cd writing with USB CD-RW

[John Griffiths]

hello all

I've been using cdrecord very happily to burn cd's through ide-scsi

can anyone suggest how I'd go about using a USB cdrw?

Thanks for your time

John

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Re: Setting up Email from multiple POP accounts

[synthespian]

On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 08:25:18PM -0500, dman wrote:
> On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 10:17:06AM +1000, Damian Del Campo wrote:
> | Hi I'm looking to setup email on a debian machine -> I have a network
> | of computers at home, one of which is set up as a router, file server
> | and now hopefully a mail repository. 
> | I want this computer to download my mail from various pop email
> | accounts such as,
> | 
> | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> | I want all this mail to be downloaded to a central computer
> 
> Use fetchmail to grab mail from any number of POP and IMAP servers.

 Hi-
Me too. Use fetchmail.
fetchmail -p POP3 -u USERNAME
will prompt you for PW
Use filters.

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Re: Woody: make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct

[Bob Proulx]

> Just a quick question on a related matter. I have been using this
> machine for a while now. $LANG was always set to C.

C is the same as POSIX and the same as unset which is to say you get
traditional sort order.  Things are sorted like US-ASCII which is
[A-Z] before [a-z] and the like.  Setting to en_US and other overrides
the default behavior and changes the sort ordering, among other
things.

> I installed the locales package and reconfigured to en_US. What
> exactly does this do for me?

Everything that sorts such as the sort command, ls, /bin/bash when
doing glob expansion, etc. literally everything will now sort in
dictionary order.  Like [AaBbCcDd] and so on.

Check out the differences between these two commands on different
directories.

  LC_ALL=POSIX ls -a

  LC_ALL=en_US ls -a

Assuming that you have en_US installed then you will find that things
are now sorting in dictionary order instead of us-ascii order.  That
is, Makefile is next to makefile, Aligator is next to aardvark, for
example.

> Could somebody please explain how locales work? Is it specific to Linux?
> Specific to Debian? 

Locales are tables which configure the strcoll() library routine which
applications call when sorting.  Do a 'man strcoll' to start that
documentation trail.  If you have different tables then you can
support say chinese sort order which can make native language support
possible.  Prior to locales everything was in us-ascii and if you did
not speak english you were out of luck.

I can't help too much but if you want to see how commands react to it
you can check out the online standards documentation for a command
such as sort.

  http://www.unix-systems.org/single_unix_specification_v2/xcu/sort.html

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Re: two ethernet cards

[Elizabeth Barham]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I am trying to set up a firewall, however I have hit a snag that I
> cannot seem to get around.  I am trying to run two ethernet cards,
> both of them are Netgear FA310TX cards, and both are supposed to run
> on the tulip driver.  When I install the OS, and I set up eth0, it
> works fine, right from the get go.  However, when I try to get eth1
> to work, it will not do so.  First, I gave both different static ips
> on the same network, and I unplugged one and pinged them.  eth0
> would respons to both ips, but eth1 would respond to neither.  Next
> I put them both on seperate networks.  eth0 worked fine, no matter
> if it was the cable modem or a lan.  eth1 will not take a ping.

Dumb question, I know, but just to cover the basics:

Does the NIC you are using for eth1 work at all if the other NIC
(eth0) is not in the box/conntected?

> the two cards are on seperate ips, eth0 has a DHCP server on it's
> side.  I type ifconfig and I get this (I took out lo)

> eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:A0:CC:53:66:08
>   inet addr:192.168.1.1  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
>   UP BROADCAST RUNNING  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   RX packets:680 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:391 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
>   Interrupt:11 Base address:0xe800
> 
> eth1  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:A0:CC:61:E9:65
>   inet addr:192.168.1.20  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
>   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
>   Interrupt:10 Base address:0xec00

> No major problem here except that eth1 appears to be getting no
> traffic.

> I type in "modprobe eth0", and get nothing, but when I type in
> "modprobe eth1" I get "modprobe: Can't locate module eth1"

> when I type in "dmesg | tail" I get a big list of stuff, I believe
> the last three lines are the most pertinant, they are as follows:

> eth0: Lite-On 82c168 PNIC rev 32 at 0xe800, 00:A0:CC:53:66:08, IRQ 11.
> eth0:  MII transceiver #1 config 3000 status 7829 advertising 01e1.
> eth1: Lite-On 82c168 PNIC rev 32 at 0xec00, 00:A0:CC:61:E9:65, IRQ 10.

> Someone told me that it was a routing issue, but I have no idea if
> that's true or not.  I really don't know what the problem here is,
> least of all how to fix it.  Obviously I cannot get my NAT server to
> work if it can only use one ethernet card.  I really hope someone
> can help me with this because I was really hopeing to replace my
> Win2k server.  If you need any more information, please tell me.

The routing issue may be in relation to the system having to choose
the best interface to send out packets. Perhaps it's using a
"first-come, first-served" method in that it's sending packets onto
the same network; that is, the system logic may be, "oh, this packet
goes to 192.168.1.0 network. I need to reply, so which interface goes
to this network. Here's a list that begins with eth0; what network is
it on? 192.168.1.0. Ok! What's it's metric? 1. That's the lowest it
can go, so out the packet goes on eth0."

Have you tried tcpdump while watching eth0 and eth1 respond to pings?
Is it possible that eth1 is receiving pings but eth0 is doing the
reply?

As for "modprobe eth1". From the man-page:

   modprobe  [  -adnqv  ] [ -C config ] module [ symbol=value ... ]
   modprobe [ -adnqv ] [ -C config ] [ -t type ] pattern
   modprobe -l [ -C config ] [ -t type ] pattern
   modprobe -c [ -C config ]
   modprobe -r [ -dnv ] [ -C config ] [ module ...]
   modprobe -V

It's expecting a module name and not an interface name, *although* one
can set up aliases in /etc/modutils/aliases. Even if eth1 is set up as
an alias to "82c168" (or whatever the correct module name is), it
wouldn't really matter in regards to the interfaces themselves because
it is the same module (it's like typing in "modprobe 82c168" for
"modprobe eth0" or "modprobe eth1").

Since you're able to "ifconfig eth1 192.168.1.20 up", the modutil
problem doesn't seem related - the system recognizes eth1 as a valid
interface and isn't throwing a "DEVICE NOT FOUND" (or something to
that effect) error.

Elizabeth


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Re: synaptic ???

[Michael D. Schleif]

Andy Saxena wrote:
> 
> On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 08:40:27PM -0500, Michael D. Schleif wrote:
> >
> > Anybody used synaptic on debian to manage rpm's?
> >
> > It is a graphical/x app that must run as root -- and, by default, root
> > cannot run x apps ;<
> 
> Eh? I run X apps all the time. Heck, I can even run KDE/ Gnome as root.
> As far as I can remember, I didn't do anything special to enable this.
> 
> Care to enlighten me?

I've seen it before; and, on this new woody, root cannot start x.  I've
seen this on this List, too.

I do not know where this is configured; but, as my other post asks, I'd
like to know how to manage this.

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Mail-Followup-To: hacking in mutt

[dman]

I was going through the mutt FAQ and came across this :

How can I change the Mail-Followup-To Header?

Simply set mutt's edit_hdrs variable, and supply one yourself.
Mutt will generate a Mail-Followup-To header if and only if you
didn't supply one, and the message is directed to at least one
subscribed mailing list.

HTH,
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Re: SIGNAL 11 In libjvm.so

[dman]

On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 10:45:52PM -0500, Eric Brooks wrote:
| I am running on Woody Debian Kernel 2.2.19. I just installed the Blackdown
| distribution of Java 1.3. Occassionally, when I just enter the 'java'
| command, I get a SIGNAL 11, as illustrated below. 
| 
| From my reading, it looks like this could indicate either a hardware or a
| software problem. Has anyone else seen this issue in the Blackdown java?

Yeah, I've seen various JVMs crash (with segfaults) not too
infrequently.

| If not then I'll assume I have a hardware problem.

If no other program has random segfaults, then you probably don't have
hardware problems.  Compiling a kernel (or other large software
package) is often a good test of this.  Alternatively use 'memtest86'
if you want to be really sure it isn't a memory problem.

| # HotSpot Virtual Machine Error : 11
| # Error ID : 4F530E43505002CC
| # Please report this error at
| # http://java.sun.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi

This looks a lot like a software problem.

-D

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Re: Package Configures inittab

[tom r]

Jerome,

Thanks for the suggestion, and I've searched that file extensively.  Still no 
clue.  But I should be able to track this down during the init process.  
Everytime I reboot a line gets added to inittab.  How can I track this down?

Thanks.

Tom


On Tuesday 28 May 2002 16:14, Jerome Acks Jr wrote:
> On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 03:00:46PM -0600, tom r wrote:
> > Eric,
> >
> > Thanks for the response.  I ran `dpkg-reconfigure sysvinit' but it did
> > not bring up the screen to request an addition to inittab, so I don't
> > think sysvinit is the one.  Besides, when I installed debian on a
> > previous laptop, the question never appeared and I'm sure sysvinit is
> > common to both.  So it has to be a package that I installed on the one
> > but not the other.  I guessed it to be ppp but running `dpkg-reconfigure
> > ppp' doesn't bring the screen up either.
> >
> > Any other ideas?
>
> If you can remember the question, you may be able to search
> /var/cache/debconf/templates.dat and find the associated  package.


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Re: unresolved symbols on Woody with a RH module

[whbell]

Quoting Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 03:29:02PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I am running Woody with my own 2.4.18 kernel based on the 2.4.18-5 deb 
> > package.  I have a supplier that has delivered a kernel module for a
> special 
> > software modem that was developed using RH 7.2 with the default 2.4.7
> kernel.
> > 
> > I have set CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y but when I try to insmod the module I get
> the 
> > following-
> > 
> > suDriver.o: unresolved symbol boot_cpu_data_R65dda927
> > suDriver.o: unresolved symbol register_chrdev_R827e2e0f
> > suDriver.o:
> > Hint: You are trying to load a module without a GPL compatible license
> >   and it has unresolved symbols.  Contact the module supplier for
> >   assistance, only they can help you.
> 
> You're going to have to contact the supplier for a module built against
> a more recent kernel then ... CONFIG_MODVERSIONS can paper over some
> problems, but not all of them.
> 

Thats what I figured :(  Help from my supplier is not really an option in the 
short term, but you can bet they will deliver a kernel patch if I have my way :)

If I downgrade to a 2.4.7 kernel, (with memory problems and all), do I have a 
chance this module will work?

If so, How do I find the 2.4.7 kernel-source.deb? (Archives?)

Would using the 2.4.7 kernel source from RH 7.2 help for compatability?

I know I can get the source from kernel.org instead if needed, but do I loose 
any "good" stuff in the way of Debian kernel patches or such?

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Re: Debian: local settings?

[Petr Vanek]

On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 09:43:14PM -0600, David Jackson wrote:
> Petr --
> No having this correctly set was causing problems with man pages.
> The soluton was to run:
> dpkg-reconfigure locales
> 
> Which added this line the /etc/locales.gen:
> en_US ISO-8859-1

i see, ok, so it means - at least one of the locales needs to be
selected, right?

another experiences (i might repost it to debian-user): i have a
multi user local system when my users are multi-lingual (english, czech,
german and russian) and i have been using gdm as the login screen. the
strange think is, that i have to before-head generate all the locales which are
needed by the gdm - there is no connection in between gdm and
locale-gen. 
another thing: when you generate locales (and use gdm) you
can not set up the default locale, otherwise gdm does not set the locales
properly (edit /etc/environment to repair it, or run locale-conf again).
another think not to point, just ask: how do i set up my X window fonts
to work correctly in this multiuser/multi-lingual situation, that each
locale gets appropriate font?

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Re: synaptic ???

[Andy Saxena]

On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 08:40:27PM -0500, Michael D. Schleif wrote:
> 
> Anybody used synaptic on debian to manage rpm's?
> 
> It is a graphical/x app that must run as root -- and, by default, root
> cannot run x apps ;<
> 

Eh? I run X apps all the time. Heck, I can even run KDE/ Gnome as root.
As far as I can remember, I didn't do anything special to enable this.

Care to enlighten me?

Thanks,
Andy



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Re: sort

[Dave Carrigan]

O Senhor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>   How can i delete equal lines from a file, without sort it?
>   If i use sort -u, the command clean up the repeat lines, but sort my
> file (ascendent). I don't want this. I need my file in original form.

perl -ne 'print unless $lines{$_}++' filename

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Re: 'debian' submenus have disappeared from my KDE menu

[Andy Saxena]

On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 02:18:04AM +0200, I.J.W. Wever wrote:
> This morning I learned the hard way why one should alias 'rm' to 'rm -i'.

Opinions will wary, but that is not necessary. Besides, it will get you
into the habit of depending on "-i" as a check of last resort. If you
were on another machine, where this alias didn't exist, you could do quite a
bit of damage. What you need is a good backup implementation.

> Everything is allright now, except for one tiny thing: every major topic
> in the KDE menu used to hold a 'debian' submenu, where all installed
> applications, not directly associated with KDE could be selected.
> Those submenus have disappeared after the re-install and I can't find a way 
> to
> return them (apart from adding every program by hand to self-made 'debian'
> submenus ;)). I found that structure quite convenient, so I wonder if anyone
> on this list might know how to return them.
> 
> sincerely.
> 
> Ivo Wever
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

See Joachim's reply.


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Re: problem with sound...

[Andy Saxena]

On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 11:45:07PM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >Here's what is says for my sound card:
> >
> >Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio
> >Controller (rev 40)
> > Subsystem: Gateway 2000: Unknown device 1200
> > Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 10
> > I/O ports at e000 [size=256]
> > I/O ports at e100 [size=4]
> > I/O ports at e104 [size=4]
> > Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2
> >
> >I tried enabling the Via chipset in my kernel, but so far I've been
> >unsucessful...if there anything else I need to do?
> >
> >Alex Lo
> > 
> >
> I'm sending this to the list instead of to Alex, for three reasons:
> 1) It'll be archived for future reference.
> 2) Others on the list may (or may not) benefit from the dialog.
> 3) Others on the list may have better/additional information than I 
> provide.
> If there's some reason you (Alex) don't want this discussion in public, 
> let me know.
> 
> It sounds like you're compiling your own kernel. I'm not sure what 
> kernel version you're using, but if it's 2.4.18 (or around that one), 
> you need to go into the Sound option and enable the "VIA82C686 Audio 
> Codec". If this is what you meant in your post above, did you enable it 
> as a module or as built-in? If as a module, what does "lsmod" show?
> 
> I could never get a VIA VT8233 AC97 sound system working using the 
> kernel sources alone, and had to resort to using Also. If you want to 
> got that route you can install the Alsa source with "apt-get install 
> alsa-source". IIRC, it should put a .tar (or .tgz or .bz2) file in 
> /usr/src. Unzip/tar it, and then look in the 
> /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver directory. Read INSTALL. There's about 7 
> steps in the "Quick Install" section. If you run into difficulties at 
> that point, holler again.
> 
> Kent
> 

Don't forget to add yourself to the audio group :-). Otherwise, nothing
else will work.

-Andy


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SIGNAL 11 In libjvm.so

[Eric Brooks]

I am running on Woody Debian Kernel 2.2.19. I just installed the Blackdown
distribution of Java 1.3. Occassionally, when I just enter the 'java'
command, I get a SIGNAL 11, as illustrated below. 

From my reading, it looks like this could indicate either a hardware or a
software problem. Has anyone else seen this issue in the Blackdown java? If
not then I'll assume I have a hardware problem.

Thanks for your help,

Eric

Unexpected Signal : 11 occurred at PC=0x4025f988
Function name=pending_exception__C6Thread
Library=/usr/lib/j2re1.3/lib/i386/client/libjvm.so

Cannot obtain thread information

Dynamic libraries:
08048000-0804c000 r-xp  03:03 243248 
/usr/lib/j2sdk1.3/bin/i386/native_threads/java
0804c000-0804d000 rw-p 3000 03:03 243248 
/usr/lib/j2sdk1.3/bin/i386/native_threads/java
4000-40013000 r-xp  03:03 177375 /lib/ld-2.2.5.so
40013000-40014000 rw-p 00013000 03:03 177375 /lib/ld-2.2.5.so
4001d000-4002a000 r-xp  03:03 177394 /lib/libpthread-0.9.so
4002a000-40031000 rw-p d000 03:03 177394 /lib/libpthread-0.9.so
40032000-4003d000 r-xp  03:03 33670  
/usr/lib/j2re1.3/lib/i386/native_threads/libhpi.so
4003d000-4003e000 rw-p a000 03:03 33670  
/usr/lib/j2re1.3/lib/i386/native_threads/libhpi.so
4003e000-40301000 r-xp  03:03 402978 
/usr/lib/j2re1.3/lib/i386/client/libjvm.so
40301000-40318000 rw-p 002c2000 03:03 402978 
/usr/lib/j2re1.3/lib/i386/client/libjvm.so
4033-40332000 r-xp  03:03 177381 /lib/libdl-2.2.5.so
40332000-40333000 rw-p 1000 03:03 177381 /lib/libdl-2.2.5.so
40333000-40446000 r-xp  03:03 177378 /lib/libc-2.2.5.so
40446000-4044c000 rw-p 00113000 03:03 177378 /lib/libc-2.2.5.so
4045-40451000 r-xp  03:03 177376 /lib/libBrokenLocale-2.2.5.so
40451000-40452000 rw-p  03:03 177376 /lib/libBrokenLocale-2.2.5.so
40452000-40463000 r-xp  03:03 177383 /lib/libnsl-2.2.5.so
40463000-40464000 rw-p 0001 03:03 177383 /lib/libnsl-2.2.5.so
40466000-40486000 r-xp  03:03 177382 /lib/libm-2.2.5.so
40486000-40487000 rw-p 0001f000 03:03 177382 /lib/libm-2.2.5.so
40488000-4049a000 r-xp  03:03 82314  
/usr/lib/j2re1.3/lib/i386/libverify.so
4049a000-4049c000 rw-p 00011000 03:03 82314  
/usr/lib/j2re1.3/lib/i386/libverify.so
4049c000-404bf000 r-xp  03:03 82315  
/usr/lib/j2re1.3/lib/i386/libjava.so
404bf000-404c1000 rw-p 00022000 03:03 82315  
/usr/lib/j2re1.3/lib/i386/libjava.so
404c2000-404d7000 r-xp  03:03 82316  
/usr/lib/j2re1.3/lib/i386/libzip.so
404d7000-404da000 rw-p 00014000 03:03 82316  
/usr/lib/j2re1.3/lib/i386/libzip.so
404da000-411f3000 r--s  03:03 307669 /usr/lib/j2re1.3/lib/rt.jar
4122-414c5000 r--s  03:03 307670 /usr/lib/j2re1.3/lib/i18n.jar
414c5000-414db000 r--s  03:03 307658 
/usr/lib/j2re1.3/lib/sunrsasign.jar
43583000-4358d000 r-xp  03:03 177384 /lib/libnss_compat-2.2.5.so
4358d000-4358e000 rw-p 9000 03:03 177384 /lib/libnss_compat-2.2.5.so

Local Time = Tue May 28 22:29:32 2002
Elapsed Time = 0
#
# HotSpot Virtual Machine Error : 11
# Error ID : 4F530E43505002CC
# Please report this error at
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#
Usage: java [-options] class [args...]
   (to execute a class)
   or  java -jar [-options] jarfile [args...]
   (to execute a jar file)

where options include:
-client   to select the "client" VM
-server   to select the "server" VM
-classic  to select the "classic" VM
  If present, the option to select the VM must be first.
  The default VM is -client.

-cp -classpath 
  set search path for application classes and resources
-D=
  set a system property
-verbose[:class|gc|jni]
  enable verbose output
-version  print product version and exit
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two ethernet cards

[kbdlock]

I am trying to set up a firewall, however I have hit a 
snag that I cannot seem to get around.  I am trying to 
run two ethernet cards, both of them are Netgear FA310TX 
cards, and both are supposed to run on the tulip 
driver.  When I install the OS, and I set up eth0, it 
works fine, right from the get go.  However, when I try 
to get eth1 to work, it will not do so.  First, I gave 
both different static ips on the same network, and I 
unplugged one and pinged them.  eth0 would respons to 
both ips, but eth1 would respond to neither.  Next I put 
them both on seperate networks.  eth0 worked fine, no 
matter if it was the cable modem or a lan.  eth1 will 
not take a ping.
the two cards are on seperate ips, eth0 has a DHCP 
server on it's side.  I type ifconfig and I get this (I 
took out lo)
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:A0:CC:53:66:08
  inet addr:192.168.1.1  Bcast:192.168.1.255 
Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:680 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 
frame:0
  TX packets:391 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 
carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
  Interrupt:11 Base address:0xe800

eth1  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:A0:CC:61:E9:65
  inet addr:192.168.1.20  Bcast:192.168.1.255  
Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  
Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 
frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 
carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
  Interrupt:10 Base address:0xec00

No major problem here except that eth1 appears to be 
getting no traffic.

I type in "modprobe eth0", and get nothing, but when I 
type in "modprobe eth1" I get "modprobe: Can't locate 
module eth1"

when I type in "dmesg | tail" I get a big list of stuff, 
I believe the last three lines are the most pertinant, 
they are as follows:
eth0: Lite-On 82c168 PNIC rev 32 at 0xe800, 
00:A0:CC:53:66:08, IRQ 11.
eth0:  MII transceiver #1 config 3000 status 7829 
advertising 01e1.
eth1: Lite-On 82c168 PNIC rev 32 at 0xec00, 
00:A0:CC:61:E9:65, IRQ 10.

Someone told me that it was a routing issue, but I have 
no idea if that's true or not.  I really don't know what 
the problem here is, least of all how to fix it.  
Obviously I cannot get my NAT server to work if it can 
only use one ethernet card.  I really hope someone can 
help me with this because I was really hopeing to 
replace my Win2k server.  If you need any more 
information, please tell me.  Thank you


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Re: Fonts using various screen resolutions

[Andy Saxena]

On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 02:50:56PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have been doing a lot of reading on de-uglifying fonts on X. I have 
> installed truetype fonts, worked on xfs, tried different configurations in my 
> applications.
> 
> In the end it worked quite well, but nowhere near to what I was used to on 
> that Other System. I was running 1280x1024 on my 19 inch monitor. Just for 
> the heck of it I tried 1600x1200. Automagically all my fonts are
> now perfect. In fact browsing looks at least as good as IE/Mozilla on Win.
> 
> The refresh rate of my screen is now a lot less. This is the only trade-off. 
> 
> If I decide that the higher refresh rate is more important than the 1600x1200 
> refresh rate and go back to 1280x1024, I would like my fonts to stay the 
> same. Does anyone know a way to do this? I don't
> want to manually change the order of all my fonts available to xfs or change 
> any individual application but rather configure X and be done. Is this 
> possible?
> 
> I won't get used to the combination of the two words: Linux and 
> automagically, I promise. But being rather new to the system, I have a lot to 
> learn, install and configure. Working on fonts is just not sexy enough
> for me ;).
> 
> Bob
> 

An oft-repated suggestion - if you are using X > version 4 you don't
need a font server. You need to load the various modules for the types
of fonts you want - freetype, speedo, type1 etc. I think you can find
discussion threads on this if you can search the archives.

My fonts work just as good as the Other System. Of course, I run
1024x768 so maybe at a higher res the difference, if any, is more apparent.

A bit of advice from my own sufferings as a newbie: read up on the
theory, and whatever other documentation you can lay your hands on. You
will save yourself a lot of headbanging. I still remember the time when
I was a new user, and I was trying to get sound support to work on an
old SB card. I strugged 16 hours, doing the usual Window-ish things -
installing/ uninstalling, rebooting, everything short of banging on the
keyboard. Then I sat down to read up on the documentation: it was a
simple IRQ setting. Two minutes and two line-edits later I was a much
wiser man.

Good luck,
Andy


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Re: jdk 1.4.0 ???

[Walter Reed]

On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 05:32:31PM -0500, Michael D. Schleif wrote:
> 
> opennms wants to start; but, now, it tells me that I need jdk 1.4.0.
> 
> Where can I find this deb?
> 
> What do you think?

Don't know about the deb but just go to sun's web site and download it.
It's VERY easy.


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Re: Woody: make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct

[Andy Saxena]

On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 01:53:04AM -0400, David Jackson wrote:
> Jeff --
> Thanks for you reply.
> 
> 
> 
> According to /etc/locale.gen this is the command to build locales. 
> (and it worked)
> 
> dpkg-reconfigure locales
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 

Just a quick question on a related matter. I have been using this
machine for a while now. $LANG was always set to C. I installed the locales
package and reconfigured to en_US. What exactly does this do for me? I
know a lot of packages come with documentation and code that's for
languages other than English, and that stuff still gets installed on my
computer even though I have no use for it.

Could somebody please explain how locales work? Is it specific to Linux?
Specific to Debian? 

I did a google search, but it didn't turn up anything authoritative.
Pointers to a good documentation source would be greatly appreciated. 

Thanks,
Andy


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EXplanation: Re: Applications not using hosts file for name resolution

[John]

Pete Harlan wrote:

This is a wierd but correct behaviour of IPv6 resolution. There are a 
huge number of bug reports about it.




Do you know the rationale behind IPv6 considering this 'correct'?
If you could explain it for the benefit of myself and everyone else
who gets bit by this and searches the Debian archives, I'd be most
grateful.

It's patently a bug, if only in the IPv6 spec.  Overriding DNS is half
of what we use the hosts file _for_...

Many thanks,

--Pete

(Not the guy who makes Pete's Wicked Ale)



Firstly checkout bug #147997 
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=147997&repeatmerged=yes


Then as directed /usr/share/doc/libc6/BUGS.gz (at the end of file).

Buried somewhere in the BTS is the full story of what the exact problem 
is. As I recall it has something to do with IPv6 resolvers always check 
DNS 1st in order to dertermine  what address family they should use or 
somesuch. If they get an answer then they never go to the 'normal' 
resolution process of checking nsswitch etc.


Hopefully someone who knows the libc6 maintainer can get a sane and 
qualified answer. I wouldnt be suprised if all use of gethostbyaddr() is 
actually deprecated...


John P Foster



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Re: upgrading from stable to woody

[Rob Weir]

On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 06:59:11PM -0400, Robert Funnell wrote:
> I was going to ask if one could do this using dselect rather than
> apt-get dist-upgrade, but concluded that it was a dumb question and
> that the answer was obviously 'no'. I guess I was wrong. Do you have
> to do anything special in dselect, or it's just a straight Upgrade?
Yep, should work.  You might want to give aptitude a try tho, a lot of
people (including me) vastly prefer it over dselect.  Make sure you're
using the 'apt' access method tho (AFAIK, it's been the default since
slink).

> When woody becomes stable, we'll just set our sources.list back to
> stable and carry on?
Yes, you can do this.  Remember tho, that current woody distribution
will be called woody until the end of time (barring security updates,
minor package revisions), so if you set your apt line to woody, that's
what you will have, regardless of the 'new' testing or releases.

> I'm also confused about kernels. I think I read that there was a
> choice of kernel versions to use with woody. I guess there's no
> problem with upgrading to woody using the same old kernel?
No problem here, woody is quite happy running a 2.2 kernel.  2.0
(modular ones, anyhow) is out, AFAIK, due to the newer modutils

> I assume that dselect doesn't do kernels.
You can indeed use dselect to install a new kernel; have a look at the
kernel-image-xxx packages.  Since the kernel is such a vital part of the
system tho, and subject to a lot of site-specific configuration, dselect
(and apt and aptitude and...) will never try to upgrade your kernel.  If
you want a newer one, you'll have to install the approriate kernel-image
package yourself.

> Sorry if I'm asking dumb questions after all :-)
The only dumb question is the unasked one;)

-rob


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Re: How can I go further?

[dman]

On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 10:45:00AM +0800, Squirrel wrote:
| Dear All,
| I have installed the minimal Debian Mips OS and also want to install
| the compiler environment include the gcc ,ld,binutil and so on.Can you
| give me a hand?

If you're using potato :
apt-get install task-c-devel

If you're using woody :
taskel
(and select the "C Development" task).

-D

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Re: Where to ask: Can procmail modify a header field? Add a header field?

[dman]

On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 10:40:39PM -0400, Daniel Barclay wrote:
 
| Can procmail modify a message header field (e.g., prepend "spam:" to
| the subject field value)?  Can it add a header field?

Yes (more or less, at least).

| (The procmailrc manual page leaves quite a bit to be desired.)

It does.

| I can filter mail via .forward in my shell account on my ISP's machine, 
| and then download via POP using Netscape.  I'd like to use .procmail to
| detect suspected spam and then put something in the message header that
| I can use in Netscape (4.x) filters to filter the messages.

Install SpamAssassin.  Then use this as your first recipe :

 :0fw
 | spamassassin

It will filter all mail through SA, and SA will tag the spam messages
for you.  After it you can use

 :0
 * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes
 caughtspam/

to stuff all flagged spam into the "caughtspam" folder.

-D

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How can I go further?

[Squirrel]

Dear All,
I have installed the minimal Debian Mips OS and also want to install
the compiler environment include the gcc ,ld,binutil and so on.Can you
give me a hand?




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Tuning for processor architecture

[Michael D. Crawford]

I am interested in making special builds of some of my debian packages in order 
to tune them for the CPU of the specific machines they will be installed on.  I 
would appreciate any input you have on the best way to pursue this, as well as 
which packages I should tune to get the most benefit.


I believe debian x86 is compiled for 386, and debian powerpc is compiled to run 
on any powerpc.  On x86, I think it would be worthwhile to make Pentium II and 
Pentium III versions of some packages, tuned for the PC's I own, as well as 
PowerPC G4 versions for my Mac.  I may be getting a 100 MHz Pentium system for 
free soon, and I think it would be particularly worthwhile to tune the software 
on that machine.


I already have custom kernel compiles.  I think this helps a fair amount.

I understand Mandrake is optimized for Pentium, and I've seen posts from 
Mandrake users that say that this makes a great deal of difference.


I heard gcc version 3 has better processor-specific optimization, but it has 
had a lot of bugs.  But I understand that the 3.1 release may be of production 
quality, though I have not tried it myself.  I would be interested to know what 
people think.


Unfortunately the packages that I think would yield the most benefit from 
special compiles can be scary to build and replace.


I think that a processor-specific glibc would give a good performance benefit 
to all my programs, but doing the wrong thing when upgrading it makes one's 
machine just stop working, and then one also can't reboot.  It would be 
necessary to fix it while booted off an emergency disk, which I've actually had 
to do when I tried to update my Slackware laptop when trying to install 
packages from slackware-current on a machine that had an incompatible glibc.


However I have seen glibc upgraded several times while doing updates.  Can I do 
a manual update of glibc on a running machine using the debian package tools 
without any problems?


An issue with building any libraries is that I would probably not want to have 
processor-tuned builds for the static versions, to keep me from sending other 
people programs that won't execute on their machines (or that execute very 
poorly).  One doesn't normally use much static linking anymore but static 
versions of most libraries are usually available in case you want them.


Also, how would I be able to prevent the automatic upgrades of the packages I 
have tuned?  Maybe I can use apt's pin preferences for this.  What I would need 
to track instead would be upgrades to the sources, and then I would need to 
rebuild.


The other packages I would consider tuning would be the XFree86 server and the 
X libraries, the Gnome libraries, and Mozilla and the libraries it depends on, 
the netatalk and samba fileservers, and maybe Evolution.  I have built mozilla 
and xfree86 before, and it's a fair amount of work.  A mozilla build requires a 
gigabyte of free disk space - when I built mozilla on my laptop I had to rush 
around madly deleting unneeded files to keep the build going.


I think it would be really cool if Debian made processor-optimized builds of at 
least the libraries available.  I know that this would increase the developer's 
workload.  Maybe there would be some way that apt could be modified to enable 
processor-specific versions to be installed automatically if they are available.


This would be a good opportunity for a commercial debian distributor, to offer 
debian CD's where everything is processor optimized.  Vendors who offered tuned 
software like this might make better sales, especially if they continued to 
maintain their distributions as debian is upgraded.


It would be worthwhile for some libraries to include processor-specific 
optimizations in the source code, guarded by #ifdefs.  You can do some of these 
in C without resorting to assembly code, or you can use small libraries written 
in assembly to give you access to the instructions you need.  For example, I 
have seen that the library source code that comes with the Metrowerks 
CodeWarrior IDE has a lot of source that is specific to the PowerPC G4.


To some extent it can even be worthwhile to build optimizations for several 
platforms and choose which one to use at runtime, by checking which 
microprocessor a library is executing on.  One trick is for a shared library to 
consist mostly of stubs that call through to the real library, and then it 
dynamically loads the best library for the processor at program startup.


Mike
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Where to ask: Can procmail modify a header field? Add a header field?

[Daniel Barclay]

Can someone point me to a good mailing list for asking the following 
question?


Can procmail modify a message header field (e.g., prepend "spam:" to
the subject field value)?  Can it add a header field?

(The procmailrc manual page leaves quite a bit to be desired.)

I can filter mail via .forward in my shell account on my ISP's machine, 
and then download via POP using Netscape.  I'd like to use .procmail to
detect suspected spam and then put something in the message header that
I can use in Netscape (4.x) filters to filter the messages.


Thanks,
Daniel
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Re: onshore-timesheet

[Eric G. Miller]

On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 09:55:02PM -0400, Harland Christofferson wrote:
> is anyone successfully using this package? i have loaded it but get the error:
> 
> Sorry, I cannot complete your request:
> 
>  Cannot connect to backend: localhost:5432:timesheet: no connection to 
> the server 
Haven't used it, but I recognize the port as being the same as
PostgreSQL.  So, does this package require PostgreSQL, and if so, is it
running and listening/accepting TCP/IP connections?
 

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Re: Problem with syslog/kernel messages

[Oki DZ]

On 2002.05.28 16:51 Martin Hermanowski wrote:

I got a problem with syslog on Woody. I have several machines on which
kernel messages do *not* get logged to syslog.

In the syslog.conf, the first line is:
| *.* -/var/log/syslog


I don't think that you need the vertical bar ("|"). 

`dmesg' does show the kernel messages, but I can't find them in
/var/log/syslog...


Try to remove the dash, so that every log writes will be sync'ed (ie: 
written to the disk).


Oki


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onshore-timesheet

[Harland Christofferson]

is anyone using this successfully? i installed it, set it up, and tried to log 
in as
admin. I receive the folloing error:

Sorry, I cannot complete your request:

 Cannot connect to backend: localhost:5432:timesheet: no connection to the 
server 

If you feel that this is a bug, please report it. 

suggestions appreciated.


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Re: upgrading from stable to woody

[Oki DZ]

On 2002.05.29 05:59 Robert Funnell wrote:

I'm also confused about kernels. I think I read that there was a
choice of kernel versions to use with woody. I guess there's no
problem with upgrading to woody using the same old kernel? I assume
that dselect doesn't do kernels.


Usually, you wouldn't have problems using the same kernel on upgraded 
systems.
Sometimes, you would have problems using newer kernel on current or 
upgraded systems.


Oki


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Re: Mac OS X package

[Michael D. Crawford]

Most of the subscribers to debian-powerpc are Mac users, so maybe you should 
ask there.


I'm not so happy with what I've experienced with OS X installers so far, 
although maybe it's because the writer of the installer scripts didn't make the 
effort to make them flexible.


For example, the installer for the OS X developer documentation only gives you 
the option to install everything, rather than allowing you to select doc for 
the different APIs (java, cocoa, carbon, device drivers - the whole thing is 
installed), and it can only be installed on the root filesystem.


This was a problem for me because the documentation is 500 megabytes, and I 
don't have that much room on my startup disk (it's a 6 year old 8500 that I 
installed OS X on with XPostFacto).  I have lots of room on my linux netatalk 
server, but the installer doesn't give the option of installing to a server volume.


One can do scary things with the "pax" command to install to alternative 
locations, but I haven't tried that yet.


I suspect there are other problems as well.

On the other hand, my Mac checks for updates each time it starts up, and there 
is a nice UI for obtaining them.  It would be nice if there were a way that 
this version checker could be told to check for updates from alternate sources. 
 Maybe there is, I don't know.


One of the goals of the GNU Darwin project is a better package system for OS X. 
 They also provide OS X binaries for a great many Free Software programs.  You 
can download a 650 MB installer .iso image, or you can buy a CD from a vendor:


http://gnu-darwin.sourceforge.net/

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woody header files ???

[Michael D. Schleif]

As you may know, I built a new system last weekend, installing enough
potato to boot and dist-upgrade to woody.

Now, after apt-get'ing a bunch of stuff, I need to compile; but, I seem
to be lacking enough header files.

What am I missing?  Which package?

# ls -al `find /usr/ | grep README.headers`
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   35 May 26 12:33
/usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.headers ->
../../kernel-package/README.headers
-rw-r--r--1 root root 8208 Jul 14  1998
/usr/share/doc/kernel-source-2.2.20/README.headers.gz
-rw-r--r--1 root root 8208 Jul 14  1998
/usr/share/doc/kernel-source-2.4.18/README.headers.gz
-rw-r--r--1 root root22156 Jul 14  1998
/usr/share/kernel-package/README.headers

I have read these; but, I am confused regarding *whence* come these
headers that I am missing?


# uname -a
Linux Bragi 2.4.18-686 #1 Sun Apr 14 11:32:47 EST 2002 i686 unknown

# find /usr/include | grep '\(asm\|linux\)$'
< null >

# dpkg -l | grep header
ii  kernel-headers 2.2.20-5   Header files related to Linux kernel
version
ii  kernel-headers 2.4.18-5   Linux kernel headers 2.4.18 on
PPro/Celeron/


What do you think?

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Re: Mac OS X package

[John S. J. Anderson]

Oki DZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I believe that there are Debian users who are also Mac users. Question
> is, compared to Debian packaging system, is it Mac's any better...?

No.

There is port of dpkg/apt to Mac OS X -- see 

HTH,
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Re: Keyboard Crashing

[Oki DZ]

On 2002.05.28 23:10 Hereward Cooper wrote:

Anyone else had keyboard just randomly stop working?


The latest thing happened to me was that the plain<->PS2 keyboard 
converter stopped working; a little nudge on it fixed things.


Oki


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onshore-timesheet

[Harland Christofferson]

is anyone successfully using this package? i have loaded it but get the error:

Sorry, I cannot complete your request:

 Cannot connect to backend: localhost:5432:timesheet: no connection to the 
server 

If you feel that this is a bug, please report it. 


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Mac OS X package

[Oki DZ]

Hi,

I believe that there are Debian users who are also Mac users. Question 
is, compared to Debian packaging system, is it Mac's any better...?


Oki


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Balsa

[Oki DZ]

Hi,

At times, when I have messages with attachments, Balsa prints out the 
following:
** WARNING **: Cannot find expected file 
"gnome-multipart-alternative.png" (spliced with "pixmaps") with no 
extra prefixes


Balsa is 1.2.4, Debian Sid.

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Re: problem with alsa and my via686a card...

[Sridhar M.A.]

On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 04:53:19PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   > 
   > # ALSA portion
   > alias char-major-116 snd
   > alias snd-card-0 snd-via686a
   > # OSS/Free portion
   > alias char-major-14 soundcore
   > alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
   > 
Here is a simple method that I use to get alsa working on my systems:

  1. Put all these in a file, say sound, and move it over to /etc/modutils.
 Next time the system boots, it is automatically appended to
 /etc/modules.conf. 

  2. If you also have installed alsa-base and alsa-utils,
 there will be an appropriate entry /etc/init.d/alsa. This would take
 care of starting the sound server at bootup. 
 
  3. Use amixer to unmute the channels and set the volume levels. After 
 you are comfortable with the levels, use alsactl to store the
 settings. Then on you do not need to woory about it.

  4. If the alsamixer (cli) is not your cup of tea, use gamix.

Here is what I have as /etc/modutils/sound:

alias char-major-116 snd
alias snd-card-0 snd-ymfpci
options snd-ymfpci snd_index=0 snd_id="Yamaha-YMF724"
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0

alias char-major-14 soundcore
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss

options snd snd_major=116 snd_cards_limit=1

Change the ymf entries to your card definitions. 
   
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Re: sort

[Steve Juranich]

> > I haven't debugged/tested this.  YMMV.
> 
> That'll work, but imagine the performance when there are, say,
> 75,000 lines, each 50 bytes...

Hence the caveat.

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Re: sort

[Ron Johnson]

On Tue, 2002-05-28 at 14:25, Steve Juranich wrote:
> Here's a chunk of Python code that should do the trick.
> 
> lines = open(filename).readlines()
> 
> line_dict = {}
> for line in lines:
>   if line not in line_dict.keys():
>   print line
>   line_dict[line] = 1
> 
> I haven't debugged/tested this.  YMMV.

That'll work, but imagine the performance when there are, say,
75,000 lines, each 50 bytes...

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question

[Ari Kay]

I downloaded xmakemol and it has the form *.deb.  I would like to know how 
to run the file.  I am currently working with Red Hat 7.2.




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Re: woody config file

[Joris]

>> If I want to compile a kernel but want to us my current configuration
>> as a guide is that possible?
> Copy an existing config into $(source-tree)/.config, where
> $(source-tree) is the top-level directory of the unpacked kernel source,
> and 'make menuconfig' or whatever you normally do.

Colin gave the right answer to your question, but IMHO it's not the best
way to compile your own kernel.

First of all, woody ships with a 2.2.xx kernel. Perfect for installation
and recovery, but if you're going to build a custom kernel you'll want to
fine-tune things. In that case I would recommend you to go for the latest
debianized kernel-source (2.4.18 in testing).

There is another reason not to start from the configuration of the
installation kernels. Those kernels were intended to run on as many pieces
of hardware as possible, and I presume you want to bake one especially for
your machine. It may be better not to base a kernel built for efficiency
on one built for compatibility.

If you go for a 2.4.xx kernel, beware of this common mistake: if you don't
have multiple processors, be sure to turn off the support for it
(CONFIG_SMP, "Processor type and features" -> "Symmetric multi-processing
support") as it will prevent apm from working.

I wonder why it is enabled by default. The documentation for this option
says clearly:
* 'If you have a system with only one CPU, like most personal computers,
say N'
* 'If you say Y here, the kernel will run on many, but not all,
singleprocessor machines. On a singleprocessor machine, the kernel will
run faster if you say N here.'
* 'The "Advanced Power Management" code will be disabled if you say Y
here.'
* 'If you don't know what to do here, say N.'

Could I file this as a bug report? Or is there a good reason for this
choice? IMHO, changing it would prevent many complaints about apm-not-
working-anymore-after-baking-custom-kernel. Or is is too small a detail
to disturb the maintainer with?

(sorry for the large post)
Just my 2 cents,

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safe_mysqld hangs ssh connection every time. (woody)

[justin cunningham]

Why does this happen?  If I start mysql /etc/init.d/mysql start this is
not a problem though safe_mysqld --with or without options it hangs.  

Connecting via ssh terminal emulation is linux.

-justin


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Re: ATI Radeon 7000

[Petro]

On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 08:28:45AM -0600, user list wrote:
> Reading with mutt makes me less likely to do the cut and paste. Anyway,
> if the link to which you refer is

Funny,  works for me. 

apt-get install urlview. 

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Re: PHP4 setup problems

[Joris]

> It means that the kernel didn't know how to execute that file. Perhaps
> you need '#! /usr/bin/php4' as the first line of the PHP script?

Or add the following lines to /etc/apache/httpd.conf, preferably between
 and its ending tag
 
AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps


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Re: problems with cdr and cdrom: possibly related to upgrade

[Cheryl Homiak]

Hi Joachim and all.
first of all, I think now that it is a hardware problem (loose cable, failing
cdrom or something) rather than something in unstable, though i'm not absolutely
sure.
Secondly, though, I've been using this cd setup for over a month with no
problems and with support built into the kernel, so it's definitely not a
problem with the modules being loaded.
But thanks for trying to help.

Cheryl


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Re: IMP3,horde2, Postgresql from sid

[Mike Egglestone]

Sweet,

I will try again!

Mike

On Tue, 2002-05-28 at 07:50, Mike Egglestone wrote:
> Hi Mark,
> Did you install postgres and horde2 from sid?
> 
> mike

Yes, it was sid. I think I understand your problem now, though.

I am betting that your hosts file does not say

127.0.0.1 localhost hostname

but rather

127.0.0.1 localhost
your.network.ip.address hostname

This is fine. This is also why using anything but localhost causes
failure installing horde. Because as Oliver pointed out, postgres only
listens on 127.0.0.1 by default, not whatever your network ip address
is.

So, your whole problem is likely an imp configuration issue. assuming
that you now have a database named horde2, you should be set. (su to
root, then su postgres, run psql horde2, and do a \d to get a table
listing)

>From that point out, it is just a matter of configuring horde/imp
properly for database use.

I got this going by putting
host all 127.0.0.1 255.0.0.0   trust

in my pg_hba.conf



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Problem with logging in (Constant password change)

[Patrick Klee]

Hi all,
I have a PPC, but it's pretty much the same on both since I have an x86
box as well.  N E Hoo, here's the problem...

I login to the system, and it says I need too create a new password.  This
is for root AND user!  And it also happens everytime I login, it says I need
to make a new password.

The system is an iMac with Debian Potato.  I did a fresh install because had
to repartition my drives for 2 other OSes.

How do I fix this, because I had a copy of YDL 2.1 lying around, and I
installed it, but it does the same thing so I went back to debian.

I am very sure that I did what I do normally when I install, I just DO NOT
KNOW.

Thanks.

Patrick


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Re: how to confirm mod_perl is functioning with apache? to run mason

[Petro]

On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 09:17:12PM -0400, Ian D. Stewart wrote:
> On 2002.05.23 20:42 justin cunningham wrote:
> >hey list, I wanted to check out mason which requires mod_perl but it's
> >not show as a loadable module in /etc/apache/httpd.conf  I just
> >installed libapache-mod-perl but wasn't prompted to load mod_perl.c as
> >a
> >loadable module like say, php4.  how do I confirm it is properly
> >configured?
> Hey Justin,
> I'm in pretty much the same boat (trying to test mod_perl 
> installation/configuration IOT use HTML::Mason).  Have you heard 
> anything back from anybody?
> I'm currently going through the mod_perl guide 
> (http://perl.apache.org/guide).  Will let you know if I find anything 
> useful.

I don't use mod_perl myself, but some observations:

(1) In woody, libapache-mod-perl actually installs perl_module--look
in /usr/lib/apache/1.3/400mod_perl.info, you get:

LoadModule: perl_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_perl.so
Directives:
 PerlHandler
 PerlRequire
 PerlModule
 
Handles:
 perl-script
Description: If you can do it with perl, you can do it with Apache.

Which may, or may not be the same thing as mod_perl. 

Also there is a package apache-perl (also in woody) that has mod_perl
(perl_module?) statically compiled in.

apache -l will tell you what modules are currently compiled in, and the
loadModule directives show what is currently being loaded. 

When I installed libapache-mod-perl, I had to add the LoadModule
directive by hand.



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Re: bringing up multiple pc-card interfaces

[Dave Price]

On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 01:17:43PM -0400, Loren Jordan wrote:
> 
> in your /etc/network/interfaces remove the "auto eth0" and "auto eth1" 
> lines.  When your pcmcia services start and the drivers for the cards are 
> brought online (modules loaded, or already built in) the pcmcia networking 
> executes a specific "ifup eth0" ,etc...
> 
Thanks for the great info.  One last question haunts me... Is there a
way to specify which interface is eth0, and which eth1, etc?

aloha,
dave


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Re: upgrading from stable to woody

[Robert Funnell]

On Tue, 28 May 2002, Adam C Powell IV wrote:

> >edit /etc/apt/sources.list to point to woody, and do apt-get
> >dist-upgrade
> >
> This usually works great, but for an upgrade of this magnitude (between
> releases), I'd strongly recommend dselect or another tool with
> interactive dependency negotiation.  It's really helpful to be able to
> choose between packages providing dependencies, and to see what's
> Recommended and Suggested, even though dselect is a pain about
> Recommends... but that's another matter. :-)

I was going to ask if one could do this using dselect rather than
apt-get dist-upgrade, but concluded that it was a dumb question and
that the answer was obviously 'no'. I guess I was wrong. Do you have
to do anything special in dselect, or it's just a straight Upgrade?

When woody becomes stable, we'll just set our sources.list back to
stable and carry on?

I'm also confused about kernels. I think I read that there was a
choice of kernel versions to use with woody. I guess there's no
problem with upgrading to woody using the same old kernel? I assume
that dselect doesn't do kernels.

Sorry if I'm asking dumb questions after all :-)

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Re: problem with alsa and my via686a card...

[Kent West]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

ok, I've installed ALSA and attempted to run through it, but where I get really
confused is where you have to edit modules.conf. I guess I'm a bit intimidated
by the lines that say "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE!" I wrote in the following lines:

# ALSA portion
alias char-major-116 snd
alias snd-card-0 snd-via686a
# OSS/Free portion
alias char-major-14 soundcore
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0



I've never quite gotten the hang of modules, but here's my understanding.

On other distros, you'd edit /etc/modules.conf. On Debian, you edit 
files in /etc/modules, then run "update-modules" to update 
/etc/modules.conf (you may also need to run "depmod" to let the system 
calculate which modules are dependent on which other modules and the 
order they need to load). In this manner, Debian's apt automation 
doesn't clobber what you manually put in the modules.conf file.


So instead of putting these lines in /etc/modules.conf, put them in 
/etc/modutils/alias. Then run "update-modules". You can then look in 
/etc/modules.conf to see that these lines actually made it over.


If you do an "ls -l /dev/", you'll see *lots* of files fly by. In the 
two columns between the group column and the date column you'll see some 
numbers, like 116,3 or 14,8. These are the major and minor numbers of 
the device. The ALSA sound device expects to have a major number of 116. 
So I believe what is happening in the lines added to /etc/modules.conf 
is that a "nickname" is being established for the character device 
(first column in above listing starts with "c" - "b" for block devices 
like hard drives, etc) with a major number of 116. This "nickname" is 
"snd", so that when the system refers to "snd", it's really referring to 
the character device with a major number of 116.


The character device with a major number of 14 is nicknamed "soundcore", 
and is apparently how the OSS emulation of ALSA finds its sound device.


Another piece that ALSA needs to find is the "snd-card-0" (first sound 
card in the system), which is nicknamed "snd-via686a".


After getting these lines into /etc/modules.conf, you can then use the 
command "modprobe snd-via686a". Before doing so, do an "lsmod" to see 
what modules are currently listed. After doing the modprobe command, do 
"lsmod" again to see that not only did the snd-via686a module load, it 
loaded other modules that it's dependent on (becuase the "depmod" 
command earlier calculated those dependencies).



I may have a world of misunderstanding in this explanation, but I 
believe it's approximately correct. List members, please feel free to 
correct any mistakes.


Kent



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Re: 'debian' submenus have disappeared from my KDE menu

[Joachim Fahnenmueller]

Maybe you only have to run update-menus (as root?) to restore your menu 
structure.

Regards, Joachim

On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 02:18:04AM +0200, I.J.W. Wever wrote:
> This morning I learned the hard way why one should alias 'rm' to 'rm -i'.
> Everything is allright now, except for one tiny thing: every major topic
> in the KDE menu used to hold a 'debian' submenu, where all installed
> applications, not directly associated with KDE could be selected.
> Those submenus have disappeared after the re-install and I can't find a way to
> return them (apart from adding every program by hand to self-made 'debian'
> submenus ;)). I found that structure quite convenient, so I wonder if anyone
> on this list might know how to return them.

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Re: Serious "Bug" in most major Linux distros.

[Petro]

On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 12:32:02AM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Wed, May 22, 2002, Petro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 03:16:57AM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > > on Tue, May 21, 2002, Petro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > > Is this the first time someone has brought this up? 
> > > Puhleaze:
> > There's a bunch of people here acting like they've never heard of
> > the idea, and the only somewhat reasonable excuse I've heard for not
> > doing it is "It's a lot of work", which lead me to believe it  hadn't
> > been discussed here. 
> http://www.google.com/search?q=debian+statically+linked+root+shell
> > So it has been brought up before, over 2 years ago, and it's still
> > wrong? 
> The point was that the answer to your question ("Is this the first...")
> is readily available from the usual place.  Your assignment is to read
> the earlier posts and either:

There are over 100 links, many of them redundant, with the link you
provided. 

The vast majority of them are redundant, or do have no mention of
*why* such a bad decision was made. 

The one that does--which does happen to be the first on the list,
shows a lot of navel gazing, short sightedness, and a general
lack of will to actually listen to people who have an idea about how
reliable, robust systems can be designed that doesn't involve fancy
new widgets.

>   - Formulate a previously unaddressed reason root should have a
> statically linked shell, rather than pollute the list with largely
> irrelevent dialog.

There is no reason to "formulate a previously unaddressed reason",
when the previous reasons are perfectly adequate, and have not been
properly addressed. 

As to your "pollute the list" comment, quite frankly it is something
I, and by *the first link* on that Google query you posted, several
other working Sysadmins, think is a very vaild question.

My first post on this was as to *why* such a basic thing isn't being
done. After all, where does /sbin get it's name? Well, /bin is
binaries. /sbin is *static* binaries. Of which there are...one. 

All I asked was why. 

The answers I recieved tended to indicate a lack of previous
investigation into the subject, which caused my query as to whether
this had been discussed previously. 

>   - Understand why the current alternative(s) are sufficient.

They aren't. They are close, and can be made proper with a little
work. Which describes about 80% of linux (which is better than a lot
of OSs, even other Unixes.). 

>   - Summarize findings to list and quietly exit the topic.

Summary: Sash should be installed by default in /sbin/sash and as
default should be the root users shell. It adds about 610k to a
default install and has little or no downside in a properly set up
environment. 

Yes, there should be a way *not* to install it, for those who are
experienced and understand fully the ramifications of this decision. 

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Re: IMP3,horde2, Postgresql from sid

[Roach, Mark R.]

On Tue, 2002-05-28 at 07:50, Mike Egglestone wrote:
> Hi Mark,
> Did you install postgres and horde2 from sid?
> 
> mike

Yes, it was sid. I think I understand your problem now, though.

I am betting that your hosts file does not say

127.0.0.1 localhost hostname

but rather

127.0.0.1 localhost
your.network.ip.address hostname

This is fine. This is also why using anything but localhost causes
failure installing horde. Because as Oliver pointed out, postgres only
listens on 127.0.0.1 by default, not whatever your network ip address
is.

So, your whole problem is likely an imp configuration issue. assuming
that you now have a database named horde2, you should be set. (su to
root, then su postgres, run psql horde2, and do a \d to get a table
listing)

>From that point out, it is just a matter of configuring horde/imp
properly for database use.

I got this going by putting
host all 127.0.0.1 255.0.0.0   trust

in my pg_hba.conf



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jdk 1.4.0 ???

[Michael D. Schleif]

I want to run opennms on my woody.

Months ago, I was told that I needed tomcat4.  Found it last weekend and
installed it.

Then, opennms is available for mdk and rpm; so, I hunted around and
found alien.  Thanks, Colin.

opennms wants to start; but, now, it tells me that I need jdk 1.4.0.

Where can I find this deb?

What do you think?

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Re: debian x11/xfree86 howto ???

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

> 
> What is the best all-round resource that explains the relationships
> between all of those files?  Is there some howto that explains the
> system as a whole -- *not* the 50,000 foot level of how pretty
> everything is -- rather, a system administrator's guide to tell me: if
> you want to do this goto that file and its manpage, &c.  How about a
> website?  Book?
> 

Hit the local bookstore, I have seen several X guides published in the last
year.

The Debian setup is fairly nice and well commented, you can just read each of
the files in /etc/X11 (which is all you should be tweaking).


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debian x11/xfree86 howto ???

[Michael D. Schleif]

First, let it be known that I've been a cli guy for too many years. 
I've been running various flavors of linux since 1.x days.  Mostly,
though, I'd just telnet or ssh in and do what I need via cli.

Occasionally, I'd take a stab at xfree86 and I could get a fairly nice
gui; but, I always want to tweak it more.  X11 is a very complex system
with alot of intimidating files.  Yes, manpages help; but, it is always
intimidating to hunt through so many files and manpages to do some small
thing.

I just setup a minimal potato and dist-upgrade'd to woody last weekend. 
Wow!  Things are so much simpler to install and prettier out of the
`box'!  Nevertheless, I'm back to wanting to tweak and tweak.

What is the best all-round resource that explains the relationships
between all of those files?  Is there some howto that explains the
system as a whole -- *not* the 50,000 foot level of how pretty
everything is -- rather, a system administrator's guide to tell me: if
you want to do this goto that file and its manpage, &c.  How about a
website?  Book?

What do you think?

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Re: IMP3,horde2, Postgresql from sid

[Oliver Elphick]

On Tue, 2002-05-28 at 13:48, Mike Egglestone wrote:
> Hi,
> I tried editing the pg_hba.conf file.
> There were only 3 unpounded lines.
> The first 2 pointed to localhost and the last one pointed to all hosts.
> but, the last line had reject, so I changed it to trust
> and I still couldn't get horde2 to configure postgres.

Not very secure.  It would be better to add a line, *before* the reject
line, to allow access to a specific host.  Again, "ident sameuser" is
more secure than "trust".

> I haven't tried the telnet  localhost 5432
> but I shouldn't I try this as well:   ?
> telnet hostname 5432
> 
> .. where hostname points to the real IP address of my server via /etc/hosts 

In the context of pg_hba.conf, hostname is the host whose client is
requesting service.  That telnet command would attempt to connect to a
server on that host, which is not what you want, though it will make a
connection.  However, telnet will always succeed in connecting, if there
is a postmaster running; the authorisation protocol happens after
connection and is not suited to manual execution.  If you can start psql
on the client, just do

psql --host your_postgresql_server --dbname template1

which will test the TCP/IP connection and authorisation for you.  If the
client is the same machine, calling it by its name rather than localhost
will use the authorisation for the IP address corresponding to that name
rather than for 127.0.0.1.

If that does not show the error, please show me all the current
uncommented lines in pg_hba.conf.  You should also look in the horde's
postinst script (/var/lib/dpkg/info/horde.postinst, I suppose) to see
what it is trying to do.  Edit that script to add "set -x" at line 2,
which will display each line as it is executed.  This will show the
command that is failing.  Try to run that command by hand, turning on
any available verbosity or debugging.

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Re: Package Configures inittab

[Jerome Acks Jr]

On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 03:00:46PM -0600, tom r wrote:
> Eric,
> 
> Thanks for the response.  I ran `dpkg-reconfigure sysvinit' but it did not 
> bring up the screen to request an addition to inittab, so I don't think 
> sysvinit is the one.  Besides, when I installed debian on a previous laptop, 
> the question never appeared and I'm sure sysvinit is common to both.  So it 
> has to be a package that I installed on the one but not the other.  I guessed 
> it to be ppp but running `dpkg-reconfigure ppp' doesn't bring the screen up 
> either.
> 
> Any other ideas?

If you can remember the question, you may be able to search
/var/cache/debconf/templates.dat and find the associated  package. 
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Re: Dual Boot with XP

[Noah Meyerhans]

On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 10:17:23PM +0100, Keith O'Connell wrote:
> I am surprised - I was under the impression that XP was hostile to
> Linux and you had to be sneaky to get it to work. So, am I right then;
> 
>   1: install XP to hda1
>   2: install Debian to hdb1-7
>   3: install lilo to hda
>   4: edit lilo.conf as above
>   5: run lilo
>   6: reboot and select as appropriate
> 
> Is the right things in the right order?

Yes, that worked fine for me.  I have installed such a setup on 3
separate drives (though all in the same machine; I've had bad luck with
drives on that poor box).

There was a story recently on newsforge.org about problems with getting
XP and Linux to share a drive, but I've seen none of them.  I think part
of their problem was that they were using Compaq's "system recovery" CD,
which does much more than just install WinXP (e.g. it restores Compaq's
original partition table).  But if you're installing from a standard
Microsoft XP CD, I expect you'll be just fine.

noah

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Re: Dual Boot with XP

[Steve Juranich]

>   1: install XP to hda1
>   2: install Debian to hdb1-7
>   3: install lilo to hda
>   4: edit lilo.conf as above
>   5: run lilo
>   6: reboot and select as appropriate
> 
> Is the right things in the right order?

That's the order I'd recommend.  That's what I did with my current box.  Nicos 
was right in saying that M$ writes its own boot sector whether you want it to 
or not.  So the easiest way to install the dual boot machine without having to 
jump through a bunch of hoops when it comes time to install the boot loader is 
to just install M$ first, then install the OS that you'll actually *use*. ;)


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problem with alsa and my via686a card...

[alo]

ok, I've installed ALSA and attempted to run through it, but where I get really
confused is where you have to edit modules.conf. I guess I'm a bit intimidated
by the lines that say "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE!" I wrote in the following lines:

# ALSA portion
alias char-major-116 snd
alias snd-card-0 snd-via686a
# OSS/Free portion
alias char-major-14 soundcore
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0

when I look up the module stated from te install file, I see:

snd_mpu_port - 0x300,0x310,0x320,0x330, otherwise obtain BIOS setup
snd_ac97_clock
 - AC'97 codec clock base (default 48000Hz)

Truthfully, this could all be written in Swahili and I wouldn't know the
difference.I'm totally clueless on what to write in the file, and where to put
the things I wrote. Can someone please help?

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Re: Dual Boot with XP

[Nicos Gollan]

On Tuesday 28 May 2002 23:17, Keith O'Connell wrote:

> I am surprised - I was under the impression that XP was hostile to
> Linux and you had to be sneaky to get it to work. So, am I right
> then;
>
>   1: install XP to hda1
>   2: install Debian to hdb1-7
>   3: install lilo to hda
>   4: edit lilo.conf as above
>   5: run lilo
>   6: reboot and select as appropriate
>
> Is the right things in the right order?

It doesn't really matter in which order you install XP and Linux. The 
main problem however is that Windoze tends to overwrite the boot sector 
with its own, so you need a way to install any boot manager that can 
boot Linux. I'm using mtboot, a little freeware program I found 
somewhere (don't ask me where, I forgot). It provides a nice menu, can 
hide partitions and even boot ROM images. The downside is that you need 
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Re: IMP3,horde2, Postgresql from sid

[Mike Egglestone]

Hi Mark,
Did you install postgres and horde2 from sid?

mike



On Tue, 2002-05-28 at 05:03, Mike Egglestone wrote:
> > 
> > By default postgres only listens on a unix socket. At the bottom of the
> > pg_hba.conf file it tells you that you can set postmaster to allow
> > tcp/ip access by putting 
> > 
> > tcpip_socket = 1
> > 
> > in your /etc/postgresql/postgresql.conf
> > 
> 
> Hi,
> Yes, this was already set by the default.
> Could there be any other areas I may have missed?
> 
> Mike

I just did an install of postgres and horde2 and it worked fine with all
defaults. Is postmaster running? Does a netstat show you listening on
port 5432? Can you "telnet localhost 5432"? Any info from postgres' log
file(turn on debugging)? 

The easiest thing might just be to apt-get remove --purge both postgres
and horde2 and start over.


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php session_start problems & squirrelmail

[Thomas R. Shemanske]

Squirrelmail is installed on several machines in our department, but it
is used infrequently.  The last time I used it was in March when it
worked fine; a few days ago, I was unable to login on any installation.
The imap setup is fine.

One setup is sid with
squirrelmail   1.2.6-1
apache 1.3.24-3
php4   4.2.1-2
uw-imapd-ssl   2001adebian-6

while the others are woody based:
squirrelmail  1.2.5-1
apache1.3.24-3
php4  4.1.2-4
uw-imapd-ssl  2001adebian-6

The symptoms are the same on all systems.

The login page appears, enter login data and submit.

The data is passed to redirect.php.  Below is a small excerpt from the
(near) beginning of the file

It gets passed the session_set_cookie_params (0, $base_uri);
but dies at the session_start(); invocation.

Any ideas?

Thanks

Tom


/* Excerpt from src/redirect.php */
$base_uri = sqm_baseuri();

header('Pragma: no-cache');
$location = get_location();


session_set_cookie_params (0, $base_uri);
logout_error( _("I am here") ); /* crude debugging */
session_start();




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Re: IMP3,horde2, Postgresql from sid

[Mike Egglestone]

Hi,
I tried editing the pg_hba.conf file.
There were only 3 unpounded lines.
The first 2 pointed to localhost and the last one pointed to all hosts.
but, the last line had reject, so I changed it to trust
and I still couldn't get horde2 to configure postgres.

I haven't tried the telnet  localhost 5432
but I shouldn't I try this as well:   ?
telnet hostname 5432

.. where hostname points to the real IP address of my server via /etc/hosts 
?

Thanks
Mike





Quoting Oliver Elphick :

> On Tue, 2002-05-28 at 11:03, Mike Egglestone wrote:
> > > 
> > > By default postgres only listens on a unix socket. At the bottom of
> the
> > > pg_hba.conf file it tells you that you can set postmaster to allow
> > > tcp/ip access by putting 
> > > 
> > > tcpip_socket = 1
> > > 
> > > in your /etc/postgresql/postgresql.conf
> > > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > Yes, this was already set by the default.
> > Could there be any other areas I may have missed?
> 
> The default access controls (in /etc/postgresql/pg_hba.conf) only allow
> TCP/IP access to localhost;  do you need to enable access from some
> other hosts?  (You say it works OK with localhost, which suggest that
> this may be the problem.)
> 
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Re: upgrading from stable to woody

[Adam C Powell IV]

Falk Hueffner wrote:


"Ted Goodridge, Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


I know this has been asked before, but what are , in general terms, the
way of upgrading an entire system to woody?  I have to install stable
first (on an alpha...due to woody install glitches), 


Hmm, what's wrong with the woody installation?


and need help finding documentation on how to do it.


edit /etc/apt/sources.list to point to woody, and do apt-get
dist-upgrade

This usually works great, but for an upgrade of this magnitude (between 
releases), I'd strongly recommend dselect or another tool with 
interactive dependency negotiation.  It's really helpful to be able to 
choose between packages providing dependencies, and to see what's 
Recommended and Suggested, even though dselect is a pain about 
Recommends... but that's another matter. :-)


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Re: User is not allowed to connect to X

[Raffaele Sandrini]

On Tuesday 28 May 2002 22:48, Pollywog wrote:
> On Tue, 28 May 2002 22:43:01 +0200
>
> "Raffaele Sandrini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I made a cool autologin script wich logs a user "autologin" automatically
> > in at the time we are at /dev/console (init is not completed). If i type
> > startx there then i get a message "User is not allowed to conect to X".
> > How can i allow him?
>
> Try adding the following two lines to /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config:
>
> allowed_users=console
> nice_value=-10

Thanks it worked.
changed allowed_users=console to allowed_users=anybody

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Re: Dual Boot with XP

[Gary Hennigan]

"Keith O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Steve,
> 
> > Better yet, add this to /etc/lilo.conf:
> > 
> > other=/dev/hda1
> > label=WinXP
> > 
> > This works splendidly for me.  YMMV.
> 
> I am surprised - I was under the impression that XP was hostile to
> Linux and you had to be sneaky to get it to work. So, am I right
> then;

I don't have experience with WinXP, but previous windoze versions
weren't hostile to Linux. Their installation programs on the other
hand had a tendency to just blindly repartition your disks without
looking to see if something else (other than another Win OS) was
installed on them. So they had a bad tendency to obliterate
non-Windows partitions. Once installed though I've never had any
trouble, even when doing Windoze upgrades from, for example, 98 -> 2k.

>   1: install XP to hda1
>   2: install Debian to hdb1-7
>   3: install lilo to hda
>   4: edit lilo.conf as above
>   5: run lilo
>   6: reboot and select as appropriate
> 
> Is the right things in the right order?

The sequence looks good to me. It's been a while but that's what I did
(with 98 and 2k).

Gary


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Re: IMP3,horde2, Postgresql from sid

[Oliver Elphick]

On Tue, 2002-05-28 at 11:03, Mike Egglestone wrote:
> > 
> > By default postgres only listens on a unix socket. At the bottom of the
> > pg_hba.conf file it tells you that you can set postmaster to allow
> > tcp/ip access by putting 
> > 
> > tcpip_socket = 1
> > 
> > in your /etc/postgresql/postgresql.conf
> > 
> 
> Hi,
> Yes, this was already set by the default.
> Could there be any other areas I may have missed?

The default access controls (in /etc/postgresql/pg_hba.conf) only allow
TCP/IP access to localhost;  do you need to enable access from some
other hosts?  (You say it works OK with localhost, which suggest that
this may be the problem.)

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Re: problems with cdr and cdrom: possibly related to upgrade

[Joachim Fahnenmueller]

Hi Cheryl,

I suggest to check if the right modules are loaded. You need ide-scsi and 
scsi_mod , 
additionally for mounting a cdrom device sr_mod and for cd recording sg . 
Type lsmod (as root) to check if the modules are there. If not, 
modprobe -v  . Then either the module is loaded or you get
an error message which may help.

HTH, Joachim

On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 03:45:22PM -0500, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
  ( ... )
. If I try to mount /dev/cdrom or /dev/cdrecord I get "not
> a valid block device". same thing happens if i try scd0 and scd1, sr0 and sr1,
> hdc and hdd.
> If I try cdrecord -scanbus I get "no such file or directory: cannot open scsi
> drivers" (no big surprise there). If I just try running cdrecord I also get
> something about not being able to open pg0, somewhat puzzling as I would 
> expect
> it to be opening sg0.

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Re: free86server

[Jerome Acks Jr]

On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 11:31:41AM -0300, Klaus Imgrund wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I just started fooling around with debian. The part that gives me more
> trouble than usual is the setup of the xserver.
> I upgraded from xfree3.3.6 to 4.1.0 but I am getting the same problems.
> The mouse doesn't work at all (flickers around) with xf86config. 
If you have installed gpm, set the mouse device in X to be /dev/gpmdata
and set "repeat_type=raw" in gpm.conf.

To configure X4.1, as root run "XFree86 -configure" and then tweak
the resulting configuration file. 

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Re: Dual Boot with XP

[Keith O'Connell]

Steve,

> Better yet, add this to /etc/lilo.conf:
> 
> other=/dev/hda1
>   label=WinXP
> 
> This works splendidly for me.  YMMV.

I am surprised - I was under the impression that XP was hostile to Linux and 
you had to be sneaky to get it to work. So, am I right then;

1: install XP to hda1
2: install Debian to hdb1-7
3: install lilo to hda
4: edit lilo.conf as above
5: run lilo
6: reboot and select as appropriate

Is the right things in the right order?

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Re: upgrading from stable to woody

[Rene Engelhard]

Mike Egglestone wrote:
> APT has to be the greatest thing ever.

Jes, it is.

> All you really need to do is edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file
> to point to either stable, or testing, or unstable and then 
> run 
> #apt-get update
> #apt-get dist-upgrade 
> 
> Obviously, you want woody, so you would point apt sources to "testing".
> To point the sources.list file to different sets, just replace "stable"
> with "testing"..or "unstable"  (no quotes)

No, I would recommend pointing to woody, because if woody is releades
in _very near_ future, then we'll get a new testing receiving packages
from sid, and if he forgot to change his sources.list we would slid
into the new testing.

Regards,

Rene


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Re: unresolved symbols on Woody with a RH module

[Colin Watson]

On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 03:29:02PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am running Woody with my own 2.4.18 kernel based on the 2.4.18-5 deb 
> package.  I have a supplier that has delivered a kernel module for a special 
> software modem that was developed using RH 7.2 with the default 2.4.7 kernel.
> 
> I have set CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y but when I try to insmod the module I get the 
> following-
> 
> suDriver.o: unresolved symbol boot_cpu_data_R65dda927
> suDriver.o: unresolved symbol register_chrdev_R827e2e0f
> suDriver.o:
> Hint: You are trying to load a module without a GPL compatible license
>   and it has unresolved symbols.  Contact the module supplier for
>   assistance, only they can help you.

You're going to have to contact the supplier for a module built against
a more recent kernel then ... CONFIG_MODVERSIONS can paper over some
problems, but not all of them.

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apt-get upgrade wants to d/l unstable packages

[Vincent Lefevre]

I'm using the testing distribution (i.e. woody), but when I type
"apt-get upgrade -s", it mentions unstable packages, e.g.

Inst abiword (1.0.1+cvs.2002.05.24-1 Debian:unstable) []

Why?

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Re: Dual Boot with XP

[Steve Juranich]

Better yet, add this to /etc/lilo.conf:

other=/dev/hda1
label=WinXP

This works splendidly for me.  YMMV.

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Re: authenticate from LDAP (samba PDC)

[dman]

On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 07:53:42AM +0200, Danie Roux wrote:
| On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 02:38:04PM -0500, dman wrote:
| > Now I want to make samba be the PDC for the windows machines and have
| > it authenticate against the LDAP server as well.  The docs I've read
| > seem to indicate that samba and pam don't play together that well.
| > The only solution I can think of is to periodically rebuild the
| > smbpasswd file from LDAP.
| 
| samba.idealx.org.
| 
| The samba-LDAP PDC HOWTO :-)

I hadn't found any docs you guys sent me.  Thanks!  I'll be sure and
read through them and find the best alternative.

-D

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Re: sort

[dman]

On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 03:12:50PM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
| On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 04:06:33PM -0300, O Senhor wrote:
| >   How can i delete equal lines from a file, without sort it?
| >   If i use sort -u, the command clean up the repeat lines, but sort my
| > file (ascendent). I don't want this. I need my file in original form.
| 
| It's fairly trivial to determine if adjacent lines are identical but if
| they are scattered throughout the file then it becomes much more
| difficult.

The other difficulty is figuring out which of the original locations
to keep and which to remove.  If they're all adjacent it isn't an
issue.  Have you (O Senhor) decided how that should be handled?

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Re: Package Configures inittab

[tom r]

Eric,

Thanks for the response.  I ran `dpkg-reconfigure sysvinit' but it did not 
bring up the screen to request an addition to inittab, so I don't think 
sysvinit is the one.  Besides, when I installed debian on a previous laptop, 
the question never appeared and I'm sure sysvinit is common to both.  So it 
has to be a package that I installed on the one but not the other.  I guessed 
it to be ppp but running `dpkg-reconfigure ppp' doesn't bring the screen up 
either.

Any other ideas?

Thanks.

Tom



On Tuesday 28 May 2002 14:24, you wrote:
> > "tom" == tom r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> tom> How do find which package modified (and keeps modifying)
> tom> inittab?
>
> Maybe
>
> grep inittab /var/lib/dpkg/info/*
>
> I'd guess it's sysvinit


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Dual Boot with XP

[Keith O'Connell]

Hi,

A quick question. This weekend I need to install Debian and Win XP on the same 
machine (XP on hda1 and Linux on hdb1-7). I want to know if the procedure is 
the same as it was when I last did this, with Windows NT, by creating a 
bootsect.lnx file and editing c:\boot.ini to point at the linux installation, 
or has XP made it harder to do?

Keith

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Re: User is not allowed to connect to X

[Pollywog]

On Tue, 28 May 2002 22:43:01 +0200
"Raffaele Sandrini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I made a cool autologin script wich logs a user "autologin" automatically in 
> at the time we are at /dev/console (init is not completed). If i type startx 
> there then i get a message "User is not allowed to conect to X". How can i 
> allow him? 
Try adding the following two lines to /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config:

allowed_users=console
nice_value=-10


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User is not allowed to connect to X

[Raffaele Sandrini]

Hi

I made a cool autologin script wich logs a user "autologin" automatically in 
at the time we are at /dev/console (init is not completed). If i type startx 
there then i get a message "User is not allowed to conect to X". How can i 
allow him? I'm prefectly able to do the same as root so its not because of 
the login procedure. I searched a program like xusers but did not find one 
:-)

cheers,
Raffaele
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Re: USB-CAM

[Kristian Rink]

On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 09:29:43PM +0200, Peter Holm wrote:

> Is there any tutorial of how to mount a digital camera with USB-

> I Need total guidance since i don't now anything about how to do it.

In most cases, running gphoto or gphoto2 should be what you might want
to do. For information beyond this, it would be helpful to know which
sort of camera (brand, model) you are having. Some of those probably
will work well with gphoto, others with gphoto2, and for some special
ones you will have to use even different methods of access. For you,
best would be to, first of all, check www.gphoto.net/cameras.html to see
whether your camera is actually supported. Next thing: Try to get
yourself the appropriate version (gphoto or gphoto2) onto your system,
and, if using gphoto2, you might want to get yourself gtkam as a
graphical frontend, as well (though it is not necessary, of course it
makes life a little easier with gphoto2). If you made it this far,
you're at a pretty close point to working with your camera in GNU/Linux.
For everything beyond this point, there's documentation coming with both
versions of gphoto, so you should read it - most, if not all, of what
you need to know you will find out there. 

Cheers,
Kris

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Re: sort

[Rick Pasotto]

On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 03:42:13PM -0400, Hubert Chan wrote:
> > "Rick" == Rick Pasotto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Rick> Have you looked at 'uniq'?
> 
> uniq still needs the lines to be sorted:
> 
> # man uniq
> 
> [...]
> 
> NAME
>uniq - remove duplicate lines from a *sorted* file
> 
> [...]
> 
> (emphasis mine)

Not really. It will remove adjacent duplicate lines whether or not the
file is sorted. For example, it will compress multiple blank lines to
single blank lines throughout a file. The title is wrong.

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Re: IMP3,horde2, Postgresql from sid

[Roach, Mark R.]

On Tue, 2002-05-28 at 05:03, Mike Egglestone wrote:
> > 
> > By default postgres only listens on a unix socket. At the bottom of the
> > pg_hba.conf file it tells you that you can set postmaster to allow
> > tcp/ip access by putting 
> > 
> > tcpip_socket = 1
> > 
> > in your /etc/postgresql/postgresql.conf
> > 
> 
> Hi,
> Yes, this was already set by the default.
> Could there be any other areas I may have missed?
> 
> Mike

I just did an install of postgres and horde2 and it worked fine with all
defaults. Is postmaster running? Does a netstat show you listening on
port 5432? Can you "telnet localhost 5432"? Any info from postgres' log
file(turn on debugging)? 

The easiest thing might just be to apt-get remove --purge both postgres
and horde2 and start over.


-Mark


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unresolved symbols on Woody with a RH module

[whbell]

Hello everyone,

I am running Woody with my own 2.4.18 kernel based on the 2.4.18-5 deb 
package.  I have a supplier that has delivered a kernel module for a special 
software modem that was developed using RH 7.2 with the default 2.4.7 kernel.

I have set CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y but when I try to insmod the module I get the 
following-

suDriver.o: unresolved symbol boot_cpu_data_R65dda927
suDriver.o: unresolved symbol register_chrdev_R827e2e0f
suDriver.o:
Hint: You are trying to load a module without a GPL compatible license
  and it has unresolved symbols.  Contact the module supplier for
  assistance, only they can help you.

I hate to send my entire .config file unless it is needed, just let me know if 
more is needed.

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Acoustic Coupler - configuration?

[Mr. Jan Hearthstone]

How do I configure Debian for manual dial-in using
Acoustic Koupler (on public payphones)?
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[R] problem with R-mathlib standalone (?)

[Berkan Eskikaya]

Hi,

Short story: could somebody with r-mathlib installed on their system
compile and let me know of the output of the tiny C code at the end
of this message please..

Long story: I'm trying to use pgamma() within my C application but 
I'm getting strange results. I have r-mathlib 1.4.1-1, libc6 2.2.4-5,
and gcc 2:2.95.4-9.

Example: here are 3 arbitrary pgamma() calls executed by R:

$ cat gamma.R
pgamma(98, 100, 1)
pgamma(21, 100, 5)
pgamma(2, 100, 69)


$ R -q --vanilla < gamma.R 
> pgamma(98, 100, 1)
[1] 0.4333105
> pgamma(21, 100, 5)
[1] 0.7002453
> pgamma(2, 100, 69)
[1] 0.9997046
> 

And here is what the small C program below produces with the 
same calls:

$ ./gtest
pgamma(98, 100, 1) = 0.433311
pgamma(21, 100, 5) = 0.00
pgamma(2, 100, 69) = 0.00

As you can see, pgamma(98, 100, 1) returns the same value as 
from within R, but not the other two calls.

Maybe I'm doing something extremely silly and not seeing it 
--- please have a look at the code and/or try it out; any 
suggestions greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

Berkan


Here's the C code:   

// gtest.c
// gcc -Wall -g gtest.c gtest -I/usr/lib/R/include -lRmath -lm

#include 
#define MATHLIB_STANDALONE
#include 

int main (int argc, char *argv[])
{

  double res1, res2, res3;

  res1 = pgamma(98, 100, 1, 1, 0);
  res2 = pgamma(21, 100, 5, 1, 0);
  res3 = pgamma(2, 100, 69, 1, 0);

  printf ("pgamma(98, 100, 1) = %f\n\
   pgamma(21, 100, 5) = %f\n\
   pgamma(2, 100, 69) = %f\n", res1, res2, res3);

  exit(0);
}


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Package Configures inittab

[tom r]

Hi all,

I recently installed debian on my laptop.  At one point, a package 
configuration script appeared and asked me if I wanted to add a getty for 
ttyS1 to inittab.  I foolishly answered "yes" and now want to change it, but 
I don't remember which package it was.  How do find which package modified 
(and keeps modifying) inittab?

Thanks.

Tom


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Re: sort

[Hubert Chan]

> "Rick" == Rick Pasotto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Rick> On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 04:06:33PM -0300, O Senhor wrote:
>> How can i delete equal lines from a file, without sort it?  If i use
>> sort -u, the command clean up the repeat lines, but sort my file
>> (ascendent). I don't want this. I need my file in original form.

Try this perl script:

 BEGIN 
#!/usr/bin/perl -w

my %lines;

while (<>)
  {
if (!defined $lines{$_})
  {
print;
$lines{$_} = "";
  }
  }
- END -

(lightly tested, performance may or may not suck.)

[...]

Rick> Have you looked at 'uniq'?

uniq still needs the lines to be sorted:

# man uniq

[...]

NAME
   uniq - remove duplicate lines from a *sorted* file

[...]

(emphasis mine)

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Re: sort

[Dave Thayer]

On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 04:06:33PM -0300, O Senhor wrote:
>   How can i delete equal lines from a file, without sort it?
>   If i use sort -u, the command clean up the repeat lines, but sort my
> file (ascendent). I don't want this. I need my file in original form.
> 

You might try using nl to prepend line numbers, the +POS option to
sort to skip the line numbers, uniq -s to remove the duplicate lines
while ignoring the line numbers (maybe the -u command to sort will
skip them with the +POS option, and you can skip uniq), sort again
including line numbers to restore the original order, and cut to
remove the line numbers. This could all be done in one BF pipeline.

Disclaimer: I haven't actually tried this, but it should work.

HTH

dt

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Re: upgrading from stable to woody

[Mike Egglestone]

Hi,
APT has to be the greatest thing ever.

All you really need to do is edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file
to point to either stable, or testing, or unstable and then 
run 
#apt-get update
#apt-get dist-upgrade 

Obviously, you want woody, so you would point apt sources to "testing".
To point the sources.list file to different sets, just replace "stable"
with "testing"..or "unstable"  (no quotes)

There should be some docs on debian.org somewhere. or
#man apt-get

hth,
Mike


Quoting "Ted Goodridge, Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I know this has been asked before, but what are , in general terms, the
> way of upgrading an entire system to woody?  I have to install stable
> first (on an alpha...due to woody install glitches), and need help
> finding documentation on how to do it.
> 
> Ted
> 
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RE: upgrading from stable to woody

[Ted Goodridge, Jr]

The woody alpha install images have that nasty loop bug with the base
pkg.
Ted

> -Original Message-
> From: Falk Hueffner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Falk Hueffner
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 2:28 PM
> To: Ted Goodridge, Jr
> Cc: debian-alpha@lists.debian.org; debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: upgrading from stable to woody
> 
> "Ted Goodridge, Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I know this has been asked before, but what are , in general terms,
the
> > way of upgrading an entire system to woody?  I have to install
stable
> > first (on an alpha...due to woody install glitches),
> 
> Hmm, what's wrong with the woody installation?
> 
> > and need help finding documentation on how to do it.
> 
> edit /etc/apt/sources.list to point to woody, and do apt-get
> dist-upgrade
> 
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w gives strange output on woody: (JCPU is very large 124 days?)

[Walter Tautz]

debian30:~# w
 15:24:09 up 4 days,  4:30,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
 USER TTY  FROM  LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU  WHAT
 rbutterw pts/0mfcf.math13:022:14m 124days   ? -
 wtautz   pts/1mfcf.math.uwater 13:160.00s 124days   ? -


Specifically JCPU. Note

Linux debian30.math 2.4.18-bf2.4 #1 Sam Mdr 30 00:56:06 CET 2002 i586 unknown

uptime 

# uptime
 15:25:33 up 4 days,  4:31,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00


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USB-CAM

[Peter Holm]

Is there any tutorial of how to mount a digital camera with USB-
interface.

I Need total guidance since i don't now anything about how to do it.

The only thing i grab right now is how i physichally attach the camera 
to my computer.

But which configs are neccesary and how do i retreive files. And how 
do i trigger the camera to take a shot from my application through the 
USB-port.

/peterh


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Re: upgrading from stable to woody

[Falk Hueffner]

"Ted Goodridge, Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I know this has been asked before, but what are , in general terms, the
> way of upgrading an entire system to woody?  I have to install stable
> first (on an alpha...due to woody install glitches), 

Hmm, what's wrong with the woody installation?

> and need help finding documentation on how to do it.

edit /etc/apt/sources.list to point to woody, and do apt-get
dist-upgrade

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Re: sort

[Steve Juranich]

Here's a chunk of Python code that should do the trick.

lines = open(filename).readlines()

line_dict = {}
for line in lines:
if line not in line_dict.keys():
print line
line_dict[line] = 1

I haven't debugged/tested this.  YMMV.

Have fun.

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