Re: Matrox G550DH and XFree86

[Marc Wilson]

On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 09:47:12PM +0200, Balazs Javor wrote:
> I have a Matrox G550 DualHead video card and I'd like to run XFree86 on
> it.  I seem to remember having read somewhere that XFree 4.1 dos not have
> proper support for it but XFree 4.2 does...

Well, XFree 4.1.0 raw doesn't, but you can use the driver that Matrox
provides.  Or you can make a couple of simple patches to the XFree mga
driver and build it yourself.

> Is this true?

See above.

> If yes, what's the best way to go?

Personally, I'd just mod the mga source and build it.  That's what I did.
Works fine.

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FIXED - Re: OS hallucinates hard drive geometry

[Aaron Maxwell]

On Wednesday 19 June 2002 03:25, Michel Loos wrote:
> Did you format (mkfs) those 2 partitions before trying to mount them?
> Seems the kernel sees your old formatation on hda2 and no formatation
> on hda3

D'oh, THAT'S what I was missing :)  mkfs'ing the partitions solved the 
problem.  Thanks to everyone who replied.  

Aaron 


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Re: Apache Exploit Released - where is an update for Woody?

[Osamu Aoki]

On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 03:42:12PM +1200, Jones, Steven wrote:
> i think i might just shut apache down until a patch is out there.
Or shutdown system for the matter :)  But ...
> -Original Message-
> From: John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, 20 June 2002 3:29 
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Apache Exploit Released - where is an update for Woody?
> There's now an exploit in the wild for Apache (the chunked whatever 
> bug). The DSA mentions an update which is version 1.3.9-14.1
> 
> We need a version > 1.2.12, and are running 1.3.23 from woody. Is there 
> any idea where a patched 1.3.23 for woody might be? Or should I install 
> from source from apache.org?

The newest ones are always at http://incoming.debian.org

apache-common_1.3.26-1_i386.deb  19-Jun-2002 17:47   545k

This looks newer to me.  Check MD5sum etc.  Or wait it to be checked and
appear in unstable.
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digital camera recommendation?

[Henry House]

Can anyone recommend a digital camera for use with Linux? My goals (in no
particular order):

* Good image quality
* Uses compact flash (the little wafers, each as large as an air-mail stamp)
* Complete Linux compatibility with OSS drivers
* Linux-friendly manufacturer

Any experiences that you can share would be helpful to me.

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Re: Need advice on best SMP mainboard for Debian

[Derek Gladding]

On Wednesday 19 June 2002 08:19 pm, Christopher Swingley wrote:
> * Derek Gladding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-Jun-19 15:46
>
> * AKDT]:

[snip]

> Make sure you've got very clean power, excellent cooling, and a good
> high-wattage power supply.  I've had trouble with most of the dual
> Tyan boards shutting themselves down or worse, frying themselves.
> Putting the machines in a climate controlled room (65 degrees) on
> conditioned power has been the only solution.
>

I used a 400W PSU instead of the min-spec 300W, stuck an extra fan in
the case and was fairly liberal with the thermal grease. So far, no problems
even in an 80+ degree room. All my machines are sitting on the clean side
of a fairly chunky UPS, so I have no idea of how sensitive they are to dirty
power, though I'd suspect that using an over-rated PSU deals with a fair
chunk of that.

> I've found the dual Pentium boards to be more stable and less
> finicky, and I'll probably buy those from now on after the trouble
> I've had with Tyan dual Athlon chipsets.
>

My experience has been the other way round - my previous machine
was a Tyan dual P3 and it needed a lot of BIOS twiddling to get it
stable. No experience with dual P4s though.

> YMMV,

Likewise ;-)

- Derek

>
> Chris


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Personal Letter

[Col. Abraham Makoko]

FROM: COL.ABRAHAM MAKOKO. (RTD)
DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO.

Dear Partner,

SEEKING IMMEDIATE ASSISTANCE.

Greetings to you, I wish to seek your assistance in a
project I will reveal to you shortly. My name is COL.
ABRAHAM MAKOKO of the Democratic Republic of Congo. I
was a close friend of the former President of the
Democratic Republic of Congo LAURENT KABILA of Blessed
memory, may his soul rest in peace.

While LAURENT KABILA was still alive he secretly
confided in me to take some funds abroad to keep in a
secret account, which was be used to fight opposition
forces back home in the Congo. He gave me Fifteen
Million United States Dollars (US$15,000,000.00) cash
to go with. But a day before I was schedule to travel
out of Congo, we heard that President Laurent Kabila
had been shot by his aide (Col. Rasheidi Karesava).

After all these trouble, I couldn’t travel with
the funds so I decided to keep it safely in a secret
vault in Congo. Since the issue of the funds was a
secret between the late Head of States and myself, I
couldn’t tell anyone in my country for the safety of
my life.

Since I'm now retired from the military and intend
to live a normal life with my family I have to
transfer these funds abroad because it’s safety is
being threatened by the series of military unrest in
the country, thus I seek your assistance to provide a
very suitable account and assist me with my
transaction.

I have some contacts to move the fund under
Diplomatic cover to a security company in the
Netherlands or the US in your name. This done so that
the funds cannot be traced. The diplomatic baggage
will be marked confidential and it will not pass
through normal custom/airport screening and clearance.

My inability to move this money out of Congo all this
while lies on my lack of trust on our supposed good
friends (western countries) who have suddenly became
hostile to those of us who worked with the late
President Laurent Kabila, since his son took office.

Though we have neither seen nor met each other, I know
we will be able to establish all the trust that we
need to ensure that the funds is safe with you.
Thus,if you are willing to assist me to move this fund
out of Congo, you can contact me through my email
address sending your private telephone and fax numbers
to enable us discuss the modalities and what your
share(percentage) for assisting me will be. I will
highly appreciate it if my request is given utmost
priority and consideration.


Best Regards,
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Replacing a new HD

[Erik Mathisen]

Hello,

I just bought a new hard drive for my system.  I pan on using it and
taking the disk that currently in it and using it on another box.  I
want to totally replicate what is happening on the disk.  Is there a
pretty painless way of doing this?

Thanks,

Erik

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RE: Apache Exploit Released - where is an update for Woody?

[Jones, Steven]

i think i might just shut apache down until a patch is out there.

regards,

Steven

-Original Message-
From: John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 20 June 2002 3:29 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Apache Exploit Released - where is an update for Woody?


There's now an exploit in the wild for Apache (the chunked whatever 
bug). The DSA mentions an update which is version 1.3.9-14.1

We need a version > 1.2.12, and are running 1.3.23 from woody. Is there 
any idea where a patched 1.3.23 for woody might be? Or should I install 
from source from apache.org?

Thanks,

John P Foster


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Apache Exploit Released - where is an update for Woody?

[John]

There's now an exploit in the wild for Apache (the chunked whatever 
bug). The DSA mentions an update which is version 1.3.9-14.1


We need a version > 1.2.12, and are running 1.3.23 from woody. Is there 
any idea where a patched 1.3.23 for woody might be? Or should I install 
from source from apache.org?


Thanks,

John P Foster


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Re: Need advice on best SMP mainboard for Debian

[Christopher Swingley]

* Derek Gladding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-Jun-19 15:46
* AKDT]:
> > I am seriously considering the Tyan S2460 Dual AMD board. Any
> > comments are appreciated. If you feel this is off topic please reply
> > anyway off the list. Thanks!
>
> I'm running mixed Woody/Sid, home-cooked 2.4.18 kernel on a Tyan dual
> Athlon MP setup (S2460 mobo or very similar), Not had a single problem
> so far, box runs very sweet, very fast, and very stable. For the work
> I'm doing, this particular mobo/CPU setup is at the sweet spot for
> performance/dollar. (YMMV of course, but I'd recommend it as a good
> setup for a high-end dev/simulation/crunching box).

Make sure you've got very clean power, excellent cooling, and a good
high-wattage power supply.  I've had trouble with most of the dual
Tyan boards shutting themselves down or worse, frying themselves.
Putting the machines in a climate controlled room (65 degrees) on
conditioned power has been the only solution.

I've found the dual Pentium boards to be more stable and less finicky,
and I'll probably buy those from now on after the trouble I've had
with Tyan dual Athlon chipsets.

YMMV,

Chris
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Re: Printer Recommendation Requested

[csj]

On 18 Jun 2002 18:08:00 -0400
Neal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > I've also searched for past recommendations.  The webpage
>  > seems to push Epson C80 the most.  I've seen some complaints
>  > of reliability for other Epson models, but nothing specifically
>  > for the C80.
>  > 
>  > Any recent experience with these (or other) printers (and info
>  > about where to buy them)?  I'm running potato, and using the
>  > parallel connector for printing.
>  > 
>  Mike,
>  I can recommend the Epson C80 from personal experience.  I use it on
>  both Debian and RedHat with CUPS the CUPS drivers gimp-print.

I will second this. The Epson C80 comes with both USB and, in case you
don't want to monkey with that, parallel port interfaces. The cartridges
use what appear to be archival-quality pigmented inks, including the
color inks, which come in separate cartridges. Unlike the inks used in
most inkjets, which bleed at the first raindrop, the inks used in the
Epson C80 are fairly waterproof. I've submerged a plain-paper printout
in a tub of water overnight with no apparent loss in visual quality. You
should however check out the price of the cartridges before buying. They
tend to be expensive.

Epson also happens to be one company that produces Linux drivers that
approximate the quality of their Windows and Mac drivers.


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Woody CD for installation on IBM T20

[Randolph S. Kahle]

I would like to install Woody on a T20 portable with a 3Com 589 PCMCIA
network card.

I have a "net install"-type CD dated March 2002 that I have used on all
my machines to date. This does not have the right drivers for the
network card, so I'm stuck.

I tried a Xircom PCMCIA card that someone else got to work on a Toshiba
portable, but that is not working for me on the T20.

Question -- 

where can I find an updated set of "net install" CDROMS for Woody (that
--hopefully -- would contain the drivers for these network cards) or
where can I find a complete CDROM image set?


Thanks!

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Re: help

[Jerome Acks Jr]

On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 08:59:12AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi:
> 
> I am in the middle of upgrading to 3.0 and while apt/dpkg
> was installing th enew version of debconf
> I got these errors and not sure how to fix
> 
> 
> Setting up debconf (1.0.32) ...
> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
>   LANGUAGE = (unset),
>   LC_ALL = (unset),
>   LANG = "en_US"
> are supported and installed on your system.
> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
> Ambiguous call resolved as CORE::chdir(), qualify as such or use & at
> /usr/lib/perl5/Cwd.pm line 306.Ambiguous call resolved as CORE::chdir(), 
> qualify as such or use & at
> /usr/lib/perl5/Cwd.pm line 308.base does not define $base::VERSION--version 
> check failed at
> /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver.pm line 6.BEGIN failed--compilation aborted 
> at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver.pm

Do you have perl-5.6 installed?

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Re: see shutdown messages without hitting alt ctrl F7

[Vineet Kumar]

* Dan Jacobson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020619 15:15]:
> I notice upon shutdown -h now I miss all the neat messages about what
> its shutting down, because I am sent to tty1 instead of remaining on
> window 7, the xwindow, and I must manually do alt ctrl F7 to go back
> and see them.
> 
> I suppose this is for my own good, in case I want to type any last
> words or requests into tty1 before power is cut.
> 
> However I miss the orderly turning off of services messages, and feel
> that I should get to see them without having to do alt ctrl F7,
> especially since that's where I was in the first place.

Well, you could exit X, and then shutdown from the console. In that
case, the messages would spew to your current console, (tty1, say) and
you'd see them right there.

Alternatively, you can specify a particular console to always be "the
console" that the kernel spews messages to: add a "console=" parameter
to your kernel command line. You can try that once by entering "Linux
console=/dev/tty8" at LILO's boot prompt, and if you like it, make it
permanent by adding 'append="console=/dev/tty8"' to your lilo.conf and
re-running lilo. (Needless to say, these examples only work if you're
actually using lilo, not grub or something else.) If you use one of
those methods, all kernel messages will be sent to tty8 instead of
/dev/tty0, which always refers to the "current" virtual console. (Of
course, adjust tty8 to tty1 or tty12, or whatever you prefer).

good times,
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Re: Need advice on best SMP mainboard for Debian

[Derek Gladding]

On Wednesday 19 June 2002 10:11 am, John Foster wrote:
> I have decided to build a new workstation and am asking for users
> input as to the best mainboard for the money available. I can go
> pretty much any direction i.e. AMD,Intel or possibly Alpha but I do
> not have any experience with Alpha. I am seriously considering the
> Tyan S2460 Dual AMD board. Any comments are appreciated. If you feel
> this is off topic please reply anyway off the list. Thanks!

I'm running mixed Woody/Sid, home-cooked 2.4.18 kernel on a Tyan dual Athlon
MP setup (S2460 mobo or very similar), Not had a single problem so far, box 
runs 
very sweet, very fast, and very stable. For the work I'm doing, this particular 
mobo/CPU
setup is at the sweet spot for performance/dollar. (YMMV of course, but I'd 
recommend it as a good setup for a high-end dev/simulation/crunching box).

- Derek


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Re: Can't reach master.debian.org

[Colin Watson]

On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 07:14:22PM -0400, Tom Zych wrote:
> Does anyone have any idea why I can't reach master.debian.org,
> aka bugs.debian.org? It works fine at work (Win95). At home I'm
> running woody and I can't so much as ping it. The address resolves
> ok.

Can you get there now? brainfood.com, its host, was off the network for
a few minutes earlier today.

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Re: Connecting to Network..

[Colin Watson]

On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 06:03:56PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 02:23:10PM -0400, Nicholas Parsons wrote:
> | Following this I would need a way to configure
> | DHCP so I could connect to net via my cable modem.  Is there a script
> | that does this setup?  Thanks for your help on this in advance :-)
> 
> Edit /etc/network/interfaces to have
> auto eth0
> interface eth0 inet dhcp

For "interface" there, read "iface". (Otherwise Derrick is spot on as
usual. :))

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Re: Deactivating swap ..... takes forever

[Nicos Gollan]

On Wednesday 19 June 2002 21:32, martin f krafft wrote:
> it might be a problem. the 2.4 kernel has the most embarassing
> virtual memory management i've seen. quite possible it's the cause.
> 2.2 still had fair (not good) virtual memory management.

I hope you aren't talking about that pre-2.4.10 "let's kill init if 
we're short on memory" VM?

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Re: xemacs background won't show an .xpm file

[Glen Lee Edwards]

On Wednesday 19 June 2002 01:07 am, Glyn Millington wrote:
> Glen Lee Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > http://members.fcwm.org/glen/fvwm/fvwm2.jpg
>
> Nice - but do you LIKE those icons?!

It's a matter of priorities.  I have to work on functionality first.  I 
worry about looks when I have the time.  Right now that isn't on my 
priority list.  Also, that's an old screen shot.  I'm now using KDE as 
the desk top manager with FVWM as the window manager.  I haven't had 
the time to tweak the two so they work better together, but for now 
they're doing what I need.  (kicker isn't showing all the active 
programs or desktops)

> > I can't get it to work on the Debian box.  Instead of displaying
> > the pixmap I'm getting a solid black background.  Following is the
> > line I'm using in .xemacs.conf:
> >
> > (default ((t (:size "11pt" :stipple
> > "/home/glenlee/.fvwm/paper/grey.xpm"
> >
> > :family "Lucidatypewriter"))) t)
>
> Don't know what's wrong with the Lisp, if anything.  Xemacs 21.4 puts
> its config files in ~/.xemacs, and calls them init.el and
> custom.el(from customize, not to be edited by hand). Have you
> deliberately changed that?

Well, sort of not really.  I have extensive modifications, most of which 
are in various files in ~/lisp.  When I installed xemacs on this box, I 
first copied all my configuration files over from the other server.  On 
installing xemacs, it stated that it wanted to make some changes 
regarding moving configuration files from ~/ to ~/.xemacs, which I 
agreed to.  init.el reads:

(add-to-list 'load-path "/home/glenlee")
(if (string-match "XEmacs" emacs-version) ; compares "Xemacs" with 
results of emacs-version
  (setq custom-file ".xemacs.conf") ; if "true" custom file 
becomes .xemacs.conf
  (setq custom-file ".emacs.conf")) ; if "false" custom file 
becomes .emacs.conf  -  odd way of doing if - else.
(load custom-file)

which is word for word what .emacs used to read.  It's doing a pretty 
good job of pulling most of my configuration options.  But some seem to 
have mysteriously disappeared.  Unfortunately there are so many things 
I'm currently trying to fix on this box that I haven't had time to try 
to do a step by step check of what's going wrong where with xemacs.

> I usually set such things from .Xdefaults   eg
>
>
> Emacs*EmacsFrame.default.attributeBackgroundPixmap:  
> ~/aaa/bitmaps/backgroundtile.xpm
>
> Then do
>
> xrdb -load ~/.Xdefaults  to start the new settings   then restart
> Xemacs

Sweet!  That's what I was looking for!  Is there a resource somewhere 
that gives an exhaustive list of the object model X uses?

> Most of this is in the Xemacs FAQ

Figures,

Thanks, Glyn.

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Can't reach master.debian.org

[Tom Zych]

Does anyone have any idea why I can't reach master.debian.org,
aka bugs.debian.org? It works fine at work (Win95). At home I'm
running woody and I can't so much as ping it. The address resolves
ok. Don't know what to say about my network setup - ask me.
(Please be specific about how to find things out.)

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Re: How to report a Bug (Which Package?)

[Bob Proulx]

Please be careful about your attribution lines.  I did not write any
of what you attributed to me.  All of that was written by
Abdul Latip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

Bob

> On Wednesday 19 June 2002 03:22, Bob Proulx wrote:
> > > I have just installed woody from scratch (due to trying ext3fs);
> > > and then I run "tasksel". I selected "X11"; and then choose
> > > "kdm" out of "xdm", "gdm", and "kdm".
> > >
> > > Apparently, it installs everything, unfortunately it does not


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Re: Exim authentication

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 02:44:34PM -0700, Mike Mimic wrote:

| > I believe that putting the following in the authentication
| > configuration section will allow you to use PAM. You will just
| > need to add a file named /etc/pam.d/exim with the appropriate PAM
| > config options
| 
| I have made /etc/pam.d/exim with:
| 
| #%PAM-1.0
| auth   required pam_unix.so
| accountrequired pam_unix.so
| 
| But I (still) get 334 535 Incorrect authentication
| data.
| 
| Should I change anything more?

Run exim from a shell with '-d9' and then try again.  You'll get lots
of debug info in your shell, and that should tell you what exim is
trying to do and why it considers the authentication to have failed.

HTH,
-D

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Re: Connecting to Network..

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 02:23:10PM -0400, Nicholas Parsons wrote:
| Hi all,
| 
| I have a similar problem as Matt.
| The only difference with me is that I forgot my ethernet card was smc
| and so bypassed the network configuration screen during installation
| process of debian.  My question is:  Do I just have to insmod the correct
| ethernet card driver into my running kernel (I'm using 2.2.x kernel)
| to setup my network?

Yes.  But if you do nothing more, then you'll have to repeat the next
time you reboot.

Create a file in /etc/modutils (eg /etc/modutils/local) and put the
line
alias eth0 smc
(or whatever driver is appropriate) in there and run
update-modules
as root.

| Following this I would need a way to configure
| DHCP so I could connect to net via my cable modem.  Is there a script
| that does this setup?  Thanks for your help on this in advance :-)

Edit /etc/network/interfaces to have
auto eth0
interface eth0 inet dhcp

and then run 'ifup eth0'.

When the alias (above) is configured right, the kernel will know what
driver to use for 'eth0'.

HTH,
-D

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Re: Connecting to Network..

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 10:18:02AM -0400, Matthew Tedder wrote:
| 
| I got Debian installed through through the net install version, but
| it never connected me to the network.
| 
| There was a point at which it asked me if I wanted to setup a point-to-point 
| connection, but I just want to connect to the network and the gateway server 
| for Internet.  So I said "No" and no other options arose for connecting to 
| the Internet.
| 
| This also means that I now have a very basic install and cannot apt-get 
| anything over the Internet, as I was hoping to do.
| 
| Should I have said yes to a PPP connection?!  Do I now have to set this up 
| manually or is there a utility?

The easiest thing to do (if you do have a "direct" connection, eg
ethernet) is just edit /etc/network/interfaces and enter the proper
info.  Then run 'ifup eth0' to bring up the interface.  'man
interfaces' will tell you about the format of the file, if the
existing one isn't obvious enough.

HTH,
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see shutdown messages without hitting alt ctrl F7

[Dan Jacobson]

I notice upon shutdown -h now I miss all the neat messages about what
its shutting down, because I am sent to tty1 instead of remaining on
window 7, the xwindow, and I must manually do alt ctrl F7 to go back
and see them.

I suppose this is for my own good, in case I want to type any last
words or requests into tty1 before power is cut.

However I miss the orderly turning off of services messages, and feel
that I should get to see them without having to do alt ctrl F7,
especially since that's where I was in the first place.

So, am I being unreasonable or what does one do in some rc file? 

No, I'm not talking about the broadcast message that the system is
going down.  I see that already. 
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Re: hostname in dhcpcd

[Gary Turner]

On Wed, 19 Jun 2002 17:22:13 -0400, Andrew Biggadike wrote:

>I am running Woody and kernel 2.4.18 and installed dhcpcd from potato
>(because it was recommended).  I am properly pulling an IP from my DHCP
>server, which is nice, but now I cannot use an entry in /etc/hosts to
>map my IP to my hostname (since it's no longer static).  When I try to
>ping my hostname it says "unknown host."   
>The only reason I need to connect to myself is for webmin (it doesn't
>seem to like 'localhost'), but I would think there is a relatively easy
>way to do this that I am not aware of.  Any help is appreciated ..
>
>Thanks, Andrew.

Wouldn't the line;

127.0.0.1   localhost   

work?
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Re: Exim authentication

[Mike Mimic]

Hi!

> I believe that putting the following in the
> authentication configuration
> section will allow you to use PAM. You will just
> need to add a file
> named /etc/pam.d/exim with the appropriate PAM
> config options

I have made /etc/pam.d/exim with:

#%PAM-1.0
auth   required pam_unix.so
accountrequired pam_unix.so

But I (still) get 334 535 Incorrect authentication
data.

Should I change anything more?

(I use Pegasus Mail and I add both PLAIN and LOGIN
sections)


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Re: Woody install insists on using Potato packages

[David P James]

Grant Edwards wrote:
> In muc.lists.debian.user, you wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 12:10:11AM -0500, Grant Edwards
>> wrote:
>
>
>>> The next thing I can't figure out is why dpkg is
>>> using "potato" packages and apt-get is using
>>> "stable".  The "available" list in /var/lib/dpkg
>>> shows all packages are from potato, and apt-get's
>>> sources list is all stable.

I noticed this the other day when I made my fresh install,
so I changed it during the install process at the
appropriate prompt.

>>
>> It's a bit screwy ... but fortunately will be "fixed"
>> by releasing. :)
>
>
> So it's normal for an install done with woody floppies to
> use "stable" as the source for packages?
>
I wouldn't say 'normal' - you have to think about what
woody, the current *testing* version, is. It will be the
*next* stable release and so the boot floppies should be
pointing at *stable* as stable will at that point be woody.
Having said that, it would seem to make more sense to point
at 'woody' or 'potato' or whatever by default rather than
'stable', but I'm willing to live with it because I don't
have the faintest idea how they make it all work so well in
the first place :)

The point being if you're installing a stable Debian release
the boot-floppies will *always* be fine.

>
>> Try editing /etc/apt/sources.list to point to woody and
>> then running 'dselect update'.
>
>
> I was about to edit sources.list and do apt-get
> update/upgrade last night, but wasn't sure it would do
> what I wanted.  Should I really use dselect isntead of
> apt-get?  I've never had much success with dselect in the
> past.
>



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hostname in dhcpcd

[Andrew Biggadike]

I am running Woody and kernel 2.4.18 and installed dhcpcd from potato
(because it was recommended).  I am properly pulling an IP from my DHCP
server, which is nice, but now I cannot use an entry in /etc/hosts to
map my IP to my hostname (since it's no longer static).  When I try to
ping my hostname it says "unknown host."   
The only reason I need to connect to myself is for webmin (it doesn't
seem to like 'localhost'), but I would think there is a relatively easy
way to do this that I am not aware of.  Any help is appreciated ..

Thanks, Andrew.




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Re: ensoniq 5880 kernel support

[Marcelo Chiapparini]

On Wed, 19 Jun 2002 23:02:24 +0200
Jan Groenewald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > thank you very much for the answer. I've compiled my kernel with the
> > sb module, and the problem remains the same, I cannot get sound as
> > root (I think that if I get sound as root then I can modify the
> > permissions in order to get sound as normal user). Everything is OK
> > with the cdrom, the device is recognized, and even gtcd runs,
> > playing the CD without any sound as output... I wonder what is going
> > wrong... Marcelo,
> 
> Any messages on boot-up about sb module?
> Try $cat somefile.au>/dev/audio.
> Speakers working? plugged in? :)
> 
> regards,
> jan

Jan,

the output at boot is the following:

Jun 19 16:27:32 nostromo kernel: Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C)
by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996 Jun 19 16:27:32 nostromo kernel: sb: I/O,
IRQ, and DMA are mandatory

so, I am afraid that I have to go over the I/O, IQR and DMA settings...
but I wonder where is the place for do it in xconfig. The kernel is
compiled with plug and pray support, it doesn't help at all?

speakers are plugged in. I will test the speakers in another machine
however.. 

Thanks again!!

Regards,
Marcelo


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Re: Problems with bcast_2000 package

[Colin Watson]

On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 05:05:21PM -0400, stan wrote:
> I'm trying to install teh bcast_200 package and it's failing with:
> 
> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/bcast_2000c-1_i386.deb
> (--unpack):
>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/cjpeg.1.gz', which is also in
>  package libjpeg-progs

That's not a package from the Debian archive, is it? (Can't find it,
anyway.) You can "fix" it by running 'dpkg --force-overwrite -i
/var/cache/apt/archives/bcast_2000c-1_i386.deb', but that will of course
overwrite the correct man page in the libjpeg-progs packages. You might
be better getting whoever produced the bcast .deb to fix it.

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RE:generic ps2 mouse driver

[Andrew Agno]

Raffaele Sandrini writes:
 > "nonwheeled" mouse to logitech ones. I ask you now if there is a
 > 100% way (99% are enough :-) ) to sucessfully run all mice on all
 > systems with the same config --> is there a generic ps2 Driver? I
 > search something like "Standard PS/2 Mouse" on M$ Windows wich can
 > manage all ps2 mice.
 > 
 > Its not necessary that gpm can manage it only XFree86 has to.

Well, if you do use gpm, you can have it autodetect the mouse by
setting the type to autops2:

% cat /etc/gpm.conf
device=/dev/psaux
responsiveness=
repeat_type=raw
type=autops2
append=""
sample_rate=
%

You can change the repeat_type to something that everything can
use--I've never tried this, but it seems like it should work.  Try it
with imps2, for instance, or just ps2.

Then, the X config file only needs to use whatever protocol you
specified and needs to point to /dev/gpmdata.

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3Com Modem + Realtek Network

[dckrinke]

I had trouble at first getting a 3Com 5610 modem 
to work with Debian Woody, 
but I was able to solve that for a while.
It turns out that the 5610 wants to work on /dev/ttyS4
and 
Woody does not create this, by default. 
I read the Serial-HOWTO from TLDP and 
it told me how to create /dev/ttyS4. 
This was easy, this was good to learn.
Then setserial /dev/ttyS4 identified a UART. 
And pppconfig autodetected the modem, 
and I dialed an IP and reached the Internet. Good.

But then I setup a Realtek 8139(A) network adapter. 
I did not specify parameters to the module and 
it autoconfigured to irq 5 and ioport 0xb400.

Now the modem does not work, 
Woody autoconfigures /dev/ttyS4 to irq 2 and ioport
0x01a0 
but this does not work; 
setserial /dev/ttyS4 lists UART unknown. 

Under winME, the modem works on COM5, IRQ 10 and IO B000. 

I tried to set these parameters with: 
setserial /dev/ttyS4 port 0x4000 irq 10, 
and these parameters do get set, 
but the modem does not work.  

The Realtek uses irq 5 and ioport 0xb400-b4ff

cat /proc/ioports does not list anything at 0xb000.

Any suggestions? 
TIA,
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Re: ensoniq 5880 kernel support

[Jan Groenewald]

> thank you very much for the answer. I've compiled my kernel with the sb
> module, and the problem remains the same, I cannot get sound as root (I
> think that if I get sound as root then I can modify the permissions in
> order to get sound as normal user). Everything is OK with the cdrom, the
> device is recognized, and even gtcd runs, playing the CD without any
> sound as output... I wonder what is going wrong...
Marcelo,

Any messages on boot-up about sb module?
Try $cat somefile.au>/dev/audio.
Speakers working? plugged in? :)

regards,
jan

ps. keep it on the list please, others can help.

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Problems with bcast_2000 package

[stan]

I'm trying to install teh bcast_200 package and it's failing with:

dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/bcast_2000c-1_i386.deb
(--unpack):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/cjpeg.1.gz', which is also in
 package libjpeg-progs

If I go inot dselect and unselect libjpeg-progs, I get lot's of other
things that need to be deleted, becayse tehy depend on it.

How can I work around this problem?


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Re: ntpdate troubles

[Bill Benedetto]

>>> Jerome BENOIT writes:

  Jerome> I have just tried
  Jerome>
  Jerome> ntpdate 17.254.0.26
  Jerome>
  Jerome> and I got exactly the same error message
  Jerome> (17.254.0.26 is the ip btained via ping for ntp.apple.com)
  Jerome>
  Jerome> Very strange !

Really!

Let me see if I have this straight...

  ntpdate ntp.apple.com  FAILS... ?

  ntpdate 17.254.0.26FAILS... ?

  ntpdate -d -v -B ntp.apple.com  WORKS... ?

Do I have that correct?

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Re: ntpdate troubles

[Bill Benedetto]

Brother.  I must be pretty tired.

See my corrections below

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  Bill> Okay.  It works okay at boot time?

  Jerome> No !
  Jerome> It is why I debg it: I get exactly the samr message error in 
  Jerome> `/var/log/syslog'.

  Bill> 
  Bill> When you ran it by hand to debug it, the command looked something
  Bill> like this, right?
  Bill> 
  Bill> ntpdate -b REMOTE_MACHINE_NAME_GOES_HERE

  Jerome> without the -b , but with -d -v -B

Okay.  ntpdate with no REMOTE_MACHINE_NAME_GOES_HERE gives me
  no servers can be used, exiting

I chose a machine in my building and get
  adjust time server 192.168.0.5 offset 0.000451 sec

I chose a *MACHINE* outside my building (which I probably can't
get to because of all our stoopid firewalls*)* and got
  no server suitable for synchronization found

So I would guess this means that you cannot get to the machine
you are ntpdate'ing against.  You showed that it worked when you
did it against ntp.apple.com.  I assume that it also works when
you debug it by hand?  If so, I would guess that Joris'
suggestion is a good one:

  Joris> on my machine, I haven't got ntpdate to work out the
  Joris> hostnames of any ntp server. I just pinged them, copied
  Joris> the ip's and dpkg-reconfigure'd ntp to look for the
  Joris> ip's. It has worked ever since.

Meaning that ntpdate is using a hostname but *CANNOT* resolve the hostname
into an IP...  I think... :-)

HTH,

- Bill
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Re: ntpdate troubles

[Jerome BENOIT]

So I would guess this means that you cannot get to the machine
you are ntpdate'ing against.  You showed that it worked when you
did it against ntp.apple.com.  I assume that it also works when
you debug it by hand?  If so, I would guess that Joris'
suggestion is a good one:

  Joris> on my machine, I haven't got ntpdate to work out the
  Joris> hostnames of any ntp server. I just pinged them, copied
  Joris> the ip's and dpkg-reconfigure'd ntp to look for the
  Joris> ip's. It has worked ever since.




I have just tried

ntpdate 17.254.0.26

and I got exactly the same error message
(17.254.0.26 is the ip btained via ping for ntp.apple.com)

Very strange !


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information

[ZBenjudah]

Hello  was wondering if anyone could give me some feedback on the dosemue 
I have not been active  in my LINUX OS  for a while  have been busy. I just 
cannot get it to work right  I have  kernel 2.2.12 #2 at least thats what it 
tells me when I  install 
the operating system.  When I installed the system I installed  just a basic 
system with  mc. My computer is a 486 DX with the math processer,and 16 mg 
memory, and a 4 gig hard drive. It isn't much but it works. When I tried to 
configure the emulator with the dexe it would throw me an error that there 
seemed to be no bootable DOS  partition. There definitely is one  because 
thetas all that is on my computer right now, and I can access my c drive  
with the mount  /dev/hda1 /c  command  so I know that it is there. I guess 
the point to my question is  would there be anyone who has successfully ran 
the dosemu and got it configured so that there could be some correspondence 
with me to get mine to run, or is there any ongoing work being done with it.  
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Re: mirror, the perl script mirroring package

[Alex Malinovich]

On Wed, 2002-06-19 at 15:02, Walter Tautz wrote:

> > I am attempting to setup a local private mirror of debian using the perl 
> > script package. It has run for several days. It quits from time to time and
> > waits for the next initiation event from crontab, but it can't seem to clear
> > its queue of requests to set up softlink into the pool. I've tried pointing 
> > it
> > to a couple of different debian mirrors and get the same results for both.
> 
> I would suggest using the scripts on the main debian site. Look for info
> about how to mirror the site. I prefer using rsync
> 
> search the site for 'mirror' or just go to:
> http://www.debian.org/mirror/ftpmirror

I looked through most of the "official" ways of doing things (including
the mirror script) and ended up writing my own because I didn't like the
way the others were set up. (And because I needed an excuse to brush up
on my Perl. :) I just wanted to mirror unstable, and I wanted to
minimize the space needed. It's not terribly fault-tolerant, but it's
VERY easy to debug. After the initial mirroring is done updates are
usually done within 3 - 4 hours over a DSL line. (768 Kbps) If you can't
get mirror working and want to try it just let me know.

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Re: ntpdate troubles

[Bill Benedetto]

  Bill> Okay.  It works okay at boot time?

  Jerome> No !
  Jerome> It is why I debg it: I get exactly the samr message error in 
  Jerome> `/var/log/syslog'.

  Bill> 
  Bill> When you ran it by hand to debug it, the command looked something
  Bill> like this, right?
  Bill> 
  Bill> ntpdate -b REMOTE_MACHINE_NAME_GOES_HERE

  Jerome> without the -b , but with -d -v -B

Okay.  ntpdate with no REMOTE_MACHINE_NAME_GOES_HERE gives me
  no servers can be used, exiting

I chose a machine in my building and get
  adjust time server 192.168.0.5 offset 0.000451 sec

I chose a building outside my building (which I probably can't
get to because of all our stoopid firewalls and got
  no server suitable for synchronization found

So I would guess this means that you cannot get to the machine
you are ntpdate'ing against.  You showed that it worked when you
did it against ntp.apple.com.  I assume that it also works when
you debug it by hand?  If so, I would guess that Joris'
suggestion is a good one:

  Joris> on my machine, I haven't got ntpdate to work out the
  Joris> hostnames of any ntp server. I just pinged them, copied
  Joris> the ip's and dpkg-reconfigure'd ntp to look for the
  Joris> ip's. It has worked ever since.

Meaning that ntpdate is using a hostname but resolve the hostname
into an IP...  I think... :-)

HTH,

- Bill
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Re: Exim authentication

[Mark Roach]

On Wed, 2002-06-19 at 15:18, Mike Mimic wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> > | How can I set that user should login for SMTP the
> > same
> > | as for POP3? So he should use the same username
> > and
> > | password as for POP3 (that is the user linux
> > account
> > | username and password).
> > 
> > Instead, exim supports SMTP AUTH.
> 
> Yes, I would like to implement that. The problem is
> that examples use plain text file, but I would like
> to use system accounts (I have shadow passwords).
> 
> So what's the code for server_condition for that?
> 

I believe that putting the following in the authentication configuration
section will allow you to use PAM. You will just need to add a file
named /etc/pam.d/exim with the appropriate PAM config options

login:
  driver = plaintext
  public_name = LOGIN
  server_prompts = "Username:: : Password::"
  server_condition = "${if pam{$1:$2}{1}{0}}"
  server_set_id = $1


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generic ps2 mouse driver

[Raffaele Sandrini]

Hi

I need to set up a large amout of systems with Debian. While the systems are 
more or less the same (or ordered in bigger groups) there are many different 
ps2 mice around. They are "randomly" atached to a system and we don't care 
about wich mouse is pluged to wich system. The range goes from IntelliMouse 
over "normal" "nonwheeled" mouse to logitech ones.
I ask you now if there is a 100% way (99% are enough :-) ) to sucessfully run 
all mice on all systems with the same config --> is there a generic ps2 
Driver? I search something like "Standard PS/2 Mouse" on M$ Windows wich can 
manage all ps2 mice.

Its not necessary that gpm can manage it only XFree86 has to.

cheers,
Raffaele
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Re: 2X CD's as emulated scsi

[Eduard Bloch]

#include 
Helgi Örn wrote on Wed Jun 19, 2002 um 08:10:17PM:

> I can't install the VMware tools because VMware doesn't accept emulated
> scsi drivers (if I've understood this right).

I doubt, ide-scsi is not your problem here.

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Re: Woody install insists on using Potato packages

[Eduard Bloch]

#include 
Derek Gladding wrote on Wed Jun 19, 2002 um 12:37:12AM:

> I've seen this happen, and although I can't shed any light on the 
> underlying mechanics, I've found that using both update options
> (i.e. apt-get update and dselect menu option #1) before doing an
> update seems to make it all work properly.

Look in /etc/apt/sources.list. "stable" is the default choice here,
since Woody was expected to be released 6 weeks ago. Change stable to
woody and call "dselect update".

Gruss/Regards,
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Re: ensoniq 5880 kernel support

[Marcelo Chiapparini]

On Wed, 19 Jun 2002 20:29:38 +0200
Jan Groenewald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 02:02:43PM -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
> > 00:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02)
> > the nearest option in the xconfig menu is the support for Ensoniq
> > Audio PCI (ES1370), so I compiled this one into the kernel. But I am
> > afraid that this is not the correct option, because I can't get
> > sound even playing  gtcd as root... any suggestion will be very
> > welcome! Marcelo,
> 
> I also have ensoniq, though much older, sb is very good at
> detecting them, sound-HOWTO got me through it in a few
> minutes. try $insmod sb. or $modconf and remove that ES1270.
> 
> hope it helps,
> jan


Jan,

thank you very much for the answer. I've compiled my kernel with the sb
module, and the problem remains the same, I cannot get sound as root (I
think that if I get sound as root then I can modify the permissions in
order to get sound as normal user). Everything is OK with the cdrom, the
device is recognized, and even gtcd runs, playing the CD without any
sound as output... I wonder what is going wrong...

Regards,

Marcelo

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Re: Exim authentication

[Mike Mimic]

Hi!

> | How can I set that user should login for SMTP the
> same
> | as for POP3? So he should use the same username
> and
> | password as for POP3 (that is the user linux
> account
> | username and password).
> 
> Instead, exim supports SMTP AUTH.

Yes, I would like to implement that. The problem is
that examples use plain text file, but I would like
to use system accounts (I have shadow passwords).

So what's the code for server_condition for that?


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Sleeping X

[Jeremy Turner]

I am running Debian Sid with XFree86 4.1 and a USB keyboard and mouse. 
When my display power management kicks in, I cannot awake my display
with the keyboard or the mouse (both USB devices) but only with a PS/2
keyboard (haven't tried a PS/2 mouse).  Is there a way to tell XFree86
that my mouse should be able to wake the display back up?

Jeremy

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Re: mirror, the perl script mirroring package

[Walter Tautz]

On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, Paul E Condon wrote:

> I am attempting to setup a local private mirror of debian using the perl 
> script package. It has run for several days. It quits from time to time and
> waits for the next initiation event from crontab, but it can't seem to clear
> its queue of requests to set up softlink into the pool. I've tried pointing it
> to a couple of different debian mirrors and get the same results for both.
> 
> Suggestions, please. A different package? Some trick in setup?

I would suggest using the scripts on the main debian site. Look for info
about how to mirror the site. I prefer using rsync

search the site for 'mirror' or just go to:
http://www.debian.org/mirror/ftpmirror

-walter

ps. You may need to hack this a bit, i.e. include the appropriate --exclude
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RE:what to use for installfest this saturday?

[Andrew Agno]

How about creating a local woody mirror (using apt-move) with the
stuff you'll install plus a woody install CD?  Just check out the
thread on "Woody install insists on using Potato packages"--basically, 
either skip both tasksel and dselect in the install (which I always
do) and install other packages later, or edit the sources.list by
hand, changing stable to woody.

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Matrox G550DH and XFree86

[Balazs Javor]

Hi,

I have a Matrox G550 DualHead video card and I'd like to
run XFree86 on it.
I seem to remember having read somewhere that XFree 4.1
dos not have proper support for it but XFree 4.2 does...

Is this true?
If yes, what's the best way to go?
Look for unofficial XFree 4.2 debs or to compile it from source?
In the later case how would I handle dependencies? (Install stuff
that depends on X.)

Are there any known major problems with XFree 4.2?

Many thanks for your help in advance!
best regards,
Balazs


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Re: Woody+initrd+raid1+boot = :-(

[Thomas -Balu- Walter]

+ Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [19.06.02 10:57]:
> The current md driver is broken-by-design in the autodetection issue.
> You have to compile the driver into the kernel and mark the partition as
> type 0xFD to make it autodetecteable. When using modules, you will be
> forced to reconstruct the array from a userspace utility. I suggest, you
> install mdadm, add mdadm to /etc/mkinitrd/exe, then edit
> 
> /usr/share/initrd-tools/linuxrc
> 
> and add something like
> 
> /sbin/mdadm -R -A /dev/md0 /dev/hdx /dev/hdy

this has to be "-A -R", if not I got a message "mdadm: not allowed, mode
already set to manage"

> in the first lines. There should be an easier way of modifying the
> start-script of initrd, I am just writting a wishlist bugreport about
> that.

I've tried this and also wrote a script /etc/mkinitrd/scripts/mdadm
that is run by mkinitrd before the final image is created. It creates 
a script "/scripts/mdadm.sh" in initrd that gets started by linuxrc
after all modules and stuff were loaded:

#!/bin/sh
# This script creates an executable file in $INITRDDIR/scripts that
# is to be run after the initrd started and the modules were loaded.
#
# It is supposed to start a failed array, which is needed to boot
# from a mirrored raid-partition using modules if raid-disk 0 fails
#
cat > $INITRDDIR/scripts/mdadm.sh << "EOF"
#!/bin/sh
echo "Running mdadm to start array:"
/sbin/mdadm -A -R /dev/md1 /dev/hdc3 /dev/hda3
EOF
chmod ugo+rx $INITRDDIR/scripts/mdadm.sh


However both solutions did not work either way. If the raid1-module gets
started and starts the md1-device, I got
mdadm: device already active, cannot assemble it
which is not nice, but does not confuse me - as long as it's only a
warning and the raid got configured before

If /dev/hdc got "broken" I get 
mdadm: cannot open device /dev/hdc3: No such device or address
mdadm: /dev/hdc3 has no superblock - assembly aborted

I don't know mdadm yet that much, but I thought "-R" was supposed to run
the array anyway - which is not.

Guess I finally have to build a kernel manually :-(.

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Re: ntpdate troubles

[Joris]

>> Okay.  It works okay at boot time?
> No !
> It is why I debg it: I get exactly the samr message error in
> `/var/log/syslog'.

on my machine, I haven't got ntpdate to work out the hostnames of any ntp
server. I just pinged them, copied the ip's and dpkg-reconfigure'd ntp to
look for the ip's. It has worked ever since.
Success,

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Re: what to use for installfest this saturday?

[Rox de Gabba]

On Wednesday 19 June 2002 20:55, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> Our lug is having its first installfest this coming Saturday. What would
> be the best debian install for those who want it? Any chance of woody
> being officially released by then?

I think woody is stable enough, so i suggest you jst use woody, with 
netinstall boot disc of course:)


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Re: Woody+initrd+raid1+boot = :-(

[Thomas -Balu- Walter]

+ Thomas -Balu- Walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [19.06.02 11:14]:
> + George Karaolides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [19.06.02 10:18]:
> > Have you got it all working normally before simulating failures?  Can you
> > boot into the RAID from either disk, using the BIOS setup to select?
> 
> I am not sure if I tried to change the boot-order in BIOS yet (I've
> tried many things yesterday :), but will try this afternoon and post it
> here.  

I've changed the setting in bios that it boots from HDD-3 (instead of
HDD-0) and it still worked.

Lilo-Setup is okay then - I really think it has something to do with the
raid1-module

 Balu


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Printer problems in x

[Rox de Gabba]

I just installed cups and have configured my printer through cups web 
interface. Have a problem configuring the printer in x, so that i could print 
directly from kmail or openoffice.

Here goes the problem... The printer i have added is working, command lpr -P 
  is working perfectly. But when i push the print button 
in any kde application, the command line that is executed includes wrong 
printer name (lpr -P 'WRONG_NAME' ), so i get an error (because there 
is no printer with such name, naturally). Where can i configure printers in 
x, so that i can change the name of the default printer, which is obviously 
wrong? I can't rename the default printer in KDE control center, i have tried 
that.


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Re: Deactivating swap ..... takes forever

[martin f krafft]

also sprach tvn1981 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.06.19.2104 +0200]:
> I tried swapoff -a and reboot with Debian's default 2.2 kernel (Woody)
> and it turns swapoff immediately, no problem.

it might be a problem. the 2.4 kernel has the most embarassing virtual
memory management i've seen. quite possible it's the cause. 2.2 still
had fair (not good) virtual memory management.

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Re: Woody install insists on using Potato packages

[Grant Edwards]

In muc.lists.debian.user, you wrote:

>> So it's normal for an install done with woody floppies to use
>> "stable" as the source for packages?
> 
> Unfortunately so, as far as I know.

Ouch.  I've probably got another system using old packages and
I didn't even know it.

>> Should I really use dselect isntead of apt-get?  I've never had
>> much success with dselect in the past.
> 
> 'dselect update' doesn't imply running dselect's full-screen interface.
> It's just a layer over 'apt-get update' which also updates dpkg's
> available file, and thus makes certain parts of the system behave more
> consistently.

That should be cool then.  Thanks!

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Re: what to use for installfest this saturday?

[Dave Price]

Rick,

I have been installing woody from iso's for some time now, and recomend
it (even to newbies). In fact there has been enough discussion here and
elsehere re: potato->woody .vs. woody from cd that I would suggest the
woody out of the box option as preferable for anyone except thos who
absolutely want potato for it's 'stability' - and perhaps those folks
ought to be using open-bsd anyway (?) ... but then that would make your
linux lug like our linux lug, full of folks who use bsd too, when the
application calls for it.

If your site has the bandwidth, or if you can setup a proxy, you might
want to consider using one of the woody minimal / net install iso's
that are out on the debian site - they are fast and easy to use too!

aloha,
dave

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> Our lug is having its first installfest this coming Saturday. What would
> be the best debian install for those who want it? Any chance of woody
> being officially released by then? 
> 
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Re: Deactivating swap ..... takes forever

[tvn1981]

> it is probably okay actually. after all, when you deactivate swap, all
> swap files have to be emptied and writting into memory.
> unfortunately, memory might not be able to hold it all, and swapping
> occurs. until all is swapped in, it takes a while.
> 

But it never get passed that stage ... so there must be something wrong,
and I tried to reboot (and swapoff -a) right after when the system just
get startups so the loading should be light. 

I tried swapoff -a and reboot with Debian's default 2.2 kernel (Woody)
and it turns swapoff immediately, no problem.

So I think there must be something wrong with the config ?  I checked
the changes log and my hardware should work okay with 2.4.





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Re: ntpdate troubles

[Jerome BENOIT]

Bill Benedetto wrote:

  Bill> (2) Did you use
  Bill> /etc/init.d/ntpdate start

  Jerome> at boot time

  Bill> or did you run ntpdate directly?

  Jerome> only to debug

  Bill> If you ran ntpdate directly, what machine did you tell
  Bill> ntpdate to use?  Something inside your building or something
  Bill> outside your building?

  Jerome> outside my building

Okay.  It works okay at boot time?


No !
It is why I debg it: I get exactly the samr message error in 
`/var/log/syslog'.





When you ran it by hand to debug it, the command looked something
like this, right?

  ntpdate -b REMOTE_MACHINE_NAME_GOES_HERE


without the -b , but with -d -v -B



That is, you did tell ntpdate the name of the machine that you
are ntpdate'ing against, right?

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Re: what to use for installfest this saturday?

[Greg C. Madden]

On Wed, 2002-06-19 at 10:55, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> Our lug is having its first installfest this coming Saturday. What would
> be the best debian install for those who want it? Any chance of woody
> being officially released by then? 

Woody, if you have the resources the DVD is very nice. You can create
the Woody DVD, it is an iso9660 fs, and mount it as a loop device. 
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Re: Woody install insists on using Potato packages

[Colin Watson]

On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 06:54:41PM -, Grant Edwards wrote:
> In muc.lists.debian.user, you wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 12:10:11AM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:
> >> The next thing I can't figure out is why dpkg is using "potato" packages 
> >> and
> >> apt-get is using "stable".  The "available" list in /var/lib/dpkg shows all
> >> packages are from potato, and apt-get's sources list is all stable.
> > 
> > It's a bit screwy ... but fortunately will be "fixed" by releasing. :)
> 
> So it's normal for an install done with woody floppies to use
> "stable" as the source for packages? 

Unfortunately so, as far as I know.

> > Try editing /etc/apt/sources.list to point to woody and then running
> > 'dselect update'.
> 
> I was about to edit sources.list and do apt-get update/upgrade
> last night, but wasn't sure it would do what I wanted.  Should
> I really use dselect isntead of apt-get?  I've never had much
> success with dselect in the past.

'dselect update' doesn't imply running dselect's full-screen interface.
It's just a layer over 'apt-get update' which also updates dpkg's
available file, and thus makes certain parts of the system behave more
consistently.

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Re: 2X CD's as emulated scsi

[Bob Underwood]

On Wednesday 19 June 2002 14:10, Helgi Örn wrote:
> Hello all!
>
> I got a CD-ROM and a CD-burner the ide-scsi module makes both of the
> drivers emulate as scsi, I don't want the CD-ROM to appear as emulated
> scsi driver how can I avoid that?
> I can't install the VMware tools because VMware doesn't accept emulated
> scsi drivers (if I've understood this right).
>
> All the best,
> Helgi Örn

in my /etc/modules, i have the following lines:
options ide-cd ignore=hdd
ide-scsi

hdd is my cd-burner.  works well for me.

hth,
bob


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what to use for installfest this saturday?

[Rick Pasotto]

Our lug is having its first installfest this coming Saturday. What would
be the best debian install for those who want it? Any chance of woody
being officially released by then? 

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Re: Woody install insists on using Potato packages

[Grant Edwards]

In muc.lists.debian.user, you wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 12:10:11AM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:

>> The next thing I can't figure out is why dpkg is using "potato" packages and
>> apt-get is using "stable".  The "available" list in /var/lib/dpkg shows all
>> packages are from potato, and apt-get's sources list is all stable.
> 
> It's a bit screwy ... but fortunately will be "fixed" by releasing. :)

So it's normal for an install done with woody floppies to use
"stable" as the source for packages? 

> Try editing /etc/apt/sources.list to point to woody and then running
> 'dselect update'.

I was about to edit sources.list and do apt-get update/upgrade
last night, but wasn't sure it would do what I wanted.  Should
I really use dselect isntead of apt-get?  I've never had much
success with dselect in the past.

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Re: ntpdate troubles

[Bill Benedetto]

  Bill> (2) Did you use
  Bill> /etc/init.d/ntpdate start

  Jerome> at boot time

  Bill> or did you run ntpdate directly?

  Jerome> only to debug

  Bill> If you ran ntpdate directly, what machine did you tell
  Bill> ntpdate to use?  Something inside your building or something
  Bill> outside your building?

  Jerome> outside my building

Okay.  It works okay at boot time?

When you ran it by hand to debug it, the command looked something
like this, right?

  ntpdate -b REMOTE_MACHINE_NAME_GOES_HERE

That is, you did tell ntpdate the name of the machine that you
are ntpdate'ing against, right?

- Bill
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2X CD's as emulated scsi

[Helgi Örn]

Hello all!

I got a CD-ROM and a CD-burner the ide-scsi module makes both of the
drivers emulate as scsi, I don't want the CD-ROM to appear as emulated
scsi driver how can I avoid that?
I can't install the VMware tools because VMware doesn't accept emulated
scsi drivers (if I've understood this right).

All the best,
Helgi Örn

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RE: Need to compile gphoto2 from CVS and install into packaging

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On 19-Jun-2002 David Richmond wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> Having just switched to Debian (woody) from SuSE 7.3, I recall that, under 
> SuSE, I had to download and compile the CVS snapshot of the gphoto2 digital 
> camera library to get my Canon PowerShot A40 digital camera recognizable 
> under Linux.  The version of gphoto2 that ships with SuSE 7.3 was an older 
> one that did not support the A40.  The version of gphoto2 in woody, not 
> surprisingly, also does not include support for the A40.  The version in 
> unstable doesn't either.
> 
> How can I download the gphoto2 source from CVS (cvs.gphoto.sourceforge.net), 
> compile, and debianize it so that it can then be installed by the packaging 
> system?
> 
> Thanks!
> 

apt-get source gphoto2
then grab the source from the upstream.  Untar the new source, copy the debian/
dir over.  Edit debian/changelog to reflect the new version number.  Then do
dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc.


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Re: ntpdate troubles

[Jerome BENOIT]

Thanks for your answers

Bill Benedetto wrote:

Jerome BENOIT writes:




  Jerome> since a while I have troubles with `ntpdate':
  Jerome> I get the message
  Jerome>
  Jerome> "no server suitable for synchronization found"
  Jerome>
  Jerome> when lauching with no option.
  Jerome>
  Jerome> But when I add the option "-q" or "-d" everythings look right:
  Jerome>
  Jerome> I quess I have missed something,
  Jerome> but I do not know what.
  Jerome>
  Jerome> Any idea ?

(1) You know that ntpdate just sets the date, one time, against
another machine via NTP, right?


Yup !



(2) Did you use
 /etc/init.d/ntpdate start


at boot time



or did you run ntpdate directly?



only to debug


If you ran ntpdate directly, what machine did you tell
ntpdate to use?  Something inside your building or something
outside your building?



outside my building




So many questions.  So little time.

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Re: ensoniq 5880 kernel support

[Jan Groenewald]

On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 02:02:43PM -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
> 00:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02)
> the nearest option in the xconfig menu is the support for Ensoniq Audio
> PCI (ES1370), so I compiled this one into the kernel. But I am afraid
> that this is not the correct option, because I can't get sound even
> playing  gtcd as root... any suggestion will be very welcome!
Marcelo,

I also have ensoniq, though much older, sb is very good at
detecting them, sound-HOWTO got me through it in a few
minutes. try $insmod sb. or $modconf and remove that ES1270.

hope it helps,
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Re: ntpdate troubles

[Bill Benedetto]

>>> Jerome BENOIT writes:

  Jerome> since a while I have troubles with `ntpdate':
  Jerome> I get the message
  Jerome>
  Jerome> "no server suitable for synchronization found"
  Jerome>
  Jerome> when lauching with no option.
  Jerome>
  Jerome> But when I add the option "-q" or "-d" everythings look right:
  Jerome>
  Jerome> I quess I have missed something,
  Jerome> but I do not know what.
  Jerome>
  Jerome> Any idea ?

(1) You know that ntpdate just sets the date, one time, against
another machine via NTP, right?

(2) Did you use
 /etc/init.d/ntpdate start
or did you run ntpdate directly?

If you ran ntpdate directly, what machine did you tell
ntpdate to use?  Something inside your building or something
outside your building?

So many questions.  So little time.

- Bill
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Need to compile gphoto2 from CVS and install into packaging system

[David Richmond]

Hello!

Having just switched to Debian (woody) from SuSE 7.3, I recall that, under 
SuSE, I had to download and compile the CVS snapshot of the gphoto2 digital 
camera library to get my Canon PowerShot A40 digital camera recognizable 
under Linux.  The version of gphoto2 that ships with SuSE 7.3 was an older 
one that did not support the A40.  The version of gphoto2 in woody, not 
surprisingly, also does not include support for the A40.  The version in 
unstable doesn't either.

How can I download the gphoto2 source from CVS (cvs.gphoto.sourceforge.net), 
compile, and debianize it so that it can then be installed by the packaging 
system?

Thanks!

David Richmond
Beaverton, OR
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SOLVED: Soltek sl-75drv4 dma problems....

[D.J. Bolderman]

On Wed, 2002-06-19 at 18:45, D.J. Bolderman wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-06-19 at 17:21, Matthias Ellinger wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> > 
> > On Wednesday 19 June 2002 17:13, D.J. Bolderman wrote:
> > > Does anybody have a clue how to fix this ?
> > >
> > > The board uses a VIA Apollo KT266A chipset.
> > 
> > Try this:
> > 
> > in lilo.conf, insert the line 
> > "append ide0=ata66", run lilo and reboot
> > 
> > UDMA100 should work now, you can use hdparm to fine-tune the disks 
> > performance.
> 
> Ok, did that, but my dmesg shows this:
> 
> 
> 
> ide_setup: ide0=ata66
> 
> 
> 
> VP_IDE: chipset revision 6
> VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
> VP_IDE: Unknown VIA SouthBridge, contact Vojtech Pavlik
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> VP_IDE: ATA-66/100 forced bit set (WARNING)!!
> 
> 
> So it finds an unknown via southbridge... maybe this is the problem ?
> Anyway, I still can't enable dma with hdparm...

Ok people, my problem is solved: I installed the prepatch 2.4.19-pre10
and now it get a much fast througput +/- 39mb/sec :)

Regards
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Re: Connecting to Network..

[Nicholas Parsons]

Hi all,

I have a similar problem as Matt.
The only difference with me is that I forgot my ethernet card was smc
and so bypassed the network configuration screen during installation
process of debian.  My question is:  Do I just have to insmod the correct
ethernet card driver into my running kernel (I'm using 2.2.x kernel)
to setup my network?  Following this I would need a way to configure
DHCP so I could connect to net via my cable modem.  Is there a script
that does this setup?  Thanks for your help on this in advance :-)

If you (Matt) selected your ethernet device from the list and everything 
went

ok then you should have seen a option for configuring your card (ie use DHCP
or provide your own IP address).  If you didn't see this option then perhaps
you picked the wrong device from the menu.  In either case you would only
use PPP for dial-up connections to the internet.

~~Nick



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I got Debian installed through through the net install version, but it never 
connected me to the network.


There was a point at which it asked me if I wanted to setup a point-to-point 
connection, but I just want to connect to the network and the gateway server 
for Internet.  So I said "No" and no other options arose for connecting to 
the Internet.


This also means that I now have a very basic install and cannot apt-get 
anything over the Internet, as I was hoping to do.


Should I have said yes to a PPP connection?!  Do I now have to set this up 
manually or is there a utility?


Matthew





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Re: ntpdate troubles (fwd)

[Alvin Oga]

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 11:10:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ntpdate troubles


hi ya

i think you are outside the range of ntpdate to fix


it will only allow a few second difference... and will give
up sync'ing if you're outside the range...

i usually manually reset the time to within a few seconds
and than try to get ntpdate to sync then use ntpd

> 
> ntpdate -d -v ntp.apple.com

> 19 Jun 20:01:52 ntpdate[1490]: step time server 17.254.0.31 offset 
> 76.316911 sec


76 is too much differences ??


have fun
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Re: Ifconfig !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Francisco M Neto]

» Assim falou Elcio Mello em Sun, Jun 16, 2002 at 10:40:31PM -0300:

> Não tem a necessidade de instalar o dhcpd, a não ser que a máquina seja 
> servidor de dhcp para sua rede interna.

A saber: dhcpcd != dhcpd.
dhcpcd é o cliente, dhcpd é o servidor.

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Re: Can't get audio to work

[G. L. `Griz' Inabnit]

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On Tuesday 18 June 2002 08:25 pm, Glen Lee Edwards wrote:
> > > in effigy.  They won't blame Red Hat.  After all, it was my
> > > decision to upgrade to 7.3.  Not Red Hat's.
> >
> > Glen, could I interest you in  apt-rpm  ?? It's a rather sweet
> > package for your RH boxes.
>
> No.  Downloading the rpms isn't the problem.  The constant upgrades are.
> I need a stable operating system that allows me to upgrade individual
> packages instead of requiring that I upgrade the whole box.  Red Hat
> clearly doesn't meet that requirement.  Red Hat's problem is that
> they've gone commercial.  In order to remain financially viable they
> now *have* to regularly put out upgrades.
>
> I have all the new 7.3 rpms on the hard drive.  Some installed.  Some
> won't.  So have have a part 7.2, part 7.3 box with a lot of broken
> programs.

That's why I chimed in. Using apt-rpm, you can use all the commands 
you've
grown comfy with in Debian.  (e.g. apt-get update && apt-get upgrade,
apt-cache search {keyword}, etc) And the upgrades/updates are sweet. There
now are a number of new apt-rpm sites popping up (including /.) Here's a url
to wander thru..
http://apt-rpm.tuxfamily.org/

And for those wondering, NO! I DON'T WEAR THE HAT!! :--)  I just support
linux wherever/whenever I can. :--)

>
> > Ouch! But, you DO have help. :--)  My only request is "Purdy
> > Please!, no html mail"
>
> If I'm sending out html mail it's not by intent.

:--)  Yer not, it's just that I've run into a couple of folks that used
'another box' and hotmail (or the likes) to write me while actually werking
on thier linux box. :--)  Yer fine!

>
> > lspci shows that yes, you DO have the sound chip on your motherboard
> > and 'accessable". That's all. :--)  So, let's see. Can you look at
> > "dmesg | less"   and see if you can see what it says about the
> > initialization? THIS is where you'll see if the chipset was actually
> > activated.
>
> I see no reference in dmesg to anything audio, nor to IRQ 11, which is
> where lspci -vv says audio is located.

Then, somehow/someway the audio chip is STILL not being seen. There is
another thread running now about having to use the alsa drivers on the AC'97,
is this the same chipset you're calling? (it's early in my day and i don't
recall right now)

>
> Glen

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Re: Kernel Panic - ext2 vs cramfs

[curtis]

Anthony DeRobertis wrote:


On Tue, 2002-06-18 at 18:54, curtis wrote:


Now, on my personal computer after updating to 2.4.xx, I made the same




changes, but I notices that during the boot there is a line entry:
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem)



Look closer. There should be at least two VFS lines. For example, from a
server I built yesterday:

cvs:~# dmesg | grep VFS
VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.4.0 initialized
VFS: Mounted root (cramfs filesystem).
VFS: Mounted root (ext3 filesystem) readonly.

This machine uses ext3; but the same holds for ext2.

Yeh, you're right. Actually I realized that later when I looked at 
another machine that I had also successfully upgraded.

Nonetheless, it still doesn't resolve my problem.


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[Fwd: Re: ntpdate troubles]

[Jerome BENOIT]

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: ntpdate troubles
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 20:03:29 +0300
From: Jerome BENOIT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
References: 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>




Alvin Oga wrote:
> hi ya
>
> is ntpd also running while you manually invoke ntpdate ??
>( you have to kill ntpd first )
no


>
> what does ntpdate -v ntp.foo.com give you ??
>- should give lots of info  if it connected
>
>( i pick on ntp.apple.com since they're up the street )
>

I get  exactly the same thing:

if I try

ntpdate -d -v ntp.apple.com

I get

 >>
19 Jun 20:01:51 ntpdate[1490]: ntpdate 4.0.99g Thu Apr  5 22:38:32 EDT
2001 (1)
transmit(17.254.0.31)
receive(17.254.0.31)
transmit(17.254.0.31)
receive(17.254.0.31)
transmit(17.254.0.31)
receive(17.254.0.31)
transmit(17.254.0.31)
receive(17.254.0.31)
transmit(17.254.0.31)
server 17.254.0.31, port 123
stratum 2, precision -14, leap 00, trust 000
refid [17.254.0.49], delay 0.28799, dispersion 0.00087
transmitted 4, in filter 4
reference time:c0bb3757.bb0c88a4  Wed, Jun 19 2002 20:01:11.730
originate timestamp: c0bb37cd.2c18e757  Wed, Jun 19 2002 20:03:09.172
transmit timestamp:  c0bb3780.b944bb1a  Wed, Jun 19 2002 20:01:52.723
filter delay:  0.28799  0.29434  0.30397  0.28821
  0.0  0.0  0.0  0.0
filter offset: 76.31691 76.31817 76.32063 76.31715
  0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
delay 0.28799, dispersion 0.00087
offset 76.316911

19 Jun 20:01:52 ntpdate[1490]: step time server 17.254.0.31 offset
76.316911 sec
<


> sample ntp testing commands options
>http://www.Linux-Consulting.com/NTP/NTP.Commands.txt
>
> c ya
> alvin
>
> eg...
>
> ntpdate -v ntp.apple.com
> 19 Jun 09:49:57 ntpdate[30810]: ntpdate 3-5.93 Sun May 10 16:52:03 EDT
> 1998 (1)
> 19 Jun 09:49:59 ntpdate[30810]: step time server 17.254.0.31 offset
> 0.834560 sec
>- its a little off eh ??...
>
>
> On Wed, 19 Jun 2002, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
>
>
>>Bonjour,
>>
>>since a while I have troubles with `ntpdate':
>>I get the message
>>
>>"no server suitable for synchronization found"
>>
>>when lauching with no option.
>>
>>But when I add the option "-q" or "-d" everythings look right:
>>
>>I quess I have missed something,
>>but I do not know what.
>>
>
>
>


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Connecting to Network..

[Matthew Tedder]

I got Debian installed through through the net install version, but it never 
connected me to the network.

There was a point at which it asked me if I wanted to setup a point-to-point 
connection, but I just want to connect to the network and the gateway server 
for Internet.  So I said "No" and no other options arose for connecting to 
the Internet.

This also means that I now have a very basic install and cannot apt-get 
anything over the Internet, as I was hoping to do.

Should I have said yes to a PPP connection?!  Do I now have to set this up 
manually or is there a utility?

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Re: How to report a Bug (Which Package?)

[Steve Juranich]

> As suggested in http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting ; I am
> sending this to "debian-user".

This is a good place to hang out for Debian users of all levels.  I encourage 
you to stick around.

> I have just installed woody from scratch (due to trying ext3fs);
> and then I run "tasksel". I selected "X11"; and then choose
> "kdm" out of "xdm", "gdm", and "kdm".
> 
> Apparently, it installs everything, unfortunately it does not
> like to install "gdm" (dpkg error code 1). Fortunetely, everything
> works fine after rerunning the installation process. As a 
> matter of fact, this is the first time ever, I have managed
> automatically to install the X11 server (I used to configure
> it manually).

Erm, do you mean 'kdm' in the second paragraph, otherwise I'm confused.  
Unfortunately, just getting the exit code is not really enough to diagnose the 
problem.  Apt is normally pretty good about spitting out useful error messages 
when it dies.  What error messages do you see?

> Question:
> - whoose bug is that?

Well, again, without having more useful error messages, it's difficult to 
tell.  Maybe you tried running apt-get as a normal user, maybe the package is 
broken, maybe there was just too much bad mojo in the room when you tried the 
install.

> - how to report it?

The best way I've found to report bugs is to first of all do 'apt-get install 
reportbug'.  Then when you think you've found a bug in (for instance) kdm, you 
would type 'reportbug kdm'.  You'll want to read the man page for reportbug as 
there are a couple of environment variables you'll want to set.  But it is a 
very nice way to file new bugs.

HTH

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Need advice on best SMP mainboard for Debian

[John Foster]

I have decided to build a new workstation and am asking for users input
as to the best mainboard for the money available. I can go pretty much
any direction i.e. AMD,Intel or possibly Alpha but I do not have any
experience with Alpha. I am seriously considering the Tyan S2460 Dual
AMD board. Any comments are appreciated. If you feel this is off topic
please reply anyway off the list. Thanks!
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Re: SOLVED! Re: Letting users look at a read-only FS

[Pollywog]

On Wed, 19 Jun 2002 10:00:21 -0700
"Steve Juranich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks Travis and Dale.  The umask argument did the trick.  I changed it to
> 000 instead of 007, because I didn't want to have to fiddle around with group 
> ownerships as well.
> 
> Now to get wine working. I'd like to play Magic: The Gathering online without 
> having to boot windoze. ;)

You might check these out, in order to find out how to run stuff on WINE:

http://www.winecentric.com/

http://www.winecentric.com/wiki/


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ensoniq 5880 kernel support

[Marcelo Chiapparini]

Hello!

I've compiled a new 2.4.18 kernel for my woody system. However, the
sound system doesn't work. The installed sound card, as showed by the
lspci command, is:

00:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02)

the nearest option in the xconfig menu is the support for Ensoniq Audio
PCI (ES1370), so I compiled this one into the kernel. But I am afraid
that this is not the correct option, because I can't get sound even
playing  gtcd as root... any suggestion will be very welcome!

TIA

Marcelo
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SOLVED! Re: Letting users look at a read-only FS

[Steve Juranich]

Thanks Travis and Dale.  The umask argument did the trick.  I changed it to
000 instead of 007, because I didn't want to have to fiddle around with group 
ownerships as well.

Now to get wine working. I'd like to play Magic: The Gathering online without 
having to boot windoze. ;)

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aptitude vs. dselect

[Vineet Kumar]

Hi,

I'd heard that it's better to use "dselect update" than "apt-get update"
because the former also updates dpkg's available database (which seems
to me is pretty important).

I've started using aptitude, but have gotten myself in the habit of
running "deslect update", and wonder if this is still necessary? Given
that the aptitude man page says that aptitude's update is "equivalent to
apt-get update", I'm guessing that I should continue with "dselect
update" as I've been doing. 

Can anyone with some more knowledge confirm or deny that? I did download
the source, but (as the comment says) that particular section is a
little hairy, and so I thought I'd ask here if anyone knows off-hand
before getting myself tangled up in the inner workings of apt.

Thanks.
good times,
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Re: DMA errors on hard drive, but why?

[James Green]

On Monday 17 June 2002 12:44 am, Rick Commo wrote:
[ large snip ]
> So... Before you used the caddies, were you running a 40 wire or 80 wire
> (40 signal/ground pairs) cable?  I would then wonder how adding a caddy
> might affect the ground return paths for the signals.  The problem could
> potentially lie there.  You need to ask this question, "will the caddy
> support ATA66 and faster drives?".

AFAIK the cable is 80 wire. The caddies support ATA100 and drives up to 
10,000RPM.

James.


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Re: Can't get audio to work

[Steve Juranich]

Since you're having to rebuild your kernel, check out the reference docs at 
http://www.alsa-project.org.  If memory serves, you'll need to build the alsa 
modules as part of your kernel build.

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Re: Solutions for booting dual OS (separate HDs)

[Andrew Biggadike]

Regarding your third question, there's a mini HOWTO on how to use the NT
loader to boot Linux that still applies to Win 2k: 
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/Linux+NT-Loader.html

>From reading this, I have been able to use the NT loader to boot Debian
on a different partition -- I'm not sure if having them on separate
drives would complicate the matter.  If you already have things
installed then I think it would be sufficient to follow sections 5 and
6.

There's another one (http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/Linux+WinNT.html),
which I haven't read, that you may find helpful as well.

Andrew

On Wed, 2002-06-19 at 07:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am still booting from floppy and it takes ages so I look for help:
> 
> I have hda with win2k on it. Boots if no cd-rom or floppies in drives.
> 
> And then there is the hdb with debian. Boots from floppy (loads the kernel
> etcetc from floppy).
> 
> So yes these are separate HD's.
> 
> Now from previous experience I *know* that win2k is quite 'sensitive' when it
> comes to booting. I tried boot manager called GAG earlier, but managed on
> multiple attempts to lose the Master Boot Record to Win2k and had to reinstall
> from backup images... So no luck.
> 
> AFAIK lilo will also overwrite win2k boot manager in a way that will make
> poor little win sulk and not ever be found again. So answer to any of the
> three below will solve my problems, II. or III. being more robust I suppose.
> 
> I. 
> How do I make an boot disk for the hdb/debian so that it only boots from 
> the floppy, but loads kernel etc from HD?
> 
> II. 
> Is there such a thing as relatively foolproof and simple way (aside from
> BIOS ;) ) to install an boot manager that does not touch/corrupt/overwrite the
> Win2k? Any links and experiences welcome.
> 
> III. 
> Now as I write this I started to wonder if it would be possible to
> add the lead to linux boot record into windows BOOT.INI ? For win2k boot.ini
> says:
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000 
> Professional" /fastdetect
> Anyone ever try it 'the windows way'?
> 
> Well any help much appreciated,
> 
> Jani
> 
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Re: ntpdate troubles

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya

is ntpd also running while you manually invoke ntpdate ??
( you have to kill ntpd first )

what does ntpdate -v ntp.foo.com give you ??
- should give lots of info  if it connected

( i pick on ntp.apple.com since they're up the street )

sample ntp testing commands options
http://www.Linux-Consulting.com/NTP/NTP.Commands.txt

c ya
alvin

eg...

ntpdate -v ntp.apple.com
19 Jun 09:49:57 ntpdate[30810]: ntpdate 3-5.93 Sun May 10 16:52:03 EDT
1998 (1)
19 Jun 09:49:59 ntpdate[30810]: step time server 17.254.0.31 offset
0.834560 sec
- its a little off eh ??...


On Wed, 19 Jun 2002, Jerome BENOIT wrote:

> Bonjour,
> 
> since a while I have troubles with `ntpdate':
> I get the message
> 
> "no server suitable for synchronization found"
> 
> when lauching with no option.
> 
> But when I add the option "-q" or "-d" everythings look right:
> 
> I quess I have missed something,
> but I do not know what.
> 


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Re: Solutions for booting dual OS (separate HDs)

[Alex Malinovich]

On Wed, 2002-06-19 at 06:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


> AFAIK lilo will also overwrite win2k boot manager in a way that will make
> poor little win sulk and not ever be found again. So answer to any of the
> three below will solve my problems, II. or III. being more robust I suppose.


Not entirely true. LILO will overwrite the w2k boot manager, but you can
still boot into w2k using LILO. You can just set up LILO to be your
primary boot manager and boot into Linux or w2k. In your /etc/lilo.conf
just add:

other=/dev/hda1 (assuming w2k is on disk a, partition 1)
label=W2K

> Is there such a thing as relatively foolproof and simple way (aside from
> BIOS ;) ) to install an boot manager that does not touch/corrupt/overwrite the
> Win2k? Any links and experiences welcome.
> 
> III. 
> Now as I write this I started to wonder if it would be possible to
> add the lead to linux boot record into windows BOOT.INI ? For win2k boot.ini
> says:
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000 
> Professional" /fastdetect
> Anyone ever try it 'the windows way'?

This is how I USED to do things, but as I found myself using Linux more
and more and Windows less and less I did the above. If you want to do
this, you can set up the NT bootloader to load LILO which will, in turn,
load Linux.

If you want a link, here it is:
http://www.google.com/search?q=win2k+linux+boot+dd

Otherwise, for the "quick and dirty" instructions:

Make sure that you DO NOT install LILO into the MBR. If possible, make
sure that your W2K boot partition is FAT32. Compile in VFAT support into
your Linux kernel. Mount your W2K partition (for this example we'll
mount it on /w2k). Assuming that your Linux partition is /dev/hdb1
(change as appropriate below)

dd if=/dev/hdb1 bs=512 count=1 of=/w2k/linux.bin

Then open up your /w2k/boot.ini and add a line such as:

c:\linux.bin="Debian"

Now, if your W2K partition HAS to be NTFS (mine did because I was
concerned about at least pretending that my stuff in w2k was secure :),
then you won't be able to do it so easily. If you have a FAT32 parition
available somewhere then mount it, put linux.bin on it, boot into w2k,
and then copy linux.bin to your c: drive.

Keep in mind that anytime you have to re-run LILO (e.g. after a kernel
update) you'll have to redo the dd above. If your w2k boot partition
isn't FAT32 (like mine wasn't) you'll see why the first LILO-based
alternative is a much better idea IMHO. :) Good luck.

-Alex





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Re: building Postgresql

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 10:40:28AM -0600, Jorge Santos wrote:
| Derrick 'dman' Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| > On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 09:43:28PM -0600, Jorge Santos wrote:

| > I would start over with a clean 'apt-get source', then next time if
| > you want to restart the build, first remove the patch command from
| > 'debian/rules'.  You can only apply a patch once (think about it).
| 
| Well, since I said no to both questions I guess I can still remove the
| patch command and restart the build, I guess I would be fine, wouldn't
| I?

If the patch has been applied cleanly, yes.  I find it easier to reget
the source than to check that the patch was applied cleanly.

-D

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Re: Soltek sl-75drv4 dma problems....

[D.J. Bolderman]

On Wed, 2002-06-19 at 17:21, Matthias Ellinger wrote:
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> On Wednesday 19 June 2002 17:13, D.J. Bolderman wrote:
> > Does anybody have a clue how to fix this ?
> >
> > The board uses a VIA Apollo KT266A chipset.
> 
> Try this:
> 
> in lilo.conf, insert the line 
> "append ide0=ata66", run lilo and reboot
> 
> UDMA100 should work now, you can use hdparm to fine-tune the disks 
> performance.

Ok, did that, but my dmesg shows this:



ide_setup: ide0=ata66



VP_IDE: chipset revision 6
VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
VP_IDE: Unknown VIA SouthBridge, contact Vojtech Pavlik
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
VP_IDE: ATA-66/100 forced bit set (WARNING)!!


So it finds an unknown via southbridge... maybe this is the problem ?
Anyway, I still can't enable dma with hdparm...

Thanks,
Dick






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Re: SCSI parity errors

[Sebastiaan]

Hi,

On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, Thomas Good wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Jun 2002, Sebastiaan wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have a problem with my SCSI harddisk/controller which occurs more often
> > lately. The errors have the form:
> >
> > (scsi0:A:1:0): parity error detected in Data-in phase. SEQADDR(0x7c) 
> > SCSIRATE(0x88)
> >
> > and are repeatedly printed in the system logs, until the partitions are
> > mounted read-only.
> >
> >
> > Usually I have to turn off the computer, press on the SCSI-card (I still
> > have the idea that the card is literally broken, but unsure if this is the
>
> Hallo Sebastiaan,
>
> If pressing on the card is helpful why not clean the contacts with a
> pencil eraser?  I've done this cheap trick before.  Maybe when you press
> on the card it scrapes the contacts enough to get a good connection for
> awhile???  Maybe try a diff PCI slot?
>
Hmm, yes. I have cleaned the slot with some contact spray. I have not
tried to put the card into a different slot, since due to bad architecture
of my motherboard, I only have to PCI slots where the card can be put in.

I hope that it will work better now.



> This is an ultra wide card (2940UW) yes?
> I use the same card with a Quantum Atlas II (XP32275W) with no problems.
> (Wide SCSI [ non LVD ] connector going to the hdd)
>
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Sebastiaan
>
Thanks!

Sebastiaan

> Good luck!  (Tot straks!)
:^)

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ntpdate troubles

[Jerome BENOIT]

Bonjour,

since a while I have troubles with `ntpdate':
I get the message

"no server suitable for synchronization found"

when lauching with no option.

But when I add the option "-q" or "-d" everythings look right:

I quess I have missed something,
but I do not know what.

Any idea ?

Thanks in advance,
Jerome BENOIT
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Re: What is happening to testing/unstable?

[Colin Watson]

On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 03:59:30PM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> For some time now I have had nothing new from testing; I assumed this
> was because of the freeze. However, the same seems to be happening with
> unstable. I do an "apt-get update" and get the list of packages, but
> nothing is scheduled to be upgraded. I mean that "apt-get -s
> dist-upgrade" shows nothing to be done, which seems odd.

Unstable is still moving; it's just a bit slow at the moment. I think a
lot of maintainers are either taking something of a break until woody is
released or working on big time-consuming changes that they had to put
off until after the freeze. I know I'm doing a bit of both.

> I also tried a specific upgrade to the new version of mozilla (1.0.0)
> which is listed in unstable but was told that my version (from testing)
> was the latest, which it isn't.

Sounds like a buggy apt preferences file, assuming that that's what
you're using.

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Re: bash login script problems...

[Colin Watson]

On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 04:50:14PM +0200, Ivo Wever wrote:
> Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
> >When you run a script in a subshell, it can modify the environment of
> >that subshell, then that subshell terminates (when the script is done)
> >and you get the prompt from your original shell again.  Unlike MS-DOS,
> >scripts normally run in subshells and can't wreak havoc on your
> >environment.  If you want to run the script in the current shell, use
> >one of the following commands :
> >. ./.bash_profile
> >source ./.bash_profile
> 
> Isn't this (changing $PATH from a script) what the 'export' command is
> for?

Unfortunately not. 'export' makes variables visible to subprocesses of a
script, but not to the parent process (in other words, the shell from
which you called that script).

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Re: Backup utilities

[Jorge Santos]

Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> [...]
> 
> 
> On Wed, 19 Jun 2002, Nicos Gollan wrote:
> 
> > On Wednesday 19 June 2002 06:00, Jorge Santos wrote:
> > > [...]
> > 
> > [...]
> 

Thanks to all,  I'll think I'll go with one of the scripts from
linux-backup.net, I knew I would be reinventing the wheel if I put
something togheter myself.

Regards,

Jorge Santos


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Re: building Postgresql

[Jorge Santos]

Derrick 'dman' Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 09:43:28PM -0600, Jorge Santos wrote:
> | So, I was building postgresql from source (via debian/rules build)
> | when it failed due to a missing header file, so I apt-got the package
> | which contained the file reran the build and got the following:
> | 
> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] debian/rules build
> 
> | cat patches/* | patch -p0
> | patching file src/pl/plpgsql/src/pl_funcs.c
> | Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R? [n] 
> | Apply anyway? [n] 
> | Skipping patch.
> | 2 out of 2 hunks ignored -- saving rejects to file 
> src/pl/plpgsql/src/pl_funcs.c.rej
> | make: *** [build-stamp] Error 1
> 
> | What should I do here?
> 
> I would start over with a clean 'apt-get source', then next time if
> you want to restart the build, first remove the patch command from
> 'debian/rules'.  You can only apply a patch once (think about it).

Well, since I said no to both questions I guess I can still remove the
patch command and restart the build, I guess I would be fine, wouldn't
I?

Regards,

Jorge Santos


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