Building from source

2001-05-02 Thread Sunil Thomas Thonikuzhiyil
 Hello
   I have downloaded 
 somepackage..diff.gz
 somepackage.dsc
 somepackage.orig.tar.gz
  from incoming. Presently I have a potato  installation
  How do I make a deb file from the above
  TIA
  sunil 



Re: HP 1220C troubles cont.'d

2001-05-02 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: HP 1220C troubles  cont.'d
Date: Wed, May 02, 2001 at 02:22:55PM +

In reply to:K. Matthew Victor

Quoting K. Matthew Victor([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> Okay, I"ve now gotten the beast to print garbled trash and consume large 
> stacks of paper!!
> Progress, sort of.
> So, now to try to find a driver that will give at least a minor amount of 
> utility.   Thanks, Matt

apt-get install magicfilter
I don't know if it has a driver for that printer but it _does_ have a
bunch of HP drivers available.

-- 
Of course I know how to copy disks. Where's the xerox machine?
___



Re: debian-user-digest Digest V101 #529

2001-05-02 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: Re: debian-user-digest Digest V101 #529
Date: Wed, May 02, 2001 at 12:37:43PM +

In reply to:K. Matthew Victor

Quoting K. Matthew Victor([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> >
> 
> Thank you for the help, thus far no joy!
> Results from the suggested commands:
> $  whereis lpd
> lpd: /usr/sbin/lpd
> su  
  ^^^ why?
> # ps -aux |grep lpd
   ^ old syntax, not required anymore
> Bad syntax, perhaps a bogus'-'
> root 218  0.0  0.1  1212   548  ?   SMay01  0:00  [lpd]
> matthew  3565  0.0  0.1   1112   444 pts/0   S   12:02   0:00  grep  lpd

I don't think it is running. Here is what I get (as a user OR as root)
VT5 wtopa-Debian:~$ ps aux |grep lpd
root   374  0.0  0.0  1352   32 ?SApr29   0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd
wtopa14293  0.0  0.3  1112  444 tty5 S20:17   0:00 grep lpd


> 
> It looks to be running, however, I issued the restart command:
> storm:/home/matthew#  /etc/init.d/lpd restart
> Stopping printer spooler: lpd not running.
> Starting printer spooler: lpr.
> #man lpc  -t |lpr
> lpr: connect: Connection refused
> jobs queued, but cannot start daemon
> # man lpc |lpr
> same return as above, also as normal user. This command sequence used to 
> work, untill yesterday when this fun began.
> Triying to print from inside an app. (Netscape) does not result in output to 
> the printer.
> Is it possible to use apt to reinstall the stuff that seems broken? TIA, Matt.

Yes sure.  do
apt-get remove lpr  ( or --purge remove lpr to remove all files &
dirs)

then  apt-get install lpr

Could it be that you messed with the file permissions in
/var/spool/lpd?  
mine are 
ls -l /var/spool/lpdowner & group are lp permissions drwxrwsr-x
ls -l /var/spool/lpf/lp  same as above

:-) HTH, YMMV, HAND :-)
  
-- 
What boots up must come down.
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MSI K7 MASTER MS-6341 MOTHERBOARD

2001-05-02 Thread Landon Hendee

(please 'CC' me your replies. Thanks. This is also my first
posting to any debian.org lists, so if I'm posting to the wrong
group, etc. please let me know. I hope the cross-post is ok, also.)


I'm buying a motherboard soon and want to know if this one is
compatible with Debian.  (Info and specs are at bottom.)

Has anyone tried this board yet? I would like to hear some
feedback about how this board works in particular and also on
whether the chip sets on this board are compatible with
debian/Linux. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Going by all the reviews that I've read, this board looks like a
real "BAD ASS" so I hope and pray that it will work ok.

Could someone recommend a really good CPU and chip set cooler?

I would be VERY interested in finding a good, reliable and CHEAP
place to purchase this board as well as the parts listed below:

AMD ATHLON "C" 1.33G CPU
MICRON/CRUCIAL PC2100 DDR-SDRAM

I haven't really found a cheap place to buy parts from yet.

The cheapest places that I have found so far are on
http://www.pricewatch.com ... These prices *seem* reasonable, but
I was told on IRC that it was still high. The board retails for
around $200 I think.

An incredibly over clocked system was made by tomshardware.com
using this board with a special liquid cooled CPU cooler.

For some background info on the board I have included the
following quote from http://www.chip-online.com

 BEGIN QUOTE 

Test winner: MSI K7 Master (for DDR-RAM)

  The MSI K7 Master with AMD 760 chip set is basically well-
  enough
  equipped to use in servers. The test results leave little doubt
  of this, and in the areas of stability and compatibility, it
  was the only board which didn't allow itself to make even the
  slightest slip-up.

  But, instead of making this board to use in servers, they
  designed it for use in PCs, so the K7 Master can run through
  its paces even for us mortals. We feel the board would easily
  fit into production mastering or also internet/web service, for
  example. A similar quality is noticed in the board's layout and
  description. You don't have to spend much time looking for the
  well-labelled plug-ins or jumpers, for example. Unique so far:
  the K7 Master is currently the only board that really allows
  over clocking of both the CPU-multiplier as well as the FSB.

MOTHERBOARD SPECS FOR:
MSI K7 MASTER MS-6341 MOTHERBOARD AND OPTIONAL ONBOARD UW160-SCSI

  Chip set:  AMD 760
  North bridge:  AMD 761
  South bridge:  VIA VT82C686B
Memory technology:  [PC2100] DDR-SDRAM
  BIOS-source:  Award
BIOS-Date:  01.04.01


  End Quote from http://www.chip-online.com  


Related links:

Overclocking the above board
http://www4.tomshardware.com/mainboard/00q4/001030/index.html

liquid cooled CPU cooler (vapochill)
http://www4.tomshardware.com/cpu/00q4/001221/index.html

AMD 760 chip set info
http://www4.tomshardware.com/mainboard/00q4/001030/index.html








samba setup gaflooey

2001-05-02 Thread will trillich
now that apple-communications are all lovely (thanks to ethan and
his quickie fix) i though samba would be a breeze.

silly me.

after 24 hours, my uptime was OVER FIVE, and tcpd was consuming
98% of cpu time (according to 'top')..
 9869 ?R  0:01  \_ tcpd /usr/sbin/nmbd -a
 8493 ?R539:49  \_ tcpd /usr/sbin/smbd
 9205 ?R119:45  \_ tcpd /usr/sbin/smbd
 9276 ?R106:22  \_ tcpd /usr/sbin/smbd

aside from not knowing where to go to tell windows 98 that
there's a mountable volume Out There on the network neighborhood,
how can i reinstall samba on my debian machine and tame it so it
leaves me some cpu cycles to work with?

i know there are documents -- like the library of congress
contains books. please point, i'll go.

-- 
DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #29 from Will Trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:
Console GIBBERISH? Suddenly you're seeing Russian or Korean or
box-like text no your console or xterm (or rxvt) -- probably
after viewing a binary file, right? :) Enter "reset" at the
command line, or try embedding a control-O (letter oh) into
your command-line prompt string:
export PS1='[EMAIL PROTECTED]: \w$ '

Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ...



Re: Splitting Apache logs

2001-05-02 Thread will trillich
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 07:11:49PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote:
> I would like to receive suggestions both on functionality and on any issues 
> regarding the documentation (if you don't understand the man page then let me 
> know).

log via DBI to postgresql. then yank whatever crossections you
like, via sql with views, triggers, plpgsql functions and
what-not.

http://webtechniques.com/archives/2000/04/perl/index.shtml

(example is in mysql, but easy to structure for most any database
engine.)

-- 
DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #12 from Will Trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:
Where is the DOCUMENTATION? It's all over the place... and there's
lots of it. Much was written for non-debian distributions, and
much was written long, long ago. But try these anyhow: on your
own system, try "man" and "info" and "apropos", and also look
under /usr/share/doc/* ... Online, there's linuxdoc.org,
debianhelp.org, and debian.org/doc/ of course.  Also try
http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/general/index-deb-help-sys.html

Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ...



Re: backup strategies

2001-05-02 Thread Alvin Oga

hi ya

I'd use disk as backups... if i was starting from scratch
- nothing need be done...unlike tapes that requires regular
possibly daily interaction )

20Gb disks are about $100 now... and can hold 2-3 months
of daily/weekly incremental backups before you have to go
back in there and purge it...
- it obviously depends on what kidn of files is
being changed/modified ...daily...

- dont try "incremental" with xxxMb mpeg files...
( its already way too compressed.. 

- i require daily incrementals for my backups... so forgetting
  to change the daily/weekly tapes or more expensive tape libraries
  are NOT good options...
searching tapes are painfully slow.. for that once in a year
I need to find that file i just erased...

have ya restored your system from tape lately ???
- seen a few that failed...
- but than again...seen disk backups they did fail too... oh well

gotta test or at least review  backups regularly...

c ya
alvin

On Wed, 2 May 2001, Karsten M. Self wrote:

> on Tue, May 01, 2001 at 04:47:00PM -0700, Osamu Aoki ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
> wrote:
> > On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 04:11:25PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > > > The cd solution probably has an advantage, since I could use the 
> > > > cd-writer
> > > > for other cd-writing too.
> > > 
> > > http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/backups.html
> > 
> > Tape is GOOD thing if you have money.  For work, this is the answer and
> > do not look anywhere else.
> 
> Used tape is not expensive.  8-12 GB units are available on eBay for <
> US$100.  Tape is cheap and reusable.  CDR unit sizes are too small for
> current storage capacities.
> 
> CDR is OK if you've got it, but I'd advise tape for backup if you're
> starting from scratch.



Re: ReiserFS + 2.4.4

2001-05-02 Thread Oki DZ
Ilya Martynov wrote:
> I'm not sure about reiserfs but at least ext3 does replays logs on
> read only filesystem. I'm going to check if it so with reiserfs.
> 
> Here http://kt.zork.net/kernel-traffic/kt20010119_103.html#1 you can
> find some discussion why on jornaling filesystems log can be replayed
> even if filesystem is mounted as read only.

Thanks; I'll check it out.
If it really does, then my system is okay now.
BTW, if it's read-only and you can still write something on the
filesystem, why is it called read-only...? (I'm a bit dazed and
confused...)

Oki



Re: backup strategies

2001-05-02 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, May 01, 2001 at 04:47:00PM -0700, Osamu Aoki ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 04:11:25PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > > The cd solution probably has an advantage, since I could use the cd-writer
> > > for other cd-writing too.
> > 
> > http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/backups.html
> 
> Tape is GOOD thing if you have money.  For work, this is the answer and
> do not look anywhere else.

Used tape is not expensive.  8-12 GB units are available on eBay for <
US$100.  Tape is cheap and reusable.  CDR unit sizes are too small for
current storage capacities.

CDR is OK if you've got it, but I'd advise tape for backup if you're
starting from scratch.

Cheers.

-- 
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Re: (OT) Storage (8*IDE HDs) any experiences? - diodes

2001-05-02 Thread Alvin Oga

hi ya

> I think if you use a diode to connect the outputs you are limiting
> the current flow in one way only. And why would you want to do this?

the diodes need to be power diodes... vs signal diodes 

given you cannot tie the power supplies at two diff voltages together...
you have to isolate it somehow... ( the power diode method )
- even putting two batteries in parallel dont work...
-
- and it gets real fun when you put car batteries in parallel
- and if you can get it working... it makes for a very good UPS
-
- one car battery lasts about 15hrs ...for a P3-500 class server
- sitting idle with no AC power

yes...it might limit the current... and a resistor is bad too
cause they both nullifies/weaken the accurate "voltage regulation"..
- ie.  big current spikes will occur 

but more importantly, its primary purpose is to allow for the 
two power supply at different voltages ( +5.25v  and +4.75v ) to be tied
together

at these extremes... the diodes wont helpand the dioes will simply
burn up due to the current it has to pass to get to that "voltage"
one side being a diode drop ( 0.7v ) across itself..
- a power mosfet is better suited ...

think we're going off course...but... thats the fun of watching
things blow up in the lab when ne does whacky things like connect
two power supplies together???  ( smoke test or heat test )

c ya
alvin
http://www.Linux-1U.net ... 



Re: Linux style dialup automatically

2001-05-02 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 11:35:23AM +0300, Shaul Karl wrote:
> 
> Why not using /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/fetchmail ?
> Note that it uses /etc/init.d/fetchmail which, in turn, needs 
> /etc/fetchmailrc.
> 
> Please read /usr/share/doc/fetchmail/README.Debian
> -- 
Is this a multi user box?  Do you want each user's fetchmail to be run on
dial up?



Re: debian package mirrors

2001-05-02 Thread Colin Watson
"Matus \"fantomas\" Uhlar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Colin Watson wrote:
>-> That's very old, and doesn't seem to know about pools. The one I quoted
>-> is billed as a working pool-aware partial mirror script.
>
>well, pool is just subdirectory in the hierarchy, why should it work badly?

Because the packages that used to go in dists/$(dist)/binary-$(arch) are
now all jumbled together in the pool. You can't just exclude by
architecture any more, or indeed by distribution; you've got to parse
Packages files in order to know what you need to mirror, or else you'll
either get far too much or far too little.

>-> >(58GB here - seems too much)
>-> 
>-> Sounds like you're mirroring the whole archive.
>
>yes, but it was ~30GB just some weeks (months) ago...

Maybe the release of 2.2r3 changed something. Depends what you're trying
to mirror.

-- 
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: (OT) Storage (8*IDE HDs) any experiences?

2001-05-02 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 11:21:49PM +0200, PiotR wrote:
> Also I didn't understood why Alvin said "If one PS dies you are dead" I 
> believe it will only fail to power those drives attached to them.
This would only work in a raid >=1 setup.  You'd have one one drive on PS1,
and its mirror on PS2

md0= hda & hdc
md1= hde & hdg

hda & hde on PS 1
hdc & hdg on PS 2

I really wouldn't want to create a setup like this myself.  You should
really have a power supply that can handle all of your devices, and a backup
PS that isn't used until needed.

Mike



Re: (OT) Storage (8*IDE HDs) any experiences?

2001-05-02 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 04:52:03PM -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 11:21:49PM +0200, PiotR wrote:
> > I think if you use a diode to connect the outputs you are limiting the 
> > current flow in one way only. And why would you want to do this?
> 
> Could this topic die or go somewhere else?  Please?  Thanks :)
> 
Probably not, sorry. ;)

Mike



Re: netatalk setup gaflooey

2001-05-02 Thread Ethan Benson
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 08:45:19AM -0700, Eric Richardson wrote:

> > hostname   -tcp  -noddp -nosetpassword -nouservol -noguest
> 
> Is hostname arbitrary? 

hostname should be replaced with whatever hostname your machine has,
sorry fo the confusion.

> I noticed in the init script, afpd -n "$servername", where servername is
> the short host name.

delete that, start afpd with no command line args.  -n is a
CrappleTalk name. 

> I also saw in the afpd.conf file that you could use - for the default
> host name but this didn't work either.

thats why i just specify it, in my example above replace hostname with
your machines real hostname.  

> output:
> 
> /etc/init.d/netatalk start
> Starting AppleTalk Daemons (this will take a while):bind: Cannot assign
> requested address
> bind: Cannot assign requested address
>  afpd papd.

comment out papd, and remove the command line args from afpd.  

here is a afpd initscript i wrote, i simply disabled the netatalk
script entirely:

#! /bin/sh
#
#   afpdStarts and stops just the afpd instead of all
#   the appletalk crap along with it. (netatalk)
#

PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
DAEMON=/usr/sbin/afpd
NAME=afpd
DESC="Appleshare file server"

test -f $DAEMON || exit 0

set -e

case "$1" in
  start)
echo -n "Starting $DESC: "
start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --pidfile /var/run/$NAME.pid \
--exec $DAEMON
echo "$NAME."
;;
  stop)
echo -n "Stopping $DESC: "
start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --pidfile /var/run/$NAME.pid \
--exec $DAEMON
echo "$NAME."
;;
  reload)
$0 force-reload
  ;;
  restart|force-reload)

echo -n "Restarting $DESC: "
start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --pidfile \
/var/run/$NAME.pid --exec $DAEMON
sleep 1
start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --pidfile \
/var/run/$NAME.pid --exec $DAEMON
echo "$NAME."
;;
  *)
N=/etc/init.d/$NAME
echo "Usage: $N {start|stop|restart|force-reload}" >&2
exit 1
;;
esac

exit 0


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Re: any women here?

2001-05-02 Thread Ailbhe Leamy
On (18/04/01 11:58), Deirdre Saoirse wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Erik Steffl wrote:

>>> It could be because a lot of women are brushed off, or feel that
>>> they are.  I must confess that sometimes it seems like men have
>>> invisible rays with which they communicate, because women aren't a
>>> part of that hive mind, not

Personally, I think that men don't actually communicate. They don't
like it. Instead, they confine their thought processes to a small set
of predictable ones, so that all they ever need to say is "Hey, did
you see that game?" and "I'm off now, you going to the pub after
work?".

Stereotypes-R-Us also cater for children's parties.

>>   how the hell did you find out? it was supposed to be
>> never-to-be-revealed secret.

> Like I said, I'm a female engineer. This means I have Awesome Secret
> Geek Tools at my disposal.

> No smiley here either I think those invisible rays are a part of
> why I never quite felt like I fit in on my last job -- and perhaps a
> factor in being laid off. At least, that's what I fear.

You and every female geek who has ever been laid off, I suspect. I
have no idea how many female geeks are correct about it though.

> (Oh yeah, Linux geek-for-hire here...)

Ditto. I prefer to work from home, FWIW.

Ailbhe

ps Deirdre Saoirse is a helluva name, as long as you pronounce Deirdre
correctly :) I wasn't aware that Saorise was a surname, and I've only
ever known one other... Her brother was Aontacht.

-- 
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Kernel sound problems

2001-05-02 Thread Craig Holyoak
I have been running kernel 2.4.1 without any problems for some time now
on my Debian (woody) box. I just tried to upgrade to 2.4.4, but now
mp3's don't play properly - it's just a bunch of static and the time
ticks over really slowly (thats in xmms, but the same problem also
occurs in mpg123). CD's play fine.

Here's my configuration:
Athlon 800MHz
192 MB RAM
es1371 sound card (compiled into the kernel)

Any ideas as to what the problem could be - everything worked fine for
2.4.1, but any release since (2.4.2, 2.4.3 and 2.4.4) all have this
problem?

TIA

Craig

-- 
Craig Holyoak
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.uq.net.au/craigh/



Re: Having 3 jpg images side by side to create one bigger image?

2001-05-02 Thread Jason Healy
At 988868879s since epoch (05/02/01 17:47:59 -0400 UTC), Shaul Karl wrote:
> Is there a utility to have 3 jpg image files put side by side in order to 
> create one image?

You could try to talk `montage` (part of the imagemagik suite) into doing
it.  Montage will stick pictures next to each other.  Not sure if there are
size restrictions (ie, all pictures must be the same size), but the man page
ought to help with that.

Jason

--
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LogN Systems   |   http://www.logn.net/



Re: Parallel zips

2001-05-02 Thread David Harper
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Wright) wrote:

> > I have tried the imm module, but this will not install. (It just tells 
> > me that "Device or resource busy". It adds, of course, that this can be 
> > caused by incorrect parameters, but it will not accept any parameters I 
> > can think to give it.
> 
> ppa needs parport and parport_pc installed first, so I guess
> imm (the more modern ppa) might do too.

TVM. That is all that was needed.

David Harper



Re: Having 3 jpg images side by side to create one bigger image?

2001-05-02 Thread straylite
At Thu, 03 May 2001 00:47:59 +0300 , Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

>Is there a utility to have 3 jpg image files put side by side in order to 
>create one image?
>

I am no gimp guru, but it shouldn't be too hard to do this with the gimp.  Just 
create a new image with adequate horizontal/vertical size and copy/paste your 
images into it.

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Re: kde2

2001-05-02 Thread Hans
I believe there were only rpm's on that disk, and they suggested to build
it yourself from source for other distro's. I didn't buy it. Go for
apt-sources. --Hans

P.S. for the unenlightened, Linux Format is a UK magazine also sold in
Holland in bigger bookstores.

At 04:06 PM 5/2/01 +0100, David Richards wrote:
>I have just got linux format in the uk and it has kde2.1 on the cd. Has
>anyone installed it yet and will i be able to get any packages that it will
>needs, that arent included on the cd via apt-get ?
>
>
>regards 
>
>david
>
>
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Re: (OT) Storage (8*IDE HDs) any experiences?

2001-05-02 Thread Rich Puhek
(Sorry about the blank email... too much caffeene got me a twitchy
trigger finger).

Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
> 
> In fact,
> there will be some point at which each individual PSU will run
> just as hot as if it handled all the load on its own (you can be sure
> your box will draw exactly that much load, thank you Mr Murphy).
>

Hmmm, I'm doubtful that that's the case if our load is around 25% to 50%
or something like that. That's based on almost a pure guess, but I
recall UPS efficiency numbers of something like high 90% numbers for
almost full load versus 85% or so at 50% load. Obviously, a very lightly
loaded power supply will put out about as much heat regardless of
whether it's running at 1% or 2% capacity, but I'm thinking that will
diverge fairly quickly.

Also, in most PS and case designs, the PS should have a negligable
effect on the heat transfer of the box, given that its fan exhausts
directly to the exterior of the case. If the case is ventilated through
the power supply (as common in desktop PCs and low end servers), there
will be a small change, depending on the temperature within the power
supply case (been about 4-years since I decided 'Thermo and an ME degree
weren't for me, so the ideas are fuzzy for me too).

 
> I'm not arguing that this is the case, I'm saying that this kind of
> argument can be twisted and turned any which way you like.
> 

Very true, which is why redundancy will be the main factor, not heat
production.

> I had mid-80s AT PSUs. They'd still be working if I didn't have to
> move house and throw all that junk out. If a PSU lasts for 15 years,
> will 2 load-sharing PSUs last 30 years? Do I care? (Will I last 30
> more years?) I know that CPU will maybe last 1/5th of that, disks
> maybe 1/3rd. So what is it I'm going to achieve by setting up
> load-balancing PSUs?
> 

Well, those mid-80s AT PSUs (in general, I mean) seem to have either
been A) oversized for the AT PCs or B) just better quality than normal
desktop-grade power supplies of today. (BTW: I recall hearing that Intel
speced Pentium CPUs for a lifetime of 10 or 20 years in normal usage...
used as a rationale for overclocking and the reduced lifespan it
causes). No, I don't anticipate a linear relationship between load and
lifespan, nor would I anticipate a linear relationship between load and
heat disappated, heat dissapated and lifespan, etc... I would however,
anticipate that keeping a power supply running somewhere under its full
rated capacity will increase its lifespan to some extent. Also, in a
load-balancing configuration, you eliminate the 


> ... Also consider what
> > happens if the load was near the capacity of a single supply, and spiked
> > over the capacity. If we were using the second supply as a "backup" to
> > only be switched in if the primary failed, how would that be handled?
> 
> Well if you mean some piece of hardware suddently decides to draw
> $BIGNUM times its normal current, the PSU will die. Depending on the
> design, there's a circuit somewhere (eg. on the backplane) that does
> the  appropriate magic and switches the second PSU on. Of course it'll
> die very soon too, unless the FPOH in question magically fixed itself
> in the meantime.
> 

I was thinking more like the combined load in the box was something like
95% of the rated capacity of the power supply, then spiked to 110% (like
having a bunch of SCSI drives spin up). A decent power supply probably
won't let the smoke out, but it probably won't give the best power
either. A redundant load-sharing arrangement would have both supplies
running at something like 42.5%, then spike to something like 55%.
Granted, this is a bit of a stretch, but I've seen too many cases
recently of servers in a simple consumer PC box that gradually got
stuffed full of SCSI drives until a PS failed.


> Sometimes the magic fails -- I remember the look on my boss's face when
> he pulled a hot-swappable PSU out of a live swerver, and the box went
> down. Oops. (Only happened once; we later tried to reproduce the problem,
> quite unsuccessfully: PSUs switched over like a charm, every bloody time.
> Surprise, surprise.)
> 
> Dima

Like you said, Mr. Murphy pays a visit every now and then :-)

(whew... ok, I'm done.. this topic has wandered far enough!)

--Rich

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Re: Netscape 4.77 - spell checker

2001-05-02 Thread Greg Madden
Keith O'Connell wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I recently went from Netscape 4.76 to 4.77 via stable and have just
> noticed that the spell check option is greyed out on the menues now.
> 
> What should I do to get the spell checker back?
> What idiot thing am I likly to have done to have lost it?
> 
> I also noticed, whilst I am on the subject, that even when I had 4.76
> running  and the spell checker worked, the custom.dic file never took
> any of the words I wanted to add to it. it remains at a zero file length
> 
> What is likly to be wrong with my setup here?
> 
> Keith.
snip

For whatever reason spellcheck does not get upgrqaded/replaced during an
upgrade. Netscape installs to a separate dir here, I have both 476 &
477. You need to  'apt-get' the spellcheck package. 
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Re: (OT) Storage (8*IDE HDs) any experiences?

2001-05-02 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 11:21:49PM +0200, PiotR wrote:
> On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 08:30:10AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> > On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 08:42:04PM +0200, PiotR wrote:
> > > If you short circuit both PS's outputs then the voltage is the same and 
> > > there won't be any reverse current, neither in the data cables. So te 
> > > load will be distributed between both PS. 
> > 
> > In power combining applications like these, balancing diodes
> > or resistors are usually used. It's not good just to connect
> > the outputs together.
> 
> What's the difference between those and a standard diode?
> I think if you use a diode to connect the outputs you are limiting the 
> current flow in one way only. And why would you want to do this?

Could this topic die or go somewhere else?  Please?  Thanks :)

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Having 3 jpg images side by side to create one bigger image?

2001-05-02 Thread Shaul Karl
Is there a utility to have 3 jpg image files put side by side in order to 
create one image?

That is, the final image will be something like:

 =
 | 1st image | 2nd image | 3rd image |
 =
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Re: play - or other program to play waves...

2001-05-02 Thread Ilya Martynov

JTH> Hi,
JTH> I'm looking for "play" (used by licq) anyone know which package
JTH> could contain it? Or any other program (should work with arts)

artsplay?

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Re: 3ware raid - custom rescue floppy?

2001-05-02 Thread aphro
well i guess i don't have to worry about it. the servers
were so defective that im just shippin em back.

gonna get the right stuff this time, no more OS on a
raid array.

nate


> i thought that the debian rescue disk didnt include support
> course i havent tested this yet.
> 
> and no the systems have no cdrom.
> 
> and yes i do not like the idea of having the OS on the
> raid controller.
> 
> thanks for the info, tomorrow i should recieve the floppy
> cable that the company forgot to install in the system
> and i will try to install 2.2r3.
> 
> hope it goes well.
> 
> nate
> 
> 
>> 
>> Why are you trying to rebuild your rescue floppy?  The Linux kernel
>> already includes excellent 3Ware drivers so IIANM your rescue floppy
>> should already be able to access the RAID array.  If you are using
>> such an old version of Debian that it predates the 3Ware products...
>> you might want to consider upgrading your distro instead of sending
>> back your hardware.
>> 
>> All of the drives are supposed to be on the RAID controller.  That's
>> good design.  RAID boots fast, especially 3Ware RAID 0.
>> 
>> Also, if these are new systems they probably include a CD-ROM reader,
>> correct? You should be able to boot directly from the Debian CD if you
>> set the correct option in the BIOS.  Booting from CD is much faster
>> and MUCH more reliable than booting from a floppy.
>> 
>> Shawn Yarbrough
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> hi
>>>
>>> i recieved 3 new systems today ..i was unaware of their
>>> (lack) of design until i opened the case. they are
>>> 1U IDE raid systems from some company called 'pogolinux'.
>>> the problem is there is 4 drives, and ALL of them are on
>>> the raid controller(3ware). since i am not gonna
>>> be using redhat on these systems, i need to figure out
>>> the best way to replace the kernel on the rescue
>>> disk for debian so it will recognize the drives. either
>>> that or i return the systems.  I can take care of the
>>> compiling kernel and stuff no problem just would like to
>>> know if there is a way to replace the kernel image.
>>> last time i checked, when i mounted the rescue disk
>>> all it was was a bunch of files, so could i just copy
>>> my new kernel on top of the old one?(don't need to
>>> worry about modules i won't be using any at first, everything
>>> will be statically built). or is there something more
>>> to it. last time i created a boot disk with kernel-package
>>> it seemed to be a rather inflexable boot disk(didn't have
>>> lilo, or at least didn't have it configured so i could do
>>> other things with it, it would just boot without prompting)
>>> i really don't like the idea of having the OS on raid
>>> especially because we will be running them in raid0,
>>> that would indeed suck to have the OS itself go down
>>> because of a storage drive dieing.
>>>
>>> any help would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> thanks!
>>>
>>> nate
>>>
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Re: (OT) Storage (8*IDE HDs) any experiences?

2001-05-02 Thread Rich Puhek

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Re: gnome/sawfish: windows only open on workspace #1

2001-05-02 Thread Steve M. Robbins
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 11:30:23PM +0200, Mario Vukelic wrote:
> On 02 May 2001 15:23:12 -0400, Steve M. Robbins wrote:
> 
> > After I "logout" from the gnome session, and log back in, all the same
> > windows open -- as near as I can tell -- but THEY ALL OPEN ON
> > WORKSPACE #1 which makes an unholy mess.  
> 
> Sawfish as 2 config items in gnomecc: "Automatically remember windows
> positions" + "Automatically remember window sizes", probably in section
> Placement.

Good call.  I should have mentioned this.

I had all of these turned ON:

  Automatically remember window positions.
  Automatically remember window sizes.
  Automatically remember other window attributes.
  Don't automatically remember details of transient windows.

So these settings are not the problem.


> It may be that you need to turn advanced options on in Meta.
> That should help. If not you can define where which apps should start in
> the section Matched Windows

Yeah, but I don't want to do that.  I do not want a standard set of
apps to start.  I want to re-create the session as it was before I
logged out the last time.

Thanks,
-S



Re: gnome/sawfish: windows only open on workspace #1

2001-05-02 Thread Mario Vukelic
On 02 May 2001 15:23:12 -0400, Steve M. Robbins wrote:

> After I "logout" from the gnome session, and log back in, all the same
> windows open -- as near as I can tell -- but THEY ALL OPEN ON
> WORKSPACE #1 which makes an unholy mess.  

Sawfish as 2 config items in gnomecc: "Automatically remember windows
positions" + "Automatically remember window sizes", probably in section
Placement. It may be that you need to turn advanced options on in Meta.
That should help. If not you can define where which apps should start in
the section Matched Windows

Good luck, M.
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Re: (OT) Storage (8*IDE HDs) any experiences?

2001-05-02 Thread PiotR
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 08:30:10AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 08:42:04PM +0200, PiotR wrote:
> > If you short circuit both PS's outputs then the voltage is the same and 
> > there won't be any reverse current, neither in the data cables. So te load 
> > will be distributed between both PS. 
> 
> In power combining applications like these, balancing diodes
> or resistors are usually used. It's not good just to connect
> the outputs together.

What's the difference between those and a standard diode?
I think if you use a diode to connect the outputs you are limiting the current 
flow in one way only. And why would you want to do this?
Also I didn't understood why Alvin said "If one PS dies you are dead" I believe 
it will only fail to power those drives attached to them.

> 
> Hamish
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Re: (OT) Storage (8*IDE HDs) any experiences?

2001-05-02 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 03:13:34PM -0500, Rich Puhek wrote:
...
> I agree with Matthew in that there _is_ a reason to share the load,
> actually a few that I can think of. Let's say you have a pair of 300W
> supplies on a box that draws 250W at rest. Rather than let one supply
> crank along at 250W, let's let both supplies run at about 125W. That
> way, both supplies will run cooler (Depending on the supply design, the
> supply may actually have slightly lower efficiency at the lower load
> factor, but that's a trade off we can live with). 

IANAEE/Physicist and it's been (dear Goddess, has it been this long?)
over 15 years since school, so my recollection is a bit fuzzy... 
Lower efficiency at lower load will probably mean more energy is 
dissipated as heat. So 2 PSUs * 125W ea will generate more heat than 
1 PSU * 250W. Depending on box design this may cause CPU/disks to 
operate at higher temperatures, reducing their lifespan. In fact,
there will be some point at which each individual PSU will run 
just as hot as if it handled all the load on its own (you can be sure
your box will draw exactly that much load, thank you Mr Murphy).

I'm not arguing that this is the case, I'm saying that this kind of
argument can be twisted and turned any which way you like. 

I had mid-80s AT PSUs. They'd still be working if I didn't have to
move house and throw all that junk out. If a PSU lasts for 15 years, 
will 2 load-sharing PSUs last 30 years? Do I care? (Will I last 30 
more years?) I know that CPU will maybe last 1/5th of that, disks 
maybe 1/3rd. So what is it I'm going to achieve by setting up 
load-balancing PSUs?

... Also consider what
> happens if the load was near the capacity of a single supply, and spiked
> over the capacity. If we were using the second supply as a "backup" to
> only be switched in if the primary failed, how would that be handled?

Well if you mean some piece of hardware suddently decides to draw
$BIGNUM times its normal current, the PSU will die. Depending on the 
design, there's a circuit somewhere (eg. on the backplane) that does 
the  appropriate magic and switches the second PSU on. Of course it'll 
die very soon too, unless the FPOH in question magically fixed itself 
in the meantime.

Sometimes the magic fails -- I remember the look on my boss's face when 
he pulled a hot-swappable PSU out of a live swerver, and the box went 
down. Oops. (Only happened once; we later tried to reproduce the problem, 
quite unsuccessfully: PSUs switched over like a charm, every bloody time.
Surprise, surprise.)

Dima
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Re: Downloading of Debian

2001-05-02 Thread Timothy J. Ford
"Quek Choon Huat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi,
> 
>  
> 
>     I am very new to Linux. Is there anyone who can tell me which exactly to
> download for installation.
> 
>  
> 
> Thnks and Rgds

Have you considered buying a set of installation CD's?
When you have a working system, it is easy to upgrade using downloads 
from the internet.

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HP 1220C troubles cont.'d

2001-05-02 Thread K. Matthew Victor
"K. Matthew Victor" wrote:

> >
> >
> 
Okay, I've now gotten the beast to print garbled trash and consume large
stacks of paper!!
Progress, sort of.
So, now to try to find a driver that will give at least a minor amount
of utility.   Thanks, Matt


Using lpj4 without postscript @600dpi, will print B/W very nicely. I'll
muck about with the DeskJet Linux drivers from a link on
http://www.linuxprinting.org.
And, Yes, I'll certainly try to learn to set up gimp-print. Thank You
all, very much appreciated, K. Matthew Victor



Netscape v.s. C source code

2001-05-02 Thread Steve M. Robbins
Hi,

I have HTML-ized documentation for a code library that contains links
to the actual header files.  Clicking on the link is supposed to show
the contents of the "fool.h" file, for example.

However, instead of displaying the text in the netscape window,
I get a little popup showing the first few dozen lines and the
message
<< stderr diagnostics have been truncated >>

with an "OK" button.  It is the same popup you sometimes get when
netscape runs a "helper" application (e.g. ghostview) to display
something.

I looked through netscape's list of "helper apps" in the preferences
panel, and discovered several things with mime types like

text/x-csrc
text/x-chdr

that were set to be handled by "unknown:promptuser" or something
(I've mucked about and can't recall exactly).  However, the option
to be handled by "Navigator" is greyed out and un-selectable.

WTF?  It's *text*, after all.  What magic spell do I need to convince
navigator to put it into the main window like a "foo.txt" file?

Thanks so much,
-Steve

P.S.  This is a Debian/unstable system, with Communicator 4.77.



Re: (OT) Storage (8*IDE HDs) any experiences?

2001-05-02 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 08:18:20PM +0100, Matthew Sackman wrote:
...
> 
> Every production server that I've seen that has 2 PSUs has both
> continuously running. At hopefully < 50% capacity. 

Interesting. Could you post the list of brand names/vendors so
that we'll know what not to buy.

... Of
> course, the irony is that as they are both routed to the same power
> inlet, if the fuse in the plug goes then you're buggered anyway! :-)

Tip of the day: plug them into 2 different UPSen connected to separate 
power lines (pref. separate circuits). 

Oh, and (since they sound like the kind of servers that come with
monitors) don't plug monitors into UPSen.

Dima (sorry, couldn't resist)
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HP 1220C troubles cont.'d

2001-05-02 Thread K. Matthew Victor
"K. Matthew Victor" wrote:

> >
> >
> > Subject: Re: Any hope of help? or suggestions?
> > Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 10:04:12 -0400
> > From: Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 
> >
> > Subject: Any hope of help? or suggestions?
> > Date: Wed, May 02, 2001 at 04:35:39AM +
> >
> > In reply to:K. Matthew Victor
> >
> > Quoting K. Matthew Victor([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > > "K. Matthew Victor" wrote:
> > >
> > > > "K. Matthew Victor" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Please give me a hand straightening this muddle up.
> > > > > I need to figure out how to get the printer daemon back up and 
> > > > > working.
> > -
> > > > > (6): My old printer is no longer avail. to me (reassigned to a 
> > > > > different
> > > > > facility), it was an HP LaserJet 1100.
> > > > > Thank you in advance. K. Matthew Victor
> > > >
> > > > PS. lpc start does not do the trick.
> > > > I'll root around the Running Linux book and snoop around in the man 
> > > > pages a
> > > > bit.
> > > > tia, K. Matthew Victor.
> > >
> > > I sure could use some suggestions here. Is it possible that I accidently
> > > removed the local print daemon? TIA, Matt
> > try
> > whereis lpd
> > lpd: /usr/sbin/lpd /usr/share/man/man8/lpd.8.gz
> >
> > if you get that then, no you didn't delete it
> >
> > is it running
> > ps aux |grep lpd
> > root   374  0.0  0.0  1352   32 ?SApr29   0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd
> >
> > is it running?  No then
> > /etc/init.d/lpd restart
> >
> > HTH=Hope This Helps, YMMV=Your Mileage May Vary, HAND=Have A Nice Day
> >
> > --
> > Warning, keyboard not found. Press Enter to continue.
> > ___
> >
>
> Thank you for the help, thus far no joy!
> Results from the suggested commands:
> $  whereis lpd
> lpd: /usr/sbin/lpd
> su  
> # ps -aux |grep lpd
> Bad syntax, perhaps a bogus'-'
> root 218  0.0  0.1  1212   548  ?   SMay01  0:00  [lpd]
> matthew  3565  0.0  0.1   1112   444 pts/0   S   12:02   0:00  grep  lpd
>
> It looks to be running, however, I issued the restart command:
> storm:/home/matthew#  /etc/init.d/lpd restart
> Stopping printer spooler: lpd not running.
> Starting printer spooler: lpr.
> #man lpc  -t |lpr
> lpr: connect: Connection refused
> jobs queued, but cannot start daemon
> # man lpc |lpr
> same return as above, also as normal user. This command sequence used to 
> work, untill yesterday when this fun began.
> Triying to print from inside an app. (Netscape) does not result in output to 
> the printer.
> Is it possible to use apt to reinstall the stuff that seems broken? TIA, Matt.

Okay, I"ve now gotten the beast to print garbled trash and consume large stacks 
of paper!!
Progress, sort of.
So, now to try to find a driver that will give at least a minor amount of 
utility.   Thanks, Matt



Re: (OT) Storage (8*IDE HDs) any experiences?

2001-05-02 Thread Rich Puhek
Dell Poweredge 2450 style servers is what you're looking for. They have
two power supplies, each with its own power cord. Yes, it can run on one
PS... the last one I set up ran that way on my desk since I only had one
cord handy. Of course, you'll want to make damn sure the grounds are at
the same potential, so doing funny tricks with where you plug them in
could be a bad idea. 

Another nice thing about this (and probably all the machines Matthew's
referring to) is that the motherboard doesn't need to "support" multiple
supplies, nor do the hard drives, fans, tape drives, etc.

I agree with Matthew in that there _is_ a reason to share the load,
actually a few that I can think of. Let's say you have a pair of 300W
supplies on a box that draws 250W at rest. Rather than let one supply
crank along at 250W, let's let both supplies run at about 125W. That
way, both supplies will run cooler (Depending on the supply design, the
supply may actually have slightly lower efficiency at the lower load
factor, but that's a trade off we can live with). Also consider what
happens if the load was near the capacity of a single supply, and spiked
over the capacity. If we were using the second supply as a "backup" to
only be switched in if the primary failed, how would that be handled?

--Rich


Matthew Sackman wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 12:05:11PM -0500, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 05:32:31PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote:
> > ...
> > > - even if you had 2 power supplies...
> > > - most motherboards only has one atx power connector
> >
> > True. And if you went for redundant PS's and a mobo that
> > supports them, the cost would go way up.
> >
> > > - are the two power supplies properly doing load sharing...
> >
> > Usually not. I imagine that's too hard and not worth the trouble
> > anyway: what you usually want is redundancy, not load sharing.
> > (I mean, if one PS dies, it will overload and kill the other one
> > pretty fast. Not a good idea. And if each PS can handle the load
> > alone, there's little point in sharing the load.)
> 
> Every production server that I've seen that has 2 PSUs has both
> continuously running. At hopefully < 50% capacity. There is no
> switch-over - if one goes then the other has to cope with both. Of
> course, the irony is that as they are both routed to the same power
> inlet, if the fuse in the plug goes then you're buggered anyway! :-)
> 
> Matthew
> 
> --
> 
> Matthew Sackman
> Nottingham,
> ENGLAND
> 

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sendmail and setgroups()

2001-05-02 Thread Shane Wegner
Hi,

The current SendMail in unstable appears to be doing a
setgroups() call when it does not have superuser
privileges.  I am getting the following on a regular basis
from my lids kernel.

LIDS: sendmail (9 2 inode 32909) pid 19760 user (8/8) on
NULL tty: more CAP_SETGID violation: Try to
setgroups,logging disabled for 10 seconds

It only loggs this when setgroups() is called and the user
is not root.  Do you have any idea what this could be?

Regards,
Shane

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crontab problem ? - SOLVED

2001-05-02 Thread Dominique Deleris
Dominique Deleris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello list.
> 
> I want to run a script, using the crontab facilites in debian : I
> have created a symbolic link to my administrative script in
> /etc/cron.weekly, but it seems to me that it is never triggered.
> 
> Here is the ls for the symlink in /etc/cron.daily:
> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root
> 
> Here is the same information for the script itself, located in
> ~/bin of my normal user account:
> -rwxr--r--1 dod  dod
> 
> My regular user account (dod) is not a member of root group.
> 
> What should I do ?
> 
> Thanks for the hints.
> 
> Dominique
> 

I solved the issue : I had to apt-get install anacron ! :-)

Dominique



gnome/sawfish: windows only open on workspace #1

2001-05-02 Thread Steve M. Robbins
Hi,

I'm using GNOME with sawfish as the window manager.  

In GNOME's control centre, I have ticked the option to "automatically
save changes to session".  This appears to work: when I log in (using
gdm), the applications that were running in my last session are
restarted.

Sawfish, like any modern window manager, has "virtual desktops" that
they call "workspaces".  I have it configured to open seven workspaces.

I normally have one or two xterms in each workspace.  Some workspaces
will have an xemacs window or two, and there is usually a netscape
window open, too.

After I "logout" from the gnome session, and log back in, all the same
windows open -- as near as I can tell -- but THEY ALL OPEN ON
WORKSPACE #1 which makes an unholy mess.  

Am I doing something wrong?  I'd like each window to appear on the
same workspace that it occupied in the previous session.  I've scoured
the control centre for a relevant option, but failed to find it.

Or is it a bug in the code somewhere?  There is one exception that I
have noticed in casual usage: gmix will open up on the same workspace
it was on in the last session.  Does it do something that the other
applications do not?  Who needs to fix things: sawfish, gnome, or all
the application writers?  (Hopefully not the latter -- that would be a
real mess)

I should mention versions.  I am using Debian "unstable" (with Debian
GNOME, no Ximian packages), apt-get upgraded as of a day or two ago.
But this problem has been ongoing for months.  In fact, I think it has
been this way for the two years that I've been using GNOME.

For any help or advice that you can offer, many thanks,
-Steve



Re: (OT) Storage (8*IDE HDs) any experiences?

2001-05-02 Thread Matthew Sackman
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 12:05:11PM -0500, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 05:32:31PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote:
> ...
> > - even if you had 2 power supplies...
> > - most motherboards only has one atx power connector
> 
> True. And if you went for redundant PS's and a mobo that 
> supports them, the cost would go way up.
> 
> > - are the two power supplies properly doing load sharing...
> 
> Usually not. I imagine that's too hard and not worth the trouble
> anyway: what you usually want is redundancy, not load sharing.
> (I mean, if one PS dies, it will overload and kill the other one
> pretty fast. Not a good idea. And if each PS can handle the load
> alone, there's little point in sharing the load.)

Every production server that I've seen that has 2 PSUs has both
continuously running. At hopefully < 50% capacity. There is no
switch-over - if one goes then the other has to cope with both. Of
course, the irony is that as they are both routed to the same power
inlet, if the fuse in the plug goes then you're buggered anyway! :-)

Matthew

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Re: play - or other program to play waves...

2001-05-02 Thread Jaye Inabnit ke6sls

Then look at artsplay :) Go figure . . .

I set it up on licq and kde/potato. Works fine.

So, if you already have a copy of kde2's latest, the artsplay *should* 
already be available on your system. type art+tab+tab for other arts stuff in 
a vt or console..

tatah

On Wednesday 02 May 2001 10:58, Jan Torben Heuer wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm looking for "play" (used by licq) anyone know which package could
> contain it? Or any other program (should work with arts)
>
> thanx,
>
>   Jan Torben

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Re: IRQ 0 for 3C900 Combo PCI? -> SOLVED!

2001-05-02 Thread Matt Thompson
Turns out IRQ 0 meant that the card wasn't actually getting an IRQ at all
(thanks to the ever fabulous rcw :).  I set the BIOS to a non-PNP OS and
all is well. :)

Matt Thompson   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Network Administrator
Williamson & Associates
http://www.wassoc.com

On Wed, 2 May 2001, Matt Thompson wrote:

> Greetings, list :)
> 
> I just set up a server in our office here in Houston with the above
> mentioned card.  When the system boots, the 3Com ethernet card comes up
> with IRQ 0 which, of course, doesn't work.
> 
> WTF??? :)
> 
> Any help anyone could give would be GREATLY appreciated since I'm supposed
> to fly home to Seattle tomorrow.
> 
> Cheers..
> 
> Matt Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Network Administrator
> Williamson & Associates
> http://www.wassoc.com
> 
> 



Re: play - or other program to play waves...

2001-05-02 Thread Sebastiaan
Hi,

try bplay: apt-get install bplay

Greetz,
Sebastiaan


On Wed, 2 May 2001, Jan Torben Heuer wrote:

> Hi,
> I'm looking for "play" (used by licq) anyone know which package could contain 
> it? Or any other program (should work with arts)
> 
> thanx,
> 
>   Jan Torben
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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V101 #529

2001-05-02 Thread K. Matthew Victor
>
>
> Subject: Re: Any hope of help? or suggestions?
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 10:04:12 -0400
> From: Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 
>
> Subject: Any hope of help? or suggestions?
> Date: Wed, May 02, 2001 at 04:35:39AM +
>
> In reply to:K. Matthew Victor
>
> Quoting K. Matthew Victor([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > "K. Matthew Victor" wrote:
> >
> > > "K. Matthew Victor" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Please give me a hand straightening this muddle up.
> > > > I need to figure out how to get the printer daemon back up and working.
> -
> > > > (6): My old printer is no longer avail. to me (reassigned to a different
> > > > facility), it was an HP LaserJet 1100.
> > > > Thank you in advance. K. Matthew Victor
> > >
> > > PS. lpc start does not do the trick.
> > > I'll root around the Running Linux book and snoop around in the man pages 
> > > a
> > > bit.
> > > tia, K. Matthew Victor.
> >
> > I sure could use some suggestions here. Is it possible that I accidently
> > removed the local print daemon? TIA, Matt
> try
> whereis lpd
> lpd: /usr/sbin/lpd /usr/share/man/man8/lpd.8.gz
>
> if you get that then, no you didn't delete it
>
> is it running
> ps aux |grep lpd
> root   374  0.0  0.0  1352   32 ?SApr29   0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd
>
> is it running?  No then
> /etc/init.d/lpd restart
>
> HTH=Hope This Helps, YMMV=Your Mileage May Vary, HAND=Have A Nice Day
>
> --
> Warning, keyboard not found. Press Enter to continue.
> ___
>

Thank you for the help, thus far no joy!
Results from the suggested commands:
$  whereis lpd
lpd: /usr/sbin/lpd
su  
# ps -aux |grep lpd
Bad syntax, perhaps a bogus'-'
root 218  0.0  0.1  1212   548  ?   SMay01  0:00  [lpd]
matthew  3565  0.0  0.1   1112   444 pts/0   S   12:02   0:00  grep  lpd

It looks to be running, however, I issued the restart command:
storm:/home/matthew#  /etc/init.d/lpd restart
Stopping printer spooler: lpd not running.
Starting printer spooler: lpr.
#man lpc  -t |lpr
lpr: connect: Connection refused
jobs queued, but cannot start daemon
# man lpc |lpr
same return as above, also as normal user. This command sequence used to work, 
untill yesterday when this fun began.
Triying to print from inside an app. (Netscape) does not result in output to 
the printer.
Is it possible to use apt to reinstall the stuff that seems broken? TIA, Matt.




Re: FW: Sendmail

2001-05-02 Thread Rich Puhek
How are you trying to "start sendmail"? If you are just trying
"sendmail" as root, you're not starting the daemon up to listen for
incoming mail, you're invoking the sendmail program as if you want to
create a message. Try (as root) "/etc/init.d/sendmail start" and see
what you get. 

Sendmail is a bear to set up at first. It's a great MTA, very capable,
but can be a bit intimidating to configure. If your needs on the box are
fairly simple, you may want to consider using exim instead.

As something else to consider: Do you need to receive mail on that box?
For most of my machines, I have absolutely no need to receive email
directly on the machine. The only machines I run sendmail on are those
that are actual mail servers (those that are either receiving email for
my domains or those that are relaying mail for my clients). The rest of
my servers need to be able to send email (so that daemons can send error
messages to me, and stuff like that). For all those servers, I run Exim
setup to use a mail server as a smarthost. Most importantly, I remove
exim from inetd.conf, so that they're never used to relay mail.

--Rich


Peter Donaldson wrote:
> 
> I tried sendmailconfig but still i am having the same problem. I also can
> not receive mail through that box :(
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ktb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:40 AM
> To: Debian Users
> Subject: Re: Sendmail
> 
> On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 11:26:26AM +1000, Peter Donaldson wrote:
> > I have been having a problem with sendmail for a while but because i am
> just
> > playing with linux it hasn't really bothered me that much. But could
> someone
> > please healp me out. When i go to start sendmail it is giving me this
> > message--> peter... Recipient names must be specified <-- Help
> would
> > b greatly appreciated :)
> >
> 
> Have you tried setting it up with "sendmailconfig"?
> kent
> 
>

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Re: play - or other program to play waves...

2001-05-02 Thread Terry Warner
apt-get install sox

That will provide the play command :)

Terry

On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 07:58:16PM +0200, Jan Torben Heuer babbled:
> Hi,
> I'm looking for "play" (used by licq) anyone know which package could contain 
> it? Or any other program (should work with arts)
> 
> thanx,
> 
>   Jan Torben
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IRQ 0 for 3C900 Combo PCI?

2001-05-02 Thread Matt Thompson
Greetings, list :)

I just set up a server in our office here in Houston with the above
mentioned card.  When the system boots, the 3Com ethernet card comes up
with IRQ 0 which, of course, doesn't work.

WTF??? :)

Any help anyone could give would be GREATLY appreciated since I'm supposed
to fly home to Seattle tomorrow.

Cheers..

Matt Thompson   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Network Administrator
Williamson & Associates
http://www.wassoc.com



play - or other program to play waves...

2001-05-02 Thread Jan Torben Heuer
Hi,
I'm looking for "play" (used by licq) anyone know which package could contain 
it? Or any other program (should work with arts)

thanx,

Jan Torben
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Re: How to uncompress a *.lzh in Debian?

2001-05-02 Thread Alan Shutko
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I find a package of lha, I guess it can only archive files
> into a *.lzh but not do the reverse. Thanks in advance.

It should be able to decompress those files.  Iirc, it's 

lha x filename.lzh

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If it ain't broke, don't fix it.



Re: kde2

2001-05-02 Thread Sean Quinlan
* Jaye Inabnit ke6sls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (2001-05-02 17:25):
> On Wednesday 02 May 2001 08:06, David Richards wrote:
> > I have just got linux format in the uk and it has kde2.1 on the cd. Has
> > anyone installed it yet and will i be able to get any packages that it will
> > needs, that arent included on the cd via apt-get ?
> 
> Linux format? Maybe you mean linux *distro*?

Linux Format is a Linux magazine distributed in the UK.

> kde2 afaik doesn't ship with debian (but anyone could if they wanted to). The 
> latest potato builds are available, go to http://kde.debian.net and it will 
> tell you how to set your apt source.list up. I'm using it now, and it still 
> has a few quirks yet is a very full featured gui. I think you will enjoy 
> using it.

IIRC when Linux Format shipped a copy of Helix Gnome on their CD, it
was only in rpm format.  Its highly unlikely that they'll put debs
onto it as well, since they try and cater for the majority of users
(who will probably have an rpm based distro).

The best thing to do is to check the contents of the CD for any .deb
files and install them via dpkg -i if they are. But more
than likely they only have the rpms and you'll be better off
installing it by modifying your sources.list with the instructions on
the link above.

-- 
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Re: Printing text

2001-05-02 Thread David Wright
Quoting Stephen E. Hargrove ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> I'm still chasing my text problem.  I've installed magicfilter, and it
> prints postscript files just fine.  However, text files suffer from the
> dreaded stair-step problem.  Following is my printcap file.  Any
> suggestions would be most appreciated.
> 
> # This file was generated by /usr/sbin/magicfilterconfig.
> #
> lp|lp|HP Laserjet 4L:\
> :lp=:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:rm=192.168.2.50:rp=:lpr_bounce=true:\
> :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\
> :if=/etc/magicfilter/ljet4l-filter:\
> :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:

Three ways:

1) Look at the last line of ljet4l-filter and find out why it
doesn't fix the problem. Some of the filters use "text" instead
of "cat" which may make the filter do something special (as my
modified Epson filters do). Obviously I don't have a clue what
cat \eE\e&k2G\e(0N  \eE
is meant to do.

2) Use a2ps to turn the text file into postscript (and much, much
more of course). I never print text files as is.

3) Some printers have a "text" queue as well as a "raw" queue so that
you can have a separate entry in printcap:

:rm=999.888.777.63:\
:rp=raw:\  groks PS

:rm=999.888.777.63:\
:rp=text:\ groks text with any old line-ending char

Cheers,

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Re: Parallel zips

2001-05-02 Thread straylite
You'll need the parport (and I think the parport_pc) as well as the imm modules.

At Wed, 2 May 2001 14:09 +0100 (BST) , [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Harper) wrote: 

>I am sure this must be an FAQ, but I cannot find it.
>
>Is it possible to use the standard Debian install process (Debian 2.2 r2) to 
>set up an external, parallel port 250Mb Iomega Zip drive? If so, what 
>modules / parameters do I need?
>
>I have tried the imm module, but this will not install. (It just tells me 
>that "Device or resource busy". It adds, of course, that this can be caused 
>by incorrect parameters, but it will not accept any parameters I can think 
>to give it.

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Error while rsyncing - "@ERROR: chroot failed"

2001-05-02 Thread Robb Kidd
I get an "@ERROR: chroot failed" while trying:
rsync --dry-run --port 8731 ftp.nuri.net::freeiso/debian-cd/*

I don't recall needing to run rsync with any special permissions.  What
could I have done wrong?



Splitting Apache logs

2001-05-02 Thread Russell Coker
I am in the middle of writing a program to split CLF format log files (as 
produced by Apache and most other web servers) based on the domain name of 
the server.  The idea is that log data for http://www.coker.com.au/ will go 
into the file coker.com.au and log data for http://www.workbenelux.nl/ will 
go into the file workbenelux.nl.
Before someone suggests making Apache log to multiple files, this doesn't 
work if you one of the following situations:
1)  More domains on the web server than Apache can have open file handles (IE 
more than 1020 domains for older kernels/libc/Apache or 60,000 to 80,000 
domains for if you are running the latest software).
2)  If you are dynamically adding domains in bulk, adding 100 domains a day 
would require 100 changes to config files and 100 restarts if you have a file 
per domain - this is not practical.

I plan to add my domain-based log splitting program to my logtools package in 
the near future.  I have attached the man page for what I plan to write.

I would like to receive suggestions both on functionality and on any issues 
regarding the documentation (if you don't understand the man page then let me 
know).

Please respond to this message directly to me.  I am not subscribed to 
debian-user.

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Re: postgresql do.maintenance messages

2001-05-02 Thread Ramin Motakef
"Oliver Elphick"  writes:

> Ramin Motakef wrote:
>   >Hi,
>   >since updateting postgres to 7.1 i get the followin mails from the
>   >do.maintenance cron job:
>   >
>   >NOTICE:  Cache reference leak: cache pg_operator (15), tuple 666 has count 
> 1
>  ...
>   >I have no idea what that means
>  
> 
> Please run VACUUM on individual databases till you find out where it's
> coming from.  Let me know if it happens with or without the ANALYZE
> option to VACUUM.
> 
> Within the database, run VACUUM on individual tables so that we can pin
> it down to a particular table (or tables).
> 

Hi,
i found the database and the table. I had to use vacuum analyse to
find it.

This table is not in in use, so it is no problem to drop
it. Interestingly it has a unnamed column with unknown type:

online=# \d einheiten 
   Table "einheiten"
 Attribute |  Type   | Modifier 
---+-+--
 ?column?  | unknown | 
 sum   | integer | 

online=# select * from einheiten;
 ?column? | sum 
--+-
 April-98 | 169
(1 row)

If I can do something more analysing the problem please tell me,
otherwise i will drop the table (or the db, as it is only of
historical interest :-) ).

Thanks  
Ramin



Re: netatalk setup gaflooey

2001-05-02 Thread will trillich
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 08:45:19AM -0700, Eric Richardson wrote:
> Even though my atalkd starts fine I thought this sounded like a good
> idea.
> 
> I did this by commenting out the following in /etc/init.d/netatalk.
> /usr/sbin/atalkd
> echo -n " atalkd"
> 
> > /etc/netatalk/afpd.conf:
> > hostname   -tcp  -noddp -nosetpassword -nouservol -noguest
> 
> Is hostname arbitrary? 

i'm not sure -- i think it's what shows up on your connecting mac
as "server name" once you get past the 'ip address' dialog.

> output:
> 
> /etc/init.d/netatalk start
> Starting AppleTalk Daemons (this will take a while):bind: Cannot assign
> requested address
> bind: Cannot assign requested address
>  afpd papd.

according to ethan's recommendation, you don't need to run
netatalk as a daemon -- it runs nicely as a tcp-induced
hallucination... which is apparently what

# cat >> /etc/netatalk/afpd.conf
macFileServer   -tcp  -noddp -nosetpassword -nouservol -noguest
^D

facilitates. (correct me if i'm wrong, folks.)

> # update-rc.d -f netatalk remove
> What is Will doing here?

following instructions. :)

"man update-rc.d" shows that it's the Debian tool to use when
changing /etc/rc*.d/* links to your /etc/init.d/* scripts.
now i still have the /etc/init.d/netatalk script if i want to use
it (/etc/init.d/netatalk start, for example) but there's not a
single link to it in any of the /etc/rc?.d/* directories, meaning
it won't be initiated (as a daemon) during boot or runlevel
switching.

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:
Looking to use your Debian machine as a FIREWALL? No problem!
Try "apt-get install ipmasq"... After you've got your
/etc/network/interfaces file set up properly, ipmasq will
save you lots of work, setting up firewall and routing
tables automatically.

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Re: Netscape 4.77 - spell checker

2001-05-02 Thread Eric Richardson
Keith O'Connell wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I recently went from Netscape 4.76 to 4.77 via stable and have just
> noticed that the spell check option is greyed out on the menues now.

I noticed this too. I also found that emacs didn't have spell checking
and was looking for ispell so I loaded ispell but then emacs couldn't
find /usr/lib/ispell/default.hash.

Maybe a dictionary has to be installed?

Any help would be appreciated.
Eric



How to uncompress a *.lzh in Debian?

2001-05-02 Thread wen
Hi, everyone,
Is there any package can handle a *.lzh archived file in Debian?
I find a package of lha, I guess it can only archive files
into a *.lzh but not do the reverse. Thanks in advance.

Regards,

--Wen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: kde2

2001-05-02 Thread Jaye Inabnit ke6sls

Hello David,

Linux format? Maybe you mean linux *distro*?

kde2 afaik doesn't ship with debian (but anyone could if they wanted to). The 
latest potato builds are available, go to http://kde.debian.net and it will 
tell you how to set your apt source.list up. I'm using it now, and it still 
has a few quirks yet is a very full featured gui. I think you will enjoy 
using it.

best of luck to you.

On Wednesday 02 May 2001 08:06, David Richards wrote:
> I have just got linux format in the uk and it has kde2.1 on the cd. Has
> anyone installed it yet and will i be able to get any packages that it will
> needs, that arent included on the cd via apt-get ?
>
>
> regards
>
> david

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Printing text

2001-05-02 Thread Stephen E. Hargrove
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

I'm still chasing my text problem.  I've installed magicfilter, and it
prints postscript files just fine.  However, text files suffer from the
dreaded stair-step problem.  Following is my printcap file.  Any
suggestions would be most appreciated.

# This file was generated by /usr/sbin/magicfilterconfig.
#
lp|lp|HP Laserjet 4L:\
:lp=:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:rm=192.168.2.50:rp=:lpr_bounce=true:\
:sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\
:if=/etc/magicfilter/ljet4l-filter:\
:af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org

iD8DBQE68DQ8r9c0KwefYXMRAowJAJ4vCfterOZU/fWPw7zyHpLIXyPtAgCfZRT2
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large files in potato?

2001-05-02 Thread Gregory Carl Kettler
How much effort would it take for me to enable support for large
(>2GB) files in a i386 potato system?  I'm running kernel 2.4.3; it looks
like I would also have to use a newer version of glibc.  If I installed a
version of glibc from testing or unstable, would it work, or am I still
missing something?

Greg Kettler

"Of course, if you're writing the code to control a cruise missile, you
may not actually need an explicit loop exit.  The loop will be terminated
automatically at the appropriate moment."
-Programming Perl, 3rd Ed.



Netscape 4.77 - spell checker

2001-05-02 Thread Keith O'Connell
Hi,

I recently went from Netscape 4.76 to 4.77 via stable and have just
noticed that the spell check option is greyed out on the menues now.

What should I do to get the spell checker back?
What idiot thing am I likly to have done to have lost it?

I also noticed, whilst I am on the subject, that even when I had 4.76
running  and the spell checker worked, the custom.dic file never took
any of the words I wanted to add to it. it remains at a zero file length

What is likly to be wrong with my setup here?


Keith.

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Re: [Q]Internet phone server

2001-05-02 Thread Jaye Inabnit ke6sls

On Tuesday 01 May 2001 12:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> ke6sls> take a look at gphone. It's a pretty small packages and will let
> you talk to ke6sls> both fellow gphone users, and speakfreely users.
^^^
And it's free and *also* available for linux, but isn't working with the new 
audio drivers I'm using. *But*, ghone works great on my linux box, and talks 
with rtp very well to speakfreely users.

hth

>
> Thanks. I have noticed it. But it seems that gphone only works on
> UNIX/Linux platform. How can we talk with a Windows user by gphone?
>
> Regards,
>
> --Wen
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Printer Failure

2001-05-02 Thread Steve Gran
let's see - I've tried adding a form feed character at the end of foo.txt - 
still fails silently.  I added the IO address and IRQ line /etc/modules.conf 
(and just to see if it would work to /etc/modules).  I have no file 
/etc/modules/parport (hmmm . . .)  I also just looked at /var/log/lp-errs, and 
it says /etc/magicfilter/pnm2ppa-720-color-eco-filter  --  Interrupted System 
Call.  I think I have finally found something that at least realizes there is a 
problem, although when I cat directly to the printer port I should bypass this. 
 Can anyone tell me what this means?  I have seen somewhere that the report 
that it is using IRQ -1 only means that it is not using interrupt driven 
printinfg, but is using polling instead, which is what it had been using when 
it worked fine.  Getting a little frustrated, although it could be worse - I 
don't have to print that often.

Thanks again,
Steve




On Sun, 29 April 2001, "Karl E. Jorgensen" wrote:

 The box is a Debian Woody distro running on an AMD K6-400, I 
> > use lpr to print and I have an HP 712C, which up until now ran fine.  
> > Two weeks ago, I upgraded my kernel to v2.4.2 to take advantage of the 
> > AGP port feature, and at about the same time I did a apt-get upgrade.  
> > Now my printer fails silently - no error messages, no printout.
>  
> > I've tried lpr foo.text - if it's a large enough file, I can see it 
> > momentarily in the lpq, but it dissapears very quickly.
> > 
> > I've tried cat foo.txt > /dev/lp0, and I get a small pause as it does 
> > this, and then nothing.
> 
> That's interesting... I don't know the in's and out's of your printer model,
> but I would have expected something to come out. Did your file contain a
> ^L (=form feed) at the end? Might be worth adding.
> 
> > 
> > tunelp /dev/lp0 -s reports status 216, on-line
> > 
> > tunelp /dev/lp0 -r reports lp0 online, using IRQ -1 (hmmm. . . dmesg tells 
> > me that parport0 is using IRQ 7, which is what it should be using.)
> 
> Very odd. I *think* I had that too, before I added 
> options parport_pc io=0x378 irq=3 dma=3
> to /etc/modules.conf (/etc/modutils/parport actually followed by 
> update-modules). You may want to do something similar (but set it to whatever
> you BIOS is set to - the above settings are my current ones).
> 
> > lpc> enable all shows that qeueing is enabled
> > 
> > I regenerated the magicfilterconfig file - no better (although I would 
> > think that catting to lp0 should bypass the filter, so this shouldn'
> > t have been the problem.)
> > 
> > I can't think of anything else to do - I've even tried rebooting and 
> > reconfiguring the kernel so that it's all compiled in instead of having all 
> > the lp and parport functions as modules.  Still nothing.
> > 
> > If anybody can help, I'd really appreciate it.  I can't find any 
> > documentation about kernel v.2.4.2 - is this a known bug?  I admit I 
> > haven't 
> > looked all that hard, as I'm between ISP's right now and I only have acces 
> > at work.
> > 
> > Thanks again.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> 




Re: Help now unable to print or restart lpd

2001-05-02 Thread Steve Gran
Try  /etc/init.d/lpd start or /etc/init.d/lpd restart - that's how the daemon 
is managed.  if that doesn't work for some reason, try lpcenable all.  
These should start the lpd daemon.  if you still can't print reasonable looking 
pages, magicfilterconfig will let you set up the appropriate filters for your 
printer.  good luck.


On Tue, 01 May 2001, "K. Matthew Victor" wrote:

> 
> "K. Matthew Victor" wrote:
> 
> > "K. Matthew Victor" wrote:
> >
> > > Please give me a hand straightening this muddle up.
> > > I need to figure out how to get the printer daemon back up and working.
> > > (1): Storm Linux 2000- upgraded with Debian 2.2r2 from CD-ROMs from Mr
> > > "O's Linux  using apt-get  -cdrom to build the sources.list (this went
> > > very smoothly, and I've been running it for 3+ weeks).
> > > (2): I have to change my printer driver for a new HP1220cse DeskJet- so
> > > I first used printtool which worked to print the test pages, but did not
> > > update /etc/printcap. So I tried to use the Storm SAS which does not
> > > list the HP1220, therefore I attempted to use the HP1000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > It started to print garbage on 30+ sheets.
> > > (3): Since I could not remember the kill command for the printer spool
> > > que I issued lpq as root. It definitely stopped the show!!
> > > (4): Several reboots later, issuing lpq status as user returns "no
> > > daemon present". Though a look at the scrolling status as boot up
> > > proceeds  shows "starting lpddone".
> > > (5): Attempting to print a file at the command line : less
> > > /var/log/dmesg |lpr   (lpr: connect: Connection refused   jobs qued ,
> > > but cannot start daemon.
> > > (6): My old printer is no longer avail. to me (reassigned to a different
> > > facility), it was an HP LaserJet 1100.
> > > Thank you in advance. K. Matthew Victor
> >
> > PS. lpc start does not do the trick.
> > I'll root around the Running Linux book and snoop around in the man pages a
> > bit.
> > tia, K. Matthew Victor.
> 
> 
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Re: netatalk setup gaflooey

2001-05-02 Thread Eric Richardson
Ethan Benson wrote:
> 
> On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 09:07:00PM -0500, will trillich wrote:
> > trying to install netatalk for macintosh file serving capabilities, and the
> > setup script goes all fuxnored(tm). is this something i caused? or can
> > cure?
> >
> >   # apt-get install netatalk
> >   ...
> >   Setting up netatalk (1.4b2+asun2.1.3-6) ...
> >   Starting AppleTalk Daemons (this will take a while):socket: Invalid 
> > argument
> >   socket: Invalid argument
> >   atalkd: can't get interfaces, exiting.
> >atalkd afpd papd.
> 
> it means you don't have CrappleTalk compiled into your kernel. but the
> good news is you don't need it.  just rewrite the initscript to not
> start atalkd and use the following configuration for afpd:

Even though my atalkd starts fine I thought this sounded like a good
idea.

I did this by commenting out the following in /etc/init.d/netatalk.
/usr/sbin/atalkd
echo -n " atalkd"

> 
> /etc/netatalk/afpd.conf:
> hostname   -tcp  -noddp -nosetpassword -nouservol -noguest

Is hostname arbitrary? 
I noticed in the init script, afpd -n "$servername", where servername is
the short host name.
I also saw in the afpd.conf file that you could use - for the default
host name but this didn't work either.

output:

/etc/init.d/netatalk start
Starting AppleTalk Daemons (this will take a while):bind: Cannot assign
requested address
bind: Cannot assign requested address
 afpd papd.


# update-rc.d -f netatalk remove
What is Will doing here?

Thanks for any help,
Eric :-)



Re: debian package mirrors

2001-05-02 Thread Matus \"fantomas\" Uhlar
-> >-> >i using rsync mirror script d'l-ed from debian web page.
-> >-> 
-> >-> Which one?
-> >-> 
-> >->   http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-0011/msg01827.html
-> >
-> >http://www.debian.org/mirror/anonftpsync
-> 
-> That's very old, and doesn't seem to know about pools. The one I quoted
-> is billed as a working pool-aware partial mirror script.

well, pool is just subdirectory in the hierarchy, why should it work badly?

-> >(58GB here - seems too much)
-> 
-> Sounds like you're mirroring the whole archive.

yes, but it was ~30GB just some weeks (months) ago...

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 Atheism is a non-prophet organization. 



Re: postgresql do.maintenance messages

2001-05-02 Thread Oliver Elphick
Ramin Motakef wrote:
  >Hi,
  >since updateting postgres to 7.1 i get the followin mails from the
  >do.maintenance cron job:
  >
  >NOTICE:  Cache reference leak: cache pg_operator (15), tuple 666 has count 1
 ...
  >I have no idea what that means
 

/*
 *AtEOXact_CatCache
 *
 * Clean up catcaches at end of transaction (either commit or abort)
 *
 * We scan the caches to reset refcounts to zero.  This is of course
 * necessary in the abort case, since elog() may have interrupted routines.
 * In the commit case, any nonzero counts indicate failure to call
 * ReleaseSysCache, so we put out a notice for debugging purposes.
 *
 */

Please run VACUUM on individual databases till you find out where it's
coming from.  Let me know if it happens with or without the ANALYZE
option to VACUUM.

Within the database, run VACUUM on individual tables so that we can pin
it down to a particular table (or tables).

-- 
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GPG: 1024D/3E1D0C1C: CA12 09E0 E8D5 8870 5839  932A 614D 4C34 3E1D 0C1C
 
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Re: changing console framebuffer modes

2001-05-02 Thread Alexander Zhuckov
> John Kerr Anderson (JKA) writes:

 JKA> This is what happens when I try to run the commands: fbset
 JKA> 640x480-72

 JKA> error message: ioctl FBIOPUT_VSCREENINFO: Invalid argument

 JKA> or

 JKA> fbset --all 640-480-72 gives the same exact error message.

 JKA> Is there something that is not set up properly?  Any suggestions
 JKA> would be helpful!  :-)

May be you compiled only frambuffer support and none of framebuffer
drivers?  You should compile vesa or one of the framebuffer drivers
for supported chipsets.

Do you run these commands as root and from linux console?

If you compiled drivers as modules do you load drivers (e.g. with
modprobe) before fbset?

I have no other ideas. fbset worked fine for me when I used
framebuffer.
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Re: Any hope of help? or suggestions?

2001-05-02 Thread Bob Nielsen
The first place to look for printing help is Grant Taylor's excellent
http://www.linuxprinting.org site.  Unfortunately, it doesn't give any
complete solutions for this printer, but there are some suggestions
there.  I would recommend installing the latest (non-free) gs-aladdin,
plus lprng and magicfilter.  You might want to experiment with a few of
the Deskjet filters in magicfilter to see which works best for you. 
Since this is a PCL-3 printer, you should get some correct output, but
you will probably not get the full performance advertised.

Also, check the HP web site for any available drivers.

Other possibilities include gimp-print and CUPS.  I don't know how well
they would support this printer.

Bob 

On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 04:35:39AM +, K. Matthew Victor wrote:
> "K. Matthew Victor" wrote:
> 
> > "K. Matthew Victor" wrote:
> >
> > > Please give me a hand straightening this muddle up.
> > > I need to figure out how to get the printer daemon back up and working.
> > > (1): Storm Linux 2000- upgraded with Debian 2.2r2 from CD-ROMs from Mr
> > > "O's Linux  using apt-get  -cdrom to build the sources.list (this went
> > > very smoothly, and I've been running it for 3+ weeks).
> > > (2): I have to change my printer driver for a new HP1220cse DeskJet- so
> > > I first used printtool which worked to print the test pages, but did not
> > > update /etc/printcap. So I tried to use the Storm SAS which does not
> > > list the HP1220, therefore I attempted to use the HP1000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > It started to print garbage on 30+ sheets.
> > > (3): Since I could not remember the kill command for the printer spool
> > > que I issued lpq as root. It definitely stopped the show!!
> > > (4): Several reboots later, issuing lpq status as user returns "no
> > > daemon present". Though a look at the scrolling status as boot up
> > > proceeds  shows "starting lpddone".
> > > (5): Attempting to print a file at the command line : less
> > > /var/log/dmesg |lpr   (lpr: connect: Connection refused   jobs qued ,
> > > but cannot start daemon.
> > > (6): My old printer is no longer avail. to me (reassigned to a different
> > > facility), it was an HP LaserJet 1100.
> > > Thank you in advance. K. Matthew Victor
> >
> > PS. lpc start does not do the trick.
> > I'll root around the Running Linux book and snoop around in the man pages a
> > bit.
> > tia, K. Matthew Victor.
> 
> I sure could use some suggestions here. Is it possible that I accidently
> removed the local print daemon? TIA, Matt
> 



dpkg --configure -a seg faulting

2001-05-02 Thread The Doctor

Just like it says. I was running apt-get update/upgrade  this am ( I run 
unstable) and now I can't configure any packages I install. 

Like so:

Setting up xspecs (4.0.3-1) ...

Setting up xvfb (4.0.3-1) ...

Segmentation fault

# dpkg --configure -a
Segmentation fault


Any one else have this happen? Any way out before I reboot my laptop before 
going home tonight??
--The Dr.



Re: debian package mirrors

2001-05-02 Thread Colin Watson
"Matus \"fantomas\" Uhlar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>-> >i using rsync mirror script d'l-ed from debian web page.
>-> 
>-> Which one?
>-> 
>->   http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-0011/msg01827.html
>
>http://www.debian.org/mirror/anonftpsync

That's very old, and doesn't seem to know about pools. The one I quoted
is billed as a working pool-aware partial mirror script.

>how mush does your mirror take?

I don't have one, so feel free to ignore me if you want. :)

>(58GB here - seems too much)

Sounds like you're mirroring the whole archive.

-- 
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]



kde2

2001-05-02 Thread David Richards
I have just got linux format in the uk and it has kde2.1 on the cd. Has
anyone installed it yet and will i be able to get any packages that it will
needs, that arent included on the cd via apt-get ?


regards 

david



Re: debian package mirrors

2001-05-02 Thread Matus \"fantomas\" Uhlar
-> >-> On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 09:45:59PM +0100, Dean Liversidge wrote:
-> >-> > Are the debian package trees being reorganised ?
-> >-> 
-> >-> Yes when new testing/unstable was introduced.
-> >-> 
-> >-> Mirror pool to get it working.  I mirroed OK using fmirror.  I posted
-> >-> script to do it within 24 hours.  See archive on web page. 
-> >
-> >well, my mirror now taket much more spa e then it did before. Any way to fix
-> >it? aren't some packages in hierarchy twice?
-> >
-> >i using rsync mirror script d'l-ed from debian web page.
-> 
-> Which one?
-> 
->   http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-0011/msg01827.html

http://www.debian.org/mirror/anonftpsync

how mush does your mirror take?
(58GB here - seems too much)
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Re: ReiserFS + 2.4.4

2001-05-02 Thread mdevin
Here is what I did step by step on 2 separate computers to change over to
reiserfs.

First of all you must have a partition large enough to hold everything.  Lets
say you have 4 partitions and part4 is big enough to hold everything.
Lets say the 4 partitions are mounted as /boot, swap, /, /var.   You may have
more that this but you can just extrapolate from this.  So here is what the
partition table would look like:
part1  /boot
part2  swap
part3  /
part4  /var
The first thing to do is copy the /var partition over to the / partition so that
you get a spare partition.  (hopefully you have enough space to do this on /).
Then you will be able to make part4 spare.
So here is what you would do:
stop the daemons which are accessing /var - sysklogd etc.  Then unmount /var.  I
had trouble finding all the necessary daemons to stop to do this so what I did
was edit /etc/fstab and make part4 mount on /newdisk instead of /var, make a dir
called /newdisk and then reboot.  Now this will cause all the logging daemons
etc. to complain at startup but the system will still boot and you will still be
able to login OK and all the /var stuff will be mounted as /newdisk.
then copy over the /newdisk stuff onto /var  (Nb. you have to copy over each of
the separate subdirectories in /newdisk separately otherwise you will end up
with something like /var/newdisk/subdirectories when what you want is
/var/subdirectories
So you just do:
cp -avx /newdisk/backups /var/
cp -avx /newdisk/cache /var/
cp -avx /newdisk/lib /var/
. you get the idea.
You now have a spare partition (part4) which you can umount and mkreiserfs.
umount /newdisk
mkreiserfs /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part4  (if you use devfs notation)
edit /etc/fstab and change it so that part4 mounts as reiserfs, something like:
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part4 /newdisk reiserfs defaults0  0
mount /newdisk  (now reiserfs)
Now since part4 is large enough to hold everything you can just copy everything
over to it.
cp -avx / /newdisk
Edit /newdisk/etc/fstab and change things so that / mounts on part4 as reiserfs
and part3 is left unmounted.
Edit /newdisk/etc/lilo.conf
change root to: /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part4
Don't need to change the other stuff cause it is better to leave /boot as is
(ext2)
Update the mbr and map etc for lilo (for the new boot configuration) with this:
/sbin/lilo -C /newdisk/etc/lilo.conf
Then reboot
Now running reiserfs with partitions as follows:
/boot on part1  (ext2)
swap on part2
/ on part4  (reiserfs)
Then you can
mkreiserfs /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3
edit /etc/fstab and change it so that part3 mounts as reiserfs on /newdisk
mount /newdisk
then copy over the /var stuff onto /newdisk  (Nb. you have to copy over each of
the separate subdirectories in /var separately again as explained above.
cp -avx /var/backups /newdisk/
cp -avx /var/cache /newdisk/
cp -avx /var/lib /newdisk/
. and so on.
Then just do rm -rf /var
mkdir /var
edit /etc/fstab and change the part3 line so that it mounts as /var instead of
/newdisk
reboot.

Now you should have:
part1  /boot (ext2)
part2  swap
part3  /var (reiserfs)
part4  / (reiserfs)

You will probably have other partitions than this, eg /home, /usr.  If your /var
partition is not big enough to hold everything then perhaps one of these other
ones is.  Just change the above so that you use this other one instead.

Hope that helps a little.

Cheers.

Mark.



Re: fetchmail, mutt, imapd and netscape

2001-05-02 Thread Keith G. Murphy
Karsten Bolding wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
> Here is what I want:
> get mail via fetchmail - sort into maildir format (~/Maildir) - works!
> use mutt to read mail when at the console - works!
> Run an imapd to serve the ~/Maildir directory structure - problems
> Use netscape to read mail when not at console - problems
> 
> I've tried both uw-imapd and courier-imapd - with the same result.
> My problem is - in netscape I only see and empty INBOX and not my
> ~/Maildir structure. The different directories in ~/Maildir is created
> by setting the default mail box format in .muttrc to maildir.
> 
Maybe you should delete everything back out and do maildirmake instead
of letting Mutt do this.  Not guaranteeing anything, it's just what I'd
try.  

I have a setup that's perfectly usable from Netscape, but I didn't let
mutt create the directories (or run mutt at all).



Re: libssl096

2001-05-02 Thread Sridhar M.A.
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 10:05:36AM +0530, Raghavendra Bhat wrote:
   > 
   > libssl096 is a virtual package.  This is provided by
   > libssl0.9.6.  You can get this by adding the line
   > 

Thanks for the link. But, I could not find the file there. What I 
found was libssl09_0.9.4-5.deb. Does this provide libssl096?

Thanks,
-- 
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You will gain money by an illegal action.



tcpdump broken by upgrade (Potato)

2001-05-02 Thread Wayne Topa
Has anyone else (using the 2.4.4 kernel packages) lost tcpdump?

apt-get install tcpdump
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely
that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  tcpdump: Depends: libpcap0 (>= 0.4-1) but it is not going to be
  installed
  E: Sorry, broken packages

  This in on Potato.

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Smart companies install Debian Linux and just enjoy it. 
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Re: Problems with printing

2001-05-02 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: Re: Problems with printing
Date: Wed, May 02, 2001 at 06:59:34AM -

In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> Well, Wayne, I don't really think a Debian potato distribution fails in a 
> strategic and basic piece of software such as apsfilter. I rather think 
> there's something wrong in my configuration relating to authorizations but I 
> don't know where and what to manipulate. Perhaps I missed to define some 
> special group, or whatever else.
> What strikes me is that the test which apsfilterconfig suggests works great, 
> while any following attempt to print dies unexpectedly.
> Any suggestion to fix it before eliminating apsfilter?
> Vittorio
> 

Well I messed with it for a few hours and could never get it to print
anything as nice as the test page (which was really nice).  I read all
the docs but could not get the results I wanted on the printer.  I am
sure that it is a good package as many people do use it.  I just could
not get it working correctly.

That said, maybe someone else can point you to what need fixing.

Magicfilter took less then 5 minutes to get working and another few
minutes to set up a2ps and i was up and runing.  I needed a working
printer so I took the path of least resistance.

BTW, you should set your lines to a 70-72 char length for this list.

Good luck!  You should be getting responses from those who did get
apsfilter running.

regards
-- 
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taught how __not to.  So it is with the great programmers.
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Re: Any hope of help? or suggestions?

2001-05-02 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: Any hope of help? or suggestions?
Date: Wed, May 02, 2001 at 04:35:39AM +

In reply to:K. Matthew Victor

Quoting K. Matthew Victor([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> "K. Matthew Victor" wrote:
> 
> > "K. Matthew Victor" wrote:
> >
> > > Please give me a hand straightening this muddle up.
> > > I need to figure out how to get the printer daemon back up and working.
- 
> > > (6): My old printer is no longer avail. to me (reassigned to a different
> > > facility), it was an HP LaserJet 1100.
> > > Thank you in advance. K. Matthew Victor
> >
> > PS. lpc start does not do the trick.
> > I'll root around the Running Linux book and snoop around in the man pages a
> > bit.
> > tia, K. Matthew Victor.
> 
> I sure could use some suggestions here. Is it possible that I accidently
> removed the local print daemon? TIA, Matt
try
whereis lpd
lpd: /usr/sbin/lpd /usr/share/man/man8/lpd.8.gz

if you get that then, no you didn't delete it

is it running
ps aux |grep lpd
root   374  0.0  0.0  1352   32 ?SApr29   0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd

is it running?  No then
/etc/init.d/lpd restart

HTH=Hope This Helps, YMMV=Your Mileage May Vary, HAND=Have A Nice Day

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Re: Timeout for shell script

2001-05-02 Thread Moritz Schulte
Andre Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Thanks... but still I'd like to know if it's possible to use a shell
> script with a timeout, in general.

Have a look at /usr/share/doc/bash/examples/scripts/timeout.gz (in
package 'bash-doc').

hth,
moritz
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Re: [Q]Internet phone server

2001-05-02 Thread wen
Yes, it is. I will try it soon. Thank you so much.

Regards,

--Wen
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mark> OpenH323 application ohphone  
mark> $http://packages.debian.org/unstable/comm/ohphone.html  will talk to
mark> Microsoft Netmeeting which I think will do what you want.



Re: /proc/kcore

2001-05-02 Thread David Z. Maze
Renai LeMay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
RL> can someone tell me what the file /proc/kcore is used for?

The /proc filesystem consists entirely of virtual files created by the 
kernel for various purposes.  kcore happens to be an image of the
system memory; it's probably useful for kernel debugging.  If you
check with 'ls -l', /proc/kcore should have the same size as your
system memory, but the "file" doesn't actually take up any disk space
anywhere.

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Re: Parallel zips

2001-05-02 Thread David Wright
Quoting David Harper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> I am sure this must be an FAQ, but I cannot find it.
> 
> Is it possible to use the standard Debian install process (Debian 2.2 r2) to 
> set up an external, parallel port 250Mb Iomega Zip drive? If so, what 
> modules / parameters do I need?
> 
> I have tried the imm module, but this will not install. (It just tells me 
> that "Device or resource busy". It adds, of course, that this can be caused 
> by incorrect parameters, but it will not accept any parameters I can think 
> to give it.

ppa needs parport and parport_pc installed first, so I guess
imm (the more modern ppa) might do too.

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Re: /proc/kcore

2001-05-02 Thread David Wright
Quoting Renai LeMay ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> can someone tell me what the file /proc/kcore is used for?

Not really, but I can tell you what it is. It's a kernel
representation of your system memory, made to look like
a file, as is everything in /proc. Take a look at
Documentation/proc.txt in the kernel source.

I guess you might be able to debug something with it.

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email options and --force with dpkg

2001-05-02 Thread john gennard
Following helpful replies from Kent(ktb) and Steve Gran to a 
request under the subject of 'email options', I've been looking 
further into the possibilities.  

I want to try qmail which I've found and built. It will not install
as it conflicts with ssmtp - seems I can have only one MTA.
Dselect will not uninstall ssmtp as the MUA's 'will feel lonely'.
So presumably I will have to either temporarily remove the MUA's
and replace ssmtp with qmail ( I haven't tried that, but, even if it
works, I don't like the idea as I want to try other MTA's until I
find one I understand and like) or force dpkg to uninstall ssmtp.

Both the man page and dpkg --help are unclear to me, and I don't
want to risk damage. Could someone help with the precise syntax to
force remove and purge ( ssmtp in this case ).  

Or am I labouring under a misunderstanding ( kmail, which I've used
for a long time, doesn't appear to enter into the conflict).

Grateful for any advice,John.  



Parallel zips

2001-05-02 Thread David Harper
I am sure this must be an FAQ, but I cannot find it.

Is it possible to use the standard Debian install process (Debian 2.2 r2) to 
set up an external, parallel port 250Mb Iomega Zip drive? If so, what 
modules / parameters do I need?

I have tried the imm module, but this will not install. (It just tells me 
that "Device or resource busy". It adds, of course, that this can be caused 
by incorrect parameters, but it will not accept any parameters I can think 
to give it.

Thanks for any assistance on this.

David Harper



Re: Need Help; Read Only file system needs to be Read Write in new Sid upgrade

2001-05-02 Thread John Foster
Osamu Aoki wrote:
> Really.
> 
>   # mount -n -t remount,rw /
>   # mount -avt nonfs,noproc,nosmbfs
> 
> Did you do this with -n and -t?  This should remount rw.
> 
> I have several standard recovery tricks listed in my web page below
> including this one.
---
Yes. I did try that and thanks for the idea. It did not work. BTW; that
is a pretty impressive array of info that you have there.
Thanks!
John



Re: [Q]Internet phone server

2001-05-02 Thread Mark Purcell
OpenH323 application ohphone  
$http://packages.debian.org/unstable/comm/ohphone.html  will talk to
Microsoft Netmeeting which I think will do what you want.

Mark

On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 04:01:12AM +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> ke6sls> take a look at gphone. It's a pretty small packages and will let you 
> talk to 
> ke6sls> both fellow gphone users, and speakfreely users.
> 
> Thanks. I have noticed it. But it seems that gphone only works on UNIX/Linux
> platform. How can we talk with a Windows user by gphone? 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> --Wen
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>  
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md5sum of iso images

2001-05-02 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes

Hi,

Is this OK?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp/debian-cd$ md5sum -b  -c MD5SUMS
md5sum: MD5 check failed for 'binary-i386-2.iso'

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp/debian-cd$ md5sum binary-i386-2.iso
a9ed0ce9f6476a694614f524430bddc5  binary-i386-2.iso

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp/debian-cd$ cat MD5SUMS | grep binary-i386-2.iso
a9ed0ce9f6476a694614f524430bddc5  binary-i386-2.iso

How the ckeck failed? How I can be sure my iso image is OK?
I have rsync'd them twice; I got the MD5SUMS file from the same
mirror I got the pseudo image files.
TIA,

[]s,
Mario O.de Menezes"Many are the plans in a man's heart, but
IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails"
http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21



Re: bad bios (i think)

2001-05-02 Thread Hall Stevenson
> I just received an old acer pentium 133 to use as my linux
> box.  Major problem with it is as soon as I turn the damn
> thing on it fails to go thru BIOS.  It just stares back at me
> for a minute then displays "keyboard interface error" then
> after another minute "pointing device error."

It's pretty unlikely that both your keyboard and mouse have died at
the same time, so as someone else already suggested, try switching
their connections around. If they're both PS/2 plugs, they'll
obviously go into either plug. Newer motherboards don't seem to
care; older boards do.

In the worst case, if the above doesn't work, it's also possible
that the motherboard is dead. Well, part of it and since you can't
simply replace the ps/2 connection part, the board is effectively
dead.

Just curious, did someone give you this box ?? :-)

> I have replaced the harddrive with a clean one (after the
> problem started)

Your harddrive may be working perfectly. Solve one problem at a
time. Nothing indicates that there's something wrong with the drive.

Good luck
Hall



Re: SOLVED: (Post Upgrade?) Boot Disaster revisited

2001-05-02 Thread Alan Davis
I apologize for the bandwidth.  The last time we met, I was unable to boot my 
machine, which suffered a horrid clattering/clacking sound after displaying 
LILLinux02 and freezing.  

At last I have solved this problem.  Perhaps this information will be of 
interest.  

The problem was due to my having, after compiling my own kernels, installed the 
vmlinuz link in /boot .  Not in / .  When I upgraded, I suppose I didn't pay 
enough attention---perhaps due to the large amount of information accompanying 
that recent sid upgrade.  Lilo installed its own /etc/lilo.conf.  There was no 
longer any link "/vmlinuz" to /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.19 or whatever.  

Once I booted the system from a rescue disk as Osamu Aoki mentioned to another 
user. edited /etc/lilo.conf, and ran lilo, the machine boots fine.  

Alan Davis.





On Tue, 1 May 2001 23:58:42 +1000
Alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My drive is ok, but the MBR has been hosed.  Lilo now displays this message
> 
>LILLinux02
> 
> Once in a few boot attempts, this doesn't actually lead to a clattering 
> sound.  At these times, a peach colored screen appears with a neatly formatted
> table listinG all the kernels in my lilo.conf.
> 
> Nothing happens. 
> 
> I have installed linux on another partition on the same drive.  
> The drive is behaving fine.  
> 
> In hda1 is a BUNCH of these files:
> 
>   errs(etc)
> 
> They all look to be empty.   
> 
> This is too bizaare to have happened only to me.  Has anyone
> ever seen such a thing?
> 
> Alan Davis
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>  
> 
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Pseudo Image Kit

2001-05-02 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes


Hi,

I'm trying to use the pseudo image kit to build iso images from
R3.
I got the .list files, ran make-pseudo-image script, got the
650MB files and now I'm going to run rsync to transform the pseudo-image
files in real iso9660 files.
My doubt is: the pseudo-image files have lots of plain text in
the beginning (statements about US export laws, mirror lists, etc) and
then the binary data. Is this correct? I mean, does the iso file on the
mirror contains such plain text as well so that they can be synchronized?
TIA,

[]s
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IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails"
http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21



Re: Any hope of help? or suggestions?

2001-05-02 Thread ktb
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 04:35:39AM +, K. Matthew Victor wrote:
> "K. Matthew Victor" wrote:
> 
> > "K. Matthew Victor" wrote:
> >
> > > Please give me a hand straightening this muddle up.
> > > I need to figure out how to get the printer daemon back up and working.
> > > (1): Storm Linux 2000- upgraded with Debian 2.2r2 from CD-ROMs from Mr
> > > "O's Linux  using apt-get  -cdrom to build the sources.list (this went
> > > very smoothly, and I've been running it for 3+ weeks).
> > > (2): I have to change my printer driver for a new HP1220cse DeskJet- so
> > > I first used printtool which worked to print the test pages, but did not
> > > update /etc/printcap. So I tried to use the Storm SAS which does not
> > > list the HP1220, therefore I attempted to use the HP1000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > It started to print garbage on 30+ sheets.
> > > (3): Since I could not remember the kill command for the printer spool
> > > que I issued lpq as root. It definitely stopped the show!!
> > > (4): Several reboots later, issuing lpq status as user returns "no
> > > daemon present". Though a look at the scrolling status as boot up
> > > proceeds  shows "starting lpddone".
> > > (5): Attempting to print a file at the command line : less
> > > /var/log/dmesg |lpr   (lpr: connect: Connection refused   jobs qued ,
> > > but cannot start daemon.
> > > (6): My old printer is no longer avail. to me (reassigned to a different
> > > facility), it was an HP LaserJet 1100.
> > > Thank you in advance. K. Matthew Victor
> >
> > PS. lpc start does not do the trick.
> > I'll root around the Running Linux book and snoop around in the man pages a
> > bit.
> > tia, K. Matthew Victor.
> 
> I sure could use some suggestions here. Is it possible that I accidently
> removed the local print daemon? TIA, Matt

I really don't know much about printing.  I know for a while printtool
was broke in potato.  You might look at the bug reports for the package.
I don't know if there is any way to snag the print configuration tool
off of Progeny or not but if you could it would be worth it.
kent

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Gnome colors

2001-05-02 Thread Mathias
:-) Hi!

I have installed the newest potato and ximian gnome 1.4. Does anybody
know what i have to do, to get another color then grey for all windows
and menus of gnome?

TIA

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Re: debian package mirrors

2001-05-02 Thread Colin Watson
"Matus \"fantomas\" Uhlar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>-> On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 09:45:59PM +0100, Dean Liversidge wrote:
>-> > Are the debian package trees being reorganised ?
>-> 
>-> Yes when new testing/unstable was introduced.
>-> 
>-> Mirror pool to get it working.  I mirroed OK using fmirror.  I posted
>-> script to do it within 24 hours.  See archive on web page. 
>
>well, my mirror now taket much more spa e then it did before. Any way to fix
>it? aren't some packages in hierarchy twice?
>
>i using rsync mirror script d'l-ed from debian web page.

Which one?

  http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-0011/msg01827.html

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Re: (OT) Storage (8*IDE HDs) any experiences? +55v

2001-05-02 Thread Hamish Moffatt

Alvin.. have you really been following this thread at all?

On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 05:43:57PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote:
> and if the power supply to the disk dies...
> than you're out of luck
>   or if the powersupply tot eh motherboard dies...
>   you'd be out of luck too

So what? It's always been about load sharing, not redundancy.

> in which case...whats thepoint of having 2 PS ???
>   - if it cannot handle the load...get a bigger power supply
> 
>   - having 2 power supplies complicates things..
>   and some devices running at 12.5v and others at 11.5v..
>   at the extreme voltage ranges ... similarly for +5v range
>   and +3.3 ranges...( all kinds of possible random timing problems?? 

I don't think this is likely to cause much problem really.
For one thing, the logic between the controller and the drive
is running on 5V (I'd guess), not 12V. 5V logic is generally
pretty tolerant...

> if you do have 2 power supplies.. you should invest in a 
> properly designed load-sharing power circuitry such that the other
> supply can drive all devices it needs by itself...

Huh? The disks and the motherboard will never be independent.

Summary: I think disks and motherboard on separate power supplies
will work. Connect the grounds together. (They'll be connected by
mains neutral/earth, as well as case ground, anyway, but just
to be thorough.)

Yes, there will be differences in the supply voltages, but I
don't see that being a significant problem with 5V logic.

No, I haven't tried it. But yes, I do know something about electronics.


Hamish
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Re: glibc and Oracle problem

2001-05-02 Thread Ilya Martynov

DW> STIL MORE

DW> Well I suppose my stupidity might help someone else, so I may as well
DW> document it.

DW> The libc_nonshared.a is in the libc-dev package.

DW> If someone is reading this while trying to follow the instructions
DW> from the discussion list on the Oracle site...
DW> The libc_nonshared is in the usr/lib directory. If you are not trying
DW> to install Oracle... Sorry for disturbing you.

DW> When (if?) I finish I will try to document the procedure in the
DW> Oracle lists.

BTW Don't know if it will help but try to look here for some info
about Oracle problem:

http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=18391

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