date:20020209

Re: cdrecord & xcdroast

2002-02-09 Thread Greg C. Madden

On Sat, 2002-02-09 at 20:23, Bob Thibodeau wrote:
> I just fired up my cd writer after a year or so, and
> some issues came up.
snip
> Google search fixed this. I'm running kernel 2.2.14 and aparently
> the latest cdrecord (used by xcdroast) only works with 2,4 kernels
> 
> I downgraded cdrecord and set it to hold in dselect.
> 
> 3. apt now complains about broken dependencies and wants to force
> an upgrade of cdrecord
> 
> Should I just downgrade xcdroast? Or is there another way around this?
> Should I complain to the package maintainer about the kernel mismatch?

When I installed xcdroast + depends on my woody box I recieved an  error
message such as yours concering 2.4 kernel, I use a 2.2 kernel. It also
prompted me with a method to: determine depends, download the source and
build new packages  for the 2.2 kenel. I don't remember the commands
right now but maybe they passed by on your screen & you didn't notice.  
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cdrecord & xcdroast

2002-02-09 Thread Bob Thibodeau

I just fired up my cd writer after a year or so, and
some issues came up.

1. xcdroast now set suid, making gtk refuse to start as user

What happened to setting up as root and running later as non-root?
Am I forgetting something?

Is there a better program for creating data cd's? I made some
audio cds with gcdmaster and, before, cdrdao, but they need ,toc
files. Only for audio, right?

2. cd writing failed with an error about being unable to do something with
/dev/zero

Google search fixed this. I'm running kernel 2.2.14 and aparently
the latest cdrecord (used by xcdroast) only works with 2,4 kernels

I downgraded cdrecord and set it to hold in dselect.

3. apt now complains about broken dependencies and wants to force
an upgrade of cdrecord

Should I just downgrade xcdroast? Or is there another way around this?
Should I complain to the package maintainer about the kernel mismatch?

Thanks,
Bob

Re: XP then Linux

2002-02-09 Thread Bruce Burhans

Thanks to Caleb and Noah for their advice, which I have saved along with
Bens.

To repeat: I'm a-ok with using a floppy to boot Debian until I
become skilled enough with it to be able to dump XP.This won't take
long.
I'm sorry if I didn't make myself clear, but the heart of my
question  is this below, about whether I should leave the secind 10Gb as
free space when I re-install xp, and if my conception of the use of
cfdsk during setup is accurate. I've read the MAN page 4X but am still
not sure if I"ve got it.


Yours,

Bruce<+> [EMAIL PROTECTED]



_
I've got XP, and a 20Gb harddrive, and I want to add Debian. Only
Woody will handle the USB stuff, so that's that.
So I re-install XP on the first 10Gb, leaving the rest as free
space.
Then I use -m  and -n commands to create a Linux-only maximized
(extended) partition from the free space, which will be in ext2 by
default.
From their I create logical partitions for boot/root , swap , var ,
and home.




Because I despise XP, I will just boot Debian from a floppy (will
make several copies with rawrite) 'til I have a handle on Linux, then
use dd to write over the first partition with zeros, then dd again to
copy Woody verbatim to the the first partition where it can access the
BIOS.

Sound like a plan?

Your guidance is much appreciated

Bruce<+> [EMAIL PROTECTED]





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Re: XP then Linux

2002-02-09 Thread Bruce Burhans

Ben-
Thank you very much. But my posting makes very clear that
the dual-boot arrangement is only temporary, and that I'll be dumping XP
I've read tons of material on dual-boot arrangements, but
only for the purpose of hanging onto XP until I've got my basic Linux
chops down.
I *really* dislike MS.

V/R

Bruce<+>[EMAIL PROTECTED]

GRUB to book 2nd drive

2002-02-09 Thread Michael D. Crawford

I have a multiboot system that presently boots Win98, Windows NT and Linux on a 
SCSI drive.


I recently added an IDE drive and am able to boot BeOS off this second drive 
using the GRUB installed on the SCSI drive.  My machine's bios is set to start 
up from SCSI.


Is it possible to install Windows 2000 on this second drive, living the SCSI 
drive more or less as it is, so I can boot Windows 2000 from Grub?


Sorry to bring up the Evil Empire.  I much prefer Linux, but run Windows out of 
economic necessity.


I think I can configure grub much like I have it to boot the BeOS off the second 
drive, in part my concern is whether the Win2k installer is going to eat my SCSI 
drive.


Mike
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Re: .deb packages from outside debian/dists/ ?

2002-02-09 Thread Ben Collins

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 08:31:50PM -0800, Paul E Condon wrote:
> I want to install some software that I downloaded as a .deb file, but it
> did not come from a Debian mirror. Instead it came from a ftp download
> from a developer's web site. The only way I have ever used dselect, dpkg, or
> apt-get have been to get stuff from a Debian mirror and then unpack and 
> install it. This happened all automatically. Now I have a file in my home
> directory. Where do I put it? What commands and options do I use?

dpkg -i blah.deb

> And most important - where are the answers to these questions in the 
> documentation?

dpkg --help
man dpkg
man deb



Ben

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Re: .deb packages from outside debian/dists/ ?

2002-02-09 Thread Craig Dickson

begin  Paul E Condon  quotation:

> I want to install some software that I downloaded as a .deb file, but it
> did not come from a Debian mirror. Instead it came from a ftp download
> from a developer's web site. The only way I have ever used dselect, dpkg, or
> apt-get have been to get stuff from a Debian mirror and then unpack and 
> install it. This happened all automatically. Now I have a file in my home
> directory. Where do I put it? What commands and options do I use?
> 
> And most important - where are the answers to these questions in the 
> documentation?

man dpkg

However, the answer to your other questions are that it doesn't matter
where you put the .deb file. You just make yourself root and run

   dpkg -i file.deb

substituting the name of the .deb for file.deb.

Craig


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.deb packages from outside debian/dists/ ?

2002-02-09 Thread Paul E Condon

I want to install some software that I downloaded as a .deb file, but it
did not come from a Debian mirror. Instead it came from a ftp download
from a developer's web site. The only way I have ever used dselect, dpkg, or
apt-get have been to get stuff from a Debian mirror and then unpack and 
install it. This happened all automatically. Now I have a file in my home
directory. Where do I put it? What commands and options do I use?

And most important - where are the answers to these questions in the 
documentation?

Thanks.

-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: XP then Linux

2002-02-09 Thread Caleb Shay

I've done this.  GRUB boots WinXP just fine. The relevant entry in
menu.lst (assuming XP is the first partition on the first hard drive)
is:

Title WinXP
rootnoverify (hd0,0)  
makeactive
chainloader +1


On Sat, 2002-02-09 at 20:17, Noah Meyerhans wrote:

> GRUB may be able to boot both operating systems from the hard drive...
> Then again, maybe not.  I can't hurt to try.  It might be safe to keep
> an XP boot disk around, just in case you render it unbootable.  And if
> it turns out that you really can't dual boot from the HD, you can delete
> GRUB from within XP by using 'fdisk/mbr' in a command prompt.
> 
> noah
> 
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Re: XP then Linux

2002-02-09 Thread Noah Meyerhans

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 07:45:08PM -0800,  Bruce Burhans wrote:
> Because I despise XP, I will just boot Debian from a floppy (will
> make several copies with rawrite) 'til I have a handle on Linux, then
> use dd to write over the first partition with zeros, then dd again to
> copy Woody verbatim to the the first partition where it can access the
> BIOS.

GRUB may be able to boot both operating systems from the hard drive...
Then again, maybe not.  I can't hurt to try.  It might be safe to keep
an XP boot disk around, just in case you render it unbootable.  And if
it turns out that you really can't dual boot from the HD, you can delete
GRUB from within XP by using 'fdisk/mbr' in a command prompt.

noah

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Re: XP then Linux

2002-02-09 Thread ben

On Saturday 09 February 2002 07:45 pm,  Bruce Burhans wrote:
> I've got XP, and a 20Gb harddrive, and I want to add Debian. Only
> Woody will handle the USB stuff, so that's that.
> So I re-install XP on the first 10Gb, leaving the rest as free
> space.
> Then I use -m  and -n commands to create a Linux-only maximized
> (extended) partition from the free space, which will be in ext2 by
> default.
> From their I create logical partitions for boot/root , swap , var ,
> and home.
>
> Because I despise XP, I will just boot Debian from a floppy (will
> make several copies with rawrite) 'til I have a handle on Linux, then
> use dd to write over the first partition with zeros, then dd again to
> copy Woody verbatim to the the first partition where it can access the
> BIOS.
>
> Sound like a plan?
>

bruce, do take the time to read up on creating a dual-boot system. talk of 
writing over the first partition with zeros just sounds like something you 
might wish you hadn't done, later on.

Re: Evolution and Konqueror

2002-02-09 Thread ben

On Saturday 09 February 2002 08:03 pm, Michel Loos wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would like to use konqueror as the default browser (instead of
> netscape) when I click on a hyperlink in a mail message (using
> Evolution)
>
> How can I configure this?
>
> Michel.

control panel, file browsing, file associations, text, html, and select your 
browser.

Re: Can't un/install xdm/gdm/wdm

2002-02-09 Thread Noah Meyerhans

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 04:17:25PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> Setting up gdm (2.2.5.3-2) ...
> dpkg: error processing gdm (--configure):
>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10

Well, if you want some debugging output, try adding the -x flag to the
#!/bin/sh line in /var/lib/dpkg/info/{g,w,x}dm.postinst scripts.

Also, try running dpkg-reconfigure on the packages in question.

> fafsa-01:~# update-alternatives --config x-session-manager
> 
> There is only 1 program which provides x-session-manager
> (/usr/bin/gdm). Nothing to configure.
> 
> fafsa-01:~# /etc/init.d/gdm start
> Not starting GNOME Display Manager (gdm); it is not the default display 
> manager.fafsa-01:~#

This is all because x-session-manager is no longer used to choose the
display manager.  Instead, a debconf hack is used to create
/etc/X11/default-display-manager, which contains the name of the display
manager to use.  /etc/init.d/gdm is telling you above that gdm is not
listed in that file.  I suspect that the reason you're having this
problem has something to do with the debconf mechanism involved, but I
can't say for sure.  The suggestions I gave above should yield some
interesting info.

noah
(wdm maintainer)

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Re: Evolution and Konqueror

2002-02-09 Thread Michel Loos

Em Dom, 2002-02-10 às 02:03, Michel Loos escreveu:
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to use konqueror as the default browser (instead of
> netscape) when I click on a hyperlink in a mail message (using
> Evolution)
> 
> How can I configure this?
> 
> Michel.

Answering my own question, obviously I asked for help to soon.

create a ~/.gnome/gnome-moz-remote file with the following content:

[Mozilla]
filename=konqueror

and this even when using kde2 and not gnome 


Michel.

Re: SpamBouncer

2002-02-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava

>>"Stan" == Stan Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 Stan> Do you have any insight on that?

The last update (and the last message on the mailing list) was
 on 22 Aug 2001.  I think the author is swamped with RL stuff
 (spambouncer updates have been more and more infrequent). However,
 since itis just one link on my mail handling chain, I have not
 followed up with this.

manoj
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Evolution and Konqueror

2002-02-09 Thread Michel Loos

Hi,

I would like to use konqueror as the default browser (instead of
netscape) when I click on a hyperlink in a mail message (using
Evolution)

How can I configure this?

Michel.

Re: What happened to dhcpcd

2002-02-09 Thread Joey Hess

Cameron Kerr wrote:
> Hello, can anyone tell me why there is no longer any packages for dhcpcd
> in testing or unstable. I'd rather not use pump, since I've heard that it
> has problems with multiple interfaces. dhcpcd is in stable, and is what I
> have been using.

Security problems, and crap code: http://bugs.debian.org/81627

Pump is not the only alternative, try dhclient (package dhcp-client).

-- 
see shy jo

Re: XP then Linux

2002-02-09 Thread Ron Johnson


 Bruce Burhans wrote:


   I've got XP, and a 20Gb harddrive, and I want to add Debian. Only
Woody will handle the USB stuff, so that's that.
   So I re-install XP on the first 10Gb, leaving the rest as free
space.
   Then I use -m  and -n commands to create a Linux-only maximized
(extended) partition from the free space, which will be in ext2 by
default.
   From their I create logical partitions for boot/root , swap , var ,
and home.

   Because I despise XP, I will just boot Debian from a floppy (will
make several copies with rawrite) 'til I have a handle on Linux, then
use dd to write over the first partition with zeros, then dd again to
copy Woody verbatim to the the first partition where it can access the
BIOS.

Sound like a plan?

Your guidance is much appreciated

Bruce<+> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It's possible to dial-boot from hard-disk using lilo.  I'm pretty sure 
that there's

a dual-boot HOWTO...

XP then Linux

2002-02-09 Thread Bruce Burhans


I've got XP, and a 20Gb harddrive, and I want to add Debian. Only
Woody will handle the USB stuff, so that's that.
So I re-install XP on the first 10Gb, leaving the rest as free
space.
Then I use -m  and -n commands to create a Linux-only maximized
(extended) partition from the free space, which will be in ext2 by
default.
From their I create logical partitions for boot/root , swap , var ,
and home.

Because I despise XP, I will just boot Debian from a floppy (will
make several copies with rawrite) 'til I have a handle on Linux, then
use dd to write over the first partition with zeros, then dd again to
copy Woody verbatim to the the first partition where it can access the
BIOS.

Sound like a plan?

Your guidance is much appreciated

Bruce<+> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: What happened to dhcpcd

2002-02-09 Thread Simon Law

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Cameron Kerr wrote:

> Hello, can anyone tell me why there is no longer any packages for dhcpcd
> in testing or unstable. I'd rather not use pump, since I've heard that it
> has problems with multiple interfaces. dhcpcd is in stable, and is what I
> have been using.

You're looking for the dhcp-client package.

Simon

What happened to dhcpcd

2002-02-09 Thread Cameron Kerr

Hello, can anyone tell me why there is no longer any packages for dhcpcd
in testing or unstable. I'd rather not use pump, since I've heard that it
has problems with multiple interfaces. dhcpcd is in stable, and is what I
have been using.

Cameron Kerr
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Re: printing to samba

2002-02-09 Thread dman

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 11:23:19PM -0800, Patrick Kirk wrote:
| I got it working using the web interface of CUPS under Lynx.  Took about 4
| attempts and some mild swearing but after 5 years of using Linux its the
| first time I got it to print ;-)
| 
| Would you mind posting what you've put in smb.conf to share it?


; /etc/smb.conf

[global]
printing = cups
load printers = yes

;
; A "magic" section.
;
[printers]
comment = All Printers
available = yes
; spool dir
directory = /tmp
printable = yes
public = yes
writable = yes
create mode = 0666
browseable = yes

guest ok = yes
guest account = nobody


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Re: ati radeon XF86Config

2002-02-09 Thread Timothy Burt

Hi there --

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 11:31:43AM -0700, Dan Owens wrote:
> On Saturday 09 February 2002 08:15 am, Timothy Burt wrote:
> 
> >
> > 2) Did you generate the config file by hand?  If not, you could try
> >to let X configure itself, with the -configure option (which will
> >generate an XF86Config-4 file for you).
> >
> 
> Would you please give the exact command you have in mind?  Configuring 
> xfree86 is one of the worst things you need to do in Linux (in my opinion, of 
> course).

OK, so I'm away from a linux machine at the moment (unfortunately), so I can't
double check.  But, assuming you have X4, you just type:

X -configure

If you use both X3.3.6 (or whatever) and X4, I'm not sure what your
X wrapper points to.  In that case, you'd use xfree86 -configure explicitly.
This will generate a candidate config file in your current directory
named XF86Config-4.  To test the config file, I believe you can do
X -xf86config $cwd/XF86Config-4.

I use an ATI card with the rage 128 engine and have had no trouble, but
it seems like the radeon has been more problematic. :-(

Tim

Re: ati radeon XF86Config

2002-02-09 Thread Leonard


Hello,

I didn't follow this thread, but to get mine to work, I downloaded
the binaries of X 4.2 on ftp.xfree86.org, launched ./install.sh and
ohh miracle, it worked right away :) No AGP, No FBdev.

The garbage on the screen might also come from an incorrect RAM setting.

I'd like to acknowledge the work of _ Greycat _ on #debian, allways there
to answer people's questions, evennow he didn't get this one :)

Guillaume

Le Sat, 9 Feb 2002 17:59:54 -0800, Aaron Brashears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a 
marmonne:
> On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 10:15:47AM -0500, Timothy Burt wrote:
> > 1) Have you compiled support for agpgart in the kernel?  And are you
> >using the kernel-supplied radeon driver?
> 
> Following your suggestion, I installed the radeon driver in the
> kernel. This caused a temporary disruption in display, and then some
> garbage on the screen, but then worked fine for console. I attempted
> to restart, but got the same error messages from X.
> 
> I'm not too sure what flavor of radeon I have other than the tag on
> the static bag - 'ATI Radeon 7500 64MB AGP OEM w.DVI'. 
> 
> I guess at this point, I should either wait for X 4.2, or file a bug.
> 
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Re: ati radeon XF86Config

2002-02-09 Thread Aaron Brashears

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 10:15:47AM -0500, Timothy Burt wrote:
> 1) Have you compiled support for agpgart in the kernel?  And are you
>using the kernel-supplied radeon driver?

Following your suggestion, I installed the radeon driver in the
kernel. This caused a temporary disruption in display, and then some
garbage on the screen, but then worked fine for console. I attempted
to restart, but got the same error messages from X.

I'm not too sure what flavor of radeon I have other than the tag on
the static bag - 'ATI Radeon 7500 64MB AGP OEM w.DVI'. 

I guess at this point, I should either wait for X 4.2, or file a bug.

Re: 2 questions

2002-02-09 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva

On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 16:34:39 -0800 (PST)
"nate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > 2.in MS-Windows, the monitor is turned down (the LED blinks) after
> > a period of in-activity. In X, it just blanks. what is the
> > difference? how to make the LED blinks in X?
> 
> not sure, i don't trust APM, i rather turn my monitor off
> with the switch then trust APM to do it for me.
I don't think this is related to APM... this seems to be related
to DPMS... try xset --help and check the DPMS options

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Cannot delete mails under Mutt

2002-02-09 Thread Terence Ng

Hi!

I still cannot delete mails under Mutt.  The output of ls -ld 'which mutt' 
'which mutt-dotlock' is:

-rwxr-xr-x  1  root  root  484796  Jan 2  07:18  /usr/bin/mutt
-rwxr-sr-x  1  root  mail  7152Jan 2  07:18  /usr/bin/mutt_dotlock

The output of mutt -v is attached.

Sincerely,

Terence Ng
Mutt 1.2.5i (2000-07-28)
Copyright (C) 1996-2000 Michael R. Elkins and others.
Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'.
Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details.

System: Linux 2.2.19-compact [using ncurses 5.0]
Compile options:
-DOMAIN
-DEBUG
-HOMESPOOL  +USE_SETGID  +USE_DOTLOCK  +USE_FCNTL  -USE_FLOCK
+USE_IMAP  +USE_GSS  -USE_SSL  +USE_POP  +HAVE_REGCOMP  -USE_GNU_REGEX  
+HAVE_COLOR  +HAVE_PGP  -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS  +ENABLE_NLS
SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail"
MAILPATH="/var/spool/mail"
SHAREDIR="/usr/share/mutt"
SYSCONFDIR="/etc"
ISPELL="/usr/bin/ispell"
To contact the developers, please mail to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
To report a bug, please use the muttbug utility.

pilot-link

2002-02-09 Thread Scott Henson

I am trying to get my palm m125 to sync with my woody system.  Now I
went to visor list and they said that I needed the latest CVS version oh
pilot-link.  I was wondering if anyone had it packaged so maybe I could
keep dpkg happy.  Thankyou.
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from human depravity or esprit de corps, the necessary enemy of the
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Re: fsck'ing a rw-mounted partition and display power management in X (was: 2 questions)

2002-02-09 Thread Elizabeth Barham

"a" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 1.how to fsck /dev/hda3 which is root? it's mounted rw, and fsck warns it is
> dangerous to check it.

You need to remount it read-only (ro). See mount(8) for details:

mount /dev/hda3 -o remount,ro

e2fsck /dev/hda3

mount /dev/hda3 -o remount,rw

> 2.in MS-Windows, the monitor is turned down (the LED blinks) after a period
> of in-activity. In X, it just blanks. what is the difference? how to make
> the LED blinks in X?

Consider adding the line: option "dpms" to your XF86Config file
in the monitor section. Example:

Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "acer aspire 55s"
HorizSync   30-54
VertRefresh 50-110
option "dpms"
EndSection

Elizabeth

Re: 2 questions

2002-02-09 Thread nate


> 1.how to fsck /dev/hda3 which is root? it's mounted rw, and fsck
> warns it is dangerous to check it.

to do it without rebooting:
init 1
mount / -o remount,ro
e2fsck /dev/hda3
mount / -o remount,rw
init 2

if you have other partitions mounted you have to unmount them
first (umount /mountpoint)

>
> 2.in MS-Windows, the monitor is turned down (the LED blinks) after
> a period of in-activity. In X, it just blanks. what is the
> difference? how to make the LED blinks in X?

not sure, i don't trust APM, i rather turn my monitor off
with the switch then trust APM to do it for me.

nate

2 questions

2002-02-09 Thread a

1.how to fsck /dev/hda3 which is root? it's mounted rw, and fsck warns it is
dangerous to check it.

2.in MS-Windows, the monitor is turned down (the LED blinks) after a period
of in-activity. In X, it just blanks. what is the difference? how to make
the LED blinks in X?

[OT] what ports do quake3 use?

2002-02-09 Thread Peter Jay Salzman

hi there,

i want to run a quake3 server from behind a firewall.

what ports do i need to open up and forward in order to run a quake 3
server?

pete

Re: Games on Linux?

2002-02-09 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson

On Sat, 9 Feb 2002, Adam Majer wrote:

> I think you could buy Linux only version that came with the data files :)

Yeah, back when Loki existed.

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Re: Where'd as go?

2002-02-09 Thread Rich Johnson

Colin Watson wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 12:43:30PM -0500, Rich Johnson wrote:
> > Colin Watson wrote:
> > > I've checked binutils_2.11.92.0.12.3-6_powerpc.deb, and it does indeed
> > > contain /usr/bin/as. This wouldn't be something screwing up $PATH,
> > > perhaps?
> >
> > I must be missing something here:
> >
> > -  $PATH looks fine
> > -  /usr/bin/as does not exist.
>
> That's really very odd. Could you have a look at the output of 'dpkg -c
> /var/cache/apt/archives/binutils_2.11.92.0.12.3-6_powerpc.deb' and see
> if it includes /usr/bin/as? If so, dpkg is screwing up - I'm not quite
> sure how yet though.
>

AHA!  dpkg -c reports:

tar: Skipping to next header
tar: Archive contains obsolete base-64 headers
...and so on.

Thanks for the pointer.  Apparently the .deb was corrupted somewhere along the
line.It's certainly confusing (any maybe a bug?) that dpkg -L doesn't report
problems with the .deb.

I downloaded another copy--one which passes the 'dpkg -c' test and installed
properly.

Thanks again,
--rich

let the coding begin.

Re: Backup of debian

2002-02-09 Thread Alvin Oga


hi ya jens

lots of free backup scripts that also writes to cdr

http://www.Linux-Backup.net/app.gwif.html

have fun linuxing
alvin

- other way is to save your /etc  especially sources.list
  and have a way to boot your vigin machine and it can 
  rebuild itself...again and use your saved /etc to restore
  your config ( assuming oyu put every config thingie into /etc )

- maybe /usr/local too if you do lots of manual installs

On Sat, 9 Feb 2002, Jens Gecius wrote:


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Re: Backup of debian

2002-02-09 Thread Al Nikolov

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 06:05:19PM -0500, Jens Gecius wrote:
> 
> So, I thought to take the information about the running system from
> the file /var/lib/dpkg/status, and just backing up those files
> deviating from the packages default-configs (the full files, no
> diffs). Additionally, /home gets backed up, perhaps some exclusions,

IMHO, the debian policy permits a simplest option: just do a backup of /etc 
with following symlinks.

Re: printing to samba

2002-02-09 Thread Patrick Kirk

I got it working using the web interface of CUPS under Lynx.  Took about 4
attempts and some mild swearing but after 5 years of using Linux its the
first time I got it to print ;-)

Would you mind posting what you've put in smb.conf to share it?

Patrick

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Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: printing to samba


>
>
> On a sid system, which package?  I'm just tired of fighting this friggin
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>
> Thus spake ben ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>
> > On Saturday 09 February 2002 09:12 am, Robert L. Harris wrote:
> > > I've given up on getting my hp882c to print under linux.  Filters dont
> > > work, etc.
> > >
> >
> > have you tried installing cups? if not, it's definitely worth the time
it
> > takes to investigate.
> >
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Re: Can't dpkg-reconfigure ssh

2002-02-09 Thread Adam Majer

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 04:19:51PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> When I run "dpkg-reconfigure ssh", I just get dropped back to a command 
> prompt. No questions; no disk thrashing; no bells and whistles.
> 
> I originally told sshd to not run; now I want it to run. I know I can 
> just delete the file /etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run, but I'd rather do it 
> the "correct" way.

What release? It works in Sid... Can you reconfigure other packages?

- Adam

Backup of debian

2002-02-09 Thread Jens Gecius

Hi folks,

I'd like to get some input on an idea I had to backup a pure debian
system.

I like my backups on cd-r, so my current system backup eats roughly 10
cd-r. For me, this seems a little too much, because all packages are
available via the internet, nowadays pretty fast with dsl/cable.

So, I thought to take the information about the running system from
the file /var/lib/dpkg/status, and just backing up those files
deviating from the packages default-configs (the full files, no
diffs). Additionally, /home gets backed up, perhaps some exclusions,
but no binaries except those needed to make the cd bootable to restore
the system via  internet. Also, it might be possible to backup any
/usr/local stuff (which by definition is not debian). Details to be
discussed. 

I know a restore would probably cost more time than a backup on a tape
or a bunch of cds, but it would have the benefit of having a small
footprint, being pretty fast and IMHO more suitable for a home
environment.

Any ideas? Input? Help? What do you guys think might be an even better
idea for a backup with such requirements (fast, small, home-env)?

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Re: sftp not connecting/ssh connects

2002-02-09 Thread Vineet Kumar

* Lance Hoffmeyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020208 14:58]:
> What have people done in order to get sftp to connect to a remote host?
> The FAQ mentions something about an interactive mode on the shell but
> I am not sure what this means?  My .bashrc is basic with color-dir set
> and a few aliases.  Any suggestions?

Check the remote /etc/ssh/sshd_config, and make sure you have a line
that says

Subsystem   sftp/usr/lib/sftp-server

Also, look for messages in the log on the remote server. If the
subsystem line isn't there, it should say something about a request for
an unavailable subsystem "sftp".

good times,
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Re: sources.list question

2002-02-09 Thread Patrick Kirk

Interesting...I use vi on the server but the machine I'm configuring has a
non-techie owner so needed somthing that offered at least a clue as to how
to exit without rebooting the machine ( and yes - that's how he exitted vi
first time!)

Nano is fine.  I just wanted the ^X stuff on the bottom to keep him from
rebooting.

Thanks all.  Now for my next question...

Re: Sendmail access.db

2002-02-09 Thread John Cichy

Thanks for the response, but when I put this in the sendmail.mc and run 
either make or sendmailconfig it gives the following error:

***WARNING: Missing -T in argument of FEATURE(`access_db', hash -o 
/etc/mail/access)

It does accept the mail for delivery, but does anyone know what this warning 
is about?

TIA,
John

On Saturday 09 February 2002 16:30, Igor Mozetic wrote:
> > debian(woody). All works except using the access.db to decide who can
> > RELAY. During installation and setup with dselect no mention of the
> > access file or access.db is made. Can someone help me to turn this switch
> > on?
>
> I'm running potato sendmail 8.9.3-23.
> You add a line into sendmail.mc:
>
> FEATURE(`access_db', `hash -o /etc/mail/access')dnl
>
> and in access something like:
>
> YOUR.DOMAIN RELAY
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]   REJECT
>
> -Igor Mozetic

Can't dpkg-reconfigure ssh

2002-02-09 Thread Kent West

When I run "dpkg-reconfigure ssh", I just get dropped back to a command 
prompt. No questions; no disk thrashing; no bells and whistles.

I originally told sshd to not run; now I want it to run. I know I can 
just delete the file /etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run, but I'd rather do it 
the "correct" way.

Thanks!

Kent

Re: sftp not connecting/ssh connects

2002-02-09 Thread Jeff

Lance Hoffmeyer, 2002-Feb-08 16:16 -0600:
> What have people done in order to get sftp to connect to a remote host?
> The FAQ mentions something about an interactive mode on the shell but
> I am not sure what this means?  My .bashrc is basic with color-dir set
> and a few aliases.  Any suggestions?
> 
> Lance

AFAIK, sftp connects just like ssh and has the same functionality
as ftp once connected.  If you know the name and path of the
file(s) you which up/download, you can use scp.

$ sftp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
password: ***
sftp> 

...now use normal ftp commands.

Make sure you can connect using ssh first.

jc

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Can't un/install xdm/gdm/wdm

2002-02-09 Thread Kent West

I've gotten into a situation on Woody where I can not install nor 
uninstall xdm or gdm or wdm. I can install other things.

Here's some relevant output:

fafsa-01:~# apt-get install xdm
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Sorry, xdm is already the newest version.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0  not upgraded.
3 packages not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
Setting up gdm (2.2.5.3-2) ...
dpkg: error processing gdm (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10
Setting up wdm (1.20-13) ...
dpkg: error processing wdm (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10
Setting up xdm (4.1.0-13) ...
dpkg: error processing xdm (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10
Errors were encountered while processing:
 gdm
 wdm
 xdm
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
fafsa-01:~#


The same type thing happens with gdm and wdm.

Here's more:

fafsa-01:~# apt-get remove xdm
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  xdm
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0  not upgraded.
3 packages not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 664kB will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
(Reading database ... 26154 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing xdm ...
dpkg: error processing xdm (--remove):
 subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 10
dpkg: error while cleaning up:
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10
Errors were encountered while processing:
 xdm
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
fafsa-01:~#



And more:


fafsa-01:~# update-alternatives --config x-session-manager

There is only 1 program which provides x-session-manager
(/usr/bin/gdm). Nothing to configure.


fafsa-01:~# /etc/init.d/gdm start
Not starting GNOME Display Manager (gdm); it is not the default display 
manager.fafsa-01:~#


Can anyone help me out here?

Thanks!

Kent

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2002-02-09 Thread James Harvey

On 2/9/02 2:06 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: Sendmail access.db

2002-02-09 Thread Igor Mozetic

> debian(woody). All works except using the access.db to decide who can RELAY.
> During installation and setup with dselect no mention of the access file or
> access.db is made. Can someone help me to turn this switch on?

I'm running potato sendmail 8.9.3-23.
You add a line into sendmail.mc:

FEATURE(`access_db', `hash -o /etc/mail/access')dnl

and in access something like:

YOUR.DOMAIN RELAY
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   REJECT

-Igor Mozetic

Re: How can I install galeon?

2002-02-09 Thread Brian Clark

* MH ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Feb 09. 2002 16:23]:

[...]

> Brian> Just be sure to change your sources.list back to testing
> Brian> when you're done. ;-)

> There are some more elegant ways in apt now.

> Check man apt-get (-t) and man apt_preferences, though I'm not using
> this options (unstable forever ;-)

Ah, Ray just pointed that out also. That's a pretty nice feature, and it
looks like I have some reading to do. :-)

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Re: sources.list question

2002-02-09 Thread Adam Majer

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 05:51:17PM -0800, Patrick Kirk wrote:
> [snip]
> 
> > I remember pine is only available as source due to licensing issue and
> > removed from binary distribution.  If I were desparate, I might download
> > source package and compile.  (Which I believe comes with pico.)
> > 
> > But, I will recommend you to move to "mutt" if you used "pine" or 
> > "elm".  As for "pico", install "nano".
> > 
> so what is non-free for if it doesn't cover things like pine?  
> 
> Nano is fine btw - I'm just asking out of curiosity now.

Sometime ago there was a feverish discussion why pine can't be in 
non-free as binary. It turns out that the license of pine prohibits
distribution of a binary that was produced as a result of changing 
the source code. For a debian package to exist, we must add
at least /debian directory in the source together with all the 
dependencies in there. This is a change to the source code. So we 
can't distribute the binary...

You can get the sources, go into the pine
source directory, type "debian/rules binary" and you'll end
up with .deb of pico and pine in the parent directory.

IMO, it's stupid for pine to have a license like that but
that's life. I don't use it any more. I find mutt to have
more features I like :)

Regards,
Adam

Re: How can I install galeon?

2002-02-09 Thread MH

> "Brian" == Brian Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Brian> * stan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Feb 09. 2002 14:49]:
>> How can I install galeon?

Brian> I change my sources.list to point to unstable, then apt-get
Brian> update, then apt-get -u install galeon. I haven't had any
Brian> problems what so ever.

Brian> Just be sure to change your sources.list back to testing
Brian> when you're done. ;-)

There are some more elegant ways in apt now.

Check man apt-get (-t)  and man apt_preferences, though I'm not using
this options (unstable forever ;-) 

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Re: Games on Linux?

2002-02-09 Thread Adam Majer

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 05:27:16AM -0800, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, 9 Feb 2002, Joey Hess wrote:
> 
> > Did loki put all their games up there for free or something?
> 
> No, but thier binaries were publically avalible.  You'll have to buy the
> Windows version to get the data files to complete the set.

I think you could buy Linux only version that came with the data files :)
That's how they made money AFAIK and not by releasing free ports.

- Adam

Re: ati radeon XF86Config

2002-02-09 Thread Adam Majer

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 12:36:53AM -0800, Aaron Brashears wrote:

> Can anyone supply a copy of their working XF86Config-4 they use with
> the ATI Radeon? Here's a few choice lines from my configuration - can
> you spot the error?
> 
> 
> Section "Device"
> Identifier  "ATI Radeon"
> Driver  "ati"
> #VideoRam65536
> # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
> EndSection

This look about right. It should go.. Besides this I have the following
in my XF86Config-4..

Section "Module"
Load"GLcore"
Load"bitmap"
Load"dbe"
Load"ddc"
Load"dri"
Load"extmod"
Load"freetype"
Load"glx"
Load"int10"
Load"pex5"
Load"record"
Load"speedo"
Load"type1"
Load"vbe"
Load"xie"
Load"wacom"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
MOde0666
EndSection

But your setup should work??

What Radeon are you talking about?? 7500 is supported by X 4.2.0 and 8500 is not
3D accelerated. Your setup should work with anything before 7500 [which is 
almost
exactly the same as regular one - same GPU].

- Adam

[jfranken@jfranken.de: Re: find]

2002-02-09 Thread Johannes Franken

Tom,

sorry for the typo. should be
echo echo -n \> \$1 > /tmp/truncate &&
find /var/log -type f -exec sh /tmp/truncate {} \;

another way to do it would be
find /var/log -type -f -exec cp /dev/null {} \;

HTH
- Forwarded message from Johannes Franken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 21:58:19 +0100
From: Johannes Franken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Antonio Alberto Lobato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: find

> > > # find /var/log -type f -exec echo -n > {} \;
> > > Why find create a file called "{}", instead to erase files contents
> > Try find /var/log -type f -exec cp /tmp/blankfile {} \;
> But the files permissions/owner/group would be changed.

You're right. What about
echo echo -n \> \$1 /tmp/truncate &&
find /var/log -type f -exec sh /tmp/truncate {} \;

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Re: sources.list question

2002-02-09 Thread Wayne Topa

Patrick Kirk([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
>   deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
>   deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib
> non-free
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> My sources list is above.  I can't find pine, pico or smbpasswd.  Is there
> something essential I messed up when I changed from stable to woody?
> 

Someone does have pine packages available, search the archives.
Pico, I don't know.

dpkg -S smbpasswd
samba: /usr/sbin/mksmbpasswd
samba-common: /usr/bin/smbpasswd


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Re: How can I install galeon?

2002-02-09 Thread Mario Vukelic

On Sat, 2002-02-09 at 20:49, stan wrote:
> I've got a machien runing mostly woody packages, with
> a few unstable packages thrown in. When I look in dselect,
> I see galeon, yet when I try to isntall it, dslect complains
> about the version of Mozilla, and one library.
> 
> How can I install galeon?

Add deb lines lines for sid to sources.list. Then create a file
/etc/apt/preferences with this content (see man apt_preferences for what
this does or see here http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2002/1/mail#1):


package:*
Pin: release a=testing
Pin Priority: 900

Package: *
Pin: release a=unstable
Pin Priority: 600

Then apt-get update; apt-get -t unstable install galeon (this means for
this operation target the unstable dist)

Alternatively you can follow this method:
http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2002/4/mail#1


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Re: find

2002-02-09 Thread Johannes Franken

> > > # find /var/log -type f -exec echo -n > {} \;
> > > Why find create a file called "{}", instead to erase files contents
> > Try find /var/log -type f -exec cp /tmp/blankfile {} \;
> But the files permissions/owner/group would be changed.

You're right. What about
echo echo -n \> \$1 /tmp/truncate &&
find /var/log -type f -exec sh /tmp/truncate {} \;

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Re: How can I install galeon?

2002-02-09 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 15:47:05 -0500, Brian Clark wrote:
> Just be sure to change your sources.list back to testing when you're done.

Or create an /etc/apt/preferences containing
Package: *
Pin: release a=testing
in which case you can leave the "unstable" entries in sources.list, keep
your system at "testing" and use "apt-get -t unstable foo" in case you
really want a package from "unstable".

HTH,
Ray
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Re: How can I install galeon?

2002-02-09 Thread Brian Clark

* stan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Feb 09. 2002 14:49]:

> How can I install galeon?

I change my sources.list to point to unstable, then apt-get update, then
apt-get -u install galeon. I haven't had any problems what so ever.

Just be sure to change your sources.list back to testing when you're
done. ;-)

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Re: Problem pinging gateway

2002-02-09 Thread Johannes Franken

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 11:05:13AM -0800, Jon Hughes wrote:
> The linux side appears to recognize the NIC, assigns
> the IP and so forth. Netstat looks right. THe problem
> is I can't even ping the gateway. 

You might have a broken ipchains ruleset.
What do "ipchains -L -n" and "tcpdump -n & ping 192.168.0.1" say?

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Re: W32/Myparty

2002-02-09 Thread ben

On Saturday 09 February 2002 11:45 am, Brian Nelson wrote:
> Paul 'Baloo' Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Jeremy Gaddis wrote:
> > > > where did you extract from any part of my post to the list that i
> > > > welcome replies to my address? post it to the list, or not at all.
> > > > unless someone indicates that they want you to cc: to their address,
> > > > have some manners--don't do it. especially, now that you know that i
> > > > do not want you to cc: to may address, don't do it again.
> > >
> > > How's this you fucking bitch?
> >
> > Both of you, stop being so rude.  Ben, if you don't want private email,
> > either put a disclaimer on your mail or don't subscribe to lists.
>
> No, you use a "Mail-Copies-To: never" or "Mail-Copies-To: nobody" header
> and then any halfway decent mail client will honor that.  If it doesn't,
> then it shouldn't be used to reply to mailing lists.

alright. in order to close this, let me explain the circumstances around it. 
normally, if someone responds to me offlist, whether by cc'ing a list 
response or otherwise, if i'm willing to carry on the discussion off list, i 
do. if i'm not, i generally send a polite response asking them to keep it on 
the list and not cc my address. given the nature of the communication above 
with mr. gaddis, the response he got was, admittedly, not as polite as usual, 
and was an indulgence on my part. however, that response was sent to his 
private address in response to a reply sent to mine. i did not post it to the 
list as, to my mind, it had, at least until gaddis posted it here, nothing to 
do with the business of the list. i hope that's clear to those who've taken 
the time to offer solutions as to how i should deal with cc'ed list postings. 
to give gaddis credit, he did honor the request, and hasn't cc'ed me since 
then. as for what i should do with headers or disclaimers, i think that the 
previous method of a polite response requesting not to be cc'ed actually 
works, since, on occasion, it's beneficial to take a discussion offlist.

thanks for the helpful suggestions.

Re: GPG: key D5DE453D: invalid subkey binding

2002-02-09 Thread Osamu Aoki

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 04:04:52PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Sat, 09 Feb 2002, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> > What is the remedy?  Any pointer to information will be nice.
> 
> There is none.
Sad :( ...
> I gave up the entire pgp.net keyserver system, and since I loathe the
> non-DFSG-compliant keyserver.net crap, I've been using keyring.debian.org as
> the only keyserver where people can get a proper copy of my key (other than
> asking me for it directly, or finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]).

"keyserver.net" used to be usable but it started causing problem thus I
stopped using it a while ago.  That is not my option too.

If this is true, /usr/share/gnupg/option.skel must be modified.  It
said:

# GnuPG can import a key from a HKP keyerver if one is missing
# for certain operations. Is you set this option to a keyserver
# you will be asked in such a case whether GnuPG should try to
# import the key from that server (server do syncronize with each
# other and DNS Round-Robin may give you a random server each time).
# Use "host -l pgp.net | grep www" to figure out a keyserver.

There should be some warning of the bugs on those pgp.net keyservers.

Also, it looks like I can "send" my key to "keyring.debian.org" but I can
not "recv".  Maybe I have to wait CRON but...  (I am not a Debian
developer)

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Re: video card

2002-02-09 Thread Gerard Robin

On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 11:46:34PM -0600, Adam Majer wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 10:56:52PM +, Gerard Robin wrote:
..
> > My vendor suggest me to use the video card ATI expert 2000
> > with linux (my dist is potato 2.2r2 with xfree 3 )
..
> I found ATI to be the best supported cards in X (for open source drivers
> that is). I have ATI Radeon 64M DDR and I have great 3D performance. Better
> than under Windows 2000 and onward. At work, I have 2 Debian workstations
> with older ATI cards. One is Winboard and the other Rage 64 or something.
> Both work great but no 3D accel. of course :)
> 
> A friend of mine has NVideo GeForce 2 MX card and it seems to run fine with
> NVidia's drivers.  But the performance is a bit slower than with Radeon. But
> NVidia seems to be a good choice for.

Thanks all for your advices.
I find that it is important to choose the best card, but if I want run
linux, I have to choose the best card which have a good driver for linux  
and also its price don't exceed my purse :-)
-- 
Gerard

Re: xterm resource settings and woody

2002-02-09 Thread Cameron Kerr

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, CaT wrote:

>Just did an upgrade of my woody setup and found my xterm's default
>resource settings changed. Most annoying. Anyhow... in trying to change

Hmm, so /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm* mustn't be marked as a conf file
(perhaps).

>Anyhow... How can I do this? Can anyone help? The present settings hurt
>my eyes, give me an xterm that's 66 chars wide (when it was 80 before) a
>visual bell which is excessively annoying and a scrollbar that is useless
>to me due to my being happy in using the kboard to get around. Help...

Well thats not Debian defaults!

Personal settings should be made in your ~/.Xresources or ~/.Xdefaults
file. Once you've changed them, you can run xrdb -override ~/.Xresources,
and start a new xterm.

Personally, I also stick in my ~/.bashrc this,

if [ $TERM = "xterm" ]; then
TERM=xterm-color
fi

Hope this helps.
Cameron Kerr
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Re: Games on Linux?

2002-02-09 Thread Preben Randhol

D & E Radel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 08/02/2002 (12:53) :
> Sad to hear about Loki Game's demise. What good free/GPL 3D games are there
> for Linux, now that they are gone. Am I gonna be stuck with tuxracer? No
> disrespect
> for ol' tuxracer intended. :-)

What's wrong with IF games :-) ? 
   
   ftp://www.gmd.de/if-archive/games/

apt-get install xzip

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How can I install galeon?

2002-02-09 Thread stan

I've got a machien runing mostly woody packages, with
a few unstable packages thrown in. When I look in dselect,
I see galeon, yet when I try to isntall it, dslect complains
about the version of Mozilla, and one library.

How can I install galeon?

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neither liberty nor safety."
-- Benjamin Franklin

Re: Problem pinging gateway

2002-02-09 Thread Jon Hughes

whoops, yes, that is. it's just 192.168.0.1

my bad:)  fustrating day

--- Mike Dresser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > netstat -rn
> > Dest GW  Genmask Flags MSS Win irtt Iface
> > 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U  0 0 eth0
> > 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.0.1 0.0.0.0 YG 0 0 0 eth0
> 
> Is that 192.168.0.0.1 a typo?
> 
> mike
> 

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Re: Building custom kernel based off stock debian kernel

2002-02-09 Thread Ulrich Eckhardt

On Thursday 07 February 2002 22:49, Nick Jennings wrote:
>  *Please CC me in the response as I am not subscribed to debian-user*
>
> Hello.
>
>  I'd like to make a slight customization to the debian kernel. I do not
>  understand the debian packing scheme for getting the complete source
>  to the DEBIAN linux kernel (i.e. all patches applied and the .config
>  that is used for the debian kernel-images).
>
I just wrote some notes about the Debian way to build a kernel in the debian 
wiki at http://wiki.debian.net , maybe they are useful to you. Elxe, I would 
very much be interested in feedback.

cheers Uli

Re: W32/Myparty

2002-02-09 Thread Brian Nelson

Paul 'Baloo' Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Jeremy Gaddis wrote:
> 
> > > where did you extract from any part of my post to the list that i welcome
> > > replies to my address? post it to the list, or not at all. unless someone
> > > indicates that they want you to cc: to their address, have some
> > > manners--don't do it. especially, now that you know that i do not want 
> > > you to
> > > cc: to may address, don't do it again.
> >
> > How's this you fucking bitch?
> 
> Both of you, stop being so rude.  Ben, if you don't want private email,
> either put a disclaimer on your mail or don't subscribe to lists.

No, you use a "Mail-Copies-To: never" or "Mail-Copies-To: nobody" header
and then any halfway decent mail client will honor that.  If it doesn't,
then it shouldn't be used to reply to mailing lists.

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Re: Problem pinging gateway

2002-02-09 Thread Mike Dresser

> netstat -rn
> Dest  GW  Genmask Flags   MSS Win irtt Iface
> 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U  0 0 eth0
> 0.0.0.0   192.168.0.0.1   0.0.0.0 YG 0 0 0 eth0

Is that 192.168.0.0.1 a typo?

mike

Re: Where'd as go?

2002-02-09 Thread Colin Watson

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 12:43:30PM -0500, Rich Johnson wrote:
> Colin Watson wrote:
> > I've checked binutils_2.11.92.0.12.3-6_powerpc.deb, and it does indeed
> > contain /usr/bin/as. This wouldn't be something screwing up $PATH,
> > perhaps?
> 
> I must be missing something here:
> 
> -  $PATH looks fine
> -  /usr/bin/as does not exist.

That's really very odd. Could you have a look at the output of 'dpkg -c
/var/cache/apt/archives/binutils_2.11.92.0.12.3-6_powerpc.deb' and see
if it includes /usr/bin/as? If so, dpkg is screwing up - I'm not quite
sure how yet though.

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Problem pinging gateway

2002-02-09 Thread Jon Hughes

I have a new system that I'm setting up Debian 2.2 on.
 It's a dual boot and i have windows on the other 
side which at the moment recognizes the NIC, and can
surf the net without a problem.

The linux side appears to recognize the NIC, assigns
the IP and so forth. Netstat looks right. THe problem
is I can't even ping the gateway. I'm unsure what I'm
missing (may be something simple) so I'm fishing for
ideas.  (note: I'm behind a router, the other two
machines I have run debian and both are able to get
out).

ifconfig 
eth0  Link encap: Ethernet  HWAddr :mac address here>
inet addr: 192.168.0.3  Bcast: 192.168.0.255  Mask:
255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric: 1
RX Packets and TX packets change when i try to ping or
what not)
Collisions: 0  txqueuelen: 100
Interupt 10 Base address: 0xa800

lo Link encap: Local loopback
inet addr: 127.0.0.1 mask 255.0.0.0
UP LOOPBACK Running MTU: 3924 metrix:1


netstat -rn
DestGW  Genmask Flags   MSS Win irtt Iface
192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U  0 0 eth0
0.0.0.0 192.168.0.0.1   0.0.0.0 YG 0 0 0 eth0

(sorry about the formating there)
This netstat -rn looks similar to the netstat -rn on
another machine.

The computer does seem to recognize the network card
on bootup, and I can ping myself. I am unable to ping
outside anything else.

Any help would be much appreciated, this is pretty
much the last step before I can get this computer into
production and it's annoying as heck:)

Thanks
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Re: ati radeon XF86Config

2002-02-09 Thread ben

On Saturday 09 February 2002 10:31 am, Dan Owens wrote:
> On Saturday 09 February 2002 08:15 am, Timothy Burt wrote:
> > 2) Did you generate the config file by hand?  If not, you could try
> >to let X configure itself, with the -configure option (which will
> >generate an XF86Config-4 file for you).
>
> Would you please give the exact command you have in mind?  Configuring
> xfree86 is one of the worst things you need to do in Linux (in my opinion,
> of course).

this kind of begs the question--how are you creating the config file? also, i 
noticed in another post that your monitor is an nec. is it a multisync 
monitor? if so you should set up your config to accommodate that. check 
/var/log/XFree86.0.log--it will provide some clues about why x won't run.

Re: groups

2002-02-09 Thread Michel Loos

Em Sáb, 2002-02-09 às 15:57, Dimitri Maziuk escreveu:
> * Greg Murphy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> > I recently switched from slackware to debian. Under slack, when users were 
> > added they were defaultly added to the group "users". I see debian gives 
> > each 
> > user his/her own group.
> > 
> > 1. Why did debian adopt this method? 
> 
> ISTR that it was discussed way back... Try searching old debian-devel 
> archives maybe?
> 
> Basically, Unix ugo permissions suck -- they were OK in 1975 when
> computers weren't fast enough to support better security mechanisms,
> but in 2002 they're simly not fine-grained enough.
> 

Back to multics where the access control was really fine-grained

Michel.

Re: ati radeon XF86Config

2002-02-09 Thread csj

On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 00:36:53 -0800
Aaron Brashears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I just went out and got an ATI Radeon to replace my dusty old video
> card. However, X doesn't seem to like my configuration for it, and
> won't start as a result.
> 
> Can anyone supply a copy of their working XF86Config-4 they use with
> the ATI Radeon? Here's a few choice lines from my configuration - can
> you spot the error?
> 
> 
> Section "Device"
> Identifier  "ATI Radeon"
> Driver  "ati"
> #VideoRam65536
> # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
> EndSection
> Section "Screen"
> Identifier  "Screen 1"
> Device  "ATI Radeon"
> Monitor "NEC"
> DefaultDepth 24
> ...
> EndSection
> 

I let Branden take care of it ;-). The installation automagic mostly
works for me. Please note, however, that I'm using the Radeon VE. Not
all Radeons appear to be supported under x4.1.

FWIW here's the corresponding portion (extract) from my X config:

Section "Device"
Identifier  "MyRadeon"
Driver  "radeon"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "MyMonitor"
HorizSync   30-54
VertRefresh 50-85
Option  "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier  "Default Screen"
Device  "MyRadeon"
Monitor "MyMonitor"
DefaultDepth16
SubSection "Display"
Depth   1
Modes   "800x600"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   4
Modes   "800x600"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   8
Modes   "800x600"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   15
Modes   "800x600"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   16
Modes   "800x600"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   24
Modes   "800x600"
EndSubSection
EndSection

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Re: ati radeon XF86Config

2002-02-09 Thread Dan Owens

On Saturday 09 February 2002 08:15 am, Timothy Burt wrote:

>
> 2) Did you generate the config file by hand?  If not, you could try
>to let X configure itself, with the -configure option (which will
>generate an XF86Config-4 file for you).
>

Would you please give the exact command you have in mind?  Configuring 
xfree86 is one of the worst things you need to do in Linux (in my opinion, of 
course).

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Re: Alien/RPM keeps trying to kill KDE. Help?

2002-02-09 Thread Dimitri Maziuk

* Phil Edwards ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 02:21:24PM -0600, Chris Cheney wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 02:03:09PM -0500, Phil Edwards wrote:
> > > BUT
> > > 
> > > - librpm4 conflicts with librpm0, and
> > > 
> > > - something called "kpackage" depends on librpm0
> > 
> > This will hopefully be fixed very soon, since rpm had failed to build on
> > m68k but recently compiled correctly.
> 
> It's now been fixed.  Sweet.
> 
> 
> > > I don't use kpackage, but I can't remove it, because
> > > 
> > > - kde depends on kpackage
> > > 
> > > So anytime I try to do anything with 'rpm' dselect/apt-get attempts to
> > > remove the entire KDE suite.
> > 
> > Are you sure? The package kde itself is only a metapackage, removing it
> > would not cause any other kde applications to be removed.

Heh. I knew there was a reason I never used meta-packages, and
dropped dselect the moment aptitude was released.

FWIW, this does not happen with aptitude/kpackage and individual 
KDE packages selected (rather than KDE task package).

Dima
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Re: Networking - in theory

2002-02-09 Thread Dimitri Maziuk

* Curtis Vaughan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> Ok, a theoretical question.
> 
> If I wish to network linux computers along with Windows computers, it seems 
> that I have to have Samba server on each Linux workstation.
> 
> Is this correct?
> 
> Originally, it was my understanding that Samba server was installed only a 
> seperate box that was basically a gateway between, what we might call 2 
> 'networks'.

Not really. SMB is application-layer protocol for sharing files and
printers, like NFS (files) or IPP (printers). All these can happily
coexist on the same network.

It's client-server protocol, so you need a samba server on the box
that publishes samba shares, and samba client on the box that wants
to access them. The server is built into winders, so if you want to
access windows shares from a linux box, you need samba client on the
linux box. If you want to let windows boxen to access files/printers 
on a linux box, you need samba server on the linux box.

You can install samba server on every linux machine you want to get 
to from windoze. Or you can set up one "samba gateway" that mounts
linux filesystems via e.g. NFS, and exports them via SMB. Ditto with
printers. 

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Re: printing to samba

2002-02-09 Thread ben

On Saturday 09 February 2002 09:54 am, Robert L. Harris wrote:
> On a sid system, which package?  I'm just tired of fighting this friggin
> printer.
>
'apt-get install cupsys' did it for me.

btw, don't cc to my address. if i weren't reading the list, i wouldn't be 
writing to it, either.

Re: find

2002-02-09 Thread Antonio Alberto Lobato

Johannes Franken wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 02:48:36PM -0200, Antonio Alberto Lobato wrote:
> > # find /var/log -type f -exec echo -n > {} \;
> > Why find create a file called "{}", instead to erase files contents
>
> That's proper behavior.
>
> The "> {}" goes to your shell (creating that file), so the arguments
> left for find are: "/var/log -type f -exec echo -n"
> (yet another implementation of the NOP command).
>
> Try
> echo >/tmp/blankfile && find /var/log -type f -exec cp /tmp/blankfile {} \;
> instead.

But the files permissions/owner/group would be changed.






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Re: GPG: key D5DE453D: invalid subkey binding

2002-02-09 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh

On Sat, 09 Feb 2002, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> What is the remedy?  Any pointer to information will be nice.

There is none. One could get the keyserver software, and fix it (good luck,
that thing is NOT easy to grok), then waste a few days of machine cicles
purging all screwed up keys from the keyring...   And you would still risk
that people would ignore all your hard work, I suppose.

I gave up the entire pgp.net keyserver system, and since I loathe the
non-DFSG-compliant keyserver.net crap, I've been using keyring.debian.org as
the only keyserver where people can get a proper copy of my key (other than
asking me for it directly, or finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]).

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Sendmail access.db

2002-02-09 Thread John Cichy

Hello,

I'm at it again. I am currently trying to convert my mailserver to 
debian(woody). All works except using the access.db to decide who can RELAY. 
During installation and setup with dselect no mention of the access file or 
access.db is made. Can someone help me to turn this switch on?

TIA
John

Re: groups

2002-02-09 Thread Dimitri Maziuk

* Greg Murphy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> I recently switched from slackware to debian. Under slack, when users were 
> added they were defaultly added to the group "users". I see debian gives each 
> user his/her own group.
> 
> 1. Why did debian adopt this method? 

ISTR that it was discussed way back... Try searching old debian-devel 
archives maybe?

Basically, Unix ugo permissions suck -- they were OK in 1975 when
computers weren't fast enough to support better security mechanisms,
but in 2002 they're simly not fine-grained enough.

In slack (all users belong to us^W the same group), if your files 
are group-readable, every user can read them. In debian they can't,
you have to add people to your group if you want them to read your
files => more fine-grained control.

The downside is that number of groups a user can belong to is 
limited (32 by default, IIRC), and with debian's tendency to have 
a separate group for everything (audio, ppp, cdrom, ...) it's very 
easy to run out.

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Re: find

2002-02-09 Thread Antonio Alberto Lobato

Pedro Zorzenon Neto wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 02:48:36PM -0200, Antonio Alberto Lobato wrote:
> >
> >  # find /var/log -type f -exec echo -n > {} \;
> >
> >  Why find create a file called "{}", instead to erase files contents?
>
> Oi!
>
>From the find manpage:
>
>-exec command ;
>   Execute command; true if 0 status is returned.  All
>   following arguments to find are taken to  be  argu
>   ments  to  the command until an argument consisting
>   of `;' is encountered.  The string `{}' is replaced
>   by the current file name being processed everywhere
>   it occurs in the arguments to the command, not just
>   in arguments where it is alone, as in some versions
>   of find.  Both of these constructions might need to
>   be  escaped  (with a `\') or quoted to protect them
>   from expansion by the shell.  The command  is  exe
>   cuted in the starting directory.
>
>Try replacing the ">" with "\>"
>
>Ate mais,
>  Pedro

Thanks, but...
It does not work. I already had tried.





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Re: printing to samba

2002-02-09 Thread Robert L. Harris



On a sid system, which package?  I'm just tired of fighting this friggin
printer.

Thus spake ben ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> On Saturday 09 February 2002 09:12 am, Robert L. Harris wrote:
> > I've given up on getting my hp882c to print under linux.  Filters dont
> > work, etc.
> >
> 
> have you tried installing cups? if not, it's definitely worth the time it 
> takes to investigate.
> 
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Re: printing to samba

2002-02-09 Thread dman

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 09:49:00AM -0800, ben wrote:
| On Saturday 09 February 2002 09:12 am, Robert L. Harris wrote:
| > I've given up on getting my hp882c to print under linux.  Filters dont
| > work, etc.
| 
| have you tried installing cups? if not, it's definitely worth the time it 
| takes to investigate.

Definitely!  It is easy to setup the ready-made "drivers" (or filters,
or whatever you want to call it) to print directly to the printer, or
to use a shared-via-samba printer or to share a printer to a windows
box.

-D

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Re: find

2002-02-09 Thread Johannes Franken

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 02:48:36PM -0200, Antonio Alberto Lobato wrote:
> # find /var/log -type f -exec echo -n > {} \;
> Why find create a file called "{}", instead to erase files contents

That's proper behavior.

The "> {}" goes to your shell (creating that file), so the arguments
left for find are: "/var/log -type f -exec echo -n"
(yet another implementation of the NOP command).

Try 
echo >/tmp/blankfile && find /var/log -type f -exec cp /tmp/blankfile {} \;
instead.

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Re: printing to samba

2002-02-09 Thread ben

On Saturday 09 February 2002 09:12 am, Robert L. Harris wrote:
> I've given up on getting my hp882c to print under linux.  Filters dont
> work, etc.
>

have you tried installing cups? if not, it's definitely worth the time it 
takes to investigate.

Re: sources.list question

2002-02-09 Thread Patrick Kirk

[snip]

> I remember pine is only available as source due to licensing issue and
> removed from binary distribution.  If I were desparate, I might download
> source package and compile.  (Which I believe comes with pico.)
> 
> But, I will recommend you to move to "mutt" if you used "pine" or 
> "elm".  As for "pico", install "nano".
> 
so what is non-free for if it doesn't cover things like pine?  

Nano is fine btw - I'm just asking out of curiosity now.
>

Re: Where'd as go?

2002-02-09 Thread Rich Johnson

Colin Watson wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 01:34:15PM -0500, Rich Johnson wrote:
> > I've got a new powerpc woody system up and running, but I cant compile
> > because
> > ...cannot exec 'as':  No such file or directory.
> >
> > Contents-powerpc tells me the assember should be part of
> > devel/binutils.  I've installed binutils-2.11.92.0.12.3-6 but still no
> > as.
>
> I've checked binutils_2.11.92.0.12.3-6_powerpc.deb, and it does indeed
> contain /usr/bin/as. This wouldn't be something screwing up $PATH,
> perhaps?

I must be missing something here:

-  $PATH looks fine
-  /usr/bin/as does not exist.
-  dpkg -S /usr/bin/asreports:  "dpkg: /usr/bin/as not found"
-  dpkg -L binutils   lists no executables, only doc, man and locale
entries--see below.
-  I've installed/uninstalled, purged, removed and manually deleted and
refetched the binutils...deb--all with the same result.

Any help would be appreciated.

dpkg -L binutils reports:
/.
/usr
/usr/share
/usr/share/doc
/usr/share/doc/binutils
/usr/share/doc/binutils/gas
/usr/share/doc/binutils/gas/NEWS.gz
/usr/share/doc/binutils/gas/ChangeLog.gz
/usr/share/doc/binutils/gprof
/usr/share/doc/binutils/gprof/TODO
/usr/share/doc/binutils/gprof/ChangeLog.linux
/usr/share/doc/binutils/gprof/TEST
/usr/share/doc/binutils/gprof/bbconv.pl
/usr/share/doc/binutils/gprof/ChangeLog.gz
/usr/share/doc/binutils/ld
/usr/share/doc/binutils/ld/NEWS.gz
/usr/share/doc/binutils/ld/TODO
/usr/share/doc/binutils/ld/ChangeLog.linux
/usr/share/doc/binutils/ld/ChangeLog.gz
/usr/share/doc/binutils/bfd
/usr/share/doc/binutils/bfd/PORTING
/usr/share/doc/binutils/bfd/TODO
/usr/share/doc/binutils/bfd/ChangeLog.gz
/usr/share/doc/binutils/bfd/ChangeLog.linux.gz
/usr/share/doc/binutils/NEWS.gz
/usr/share/doc/binutils/ChangeLog.linux
/usr/share/doc/binutils/copyright
/usr/share/doc/binutils/ChangeLog.gz
/usr/share/doc/binutils/test-summary.gz
/usr/share/doc/binutils/changelog.Debian.gz
/usr/share/info
/usr/share/man
/usr/share/man/man1
/usr/share/man/man1/ar.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/dlltool.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/nlmconv.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/nm.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/objcopy.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/objdump.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/ranlib.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/readelf.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/size.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/strings.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/strip.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/windres.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/c++filt.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/as.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/ld.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/gasp.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/addr2line.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/gprof.1.gz
/usr/share/locale
/usr/share/locale/fr
/usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES
/usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/bfd.mo
/usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/opcodes.mo
/usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/binutils.mo

Re: find

2002-02-09 Thread Pedro Zorzenon Neto

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 02:48:36PM -0200, Antonio Alberto Lobato wrote:
> 
>  # find /var/log -type f -exec echo -n > {} \;
> 
>  Why find create a file called "{}", instead to erase files contents?

Oi!

   From the find manpage:

   -exec command ;
  Execute command; true if 0 status is returned.  All
  following arguments to find are taken to  be  argu
  ments  to  the command until an argument consisting
  of `;' is encountered.  The string `{}' is replaced
  by the current file name being processed everywhere
  it occurs in the arguments to the command, not just
  in arguments where it is alone, as in some versions
  of find.  Both of these constructions might need to
  be  escaped  (with a `\') or quoted to protect them
  from expansion by the shell.  The command  is  exe
  cuted in the starting directory.

   Try replacing the ">" with "\>"

   Ate mais,
 Pedro

Re: Squid - Had to "recreate" the cache...

2002-02-09 Thread Johannes Franken

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 02:36:23PM -0200, Pedro Zorzenon Neto wrote:
>Did squid cache got corrupted? why? what happened?

check /var/log/squid/squid.out*

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printing to samba

2002-02-09 Thread Robert L. Harris



I've given up on getting my hp882c to print under linux.  Filters dont
work, etc.  

I've attached the sucker to a P200 windows box and shared it out.
Windows boxes can print correctly now.  (Aka, wife can print her
research)  Is there a way using samba without filters or the like that I
can put a couple lines in my printcap to print from my debian boxes?


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Re: File permissions with 2.4 kernel

2002-02-09 Thread Osamu Aoki

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 03:39:47PM +0100, Martin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Whenever I mount a filesystem (Woody) without file permissions (like 
> vfat, iso9660), all files are marked as executable -- this is quite 
> annoying because then the syntax highlighting on the console is irritating.
> 
> I think this is caused by the new kernel.  When I boot the same system 
> with an older kernel (2.2), everything is all right (no x-flag on cdroms 
> e.g.).  Booting again with kernel 2.4.16 produces the problem described 
> above ...
> 
> What can I do?  Is there a kernel patch available?

Edit /etc/fstab and set mount option, I think.  Discussed few times
recently.
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Re: sources.list question

2002-02-09 Thread Osamu Aoki

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 04:36:28PM -0800, Patrick Kirk wrote:
>   deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
>   deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib
> non-free
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> My sources list is above.  I can't find pine, pico or smbpasswd.  Is there
> something essential I messed up when I changed from stable to woody?

You are OK.  Here is result from my box(testing/unstable, read "man 
apt_preferences"
to set up  properly.  My web page has more info.)

$ apt-cache policy pine pico smbpasswd
pine:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: (none)
  Version Table:
W: Unable to locate package pico
W: Unable to locate package smbpasswd

I remember pine is only available as source due to licensing issue and
removed from binary distribution.  If I were desparate, I might download
source package and compile.  (Which I believe comes with pico.)

But, I will recommend you to move to "mutt" if you used "pine" or 
"elm".  As for "pico", install "nano".

As for "smbpasswd",

$ dpkg -S smbpasswd
...
samba-common: /usr/bin/smbpasswd

So it is now in samba-common.

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find

2002-02-09 Thread Antonio Alberto Lobato


Hi all!


In the command below,

# find /var/log -type f -exec echo -n > {} \;

Why find create a file called "{}", instead to erase files contents
?





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Re: groups

2002-02-09 Thread Osamu Aoki

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 01:24:29AM -0600, Greg Murphy wrote:
> I recently switched from slackware to debian. Under slack, when users were 
> added they were defaultly added to the group "users". I see debian gives each 
> user his/her own group.
> 
> 1. Why did debian adopt this method? 

Same reason as RedHat :) (I actually do not know.  I like this.)

> 2. If say, I want to add two of my users to the same group, is it safe to add 
> them to the already existing "users (GID=100)" group, or is this reserved for 
> some program that comes with debian?
In "debian-policy" package, there exists a document called policy:
 (Section 10)
 Some user ids (UIDs) and group ids (GIDs) are reserved globally for
 use by certain packages.  Because some packages need to include files
 which are owned by these users or groups, or need the ids compiled
 into binaries, these ids must be used on any Debian system only for
 the purpose for which they are allocated.  This is a serious
 restriction, and we should avoid getting in the way of local
 administration policies.  In particular, many sites allocate users
 and/or local system groups starting at 100.
...
 1000-2:
  Dynamically allocated user accounts.  By default `adduser' will
  choose UIDs and GIDs for user accounts in this range, though
  `adduser.conf' may be used to modify this behavior.

I say, just change /etc/adduser.conf.  Details in "man adduser.conf"
Also check document for "base-passwd" package too.
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Squid - Had to "recreate" the cache...

2002-02-09 Thread Pedro Zorzenon Neto

Hi Folks,

   It installed Squid in a server three months ago and I had no problem
with it since the instalation date.

   But yesterday, it stopped working well. It only sent to clients the
first 6910 bytes of the page and then stopped. Every computer in the
localnet using it as a proxy, only could browse pages with less then
this size...

   I tried /etc/init.d/squid restart

   I tried /etc/init.d/squid stop; /etc/init.d/squid start

   They did not work...

   After some hours, I could make it work again doing:

   /etc/init.d/squid stop
   rm -rf /var/spool/squid
   squid -z
   /etc/init.d/squid start

   Did squid cache got corrupted? why? what happened?

   Did anyone had the same problem?

Thanks in advance,
Pedro

sources.list question

2002-02-09 Thread Patrick Kirk

  deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
  deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib
non-free

Hi all,

My sources list is above.  I can't find pine, pico or smbpasswd.  Is there
something essential I messed up when I changed from stable to woody?

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Re: groups

2002-02-09 Thread Colin Watson

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 01:24:29AM -0600, Greg Murphy wrote:
> I recently switched from slackware to debian. Under slack, when users
> were added they were defaultly added to the group "users". I see
> debian gives each user his/her own group.
> 
> 1. Why did debian adopt this method? 

I don't know why it was originally adopted, but I can tell you why I
think it's a good idea. If you're working on a shared project with
another user, you'll want to make sure those files are group-writeable.
If you have all users in the same group, then it's not safe for any user
to have umask 002 by default, because everybody will be able to write to
all the files in their home directory. On the other hand, they'll have
to remember to use umask 002 when working on shared files, because
otherwise those files will only be writeable by them.

With one group per user, umask 002 is safe. All the files in your home
directory can be group-writeable, and it makes no difference - but when
you go to work on a shared project you don't have to remember to switch
the umask over.

(Another answer to this problem is "use CVS", granted, but I don't think
revision control is appropriate for each and every shared project.)

> 2. If say, I want to add two of my users to the same group, is it safe
> to add them to the already existing "users (GID=100)" group, or is
> this reserved for some program that comes with debian?

Go ahead, although personally I'd create a new group.

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