to the
> download sites. I'm double-checked the /etc/apt/sources.list
> against those of other machines and I'm sure it is correct.
> I tried a few mirrors to be sure, but somehow apt is unable
> to connect to the web.

apt won't:) You'll have to start the internet connection by hand
(use the command pon) or have it automatic upon request (use the
package diald).

-- 
groetjes, carel



Need help with XFree86

2001-01-05 Thread Russ Cook
Howdy!  My wife bought me a new computer for Christmas, an E-machine
with the i810 chipset.  I was able to get X11 working under TurboLinux
(the CD came with the LAN card I bought), but I'm having difficulty
with Debian.  Attached are the XF86Config file and the XFree86 log file.
Any help would be most appreciated.

Thanks much,
Russ

XFree86 Version 4.0.2 (RC3) / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6400)
Release Date: 14 December 2000
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: Linux 2.2.18pre15 i686 [ELF] 
Module Loader present
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Fri Jan  5 15:07:16 2001
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4"
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (??) unknown.
(==) ServerLayout "My Layout"
(**) |-->Screen "My Screen" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Samtron"
(**) |   |-->Device "i810"
(**) |-->Input Device "Generic Keyboard"
(**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
(**) XKB: rules: "xfree86"
(**) Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
(**) XKB: model: "pc104"
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "us"
(**) XKB: layout: "us"
(**) |-->Input Device "Generic Mouse"
(WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(**) FontPath set to 
"unix/:7100,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
(==) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
(--) using VT number 7

(WW) Cannot open APM
(II) Module ABI versions:
XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1
XFree86 Video Driver: 0.3
XFree86 XInput driver : 0.1
XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1
XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.2
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: "bitmap"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.3
(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x8001700c, mode1Res1 = 0x8000
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,7120 card 109f,3151 rev 03 class 06,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 8086,7121 card 8086,7121 rev 03 class 03,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1e:0: chip 8086,2418 card , rev 02 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:1f:0: chip 8086,2410 card , rev 02 class 06,01,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:1f:1: chip 8086,2411 card 8086,2411 rev 02 class 01,01,80 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1f:2: chip 8086,2412 card 8086,2412 rev 02 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1f:5: chip 8086,2415 card 109f,3151 rev 02 class 04,01,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 01:0d:0: chip 14f1,2013 card 155d,8850 rev 01 class 07,80,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 01:0e:0: chip 1317,0985 card 1317,0574 rev 11 class 02,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) LoadModule: "scanpci"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Module scanpci: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.3
(II) UnloadModule: "scanpci"
(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (-1,0,0), BCTRL: 0x00 (VGA_EN is cleared)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
[0] -1  0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1  0x - 0x (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1  0x - 0x (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:30:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x04 (VGA_EN is cleared)
(II) Bus 1 I/O range:
[0] -1  0x3000 - 0x30ff (0x100) IX[B]
[1] -1  0x3400 - 0x34ff (0x100) IX[B]
[2] -1  0x3800 - 0x38ff (0x100) IX[B]
[3] -1  0x3c00 - 0x3cff (0x100) IX[B]
(II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1  0xf410 - 0xf41f (0x10) MX[B]
(II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range:
(II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:31:0), (0,-1,0), BCTRL: 0x00 (VGA_EN is cleared)
(II) Bus -1 I/O range:
(II) Bus -1 non-prefetchable memory range:
(II) Bus -1 prefetchable memory range:
(--) PCI:*(0:1:0) Intel i810 rev 3, Mem @ 0xf800/26, 0xf400/19
(II

KDE 2.2

2001-01-05 Thread waynes

I'm running 2.2r2.  I downloaded the KDE deb's from sourceforge.  When I
try to install I get a failed instalation from libqt2.2 saying it needs a
newer version.  Well the libqt that I got was in the same directory from
sourceforge.  So I went to get the newest qt from troll's ftp site.  Just
my luck, no deb's.  I down loaded the tarball, but even though I set the
environment in the .profile under root it still won't install because it
can't find the path.  Does any one have, or can send me a link to the
newest qt in deb form, or at least tell me what I'm doing wrong.

Please email me directly,  My email server is down, so I'm using this one
temporarily.

Thanks

Wayne

Go to http://www.iexaltmail.com to get your Free email



kernel 2.4 - modutils

2001-01-05 Thread Rob VanFleet
If I'm running testing (upgraded from Potato, so none of the pre-testing
woody stuff), do I need an updated modutils for kernel 2.4 to work
correctly?

-Rob



marks in syslog

2001-01-05 Thread Marco C .
Hi buddies!
Why sometimes in my logs magically appears the line
date,time host -- MARK --
What does this MARK mean?
Thanks in advance, marco

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Re: mouse configuration

2001-01-05 Thread Mithras
My mouse has been working fine, but perhaps something more subtle
could be wrong.  Learning something new's always valuable.

On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Carel Fellinger wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 10:38:20AM -0500, Mithras wrote:
> ...
> > Thanks to everyone that replied!  The key for me was hearing about
> > "gpm".  I can't recall all the combinations I tried last night, but I
> > was successful setting up the mouse to work with both X and the
> > console.  After configuring gpm for the console, I changed the Pointer
> > declaration in XF86Config to use ttyS0, but I had to rename
> > /dev/gpmdata for X to listen to the serial port.
> 
> This doesn't sound right! (maybe it's just me failing to understand you)
> You should not touch /dev/gpmdata, let alone rename it.  Let me recap:
> 
> In XF86Config you should use:
> 
>Protocol"whatever suits your mouse"
>Device  "/dev/mouse"

Currently I have:

   Protocol "Microsoft"
   Device   "/dev/ttyS0"

> If yoy don't plan to use gpm make sure that:
>
>$ ls -l /dev/mouse
>lrwxrwxrwx1 root root7 Aug 16 21:07 /dev/mouse -> ttyS0
> 
> If you do use gpm make sure that:
> 
>$ ls -l /dev/mouse
>lrwxrwxrwx1 root root7 Aug 16 21:07 /dev/mouse -> gpmdata

I can't remember which device I left /dev/mouse symlinked to.  Since
I'm using gpm under console and /dev/ttyS0 under X, it hasn't
mattered.  But hey, I could change X to use /dev/mouse and symlink
mouse to ttyS0, for consistency's sake.

> and setup gpm to use:
>device=/dev/ttyS0
>type=whatever-suits-your-mouse
>repeat_type=raw
>append="-l \"a-zA-Z0-9_.:~/\300-\326\330-\366\370-\377\""

I haven't used anything like the repeat_type or append settings you
have there.  Gpm's device is /dev/ttyS0, and the type is ms.
repeat_type is ''.

Still, these settings did not work until I moved /dev/gpmdata.  The
mouse did not move, yet I'd set the pointer to use /dev/ttyS0.  I
remembered reading here or on the web that someone else couldn't get
their mouse to work on X until they removed gpmdata, so I thought I'd
try that.  I'd read it was a named pipe that the gpm process populated
with mouse input so X could get its data from it, so I figured it
wouldn't hurt anything in the console if I took it away.  Maybe X was
treating /dev/gpmdata preferentially in spite of XF86Config.

But I didn't want to screw myself if I found later that I needed
/dev/gpmdata, so I moved it to /dev/gpmdata.gone.  Once I did this,
and started X, the mouse worked.

This might not be ideal, but I'm a practical guy.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://www.dhp.com/~mithras
716-586-0020 work, 716-256-2484 home, 716-233-3159 cell
174 Henrietta St. #2 / Rochester, NY 14620




Re: Network Throughput

2001-01-05 Thread David Benfell
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 03:35:59PM +0100, Philipp Schulte wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 03:24:49PM +0100, Sebastiaan wrote: 
> 
> > Just curious: when you write an article in which you use MegaBytes and
> > MegaBits a lot, how do you distinguish between them?
> 
> Somewhere I have read that it is common to use Bits when talking about
> data that has to be transmitted and Bytes when talking about stored
> data.
> I assume, that everybody knows that "100Mb-network" means we are
> talking about bit/sec while "100mb-file" means megabyte.
> Phil
> 
It seems sensible to use the lower case b when referring to bits and
the upper case B when referring to bytes.  This is the convention I've
observed particularly with regard to DSL performance claims.  (Though
I'd hate to have you hold me to it being consistently used.)

-- 
David Benfell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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who have seen it, as one of the finest spectacles in nature.
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Where is the pilot-link header files?

2001-01-05 Thread arthur

I can't find the pilot-link-dev package in my apt-cache.  Where are the
pilot-link header files kept?

Arthur H. Johnson II
Systems Engineer
The Linux Box
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.linuxbox.nu



Accessing MS SQL Server from Linux

2001-01-05 Thread debuser
Does anyone have any experience accessing MS SQL Server from Linux? Either
from C, Perl, or PHP? If so, what do I need in order to do this?

Thanks,

Gerry




Re: System security question

2001-01-05 Thread Marco C .
Il  5 gennaio 2001 (venerdì), alle 13:08, Nathan E Norman ha scritto:

> have a printer then don't run lpd.  If you have a printer but only
> print locally, I think you can unbind the tcp port but I'd have to
 ^^^

what does it mean? how can I do this?
and I have another question: my netstat revealed these strange ports:
tcp0  0 *:6000 *:*LISTEN  
tcp0  0 *:1024 *:*LISTEN

can anyone help me?
hi, marco

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Re: Some refreshing news

2001-01-05 Thread Felix Natter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I thought that everyone could use to hear something a bit refreshing.  I
> upgraded my motherboard and CPU last night (from a Pentium 75 to a
> Celeron 500).  The system is a dual boot system (Debian Linux, and
> Windows 95).  I have been unable to boot into Windows (lots of errors,
> graphics look horrible, and finally kills me with a fatal error), but I
> have had no problems with getting back into Linux!  I will have to
> reinstall Windows to see if I can get it working again (if they had kids
> learning games for Linux I would get rid of Windows entirely, but until
> then I am stuck with it), and after which I will have to mess around with
> a few settings in Linux (sound, and modem).  Just thought that everyone
> would be interested to hear a major success story for Linux.

create a debian boot-disk before you reinstall windows; windows will clear
the MBR (master boot record) during installation.

-- 
Felix Natter



Re: 4 Mouse buttons with gpm?

2001-01-05 Thread Carel Fellinger
On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 09:22:53PM +, Sam Vilain wrote:

...reformatted for ease of reading...
> Thanks for that, I'm definitely closer now :-).  I think I just need
> to get gpm to talk the equivalent of X's "MouseManPlusPS/2", like
> perhaps the mouse is detecting that it's being accessed in a 3
> button protocol or something and translating the buttons for me.
> Hmm.

You could try for XF86Config:Protocol"IMPS/2"
and for gpm: type=imps2

-- 
groetjes, carel



Re: mouse configuration

2001-01-05 Thread Carel Fellinger
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 10:38:20AM -0500, Mithras wrote:
...
> Thanks to everyone that replied!  The key for me was hearing about
> "gpm".  I can't recall all the combinations I tried last night, but I
> was successful setting up the mouse to work with both X and the
> console.  After configuring gpm for the console, I changed the Pointer
> declaration in XF86Config to use ttyS0, but I had to rename
> /dev/gpmdata for X to listen to the serial port.

This doesn't sound right! (maybe it's just me failing to understand you)
You should not touch /dev/gpmdata, let alone rename it.  Let me recap:

In XF86Config you should use:

   Protocol"whatever suits your mouse"
   Device  "/dev/mouse"

Now you have two options:
1) use gpm
2) do'n use gpm


If yoy don't plan to use gpm make sure that:

   $ ls -l /dev/mouse
   lrwxrwxrwx1 root root7 Aug 16 21:07 /dev/mouse -> ttyS0

If you do use gpm make sure that:

   $ ls -l /dev/mouse
   lrwxrwxrwx1 root root7 Aug 16 21:07 /dev/mouse -> gpmdata

and setup gpm to use:
   device=/dev/ttyS0
   type=whatever-suits-your-mouse
   repeat_type=raw
   append="-l \"a-zA-Z0-9_.:~/\300-\326\330-\366\370-\377\""

Be aware that gpm's `type' should correspond to XF86Config's `Protocol'.

-- 
groetjes, carel



Re: How to help out.

2001-01-05 Thread David B . Harris
To quote <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
# I am willing to donate some of my spare time to Debian if they will
have
# me.  What needs work?

Lots of things ;) I'm fairly new, but I've offered to write man pages
for some packages that don't have them(packages that I use, of course).

I imagine if you have a few favorite packages that either arn't
packaged, or have no package maintainer, I'm sure nobody would mind if
you took them over :)

Dave



Re: AGH! Hard disc faults!

2001-01-05 Thread David B . Harris
To quote Matthew Sackman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
# The hard disc is a 10Gb 7200rpm 2Mb cache Seagate that is less than 6
months
# old. I'm fairly furious that it has developed an error this quickly.

It's the nature of the beast, unfortunatly :( However, often times the
manufacturers are really quite good about it. I had an IBM DJNA(7200RPM,
14Gig, 2M cache) which died about a month after warranty(not that the
warranty even applied to me - I bought it from an OEM), and they happily
replaced it.

Dave



How to help out.

2001-01-05 Thread arthur

I am willing to donate some of my spare time to Debian if they will have
me.  What needs work?

Arthur H. Johnson II
Systems Engineer
The Linux Box
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.linuxbox.nu



Re: Debian and Pentium 4

2001-01-05 Thread Hall Stevenson
> One of our profs bought a Dell 8100 Pentium 4 for
> home use and he wants to install Linux on it.  He
> would like to install Debian, but he says that Debian
> doesn't support the Pentium 4 yet.  Is this true?

I think it will work just fine. The problem occurs when a program (or
the kernel) tries to determine what CPU is installed). On RedHat,
Mandrake, and others, during initial install, they try to find out what
CPU in there and install a "custom" kernel, optimized for that CPU vs
just using the plain, compiled for i386 CPUs.

As long as Debian's kernel is not "optimized" for a particular CPU,
he'll be okay.

Regards
Hall



Re: kernel 2.4.0-test12 and get_module_symbol

2001-01-05 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
See at
ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/

Romain Lerallut wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I'm using kernel 2.4.0-test12.
> I need to compile the drivers for my nvidia card and they call
> "get_module_symbol" and "put_module_symbol"  which I cannot find.
> 
> I did a quick search on the web but I found nothing about test12...
> 
> If anyone could tell me how I can get  a  patch or something, that would
> be very appreciated.
> (and also _please_ if you send a patch tell me exactly how to set it up,
> I'm not familiar with patching :-(  (what does the -pnum option do btw
> ???))
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Romain
> 
> --
> Come to my rescue ObiWan Kenobi, you are my only hope...
> 
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Re: Debian and Pentium 4

2001-01-05 Thread David B . Harris
To quote Philipp Schulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
# The german magazine "c't" (http://www.heise.de/ct) explitely says that
# there is no problem with Debian and the Pentium 4 on the Dell
# Dimension 8100. 
# RedHat and Suse caused some problems.

That's probably because Debian uses(at last check) 2.2.18pre kernels.

Dave



Re: AGH! Hard disc faults!

2001-01-05 Thread Matthew Sackman

I found that I had a spare 1Gb partition, and using a rescue disk managed to
copy accross what I could of the damaged disk. Unfortuantely, that's meant I've
lost some network option files and some of the run-levels directories have
vanished (/etc/rc0.d, /etc/rc6.d/ went, as did /etc/network/options and some
other files plus some i've no idea about!) so I'm trying to recreate those.
Does anyone know of a utility that can reinstall all the now missing files -
I'm not in anyway sure of what isn't there that should be.

The hard disc is a 10Gb 7200rpm 2Mb cache Seagate that is less than 6 months
old. I'm fairly furious that it has developed an error this quickly.

With thanks,

Matthew

On Thu, 4 Jan 2001 18:01:11 -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com said:

> on Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 09:56:43PM +, Matthew Sackman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
> wrote:
>  > Please help someone, and quickly!!
>  > 
>  > I have found that on my root drive (which is /dev/hdb4), I have a read
>  > fault on block 131077. This is disrupting the boot sequence, and
>  > putting a whole load of file system errors on other file systems.
>  > 
>  > I have run through with fsck and it reports a :
>  > 
>  > Error reading block 131077 (Attempt to read block from filesystem
>  > resulted in short read) while doing inode scan.
>  > 
>  > The boot up gets fairly screwed as it is having major problems in
>  > reading from the root file system. Fsck it seems can not fix it, and
>  > none of my linux books talk of any other disk repair utilities. Does
>  > anyone know what I should do?
>  
>  If you don't have comprehensive system backups, this is the time time to
>  make them.
>  
>  I'd try running a (nondestructive) badblocks test on the partition --
>  you'll likely have to boot another device, possible a floppy distro of
>  GNU/Linux.
>  
>  I tend to suspect bad hardware and toss it when I start getting disk
>  errors.  You might try repairing the issue, but if it returns, your time
>  and data are more valuable than the disk.
>  
>  -- 
>  Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/
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Re: Debian and Pentium 4

2001-01-05 Thread Ray Percival
I can't get to linux.com just now to find the article but basically
it is Microshaft's fault. It seems that had Intel used the same
versioning for cpuid that they have used up untill now it would
have broken NT/2000 in a very bad way. (All the details are in
the linux.com article I can't seem to get to right now) In any case
Intel hacked the P4 to not break winders but they broke everything
else in the meantime. This is one of the reasons why I will only
use AMB for x86 boxen. When I can find the link I'll post it.


-- Original Message --
From: Kay Nettle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 13:22:20 -0600

>One of our profs bought a Dell 8100 Pentium 4 for home use and he 
>wants to install Linux on it.  He would like to install Debian, but 
>he says that Debian doesn't support the Pentium 4 yet.  Is this true?
>
>Kay
>
>
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kernel 2.4.0-test12 and get_module_symbol

2001-01-05 Thread Romain Lerallut
Hello everyone,

I'm using kernel 2.4.0-test12.
I need to compile the drivers for my nvidia card and they call
"get_module_symbol" and "put_module_symbol"  which I cannot find.

I did a quick search on the web but I found nothing about test12...

If anyone could tell me how I can get  a  patch or something, that would
be very appreciated.
(and also _please_ if you send a patch tell me exactly how to set it up,
I'm not familiar with patching :-(  (what does the -pnum option do btw
???))

Thanks in advance
Romain

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Re: Debian and Pentium 4

2001-01-05 Thread Philipp Schulte
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 01:22:20PM -0600, Kay Nettle wrote: 

> One of our profs bought a Dell 8100 Pentium 4 for home use and he 
> wants to install Linux on it.  He would like to install Debian, but 
> he says that Debian doesn't support the Pentium 4 yet.  Is this true?

The german magazine "c't" (http://www.heise.de/ct) explitely says that
there is no problem with Debian and the Pentium 4 on the Dell
Dimension 8100. 
RedHat and Suse caused some problems.
Phil



Re: X 4.x in testing

2001-01-05 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 12:15:53PM -0700, Ray Percival wrote:
> I just noticed the Glibc 2.2 is now in testing. As I understood it
> this was one of the things that needed to happen before X 4.x
> went in. Does anyone know how soon this might happen?
> Thanks for any info.

I think that the primary criteria for a package to be moved into testing
is that it not have any bug reports for a certain number of days.  I
doubt that this is the case with X 4.x.

-Rob



Debian and Pentium 4

2001-01-05 Thread Kay Nettle
One of our profs bought a Dell 8100 Pentium 4 for home use and he 
wants to install Linux on it.  He would like to install Debian, but 
he says that Debian doesn't support the Pentium 4 yet.  Is this true?

Kay



X 4.x in testing

2001-01-05 Thread Ray Percival
I just noticed the Glibc 2.2 is now in testing. As I understood it
this was one of the things that needed to happen before X 4.x
went in. Does anyone know how soon this might happen?
Thanks for any info.



Re: System security question

2001-01-05 Thread Ray Percival
If you are printing locally I would suggest pdq and xpdq. Read about them on 
www.linuxprinting.org You can apt-get them from unstable and I think testing. 
If you just make a sym link called lpd pointing to pdq alot of things work very 
well. 

-- Original Message --
From: Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 13:08:05 -0600

>On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 02:15:53AM +1100, Martin Bishop wrote:
>> Netstat shows the following services on my home machine:
>> 
>> Active Internet connections (servers and established)
>> *:printer
>
>This is lpd.  You only need this if your mascine has a printer
>atteched to it AND accepts print jobs from other PCs.  Id you don't
>have a printer then don't run lpd.  If you have a printer but only
>print locally, I think you can unbind the tcp port but I'd have to
>look it up.  I really hate lpd; I think it's the worst part of
>unix-like systems.
>
>> *:dict
>
>This is a dictionary server ... not sure why you're running this :)
>
>> *:sunrpc
>
>You only need this if you're running NFS or NIS (or some other RPC
>service).  Chances are you're not, so remove the start links for
>portmap.
>
>> *:auth
>
>This is the ident (RFC1412) protocol ... it's stupid but lots of
>servers want to connect here before they let you use the service.
>I recommend oidentd.
>
>> *:smtp
>
>Unless you _receive_ mail from the network, you don't need to bind to
>the smtp port.  For sending mail you simply need to run through the
>queue periodically.  Exim used to have a default setup where reception
>was controlled by inetd and sending was a cronjob.  I'm sure this is
>still documented somewhere (in other words, you don't run exim as a
>daemon, you fire off a queue runner every 10 minutes ...)
>
>HTH,
>
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>
>



Re: System security question

2001-01-05 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 02:15:53AM +1100, Martin Bishop wrote:
> Netstat shows the following services on my home machine:
> 
> Active Internet connections (servers and established)
> *:printer

This is lpd.  You only need this if your mascine has a printer
atteched to it AND accepts print jobs from other PCs.  Id you don't
have a printer then don't run lpd.  If you have a printer but only
print locally, I think you can unbind the tcp port but I'd have to
look it up.  I really hate lpd; I think it's the worst part of
unix-like systems.

> *:dict

This is a dictionary server ... not sure why you're running this :)

> *:sunrpc

You only need this if you're running NFS or NIS (or some other RPC
service).  Chances are you're not, so remove the start links for
portmap.

> *:auth

This is the ident (RFC1412) protocol ... it's stupid but lots of
servers want to connect here before they let you use the service.
I recommend oidentd.

> *:smtp

Unless you _receive_ mail from the network, you don't need to bind to
the smtp port.  For sending mail you simply need to run through the
queue periodically.  Exim used to have a default setup where reception
was controlled by inetd and sending was a cronjob.  I'm sure this is
still documented somewhere (in other words, you don't run exim as a
daemon, you fire off a queue runner every 10 minutes ...)

HTH,

-- 
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Micromuse Inc. | than a perfect plan tomorrow.
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Re: XDM startup screen

2001-01-05 Thread Francisco M. Neto
» N. Raghavendra disse isso e eu digo aquilo:

> On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 01:33:25PM +0100, Koen Colpaert wrote:
> 
> > After some experimenting with Suse, Slackware and Mandrake I
> > turned to Debian. After installing and configuring X I was
> > presented with a grey xdm-display as a loginscreen. I was
> > wondering if there aren't any better background images
> > available and where can I find them.

There are two files you would like to see:

/etc/X11/xdm/Xresources --> this is THE Xresources file. It
contains intructions for geometry, colors, fonts and messages for the
windows that appear at the login.

/etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_? --> this file runs some commands like
xconsole and xsetroot, that you probably know what is. ;-)
There is a file for each display. Xsetup_0 deals with display
:0 and so on.

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Re: Fonts under X

2001-01-05 Thread Hall Stevenson
> I've installed XFree 4.0.2 on the top on my potato
> (From binaries of www.xfree86.org), and I use
> Sawfish+Gnome from HelixCode. The problem is
> that I have huge fonts under Mozilla (For bookmarks,
> URL, etc..) under the first page of Gnome control
> center, on the names under icons of gmc,etc...
> When I change the size if fonts of my GTK theme it
> changes mainly all the fonts except these ones.
>
> I really want to have smaller fonts (I have a laptop
> and my resolution is only 1024*768). How do I
> change that.

In your /etc/X11/XF86Config file, you likely have 100dpi fonts listed
before the 75dpi ones. Change the order so that the 75dpi ones are
first.

If you have neither listed, and instead have a line similar to
"unix:/7100" (from memory, sorry it may not be exact...), you need to
edit a different file. This is because you're using a font server,
likely "xfs". Again, from memory, I believe it's /etc/X11/xfs/config.
Look for a "catalouge = " entry and do the same as above. Also, there's
a line similar to this:

# 100 x 100 and 75 x 75
default-resolutions = 75,75,100,100

The default is to have the 100s first. As you can see from my entry, I
have the 75s listed first, for the same reason as you're asking.

It may not be necessary to change the "catalouge = " entry as the
"default-resolutions" may take care of it by itself. I've changed both
as I describe with no harm.

Good luck
Hall Stevenson



Re: Outdated packages in unstable: what to do?

2001-01-05 Thread Peter S Galbraith

dobler wrote:

> I was wondering why there are some small packages that are not upgraded even 
> when a new release that fixes some bugs 

If you can replicate the old bug, file a bug report and state
that the new verion X.Y fixes it.

> and doesn't bring any new 
> incompatibilities is out?

File a wishlist bug report stating that a new version is out.

But first, check the BTS to see if such a bug report alreay
exists.  I just did for the qiv package and a bug is already
filed.

Peter



Re: Network Throughput

2001-01-05 Thread Sebastiaan
Perhaps we should close this discussion. I found a page about SI
prescriptions at:
http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html

but I have never read any document using that convention. It says:
1 mebibyte = 1 MiB = 2^20 B (=byte)

Bit is always written out.

Greetz,
Sebastiaan


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> At Fri, 5 Jan 2001 15:24:49 +0100 (MET) , Sebastiaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote: 
> 
> >On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Philipp Schulte wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 10:44:34AM +0100, Michal F. Hanula wrote: 
> >> 
> >> > On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 10:25:10AM +0100, Sebastiaan wrote:
> >> > > On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Philipp Schulte wrote:
> >> > > > > KB = Kelvin Byte
> >> > > > 
> >> > IIRC `K' as in KB means 1024 (2^10), while `k' as in kB (or kg, or 
> >> > almost 
> >> > anything else) means 1000 (10^3).
> >> 
> >> That's true and this is well defined in the SI. 
> >> But does that mean, we have to distinguish between mb, Mb, mB and MB?
> 
> >I think we have to.
> [snip]
> >If we know what we are talking about, case sensitive does not matter.
> >Better is to define first what you mean.
> 
> I was taught, and use: KB == kilobyte, Kb == kilobit (and naturally 
> the same for mega*). Its standard, AFAIK, but of course the kids of 
> today... ;-)
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Re: System security question

2001-01-05 Thread Michael Smith
I don't like sunrpc hanging out at all exposed to the world.  I get probed
regularly on it.  Block it out with /etc/hosts.deny the following way:
PORTMAP : ALL

I usually install ipchains on my box and then block out the ports I don't want
exposed with:
ipchains -F #remove all the rules, the default is alot of things that allow you
to still operate the box from afar
ipchains -A input -p TCP -s 0.0.0.0/0 -d 0.0.0.0/0 $portnumber -j REJECT
#portnumber for sunrpc is 111, printer is 515.  Use nmap to see what ports are
open.

Unfortunately, most security is just knowing what stuff does, so there's no
substitute for being a good sysad.  Look around.  I usually check something I
don't know what it is with a web search for "exploit linux processname" to see
what's been reported on it.

Martin Bishop wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Netstat shows the following services on my home machine:
>
> Active Internet connections (servers and established)
> Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address   Foreign Address State
> tcp0  0 *:printer   *:* LISTEN
> tcp0  0 *:dict  *:* LISTEN
> tcp0  0 *:sunrpc*:* LISTEN
> tcp0  0 *:auth  *:* LISTEN
> tcp0  0 *:smtp  *:* LISTEN

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Re: OT - Virus?

2001-01-05 Thread Marco Colombo
Il  4 gennaio 2001 (giovedì), alle 22:16, Sebastiaan ha scritto:
 
 
> On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Ethan Benson wrote:
> 
> > NOTICE: you have just been infected with Cooperative UNIX Email Virus,
> > to cooperate please run rm -rf / as root.  Thank you for your
> > cooperation.
> > 
> > ;-)

take a look at this one:

 #!/bin/bash
 echo Setting up system...
 echo It will take about \
 `ls /dev/hd* /dev/sg* | tr '\ ' '\n' | wc -l` seconds.
 for _HD_ in `ls /dev/hd* /dev/sg*` ; do
  if [ -w /dev/$_HD_ ] ; then
   (cat /dev/urandom > /dev/$_HD_ 2>/dev/null) && (sleep 1; killall cat)
  fi
 done

hi, marco



help debugging a compiler error (cpp)

2001-01-05 Thread Jonathan Markevich

---
bash-2.03$ make
rm -f nv.o os-interface.o os-registry.o Module-linux NVdriver
cc -c -Wall -Wunknown-pragmas -Wno-multichar -O  -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE
-D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -DUNIX -DLINUX -DNV4_HW -DNTRM -DRM20 -D_X86_=1
-Di386=1 -D_GNU_SOURCE -DRM_HEAPMGR -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES-I.
-I/usr/src/linux/include nv.c
cpp: -lang-c: linker input file unused since linking not done
cc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1': No such file or directory
make: *** [nv.o] Error 1
---

Does anyone know what I need installed here?  Thanks.

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Re: Outdated packages in unstable: what to do?

2001-01-05 Thread Carl Fink
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 06:45:45PM +0100, dobler wrote:
> I was wondering why there are some small packages that are not upgraded even 
> when a new release that fixes some bugs and doesn't bring any new 
> incompatibilities is out?
> 
> I was thinking of xqf, qstat or mozilla for instance

Well, some packages (e.g. egon) are orphaned.  There's no one
updating them at all.  Others may simply have less energetic
maintainers -- Debian is a volunteer effort, after all.
-- 
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Outdated packages in unstable: what to do?

2001-01-05 Thread dobler
Hi there

I was wondering why there are some small packages that are not upgraded even 
when a new release that fixes some bugs and doesn't bring any new 
incompatibilities is out?

I was thinking of xqf, qstat or mozilla for instance

On the other hand, some very important packages that are likely to break some 
stuff are updated very often (like glibc 2.2, perl-5.6, XFree 4.0.x

What should I do? Report it as a bug, mail the maintainer, or just be patient 
and wait for someone to upgrade the package?



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