Sound Editing Package

2001-10-09 Thread Stephen J. Thompson
Hello all,

Can anyone suggest a GOOD sound editing package for linux? I need to be able 
to trim sound files and save them as wav's.

Thnaks all.

Stephen.



Taking an image from a joliet+rock ridge cd.

2001-10-09 Thread list1
I originally thought that I could use dd to take an image of anything.
I'm easily making joliet+rock ridge cds with cdrecord. 
Now, afterwards I'm only able to view those joliet+rock ridge cds on windows 
machines and dd is unable to take images of those cds.

I have joliet compiled into kernel. Why can't I even mount those cds ?



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problem installing dhelp

2001-10-09 Thread John Patton
When trying to install dhelp, I get the following weird message:

dhelp_parse: can't open /var/lib/dhelp/titles

Even if I purge dhelp and then reinstall (so that /var/lib/dhelp is
deleted) it still happens. Yes, I'm running as root; no, the immutable
bit is not set; and no, I'm not currently running any sort of advanced
security software like LIDS. Anybody have ANY idea why this could
be happening? I'm at a loss. Any insight on this would be greatly
appreciated, as I really like the services dhelp provides.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: ppp problem

2001-10-09 Thread Guilherme Neuman
Thanx Frank and Timeboy
but when I installed kernel 2.4 I did a huge upgrade with it... a friend (not 
so new to linux) helped me
so how do I know if I'm running potato or woody?
It says "Debian GNU/Linux testing/unstable ..." so I assume I'm running woody
How do I know if I have the proper packages installed?
thanx
Guiu



Re: X stopped working

2001-10-09 Thread Dmitriy
On Tue, Oct 09, 2001 at 05:57:42PM -0400, Sean Kelleher wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> i'm experiencing some problems with X. i'm running sid, and using
> kde for my desktop environment. kdm handles logins. after doing an
> apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade + reboot, i can no longer log
> in via kdm. when i try to login, the X server just restarts and i'm
> presented with the kdm login screen again. i have also tried switching
> to xdm with the same results.
> 
> FYI my xfree86-common install is 4.1.0-7.
> 
> any help that can be given in resolving this problem is much
> appreciated.
If you are using unstable, read debian-devel.
It has been already discuissed:

There is a bug in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99xfree86-common_start in
4.1.0-7:

Change:

exec "$REALSTARTUP"

to:

exec $REALSTARTUP



Hope that helps.
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Re: ethernet card

2001-10-09 Thread Marcel Figuerola Estrada
My card is a ethernet PCI compatible card (Surecom EP-320X-V)

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Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 3:29 AM
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I am to configure a ethernet card. Which module shoud I choose in the list of 
modconf??

Thanky you very much


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ethernet card

2001-10-09 Thread MarceI Figuerola Estrada
I am to configure a ethernet card. Which module shoud I choose in the list of 
modconf??

Thanky you very much


Marcel



Re: KDE X as root

2001-10-09 Thread dman
On Tue, Oct 09, 2001 at 07:29:07PM -0400, Tom Allison wrote:
| I have kdm running on the 'testing' Debian build.
| 
| I can log in and out OK.
| But if I log in as root, it resets back to kdm.
| I didn't want this -- how do I fix it back so I can get to log into the 
| GUI as root?

Don't.  It is supposed to be that way.
Instead read 'man su' and 'man sudo'

-D



Segfaults while copying files on IDE

2001-10-09 Thread Fabien Piuzzi
Hi all,

I'm getting some wierd issue with my linux box,

I simply can't copy big files between fs without getting a segfault.

And I really don't know if it is an hardware or software bug.

I'm running Sid, with a 2.4.10 kernel, on a Abit KT7 with an Tbird 1Ghz,
there is two hard disk : 

hda: IBM-DTLA-305040, ATA DISK drive
hdb: IBM-DTLA-307015, ATA DISK drive

I highly suspect the second one to be the source of all my troubles (as it
has proven multiple time in the past to be unrealiable) but the system
won't recognize the first one at boot time if the second one is not there
(not a jumper mis-configuration, I checked).

here is for example the output of a strace cp (bigfile) (otherfs)

[*snip*]
write(4, "\235\206\24\17\334RL\313\245\242\330\331e\212\223\210\221"...,
4096) = 4096
read(3,  
+++ killed by SIGSEGV +++
[end]

I'll try to change hardware element one by one to see which element is
faulty, In the next few days, I'm going to buy a new hard disk and copy my
system on it (if I can copy it without getting segfaults...).

So, does anyone of you got any idea of what's going on or can help me to
figure it ?

Thanks in advance

 
Fabien Piuzzi
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Re: How to find out what service is running on a port

2001-10-09 Thread Richard Cobbe
Lo, on Tuesday, October 9, Sean Kelleher did write:

> Hi folks,
> 
> I've got errors that are continually popping up to STDERR about a
> packet being rejected by my firewall, bound for port 65535. this
> behaviour itself is normal -- my firewall should reject this packet --
> but i'd like to know what service this packet hopes to reach. i've
> checked the relevant files (AFAIK -- /etc/services, /etc/inetd.conf),
> but don't see anything that applies.
> 
> anyone know where i could look to find out which service this is? 

http://www.snort.org/ has a database of this sort of information,
searchable by port number.  (Bottom of the left column.)

For 65535, it says:

Port 65535 / tcp 
Keyword  RC1trojan 
Description  [trojan] RC1 trojan

for what that's worth to you.

IIRC, ports in the high end of the range are also used by Linux for IP
masquerading.  I seem to recall hearing about a hole in this system that
could be exploited, although I don't remember any details.  (I do know that
it was patched quite some time ago; 2.4 and recent 2.2 kernels aren't
vulnerable.)

Richard



German Umlaute with ssh

2001-10-09 Thread Jan Tammen
Hello,
I'm logging into my linux-server from a windows-client using PuTTY.
Everything works fine, except for the umlauts: They are not displayed
correctly in any application. Working directly at the server (i.e. on
the console), they work without problems!

from within PuTTY:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] env
[...]
LANG=C
LC_CTYPE=de_DE
TERM=xterm
[...]

Any hints? tia, Jan.
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Re: SSH2 + HostbasedAuthentication

2001-10-09 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 10:32:32PM -0700, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> Hi, you seems to know alot.  So I may be wrong but let me try...
> 
> On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 08:51:20PM +0200, Walter Hofmann wrote:
> > I cannot use HostbasedAuthentication with ssh. ssh just keeps on asking
> > for the password. Here is what I tried:
> > 
oops, hostbased...  Not keybased.

I remember that when installing ssh, it was blurbing about hostkey in
/etc/somewhere for hostkey dsa or something. This was not in ssh1 for
potato.  I need to check

m.
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Re: OpenSSH/SSH2 incompatibility

2001-10-09 Thread Osamu Aoki
I have not tried hostbased auth.  but i have been usung
$ ssh -1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

and works.  This force using ssh1 protocol.   You can create ssh2 
compliant keys.  I am in process too :-)

On Tue, Oct 09, 2001 at 04:09:48PM -0500, Ryan Sackenheim wrote:
> Yesterday when I upgraded Woody, I suddenly found myself unable to SSH
> to the various machines on the network with the proprietary SSH2
> servers.  Has there been a change in the ssh package that has an
> incompatibility to SSH2?  
> 
> I am able to log into those machines with my local account password,
> but I am unable to use my public keys.  I've tried creating them with
> rsa, and dsa, and I've tried to force SSH version 1, but to no avail.
> The permissions are correct on the keys in the .ssh directory.
> Everything was working until the last upgrade yesterday (10/08/01).
> 
> Here's some debugging output:
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Re: Mouse Freezes in XFree 4.1.0.1

2001-10-09 Thread FGL
On Tue, Oct 09, 2001 at 11:18:21PM +0200, valentin born wrote:
> > 
> > The problem is that after a minute or less, the cursor freezes. Sometimes
> > it
> > starts with just acting 'weird & jumpy' and then it freezes. Other times
> > it
> > just freezes at without any prior weirdness in movement.
> 
> unfortunatly i cannot really give you any advice, but i made similar
> experience with woody and the 
> trackball of mine - thought it was because of the ImPS/2 protocol (but the
> trackball should use the 
> same protocol, right?) - so maybe it's somewhere in the zaxis-setting or ...
> i dont know. - btw i 
> never had freezes, but _allways_ this "weirdness" of the cursor hopping
> arround, suddenly opening 
> windowns...

This is typically because of interference with gpm. Make sure that the
gpm protocol is imps2 also and use /dev/gpmdata as your X mouse device.

FGL



Re: Newbie compiling kernel...

2001-10-09 Thread ephemeron
On Tuesday 09 October 2001 03:56, Alexander Wallace wrote:
> Hello there! I need to compile scsi emulation for ide devices, but I
> don't know how to recompile the kernel... I checked the Faq but it's
> a little bit confusing to me Can someone give me a setp by step
> instruction on how to do this? like:
>
> 1 apt-get whatever
> 2 go to directory /usr...
> 3 Type whatever
> 4 copy whatever
> 5 reboot
>
> or something like that?
>
> Thanks! Sorry about the newbieness...

It's sensible to suppose that if you're a newbie you're using one of 
those "pre-packaged" kernels. With some notable exceptions, the 
pre-packaged kernels have everything you'll need (and more) to get your 
hardware working. You'll probably only need to enable scsi emulation.

You need to just add a line to your /etc/lilo.conf like:

append "hdd=ide-scsi"

The hdd varies with the actual drive designation of your CD writer (the 
most popular use of the scsi emulation stuff). Then you add the 
corresponding module to your /etc/modules file: a line for (surprise!)

ide-scsi



KDE X as root

2001-10-09 Thread Tom Allison

I have kdm running on the 'testing' Debian build.

I can log in and out OK.
But if I log in as root, it resets back to kdm.
I didn't want this -- how do I fix it back so I can get to log into the 
GUI as root?




Re: -dbg packages

2001-10-09 Thread dman
On Tue, Oct 09, 2001 at 05:12:40PM -0400, Ari Pollak wrote:
| here's a dumb question - how would I use the libgtk1.2-dbg (and, while
| I'm at it, libc6-dbg) packages to debug programs more thorougly? I've
| tried linking with -lgtk_g and -lgdk_g along with the regular libraries,
 ^^
I haven't used Debian's debug packages yet, but that doesn't sound
right to me.  The debug lib should be identical to the regular lib,
with the exception of not running 'strip' on it.  That is to say that
both should provide the same symbols, so ld is probably resulting in
giving you the regular libraries instead.  Try using just the debug
libs and not the "regular" stripped libs.

HTH,
-D



Re: PCMCIA - Please help

2001-10-09 Thread dman
On Tue, Oct 09, 2001 at 10:41:03PM +0200, Søren Neigaard wrote:
| Tuesday, October 09, 2001, 9:54:05 PM, dman wrote:
...
| d> | Is this good or bad?
| d> It is good, but not complete.  For example right now with this
| d> Inspiron 7500 (3Com PCMCIA NIC) I get :
| d> eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:50:DA:AC:3B:BD
| d>   inet addr:129.21.239.107  Bcast:129.21.239.127  
Mask:255.255.255.128
| d>   UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
| d>   RX packets:874 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
| d>   TX packets:833 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
| d>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 
| d>   RX bytes:106469 (103.9 Kb)  TX bytes:73303 (71.5 Kb)
| d>   Interrupt:11 Base address:0x3000 
| d> You will notice that I have an IP address associated with the
| d> interface in addition to the packet history information.
|
| I have the IP addresses too, I posted that right after this mail since
| I forgot to tell :)

If you have the IP addresses, then you are all set, right?  What
happens if you try to ping some other IP address?  If that fails try
traceroute instead and see where the packets get lost.

If you can ping an IP address, but not a host name it means you don't
have DNS set up.  See my previous post for data /etc/resolv.conf.

| d> | Please help me, I'm a newbie and I have no idea on how to fix this.
| d> Do you have anything in /etc/network/interfaces?  At the moment the
| d> only things I have that are not commented out are :
| 
| d> auto lo
| d> iface lo inet loopback
| 
| d> iface eth0 inet dhcp
...
| I only have "iface lo inet loopback" in my file, could that be my
| problem?
| 
| I don't want to use dhcp, should I still do it you way?

Sort of, instead of putting 'dhcp' there, you put
iface eth0 inet static
   address 192.168.0.6
   netmask 255.255.255.0
   gateway 192.168.0.1

but substitute the correct values for your machine.


Oh, yeah, I just remembered that in /etc/pcmcia/network.opts there may
be some configuration.  I'm not completely sure on this, but I think
that file is used instead of /etc/network/interfaces when the cardmgr
tries to automatically startup and shutdown services for you.  I keep
getting errors like "device not found" in my logs from cardmgr, but
manually running 'ifup' or 'ifdown' works fine for me.

HTH,
-D



Re: How to find out what service is running on a port

2001-10-09 Thread Stephen A. Witt
On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, Sean Kelleher wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I've got errors that are continually popping up to STDERR about a
> packet being rejected by my firewall, bound for port 65535. this
> behaviour itself is normal -- my firewall should reject this packet --
> but i'd like to know what service this packet hopes to reach. i've
> checked the relevant files (AFAIK -- /etc/services, /etc/inetd.conf),
> but don't see anything that applies.
>
> anyone know where i could look to find out which service this is?
>

Well, variations of the 'netstat' command will provide, among other
things, a list of the open sockets. 'netstat -p' shows the process PID and
name of the program with each open socket.





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How to find out what service is running on a port

2001-10-09 Thread Sean Kelleher
Hi folks,

I've got errors that are continually popping up to STDERR about a
packet being rejected by my firewall, bound for port 65535. this
behaviour itself is normal -- my firewall should reject this packet --
but i'd like to know what service this packet hopes to reach. i've
checked the relevant files (AFAIK -- /etc/services, /etc/inetd.conf),
but don't see anything that applies.

anyone know where i could look to find out which service this is? 

TIA,
Sean
-- 
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Re: Debian machine as Amanda tapehost, can't see itself

2001-10-09 Thread Stan Brown
On Tue Oct  9 15:28:54 2001 Bill Benedetto wrote...
>
>
>  Stan> I'm trying to set up a Debian machine (potato with 2.4.9
>  Stan> kernel) as an Amanada tapehost to replace a HP-UX
>  Stan> machine.
>  Stan> 
>  Stan> At the moent it's mostly working, except that it can't
>  Stan> see itself, as far as Amanda is concerned.
>  Stan> 
>  Stan> Sugestions?
>
>  Bill> Did you make sure that the host was listed in the
>  Bill> $HOME/.amandahosts file (probably best if you put both the FQDN
>  Bill> and the non-FQDN versions in the file).
>  Bill> 
>  Bill> We didn't need/use the .amandahosts file before we switched to
>  Bill> Debian (although I believe that is more a function of the version
>  Bill> of Amanda than the OS beneath the covers).
>
>  Stan> Yes the neweer versions do default to that type of
>  Stan> authentication. Yes it's setup OK. Heres the debug file,
>  Stan> and ideas?
>  Stan>
>  Stan> amcheck: debug 1 pid 543 ruid 1001 euid 0 start time Tue Oct  9 
> 13:41:54 2001
>  Stan> amcheck: dgram_bind: socket bound to 0.0.0.0.769
>  Stan> amcheck-clients: dgram_send_addr: sendto(170.85.109.24.10080) failed: 
> Invalid argument 
>  Stan> amcheck-clients: dgram_send_addr: sendto(170.85.109.24.10080) failed: 
> Invalid argument 
>  Stan> amcheck-clients: dgram_send_addr: sendto(170.85.109.24.10080) failed: 
> Invalid argument 
>  Stan> amcheck: pid 543 finish time Tue Oct  9 13:42:24 2001
>
>Nope.  No ideas
>
>How about some basics:
>
>I assume at this point that your backups work EXCEPT for the
>tapehost?

Except for 2 (of about 20 machines) that for some reason seem to be unable
to do reverse DNS on the new tapehost. I'm pretty certain this is a patch
level issue on those 2 machines.

>
>I also assume that your tapehost is set up correctly
>(/etc/services, for example) and that you have the appropriate
>debian packages loaded (amanda-client, amanda-common, &
>amanda-server - I think).

Yep.


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RE: Mouse Freezes in XFree 4.1.0.1

2001-10-09 Thread valentin born
> > Have either of you checked to make sure you don't have gpm running. This
> > is
> > a common symptom of X and gpm conflicting. Most people don't even need
> or
> > want gpm these days. dpkg --purge it if you do have it.
> > 
> you should be right! 
> i didnt mind that - how could i forget!
> but on my old computer X (3.3.6) wouldnt even start with gpm running?
> 
> thanx Justin, ill try that right away
> 
> cu
> 
> kamome
> 
> 
works!

mouse-wheel, too!

thank you Justin!

cu

kamome

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Re: Takin' the plunge...

2001-10-09 Thread Erik Steffl
Royce Bell wrote:
> 
> Okay, this is it.  I'm about to take the plunge into Linux, but my
> experience with dumb terminal-based Unix is over 20 years old.  In the
> interim, I've been on Windows; a sometimes happy, but always frustrating and
> infuriating marriage of convenience and productivity-enslavement.
> 
> Debian Linux was recommended to me by a friend, but (this is embarrassing to
> admit, as I feel like a newbie all over again) quite frankly, I'm
> confusingly overwhelmed at the different products now available.  Debian,
> RedHat, etc.  Everybody says theirs is the best, but they cannot all be
> correct.  I don't particularly want to go back to the command line, but I do
> appreciate the minimalist approach of Unix, especially from a security
> standpoint.
> 
> Any suggestions to ease the mind and grease the process?

  redhat, mandrake: easy to install, they try to make the system usable
by general public.

  suse: not sure what is good in their distro, they include (at least
used to include) some non-free software - e.g. X server...

  slackware: hands off approach, good defaults - it let's you install
the linux that looks similar to unix systems and doesn't bother you
anymore

  debian: easiest to maintain - it's just incredible, the install is not
extra nice but it's not very hard either. however once you have the
system installed it's a pleasure to maintain it! you have to experience
it yourself to believe it.

  as far as using linux all distros are basically the same, you can
install the same programs, same HW is supported etc...

  btw the command line interface did not change much, the shells are
more comfortable  but you should feel right at home... (no matter which
distro you choose)

erik



Re: 4 doubts on Kernel compilation (A dual boot Win-Lin Machine)

2001-10-09 Thread Erik Steffl
Steve Kowalik wrote:
> 
> At 10:05 am, Tuesday, October  9 2001, Stephen Gran mumbled:
> > p.s. - I'm told the debian way is much easier, but I've never used it,
> > so others can tell you more.
> >
> AHHA! The Debian Way!
> Basically, you can install a kernel-source .deb from apt, or download a
> tarball from kernel.org, it doesn't really matter.
> And then, you run 'cd /usr/src/linux (or wherever) and; make-kpkg 
> --revision=`hostname`.1 kernel-image'

  first copy your former .config to the new kernel directory and run
make oldconfig, it will only ask new question (usually not many of
them), if you don't have old .config file that you, of course, need to
do a real kernel configuration (see kernel docs).

  I also add epoch so that the kernel is not overriden by debian kernel:

  make-kpkg --revision 99:`hostname`.0 kernel_image

  if you have additional modules, e.g. alsa-source, those should be
unpacked into ../modules (relative to kernel) run (it uses the same
revision as kernel_image):

  make-kpkg modules_image

  you will end up with *.deb file in .., you can install those using
dpkg -i

erik



X stopped working

2001-10-09 Thread Sean Kelleher
Hi folks,

i'm experiencing some problems with X. i'm running sid, and using
kde for my desktop environment. kdm handles logins. after doing an
apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade + reboot, i can no longer log
in via kdm. when i try to login, the X server just restarts and i'm
presented with the kdm login screen again. i have also tried switching
to xdm with the same results.

FYI my xfree86-common install is 4.1.0-7.

any help that can be given in resolving this problem is much
appreciated.

TIA,
Sean
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Re: Boot Process

2001-10-09 Thread Kent West

Michael Grover wrote:


Can Some tell me if there is a link on the debian web site that gives
detailed information on the boot process, like when files get started
from
the init.d directory, etc etc

 mike...





In case no one has responded yet, here's one place to start:

http://www.linuxdoc.org/LDP/sag/x1616.html



RE: Mouse Freezes in XFree 4.1.0.1

2001-10-09 Thread valentin born
> Have either of you checked to make sure you don't have gpm running. This
> is
> a common symptom of X and gpm conflicting. Most people don't even need or
> want gpm these days. dpkg --purge it if you do have it.
> 
you should be right! 
i didnt mind that - how could i forget!
but on my old computer X (3.3.6) wouldnt even start with gpm running?

thanx Justin, ill try that right away

cu

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Re: Is gzip broken on woody ?

2001-10-09 Thread Richard Cobbe
Lo, on Tuesday, October 9, Jason Harris did write:

> ==
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ tar -xzvf
> tar: option requires an argument -- f
> Try `tar --help' for more information.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ tar -xzvf 
> mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-0.9.4-installer.tar.gz
> 
> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
> tar: Child returned status 1
> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gunzip mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-0.9.4-installer.tar.gz
> 
> gunzip: mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-0.9.4-installer.tar.gz: not in gzip format
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
> 

Try
file mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-0.9.4-installer.tar.gz
and see what it says.  My suspicion is that it's a normal tar file that
happens to have a .gz extension.

Did you happen to download this file in Netscape?  It tends to decompress
files on the fly without removing the .gz extension.

Richard



Re: Exim default build

2001-10-09 Thread Frank Preut
On Tue, Oct 09, 2001 at 12:48:03PM +0200, Timeboy wrote:
>   login:
> driver = plaintext
> public_name = LOGIN
> client_send = ": [EMAIL PROTECTED] : password"
>  
>  Timo
>  

have you (or anyone else) tried MD5 authentication with the default exim
install (i.e. installed from a .deb binary, not compiled yourself)?? gmx
supports that, i think.. and AFAIK it would have to be specified when
compiling exim.. just wondering..

frank.


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Re: Puzzling PPP Problem

2001-10-09 Thread Frank Preut
On Tue, Oct 09, 2001 at 11:18:35AM +0200, Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote:
> I have a problem that I have started getting recently with
> one of my ppp connections.
> 


have you tried to specify noccp in /etc/ppp/options ?? seems to be
problem here and maybe it works without.. just a thought..

frank.


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Re: Mysql-Php error

2001-10-09 Thread Andras BALI
On Tue, Oct 09, 2001 at 11:37:25AM -0400, Eileen Orbell wrote:

> Call to undefined function: mysql_connect() in
> /var/www/html/mainfile.php on line 42

Solution A:

 Edit /etc/php4/apache/php.ini and add the following line at the end
 of the file:

   extension = mysql.so

Solution B:

 If you don't want to enable PHP-MySQL at system level, you can
 load the MySQL extension runtime by inserting the following PHP
 command at the very beginning of the PHP file:

  dl("mysql.so");

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RE: Mouse Freezes in XFree 4.1.0.1

2001-10-09 Thread Justin Hahn
Have either of you checked to make sure you don't have gpm running. This is
a common symptom of X and gpm conflicting. Most people don't even need or
want gpm these days. dpkg --purge it if you do have it.


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> -Original Message-
> From: valentin born [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 5:18 PM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Mouse Freezes in XFree 4.1.0.1
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I am running Debian Unstable and I am having some problems.
> > 
> > The problem is that after a minute or less, the cursor 
> freezes. Sometimes
> > it
> > starts with just acting 'weird & jumpy' and then it 
> freezes. Other times
> > it
> > just freezes at without any prior weirdness in movement.
> > 
> > Every package on the system should be the newest available, 
> according to
> > apt-get.
> > 
> > Hope I can find help here, because I would really like to 
> make the switch
> > and start using Linux as my desktop OS and not just at the 
> server OS.
> > 
> > Blackbox is my Windowmanager, but the problem also occurs under
> > Windowmaker
> > (although it seems to happens much faster than under Blackbox).
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Troels
> > 
> > 
> Hi Troels,
> 
> unfortunatly i cannot really give you any advice, but i made similar
> experience with woody and the 
> trackball of mine - thought it was because of the ImPS/2 
> protocol (but the
> trackball should use the 
> same protocol, right?) - so maybe it's somewhere in the 
> zaxis-setting or ...
> i dont know. - btw i 
> never had freezes, but _allways_ this "weirdness" of the 
> cursor hopping
> arround, suddenly opening 
> windowns...
> my pseudo"advice" - i got out my old ttyS0! not too cool i 
> admit - but it
> works!
> 
> cu
> 
> kamome
> 
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Re: Mouse Freezes in XFree 4.1.0.1

2001-10-09 Thread valentin born
> Hi,
> 
> I am running Debian Unstable and I am having some problems.
> 
> The problem is that after a minute or less, the cursor freezes. Sometimes
> it
> starts with just acting 'weird & jumpy' and then it freezes. Other times
> it
> just freezes at without any prior weirdness in movement.
> 
> Every package on the system should be the newest available, according to
> apt-get.
> 
> Hope I can find help here, because I would really like to make the switch
> and start using Linux as my desktop OS and not just at the server OS.
> 
> Blackbox is my Windowmanager, but the problem also occurs under
> Windowmaker
> (although it seems to happens much faster than under Blackbox).
> 
> Regards,
> Troels
> 
> 
Hi Troels,

unfortunatly i cannot really give you any advice, but i made similar
experience with woody and the 
trackball of mine - thought it was because of the ImPS/2 protocol (but the
trackball should use the 
same protocol, right?) - so maybe it's somewhere in the zaxis-setting or ...
i dont know. - btw i 
never had freezes, but _allways_ this "weirdness" of the cursor hopping
arround, suddenly opening 
windowns...
my pseudo"advice" - i got out my old ttyS0! not too cool i admit - but it
works!

cu

kamome

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-dbg packages

2001-10-09 Thread Ari Pollak
here's a dumb question - how would I use the libgtk1.2-dbg (and, while
I'm at it, libc6-dbg) packages to debug programs more thorougly? I've
tried linking with -lgtk_g and -lgdk_g along with the regular libraries,
but that doesn't seem to make a difference.

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plip, no IRQ? - debian on my laptop

2001-10-09 Thread valentin born
Hey Yo Hoh, everybody!

after "modprobe plip" (on woody,2.4.9,with modules parport, parport_pc and
plip) i get the following:

  plip0: parport0 has no IRQ. using IRQ-less mode, which is fairly
inefficient! 
 plip0: parallel port at 0x378, not using IRQ.
 
but while booting i read something like: parport0 using IRQ7 (which would
fit nicely with 0x378, wouldnt it?)
 
BTW, i want to use plip to set my baby laptop up with debian (no CD only
4megs of ram (no bootdisk)  but  
the disk is huge - well, kind of (1GB)).
(or is there a way of  directly installing from my "big"
pc via plip onto my laptop?
  i tried this of course, but i cannot load the modules
before giving a root-partition (which is 
  supposed to be on the laptop...  also "alt-f2"ing to a
console i couldnt get plip to working)

so (on bigdebby, the "real" PC) "ifconfig plip0 bigdebby pointopoint
babylap"
- works (at least doesnt complain - no news is)
"ifconfig plip0" shows:

plip0 Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr FC:FC:7F:00:00:01
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  P-t-P:192.168.0.12  Mask:255.255.255.255
  UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:10
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
  Interrupt:255 Base address:0x378

2nd line: P-t-P "my.baby.laptop.computer"; the Mask: on my baby laptop i use
mask 255.255.255.0 (could 
 this turn out to cause problems? how do i change it on
debian (not having an /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 - file))
last line: Interrupt: 255 ,why that? why does it choose an IRQ? or is 255
not a "real" IRQ? how do i change the  
  devices IRQ?

now, i can "route add plip0 baby

well, many questions and i havent got a clue of what to do here - if you are
any wiser, _please_ let me know.

oh, yes: on the laptop i can use plip - i already have "monkeylinux" running
which intalls onto an existing 
DOS-FAT (you have to start it from dos using loadlin) but i dont get any
apps to work under X (yes i intend to 
use X - did work with "2diskX", but again no apps for me - i need a small
wordprocessor (i had abiword in 
mind) any suggestions on alternatives on that are appreciated, too)
if you know a fine non-X wordpro (like the good old "word" ;) ) please also
inform me on that.
that would solve all my prob easiest - i dont need X, but so far nobody was
able to tell me a non-X wordpro for 
linux :(

im counting on all of you out there
thank you very much 
cu

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Re: URGENT: IP packet tool

2001-10-09 Thread martin f krafft
* Casper Gielen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001.10.09 22:34:05+0200]:
> sendip:

great! thanks a lot for the prompt answer.

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Re: URGENT: IP packet tool

2001-10-09 Thread Casper Gielen
On Tue, Oct 09, 2001 at 09:55:16PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:

> sorry for SCREAMING in the subject, but i really need you help. anyone
> know of a tool, Debian or not, which can be used to create custom
> UDP/TCP/ICMP/IP/ARP (or a subset) of packets (i.e. control over every
> header field), and then send that packet? i need it for demonstration
> purposes...
> 
sendip:
Description: A commandline tool to allow sending arbitrary IP packets. 
SendIP has a large number of command line options to specify the
content of every header of a RIP, TCP, UDP, ICMP or raw IPv4 and IPv6
packet. It also allows any data to be added to the packet. Checksums
can be calculated automatically, but if you wish to send out wrong
checksums, that is supported too.


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Re: Raw CD File

2001-10-09 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include 
Mike Grover wrote on Tue Oct 09, 2001 um 03:03:12PM:
> Is the raw file I Downloaded for Woody a ISO cd image file?

Normally yes, unless you got if from a very strange source. To burn with
any burning program, iso mode (1 or 2), block size 2048.

Gruss/Regards,
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Mouse Freezes in XFree 4.1.0.1

2001-10-09 Thread Troels Leth Petersen
Hi,

I am running Debian Unstable and I am having some problems.

The problem is that after a minute or less, the cursor freezes. Sometimes it
starts with just acting 'weird & jumpy' and then it freezes. Other times it
just freezes at without any prior weirdness in movement.

Every package on the system should be the newest available, according to
apt-get.

Hope I can find help here, because I would really like to make the switch
and start using Linux as my desktop OS and not just at the server OS.

Blackbox is my Windowmanager, but the problem also occurs under Windowmaker
(although it seems to happens much faster than under Blackbox).

Regards,
Troels



Re: X missing DRI module?

2001-10-09 Thread Geoff Beaumont
On Tue, 9 Oct 2001 19:46:40 +0100
Geoff Beaumont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, 9 Oct 2001 12:42:38 -0400
> Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I'm running Woody here, and I do in fact have those files - looks like
> > it didn't install right.
> > Good luck,
> > Steve
> 
> Cheers  
> 
> Reinstall time then.

Reinstalling various X packages didn't fix it, but I found the problem. I
needed xlibmesa3 instead of mesag3 Mesa libraries - the former includes
chipset specific DRI modules the latter doesn't (I'm not sure if there're
any other differences between these packages - none that are noted in
their descriptions, anyway).

Direct rendering is now working perfectly.

Many thanks for helping me get to the bottom of this :c)
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Re: no shell, unable to cd to /home/*

2001-10-09 Thread pirmin2

Karsten M. Self wrote:

Thanks for your reply, Karsten.


on Sun, Oct 07, 2001 at 10:56:51AM +0200, Andreas von Heydwolff ([EMAIL 
PROTECTED]) wrote:


Hello -
I upgraded potato to Debian testing (2.4.9, XFree 4.1.0-6, old /dev 
structure) a few days ago, everything worked fine. Now I can no longer log in 
as a user but only as root. 

Login from the console gives me "Unable to cd to /home/avh", (avh is my user 
id) - it's the same with another user account. Therefore X aborts when I 
enter a user login in kdm.


su  from a console as root gives me a message "No shell".



What's in /etc/passwd for the user?


avh:x:1000:1000:avh:/home/avh:/bin/bash
mcr:x:1002:0:mcr:/home/mcr:/bin/bash




The root account works flawlessly. Home directories are there, can be 
browsed, permissions are set correctly.




Run and post output:

   $ mount
   $ ls -ld /home
   $ ls -las /home


mount

/dev/hda2 on / type ext2 (rw,errors=remount-ro,errors=remount-ro)
proc on /proc type proc (rw)
/dev/hda1 on /mnt/c type vfat (rw,uid=1000)
/dev/hda5 on /mnt/e type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
/dev/hda6 on /mnt/f type vfat (rw,uid=1000,1001)
/dev/hda7 on /mnt/g type vfat (rw,uid=1000,gid=1000)
/dev/hda9 on /mnt/ul_opt type ext2 (rw)
/dev/hda10 on /mnt/home type ext2 (rw)
/dev/hda11 on /mnt/burn type ext2 (rw)
/dev/hda12 on /mnt/vm type ext2 (rw)
/dev/hdd5 on /mnt/j type vfat (rw,uid=1000,1001)
/dev/hdd6 on /mnt/k type vfat (rw,uid=1000,1001)


I deleted users and recreated them, to no avail. Deleted passwords,
recreated them - likewise. Reinstalled packages login, file-utils,
shell-utils, the X combo, nothing.



How are you creating and deleting users?  The 'adduser' command is
recommended.

Kuser, just tried creating user "test" with adduser: dir /home/test/ was 
created, same problem again.






Two further details are puzzeling me: earlier today I accidentally
renamed /etc/X11 to /etc/sane then using a Norton Commander like file
manager because I entered "sane" into a box called up with F2 (rename)
instead of F3 (search). 



'mc', perhaps?

Did you change any other files?


emelfm which I like a lot
didn't change other files I believe.





But I realized this later when I could not start X andy more, changed
the name back and X worked again. I guess this is not related. - Or
have I been cracked through my wonderful cable modem despite running
an ipchains firewall? When I recreated another user to my surprise
when I checked the new home directories' permissions I saw that
"telnetd" was the owner, "users" the group. But maybe I just was a bit
quick with a graphical pulldown menu in the user damin program.



Not familiar with damin.

Peace.


oops - damin should read admin = Kuser

Best,
Andreas





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URGENT: IP packet tool

2001-10-09 Thread martin f krafft
dudes,
sorry for SCREAMING in the subject, but i really need you help. anyone
know of a tool, Debian or not, which can be used to create custom
UDP/TCP/ICMP/IP/ARP (or a subset) of packets (i.e. control over every
header field), and then send that packet? i need it for demonstration
purposes...

thanks,

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Re: watchdog

2001-10-09 Thread Rogério Brito
On Oct 09 2001, rogério wrote:
> isto só tem ocorrido porqeu ao fazer uma atualização para o kernel
> 2.4.9-k6 do kernel.2.2.18 não consegui que o módulo ne2k-pci seja
> carregado pelo kernel o único que eu consegui foi o tulip

You can't just load the tulip module and expect it to work if
that's not the correct module or just because it "loads". You
have to load the right module. Are you indeed sure that
ne2k-pci is the right one?

Which module were you using when you used kernel 2.2.18? Was
that the ne2k-pci? If yes, then it should work with the new
kernel also, provided that you update your modutils (you'll
have to use new modutils to use a kernel from the 2.4 series).


[]s, Roger...

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Raw CD File

2001-10-09 Thread Mike Grover
Is the raw file I Downloaded for Woody a ISO cd image file?

 mike

Re: PCMCIA - Please help

2001-10-09 Thread dman
On Tue, Oct 09, 2001 at 06:43:36PM +0200, Søren Neigaard wrote:
| I have a Dell Inspiron 7500 with a Xircom CardBus Ethernet 100 + Modem
| 56 (Ethernet Interface).
| 
| I can't get my networt up and running. I have at no time specified
| that Debian should use the xirc2ps driver, and I don't know where I do
| this.
| 
| If I run "/usr/sbin/psnetconfig", it asks me to specify "frame type",
| and I don't know what that is.

I don't know of this program.

| If I do a "ifconfig eth0", I get this:
| 
| eth0  Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:10:A4:B8:5C:61
|   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
|   RX packets:65 errors:1 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
|   TX packets:50 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
|   Collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
|   Interrop:11 Base address:0x400
| 
| Is this good or bad?

It is good, but not complete.  For example right now with this
Inspiron 7500 (3Com PCMCIA NIC) I get :

eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:50:DA:AC:3B:BD  
  inet addr:129.21.239.107  Bcast:129.21.239.127  Mask:255.255.255.128
  UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:874 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:833 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 
  RX bytes:106469 (103.9 Kb)  TX bytes:73303 (71.5 Kb)
  Interrupt:11 Base address:0x3000 


You will notice that I have an IP address associated with the
interface in addition to the packet history information.

| Please help me, I'm a newbie and I have no idea on how to fix this.

Do you have anything in /etc/network/interfaces?  At the moment the
only things I have that are not commented out are :

auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

iface eth0 inet dhcp

That tells the 'ifup' command that I want to use DHCP to obtain an IP
address.  I must also run 'ifup eth0' as root after booting.  Don't
put "auto eth0" in the file -- the pcmcia stuff is started after the
network stuff so the auto will hang your system (until you press ^C or
probably until it times out).

Once you get that in place you will need to set up DNS.  I think
dhcpcd, etc, should set /etc/resolv.conf automatically but it doesn't
seem to do it for me.  I have /etc/resolv.conf looking like :

# Work.
#domain 
#nameserver 24.92.226.13
#nameserver 24.92.226.174

# Home.  Should change it to work with my machine as gateway.
#domain frontiernet.net
#nameserver 64.214.143.10
#nameserver 64.212.209.134

# School.
#domain rit.edu
domain se.rit.edu
nameserver 129.21.3.17
nameserver 129.21.4.18


Since I'm at school right now I have only the last section
uncommented.  When I switch locations I simply move the #'s around.

HTH,
-D



Re: Takin' the plunge...

2001-10-09 Thread martin f krafft
* P Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001.10.09 16:05:56+0100]:
> In my case, I used a few distros, found that I was nowhere near the
> level of expertise where any distro would be a limitation and chose
> Debian because I like the idea of a volunteer community with its
> free software commitment and its constitution.  I hope you like it
> too.

also, i like using Linux, and not some sort of imposed sickness of GUI
warfare imposed on you by SuSE or RedHat. Debian has standards, the
others don't. If not Debian, the only two other distros IMHO which are
worth considering are Mandrake (based on RedHat but significantly
better), and Slackware. The latter and Debian are probably the best
ones out there, but I found support for Debian to be vastly better.

i'd say: stick with it: Debian. we won't let you down!

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Atlanta Linux InstallFest

2001-10-09 Thread Harold A. Bieber
Hi. I am a member of the Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts, I am coordinating
our installfest which will be on October 20th at the Emory University
School of Law. I am trying to find out if we can get a few things
from Debian to give away as door prizes, also to see if we can get a
copy of the basic Debian Linux product to make available to install
for customers. If there is a sales or technical rep in the Atlanta
area that would like to come to the InstallFest and lend a hand or
show some of the great features of your product, please have them
call me at the number below.

Thank You

Harold Bieber
Computer Support Coordinator
Emory University School of Law
Atlanta, GA 30322
404-727-7193
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Re: mutt and gpg in woody

2001-10-09 Thread martin f krafft
both, absolute paths for pgpewrap and the --comment issue exist as
bugreports, so expect fixes sooner or later. for now, yes, just remove
all --comment '' from gpg.rc and change pgpewrap to
/usr/lib/mutt/pgpewrap

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Re: Debian GNU/Linux as email & DNS server

2001-10-09 Thread martin f krafft
* Davi Leal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001.10.09 10:39:16+0200]:
> I am going to use a debian box as email and DNS server. The goal is duplicate
> the functionality of a host which is using sendmail, xinetd (pop3) & bind. I
> have thought to use:

which version of bind? v9.x is only in woody...
which pop3d?
which sendmail?

> Note: I have choosen debian as default option due to its 'apt-get' utility. It
> is easy install the automatic system of fixing security bug using the proper
> debian server, althought debian does not offer a Journaling FS or a
> installation over software RAID.

not yet. because no journaling FS is ready for production yet. and
software RAID is a kernel thing, not Debian... (IIANM)

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OpenSSH/SSH2 incompatibility

2001-10-09 Thread Ryan Sackenheim
Yesterday when I upgraded Woody, I suddenly found myself unable to SSH
to the various machines on the network with the proprietary SSH2
servers.  Has there been a change in the ssh package that has an
incompatibility to SSH2?  

I am able to log into those machines with my local account password,
but I am unable to use my public keys.  I've tried creating them with
rsa, and dsa, and I've tried to force SSH version 1, but to no avail.
The permissions are correct on the keys in the .ssh directory.
Everything was working until the last upgrade yesterday (10/08/01).

Here's some debugging output:

 client 
debug2: mac_init: found hmac-md5
debug1: kex: server->client 3des-cbc hmac-md5 none
debug2: mac_init: found hmac-md5
debug1: kex: client->server 3des-cbc hmac-md5 none
debug1: dh_gen_key: priv key bits set: 185/384
debug1: bits set: 493/1024
debug1: sending SSH2_MSG_KEXDH_INIT
debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEXDH_REPLY
debug3: check_host_in_hostfile: filename /home/sackenheimr/.ssh/known_hosts2
debug3: check_host_in_hostfile: match line 4
debug3: check_host_in_hostfile: filename /home/sackenheimr/.ssh/known_hosts2
debug3: check_host_in_hostfile: match line 4
debug1: Host 'ewatch' is known and matches the DSA host key.
debug1: Found key in /home/sackenheimr/.ssh/known_hosts2:4
debug1: bits set: 525/1024
debug1: len 55 datafellows 0
debug1: ssh_dss_verify: signature correct
debug1: kex_derive_keys
debug1: newkeys: mode 1
debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent
debug1: waiting for SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS
debug1: newkeys: mode 0
debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received
debug1: done: ssh_kex2.
debug1: send SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST
debug1: service_accept: ssh-userauth
debug1: got SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT
debug1: authentications that can continue: publickey,password
debug3: start over, passed a different list publickey,password
debug3: preferred publickey,password,keyboard-interactive
debug3: authmethod_lookup publickey
debug3: remaining preferred: password,keyboard-interactive
debug3: authmethod_is_enabled publickey
debug1: next auth method to try is publickey
debug1: try pubkey: /home/sackenheimr/.ssh/id_rsa
debug3: send_pubkey_test
debug2: we sent a publickey packet, wait for reply
debug1: authentications that can continue: publickey,password
debug1: try pubkey: /home/sackenheimr/.ssh/id_dsa
debug3: send_pubkey_test
debug2: we sent a publickey packet, wait for reply
debug1: authentications that can continue: publickey,password
debug2: we did not send a packet, disable method
debug3: authmethod_lookup password
debug3: remaining preferred: keyboard-interactive
debug3: authmethod_is_enabled password
debug1: next auth method to try is password
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: 


--- server ---
sshd[4465]: connection from "192.168.1.86"
debug: Sshd2/sshd2.c:579/new_connection_callback: new_connection_callback
debug: Sshd2/sshd2.c:732/new_connection_callback: Wrapping stream with 
ssh_server_wrap...
debug: ssh_server_wrap: creating transport protocol
debug: 
SshAuthMethodServer/sshauthmethods.c:113/ssh_server_authentication_initialize: 
Added "publickey" to usable methods.
debug: 
SshAuthMethodServer/sshauthmethods.c:113/ssh_server_authentication_initialize: 
Added "password" to usable methods.
debug: ssh_server_wrap: creating userauth protocol
debug: Ssh2Common/sshcommon.c:502/ssh_common_wrap: local ip = 192.168.1.19, 
local port = 22
debug: Ssh2Common/sshcommon.c:504/ssh_common_wrap: remote ip = 192.168.1.86, 
remote port = 1905
debug: Ssh2Common/sshcommon.c:390/ssh_common_finalize: DNS lookup failed. Using 
host-IP-number ("192.168.1.86") as hostname.
sshd[4465]: DNS lookup failed for "192.168.1.86".
debug: SshConnection/sshconn.c:1866/ssh_conn_wrap: Wrapping...
debug: Sshd2/sshd2.c:743/new_connection_callback: done.
debug: new_connection_callback returning
debug: Ssh2Transport/trcommon.c:599/ssh_tr_input_version: Remote version: 
SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_2.9p2
debug: Ssh2Transport/trcommon.c:789/ssh_tr_input_version: Remote version has 
rekey incompatibility bug.
debug: Ssh2Transport/trcommon.c:1120/ssh_tr_negotiate: c_to_s: cipher 3des-cbc, 
mac hmac-md5, compression none
debug: Ssh2Transport/trcommon.c:1123/ssh_tr_negotiate: s_to_c: cipher 3des-cbc, 
mac hmac-md5, compression none
debug: Sshd2/sshd2.c:349/auth_policy_proc: user 'sackenheimr' service 
'ssh-connection' client_ip '192.168.1.86' client_port '1905' completed ''
debug: Sshd2/sshd2.c:476/auth_policy_proc: output: publickey,password



Any ideas?

Thanks,

-Ryan



Re: Can I convert an ext2 fs to Resierfs?

2001-10-09 Thread Alan Shutko
P Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> But is there any need to check the fs from time to time or can I
> assume that my little box now has the type of resilience that users of
> BeOS used rave about?

The manpage says this about "-c":

  You  should  strongly  consider the consequences of
  disabling mount-count-dependent checking  entirely.
  Bad  disk  drives,  cables, memory, and kernel bugs
  could all corrupt a filesystem without marking  the
  filesystem  dirty  or  in  error.  If you are using
  journaling on your filesystem, your filesystem will
  never  be  marked dirty, so it will not normally be
  checked.  A filesystem error detected by the kernel
  will still force an fsck on the next reboot, but it
  may already be too late to  prevent  data  loss  at
  that point.

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Re: Debian machine as Amanda tapehost, can't see itself

2001-10-09 Thread Bill Benedetto

  Stan> I'm trying to set up a Debian machine (potato with 2.4.9
  Stan> kernel) as an Amanada tapehost to replace a HP-UX
  Stan> machine.
  Stan> 
  Stan> At the moent it's mostly working, except that it can't
  Stan> see itself, as far as Amanda is concerned.
  Stan> 
  Stan> Sugestions?

  Bill> Did you make sure that the host was listed in the
  Bill> $HOME/.amandahosts file (probably best if you put both the FQDN
  Bill> and the non-FQDN versions in the file).
  Bill> 
  Bill> We didn't need/use the .amandahosts file before we switched to
  Bill> Debian (although I believe that is more a function of the version
  Bill> of Amanda than the OS beneath the covers).

  Stan> Yes the neweer versions do default to that type of
  Stan> authentication. Yes it's setup OK. Heres the debug file,
  Stan> and ideas?
  Stan>
  Stan> amcheck: debug 1 pid 543 ruid 1001 euid 0 start time Tue Oct  9 
13:41:54 2001
  Stan> amcheck: dgram_bind: socket bound to 0.0.0.0.769
  Stan> amcheck-clients: dgram_send_addr: sendto(170.85.109.24.10080) failed: 
Invalid argument 
  Stan> amcheck-clients: dgram_send_addr: sendto(170.85.109.24.10080) failed: 
Invalid argument 
  Stan> amcheck-clients: dgram_send_addr: sendto(170.85.109.24.10080) failed: 
Invalid argument 
  Stan> amcheck: pid 543 finish time Tue Oct  9 13:42:24 2001

Nope.  No ideas

How about some basics:

I assume at this point that your backups work EXCEPT for the
tapehost?

I also assume that your tapehost is set up correctly
(/etc/services, for example) and that you have the appropriate
debian packages loaded (amanda-client, amanda-common, &
amanda-server - I think).

Just some random thoughts.  Maybe they will spark something on
your part.

HTH,

- Bill
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Re: Can I convert an ext2 fs to Resierfs?

2001-10-09 Thread P Kirk
On Tue, Oct 09, 2001 at 01:08:26PM -0400, Hall Stevenson wrote:
>> Its interesting that people don't really seem to think
>> much of ext3 but in my experience it is superb.
>
>I've been using it for about 3 months or so and have no
>complaints. The most appealing thing for me was the *simple*
>conversion to it -- no reformat needed.
>
tune2fs -i 0 -c 0 /dev/hdxx

Once you make the move to ext3 running the above command means that
the machine just boots without any nonsense about clean or not clean
umounts.

But is there any need to check the fs from time to time or can I
assume that my little box now has the type of resilience that users of
BeOS used rave about?

Patrick



Re: Can I convert an ext2 fs to Resierfs?

2001-10-09 Thread Stig Brautaset
* Hall Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake thus:
> > Its interesting that people don't really seem to think
> > much of ext3 but in my experience it is superb.
> 
> I've been using it for about 3 months or so and have no
> complaints. The most appealing thing for me was the *simple*
> conversion to it -- no reformat needed.
> 
> > I use a headless box with very old components.  If I
> > need to reboot and can't ssh in, just pulling the plug
> > works nicely...never any need to worry.
> 
> I had to do something... My wife's PC is in the basement and
> if she's home with the kid, she doesn't like being down there
> for long 'cause there's nothing for our boy to do. So, she
> uses my PC upstairs. She's much more familiar with Windows, so
> she *resets* my box to boot Windows.

I feel your pain. We are four students here, and we have a head-/
keyboardless machine acting as a "gateway" to internet through a dialup
line. It is running potato, and has ext2. One of the girls unplugged
the machine to iron her top...

Regards,
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Starting X early

2001-10-09 Thread Casper Gielen
Hello,
I'm looking for a way to start X (kdm to be exact) before my system is
done booting. On a stock debian system KDM is started at the end of
runlevel 2, S99kdm . However it takes a few seconds before X is started.
My idea was to start kdm a bit earlier so X would start parallel with
the last few items of the runlevel, instead of when it's all done
(saving me some time waiting). So I changed S99kdm into S20kdm.
Now X seems to wait until the rest of the system is done booting before
actually starting, which leaves me staring at a black screen.
I can't find why X is waiting (I assume it's X itself that does the
waiting as my screen flickers and changes to black) or how to change it.
I know it's not a very good idea as I might miss some bootmessages, but
I can handle that.
Any ideas how to start X without waiting until the system is completly
done booting?
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Can rlogin to my Debian box from remote machine, but not from itslef!

2001-10-09 Thread Stan Brown
New Debina install )(potato + 2.4.9 kernel). I can rlogin to it from
FreeBSD machines on the network, but not from itself. I get the error
message "Trying xx.xx.xx.xx (correct address) followed by debina.xxx.com:
Invalid argument.

I do have the machine name, in both short form and FQDN in
/etc/hosts.rquiv.

What can I do to fix this?

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Re: Is gzip broken on woody ?

2001-10-09 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker


On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, Jason Harris wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ tar -xzvf
> tar: option requires an argument -- f
> Try `tar --help' for more information.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ tar -xzvf 
> mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-0.9.4-installer.tar.gz
>
> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
> tar: Child returned status 1
> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gunzip mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-0.9.4-installer.tar.gz

Read the error messages.  The file is not in gzip format.  It's just named
.gz.  Try just tar xvf.

-jwb



Is gzip broken on woody ?

2001-10-09 Thread Jason Harris
This is my first Woody install - please forgive me if I cannot see the 
obvious.  I can't seem to get a 2.4 kernel, 4.0 X or mozilla to work on 
my new woody install.  So, my plan was to start fixing/installing things 
by hand.   However, gzip and/or tar is not working either.Is woody 
really that bad or has something gone terribly wrong somewhere ?  It is 
very strange since there is no corruption on the filesystems, apache 
works, networking/ssh works.  Help ?  


==
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ tar -xzvf
tar: option requires an argument -- f
Try `tar --help' for more information.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ tar -xzvf mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-0.9.4-installer.tar.gz

gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
tar: Child returned status 1
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gunzip mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-0.9.4-installer.tar.gz

gunzip: mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-0.9.4-installer.tar.gz: not in gzip format
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

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apt-get dist-upgrade dropping carrier

2001-10-09 Thread Hamma Scott
Hi,

I'm trying to upgrade from v2.2r17 to woody and have
been able to apt-get update. When I do an apt-get
dist-upgrade, my ISP drops carrier.

Is it possible to apt-get dselect-upgrade after my
update to install Woody in pieces? And if that's
possible, is there a set order that should be
followed?

Thank you for your time on this matter.

Scott Hamma

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Re: X missing DRI module?

2001-10-09 Thread Geoff Beaumont
On Tue, 9 Oct 2001 12:42:38 -0400
Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm running Woody here, and I do in fact have those files - looks like
> it didn't install right.
> Good luck,
> Steve

Cheers  

Reinstall time then.

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Re: setting up network

2001-10-09 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, Oct 09, 2001 at 10:49:35AM -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote:
> * Antti Tolamo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011008 16:37]:
> > 
> > I don't think you need more than network(in this case 192.168.0.0)
> > and define gateway to DSL router. I'm not sure what 'auto eth0' does,
> > I atleast don't have it with my DSL connection.
> 
> auto eth0 specifies that eth0 should be brought up automatically at
> system boot. This is done by the call to 'ifup -a' in
> /etc/init.d/networking.

Note however that "auto eth0" is only valid syntax in
/etc/network/interfaces in testing and later ... in potato, it is not
valid.  This jumped up and bit me the other day as I helped a friend
set up a potato-based firewall.

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Re: Debian machine as Amanda tapehost, can't see itself

2001-10-09 Thread Stan Brown
On Tue Oct  9 11:18:32 2001 Bill Benedetto wrote...
>
 Stan Brown writes:
>
>  Stan> I'm trying to set up a Debian machine (potato with 2.4.9
>  Stan> kernel) as an Amanada tapehost to replace a HP-UX
>  Stan> machine.
>  Stan>
>  Stan> At the moent it's mostly working, except that it can't
>  Stan> see itself, as far as Amanda is concerned.
>  Stan>
>  Stan> Sugestions?
>
>Did you make sure that the host was listed in the
>$HOME/.amandahosts file (probably best if you put both the FQDN
>and the non-FQDN versions in the file).
>
>We didn't need/use the .amandahosts file before we switched to
>Debian (although I believe that is more a function of the version
>of Amanda than the OS beneath the covers).
>

Yes the neweer versions do default to that type of authentication. Yes it's
setup OK. Heres the debug file, and ideas?


amcheck: debug 1 pid 543 ruid 1001 euid 0 start time Tue Oct  9 13:41:54 2001
amcheck: dgram_bind: socket bound to 0.0.0.0.769
amcheck-clients: dgram_send_addr: sendto(170.85.109.24.10080) failed: Invalid 
argument 
amcheck-clients: dgram_send_addr: sendto(170.85.109.24.10080) failed: Invalid 
argument 
amcheck-clients: dgram_send_addr: sendto(170.85.109.24.10080) failed: Invalid 
argument 
amcheck: pid 543 finish time Tue Oct  9 13:42:24 2001

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Re: Read a xfs partition from windows.

2001-10-09 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include 
bkw wrote on Tue Oct 09, 2001 um 05:36:35PM:

> Are there any software to windows which can read more filesystems than
> vfat. I would be intrested if there was anything that 
> could read xfs ext2,3 and reiserfs. If not, will it be very difficult
> to write such program ?

For ext2/ext3 there are some programs:

 - Explore2, a userspace program in Explorer style
   http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/
 - fsdext2, filesystem driver for Windows-95 (afaik a bit buggy)
 - similar driver for Win-NT, see explore2fs homepage

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Re: Using Debian

2001-10-09 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Tue, Oct 09, 2001 at 11:06:40AM -0700, Justin Vu wrote:
> I down load the package f2c_19991025-1.diff to convert a Fortran77 file to C 
> but I don't know
> 
> how to use it. Please give me a direction. Thanks.

Judging from the filename, I'd say you've downloaded a patch, not a
package.  Under debian, the most straightforward way to install f2c
would be to log in as root and issue the command

apt-get update && apt-get install f2c

Once it's installed, use

man f2c

to read the online manual and find out how to use it.

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Using Debian

2001-10-09 Thread Justin Vu
Hello,
I down load the package f2c_19991025-1.diff to convert a Fortran77 file to C but I don't know
how to use it. Please give me a direction. Thanks.
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Re: drivers

2001-10-09 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Tom Allison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011008 19:11]:
> Hmm.. I tried upgrading some drivers (orinoco-0.8.tar.gz) by copying 
> them into the linux drivers tree (/usr/src/linux/drivers/net/wireless/...)
> but the new modules didn't get installed when I ran 'dpkg -i 
> ../kernel_image...'

did they get built? (i.e. do the .o files exist in the build tree?)

> What, if anything, did I do wrong?

maybe nothing wrong, just didn't do enough. Just dropping them in the
tree may not be enough for them to get included in the build process.
I may be wrong about this, but I'd guess that you'd have to set up some
Makefile target and/or config statements? You'd have to see what the
installation docs with the driver say.

good times,

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Re: setting up network

2001-10-09 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Antti Tolamo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011008 16:37]:
> 
> I don't think you need more than network(in this case 192.168.0.0)
> and define gateway to DSL router. I'm not sure what 'auto eth0' does,
> I atleast don't have it with my DSL connection.

auto eth0 specifies that eth0 should be brought up automatically at
system boot. This is done by the call to 'ifup -a' in
/etc/init.d/networking.

good times,

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Re: another question

2001-10-09 Thread Vineet Kumar
* MarceI Figuerola Estrada ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011008 12:02]:
> When I start linux I get a list of error messages which I can't view because 
> the screen scrolls so fast. Is there any way to read them?

The short answer is 'dmesg'. Check out 'man dmesg' for more info, or
just peek in /var/log/dmesg (i.e. 'less /var/log/dmesg'). They may not
be error messages, but simply diagnostic messages. One of the great
things about linux is that rather than show you a moving blue bar, it
actually tells you what it's doing.  Not every message indicates an
error, just a status.

Now onto some lecturing (list etiquette):

Please set your editor to wrap lines at 72 columns. If you need help,
just tell us which editor you're using.

When posting a new question, start a new thread rather than replying to
a previous post. This means you should tell your mailer to compose a new
message, rather than using its 'reply' function. Use 'reply' when you're
replying to something, and use 'new message' when you're starting a new
topic.

Always use an informative and appropriate subject line. This one should
have been "scrolling error messages" instead of "another quetsion.

good times,

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Re: another question

2001-10-09 Thread Vineet Kumar
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011008 19:56]:
> press cntrl+c to freeze it and cntrl+q to unfreeze it

that's ctrl+s to pause and ctrl+q to unpause. This is the same as using
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Webcam behind a debian ipmasq box

2001-10-09 Thread yatsu
I'm running into trouble trying to get my webcam to work (upload a stream of 
images to a website).  Sadly the cam is hooked up to a Win2k laptop. It's a 
creative webcam III plus.

Although it works fine when simply displaying video, when using it's software 
to upload images to my homepage (using ftp) i recieve the error message 
'illegal port range', despite being able to login with a normal ftp client.

Is there a workaround for this?

- yatsu



watchdog

2001-10-09 Thread rogério
o módulo do kernel2.4.9-k6 carregado no boot é o tulip e após um pequeno
tempo de uso aparece o seguinte informe:
METDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit time out

isto só tem ocorrido porqeu ao fazer uma atualização para o kernel
2.4.9-k6 do kernel.2.2.18 não consegui que o módulo ne2k-pci seja
carregado pelo kernel o único que eu consegui foi o tulip

grato
rooo



Re: Can I convert an ext2 fs to Resierfs?

2001-10-09 Thread Hall Stevenson
> Its interesting that people don't really seem to think
> much of ext3 but in my experience it is superb.

I've been using it for about 3 months or so and have no
complaints. The most appealing thing for me was the *simple*
conversion to it -- no reformat needed.

> I use a headless box with very old components.  If I
> need to reboot and can't ssh in, just pulling the plug
> works nicely...never any need to worry.

I had to do something... My wife's PC is in the basement and
if she's home with the kid, she doesn't like being down there
for long 'cause there's nothing for our boy to do. So, she
uses my PC upstairs. She's much more familiar with Windows, so
she *resets* my box to boot Windows.

Hall



PCMCIA - Please help - UPDATE

2001-10-09 Thread Søren Neigaard
I have a Dell Inspiron 7500 with a Xircom CardBus Ethernet 100 + Modem
56 (Ethernet Interface).

I can't get my networt up and running. I have at no time specified
that Debian should use the xirc2ps driver, and I don't know where I do
this.

If I run "/usr/sbin/psnetconfig", it asks me to specify "frame type",
and I don't know what that is.

If I do a "ifconfig eth0", I get this:

eth0  Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:10:A4:B8:5C:61
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
  RX packets:65 errors:1 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:50 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  Collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
  Interrop:11 Base address:0x400

Plus my IP, DNS and so on (forgot this the last time).

Is this good or bad?

If I do a "modprobe -l", I get a lot of this:
"/lib/modules/2.2.19pre17/pcmcia/*", including
"/lib/modules/2.2.19pre17/pcmcia/xirc2ps_cs.o".

That's good, right?

Please help me, I'm a newbie and I have no idea on how to fix this.

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Newbie needs help finding newer packages ...

2001-10-09 Thread Brice D Ruth
 I'm a newbie when it comes to debian - I've relegated myself to the 
likes of redhat and mandrake for the past 5 years :( ... I have an 
installation of debian 2.2 and it seems to be working all right.  My 
main problem is that I can't find updated packages to install ... using 
dselect, the 'potato' package for apache is 1.3.9!!  Where can I get 
more recent packages?


-Brice

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Re: Debian GNU/Linux as email & DNS server

2001-10-09 Thread P Kirk
On Tue, Oct 09, 2001 at 10:39:16AM +0200, Davi Leal wrote:
>
>Hi all,
> 
>I am going to use a debian box as email and DNS server. The goal is duplicate
>the functionality of a host which is using sendmail, xinetd (pop3) & bind. I
>have thought to use:
> 
>debian 2.2r3 (potato)
> 
>sendmail instead of exim, to facilitate the duplication of the existing
>host.
>xinetd (pop3)
> 
>bind
> 
>
Potato will be fine.  I have a slink box doing exactly that for 60
people.  Its a P100 with 32 MB RAM.  It has IMAP instead of pop.

You'll have no problems at all.

Patrick



PCMCIA - Please help

2001-10-09 Thread Søren Neigaard
I have a Dell Inspiron 7500 with a Xircom CardBus Ethernet 100 + Modem
56 (Ethernet Interface).

I can't get my networt up and running. I have at no time specified
that Debian should use the xirc2ps driver, and I don't know where I do
this.

If I run "/usr/sbin/psnetconfig", it asks me to specify "frame type",
and I don't know what that is.

If I do a "ifconfig eth0", I get this:

eth0  Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:10:A4:B8:5C:61
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
  RX packets:65 errors:1 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:50 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  Collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
  Interrop:11 Base address:0x400

Is this good or bad?

If I do a "modprobe -l", I get a lot of this:
"/lib/modules/2.2.19pre17/pcmcia/*", including
"/lib/modules/2.2.19pre17/pcmcia/xirc2ps_cs.o".

That's good, right?

Please help me, I'm a newbie and I have no idea on how to fix this.

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Re: X missing DRI module?

2001-10-09 Thread Stephen Gran
Thus spake Geoff Beaumont:
> At 18:08 08/10/2001 -0500, you wrote:
> >On Mon, 2001-10-08 at 18:02, Geoff Beaumont wrote:
> >> I'm having difficulties persuading Direct Rendering to work on my Woody
> >> machine (Matrox G450 graphics card, XFree86 4.1.0.1) - all the relevant
> >> packages appear to be there, kernel modules (kernel 2.4.9) and
> >> XF86Config-4 appears fine (got someone else with a working Matrox G400 to
> >> compare it with theirs).
> >>
> >> The one thing I've been able to find is this, from
> >> http://www.xfree86.org/4.1.0/DRI10.html#35
> >>
> >> The DRI 3D driver for the G200/G400 should be in
> >> /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/mga_dri.so. This will be automatically loaded
> >> by libGL.so.
> >>
> >> mga_dri.so doesn't exist on my system, nor does the dri directory within 
> >X
> >> modules. Is this normal for a Debian system? If not, what's the best way
> >> to go about fixing this?
> >
> > I have a G450 as well, I am running sid and I have those files. You are
> > missing the files.
> >
> > --Nate
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Guess I'll try reinstalling XFree86 and see if that fixes it. Failing that, 
> I guess I
> my options are upgrade to Sid XFree86 (bet that depends on half the 
> system...)
> or roll my own. Can anyone confirm that the files are there on Woody?
> 
> -- 
> Geoff Beaumont
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I'm running Woody here, and I do in fact have those files - looks like
it didn't install right.
Good luck,
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Re: Sources for tulip

2001-10-09 Thread Alexander Wallace
Thanks a lot! I'll check that out!

On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, Greg Wiley wrote:

> On: Monday, October 08, 2001 1:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > But there is nothing in the /usr/src directory since I installed from the
> > net, and I guess I didn't install any sources...
>
> > Coan someone tell me what I need to apt-get
>
> apt-get install kernel-source-
>
> Where  is the, well, version.
>
> > and then how to recompile the
> > module? I know that recompiling the kernel will recompile the module, but
> > I don't even know yet how to do that...
>
> Kernel-HOWTO.txt.gz on your system (if you
> installed the docs) gives you a great step-by step.
>
> Best,
>
>   -=greg
>
>
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Re: kdm, blackbox, and .xinitrc

2001-10-09 Thread Greg Wiley
On Monday, October 08, 2001 8:49 PM, egm2@jps.net wrote:



> On Mon, 08 Oct 2001 23:27:49 -0400 (EDT), Alexander N Gould
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 8 Oct 2001, Eric G. Miller wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 08 Oct 2001 23:03:58 -0400 (EDT), Alexander N Gould
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > My .xinitrc file does not seem to run when I start a blackbox
session form
> > >
> > > Rename it to ~/.xsession.
> > >
> >
> > Thanks; I tried that, but still nothing happens.  Any other ideas,
please?
>
> Maybe you could clarify.  Does blackbox get started?  Does some other
> window manager get started?  Does nothing happen?  I'm not too familiar
> with kdm these days, does it give you an option about what type of
> session to start?  If so, did you choose "Xsession" or "Debian"?

With KDM, the ~/.xsession is run only when you choose a
"default" session type from the login screen.  ~/.xinitrc is ignored
as far as I can tell.  In the past, I have modified the KDM session
scripts so they source an init script from the user's home regardless
of the session type.

Regards,
  -=greg





Re: Can I convert an ext2 fs to Resierfs?

2001-10-09 Thread P Kirk
>other (real) creating of a file system would. You can easily convert it 
>to ext3 if you like to.
>
>Frank

Its interesting that people don't really seem to think much of ext3
but in my experience it is superb.  I use a headless box with very old
components.  If I need to reboot and can't ssh in, just pulling the
plug works nicely...never any need to worry.



Re: Sources for tulip

2001-10-09 Thread Greg Wiley
On: Monday, October 08, 2001 1:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> But there is nothing in the /usr/src directory since I installed from the
> net, and I guess I didn't install any sources...

> Coan someone tell me what I need to apt-get 

apt-get install kernel-source-

Where  is the, well, version.

> and then how to recompile the
> module? I know that recompiling the kernel will recompile the module, but
> I don't even know yet how to do that...

Kernel-HOWTO.txt.gz on your system (if you
installed the docs) gives you a great step-by step.

Best,

  -=greg




Unable to connect to some hosts with ipmasq enabled

2001-10-09 Thread Brian McGroarty
I submitted this bug report; I'm wondering if I'm the only one
having the problem?

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=93

With IP Masquerading up on my Debian box, my Debian box cannot
connect to some hosts, i.e. www.half.com, the 2600 majordomo
listserver, my bank, etc.

There is no problem with ipmasq down, and workstations using my
Debian box to masquerade can contact these hosts just fine
through my Debain box.


The strange thing is that traceroute says the connect fails far
away, not here -

 1  gw-081-147.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net (64.81.147.1)
 2  border5.f5-1.speakeasy-15.chg.pnap.net (64.94.35.219)
 3  core4.fe0-0-bbnet1.chg.pnap.net (64.94.32.6)
 4  so-0-3-1.ar3.CHI1.gblx.net (64.211.207.5)
 5  pos1-3-622M.cr1.CHI1.gblx.net (208.49.59.213)
 6  so0-0-0-2488M.br2.CHI1.gblx.net (208.49.59.206)
 7  208.51.6.30 (208.51.6.30)
 8  sl-bb22-chi-14-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.26.6)
 9  sl-bb20-nyc-11-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.18.54)
10  sl-bb20-pen-10-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.18.37)
11  sl-bb25-pen-8-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.5.174)
12  sl-gw26-pen-0-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.5.186)
13  sl-internap-22-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.190.214)
14  border6.ge2-0-bbnet1.phi.pnap.net (216.52.64.10)
15  halfcom-1-gw.s7-2.border6.phi.pnap.net (216.52.64.218)
16  * * *
17  * * *

Something similar happens with the 2600 MX and my bank.


This makes no sense to me!


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Help with a large disk parition

2001-10-09 Thread R. Alexander
I have a 18GB SCSI HDD.

I have created a first partition (around 6GB) which is labeled /dev/sdb1.

It's in use and works great (a Squid cache).

Now I would like to create a Debian rsync mirror on the last 12GB ...
created the partition with fdisk.

here is the pic:

lori-renato:/home# fdisk -l /dev/sdb

Disk /dev/sdb: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 2212 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes

   Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb1 1   765   6144831   83  Linux
/dev/sdb2   766  2212  11623027+  83  Linux

but this is what I get when I issue the mke2fs command. Am I missing
something obvious ?? Thank you. Bob

lori-renato:~# mke2fs /dev/sdb2
mke2fs 1.25 (20-Sep-2001)
mke2fs: No such device or address while trying to determine filesystem size




Re: Where can I find some docs on debconf?

2001-10-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Oct 09, 2001 at 10:58:02AM -0400, Stan Brown wrote:
> Man debconf comes up dry. /usr/share/doc/debconf has a changes file only.

Install debconf-doc and look in /usr/share/doc/debconf-doc. Also install
debian-policy and look at
/usr/share/doc/debian-policy/debconf_specification*.

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Re: Newbie: How do I create a .deb from source?

2001-10-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Oct 09, 2001 at 11:45:39AM -0400, Faheem Mitha wrote:
> Then (in /usr/local/src/gsl/gsl-0.9.3) issue "dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc
> -rfakeroot". You will need to do all this as root.

fakeroot exists so that you don't have to do any of this as root. Since
you've already recommended -rfakeroot, building as a user is no more
complex and far preferable.

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Re: how to stop dhcp-client echo on console ?

2001-10-09 Thread Raghavendra Bhat
[Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 06:34:52PM +0200] martin f krafft :

> this is a note from iptables, not from dhclient. 

Thanks for this help.  Yes, it pops up again when I start ipmasq which
calls up iptables on a 2.4.x setup.  Goes off when the ipmasq service is
switched off.

> is tryinig to multicast on your network, which you block at the packet
> filter level. the above is an IGMP packet

Do you mean  to say that one  of the packages which I  have installed is
causing this non-blockage at the IGMP layer ?  What should I do now ?  I
am  going to  do  a purge  of  all network  security  related stuff  and
sniffers.   In the  meantime, can  you give  me some  pointers  to docs,
etc.. ?

Tnx anyway for your help...

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Re: Can I convert an ext2 fs to Resierfs?

2001-10-09 Thread Frank Zimmermann

Stan Brown wrote:


On Tue Oct  9 09:43:49 2001 Frank Zimmermann wrote...


Stan Brown wrote:


Without reformating it? While it's mounted?


If there are no data on the partition yes, otherwise no.



So, given the following layout:

/
/boot

I can't convert / ?, since I can't boot without it getting mounted.

Well, converting will just erase everything on your partition like any 
other (real) creating of a file system would. You can easily convert it 
to ext3 if you like to.


Frank




Re: setting up network (error!)

2001-10-09 Thread Antti Tolamo

At 04:05 9.10.2001, MarceI Figuerola Estrada wrote:
I was adding the ip of my network card in the interfaces ( ifconfig eth0 
192.168.0.2) and it returned this message:


SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
eth0: Unknown interface: No such device

Now, what it can be?


Some configuration error propably. Check /etc/networks/interfaces
and are all  entries written right in file and that there is no error in 
spelling.

That's the path were interfaces are in potato, don't know about
woody.

Or drop the broadcast  or move it to
just before gateway. I don't know does
the order matter in file, but no harm to
check it out.


iface eth0 inet static
 address 192.168.0.2
 netmask 255.255.255.0
network 192.168.0.
gateway  192.168.0.122



You did use 'ifup eth0' and 'ifdown eth0'
when initliazing the connection?




Marcel

- Original Message -
From: "Antti Tolamo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: setting up network



I don't think you need more than network(in this case 192.168.0.0)
and define gateway to DSL router. I'm not sure what 'auto eth0' does,
I atleast don't have it with my DSL connection.

An example:

iface eth0 inet static
 address 192.168.0.2
 netmask 255.255.255.0
network 192.168.0.0
 gateway  192.168.0.122


DNS entries you put to /etc/resolv.conf
if they aren't put there already during
installation.


On the otherhand, if that DSL router has DHCP server,
you can just install dhcp client and get addresseses from
there too. Provided of course router has such functionality
and it is configured right. And dhcp client is too.

I hope this helps.

Antti



>- Original Message -
>From: "Jean-Paul Smets" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Marcel Figuerola Estrada" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>
>Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 2:19 PM
>Subject: Re: setting up network
>
>
> > Le Lundi 8 Octobre 2001 14:08, Marcel Figuerola Estrada a écrit :
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I've just installed debian, and my question is very simple: just, 
what I

> > > have to configure my network card. This is, set my computer private
> ip, the
> > > gateway, the router ip address and the dns my provider gave me.
> > >
> > > Thank you!
> > >
> > > Marcel
> >
> > You just need to set up the file
> >
> > /etc/network/interfaces
> > ( see man interfaces )
> >
> > Here is one example (dhcp)
> >
> > # automatically added when upgrading
> > auto lo
> > iface lo inet static
> > address 127.0.0.1
> > netmask 255.0.0.0
> > # automatically added when upgrading
> > auto eth0
> > iface eth0 inet dhcp
> >
> > The same with static
> >
> > # automatically added when upgrading
> > auto lo
> > iface lo inet static
> > address 127.0.0.1
> > netmask 255.0.0.0
> > # automatically added when upgrading
> > auto eth0
> > iface eth0 inet static
> >address 192.168.0.10
> >netmask 255.255.255.0
> >
> > It is also possible to use debconf (forgot how...)
> >
> > JPS.
>
>
>
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Re: Newbie: How do I create a .deb from source?

2001-10-09 Thread Faheem Mitha


On Sat, 6 Oct 2001, Pontus Edvardsson wrote:

> Hi,
> I believe I need to use 'dpkg -b /sourcedir ' but when trying
> to build a package of the current iptables-1.2.3, it fails with an error
> about not finding '../DEBIAN/control'... I then tried the option '--nocheck'
> to no avail. Please point out what I'm missing.

I suggest looking at the debian packaging manual and/or the new
maintainers guide (debian packages of both are available). Briefly, steps
are as follows. You want a package, for example gsl.  I am assuming there
are no dependency problems here. In this case, just issue the following
command as root in a appropriate directory (/usr/local/src/gsl is good).
"apt-get -b source gsl". If you already have the sources
(gsl_0.9.3-1.diff.gz, gsl_0.9.3-1.dsc, gsl_0.9.3.orig.tar.gz)  in
/usr/local/src/gsl and want to build the package go to the unpacked
directory, for example /usr/local/src/gsl/gsl-0.9.3. (If the directory has
not been unpacked you can do so by issuing dpkg-source -x gsl_0.9.3-1.dsc
in /usr/local/src/gsl.) Then (in /usr/local/src/gsl/gsl-0.9.3) issue
"dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc -rfakeroot". You will need to do all this as
root.

Doing this as user is preferable but a little more complex.  If you have
unsatisfied dependencies, things get even more complex.

Email me if you need further help. Oh yes, and don't post to
linux.debian.user as few people will see your post. Mail to debian user
instead (see list.debian.org).

   Sincerely, Faheem Mitha.




Mysql-Php error

2001-10-09 Thread Eileen Orbell
Title: Message



Not sure if this is 
the right place to be asking this question but I just recently installed Mysql - 
client and server and PHP 4 and also PHP4-Mysql.  I am trying to configure 
PHPNuke but when I load the default index.php page it returns this 
error
 
Call to undefined function: mysql_connect() in 
/var/www/html/mainfile.php on line 
42
I can connect to the 
database locally but the error seems to be in remote connections.  Any 
ideas would be appreciated.  I have read this is a common error and seems 
to be related to PHP not being configured with Mysql.  I installed my 
packages with apt-get.
 
Thanks
 
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perfect plan tomorrow.
 


Read a xfs partition from windows.

2001-10-09 Thread bkw
Hi,

Are there any software to windows which can read more filesystems than vfat. I 
would be intrested if there was anything that 
could read xfs ext2,3 and reiserfs. If not, will it be very difficult to write 
such program ?

Thanks 



Bo Karlsson - bkw
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Re: Pine only executes from Midnight Commander

2001-10-09 Thread Faheem Mitha


On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, V.T.Jones wrote:

> Just compiled pine 4.05.  First I tried "build lnx" but it couldn't find
> "crypt" so I did "build slx" with success.

Why are you using pine 4.05? It's ancient. I suggest using pine 4.33. This
is the version in testing/unstable and I was able to sucessfully compile
it on potato from deb sources from testing/unstable. You don't say whether
you are running stable, testing or unstable. If you want instructions on
how to do this, email me.

By the way, it you post to linux.debian.user not many people will see your
post. Preferably, post to the debian user mailing list instead (see
lists.debian.org).

 Sincerely, Faheem Mitha.



Re: System Problems -- I've screwed the pooch on this one

2001-10-09 Thread Faheem Mitha
In linux.debian.user, you wrote:
> My system is displaying some truly unfathomable behavior.
> 
> I had to reformat my /home and /usr partition because of bad blocks,
> so while I was at it I also formatted / and swap (to start fresh
> again).
> 
> When I rebooted, my CDROM would not boot.  I've checked the BIOS
> settings and CDROM, C, A is the setting.  I've rebooted and
> re-verified BIOS settings multiple times with no change.  My boot
> sequence does not begin with my CDROM drive.
> 
> My LILO boot menu is unusable, as it includes only my wiped "/"
> partitions + Windows as a last option.  The problem with this is I'm
> trying to boot off of my Debian 2.2r3 CDROM and set up my system
> again.
> 
> How can I instruct my system to boot from the CDROM when the "boot: "
> prompt shows up?  (Yes, I am going to search the net for the answer.
> But this may be faster.)

OK, I don't know much about this, but do I understand you correctly as
saying you changed your bios preferences so that it should boot from
the CDROM but doesn't? And that it did this Ok before the reformatting?

In this case, you could

1) Boot from floppies and *then* use the CDROM.
2) Reinstall the bios.

I personally would consider 2 since if I understand you correctly,
your bios is messed up (don't ask me why) and you might have other
problems later. According to a hardware book I was reading, "PC
Hardware in a Nutshell", this is a relatively straightforward
business. They suggest contacting the manufacturer (website or
whatever) and also possibly taking a look at http://www.ping.be/bios/

Debian user is probably not the right place if you want to pursue this
line of enquiry (reinstalling bios) further, since this has nothing to
do with operating systems. You might try alt.comp.hardware.

Disclaimer: the above is far outside my field of expertise, so please
don't treat these suggestions as anything more than suggestions.

  Sincerely, Faheem Mitha



Re: Debian machine as Amanda tapehost, can't see itself

2001-10-09 Thread Bill Benedetto
>>> Stan Brown writes:

  Stan> I'm trying to set up a Debian machine (potato with 2.4.9
  Stan> kernel) as an Amanada tapehost to replace a HP-UX
  Stan> machine.
  Stan>
  Stan> At the moent it's mostly working, except that it can't
  Stan> see itself, as far as Amanda is concerned.
  Stan>
  Stan> Sugestions?

Did you make sure that the host was listed in the
$HOME/.amandahosts file (probably best if you put both the FQDN
and the non-FQDN versions in the file).

We didn't need/use the .amandahosts file before we switched to
Debian (although I believe that is more a function of the version
of Amanda than the OS beneath the covers).

HTH,

- Bill
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I don't speak for Goodyear and they don't speak for me.  We're both happy.



RE: Distro's

2001-10-09 Thread THIVENT Pascal
Title: RE: Distro's





GNU/Linux is a monolithic kernel while the HURD is based on GNU Mach, the microkernel of the GNU system. The Hurd is a collection of servers that run on the Mach microkernel to implement services. See :

http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd.html
http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/gnumach.html


> LINUX: (or GNU/Linux) Operating system based on Linus Torvalds' free
> Unix-like kernel
> 
> HURD: (or GNU/Hurd) Operating system based on the FSF's work and the
> Mach microkernel
> 
> I'm not terribly clear on what the functional differences between
> Linux and the Hurd are, only that they're Not The Same (TM).  The FSF
> wants you to call Linux GNU/Linux since it's the GNU userspace on top
> of the Linux kernel, as distinguished from GNU, which is the GNU
> userspace on top of the GNU Hurd kernel.
> 







RE: Takin' the plunge...

2001-10-09 Thread John Purser
I'm was in a similar position a year or so back.  I used Red Hat for a while
and I must say the install for Red Hat 7.1 is lovely!  Now I'm using Debian
Woody and am unlikely to go back.  I think the Debian "philosophy" (for want
of a better word) suits me better.  As a new user I feel that there is more
of an emphasis on getting a good basic understanding the OS without having
to go into really esoteric minutia with Debian.  apt-get is outstanding and
the help on the mailing list has been in my experience the fastest and most
accurate of any I've used.

FWIW a friend of mine really likes Mandrake.  Install and use, no sweat.

If you've got the bucks or the bandwidth then you might want to get a few
sets of CD's and have a little install party once a month or so.  Use a
distro for a while, talk to the people on each mailing list, then a month
later blow it away and start over with a new one.  See which one you really
like.

Good luck and have fun!

John Purser

-Original Message-
From: Royce Bell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 08:53
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Takin' the plunge...


Okay, this is it.  I'm about to take the plunge into Linux, but my
experience with dumb terminal-based Unix is over 20 years old.  In the
interim, I've been on Windows; a sometimes happy, but always frustrating and
infuriating marriage of convenience and productivity-enslavement.

Debian Linux was recommended to me by a friend, but (this is embarrassing to
admit, as I feel like a newbie all over again) quite frankly, I'm
confusingly overwhelmed at the different products now available.  Debian,
RedHat, etc.  Everybody says theirs is the best, but they cannot all be
correct.  I don't particularly want to go back to the command line, but I do
appreciate the minimalist approach of Unix, especially from a security
standpoint.

Any suggestions to ease the mind and grease the process?

rb
=
R. P. Bell
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Re: Takin' the plunge...

2001-10-09 Thread P Kirk
On Tue, Oct 09, 2001 at 07:53:10AM -0700, Royce Bell wrote:
>Debian Linux was recommended to me by a friend, but (this is embarrassing to
>admit, as I feel like a newbie all over again) quite frankly, I'm
>confusingly overwhelmed at the different products now available.  Debian,
>RedHat, etc.  Everybody says theirs is the best, but they cannot all be
>correct.  I don't particularly want to go back to the command line, but I do
>appreciate the minimalist approach of Unix, especially from a security
>standpoint.

The best distro is the one where you can get help quickly.  If you are 
comfortable with mailing lists, Debian is brilliant.  If you like a good thick 
book, SuSE is hard to beat.  If you can get the sysadmin at work to help out, 
chances are Red Hat will be your choice.

In my case, I used a few distros, found that I was nowhere near the level of 
expertise where any distro would be a limitation and chose Debian because I 
like the idea of a volunteer community with its free software commitment and 
its constitution.  I hope you like it too.

Patrick



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