Re: Reducing font size in X

2002-04-07 Thread Jason Chambers



Crispin Wellington wrote:

On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 02:59, Erik van der Meulen wrote:


Dear group - I have just installed a Sid box supposed to run only X and
Galeon. I found that the default install leves me with rather large
fonts for the applications.
I recall having solved this before by exchanging the FontPath for 100dpi
and 75dpi in XF86Config. Now I have tried this again without success.
I have noticed a new FontPath on top of the config file:

 FontPath "unix/:7100"


That'll be the X-font server.

Changing the 100dpi/75dpi fonts around is the answer but as you're 
running an x-font server, you need to edit it's configuration file to do 
that.


The config file is /etc/X11/fs/config and you need to look for a line 
starting 'catalogue =' - this is a list of font paths in the order it 
uses them. Remember to restart the font server (xfs) as well as X itself.




I suppose this has something to do with it (in fact I am sure, if I
comment that line, things work as expected).

Can someone point me to the mechanism for changing the font size here?

Thanks a lot!



You could list all you fonts in the font path, both the 75 dpi and 100
dpi ones. Then change the dpi setting of the xserver by editing
/etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc and altering the value after the -dpi flag.

Don't know if that will solve your problem. Just an idea.

Crispin Wellington







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Re: Reducing font size in X

2002-04-07 Thread Andy Saxena
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 08:59:58PM +0200, Erik van der Meulen wrote:
> Dear group - I have just installed a Sid box supposed to run only X and
> Galeon. I found that the default install leves me with rather large
> fonts for the applications.
> I recall having solved this before by exchanging the FontPath for 100dpi
> and 75dpi in XF86Config. Now I have tried this again without success.
> I have noticed a new FontPath on top of the config file:
> 
>   FontPath "unix/:7100"

Just an FYI: The above line refers to the font server port. Opinions may
differ but, if you are running the latest version of X, a font server is
not necessary.

Could you please post the "Files" and "Modules" section of the
XF86Config-4 file?

-Andy


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lilo, 3 disks, 6 controllers

2002-04-07 Thread Michael West
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 08:26:45PM -0800, web wrote:
>  I would like to change which controllers my disks are on, but when I do my
>  system no longer boots.  
>  
>  I have three ide drives on hde, hdi, and hdk.  My main system is
>  completely on hdk.  I boot into hdk.  If I move the other two drives I
>  can no longer boot into hdk. 
>  
>  Depending on where I move the other drives I get one of two results when
>  I try to boot into hdk again.
>  
>  1.  Usually I get 'L 01 01 01 01 01 01...'  Repeating O1's forever.  
>   For instance, this happens if I simply remove one of the other two
>   drives.  According to the lilo users guide "this shouldn't happen"
>  
>  2.  Sometimes I get "Not a System Disk", that is, I don't even get lilo
>  started.  
>  For instance, this happens if I move hde->hdi and hdi->hda. 
>  
>  hde and hdg are an off board promise controller.  
>  I would like to remove this controller, but without it my system will
>  not boot.
>  
>  I realize that once I get this working I will need to modify /etc/fstab.
>  
>  Thanks for your help.
>  


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Unidentified subject!

2002-04-07 Thread Michael West
 I would like to change which controllers my disks are on, but when I do my
 system no longer boots.  
 
 I have three ide drives on hde, hdi, and hdk.  My main system is
 completely on hdk.  I boot into hdk.  If I move the other two drives I
 can no longer boot into hdk. 
 
 Depending on where I move the other drives I get one of two results when
 I try to boot into hdk again.
 
 1.  Usually I get 'L 01 01 01 01 01 01...'  Repeating O1's forever.  
  For instance, this happens if I simply remove one of the other two
  drives.  According to the lilo users guide "this shouldn't happen"
 
 2.  Sometimes I get "Not a System Disk", that is, I don't even get lilo
 started.  
 For instance, this happens if I move hde->hdi and hdi->hda. 
 
 hde and hdg are an off board promise controller.  
 I would like to remove this controller, but without it my system will
 not boot.
 
 I realize that once I get this working I will need to modify /etc/fstab.
 
 Thanks for your help.
 


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Re: exim not sending mail

2002-04-07 Thread dman
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 06:29:40PM -0700, Joe Heuring wrote:
 
| Exim version 3.34 #1 built 19-Jan-2002 17:51:35
 
| Hello all.  I've asked for help on this to another group and hope I'm 
| not cross posting to early but it's Sunday and I would really like my 
| mutt back as I have to type a bunch of emails tonight.  (this message 
| brought to   you by mozilla - there's not a way to incorporate VI into 
| Mozilla is there?)

Not that I know of.

| Basically what's going on is exim is not sending mail and is not giving 
| me any error messages except for in the logs. 

That's where error messages go :-).  Daemons don't have a "stdout".

| Now no mail gets sent.  Mutt tells me "message sent"  no errors nothing 
| in my default mbox

Mutt did send the message.  It sends to a pipe to "sendmail" (a
symlink to the exim binary).  exim accepted the mail.  mutt's job is
now done, it has successfully sent it ... to the next link in the
chain.

| mail was not sent

The next link (exim) failed to pass the message on to the link after
it.  This is what we will correct.

| checking /var/log/exim/mainlog  I see at a rate of about 60/second is 
| inputed a ton of:
| 
| 2002-04-07 17:40:12 16kWfM-0004qW-00 Message is frozen

You've got 60 frozen messages I guess :-).

| checking /var/spool/exim/msglog is a bunch of files that read like:

Hmm, that's a different log than I have.  Do you mean "mainlog"?

| 2002-04-07 10:34:04 directing failed for [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
| <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: unknown local-part "joeheuring" in domain "cox.net"
| *** Frozen (delivery error message)
| 
| I'm not sure what exim is trying to do here.

I see exactly what the problem is.  You have sent a message that
should be delivered to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".  HOWEVER, you told exim
that your own machine is "cox.net".  You don't want to do that.  Do
you have your own domain name?  If not, then make something up
(something like `hostname`) to tell exim who it is.  At any rate, you
are not "cox.net", and you'll have lots of trouble trying to send a
message to anyone at cox.net right now.

| Mozilla writes my header as Joe Heuring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and it works.

Mozilla doesn't send outgoing mail through exim, AFAIK.  It does the
SMTP negotion directly (which is not a good idea for various reasons).


In your /etc/exim/exim.conf file you'll see a line like
local_domains = cox.net : localhost
remove the "cox.net" from it (and the ':', it's the list element
separator).  Alternatively you can simply rerun 'eximconfig' and
_don't_ tell it that the local domain is "cox.net".  If you want some
instruction on what the questions eximconfig asks mean, try this
message :
http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-user%40lists.debian.org/msg82754.html

HTH,
-D

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Re: Reducing font size in X

2002-04-07 Thread Crispin Wellington
On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 02:59, Erik van der Meulen wrote:
> Dear group - I have just installed a Sid box supposed to run only X and
> Galeon. I found that the default install leves me with rather large
> fonts for the applications.
> I recall having solved this before by exchanging the FontPath for 100dpi
> and 75dpi in XF86Config. Now I have tried this again without success.
> I have noticed a new FontPath on top of the config file:
> 
>   FontPath "unix/:7100"
> 
> I suppose this has something to do with it (in fact I am sure, if I
> comment that line, things work as expected).
> 
> Can someone point me to the mechanism for changing the font size here?
> 
> Thanks a lot!

You could list all you fonts in the font path, both the 75 dpi and 100
dpi ones. Then change the dpi setting of the xserver by editing
/etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc and altering the value after the -dpi flag.

Don't know if that will solve your problem. Just an idea.

Crispin Wellington



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Re: Ultra 5

2002-04-07 Thread Tom Cook
On  0, Aravind Vinnakota <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all!
>   I just started using Debian. I am trying to install debian on Sun Ultra
> 5 machine. I tried 3 different ways to install it but could'nt:
> 
> 1) I downloaded the CD images. I tried to burn it on CDs but the images
> seem to be larger than the CD size. So, I could'nt burn the CDs.
> 
> 2) Then I downloaded just the minimal CD image and burnt it on a CD. Then
> I inserted the CD into the CDROM drive and used the command $> boot cdrom
> to boot from the CD, but I am getting the error "Bad magic number on disk
> label". So, I could'nt boot from the CDROM
> 
> 3) Then I downloaded the floppy image (rescue.bin and driver-1.bin) and
> tried to copy them onto floppies. But again the same space
> problem. The files are larger than the floppy disk size. Also from the
> documentation, I could understand that we cant boot from floppy drive in
> case of Ultra sparcs. Any suggestions? I think many of you were able to
> burn it onto CDs and floppies?

Are you sure you are doing the right things with the images?  Everyone
else manages to get the images onto the media...

Are you writing the image to the media as a raw image, or as a file on
the media?  For instance, are you making the floppies like this:

# mount /floppy
# cp image-file /floppy

or like this

# cat image-file > /dev/fd0

or

# dd if=image-file of=/dev/fd0 bs=1k

?

If the first, then that is wrong.  You need to completely overwrite
the floppy with the image, including the filesystem tables and
things.  If the second then that is very strange and I don't know
what's going on.

Tom
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Re: system logs not getting rotated

2002-04-07 Thread Rick Pasotto
Thanks. With your help I have found what the problem *is*. Now I'd like
to know *why* and *how* the problem came to be.

The cron.daily/sysklogd script passes the argument 'reload-or-restart'
to /etc/init.d/sysklogd *however* that is not one of the options in the
case statement. There are only a 'reload|force-reload' and a 'restart'.
The cron.daily/sysklogd script was getting a usage message which went to
the bit bucket.

I have never manually edited *any* of these scripts. Any changes have
been done via apt-get.

Woody needs to be checked to verify that the problem doesn't still
exist.

On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 12:54:20PM -0500, Mark S. Reglewski wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:50:19AM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> > ii  logrotate  3.5.9-7Log rotation utility
> > 
> > For several weeks now my system logs have not been getting rotated. All
> > logging is going to the .0 files. syslog, daemon.log, auth.log, etc.
> > remain at zero length and syslog.0, daemon.log.0, auth.log.0, etc keep
> > growing. If I reboot logging goes to the correct file until the first
> > rotation.
> > 
> > Is this a config problem or is there a problem with whichever program
> > (logrotate?) does the rotating? Doesn't klogd need to be told to close
> > the old file and open the new one? Where does that happen?
> > 
> > I find no reference to these files in either logrotate.d or
> > logrotate.conf nor in the system crontabs. Where is this setup?
> 
> Rick, logrotate has nothing to do with the files you are interested in, as
> you see from logrotate.conf.  
> 
> Look at your /etc/cron.daily/sysklogd and /etc/cron.weekly/sysklogd scripts. 
> They use the /usr/bin/savelog utility to rotate system logs.  If log
> rotation is broken on your system, something must be wrong here.
> 
> You might want to look at man savelog and man syslogd-listfiles.
> 
> Do you use exim as MTA?  Exim log rotation is handled by
> /etc/cron.daily/exim, also using savelog.  Are your exim logs being rotated
> okay?  If so, you'll have a working log rotation script for comparison.
> 
> Cordially,
> Mark S. Reglewski
>   
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Building a single user Internet terminal

2002-04-07 Thread Crispin Wellington
On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 00:52, Erik van der Meulen wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 09:47:38PM +0800, Crispin Wellington wrote:
> 
> > > Also I have made this, only containing 'startx'.
> > > Now if I reboot, I see no X, but a message repeating:
> > > 
> > >   X: user not authorised to run the X server, aborting.
> 
> > The su -c command should change to a acceptable user. Interesting error.
> > If you change su -c /usr/local/bin/runkiosk kioskuser to su -c
> > /usr/local/bin/runkiosk root, does it work? (not that thats a solution,
> > just helps in locating the problem)
> 
> I did as you suggested and am now running successfully as root!
> As you said, not the best solution, but I do not understand why
> the userid kioskuser does not work...
> 
> Curious for any more thoughts...

We should be able to get it running at a user level.

What does your /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config say? Try changing
allowed_users=console to allowed_users=anybody
Change the su command back to the kioskuser.

Does that work?

Kind Regards
Crispin Wellington


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Re: apache/php...feeling like an idiot

2002-04-07 Thread Bill Bell
Quoting Matthew Daubenspeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:36:06PM -0400, Jeff Maxson wrote:
> > 
> > so, in attempts to learn some things, I want to get the seemingly
> standard
> > apache/php/mysql trio on my box all playing nicely.  I now have mysql
> on
> > pretty peachy, and apache seems to spew out the html documents I want.
>  I
> > have apt-got php4 and php4-mysql and a couple other things as well.
> > However, if I try to get my apache server to serve up a php file, all
> the
> > browsers I've tried pop-up a "file save as" screen wanting me to
> download
> > this file.  I believe there is something goofy in my
> > /etc/apache/httpd.conf file in that I am not loading some modules
> the
> > right way.
> > 
> > To get this working,
> > 1) which modules need to be loaded for apache to work like it should
> with
> > php?
> > 2) once the proper changes are made to the httpd.conf file, how do I
> > "activate" my changes?
> 
> apachectl restart
> 
> > 3) is the problem not in the httpd.conf file?
> > 4) is there something I need to apt-get that would have configured
> this
> > correctly "out-of-the-box" (during the apt-getting installation?)
> 
> Shouldn't. Both the potato and woody versions I have used worked
> directly out of the box after I restarted apache.
> 
> 

I have had this after a manual edit on my httpd.conf file.  Make sure that the 
DirectoryIndex line includes index.php3 and index.php entries.

example:


DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm manual.html index.shtml index.cgi 
index.php3 index.php



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Re: Ultra 5

2002-04-07 Thread Ben Collins
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 09:25:57PM -0400, Aravind Vinnakota wrote:
> Hi all!
>   I just started using Debian. I am trying to install debian on Sun Ultra
> 5 machine. I tried 3 different ways to install it but could'nt:
> 
> 1) I downloaded the CD images. I tried to burn it on CDs but the images
> seem to be larger than the CD size. So, I could'nt burn the CDs.
> 
> 2) Then I downloaded just the minimal CD image and burnt it on a CD. Then
> I inserted the CD into the CDROM drive and used the command $> boot cdrom
> to boot from the CD, but I am getting the error "Bad magic number on disk
> label". So, I could'nt boot from the CDROM
> 
> 3) Then I downloaded the floppy image (rescue.bin and driver-1.bin) and
> tried to copy them onto floppies. But again the same space
> problem. The files are larger than the floppy disk size. Also from the
> documentation, I could understand that we cant boot from floppy drive in
> case of Ultra sparcs. Any suggestions? I think many of you were able to
> burn it onto CDs and floppies?

You wont be able to boot an Ultra5 using floppy. The OBP is buggy.

Try these images:

http://auric.debian.org/~bcollins/disks-sparc/current/

This will install woody. You'll have to read the docs on netbooting
(pretty easy).

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make customized woody bootable CD within 180MB

2002-04-07 Thread Patrick Hsieh
Hello list,

I am working on debian-cd utility to make my own customized woody
bootable CD iso. Well, now that I could use dpkg --get-selections to
figure out the package list I"ve installed in my system, I hope to pull
them altogether into 1 bootable CD. What should I do with debian-cd
package? 

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borken laptop-net

2002-04-07 Thread Jerome Lacoste \(Work\)
I've had trouble to install the new laptop-net package from unstable
(2.7.1).

I've had to purge the former install, touch a file
(/etc/default/laptop-net), and select non-debconf maintained handling of
schemes and other configuration files  in order to be able to install
it.

I couldn't get an output of what was going wrong. There 

Jerome




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Re: exim not sending mail

2002-04-07 Thread Mark S. Reglewski
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 06:29:40PM -0700, Joe Heuring wrote:

> I'm not sure what exim is trying to do here.  "joe" is my user name on 
> the computer  joeheuring is my email name for cox.net
> 
> my /etc/aliases has always read
> 
> joeheuring: joe

Hello Joe,

Not an exim expert here by any means, but it's worth checking
/etc/email-addresses.  There's a bit of magic in the REWRITE CONFIGURATION
section of /etc/exim.conf that uses this file.  You should have a line that
associates your local login name with your real email address at your ISP. 
In your case it would be something like:

joe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

or whatever the correct info is in your case.

If this was somehow changed it would break your outgoing mail.

Cordially,
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Re: apache/php...feeling like an idiot

2002-04-07 Thread Matthew Daubenspeck
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:36:06PM -0400, Jeff Maxson wrote:
> 
> so, in attempts to learn some things, I want to get the seemingly standard
> apache/php/mysql trio on my box all playing nicely.  I now have mysql on
> pretty peachy, and apache seems to spew out the html documents I want.  I
> have apt-got php4 and php4-mysql and a couple other things as well.
> However, if I try to get my apache server to serve up a php file, all the
> browsers I've tried pop-up a "file save as" screen wanting me to download
> this file.  I believe there is something goofy in my
> /etc/apache/httpd.conf file in that I am not loading some modules the
> right way.
> 
> To get this working,
> 1) which modules need to be loaded for apache to work like it should with
> php?
> 2) once the proper changes are made to the httpd.conf file, how do I
> "activate" my changes?

apachectl restart

> 3) is the problem not in the httpd.conf file?
> 4) is there something I need to apt-get that would have configured this
> correctly "out-of-the-box" (during the apt-getting installation?)

Shouldn't. Both the potato and woody versions I have used worked
directly out of the box after I restarted apache.


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apache/php...feeling like an idiot

2002-04-07 Thread Jeff Maxson

so, in attempts to learn some things, I want to get the seemingly standard
apache/php/mysql trio on my box all playing nicely.  I now have mysql on
pretty peachy, and apache seems to spew out the html documents I want.  I
have apt-got php4 and php4-mysql and a couple other things as well.
However, if I try to get my apache server to serve up a php file, all the
browsers I've tried pop-up a "file save as" screen wanting me to download
this file.  I believe there is something goofy in my
/etc/apache/httpd.conf file in that I am not loading some modules the
right way.

To get this working,
1) which modules need to be loaded for apache to work like it should with
php?
2) once the proper changes are made to the httpd.conf file, how do I
"activate" my changes?
3) is the problem not in the httpd.conf file?
4) is there something I need to apt-get that would have configured this
correctly "out-of-the-box" (during the apt-getting installation?)

Here's the modules section for your perusal (the next-to-the-last line I
uncommented myself, but don't know if that is all, and don't know how to
activate it:

# Please keep this LoadModule: line here, it is needed for installation.
# LoadModule vhost_alias_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_vhost_alias.so
# LoadModule env_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_env.so
LoadModule config_log_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_log_config.so
# LoadModule mime_magic_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_mime_magic.so
LoadModule mime_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_mime.so
LoadModule negotiation_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_negotiation.so
LoadModule status_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_status.so
# LoadModule info_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_info.so
# LoadModule includes_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_include.so
LoadModule autoindex_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_autoindex.so
LoadModule dir_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_dir.so
LoadModule cgi_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_cgi.so
# LoadModule asis_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_asis.so
# LoadModule imap_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_imap.so
# LoadModule action_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_actions.so
# LoadModule speling_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_speling.so
LoadModule userdir_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_userdir.so
LoadModule alias_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_alias.so
LoadModule rewrite_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_rewrite.so
LoadModule access_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_access.so
LoadModule auth_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_auth.so
# LoadModule anon_auth_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_auth_anon.so
# LoadModule dbm_auth_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_auth_dbm.so
# LoadModule db_auth_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_auth_db.so
# LoadModule proxy_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libproxy.so
# LoadModule digest_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_digest.so
# LoadModule cern_meta_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_cern_meta.so
LoadModule expires_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_expires.so
# LoadModule headers_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_headers.so
# LoadModule usertrack_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_usertrack.so
LoadModule unique_id_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_unique_id.so
LoadModule setenvif_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_setenvif.so
# LoadModule sys_auth_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_auth_sys.so
# LoadModule put_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_put.so
# LoadModule throttle_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_throttle.so
# LoadModule allowdev_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_allowdev.so
# LoadModule eaccess_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_eaccess.so
LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so
# LoadModule roaming_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_roaming.so


Furthermore, an "apache -l" from the command line gives:

Compiled-in modules:
  http_core.c
  mod_so.c
  mod_macro.c
suexec: enabled; valid wrapper /usr/lib/apache/suexec


Any help that you can give this wayward chap would be appreciated...


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Read: ÍøÕ¾±à¼­:ÄúºÃ

2002-04-07 Thread Dave Scott
<>

Read: ÍøÕ¾±à¼­:ÄúºÃ

2002-04-07 Thread Dave Scott
<>

Read: ÍøÕ¾±à¼­:ÄúºÃ

2002-04-07 Thread Dave Scott
<>

Read: ÍøÕ¾±à¼­:ÄúºÃ

2002-04-07 Thread Dave Scott
<>

Re: fatal error: no screens found

2002-04-07 Thread dave mallery
On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Simon Hepburn wrote:

> > (**) MGA(0): Using framebuffer device
> 
> You aren't using the framebuffer.
> 
> > Section "Device"
> > Identifier  "Generic Video Card"
> > Driver  "mga"
> 
> Comment out this line:
> ># Option  "UseFBDev"  "true"
> 
> > Videoram32768
> > EndSection
> 
thank you so very much for the above... i'd been stuck all day.

a sorta wierd window, with panels huge and xterms regular, but an X 
window!

later

dave
 

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Not read: ÍøÕ¾±à¼­:ÄúºÃ

2002-04-07 Thread Mike
<>

debian woody cds

2002-04-07 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I'm having no problem understanding what files to download with jigdo for the
latest official release.
But I am confused by the raw.jigdo and raw.template listings in the woody
directory.
Do I need all 8 of the jigdo ones and, if so, what are the template ones for?
TIA.


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Re: Which deb includes libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2?

2002-04-07 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, Apr 08, 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 04:55:43PM -0500, Curt Daugaard wrote:
> 
> > If anyone can identify the package, I'd be grateful.  (I'm using
> > Sid.)
> 
> If you have the package installed on your system
> 
> dpkg -S libstdc++-libc6

And if you don't:

   $ apt-cache search libstdc++

Peace.

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exim not sending mail

2002-04-07 Thread Joe Heuring


2.2.20
Exim version 3.34 #1 built 19-Jan-2002 17:51:35



Hello all.  I've asked for help on this to another group and hope I'm 
not cross posting to early but it's Sunday and I would really like my 
mutt back as I have to type a bunch of emails tonight.  (this message 
brought to   you by mozilla - there's not a way to incorporate VI into 
Mozilla is there?)


Basically what's going on is exim is not sending mail and is not giving 
me any error messages except for in the logs.  For a while I thought 
every one was getting my email.


Problems started a week ago or so when I did some apt-get/deselect 
update and I think a reboot.  Perhaps something I changed a long time 
ago got changed on the reboot.


Once exim told me that it cannot send my mail because "no space left on 
device".  There was ample room on /var and /var/spool .  The first thing 
i did was 'ln -s /var/spool /freepartition' ... ended up unlinking it 
and somehow I did not get that error message any more but got some 
permissions denied ... checked permissions and changed the exim stuff to 
mail:mail (it was root:root)


 Then mail was working again.

 Never inquired why it said there was no disk space when there was 
ample room.


---

Now no mail gets sent.  Mutt tells me "message sent"  no errors nothing 
in my default mbox


mail was not sent

checking /var/log/exim/mainlog  I see at a rate of about 60/second is 
inputed a ton of:


2002-04-07 17:40:12 16kWfM-0004qW-00 Message is frozen

checking /var/spool/exim/msglog is a bunch of files that read like:

16uGYF-0007NJ-00

'less 16uGYF-0007NJ-00'  returns

2002-04-07 10:34:04 directing failed for [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: unknown local-part "joeheuring" in domain "cox.net"

*** Frozen (delivery error message)

I'm not sure what exim is trying to do here.  "joe" is my user name on 
the computer  joeheuring is my email name for cox.net


my /etc/aliases has always read

joeheuring: joe

looking at that message it looks to me that it's trying to insert 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> into the headers and then it's getting rejected by cox's 
smtp but I know that's not it because there would be a rejection notice. 
I also tried changing the alias around to read "joe: joeheuring" 
Mozilla writes my header as Joe Heuring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and it works.


help  help I just want my Mutt VI back :)



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Ultra 5

2002-04-07 Thread Aravind Vinnakota
Hi all!
  I just started using Debian. I am trying to install debian on Sun Ultra
5 machine. I tried 3 different ways to install it but could'nt:

1) I downloaded the CD images. I tried to burn it on CDs but the images
seem to be larger than the CD size. So, I could'nt burn the CDs.

2) Then I downloaded just the minimal CD image and burnt it on a CD. Then
I inserted the CD into the CDROM drive and used the command $> boot cdrom
to boot from the CD, but I am getting the error "Bad magic number on disk
label". So, I could'nt boot from the CDROM

3) Then I downloaded the floppy image (rescue.bin and driver-1.bin) and
tried to copy them onto floppies. But again the same space
problem. The files are larger than the floppy disk size. Also from the
documentation, I could understand that we cant boot from floppy drive in
case of Ultra sparcs. Any suggestions? I think many of you were able to
burn it onto CDs and floppies?

thanks for your help,
Aravind 



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Re: Chrooted Debian install from base image (was Re: Instalation question: Toshiba TECRA 8000)

2002-04-07 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sun, Apr 07, 2002, Carel Fellinger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 08:52:50PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > This is a draft of a HOWTO I'm working on for doing a chrooted Debian 
> 
> thanks for taking your time to add this usefull document.

Oh, I've only been meaning to for a couple of years now

Thanks for detailed comments.



> > install.  It's a method I've found useful over the years.
> 
> Yep very handy.  I started using it when I needed woody goodies and
> didn't want to take the risk and do a full upgrade.
> 
> > The one component I _don't_ address here is module configuration for
> > support of networking, sound, etc.  Not sure how best to deal with this.
> 
> Not sure what you're at here, but if it's just module configuration
> why not hint at modconf?

Hmm...'coz I've never used it?

The bits of module configuration I'd like to get at:

  - Identifying what modules you need.  Typically:  controllers,
filesystems, networking, etc.

  - Making sure the modules are included with your kernel.  My
understanding is that most Debian kernel images are fairly kitchen
sink, so the problem is minimized here.  Rolling your own is a
different story.

  - Getting the modules loaded at boot or when needed for a device /
function.  This part, frankly, I don't understand particularly well,
though I manage to limp along by throwing lines into /etc/modules.



> ...
> > As an alternative, it's possible to bypass the installation CD using
> > one of several other methods of getting a base image onto the
> > system.
> 
> It would be nice if you could mention some of the other aproaches,
> like netinstall and give a link to the iso.

This assumes I'm providing general advice.  I'm not.  I'm talking about
chroot installs, and refer to the primary documentation for other
options.  TMTOWTDI



> Oh, and I myself are very carefull in my examples to use a telling
> prompt.  In your code below you stick to `$ ' as prompt even when one
> clearly has to be root for the command to work.  I would suggest to
> use `# ' there and use `###' to begin a comment.  Or maybe even better
> use `TRB: ' as prompt for the commands used while running TRB, and
> switch to `debian: ' once debian is running (chrooted).

I use '$ ' as my root prompt ;-).  IIRC, both TRB and LNX-BBC use '$ '
for their prompt.  '# ' reads too much like a comment to my mind, '$ '
indicates a shell prompt.

I use control directives to display the userid in reverse video when
root, which I find more distinctive than a prompt mod:

PS1=\[\033]0;[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\W]$


I probably should make clear that all commands are being run as root.

Your comment on distinguishing boot v/ chroot systems is a good one.


> > Performing A chroot Debian Install From A Booted System
> > ---
> > 
> > The goal is to end up with an upacked tarball of the base system on a
> 
> I was under the impression that woody didn't have such a tarball any more,
> and now that woody is due to be released next week:) it might be wise to
> make this a little bit more future proof.  E.g. debootstrap seems very
> promissing it's merely a sh script so I guess it could work with TRB.
> I merely tried it from a chrooted woody and from its father potato:
> 
># apt-get debootstrap
># debootstrap --verbose --unpack-tarball /tmp/basedebs.tar woody woody2

I've used dbootstrap and debootstrap off the LNX-BBC with mixed results.
The chroot method seems to work more consistently.


> ...
> > keep on rolling.  Thus it's a "zero downtime" GNU/Linux install.  Also a
> 
> nah, a near zero downtime, you have to reboot once you know:)

/me researches two-kernel-monty procedures again


> ...
> > Getting Started
> > ---
> ...
> > My preference is for separate partitions, in order of preference for
> > creation: /, swap, /boot, /usr, /home, /tmp, /var, and /usr/local.  If
> 
> funny, I would think /boot is far less important to have separate then
> /usr.  But then, I've either small disks or modern motherboards, so no
> 1024 cylinder limit here.  Or do you have other arguments to separate
> / and /boot?

For large disks, /boot can be necessary.  It's also a small partition,
so the space-contstraint argument against divving up a /boot partition
don't wash.  I find it useful to keep things like kernels and boot
blocks mounted ro unless absolutely necessary.


> ...
> > Mount two of your partitions to /mnt/debinst and /mnt/utility.  While
> > you're at it, make sure a /mnt/floppy directory exists. 
> 
> Is this in accordance with FSH (or what ever the beast is named).  I
> remember some discussions a while ago, but missed the final verdict.

This is in accordance with the procedures I describe.  /mnt/floppy is
used on the  boot system, not the chroot image.  Though I prefer /mnt
for floppy, cdrom, and other removeable media mount points.


<...>

> > Configurin

Re: Video card support

2002-04-07 Thread Greg C. Madden
On Sat, 2002-04-06 at 06:34, Kurt Lieber wrote:
> On Saturday 06 April 2002 10:41 am, Neal Lippman wrote:
> > My present monitor is a 19" CRT, but I am strongly considering a move to
> > one, maybe two LCD panels - so a card that supports dual monitors would be
> > great, but at the least whatever i use needs to work well with a second
> > card if need be to add the second monitor.
> 
> I use a Leadtek GeForce2MX DH -- the "DH" stands for "Dual-head" and means 
> that you can hook two monitors up to it.  Currently, I only have on 19" LCD 
> screen, so I can't speak to how well two monitors will work w/ this card and 
> linux, but the 2d performance is excellent on the card -- I'm very happy with 
> it.
> 
> --kurt

The Matrox dual head cards are well supported. I use the 400 & 450
models, haven't tried the latest 550. So far I have only used dual
monitors with Suse boxes (sax2), my Debian box is on the todo list.
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Re: [linux-audio-user] sequencers in Debian Woody

2002-04-07 Thread Eric Dantan Rzewnicki
Juha Erkkila wrote:
> 
> i admit i could look a little deeper into muse, but so far i've
> preferred ALSA 0.5, because Soundtracker, Ecasound and Timidity in
> Woody are compiled for 0.5, and i'm quite probably going to use these
> apps a lot (i know that at least Ecasound can be compiled for ALSA
> 0.9, i'm not sure about the other two)
> 
> so, does any of you have any suggestions what i should try to do with
> these sequencers? 


I'm not very familiar with the protocol for asking debian package
maintainers to change things. What would it take to have the
Soundtracker, Ecasound and Timidity debian packages converted to alsa
0.9.x? 

In genreal, it would really be beneficial to the usability of debian for
working with sound if the audio apps packages in the distribution were
to move away from alsa 0.5.x. As I understand it alsa 0.9.x should be
considered the mainstream release and 0.5.x should only be kept around
for historical reference. 

I know this isn't a good short term solution to Juha Erkkila's problem,
but for the longterm it is the way things ought to go, IMHO.


-Eric Rz.


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Re: Scroll mouse?

2002-04-07 Thread Kent West

jeremy petzold wrote:


On Sunday 07 April 2002 01:22 am, Crispin Wellington wrote:


On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 08:38, Jeremy Petzold wrote:


Florentin Ionescu wrote:


what mouse ?

| I have the ZAxisMapping set correctly in my XFree86-4.conf file but I
| do not seem to be able to get scrolling to work...any Idea what is
| wrong?


logitech optical USB using a USB to PS/2 adapter


Make sure the "protocol" of the mouse is set to "imps/2" not "ps/2"

Crispin Wellington



can I manualy edit that? what file do I go into? XFree86config-4? or what?

thanks

Jeremy Petzold


Yes, you can manually edit (with ae, or vim, or vi, or mcedit, or emacs, 
or nano, or joe, or etc etc etc) the main X configuration file, which is 
"/etc/X11/XF86Config-4". What Crispin suggested may or may not fix the 
problem; it's definitely a good start, but as several replies have 
already suggested, you haven't really provided enough information for us 
to do any more than make guesses.


If Crispin's suggestion doesn't solve the problem, send us the contents 
of the two files "/etc/gpm.conf" and "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4".




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Re: Recent Woody ISO

2002-04-07 Thread Jaye Inabnit ke6sls
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On Sunday 07 April 2002 02:56 pm, Ivo Wever wrote:
> Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:
> > Finally, boot options were presented, and we choose the floppy method.
> > This failed each time with known good floppies.
>
> I had the same problem installing over FTP. I created a boot floppy later,
> which did work. I still don't understand why the install program failed to
> create good boot floppies.

In a private post, it was suggested that the 2.4x kernel is/was too big to 
fit on the floppy.  I am pleased the Potato installer was able to produce a 
bootable floppy, and one that also pulled in the module for the nic I had in 
the box.

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Re: fwd Please Help Me,lost all my icons on bottom of puter???

2002-04-07 Thread Kent West

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

please help if able and thanks, it's just all empty at the bottom , 
don't know what happened, they were there this am. Thanks Jude

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Forgive me if I sound patronizing, but your question sounds like:
   1) This is a troll, and I'm just contributing to the problem by 
responding

or
   2) You're a Debian newbie, and don't realize you need to give more 
information before we can help

or
   3) You're running Microsoft Windows, are basically computer 
illiterate, and don't realize that you've posted your question to a list 
that has nothing to do with, and generally despises, MS-Windows. There's 
nothing wrong with being computer illiterate; we all were at one time, 
but this isn't the proper place to get your Windows questions answered 
(although if you had provided more information, there's a good chance 
you would have gotten an answer anyway; most regulars around here have 
such a high level of knowledge that they likely know more about Windows 
than most regulars around the Windows-oriented lists do, which is why we 
run Debian instead of Windows).


If this is a serious post, and not just a troll, please provide more 
information, such as what window manager/environment you're using 
(icewm, KDE, etc),


Kent






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Re: KIZOMBE KAMARA

2002-04-07 Thread Ken Sear
I thought I'd write him back, and tell him to forget his mother's wishes and
cut me in for 50%.  :)

- Original Message -
From: "Patrick Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Patrick Kirk of Springtoys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: KIZOMBE KAMARA


On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:02:53AM -0700, peter kamara wrote:
>FROM KIZOMBE KAMARA
>DAKAR SENEGAL.
>TEL:221-6680399.

How does one cathch these with a spam filter?  To exclude emails with the
names of West African countries seems a little too broad.  Its almost always
a Colonel who has recently died.  "late father" perhaps?

Has anyone got a tripwire that catches these?

Thanks,

Patrick

PS - I still prefer the ones that invite you to a meeting at which you will
"sing agreements." :-)


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Re: URGENT: Please help !

2002-04-07 Thread Tom Cook
On  0, FFF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> My sytem is stucked it starts ok, mounts the drives and starts the
> processes in init2 but when it starts samba smb, it GET's DEAD the
> cursor stops blinking and I can do nothing, What can I do ??
> I restarted several times it does fsck on the drives, mounts them and
> then again when it gets to samba , DEAD !!!

I know you think it's desperate, but please think a bit about your
subject lines.  I nearly deleted it out of hand, and by the looks of
things everyone else has already.

You could try 'linux -single' at the lilo prompt and hope that it
doesn't start up samba in single user mode (it certainly shouldn't).
You can then remove the items in /etc/rc?.d that start samba.  This
should (hopefully) give you a system that boots, unless there is
some underlying thing that is wrong, in which case it may not.

Tom
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RE: Am I running an open relay? - testing

2002-04-07 Thread Alvin Oga


On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Jeremy Gaddis wrote:

> >From your mail server, telnet to
> relay-test.mail-abuse.org.  It will automatically
> connect to your machine's port 25 and run a variety
> of tests to see if your machine is configured
> as an open relay.
> 

a better open relay test ...
http://www.paladincorp.com.au/unix/spam/spamlart

rest of um 
http://www.linux-sec.net/Mail/#Relay

c ya
alvin


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Re: URGENT: Please help !

2002-04-07 Thread Jason Chambers



FFF wrote:

Hi,

My sytem is stucked it starts ok, mounts the drives and starts the
processes in init2 but when it starts samba smb, it GET's DEAD the
cursor stops blinking and I can do nothing, What can I do ??
I restarted several times it does fsck on the drives, mounts them and
then again when it gets to samba , DEAD !!!

TIA,

Rick
Debian Woody 3.0 






Try booting linux in single user mode.  This starts up with the bare 
minimum of stuff running (ie it doesn't get to runlevel 2).  From here 
you can check the syslog to find out what's causing the problem or 
disable possible culprits (I'd guess at whatever starts up after Samba).


To boot into single user mode type 'linux single' at the lilo prompt (if 
thats what your using) or the debian install disk can be used to rescue 
the system.  I can't remember the syntax for the rescue disk but it does 
explain in the messages that appear on screen (there was also an email 
today which explained how to do this but I've deleted it already :-( ).


NB When in single user mode only the root partition is mounted, so you 
won't have access to the full file system or network etc...


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Re: URGENT: Please help !

2002-04-07 Thread Riccardo Gusso
On Thursday 01 January 1970 01:00, FFF wrote:
> *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro*
> Hi,
>
> My sytem is stucked it starts ok, mounts the drives and starts the
> processes in init2 but when it starts samba smb, it GET's DEAD the
> cursor stops blinking and I can do nothing, What can I do ??
> I restarted several times it does fsck on the drives, mounts them and
> then again when it gets to samba , DEAD !!!

You can start to disable the starting of samba in /etc/rc.d/ booting in 
single mode and then you should boot successfully (if the problem is only 
samba) and you can investigate the problem.
Ah, check your date setting: I see your e-mail coming from 1970 :)
Bye.
   Rick


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Re: SOLVED: X broken after sid update, Matrox driver error

2002-04-07 Thread Simon Hepburn
dave mallery wrote:

> the only custom drivers i can find on the matrox site have to be compiled
> from source along with X and under a 2.4 kernel.
>
> is that the only way to get em??

There are binaries available. Depending on the model of card you have and/or 
whether you want improved 3D you may not need them.

ftp://ftp.matrox.com/pub/mga/archive/linux/2002/mgadrivers-2.0.tgz

-- 
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Re: Which deb includes libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2?

2002-04-07 Thread Robert_L
On Sunday 07 April 05:55, Curt Daugaard wrote:
> If anyone can identify the package, I'd be grateful.  (I'm using
> Sid.)
>
> Thanks.
>
> Curt

You can search using:
http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_contents

all the best,
Robert_L


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Re: Scroll mouse?

2002-04-07 Thread jeremy petzold
On Sunday 07 April 2002 01:22 am, Crispin Wellington wrote:
> On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 08:38, Jeremy Petzold wrote:
> > Florentin Ionescu wrote:
> > >what mouse ?
> > >
> > >On Sat, 6 Apr 2002, jeremy wrote :
> > >| Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 14:00:32 -0500
> > >| From: jeremy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >| To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > >| Subject: Scroll mouse?
> > >| Resent-Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 16:06:51 -0800
> > >| Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > >|
> > >| I have the ZAxisMapping set correctly in my XFree86-4.conf file but I
> > >| do not seem to be able to get scrolling to work...any Idea what is
> > >| wrong?\
> > >|
> > >| Thanks
> >
> > logitech optical USB using a USB to PS/2 adapter
>
> Make sure the "protocol" of the mouse is set to "imps/2" not "ps/2"
>
> Crispin Wellington

can I manualy edit that? what file do I go into? XFree86config-4? or what?

thanks

Jeremy Petzold


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Re: Which deb includes libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2?

2002-04-07 Thread Jason Chambers

Curt Daugaard wrote:

If anyone can identify the package, I'd be grateful.  (I'm using
Sid.)

Thanks.

Curt

The Debian site (http://www.debian.org./distrib/packages) provides a few 
search

options, one of which will tell you which package a file belongs to.

And being as I've just been there to make sure :-) the package you need is
libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1.


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Re: Which deb includes libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2?

2002-04-07 Thread brian-d
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 04:55:43PM -0500, Curt Daugaard wrote:

> If anyone can identify the package, I'd be grateful.  (I'm using
> Sid.)

If you have the package installed on your system

dpkg -S libstdc++-libc6

Otherwise the search engine at http://www.debian.org is always a good
starting point.  Follow the Debian Packages link.

Brian.


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Re: SOLVED: X broken after sid update, Matrox driver error

2002-04-07 Thread Paul Mackinney
dave mallery declaimed:
> On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Paul Mackinney wrote:
> 
> > Simon Hepburn declaimed:
> > > Paul Mackinney wrote:
> > > 
> > > > After apt-get dist-updating to the latest version of sid last night
> > > > (approx 2002-04-03 23:00 PST), I can't start X-windows.
> > > 
> > > > Anyone else having problems? Should I report a bug?
> > > 
> > > Well, is this is a matrox bug or an X bug ? I would post to debian-x 
> > > initially, rather than file a bug report.
> > It's a matrox bug... sort of. After remembering that I have a brain, I
> > reinstalled the custom beta mga drivers I got from the Matrox website
> > and well (blush) all is OK. doh!
> 
> Paul:
> 
> the only custom drivers i can find on the matrox site have to be compiled 
> from source along with X and under a 2.4 kernel.
> 
> is that the only way to get em??
> 
> thanks
> 
> dave
Look here:

http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/latest/home.cfm

I downloaded the ones named "BETA 2.0" in the row labeled "Millenium 
G400 / Millenium G400 MAX" and the column labeled "Linux".

Note that the 'mgapdesk' utility i buggy, came up showing my two 
displays swapped left-to-right, etc., but it did leave me with a config
file I could edit to obtain the desired results.

HTH, Paul
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Re: Mutt and From: line

2002-04-07 Thread Matijs van Zuijlen
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 04:54:36PM -0500, Matthew Daubenspeck wrote:
> I have been messing with mutt and trying to make it display my name
> currectly for FAR too long, and I have gotten no where.
> 
> I have tried every combination of set realname, set from, my_hdr From:
> with every combination of strings I can think of, and I cannot get mutt
> to display my full name in the mutt message list menu. Instead, it just
> displays to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> What the heck am I doing wrong?

If I understand your problem correctly, the mail _is_ sent with the
right sender name, but in the list of emails you don't get "Matthew
Daubenspeck", but instead "to [EMAIL PROTECTED]". So it's purely a
display problem.

mutt has a configuration variable that determines how the message list
is displayed. By default, it contains %L, which will display the name of
the mailing list the mail was sent to[1], or the author name, or the
recipient if the author is yourself. So, any mail you send will always
show as "to something". To always show the contents of the From: line,
you would have to change the %L to %n, which shows the author's name, or
the address if there is no name. To change just that, put

set index_format="%4C %Z %{%b %d} %-15.15n (%4l) %s"

in your .muttrc

You can find more about this at
http://mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-6.html#index_format

HTH

[1] To have this work, you have to have to tell mutt the names of the
list you post to or are subscribed to.

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Re: THANKS

2002-04-07 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 08:53:48PM +0200, Andreas Grabner wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 09:24:22AM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> > Colin Watson solved my similar problem with the following:
> > > Your debconf database is broken in some exciting way. Backing up and
> > > moving aside /var/cache/debconf/config.dat and
> > > /var/cache/debconf/templates.dat may help, although Joey may have some
> > > more cunning solution.
> > 
> > You can find the entire thread if you want here:
> > 
> > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200203/msg03185.html
> > 
> > with the final answering post here:
> > 
> > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200203/msg03322.html
> 
> Thanks Thanks Thanks

I understand Joey Hess would like to know what version of debconf you
were using, and whether you've had any disk crashes recently. This
problem is *supposed* to be fixed in both testing and unstable now.

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Re: Which deb includes libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2?

2002-04-07 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 04:55:43PM -0500, Curt Daugaard wrote:
> If anyone can identify the package, I'd be grateful.  (I'm using
> Sid.)

That's in libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1. BTW, packages.debian.org, auto-apt, or
apt-file can help you with these kinds of questions.

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Re: SV: Tekram 315U PCI

2002-04-07 Thread Stephan Hachinger
Hi!

OK, now here is the explanation on the kernel configuration and
compilation. If you have problems with getting the packages required,
you can write me.

1.) The following packages should be installed: libncurses4-dev or
libncurses-dev or libncurses5-dev; kernel-package, binutils, bin86,
make , a gcc package (gcc, gcc-2.95, g++, g++-2.95) and all packages
these ones depend on. (dunno if I'm missing anything here; if the
compilation scripts complain about a missing file, you can search for
the appropriate package at http://packages.debian.org (use the search
form at the bottom).

2.) You now need kernel sources. Firstly, look around which kernel
version you have by "dmesg |more". This command will show you the
kernel output from tehe startup, and you'll see if your kernel is
version 2.2.x or 2.4.x (or if it's very old, 2.0.x). The kernel
sources package you'll have to install depend on the distro you have
and what kernel you have now:

If you have the potato (stable/2.2) distribution and...
... kernel 2.0.x, install kernel-source-2.0.38
... kernel 2.2.x, install kernel-source-2.2.19

If you have the testing distribution and...
... kernel 2.2.x, install kernel-source-2.2.20
... kernel 2.4.x, install kernel-source-2.4.18

if you do not have one of these packages, install the most recent
kernel-source 2.x.y package available, where x must be the same
number which is in your running kernel, y is the higehest number
which you have a package for.

3.) Now, go (that means cd, most the work is done on a console!!!) to
/usr/src/ . There you'll find a file named
kernel-source-2.x.y.tar.bz2 or (...).gz Now, uncompress this package,
by tar xzf .gz or by tar xjf .bz2 ; this depends
on how your sources are compressed. With older tar programs, you must
use xIf (where I is a capital "i") instead of xjf. The kernel-sources
are now uncompressed; you'll find a new directory under /usr/src with
the kernel insinde; now create a symbolic link named linux in
/usr/src, which points onto the kernel directory to do this, do the
following:

cd /usr/src
ln -s  linux

4.) Install the tekram315 patches. For getting the newest patch,
download http://www.garloff.de/kurt/linux/dc395/dc395-138.tar.gz into
the /usr/src dir and uncompress it by tar xzf. Now, go into
/usr/src/dc395 and do the following copy actions:

cp -p dc395x_trm.* /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/
cp -p READ* /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/

and now the patching:

cd /usr/src/linux
patch -p1 < /usr/src/dc395/dc395-integ2x.diff where x stands for the
second number in your kernel version (0,2,4).

Patch will tell you if it was successful, if errors have occured only
while patching readme files or not at all, it will probably work.

5.) Go into /usr/src/linux and call: make-kpkg --config menuconfig
--bzimage binary-arch This will start kernel-configuration and
compilation. You can now choose, which drivers should be built into
your selfmade kernel. There are two different ways of loading drivers
in linux: Either, they are compiled directly into the kernel, or they
are compiled as modules. Modules are drivers which can be loaded
while the system is running; the kernel even can load modules it
needs dynamically. I personally would choose to build all important
drivers directly into the kernel when doing a compile for the first
time, because you won't have to care about loading modules then.
Attention: Don't ever compile the ext2 filesystem driver as a module.
This leads to a chicken-egg-problem: The kernel cannot load the
filesystem where the modules are on and you can only boot by
bootdisk/boot-cd. Compile it straight into the kernel! Cause it would
be too long if I would explain the whole configuration here, I'll
only give some hints; carefully walk through the menus and choose the
options, many also have a help text:

You'll need to enable "Experimental or new drivers" because the
realtek driver is "new" if you're using a 2.2 kernel. Enabling or
switching options to "compile as module" (M) works with the
whitespace key.

Also enable _all three options_ under "loadable module support".

For the Realtek card,  use the "8139too" driver, if you have a 8139
chip.

For the Tekram, use "DC395/U/UW and DC315/U support" under SCSI->SCSI
low level drivers under SCSI, of course, CDROM support etc. must be
enabled

Switch on /dev/agppart under "Character Devices", if available.
 
For the Logitech mouse and keyboard, you'll need the ps2 mouse driver
or an usb hid (human interface devices) driver with mouse/kb option
(depends on if this kb/mouse is usb) enabled. The USB HID driver and
the USB scanner/printer drivers depend on the USB-UHCI /OHCI driver
(depends on chipset, for via/intel choose UHCI).

After you'll have left the menu and have saved the config, make-kpkg
will compile kernel and modules and headers into two .deb packages in
/usr/src. Now, install them by:

cd /usr/src
dpkg -i kern*.deb

You'll be asked a few questions, and the kernel will be copied to
/boot/vmlinuz- or so, a lin

URGENT: Please help !

2002-04-07 Thread FFF
Hi,

My sytem is stucked it starts ok, mounts the drives and starts the
processes in init2 but when it starts samba smb, it GET's DEAD the
cursor stops blinking and I can do nothing, What can I do ??
I restarted several times it does fsck on the drives, mounts them and
then again when it gets to samba , DEAD !!!

TIA,

Rick
Debian Woody 3.0 


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Re: Am I running an open relay?

2002-04-07 Thread dman
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 02:31:18PM -0600, Gary Turner wrote:
| On Sat, 06 Apr 2002 08:38:04 -0600, dman wrote:
| 
| >On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 02:58:00PM +0100, Patrick Kirk wrote:
| 
| >| 
| >| DSBL LISTME: smtp
| >| 6839cgD6QvH1tqiQODyEuQGHn9TFZAdi
| >| MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| >| RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| >| DSBL END
| >
| >Where did this come from!?  Last I saw there was no way to get a
| >cookie (that second line with "junk" characters") and there is no
| >contact information at dsbl.org.  I made a script to make formmail
| >sites list themselves, but I need a way to get a cookie for it to
| >work.  Right now I can't even find any DNS information for dsbl.org,
| >so I can't check their web site.
| 
| dman, I'm sure I must have misunderstood you,

I don't think you did.

| but here is main page and attd is contact stuff.

Thanks.  I've just learned two things :-) 
1)  DNS here isn't quite right -- I get nothing but some NS
records when I lookup dsbl.org.  When I tried sshing to my
school's network, I got the right data.  I just added their
nameserver as an additional forwarder, so I should be ok for
now.

2)  DSBL has changed the opening page :-).  Now there's a mailling
list and contact info.  There wasn't last time I looked
(shortly after its incarnation).  Also they now have a program
listed on the "programs" page.

-D

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Re: Recent Woody ISO

2002-04-07 Thread Ivo Wever
Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:
>
> Finally, boot options were presented, and we choose the floppy method.  
> This failed each time with known good floppies.  
>
I had the same problem installing over FTP. I created a boot floppy later,
which did work. I still don't understand why the install program failed to
create good boot floppies.

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Which deb includes libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2?

2002-04-07 Thread Curt Daugaard
If anyone can identify the package, I'd be grateful.  (I'm using
Sid.)

Thanks.

Curt


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Re: Mutt and From: line

2002-04-07 Thread dman
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 04:54:36PM -0500, Matthew Daubenspeck wrote:
| I have been messing with mutt and trying to make it display my name
| currectly for FAR too long, and I have gotten no where.
| 
| I have tried every combination of set realname, set from, my_hdr From:
| with every combination of strings I can think of, and I cannot get mutt
| to display my full name in the mutt message list menu. Instead, it just
| displays to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| 
| What the heck am I doing wrong?

Dunno, I don't see your config :-).

Correct Way #1 :
.muttrc :
set realname="dman" from='[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
set use_from  # <- This is important!


Correct Way #2 :
/etc/email-addresses :
# Note : this is a localuser -> external address mapping
dman: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm using the first one now (and no, my username is not a "trusted"
user in exim's eyes).

-D 

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RE: Am I running an open relay?

2002-04-07 Thread Jeremy Gaddis
>From your mail server, telnet to
relay-test.mail-abuse.org.  It will automatically
connect to your machine's port 25 and run a variety
of tests to see if your machine is configured
as an open relay.

j.

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-Original Message-
From: Patrick Kirk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 8:58 AM
To: debuser
Subject: Am I running an open relay?



My inbox has about 12 of these...does it mean I've been hacked or that
the relay attempt failed?  I though I had Exim locked down nicely but
someone has used port 25 if I read "enterprise.kirks.net with smtp (Exim
3.35 #1 (P Kirk))" correctly.

-Forwarded Message-

From: Mail Delivery System <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 217.35.40.123 ]
Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
Date: 05 Apr 2002 05:29:06 +0100

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim).

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
unknown local-part "listme%dsbl.org" in domain "[217.35.40.123]"

-- This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. --

Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: from 2-057.ctame701-1.telepar.net.br
([200.193.160.57] helo=surriel.com ident=wfxnjr)
by enterprise.kirks.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (P Kirk))
id 16tLLV-0003Z9-00
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 05 Apr 2002 05:29:05 +0100
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 4:28:14 +
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Open Relay Test Message
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

DSBL LISTME: smtp
6839cgD6QvH1tqiQODyEuQGHn9TFZAdi
MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
DSBL END

This message is a test of your mail server to determine if
it will perform relaying (re-sending) of e-mail messages
for unauthorized outside parties.  This capability, if
enabled in your mail server, is widely considered to be
serious flaw in mail server security.

Your mail server is being tested for relaying capability
because we have received mail from it and wish to determine
its likelihood to be abused by spammers.




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Re: fatal error: no screens found

2002-04-07 Thread Siward de Groot

 Hello Henry B. ,

   I am still using X version 3, and dont know whether that makes a
difference in this case.
   So if i am talking nonsense here, please ignore it.

 you wrote:

> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
> 
> Fatal server error:
> no screens found


 
> Section "Monitor"
> Identifier  "Generic Monitor"
> HorizSync   48.07-72
> VertRefresh 43-75
> Option  "DPMS"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Screen"
> Identifier  "Default Screen"
> Device  "Generic Video Card"
> Monitor "Generic Monitor"
> DefaultDepth24
> SubSection "Display"
> Depth   1
> Modes   "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
> EndSubSection
> SubSection "Display"
>Depth   4
> Modes   "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
> EndSubSection
> SubSection "Display"
> Depth   8
> Modes   "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
> EndSubSection
> SubSection "Display"
> Depth   15
> Modes   "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
> EndSubSection
> SubSection "Display"
> Depth   16
> Modes   "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
> EndSubSection
> SubSection "Display"
> Depth   24
> Modes   "800x600"
> EndSubSection
> EndSection

 X 3 's monitor section would have some lines like :

   Modeline  "800x600"50.69  800  804  904  956  600 625 628 656
-hsync -vsync

 to specify the timing of video signals.
 Your config file lacks any specification of video timings,
   eg it only says that your monitor is capable of doing 43-75 Hz
vertical,
   but does not specify which of these frequencies should be used.

 You could try copying above modeline to it, if your videocard's clock
can run at 50.69 MHz.
 This might give you 50MHz/800=60kHz horizontal and 60kHz/600=100Hz
vertical.

 But better check documentation of config file first, to see whether
this changed in xf4.

 I hope this helps.

 Have fun !

   Siward


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Re: SOLVED: X broken after sid update, Matrox driver error

2002-04-07 Thread dave mallery
On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Paul Mackinney wrote:

> Simon Hepburn declaimed:
> > Paul Mackinney wrote:
> > 
> > > After apt-get dist-updating to the latest version of sid last night
> > > (approx 2002-04-03 23:00 PST), I can't start X-windows.
> > 
> > > Anyone else having problems? Should I report a bug?
> > 
> > Well, is this is a matrox bug or an X bug ? I would post to debian-x 
> > initially, rather than file a bug report.
> It's a matrox bug... sort of. After remembering that I have a brain, I
> reinstalled the custom beta mga drivers I got from the Matrox website
> and well (blush) all is OK. doh!

Paul:

the only custom drivers i can find on the matrox site have to be compiled 
from source along with X and under a 2.4 kernel.

is that the only way to get em??

thanks

dave



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Re: Solved Re: amazon search with konqueror shortcuts

2002-04-07 Thread Christophe Courtois
> > > Any idea how to get the correct search-url for "all products"?
> ==> The correct search-url is
> http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=blended&fiel
>d-keywords=\1

BTW: Seems to work with the French and the American version of the site 
too.

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Re: KIZOMBE KAMARA

2002-04-07 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 07:25:04PM +0100, Patrick Kirk wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:02:53AM -0700, peter kamara wrote:
> >FROM KIZOMBE KAMARA
> >DAKAR SENEGAL. 
> >TEL:221-6680399.
> 
> How does one cathch these with a spam filter?  To exclude emails with
> the names of West African countries seems a little too broad.  Its
> almost always a Colonel who has recently died.  "late father" perhaps? 
> 
> Has anyone got a tripwire that catches these?

spamassassin ?

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Re: security updates for testing distibution

2002-04-07 Thread Christophe Courtois
> Anyhow, woody will be released Real Soon Now(tm), and then the
> security policy will be the same as it was for potato.

 Does it mean too that I must update from potato rather quickly after 
Woody's release if I want all security releases ? Is the maintenance of 
potato totally stopped after 1st May ?

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Re: printing off the internet

2002-04-07 Thread dman
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 08:04:05PM -0500, Shawn McMahon wrote:
| begin  quoting what [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 10:12:24PM 
-0500:
| > Can you help me,  it's been months sence I have been able to print off the 
| > Internet.
| > I can only print from word.
| 
| Sure.  Just send us the contents of your /etc/printcap, and we'll go
| from there.
| 
| I'm curious how you got Word to work on Debian, though.

AOL too.  (notice the OP's From: address)

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Re: Question concerning MTAs and Databases.

2002-04-07 Thread dman
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 06:51:47PM -0800, Petro wrote:
| Does anybody know of an MTA, plugin, or package that uses a database
| (Preferbly Mysql) for storage? 

Lotus.


FYI, Lotus Notes/Domino can not forward an email with a jpeg
attachment.  It wholly corrupts the jpeg. 

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filtering nigeria spam (was Re: KIZOMBE KAMARA)

2002-04-07 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sun, Apr 07, 2002, Patrick Kirk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:02:53AM -0700, peter kamara wrote:
> >FROM KIZOMBE KAMARA
> >DAKAR SENEGAL. 
> >TEL:221-6680399.
> 
> How does one cathch these with a spam filter?  To exclude emails with
> the names of West African countries seems a little too broad.  Its
> almost always a Colonel who has recently died.  "late father" perhaps? 

Please set your mailer/editor linewrap to 68-75 characters.  I strongly
recommend 72 as a good default.

Thank you.


I use spamassassin, which has historically not been too good at catching
Nigeria/419 scam mail, though it's getting better.  In response, the
perps are modifying the scripts -- this one referred to Senegal, and
slipped through.

A procmail scorefile would be useful here.  You'd want to look for all
caps, various African nations, 'MONEY', and, often, references to
'mother'.  "Son" and "late father" would also fit.

I'd check the spamassassin discussion list for suggested filter rules
for catching this stuff that haven't made it into spamassassin proper
yet.

I just forward the mail to the FTC's spam line, the Treasury Dept's 419
line, the originating ISP, and Razor.

Peace.

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Re: daylight savings time

2002-04-07 Thread Walt Mankowski
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:20:08AM -0700, Dave Carrigan wrote:
> Walt Mankowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Or better yet, create a symbolic link to it.
> 
> I think a symlink would be better as well, but Debian doesn't do it for
> some reason:
> 
>  $ ls -li /etc/localtime /usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Pacific 
>   152487 -rw-r--r--1 root root 1017 Mar 31 10:27 
> /etc/localtime
>38530 -rw-r--r--4 root root 1017 Mar 24 08:59 
> /usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Pacific
>  $ diff /etc/localtime /usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Pacific 

Interesting.  My debian potato box does have a symlink:

$ ls -l /etc/localtime 
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   27 Jan 13 12:12 /etc/localtime -> 
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Re: Building a single user Internet terminal

2002-04-07 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sun, Apr 07, 2002, Erik van der Meulen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 08:44:06PM +0800, Crispin Wellington wrote:
> 
> > Have a script that starts X for a certain user and begins galeon. Run
> > this as a respawn process under /etc/inittab. Make a certain runlevel be
> > kiosk mode (the default). Make other run levels the admin mode (normal
> > logins etc). 
> 
> Thanks a lot for your prompt answer! It sounds pretty much like what I
> want. I have tried to follow your advice and came across one or two
> little issues. 
> 
> > /etc/inittab line something like
> 
> > ki:2:respawn:su -c /usr/local/bin/runkiosk kioskuser
> 
> I have replaced the line:
> 
>   l2:2:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 2
> 
> in the inittab with your suggestion, in the hope that would do the
> required.
> 
> > /usr/local/bin/runkiosk could basically just startx, and let kioskusers
> > .Xsession file do the rest.
> 
> Also I have made this, only containing 'startx'.
> Now if I reboot, I see no X, but a message repeating:
> 
>   X: user not authorised to run the X server, aborting.

Change the first two lines of /etc/X11/Xserver to read:

/usr/bin/X11/XF86_Mach64
Anybody

Unprivileged users typically can't run X unless they're standing at the
console.

Alternatively, start X as root, but su to an unprivileged user in the
XSession script.

> That would be brilliant. But again (sorry about my ignorance) I do not
> really now how to get there. I seem to recall that the default install
> (Woody and upgrade to Sid right after) does not have ext3 support.
> Suppose a kernel rebuild would be required? Also, I have two partitions,
> large root and a small boot (and swap also). I think I have read
> sometime that /boot needed to be ext2... Further, is there a command for
> converting an existing ext2 -> 3, or do I need to make a new
> installation.

You need an ext3-capable kernel.   Any current 2.4.x kernel will do.

To convert /dev/hda1 to ext3:

$ tune2fs -j /dev/hda1

...and modify the filesystem type in /etc/fstab.  If you specify
'ext3,ext2' there, then you can mount the filesystem as either.

/boot can be ext3.

Peace.

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Re: IPV6 things...

2002-04-07 Thread Mark Zimmerman
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 06:41:43PM +0200, Markus Grunwald wrote:
> Hi !
> 
> > > Are YOU using ipv6 ? No ? Well, me neither. It's a nice thing and I
> > > will use it if I have to, but up to now, everything here is ipv4.
> > 
> > Well, yes, actually. It's a really nice thing, and I'd recommend using
> > it voluntarily before you absolutely *have* to. 
> 
> Hmm. Where can I read something how to do it ? (I found no howto...)

http://www.ipv6.org is a good starting point.


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Re: Is Mozilla mail brian dead? SOLVED

2002-04-07 Thread Erik Steffl
Patrick Kirk wrote:
> 
> >
> > Unless you told Mozilla in the first "get messages" to
> > save the password you gave, you will be asked to give
> > it each time you want to access the mailbox.
> >
> > --
> It doesn't ask for a password when I click get messages.  I think its
> best just assume that Moz can't cope with IMAP on localhost and stick
> with Evolution.

  it definitely works, I have just tried it, I too have imap on
localhost (cyrus), I use the following settings:

 in Edit|Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings... I have an account
(created using Add Account button) that has following Settings under
Server settings section:

  Server Type: IMAP Mail Server (this one is set during account cretion,
it is not possible to change it later)

  Server Name: localhost
  User Name: whatever is your username
  Port: 993 (was set automatically when I checked the Use Secure
connection (SSL))

  Use secure connection checked (uncheck if you don't use SSL)
  Check for new mail at startup checked
  Check for new messages every 10 minutes checked
  ... etc.

  IMAP on localhost is handled just like any other IMAP server, as long
as the server that you specify in Server name is found it tries to
connect to it, it can be 127.0.0.1, your IP, the name of your machine
etc... (and it's the same for any other host name or IP number, there's
no difference in how localhost is treated).

  IIRC the mail client asked for password and now remembers it (because
I checked the box when it asked before), if the password were to change
it would say authentification error and ask for password again.

erik


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Re: Building a single user Internet terminal

2002-04-07 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sun, Apr 07, 2002, Crispin Wellington ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> Have the whole system use ext3. Have no shutdown at all (just switch it
> off like a stereo)

I'm going to say DON'T DO THIS as well.

This isn't what ext3fs is designed to prevent or protect against.

You can speed shutdown by not running services.  You can also reduce the
'sleep 5' value in /etc/init.d/single to something shorter, say, 2, to
shave a few seconds off the shutdown time.

If you want a system that's largely immune to hard kills, your best bet
is a JWZ NFS boot mentioned previously, or to use a bootable GNU/Linux
image á la LNX-BBC.  The latter includes instructions on customizing the
build, and the image can be loaded from disk (or network) rather than CD
if necessary.

Peace.

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Re: Matrox G400 Hardware Acceleration

2002-04-07 Thread Tom Allison

Michael J. Madden wrote:

Has anyone gotten hardware acceleration for the Matrox G400 working
under Woody.  I am using XFree86 4.1.0-14 with kernel 2.4.18.

I keep getting the following message in XFree86.0.log and glxinfo
reports direct rendering is disabled.
(==) MGA(0): Direct rendering disabled

Absolutely, but first you must get the drivers from the Matrox web 
site.  Do nothing else, until this has been done, and you have 
followed their installation instructions.


After that, IIRC, it was rather easy.

But that's a different PC so I can't send you the XF86Config file.


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Re: Linksys Wireless WDT11 w/ Woody

2002-04-07 Thread Peter Hicks
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 08:29:35AM -0500, Mike Madden wrote:
>Thanks for the info.  I couldn't find Linux drivers
>on the Linksys page.  However, it looks like it will
>work.  It's just a matter of some research and
>experimentation.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mike
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

There are currently 2 sets of drivers that work with the Prism2 cards,
the hermes drivers that come with the 2.4 kernel, and the wlan-ng
drivers. The wlan-ng drivers are the better of the 2, and are
available from linux-wlan.org. These are the linux drivers that most
companies will suggest, ie. if you go to the SMC website, these are
the linux drivers they offer. I have found that most of the prism2
cards are about equal. They all need windows to do a firmware upgrade.
They key is to find a friend with a windows laptop ;-)

I think the best cards out there are the cisco aironet cards. They
actually monitor on all 12 channels, so if you bring the card into
monitor mode, you can grab frames from all channels at the same time.

:^P

>> 
>> Although I don't own these products I had them under serious consideration to
>> buy and may still buy them.  Any research that I've done on their use on 
>> Linux
>> indicates that their support is fair to excellent, and probably even so 
>> under a
>> 2.2 kernel.
>> 
>> I would recommend doing a bit of research on Linux and wireless first.  A few
>> quick links will take you to sites based on the subject.  And if memory 
>> serves
>> me correct, Linksys may even have Linux drivers on their site.
>> 
>> BTW, I have tried that Linksys Router you mention, and it does work very well
>> (browser-based config).
>>
>
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Re: Recent Woody ISO

2002-04-07 Thread Jaye Inabnit ke6sls
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On Sunday 07 April 2002 12:20 pm, Brian W. Carver wrote:
> Woody ISOs can be found at: http://www.linuxiso.org/debian.html
>
> Not sure if there are more recent ones than that.
>
> Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:
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> > Greetings:
> >
> > Yesterday, I pulled down disk 1 of the unofficial Woody.  I tried to use
> > it for an install on a friends RedHat boxen.  It started well (boot) and
> > we proceeded through the install.  Finally, boot options were presented,
> > and we choose the floppy method.  This failed each time with known good
> > floppies.  I finally pulled a 2.2.r3 out and used it, and finally got the
> > nic working, and performed a dist-upgrade.
> >
> > What I would like to learn is where I can get a very recent copy of Woody
> > for the next box (a P100)?  I could find no mirrors in the US, only over
> > seas which, even with my bw, was very slow.
> >
> > Thanks for any tips.  Tatah

Greetings Brian:

That link is down for the actual image, also it states the build is 1/3/2002, 
which isn't too recent.  I did search the debian archives, and had checked 
this link out from a prior post during my original quest.  Yet I am still 
most interested in seeing what will be the final Woody install method.

Thank you, be well
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Re: Chrooted Debian install from base image (was Re: Instalation question: Toshiba TECRA 8000)

2002-04-07 Thread Patrick Kirk
On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 05:52, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> This is a draft of a HOWTO I'm working on for doing a chrooted Debian 
> install.  It's a method I've found useful over the years.
> 

Hi,

I wonder if you would find this link on the gentoo site useful.  IMO it
is the most elegant set of instructions for a chroot install I've used. 
I think its because chroot is the _only_ way to install Gentoo.
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/build.html


They also have an altinstall page where you can install from a single
floppy and NFS.  The instructions on how to use mount -o loop for a cd
are really useful if you only have an iso image.
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/altinstall.html

In a lot of ways, Gentoo has a site that has more useful tutorials and
tips than most Linux resources because their lead developer does them
for IBM. http://www.gentoo.org/index-articles.html is well worth a
visit.

BTW, I stopped using Gentoo after a week or so.  It is a lovely distro
and portage has the potential to be as good as dpkg.  Its very modern
and up to date - having a small developer and small number of apps helps
them a lot.

But Debian is better in that its more solid (Gentoo installs seem to
work when the mood takes them or else just chew up your cpu for a couple
of hours before bombing out).  I run a mix of testing/unstable and it
seems like only a couple of hours from things being released by Ximian
or whoever. And you get all the compiling from source benefits as well
with the deb-src things.

I only wish that I could get the apt-get source only things to stick.  I
used it for a few apps only to have them overwritten by binaries on my
next apt-get update && apt-get upgrade.  However, like most things in
IT, its a question of rtfm-ing I suppose ;-)

Patrick


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Re: Recent Woody ISO

2002-04-07 Thread Greg C. Madden
On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 10:11, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:
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> 
> What I would like to learn is where I can get a very recent copy of Woody for 
> the next box (a P100)?  I could find no mirrors in the US, only over seas 
> which, even with my bw, was very slow.
> 
> Thanks for any tips.  Tatah

A good way to keep current iso's is with the 'jigdo' program.
http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/
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insmod

2002-04-07 Thread gob

At 10:50 07/04/02 -0700, Eric Hanchrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> "gob" == gob  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

gob> If all else fails, I'll see my brother about Woody CD
gob> upgrades.

If that means that you're certain you're running something older than
Woody, then I'd suggest you upgrade to Woody before you do anything
else.  That's because the xfree packages you want to use require
(sigh) a newer version of the GNU C library than that on your system.
And you can't have both libraries present at once ... if you upgrade
the library, then every other package will break.  That Would Be Bad.


Yes it is potato I'm running.  I'll go with your suggestion and try to get 
Woody.  I've managed to install the PCMCIA package off the CDs, had a 
glitch and now must learn about insmod.


I have what is probably a very basic problem, maybe you can help.  I ran 
through dselect and installed various packages, but one remained 
uninstalled.  The message was as follows:


"The actual kernel modules for this package in pcmcia-modules-version> package were not installed.  Suggest you move /lib/modules/2.2.19 
to (eg.) /lib/modules/2.2.19.old and reinstall this package".  (part of 
this is from memory-might be wrong!)


I have renamed the file as suggested, but do not know the syntax of the 
next step.  I presume it is something like insmod pcmcia-modules-<2.2.19> 
...(this part I don't know).  I've tried man insmod and 
only confused myself.  Any suggestions for the newbie?  Or am I so off the 
mark I should back off and wait for Woody?  It seems upgrades are required 
to get my winmodem going-not a good option!


TIA, Tim



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Re: Network connection utility

2002-04-07 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> Does anyone know of a utility to reconfigure a network quickly from dialup to
> lan-via-ethernet and back without network breakage?  Would like to use it 
> when people bring dialup boxen here to add to my lan for upgrading to Woody.
> 

run a dhcp server locally and have a copy of dhcp-client on cd/floppy to
install on their computer.  It is the fastest way to go.


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Re: Recent changes in woody broke vmware: AIO: NOT_IMPLEMENTED?

2002-04-07 Thread Syrus Nemat-Nasser
On 7 Apr 2002, Eric Hanchrow wrote:

> ..this error when vmware tries to restore the Win98 session:
> 
> VMware Workstation PANIC:
> AIO: NOT_IMPLEMENTED F(566): 1081
> 
> Shoot.  I'm having the same problem, and have no solutions.  

Hello Eric and other Debian users:

I have a workaround for users of vmware 2.0.4 who don't want to upgrade to
vmware 3.1. This is crude, and from now on vmware must be run as root
(unless someone patches the old vmware for the changes to libc6).

Copy a libc6 2.2.5-3 binary from somewhere. The file you need is
/lib/libc-2.2.5.so. I used a woody machine that has not been upgraded in
the last two days. Now, in my personal vmware directory, I made an oldlibs
directory:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:~/vmware/oldlibs$ v
total 1148
-rwxr-xr-x 1 syrus  syrus  1170812 Apr 7 13:00 libc-2.2.5.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 syrus  syrus   15 Apr 7 12:59 libc.so.6 -> ./libc-2.2.5.so

The following script, run as root (using sudo), will now run vmware:

#!/bin/bash
#
# Preload old libc6 so vmware 2.0.4 will continue to run
export LD_PRELOAD=/home/syrus/vmware/oldlibs/libc.so.6
exec /usr/local/bin/vmware



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Re: X Forwarding via SSH

2002-04-07 Thread Alvin Oga

hi ya dima

not sure, but, think you missed my out-of-order ssh commandline 
inserted back in  before your comments below
   connections between foo and westek is assumed to be over ssh

( am assuming that they had done ssh before having the
( X11 DISPLAY problem 

lots of things can be done to run securely or 
other "conveniences"  good or bad is up to them...
( usually not a problem till its too late ...

c ya
alvin

- X11 should not be running if security is an issue...
- if one insists on running X11, one should never login as root in xdm...
- ssh/X11 forwarding is assumed to be on still...

On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:

> * Alvin Oga ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> ...
> > if you are sitting on a machine called foo and ssh into westek
> > 
> > 
> > foo:/home/westk> xhost +westek
> > 
> > westek[westk]:/home/westk> export  DISPLAY=foo:0.0
> > westek[westk]:/home/westk> gqview &
> > #
> > # should disply on the machine foo
> > #

#
# to go from westek to foo
#
westek[westk]:/home/westk> ssh -X -l westk foo

( or vice versa )

> This is a really bad advice: it bypasses ssh X forwarding,
> so it a) doesn't help with OP's problem, and b) is insecure.
> It shouldn't work anyway: X on foo should be running with
> -nolisten tcp.
> 


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Re: Chrooted Debian install from base image (was Re: Instalation question: Toshiba TECRA 8000)

2002-04-07 Thread Carel Fellinger
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 08:52:50PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> This is a draft of a HOWTO I'm working on for doing a chrooted Debian 

thanks for taking your time to add this usefull document.

> install.  It's a method I've found useful over the years.

Yep very handy.  I started using it when I needed woody goodies and
didn't want to take the risk and do a full upgrade.

> The one component I _don't_ address here is module configuration for
> support of networking, sound, etc.  Not sure how best to deal with this.

Not sure what you're at here, but if it's just module configuration
why not hint at modconf?
 
...
> As an alternative, it's possible to bypass the installation CD using one
> of several other methods of getting a base image onto the system.

It would be nice if you could mention some of the other aproaches, like
netinstall and give a link to the iso.

Oh, and I myself are very carefull in my examples to use a telling
prompt.  In your code below you stick to `$ ' as prompt even when
one clearly has to be root for the command to work.  I would suggest
to use `# ' there and use `###' to begin a comment.  Or maybe even
better use `TRB: ' as prompt for the commands used while running
TRB, and switch to `debian: ' once debian is running (chrooted).
 

>   Performing A chroot Debian Install From A Booted System
>   ---
> 
> The goal is to end up with an upacked tarball of the base system on a

I was under the impression that woody didn't have such a tarball any more,
and now that woody is due to be released next week:) it might be wise to
make this a little bit more future proof.  E.g. debootstrap seems very
promissing it's merely a sh script so I guess it could work with TRB.
I merely tried it from a chrooted woody and from its father potato:

   # apt-get debootstrap
   # debootstrap --verbose --unpack-tarball /tmp/basedebs.tar woody woody2


...
> keep on rolling.  Thus it's a "zero downtime" GNU/Linux install.  Also a

nah, a near zero downtime, you have to reboot once you know:)

...
> Getting Started
> ---
...
> My preference is for separate partitions, in order of preference for
> creation: /, swap, /boot, /usr, /home, /tmp, /var, and /usr/local.  If

funny, I would think /boot is far less important to have separate then
/usr.  But then, I've either small disks or modern motherboards, so no
1024 cylinder limit here.  Or do you have other arguments to separate
/ and /boot?

...
> Mount two of your partitions to /mnt/debinst and /mnt/utility.  While
> you're at it, make sure a /mnt/floppy directory exists. 

Is this in accordance with FSH (or what ever the beast is named).  I
remember some discussions a while ago, but missed the final verdict.

 
> Transferring The Base Image
> ---

This can be done with debootstrap too, so you merely need to tell how
to install debootstrap on a non debian system.  And maybe were to get
basedebs.tar as debootstrap can use a local copy of that tarball too.



> Configuring The Base System
> --
> 
> You've now got a real Debian system, though rather lean, on disk.
> Chroot into it:
> 
> $ chroot . bin/bash

One thing I always wondered how to deal with was with preventing
daemons to start / stop in the chrooted woody, especially as this
automatically happens when you install a new (version) `daemon'
packet.  Initially debootstrap uses a trick to prevent daemons from
really being started.  Might be worth explaining the trick and how it
can be used later on.


...
>- /etc/hostname -- your system's host name -- 2 - 63 characters.

Maybe worth mentioning that it shouldn't contain the domain part?


...
> Reboot to confirm your settings.  If your system doesn't come up, you've

If you go the debootstrap path, you need to install a kernel package first.


...
>   # In theory, the following works, though I had to kick it a few
>   # times to make it go right:
> 
>   $ apt-get dist-upgrade  # This should work.
>   $ apt-get dselect-upgrade   # This is what I ended up using.
> 
> FIXME:  ...can someone straighten me out on this?

I'm no expert on the subject, but I thought dselect-upgrade is only usefull
when you used dselect to select packages and want apt-get to install them.

 
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Re: Recent Woody ISO

2002-04-07 Thread Michael J. Madden
About a week ago, I downloaded the first cd from ftp.fsn.hu.  I have
a DSL connection, and I noticed it was quite quick even though it is
in Hungary. In the past, I've also seen good speed from the Australian
site ftp.planetmirror.com.

Take a look at http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#testing for unofficial
cd images of the testing distribution.

Thanks,
Mike

On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 11:11:39AM -0700, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:
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> Yesterday, I pulled down disk 1 of the unofficial Woody.  I tried to use it 
> for an install on a friends RedHat boxen.  It started well (boot) and we 
> proceeded through the install.  Finally, boot options were presented, and we 
> choose the floppy method.  This failed each time with known good floppies.  I 
> finally pulled a 2.2.r3 out and used it, and finally got the nic working, and 
> performed a dist-upgrade.
> 
> What I would like to learn is where I can get a very recent copy of Woody for 
> the next box (a P100)?  I could find no mirrors in the US, only over seas 
> which, even with my bw, was very slow.
> 
> Thanks for any tips.  Tatah
> - -- 
> 
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Re: THANKS

2002-04-07 Thread Andreas Grabner
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 09:24:22AM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> Colin Watson solved my similar problem with the following:
> > Your debconf database is broken in some exciting way. Backing up and
> > moving aside /var/cache/debconf/config.dat and
> > /var/cache/debconf/templates.dat may help, although Joey may have some
> > more cunning solution.
> 
> You can find the entire thread if you want here:
> 
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200203/msg03185.html
> 
> with the final answering post here:
> 
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200203/msg03322.html
> 
> Kent
> 


Thanks Thanks Thanks
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sequencers in Debian Woody

2002-04-07 Thread Juha Erkkila
i'm terribly sorry for the re-post, but i just realized i subscribe
from LAU with different email-address, and thus this email didn't get
through.. (and i even cross-post... argh)

--

hello Linux audio users and fellow debianists

about a month ago i upgraded my system from Debian Potato to Woody,
looking forward to see all the interesting sound applications people
have been writing, and which ones of those have been packaged for
Debian.  overall, i've been fairly happy with them, with the exception
of all the four sequencers in Woody: Sted2, Rosegarden, Brahms and
Muse

i hope i'm not expecting too much from any of these:  all i want to do
is to record my playing from the midi-keyboard while using Timidity as
a soft synth, and then being able to save my playing as a midi-file.
my Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] sound card doesn't have a built-in
synth, so i have to use Timidity (or something similar).  my
midi-keyboard is known as "MK-61 midi keyboard controller", with
15-pin "midi port", connected to the soundcard that also feeds power
to the keyboard

there doesn't appear to be any hardware problem, as i can do 'cat
/dev/sequencer' and i get some output, "test audio and midi" in PD
assures me that at least PD can read my midi-keyboard correctly, and
(more convincingly) 'timidity -iA -B 2,8 -Os && aconnect 64:0 128:0'
enables me to drive Timidity with the keyboard.  yet despite these i'm
still unable to do any midi-recording with any of these sequencers
while rendering my playing with Timidity

some info on my configurations:  i'm using 2.4.18 kernel and i've
tried using both ALSA 0.5.12a-2 and 0.9+0beta10-6.
my /etc/alsa/modutils/0.5 and /etc/alsa/modutils/0.9 are identical:

--cut--
# --- BEGIN: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---
# --- ALSACONF verion 0.4.3b ---
alias char-major-116 snd
alias snd-card-0 snd-card-ens1371
alias char-major-14 soundcore
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
options snd snd_major=116 snd_cards_limit=2 snd_device_mode=0660 
snd_device_gid=29 snd_device_uid=0
options snd-card-ens1371 snd_index=0 snd_id=ENSONIQ
# --- END: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---

# virtual midi:
alias snd-card-1 snd-card-virmidi
alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1
options snd-card-virmidi snd_index=1 snd_id=VIRTUAL_MIDI
--cut--

okay, here's my experiences with all these four sequencers:

Sted2 (2.07m+20010303-3) [ALSA 0.5 and 0.9]:  (note: Sted2 has to be
patched or run as 'LC_CTYPE=C sted2' or something similar in a
scandanavian environment when using X.)  i have configured it with a
line 'player=1,timidity -id -f -EFchorus=0 -EFreverb=0 -s44.1 -Os' in
/etc/sted2/sted2.cnf, and it can load and play midi-files without a
problem.  while using either the default setting or
'midi_port=/dev/sequencer', it informs me with 'MIDI IN : midi' in the
main screen.  after choosing a track and while trying to record into
it, it responds to my first keyboard press with a ticking metronome.
i hit my keyboard but no sound comes out nor actual recording happens.
i can stop this by pressing reset.  during this so-called recording
sted2 consumes all the CPU power available.  the track remains empty,
even though i tried switching recording channels, output mode
(thru/off) and sync (int/ext).  with 'midi_port=/dev/midi' it tells me
'MIDI IN : NoConnect' and doesn't react at all

Rosegarden (2.1pl3-1) [both 0.5 and 0.9]:  quite like Sted2.  in 'MIDI
Setup' it prefers /dev/sequencer.  i can start Timidity in the
background as ALSA sequencer interface mode, and direct the playing
into Timidity port 0.  the playing works without much problems (there
may be some caused by bad latencies).  when trying to record from
"MIDI 0-0", it just hangs and i have to kill the sequencer process.
switching MIDI 0-0 to "Timidity port 0" doesn't help either

Brahms (1.02-3) [ALSA 0.5]:  documentation says that only version of
ALSA it can be run with is 0.5.x.  when run with 'brahms -o alsa', i
cannot choose any options for the output of the tracks, and when
trying to play an imported midi-file brahms doesn't indicate it's
going forward.  when trying to record nothing moves forward

Brahms [ALSA 0.9]: the binary uses the libasound.so.2 -shared library,
suggesting it needs something from ALSA 0.9 (?), so i gave it a try.
it does run, but behaves just like with ALSA 0.5

Brahms [libarts-alsa & ALSA 0.9]: i can record and play with this,
using arts instruments as synths.  nice, promising, but ready-made
arts instruments sound horrible, and i haven't yet bothered to look
artsbuilder.  is there a way to connect this to Timidity?  (Timidity
is of version 2.10.4-2.2, and it doesn't have arts-plugin)

Muse (0.5.2-1) [ALSA 0.5]:  the binaries in Debian won't work with
ALSA 0.5, and there doesn't appear to be a command line option to
switch to use OSS-emulation

Muse [ALSA 

Re: Recent changes in woody broke vmware: AIO: NOT_IMPLEMENTED?

2002-04-07 Thread Greg C. Madden
On Sat, 2002-04-06 at 22:11, Syrus Nemat-Nasser wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> I am still using vmware 2.0.4 on a Debian woody system with kernel 2.4.18.
> I had a working version of vmware, and a recent 'apt-get upgrade' in the
> last day or two seems to have caused this error when vmware tries to
> restore the Win98 session:
> 
>   VMware Workstation PANIC:
>   AIO: NOT_IMPLEMENTED F(566): 1081
> 
> Does anyone have an idea about what I could try to further diagnose the
> problem. Like the previous post regarding this problem (for VMware 3.0), I
> don't know to what AIO refers.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -- Syrus

What breaks VMware during an upgrade is libc6. Ver 2.2.5-3 works ,
2.2.5-4 breaks it.The VMware list (news.vmware.com) has this and says
the new beta 3.1 fixes it. I tried the beta and got an error meesage
about perl being broken. I went back to libc6 2.2.5-3 and all is well.
-- 
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Re: Recent Woody ISO

2002-04-07 Thread Brian W. Carver
Woody ISOs can be found at: http://www.linuxiso.org/debian.html

Not sure if there are more recent ones than that.

Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:

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> Greetings:
>
> Yesterday, I pulled down disk 1 of the unofficial Woody.  I tried to use it
> for an install on a friends RedHat boxen.  It started well (boot) and we
> proceeded through the install.  Finally, boot options were presented, and we
> choose the floppy method.  This failed each time with known good floppies.  I
> finally pulled a 2.2.r3 out and used it, and finally got the nic working, and
> performed a dist-upgrade.
>
> What I would like to learn is where I can get a very recent copy of Woody for
> the next box (a P100)?  I could find no mirrors in the US, only over seas
> which, even with my bw, was very slow.
>
> Thanks for any tips.  Tatah
> - --
>
> Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls
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Re: fatal error: no screens found

2002-04-07 Thread Simon Hepburn
> (**) MGA(0): Using framebuffer device

You aren't using the framebuffer.

> Section "Device"
> Identifier  "Generic Video Card"
> Driver  "mga"

Comment out this line:
># Option  "UseFBDev"  "true"

> Videoram32768
> EndSection

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ICEWM-Configuration

2002-04-07 Thread Josef Oswald

Sorry if I need to ask this question here, after spending a couple of
hours ( trial and error approach) to start IceWM with 4 Program's on 4
different workspaces without much luck I turn to this newsgroup for
help :-( 

this is at the very end of .icewm/winoptions file:

xemacs-21.4.6-mule.workspace:0 # starts on WSP1 
Worker.workspace:1 <-this too works 
mozilla-bin.Mozilla-bin.workspace:2 
#gqview.workspace:3
Gqview.workspace:3 # starts on W-sp one
#/usr/bin/gqview.workspace:3
#/usr/bin/Gqview.workspace: 3
Xterm.workspace:4
#xterm.workspace:4
#Gimp.workspace:5

As can be seen I tried it with Path set, no Path, first letter small
or big, all have the same effect, they are all started at Work-space
one, and I need to move them by hand to their assigned workspaces.  

In order for those program's to start, I had to set in Gnome the
Program's to start. I would like to disable Gnome to startup, but
without Gnome, I have to start all program's by hand. 

I know maybe I should have tried a Linux-distribution that is more
newbie-friendly, but after fooling around with Caldera 2.4 and
Mandrake and a early Suse 6.4 I figured I should give Debian a try,
now I have spend quite a lot of time to set this Distro up, and just
because of ICEWM I don't want to change again.

Also do I need to set something else in .icewm/preferences too? 


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Re: exim and DoD - ipv6 dns lookup

2002-04-07 Thread Markus Grunwald
Hello,

> > marvin is my mailserver and gateway. It is running exim. When I
> > connect to smtp on marvin from another computer (telnet marvin 25),
> > exim does an ipv6 dns lookup for "marvin" which fires up my DoD line
> > :(  
> > 
> > Apr  2 12:55:32 marvin named[2315]: query log on 
> > Apr  2 12:56:22 marvin named[2315]:
> > XX+/192.168.42.103/marvin.galaxy.home//IN Apr  2 12:56:22 marvin
> > named[2315]: ns_forw: sendto([129.187.10.25].53): Network is
> > unreachable Apr  2 12:56:22 marvin named[2315]:
> > XX+/192.168.42.103/marvin.galaxy.home//IN Apr  2 12:56:22 marvin
> > named[2315]: XX+/192.168.42.103/marvin//IN Apr  2 12:56:23
> > marvin named[2315]: XX+/192.168.42.103/marvin//IN Apr  2
> > 12:57:14 marvin named[2315]: query log off  
> Are you also running named?
Yes, on marvin (192.168.42.103)

> It sure looks that way. Can you tell it that
> it's authoritative for galaxy.home. and that it should never ask its
> forwarders (or anyone else) about it?
I don't know how. I have not much clue about nameservers...
 
> Also, I'm not sure I understand what those log lines mean, exactly. Is
> 192.168.42.103 the computer you're connecting from, or is that
> marvin's address? It looks to me like 192.168.42.103 is asking named
> for marvin's address, not that marvin is doing a lookup for itself.
> (Unless marvin == 192.168.42.103, of course.)
You are right: 192.168.42.103 is "eddie.galaxy.home". Eddie is the
computer, on which i do the "telnet marvin 25". Do you have a hint how
to stop eddie doing that lookup ? (There is no bind running on eddie...)


> A simpler (but not as elegant) solution would be to add an entry for
> marvin in your /etc/hosts .

/etc/hosts on eddie and marvin contains the line:
192.168.42.99   marvin.galaxy.home  marvin


> I assume all of your LAN machines are using
> marvin's named as their DNS,
No, I have four computers which rely on their /etc/hosts. 

> so adding the zone would give you the
> advantage of being able to address machines by their internal names.
I dont have any idea what you mean ;) Sorry, never had time to learn
more about bind...

> Please tell me if my assumptions are wrong,
50/50 - you're doing good !

> or if this doesn't work for
> you, or you need help configuring bind.
Well, I first had to learn a lot about bind - it's not fair to let you
do all the work... Do you have any hints, what I could read ?

Perhaps, you have another hint to help me, now that you have new infos ?

Thank you very much for your help !
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Re: IPV6 things...

2002-04-07 Thread Markus Grunwald
Hi !

> > Are YOU using ipv6 ? No ? Well, me neither. It's a nice thing and I
> > will use it if I have to, but up to now, everything here is ipv4.
> 
> Well, yes, actually. It's a really nice thing, and I'd recommend using
> it voluntarily before you absolutely *have* to. 

Hmm. Where can I read something how to do it ? (I found no howto...)
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Reducing font size in X

2002-04-07 Thread Erik van der Meulen
Dear group - I have just installed a Sid box supposed to run only X and
Galeon. I found that the default install leves me with rather large
fonts for the applications.
I recall having solved this before by exchanging the FontPath for 100dpi
and 75dpi in XF86Config. Now I have tried this again without success.
I have noticed a new FontPath on top of the config file:

  FontPath "unix/:7100"

I suppose this has something to do with it (in fact I am sure, if I
comment that line, things work as expected).

Can someone point me to the mechanism for changing the font size here?

Thanks a lot!

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Re: Problems with Debian 3.0 and UT

2002-04-07 Thread Kevin C. Smith
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 05:16:33PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Quoting "Kevin C. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > > My question is, is there any debian users that have got the
> > > GOTY version of UT to work on Debian Woody ?
> > 
> > I have UT GOTY running fine with unstable.
> > I don't remember if I had trouble at first or not. 
> > Sorry I don't have any suggestions. I can work though. 
> > 
> 
> I'II assume you've updated recently ?? (I did a apt-get
> update / upgrade this weekend).
> 
> Strangely enough running 'ldd ut-bin' from the System
> directory returns this nice looking error:
> 
> /usr/bin/ldd: line 1:   708 Segmentation fault 
> LD_TRACE_LOADED_OBJECTS=1 LD_WARN= LD_BIND_NOW=
> LD_LIBRARY_VERSION=$verify_out LD_VERBOSE= "$file"
> 
> running ldd on ucc-bin works fine ...
> 
> /me scratches head.
> 
> I think I am going to do a install of potato and upgrade
> XFree to version 4.x and see if ut works ... 
> 

Apt-get upgraded 30 minutes ago. UT continues to run fine. 

debian:/home/kevin# ldd /usr/local/games/ut/System/ut-bin 
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x4001d000)
libnsl.so.1 => /lib/libnsl.so.1 (0x4002)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x40035000)
Engine.so => not found
Core.so => not found
libSDL-1.1.so.0 => not found
libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40049000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4006a000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)

Did you us this installer: ut-install-436-GOTY.run?
If not reinstall using it.

http://mirrors.sunsite.dk/lokigames/installers/ut/ut-install-436-GOTY.run

Upgrading to XFree86 4.x is a good idea. 
xfree86-common 4.1.0-14 is in Wood/Testing.


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Re: system logs not getting rotated

2002-04-07 Thread Mark S. Reglewski
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:50:19AM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> ii  logrotate  3.5.9-7Log rotation utility
> 
> For several weeks now my system logs have not been getting rotated. All
> logging is going to the .0 files. syslog, daemon.log, auth.log, etc.
> remain at zero length and syslog.0, daemon.log.0, auth.log.0, etc keep
> growing. If I reboot logging goes to the correct file until the first
> rotation.
> 
> Is this a config problem or is there a problem with whichever program
> (logrotate?) does the rotating? Doesn't klogd need to be told to close
> the old file and open the new one? Where does that happen?
> 
> I find no reference to these files in either logrotate.d or
> logrotate.conf nor in the system crontabs. Where is this setup?

Rick, logrotate has nothing to do with the files you are interested in, as
you see from logrotate.conf.  

Look at your /etc/cron.daily/sysklogd and /etc/cron.weekly/sysklogd scripts. 
They use the /usr/bin/savelog utility to rotate system logs.  If log
rotation is broken on your system, something must be wrong here.

You might want to look at man savelog and man syslogd-listfiles.

Do you use exim as MTA?  Exim log rotation is handled by
/etc/cron.daily/exim, also using savelog.  Are your exim logs being rotated
okay?  If so, you'll have a working log rotation script for comparison.

Cordially,
Mark S. Reglewski
  




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Re: Mutt and From: line

2002-04-07 Thread Jerome Acks Jr
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 04:54:36PM -0500, Matthew Daubenspeck wrote:
> I have been messing with mutt and trying to make it display my name
> currectly for FAR too long, and I have gotten no where.
> 
> I have tried every combination of set realname, set from, my_hdr From:
> with every combination of strings I can think of, and I cannot get mutt
> to display my full name in the mutt message list menu. Instead, it just
> displays to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> What the heck am I doing wrong?

I have exim/fetchmail/procmail/mutt setup. As far as I can tell, exim
is generating the From line by combining email address from
/etc/email-addresses and name pulled from /etc/passwd.

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Re: Chrooted Debian install from base image (was Re: Instalation question: Toshiba TECRA 8000)

2002-04-07 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 08:52:50PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
>   - Schlep in a package list from another source that you'd like to run:
> 
>   # On other box:
>   $ dpkg --get-selections > file
>   $ $EDIT file
> 
>   # Transfer file to your new system (floppy, network, carrier
>   # pigeon, whatever).
> 
>   $ dpkg --set-selections < file
> 
>   # In theory, the following works, though I had to kick it a few
>   # times to make it go right:
> 
>   $ apt-get dist-upgrade  # This should work.
>   $ apt-get dselect-upgrade   # This is what I ended up using.
> 
> FIXME:  ...can someone straighten me out on this?

I'm fairly sure you need to use 'apt-get dselect-upgrade' (or 'dselect
install') to act on what you've set using 'dpkg --set-selections'. The
dist-upgrade method makes its own decisions, while dselect-upgrade
actually pays attention to what you've just set in /var/lib/dpkg/status.

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Re: more alt key questions

2002-04-07 Thread Richard Cobbe
Lo, on Saturday, April 6, Bob Thibodeau did write:

> On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 04:16:35PM -0600, Richard Cobbe wrote:

> > First step: see what keysym your alt keys are generating.  Run xev (from
> > the xbase-clients package), make sure the new window has focus, and hit
> > both alt keys.  If you want the plastic bump labeled `alt' on your
> > keyboard to act as meta in emacs, then you should see something like the
> > following:



> > KeyRelease event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x161,
> > root 0x31, subw 0x0, time 223020366, (56,121), root:(810,145),
> > state 0x8, keycode 113 (keysym 0xffe8, Meta_R), same_screen YES,
   ~~~  ~
> > XLookupString gives 0 characters:  ""



> Events are received, 64 and 113.

Since you've already fixed this, I'm just nitpicking.  The relevant
details here are not the keycodes but the keysyms.  Your keyboard
generates, in hardware, a number corresponding to each key (= physical
piece of plastic) on the board; this number is the keycode.  The X
server receives this and maps it into a keysym.  The server sends the
keysym to the application with input focus; apps should never see raw
keycodes.  (On PC hardware, anyway; not sure about how other systems
work off the top of my head.)

For this situation, you'd want to see the keys generating keysyms Meta_L
and Meta_R.

Richard


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Re: configure error 10 with dpkg

2002-04-07 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 09:24:22AM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 07:15, Andreas Grabner wrote:
> >  i have got a problem since some weeks which doesn't solve it self and i
> >  can't solve it. There are more and more packages which exits with
> >  exit status 10. Because i can't find a solution i ask the list for help
> 
> Colin Watson solved my similar problem with the following:
> > Your debconf database is broken in some exciting way. Backing up and
> > moving aside /var/cache/debconf/config.dat and
> > /var/cache/debconf/templates.dat may help, although Joey may have some
> > more cunning solution.

The "more cunning solution" in question might consist of running
/usr/share/debconf/fix_db.pl. Again, do back up the database first just
in case.

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Recent Woody ISO

2002-04-07 Thread Jaye Inabnit ke6sls
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Greetings:

Yesterday, I pulled down disk 1 of the unofficial Woody.  I tried to use it 
for an install on a friends RedHat boxen.  It started well (boot) and we 
proceeded through the install.  Finally, boot options were presented, and we 
choose the floppy method.  This failed each time with known good floppies.  I 
finally pulled a 2.2.r3 out and used it, and finally got the nic working, and 
performed a dist-upgrade.

What I would like to learn is where I can get a very recent copy of Woody for 
the next box (a P100)?  I could find no mirrors in the US, only over seas 
which, even with my bw, was very slow.

Thanks for any tips.  Tatah
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Network connection utility

2002-04-07 Thread Jaye Inabnit ke6sls
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Greetings:

Does anyone know of a utility to reconfigure a network quickly from dialup to 
lan-via-ethernet and back without network breakage?  Would like to use it 
when people bring dialup boxen here to add to my lan for upgrading to Woody.

Thank you
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Re: KIZOMBE KAMARA

2002-04-07 Thread Patrick Kirk
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:02:53AM -0700, peter kamara wrote:
>FROM KIZOMBE KAMARA
>DAKAR SENEGAL. 
>TEL:221-6680399.

How does one cathch these with a spam filter?  To exclude emails with the names 
of West African countries seems a little too broad.  Its almost always a 
Colonel who has recently died.  "late father" perhaps? 

Has anyone got a tripwire that catches these?

Thanks,

Patrick

PS - I still prefer the ones that invite you to a meeting at which you will 
"sing agreements." :-)


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Re: less and xterm

2002-04-07 Thread Patrick Kirk
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 09:55:47AM +0200, Patrik Modesto wrote:
>Hi!
>
>The problem: less and zless programs unset options 'Enable Application
>Cursor Keys' and 'Enable Application Keypad' in xterm.
>

Would you consider using aterm instead?  Its smaller and lighter than
xterm and does you want. 


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ethernet upgrade

2002-04-07 Thread xucaen
Hi all,
I am researching upgrading my thinnet 10BaseT to twisted pair 100BaseT.
I am loading the ne module from etc/modules. I plan on upgrading my Linksys
10Base cards with Linksys 100base cards. I believe I will not need to load
a different module. Is this in fact true?

Is there a HOWTO out there that talks about different configurations of network
hardware? I want to read up on hubs and routers. I might possibly dable in DSL
using a router.

Thanks!!

Xucaen


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Re: USB Mass Storage in 2.4.18-686

2002-04-07 Thread john
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 09:01:47AM -0400, Thomas R. Shemanske wrote:
> Sorry to be so long in getting back to the list, but I had been working 
> at home on a laptop with USB options compiled into the kernel, and 
> wanted to make sure that using them as modules was not the problem.  I 
> am at work now where I am running a 2.4.18 kernel built from the debian 
> source packages (and USB as modules), and the Sandisk card reader works 
> flawlessly.

Thanks so much - I now have a 2.4.18 with the card reader working.

> I will attach my kerenl config file for comparison, and make a few comments

[snip]

> usb-uhci   20996   0 (unused)

I found that I needed to edit /etc/modules, changing

uhci

to 

usb-uhci

Since this is a fairly new installation I think modconf may have set it
to uhci when I installed. Wonder if the stock kernel will now use the
reader with that option? I'll have to try I suppose.

Anyway, for comparison

$sudo lsmod
Module  Size  Used byTainted: P  
sd_mod  9852   2  (autoclean)
ipt_REJECT  2784   1  (autoclean)
ipt_LOG 3104   2  (autoclean)
ipt_state608   2  (autoclean)
ipt_MASQUERADE  1216   1  (autoclean)
iptable_nat12724   1  (autoclean) [ipt_MASQUERADE]
ip_conntrack   12876   2  (autoclean) [ipt_state ipt_MASQUERADE 
iptable_nat]
iptable_filter  1728   1  (autoclean)
ip_tables  10464   8  [ipt_REJECT ipt_LOG ipt_state ipt_MASQUERADE 
iptable_nat iptable_filter]
ppp_deflate39040   0  (autoclean)
bsd_comp3968   0  (autoclean)
ppp_async   6176   1  (autoclean)
ppp_generic18728   3  (autoclean) [ppp_deflate bsd_comp ppp_async]
slhc4352   0  (autoclean) [ppp_generic]
agpgart21056   3  (autoclean)
NVdriver  945280  10 
ide-cd 26336   0  (autoclean)
cdrom  28896   0  (autoclean) [ide-cd]
usb-uhci   20996   0  (unused)
nbd14688   0  (unused)
sound  53388   0  (unused)
usb-storage20412   1 
scsi_mod   51548   2  [sd_mod usb-storage]
usbcore48448   0  [usb-uhci usb-storage]
tulip  37408   1 
smbfs  31232   0  (unused)
efs 6752   0  (unused)
unix   13316 102  (autoclean)

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sequencers in Debian Woody

2002-04-07 Thread Juha Erkkila
hello Linux audio users and fellow debianists

about a month ago i upgraded my system from Debian Potato to Woody,
looking forward to see all the interesting sound applications people
have been writing, and which ones of those have been packaged for
Debian.  overall, i've been fairly happy with them, with the exception
of all the four sequencers in Woody: Sted2, Rosegarden, Brahms and
Muse

i hope i'm not expecting too much from any of these:  all i want to do
is to record my playing from the midi-keyboard while using Timidity as
a soft synth, and then being able to save my playing as a midi-file.
my Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] sound card doesn't have a built-in
synth, so i have to use Timidity (or something similar).  my
midi-keyboard is known as "MK-61 midi keyboard controller", with
15-pin "midi port", connected to the soundcard that also feeds power
to the keyboard

there doesn't appear to be any hardware problem, as i can do 'cat
/dev/sequencer' and i get some output, "test audio and midi" in PD
assures me that at least PD can read my midi-keyboard correctly, and
(more convincingly) 'timidity -iA -B 2,8 -Os && aconnect 64:0 128:0'
enables me to drive Timidity with the keyboard.  yet despite these i'm
still unable to do any midi-recording with any of these sequencers
while rendering my playing with Timidity

some info on my configurations:  i'm using 2.4.18 kernel and i've
tried using both ALSA 0.5.12a-2 and 0.9+0beta10-6.
my /etc/alsa/modutils/0.5 and /etc/alsa/modutils/0.9 are identical:

--cut--
# --- BEGIN: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---
# --- ALSACONF verion 0.4.3b ---
alias char-major-116 snd
alias snd-card-0 snd-card-ens1371
alias char-major-14 soundcore
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
options snd snd_major=116 snd_cards_limit=2 snd_device_mode=0660 
snd_device_gid=29 snd_device_uid=0
options snd-card-ens1371 snd_index=0 snd_id=ENSONIQ
# --- END: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---

# virtual midi:
alias snd-card-1 snd-card-virmidi
alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1
options snd-card-virmidi snd_index=1 snd_id=VIRTUAL_MIDI
--cut--

okay, here's my experiences with all these four sequencers:

Sted2 (2.07m+20010303-3) [ALSA 0.5 and 0.9]:  (note: Sted2 has to be
patched or run as 'LC_CTYPE=C sted2' or something similar in a
scandanavian environment when using X.)  i have configured it with a
line 'player=1,timidity -id -f -EFchorus=0 -EFreverb=0 -s44.1 -Os' in
/etc/sted2/sted2.cnf, and it can load and play midi-files without a
problem.  while using either the default setting or
'midi_port=/dev/sequencer', it informs me with 'MIDI IN : midi' in the
main screen.  after choosing a track and while trying to record into
it, it responds to my first keyboard press with a ticking metronome.
i hit my keyboard but no sound comes out nor actual recording happens.
i can stop this by pressing reset.  during this so-called recording
sted2 consumes all the CPU power available.  the track remains empty,
even though i tried switching recording channels, output mode
(thru/off) and sync (int/ext).  with 'midi_port=/dev/midi' it tells me
'MIDI IN : NoConnect' and doesn't react at all

Rosegarden (2.1pl3-1) [both 0.5 and 0.9]:  quite like Sted2.  in 'MIDI
Setup' it prefers /dev/sequencer.  i can start Timidity in the
background as ALSA sequencer interface mode, and direct the playing
into Timidity port 0.  the playing works without much problems (there
may be some caused by bad latencies).  when trying to record from
"MIDI 0-0", it just hangs and i have to kill the sequencer process.
switching MIDI 0-0 to "Timidity port 0" doesn't help either

Brahms (1.02-3) [ALSA 0.5]:  documentation says that only version of
ALSA it can be run with is 0.5.x.  when run with 'brahms -o alsa', i
cannot choose any options for the output of the tracks, and when
trying to play an imported midi-file brahms doesn't indicate it's
going forward.  when trying to record nothing moves forward

Brahms [ALSA 0.9]: the binary uses the libasound.so.2 -shared library,
suggesting it needs something from ALSA 0.9 (?), so i gave it a try.
it does run, but behaves just like with ALSA 0.5

Brahms [libarts-alsa & ALSA 0.9]: i can record and play with this,
using arts instruments as synths.  nice, promising, but ready-made
arts instruments sound horrible, and i haven't yet bothered to look
artsbuilder.  is there a way to connect this to Timidity?  (Timidity
is of version 2.10.4-2.2, and it doesn't have arts-plugin)

Muse (0.5.2-1) [ALSA 0.5]:  the binaries in Debian won't work with
ALSA 0.5, and there doesn't appear to be a command line option to
switch to use OSS-emulation

Muse [ALSA 0.9]: i can create a track, add iiwu-1 instance to soft
synths -list, add it to a midi-port table and then i have to switch
device name to MIDI 0-0 so that i can mark it as a recording sour

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