proftp does not want to show symlinked directories...

[jdls]

Hi,

I have proftpd running and anonymous ftp too and I wanted the anonymous ftp 
directory to show files residing in another directory so instead of just 
copying or moving files to the directory I want to show I just create a
softlink ln -s /foo/bar /false/foo/barthe problem is the files are not 
showing in the /false/foo/bar directory

Any ideas?

Thanks

Make that the ESS1878 (was: Opti 1868)

[JakeCatfox]

Does anyone know if this is supported in the kernel (2.2.19 or 2.4.5?) or if 
I need a driver? If I need a driver, where can I get it?

Thanks,
Deven Gallo

Re: Can't install latest gnucash

[Brian Nelson]

dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> | Also, typically when you install packages in stable that are from
> | unstable, you need to build them yourself (apt-get source ...) since
> | potato packages are build against libc5 whereas woody/sid packages are
> | build against libc6.
> | 
> | Confused yet?  :)
> 
> No, potato uses libc6.  Slink, I think, used libc5.

Hmm, oh yeah.  Then it's the libc6-2.1 in potato vs. libc6-2.2 in unstable.

-- 
Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Fonts in GTK

[J . Roger Jones]

On Mon, 3 Sep 2001 15:03:35 -0700
"J. D. Kitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I had a working GNOME install from Woody.  I just updated to Sid,
> and everything seemed to go quite nicely, but now in GNOME, or
> rather anything that uses GTK, I see only a bunch of little squares
> where I should be seeing text.  Can anyone tell me what I hosed, and
> what I need to do to correct it?
> 
> TIA,
> jdk

I had the same problem a few weeks ago. I used KDE2 for a while, but
didn't care for it. I tried researching the problem, but came up with few
references. I then came across the Debian TrueType Mini-HOWTO, and
installed xfs and xfstt, and then fiddled with the FontPath setting if the
XF86Config file (following instructions in the mini-HOWTO). Needless to
say, whatever I did works. Gnome, GTK, and X apps are now readable.

Try xfs and xfstt, and the HOWTO can be found through a google search.
They are small packages, and setup takes 5-10 minutes. And let me know if
it works for you.


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Opti 1688 woes

[JakeCatfox]

I can't seem to get my Opti 1688 sound card to work! I installed OSS with 
Debian kernel 2.2.19pre17 at install time. It says it's loding "soundlow" at 
boot time. But when I try to use sound, I just get "no such device: /dev/dsp" 
errors. Does anyone know what I'm missing here?

Any info would be appreciated,
Thanks.
Deven Gallo

Help! with exim -- freezing mail

[Cam Ellison]

How do I either: (1) change exim's idea of my system id number or set it up so 
it will detect it properly when I install?

For reasons I won't go into, I screwed up my system and had to reinstall, but I 
kept the /home directory intact.  Naturally, I created a new account for myself 
(different name) temporarily as part of the setup, and then had to add my real 
personal account, etc.

I blew the temporary one away, and used the /home directory that was created 
for the original /home partition.  Exim now thinks I have one i.d., and freezes 
all the mail.  I can solve that problem, but it is taking too much time.

I removed exim and related apps through apt-get, then re-installed, but this 
has had no effect.

Please -- any ideas will be gratefully received.

TIA

Cam

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Re: Can't install latest gnucash

[dman]

On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 09:39:32PM -0400, Brian Nelson wrote:
| Andy Davidson <'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'> writes:
| 
| > I wanted to upgrade to the latest version of gnucash which has some
| > features I need that are not in the stable version (1.3.4)  But it is
| > only in unstable, so I added the following line to sources.list
| > deb http://http.us.debian.org/ unstable main
| > and did an 'apt-get update' and then 'apt-get install gnucash'.  
| > 
| > But it failed with the following messages:
| > Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
| > requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
| > distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
| > or been moved out of Incoming.
| > 
| > Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
| > the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
| > that package should be filed.
| > The following information may help to resolve the situation:
| > 
| > Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
| >   gnucash: Depends: libgal9 (>= 0.10) but it is not installable
| >Depends: libgtkhtml14 (>= 0.11.1) but it is not installable
| > 
| > Am I out of luck until more is done with gnucash? Or have I --- heaven
| > forfend! --- made a mistake somewhere?
| 
| It's not your fault.  Those files aren't installable because they
| don't exist in the archives.  Annoyingly, when libgal and libgtkhtml's
| major version number keeps getting incremented, so when those packages
| are updated, the older versions that gnucash depends are no longer
| available.  For example, libgal is now up to libgal11, but the gnucash
| version in unstable still depends on libgal9.  Since libgal9 is no
| longer available, you'll have to wait until gnucash is updated to
| depend on libgal11.  Such is life with unstable.

Oh, that's what happened.  Since I installed gnucash & dependencies
manually I still have the debs in a serparate location.  Would you
like me to send them to you?  FYI -- guile gets updated, and somehow,
as a result of dependencies gnome-games-locale and gnome-card-games
get updated.  Then you either need to force something or update all
gnome-games.  

I'm running woody with some stuff from sid that isn't (or wasn't at
the time) in woody.

| Maybe the gnucash in woody won't have broken dependencies...

gnucash in woody is really old -- it's the same as potato.

| Also, typically when you install packages in stable that are from
| unstable, you need to build them yourself (apt-get source ...) since
| potato packages are build against libc5 whereas woody/sid packages are
| build against libc6.
| 
| Confused yet?  :)

No, potato uses libc6.  Slink, I think, used libc5.

-D

Re: ot: vcd's on mtv

[Raghavendra Bhat]

[Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 03:40:15PM +] p :

> cannot open cd-rom device: /dev/cdrom
> 
> permission denied

User who is accessing the vcd in the cdrom drive does not
have permissions to do so.  Please add the user, say 'foo'
to the 'cdrom' group by doing 'adduser foo cdrom' at the 
su/root prompt. 

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Re: debian: usb logitech mouse help with devfs required

[Tim Moss]

Brendan J Simon wrote:


I'm trying to get my USB Logitech optical mouse to work with my Pentium 
machine.  It is currently running a mixture of testing and stable 
distros.  I am currently using the latest kernel-image-2.4.x-k6 with 
devfs and xfree86 from stable (ie. not version 4.x.x).


I have been searching the net and found links to devfs and usb.  I have 
since found out that my motherboard is an SiS board and requires the 
OHCI USB driver.  I have managed to load usb-core, usb-ohci, and 
usbmouse drivers via modprobe.  I can get the drivers to recognise my 
mouse and it prints appropriate messages to the console when I plug the 
mouse in and out of the USB port.  I am expecting that devfs will show 
/dev/input/mouse* and/or /dev/input/mice and/or /dev/usb/* entries but I 
don't get anything.  I can't point XF86Config to any valid mouse driver.


Can someone please point me in the right direction.  How do I get devfs 
to give me appropriate entries for my USB Logitech optical mouse.


Thanks,
Brendan Simon.





I have the same mouse and these are the modules I load for mine.

hid
mousedev
input
usb-uhci
usbcore

I don't know if this will help since my setup is a little different from 
yours (I don't use devfs and I have XFree 4.1) but it might be worth a shot

(I also use 2.4.9 compiled myself)

Re: debian: usb logitech mouse help with devfs required

[dman]

On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 12:00:43PM +1000, Brendan J Simon wrote:
| 
| I'm trying to get my USB Logitech optical mouse to work with my Pentium 
| machine.  It is currently running a mixture of testing and stable 
| distros.  I am currently using the latest kernel-image-2.4.x-k6 with 
| devfs and xfree86 from stable (ie. not version 4.x.x).
| 
| I have been searching the net and found links to devfs and usb.  I have 
| since found out that my motherboard is an SiS board and requires the 
| OHCI USB driver.  I have managed to load usb-core, usb-ohci, and 
| usbmouse drivers via modprobe.  I can get the drivers to recognise my 
| mouse and it prints appropriate messages to the console when I plug the 
| mouse in and out of the USB port.  I am expecting that devfs will show 
| /dev/input/mouse* and/or /dev/input/mice and/or /dev/usb/* entries but I 
| don't get anything.  I can't point XF86Config to any valid mouse driver.
| 
| Can someone please point me in the right direction.  How do I get devfs 
| to give me appropriate entries for my USB Logitech optical mouse.

Your mouse is supported -- I have an older Logitech MouseMan Wheel
(USB / PS2 adapter) and it works well.  Just for fun I took the
reciever from my brother's Logitech wireless keyboard and MouseMan
Wheel and plugged it into my USB port and Linux found them right away.

The key is to load "mousedev" instead of "usbmouse".  If "usbmouse" is
needed it will be loaded automagically.  I'm not sure, but it may the
that mousedev is needed to recognize the mouse itself, then usbmouse
is used to drive it.  You will need to point gpm (or X) to
/dev/input/mice instead.  This device file will report back all (USB,
I'm not sure about PS2) mice attached to the machine if there is more
than one.  Hey, I just noticed that there is /dev/input/mouse0 too.  I
guess that lets you specify certain mice for certain programs.  That's
cool.

HTH,
-D

Konqueror eats up memory and dies under KDE2.2

[James L. Morton]

This is a really odd problem.  I didn't see it at bugs.debian.org so I
was wondering if anyone else has had this problem.  Using the Konqueror
4:2.2.0.20010822-1 package in Sid, if I start Konqueror under KDE it
will eat up all available memory until it is killed by the kernel.
However, if I start it up under GNOME or any other window manager, it's
fine.  Anyone else see this?:)

 - James


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debian: usb logitech mouse help with devfs required

[Brendan J Simon]

I'm trying to get my USB Logitech optical mouse to work with my Pentium 
machine.  It is currently running a mixture of testing and stable 
distros.  I am currently using the latest kernel-image-2.4.x-k6 with 
devfs and xfree86 from stable (ie. not version 4.x.x).


I have been searching the net and found links to devfs and usb.  I have 
since found out that my motherboard is an SiS board and requires the 
OHCI USB driver.  I have managed to load usb-core, usb-ohci, and 
usbmouse drivers via modprobe.  I can get the drivers to recognise my 
mouse and it prints appropriate messages to the console when I plug the 
mouse in and out of the USB port.  I am expecting that devfs will show 
/dev/input/mouse* and/or /dev/input/mice and/or /dev/usb/* entries but I 
don't get anything.  I can't point XF86Config to any valid mouse driver.


Can someone please point me in the right direction.  How do I get devfs 
to give me appropriate entries for my USB Logitech optical mouse.


Thanks,
Brendan Simon.

Re: Fonts in GTK

[Hall Stevenson]

* J. D. Kitch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010903 19:16]:
> I had a working GNOME install from Woody. I just updated to Sid, and
> everything seemed to go quite nicely, but now in GNOME, or rather
> anything that uses GTK, I see only a bunch of little squares where I
> should be seeing text. Can anyone tell me what I hosed, and what I
> need to do to correct it?

I ran into this myself and tried about 1400 different things to fix it.
I did... Problem is I'm not sure which did it ;-)

I'd suggest two fairly simple things:

-- Get rid of 'xfs' (if you don't need it -- you *don't* need it for
local TrueType font support, for example)

-- Choose either 75dpi or 100dpi xfonts and whichever you don't use,
remove/purge the other. Then go through the various config files and
manually remove the references to them.

Hall

Re: Can't install latest gnucash

[Brian Nelson]

Andy Davidson <'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'> writes:

> I wanted to upgrade to the latest version of gnucash which has some
> features I need that are not in the stable version (1.3.4)  But it is
> only in unstable, so I added the following line to sources.list
>   deb http://http.us.debian.org/ unstable main
> and did an 'apt-get update' and then 'apt-get install gnucash'.  
> 
> But it failed with the following messages:
>   Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
>   requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
>   distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
>   or been moved out of Incoming.
>   
>   Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
>   the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
>   that package should be filed.
>   The following information may help to resolve the situation:
> 
>   Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
> gnucash: Depends: libgal9 (>= 0.10) but it is not installable
>  Depends: libgtkhtml14 (>= 0.11.1) but it is not installable
> 
> Am I out of luck until more is done with gnucash? Or have I --- heaven
> forfend! --- made a mistake somewhere?

It's not your fault.  Those files aren't installable because they
don't exist in the archives.  Annoyingly, when libgal and libgtkhtml's
major version number keeps getting incremented, so when those packages
are updated, the older versions that gnucash depends are no longer
available.  For example, libgal is now up to libgal11, but the gnucash
version in unstable still depends on libgal9.  Since libgal9 is no
longer available, you'll have to wait until gnucash is updated to
depend on libgal11.  Such is life with unstable.

Maybe the gnucash in woody won't have broken dependencies...

Also, typically when you install packages in stable that are from
unstable, you need to build them yourself (apt-get source ...) since
potato packages are build against libc5 whereas woody/sid packages are
build against libc6.

Confused yet?  :)

> An additional question: If I now remove the above line from
> sources.list and do 'apt-get update' will I have removed unstable
> stuff from my package lists?

Yep.

-- 
Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

installation

[sortelyn]

I have without luck tried to install Debian. The 
problem arises, because the following file can not be downloadet:
 
http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disk-i386/current/images-1.44/reiserfs/rescue.bin
 
But this is not so weird, since it does'nt 
exist so why is the installation program trying to download this as default 
?
 
Weird and anoying 
 
 
sortelyn

Re: quick Q about dos disketts

[Wayne Topa]

[EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> Hi all. what do I need to install to be able to format DOS diskettes?
> thanks!

apt-get install fdutils mtools

fdutils
Description: Linux floppy utilities
 This package contains utilities for configuring and debugging the Linux
 floppy driver, for formatting extra capacity disks (up to 1992K on a high
 density disk), for sending raw commands to the floppy controller, for
 automatic floppy disk mounting and unmounting, etc.

mtools
Description: Tools for manipulating MSDOS files
 Mtools is a collection of utilities to access MS-DOS disks from Unix
 without mounting them. It supports Win'95 style long file names,
 OS/2 Xdf disks, ZIP/JAZ disks and 2m disks (store up to 1992k on a high
 density 3 1/2 disk).

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Re: Re : append still does not solve the problem NB : Please cc: me if you have any solution

[Wayne Topa]

[EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> As you suggested I gave the append entry :
> Image   = /boot/kernel-2.4.9
> label   = Woody-249
> Root= /dev/hda10
> VGA = 0x31A
> append  = "hdd=cdrom lp=parport0 parport=0x378,none video=vesa"
> 
> (my lilo as installed looks slightly different but that hasn't created any 
> problems
> on any other machine and shouldn't be the cause here.)
>  Summary :
> Starting lpd :parport0 : detected irq 7 ; use procfs to enable 
> interrupt
> driven operation
>  continues to occur.
> 
I think that you must have IRQ 7 assigned to the printer port in your
bios.  If you disable it, in the bios, the above should work.
> 
> 
> 
> I would like to ask you about Interrupts and Parport.
> 
> As per the rules who gets Interrupt 7 ?
> Is it Parport0 ?
it is either the bios or the board.  I don't recall if you said the
printer port was built onto the board or if you have a seperate card
for it.
> 
See above.  The printer does not need an IRQ.  So that it can be
available to other boards (network cards, etc) you can use the append
= to none.

If you have many IRQ's to spare, lucky you, yes, you can change the
none to 7.  I just hate to waste an IRQ on something that doesn't need
it.

Please _do_not_ Cc me!  Send to the list only!!

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AC97 sound HOWTO

[Jonathan David Pearce]

I have a new mainboard with built-in AC97 sound. I installed the kernel
module ac97_codec. That hasn't gotten me to where I need to be, though.
What do I need to do to get this sound working? I know pnpdump is not
the way to go, because it detects nothing.

Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks,
Jonathan

Re: krb5 and fetchmail

[Aaron M. Ucko]

Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>   I have the same setup, except that I don't have NTLM or SDPS enabled.
> My fetchmailrc contains the following:

I only turned them on because they were there by default; I doubt
they're relevant, but I suppose you can try them.

Hm.  The only other thing I can think of to try is explicitly
qualifying the principal name with @BROWN.EDU.

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Re: dominate xdm?

[Erik Steffl]

Shaul Karl wrote:
> 
> > New install and just got X to work. xdm starts twm, which is lame, on
> > VC7 with a login. You can't get out of it on that console. Startx won't
> > work anywhere of cours.
> >
> > I want to use e.g. icewm. How do I reconfigure xdm to default to a
> > different
> > window manager, and/or turn xdm off? I couldn't find the script to
> > change in /etc/X11.
> >
> 
> Hopefully installing the icewm deb will sort things almost out of the box.
> As for stopping xdm, it is answered in /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz.
> Yet I believe it will not be necessary.
> I am not sure but basically the configuration of the default window manager is
> done with the alternative system and 
> /etc/X11/Xsession.d/50xfree86-common_deter
> mine-startup.

  try:

  update-alternatives --config x-window-manager

  and pick your favourite window manger, you might need to install it
first (not sure how to find all packages that provide x-window-manager)

erik

Re: Security from others when server running

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya

extremely hard to protect a server if people have physical access
to it...
- they can just pull thepower cord...
- they can hit ctrl-alt-delete 
( remove that option from /etc/inittab if you dont like anyone
rebooting it )

- they can pull nic wires ... nothing you can do..

- you can xlock your console ( they'd need passwd to get in )
- they can pop up other virtual consoles...
- dont leave any virtual consoles open

- if you are worried about dataloss...
- prevent physical access to unauthorized users

- if not possible..move the server and/or programs and apps
to a server that is locked up and they'd need a regular door
key to get to it

c ya
alvin

On Mon, 3 Sep 2001, Robert Waldner wrote:

> 
> On Mon, 03 Sep 2001 15:33:50 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >Hi, I'm running a server in a public location, and the applications running 
> >on the server run in their own virtual console (or an xterm window). 
> >However, 
> >if someone came up and closed the xterm or hit ^C they could cancel the 
> >server operation, which risks data loss, server failure, etc., and they 
> >would 
> >also have full access to every aspect of the user account the server is run 
> >on.
> >
> >Is there a good way to keep others from messing with the server?
> 
> While there´s no real way without removing the physical access, but 
>  xlockmore et al would spring to mind ;-)
> 
> cheers,
> &rw
> -- 
> -- Russell Foster:  "Tell me $DEITY what have I done to deserve this?"
> -- David P. Murphy: "You wanted to be a sysadmin.
> --   `Oh!` said $DEITY, `a challenge!`"
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: What replaces glimpse?

[Colin Watson]

On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 05:38:25PM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> On 03 Sep 2001, Andras BALI wrote:
> > No, glimpse is removed from the Debian archive for good due to the
> > fact that there was no new upload for almost three years and it had a
> > grave security bug since March 2000.  Newer upstream versions of
> > glimpse seems to have unacceptable license for Debian.
> 
> Yes, after looking at the glimpse web page I gathered that it was
> probably a 'political' decision to remove it; it seems to have become
> shareware, so it's fair enough.

Partly political, yes, in the sense that a lot of developers care less
about fixing broken non-free stuff. Although it would probably have been
kept around if not for the many security holes - I looked at the code,
and it really did appear to be written with no thought of security
whatsoever.

Basically, its lack of maintenance came up on -qa, nobody seemed to have
any interest in taking it over or at least keeping it on life-support
for a bit longer, so it was considered better to drop it.

Since it comes up here every now and then, there are several reasons why
you might see packages listed as "obsolete/local" in dselect?

  * The maintainer decides that it's no longer needed. Maintainers have
pretty much total control over their packages, so not much more is
needed. Somebody else might decide to reintroduce it, of course.

  * It's no longer built from any source package; this usually means
that it's been superseded by a later version or otherwise renamed
(e.g. libraries), but sometimes means that one variant of a package
has been dropped (ted-gtk was a recent example).

  * It's "maintained" by the Quality Assurance Group, i.e. orphaned, and
eventually it becomes obvious that nobody is interested in taking
responsibility for it properly, so we drop it.

  * It has release-critical (serious or above) bugs which aren't being
fixed. Usually this only results in the package being dropped for
one release, but sometimes it's removed altogether.

In all cases, you should be able to find the exact reason why the
package was removed at:

  http://ftp-master.debian.org/removals.txt

Cheers,

-- 
Colin Watson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: quick Q about dos disketts

[Adam Warner]

On 03 Sep 2001 18:31:16 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi all. what do I need to install to be able to format DOS diskettes?
> thanks!

apt-get install mtools

and

apt-get install gfloppy

if you want to be able to format floppies using a GNOME graphical
interface.

Regards,
Adam

Re: GNOME Blank Screensaver

[Adam Warner]

On 03 Sep 2001 11:21:24 -0700, Tim Moss wrote:
> Adam Warner wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Does anyone know how to set up a blank screensaver under GNOME?
> > 
> > I've checked web and newsgroup archives and I can't find a solution that
> > works!
> > 
> > I'm running Debian unstable.
> > 
> > Even if I add a file in /usr/share/control-center/.data called
> > Blank.desktop with these contents:
> > 
> > [Desktop Entry]
> > Name=Blank Screensaver
> > Comment=
> > Exec=xscreensaver-command -activate
> > TryExec=
> > Terminal=0
> > Type=Application
> > 
> > [Screensaver Data]
> > WindowIdCommand=
> > RootCommand=
> > Icon=
> > Author=
> > ExtendedComment=
> > Demo=
> > 
> > 
> > I get a random screensaver!
> > 
> > Many thanks,
> > Adam
> 
> 
> I think if you run
> xscreensaver-demo
> and deselect all the screensavers, it will do you you want.

Many thanks Tim. I can confirm that I now get a blank screen.

Regards,
Adam

Re: quick Q about dos disketts

[Karsten M. Self]

on Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 06:31:16PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> Hi all. what do I need to install to be able to format DOS diskettes?
> thanks!
> xuc

$ apt-get install fdutils
$ man superformat

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Re: Matrox G450 comments?

[Volker Schlecht]

* Sean Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010904 00:00]:
> mga.o is open source, mga_hal.o is not though, and you will need that to
> use it with XFree86 (for DRI anyway, I'm pretty sure you can get 2d only
> still). 

With Xfree 4.1.0 this is no longer the case. You still need the
proprietary module for some special candy, but the free module runs
just fine here on its own, including stuff like DRI and DualHead. 

regards,
Volker

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Re: news servers and port 119

[Dmitriy]

On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 05:47:13PM -0500, Paul B. Bertrand wrote:
> I recently upgraded to a generic 2.4.8-k6 kernel from a 2.2.17 kernel
> and found that I am no longer able to connect to my non-isp newsserver,
> namely giganews.  I am, however, still able to connect to my isp
> newsserver.  Initially, I thought this was a giganews or isp issue, but
> when I rebooted with my old kernel, I was able to connect to my
> giganews.
> 
> Does anyone know why I wouldn't be able to connect to a newsserver
> outside of my isp?  I don't remember ever doing anything special in
> order to do this before, especially with the kernel.
> 
> This is the error message I receive:
> 
> Connecting to host news-central.giganews.com
>  ...connection to 216.166.62.35, port 119:Connection refused
> Unable to make connection. Giving up.
> slrn fatal error:
> Failed to initialize server.
> 
> I also tried using port 23 but that didn't work either.  Also, I am able
> to ping giganews with the new kernel.
> 
Sounds like it couold be ECN.
Is it enabled in your kernel?

If so, try as root:

'echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn'


I hope that helps you.
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
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Re: dominate xdm?

[Shaul Karl]

> New install and just got X to work. xdm starts twm, which is lame, on
> VC7 with a login. You can't get out of it on that console. Startx won't
> work anywhere of cours.
> 
> I want to use e.g. icewm. How do I reconfigure xdm to default to a
> different
> window manager, and/or turn xdm off? I couldn't find the script to
> change in /etc/X11.
> 


Hopefully installing the icewm deb will sort things almost out of the box. 
As for stopping xdm, it is answered in /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz. 
Yet I believe it will not be necessary.
I am not sure but basically the configuration of the default window manager is 
done with the alternative system and /etc/X11/Xsession.d/50xfree86-common_deter
mine-startup.


> I wrote a test .xsession file (did make executable) with just exec
> xterm. Even though allow-user-xsession does in
> /etc/X11/Xsession.options, that $HOME/.xsession doesn't prevail and
> still stuck with twm.
> 


I am not sure if ~/.xsession-errors will be meaningful in this case but you 
might still look at it. It might tell you what went wrong. Another file that 
could be handy is /var/log/xdm.log.

Perhaps you want to post your ~/.xsession here?


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Re: Can't install latest gnucash

[Andy Davidson]

On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 03:07:26PM -0700, Eric G. Miller wrote:
> 
> My guess would be these libraries somehow conflict with something in the
> stable branch.  You'd probably have to do a "dist-upgrade" with all that
> implies...  The newest version definitely does alot more than previous
> ones (some of the changes are rather dramatic and take some getting used
> to).

I was afraid of that and no, I am not ready to do a dist-upgrade to
unstable. Thanks, anyhow


> Generally it's not good to mix stable and unstable anyway. Perhaps
> someone has a Potato version of GNUCash (and it's 300 dependencies!).

One can hope, but I suspect I will have to wait for woody to come
out. I'll go check the gnucash mailling list, though

Thanks again,

andy

news servers and port 119

[Paul B. Bertrand]

I recently upgraded to a generic 2.4.8-k6 kernel from a 2.2.17 kernel
and found that I am no longer able to connect to my non-isp newsserver,
namely giganews.  I am, however, still able to connect to my isp
newsserver.  Initially, I thought this was a giganews or isp issue, but
when I rebooted with my old kernel, I was able to connect to my
giganews.

Does anyone know why I wouldn't be able to connect to a newsserver
outside of my isp?  I don't remember ever doing anything special in
order to do this before, especially with the kernel.

This is the error message I receive:

Connecting to host news-central.giganews.com
 ...connection to 216.166.62.35, port 119:Connection refused
Unable to make connection. Giving up.
slrn fatal error:
Failed to initialize server.

I also tried using port 23 but that didn't work either.  Also, I am able
to ping giganews with the new kernel.

Thanks for your help.

Paul

Re: apt problems with http.us.debian.org?

[Oliver Elphick]

"Mike Kuhar" wrote:
  >Good evening Fellow Debians,
  >
  >I went to do an apt-get upgrade, just a few moments ago, after doing an upda
  >te
  >on unstable.  It told me I had 54 packages to upgrade.  The problem is that 
  >only
  >half actually downloaded and upgraded from http.us.debian.org.  The rest 404
  >'d
  >on me.  What gives?  Any one else experience this problem?

The mirror is out of sync.  Try again in the morning, or try a 
different mirror.

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  you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat;
  neither for the body, what ye shall put on. For life 
  is more than meat, and the body is more than clothing.
  Consider the ravens, for they neither sow nor reap; 
  they have neither storehouse nor barn; and yet God  
  feeds them;  how much better you are than the birds!
  Consider the lilies, how they grow; they toil 
  not, they spin not; and yet I say unto you, that  
  Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of 
  these. If then God so clothe the grass, which is to 
  day in the field, and tomorrow is cast into the oven;
  how much more will he clothe you, O ye of little  
  faith?  And seek not what ye shall eat, or what ye 
  shall drink, neither be ye of doubtful mind. 
  But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these 
  things shall be added unto you." 
  Luke 12:22-24; 27-29; 31. 

Re: exim: how to rewrite?

[Karsten M. Self]

on Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 11:52:46PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> It´s a big trouble! I did all i could do after reading several docs. And
> now?
> Exim is not able to rewrite my local address to the email address for my
> real mail account at gmx.
> 
> I have no idea why! Hop you will see the cause in my /etc/exim/exim.conf: 

See /etc/email-addresses 

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Re: Fonts in GTK

[Karsten M. Self]

on Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 03:03:35PM -0700, J. D. Kitch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I had a working GNOME install from Woody.  I just updated to Sid,
> and everything seemed to go quite nicely, but now in GNOME, or
> rather anything that uses GTK, I see only a bunch of little squares
> where I should be seeing text.  Can anyone tell me what I hosed, and
> what I need to do to correct it?

See locale issues discussed here variously.  I don't know a current fix,
but the problem's definitely been identified.

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apt problems with http.us.debian.org?

[Mike Kuhar]

Good evening Fellow Debians,

I went to do an apt-get upgrade, just a few moments ago, after doing an update
on unstable.  It told me I had 54 packages to upgrade.  The problem is that only
half actually downloaded and upgraded from http.us.debian.org.  The rest 404'd
on me.  What gives?  Any one else experience this problem?

-mk

Re: Can't install latest gnucash

[Eric G. Miller]

On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 02:35:26PM -0700, Andy Davidson wrote:
> I wanted to upgrade to the latest version of gnucash which has some
> features I need that are not in the stable version (1.3.4)  But it is
> only in unstable, so I added the following line to sources.list
>   deb http://http.us.debian.org/ unstable main
> and did an 'apt-get update' and then 'apt-get install gnucash'.  
> 
> But it failed with the following messages:
>   Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
>   requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
>   distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
>   or been moved out of Incoming.
>   
>   Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
>   the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
>   that package should be filed.
>   The following information may help to resolve the situation:
> 
>   Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
> gnucash: Depends: libgal9 (>= 0.10) but it is not installable
>  Depends: libgtkhtml14 (>= 0.11.1) but it is not installable

My guess would be these libraries somehow conflict with something in the
stable branch.  You'd probably have to do a "dist-upgrade" with all that
implies...  The newest version definitely does alot more than previous
ones (some of the changes are rather dramatic and take some getting used
to).

> Am I out of luck until more is done with gnucash? Or have I --- heaven
> forfend! --- made a mistake somewhere?

Generally it's not good to mix stable and unstable anyway. Perhaps
someone has a Potato version of GNUCash (and it's 300 dependencies!).

> An additional question: If I now remove the above line from
> sources.list and do 'apt-get update' will I have removed unstable
> stuff from my package lists?

Should be okay.

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RE: apt problems with http.us.debian.org?

[Mike Kuhar]

OK.  Thanks for the info.

Michael W. Kuhar
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-Original Message-
From: Oliver Elphick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 6:29 PM
To: Mike Kuhar
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: apt problems with http.us.debian.org? 


"Mike Kuhar" wrote:
  >Good evening Fellow Debians,
  >
  >I went to do an apt-get upgrade, just a few moments ago, after doing an upda
  >te
  >on unstable.  It told me I had 54 packages to upgrade.  The problem is that 
  >only
  >half actually downloaded and upgraded from http.us.debian.org.  The rest 404
  >'d
  >on me.  What gives?  Any one else experience this problem?

The mirror is out of sync.  Try again in the morning, or try a 
different mirror.

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 "And he said unto his disciples, Therefore I say unto 
  you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat;
  neither for the body, what ye shall put on. For life 
  is more than meat, and the body is more than clothing.
  Consider the ravens, for they neither sow nor reap; 
  they have neither storehouse nor barn; and yet God  
  feeds them;  how much better you are than the birds!
  Consider the lilies, how they grow; they toil 
  not, they spin not; and yet I say unto you, that  
  Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of 
  these. If then God so clothe the grass, which is to 
  day in the field, and tomorrow is cast into the oven;
  how much more will he clothe you, O ye of little  
  faith?  And seek not what ye shall eat, or what ye 
  shall drink, neither be ye of doubtful mind. 
  But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these 
  things shall be added unto you." 
  Luke 12:22-24; 27-29; 31. 

quick Q about dos disketts

[xucaen]

Hi all. what do I need to install to be able to format DOS diskettes?
thanks!
xuc

Fonts in GTK

[J. D. Kitch]

I had a working GNOME install from Woody.  I just updated to Sid,
and everything seemed to go quite nicely, but now in GNOME, or
rather anything that uses GTK, I see only a bunch of little squares
where I should be seeing text.  Can anyone tell me what I hosed, and
what I need to do to correct it?

TIA,
jdk

Re: Matrox G450 comments?

[Sean Morgan]

On Mon, 3 Sep 2001 13:39:43 -0500
"Gregory T. Norris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I need to replace the video card on one of my boxes, and I'm thinking
> of getting a Matrox G450.  I'd appreciate any comments on how well this
> card is working for people.  I don't have any real need for dual-head
> support, so I don't plan on using the binary-only mga.o driver from
> Matrox... I'd greatly prefer to stick with the XFree86 driver, if
> possible.
> 
> Suggestions for alternate graphic cards are also welcome, of course. 
> Thanx!

mga.o is open source, mga_hal.o is not though, and you will need that to
use it with XFree86 (for DRI anyway, I'm pretty sure you can get 2d only
still).  Matrox drivers in linux are very mature, and mplayer's mga_vid
device gives you video quality that's (IMHO) better than what I've seen
from Windows Media Player.  Were I you though, I'd get something like a
g400 or g400 max.  These don't have the closed source driver needs that
the g450 does, and so far as I know the g400 max is still the fastest of
the three.

exim: how to rewrite?

[timohart]

Hi!

It´s a big trouble! I did all i could do after reading several docs. And
now?
Exim is not able to rewrite my local address to the email address for my
real mail account at gmx.

I have no idea why! Hop you will see the cause in my /etc/exim/exim.conf: 

   MAIN CONFIGURATION SETTINGS

primary_hostname = Calculusterix
# qualify_domain = Calculusterix
local_domains = localhost:Calculusterix 
local_domains_include_host = true
local_domains_include_host_literals = true
never_users = root
host_lookup = *
host_accept_relay = 127.0.0.1 : 1
host_auth_accept_relay = *
trusted_users = mail
smtp_verify = false
gecos_pattern = ^([^,:]*)
gecos_name = $1
smtp_accept_queue_per_connection = 100
freeze_tell_mailmaster = true

received_header_text = "Received: \
 ${if def:sender_rcvhost {from ${sender_rcvhost}\n\t}\
 {${if def:sender_ident {from ${sender_ident} }}\
 ${if def:sender_helo_name {(helo=${sender_helo_name})\n\t\
 by ${primary_hostname} \
 ${if def:received_protocol {with ${received_protocol}}} \
 (Mailer: Exim ${version_number} on Debian Linux Unstable)\n\t\
 id ${message_id}\
 ${if def:received_for {\n\tfor <$received_for>}}"

accept_8bitmime = true
end

 TRANSPORTS CONFIGURATION  

local_delivery:
  driver = appendfile
  group = mail
  mode = 0660
  mode_fail_narrower = false
  envelope_to_add = true
  return_path_add = true
  file = /var/spool/mail/${local_part}

address_pipe:
  driver = pipe
  path = /usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin
  return_output

address_file:
  driver = appendfile
  envelope_to_add = true
  return_path_add = true

address_directory:
  driver = appendfile
  no_from_hack
  prefix = ""
  suffix = ""

address_reply:
  driver = autoreply

procmail_pipe:
  driver = pipe
  command = "/usr/bin/procmail -d ${local_part}"
  return_path_add
  delivery_date_add
  envelope_to_add
  check_string = "From "
  escape_string = ">From "
  user = $local_part

remote_smtp:
  driver = smtp
  authenticate_hosts = mail.gmx.net
end

 DIRECTORS CONFIGURATION   

real_local:
  prefix = real-
  driver = localuser
  transport = local_delivery

system_aliases:
  driver = aliasfile
  file_transport = address_file
  pipe_transport = address_pipe
  file = /etc/aliases
  search_type = lsearch

userforward:
  driver = forwardfile
  file_transport = address_file
  pipe_transport = address_pipe
  reply_transport = address_reply
  no_verify
  check_ancestor
  check_local_user
  file = .forward
  modemask = 002
  filter

procmail:
  driver = localuser
  transport = procmail_pipe
  require_files =
${local_part}:+${home}:+${home}/.procmailrc:+/usr/bin/procmail
  no_verify

localuser:
  driver = localuser
  transport = local_delivery
end

ROUTERS CONFIGURATION 

smarthost:
  driver = domainlist
  transport = remote_smtp
  route_list = "* mail.gmx.net bydns_a"
end

 RETRY CONFIGURATION   

*  *   F,2h,15m; G,16h,2h,1.5; F,4d,8h
end

REWRITE CONFIGURATION 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]${lookup{$1}lsearch{/etc/email-addresses}\
#   {$value}fail} frFs

[EMAIL PROTECTED]   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   sF

end

 AUTHENTICATION CONFIGURATION 

 login:
   driver = plaintext
   public_name = LOGIN
   client_send = ": [EMAIL PROTECTED] : ** "


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Can't install latest gnucash

[Andy Davidson]

I wanted to upgrade to the latest version of gnucash which has some
features I need that are not in the stable version (1.3.4)  But it is
only in unstable, so I added the following line to sources.list
deb http://http.us.debian.org/ unstable main
and did an 'apt-get update' and then 'apt-get install gnucash'.  

But it failed with the following messages:
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  gnucash: Depends: libgal9 (>= 0.10) but it is not installable
   Depends: libgtkhtml14 (>= 0.11.1) but it is not installable

Am I out of luck until more is done with gnucash? Or have I --- heaven
forfend! --- made a mistake somewhere?

An additional question: If I now remove the above line from
sources.list and do 'apt-get update' will I have removed unstable
stuff from my package lists?

andy

Re: What is kapm-idled?

[Eric G. Miller]

On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 05:07:47AM +0800, csj wrote:
> What is kapm-idled and why is it consuming up to 80% CPU? It's most
> malevolent when my computer is doing nothing useful. What's the graceful
> way to disable or shut it down (assuming that doing so would not harm my
> system)?
> 
> apropos kapm
> kapm: nothing appropriate

AFAIK, kapm-idled has something to do with apm management on newer
kernels.  That 80% CPU usage is apparently something of a lie, since
when this process is switched in, it isn't doing anything (e.g. 80%
idled, or some such).  I'm still running in 2.2.x land, so maybe someone
else can give a better explanation...

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[no subject]

[METALFREAK666]

Sehr geehrte Damen und HErren 
ich habe ein probelem debian zu installieren
unzwar habe ich das asus a7v mit dem promise udma controller udma 100
daran ist eine udma 100 platte 20 gigs
Debian selber habe ich von www.linuxiso.org
die ersten 3 cd`s

hiermit konnte ich debian teilweise zum installieren kriegen

ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/udma66/
aber wenn ich die platte boote , dann kommen nach einieger zeit fehler ,
dass er einiege kernel iso images nicht finden kann
dann habe ich nur eine option : neustarten

was habe ich falsch gemacht , bez. wird der controller jemals komplett
unterstüzt werden ??? *g*


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Re: overkill...

[Jeff Maxson]

On 2 Sep 2001, Joel Mayes wrote:

>
> Jeff> ok, I installed overkill and the data file.  How do I run
> Jeff> it?  it seems to need a server and a port.  any ideas?
>
> G'day Jeff,
>
> You need to run the overkill server /usr/games/overkill-server (it
> might be in a seperate package) you can then connect to that, the
> default port should be OK and kick some ASCII but :)
>
> If your playing by yourself you should also run
> /usr/games/overkill-bot to give your self some targets

ok, I got it.  the local loopback worked.


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Re: What VPN is recommended?

[Haim Ashkenazi]

On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 03:12:12AM -1000, James L. Morton wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> On Mon, 2001-09-03 at 00:47, Rino Mardo wrote:
> > hi.  i have a working knowledge of vpn and i would just like: 
> > a)  confirmation with the list regarding my knowledge of how it works
> 
> You're basically correct in your assumptions:)  I'd be willing to bet
> there aren't many people out there who could tell you exactly how IPSEC
> works, but I can tell you the basics at least;)  When you're using
> IPSEC, all traffic destined for a particular network is encrypted and
> tunnelled through a single TCP port (ESP).  Any number of authentication
> and encryption methods can be used, but most use 3DES and IKE or
> Pre-shared keys.  You can filter traffic on that port as you normally
> would.
> 
> > b)  what vpn solution or approach would you recommend
> 
> We've been using FreeS/WAN successfully at work for six months now.
> Management could be a little bit easier, but that can be remedied with
> scripts (If I ever get around to it:).  As for actual performance
> though, I definitely can't complain.  I'm not sure about Potato, but
> Woody has both the FreeS/WAN kernel modules and userland utils
> available.

I've compiles and installed freeswan on potato successfully (I had to
recompile a kernel though). downloaded the sources from woody.

> 
> You can find more info here:
> http://jixen.tripod.com/
> and here:
> http://www.freeswan.org
> 
> 
> > you see in my previous job they've installed cisco's vpn client on one of
> > the laptops and a vpn feature in the pix firewall.  according to what
> > they've told me anywhere in the world this laptop user can access our
> > internal servers just by logging in to a local isp and using this vpn
> > client.  plus the connection would be secure.  
> 
> The connection is almost definitely secure, but the problem we struggle
> with at work is whether or not the client machine is secure.  We're very
> reluctant (Indeed, we haven't) offered software-based VPN's to any of
> our employees or clients.  It seems to us that the only comfortably
> secure solution is to give the client a hardware-based firewall/vpn
> appliance.  We're looking at some of the sweet embedded Linux devices
> now, but up until this point we've been giving out low-end workstations
> to our employees that act as a firewall/gateway/vpn.
> 
> now, am i right in saying
> > that i can also apply this with lotus notes clients who wants to sync their
> > databases and check their emails with the internal servers?  can vpn be done
> > using dial-up?  what about dynamic ip addresses on the vpn server will it be
> > ok?
> 
> Yep, it should work out for any application.  Your clients sitting on a
> VPN connection are, for all intents and purposes, on your LAN.  There
> are subtle differences (Such as their IP's being external,
> Internet-routable, and they miss out of broadcast messages) but for the
> most part you can think of them as being on a really-slow segment of
> your network:)  A VPN should be perfectly suited to support Notes-type
> applications.  We've run into problems running NFS over a VPN, but other
> than that everything has worked out just fine.

I think I can guess that if you're using Lotus Notes, most of your
employee's are working on windows. if that's correct, then you should
consider pptp instead of ipsec. I'm no windows whiz but I think that pptp
is easier to set then ipsec on windows (on linux it's a different
matter). it worked fine on a startup I was working for (all the
employee's were connecting to a cisco firewall with pptp and radius
authentication).

>  
> > having said that what vpn solution is recommended for lotus notes clients?
> 
> Welp, I haven't actually done it or read about it, but like I said, I
> suspect it would work out with little or no problems.
> 
> > thank you.
> 
> No problem:))
> 
> - James Morton
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

Bye
--
Haim

Re: overkill...

[Jeff Maxson]

On 2 Sep 2001, Joel Mayes wrote:

>
> Jeff> ok, I installed overkill and the data file.  How do I run
> Jeff> it?  it seems to need a server and a port.  any ideas?
>
> G'day Jeff,
>
> You need to run the overkill server /usr/games/overkill-server (it
> might be in a seperate package) you can then connect to that, the
> default port should be OK and kick some ASCII but :)
>
> If your playing by yourself you should also run
> /usr/games/overkill-bot to give your self some targets

ha ha!!  cool...now that I have it started (the server), how do I connect
to it?  That is, what do I put in the "server" slot? some local thing, I
hope.  I'm assuming port  (default) is valid... please bear with a
new-ish guy...


-- 
Jeff Maxson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

What is kapm-idled?

[csj]

What is kapm-idled and why is it consuming up to 80% CPU? It's most
malevolent when my computer is doing nothing useful. What's the graceful
way to disable or shut it down (assuming that doing so would not harm my
system)?

apropos kapm
kapm: nothing appropriate

802.11b reccommendation requested...

[Aaron Traas]

Hi... my campus just added a bunch of 802.11b base stations for wireless
access by students. I'm running Woody with a 2.4.7 kernel on a Dell
Inspiron 7500. Does anyone have any experience with an 802.11b wireless
adapter that works with Debian out-of-the-box?

My current network adapter is an Intel PRO/100 and modem combo card that
takes up both slots, and offers a real RJ45 and RJ11 ports, as opposed
to X-jacks or dongles. If I can get an 802.11b adapter that also has
this feature, so I don't have to swap all the time, that would be a huge
plus.

Thanks!

--Aaron

ot: vcd's on mtv

[p]

debs,

mtv plays mpg's, but i can't get it
to play vcd's:

cannot open cd-rom device: /dev/cdrom

permission denied

check env variable mtv vcd device (see 
"mtv -h" for help)

any guidance would be appreciated.

ia, t.

bentley taylor.

//

Voodoo5, unstable, X11 v.4, and gl apps

[John F. Davis]

Hello

I am trying to get quake3 arena working with debian.  So far, I have 
all the GL related stuff installed but I can't get quake3 to work
and all my rendering seems to be in software.

In my XF86Config-4 file, 
I have the glx and dri modules loaded.
I have the tdfx and glide drivers installed.

Section "Module"
Load"dbe"   # Double buffer extension
# initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.
SubSection  "extmod"
#  Option"omit xfree86-dga"   # don't initialise the DGA
#  extension
EndSubSection
# This loads the Type1 and FreeType font modules
Load"type1"
Load"freetype"
Load"glx"
Load"dri"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "My_Voodoo_5"
Driver "tdfx"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "My Voodoo 5
glide"
Driver "glide"
Option "dpms" "on"
Option "GlideDevice" "0"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier  "Screen 1"
Device  "My_Voodoo_5"
Monitor "My Monitor"
DefaultDepth 16

Subsection "Display"
Depth   16
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection


However when I run glxinfo, I get :

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/games/quake3$ glxinfo
name of display: :0.0
WARNING: This Mesa Library includes the Glide driver but
you have not defined the MESA_GLX_FX env. var.
(check the README.3DFX file for more information).

you can disable this message with a 'export
MESA_GLX_FX=disable'.
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: Brian Paul
server glx version string: 1.3 Mesa 3.4.2

When I run glxgears, I get :

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/games/quake3$ glxgears
WARNING: This Mesa Library includes the Glide driver but
you have not defined the MESA_GLX_FX env. var.
(check the README.3DFX file for more information).

you can disable this message with a 'export
MESA_GLX_FX=disable'.

If I try to fix that by defining MESA_GLX_FX I get an error:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/games/quake3$ export MESA_GLX_FX=fullscreen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/games/quake3$ glxgears
gd error (glide): Can't find or access Banshee/V3 board
gd error (glide): grSstSelect:  non-existent SSTSegmentation fault

Lastly, if I run quake3, It flashes the screen, stops and then gives a 
similar error:

- Client Initialization -
- Initializing Renderer 
---
- Client Initialization Complete -
- R_Init -
...loading libGL.so: Initializing OpenGL display
...setting mode 3: 640 480
Using XFree86-VidModeExtension Version 2.1
XF86DGA Mouse (Version 2.0) initialized
XFree86-VidModeExtension Activated at 640x480
Using 4/4/4 Color bits, 16 depth, 0 stencil display.
gd error (glide): Can't find or access Banshee/V3 board
gd error (glide): grSstSelect:  non-existent SSTReceived signal 11,
exiting...


For what its worth, I tried to apt-get install as much as possible.
So, I installed mesa3-glide2 but I don't think that works for voodoo5 so
I installed the glide3 source and installed it.  At least I think I
installed it.  But it didn't seem to help things.

Any help is appreciated.

John

Re: xwrapper not available?

[ajlewis2]

In linux.debian.user, you wrote:
>> >>   We strongly advice against make the server SUID!
> 
> So, I won't..  But thanks for your workaround.  Does anybody know were
> Xwrapper can be found for a Debian potato installation?

apropos Xwrapper yeilds: Xwrapper.config
man Xwrapper.config has this:

/etc/X11/Xwrapper.config contains  a  set  of  flags  that
determine  some of the behavior of Debian's X server wrap-
per, which is installed on the system as /usr/X11R6/bin/X.

Anita

Re: Security from others when server running

[Robert Waldner]

On Mon, 03 Sep 2001 15:33:50 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>Hi, I'm running a server in a public location, and the applications running 
>on the server run in their own virtual console (or an xterm window). However, 
>if someone came up and closed the xterm or hit ^C they could cancel the 
>server operation, which risks data loss, server failure, etc., and they would 
>also have full access to every aspect of the user account the server is run 
>on.
>
>Is there a good way to keep others from messing with the server?

While there´s no real way without removing the physical access, but 
 xlockmore et al would spring to mind ;-)

cheers,
&rw
-- 
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Re: Security from others when server running

[Dimitri Maziuk]

* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> Hi, I'm running a server in a public location, and the applications running 
> on the server run in their own virtual console (or an xterm window). However, 
> if someone came up and closed the xterm or hit ^C they could cancel the 
> server operation, which risks data loss, server failure, etc., and they would 
> also have full access to every aspect of the user account the server is run 
> on.
> 
> Is there a good way to keep others from messing with the server?

Why, yes, of course. Tracking motion sensor coupled with a chain gun
comes to mind. Aim at the knees for maximum effect. Electrified razor
wire is another possibility.

Otherwise, no. Either put the server where "someones" cannot get to it,
or run applications that don't need a terminal window, run happily in the
background and save their state information accross restarts.

Dima
-- 
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I'm going to exit now since you don't want me to replace the printcap. If you 
change your mind later, run -- magicfilter config script

Re: Offline APT

[Thomas Bleicher]

On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 10:00:24AM +0100, Ross Burton wrote:
> I got this reply off-list:
> 
> On Sat, 2001-09-01 at 12:40, Thomas Bleicher wrote:
> > I do:
> > 
> > apt-get -qq --print-uris [upgrade | install ] > urls
> > 
> > and then run my script on the file urls.

Now it has a name to ;)

  $ ziplist.py urls

I added a bit interactivity this afternoon; you can now decide to create
the shell-scripts during the run -- or to put some huge packages on hold
before (dselect or dpkg). It's not very good tested, sorry.
 
> > When I come back with the filled zips, i just copy all the downloaded
> > files to /var/cache/apt/archives/. Then I can run "apt-get upgrade" and
> > when the archive is scanned, all packages are found and installed,
> > provided all have been downloaded successfully. If not, apt tells me
> > what is still missing and I can start again ;)

The biggest problem I see is, that wget will always create a file, even
if it could not be downloaded correctly; apt might get very confused,
when it encounters such a file (or does it recognise this case?).

You should check the downloads or modify the wget-lines to create a
log-file as well.

> This is what I did in the end without the Python script.  I didn't want
> to copy 200 meg of debs into archives/ 

?? they will be copied there anyway. If you don't run 

 apt-get clean
or   apt-get auto-clean

they will even stay there.

> and as the option to specify the archive directory didn't work for me,
> I tried symlinking the entire directory of downloaded debs into the
> archives.

Try this:

mv /var/cache/apt/archives /var/cache/apt/archives.backup
ln -s /your/directory /var/cache/apt/archives"

If you have some files in your archive that are needed for the upgrade,
apt will complain that they are missing and you'll have to get them
again (or copy from archives.backup).

> That also didn't work.  :-(  In the end I had to copy it but I'd
> prefer to have a directory on my spare disk which Apt used as the
> cache.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:tux $ll /var/cache/apt
total 6444
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   23 Aug  1 20:26 archives -> 
/usr/local/apt/archives
-rw-r--r--1 root root  3360906 Sep  2 10:50 pkgcache.bin
-rw-r--r--1 root root  3264856 Sep  2 10:50 srcpkgcache.bin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:tux $df 
Filesystem   1k-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hdc194647 42150 47610  47% /
/dev/hdc2   197657 91579 95872  49% /var
/dev/hdc5  2479816   1263548   1090296  54% /usr
/dev/hdc6  2480824   1571884782920  67% /usr/local
/dev/hdc7  3844584   1728788   1920500  48% /home

Something like this? Works perfectly here.

> Thomas, could you email me that script?  It sounds like what I want to
> do, especially if I could get Dir::Cache::archive working.

See attachment. Sorry if you will get two copies, but I don't know if
I'll make it to the list.

Thomas


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Security from others when server running

[JakeCatfox]

Hi, I'm running a server in a public location, and the applications running 
on the server run in their own virtual console (or an xterm window). However, 
if someone came up and closed the xterm or hit ^C they could cancel the 
server operation, which risks data loss, server failure, etc., and they would 
also have full access to every aspect of the user account the server is run 
on.

Is there a good way to keep others from messing with the server?

Thanks,
Deven G.

Re: dominate xdm?

[ktb]

On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 11:43:07AM -0400, richard wrote:
> New install and just got X to work. xdm starts twm, which is lame, on
> VC7 with a login. You can't get out of it on that console. Startx won't
> work anywhere of cours.
> 
> I want to use e.g. icewm. How do I reconfigure xdm to default to a
> different
> window manager, and/or turn xdm off? I couldn't find the script to
> change in /etc/X11.
> 
> I wrote a test .xsession file (did make executable) with just exec
> xterm. Even though allow-user-xsession does in
> /etc/X11/Xsession.options, that $HOME/.xsession doesn't prevail and
> still stuck with twm.

If you don't want a graphical login remove xdm with apt-get.

To load icewm from xdm or startx, if the executable name is "icewn" put -
exec icewm
in ~/.xsession

Make sure all "exec" lines are backgrounded with "&" except one.  

For example -

#!/bin/sh
exec xterm &
exec icewm

Used in this manner .xsession doesn't have to be set as executable.
hth,
kent

Re: startx not for normal user?

[Eric G. Miller]

On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 06:18:57PM +0200, Remco van 't Veer wrote:
> Hmm, after trying gdm (with partial success) and reinstalling xdm,
> the latter seems to work..  But I still don't understand why I am not
> allowed to run startx.  I noticed /etc/X11/Xserver reads Console,
> which seems to imply anybody on the console is allowed to run X.

If this is X 4 we're talking about, then /etc/X11/Xserver is not used.
See instead /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config for a line like

allowed_users=console

-- 
Eric G. Miller 

dominate xdm?

[richard]

New install and just got X to work. xdm starts twm, which is lame, on
VC7 with a login. You can't get out of it on that console. Startx won't
work anywhere of cours.

I want to use e.g. icewm. How do I reconfigure xdm to default to a
different
window manager, and/or turn xdm off? I couldn't find the script to
change in /etc/X11.

I wrote a test .xsession file (did make executable) with just exec
xterm. Even though allow-user-xsession does in
/etc/X11/Xsession.options, that $HOME/.xsession doesn't prevail and
still stuck with twm.

Matrox G450 comments?

[Gregory T. Norris]

I need to replace the video card on one of my boxes, and I'm thinking
of getting a Matrox G450.  I'd appreciate any comments on how well this
card is working for people.  I don't have any real need for dual-head
support, so I don't plan on using the binary-only mga.o driver from
Matrox... I'd greatly prefer to stick with the XFree86 driver, if
possible.

Suggestions for alternate graphic cards are also welcome, of course. 
Thanx!


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Re: mounting CDs? and emacs under SU?

[Karsten M. Self]

on Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 08:56:20PM -0400, Peter Christensen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:

> This is how I did it (I think!) before my hard drive crashed and I had
> to replace it.  Now that I've reloaded Linux I can't edit /etc/fstab
> with emacs.  Emacs works OK with a normal signon, but under SU I get the
> following messages:
> 
>   Xlib:  connection to ":0.0" refused by server
>   Xlib:  Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
>   emacs:  Cannot connect to X server :0.0
>   check the display environment variable or use "-d"
>   Also use the 'xhost' program to verify that it is set to permit
> connections from your machine

The problem here is how you're going root, and your X authentication.

I'd highly recommend sudo over su for gaining root access, even if it
only means you're doing 'sudo -s' (or 'sudo su -' as I do) to gain a
full root shell.  There's been past discussion here of benefits (and
criticisms, notably by Ethan Benson).  If you're going to use su, add
the '-' argument to get a login (fully initialized) shell.

The X access issue has to do with your MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE.  

Do ***NOT*** use 'xhost' to provide access to your X session, this is
highly dangerous.  Though, more recently, forbidding remote X
connections with the -nolisten option is becoming a default.

To allow X access to a specific dispaly:

  - Set your DISPLAY variable appropriately.
  - If root, merge your .Xauthority file with that of the user running
the X session, e.g.:

  $ xauth -merge ~peter/.Xauthority

This should allow launching X clients to the display.

The message you cite should be filed as a bug against emacs, it is
providing outdated, dangerous, advice.

Cheers.

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Re: GNOME Blank Screensaver

[Tim Moss]

Adam Warner wrote:

Hi all,

Does anyone know how to set up a blank screensaver under GNOME?

I've checked web and newsgroup archives and I can't find a solution that
works!

I'm running Debian unstable.

Even if I add a file in /usr/share/control-center/.data called
Blank.desktop with these contents:

[Desktop Entry]
Name=Blank Screensaver
Comment=
Exec=xscreensaver-command -activate
TryExec=
Terminal=0
Type=Application

[Screensaver Data]
WindowIdCommand=
RootCommand=
Icon=
Author=
ExtendedComment=
Demo=


I get a random screensaver!

Many thanks,
Adam



I think if you run
xscreensaver-demo
and deselect all the screensavers, it will do you you want.

Re: What replaces glimpse?

[Anthony Campbell]

On 03 Sep 2001, Andras BALI wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 05:38:25PM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> 
> > Htdig seems to be for html only.
> 
> To be a bit more precise, it can index files that can be retrieved
> using the HTTP protocol. The core program can index only HTML and
> plain text files, but you can use external parsers for any type of
> files (eg. msword, pdf, postscript). And you can always make your
> files available through HTTP by using web server software.
> 
> > Namazu didn't work for me - kept producing error messages in
> > Japanese!
> 
> There's a tutorial at  and a
> manual at .
> 
> > I got the swish++ deb package but it didn't install the binary - a
> > bug in the package on testing?
> 
> The package contains the following binaries:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg-deb -c 
> /debian/ftp/pool/main/s/swish++/swish++_5.1-0.1_i386.deb | grep bin/
> drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2001-07-13 06:27:44 ./usr/bin/
> -rwxr-xr-x root/root 91804 2001-07-13 06:27:44 ./usr/bin/search++
> -rwxr-xr-x root/root154684 2001-07-13 06:27:44 ./usr/bin/index++
> -rwxr-xr-x root/root  2536 2001-07-13 06:27:42 ./usr/bin/httpindex
> -rwxr-xr-x root/root  5200 2001-07-13 06:27:42 ./usr/bin/searchc
> -rwxr-xr-x root/root 75612 2001-07-13 06:27:44 ./usr/bin/extract++
> -rwxr-xr-x root/root  1179 2001-07-13 06:27:42 ./usr/bin/splitmail++
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ md5sum 
> /debian/ftp/pool/main/s/swish++/swish++_5.1-0.1_i386.deb
> 9e8681bda1367582915ff95990a35b57 
> /debian/ftp/pool/main/s/swish++/swish++_5.1-0.1_i386.deb
> 
> Read the index++(1), extract++(1) and search++(1) manual pages for
> information on using swish++.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- 
> BALI, Andra's  GPG keyID: 78560E1C
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 

Many thanks for this information - very helpful. I looked for swish,
swish++ and search but didn't think of search++ (I realise I should have
looked at the package itself).

Regards.

Anthony


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Re: What replaces glimpse?

[Andras BALI]

On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 05:38:25PM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:

> Htdig seems to be for html only.

To be a bit more precise, it can index files that can be retrieved
using the HTTP protocol. The core program can index only HTML and
plain text files, but you can use external parsers for any type of
files (eg. msword, pdf, postscript). And you can always make your
files available through HTTP by using web server software.

> Namazu didn't work for me - kept producing error messages in
> Japanese!

There's a tutorial at  and a
manual at .

> I got the swish++ deb package but it didn't install the binary - a
> bug in the package on testing?

The package contains the following binaries:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg-deb -c 
/debian/ftp/pool/main/s/swish++/swish++_5.1-0.1_i386.deb | grep bin/
drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2001-07-13 06:27:44 ./usr/bin/
-rwxr-xr-x root/root 91804 2001-07-13 06:27:44 ./usr/bin/search++
-rwxr-xr-x root/root154684 2001-07-13 06:27:44 ./usr/bin/index++
-rwxr-xr-x root/root  2536 2001-07-13 06:27:42 ./usr/bin/httpindex
-rwxr-xr-x root/root  5200 2001-07-13 06:27:42 ./usr/bin/searchc
-rwxr-xr-x root/root 75612 2001-07-13 06:27:44 ./usr/bin/extract++
-rwxr-xr-x root/root  1179 2001-07-13 06:27:42 ./usr/bin/splitmail++
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ md5sum 
/debian/ftp/pool/main/s/swish++/swish++_5.1-0.1_i386.deb
9e8681bda1367582915ff95990a35b57 
/debian/ftp/pool/main/s/swish++/swish++_5.1-0.1_i386.deb

Read the index++(1), extract++(1) and search++(1) manual pages for
information on using swish++.

Regards,

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Re[4]: startx not for normal user?

[Calvin Chong]

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Hello Martin,

With reference to your great message on below,
MFK> also sprach Calvin Chong (on Tue, 04 Sep 2001 12:21:25AM +0800):
>> Please check that your X is chmod'ed to rwsrwsr-x

MFK> don't make X setuid!!!

if I don't make /usr/bin/X11/X suid how can Xwrapper work?
correct me if i'm wrong.. :-)

regards,
evil

MFK> martin;  (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
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Re: startx on another terminal say, tty8 and then tty9

[Karsten M. Self]

on Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 10:25:59PM +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> A]] I tried startx -l:8 for getting
> XWindows onto tty8 and then Ctrl+Alt+F8 to get there
> 
> Result : 
>(1) If the machine has not put up XWindows by default, then it comes
>on tty7 , which is the default.
>
>(2) if XWindows comes up as default , then this shows an error ,
>   saying that display is already active on 0.
> 
> Then I did from another user's shell :
> startx -l:10  for getting
> XWindows onto tty9 and then Ctrl+Alt+F9 to get there.
> 
>  Result : this shows an error , saying that display is already active
>  on 0.
> 
> 
> I remember some member of the list confidently assuring members that
> you can open XWindows display on more than one virtual terminal .

Your invocations should be:

$ startx -- : vtXX

e.g.: 

$ startx -- :1 vt8

For more info, see man (1) XFree86.

Cheers.

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Re: nvidia-glx and dpkg-divert

[Geoffrey Romer]

> > Dude, the Debs are just a packaged version of the Nvidia drivers, and
> > auto-download from Nividia's site, so it makes no difference.
> 
> It certainly does make a difference. I was not criticising Debian
> packages/maintainers, merely the nature of the Nvidia drviers.

As far as supporting nvidia, it makes no difference whether you download
their tarball drivers or install the nvidia-glx-src and nvidia-kernel-src
Debs, because the latter are just a packaged version of the former, and
are designed to auto-download the necessary files from Nvidia's site, so
as far as 'supporting' Nvidia's non-free drivers, it's the same either
way.

As for this notion of 'supporting' Nvidia by d/ling non-free drivers,
 oh, yes, Nvidia's executives are just waiting with bated breath
for the next batch of FTP logs so they can see how popular their drivers
are.

> > And, from what I'm told, Nvidia would like to open their drivers
> 
> 
> Oh yes, that's right, because Nvidia "care" deeply about such things :P
> 

Probably not, but as a company run by (presumably) intelligent people they
understand that closing their drivers is not in their best interests from
a business standpoint, which is why they opened the 'nv' driver in the
base X distribution.

> > Regardless, I like the debs
> 
> I like debs, I think their geat however I think Nvidia's drivers are
> evil. Is there anything actually preventing you from using XF86 "nv"?

Well, just the fact that I like using my card's 3D capabilities. The 
'nvidia' and 'nv' drivers are more or less the same, except that the former
supports 3D, but consequently has to be closed-source in order to comply 
with  Nvidia's licence with SGI for OpenGL. It's SGI that people should
be griping about.

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Re: kill netscape persistant

[ktb]

On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 06:33:13PM +0200, Thomas Halahan wrote:
> 
> When netscape (4.75) crashes I often still get:
> 
> "PID" /usr/lib/netscape/475/navigator/navigator-smotif.real
> 
> running under processes.  even if i try to explicitly kill 
> it with its pid it will not go away.  this is really 
> inconvenient as to get rid of this process running in the 
> background i end up shuting down.  has anyone any 
> suggestions?

You need to kill both the pid and remove the ~/.netscape/lock file.
BTW try "kill -12" when trying to kill netscape.  It is suppose to save
bookmarks and such.  If that doesn't work then "kill -9" it.
hth,
kent

Re : append still does not solve the problem NB : Please cc: me if you have any solution

[shyamk]

As you suggested I gave the append entry :
Image   = /boot/kernel-2.4.9
label   = Woody-249
Root= /dev/hda10
VGA = 0x31A
append  = "hdd=cdrom lp=parport0 parport=0x378,none video=vesa"

(my lilo as installed looks slightly different but that hasn't created any 
problems
on any other machine and shouldn't be the cause here.)
 Summary :
Starting lpd :parport0 : detected irq 7 ; use procfs to enable 
interrupt
driven operation
 continues to occur.




I would like to ask you about Interrupts and Parport.

As per the rules who gets Interrupt 7 ?
Is it Parport0 ?

Should I now modify the append line to turn 'none' into 7 ?


Thanks,
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Shyam

kill netscape persistant

[Thomas Halahan]

When netscape (4.75) crashes I often still get:

"PID" /usr/lib/netscape/475/navigator/navigator-smotif.real

running under processes.  even if i try to explicitly kill 
it with its pid it will not go away.  this is really 
inconvenient as to get rid of this process running in the 
background i end up shuting down.  has anyone any 
suggestions?

tom

Re: xwrapper not available? (Re: startx not for normal user?)

[Calvin Chong]

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Hello Remco,

With reference to your great message on below,
>> >>   We strongly advice against make the server SUID!

eh?!

please stat /usr/bin/X11/X urself!! :p

RvtV> So, I won't..  But thanks for your workaround.  Does anybody know were
RvtV> Xwrapper can be found for a Debian potato installation?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/X11$ cat Xwrapper.config
allowed_users=console
nice_value=-10

check if your Xwrapper.config is looking like this.

RvtV> On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 00:21, Calvin Chong wrote:


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Re: Programming in Java

[Thomas Halahan]

be warned, i did this and X was upgraded with the jdk, and 
x broke which took a while to fix.

>
> echo "deb ftp://ftp.tux.org/pub/java/debian potato
> non-free" >> /etc/apt/sources.list (all one line)
>
> apt-get update
>
> apt-get install j2sdk1.3
>
> > Have a look the packages "jikes" and
> > "ibm-fdk1.1-installer" for example.
> >

Re: Gnome Freeze (me too!)

[Rick Macdonald]

On Sun, 2 Sep 2001, dman wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 11:22:23PM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote:
> | Worse! I think I had the wrong sound card driver. I've rebuilt the kernel
> | sound, but now I get the dreaded "Can't Open /dev/dsp device". I haven't
> | figured out why yet.
> 
> I recommend building all the (potentially relevant) sound drivers as a
> modules so that you can toy with them and try different settings
> without going through a recompile and a reboot.  If some specific
> kernel features aren't absolutely essential then you could use a stock
> kernel to figure out what you need for sound since the stock kernels
> come with just about everything in module form.

Good idea. I still have the original potato kernel (since upgraded to
woody/sid) so I tried it. After trying several other drivers I went full
circle and convinced myself that I do have the right driver (i810_audio),
which is the one that caused sawfish to hang when gnome window events had
sound turned on.

It does work somewhat:

I can run "play english.au" and it sounds perfect but gives these
messages:

playing english.au
sox: Sound card appears to only support singled word samples.  Overriding
format
sox: Sound card appears to only support 2 channels.  Overriding format

If I try to play the same file with xanim, the sound is all choppy and
fast (sounds like The Chipmunks).

Maybe the i810 support isn't very good?

...RickM...

Full screen on xine

[BT]

Hi,
I am unable to make xine display fullscreen. The "F" key does not work even 
with the " -pf" option . Any ideas?
regards
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xwrapper not available? (Re: startx not for normal user?)

[Remco van 't Veer]

> >>   We strongly advice against make the server SUID!

So, I won't..  But thanks for your workaround.  Does anybody know were
Xwrapper can be found for a Debian potato installation?


On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 00:21, Calvin Chong wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: MD5
> 
> Hello Remco,
> 
> With reference to your great message on below,
> RvtV> Hmm, after trying gdm (with partial success) and reinstalling xdm,
> RvtV> the latter seems to work..  But I still don't understand why I am not
> RvtV> allowed to run startx.  I noticed /etc/X11/Xserver reads Console,
> RvtV> which seems to imply anybody on the console is allowed to run X.
> 
> RvtV> I am sorry about replying to my own post..
> 
> Please check that your X is chmod'ed to rwsrwsr-x
> 
> :-)
> 
> regards,
> evil
> 
> RvtV> On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 18:04, Remco van 't Veer wrote:
> 
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I just installed Debian on a fresh workstation but only root can open
> >> a X session.  First I tried startx using a normal user but it
> >> complains:
> >>
> >>   xf86OpenConsole: Server must be running with root permissions.
> >>   You should be using Xwrapper to start the server or xdm.
> >>   We strongly advice against make the server SUID!
> >>
> >> I am unable to find Xwrapper and xdm doesn't let me login.  Xdm
> >> restarts immediately after I type my password.  The logfile xdm.log
> >> reads:
> >>
> >>   AUDIT: Mon Sep 3 16:00:00 2001: 599 X: client 2 rejected from local host
> >> Auth name: XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1 ID: -1
> >>   Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
> >>   ..
> >>
> >> I removed the .Xauthority file, but that does not help.  Does anybody
> >> know how I can fix this?
> >>
> >> TIA,
> >> Remco
> 
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Re: startx on another terminal say, tty8 and then tty9

[ktb]

On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 10:25:59PM +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> A]] I tried startx -l:8 for getting
> XWindows onto tty8 and then Ctrl+Alt+F8 to get there
> 
>  Result : (1)If the machine has not put up XWindows by default , then 
> it
> comes on tty7 , which is the default.
>  (2) if XWindows comes up as default , then this shows an 
> error ,
> saying that display is already active on 0.
> 
> B]] Then I did from another user's shell :
> startx -l:10  for getting
> XWindows onto tty9 and then Ctrl+Alt+F9 to get there.
> 
>  Result : this shows an error , saying that display is already active on 0.
> 
> 
> I remember some member of the list confidently assuring members that you can 
> open
> XWindows display on more than one virtual terminal .
> 


$ startx -- :1 
should work.  By default it will be running on F8 if you have X running
on F7 already.
hth,
kent

Re: Re[2]: startx not for normal user?

[Martin F Krafft]

also sprach Calvin Chong (on Tue, 04 Sep 2001 12:21:25AM +0800):
> Please check that your X is chmod'ed to rwsrwsr-x

don't make X setuid!!!

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startx on another terminal say, tty8 and then tty9

[shyamk]

A]] I tried startx -l:8 for getting
XWindows onto tty8 and then Ctrl+Alt+F8 to get there

 Result : (1)If the machine has not put up XWindows by default , then it
comes on tty7 , which is the default.
 (2) if XWindows comes up as default , then this shows an error 
,
saying that display is already active on 0.

B]] Then I did from another user's shell :
startx -l:10  for getting
XWindows onto tty9 and then Ctrl+Alt+F9 to get there.

 Result : this shows an error , saying that display is already active on 0.


I remember some member of the list confidently assuring members that you can 
open
XWindows display on more than one virtual terminal .

Please help . Urgently
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Shyam

Re: What replaces glimpse?

[Anthony Campbell]

On 03 Sep 2001, Andras BALI wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 03:14:58PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> 
> > > Apt/dselect has just removed my glimpse package :-(
> > > What is supposed to replace this?
> 
> > I've occasionally found packages removed in updates, recently it was
> > aptitude.  Not sure why.
> 
> No, glimpse is removed from the Debian archive for good due to the
> fact that there was no new upload for almost three years and it had a
> grave security bug since March 2000.  Newer upstream versions of
> glimpse seems to have unacceptable license for Debian.
> 
> More information:
> http://bugs.debian.org/glimpse
> http://bugs.debian.org/60852
> http://bugs.debian.org/109355
> http://webglimpse.net/licensing.html
> 
> You could try `htdig', `namazu' or `swish++' for indexing your
> documents.
> 
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Yes, after looking at the glimpse web page I gathered that it was
probably a 'political' decision to remove it; it seems to have become
shareware, so it's fair enough.

Htdig seems to be for html only. Namazu didn't work for me - kept producing
error messages in Japanese!  I got the swish++ deb package but it didn't
install the binary - a bug in the package on testing? Finally I got the
tar.gz package from the swish++ website (it's actually NOT compressed,
just a tar package), and it seems to be working now after compiling.

Thanks to all for help.

Anthony


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Re: Weird font problem with gnumeric, gimp and others

[Calvin Chong]

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Hello Dominique,

With reference to your great message on below,

DD> Hello

DD> When I launch gimp (for the first time), the 'GIMP Installation'
DD> window shows only lines and lines of squares instead of text.

Please give some information about your locale set.. :-)
and it would be best if you could

[problematic program] 2>&1 | tee error_msg

and attach it :-)

DD> I have the same problem with gnumeric cells but only for a
DD> magnification above 75%. And if I type 6 letters in a gnumeric cell,
DD> only 3 square blocks are shown. (could it be an attempt to display 16
DD> bits characters ?)

Then i wonder that it's a function-not-a-problem... :-)
it may be an attempt to hide small character (correct me if i'm wrong)
to give u a general look on your spreadsheet.

DD> The number are displayed correctly in gnumeric if I choose a
DD> magnification below 100%.

[Question] what about 100% > magn > 75%? huh? :P

DD> I'm running unstable debian on a 1600x1200 display.

DD> Here's the configuration of my xserver:
DD> Font Path:
DD>   /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc,
DD>   /usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,
DD>   /usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,
DD>   /usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,
DD>   /usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,
DD>   /usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,
DD>   /usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi,
DD>   /usr/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/

These are not a problem...

DD> Has anyone a clue on how to fix this problem ?

DD> Thanks





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Weird font problem with gnumeric, gimp and others

[Dominique Dumont]

Hello

When I launch gimp (for the first time), the 'GIMP Installation'
window shows only lines and lines of squares instead of text.

I have the same problem with gnumeric cells but only for a
magnification above 75%. And if I type 6 letters in a gnumeric cell,
only 3 square blocks are shown. (could it be an attempt to display 16
bits characters ?)

The number are displayed correctly in gnumeric if I choose a
magnification below 100%.

I'm running unstable debian on a 1600x1200 display.

Here's the configuration of my xserver:
Font Path:
  /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc,
  /usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,
  /usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,
  /usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,
  /usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,
  /usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,
  /usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi,
  /usr/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/


Has anyone a clue on how to fix this problem ?

Thanks

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Re[2]: startx not for normal user?

[Calvin Chong]

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Hello Remco,

With reference to your great message on below,
RvtV> Hmm, after trying gdm (with partial success) and reinstalling xdm,
RvtV> the latter seems to work..  But I still don't understand why I am not
RvtV> allowed to run startx.  I noticed /etc/X11/Xserver reads Console,
RvtV> which seems to imply anybody on the console is allowed to run X.

RvtV> I am sorry about replying to my own post..

Please check that your X is chmod'ed to rwsrwsr-x

:-)

regards,
evil

RvtV> On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 18:04, Remco van 't Veer wrote:

>> Hi,
>>
>> I just installed Debian on a fresh workstation but only root can open
>> a X session.  First I tried startx using a normal user but it
>> complains:
>>
>>   xf86OpenConsole: Server must be running with root permissions.
>>   You should be using Xwrapper to start the server or xdm.
>>   We strongly advice against make the server SUID!
>>
>> I am unable to find Xwrapper and xdm doesn't let me login.  Xdm
>> restarts immediately after I type my password.  The logfile xdm.log
>> reads:
>>
>>   AUDIT: Mon Sep 3 16:00:00 2001: 599 X: client 2 rejected from local host
>> Auth name: XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1 ID: -1
>>   Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
>>   ..
>>
>> I removed the .Xauthority file, but that does not help.  Does anybody
>> know how I can fix this?
>>
>> TIA,
>> Remco






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Re: startx not for normal user?

[Remco van 't Veer]

Hmm, after trying gdm (with partial success) and reinstalling xdm,
the latter seems to work..  But I still don't understand why I am not
allowed to run startx.  I noticed /etc/X11/Xserver reads Console,
which seems to imply anybody on the console is allowed to run X.

I am sorry about replying to my own post..


On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 18:04, Remco van 't Veer wrote:

> Hi, 
> 
> I just installed Debian on a fresh workstation but only root can open
> a X session.  First I tried startx using a normal user but it
> complains:
> 
>   xf86OpenConsole: Server must be running with root permissions.
>   You should be using Xwrapper to start the server or xdm.
>   We strongly advice against make the server SUID!
> 
> I am unable to find Xwrapper and xdm doesn't let me login.  Xdm
> restarts immediately after I type my password.  The logfile xdm.log
> reads:
> 
>   AUDIT: Mon Sep 3 16:00:00 2001: 599 X: client 2 rejected from local host
> Auth name: XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1 ID: -1
>   Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
>   ..
> 
> I removed the .Xauthority file, but that does not help.  Does anybody
> know how I can fix this?
> 
> TIA,
> Remco


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startx not for normal user?

[Remco van 't Veer]

Hi, 

I just installed Debian on a fresh workstation but only root can open
a X session.  First I tried startx using a normal user but it
complains:

  xf86OpenConsole: Server must be running with root permissions.
  You should be using Xwrapper to start the server or xdm.
  We strongly advice against make the server SUID!

I am unable to find Xwrapper and xdm doesn't let me login.  Xdm
restarts immediately after I type my password.  The logfile xdm.log
reads:

  AUDIT: Mon Sep 3 16:00:00 2001: 599 X: client 2 rejected from local host
Auth name: XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1 ID: -1
  Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
  ..

I removed the .Xauthority file, but that does not help.  Does anybody
know how I can fix this?

TIA,
Remco


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Kernel Error in Syslog and X keeps crashing!

[Case, Benjamin]

Every once in a while X just freezes up on me. I have to hard reboot. Weh I
come back up there is this message in syslog :

Sep  2 20:28:11 tbird kernel: NVRM: loading NVIDIA kernel module version
1.0-1251
Sep  2 20:41:31 tbird kernel: Unable to handle kernel paging request at
virtual address 2087844c
Sep  2 20:41:31 tbird kernel:  printing eip:
Sep  2 20:41:31 tbird kernel: c0217895
Sep  2 20:41:31 tbird kernel: *pde = 
Sep  2 20:41:31 tbird kernel: Oops: 
Sep  2 20:41:31 tbird kernel: CPU:0
Sep  2 20:41:31 tbird kernel: EIP:0010:[unix_poll+117/160]
Sep  2 20:41:31 tbird kernel: EFLAGS: 00010206
Sep  2 20:41:31 tbird kernel: eax:    ebx: d58783c0   ecx: 
edx: 7800
Sep  2 20:41:31 tbird kernel: esi: d59dbac0   edi:    ebp: d57dbf74
esp: d57dbf24
Sep  2 20:41:31 tbird kernel: ds: 0018   es: 0018   ss: 0018
Sep  2 20:41:31 tbird kernel: Process XFree86 (pid: 165, stackpage=d57db000)
Sep  2 20:41:31 tbird kernel: Stack: d59dbac0 c01e59c3 d59dbac0 d573aacc
  c013b5d6 d59dbac0
Sep  2 20:41:31 tbird kernel: 0020 0008 dfb09f80
0145 0008 d57da000 262f
Sep  2 20:41:31 tbird kernel:0003   cfa4a000
 c013ba2a 0010 d57dbfa8
Sep  2 20:41:31 tbird kernel: Call Trace: [sock_poll+35/48]
[do_select+230/480] [sys_select+810/1136] [system_call+51/56]
Sep  2 20:41:31 tbird kernel:
Sep  2 20:41:31 tbird kernel: Code: 3b 93 8c 00 00 00 0f 9e c0 0f b6 d0 89
c8 0d 04 03 00 00 85

Re: modem not detected

[Paolo Alexis Falcone]

=?iso-8859-1?q?fouad=20HENNI?= wrote:

>Hello,
>I installed Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 (potato) on my PC but
>when I tried to configure my internet connexion (by
>wvdial) my modem was not detected.
>I have an internal Motorola SM56 internal modem.
>I noticed that 'wvdial' tried to detect the modem only
>on the serial ports 'ttyS0' and 'ttyS1'.
>Please Help.

You're using a winmodem. Try the module provided by motorola. And use minicom 
for the task (so says motorola). be forwarned - haven't tried this on a debian 
box. motorola claims they only tested it on rh7.1 (seawolf)

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Re: ppp configuration (LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests )

[John Hasler]

Dan Pomohaci writes:
> Using plog I saw that the connection is established but after few seconds
> the modem hangs. The last message in plog is: LCP: timeout sending
> Config-Requests

Please post the complete and exact output of plog and the contents of
/etc/chatscripts/provider and /etc/ppp/peers/provider.  Obfuscate any
passwords.
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richiesta di informazioni

[Sergio Biagiotti]

Buonasera, scusate il mio problema è il seguente :

ho un cliente che deve installare su 5 server HP LC2000 con le seguenti
configurazione:

PIII 933
512 mb ram
2 x 18 gb scsi 3 (160 mb) in raid 1
scheda raid PCI 1 canale SCSI 3 

la versione LINUX debian 2.2 


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Re: Matrox Millenium IIs and XFree86 3.6 - UPDATE

[Ryan Kirkpatrick]

On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Ryan Kirkpatrick wrote:

>   I am attempting to get a Matrox Millenium II card (4MB, PCI) to
> work with XFree86 3.6 (as found in potato), but no matter the resolution
> or color depth I choose, the picture has very obtrustive vertical lines
> (to the point that one can barely read any text).

First, let me thank everyone for their help, and the XF86Config
files you sent me. Unfortunately none of them work, but I figured out
why. After looking closer at the video card itself, I realized that a few
resistors have been sheared off! What I get for buying used computer
equipment w/o careful inspection. :(
Though I had two of these cards and the second one appears
intact/undamaged, so I installed that one. Much better, no more obtrusive
vertical lines. Though, I still have vertical lines and their behavior now
is much more interesting. They are even spaced across the screen, one
pixel wide, but only appear where there is text on the screen (i.e. in a
shell window, netscape, any where text is displayed), while graphics (i.e.
wallpaper or picture in netscape) are completely clean and fine. Even
stranger, the lines only extend on a line of text as far the text does. It
is almost like they are showing the tab settings or something!
I have tried all the XF86Config file sent to me again to no avail,
and messed with the HTotal value as well with out success. I doubt it is a
hardware problem this time as the lines are very software dependent
(i.e. hardware does not differentiate between graphics and text, it is just
pixels to it). So, does anyone have any more ideas? Thanks.

PS. If someone wants a screen shot to better see what I am
describing, let me know and I will send it to you via private email. 

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Re: server on a 486/100 with 408mb drive

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Jonathan,

On Monday, September 03, 2001 at 3:11:40 PM, 
you wrote (at least in part):

> you can get kernel 2.4 support in potato (I use this on production
> workstations), but adding this to /etc/apt/sources.list:

> #kernel 2.4 stuff
> deb http://people.debian.org/~bunk/debian potato main
> deb-src http://people.debian.org/~bunk/debian potato main

Correct, works like a charm and is simply GREAT :-)
I could recommend running POTATO and upgrading to 2.4 using above URI as I've
done it @home for my Gateway and it works without any problems including
iptables (that I needed to learn about them) :-)

-- 
Best regards
 Peter

Re: XFree86 4.1.0 with Potato & dri

[Rajesh Fowkar]

Jon Masters saw fit to inform me that: 
>On 02 Sep 2001 02:32:12 +, Rajesh Fowkar wrote:
>
>> Any ideas what am I missing ?
>
>Do you have agpgart and other modules correctly inserted? sometimes
>dependencies seem to miss-generated and fail to get the correct modules
>installed prior to the X server attempting to use them.
>

glxinfo gives me the following :


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ glxinfo 
name of display: :0.0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: No
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
client glx vendor string: SGI
client glx version string: 1.2
client glx extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
GLX extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
OpenGL vendor string: VA Linux Systems, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
OpenGL version string: 1.2 Mesa 3.4.2
OpenGL extensions:
GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_blend_color, 
GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract
glu version: 1.3
glu extensions:
GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess

   visual  x  bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer  ms  cav
 id dep cl sp sz l  ci b ro  r  g  b  a bf th cl  r  g  b  a ns b eat
--
0x23 16 tc  0 16  0 r  y  .  5  6  5  0  0 16  0  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
0x24 16 tc  0 16  0 r  y  .  5  6  5  0  0 16  8 16 16 16  0  0 0 None
0x25 16 dc  0 16  0 r  y  .  5  6  5  0  0 16  0  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
0x26 16 dc  0 16  0 r  y  .  5  6  5  0  0 16  8 16 16 16  0  0 0 None



It also says direct rendering : No.

Any ideas why ?

At present I have compiled both agpgart support and i810 support directly
into the kernel 2.4.9. and I am on XFree 4.1.0-2 

I have got mesalibs installed too.


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -l | grep mesa
ii  xlibmesa3  4.1.0-2XFree86 version of Mesa 3D graphics library
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ 



[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -l | grep xserver
ii  xserver-common 4.1.0-2files and utilities common to all X servers
ii  xserver-xfree8 4.1.0-2the XFree86 X server
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ 


Thanks in advance.

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ppp configuration (LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests )

[Dan Pomohaci]

Hi,

I try to connect to my ISP using pppconfig. I put all corect settings
(I tested in Windows and worked OK). Using plog I saw that the
connection is established but after few seconds the modem hangs. The
last message in plog is:
LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests 
I tried all three type of conections PAP, CHAT, and CHAP but the
result is the same.
My system is a Progeny with:
ppp 2.4.0f
pppconfig 2.0.5
kernel 2.2.19 (custom but I tried also with standard 2.2.18)
Can you give me a clue?

Thanks,
Dan

Re: machine version and platform?

[Cliff Sarginson]

On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 01:26:38PM +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote:
> Is there a command that will show my machine, kernel and (possibly)
> debian version?
> 
> I recall using such a command but cannot, much to my embarassment,
> remember it!
> 
> Thanks for any help.
> 
> Rory
> uname -a
Cliff

Re: cyrus packet version

[Colin Watson]

On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 02:32:42PM +0200, Piotr Esden-Tempski wrote:
> I have a little question but very importaint for me. Why is the version
> of the cyrus in debian packets so terrybly old? It is 1.5.19 there is
> allready 2.0.16 out. Can somebody tell me why it is so and if there will
> be a newer version and when.

Since there's a bug filed, I suggest you mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
see if another voice will remind the maintainer.

Bear in mind that the early 2.0 releases of cyrus weren't officially
stable, though.

-- 
Colin Watson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: What VPN is recommended?

[James L. Morton]

Hey,

On Mon, 2001-09-03 at 00:47, Rino Mardo wrote:
> hi.  i have a working knowledge of vpn and i would just like: 
> a)  confirmation with the list regarding my knowledge of how it works

You're basically correct in your assumptions:)  I'd be willing to bet
there aren't many people out there who could tell you exactly how IPSEC
works, but I can tell you the basics at least;)  When you're using
IPSEC, all traffic destined for a particular network is encrypted and
tunnelled through a single TCP port (ESP).  Any number of authentication
and encryption methods can be used, but most use 3DES and IKE or
Pre-shared keys.  You can filter traffic on that port as you normally
would.

> b)  what vpn solution or approach would you recommend

We've been using FreeS/WAN successfully at work for six months now.
Management could be a little bit easier, but that can be remedied with
scripts (If I ever get around to it:).  As for actual performance
though, I definitely can't complain.  I'm not sure about Potato, but
Woody has both the FreeS/WAN kernel modules and userland utils
available.

You can find more info here:
http://jixen.tripod.com/
and here:
http://www.freeswan.org


> you see in my previous job they've installed cisco's vpn client on one of
> the laptops and a vpn feature in the pix firewall.  according to what
> they've told me anywhere in the world this laptop user can access our
> internal servers just by logging in to a local isp and using this vpn
> client.  plus the connection would be secure.  

The connection is almost definitely secure, but the problem we struggle
with at work is whether or not the client machine is secure.  We're very
reluctant (Indeed, we haven't) offered software-based VPN's to any of
our employees or clients.  It seems to us that the only comfortably
secure solution is to give the client a hardware-based firewall/vpn
appliance.  We're looking at some of the sweet embedded Linux devices
now, but up until this point we've been giving out low-end workstations
to our employees that act as a firewall/gateway/vpn.

now, am i right in saying
> that i can also apply this with lotus notes clients who wants to sync their
> databases and check their emails with the internal servers?  can vpn be done
> using dial-up?  what about dynamic ip addresses on the vpn server will it be
> ok?

Yep, it should work out for any application.  Your clients sitting on a
VPN connection are, for all intents and purposes, on your LAN.  There
are subtle differences (Such as their IP's being external,
Internet-routable, and they miss out of broadcast messages) but for the
most part you can think of them as being on a really-slow segment of
your network:)  A VPN should be perfectly suited to support Notes-type
applications.  We've run into problems running NFS over a VPN, but other
than that everything has worked out just fine.
 
> having said that what vpn solution is recommended for lotus notes clients?

Welp, I haven't actually done it or read about it, but like I said, I
suspect it would work out with little or no problems.

> thank you.

No problem:))

- James Morton
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Re: server on a 486/100 with 408mb drive

[Jonathan D. Proulx]

On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 04:50:55PM +1000, Sam Varghese wrote:
:On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 11:24:30PM -0700, Osamu Aoki wrote:

:i've already got a server running potato with 2.2.17. I figured
:woody was stable enough to be used on a server by now.

You can still get bit hard by a stray typo, but I've been running
woody/sid on my home server for some time, so shouldn't talk :)

:just a question of been there, done that, with potato. thought
:i could get a shot at configuring iptables, that's why i
:thought of 2.4.

you can get kernel 2.4 support in potato (I use this on production
workstations), but adding this to /etc/apt/sources.list:

#kernel 2.4 stuff
deb http://people.debian.org/~bunk/debian potato main
deb-src http://people.debian.org/~bunk/debian potato main

-Jon

Re: machine version and platform?

[Robert Waldner]

On Mon, 03 Sep 2001 13:26:38 BST, Rory Campbell-Lange writes:
>Is there a command that will show my machine, kernel and (possibly)
>debian version?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a
Linux shlurptopf 2.2.19 #9 Wed Apr 18 13:20:48 CEST 2001 i686 unknown
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/debian_version
2.2

hth+cheers,
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Re: machine version and platform?

[Miguel Griffa]

uname ?

On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 01:26:38PM +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote:
> Is there a command that will show my machine, kernel and (possibly)
> debian version?
> 
> I recall using such a command but cannot, much to my embarassment,
> remember it!
> 
> Thanks for any help.
> 
> Rory
> 
> 
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Re: Problems with APM after recompiling of kernel.

[Preben Randhol]

Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 03/09/2001 (10:40) :
> On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 12:06:58PM -0400, Brian Nelson wrote:
> > Interestingly, I have a similar problem on my laptop.  The 2.4.9
> > kernel broke apm (/proc/apm didn't exist) but it appeared to load
> > properly on bootup.  2.4.8 still works fine though.
> 
> I can not see /proc/apm even in my stock 2.4.8-686-smp (from kernel-image).
> 
> Does the use of intrd affects power-off feature of apm bios?
> 
> I have append="apm=on apm=power-off" set in lilo.conf

I have now added  apm=power-off to my lilo and now it works again. I
have /dev/apm

Thanks all for the help.

Preben Randhol
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Re: cyrus packet version

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Mon, 03 Sep 2001, Piotr Esden-Tempski wrote:
> I have a little question but very importaint for me. Why is the version
> of the cyrus in debian packets so terrybly old? It is 1.5.19 there is

Because the cyrus 1.5 maintainer did not have enough spare time to package
2.0.x, AFAIK.

> allready 2.0.16 out. Can somebody tell me why it is so and if there will
> be a newer version and when.

I am packaging 2.0.16, but it wil take at least one month. Cyrus is not a
trivial package, and I am swamped with work for the next 15 days.

-- 
  "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique Holschuh

Re: machine version and platform?

[Colin Watson]

On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 01:26:38PM +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote:
> Is there a command that will show my machine,

  cat /proc/cpuinfo

... and other files in /proc, depending on what you want; also see the
following:

> kernel

  uname -a

> and (possibly) debian version?

  cat /etc/debian_version

Cheers,

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