RE: [Pour tre prcis] Re: grep ou awk

2001-12-08 Thread LUTHIER Olivier
ok,

sauf que dans ce cas là on travail sur un fichier ayant une ligne unique.
Ainsi, quand je test ta commande, c'est donc toute la ligne qu'il m'affiche
!

-Message d'origine-
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Envoyé : vendredi 7 décembre 2001 18:12
À : Sylvain Sauvage
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Objet : Re: [Pour être précis] Re: grep ou awk




 Il suffit d'ajouter un g après le dernier / pour avoir tous les totos.


En fait non parce que là 'sed' est utilisé de manière un peu détournée.
On fait plus du matching pattern que de la substitution.
On récupère uniquement le dernier cas qui concorde avec l'expression
régulière.

 echo abcTOTOxyz123TOTO789 | sed
's/.*\(.\{2\}\)TOTO\(.\{2\}\).*/\1TOTO\2/g'
23TOTO78


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Re: [OT] Un code retour bizarre....

2001-12-08 Thread Phil
bonjour à toutes et à tous  ;-)

On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 05:42:36AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 J'ai programme C qui me renvoi un code retour 139 pendant ses traitements, 
 hors 
 je ne sais pas à quoi correspondt ce code retour, si quelqu'un peut me donner 
 la marche à suivre ou connait deja la raison, merci de m'aider.

$ man return
BASH_BUILTINS(1) BASH_BUILTINS(1)
[...]
   return [n]
  Causes a function to exit  with  the  return  value
  specified by n.  If n is omitted, the return status
  is that of the last command executed in  the  func­
  tion  body.  If used outside a function, but during
  execution of a script by the .   (source)  command,
  it  causes  the shell to stop executing that script
  and return either n or the exit status of the  last
  command executed within the script as the exit sta­
  tus of the script.  If used outside a function  and
  not  during  execution of a script by ., the return
  status is false.

  ok, c'est pour le shell ; mais... c'est valable en général.

La «convention» voudrait qu'un programme retourne 'faux' en cas
d'erreur. Tout dépend maintenant de comment est codé 'faux' : il
y a souvent beaucoup de raisons possibles qui peuvent provoquer
une erreur et en général, on retourne des messages d'erreur (en texte)
compréhensibles en lieu et place des codes.
Donc, il te reste à regarder dans la doc du prog ce qui est dit
au sujet des codes d'erreur ; et sinon,
à chercher directement dans le code C  :-)

 PS:Prochain projet, je choisirai debian :-)

  c'est un problème de bonne programmation/documentation,
pas de système d'exploitation !

bon we  :-))
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Re: help réseau Woody , Sendmail Woody

2001-12-08 Thread Olivier Garet
Bien vu ! Dommage pour moi, j'ai lu ton mail trop tard (devine pourquoi!)
C'est vraiment bizarre, je n'ai  rien vu la dessus sur le net sauf 
sur le site de sendmail, qui explique justes que si tu ne mets pas tes droits
et tes possessions au carré you can not complain !

Pour info, le problème fatal était que le propriétaire de /var/spool/mqueue
était mail.mail au lieu de root.mail .
Il y avait un autre problème (moins grave) de droits (jugés laxistes) sur 
/etc/mail qui empêchait la génération des alias.
Est ce que ça justifie un rapport de bug sur la Debian ?
Enfin, il me semble que le fonctionnement de m4 ou de sendmail a changé,
car la mascarade se va pas aussi loin qu'avant avec la même config.
J'ai commencer a regarder de plus près la doc
Apparemment, pleins de trucs ont changé qui sécurisent l'ensemble mais 
rendent de nombreux Howto sur la questions obsolètes.
Si quelqu'un a de l'info, je suis preneur. 

A+

Olivier



Re: help réseau Woody , Sendmail Woody

2001-12-08 Thread VALLIET Manu
Le 08/12/01, Olivier Garet a ecrit:

 Bien vu ! Dommage pour moi, j'ai lu ton mail trop tard (devine pourquoi!)
 C'est vraiment bizarre, je n'ai  rien vu la dessus sur le net sauf 
 sur le site de sendmail, qui explique justes que si tu ne mets pas tes droits
 et tes possessions au carré you can not complain !

 Pour info, le problème fatal était que le propriétaire de /var/spool/mqueue
 était mail.mail au lieu de root.mail .
 Il y avait un autre problème (moins grave) de droits (jugés laxistes) sur
 /etc/mail qui empêchait la génération des alias.
 Est ce que ça justifie un rapport de bug sur la Debian ?
 Enfin, il me semble que le fonctionnement de m4 ou de sendmail a changé,
 car la mascarade se va pas aussi loin qu'avant avec la même config.
 J'ai commencer a regarder de plus près la doc
 Apparemment, pleins de trucs ont changé qui sécurisent l'ensemble mais
 rendent de nombreux Howto sur la questions obsolètes.
 Si quelqu'un a de l'info, je suis preneur.

 A+

 Olivier

La version potato, c'et la 8.9.3, la version woody, c'est une 8.12.1. Le
change log entre 2 fait environ... 2000 lignes. Donc le rapport de bug
sera juge moyen a mon idee.

A part ca, je me suis pas mal battu avec sendmail ces derniers
temps, et pour resoudre le probleme que tu as eu, j'ai rajoute ces lignes
(ou plutot recopie celles generees automatiquement par une installation
dirigee par sendmailconfig, customize a la debian) dans mon sendmail.mc:

OSTYPE(`debian')dnl
DOMAIN(`debian-mta')dnl
define(`confSAFE_FILE_ENV', `/')dnl

Avec ca, mon /var/spool/mqueue reste comme ca:
drwxr-s---2 mail mail 4096 Dec  8 10:27 mqueue

et mon sendmail:

-rwxr-sr-x1 root mail   732348 Oct 10 13:44 /usr/sbin/sendmail

En sendmail.cf, je sais pas trop ce que ca peut donner, et j'ai pas trop
envie de le savoir non plus ;-)

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StarOffice et Débian

2001-12-08 Thread Alex PADOLY
Bonjour à tous,

Peut-on installer StarOffice sous Bebian sans creer des problèmes de 
dépendances 

Cordialement .
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Re: StarOffice et Débian

2001-12-08 Thread nicolas
Le sam, 08 déc 2001 18:11:40 Alex PADOLYa écrit :
» Bonjour à tous,

» Peut-on installer StarOffice sous Bebian sans creer des problèmes de 
» dépendances 

Pour l'instant j'ai SO 5.2 sur ma patate à jour et aucun problème 
depuis 5 mois (contrairement à RH =7.1).
J'ai pris soin d'installer SO dans /usr/local/soffice.

nicolas patrois, pts, noir asocial
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libqt2-dev, hpoj, etc...

2001-12-08 Thread Erwan David
Ayant acquis une hpoffice jet ja'i installé le package hpoj
qui s'appuie sur qt =2.3

Mais certains programmes ne sont pas dans le package, qu'à cela ne
tienne je vais les compiler, ce qui demande bien sûr libqt2-dev

Et là le trou : libqt2-dev en woody est du 2.0.2, et refuse de
s'installer...

De plus ce package n'existerait pas du tout en sid...

PS: autre question, comment faire comprtendre à apt que le gs patché
que j'ai installé par alien est bien un gs et que donc je peux avoir
gv ?

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Re: [OT] Un code retour bizarre....

2001-12-08 Thread edeveaud
On Sat, 8 Dec 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 J'ai programme C qui me renvoi un code retour 139 pendant ses traitements, 
 hors
 je ne sais pas à quoi correspondt ce code retour, si quelqu'un peut me donner
 la marche à suivre ou connait deja la raison, merci de m'aider.

voir du cote de syserrlist et errno

a priori 139 correspond a une valeur de retour d'erreur d'une
fonction C systeme utilise dans le code.

Eric

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Comment freezer son tuxounet...

2001-12-08 Thread boukhairi
Bonjour tout le monde,

Contexte:
debian unstable, Xfree (xserver-xfree8 4.1), noyau 2.4.16, carte
graphique G450

Depuis quelques jours j'essaie en vain d'exploiter les capacités GL de
cette carte graphique
donc, recompil du noyau , activation de AGPART, driver MGA et
remplacement de la Hal lib ainsi
que le pilote X mga par les binaires delivres par MATROX, et bien le
test de Glxgear est concluant
le framerate est un peu superieur a *2 par rapport a sans:
SANS:
597 frames in 5.0 seconds = 119.400 FPS
480 frames in 5.0 seconds = 96.000 FPS
AVEC
1178 frames in 5.0 seconds = 235.600 FPS
1273 frames in 5.0 seconds = 254.600 FPS
1266 frames in 5.0 seconds = 253.200 FPS

Jusque la rien de tres anormal, mais lorsque j'essaie de
lancer une appli qui utilise gl (quake-gl ou gltron), et bien FREEZE
totale
il n'ya que le reset et 20 minutes a zyeuter les inodes pour retrouver
le pingouin 
Ya surement quelque chose qui m'echappe mais si quelqu'un pouvaite
m'eclairer
merci beaucoup

peut etre devrais-je recompiler X + les sources des drivers hallib et
mga
quelques infos:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/abde] lsmod
Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
mga   103472   1 
w83781d17120   0 
i2c-viapro  3752   0  (unused)

Log de XFree

This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any
way.  Bugs may be reported to XFree86@XFree86.Org and patches submitted
to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions,
please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository
(http://www.XFree86.Org/cvs)

XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510)
Release Date: xx August 2001
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.13 i686 [ELF] 
Module Loader present
(==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Sat Dec  8 22:34:06 2001
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) ServerLayout Simple Layout
(**) |--Screen Screen0 (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor Monitor0
(**) |   |--Device G400_1
(**) |--Input Device Mouse1
(**) |--Input Device Keyboard1
(**) Option XkbRules xfree86
(**) XKB: rules: xfree86
(**) Option XkbModel pc104
(**) XKB: model: pc104
(**) Option XkbLayout fr
(**) XKB: layout: fr
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/ does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/ does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in
/dos/winprout/winprout/fonts/.
Entry deleted from font path.
(Run 'mkfontdir' on /dos/winprout/winprout/fonts/).
(**) FontPath set to
unix/:7110,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
(**) RgbPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
(**) ModulePath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
(--) using VT number 2

(WW) Cannot open APM
(II) Module ABI versions:
XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1
XFree86 Video Driver: 0.4
XFree86 XInput driver : 0.2
XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1
XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.2
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: bitmap
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: pcidata
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4
(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x800024d0, mode1Res1 = 0x8000
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 1106,0305 card 1043,8033 rev 02 class 06,00,00
hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 1106,8305 card , rev 00 class 06,04,00
hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:04:0: chip 1106,0686 card 1043,8033 rev 22 class 06,01,00
hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:04:1: chip 1106,0571 card , rev 10 class 01,01,8a
hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:04:2: chip 1106,3038 card 0925,1234 rev 10 class 

Vitesse de connection...

2001-12-08 Thread Di Pietro Nicolas

Hello la liste !
Petite question bête mais pour moi insolvable :
ou puis je trouver la vitesse de connection de ma machine sur internet ?
J'utilise une Patate R3 et pon pour me connecter.
Je pensait trouver cela dans /proc/ mais si c'est le cas, il et bien
camouflé !
D'avance merci.
Nicolas
PS: ne me dites pas d'utiliser un autre utilitaire pour me connecter car
pour des raisons d'espace disque, je pense devoir me limiter à pon. 





Re: Vitesse de connection...

2001-12-08 Thread VALLIET Manu
Le 09/12/01, Di Pietro Nicolas a ecrit:


 Hello la liste !
 Petite question bête mais pour moi insolvable :
 ou puis je trouver la vitesse de connection de ma machine sur internet ?
 J'utilise une Patate R3 et pon pour me connecter.
 Je pensait trouver cela dans /proc/ mais si c'est le cas, il et bien
 camouflé !
 D'avance merci.
 Nicolas
 PS: ne me dites pas d'utiliser un autre utilitaire pour me connecter car
 pour des raisons d'espace disque, je pense devoir me limiter à pon.

wmnet utilise /proc/net/dev
wmnet, ca fait 22k, c'est pas grand chose. Y'a p'tet des dependances, ceci
dit.

Sinon:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/proc/net$ cat dev
Inter-|   Receive|
Transmit
 face |bytespackets errs drop fifo frame compressed multicast|bytes
packets errs drop fifo colls carrier compressed
lo:  6429397907000 0  0 0   642939
7907000 0   0  0
  eth0:1313255463  946478090 5  0 0
38848032  52684300030   0  0
  ppp0:1292321893  944626000 0  0 0
27188083  525020000 0   0  0


Ca donne pas la vitesse directement, mais y'a qu'a faire une moyenne sur
quelques secondes.

Par exemple:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/proc/net$ M1=`cat dev | grep ppp0 | sed -e
's/ppp0:\([0-9]*\).*/\1/' ` ; \
 sleep 5; \
 M2=`cat dev | grep ppp0 | sed -e 's/ppp0:\([0-9]*\).*/\1/' `; \
 echo $(( (M2-M1) / 5 ))
130612

Ce qui donne 130ko/s en download (c'est correct, comme debit :-) )

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Re: Fw: GNOME

2001-12-08 Thread Miroslaw Sankowski
W liście z czw, 06-12-2001, godz. 18:30, Jacek Jackowski pisze: 
 nie namierzyłem takiego pliku  ~/.xsession może można zrobić to inaczej?

touch ~/.xsession
i jest. Naprawdę, zrób właśnie tak.
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Locale jeszcze raz

2001-12-08 Thread Bogusław Olszewski
Witam,

Wielkie sorki, ze znowu pytam o to samo ale po doprowadzeniu locale do
porzadku ostatnio w woody, trafila sie zmiana dysku i puscilem z dymem
ustawienia. Pakiet fonty zainstalowany (links wysietla wszystko ok).
Programy i komunikaty sa po angielsku i jak istaluje cos apt to wywala mi
przy okazji cos takiego:

perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
 LANGUAGE = (unset),
 LC_ALL = ,
 LC_TIME = pl_PL,
 LC_NUMERIC = pl_PL,
 LC_CTYPE = pl_PL,
 LC_MESSAGE = pl_PL,
 LC_MONETARY = pl_PL,
 LC_COLLATE = pl_PL,
 LANG = polish
are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C).

To, co powyzej mam w /etc/environment.

Jeszcze raz sorki,

BoL

PS. CZY JEST ARCHIWUM TEJ GRUPY?



test

2001-12-08 Thread Boguslaw Olszewski

jw



Re: Locale jeszcze raz

2001-12-08 Thread Boguslaw Olszewski
Dnia Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 11:35:07AM +0100, Bogusław Olszewski napisał:
 Witam,
 
 Wielkie sorki, ze znowu pytam o to samo ale po doprowadzeniu locale do
 porzadku ostatnio w woody, trafila sie zmiana dysku i puscilem z dymem
 ustawienia. Pakiet fonty zainstalowany (links wysietla wszystko ok).
 Programy i komunikaty sa po angielsku i jak istaluje cos apt to wywala mi
 przy okazji cos takiego:
 
 
To co wyżej już nie aktualne.

CZY JEST ARCHIWUM TEJ GRUPY? aktualne jak najbardziej.

Pozdrawiam,

BoL



Re: Locale jeszcze raz

2001-12-08 Thread Michal Politowski
On Sun,  9 Dec 2001 16:17:21 +0100, Boguslaw Olszewski wrote:
^^^
Witamy przybysza z przyszłości.
 CZY JEST ARCHIWUM TEJ GRUPY? aktualne jak najbardziej.

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-polish/

i nie trzeba tak krzyczeć, nie jesteśmy jeszcze głusi

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Re: Locale jeszcze raz

2001-12-08 Thread Boguslaw Olszewski
Dnia Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 04:36:05PM +0100, Michal Politowski napisał:
 On Sun,  9 Dec 2001 16:17:21 +0100, Boguslaw Olszewski wrote:
 ^^^
 Witamy przybysza z przyszłości.

Juz wrocilem ;)

  CZY JEST ARCHIWUM TEJ GRUPY? aktualne jak najbardziej.
 
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-polish/
 
 i nie trzeba tak krzyczeć, nie jesteśmy jeszcze głusi
 
Przepraszam najmocniej, tak mi sie krzyknelo bo to dla mnie wazne :)

BoL
 



Re: Tamaño de letra en la consola

2001-12-08 Thread J. Carlos Romero
 jmdelgado == jmdelgado  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

jmdelgado  Hola a la lista, lo que quiero saber es que archivo
jmdelgado debo de configurar para cambiar el tipo de letra que
jmdelgado uso cuando trabajo en modo de comandos (sólo texto) sin
jmdelgado entrar a X, ya que quiero ver mas de las 25 líneas que
jmdelgado veo ahora.  Gracias de antemano.  Marcos Delgado.

Si usas lilo en el arranque pon la opción vga=ask en tu lilo.conf. Eso
te permitirá elegir entre unas cuantas dimensiones de fuentes en
pantalla. Luego puedes quedarte con la que más te guste. Yo tengo
vga=7 y me va de perlas.

No olvides correr la orden lilo después de actualizar el lilo.conf

Saludos.

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Re: Urgente! Read-only file system

2001-12-08 Thread Roberto López
Gunar y otros me contaron:
[]
Después de esto, monta tu disco duro en modo de lectura/escritura:

# mount / -o remount,rw

Tal vez tengas que montar otras particiones (especialmente /usr) - estas
las puedes montar como siempre:

# mount -a

Si no pega, tal vez tu /etc/fstab haya tronado. Móntala especificando todo
y corrige tu fstab.

Haz lo que tengas que hacer, y después de esto, desmonta tus particiones,

Gracias!
Gracias a todos. Que buena lista. ¡Y que lista! Ni que fuera un 
chat.
Efectivamente,
# mount -w -o remount /
hace un remount rw de la particion, que, cosa curiosa, hace que todo se 
dispare; 
hasta se inicia el modo grafico.
Pero lo mejor, ya se pueden ejecutar programas de los que generan temporales y 
se 
pueden modificar ficheros. Entre ellos el /etc/fstab.

Pues si, ALGO cambio la linea de montaje del raiz y en lugar de lo 
estandar 'defaults,error=remount-ro', aparecia 'user,exec,ro,suid,error=remount-
ro'.

Devolviendolo a su valor original, reboot y ¡yastá!

Gracias mil a todos. Gracias Debian.
Rober.
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Re: Urgente! Read-only file system [Entonces...]

2001-12-08 Thread Roberto López

 Pues si, ALGO cambio la linea de montaje del raiz y en lugar de lo
 estandar 'defaults,error=remount-ro', aparecia 'user,exec,ro,suid,
 error=remount-ro'.

Bueno. He querido separar el mensaje de agradecimiento de la question 
subsiguiente que surje.
¿Quien fue ese ALGO?
Alguien sabria decirme que programas pueden tener acceso a /etc/fstab 
para 
poder enterarme de que fue lo que paso.
 
De nuevo, gracias.
Rober

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varios procesos

2001-12-08 Thread Prosi
Hola, cuando pongo el xmms y veo los procesos con ps aux, me aparece 4 veces el 
xmms, y estos procesos van siendo hijos del padre uno tras otro, es normal k el 
xmms me pille 4 procesos? si solo es un reproductor de mp3, como puede pillar 
tanto?

chau



javi   274  0.1  2.4 15472 6236 ?S11:44   0:00 xmms 
/mnt/d6/sounds/80's Music -=- Eclips Of The Heart.mp3
javi   275  0.0  2.4 15472 6236 ?S11:44   0:00 xmms 
/mnt/d6/sounds/80's Music -=- Eclips Of The Heart.mp3
javi   276  0.0  2.4 15472 6236 ?S11:44   0:00 xmms 
/mnt/d6/sounds/80's Music -=- Eclips Of The Heart.mp3
javi   277  0.0  2.4 15472 6236 ?S11:44   0:00 xmms 
/mnt/d6/sounds/80's Music -=- Eclips Of The Heart.mp3



Re: actualizacion a woody fallida

2001-12-08 Thread Santiago Vila
Seik:
 Me empezo a dar constantemente este error:

 perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
 perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LANGUAGE = (unset),
LC_ALL = es_ES,
LANG = spanish
 are supported and installed on your system.
  perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C).

¿Dónde está la palabra error? :-) Esos no son errores, son avisos o
advertencias, como la propia palabra warning indica.

Dado que el sistema de locales ha cambiado entre potato y woody, te
recomiendo que pongas LANG=C durante la actualización (cuando te
funcionen los locales en woody vuelves a poner es_ES por ejemplo).
Esto te permitirá ver con claridad si hay algún mensaje de error de
verdad. El aviso sobre los locales debería ser inofensivo.



Re: Urgente! Read-only file system [Entonces...]

2001-12-08 Thread Antonio Castro
On Sat, 8 Dec 2001, Roberto López wrote:

 
  Pues si, ALGO cambio la linea de montaje del raiz y en lugar de lo
  estandar 'defaults,error=remount-ro', aparecia 'user,exec,ro,suid,
  error=remount-ro'.
 
   Bueno. He querido separar el mensaje de agradecimiento de la question 
 subsiguiente que surje.
   ¿Quien fue ese ALGO?
   Alguien sabria decirme que programas pueden tener acceso a /etc/fstab 
 para 
 poder enterarme de que fue lo que paso.
  
 De nuevo, gracias.
 Rober

No existe ningún motivo para que un programa escriba en ese fichero.
Podría haber sido un fallo de hardware en ese caso podría volver a
ocurrir algo parecido.

Prueba a usar badblocks sobre esa partición.
!!OJO!! usalo SIN la opción de escritura -w.



Un saludo

Antonio Castro

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Galeon y SSL

2001-12-08 Thread José Luis Ayala
Wenas...

Resulta que tengo instalado el galeon que viene empaquetadito hasta la 
fecha en Sid (Galeon 1.0-2), pero soy incapaz de acceder a las páginas 
seguras (https)... y lo mismo me pasa si pruebo con Mozilla. 
¿Tengo q instalar algún paquetillo adicional? ¿cuál? ¿es una limitación 
del actual Galeón? si es así... ¿habéis probado a alienizar el rpm de la 
versión 1.1 o a compilar las fuentes?

Muuuchas gracias por la ayuda Ta'luego, 

Jose

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dns+qmail Necesito aclaración

2001-12-08 Thread daniel cabello

Hola listeros;
lo que pasa es que quiero configurar qmail, para un ip de
internet, y resulta que se me arma un lio (en mi cabeza), con dns.

Necesito un par de aclaraciones
server: server.daniel,com server // se encarga de lo e-mails
ej. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* Si yo mando un mail a [EMAIL PROTECTED] , cual es el
tracertroute que va hacer para llegar a mi server.
que necesito tener para que llegue ???
por que??


que tiene que ver djbdns??


Lo que creo es que no tengo claro un par de cosas es por eso que
no doy pie con bola.. Se aceptan consejos, aclaraciones links de
info (ya he leido algunos ), y demas..

muchas gracias..

pd: Disculpen al pregunton, ya va ir aprendiendo.



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¿Se puede hacer en vi?

2001-12-08 Thread Daniel Costas
Tengo un fichero con lineas que contienen datos en pesetas y necesito 
convertirlos a euros. Para ellos habia pensado en usar vi para hacer una 
busqueda y sustitucion pero no encuentro la forma de que me haga la operacion 
matematica.

la cadena que uso de sustitucion es:
s/\\([0-9]*\)\/\\1/166.386\/g;
   ^___^

El problema es que lo mete como texto literal al hacer la sustitucion. ¿A 
alguien se le ocurre como se podria hacer para que hiciese la operacion 
matematica de dividir?

Habia pensado en hacerlo con un programilla en perl, pero el problema es que 
hay que ir seleccionando las lineas ya que no interesa la conversion de todo 
el texto, solo la de algunas lineas (bastantes, por cierto)

Muy agradecido...
- 
Daniel Costas
Burgos- Spain



Re: ¿Se puede hacer en vi?

2001-12-08 Thread Santiago Vila
Daniel Costas:
 Tengo un fichero con lineas que contienen datos en pesetas y
 necesito convertirlos a euros. Para ellos habia pensado en usar vi
 para hacer una busqueda y sustitucion pero no encuentro la forma de
 que me haga la operacion matematica.

 la cadena que uso de sustitucion es:
 s/\\([0-9]*\)\/\\1/166.386\/g;
^___^

 El problema es que lo mete como texto literal al hacer la sustitucion. ¿A
 alguien se le ocurre como se podria hacer para que hiciese la operacion
 matematica de dividir?

 Habia pensado en hacerlo con un programilla en perl, pero el problema es que
 hay que ir seleccionando las lineas ya que no interesa la conversion de todo
 el texto, solo la de algunas lineas (bastantes, por cierto)

No seas chapucero, debes seguir las reglas de redondeo oficiales
(no, no creo que el vi sepa hacer redondeos), o cualquier otro método
que dé el mismo resultado.

Si hubiera solamente un precio por línea, yo lo haría así:

#!/usr/bin/awk -f
{
 if (l=match($0,\[0-9]*\)) {
  cantidad=substr($0,l+1,RLENGTH-2)
  print substr($0,1,l) int(cantidad/166.386*100+0.5)/100 substr($0,l-1+RLENGTH)
 }
 else {
  print $0
 }
}

Atención: Este programa te lo doy con la esperanza de que te sea útil
pero sin NINGUNA garantía :-)



instalar woody

2001-12-08 Thread Seik
Despues de intentar varias veces sin exito actualizar mi potato a
woody,estoy pensando en comprar directamente los CD's de woody e
instalarlos,pero tengo algunas dudas:
El proceso de instalacion de woody es como el de potato? supongo que sera
parecido...es que no he encontrado manuales sobre eso...existe alguna guia
sobre la instalacion de woody?
las tareas de castellanizacion, configuracion del sonido, etc se hacen de la
misma forma que en potato? imagino que si,pero quiero asegurarme...
Por ultimo, estoy pensando en pedir los CD's en opencd.com, donde ya pedi
los de Potato. Alguien conoce algun sitio mejor donde pedirlos?

Eso es todo
Gracias.



Re: Galeon y SSL

2001-12-08 Thread PJ Pérez
A Dissabte 08 Desembre 2001 13:17, José Luis Ayala va escriure:
 Wenas...

   Resulta que tengo instalado el galeon que viene empaquetadito hasta la
 fecha en Sid (Galeon 1.0-2), pero soy incapaz de acceder a las páginas
 seguras (https)... y lo mismo me pasa si pruebo con Mozilla. ¿Tengo q
 instalar algún paquetillo adicional? ¿cuál? ¿es una limitación del actual
 Galeón? si es así... ¿habéis probado a alienizar el rpm de la versión 1.1
 o a compilar las fuentes?

   Muuuchas gracias por la ayuda Ta'luego,

   Jose

Buenas Jose!!!

Vaya, a mi también me pasa lo mismo con Galeon. Pero ahora que dices 
que te 
pasa también con Mozilla se me ocurre que quizá instalando el Personal 
Security Manager de Mozilla funcione también para Galeon. Así que ya sabes, 
apt-get install mozilla-psm y ya puedes acceder a páginas seguras (yo 
también uso Sid).

Saludos!

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Re: Galeon y SSL

2001-12-08 Thread PJ Pérez
A Dissabte 08 Desembre 2001 15:22, PJ Pérez va escriure:
 A Dissabte 08 Desembre 2001 13:17, José Luis Ayala va escriure:
  Wenas...
 
  Resulta que tengo instalado el galeon que viene empaquetadito hasta la
  fecha en Sid (Galeon 1.0-2), pero soy incapaz de acceder a las páginas
  seguras (https)... y lo mismo me pasa si pruebo con Mozilla. ¿Tengo q
  instalar algún paquetillo adicional? ¿cuál? ¿es una limitación del actual
  Galeón? si es así... ¿habéis probado a alienizar el rpm de la versión
  1.1 o a compilar las fuentes?
 
  Muuuchas gracias por la ayuda Ta'luego,
 
  Jose

 Buenas Jose!!!

   Vaya, a mi también me pasa lo mismo con Galeon. Pero ahora que dices que
 te pasa también con Mozilla se me ocurre que quizá instalando el Personal
 Security Manager de Mozilla funcione también para Galeon. Así que ya
 sabes, apt-get install mozilla-psm y ya puedes acceder a páginas seguras
 (yo también uso Sid).

 Saludos!

Efectivamente, ya me funciona. No se porqué siempre habia pensado que el psm 
de mozilla no era para Galeon, pero me extrañaba que siendo Galeon un 
producto 1.0 no soportara SSL. Ahora ya tengo navegador preferido :o)

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Re: Copia exacta de un cd con dd

2001-12-08 Thread Santiago Pastorino
El viernes 07 de diciembre de 2001 a las 19:25:14 +0100, Antonio Castro 
escribió:
 On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Enzo Dari wrote:
 
  EN CASO DE PROBLEMAS CON LA IMAGEN:
  
  Para asegurarnos de que el lector CDROM y el cdrom están bien se le puede
  hacer un md5sum al CD haciendo como root:
  
  head --bytes=`isosize /dev/cdrom`   /dev/cdrom | md5sum
  
  isosize está en el paquete:  cdwrite
  
  *Gracias a Antonio Castro por el truco (leer solo los bytes necesarios)
  ya que md5sum /dev/cdrom acaba dando error al leer /dev/cdrom*
  ...

A mi me funcionó perfecto haciendolo de esta manera
cat /dev/cdrom | md5sum
la única diferencia que hay con el metodo ese, es que te tira un error
porque de esta forma no le estás diciendo el final del cd, pero igual
anda.
Saludos.


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Re: varios procesos

2001-12-08 Thread Enzo Dari
Prosi wrote:
 
 Hola, cuando pongo el xmms y veo los procesos con ps aux, me aparece 4 veces 
 el xmms, y estos procesos van siendo hijos del padre uno tras otro, es normal 
 k el xmms me pille 4 procesos? si solo es un reproductor de mp3, como puede 
 pillar tanto?
 
 chau
 
 javi   274  0.1  2.4 15472 6236 ?S11:44   0:00 xmms 
 /mnt/d6/sounds/80's Music -=- Eclips Of The Heart.mp3
 javi   275  0.0  2.4 15472 6236 ?S11:44   0:00 xmms 
 /mnt/d6/sounds/80's Music -=- Eclips Of The Heart.mp3
 javi   276  0.0  2.4 15472 6236 ?S11:44   0:00 xmms 
 /mnt/d6/sounds/80's Music -=- Eclips Of The Heart.mp3
 javi   277  0.0  2.4 15472 6236 ?S11:44   0:00 xmms 
 /mnt/d6/sounds/80's Music -=- Eclips Of The Heart.mp3
 ...
Seguramente son varios threads, también llamados procesos
livianos. Hacen falta porque un mismo proceso no podría reproducir
un tema sin cortes mientras atiende a los eventos de teclado/mouse.
No son como los procesos estándar porque comparten la memoria
entre sí, de modo que los 15/6 Mbytes que acusan en memoria
no deben sumarse. La CPU que usan sí hay que sumarla.

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servidor de sonido

2001-12-08 Thread Matías nnss
Hola:
Estoy tratando de configurar un servidor de sonido para que sierta
gente a travez de internet pueda escuchar lo que yo les mande (lo que en
Windows se hace con REalServer). 
Alquien conoce algun paquete que sirva para esto, o alguna otra
forma de hacerlo.

Atentamente, yo



Re: servidor de sonido

2001-12-08 Thread PJ Pérez
A Dissabte 08 Desembre 2001 17:05, Matías va escriure:
 Hola:
   Estoy tratando de configurar un servidor de sonido para que sierta
 gente a travez de internet pueda escuchar lo que yo les mande (lo que en
 Windows se hace con REalServer).
   Alquien conoce algun paquete que sirva para esto, o alguna otra
 forma de hacerlo.

 Atentamente, yo

Buenas!

Pues mira, puedes hacer streaming de mp3 con Icecast y xmms. Es como el 
shoutcast del winamp :)

P.D.: Creo que tambien hay versión de RealServer para Linux, claro que no es 
gratis ni tampoco libre :(

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Tarjeta Sonido Intel 820 AC'97

2001-12-08 Thread Albert Einstein

  Hola a todos!!!

  A ver si me podéis ayudar... Estoy tratando de configurar una tarjeta de 
sonido de ésas integradas en placa, una Intel 82820 AC'97. He descargado los 
módulos de ALSA y los he configurado con el alsaconf. Me dio un montón de 
errores con los parámetros pasados a través del modutils (tamaño de frame, 
buffer, etc...) así q los quité y, actualmente, la salida del lsmod es 
snd-pcm-oss, snd-mixer-oss, snd-card-intel8x0, snd-pcm, snd-timer, 
snd-ac97-codec, snd y soundcore.


  Sin embargo, si hago un cat archivito.wav  /dev/dsp no suena ná de ná... 
No da ningún error, simplemente no suena!!! Y lo mismo pasa con el resto de 
programas de audio. ¿Qué le puede ocurrir?


  Muchas gracias por vuestra ayuda. Un saludo.

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Re: Tarjeta Sonido Intel 820 AC'97

2001-12-08 Thread alex

A ver si me podéis ayudar... Estoy tratando de configurar una tarjeta de
 sonido de ésas integradas en placa, una Intel 82820 AC'97. He descargado los
 módulos de ALSA y los he configurado con el alsaconf. Me dio un montón de

 ...

Sin embargo, si hago un cat archivito.wav  /dev/dsp no suena ná de ná...
 No da ningún error, simplemente no suena!!! Y lo mismo pasa con el resto de
 programas de audio. ¿Qué le puede ocurrir?

Si no te da ningun error, probablemente, casi al 100% sea problema
de mixer. ALSA, por defecto inicia los canales del mixer sin volumen, osea
que tendras que subirlos manualmente y grabar la configuracion con
'alsactl' (asi como restaurarla cada vez que inicies).

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Re: Tarjeta Sonido Intel 820 AC'97

2001-12-08 Thread Santiago Vila
 si hago un cat archivito.wav  /dev/dsp no suena ná de ná...

Esa es una forma un poco bestia de probar el /dev/dsp. Acabo de
probarlo con mi tarjeta y sale un montón de ruido, a pesar de que
tengo mi tarjeta bien configurada. Prueba bplay archivito.wav.

Eso sí, sube un poco el volumen como te han aconsejado.
Si no le dices nada y usas ALSA, tendrás el volumen a cero.



Re: Configurando una C media 9738.

2001-12-08 Thread Seba
On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 23:21:21 -0300
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Saludos Debianitas!!
 Tengo una placa del tipo onboard C MEDIA 8738 cuyo modulo correspondiente
 en potato es el cmpci el cual se instala perfectamente.
 El unico problema es el volumen que es muy bajo,lo cual me hace suponer que 
 la 
 configuracion no esta lo suficientemente pulida como debiera.
 La pregunta es como puedo saber los parametros que puedo colocar en el 
 modconf,
 para esta tarjeta?.
 Habra algun archivo/comando que me informe los irq u otros parametros utiles
 para mejorar la instalacion de este modulo?.
 les agradece su tiempo y saluda...
 Juan Ortiz
 

Yo lo que hacia era poner una linea del tipo: post-install cmpci 'comando'
en /etc/modutils/audio y que ejecute un programa para que levante el sonido. 
Por si no sabes como funciona esto mirate la pagina de manual
de modules.conf. Lo que hace es ejecutar 'comando' cuando se carga el
modulo cmpci. Con el aumix podes hacerlo, y la linea te quedaria asi:

post-install cmpci aumix -v75

Acordate de ejecutar update-modules despues de agregar esta linea, y
de volver a cargar el modulo para que haga efecto.

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¿ Cual kernel instalo ?

2001-12-08 Thread Fernando
Estimado debian-user-spanish,

Resulta que por el problema del winmodem (los módulos que están compilados
para el kernel 2.2.18) tengo que instalarme el kernel 2.2.18, según Gunnar
Wolf es preferible instalar el kernel 2.2.20, pero tengo algunas dudas:

1-  Tengo  alguno de estos kernels en mis cds de potato o me los tengo que
bajar ???
2- Tiene muchos errores el 2.2.18 ???
3- Cual es su consejo ???

Un saludo.

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Re: dns+qmail Necesito aclaración

2001-12-08 Thread tuxsy
 
 Hola listeros;

Hola

 lo que pasa es que quiero configurar qmail, para un ip de 
 internet, y resulta que se me arma un lio (en mi cabeza), con dns.

Lo mismo estoy configurando yo, pero con postfix

 Necesito un par de aclaraciones
server: server.daniel,com server // se encarga de lo e-mails
 ej. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 * Si yo mando un mail a [EMAIL PROTECTED] , cual es el 
 tracertroute que va hacer para llegar a mi server.
 que necesito tener para que llegue ???
 por que??

Mira para eso debes tener un nameserver configurado mara manejar 
daniel.com. Cuando registras un dominio, en este caso daniel.com, al 
principio te ponen unos nameservers que se encargan de controlar tu 
dominio, mira si puedes configurar esos servidores de nombres. Si no 
puedes tendrás que hacer lo que yo, instalar Bind y configurar tu el 
servidor de nombres, sobre la configuración léete 
http://laespiral.org/documentacion/articulos/bind/bind18052000.html que 
lo explica muy bien. Luego le modificas los datos del dominio para 
añadir un nuevo nameserver (el que has configurado tu), naturalmente te 
va a hacer falta una ip pública.

Cuando configures Bind verás que en el fichero de definición de zona 
hay unos registros particulares, los MX, que son los que se utilizan 
para saber quien es el encargado del correo en ese dominio, el 
ordenador sobre el que corres qmail.

En vez de bind supongo que podrás usar djbdns. Además igual tienes que 
decir le al qmail que acepte el correo del dominio en cuestión.

 
 que tiene que ver djbdns??

Pues para configurarte el nameserver. Supongo que puede hacer lo mismo 
que Bind y además dicen que es más seguro no se  cuenta cuando 
lo pruebes.

 Lo que creo es que no tengo claro un par de cosas es por eso que 
 no doy pie con bola.. Se aceptan consejos, aclaraciones links de 
 info (ya he leido algunos ), y demas..

Espero haberte ayudado.




Configurando color de fuentes en consola en woody.

2001-12-08 Thread juan_ortiz
Saludos Debianitas!!
Alguien tendra idea si se puede asignar algun color a las fuentes de la consola 
de woody?.
Por ahoar no uso X por lo que tendria que ser desde la consola directamente.
gracias por su tiempo,los saluda...
Juan Ortiz



Cable que une 2 ordenadores.

2001-12-08 Thread Jose Luis Alarcon
  Hola a [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Acabo de instalar en casa un segundo ordenador, y
lo he unido con un cable al que ya venia usando.

  Quiero ponerlos en red, pero mi idea del tema es
menos que nada.

  Os pido, por favor, unas nociones básicas con las
que empezar.

  Muchas gracias por anticipado.

  Saludos.

  Jose Luis.

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Re: Cable que une 2 ordenadores.

2001-12-08 Thread alex

   Acabo de instalar en casa un segundo ordenador, y
 lo he unido con un cable al que ya venia usando.

Que tipo de cable, de red, null modem, cetronics ?

   Quiero ponerlos en red, pero mi idea del tema es
 menos que nada.

   Os pido, por favor, unas nociones básicas con las
 que empezar.

Lo primero seria configurar los interfaces que van a unir un
equipo con el otro, para esto hace falta saber la pregunta que te hago
antes, hablando claro, si los vas a unir por ethernet, slip, plip...

Despues de esto, habria que saber que tipo de servicios quieres
usar en la red. Solo unirlos via tcpip, acceder a recursos windows
(samba), poder acceder a internet usando masquerading/nat...

En fin, como ves hay muchas cosas y si eres tan poco especifico
con lo que quieres hacer y como lo vas a hacer, es un poco dificil
explicar como ;-)

Z0MBiE / ELiTE (visit us at http://move.to/elite-hq)



Re: Cable que une 2 ordenadores.

2001-12-08 Thread Andres Herrera
El Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 12:25:09PM -0800, Jose Luis Alarcon disidio iscribir:

Guenas

   Acabo de instalar en casa un segundo ordenador, y
 lo he unido con un cable al que ya venia usando.

Eje, como ya te han comentado, ¿qué cable? ¿enganchado a dónde? ¿el
cable está bien (p.ej, rj45 correctamente cruzado)?

   Quiero ponerlos en red, pero mi idea del tema es
 menos que nada.

Lo primero es configurar los interfaces de red (según qué interfaces
sean). Lo siguiente es saber qué quieres hacer exactamente con esa red y
así configurar lo que sea menester.

   Os pido, por favor, unas nociones b?sicas con las
 que empezar.

Bueno, no digas que no lo pediste: http://lucas.hispalinux.es,
/usr/share/doc, man...

El ultimo netx-howto
man interfaces
man hosts
man inetd.conf

Y si te entra la desesperación o algo no lo pillas bien, a preguntar ;-)

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Re: Cable que une 2 ordenadores.

2001-12-08 Thread Jose Luis Alarcon
  Tienes razon, Alex.

  He sido muy poco especifico. Ante todo
muchas gracias por la amabilidad al responder.

  El cable con el que he unido los dos ordenadores
es un cable que en cada uno de sus extremos tiene
una terminacion bifida, con dos conectores,
por una parte hay un puerto serie , macho es decir con 
clavijas finitas para meter en agujeros, por otro un
conector mas grande (¿puede ser paralelo?) con agujeritos
para que puedan entrar clavijitas, yo lo llamaria hembra.

  Espero haberme explicado suficientemente, mis conocimientos
de hardware son inexistentes. En cuanto al proposito de la red
es simplemente que ambos ordenadores compartan conexion a 
Internet mediante modem (solo tengo uno) y compartan una unica
impresora. Poco mas, si puedo transferir archivos del uno al
otro, miel sobre hojuelas.

  Te repito mi agradecimiento Alex.

  Saludos.

  Jose.

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Usuario Linux registrado #213309.
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--- alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Acabo de instalar en casa un segundo ordenador, y
 lo he unido con un cable al que ya venia usando.

 Que tipo de cable, de red, null modem, cetronics ?

   Quiero ponerlos en red, pero mi idea del tema es
 menos que nada.

   Os pido, por favor, unas nociones b=E1sicas con las
 que empezar.

 Lo primero seria configurar los interfaces que van a unir un
equipo con el otro, para esto hace falta saber la pregunta que te hago
antes, hablando claro, si los vas a unir por ethernet, slip, plip...

 Despues de esto, habria que saber que tipo de servicios quieres
usar en la red. Solo unirlos via tcpip, acceder a recursos windows
(samba), poder acceder a internet usando masquerading/nat...

 En fin, como ves hay muchas cosas y si eres tan poco especifico
con lo que quieres hacer y como lo vas a hacer, es un poco dificil
explicar como ;-)

Z0MBiE / ELiTE (visit us at http://move.to/elite-hq)

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Re: Cable que une 2 ordenadores.

2001-12-08 Thread alex

   El cable con el que he unido los dos ordenadores
 es un cable que en cada uno de sus extremos tiene
 una terminacion bifida, con dos conectores,
 por una parte hay un puerto serie , macho es decir con
 clavijas finitas para meter en agujeros, por otro un
 conector mas grande (¿puede ser paralelo?) con agujeritos
 para que puedan entrar clavijitas, yo lo llamaria hembra.

Por lo que cuentas y lo que se puede entender, a un extremo del
cable hay un conector serie (9 pines supongo aunque deberia ser hembra
:-m) y al otro un conector mas grande, puerto serie supongo tambien (25
pines quizas?), estariamos hablando entonces de un cable para conexiones
serie 'null-modem'. La referencia que haces de serie por un lado y
paralelo por otra no la veo clara, o bien es serie-serie o
paralelo-paralelo, pero no mezclado.

Los cables serie son 25-25 pines, 9-9 pines, o 25-9 pines
(hembra). Los cables pararelo son 25-25 pines (macho). Comprueba de nuevo
a ver de que tipo de cable estamos hablando.

 es simplemente que ambos ordenadores compartan conexion a
 Internet mediante modem (solo tengo uno) y compartan una unica
 impresora. Poco mas, si puedo transferir archivos del uno al
 otro, miel sobre hojuelas.

Para compartir la conexion necesitaras configurar el ipmaskerading
o nat en el equipo que posea el modem. Esto generalmente se hace
recompilando el kernel, activando el ip forward y usando unas lineas de
ipchains / iptables (leete el ipmaskerading howto). La impresora no te
puedo comentar ya que no he  experimentado con impresoras en red, pero
creo que va perfectamente bajo  samba y transferir archivos de uno a otro,
pues por supuesto que podras hacerlo de mil y una maneras (ftp, samba...)
;-)

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Framebuffer

2001-12-08 Thread Ricardo Marcelo Alvarez

Tengo una placa de video Matrox G400 dualhead y compile los modulos del 
kernel para el framebuffer (kernel 2.4.16) alguien sabe si hay que poner en 
el lilo el append=mem=xxxM para reservar la memoria para el framebufer o la 
serie 2.4.xx no hace falta.

Gracias de antemano y saludos.



Re: qvwm nao starta apos instalacao

2001-12-08 Thread Márcio de Araújo Benedito
* Gustavo Noronha Silva ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 20:34:38 -0200
 Márcio de Araújo Benedito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Amigos,
  
  Refiz a instalacao do debian no meu notebook e o qvwm nao que funcionar. 
  Vejam
  a saida do .xsession-errors:
 bem maluco, agora o bicho tá simulando também os paus do windows =),
 debugar isso pode ser um problema um pouco difícil, você está com
 potato mesmo?

Pois e... fui futucando ate melecar o coitado! O caso e que este
notebook foi a primeira instalacao do debian que fiz na vida, e como e
meu instrumento de trabalho nao fiquei mexendo nele para implementar
o que vinha aprendendo neste periodo (por exemplo, como navegar na
internet e acessar a rede local ao mesmo tempo, pois os dois cartoes
pcmcia juntos davam problema).

Com o advento das ferias de escola e o fato de minha esposa trabalhar
ate tarde no comercio, aproveitei para refazer uma nova instalacao.



  O que pode estar errado? As mensagens de erro nao me dizem nada...
 o qvwm está acessando uma área de memória que não é dele... a causa

Hu. Pelo menos ele nao deu tela azul Na verdade eu usava o
window maker neste notebook, mas notei que o qvwm e muito mais rapido
que o wmaker, por isso quero usa-lo.

 disso só usando o gdb pra debugar (mas tem de pegar um binário não
 stripado pra fazer isso

Vixe, falou igual ao medico da Prodabel! Onde eu encontro este
remedio

 []s!


[]'s

China

PS: Este notebook esta comigo a 5 anos, e NUNCA deu problema de
hardware. Este erro de acesso a memoria pode ser o primeiro?



Re: e-mail's nao aparecem

2001-12-08 Thread Pedro Zorzenon Neto
On Sun, Jan 28, 1979 at 09:37:34PM -0300, Rodrigo wrote:
 Ola a todos:
 
   O meu problema comecou assim, apos alguns meses de briga com as 
 configracoes, eu nao conseguia fazer o e-mail sair com o meu dominio, passei 
 uma semana lendo docs do mutt e sendmail, mas eu nao consegui.
   Resolvi remover o sendmail e ele tinha como dependencia o mutt e o 
 mailx, apos terminado reinstalei com o apt com sucesso, e configurei o 
 sendmail na instalcao coisa que nao havia feito na primeira vez, e reistalei 
 tambem o mutt e o mailx, otimo testei e o problema havia sido resolvido, isso 
 ontem (06/12), desliguei a maq.
   Hoje (07/12) liguei a maq, e digitei fetchmail, tudo sem problema 
 resgatou os e-mail's uns 40, depois digitei mutt e nao havia nenhum e-mail 
 novo, olhei os diretorios: /var/mail, /var/spool/mail e o arquivo mbox e nada 
 todos com os e-mail do dia 06/12.
   Removi o fetchmail, com o apt pedi para reinstalar mas nao deu certo 
 tive de dar um apt-get update, para pegar o fetchmail atualizado, apos o 
 procedimento tudo correu bem, o fetchmail baixou os e-mails, e nada o mutt 
 nao os mostra, nao aparecem nos arquivos /var/mail; /var/spool/mail e mbox do 
 meu usuario.
 
 []s
 
 Rodrigo

Olá Rodrigo,

O fetchmail puxa os e-mails do servidor e manda para o smtp-local
(sendmail, exim, outros...) e é o smtp-local que coloca o e-mail em um
arquivo no sistema, geralmente em ~mail/username

tente instalar o exim como smtp-local. se você usa conexão discada com o
provedor, escolha assim no eximconfig:

  opção 2 - smarthost
  
  tecle enter (resposta default em várias perguntas seguintes)
  
  Which machine will act as the smarthost and handle outgoing mail?
  coloque o smtp do seu provedor (geralmente smtp.provedor.com.br)

  Which user account(s) should system administrator mail go to ?
  Enter one or more usernames separated by spaces or commas .  Enter
  `none' if you want to leave this mail in `root's mailbox - NB this
  is strongly discouraged.  Also, note that usernames should be lowercase!
  Enter value (`x' to restart): 
  coloque seu login

  pronto... tá configurado o exim.

para seu e-mail sair com o seu dominio, você deve editar o arquivo
/etc/email-addresses na forma que tem de exemplo nele. é fácil. fica uma
linha assim:

seuloginlocal: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Editando este arquivo, o exim trocará o e-mail na hora de enviar.

  Boa sorte,
  Abraços
Pedro



Caras, ainda nao consigo ver acentos no mutt!

2001-12-08 Thread Márcio de Araújo Benedito
Os aplicativos para console todos estao mostrando os acentos
corretamente, e o mutt nao. Os locales e os charteset ja estao
configurados, mas o mutt nao mostra, mostra uma ? no lugar do caracter,
de formas que o não vira n?o!

O que fazer

[]'s

China

PS: estou ha dois dias com o notebook em modo texto, navegando e
trocando correio. It's cool!



Re: qvwm nao starta apos instalacao

2001-12-08 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
On Sat, 8 Dec 2001 11:14:16 -0200
Márcio de Araújo Benedito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 * Gustavo Noronha Silva ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 20:34:38 -0200
  Márcio de Araújo Benedito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   O que pode estar errado? As mensagens de erro nao me dizem nada...
  o qvwm está acessando uma área de memória que não é dele... a causa
 
 Hu. Pelo menos ele nao deu tela azul Na verdade eu usava o
 window maker neste notebook, mas notei que o qvwm e muito mais rapido
 que o wmaker, por isso quero usa-lo.
eu sugiro que você dê uma olhada no icewm, prefiro ele ao qvwm

  disso só usando o gdb pra debugar (mas tem de pegar um binário não
  stripado pra fazer isso
 
 Vixe, falou igual ao medico da Prodabel! Onde eu encontro este
 remedio
heh, você tem de pegar o fonte do qvwm, compilar (pode ser do jeito Debian)
e usar o arquivo compilado que fica na árvore de compilação com o gdb
porque ele tem símbolos de debugging

 PS: Este notebook esta comigo a 5 anos, e NUNCA deu problema de
 hardware. Este erro de acesso a memoria pode ser o primeiro?
pode, mas duvido, acho mais certo ser o qvwm dando tilt mesmo

[]s!

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Re: Caras, ainda nao consigo ver acentos no mutt!

2001-12-08 Thread Pedro Zorzenon Neto
On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 11:30:52AM -0200, Márcio de Araújo Benedito wrote:
 Os aplicativos para console todos estao mostrando os acentos
 corretamente, e o mutt nao. Os locales e os charteset ja estao
 configurados, mas o mutt nao mostra, mostra uma ? no lugar do caracter,
 de formas que o não vira n?o!
 
 O que fazer

você não consegue ler ou escrever mensagens acentuadas ou ambos?

se o problema for ler, faça o seguinte:

pare em cima de uma mensagem que tem o problema, mas não entre nela.
pressione e para editar a mensagem.

procure por um cabeçalho assim:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=alguma-coisa

edite e mude para:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

depois saia do modo de edição e veja a mensagem novamente.

resolveu?

se sim, então a culpa é de quem mandou a mensagem com o charset errado.
O que o mutt faz é seguir o que chegou nos headers.

Espero que isso ajude...

  Abraços
  Pedro



Re: Python é um dialeto de LISP

2001-12-08 Thread Leandro G Faria Corsetti Dutra

Pablo Lorenzzoni wrote:



	Eh claro. A mesma logica de programacao das linguagens de nivel 
muito alto existe em ambas mas na propria comparacao do 



	Muito pelo contrário, enquanto Python é orientada a objetos (e portanto 
procedural) Lisp (e sua derivada Scheme) são lógica de listas.  Nada a ver.


	Nem a questão de alto ou baixo nível se aplica direito... Lisp ao mesmo 
tempo em que nem sintaxe tem -- e portanto poderia ser nível 
super-baixo, a rigor programa-se quase já na estrutura do próprio 
compilador -- também pode ser considerada de nível muito mais alto que 
qualquer linguagem procedural, até mesmo por não ter sintaxe, pela 
tipagem dinâmica e porque tudo são funções e listas, prestando-se à 
construção de abstrações progressivamente; por outro lado, Python é 
orientado a objetos, que deveria ser o cúmulo da abstração mas em 
algumas áreas ao menos, como bancos de dados, acaba favorecendo uma 
mentalidade voltada à implementação e não à lógica, portanto de baixo nível.





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Re: Caras, ainda nao consigo ver acentos no mutt!

2001-12-08 Thread Carlos Laviola
On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 11:30:52AM -0200, Márcio de Araújo Benedito wrote:
 Os aplicativos para console todos estao mostrando os acentos
 corretamente, e o mutt nao. Os locales e os charteset ja estao
 configurados, mas o mutt nao mostra, mostra uma ? no lugar do caracter,
 de formas que o não vira n?o!

Tenta usar as seguintes configurações:

LANG=en_US
LANGUAGE=en_US
LC_ALL=en_US

(do meu /etc/environment, é global pro sistema).

e isso no seu ~/.muttrc ou /etc/Muttrc:

set charset=iso-8859-1

Deve funcionar.  Já tive o mesmo problema que você e consertei assim.

 PS: estou ha dois dias com o notebook em modo texto, navegando e
 trocando correio. It's cool!

:-)

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Re: e-mail's nao aparecem

2001-12-08 Thread Marcio Roberto Teixeira
Em Sun, Jan 28, 1979 at 09:37:34PM -0300, Rodrigo escreveu:
 Ola a todos:

Olá

   O meu problema comecou assim, apos alguns meses de briga com as 
 configracoes, eu nao conseguia fazer o e-mail sair com o meu dominio, passei 
 uma semana lendo docs do mutt e sendmail, mas eu nao consegui.
   Resolvi remover o sendmail e ele tinha como dependencia o mutt e o 
 mailx, apos terminado reinstalei com o apt com sucesso, e configurei o 
 sendmail na instalcao coisa que nao havia feito na primeira vez, e reistalei 
 tambem o mutt e o mailx, otimo testei e o problema havia sido resolvido, isso 
 ontem (06/12), desliguei a maq.
   Hoje (07/12) liguei a maq, e digitei fetchmail, tudo sem problema 
 resgatou os e-mail's uns 40, depois digitei mutt e nao havia nenhum e-mail 
 novo, olhei os diretorios: /var/mail, /var/spool/mail e o arquivo mbox e nada 
 todos com os e-mail do dia 06/12.
   Removi o fetchmail, com o apt pedi para reinstalar mas nao deu certo 
 tive de dar um apt-get update, para pegar o fetchmail atualizado, apos o 
 procedimento tudo correu bem, o fetchmail baixou os e-mails, e nada o mutt 
 nao os mostra, nao aparecem nos arquivos /var/mail; /var/spool/mail e mbox do 
 meu usuario.

Uma sugestão, colega: não é uma boa política de administração do sistema
desinstalar e reinstalar pacotes. Tente descobrir qual é o problema e
resolvê-lo.

Sobre o problema. Envie, se existir, os arquivos .fetchmail e .procmail,
além dos log's do sistema de e-mail (procure em /var/log).

Muito provavelmente o fetchmail está entregando as mensagens em /var/spool/mail
e o procmail, filtrando-as e enviando para outra pasta. Sabendo que pasta
é esta, basta configurar o mutt para acessá-la.

Aguardamos os arquivos.

p.s.: não esqueça de, no .fetchmail, colocar nomes de contas e senhas
fictícias, para evitar problemas de segurança.
 
 []s
 
 Rodrigo

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Re: mutt nao mostra acentos no xterm

2001-12-08 Thread Victor Maida
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 14:10:17 -0200
Márcio de Araújo Benedito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Colegas,
 
 
 O mutt aqui nao esta mostrando acentos no xterm. O X esta perfeitamente
 configurado para acentuacao e os ç e ã aparecem no xterm normalmente,
 mas na hora de ler uma mensagem com algum caracter especial somente e
 mostrado um ? no lugar. Desta forma o não vira n?o!!!
 
 O man muttrc fala do set charset=iso-8859-1, mas o meu .muttrc ja esta
 assim.
 
 O curioso e que este .muttrc aqui e o mesmo do trampo, e la eu vejo os
 acentos
 
 O que fazer?

O meu .muttrc não contém o set charset=iso-8859-1 e os acentos são 
mostrados normalmente.

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Re: HPT370 and other errors :-(

2001-12-08 Thread Anthony Lau
Hello,

On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 10:21:24PM +0100, Josef Oswald wrote:
 I installed a IDE Controller Card with HPT370 chip from
 http://www.highpoint-tech.com 
 sold as 
 Davicontrol DC-100 Raid 

I have a Abit KT7-RAID which uses the same controller.

 http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/current/udma100-ext3/
 plainly called _linux_

Why not make the rescue floppy from this? This will boot and 
you will have hD's again. 

 so then I got me the kernel-image-2.2.19-ide 
 
 using this time the command # dpkg -i kernel-image-2.2.19.ide
 
 there were _NO_ error messages, so I figured that it installed okay,
 but to my surprise, there were again error messages, this time no
 /lib/modules/2.2.19-ide can't be found, _even_ though there are
 _there_ ???

I'm not sure what is going on here. Maybe slightly different
kernel name?

Anthony



Re: nvidia drivers kernel 2.4.14

2001-12-08 Thread Brian Clark
* David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Dec 07. 2001 18:42]:

 Ijust bought a 32MB  nVidia TNT 2 card, and I run Woody with a
 fairly late 2.4 kernel. Am I going to have trouble? Xfree claims to
 support this card in X 4.0 
 
 Am I in for it, as Mother used to say?

I've used a 32Mb nVidia TNT2 on several different distributions,
including Debian, with 2.2.x and 2.4.x kernels without any problems.

I doubt you'll have much trouble..

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Re: Is it possible to convert a debian source package to a tar b

2001-12-08 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

On 08-Dec-2001 scott worley wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I've been reading the man pages on dpkg  dpkg-deb to find out if it's
 possible to covert the deb source directory:
 
 foo-x.y.z.orig
   debian-dir with all the patches
   upstream-source-dir
 
 to a source tar ball with all patches applied?
 
 dpkg  dpkg-deb man pages talk about build rules being applied but the
 result is still a deb.  I guess I could manually try to extract the
 patches from the files in debian dir but for the package in question
 there are quite a few.  Is there a tool to just apply the patches to the
 upstream source so I could then tar ball it?
 

this is not how Debian packages exist.  Each source has a orig.tar.gz, a .dsc,
and a .diff.gz.  The diff is every difference between the upstream and Debian. 
So to get what you want simply:

dpkg-source -x foo.dsc
tar czvf foo.version.tgz foo-version/

Now, some packages do actually have patches in the debian dir, but this is not
standard.



Re: Netscape 6.2

2001-12-08 Thread Craig Dickson
DvB wrote:

 Personally, I suggest using mozilla instead... NS6.2 is an older version
 of Mozilla with netscape commercial stuff included.
 I would probably suggest it over NS4.77 though I can't remember how good
 that version of mozilla was.

I think Netscape 6.2 is Mozilla 0.9.3. Definitely better than any 4.x
version of Netscape, but inferior to Mozilla 0.9.6, which is quite nice.

Craig



Re: Movie players in certain Linuxes , O God !

2001-12-08 Thread Robert Storey
I've found that if I don't have a sound card installed and set up with
the proper drivers, many of the movie players totally screw up -
distorted pictures, slow speed, crashes, etc. Sometimes you'll see an
error message saying there is a missing sound driver, but sometimes
not. Installing the sound card and its drivers fixes the problem. So
if you're having this problem and you do have a sound card installed,
you might want to look at the driver and see if it's correct.

 - Robert Storey
 

On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 07:46:49 +1100 (EST)
Steve Kieu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  There are certain movie
 players in certain Linuxes ,
  that are horrendously pathetic .
  It is something like this :



Re: Something more user friendly than XMMS?

2001-12-08 Thread Preben Randhol
dman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/12/2001 (07:56) :
 Have they ever used WinAMP?  Most people I know (who have/use
 computers) use winamp (well, most of them have windows) and don't have
 trouble with it.

Winamp on Linux? No, they don't use Windows at all. 

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Re: Key words, please [was: Newbie comments queries]Newbie #61

2001-12-08 Thread Ian Balchin
Wendell  Andrew,

I take the point that you are making, but I had retained the 
original header for a specific reason.

It is obvious that many posts to the list are from experienced 
linux users querying relatively obstruse points who are not, as I 
am, a first-time user with linux experience measured in single 
digit numbers of weeks still. Regretfully, therefore, only my own 
posts and replies thereto are of interest to me at present. I can 
contribute nothing to others and cannot even understand their 
problems at this stage.

Under this header several people have rallied to provide valuable 
assistance for which I am so grateful you could not even begin to 
imagine. Thanks to Brenda, Karsten, dman, and others, I shall get 
my Linux email box up and running whatever the headers on my 
posts.

From my point of view there are two factors. One is that i live in 
the third world effectively 1000 miles up a 2000 mile dirt road, 
with a slow dial up connection which seldom exceeds 24000 bps (our 
local isp does not have even a 56k modem rack as hardly anybody 
even reaches 33.6k connections even. Cable modems and even ISDN 
are pie in the sky for most people here.  Secondly, my line is so 
noisy I am sometimes not able to connect to my ISP for several 
days and when I do many many hundreds of emails await me. This 
last weekend it took over a minute to download even one email and 
I had to give up with over 400 waiting in the queue. I cannot read 
all of these messages en-masse and so filter out and delete 
anyhing other than those with my standard header.

I thought that this was a reasonable solution. However, I have 
given the matter some thought and will see if a new header scheme 
will be more effective and useful to all.

Regards
Ian
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Re: Something more user friendly than XMMS?

2001-12-08 Thread Preben Randhol
csj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/12/2001 (07:56) :

 What's bad about the XMMS interface? I see the standard cassette player 
 controls. The way I see it, your first problem should be getting a good 
 desktop environment. If your father and sister can live with any 
 existing Linux desktop or window manager (KDE, GNOME, Blackbox, IceWM, 
 etc) they can survive XMMS.

This doesn't make sense at all. What is your point exactly? They have
been using Gnome for 1 year, but what does that have to do with that
XMMS is not user friendly for all users? 

 Anyway, you can try loading an XMMS skin. The Debian package, 

I think I would have to make a skin.

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Re: Something more user friendly than XMMS?

2001-12-08 Thread Preben Randhol
Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/12/2001 (07:56) :
   what I see as a problem is management of the actual files and
 playlists.

Yes this is the biggest problem.

   I find freeAmp much better from this perspective - the skins are a lot
 better implemented (more flexible) and you have the MyMusic dialog where
 you can find all the music on the computer, categorize it by various
 criteria, easily create playlists etc.

Yes I agree the problem is that freeamp crashes a lot.
 
   there's also a digital DJ, you put all the stuff into DB and then you
 can query it (using simple dialogs, IMO it's usable by beginners) to
 play music... IIRC grip (ripper) puts the ripper tracks into digital
 DJ's db.

I'll check that out.

Preben
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Re: 2.4.16 kernel crashed

2001-12-08 Thread Preben Randhol
George Dancheff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/12/2001 (07:56) :
 which version of gcc did you use to compile the
 kernel. 3.X doesn't produce stable code yet , so
 fallback to 2.95.3  2.95.4 for the time being.

Hmm I thought 2.95, but I'll check. Anyway it sound like the explanation
about new DRI and GL hogging all system resources is very plausable.

Preben
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Re: 2.4.16 kernel crashed

2001-12-08 Thread Preben Randhol
Dmitriy Kropivnitskiy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/12/2001 (07:56) :
 I have been using 2.4.16 since it came out and hadn't had a single problem.
 On the other hand xscreensaver and xlock has always been trouble. A crashed GL
 application sometimes will leave your video card in such a mess that even 
 kiling X right from under it will not reinitialize it. Generally this would 
 noy affect ability to remotely connect unless the GL application didn't crash 
 but instead is hogging system resources. I haven't seen this happen with 
 xscreensaver, but xlock had done similar things to me a few times. So, I 
 don't really believe that this is related to kernel version, although since 
 DRI support has been rewritten in 2.4 series, that might cause some trouble.

Hmm this sound like the reason. I'll test is. I use the 2.4 now and I'll
remove GL screensaver and use a normal. Thanks.

Preben
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Re: how to save my setting of window maker

2001-12-08 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 05:57:39PM +0800, Yu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 I set an icon of mozilla and rxvt on the right dock of my desktop on my
 woody box
 and then I disable the keep on top option
 but when I reboot ,window maker didn't remenber my setting and return to
 the origin setting
 What's wrong with my debian box ,
 is there any suggestion
 thanks

In the root applications menu, Workspaces = Save Session.

This will save your current session state.

Using WPrefs, you can explicitly request WindowMaker save session on
exit.

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Re: Something more user friendly than XMMS?

2001-12-08 Thread Craig Holyoak
Jeffrey W. Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 XMMS is very hard to use at 120 dpi and totally invisible at 200 dpi.

You can magnify xmms's interface by going doublesize (Ctrl-D) which I
guess would help if you have trouble seeing it at higher resolutions.

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Re: how to disable gnome panel

2001-12-08 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 10:16:42PM +1100, Andrew Sione Taumoefolau ([EMAIL 
PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 06:02:59PM +0800, Yu wrote:
  I want to use window maker as my window manager and I also install gnome
  on my woody box
  but it's to crowded with window maker dock and gnome panel together .
  So I want to disable my gnome panel.
  but I read the help document ,it says I must have one panel on my
  desktop
  Is apt-remove the only to get rid of gnome panel?
  Is there any other way to disable gnome panel not to uninstall it?
  Thanks
 
 Are you using a display manager, like gdm or xdm? (that is, do you have a
 graphical login?) Or do you start X from the console with startx? If the
 latter, just edit .xsession in your home directory so it contains
 
   wmaker
 
 and whatever other programs you'd like to run at startup -- ie,
 
   wmaker
   nautilus 
 
 If you're using GDM or something similar you'll need app-specific
 instructions. So, let the list know where you're at :).
 
 That said, there's not much point in having the Gnome panel installed if
 you're not planning on using it :).

True.

My problem with numerous GNOME apps (goats comes to mind) is that they
start the panel.  This is one of several extremely annoying GNOME
behaviors.  Any possibility to override?

Peace.

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Re: Manager for software in /usr/local

2001-12-08 Thread Sridhar M.A.
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 11:42:47PM -0600, Lance Simmons wrote:

The author says you should install it, then use it to make a deb of
itself and reinstall it using the deb.

   But I downloaded the deb of checkinstall from the home site. It also
   included install watch which checkinstall uses. If building from
   sources, I think we need to download both checkinstall and
   installwatch.

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Re: Netscape 6.2

2001-12-08 Thread CaT
On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 12:34:25AM -0500, Alec wrote:
 Is Netscape 6.2 any good? Is it worth installing? Any reason to prefer it to 
 Netscape 4.77? How is it different from Mozilla?

I haven't used Netscape in months. I find mozilla far more stable and
capable. Major downside is that it does seem to suck more ram and cpu
then netscape.

Netscape 6.2 is based off a slightly older release of mozilla and has
propriatery bits added (aswell as extra bugfixes for that version and so
on). I've found no real reason to choose Netscape 6.x (x=1) over
Mozilla... except maybe the Toyfactory theme (which last I tried it did
not work due to the changes in the API involved).

If you already have java, realplayer, acrobat reader or flash installed
then mozilla might be the better bet for you due to the smaller
download.

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Re: HPT370 and other errors :-(

2001-12-08 Thread Josef Oswald
Hi :-) 

Anthony Lau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello,
 
 On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 10:21:24PM +0100, Josef Oswald wrote:
  I installed a IDE Controller Card with HPT370 chip from
  http://www.highpoint-tech.com 
  sold as 
  Davicontrol DC-100 Raid 
 
 I have a Abit KT7-RAID which uses the same controller.
 
  http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/current/udma100-ext3/
  plainly called _linux_
 
 Why not make the rescue floppy from this? This will boot and 
 you will have hD's again. 
 
  so then I got me the kernel-image-2.2.19-ide 
  
  using this time the command # dpkg -i kernel-image-2.2.19.ide
  
  there were _NO_ error messages, so I figured that it installed okay,
  but to my surprise, there were again error messages, this time no
  /lib/modules/2.2.19-ide can't be found, _even_ though there are
  _there_ ???
 
 I'm not sure what is going on here. Maybe slightly different
 kernel name?

Well being a newbie :-) I overlooked that in the same directory where
I got the kernel named _linux_ from, there is/was also a file called
_drivers.tgz_  

Now I got it, unpacked, installed the drivers and the error-message
about missing modules are gone :-) But still there is one more Problem
and this is really nasty since I can't shutdown the PC with 
# shutdown -h now.  

During the Boot-up there is this Message:

/etc/init.d/rc: 2 command not found

when I login ( its possible only as root) there is another Message: 

#Still in Boot up process please wait

any hints are deeply appreciated :-) 

thanks :-) 

 
 Anthony

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Re: Debian ethernet networking

2001-12-08 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 07:45:35PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:

 I am having the darnest time getting my first Debian  machine(s) /
 ethernet network set up...Debian Potato... I cannot figure out what
 script or configuration file to put the 'route -add ...' commands in? 

You don't.

What have you tried?  What has/hasn't worked?

Under Debian, you enter values for address, netmask, network, broadcast,
and gateway into /etc/network/interfaces.  Everything else happens
automajickally.

RTFM ifup, ifdown, ifupdown.

Peace.

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Re: Kabelmodem unter Debian

2001-12-08 Thread Josef Oswald
Leitwarte [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Ich habe folgendes Problem.

posting to a English-speaking News-group?

OK :-) that being out of the way:-)

Did you disable PNP on the card (I got a similar situation with a
3com 3c509-TPO and cable? 

If no, then that could cause your problem...since that card works in
the Win environment...

Sorry that is the only solution I can think of, and if this is really
the problem let me know :-) 

 
 Ich wohne in den Niederlanden und habe dort einen Kabelanschluss als
 Internetanbindung.
 Ich habe zwei Netzwerkkarten von 3com ,die beide installiert sind und
 auch funktionieren.
 Eine Karte  (eth0)ist für das Intranet die andere (eth1) als
 Internetanschluss an ein com21
 Modem.
 Der Provider vergibt die IP - Adressen dynamisch also dhcp.Ich habe dann
 auch in der
 Datei Interfaces eth1 als dhcp eingetragen und dhcpcd installiert.
 Beim Hochlaufen des Systems spricht die eth1 auch das Modem com21 an,
 weil beide
 Lampen flackern, dann aber bricht der Vorgang ab und das Modem reagiert
 nicht mehr.Ich
 habe in resolv Datei die Nameserver eingetragen und in Interfaces das
 Gteway des Providers.
 Ich habe auch eine Datei gefunden, in der alle Daten des Prviders
 standen nebst meiner zugewiesenen
 IP - Adresse. Trotzdem kann ich das Modem nicht ansprechen.
 Unter Windows Nt funktioniert der Zugan reibungslos.


 
 Im Voraus vielen Dank für den richtigen Tip.
 
 Wolfgang Sachse

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Re: login + passwd for 30 users

2001-12-08 Thread Greg Wiley
on Friday, December 07, 2001 4:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 does any script exist, which creates 30 users automaticaly,
 with the list of 30 persons containing their name, christian name, etc...
 instead of using 30 times adduser ?

It's been a number of hours so you've probably entered
them already, but try using useradd instead.  It takes
its parameters from the command line so you could easily
loop through a file read in sh and populate the command
options.

  -=greg





Re: SNAT or MASQUERADE?

2001-12-08 Thread mdevin
On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 12:48:13AM -0600, Jor-el wrote:
 On Sat, 1 Dec 2001, David B Harris wrote:
 
  On Sun, 2 Dec 2001 11:36:20 +1000,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  SNAT would be. However, you better make sure that each time the IP
  address of your interface changes, your firewall script runs. You could
  do this in Debian by putting your firewall script in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/.
  But also please keep in mind that your firewall rules should be put in
  place *before* any external interfaces are brought on-line.
  
   Isnt this assuming that the internet connection uses ppp?
 Cablemodem, for instance, doesnt use ppp at all - a fact that seems to
 have escaped the maintainer of the dhcpcd package too. How would one solve
 this problem in the case of cablemodem?
 
I understand that you are using dhclient from a subsequent post of
yours.

If you wanted to re-run part of your firewall to reconfigure for a
change in IP address with a cable connection then you could look into
the following:

Firstly, I don't have a cable connection, but I did set one up on a
friends computer recently.  I can't remember all the details now, but I
do remember that dhclient provided some hooks for doing things when
certain conditions were met.  For example, it is possible with dhclient
to check the new IP address assigned and compare this to the old one and
only have the firewall script run if the new IP address has changed.
This would mean that even if dhclient lost the connection and had to
reconnect, it would rarely have to re-run the firewall script for a
cable connection (where IP rarely changes).

Sorry I can't remember the name of the file to put these config details
in to do this stuff, but if you read the documentation with dhclient
then you will figure it out.  Hey, I did :-)

Anyway, I guess the point is, that you can do the same with dhclient,
and in a more configurable way.

Cheers.
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Re: Kabelmodem unter Debian

2001-12-08 Thread Josef Oswald
Josef Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Leitwarte [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Ich habe folgendes Problem.
 
 Did you disable PNP on the card (I got a similar situation with a
 3com 3c509-TPO and cable? 
 
 If no, then that could cause your problem...since that card works in
 the Win environment...

Sorry; forgot to mention that in case you do disable pnp on the card,
you need to change the setting in the Bios  for that particular
IRQ from PNP to NON-PNP as well... 

 
 Sorry that is the only solution I can think of, and if this is really
 the problem let me know :-) 
 
  
  Im Voraus vielen Dank für den richtigen Tip.
  
  Wolfgang Sachse

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Re: how to disable gnome panel

2001-12-08 Thread Andrew Sione Taumoefolau
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 11:18:53PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
 My problem with numerous GNOME apps (goats comes to mind) is that they
 start the panel.  This is one of several extremely annoying GNOME
 behaviors.  Any possibility to override?

Maybe you're having this problem because goats isn't a GNOME app
proper, but a panel applet? Other panel applets have the same
(irritating) behaviour, but I've never encountered it in any real
GNOME applications.

I'm not sure if this is something you can override. Probably not,
unfortunately. If you're averse to running the panel for screen
real-estate rather than memory considerations you could create a tiny
little floating panel that contained only goats... I probably wouldn't
even if I could, though, it's a pretty sensibilities-offending prospect
:).

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Re: how to disable gnome panel

2001-12-08 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 07:38:39PM +1100, Andrew Sione Taumoefolau ([EMAIL 
PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 11:18:53PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
  My problem with numerous GNOME apps (goats comes to mind) is that they
  start the panel.  This is one of several extremely annoying GNOME
  behaviors.  Any possibility to override?
 
 Maybe you're having this problem because goats isn't a GNOME app
 proper, but a panel applet? 

I believe it's an applet, though it doesn't advertise it as same:

Package: goats
Priority: extra
Section: x11
Installed-Size: 293
Maintainer: KiHyeon Seo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Architecture: i386
Version: 0.6-1
Description: A sticky-note type program for Gnome
 Goats is a yellow post-it note applet for the Gnome desktop.
 .
 It's modelled after Knotes for KDE, and is also similar to
 gnome-gnotes. Goats features alarms, autosaving and more..

...though that does suggest maybe I want to look at
gnome-gnoteswhich doesn't exist.

Feh!

 Other panel applets have the same (irritating) behaviour, but I've
 never encountered it in any real GNOME applications.

It's more than one applet I've encountered that does this.  KDE's apps
don't seem to have the same behavior.

 I'm not sure if this is something you can override. Probably not,
 unfortunately. If you're averse to running the panel for screen
 real-estate rather than memory considerations you could create a tiny
 little floating panel that contained only goats... I probably wouldn't
 even if I could, though, it's a pretty sensibilities-offending prospect
 :).

It's not so much the memory (thought that's an issue), it's just a
matter of environment / desktop control.  I don't like GNOME.  There are
a few apps which are reasonable.  I'll use them.  Loading the entire
environment for a single goddamned little utility is a joke though.

There's a distinction between integration and interoperability I'd
thought we'd learned in the 1990s.

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looping symlink = reboot ?

2001-12-08 Thread nate
im not sure who to mail on this, so i figure best to
start with a general mailing list for some pointers.

Basic problem, never happened to me before, on 2
of my systems, when attempting to access a symlink
that points back to itself crashes the system. either
a reboot(4/5 cases) or a lockup(1/5). I first
encountered it today when trying to scp a directory
tree to another system. caused a reboot on the
system doing the scp'n. Then i rsync'd the same
directory tree to another system and it worked fine.
then i attempted another scp -r and it rebooted
the system. so i tried it again, and it rebooted
the system at the exact same point. i went to
the console and did it again and it locked up
hard. i scp'd it to another system and it rebooted
again.

eventually i traced it down to these particular
2 systems(i don't have many systems to crash
to test). It hit me when i copied the directory
tree to an ext2 partition(from reiserfs) and
tried a scp -r and it worked fine. i noticed
at the EXACT point where it crashed on reiserfs,
the ext2 filesystem spit out a buncha
too many levels of symbolic links or something.
so i looked at the file and it was a simple
symlink back to itself:

blah - blah

i tried to do a ls -l blaTAB FILENAME COMPLETION
system rebooted again.

so i thought it was reiserfs. so i ssh'd to a machine
at home and tried it, no crash, no errors. behaved
as expected(same as ext2). so i thought maybe it
was the 3ware raid driver(!), so i went to another
system that has a raid1 array(opposed to raid10
on the affected systems) and it also uses reiserfs,
and no problem.

all of them are running virtually identical kernels,
all are 2.2.19 with the same reiserfs patch
3.something. all machines are running potato.
no other problems otherwise(been using the same
kernels since june). the only differences are
minor configuration changes depending on
the hardware in the machine and it's purpose.

im at a loss as to who i should attempt to
contact to attempt to find a resolution to
this problem.

so i suppose my next test will be to
re allocate the swap partition on the raid
array as an ext2 filesystem and see if it
locks up.

has anyone ever heard of a controller driver
possibly affecting filesystem access like this?

oh, and there is no logs, the console showed
nothing when i was at it(locked hard), and
i have it logging to a remote syslog
server, and it shows nothing.

oh and as for why there is a looping symlink
i don't know. i didn't create the directory
tree, i was just trying to migrate it to another
machine.


nate





Re: program balks at 3.9GB file

2001-12-08 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 10:27:48PM +0800, csj ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 lav2wav +p /xb/base/input-20011207-1948.avi | mp2enc -o audio.mp2
INFO: Norm set to PAL
 **ERROR: Error opening /xb/base/input-20011207-1948.avi: File too large
 **ERROR: EOF in WAV header
 **ERROR: failure reading WAV file
 
 The program comes from a package which claims to have large file 
 support, which I enabled at compilation:
 
 mjpegtools-1.5-20011611$ ./configure --help | grep large
   --disable-large-file, disable large file support (2GB)
 
 My question: is it the OS or the program's fault? If it means anything, 
 other programs (all encoders) return a more generic Could not open 
 error message. What puzzles me is that I was able to create the file 
 thru another program (xawtv's streamer).
 
 I'm running kernel 2.4.16 with libc6 (2.2.4-5). What do I need to do to 
 eliminate this error? Any tips appreciated. The multi-GB file is 
 desperately awaiting compression.

Large file support is a complex situation, not something you can just
turn on and off.  Essentially, the problem is that all parts of the
process chain have to support it.

Not familiar with the tools you're using, but you might want to try
doing other operations on a large file or files to see what does or
doesn't work with it.  Is your program invoking another application
which may not have LF support?

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Re: login + passwd for 30 users

2001-12-08 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 12:57:19AM +, Gerard Robin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 Hello,
 does any script exist, which creates 30 users automaticaly,
 with the list of 30 persons containing their name, christian name, etc...
 instead of using 30 times adduser ?

There's the newusers command, which can be passed an input file.  The
format's a bit complex, so I've written a helper script to generate
appropriate input.

It's called newusers.awk, which takes as input a file in the form:

first-name last-name password

The invocation argument is:

./newusers.awk starting userID input file

Attached.

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# Script to create a file suitable for use in the 'newusers' command,
# from a file consisting of user IDs and passwords in the form:
# First Last password
# Copyright (c) KMSelf Sat Aug 25 20:47:38 PDT 2001
# Distributed under GNU GPL v 2, or at your option, any later version.
# This program is distributed WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY.

BEGIN {
# Assign starting UID, GID
if ( ARGC  2 ) {
startuid = ARGV[1]
delete ARGV[1]
}
else {
printf( Usage:  newusers startUID file\n \
  ...where startUID is the starting userid to add, and file is \n \
  an input file in form first name last name password\n \
)

exit
}

infile = ARGV[1]
printf( Starting UID: %s\n\n, startuid )
}

/^#/ { next }

{
++record
first = $1
last = $2
passwd = $3
user= substr( tolower( first ), 1, 1 ) tolower( last )
uid = startuid + record - 1
gid = uid
printf( %s:%s:%d:%d:%s %s,,/home/%s:/bin/bash\n,  \
user, passwd, uid, gid, first, last, user \
)
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Re: Does anyone know a good X windows documentation

2001-12-08 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 02:46:10AM +0100, der der ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 For example setting up the video card, monitor 

Walking through the installation is suggested.  There are several
HOWTOs.

 and the differences between the different window managers...

WindowMaker blows them all away ;-)

Seriously, the usual suspects are probably GNOME, KDE, and everything
else, with the last category being large, but including WindowMaker,
Enlightenment (aka E), fvwm2, blackbox, sawfish, and several other
window managers.

  - GNOME / KDE:  if you are familiar with legacy MS Windows and like a
full-featured desktop, probably a good starting point.

  - WindowMaker, Enlightenment:  somewhat intermediate between window
managers and integrated desktops.  Provide some features not
typically found in window managers, but not the full crushing weight
of KDE/GNOME.  WindowMaker's custimizations tend toward greater
usability, E's toward extreme graphical extravagence.

  - fvwm / scwm:  highly configurable window managers, more popular with
programmers.  Can be tweaked beyond all recognition.

  - blackbox / sawfish:  aimed as GNOME-compatible WMs.  A bit on the
light side feature wise (compared to Wmaker  E), but generally
nice.  I miss a few features.

A good overview of many different window managers can be found at the
Window Managers for X page:

http://www.plig.org/xwinman/

Note that there's a world of difference between looking at static
screenshots and actually using a window manager.  On one of my boxes I
keep a slew of WMs installed just to check them out from time to time. 

Peace.

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Re: Netscape 6.2

2001-12-08 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 12:34:25AM -0500, Alec ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 Is Netscape 6.2 any good? Is it worth installing? Any reason to prefer
 it to Netscape 4.77? How is it different from Mozilla?

I'd far and away recommend Galeon.  Mozilla and Konqueror round out the
top of the full-featured browser offerings for GNU/Linux.  All three are
feature-rich, standards compliant, stable, and extremely useable.
Galeon's got polish and an attention to user-friendly detail which
simply inspires awe and gratitude.

Netscape 4.x is a buggy, standards-busting, festering load of crap.  It
was one of the worst things to happen to GNU/Linux -- the browsing
experience is one of the more important aspects of personal computing,
and we lagged the legacy MS Windows / Mac world for years.  I'd give
odds to say we're starting to lead again.

Peace.

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Re: how to disable gnome panel

2001-12-08 Thread Andrew Sione Taumoefolau
On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 01:23:29AM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
 ...though that does suggest maybe I want to look at
 gnome-gnoteswhich doesn't exist.

Bad news, gnotes is actually another applet (it's in gnome-applets) :).

 It's not so much the memory (thought that's an issue), it's just a
 matter of environment / desktop control.  I don't like GNOME.  There are
 a few apps which are reasonable.  I'll use them.  Loading the entire
 environment for a single goddamned little utility is a joke though.

I think restricting panel applets to running within the panel is a
reasonable move, as most would probably not make much sense running outside
of it, and probably depend on the panel in strange and mysterious ways.
I think the problem here is that goats (and other apps that have had the
same problem, assuming [probably dangerously :)] that our problem is
that these panel-loading apps are indeed panel applets) should be a
proper, full-fledged application that has panel representation if the
user requests it, rather than a top-heavy panel app.

 There's a distinction between integration and interoperability I'd
 thought we'd learned in the 1990s.

Hey, we're still making usability errors that the Mac got right almost
twenty years ago. We learn slow :).

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Re: Newbie comments queries

2001-12-08 Thread Stig Brautaset
* Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com spake thus:
  Could be I just did it wrong.  Maybe the
  echo foo  /dev/ttyS0
  method doesn't have any way to say back OK.  Except for
  lighting up the lights and making beeping noises, of course.
 
 AFAIK, it doesn't.
 
 My usual test is to run a test string into the modem which activates the
 dialer, and calls some safe number -- time info (767- in most of
 the US).  This lets me find out if the blamed box is working or not, if
 the speaker's working and you can hear the dialtone, ring, and voice
 pickup on the far end.

Heh, I usually put my mobile's number into my connect script. Then I
could see that it worked correctly withouth bothering anyone, and I
could just reject the call so that I didn't have to pay anything
either.. (I imagine that your safe number is free, but I can't
remember any such number over here.)

Regards,
Stig

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Re: Debian ethernet networking

2001-12-08 Thread lloyder
Hello Matt and all,

Thank you for the quick reply.  Is that the correct place
for the route info?  Right now via interfaces the 
machines are speaking well together, but the lack of 
entries not having the numeous route table entries
is quite contrary and concerning to all the networking
HOW-TOs.  Any comment?

Best regards,
Lloyd


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Subject: Re: Debian ethernet networking


 
 
 On 7 Dec 2001, at 19:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I am having the darnest time getting my first Debian  
  machine(s) / ethernet network set up...Debian 
  Potato... I cannot figure out what script or 
  configuration file to put the 'route -add ...' 
  commands in? 
  
 
 
 You can put them at the bottom of bootmisc.sh in /etc/init.d
 
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Re: Bug#122845: What happened to compose? - further information

2001-12-08 Thread Matthias Klose
Joey Hess writes:
 Package: libreadline4
 Version: 4.2a-2
 
 Johann Spies wrote:
  I have further information:  Typing in vim the compose key works, but
  not in bash.  I can thus type ëê etc in vim, but not in bash.
  
  Any ideas on how to solve it?
 
 I have the same problem, so it would seem that this is a problem
 specific to bash, or to readline. Hmm, it's readline, the compose key 
 fails in other programs that use readline as well, producing just a beep
 no matter what character I try to input (I tried ¡, ä, á, ß, etc). It
 works fine in zsh, vim, xchat (gtk), etc. This is in an xterm.

yes, it is specific. See /etc/inputrc. convert-meta has to be turned
off.



Re: Bug#122845: What happened to compose? - further information

2001-12-08 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sat, 8 Dec 2001, Matthias Klose wrote:

 Joey Hess writes:
  Package: libreadline4
  Version: 4.2a-2
 
  Johann Spies wrote:
   I have further information:  Typing in vim the compose key works, but
   not in bash.  I can thus type ëê etc in vim, but not in bash.
  
   Any ideas on how to solve it?
 
  I have the same problem, so it would seem that this is a problem
  specific to bash, or to readline. Hmm, it's readline, the compose key
  fails in other programs that use readline as well, producing just a beep
  no matter what character I try to input (I tried ¡, ä, á, ß, etc). It
  works fine in zsh, vim, xchat (gtk), etc. This is in an xterm.

 yes, it is specific. See /etc/inputrc. convert-meta has to be turned
 off.

Or better: Set LANG to an appropriate value and make sure it is
supported by /etc/locale.gen if you are using woody.



Re: Audigy Drivers

2001-12-08 Thread David Teague
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, csj wrote:

 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  (Side note: I
 just spent days figuring out you have to compile the thing into
 the kernel. I had thought it was an entirely user space program.)


Hi

Has anyone had any success with making the Audigy card work with
Linux? 

The alsa-project web site says the card isn't yet supported.

To shorten a long story, at no increase in cost, I was sent the
Audigy (with a new machine)  instead of the SB live-platinum that I
ordered.

I want to use it under Linux. I prefer Linux, and have Woody with a
late 2.4 kernel.

Any further information anyone can send will be helpful, and if you
wish I will share my successes.

Meanwhile I can use it under  (agh) Win2000. It works there, so
it CAN be made to work. 

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Re: Does anyone know a good X windows documentation

2001-12-08 Thread Tom Pfeifer
der der wrote:
 
 For example setting up the video card, monitor and the differences between
 the different window managers...
 
 would like to hear from someone.

Another window manager to take a look at is icewm which I use, or the
gnome compatible version of it icewm-gnome. I like it, some don't, but
it's probably one of the easiest to use and configure. 

Also know that there are some companion packages for it such as a config
program (icepref), a menu editor (iceme), and a themes package
(icewm-themes). In woody there's also a lightweight version
(icewm-lite), and a new experimental version (icewm-experimental).

Tom



Re: 2.4.16 kernel crashed

2001-12-08 Thread Preben Randhol
Dmitriy Kropivnitskiy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/12/2001 (07:56) :
 I have been using 2.4.16 since it came out and hadn't had a single problem.
 On the other hand xscreensaver and xlock has always been trouble. A crashed GL
 application sometimes will leave your video card in such a mess that even 
 kiling X right from under it will not reinitialize it. Generally this would 
 noy affect ability to remotely connect unless the GL application didn't crash 
 but instead is hogging system resources. I haven't seen this happen with 
 xscreensaver, but xlock had done similar things to me a few times. So, I 
 don't really believe that this is related to kernel version, although since 
 DRI support has been rewritten in 2.4 series, that might cause some trouble.

I tested and found that my Linux machine works fine if I don't use a GL
screensaver. However when I tried a GL screensaver again my machine
froze. This time I had run this in a xterm as root:

sleep 35m; shutdown -r +5

But the machine never rebooted, which leads me to suspect that the
kernel crashed.

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How can i install woody?

2001-12-08 Thread Stan Brown
I have a new machine, on which I wish to isntall woody.

What's the best way to do this? I have fast network conectivity, and for
potato systems in the past, I have just downloaded the boot, root, and
driver floppies, and done an install via ntework. But I don't believe there
are any install floppies yet for woody, right?

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Re: Character-mode clock

2001-12-08 Thread Brian McGroarty
On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 12:55:39PM +0200, George Karaolides wrote:
 On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Sounds like what you want is `vcstime`
  ...it's part of console-tools, so I'd be betting it's on your system 
  already.
  Check in /etc/console-tools/config for the option to turn it on on system
  boot.
 
 I think vcstime only runs in the console, not in a terminal like an xterm.
 I need to see the clock when remotely logged in.

You can also use the 'screen' package and add a status bar to the
display which would let you keep a clock on screen even while using
other applications.



get leds on after bootup. Newbie #61

2001-12-08 Thread Ian Balchin
Karsten,

Thanks, I have written this into /etc/rc.local which I created as there 
was not a file of this name.

However, it has made no change and I did not see the echo message so the 
file is maybe not being read.

Next step please?

Regards
Ian

 on Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 12:07:52AM +0200, Ian Balchin
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:  Karsten,   A note to say that mog is a
 cat!  I have her permanently, and she is  now in my office.  When I came
 home she was cuddled up to the  computer, and is now asleep on my desk. 
 I am sure she will come  around slowly.
 
 OK.  So mog is the new cat from your friend.  Give her a month or so.
 Older cats are less flexible than younger ones, but most cats are
 inherently people friendly.  Then again, I'm a cat lover, and my
 ex-girlfriend's cat hated me for four years until she was dying of cancer
 and didn't have any fight left in her any more
 
  The Numlock is set on in the bios but goes off early in the linux boot
  sequence.
 
 One possible tip, from Google:
 
 
 Place this in in your /etc/rc.d/rc.local to activate Numlock for the
 first six terminals:
 
 echo Activating Numlock ...
 for i in 1 2 3 4 5 6; do
   /usr/bin/setleds +num  /dev/tty${i}  /dev/null
 done

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Re: How can i install woody?

2001-12-08 Thread Erik Simon
Hi,

You could install potato and upgrade to woody. I don't know if it's
the best way, but it's a way, and it worked fine for me.

Good luck.

Erik



Re: How can i install woody?

2001-12-08 Thread David Teague

Hi Stan

What they told me is:

If you have trouble with Woody floppies (oxymoron?) use Potato
install floppies, install enought to use apt, the follow the apt
sequence of commands for upgrading then use dselect to install what
you like.

--David
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 useful, technically accurate, and friendly.
 (I hope this is all of the above.)

On Sat, 8 Dec 2001, Stan Brown wrote:

 I have a new machine, on which I wish to isntall woody.
 
 What's the best way to do this? I have fast network conectivity, and for
 potato systems in the past, I have just downloaded the boot, root, and
 driver floppies, and done an install via ntework. But I don't believe there
 are any install floppies yet for woody, right?
 
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Re: get leds on after bootup. Newbie #61

2001-12-08 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 03:58:05PM +0200, Ian Balchin wrote:
 Karsten M. Self wrote:
  Place this in in your /etc/rc.d/rc.local to activate Numlock for the
  first six terminals:
  
  echo Activating Numlock ...
  for i in 1 2 3 4 5 6; do
/usr/bin/setleds +num  /dev/tty${i}  /dev/null
  done
 
 Karsten,
 
 Thanks, I have written this into /etc/rc.local which I created as there 
 was not a file of this name.
 
 However, it has made no change and I did not see the echo message so the 
 file is maybe not being read.

Debian doesn't use /etc/rc.local or anything like that. I'd recommend
using a file in /etc/init.d, say /etc/init.d/numlock-off, and then using
'update-rc.d numlock-off start 99 S .' to have it run when you boot.

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