nfs problems

2001-03-14 Thread Forrest English
ok, here's what i do on the server.

/etc/exports file contains
/cdrom 192.168.2.30

and the client's fstab contains
192.168.1.10:/cdrom /nfscdrom nfs rsize=1024,wsize=1024 0 0

i on the server, i then did...  /etc/init.d/nfs-server reload

and mounting on the client reports

grickle:~# mount /nfscdrom
mount: thneed:/test failed, reason given by server: Permission denied

could someone please elighten me on what the heck i'm doing wrong?

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Re: coexistence with Windows 2000

2001-03-14 Thread Dieter Schicker

Hello,

I'm running Debian (Potato) and Windoze2000 on one machine. Here are my
experiences:
First of all, they coexist peacefully! :-)

1) Install Debian

2) Edit lilo.conf:

(--> attachment: my lilo.conf)

3) Don't forget to run lilo!

4) Install Windows 2000 (first make sure to apply the right boot sequence in
your bios setup [e.g. "CDROM, A, C" when installing Windows from a CD])

5) Reboot: You should now see an option menu like:
Boot: 1) Linux
2) Windows
6) Have fun running two OSs on your machine.

Cheers
Dieter

PS: Since I assume that you are already running Win2000, I have to confess
that I don't know how to alter this installation sequence. I _had_to_
install Debian first.

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Darryl Röthering [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. März 2001 21:37
> An: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Betreff: coexistence with Windows 2000
>
>
> Dear all:
>
> As much as I would like to just wipe out Windows, I have to have
> it for some
> support purposes (work). However, I would like to repartition and
> get Debian
> up.
>
> I have been reading and re-reading "tfm," but wonder if anyone has any
> experience on this.
>
> I put up slink with just the floppies on an old throwaway system
> a year ago,
> but I don't see how I can use lilo to switch between Windows and
> debian. I
> can use the lilo.conf file to point to other kernels, but what
> entries do I
> put there to boot up a Windows session?
>
> Could someone with experience explain how this is done? I need a
> little more
> comfort level on this before I get started.
>
> TIA.
>
> Darryl
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Re: Help with printer

2001-03-14 Thread Vadim Kutsyy
> Hey,
>
> do you have lp support enabled in the kernel (grep
> dmesg for lp0)?  Try doing 'insmod lp' and then
> printing.

I have it as a part of the kernel ("parallel port support" and "PC-style
hardware").  'insmod lp' doesn't work.

>Have you read the printing HOWTO?

Do you mean:
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Printing-HOWTO/index.html

I didn't find it to be very helpfull for configurating lpr


>
> Cameron Matheson
>
> --- Vadim Kutsyy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I finally got my hands to try to fix printer.  I
> > have "Epson Stylus color
> > 440".  Right now it doens't print:
> >
> > debian:~# lpq
> > waiting for lp to become ready (offline ?)
> > Rank   Owner  Job  Files
> > Total Size
> > 1stroot   715  test
> > 0 bytes
> >
> > Any recomendation were I would start (or a
> > refference to a documatation)?
> >
> > I am running unstable, and my printcap is:
> >
> > lp|Generic dot-matrix printer entry:\
> > :lp=/dev/lp0:\
> > :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
> > :af=/var/log/lp-acct:\
> > :lf=/var/log/lp-errs:\
> > :pl#66:\
> > :pw#80:\
> > :pc#150:\
> > :mx#0:\
> > :sh:
> >
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: sendmail: extra from line

2001-03-14 Thread Brian May
> "Andy" == Andy Spiegl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> Oh, of course, I missed this. It looks like two programs may be
>> competing to add the From header. What do you have in your
>> .forward file?

Andy> Nothing.  It doesn't exist.  I do have a .procmailrc, but
Andy> even when I move that out of the way this second from line
Andy> appears.  What else could be adding it?

Where is procmail called (I assume it is)? Is formail used?

Andy> I also tried to send me a mail doing "telnet localhost 25".
Andy> But still this second from-line appears.  Help I have a
Andy> ghost! :-)

Beware, you computer is haunted ;-).
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Selecting i686 for compiled code?

2001-03-14 Thread Randolph S. Kahle


I am compiling my first set of code under Debian and the
Debian package management system.

I downloaded the source for bash and I want to try to
compile it for the i686 instruction set and with O3
optimization level.

I am using the

debian/rules build

method and I am not able to figure out how to
set up the environment for something other
than i386 instruction set.

I looked at dpkg-architecture, but that selects
the processor family (i386, m68k, etc.), but
not the specific processor type.

Can someone point me in the right direction?

Thanks!

Randy



Help with printer

2001-03-14 Thread Vadim Kutsyy
I finally got my hands to try to fix printer.  I have "Epson Stylus color
440".  Right now it doens't print:

debian:~# lpq
waiting for lp to become ready (offline ?)
Rank   Owner  Job  Files Total Size
1stroot   715  test  0 bytes

Any recomendation were I would start (or a refference to a documatation)?

I am running unstable, and my printcap is:

lp|Generic dot-matrix printer entry:\
:lp=/dev/lp0:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
:af=/var/log/lp-acct:\
:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:\
:pl#66:\
:pw#80:\
:pc#150:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:


Thanks.




Re: realplayer 8 won't install via apt

2001-03-14 Thread kmself
on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 04:49:56PM -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com 
(kmself@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
> on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 04:27:09PM -0800, Denzil Kelly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
> wrote:
> > I am having troble installing real player 8. apt
> > doesn't work. It is unable to complete the
> > installation because it say's that I am in a
> > non-interactive mode. Does anyone know what this mean?
> 
> See my posts on this topic here in the past week.

Briefly:

  - dpkg-reconfigure debconf:  selectin interactive mode.

If this causes problems:

For debconf, upgrade to the latest unstable (0.9.x), which goes without
a hitch (thanks, Joey).

For RealPlayer, the [EMAIL PROTECTED]&*() installation still wasn't working
(nonzero exit status in postinst [1]), so I did a 'dpkg -i' on the
debianized RPM:

- Download realplayer RPM.
- $ fakeroot alien $realplayerRPM
- $ sudo dpkg -i $realplayerDEB

Cheers.


Notes:

1.  A fix was posted, check list archives.

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Re: Neet to get PostgreSQL 7.0.X

2001-03-14 Thread will trillich
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 08:13:37PM -0600, Jorge Santos wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I need to install PostgreSQL 7.0.X for my job, the version in potato
> is 6.5.X, so what options do I have, I have downloade the .deb from
> unstable but it has unmet dependencies.  So what options do I have?  I
> was thinking about upgrading to unstable but apt-get dist-upgrade
> reports that is going to uninstall several packages and I'm wondering
> if it is such a good idea.  Well, summing it up, what is the best
> option to get PostgreSQL 7.0.X without breaking things?

good news -- there IS a postgresql that's POTATO-friendly.

first

pg_dumpall > save.my.butt.from.idiocy.sql

then munge your sources.list, adding the line:

# /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://www.samfundet.no/~tfheen/debian potato main

and finally

apt-get update  #   && apt-get upgrade
apt-get install postgres{,-client,-dev,-doc}

NOTE -- the 7.0.3potato0 version from samfundet.no DOES have many
many nice features that 6.5.3 does not -- but there's NO EMBEDDED
PERL just yet. for that you'll have to build it from source, or
(like me) wait...

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Re: sendmail: extra from line

2001-03-14 Thread Andy Spiegl
> Oh, of course, I missed this. It looks like two programs may be
> competing to add the From header. What do you have in your .forward
> file?
Nothing.  It doesn't exist.  I do have a .procmailrc, but even when I move
that out of the way this second from line appears.  What else could be
adding it?

I also tried to send me a mail doing "telnet localhost 25".  But still
this second from-line appears.  Help I have a ghost! :-)

Thanks,
 Andy.

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Re: Use different cache dir for apt-get dist-upgrade

2001-03-14 Thread Osamu Aoki
Answer to your posting: 
Point the content of /etc/apt/sources to "unstable" or "sid" using http
connection to your nearest debian mirror server.

My recommendation: Do not do this.  No offense, but if you are asking
this kind of question, you should get used to configuring system in
potato/stable than moving to sid/unstable :-) 

If you want newer packages, woody/testing may be more for you and me.
And if you need something newer with REASONS, then obtain those packages
as source packages from sid and compile locally for local system.  This
is the way to be in bleeding edge.  If you think this is too much,
better not to waist your time with sid .  Just keep installing sid will
create very unstable situation especially if this is not a spare toy
machine.

I see similar posing and concerned. \^o^/~~~

Have you done Samoa, NSF, local DNS cash server, ipmasq, mail server,
CVS system, local httpd, ftpd, configuring for firewall  Many things
to do...  

IMHO, Just using most recent package is not upgrade but self
destructive.

Good luck and regards,

Osamu

On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 11:55:40AM -0600, Rogelio E. Castillo Haro wrote:
> Hi,
> I want to upgrade my potato to sid is that right?
> What should I do? Which are the source.lists lines or where may I found it?
> 
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Re: etherexpress card and modconf

2001-03-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 06:17:00PM -0700, John Galt wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Don Seiler wrote:
> 
> >hullo.
> >
> >I'm having trouble getting my Intel EtherExpress card online.  Using
> >modconf, when I try at add the "eexpress" module, it first does an
> >autoprobe and returns this:
> >eexpress
> >
> >io = 0x300
> >irq = 0   (IRQ value read from EEPROM)
> 
> Impossible.  The irq is between 1 and 15.  IRQ 0 is the CPU.

Sorry John, but IRQ 0 does happen and generally indicates something
not very nice has happened.  I've seen this happen with the POS HP
Pavilion I have here.  It went away when I upgraded to kernel 2.4.2
and enabled PnP in the kernel, so I assume the problem is the PnP
stuff is going wrong during boot.

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Re: Testing upgrade and consequences

2001-03-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 06:22:28PM -0600, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
> > But I doubt whether any developer could reproduce this system exactly
> > without an accurate image of my machine state; so I'll start with the
> > big problem (apache) and try to send in a fuller description of all the
> > problems encountered once I've sussed how to do 'proper' bug reports,
> > and where to send them.
> 
> FWIW, purging apache-perl and installing apache and mod-perl fixed that 
> for me.

Are you loading mod_perl in the apache config?  I've been trying to do
this (your post made me wonder, but I want to use Mason and mod_perl
anyway) ... I can't get this to work using woody packages.  What perl
version do you have installed?

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Re: Neet to get PostgreSQL 7.0.X

2001-03-14 Thread Daniel Freedman

Hi,

You might want to consider getting the source or tarball of binary
from www.postgresql.org.  I've installed such in /usr/local (to not
mess with Debian packaging) on my potato system and it works quite
nicely.  Especially, if you get the almost-released 7.1 (beta5 IIRC)
which has write-ahead-logging, outer joins, and lots of other
really-appreciated features.  In fact, some of these later postgresql
releases (>6.5) are available as unofficial debian packages for
potato.  Search the postgresql.org mailing list archives.  There's
been discussion of it there.

Hope this helps,

Daniel

On Wed, Mar 14, 2001, Jorge Santos wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I need to install PostgreSQL 7.0.X for my job, the version in potato
> is 6.5.X, so what options do I have, I have downloade the .deb from
> unstable but it has unmet dependencies.  So what options do I have?  I
> was thinking about upgrading to unstable but apt-get dist-upgrade
> reports that is going to uninstall several packages and I'm wondering
> if it is such a good idea.  Well, summing it up, what is the best
> option to get PostgreSQL 7.0.X without breaking things?
> 
> jorge
> 
> 
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acroread won't print

2001-03-14 Thread peanut butter
Hi,

I'm having problems printing from acroread.  I use lprng with the
filter /etc/magicfilter/ljet4l-filter on an HP Laserjet 5M.  Things
print fine from the command line and I can even save the file as a
postscript from acroread and then print it from the command line yet
hitting the print button from within acroread produces no printout.  A
pop up window appears saying the job is submitted and it will go
through all of the pages saying printing page # of # yet I can never
find it in the printer's queue, it never prints and I never get any
error messages from acroread, lprng or in a system log file.

>From searching mailing list archives, seems like no one else has
ever run into this problem.  I'm at a loss for how to trace where
things are failing.  Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks,
Paul

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Re: coexistence with Windows 2000

2001-03-14 Thread Casper Gielen
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 09:37:29PM +, Darryl R?thering wrote:
> I put up slink with just the floppies on an old throwaway system a year ago, 
> but I don't see how I can use lilo to switch between Windows and debian. I 
> can use the lilo.conf file to point to other kernels, but what entries do I 
> put there to boot up a Windows session?
> 
Quick guide:
-create some unpartioned space on your disk to install linux to
-use bootfloppies and install linux
-write /etc/lilo.conf  (I've attached mine)
-run lilo
-be happy

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boot=/dev/hda   
root=/dev/hda3  # my linux root partition, yours is probably different
delay=200
map=/boot/map
compact
read-only
default=l
image=/vmlinuz  # linux
label=l
image=/vmlinuz.old  # linux backup
label=o
other=/dev/hda1 # windows
label=w
table=/dev/hda


requirements of cipe

2001-03-14 Thread Nick
what kernel do I need?
Can I use 2.2.14 or 2.2.18

I tried installing w/ a fresh install of 2.2.r2 w/ pre-compiled stock kernel
said the kernel tree was no good. 

Do I need to compile my own or install the kernel-image from dselect?

Any necessary modules except for what is required for IP-masq and Nat.

I have both internal networks setup inside linux firewalls

Thanks

-Nick



Xircom Rex

2001-03-14 Thread Tomaas Ortega



Its a long shot but i might as well try anyway, is there any 
syncing software for a xircom rex to sink to linux in any way shape or 
form...
 
If anyone can help me out on this it would be greatly 
appreciated
 
thanx
tom


Neet to get PostgreSQL 7.0.X

2001-03-14 Thread Jorge Santos

Hi,

I need to install PostgreSQL 7.0.X for my job, the version in potato
is 6.5.X, so what options do I have, I have downloade the .deb from
unstable but it has unmet dependencies.  So what options do I have?  I
was thinking about upgrading to unstable but apt-get dist-upgrade
reports that is going to uninstall several packages and I'm wondering
if it is such a good idea.  Well, summing it up, what is the best
option to get PostgreSQL 7.0.X without breaking things?

jorge



Re: How best to install a TrueType font on Debian?

2001-03-14 Thread Jimmy Kaplowitz
According to 'apt-cache show type1inst', that works on Adobe Type 1 fonts, not
TrueType fonts. What would you suggest for TrueType fonts?

- Jimmy Kaplowitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 06:33:08PM -0700, John Galt wrote:
> 
> type1inst would be what I'd use...
> 
> On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote:
> 
> >Hi everyone. I just downloaded a TrueType font (Lucida Sans Unicode) and am
> >wondering what's the best way to install that so that everything works in the
> >Debian fashion. You know, what's the "official Debian" policy-guided (etc.)
> >way to install a TrueType font? What packages do I need, what commands do I
> >type, etc.? Also, does anyone offhand know the legal status of the Lucida 
> >Sans
> >Unicode font? I've read conflicting statements on that.
> >
> >Thanks in advance for your guidance. Please CC me on all replies; I was once
> >subscribed to the list but unsubscribed due to the extremely high volume.
> >
> >- Jimmy Kaplowitz
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> 
> -- 
> 
> You have paid nothing for the preceding, therefore it's worth every penny
> you've paid for it: if you did pay for it, might I remind you of the
> immortal words of Phineas Taylor Barnum regarding fools and money?
> 
> Who is John Galt?  [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!
> 



about apt-get

2001-03-14 Thread Rogelio E. Castillo Haro
Hi!

I'm do an apt-get upgrade, but something is wrong.

It seems that some files there isn't at server on my source.list...

http.us.debian.org stable/main dnsutils and modutils by example, apt-get

says file not found, any help about this?

Or maybe I need to change my source.lists lines?

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Linux 2001 :)





Re: Use different cache dir for apt-get dist-upgrade

2001-03-14 Thread Bob Wilkinson
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 09:57:58PM -0500, Ian Patrick Thomas wrote:
>   I am in the process of upgrading my distribution to 2.2 potato? or
> whatever is the latest stable.  I have already done an apt-get check and no 
> errors were found.  The problem is that I get an error
> 
> Sorry, you don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/
> 
>   I am only using 33% of my /var directory right now, does this file 
> need more than 30mb.  If so then is there a way to specify a different file
> to use?  Maybe in apt.conf? 
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Ian
> 

Yes, just 

cd /var/cache/apt
rm -r archives
mkdir /home/me/archives # or wherever
ln -s !$
apt-get update && apt-get -y dist-upgrade

The amount of space you need depends on how many packages you have installed.

Bob
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Re: Bug#89658: FWD: realplayer 8 won't install via apt

2001-03-14 Thread Brian Russo


yes, its broken, use the one in unstable, 8.0.2
which should be in testing.. in roughly 2 more days.

it fixes all the problems people reported, and possibly introduces,
some new ones.

and to those who were paying attention,, this version is also in
proposed-updates, having already learned from my mistake.

i will not repeat it by immediately uploading what i believe to be a
fixed version into proposed-updates again, so.. i'll sit on this one
for a while and when I think its ok, ill upload it with high priority or
similar..


(cc'd to debian-user)

note, im not on -user, you'll have to send me any replies directly
assuming you want me to see them.


On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 05:04:06PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote:
> Package: realplayer
> Version: testing (?)
> 
> debian-user is awash in reports about realplayer complaining debconf in
> not in interactive mode. That part of the code has always worked fine
> ever since I wrote it, until a few weeks ago. I have to conclude the
> recent changes have broke it.
> 
> - Forwarded message from Denzil Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -
> 
> From: Denzil Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:27:09 -0800 (PST)
> To: "a. debian user" 
> Subject: realplayer 8 won't install via apt
> 
> I am having troble installing real player 8. apt
> doesn't work. It is unable to complete the
> installation because it say's that I am in a
> non-interactive mode. Does anyone know what this mean?
> 

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Re: How best to install a TrueType font on Debian?

2001-03-14 Thread John Galt

type1inst would be what I'd use...

On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote:

>Hi everyone. I just downloaded a TrueType font (Lucida Sans Unicode) and am
>wondering what's the best way to install that so that everything works in the
>Debian fashion. You know, what's the "official Debian" policy-guided (etc.)
>way to install a TrueType font? What packages do I need, what commands do I
>type, etc.? Also, does anyone offhand know the legal status of the Lucida Sans
>Unicode font? I've read conflicting statements on that.
>
>Thanks in advance for your guidance. Please CC me on all replies; I was once
>subscribed to the list but unsubscribed due to the extremely high volume.
>
>- Jimmy Kaplowitz
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>

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Re: about apt-get

2001-03-14 Thread Forrest English
did you do apt-get update first?

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There will be no reason for us to live
But when we have nothing left to lose
You will have nothing left to use"
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On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Rogelio E. Castillo Haro wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> I'm do an apt-get upgrade, but something is wrong.
> 
> It seems that some files there isn't at server on my source.list...
> 
> http.us.debian.org stable/main dnsutils and modutils by example, apt-get
> 
> says file not found, any help about this?
> 
> Or maybe I need to change my source.lists lines?
> 
> --
> Rogelio E. Castillo Haro
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Vive libre o muere!!!
> Linux 2001 :)
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 



Re: So, anyone knows wtf Apache.pm is? Was: Re: Testing upgrade and consequences

2001-03-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 03:39:53PM -0600, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:17:08PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> ...
> > Have you tried running apache (not apache-perl) and loading mod_perl?
> > It looks to me like you've got some problem caused by the prel 5.6
> > upgrade.
> 
> Hmm, interesting... Why tf did I install apache-perl in the first place?
> 
> I purged old apache-perl with --force-depends to get a clean slate and 
> installed apache. Apacheconfig is still b0rken (there's a full output 
> in one of my previous posts if anyone's interested) so I edited config 
> files and finally got apache to run.

Well, that's good :)  Perhaps you want to use RCS or CVS to track
config changes ...
 
> The next update that runs apacheconfig will presumably break it again,
> but that's way better than rebooting your box and finding out that
> apache won't start anymore.

So don't let apacheconfig make changes!  Always answer "n" to thje
prompt.

FWIW I can't get stock apache from testing/unstable to play nice with
mod_perl.  Investigating further ...

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Re: x and console runlevels

2001-03-14 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
It's really quite easy.  By default Debian boots to runlevel 2, and xdm
(or gdm, wdm, whatever is installed) is started at each runlevel.  If
you want, for example, xdm to not start at runlevel 2, just remove
/etc/rc2.d/S99xdm.  Booting (or merely switching) to runlevel 3, 4, or 5
will start xdm.  Nothing difficult, no voodoo.  Not Debian-specific,
either.

noah

On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 04:32:37PM -0500, Mario Lombardo wrote:
> That would be cool.  I couldn't figure it out either, so I just ctrl-c to the 
> cli
> console and removed xdm with:
> 
> apt-get remove xdm
> 
> Then I booted again.  X still doesn't work on my laptop.
> 
> Mario
> 
> 
> Gergely Nagy wrote:
> 
> > Hi!
> >
> > I want to be able to eather boot to the console or xdm (gdm). Under Redhat I
> > could do that with runlevels out of the box. How can I set this up under
> > Debian?
> >
> > Greg
> >
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Re: ipchain and init.d

2001-03-14 Thread will trillich
On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 12:03:02PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> My recommendation:
> 
> log in as root and
> 1. cd /etc/init.d
> 2. vi ipchains (to create this new file)
> 3. put your ip_forward code into it, and you have place here for your
> firewall rules.
> 4. exit vi
> 5. chmod u=rwx ipchains
> 6. chmod g=rx ipchains
> 7. chmod o=rx ipchains
> 
> Now at boot time your firewall will be started.

whoops -- you need to make some links into the /etc/rc*.d/* areas
that actually call the /etc/init.d/* scripts:

man update-rc.d

for example.

but for the task at hand, easiest thing to do is

apt-get install ipmasq
$EDITOR /etc/network/interfaces
ipmasq -v

done!

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Re: etherexpress card and modconf

2001-03-14 Thread John Galt
On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Don Seiler wrote:

>hullo.
>
>I'm having trouble getting my Intel EtherExpress card online.  Using
>modconf, when I try at add the "eexpress" module, it first does an
>autoprobe and returns this:
>eexpress
>
>io = 0x300
>irq = 0   (IRQ value read from EEPROM)

Impossible.  The irq is between 1 and 15.  IRQ 0 is the CPU.

>So I assume I need to specify the irq.  I _believe_ the irq is 14, but
>I've tried 9 and 5 also, and all return the same error:

No, in fact, you don't.  The eexpress module does a good job of
autodetecting IRQ.

>/lib/modules/2.2.18pre21/net/eexpress.o: init_module: Device or resource
>busy
>Hint: this error can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including
>invalid IO or IRQ parameters
>
>This is followed by failure messages.
>
>The command-line parameter I am using in modconf is this:
>options eexpress io=0x300 irq=14

Try without any io and irq.  Sometimes the module will autodetect.  If you
have no idea of the ioport and IRQ and the module doesn't autodetect,
contact me offlist for a Softset disk...

>I found that line on a webpage so have no idea if it is correct or not.
>That's when I decided the actual mailing list might be helpful.
>
>The ethernet card did work yesterday when RedHat was on it.  But let's
>not speak of that again.
>
>Any help would be very ... helpful.
>
>Thanks,
>Don.
>
>
>

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Re: SBLIVE! weird stuff.. anyone got it working?

2001-03-14 Thread Vlad
Had to recompile kernel and include SBLIVE as a module and then modprobe it.

Still have no idea how to make it work when compiled in ;)



Re: x and console runlevels

2001-03-14 Thread brian moore
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 06:00:17PM -0600, Bill Morgan wrote:
> On 3/14/01 4:17 PM, "Noah L. Meyerhans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > It's really quite easy.  By default Debian boots to runlevel 2, and xdm
> > (or gdm, wdm, whatever is installed) is started at each runlevel.
>^^ ^^^ ^^  
>  
> This has been puzzling me.  Why is there so little (if any) difference
> between the runlevels 2-5 on debian?  Are they intended as templates
> for the user to customize from?

Yes.  Exactly.

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Re: Testing upgrade and consequences

2001-03-14 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 11:25:26PM +, Martin WHEELER wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Joey Hess wrote:
...
> > And things broke. This is a suprise?
> 
> Yes.
> Shouldn't it be?  Please explain.
> (This is the method I have used to incrementally upgrade my installation
> for the past two years -- without problem.)
> Why should I expect things to break using this method?
> [This is a genuine query.  Don't understand your stance.  Really.]

If it isn't labelled "stable", things may break. If you try to updgrade
the whole distribution plus a bunch of 3rd party software to an unstable
snapshot of a not-yet-released distro... well, _I_ would expect things
to break. All of them. So yes, you should expect thing to break in
these circumstances.

I was fortunate: I had a clean box so I could load up minimal potato,
upgrade to testing and then install the stuff I need. That was painless.

> But I doubt whether any developer could reproduce this system exactly
> without an accurate image of my machine state; so I'll start with the
> big problem (apache) and try to send in a fuller description of all the
> problems encountered once I've sussed how to do 'proper' bug reports,
> and where to send them.

FWIW, purging apache-perl and installing apache and mod-perl fixed that 
for me.

Dima
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potato backport packages

2001-03-14 Thread Wichert Akkerman

I just uploaded a set of potato backport packages to
ftp://ftp.valinux.com/pub/people/wichert/ . The packages are divided
in two categories:

* kernel24, which has packages you need to run a 2.4 kernel. The only
  really needed package is modutils, the rest is only needed to use the
  extra features that 2.4 offers.
* ldap, which has OpenLDAPv2 packages with TLS support enabled. These are 
  needed if you need to use LDAP3 or TLS with LDAP.

The apt sources.list line to get these is:

  deb ftp://ftp.valinux.com/pub/people/wichert/debian potato/backport kernel24 
ldap
  deb-src ftp://ftp.valinux.com/pub/people/wichert/debian potato/backport 
kernel24 ldap

Please note that these packages have only been tested briefly, so it
is likely there are some bugs. Please report those to the
va-debian-users list or to me directly instead of filing bugreports to
the Debian BTS.

Known problems / things to check:

* the kernel image packages might need to be redone, I haven't had the
  opportunity to verify them yet. Please note they are tuned for VA
  hardware and don't include the full set of drivers that the normal
  Debian images have.
* there might be a problem with changing the password for other users
  when using LDAP accounts.
* the SASL non-US modules might not work correctly; this is supposed to
  be fixed in the latest unstable version, I need to verify if the
  problem also occurs in the backport
* Ben Collins just uploaded a new openldap package to unstable, and the
  changelog mentioned a TLS related patch. Need to verify if that needs
  to be added to the backported package as well.
* there are only i386 packages. Since VA only sells i386 hardware
  and I don't have the time to rebuild everything for multiple
  architectures I am not going to recompile them. However if other
  people do I will gladly add them to the archive.

Wichert.

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Re: Exim - Fetchmail - Procmail

2001-03-14 Thread will trillich
On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 03:42:37AM +0100, MamoMC wrote:
> When I send a message to myself (maurizio) locally exim passes
> the message correctly to procmail (I have a ~/.procmailrc)
> which moves it to ~/Mail/In which is read by Mutt.
>
> If I send a message to an e-mail address outside my PC world
> and the I fetch it by fetchmail (~/.fetchmailrc knows it has to
> get something from a POP3 server and pass it through to
> maurizio on my local machine) it stops in /var/mail/maurizio,
> so it's not passed to procamil to be treted as I want.
>
> I thought exim could understand that what was passed to him by
> fetchmail was to be delivered to user maurizio (myself), who
> has a ~/.procmailrc so it has to send everything to procmail.
>
> What's wrong?
>
> Is the error in Exim, Procmail or Fetchmail (without the MDA
> option it should pass everything to port 25 where Exim is
> listening to, shouldn't it)?

exim must know what to look for -- in my /etc/exim.conf DIRECTORS
section i've got

# This director runs procmail for users who have a .procmailrc file
procmail:
  driver = localuser
  transport = procmail_pipe
  require_files = ${local_part}:+${home}:+${home}/.procmailrc:+/usr/bin/procmail
  no_verify

so if exim can tell that there is a valid local_part, a
home-address exists, there's a ~/.procmailrc, and procmail itself
exists, then it'll run the procmail_pipe on it.

if this gets commented out, exim won't know to look for your
.procmailrc file, and it won't do any procmail filtering, either.

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Re: x and console runlevels

2001-03-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 06:00:17PM -0600, Bill Morgan wrote:
> On 3/14/01 4:17 PM, "Noah L. Meyerhans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > It's really quite easy.  By default Debian boots to runlevel 2, and xdm
> > (or gdm, wdm, whatever is installed) is started at each runlevel.
>^^ ^^^ ^^  
>  
> 
> This has been puzzling me.  Why is there so little (if any) difference
> between the runlevels 2-5 on debian?  Are they intended as templates
> for the user to customize from?

Yes.  Debian wants the sysadmin to have free reign rather than
locking them into a pre-built structure.

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Re: Testing upgrade and consequences

2001-03-14 Thread Martin WHEELER
On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Joey Hess wrote:

> It's like this. You upgraded to a not-yet-released, beta quality version
> of debian.

This I *now* know.  Before upgrading I was given to understand that
testing was a relatively problem-free upgrade to undertake -- not the
rat's nest of incompatibilities and error-messages I ran into.

> You seem to have done some pretty horrendous hacking to work
> around dependancy problems, instead of reporting them:

Why horrendous?  Stuff broke.  I fixed it.  (For my own system.)
And just how does one report a blanket suggestion that 452 system files
be removed in one go?

> > This I declined; and proceeded to (re-)install packages individually
> > from an apt-get --just-print dist-upgrade list.
>
> And things broke. This is a suprise?

Yes.
Shouldn't it be?  Please explain.
(This is the method I have used to incrementally upgrade my installation
for the past two years -- without problem.)
Why should I expect things to break using this method?
[This is a genuine query.  Don't understand your stance.  Really.]

> This will all get fixed if you file sane bug reports on each item (sane
> == including enough information for the developer to reproduce your
> problem). If you just rant, you will be ignored.

No -- I've already had a response from someone whose judgment and
opinions I usually tend to respect :)
(And ranting is good for the soul when you've just spent 10 days doing
an almost total rebuild of a complex system.  Thank your lucky stars
you're not Andrew -- as my nearest developer contact, he had to put up
with the phone calls every night.)

But I doubt whether any developer could reproduce this system exactly
without an accurate image of my machine state; so I'll start with the
big problem (apache) and try to send in a fuller description of all the
problems encountered once I've sussed how to do 'proper' bug reports,
and where to send them.

msw
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Re: ldconfig, again

2001-03-14 Thread Jim Bowering
** Reply to message from Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Wed, 14 Mar
2001 13:10:47 -0800

Thank you.  I forced ldso and it installed.  Now to see how it works

dselect works fine now.-)

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remote install on 100+ workstations?

2001-03-14 Thread Chris Majewski
The  computer  science department  at  my  university  has many  Linux
boxes.  Say,  on  the  order  of  100.  Almost  all  these  boxes  run
RedHat (not Debian, but read on). 

I don't like RedHat  that much: for example, RedHat 7.0 ships
with broken  kernel headers, an unreleased and  unsupported version of
the gcc compiler,  and a glibc version on which  gcc will only compile
after applying patches (these  patches complicate life by changing, in
an  architecture-dependent   way,  header  files  which   get  put  in
architecture-independent places).  

I would like to investigate replacing RedHat with Debian. 

The  current  rationale  for  using  RedHat is  that  there  exists  a
mechanism for  installing/upgrading many RedHat boxes,  in a customized
way, over the  network. This mechanism is called  "kickstart". I don't
know much  about it. I  don't know if  a similar mechanism  exists for
Debian. However, I suspect that it does. 

My question, then, is this: does  anyone have (or know of) a mechanism
which will  allow us  to install Debian  remotely on a  hundred+ boxes,
including  department-specific  customizations,  such as  patches  and
non-Debian  files?Given  that  we  are   a  research  environment,
administered by  some pretty  clueful people, our  linux installations
will necessarily  be very customized. So something  like 'apt-get', by
itself, is not good enough as I know it. 

Finally, I think  I've seen posts about this on  this list before, but
I'm  not  having  any  luck  finding  them  via  the  archives  search
engine. So  I apologize if  it turns out  that this topic  has already
been beaten to death on this list  in the past (I've been off the list
for a while, owing to its high volume). 

cheers,
chris






Re: linux card

2001-03-14 Thread Martin WHEELER
On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Matt Fair wrote:

> Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Any attempt to contact you off-list is bounced with:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
all relevant MX records point to non-existent hosts:
it appears that the DNS operator for this domain has installed an
invalid
MX record with an IP address instead of a domain name on the right hand
side

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How best to install a TrueType font on Debian?

2001-03-14 Thread Jimmy Kaplowitz
Hi everyone. I just downloaded a TrueType font (Lucida Sans Unicode) and am
wondering what's the best way to install that so that everything works in the
Debian fashion. You know, what's the "official Debian" policy-guided (etc.)
way to install a TrueType font? What packages do I need, what commands do I
type, etc.? Also, does anyone offhand know the legal status of the Lucida Sans
Unicode font? I've read conflicting statements on that.

Thanks in advance for your guidance. Please CC me on all replies; I was once
subscribed to the list but unsubscribed due to the extremely high volume.

- Jimmy Kaplowitz
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help: speech recognition, java and viavoice

2001-03-14 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
dear all,

i'm trying to install viavoice (ibm's voice recognition engine) on my woody
system.  viavoice requires "blackdown java JRE-1.2.2 rev RC4".   other than
a few non-technical details, i know nothing about java.   don't even know
what a JRE is.  but i'd really like to get speech recognition working on my
box.

on the mirror ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/devel/lang/java/blackdown.org/
debian/dists/woody/non-free/binary-i386/

there are the following packages:

j2re1.3_1.2.99rc1-3_i386.deb
j2re1.3_1.3.0-2_i386.deb
j2sdk1.3-doc-installer_1.3.0-1_all.deb
j2sdk1.3_1.2.99rc1-3_i386.deb
j2sdk1.3_1.3.0-2_i386.deb
jai-lib_1.0.2-1_i386.deb
jai-sample_1.0.2-1_all.deb
java3d-re_1.2-2_i386.deb
java3d-sdk_1.2-2_i386.deb
jmf_2.1.0.99-beta2-1_i386.deb

it looks like java3d-re_1.2-2_i386.deb is the correct package.  what do
people think?

thanks!
pete

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Re: realplayer 8 won't install via apt

2001-03-14 Thread Tomaas Ortega
It means you are in a non-interactive window :)


- Original Message -
From: "Denzil Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "a. debian user" 
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 11:27 AM
Subject: realplayer 8 won't install via apt


> I am having troble installing real player 8. apt
> doesn't work. It is unable to complete the
> installation because it say's that I am in a
> non-interactive mode. Does anyone know what this mean?
>
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Re: realplayer 8 won't install via apt

2001-03-14 Thread kmself
on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 04:27:09PM -0800, Denzil Kelly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> I am having troble installing real player 8. apt
> doesn't work. It is unable to complete the
> installation because it say's that I am in a
> non-interactive mode. Does anyone know what this mean?

See my posts on this topic here in the past week.

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Debian and HP49G

2001-03-14 Thread Glenn Becker

I just got an HP49G calculator ... purchased the "PC Connectivity Kit" in
a fairly clueless moment (clueless = not thinking that the included
software might be Windoze-only). 

Have found *some* Linux - HP calc connection stuff on SourceForge, but was
wondering if any Debian-ers are successfully shunting stuff back and forth
from Debian to an HP48 or 49. Would be interested in ... how ... :-)

Thanks,

Glenn Becker
Online Producer, Community
SCIFI.COM



nameserver for class CHAOS ?

2001-03-14 Thread will trillich
i've gotten a strange DNS/NAMED/BIND error message:

- Forwarded message from root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -

Subject: server 03/12/01:11.02 system check

Unusual System Events
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Mar 12 10:36:45 server named[2991]: No root nameservers for class CHAOS

- End forwarded message -

where do i look to determine whether or not this is important?
and what to do about it, if so?



Re: remote install on 100+ workstations?

2001-03-14 Thread brian moore
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:46:48PM -0800, Chris Majewski wrote:
> The  computer  science department  at  my  university  has many  Linux
> boxes.  Say,  on  the  order  of  100.  Almost  all  these  boxes  run
> RedHat (not Debian, but read on). 
> 
> I don't like RedHat  that much: for example, RedHat 7.0 ships
> with broken  kernel headers, an unreleased and  unsupported version of
> the gcc compiler,  and a glibc version on which  gcc will only compile
> after applying patches (these  patches complicate life by changing, in
> an  architecture-dependent   way,  header  files  which   get  put  in
> architecture-independent places).  

And of course RPM's quickly become a pain in the ass.

> I would like to investigate replacing RedHat with Debian. 
> 
> The  current  rationale  for  using  RedHat is  that  there  exists  a
> mechanism for  installing/upgrading many RedHat boxes,  in a customized
> way, over the  network. This mechanism is called  "kickstart". I don't
> know much  about it. I  don't know if  a similar mechanism  exists for
> Debian. However, I suspect that it does. 

See http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/

Dunno how well it works, since I haven't used it.

> My question, then, is this: does  anyone have (or know of) a mechanism
> which will  allow us  to install Debian  remotely on a  hundred+ boxes,
> including  department-specific  customizations,  such as  patches  and
> non-Debian  files?Given  that  we  are   a  research  environment,
> administered by  some pretty  clueful people, our  linux installations
> will necessarily  be very customized. So something  like 'apt-get', by
> itself, is not good enough as I know it. 

Actually, once past the install phase, apt-get and things like debhelper
should be sufficient. :)

Set up your own repository containing the things that you want.  Instead
of (or in addition to) the 'main/contrib/non-free', make directories for
'webservers', 'develboxes', 'testing' or whatever, where you put in
your toys.  The machines pointing to 'develboxes', for example, would
get a copy of perl with all the debugging stuff turned on, while the
webservers would get a normal one, perhaps with some superduper
optimizing turned on.  The 'testing' is for the bleeding edge folks
who can expect things to break, or you could do that by creating a
seperate 'distribution' for them much like Debian proper does.  How
you break things up depends on your needs.

One of the beauties of Debian is that it is very easy to adapt into your
own distribution  and if done right you can do it without breaking
compatibility with regular Debian.

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initial console

2001-03-14 Thread pplaw
debs,


after getting a kernel panic, as a result of
trying to boot a custom kernel (2.2.18), i managed
to fsck dev/hda1 (using a rescue floppy). when i try
to boot via lilo, i can't open an initial console:

fs: mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
unable to open an initial console.

...suggestions?

ia, t.

bentley taylor.

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Re: visudo not vi?

2001-03-14 Thread will trillich
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 05:31:43PM +0100, Turbo Fredriksson wrote:
> Quoting "Matus \"fantomas\" Uhlar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > -> > Here is what I got:
> > -> > 
> > -> > >
> > -> > 
> > -> > File read and write  ^X I ^X^W  Left, down, up, right   ^B  ^N  ^P
> > -> > ^F
> > -> 
> > -> > what the heck is this editor?  
> > -> 
> > -> ae.  It's supposed to be an easy editor.  I find it's a pain in the ass.
> > 
> > agreed, wtf it's still in the base distribution?
> > it should be probably replaced by elvis-tiny , even on distribution disks...
> > 
> > comments?
> 
> If memory serves me correctly, there where a big flamewar a couple of
> yars ago, about including emacs on the bootdisks etc. It was ultimatly
> desided and realized that even the most die-hard emacs fanatic (Tm :)
> that emacs is just to big for this purpose. So came ae, which let's you
> have a little of both worlds (at a big cost in both worlds unfortunatly,
> but that's usually what a compromise will do).

how about midnight commander instead of the wordstar-esque ae?

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Re: Testing upgrade and consequences

2001-03-14 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 05:40:29PM +, Martin WHEELER wrote:
> 
> >   He upgraded
> > from a Potato 2.2r2 system to current "testing" and most things broke in 
> > serious
> > ways, such that he swears he will never again move from stable releases.
> 
> And *how*.
> 
> NEVER again.  (Certainly not for client-critical systems.)
> 

I don't need to comment on that. Other people already have.

> On attempting upgrade to testing, first thing I was presented with was a
> decision to >>remove<< 402 Mb of system files (452 packages).
> 

Yup, testing is somewhat messed at present (that's not intentional, needless to 
say). You should probably have guessed that something was very wrong... you 
realise that the developers aren't actually out to break your system?

> This I declined; and proceeded to (re-)install packages individually
> from an apt-get --just-print dist-upgrade list.
> 

See "put package on hold"

> Things started to break/dependency-loop almost immediately.
> (The persistent offenders I remember most at this stage are exmh and
> kdeadmin.)  The dependency circus engendered was horrendous.
> 

Yeah, that happens sometime. It's a beta-quality distribution.

> Everything that was not "Debian-approved" got blown away. 
> (I run lots of non-free stuff on my Debian systems.  I have no
> ideological problems with this.)
> 

Uhhh no. Read the social contract. Debian carries non-free and contrib, 
there's no attempt to force you into using free packages, only repeated 
encouragement (see vrms). What happened was that everything which was 
fulfilling one of these two categories got removed:

a) package was dependant on something which was removed due to the testing 
mess, see above.
b) package was =version dependant on something in potato (bad packaging/bug), 
so you would need to either find an official debian version, or one built for 
woody (testing) - you can't usually run packages from one release on another 
safely unless you know exactly what you are doing (recompiling from source into 
a new .deb will do the trick)

> I was no longer able to go online.  (diald had been installed -- without
> asking -- on top of pppd.)
> 

Oops. That one is probably a bug.

> > Mailman configuration broke
> -- due to fact that ALL apache confiiguration files/directories were
> simply annihilated.  Again -- no warning; no explanation.
> 

Never used it myself... possibly another bug (hey, it's not called "stable" for 
a reason)

> > Pine broke
> -- discovered that something had reconfigured my smtp server (wasn't
> asked; wasn't warned -- just another example of the "Debian-disapproved
> -- therefore OK to blow away" syndrome experienced throughout this
> whole attempt to upgrade.)
> 

Far more likely is "not supported in debian due to licensing issues". Debian is 
not permitted to redistribute (modified) pine binaries. This kind of means that 
developers are disinclined to explicitly test it... although in this case, I'm 
guessing it wasn't pine related. Did you reconfigure the smtp server manually 
somehow? I'm guessing that you modified a configuration file directly when you 
should have used debconf/a source file (see /etc/modules.conf vs. /etc/modutils 
- suggestions on what could have caused this anyone?) and debian assumed that 
the changes to the config file were not of your doing, so put it back how you 
had told it (or not told it) you wanted it.

> > Mutt works, but is not his preferred option.
> Yeah -- but it's "Debian-approved", innit?
> 

Will you quit with that? Read the social contract already.

> > Exim configuration didn't, such that he reverted to smail.
> -- conflicted with mailman -- not flagged.
> 
> >  He won't believe me
> > when I say that Exim works fine.
> 
> [Not for me it bloody well doesn't.  Not after *this* upgrade.]
> 

Factoid from apt, a bot on #debian:
Look buddy, doesn't work is a strong statement.  Does it sit on the couch all 
day?  Does it want more money?  Is it on IRC all the time?  Please be specific!

> > Most seriously of all - "Apache in Debian is seriously broken"
> >
> > There may be a dependency loop on apache-perl which is inappropriate.
> 
> This is the real crux of the matter.
> I CANNOT recommend this type of upgrade to any of my clients.
> My existing apache configuration was totally wiped out.
> Conflicting and inconsistent dependencies between apache and apache-perl
> prevented re-installation.
> (I eventually managed it by forcing something -- can't remember what,
> now.  I ended up with apache-ssl; and a version of apache-perl that
> still can't be purged.)
> This would be instant death to any of the clients I deal with -- I am
> not surprised that some of them ban debian entirely.
> 

dselect is arcane... dependency loops can be broken... or you can use dpkg 
--set-selections... apache-perl has been known to have problems, but you most 
certainly can force uninstall it... I am not suprised you have troubles with 
testing - it's not for those who don't u

Re: x and console runlevels

2001-03-14 Thread Bill Morgan
On 3/14/01 4:17 PM, "Noah L. Meyerhans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It's really quite easy.  By default Debian boots to runlevel 2, and xdm
> (or gdm, wdm, whatever is installed) is started at each runlevel.
   ^^ ^^^ ^^  
 

This has been puzzling me.  Why is there so little (if any) difference
between the runlevels 2-5 on debian?  Are they intended as templates
for the user to customize from?

Thanks,

Bill



Re: x and console runlevels

2001-03-14 Thread kmself
on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 06:00:17PM -0600, Bill Morgan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On 3/14/01 4:17 PM, "Noah L. Meyerhans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > It's really quite easy.  By default Debian boots to runlevel 2, and xdm
> > (or gdm, wdm, whatever is installed) is started at each runlevel.
>^^ ^^^ ^^  
>  
> 
> This has been puzzling me.  Why is there so little (if any) difference
> between the runlevels 2-5 on debian?  Are they intended as templates
> for the user to customize from?

Yes.

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Re: Testing upgrade and consequences

2001-03-14 Thread Chris Bates
On Wednesday 14 March 2001  5:40 pm, Martin WHEELER wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> >   He upgraded
> > from a Potato 2.2r2 system to current "testing" and most things broke
> > in serious ways, such that he swears he will never again move from
> > stable releases.
>
> And *how*.
>
> NEVER again.  (Certainly not for client-critical systems.)


This salutory tale has a number of lessons for us all. 

Firstly _NEVER_ trust the software. Even if it is dselect/apt-get/whatever 
and Debian. Always RTFM then read the message you're getting back and if 
you don't like what you see _bail out_. 

Secondly don't, IMO, expect anything on the bleeding edge to work properly. 
Debian has two beautiful aspects (speaking as a refugee from NT and 
RedHat): it is very conservative and hence very stable; and apt-get install 
is one of the neatest ideas I've seen. The important thing there is the 
first point, this rather than freedom should be the USP of Debian as far as 
business is concerned. Systems don't have to chase beta releases of every 
package, only upgrade if you _need_ to (e.g. if you must have USB support 
in your kernel).

Thirdly, keep a backup. Do one now just to make sure. 

I've only been using Debian GNU/Linux for a couple of months and early on I 
tried to do a dist-upgrade or similar. Got a message saying that broadly my 
whole system was about to be nuked and quickly pressed Ctl-C. Now I accept 
lagging behind a little, I've upgraded KDE to 2.1, but otherwise very 
little will change on this box. 

As regards packages which are imporant but which may not be *Debianized*, I 
put things like Java, Star Office and Adobe Acrobat in /opt. If you have 
/opt and /home on different partitions to / then you can keep anything 
important and unique to you quite safe. The Debian tools are then 
relatively free to play with _their_ packages without endangering _your_ 
applications. I mention this because Martin seems to have lost things like 
SGML DTDs which should never have been placed in unsafe locations. I have 
two installs on my hard drive, one's a small emergency system so that if my 
main install gets damaged I can still access /home and /opt _and_ save 
those areas if I reinstall.

Final thought, are these Debain tools suitable for business users? Should 
any business auto-update anything? Probably not, certainly not on a 
critical system. Businesses should use stable + security updates + 
upgrading key software only if it provides vital features.

IMO, of course.


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Re: testing and unstable GIMP

2001-03-14 Thread Bob Wilkinson
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 08:31:47AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> How do I just install a newer version of an application from unstable on my
> stable system leaving the rest as stable? e.g. I want gimp 1.2 but not the
> rest of unstable.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Robin

Easiest way is to

1. cd /etc/apt
2. cp sources.list sources.list.stable
3. Edit sources.list - point at unstable ftp site e.g. 

deb ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free

4. apt-get update && apt-get install gimp
5. mv sources.list.stable sources.list

Bob

P.S. You could just retrieve the latest gimp from the ftp server, and dpkg -i it
but then you'd have to mend any dependencies yourself :-(

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Re: sendmail: extra from line

2001-03-14 Thread Brian May
> "Andy" == Andy Spiegl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Andy> Of course.  But the second (quoted) one which probably was
Andy> there before certainly isn't normal and shouldn't be there.

Andy> I compared with other machines (running SuSE, Solaris, DEC
Andy> Unix) and nowhere does sendmail produce this extra line.

Andy> It also confuses other software.  For example try to
Andy> "bounce" one of these mails with mutt: the mail looses all
Andy> its header information.  Actually the header lines now
Andy> appear in the body of the message.  Similar things happen
Andy> with other programs.

Oh, of course, I missed this. It looks like two programs may be
competing to add the From header. What do you have in your .forward
file?
-- 
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Re: Testing upgrade and consequences

2001-03-14 Thread Martin WHEELER
On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Chris Bates wrote:

> Debian has two beautiful aspects (speaking as a refugee from NT and
> RedHat): it is very conservative and hence very stable;

agreed -- this is why I have been using it since 1996

> and apt-get install
> is one of the neatest ideas I've seen.

likewise -- this is the biggest plus point Debian has for me.

> I've only been using Debian GNU/Linux for a couple of months and early on I
> tried to do a dist-upgrade or similar.

-- I've been doing a dist-upgrade every night for the last eighteen
months.  Any problems have been really minimal.  I *trust* it.

> As regards packages which are imporant but which may not be *Debianized*, I
> put things like Java, Star Office and Adobe Acrobat in /opt.

Which is where mine were.  Didn't stop StarOffice from being nuked, tho.

>  I mention this because Martin seems to have lost things like
> SGML DTDs which should never have been placed in unsafe locations.

No -- didn't lose *any* DTDs.  (They're safely catalogued.)  Mainly lost
apps and above all, configuration files for apps.  No idea why the
configuration files & directories seemed to be so badly nuked.

> Final thought, are these Debain tools suitable for business users?

Yes.  (Professional sysadmins love 'em.  Trainee sysadmins really
appreciate the ease of upgrade -- once they've fought with a couple of
non-installable RPMs, that is.  Workstation *users* should never see
them.)

> Should
> any business auto-update anything? Probably not, certainly not on a
> critical system.

*Definitely* not on critical systems.  Stable only; and nothing else.
(I just had a hankering to try testing, is all. )

> Businesses should use stable + security updates +
> upgrading key software only if it provides vital features.

Absolutely.
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realplayer 8 won't install via apt

2001-03-14 Thread Denzil Kelly
I am having troble installing real player 8. apt
doesn't work. It is unable to complete the
installation because it say's that I am in a
non-interactive mode. Does anyone know what this mean?

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RE: Where'd the Linux modem compatibility database go?

2001-03-14 Thread Joan-Antoni

> A friend has expressed some interest in installing Linux, so I was going
to
> point him to some web pages listing compatible hardware.  I wanted to
> supply him with the URL to the Linux modem compatibility database,
> http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html, but this is no longer valid.
>
> Does anyone know if this (very helpful) page has been moved?  Can someone
> supply me with an updated address?
>


Try http://www.idir.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html
or http://www.grapewine.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html



Thanks,

Joan-Antoni



Re: Debian and HP49G

2001-03-14 Thread David Z Maze
Glenn Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
GB> I just got an HP49G calculator ... purchased the "PC Connectivity Kit" in
GB> a fairly clueless moment (clueless = not thinking that the included
GB> software might be Windoze-only). 
GB> 
GB> Have found *some* Linux - HP calc connection stuff on SourceForge, but was
GB> wondering if any Debian-ers are successfully shunting stuff back and forth
GB> from Debian to an HP48 or 49. Would be interested in ... how ... :-)

Gosh...I haven't done this in years.  The one thing you do need from
the HP kit is the strange serial cable that plugs into the
calculator.  The HP48, at least, supported both xmodem and Kermit
transfers, so I'd try installing the (non-free) ckermit package and
trying to use that to move files around.  The last time I tried it was 
many years ago on a Slackware machine on the other side of the
country, so... :-)

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Re: ppp mystery

2001-03-14 Thread Gil Elad

Hello again.

1. I tried connecting using Minicom at different speeds ranging from 19 to 
38 kbps without success.

2. RTS/CTS hardware compression is enabled.
3. the characters " \d\c" were already in the chatscript before I started 
fiddling with it.

4. my modem is a USR 56k external faxmodem, not a winmodem.

One thing I did notice when reading the pppconfig man page is that support 
for mschap is not yet available, at least not in the version I'm using, 
which is the one that came on the distribution CDs. I don't know how 
relevant that information is, since everywhere I look in Windows seems to 
indicate that it authenticates itself using PAP, but for some reason I have 
an inherent mistrust in M$. I guess I'm just funny that way :)

Any more ideas and information will be welcome.
Thanks,

Gil Elad



At 09:30 14/03/2001 -0800, you wrote:

You might want to check your ppp options file and make sure you are using
hardware handshaking. The relevant option is crtscts.

Ernest Johanson
Web Systems Administrator
Fuller Theological Seminary


On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Gil Elad wrote:

> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:47:58 +0200
> From: Gil Elad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Jimmy Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: ppp mystery
>
> I've just tried CHAP with no success. The result was exactly the same. I
> probably should have added in my original message that Windows connects
> using PAP.
>
>
>
> At 06:45 14/03/2001 -0700, you wrote:
> >Hello There,
> >
> >Don't know if I can help much. But I was wondering if you have tried
> >using both 'PAP'
> >and 'CHAP' login protocols when you tryo to connect? If you've been
> >trying with PAP,
> >then try CHAP and se what happens.
> >
> >Hope that helps somehow and good luck,
> >
> >Jimmy Richards
> >
> >
> >On 14 Mar 2001 15:28:31 +0200, Gil Elad wrote:
> > > Hi everyone.
> > >
> > > I'm completely new to both Linux and Debian so please forgive my 
stupidity.

> > > I've been trying for the past few weeks to connect to my ISP with no
> > > success using both pppconfig and wvdial.
> > > While both succeed in getting connected at a reasonable speed (49.3 
kbps)
> > > neither can get passed the authentication stage. I seem to get 
gibberish
> > > instead of a login prompt (a series of '[' and 'c' characters 
mostly) and

> > > both programs don't know what to do with it. It seemed to me at first
> > as if
> > > there's too much noise on the line, so I tried to connect at slower
> > speeds,
> > > but that didn't work.
> > > Attached are both the chatscript and the output from plog.
> > > The absolutely most irritating thing about this whole business, 
though, is

> > > that windows connects like clockwork every time at 49.2 kbps.
> > > any help at all will be appreciated.
> > > Thanks
> > >
>




Re: coexistence with Windows 2000

2001-03-14 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 21:37:29 +, Darryl Röthering wrote:
> I can use the lilo.conf file to point to other kernels, but what entries
> do I put there to boot up a Windows session?

You need an entry with other=[partition] and table=[drive].

HTH,
Ray
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Re: alsa & kernel 2.4 on potato

2001-03-14 Thread Christoph Groth
Hello,

Now everything works as it should, my mistake was that I assumed
unstable==woody which is no longer true.  After I've installed the
ALSA packages from sid, compiling the modules worked without the
slightest problems.

I'd like to thank you for your help and apologize for my ignorance.

good Debianing,
Christoph



Re: pon

2001-03-14 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 06:46:52PM +, Robin Gerard wrote:
> Hello,
> I am new on the debian-user list. I run potato since 5 months.
> 
> When I run "pon" I would like the modem to be silent.
> Can someone explain to me how to do that or give me some indications
> where to find the documentation about this matter ? 

In the manual that came with your modem. Look at AT commands and find
the one that controls the speaker (ATL0 IIRC). Then add that to your chat
script -- erm, where was it, /etc/ppp/providers?

Dima
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Re: So, anyone knows wtf Apache.pm is? Was: Re: Testing upgrade and consequences

2001-03-14 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:17:08PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote:
...
> Have you tried running apache (not apache-perl) and loading mod_perl?
> It looks to me like you've got some problem caused by the prel 5.6
> upgrade.

Hmm, interesting... Why tf did I install apache-perl in the first place?

I purged old apache-perl with --force-depends to get a clean slate and 
installed apache. Apacheconfig is still b0rken (there's a full output 
in one of my previous posts if anyone's interested) so I edited config 
files and finally got apache to run.

The next update that runs apacheconfig will presumably break it again,
but that's way better than rebooting your box and finding out that
apache won't start anymore.

Thanks
Dima
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Re: mod-ssl

2001-03-14 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 13:25:09 +1100, John Griffiths wrote:
> #apt-get install libapache-mod-ssl

> what do I need to configure?

That is explained in libapache-mod-ssl-doc, in particular its README.Debian.

HTH,
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coexistence with Windows 2000

2001-03-14 Thread Darryl Röthering

Dear all:

As much as I would like to just wipe out Windows, I have to have it for some 
support purposes (work). However, I would like to repartition and get Debian 
up.


I have been reading and re-reading "tfm," but wonder if anyone has any 
experience on this.


I put up slink with just the floppies on an old throwaway system a year ago, 
but I don't see how I can use lilo to switch between Windows and debian. I 
can use the lilo.conf file to point to other kernels, but what entries do I 
put there to boot up a Windows session?


Could someone with experience explain how this is done? I need a little more 
comfort level on this before I get started.


TIA.

Darryl
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Re: x and console runlevels

2001-03-14 Thread Mario Lombardo
That would be cool.  I couldn't figure it out either, so I just ctrl-c to the 
cli
console and removed xdm with:

apt-get remove xdm

Then I booted again.  X still doesn't work on my laptop.

Mario


Gergely Nagy wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I want to be able to eather boot to the console or xdm (gdm). Under Redhat I
> could do that with runlevels out of the box. How can I set this up under
> Debian?
>
> Greg
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Re: x and console runlevels

2001-03-14 Thread kmself
on Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 09:45:49PM +0100, Gergely Nagy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I want to be able to eather boot to the console or xdm (gdm). Under Redhat I
> could do that with runlevels out of the box. How can I set this up under
> Debian?

runlevels, inittab, update-rc.d, and /etc/init.d/gdm plus links under
/etc/rc?.d

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Re: Testing upgrade and consequences

2001-03-14 Thread Joey Hess
It's like this. You upgraded to a not-yet-released, beta quality version
of debian. You seem to have done some pretty horrendous hacking to work
around dependancy problems, instead of reporting them:

> This I declined; and proceeded to (re-)install packages individually
> from an apt-get --just-print dist-upgrade list.

And things broke. This is a suprise?

This will all get fixed if you file sane bug reports on each item (sane
== including enough information for the developer to reproduce your
problem). If you just rant, you will be ignored.

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Re: IMAP and Exim

2001-03-14 Thread Matthew Sackman
I run a similar set up here.

Basically, what you do is:

i) Install postfix and maildrop. Postfix will replace exim, but is probably
better anyway (more secure) and is pretty straight forward to configure
(default configuration worked here). Maildrop is a mail forwarding agent that
will understand mail-directories rather than the default unix mail box.

ii) Install courier imap. Getting this to work is not straight-forward: you
will need to install the PAM modules and libpam-pwdb and libdb2 and the utils
package. Get the courier imap server howto from your favourite howtos mirror
and read it! You will have to create some new accounts and use some utils to
create a userdb file. One bit that you may find doesn't work is that the howto
suggests using a full [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the entry in the userdb. I found that
this doesn't work - just use your username.

iii) Once you have a working imap server, with your selection of maildirectories
and sub-mail-directories (remember, when you use maildirmake, use the -f option
to specify multiple depth subfolders within your main mail dir - eg
maildirmake -f mywork.commercial /home/vmail/matthew_maildir to create what will
become imap://localhost/INBOX.mywork.commercial). Now create a ~/.forward file
which contains:

bash# cat /home/matthew/.forward 
"| maildrop -d matthew"

(quote marks are needed). This causes postfix to pass all mail for you to 
maildrop,
so create a ~/.mailfilter file with your required filtering options. Remember to
add a default catch-all filter at the end. Maildrop shoves the mail into the 
mail
directories that courier allows you to access through imap. This sounds 
conplicated
but works well and stabily in practice. 

You may have to fiddle with the ownerships of the maildirectories - try making 
yourself
the owner and vmail the group recursivly: 

bash# chown -R username.vmail /home/vmail/username_mail_dir

My ~/.mailfilter looks like this:

bash# cat /home/matthew/.mailfilter 
if(/.*boot.*lists\.debian.*/)
{
to /home/vmail/Maildir-Matthew/.linux.debian-boot
}

if(/.*lists\.debian.*/)
{
to /home/vmail/Maildir-Matthew/.linux.debian
}

if(/.*zap.*/)
{
to /home/vmail/Maildir-Matthew/.riscos.zap
}

if(/.*freshmeat.*/)
{
to /home/vmail/Maildir-Matthew/.linux.news
}

if(1)
{
to /home/vmail/Maildir-Matthew
}

Hope this helps.

Matthew

On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 10:57:19PM -0300, Carlos Laviola wrote:
> 
> On 14-Mar-2001 John M. wrote:
> > 
> > I want to set up an IMAP server, but I don't know what package to get.  I
> > currently have Exim working great, it sends and receives mail, but I need
> > access to this mail from home and from several machines, so I don't want
> > to use POP, but IMAP seems to be just what I'm looking for.  I'm using
> > woody and I looked at the available IMAP packages, but it just got me
> > confused.  Could someone please tell me what package I can use with Exim
> > and how I would configure it.
> 
> >From what I saw skimming thru apt-cache, you can install task-imap, or
> cyrius-imapd. For information on configuration and exim compatibility, refer 
> to
> the programs' own documentation (sorry, I do not run either of them).
> 
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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Re: qmail+vpopmail[Unable_to_chdir_to_maildir._]!;)

2001-03-14 Thread Matteo S.
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 09:33:30PM -0800, Nate Amsden wrote:
> 
> sounds like they are not. while i haven't tried qmail on debian i would check
> to be sure the directories are writable by the group qmail and just to
> be safe the user qmailq(assuming your using normal qmail usernames ..). in
> situations like this i like to su to the user(s) in question and try it
> the old fashioned way (using touch and stuff) to be sure the user can
> write to the dir.
i tryied to su qmailq and co;) and they have right to write in domains dir.
I now think is a startup/script configuration problem.

now the variable alias_empty is set 
alias_empty="./Maildir/"   

and i'm not sure that is right...  the problem is near here

thanks;)

Matteo

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Re: qmail+vpopmail[Unable_to_chdir_to_maildir._]!;)

2001-03-14 Thread Matteo S.
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 09:33:30PM -0800, Nate Amsden wrote:
> 
> sounds like they are not. while i haven't tried qmail on debian i would check
> to be sure the directories are writable by the group qmail and just to
> be safe the user qmailq(assuming your using normal qmail usernames ..). in
> situations like this i like to su to the user(s) in question and try it
> the old fashioned way (using touch and stuff) to be sure the user can
> write to the dir.
i tryied to su qmailq and co;) and they have right to write in domains dir.
I now think is a startup/script configuration problem.

now the variable alias_empty is set 
alias_empty="./Maildir/"   

and i'm not sure that is right...  the problem is near here

thanks;)

Matteo

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pon

2001-03-14 Thread Robin Gerard
Hello,
I am new on the debian-user list. I run potato since 5 months.

When I run "pon" I would like the modem to be silent.
Can someone explain to me how to do that or give me some indications
where to find the documentation about this matter ? 
Thanks in advance for your reply.
-- 
 Gerard 
   



x and console runlevels

2001-03-14 Thread Gergely Nagy
Hi!

I want to be able to eather boot to the console or xdm (gdm). Under Redhat I
could do that with runlevels out of the box. How can I set this up under
Debian?

Greg



SBLIVE! weird stuff.. anyone got it working?

2001-03-14 Thread Vlad
Re,

I've never had problem setting up my sblive.. now i've recompiled 2.2.18 
kernel with sblive support.. all went smoothly, dmesg shows:

Creative EMU10K1 PCI Audio Driver, version 0.7, 13:38:42 Mar 14 2001
emu10k1: EMU10K1 rev 7 model 0x8027 found, IO at 0xb800-0xb81f, IRQ 9

when i load xmms.. it refuses to play: 

** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): No such 
device

well, ls -la shows:

crw-rw1 root audio 14,   3 Nov 30 10:23 /dev/dsp

i've tried "MAKEDEV audio", but to no avail. any ideas?



need help with dialup mail config

2001-03-14 Thread Gergely Nagy
Hi!

I need help with:

I want to periodically (say every 10 minutes) check mail in a multidrop POP3
account over a dialup line, download them, and filter them to different mail
accounts. (It's a group mail account: all mail for a domain is being poured
in one POP3 mailbox.)

I checked some docs, and got lost. A book of mine suggests using diald, but
that would mean dial on demand. I understand diald needs its own connection
files wich seems a waste after finally setting up a working set of pon /
poff :)

BTW the incoming mail should be processed by a "Delivered-To" field. Can
fethcmail handle that, or do I need procmail?

So.

First I need help with periodically connecting and then retrieving. Well,
not totally periodically, only during office hours...

Then I'd like to distribute mail according to the "Delivered-To" field

hope you can help me,
Greg



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2001-03-14 Thread Moosman
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Re: So, anyone knows wtf Apache.pm is? Was: Re: Testing upgrade and consequences

2001-03-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 01:23:02PM -0600, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
> Ok, I'm not in the mood for flamefests today so here's a serious question:
> 
> apache here fails to start with (this is from error.log)
> 
> [Wed Mar 14 12:36:15 2001] [warn] pid file /var/run/apache.pid overwritten -- 
> Unclean shutdown of previous Apache run?
> Apache.pm failed to load!.
> 
> Ok, here's the list of Apache.pm's I have:
> 
> odyssey:/# odyssey:/var/log/apache# grep Apache.pm /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/apache-perl.list:/usr/lib/perl5/5.005/i386-linux/Bundle/Apache.pm
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/apache-perl.list:/usr/lib/perl5/5.005/i386-linux/Apache.pm
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/perl-modules.list:/usr/share/perl/5.6.0/CGI/Apache.pm
> 
> Questions:
> 
> 1. which of these fails to load?
> 2. where is that configured?
> 3. where is that documented? (I've already seen /usr/doc/apache-perl thank 
> you)

/usr/share/doc/apache-perl is the documentation for the apache-perl
package (apache with perl linked in, not as a module).

Have you tried running apache (not apache-perl) and loading mod_perl?
It looks to me like you've got some problem caused by the prel 5.6
upgrade.

I'll see if apache + mod_perl works here and report back.

Luck,

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Re: Books

2001-03-14 Thread Klaus Stylianos Ade Johnstad
I use this list as my "book". Found answers to all my problems simply by
using the search function. It's quick, and right to the point, and very
cheap.
Klaus

On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, C Mead wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Just switched from RH but I'm not new to linux so i don't really need a
> install guide. Was hoping one of you could suggest some up to date Debian
> specific literature. One that would explain the nuances of Debian. I have
> checked the list of books on the recommended on the site but they seem a
> little dated.
>
> Any help would be appreciated even tasty URL's would be great!
>
> CM
>
> BTW apt-get rocks... : P
>
>
>
>
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grip cddb config

2001-03-14 Thread Lewis, James M.
Does anyone have a grip configuration for cddb that works?
xmcd works but I can't seem to figure out exactly what I
have to put into grip to make that one work.

tia
jim



recurring problem w/ installing packages

2001-03-14 Thread Mario Lombardo
[I didn't confirm before I sent this last time, so I don't know if it
was accepted.  Sorry for duplications]

A BWNFSd failure comes up with every package I try to install or
remove--even with installing itself.  I don't know what BWNFSd has to do
with
anything other than itself and its dependencies.  I'm at a stand-still. 
Thanks in advance, folks!  This clip was me trying to install gpm, but
as I said before, it's with any package with dselect or apt or whatever.

[copy-n-paste]
Reading Package Lists...
Building Dependency Tree...
Sorry, gpm is already the newest version
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
1 packages not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
Setting up bwnfsd (2.3-3) ...
Starting BWNFS daemon:
Starting BWNFS daemon: clntupd_create: RPC: Program not registered
dpkg: error processing bwnfsd (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 255
Errors were encountered while processing:
 bwnfsd
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

Thank you,
Mario Lombardo



So, anyone knows wtf Apache.pm is? Was: Re: Testing upgrade and consequences

2001-03-14 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
Ok, I'm not in the mood for flamefests today so here's a serious question:

apache here fails to start with (this is from error.log)

[Wed Mar 14 12:36:15 2001] [warn] pid file /var/run/apache.pid overwritten -- 
Unclean shutdown of previous Apache run?
Apache.pm failed to load!.

Ok, here's the list of Apache.pm's I have:

odyssey:/# odyssey:/var/log/apache# grep Apache.pm /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list
/var/lib/dpkg/info/apache-perl.list:/usr/lib/perl5/5.005/i386-linux/Bundle/Apache.pm
/var/lib/dpkg/info/apache-perl.list:/usr/lib/perl5/5.005/i386-linux/Apache.pm
/var/lib/dpkg/info/perl-modules.list:/usr/share/perl/5.6.0/CGI/Apache.pm

Questions:

1. which of these fails to load?
2. where is that configured?
3. where is that documented? (I've already seen /usr/doc/apache-perl thank you)

TIA
Dima
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fetchmail-ssl

2001-03-14 Thread Rob VanFleet
Is there any special things one needs to do to get fetchmail-ssl working
correctly other than putting '--ssl' in the OPTIONS section of
/etc/default/fetchmail?  I'm trying to connect to my mail server which
is running a ssl encrypted imap daemon.  This is a new change, so I'm
not at all familiar with the specifics of what I need to do.

-Rob



Re: Testing upgrade and consequences

2001-03-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 05:40:29PM +, Martin WHEELER wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> 
> > I've had to suffer this one - providing telephone support and advice over
> > a week plus to an old and valued friend :) [Hi Martin :) ]
> 
> [Hi, Andy!  Just about to put this one to the list but you beat me to
> it.]
> 
> 

[ much ranting ]

> I CANNOT recommend this type of upgrade to any of my clients.

[ more ranting ]

_Why_ would you ever suggest to a client that they upgrade to testing?
Testing and unstable are intended to be run by people who know what
they are doing.  It sounds like most of your clients don't qualify.

It sounds like you got bit by some perl dependency screwup.  If I were
you I would have looked at "remove 402 packages" and said "Hmm, think
I'll wait on this a bit".

As far as the apache configs being overwritten ... I think we are
still missing some info here.  Apache upgrades have always worked
flawlessly here.  It sounds to my like you had apache-perl installed,
purged it (wiping out your configs - I think I saw this happen once
and swore of apache-perl in favor of apache + mod_perl).  Then apache
was installed, no configs were present so it installed the default
bofh configs.  I won't comment on the security issues presented by the
old config style vs. the new; it's your server. (I can't resist ... I
like the new configs.  They make sense, but then again I'm a paranoid
person).

Cheers,

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Re: linux card

2001-03-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 08:54:24AM -0600, Matt Fair wrote:
> Hello,
> I'm not sure if this had gone through last time I submitted this.
> I need to create a card that when scanned in a credit card scanner it
> connects to my server via the phone line.

It did go through both times.  It still doesn't have anything to do
with Debian GNU/Linux.

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Re: KDE for woody

2001-03-14 Thread Damien GUIHAL
Le Mercredi 14 Mars 2001 20:02, Gudmundur Erlingsson a écrit :
> I haven't been able to connect to the kde.tdyc.com server for the last two
> days (the connection always times out), so I was wondering if there was a
> mirror site available?
>
> Gudmundur
>
> On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 09:01:21PM +0800, #KUNDAN KUMAR# wrote:
> > kde2.1 debs can be have from
> >
> > deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato main crypto optional
> > deb ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde potato main crypto optional
> >
> > please add them in your /etc/apt/sources.list..
> >
> > regards,
> > Kundan
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sven Gaerner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 7:29 PM
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: KDE for woody
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > where do I find KDE2 DEBs for woody?
> >
> > I only have some kde-i18n DEBs in my packages list but not the
> > base packages and libs that I need.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Bye,
> >
> > Sven
> >
> >
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Try these :

deb ftp://planetmirror.com/pub/debian-kde stable crypto main optional
deb-src ftp://planetmirror.com/pub/debian-kde stable crypto main optional



ldconfig, again

2001-03-14 Thread Jim Bowering
Carlos Laviola, thank you for your suggestion.  Unfortunately, any permutation
of dpkg --force that I try returns the error about not finding ldconfig.
Apparently, I can't install ldconfig without having ldconfig.

Also, I can't find libc6 in source, so I can't try it that way.

Am I stuck?

-- 
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Re: email notification of new debian packages

2001-03-14 Thread Colin Watson
andrea gelmini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 09:26:37AM +, Colin Watson wrote:
>> Sorry - but isn't that called debian-devel-changes, only less frequent?
>well, no.
>what i need is a way to see new packages, only them.

Ah, right, I misunderstood. I just use dselect instead, which tells me
about them :) But if you don't use that then there's probably no easy
way apart from a mailing list.

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Re: man dosent display X11 pages after they are installed

2001-03-14 Thread Colin Watson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>i have downloaded xmanpages.deb and installation went just fine. but if
>i type say
>man XOpenDisplay
>it just pauses, when i push CTRL-C it then says that it cant  remove a
>file in /tmp.
>
>is there some kind of man data base that has to be told where to find
>the files or what ?

Wait and it will eventually work; man is just slow at picking up newly
installed man pages. When I get a chance I'll trace it and try to figure
out exactly why. The /tmp message is a bug, fixed in unstable.

There is indeed a database; 'mandb' updates it. That's unlikely to be
any faster than waiting for man to get round to things, however. :(

-- 
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: linux card

2001-03-14 Thread D-Man
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 12:15:26PM -0500, Mike Dresser wrote:
| brian moore wrote:
| 
| > And... then you may as well go to Radio Schlock and get one of those
| > silly CueCat scanners.  Throw away the software without looking at it,
| > so you don't have to accept their silly terms Then you have a free
| > barcode reader.  See .sig :)
| 

I always wondered what that weird looking sig was supposed to mean
;-). 

| Aye, except that he might want a _working_ scanner.  I've got one of
| them at home, and the recognition... well...  it'd be faster to type
| the numbers in, than repeatedly scan the barcode, praying it'll read
| this time.  I've worked with proper scanners, there's a _big_
| difference.

Yeah.  My part-time job is in the video department of a fairly large
grocery store.  The scanners aren't CueCat, but they are aging and
often don't work quite right.  It's really a pain when it gets a bit
or two off and give a different number.  Or just ignores the first
couple of decimal digits in the code.  The "real" scanners are on the
cash registers at the front end.  I haven't worked front-end, but they
don't have nearly as much trouble as video has.

-D



Re: Testing upgrade and consequences

2001-03-14 Thread Martin WHEELER
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:

> I've had to suffer this one - providing telephone support and advice over
> a week plus to an old and valued friend :) [Hi Martin :) ]

[Hi, Andy!  Just about to put this one to the list but you beat me to
it.]



>   He upgraded
> from a Potato 2.2r2 system to current "testing" and most things broke in 
> serious
> ways, such that he swears he will never again move from stable releases.

And *how*.

NEVER again.  (Certainly not for client-critical systems.)

System (was) Debian 2.2r2 + proposed-updates + kde.tdyc -- with A LOT of
other stuff added.  System was used to demo debian to clients -- if
client wanted exim, then exim had to be installed and work; if client
wanted sendmail, then sendmail had to be installed and had to work --
etc.  The system was also set up as a full SGML/XML editing environment
(heavy stuff -- EAD and TEI, with a full set of 150+ DTDs).  In short, a
fully-fleshed-out system for all the different types of work done by
any of my clients (document engineering + website development).
[On a Celeron 466 with 64M, 4G of hard-disk space, and a Rage128/16M
video card + pnp modem card.  Typical client kit.]

Essentials on system were: apache; perl; php; mysql; postgresql; mailman
-- anything you might find on a commercial e-site (Java, Chilisoft ASP,
etc) -- also StarOffice, WordPerfect 8 and
Netscape/Opera/Amaya/Arena/Mozilla/Chimera/lynx/links/w3m -- plus the
inevitable emacs/xemacs, and various HTML/XML-compatible editors.
Lots of perl and php scripts for training/demo purposes.

On attempting upgrade to testing, first thing I was presented with was a
decision to >>remove<< 402 Mb of system files (452 packages).

Oh.

This I declined; and proceeded to (re-)install packages individually
from an apt-get --just-print dist-upgrade list.

Things started to break/dependency-loop almost immediately.
(The persistent offenders I remember most at this stage are exmh and
kdeadmin.)  The dependency circus engendered was horrendous.

Eventually (after 3/4 days) I got down to just 160 packages left to
upgrade -- but so much was already broken that I just left the box
upgrading by itself all night.

Bad move.

Everything that was not "Debian-approved" got blown away.  (E.g.
StarOffice; Netscape [4.76 from CD-rom, not download]; asWedit; etc.)
In all, I lost 20% of my installed system software.  Total bummer.
(I run lots of non-free stuff on my Debian systems.  I have no
ideological problems with this.)

I was no longer able to go online.  (diald had been installed -- without
asking -- on top of pppd.)

> Mailman configuration broke
-- due to fact that ALL apache confiiguration files/directories were
simply annihilated.  Again -- no warning; no explanation.

> Pine broke
-- discovered that something had reconfigured my smtp server (wasn't
asked; wasn't warned -- just another example of the "Debian-disapproved
-- therefore OK to blow away" syndrome experienced throughout this
whole attempt to upgrade.)

> Mutt works, but is not his preferred option.
Yeah -- but it's "Debian-approved", innit?

> Exim configuration didn't, such that he reverted to smail.
-- conflicted with mailman -- not flagged.

>  He won't believe me
> when I say that Exim works fine.

[Not for me it bloody well doesn't.  Not after *this* upgrade.]

> Most seriously of all - "Apache in Debian is seriously broken"
>
> There may be a dependency loop on apache-perl which is inappropriate.

This is the real crux of the matter.
I CANNOT recommend this type of upgrade to any of my clients.
My existing apache configuration was totally wiped out.
Conflicting and inconsistent dependencies between apache and apache-perl
prevented re-installation.
(I eventually managed it by forcing something -- can't remember what,
now.  I ended up with apache-ssl; and a version of apache-perl that
still can't be purged.)
This would be instant death to any of the clients I deal with -- I am
not surprised that some of them ban debian entirely.

> The default configuration of apache has changed drastically between Potato
> and testing.

There was obsolutely NO warning given that existing apache configuration
files AND directories (including error log directories) would be
obliterated.  (I lost everything -- *including* my safe backups of all
configuration files) when apache was upgraded.
>> The infuriating thing is that I didn't even get an upgrade to Apache
1.3.12 -- which every other distribution has been supplying since
mid-2000 -- I got the same old 1.3.9, but this time with a single
httpd.conf in place of the previous 3 separate files. <<

None of my scripting examples worked -- I had to spend three days
reconfiguring the whole website.  Not funny.

> The version in testing is locked down solidly - everything is
> denied unless explicitly allowed with apache directives.  This is at odds with
> the behaviour up to and including potato, which was open.  Apache stomped over
> his httpd.conf files on upgrade and l

modules.conf aliases

2001-03-14 Thread Adam J. Henry
I'm curious to know how one defines new aliases in '/etc/modutils/'. In
the past when the kernel fails to load a module that is requested, a
message will appear in the system log.  I am not receiving any such
notification.

I assume that the aliases the kernel looks for are kept somewhere by
the kernel, and would like to know how to extract such information.
As an example, I notice that the normal convention is to use "alias
[kernel_symbol] [module_for_modprobe]", but how does one know what
to use when the module does not have major/minor numbers (as with the
netfilter modules)?

I would like to get this information, as I need it, on my own.
Unfortunately I don't know where to look.

Thank you all for taking the time to read this.  I hope I can find an
answer to such a basic question of module definition and operation.

-- 
Adam J. Henry  
   
--
"The essence of cowardice is not acknowledging the reality
 of fear."
-- Trungpa (Shambhala)



Re: alsa & kernel 2.4 on potato

2001-03-14 Thread Christoph Groth
Kenward Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > But potato alsa-source doesn't seem to work with kernel 2.4.  Should I

> Where do you run into trouble?

First I tried alsa-source 0.4.1i-5 from potato, woody has exactly the
same package, but there is also an alsa-source-0.4 package, which for
some mysterious reason doesn't appear in woody's main
Packages.gz. (Does someone know why?).

So now I have alsa-source-0.4 alsaconf-0.4 alsa-utils-0.4 libasound0.4
and alsa-base installed.  I unpack alsa-source-0.4.tar.gz to a
directory, set MODULE_LOC to the appropriate path and execute

fakeroot make-kpkg --revision mother.3 modules_image

from the kernel 2.4.2 source directory.  This used to work with kernel
2.2.17 but now the build aborts, these are some of its last messages:

gcc   -DALSA_BUILD -O2 -m486 -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 
-malign-functions=2 -DCPU=686 -DLINUX -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes 
-fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -I/usr/local/src/cwg/kernel-source-2.4.2/include 
-I.. -c -o info.o info.c
info.c:558: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
info.c:559: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
info.c:560: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
info.c:562: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
info.c:563: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
info.c:564: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
info.c:565: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
info.c:567: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
info.c:577: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
info.c:594: warning: excess elements in struct initializer
info.c:594: warning: (near initialization for `snd_info_entry_inode_operations')
info.c:599: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
info.c:616: warning: excess elements in struct initializer
info.c:616: warning: (near initialization for 
`snd_info_device_inode_operations')
info.c: In function `snd_info_card_followlink':
info.c:655: warning: implicit declaration of function `lookup_dentry'
info.c:655: warning: return makes pointer from integer without a cast
info.c: At top level:
info.c:674: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
info.c:684: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
info.c:685: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
info.c:691: warning: excess elements in struct initializer
info.c:691: warning: (near initialization for 
`snd_info_card_link_inode_operations')
info.c: In function `snd_info_card_register':
info.c:784: structure has no member named `ops'
info.c: In function `snd_info_create_device':
info.c:954: structure has no member named `ops'
info.c: In function `snd_info_register':
info.c:1057: structure has no member named `ops'
make[4]: *** [info.o] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/cwg/modules/alsa-driver-0.4/kernel'
make[3]: *** [compile] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/cwg/modules/alsa-driver-0.4'
make[2]: *** [install-modules] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/cwg/modules/alsa-driver-0.4'
make[1]: *** [kdist_image] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/cwg/modules/alsa-driver-0.4'
Module /usr/local/src/cwg/modules/alsa-driver-0.4 failed.


> I've yet to encounter problems with alsa on
> the 2.4.x kernels (including 2.4.2), but I track unstable.  Perhaps you
> should try the unstable package? 

I tried both.
p
Did anyone succeed compiling alsa-source with kernel 2.4?  What am I
doing wrong?

Thank you in advance for your time,
Christoph



recurring problem w/ installing packages

2001-03-14 Thread Mario Lombardo
A BWNFSd failure comes up with every package I try to install or
remove--even with itself.  I don't know what BWNFSd has to do with
anything other than itself and its dependencies.  I'd love to use
Debian, but right now, I'm at a stand-still.  Thanks in advance, folks!
This clip was me trying to install gpm, but as I said before, it's with
any package with dselect or apt or whatever.

[copy-n-paste]
Reading Package Lists...
Building Dependency Tree...
Sorry, gpm is already the newest version
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
1 packages not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
Setting up bwnfsd (2.3-3) ...
Starting BWNFS daemon:
Starting BWNFS daemon: clntupd_create: RPC: Program not registered
dpkg: error processing bwnfsd (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 255
Errors were encountered while processing:
 bwnfsd
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

Thank you,
Mario Lombardo



Re: visudo not vi?

2001-03-14 Thread Justin B Rye
Aaron Lehmann wrote:
> Using a non-vi-compatable editor on boot disks is a hanging offense
> that debian will pay for once sysadmins try to install Debian but
> realize they have better things to do than learn a whimpy editor. It
> would be excusable if it was emacs-compatable, but it's not. e3
> supports vi, emacs, wordstar, AND pico bindings. It just depends
> whether you type vi, emacs, or pico to start it.
> 
> Personally I would perfer ed to nano, since it is traditional and more
> people know how to use it.

The great Vi/Emacs Wars are irrelevant to this issue: the people
encountering ae for the first time aren't looking for a crash course
in your favourite coding utility, they need an instantly usable text
editor, and one that's perfectly accessible to newbies who have
never seen anything better than Wordpad.

Nano-tiny scores highly on this count, since it is a functional
bonsai-scale editor any fool can pick up on their first encounter -
no "learning" is necessary (or worthwhile, unless they're going to
be keeping it as the only editor on the system). 

But ae will do.  Just about.
-- 
Justin B Rye - writing (in jed) from but not for Datacash Ltd



Re: KDE for woody

2001-03-14 Thread Gudmundur Erlingsson
I haven't been able to connect to the kde.tdyc.com server for the last two
days (the connection always times out), so I was wondering if there was a mirror
site available?

Gudmundur

On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 09:01:21PM +0800, #KUNDAN KUMAR# wrote:
> kde2.1 debs can be have from
> 
> deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato main crypto optional
> deb ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde potato main crypto optional
> 
> please add them in your /etc/apt/sources.list..
> 
> regards,
> Kundan
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Sven Gaerner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 7:29 PM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: KDE for woody
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> where do I find KDE2 DEBs for woody?
> 
> I only have some kde-i18n DEBs in my packages list but not the
> base packages and libs that I need.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Bye,
> 
> Sven
> 
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some usefull tip for the installation of Debian 2.2v2

2001-03-14 Thread Sergio Andreozzi
I want to install on my PC Debian Linux. I need the Xfree86 4 because my
video card is based on intel 82815. I also would like to install Ximian
Gnome 1.2

I tried to do that in the following way:

1. base system installation from Debian Potato

2. packages installation from dselect using http connection on the following
URL

ftp.fi.debian.org/debian stable
ftp.fi.debian.org/debian-non-US stable

ftp.fi.debian.org/debian testing
ftp.fi.debian.org/debian-non-US testing

ftp.fi.debian.org/ximian/distributions/debian
ftp.fi.debian.org/debian dists/proposed-updates/

Is this a good way to have a stable, but update system?
If not, could you suggest me the right way to have Xfree86 updated to
release n.4 and Ximian Gnome 1.2?


Thanks

Sergio Andreozzi



Re: ppp mystery (fwd)

2001-03-14 Thread Ernest Johanson
Sorry for the earlier message with a null body. Here's what I intended to
post. 

You might want to check your ppp options file and make sure you are using
hardware handshaking. The relevant option is crtscts.

Ernest Johanson
Web Systems Administrator
Fuller Theological Seminary


On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Gil Elad wrote:

> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:47:58 +0200
> From: Gil Elad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Jimmy Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: ppp mystery
> 
> I've just tried CHAP with no success. The result was exactly the same. I 
> probably should have added in my original message that Windows connects 
> using PAP.
> 
> 
> 
> At 06:45 14/03/2001 -0700, you wrote:
> >Hello There,
> >
> >Don't know if I can help much. But I was wondering if you have tried
> >using both 'PAP'
> >and 'CHAP' login protocols when you tryo to connect? If you've been
> >trying with PAP,
> >then try CHAP and se what happens.
> >
> >Hope that helps somehow and good luck,
> >
> >Jimmy Richards
> >
> >
> >On 14 Mar 2001 15:28:31 +0200, Gil Elad wrote:
> > > Hi everyone.
> > >
> > > I'm completely new to both Linux and Debian so please forgive my 
> > > stupidity.
> > > I've been trying for the past few weeks to connect to my ISP with no
> > > success using both pppconfig and wvdial.
> > > While both succeed in getting connected at a reasonable speed (49.3 kbps)
> > > neither can get passed the authentication stage. I seem to get gibberish
> > > instead of a login prompt (a series of '[' and 'c' characters mostly) and
> > > both programs don't know what to do with it. It seemed to me at first 
> > as if
> > > there's too much noise on the line, so I tried to connect at slower 
> > speeds,
> > > but that didn't work.
> > > Attached are both the chatscript and the output from plog.
> > > The absolutely most irritating thing about this whole business, though, is
> > > that windows connects like clockwork every time at 49.2 kbps.
> > > any help at all will be appreciated.
> > > Thanks
> > >
> 




question about using groff to format ASCII text

2001-03-14 Thread idalton

I need to convert an ASCII text document to dvi, and I need to make the
finished document double spaced with 12-point font. I need to do so
without embedding any formatting directives in the ASCII document.

The man pages and documentation for troff and groff (which I would like
to use) are not very helpful in this respect.

-- Ferret



RE: Books

2001-03-14 Thread Holp, John Mr.
Not too many weeks ago I was looking for the same thing.  I ended up with
the book Debina GNU/Linux 2.1 Unleashed.  It does have 1120 pages in it but
as you indicate it is a little outdated.  I run Debian 2.2.17 here in my
office and it seems to serve okay in that capacity.

The book seems to serve my purposes, Chapter 10 consists of 30 pages
relative to Debina's Package Management System which is the subject I am
studying.

The CD on the back inside cover is for Debina 2.1 and oddly enough mine did
not work.  Others indicated that they had the same problem.  I got the
regular distribution from cheap bytes - 3 CDs for pocket change.

Good Luck,

John


-Original Message-
From: Mike Millner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 11:56 AM
To: C Mead; 
Subject: Re: Books


Go to www.fatbrain.com and search on Debian. There is a book due to be
published this month. I don't know if its good but I have high hopes that it
will be good for just the exact things you talked about.

Hope this helps,
Mike
- Original Message -
From: "C Mead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 9:46 AM
Subject: Books


> Hi all,
>
> Just switched from RH but I'm not new to linux so i don't really need a
> install guide. Was hoping one of you could suggest some up to date Debian
> specific literature. One that would explain the nuances of Debian. I have
> checked the list of books on the recommended on the site but they seem a
> little dated.
>
> Any help would be appreciated even tasty URL's would be great!
>
> CM
>
> BTW apt-get rocks... : P
>
>
>
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Re: Use different cache dir for apt-get dist-upgrade

2001-03-14 Thread Rogelio E. Castillo Haro
Hi,
I want to upgrade my potato to sid is that right?
What should I do? Which are the source.lists lines or where may I found it?

TIA

--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Vive libre o muere!!!
Linux 2001 :)





Re: A SSH question.

2001-03-14 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 10:05:40AM -0700, Ray Percival wrote:
> I understand that this is not a Debian specific question but I'm 
> hoping someone out there will be kind and explain this one in 
> short easy to understand words. :) I'm trying to ssh into my 
> Debian box on a DSL line setting behind a floppyfw based firewall. 
> When I am at home I can SSH into that box from my Wife's winders 
> box using Terraterm witht he ttssh stuff. Of course this is not 
> going through the firewall but I know that ssh works. Now on the 
> box at my house if I do this ssh -L 9000:myinternetaddress:22 
> myinternaladdress It connects to WinterMute (My Debian box) 
> nicely. AFAIK at that point it is going through the floppyfw based 
> firewall to connect. Would that be right or do I need to do 
> something else to test this. 

That isn't very clear from your description. If you have a shell account
at your ISP, at work or whatever -- as long as it's outside your firewall
-- try telnetting to your ssh server port 22 from there. Or use a web-based
port scanner ( http://grc.com , http://crypto.yashy.com ) and see if port 
22 is open.

> Now when I come to work and try to do 
> Terraterm with the same command line options it fails. Does anyone 
> know why or what I'm doing wrong. Thanks. 

If it's not the firewall, check hosts.allow/hosts.deny (assuming your ssh
is compiled with tcp-wrappers), xinetd.conf if you're running xinet...
I'll need more details to give you a better answer.

HTH
Dima
-- 
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