mlterm problem

[Cristi Banciu]

Hi,

I installed the latest mlterm.deb from unstable and when I tried to
execute it it says: mlterm: relocation error: mlterm: undefined symbol:
fribidi_get_type... I tried to downgrade from unstable to testing or
stable, but I still get the same error. Any idea where is the error ?

Sorry if I am mailing to the wrong list!




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swap confusion

[Joerg Johannes]

Hi list

I have just watched my system booting and noticed that my two
swap-partitions have different priorities:

Sep  1 18:30:12 blaubaer kernel: Adding Swap: 530104k swap-space (priority -1)
Sep  1 18:30:12 blaubaer kernel: Adding Swap: 530136k swap-space (priority -2)

As they reside on two different hard drives, it might be smarter to have
them both at the same priority, as they will be used "on a round-robin
basis" (from swapon(2) ). So let's go ahead and set the priority in
/etc/fstab with pri=PRIORITY, but wait... the man page tells me that
swap priority can have any non-negative value, but the above kern.log
tells me both partitions have a negative value. Could someone please
enlighten me what this is all about?

thanks
joerg

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Re: Help me!! Kernel Panic!!

[Osamu Aoki]

On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 09:41:04AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> Jerome Acks Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 11:52:55PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> 
> >> This should not be necessary.  In fact, it's probably a bug if your
> >> box doesn't work without it.
> > 
> > Is your statement in reference to putting the root file system module in
> > /etc/mkinitrd/modules or, putting "jbd" in /etc/mkinitrd/modules?
> 
> Both, in fact, if you have to touch /etc/mkinitrd at all, it either means
> that you've got a very esoteric setup (e.g., NFS root), or that there is
> a bug in initrd-tools

I used to need to put "ext3" before "ext2" in /etc/mkinitrd/modules.
Then who was talking... he must be right.  Now I know a related bug was
closed recently.

  http://bugs.debian.org/135537

Time to update it :)

Version: 0.1.26
 Distribution: unstable
 Urgency: low
 Maintainer: Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
...
 Changes:
  initrd-tools (0.1.26) unstable; urgency=low
* Added recursive probing for RAID.
* Handle errors within cpio pipeline (closes: #148061).
* Allow initrd image with no modules (closes: #151386).
* Only mount /proc if mounts is not there (closes: #151318).
* Improved error message for unknown root devices (closes: #154712).
* Use pivot_root (closes: #135537).

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RE: Xfree86 problems with woody (MORE INFO)

[Travis Troyer]

>From the message I received back from the list, I guess my attachment 
was stripped from the message, so I'm including my log file in this 
message.  Sorry for any inconvenience.

XFree86.0.log:



This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any
way.  Bugs may be reported to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and patches submitted
to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions,
please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository
(http://www.XFree86.Org/cvs)

XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510)
Release Date: 21 December 2001
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.17 i686 [ELF] 
Module Loader present
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Mon Sep  2 01:03:46 2002
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4"
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) ServerLayout "Default Layout"
(**) |-->Screen "Default Screen" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Generic Monitor"
(**) |   |-->Device "Generic Video Card"
(**) |-->Input Device "Generic Keyboard"
(**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
(**) XKB: rules: "xfree86"
(**) Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
(**) XKB: model: "pc104"
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "us"
(**) XKB: layout: "us"
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) |-->Input Device "Configured Mouse"
(**) |-->Input Device "Generic Mouse"
(WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(**) FontPath set to
"unix/:7100,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/lib/X11
/fonts/Speedo,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
(==) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
(--) using VT number 7

(WW) Cannot open APM
(II) Module ABI versions:
XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1
XFree86 Video Driver: 0.4
XFree86 XInput driver : 0.2
XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1
XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.2
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: "bitmap"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4
(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x, mode1Res1 = 0x8000
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,2530 card , rev 02 class 06,00,00
hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 8086,2532 card , rev 02 class 06,04,00
hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:1e:0: chip 8086,244e card , rev 04 class 06,04,00
hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:1f:0: chip 8086,2440 card , rev 04 class 06,01,00
hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:1f:1: chip 8086,244b card 8086,4732 rev 04 class 01,01,80
hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1f:2: chip 8086,2442 card 8086,4732 rev 04 class 0c,03,00
hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1f:3: chip 8086,2443 card 8086,4732 rev 04 class 0c,05,00
hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1f:4: chip 8086,2444 card 8086,4732 rev 04 class 0c,03,00
hdr 00
(II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 10de,0110 card , rev b2 class 03,00,00
hdr 00
(II) PCI: 02:0a:0: chip 12eb,0002 card 1092,3002 rev fe class 04,01,00
hdr 00
(II) PCI: 02:0c:0: chip 10b7,9200 card 10b7,1000 rev 74 class 02,00,00
hdr 00
(II) PCI: 02:0d:0: chip 14f1,1033 card 1092,0abe rev 08 class 07,80,00
hdr 00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) LoadModule: "scanpci"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Module scanpci: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4
(II) UnloadModule: "scanpci"
(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (-1,0,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
[0] -1 00x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 00x - 0x (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 00x - 0x (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x0a (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 1 I/O range:
(II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range:
  

Xfree86 problems with woody

[Travis Troyer]

I have recently installed Debian
3.0r0, along with xfree86.  I have
run startx,

specifying all the
correct information, yet still cannot get it to run.  I have 

tried going back
and using various different settings, like lower resolutions 

and such, but
with no luck. Though I have enough experience with 

FreeBSD and Linux
to get around, I am a newbie, and have no idea where 

to go from here to
get it running.  I have been
searching various site for info,

but with no
luck.

 

Here are some system specs, in case it helps:

Pentium 4 1.4GHz

Intel D850GB board

Nvdia geForce 2 MX 400 64MB

 

I’ve also attached my XFree86.0.log with this
e-mail.  I can provide 

anymore information
at request.  I hope somebody can at least
point 

me in the right
direction.

 

-travis troyer








XFree86.0.log
Description: Binary data

USB HDD - HD 530

[Jsahambi]

  I have a ARGOSY HD 530 (USB hard disk). Can anybody tell me how to
  interface and mount it in debain?
  Thanking in advance
  J S Sahambi




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USB HDD HD 530

[Jsahambi]

I have a ARGOSY HD 530 (USB hard disk). Can anybody tell me how to
interface and mount it in debain?
Thanking in advance
J S Sahambi
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make menuconfig

[Russell]

Hi,

When i do:

debpc:/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18# make menuconfig

then i get a screen without any submenus. I just get:

---
Load an alternate configuration file
Save configuration to an alternate file

No amount of key-pressing brings any more options.


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script to search ebay?

[Lance Hoffmeyer]

Anyone have any idea how I can create a script that will search
ebay and put the results in a text file?

I thought of starting with links

links http://search.ebay.de/search/search.dll?MfcISAPI
Command=GetResult&query=Fernandez

but for some reason this puts links in the background and does not search.
It just goes to the search page?

Lance

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Re: XMMS and the new MP3 patent terms

[John Hasler]

Isaac quotes:
> 7. If, as a consequence of a court judgment or allegation of patent
> infringement or for any other reason (not limited to patent issues),
> conditions are imposed on you...
 ^^

And writes:
> Well, perhaps Thomson didn't have made the "allegation" yet, but that's
> the idea.

No conditions have been imposed on Debian.  Until a registered letter
from Thomson's lawyers arrives GPLd mp3 stuff can go in non-free.
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Re: XMMS and the new MP3 patent terms

[Isaac To]

> "David" == David Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

David> But Debian does encourgage people to sell CD-ROMs of whatever is
David> not in non-free. If someone were to include an MP3 player on a
David> Debian CD-ROM and sell it, that person would be violating the MP3
David> licensing terms. As a courtesy to those who sell Debian CD's, and
David> to avoid any possibility of being charged as an accessory to
David> patent infringement, Debian should put MP3 players into non-free
David> and remind people not to sell CD-ROMs of that archive.

Except that GPL'ed programs must not have such problematic patents problem.
The general discussion of GPL says this:

  Finally, any free program is threatened constantly by software patents.
  We wish to avoid the danger that redistributors of a free program will
  individually obtain patent licenses, in effect making the program
  proprietary.  To prevent this, we have made it clear that any patent must
  be licensed for everyone's free use or not licensed at all.

and in the terms and condition, it says:

  7. If, as a consequence of a court judgment or allegation of patent
  infringement or for any other reason (not limited to patent issues),
  conditions are imposed on you (whether by court order, agreement or
  otherwise) that contradict the conditions of this License, they do not
  excuse you from the conditions of this License.  If you cannot distribute
  so as to satisfy simultaneously your obligations under this License and
  any other pertinent obligations, then as a consequence you may not
  distribute the Program at all.  For example, if a patent license would not
  permit royalty-free redistribution of the Program by all those who receive
  copies directly or indirectly through you, then the only way you could
  satisfy both it and this License would be to refrain entirely from
  distribution of the Program.

So basically, because of the clarification of Thomson, the authors of mpg321
(or any other GPL mp3 players) or any distributors (Debian included) can no
longer grant you a license saying "you are free to use, copy, modify and
distribute your programs with or without a charge as long as the result
remains GPL", it is the obligation of the authors and distributors to
"refrain entirely from distribution of the Program".  Well, perhaps Thomson
didn't have made the "allegation" yet, but that's the idea.

Regards,
Isaac.


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Re: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext

[Dr. Sachin Kale]

- Original Message -
From: Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Dr. Sachin Kale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext


> On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 09:55:02PM +0530, Dr. Sachin Kale wrote:
> > I am trying to compile examples given in qt2-doc package, even
though
> > the directory containg libs is specified as -L/usr/X11R6/lib while
> > linking I get the above error.
>
> Have you installed xlibs-dev?

dpkg -l xlibs-dev gives it "un" flag, on trying to install, there are
dependecy problems with xlibs X client library.
I could not find it in debian pototo cd 2.2 r5 1 & 3; so I have to
download it. Why it is not there is a mystery.

If it is not installed, how do you explain the following -

ldconfig -p |grep *Xext* gives follwoing-

lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   14 Apr 10 19:49
libXext.so.6 -> libXext.so.6.3

In the /usr/X11R6/lib ls -lF *Xext* gives -

lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   14 Apr 10 19:49
libXext.so.6 -> libXext.so.6.3
-rw-r--r--1 root root44456 Feb 12  2001 libXext.so.6.3

Thanks

Sachin



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dpkg

[Oki DZ]

Hi,

dpkg --root=/mnt -i .deb will install the package in a system
which is rooted in /mnt. But "dpkg --root=/mnt -l" doesn't list the
installed packages in /mnt. Is this a bug, or was this meant to be so?

TIA,
Oki


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Re: Any suggestion on DE-530 NIC card?

[Colonelkorn]

Another D-Link 530 NIC:

DFE-530TXS ---> sundance alta

On Sunday, September 1, 2002, at 10:47 , Donald R. Spoon wrote:

> D-Link has a bad habit of putting out cards with similar model numbers, 
> but using widely differing chipsets.  Here is a list of the various 
> models in this area with their respective driver modules:
>
> DE-530TX---> tulip.o  (I would bet this is the one you want)
> DFE-530TX   ---> via-rhine.o
> DFE-530TX+  ---> rtl8139.o or 8139too.o


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Re: D-Link, Wireless and Debian

[Jamin W . Collins]

On Sun, 1 Sep 2002 17:59:05 -0700
Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yes, and it works well.  I have one.  The problem is that you have to be
> able to FIND the unit in order to configure it, and it comes up using
> DHCP to get its IP address.  I usually arp for it... I know its MAC
> prefix so it's not hard to find.  

Why not just assign it a fixed IP via DHCP?  Works beautifully here.

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Re: XMMS and the new MP3 patent terms

[David Wright]

The XMMS people are probably right that they don't need to change 
anything, because they are not selling XMMS.

Red Hat was right to remove MP3 players, because Red Hat is selling its 
distribution.

Technically, Debian doesn't sell its distribution, so in theory Debian 
shouldn't have to change anything.

But Debian does encourgage people to sell CD-ROMs of whatever is not in 
non-free. If someone were to include an MP3 player on a Debian CD-ROM 
and sell it, that person would be violating the MP3 licensing terms. As 
a courtesy to those who sell Debian CD's, and to avoid any possibility 
of being charged as an accessory to patent infringement, Debian should 
put MP3 players into non-free and remind people not to sell CD-ROMs of 
that archive.



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Re: Any suggestion on DE-530 NIC card?

[Donald R. Spoon]

Ying Yin wrote:
> Hello, all
> 
>   I installed "Woody" on my computer from CD_ROM that labeled
> "debian-30r0-i386-binary-1" and it can not recognize my DE-530
> NIC card.
> 
>   Would you give me any suggestion on how to find the NIC driver?
>   Thanks :)
> 
> 
> Best regards. 
> 
> Ying Yin
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 2002-09-02
> 
> 
> 

D-Link has a bad habit of putting out cards with similar model numbers, 
but using widely differing chipsets.  Here is a list of the various 
models in this area with their respective driver modules:

DE-530TX---> tulip.o  (I would bet this is the one you want)
DFE-530TX   ---> via-rhine.o
DFE-530TX+  ---> rtl8139.o or 8139too.o

Check your NIC's chipset and select one of the above modules according 
to the actual chipset you have.  Insert this module into the kernel 
using "modprobe X.o" command as root (where .o = driver module 
being tried).  If this works, then just add this module to the 
/etc/modules file.  It should be automatilly detected next time you 
boot, AND it will work after the "modprobe" command.

Depending on your kernel version, you might find several different 
"brands" of the tulip.o driver.  On my 2.2.20 kernel here, there is a 
"ng_tulip.o", a "old_tulip.o", a "tulip.o", and a "tulip_scyld.o" 
located in /lib/modules/2.2.20/net/.  You might want to try each of 
these with the "modprobe" command until you get one that installs OK.

Cheers,
-Don Spoon-



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Re: SOLVED: XMMS and the new MP3 patent terms

[Isaac To]

> "Paul" == Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Paul> OK, I *know* it's been mentioned in the thread already, but in
Paul> case people somehow missed it, the patent holders clarified thier
Paul> position on August 29th, and I'm really getting tired of this
Paul> thread.  In short, nothing changed for software.  If it wasn't GPL
Paul> compatible before, it never was.  This dies here.

So what?  The xmms and mpg321 packages still cannot continue to stay where
it is now, and Redhat is 100% right in removing the xmms mpg123 module and
the mpg321 out of its archive.

Regards,
Isaac.


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SOLVED: XMMS and the new MP3 patent terms

[Paul Johnson]

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On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 06:24:27PM +0200, Balazs Javor wrote:
> I'm not sure whether the administrative overhead makes this worth it,
> but did it occure to someone, that somebody could sell the mp3 plugin
> for XMMS or other players for a nominal fee of say USD 1, and then
> pay the 75 cents to Thompson?

OK, I *know* it's been mentioned in the thread already, but in case
people somehow missed it, the patent holders clarified thier
position on August 29th, and I'm really getting tired of this thread.
In short, nothing changed for software.  If it wasn't GPL compatible
before, it never was.  This dies here.

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/08/29/1718237&mode=nocomment

Thomson: MP3 Licensing Same As It Ever Was
NewsPosted by timothy on Thursday August 29, @10:55AM
from the gosh-all-we-changed-was-some-words-and-stuff dept.
Thomson Multimedia is downplaying the recently reported change in the
licensing of patented MP3 technology as nothing more than a trivial,
semantic change. In a NewsForge report today, Robin ("roblimo") Miller
quotes a spokesman who denies that any change in the licensing terms
has taken place, "that Thomson laid down its licensing terms long ago,
and that if Thomson's terms are not compatible with the GPL today,
then they never were." The patent encumbrance of MP3 codecs has
worried Free software enthusiasts for a long time; if the recent
wording change represents no change in policy, it seems that they
really have been right all along. (NewsForge, like Slashdot, is part
of the sinister OSDN keiretsu.)

- -- 
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Any suggestion on DE-530 NIC card?

[Ying Yin]

Hello, all  

I installed "Woody" on my computer from CD_ROM that labeled
"debian-30r0-i386-binary-1" and it can not recognize my DE-530
NIC card.

Would you give me any suggestion on how to find the NIC driver?
Thanks :)


Best regards. 

Ying Yin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
2002-09-02



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USBDNET driver (for Sharp Zaurus SL-5500 sync)

[Carl Fink]

I've purchased a Zaurus.  It's neat and all, but I can't sync it at work
(because their proxy software conflicts with Qtopia) and I can't sync it at
home, because apparently the stock Debian kernel (kernel-image-2.4.18-k7)
doesn't support the usbdnet extension.  Is anyone syncing with a Zaurus on
Linux?  Any advice?

No, I won't buy a wireless network just to sync.
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Manager, Dueling Modems Computer Forum



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Re: Bash commands

[Russell]

Bob Proulx wrote:
> 
> Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-01 15:40:58 +1000]:
> > I might have gotten somewhere initially if i hadn't have
> > used those square [] brackets.
> 
> A couple of gratuitous comments concerning the scripting plus the
> helpful comments which were posted.  I can't help but to say
> something...

Thanks for the tips. I'm getting better;)
I've been making this backup script which
is nearly complete:

#!/bin/sh
#
# Russ' backup
#
# Warning: Do not run unless you understand every line of this script
#
# Copy everything (almost) from the system to a backup removeable hard-disk
# Assumptions:
#  run in super-user mode
#  the spare hard-disk has enough capacity
#  the spare disk has been formatted to match the original
#in number and type of partitions
#
# The spare disk won't be bootable unless lilo is run separately,
#  which i haven't got around to doing yet

# The /boot partition:
HDD_BOOT=hdc1

# The main root / partition:
HDD_MAIN=hdc3


# Mount /boot partition
if ! mount | grep -qs /dev/$HDD_BOOT
then
  if ! mount -t ext2 /dev/$HDD_BOOT /mnt
  then
echo "Removeable /dev/$HDD_BOOT not working"
exit 1
  fi
fi

# Copy /boot partition
echo "Updating /boot"
if ! cp -auv /boot /mnt
then
  echo "Failed to update /boot"
  exit 1
fi

# Mount main partition
umount /mnt
if ! mount | grep -qs /dev/$HDD_MAIN
then
  if ! mount -t ext2 /dev/$HDD_MAIN /mnt
  then
echo "Removeable $HDD_MAIN not working"
exit 1
  fi
fi

# Copy everything on main partition
# Strip some top level directories we don't want to copy
FILES=$( ls / | sed -e s/boot//g | sed -e s/cdrom//g | sed -e s/proc//g | sed -e 
s/floppy//g | sed
-e s/mnt//g | sed -e s/dev//g)
# Note: I really want to copy some of these directories and their contents with
#   any attributes preserved, but without copying the contents of the files
#   (haven't figured out a command for that yet)

OPTS="-auv"
for i in $FILES
do
  echo "Updating /$i"
  if ! chroot / cp $OPTS $i /mnt
  then
echo "Failed to update /$i"
exit 1
  fi
done

echo "System backup successful"
exit 0


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executing command after dial-in

[Jochen Kächelin]

I put the following in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/homeip:

lynx -dump http://homeip.php

It will execute a small php-Script which stores my dynamic IP
from my provider in a MySQL-Database so that I know my homeip.

But the script does not execute.

When  I  execute  it  from  the shell with ./homeip everything works
fine!! I connect to the internet with pon dsl.provider (German DSL).

Any suggestions?

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Re: D-Link, Wireless and Debian

[Marc Wilson]

On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 04:17:41PM -0700, Rupa Schomaker wrote:
> I have a 1000AP...

Were you also aware that it has a possible SNMP compromise?  Search for
"D-Link DWL-1000AP can be compromised because of SNMP configuration" in the
BugTraq archives.

Basically, the admin password of the unit is available in plain-text if you
know how to do a MIB walk. :(

Supposedly you can only fiddle from the ethernet side of the device, but I
didn't test and don't know if that's true or not.  I just changed the
read-only community and avoided the whole issue.

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Re: D-Link, Wireless and Debian

[Marc Wilson]

On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 04:17:41PM -0700, Rupa Schomaker wrote:
> I have a 1000AP and newer versions of it's firmware sport a web
> interface to configure the device.

Yes, and it works well.  I have one.  The problem is that you have to be
able to FIND the unit in order to configure it, and it comes up using DHCP
to get its IP address.  I usually arp for it... I know its MAC prefix so
it's not hard to find.  It also doesn't switch IP's unless it loses power,
so I just have it bookmarked. :)

I don't remember whether or not it can be configured to use a static IP or
not... I no longer have a Windows box with which to run its utilities, and
the manual is for the "stupid" firmware it came with, rather than the
web-enabled that's in it now.  The web interface provides no way to define
a single IP for it to use.  I do note that there's a later firmware
(3.2.31) on D-Link's website replacing what I have in mine now (3.2.28)...
I have no idea if it provides anything new since D-Link of course doesn't
publish changelogs.

D-Link provides a "kickstart" utility that goes out and does discovery to
find the unit, but of course, that's another Windows utility.

> Of course, you have to use a windows computer to load the firmware...

Well, it's tftp to the AP that loads the firmware... I watched it with a
sniffer when it uploaded the new firmware last time and figured that much
out.  I suppose it wouldn't be all that hard to decipher exactly how to
talk to it... if it weren't the only one I had at the moment, maybe I'd
risk killing it.

> Maybe bring it to a friend that hasn't been converted to the one true
> way. >:)

Enough Windows machines running around in the world that it's really not an
issuei, if you HAD to talk to it. :)

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Re: I'm worried about a Warning from lilo

[Russell]

Nicos Gollan wrote:
> 
> On Sunday 01 September 2002 20:36, Paul E Condon wrote:
> > The message is:
> >
> > Warning: Int 0x13 function 8 and function 0x48 return different
> >  head/sector geometries for BIOS drive 0x81
> 
> This discussion was on the list before. Search the archives for "A Note
> from the LILO Developer on Warnings" (date is 2002-05-27). To make it
> short, you can suppress it with -w and it shouldn't be harmful.

There's lots of useful info in /usr/doc/lilo/Manual.txt.gz


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re: starting gnome and libpangoxft

[mobtek]

hi all,
When I start gnome as a normal user I get the following error

gnome-session: relocation error: /usr/lib/libpangoxft-1.0.so.0: undefined symbol: 
FT_Get_First_Char

but gnome will start as root.
Does anyone know how to fix this, I have been searching everywhere and still haven't 
found a solution that works.
I'm using Debian Sid and the experimental packages for Gnome2

cheers Peter van der Male


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Re: Bash commands

[Bob Proulx]

Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-01 15:40:58 +1000]:
> I might have gotten somewhere initially if i hadn't have
> used those square [] brackets.

A couple of gratuitous comments concerning the scripting plus the
helpful comments which were posted.  I can't help but to say
something.  I know, I know, I need therapy.

1. Using `` is the same as $() except that the $() are prefered since
   you can nest them without needing to do crazy quoting.  The quoting
   in general inside of $() is slightly better.  All modern shells
   support $().  The old Bourne shell does not.

2. The 'if' executes a command.  The '[' is a command.  Therefore if
   you can use the return code of a command directly it is ever so
   slightly more efficient since you have one less command.

 if grep -q foo /path/to/file; then

   is better than

 if [ -n "$(grep foo /path/to/file)" ]; then

3. You can negate the return code easily using '!'.

 if ! grep -q foo /path/to/file; then

   is better than

 if [ -z "$(grep foo /path/to/file)" ]; then

4. When using test you should always quote your test case.  This
   following case is bad since if the grep does not produce something
   then you get a syntax error from test.  But if it does produce
   something then you don't.  Coding with data dependent failures is
   always to be avoided.

 if [ -n $(grep foo /path/to/file) ]; then  # poor syntax, unreliable

5. Different shells treat pipelines differently.  IIRC it used to be
   with the old Bourne shell the return code is the return code of the
   last command to exit and not the last command in the pipeline.
   Which can make for subtle errors that are hard to debug.  I don't
   know if this is a concern with modern shells but I have been
   avoiding those cases for ten years.

Bob



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Re: PPP asks my ISP for password

[Paul E Condon]

On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 10:25:36PM +0100, Anna Lawless wrote:
> Having finally got what I thought was a working box, I can't dial
> out. Whichever method I use, I either can't connect to my ISP or
> the connection is refused by my box.
> I type 'pon', having set up ppp in the normal Debian way. Nothing
> happens. I'll go back into it to try to find the log message.
> I can dial out with kppp, but as soon as I'm connected pppd dies,
> with the message 'cannot obtain a password for this IP address'.
> Obviously I can't get a password from my ISP and I've searched
> everywhere to try to find out which file it's in.
> 
> I attempted to add a pppuser account, in the hope that would solve
> the problem. But I got a segmentation fault so that didn't work.
> 
> Finally, I have Woody with the vanilla kernel. I installed from
> DVD, seemed easier than seven cds. But when I try to add packages
> using dselect it exits with a 'unknown fs type' error. IsO is
> supported, I can read from the drive.
> 
> Would the compact kernel provide better support for a cd-writer
> and a dvd drive? The DVD was recognised and added to fstab
> automatically, although I did have to specify it was on /dev/hdd
> first, but the cd-rw drive I had to manually enter in fstab. As
> cd-writers use scsi emulation, could I have problems there.
> 

Concerning ppp: In both idepci and compact there is a very nice
ppp configure program that leads you through the setup of ppp.
For almost all ISPs, choose PAP authorization, and it will set it 
up. It sounds to me as if you have it setup to try two way passwords.
This is a special paranoid authorization mode which you use if you
are worried that someone will tap you phone line and pretend to be
your ISP and fake you into giving your password. Review carefully
your answers to questions to see if you have mistakenly choosen 
this. Of course, if you did mean to choose this, you have to do
some extra negotiation with your ISP about the 'wrong way' password.
Look for pppconfig.

Also, during install look for an alternative set that is something
like 'set kernel boot parameters' and insert 'hd?=ide-scsi', where
? is a letter a,b,c, or d, depending which /dev/ is your CDwriter.
For writing you don't need an entry in fstab for your writer, but
you do need cdrecord and mkisofs, both are debian packages. If you
use your writer as a reader of CDs, you will have to configure fstab
and as if you CD device were a SCSI device. You will have no
problem with cd-rw, if you are lucky enough to do it right the first
time.

Paul
> I apologise for showering this list with questions. I'm not coming
> straight from a microsoft environment, but I have become
> accustomed to Mandrake, which does most configurations
> automatically and normally detects hardware and adds kernel
> modules with no problems. I haven't had a linux box that didn't
> 'run out of the box' since Mandrake 7.0 which had so many problems
> with my then graphics card I became an x windows set-up expert.
> 
> Oh well, solving problems is the best way to learn. I've only
> installed Woody three times so far, and didn't get it to run until
> the last installation. But without being able to reach my ISP
> (plain modem dial-up, nothing else available) it's not much use.
> 
> 
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Re: /etc/cron.monthly/scrollkeeper noise

[Colin Watson]

On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 04:47:39PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
> It is the first of the month again and as every month I get a burp of
> noise from scrollkeeper.  But I don't even know what it is.

Add -q to the scrollkeeper-rebuilddb line.

> >  It stores metadata specified by the http://www.ibiblio.org/osrt/omf/
> >  (Open Source Metadata Framework) as well as certain metadata extracted
> >  directly from documents (such as the table of contents).
> > 
> >  It provides various functionality pertaining to this metadata to help
> >  browsers, such as sorting the registered documents or searching the
> >  metadata for documents which satisfy a set of criteria.
> 
> Would it be possible for a kind soul to educate me?  What is
> scrollkeeper?

It is a system for registering information about documents installed on
the system and allowing programs like the GNOME help browser to access
them.

> Why does it burp noise every month?

scrollkeeper changed upstream to output more information by default and
to provide a -q option to disable this verbosity. I think the maintainer
forgot to add -q to the cron job to go along with this change.

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Love it when a good plan works out!

[Johnny Quazar]

Just completed my first crack at the new Woody 3.0r0 release, and 
wanted to write and kudos to the team!

Wow, smooth as silk, the >only< glitch I experienced was an 
overloaded security.debian.org server -- and you guys even 
anticipated that event! I used retry a couple times and blamo -- 
pain-free Linux install!

I've got a few of these under my belt and have never seen it go 
smoother -- GOOD JOB PEOPLE! Huge Warm Fuzzies!!

Thanks again,

Rob Leachman
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PS: Well I wanted to write one of those really rare messages but 
cannot click send without finding something to suggest... nowhere in 
the (i386) install manual does it clearly state:

1. Download compact-rescue and compact-root
2. Make floppies
3. Boot the rescue disk
4. Do the most obvious thing
5. Bask in the glow

I had to "go for it" with less certainty than would have been 
provided with at least step 1 explicitly stated (under the 
"installing over network" section?). Shrug, whatever.

Substitute this suggestion with "how the heck did I get nethack, in a 
minimal install" if the above doesn't seem important, ha ha.


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/etc/cron.monthly/scrollkeeper noise

[Bob Proulx]

It is the first of the month again and as every month I get a burp of
noise from scrollkeeper.  But I don't even know what it is.

I read the package description.  It was so informative.  Not!  It is
so abstract as to say nothing at all about scrollkeeper.  I will
reproduce it here.

>  It stores metadata specified by the http://www.ibiblio.org/osrt/omf/
>  (Open Source Metadata Framework) as well as certain metadata extracted
>  directly from documents (such as the table of contents).
> 
>  It provides various functionality pertaining to this metadata to help
>  browsers, such as sorting the registered documents or searching the
>  metadata for documents which satisfy a set of criteria.

Would it be possible for a kind soul to educate me?  What is
scrollkeeper?  Why does it burp noise every month?

> Subject: Cron  test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report 
>/etc/cron.monthly
> 
> /etc/cron.monthly/scrollkeeper:
> scrollkeeper-update: /usr/local/share/omf: No such file or directory
> Registering /usr/share/omf/gnome-core/gnome-feedback-C.omf
> Registering /usr/share/omf/gnome-core/fdl-C.omf
> Registering /usr/share/omf/gnome-core/gnome-feedback-no.omf
> [...three big pages of lines like this deleted...]

And I can't remove it or it will also want to remove galeon-common and
therefore galeon-common.  But interestingly not mozilla.  I would be
happy it if removed everything else since I use fvwm and not gnome.

> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>   galeon* galeon-common* gdm* gnome-applets* gnome-control-center*
>   gnome-core* gnome-help* gnome-panel* gnome-panel-data*
>   gnome-session* gnome-terminal* gnome-users-guide* gnome-utils*
>   gtm* sawfish-gnome* scrollkeeper*

I will manually disable it unless there is an overwhelming reason not
to do so.  I hate gratuitously noise cron jobs like this package.
Multiply this across many machines and it equates to a mail bomb
regularly in my mailbox each month.

Thanks
Bob



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Re: PPP asks my ISP for password

[Donald R. Spoon]

Anna Lawless wrote:
> Having finally got what I thought was a working box, I can't dial
> out. Whichever method I use, I either can't connect to my ISP or
> the connection is refused by my box.
> I type 'pon', having set up ppp in the normal Debian way. Nothing
> happens. I'll go back into it to try to find the log message.
> I can dial out with kppp, but as soon as I'm connected pppd dies,
> with the message 'cannot obtain a password for this IP address'.
> Obviously I can't get a password from my ISP and I've searched
> everywhere to try to find out which file it's in.
> 

The main problem here is that the "auth" config command is somewhere in 
your pppd configuration files.  See "man pppd" for more info.  In the 
default Debian install there will be a "auth" command in 
/etc/ppp/options, which is OK.  This is there so your box can act as a 
"dial-in" ppp server.  If you used the "pppconfig" program to configure 
your dial-out, then another config file is created that will overide 
this command.  It is usually located in the /etc/ppp/peers/provider file 
(IF you used the default "provider" name for it when running pppconfig).

I would recommend you NOT change anything in the /etc/ppp/options file, 
but instead look for an "auth" command in /etc/ppp/peers/provider and 
change it to "noauth".  Alternatively, you can re-run the "pppconfig" 
command and it will create the proper file for you.  I haven't had any 
problems here using it this way.  YMMV

 > -SNIP- <
> Finally, I have Woody with the vanilla kernel. I installed from
> DVD, seemed easier than seven cds. But when I try to add packages
> using dselect it exits with a 'unknown fs type' error. IsO is
> supported, I can read from the drive.
> 
> Would the compact kernel provide better support for a cd-writer
> and a dvd drive? The DVD was recognised and added to fstab
> automatically, although I did have to specify it was on /dev/hdd
> first, but the cd-rw drive I had to manually enter in fstab. As
> cd-writers use scsi emulation, could I have problems there.
> 

Generally speaking, and IMHO, any of the install "flavors" such as the 
"compact" kernel "flavor" are somewhat crippled.  This is done to allow 
the kernel to fit on a boot-floppy for the boot-floppy install, and many 
of the modules have been left out to save space on the disk.  These 
kernel "flavors" are tailored for specific install situations.  You have 
two options in this case...compile your own kernel, or get one of the 
precompiled kernel-images as soon as practical.  The pre-compiled 
kernel-images tend to be a LOT more "generic".   IF you get your PPP 
link working, then it is probably easier and faster to just obtain a 
pre-compiled kernel-image from one of the Debian sites.

It is hard to determine from your info exactly what the problem is with 
your DVD drive.  Can you "mount" the DVD drive and browse through the 
file system there.  If so, then dselect "should" be able to see it.  You 
will probably have to manually mount the DVD drive before using dselect. 
  If this still doesn't work, I don't have a clue

You are correct about needing the scsi "drivers" for your CD-writer. 
This is an entire subject in itself, and I would recommend you 
concentrate on getting your PPP link up first and address this later, as 
you indicated...  Some more info on your hardware setup would be quite 
helpful.


Cheers & Good Luck!
-Don Spoon-


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Re: raidhotadd and RAID1

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya patrick

yeah... raidhotadd  i just am too lazy to go look up
the latest commands... keeps changing  :-)
and new ones added each year ...
( nope, i dont use them commands too often so far )

if you can do your raidhotadd  and it works ??
cat /proc/mdstat  --> what does it say

write a huge 3GB file to the raid array, take it down
and see if the 3GB is corrupt etc.. 
- lots o testing ...

- donno why it wont "stick"  -- maybe something
wrong with /etc/raidtab  or wrong partition type
for /dev/hdg ??? ( should be fd ( raid autodetect )
or something like it  ( fdisk, cfdsisk, ... )

- if its based on bios, hw raid ignore everything
in here ... bios hw raid doesnt work ... and doesnt
need any of these commands/files

- reboot with only one disk for a good test..

c ya
alvin

On Sun, 1 Sep 2002, patrick wrote:

> --- Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > hi ya michael
> > 
> > -- looks like we have a mis-communication.. lets try it again
> > 
> > my understanding so far..
> > 
> > - you had sda and sdb running as raid1 ( mirroring ) before 
> > - if this not the case... all bets are off
> > 
> > - than sdb dies  you replaced it ...
> > 
> > and now we are trying to rebuild the raid1 as it should be
> > ( that the system can boot off either sda or sdb
> > - simply doing something like  "hotswapadd /dev/sdb" 
> > will automatically do all the magic to rebuild the raid
> > as it was before the disk crashed
> > 
> 
> Hi Alvin,
> 
> I've never heard of "hotswapadd", did you mean "raidhotadd" ?
> 
> I also have raid-1 problems. raid-0 gets started fine, but raid-1
> starts in degraded mode, using only hde.  (started after I had to
> rebuild the partition table on hdg)
> I can manually raidhotadd /dev/md? /dev/hdg?
> which restores the arrays fine, but it doesn't 'stick'.  I have to
> raidhotadd after every boot.
> 


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user specific screen res in x

[Ben Thompson]

Hello,

Is it possible to have a different default screen resolution in x for each 
user ?

I use kdm, and some of the other users on this computer prefer different 
resolutions. It would be great if it automatically changed to the users 
preffered setting when they log in.

Ben Thompson.


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Re: PPP asks my ISP for password

[Tom Badran]

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On Sunday 01 Sep 2002 10:25 pm, Anna Lawless wrote:
> Having finally got what I thought was a working box, I can't dial
> out. Whichever method I use, I either can't connect to my ISP or
> the connection is refused by my box.
> I type 'pon', having set up ppp in the normal Debian way. Nothing
> happens. I'll go back into it to try to find the log message.
> I can dial out with kppp, but as soon as I'm connected pppd dies,
> with the message 'cannot obtain a password for this IP address'.
> Obviously I can't get a password from my ISP and I've searched
> everywhere to try to find out which file it's in.

You need to edit your /etc/ppp/options file an have the option noauth (i think
it is commented out by default). Also make sure there is no 'auth' option
somewhere else in the file.

Tom

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Re: mailman and courier-mta

[Andraz Sraka]

re

On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 03:06:08PM -0500, Eugene von Niederhausern wrote:
> Has anyone been able to get mailman to work with courier-mta?

yup ..


> My alias file looks like:
> 
> test: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper-test"
> test-admin: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner test"
> test-owner: test-admin
> test-request: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test"

> Any idea?

hmm .. rewrite those aliases as this and it should work

test:   "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper post test"
test-admin: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner test"
test-request:   "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test"
test-owner: test-admin

regards,
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PPP asks my ISP for password

[Anna Lawless]

Having finally got what I thought was a working box, I can't dial
out. Whichever method I use, I either can't connect to my ISP or
the connection is refused by my box.
I type 'pon', having set up ppp in the normal Debian way. Nothing
happens. I'll go back into it to try to find the log message.
I can dial out with kppp, but as soon as I'm connected pppd dies,
with the message 'cannot obtain a password for this IP address'.
Obviously I can't get a password from my ISP and I've searched
everywhere to try to find out which file it's in.

I attempted to add a pppuser account, in the hope that would solve
the problem. But I got a segmentation fault so that didn't work.

Finally, I have Woody with the vanilla kernel. I installed from
DVD, seemed easier than seven cds. But when I try to add packages
using dselect it exits with a 'unknown fs type' error. IsO is
supported, I can read from the drive.

Would the compact kernel provide better support for a cd-writer
and a dvd drive? The DVD was recognised and added to fstab
automatically, although I did have to specify it was on /dev/hdd
first, but the cd-rw drive I had to manually enter in fstab. As
cd-writers use scsi emulation, could I have problems there.

I apologise for showering this list with questions. I'm not coming
straight from a microsoft environment, but I have become
accustomed to Mandrake, which does most configurations
automatically and normally detects hardware and adds kernel
modules with no problems. I haven't had a linux box that didn't
'run out of the box' since Mandrake 7.0 which had so many problems
with my then graphics card I became an x windows set-up expert.

Oh well, solving problems is the best way to learn. I've only
installed Woody three times so far, and didn't get it to run until
the last installation. But without being able to reach my ISP
(plain modem dial-up, nothing else available) it's not much use.



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Re: I need information please!

[Carlos A P Gomes]

* Marco Espinoza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [01-09-2002 13:45]:
> I'm interested in knowing more about debian.
> I would like you to send information about it, I mean,
> its benefits and a complete information to my e-mail.
> 
> It would be better if you send it in Spanish because
> Im from Peru and I speak Spanish (better).

Take a look at
http://www.debian.org/international/Spanish.es.html
and follow the links

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[ThomasRatliffDDS]

Your suggestion

> /usr/sbin/gpm -m /dev/psaux -t autops2 -Rps2 -M -m /dev/input/mice -t
>  imps2 -Rps2

was close but it got me on the correct track.  The /dev/gpmdata has to be
written to in a format compatable to both mice so that it can be read by
both mice, however an XF86Config-X protocol has to be identified that
will work for both mice.  The -Rps2 wouldn't work for both mice but -Rraw
and the -t ps2 was compatable so

 /usr/sbin/gpm -m /dev/psaux -t ps2 -Rraw -M -m /dev/input/mice -t
  ps2 -Rraw

with, in XF86Config-4

Option  "Protocol"  "PS/2"

works fine with your suggested GPM_MOUSE

Thanks very much!


On Sun, 1 Sep 2002, Joris wrote:

> > I'd like to have both mice working with gpm and X.  My gpm and X
> > relevant sections follow and ideas on tweaking these to make this work
> > would be appreciated.
> >
> > Using a laptop (Gateway9550) with its builtin mouse, and a USB mouse
> > (logitech optical cordless)
> >
> > The following gives me the builtin but not the USB in console but both
> > working mice in X
> 
>
> > The following gives me both mice in console but I lose one ( jerky
> > unpredictable behavior) in X
> 
>
> this second setup is good to start from, as it already works in console
> imho, the way you want to use gpmdata is wrong. it is one fifo, and you
> repeat two different signals through it. my guess would be to repeat both
> mice through gpmdata, but in the same protocol. X won't even notice the
> actions come from two different mice, so you'll only need one
> "inputdevice" section. you might try a config like this:
>
> /usr/sbin/gpm -m /dev/psaux -t autops2 -Rps2 -M -m /dev/input/mice -t
>  imps2 -Rps2
>
>
> Section "InputDevice"
>  Identifier  "GPM Mouse"
>  Driver  "mouse"
>  Option  "CorePointer"
>  Option  "Device""/dev/gpmdata"
>  Option  "Protocol"  "PS/2"
>  Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
>  Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
> EndSection
>
> Section "ServerLayout"
>  Identifier  "Default Layout"
>  Screen  "Default Screen"
>  InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
>  InputDevice "GPM Mouse"
> EndSection
>
>
> just guessing, but you might give it a try
> good luck,
>
> Joris
>
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Re: I'm worried about a Warning from lilo

[Nicos Gollan]

On Sunday 01 September 2002 20:36, Paul E Condon wrote:
> The message is:
>
> Warning: Int 0x13 function 8 and function 0x48 return different
>  head/sector geometries for BIOS drive 0x81

This discussion was on the list before. Search the archives for "A Note 
from the LILO Developer on Warnings" (date is 2002-05-27). To make it 
short, you can suppress it with -w and it shouldn't be harmful.

Greetings from the depths of my memory. Why can I remember such 
unimportant stuff and forget everything I need for exams?

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mailman and courier-mta

[Eugene von Niederhausern]

Has anyone been able to get mailman to work with courier-mta?

I have been trying for the past couple of days to get them to work, but 
I am having trouble getting courier to see the aliases. The error I am 
getting is:

Reporting-MTA: dns; jediknight.dsl.csolutions.net
Arrival-Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 13:24:00 -0600
Received-From-MTA: dns; localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])

Final-Recipient: rfc822; 
".xalias/test@jediknight+2edsl+2ecsolutions+2enet"@jediknight.dsl.csolutions.net
Action: failed
Original-Recipient: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: 5.0.0
Diagnostic-Code: unknown; 550 User unknown.


My alias file looks like:

test: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper-test"

test-admin: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner test"

test-owner: test-admin

test-request: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test"


Any idea?

regards,

Eugene von Niederhauser
http://www.l4sb.com




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Re: XMMS and the new MP3 patent terms

[David Wright]

> PS: I don't want to start a troll, I just feel that free software gets
> threatened by US
> patents and the only way to get rid of this problem is by ignoring it...

Please read previous mail in the thread.

This is not a US patent. This is a European patent. For MP3, the US/EU 
distinction is a red herring -- Frauenhofer has the same rights in both.


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[Joris]

> I'd like to have both mice working with gpm and X.  My gpm and X
> relevant sections follow and ideas on tweaking these to make this work
> would be appreciated.
> 
> Using a laptop (Gateway9550) with its builtin mouse, and a USB mouse
> (logitech optical cordless)
> 
> The following gives me the builtin but not the USB in console but both
> working mice in X


> The following gives me both mice in console but I lose one ( jerky
> unpredictable behavior) in X


this second setup is good to start from, as it already works in console
imho, the way you want to use gpmdata is wrong. it is one fifo, and you
repeat two different signals through it. my guess would be to repeat both
mice through gpmdata, but in the same protocol. X won't even notice the
actions come from two different mice, so you'll only need one
"inputdevice" section. you might try a config like this:
 
/usr/sbin/gpm -m /dev/psaux -t autops2 -Rps2 -M -m /dev/input/mice -t
 imps2 -Rps2


Section "InputDevice"
 Identifier  "GPM Mouse"
 Driver  "mouse"
 Option  "CorePointer"
 Option  "Device""/dev/gpmdata"
 Option  "Protocol"  "PS/2"
 Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
 Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
 Identifier  "Default Layout"
 Screen  "Default Screen"
 InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
 InputDevice "GPM Mouse"
EndSection


just guessing, but you might give it a try
good luck,

Joris


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Re: WindowMaker

[Jerome Acks Jr]

On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 10:29:40AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote:
> I'm trying to add my own command to the Window Maker WM.
> 
> What I'm tyring to do is add the ability to run a single command 
> line from the F2 key.  This is simeilar to the functionality in 
> KDE of the F2 button.
> 
> Someone has recommended
> 
>   "Run..." SHORTCUT F2 SHEXEC %a(Run,Type command to run: )
> 
> The only problem is that I really don't know where to put it.
> 
> 
> help?
> 
> Personally, I think it would be pretty neat to put together 
> something in the docs of the WindowMaker.  (I really hope I didn't 
> miss seeing this file if it does exist, I'll feel really stupid.)

You want to add the command to ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu. You can
edit the file with any text editor or /usr/bin/WPrefs.

The following is the WMRootMenu that I use. It is based heavily on an
example Karsten M. Self published to the list several months ago.

cat ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu

 (
  Commands,
  (Run..., SHORTCUT, "Mod1+F2", EXEC, "%a(Run, Command to run:)"),
  (Terminal, SHORTCUT, "Shift+Mod1+t", EXEC, rxvt),
  (
Rootshell,
SHORTCUT,
"Shift+Mod1+r",
EXEC,
"rxvt -bg grey20 -fg wheat -exec sudo su -"
  ),
  (Galeon, SHORTCUT, "Shift+Mod1+n", EXEC, galeon),
  (Jpilot, EXEC, jpilot),
  (Gimp, EXEC, gimp),
  (OpenOffice, EXEC, "/usr/bin/ooffice"),
  (gtop, EXEC, gtop),
  (
Applications,
(Bibletime, EXEC, bibletime),
(Dillo, EXEC, dillo),
(Galeon, SHORTCUT, "Shift+Mod1+n", EXEC, galeon),
(Lyx, EXEC, lyx),
(Mozilla, EXEC, mozilla),
(Mutt, EXEC, "rxvt -bg black -T Mutt -e mutt -y"),
(StarOffice, EXEC, soffice),
(
  "screen w3m",
  SHEXEC,
  "export SHELL=/usr/bin/w3m; rxvt -name w3mTerm -bg OldLace -title w3m -e screen 
w3m /usr/share/doc/w3m/MANUAL.html"
),
(
  w3m,
  SHORTCUT,
  "Shift+Mod1+w",
  EXEC,
  "rxvt -name w3mTerm -title w3m -e w3m directory.google.com"
),
(XChat, EXEC, xchat),
(
  "Xlogo confirm",
  SHEXEC,
  " ~/bin/xlogo.sh \"%a(xlogo ,Run xlogo now [y/n?])\""
),
("Default menu", OPEN_MENU, "/etc/X11/WindowMaker/menu"),
(
  Utilities,
  (FSViewer, EXEC, fsviewer),
  (Calculator, EXEC, xcalc),
  (XProp, EXEC, xprop),
  ("Font Chooser", EXEC, xfontsel),
  (ColorMap, EXEC, xcmap),
  (ColorSel, EXEC, xcolorsel),
  (
top,
SHORTCUT,
"Control+Mod1+p",
EXEC,
"rxvt -bg black -fg green -fn fixed -T top -e top -s"
  ),
  (xosview, EXEC, xosview)
),
(
  XShells,
  (Eterm, EXEC, "/usr/bin/Eterm"),
  ("Gnome Term", EXEC, "/usr/bin/gnome-terminal"),
  (Konsole, EXEC, konsole),
  (rxvt, EXEC, rxvt),
  (xterm, EXEC, xterm),
  (wterm, EXEC, wterm),
  (uxterm, EXEC, uxterm)
)
  ),
  (
Editors,
(
  vim,
  SHORTCUT,
  "Shift+Mod1+v",
  EXEC,
  "rxvt -T vim -bg darkslategrey -fg gold -cr yellow1 -e vim"
),
(emacs, EXEC, emacs),
(xemacs, SHORTCUT, "Shift+Mod1+x", EXEC, xemacs),
(elvis, EXEC, elvis),
(nedit, EXEC, nedit),
(ted, EXEC, ted),
(lyx, EXEC, lyx),
(
  bvi,
  EXEC,
  "rxvt -T bvi -bg darkslategrey -fg green2 -cr yellow1 -e bvi"
)
  ),
  (
Info,
(Info, INFO_PANEL),
("Legal Panel", LEGAL_PANEL),
(
  "Help MENU",
  ("Debian Online Help", EXEC, "/usr/bin/dhelp"),
  ("Debian Online Help (old)", EXEC, "/usr/bin/dhelp_fsstnd"),
  ("Gnome Help", EXEC, "/usr/bin/gnome-help-browser"),
  (Info, EXEC, "x-terminal-emulator  -T 'Info' -e /usr/bin/info"),
  (Xman, EXEC, xman)
)
  ),
  ("Debian menus", OPEN_MENU, "/etc/X11/WindowMaker/menu.hook"),
  (
WorkSpace,
(Appearance, OPEN_MENU, appearance.menu),
("Arrange Icons", ARRANGE_ICONS),
("Clear Session", CLEAR_SESSION),
("Hide Others", HIDE_OTHERS),
("Save Session", SAVE_SESSION),
("Show All", SHOW_ALL)
  ),
  (Workspaces, WORKSPACE_MENU),
  (Refresh, REFRESH),
  (
Screen,
(
  Lock,
  SHORTCUT,
  "Shift+Mod1+slash",
  EXEC,
  "/usr/bin/xscreensaver-command -lock"
),
("Activate (no lock)", EXEC, "/usr/bin/xscreensaver-command -activate"),
("Enable Screensaver", EXEC, "/usr/bin/xscreensaver"),
("Disable Screensaver", EXEC, "/usr/bin/xscreensaver-command -exit"),
(
  "Restart Screensaver",
  EXEC,
  "/usr/bin/xscreensaver-command  -restart"
),
("Demo Screensaver", EXEC, "/usr/bin/xscreensaver-command -demo"),
("Screensaver Pefs", EXEC, "/usr/bin/xscreensaver-command -prefs")
  ),
  (
Exit,
(Restart, RESTART),
(
  WindowManagers,
  (WindowMaker, RESTART, "/usr/X11R6/bin/wmaker"),
  (Sawmill, RESTART, "/usr/bin/sawmill"),
  (BlackBox, RESTART, "/usr/bin/blackbox"),
  (Enlightenment, RESTART, "/usr/bin/enlightenment"),
  (fvwm, RESTART, "/usr/bin/X11/fvwm"),
  (vtwm, RESTART, "/usr/bin/X11/vtwm"),
  (twm, R

Re: I'm worried about a Warning from lilo

[Greg C. Madden]

On Sun, 2002-09-01 at 10:36, Paul E Condon wrote:
> Hi. 
> After a change to lilo.conf, I ran lilo, and noticed a warning message. 
> I have not noticed this message before. Is it serious? What does it mean?
> 
> The message is:
> 
> Warning: Int 0x13 function 8 and function 0x48 return different
>  head/sector geometries for BIOS drive 0x81
> 
> Also which drive in the series hd[a-d] is referenced by BIOS drive 0x81?
> 
> Hope this is not serious. I have plenty of problems without clobbered
> data on disk.
> 
> TIA
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
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I found this doing a google search on the error message, from a Suse
list:

"The first warning(0X13) is that Lilo is checking your BIOS for large
disk support. It should work anyway. You can check if your BIOS is ready
for an upgrade. 

The second(empty map) can be that there is a 0-byte file that messes up
Lilo's mapping, for example a 0-byte /boot/message file. 


It could also be that you have an empty initrd RAM disk. If you have
deleted 
what is in initrd, you should run the command 'mk_initrd' to correct
this. 


Check with the command: lilo -t -v -v -v -v -v for more verbose output,
and also check in /boot to find the 0-byte file. 

Regards, 

Jostein "

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Re: Most stable MSN and ICQ support?

[Jeremy Nickurak]

I operate an exclusive server for me and some friends. It's not too complicated,
but I do recommend that you contact the people on the jdev or jabber channels on
conference.jabber.org (that's jabber conferencing, not IRC), for more details, or
seek out the Jabber Server HOWTO. (a google search for that should deliver that quick)

On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 07:39:40PM +0200, Sami Dalouche wrote:
> which jabber server do you use ? I currently use charente.de and it's
> hard to say that it's 100% reliable.
> 
> Sam
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jeremy Nickurak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Chun Kit Edwin Lau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 6:47 PM
> Subject: Re: Most stable MSN and ICQ support?
> 
> 
> > I use jabber exclusively, which in my experience is currently producing
> 100% reliable
> > MSN/ICQ messaging (AIM too, and yahoo shortly, once the transport is
> brought up to date with
> > recent changes on yahoo's side.)
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 06:36:43PM -0400, Chun Kit Edwin Lau wrote:
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > I want to find a stable MSN and ICQ client but don't know which
> > > one is.  I know that icq changes its protocol a while ago.  Don't know
> > > if any client support it.  Are Gaim and Gabber ok?  Thanx
> > >
> > > --
> > > Edwin ERTW Lau
> > > __
> > > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
> > >
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[ThomasRatliffDDS]

>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Sep  1 12:01:19 2002
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 09:49:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: ThomasRatliffDDS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 2mice wanted in console and X


I'd like to have both mice working with gpm and X.  My gpm and X relevant
sections follow and ideas on tweaking these to make this work would be
appreciated.

Using a laptop (Gateway9550) with its builtin mouse, and a USB mouse
(logitech optical cordless)

The following gives me the builtin but not the USB in console but both
working mice in X

/usr/sbin/gpm -m /dev/psaux -t autops2 -Rraw

(From XF86Config-4)

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/gpmdata"
Option  "Protocol"  "PS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "USB Mice"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "SendCoreEvents""true"
#Option "Device""/dev/gpmdata"
Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier  "Default Layout"
Screen  "Default Screen"
InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
InputDevice "USB Mice"
EndSection

The following gives me both mice in console but I lose one ( jerky
unpredictable behavior) in X

/usr/sbin/gpm -m /dev/psaux -t autops2 -Rraw -M -m /dev/input/mice -t
imps2 -Rraw


Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/gpmdata"
Option  "Protocol"  "PS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "USB Mice"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "SendCoreEvents""true"
Option "Device""/dev/gpmdata"
#Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier  "Default Layout"
Screen  "Default Screen"
InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
InputDevice "USB Mice"
EndSection




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Sound card driver for CM87389(rev 10)

[Paul E Condon]

I am working on getting sound set up on this Woody computer.
I got a sound card from Frys and plugged it in. 
lspci says it is C-Media Electronics CM8738(rev 10).
I suspect that I need the cmpci.o modules, that appeared 
when I was installing the vanilla Woody. But I couldn't 
get vanilla to handle my CD reader in a way that I understood,
and I have installed the compact version of Woody, which
I can make work for both my CD reader and writer (separate
devices hdc and hdd, respectively).

But compact doesn't include cmpci.o

Where can I find it? What package must I load to get it to
show up in /lib/modules/... ?

Or am I totally misunderstanding? I have never done sound, 
so am ignorant of even the most basic sound info. I read
various howto and think I understand, but then when I try,
it doesn't work. 

TIA


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Re: I'm worried about a Warning from lilo

[Deryk Barker]

Thus spake Paul E Condon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> Hi. 
> After a change to lilo.conf, I ran lilo, and noticed a warning message. 
> I have not noticed this message before. Is it serious? What does it mean?
> 
> The message is:
> 
> Warning: Int 0x13 function 8 and function 0x48 return different
>  head/sector geometries for BIOS drive 0x81
> 
> Also which drive in the series hd[a-d] is referenced by BIOS drive 0x81?
> 
> Hope this is not serious. I have plenty of problems without clobbered
> data on disk.

I'd be curious to hear the answer to both questions, although having
seen the warning several times myself, I don't think it's serious -
doesn't seem to have affected my system anyway...(FLW)

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I'm worried about a Warning from lilo

[Paul E Condon]

Hi. 
After a change to lilo.conf, I ran lilo, and noticed a warning message. 
I have not noticed this message before. Is it serious? What does it mean?

The message is:

Warning: Int 0x13 function 8 and function 0x48 return different
 head/sector geometries for BIOS drive 0x81

Also which drive in the series hd[a-d] is referenced by BIOS drive 0x81?

Hope this is not serious. I have plenty of problems without clobbered
data on disk.

TIA

Paul


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Re: how to unsubscribe??

[David]

On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 08:42:31PM -0400, Jeff Maxson wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 11:32:45AM -0700, Craig Dickson happened to mention:
> > Larry Smith wrote:
> > 
> > > How do I unsubscribe from this group?
> > 
> > This text appears at the bottom of every message on this list:
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> One common thread that I've noticed on these "can't unsubscribe" notes
> is that the people having the problem often are on yahoo or the like.
> These services always stick on the tag-line.  Would that mess up the
> auto-list stuff?

Even so, the unsubscribe address is also in the header.  In fact, with
a graphical reader, such as KMail, just clicking View -> Show full
headers, and then clicking on that mailto address will generate the
message with Unsubscribe in the subject and all you have to do is click
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Re: Debian with Windows XP

[Ross Boylan]

On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 07:51:03PM +0200, Bas du Pre wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I use Windows XP, but I want Debian on my computer too.
> Is that possible? I heard from other people that RedHat doesn't work with Windows XP.
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Bas du Pre
> the Netherlands

I understand from the linux-ntfs list that RedHat is not shipped with
ntfs support in the kernel (or maybe its broken).  So you probably
could use RedHat, if you were willing to rebuild the kernel.  Of
course, I like debian fine.

Also, I'm not sure if all XP disk formats are supported by linux,
particularly the server variants.


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Re: Most stable MSN and ICQ support?

[Sami Dalouche]

which jabber server do you use ? I currently use charente.de and it's
hard to say that it's 100% reliable.

Sam

- Original Message -
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Subject: Re: Most stable MSN and ICQ support?


> I use jabber exclusively, which in my experience is currently producing
100% reliable
> MSN/ICQ messaging (AIM too, and yahoo shortly, once the transport is
brought up to date with
> recent changes on yahoo's side.)
>
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 06:36:43PM -0400, Chun Kit Edwin Lau wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I want to find a stable MSN and ICQ client but don't know which
> > one is.  I know that icq changes its protocol a while ago.  Don't know
> > if any client support it.  Are Gaim and Gabber ok?  Thanx
> >
> > --
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Re: Need help package ownership problem

[Carlos Sousa]

On Sun, 1 Sep 2002 09:49:38 -0700 Ross Boylan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am unable to apt-get dist-upgrade because logtail and logcheck are
> fighting over the same file.

Same thing happened to me. I just uninstalled and re-installed logcheck,
like this:

apt-get remove --purge logcheck logtail
apt-get install logcheck

Worked beautifully for me.

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Need help package ownership problem

[Ross Boylan]

I am unable to apt-get dist-upgrade because logtail and logcheck are
fighting over the same file.  The package owner suggested using

dpkg-divert --package logtail --add --rename /usr/share/man/man8/logtail.8.gz 

but as you can see below, it gets removed before it can help.  Can
anyone suggest how to proceed?


Preconfiguring packages ...
(Reading database ... 165764 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace logtail 1.1.9.3 (using .../logtail_1.1.9.4_all.deb) ...
Removing `diversion of /usr/share/man/man8/logtail.8.gz to 
/usr/share/man/man8/logtail.8.gz.distrib by logtail'
Unpacking replacement logtail ...
dpkg: error processing /usr/var/cache/apt/archives/logtail_1.1.9.4_all.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man8/logtail.8.gz', which is also in package 
logcheck
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /usr/var/cache/apt/archives/logtail_1.1.9.4_all.deb


I am basically running testing, but installed logtail 1.1.9.3 from unstable
because of similar ownership issues.

Thanks.


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Re: raidhotadd and RAID1

[Elimar Riesebieter]

Hi Gents,

On Sun, 01 Sep 2002 the mental interface of patrick told:

[...]
> --- Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Alvin,
> 
> I've never heard of "hotswapadd", did you mean "raidhotadd" ?
> 
> I also have raid-1 problems. raid-0 gets started fine, but raid-1
> starts in degraded mode, using only hde.  (started after I had to
> rebuild the partition table on hdg)
> I can manually raidhotadd /dev/md? /dev/hdg?
> which restores the arrays fine, but it doesn't 'stick'.  I have to
> raidhotadd after every boot.
> 
> Any ideas?

Have a look at /usr/share/doc/raidtools2/ "The Software-RAID HOWTO
6.1 Recovery from a multiple disk failure". Yesterday I repaired
one of my raid devices succesfull. This should help! Make a backup
of your partition before! I don't have that much experience to know
wether it works in every case. I made one but didn't need. Better as
the other way round!

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Re: Most stable MSN and ICQ support?

[Jeremy Nickurak]

I use jabber exclusively, which in my experience is currently producing 100% reliable
MSN/ICQ messaging (AIM too, and yahoo shortly, once the transport is brought up to 
date with
recent changes on yahoo's side.)

On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 06:36:43PM -0400, Chun Kit Edwin Lau wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
>   I want to find a stable MSN and ICQ client but don't know which
> one is.  I know that icq changes its protocol a while ago.  Don't know
> if any client support it.  Are Gaim and Gabber ok?  Thanx
> 
> -- 
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Re: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext

[Colin Watson]

On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 09:55:02PM +0530, Dr. Sachin Kale wrote:
> I am trying to compile examples given in qt2-doc package, even though
> the directory containg libs is specified as -L/usr/X11R6/lib while
> linking I get the above error.

Have you installed xlibs-dev?

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/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext

[Dr. Sachin Kale]

Hello

I am trying to compile examples given in qt2-doc package, even though
the directory containg libs is specified as -L/usr/X11R6/lib while
linking I get the above error.

ldconfig -p |grep *Xext* gives follwoing-

lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   14 Apr 10 19:49
libXext.so.6 -> libXext.so.6.3

In the /usr/X11R6/lib ls -lF *Xext* gives -

lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   14 Apr 10 19:49
libXext.so.6 -> libXext.so.6.3
-rw-r--r--1 root root44456 Feb 12  2001 libXext.so.6.3

I am stuck here ; if those libs are there & they are recognised by
ldconfig why I am getting that error. I had also specified the path by
using -L/usr/X11R6/lib. Still this problem is there.

Pls help me with this one.

And kindly cc me the replys.

Thanks.

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Re: XMMS and the new MP3 patent terms

[Balazs Javor]

Hi,

I've missed a couple of messages in this discussion, so sorry
if this was already mentioned before...

I'm not sure whether the administrative overhead makes this worth it,
but did it occure to someone, that somebody could sell the mp3 plugin
for XMMS or other players for a nominal fee of say USD 1, and then
pay the 75 cents to Thompson?

I know we all prefer free software, but if somebody has a larger
harddrive worth of mp3 collection then I'm sure the USD 1 is worth it.

Or otherwise agree with Thompson on a licence that would state that if
someone wants to use the player, then he needs to send a check about
USD 0.75 to Thompson :)

cheers,
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Re: real transparency (under X11)

[Robin]

if I recall correctly, the window manager in OSX uses double-buffering, 
and 10.2 uses GL to speed the transparancies.  however, it's not as fast...

Nicos Gollan wrote:

>On Sunday 01 September 2002 16:35, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
>  
>
>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>
>>Christian Schoenebeck  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I'm still waiting for the ability to use real transparency. What's
>>>the deal with this anyway? I mean, what is the problem that there's
>>>still only pseudo transparency?
>>>  
>>>
>>Someone has to design how this fits in with the existing X11
>>protocol, probably develop an extension, then write the code,
>>and invent and document an API for this.
>>
>>
>
>I think that's exactly what the XRender extension is supposed to do. It 
>works fairly well, but it does apparently still work with a snapshot to 
>create transparency. I don't know enough about the X11 protocol to say 
>anything definitive, but I think, part of the problem is that hidden 
>parts of the desktop are just not transmitted for a redraw which would 
>be necessary for true transparency to work.
>
>Another problem that's rather serious is the question "what for". IMHO, 
>that's the real problem hampering the development of such gimmicks.
>
>  
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I need information please!

[Marco Espinoza]

My name is Marco Espinoza and I'm from Peru. I've
visited your page and is very interesting.

I'm interested in knowing more about debian.
I would like you to send information about it, I mean,
its benefits and a complete information to my e-mail.

It would be better if you send it in Spanish because
Im from Peru and I speak Spanish (better).

Well, I thank you because of reading this mail and try
to answer as soon as possible because I have to
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[Marco Espinoza]

My name is Marco Espinoza and I'm from Peru. I've
visited your page and is very interesting.

I'm interested in knowing more about debian.
I would like you to send information about it, I mean,
its benefits and a complete information to my e-mail.

It would be better if you send it in Spanish because
Im from Peru and I speak Spanish (better).

Well, I thank you because of reading this mail and try
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could help me with the information. Thanks.

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Re: real transparency (under X11)

[Nicos Gollan]

On Sunday 01 September 2002 16:35, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>
> Christian Schoenebeck  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I'm still waiting for the ability to use real transparency. What's
> > the deal with this anyway? I mean, what is the problem that there's
> > still only pseudo transparency?
>
> Someone has to design how this fits in with the existing X11
> protocol, probably develop an extension, then write the code,
> and invent and document an API for this.

I think that's exactly what the XRender extension is supposed to do. It 
works fairly well, but it does apparently still work with a snapshot to 
create transparency. I don't know enough about the X11 protocol to say 
anything definitive, but I think, part of the problem is that hidden 
parts of the desktop are just not transmitted for a redraw which would 
be necessary for true transparency to work.

Another problem that's rather serious is the question "what for". IMHO, 
that's the real problem hampering the development of such gimmicks.

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Re: wget asp pages recursively?

[Mirko Parthey]

On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 08:36:11AM -0400, Michael D. Crawford wrote:
> Is there some way I can limit the URL's wget will follow?  Suppose all of my 
> pages have a URL like:
> 
> http://someplace.com/some.asp&ThisIsFixed=1&page=1
> 
> I would like to only download URLs that have "ThisIsFixed=1" in them.
> 
> What would be really cool is if one could get wget to test a URL with a regular 
> expression before downloading it, but I don't see a way to do that.  (I have 
> been studying the man page.)

The "-A ACCLIST" option might help, it accepts shell wildcards.

If you need regular expressions, have a look at pavuk.
This is a tool similar to wget and has lots of options.
If they still don't meed your needs, you can even plug in your own
scripts to decide for each URL seperately whether it should be
downloaded or used for recursion.
Also, it offers flexible renaming without breaking links (-fnrules
option). You can use the MIME type to set the file extension, although
this feature seems to be somewhat experimental.
I haven't tried the advanced options myself yet, I learned about them
from reading the manpage.

Cheers,
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Re: real transparency (under X11)

[Rob Hensley]

On Sun, 1 Sep 2002, Michael P. Soulier wrote:

> On 01/09/02 Miquel van Smoorenburg did speaketh:
>
> > Someone has to design how this fits in with the existing X11
> > protocol, probably develop an extension, then write the code,
> > and invent and document an API for this.
> >
> > Then all applications that want real transparency probably need to
> > be rewritten to take advantage of this.
> >
> > That's not something you do in a day. In fact, it's probably
> > not something you can do in a year.
>
> I thought that Rasterman was working on this, and that the latest version
> of Enlightenment had support for it. (17?)
>
> Mike
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True transparency (like that in OSX) has nothing to do with the WM itself,
it's an X11 issue. i don't know where it stands as of now, but i know it's
being worked on.


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Re: real transparency (under X11)

[Tinus Kotzé]

My guess to the real transparency is example, take a sound player and
play music so that there is as counter counting down. Move to so that it
is just above your 'K' or gnome foot, and then open the menu. You will
probably notice the time stopped ticking...

Real transparency is when they dont take a snapshot of the area on
screen that will be used when a menu opens and fade it with the menu to
be shown.

Tinus

On Sun, 2002-09-01 at 17:00, Kent West wrote:
> Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
> 
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >Christian Schoenebeck  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>I'm still waiting for the ability to use real transparency. What's the deal 
> >>with this anyway? I mean, what is the problem that there's still only pseudo 
> >>transparency?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Someone has to design how this fits in with the existing X11
> >protocol, probably develop an extension, then write the code,
> >and invent and document an API for this.
> >
> >Then all applications that want real transparency probably need to
> >be rewritten to take advantage of this.
> >
> >That's not something you do in a day. In fact, it's probably
> >not something you can do in a year.
> >
> >Mike.
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> I downloaded and burned a KNOPPIX CD this past week (it is way cool, btw 
> - higly recommended for demo-ing Linux and for emergency OS needs, like 
> for testing Windows-based PCs if you can't get hardware/network working 
> or you need to save files to the network on a hosed Windows system, 
> etc); I noticed that the KDE3 "K" menu had what I understand to be true 
> transparency; at least it was the same type of transparency I've seen on 
> Macintosh OS/X.
> 
> FYI.
> 
> Kent
> 
> 
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Re: raidhotadd and RAID1

[patrick]

--- Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> hi ya michael
> 
> -- looks like we have a mis-communication.. lets try it again
> 
> my understanding so far..
> 
> - you had sda and sdb running as raid1 ( mirroring ) before 
>   - if this not the case... all bets are off
> 
> - than sdb dies  you replaced it ...
> 
> and now we are trying to rebuild the raid1 as it should be
> ( that the system can boot off either sda or sdb
>   - simply doing something like  "hotswapadd /dev/sdb" 
>   will automatically do all the magic to rebuild the raid
>   as it was before the disk crashed
> 

Hi Alvin,

I've never heard of "hotswapadd", did you mean "raidhotadd" ?

I also have raid-1 problems. raid-0 gets started fine, but raid-1
starts in degraded mode, using only hde.  (started after I had to
rebuild the partition table on hdg)
I can manually raidhotadd /dev/md? /dev/hdg?
which restores the arrays fine, but it doesn't 'stick'.  I have to
raidhotadd after every boot.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
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can't detect device (savage S3 Savage4)

[boud]

Hi again,
   OK, thanks to those who said i needed to install
xserver-xfree86. :) i took the plunge into dselect, discovered the "/"
key to search for packages, and now i think it's installed OK. And i
know more than i did before about apt-get & dselect & Debian package
installation management. But... :(

= new problem =
It seems that the X server cannot find the device - short extract:

> (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0
> (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device
> (EE) No devices detected.
> 
> Fatal server error:
> no screens found

= Any hints on finding my device? =
i've included the config file and the log below. 

Since the graphics board is built-in to the motherboard, i don't
see how my vendor could have forgotten to include it...

Any hints on my next step would be welcome...


(From a bit of browsing, my guess is that the missing pex5 and xie 
modules can just be ignored. Is this right?) 


= /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 =

### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION
# XF86Config-4 (XFree86 server configuration file) generated by dexconf, the
# Debian X Configuration tool, using values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the XF86Config-4 manual page.
# (Type "man XF86Config-4" at the shell prompt.)
#
# If you want your changes to this file preserved by dexconf, only make changes
# before the "### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION" line above, and/or after the
# "### END DEBCONF SECTION" line below.
#
# To change things within the debconf section, run the command:
#   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
# as root.  Also see "How do I add custom sections to a dexconf-generated
# XF86Config or XF86Config-4 file?" in /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz.

Section "Files"
FontPath"unix/:7100"# local font server
# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load"GLcore"
Load"bitmap"
Load"dbe"
Load"ddc"
Load"dri"
Load"extmod"
Load"freetype"
Load"glx"
Load"int10"
Load"pex5"
Load"record"
Load"speedo"
Load"type1"
Load"vbe"
Load"xie"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
Driver  "keyboard"
Option  "CoreKeyboard"
Option  "XkbRules"  "xfree86"
Option  "XkbModel"  "pc104"
Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/psaux"
Option  "Protocol"  "GlidePointPS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Generic Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "SendCoreEvents""true"
Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "Generic Video Card"
Driver  "savage"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "PTS:1303"
HorizSync   30-60
VertRefresh 50-75
Option  "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier  "Default Screen"
Device  "Generic Video Card"
Monitor "PTS:1303"
DefaultDepth24
SubSection "Display"
Depth   1
Modes   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   4
Modes   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   8
Modes   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   15
Modes   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   16
Modes   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSect

Re: real transparency (under X11)

[Michael P. Soulier]

On 01/09/02 Miquel van Smoorenburg did speaketh:

> Someone has to design how this fits in with the existing X11
> protocol, probably develop an extension, then write the code,
> and invent and document an API for this.
> 
> Then all applications that want real transparency probably need to
> be rewritten to take advantage of this.
> 
> That's not something you do in a day. In fact, it's probably
> not something you can do in a year.

I thought that Rasterman was working on this, and that the latest version
of Enlightenment had support for it. (17?)

Mike

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Re: real transparency (under X11)

[Kent West]

Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:

>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Christian Schoenebeck  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>I'm still waiting for the ability to use real transparency. What's the deal 
>>with this anyway? I mean, what is the problem that there's still only pseudo 
>>transparency?
>>
>>
>
>Someone has to design how this fits in with the existing X11
>protocol, probably develop an extension, then write the code,
>and invent and document an API for this.
>
>Then all applications that want real transparency probably need to
>be rewritten to take advantage of this.
>
>That's not something you do in a day. In fact, it's probably
>not something you can do in a year.
>
>Mike.
>
>
>  
>
I downloaded and burned a KNOPPIX CD this past week (it is way cool, btw 
- higly recommended for demo-ing Linux and for emergency OS needs, like 
for testing Windows-based PCs if you can't get hardware/network working 
or you need to save files to the network on a hosed Windows system, 
etc); I noticed that the KDE3 "K" menu had what I understand to be true 
transparency; at least it was the same type of transparency I've seen on 
Macintosh OS/X.

FYI.

Kent



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Re: Mouse problem in X

[Vikki Roemer]

Anna Lawless wrote:

>I've used Mandrake for the last two years, but always wanted to
>move to Debian. I installed release 2r2 on my old box a year ago,
>but couldn't get my mouse to work in an x window, so moved back to
>another distro.
>
>I've just installed Woody on my main box. Everything went fine
>until I started an X session. Then... mouse pointer as
>windowmanager was loading, then pointer disappeared. The desktop
>menus open at random, it seems, I have a mouse pointer, but it's
>not working properly.
>
>I'm using XF86-4 with the Vesa driver for a nVideo Riva2 card. My
>mouse is a standard ps2 wheelmouse.
>
>This may be a hint as to what's gone wrong. I don't have the
>message to hand, I'm having to use windoze to send this. After
>starting X for the first time this was in the information on tty2.
>
>Generic mouse loaded
>Configured mouse loaded.
>
>So it seems that I have two mice in my config file. I'm guessing
>that that's causing a conflict.
>I'm a Debian newbie and don't have a great deal of experience with
>working with console apps. I don't know which editor would be best
>for me to read and edit my xf86-4 config file.
>  
>
Personally, I prefer emacs, but that's just me.

>Could anyone give me advise? In other Debian-based distros (storm
>and Corel) I've had no mouse problems. Could the two entries be
>the cause? And if I need to edit config files, which is the best
>console editor to use? I have even installed debian jr so I should
>have a good selection, but haven't a clue what is included in a
>standard debian installation and which is best for somebody who
>knows Linux to some extent but has always worked in a windowed
>environment.
>
>
>
>
>  
>
I have a wheel mouse, and I had similar problems.  There are a couple of 
things that could be going on, though-- I need to know whether gpm is 
running (type ps -A and that should tell you), and I need you to post 
your XF86Config-4 file.

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Re: WindowMaker

[jeff]

> I'm trying to add my own command to the Window Maker WM.
>
> What I'm tyring to do is add the ability to run a single command
> line from the F2 key.  This is simeilar to the functionality in
> KDE of the F2 button.
>
> Someone has recommended
>
>"Run..." SHORTCUT F2 SHEXEC %a(Run,Type command to run: )
>
> The only problem is that I really don't know where to put it.
>
>
> help?
>
> Personally, I think it would be pretty neat to put together
> something in the docs of the WindowMaker.  (I really hope I didn't
> miss seeing this file if it does exist, I'll feel really stupid.)

hey tom...here's a partial solution to your problem - i've used it quite
extensively and actually, it's saved me from using an 'f2' type command:

http://packages.debian.org/stable/x11/wmbutton.html

it's a really sweet dock-app that let's you configure 9 click-able buttons -
each with left/right/middle click configs so you actually have 27 choices
built into a little customizable dock-app.

good luck in your quest!

-jeff


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Re: Woody on Asus A7V333 with Promise FastTrak133 Controller

[Mark Lamers]

Op zo 01-09-2002, om 00:50 schreef Paul Galbraith:

> When I boot off the bf2.4 install floppies, however, my striped drive
> is not recognized (nor are the 2 physical drives, for that matter--no
> drive is recognized).  I haven't got any idea what to do from here...I
> flipped through the howto that describes boot options and nothing
> jumped out at me, and a search of the web and these archives didn't
> turn up anything helpful.
> 
> Does anyone have any idea how to force the bf2.4 install kernel to
> recognize my striped drive?  Cheers,
> 
in my case (an MSI mb it works with passing irq and io adresses at the
boot prompt.

hjlsvr:/home/mark# cat /etc/lilo.conf | grep append
# command line is given, other than one specified by an `append'
append="ide2=0xec00,0xe802,19 ide3=0xe400,0xe002,19 ide2=dma ide3=dma"
kernel 2.4.19 helps too :)

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Re: real transparency (under X11)

[Miquel van Smoorenburg]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Christian Schoenebeck  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm still waiting for the ability to use real transparency. What's the deal 
>with this anyway? I mean, what is the problem that there's still only pseudo 
>transparency?

Someone has to design how this fits in with the existing X11
protocol, probably develop an extension, then write the code,
and invent and document an API for this.

Then all applications that want real transparency probably need to
be rewritten to take advantage of this.

That's not something you do in a day. In fact, it's probably
not something you can do in a year.

Mike.


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Re: Mouse problem in X

[Kent West]

Anna Lawless wrote:

>
>
>I've just installed Woody on my main box. Everything went fine
>until I started an X session. Then... mouse pointer as
>windowmanager was loading, then pointer disappeared. The desktop
>menus open at random, it seems, I have a mouse pointer, but it's
>not working properly.
>  
>

Usually indicative of a bad protocol setting in either 
/etc/X11/XF86Config-4 or /etc/gpm.conf, or both.

>I'm using XF86-4 with the Vesa driver for a nVideo Riva2 card. My
>mouse is a standard ps2 wheelmouse.
>  
>

The protocol you probably want is "imps2" in /etc/gpm.conf, and "ImPS/2" 
in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.
NOTE: You may not be running gpm, in which case you can ignore the info 
about /etc/gpm.conf..

>This may be a hint as to what's gone wrong. I don't have the
>message to hand, I'm having to use windoze to send this. After
>starting X for the first time this was in the information on tty2.
>
>Generic mouse loaded
>Configured mouse loaded.
>
>So it seems that I have two mice in my config file. I'm guessing
>that that's causing a conflict.
>  
>
No; XF86Config-4 provides for two mouse settings, I suppose to account 
for those times when you might switch mice, like from a built-in on a 
laptop to an external. This shouldn't cause any problems.

>I'm a Debian newbie and don't have a great deal of experience with
>working with console apps. I don't know which editor would be best
>for me to read and edit my xf86-4 config file.
>  
>
vi, vim, emacs, nano, ae, mcedit, etc etc etc
mcedit will probably be the most familiar for those coming from MS-land




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WindowMaker

[Tom Allison]

I'm trying to add my own command to the Window Maker WM.

What I'm tyring to do is add the ability to run a single command 
line from the F2 key.  This is simeilar to the functionality in 
KDE of the F2 button.

Someone has recommended

   "Run..." SHORTCUT F2 SHEXEC %a(Run,Type command to run: )

The only problem is that I really don't know where to put it.


help?

Personally, I think it would be pretty neat to put together 
something in the docs of the WindowMaker.  (I really hope I didn't 
miss seeing this file if it does exist, I'll feel really stupid.)


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real transparency (under X11)

[Christian Schoenebeck]

Hi!

I'm still waiting for the ability to use real transparency. What's the deal 
with this anyway? I mean, what is the problem that there's still only pseudo 
transparency?

Regards,
Christian


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Re: How can I use RPM in debian - 3.0

[Elimar Riesebieter]

On Sun, 01 Sep 2002 the mental interface of damar thapa told:

> Hi,
> 
> I am trying to install hpbuilder-4.0-1.i386.rpm (trial
> version) in debian 3.0.
[...]

> And, is there any kit/kits that can convert .rpm file
> to .deb.  I saw one in RPM howto from .deb to .rpm.

apt-cache show alien

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How can I use RPM in debian - 3.0

[damar thapa]

Hi,

I am trying to install hpbuilder-4.0-1.i386.rpm (trial
version) in debian 3.0.

When I did 'rpm -ivh hpbuilder-4.0-1.i386.rpm', I get
the following message:

error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - No such
file or directory(2)
error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm

Seems, db3 package has to be installed? When checked
in the debian site, there is only db3-doc package, but
not db3. Where can I find it, if necessary, of course?
 

What about /var/lib/rpm? what does it mean?

Any pointers would be highly appreciated.

And, is there any kit/kits that can convert .rpm file
to .deb.  I saw one in RPM howto from .deb to .rpm.

Thanks.

Damar




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Re: XMMS and the new MP3 patent terms

[Isaac To]

> "Colin" == Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Colin> On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 01:25:39PM +0800, Isaac To wrote:
>> Hm... then we can make everybody "happy" (sort-of) by moving xmms
>> mpg123 module, mpg123 package and mpg321 package into non-free?

Colin> Not necessarily. If it is not legal to distribute the package at
Colin> all without paying a fee (and I'm not making any claims about
Colin> whether that's true or not in this case), then we cannot
Colin> distribute it even in non-free.

Ah... just forgot that the mpg321 package, etc., must be relicensed because
GPL states that in case of patent problem any distribution must be ceased.

Regards,
Isaac.


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Re: BCC: still exists in copy of TO:

[Miquel van Smoorenburg]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Waldemar Gorus  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I sent a mail to a second account of myself and a blindcarboncopy to
>another.
>I was surprised that the BCC: field exists in both. 
>I thought the BCC field shoudlnt appear in the copy of TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>I am using mutt and exim. exim is just a satelite and forward all mails
>to my internetprovider. Who has the misconfiguration? I am afraid its me.
>I checked the exm config without any results.

Mutt adds Bcc: lines by default to the headers, and exim doesn't
strip them off by default .. so in that case, you'll end up with
Bcc: lines in the message.

Add this to your .muttrc:

set write_bcc=no

That should have been the default, oh well ..

Mike.


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Re: BCC: still exists in copy of TO:

[Elimar Riesebieter]

On Sun, 01 Sep 2002 the mental interface of Waldemar Gorus told:

> Hello,
> 
> I sent a mail to a second account of myself and a blindcarboncopy to
> another.
> I was surprised that the BCC: field exists in both. 
> I thought the BCC field shoudlnt appear in the copy of TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You can even find the BCC header in mails to yourself?

> I am using mutt and exim. exim is just a satelite and forward all mails
> to my internetprovider. Who has the misconfiguration? I am afraid its me.
> I checked the exm config without any results.
> 
> BTW: I send a blindcarboncopy of this mail to myself.

Didn't find a BCC in your header!

Ciao

Elimar

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Re: XMMS and the new MP3 patent terms

[W. Paul Mills]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joey Hess) writes:

> [1  ]
> Isaac To wrote:
>> If you look at the license of non-free software in the Debian archive and
>> read the copyright file of each of them, you can find that they allow the
>> binary code to be distributed in a Debian CD-ROM to be sold.  They become
>> non-free because of things like source code not provided, commercial *use*
>> (rather than distribution) restrictions, disallowing changes to the code,
>> etc.
>
> Well no, you'll find all of the restrictions you mention, but also
> restrictions on commerical sale.


> Restrictions on commercial sale violate point 1 of the DFSG, and such a
> violation alone is enough to put software into non-free. So be very careful
> before selling CD's of debian's non-free archive.

Thanks, that was my understanding.

And thanks for all the hard work you put in on Debian!

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BCC: still exists in copy of TO:

[Waldemar Gorus]

Hello,

I sent a mail to a second account of myself and a blindcarboncopy to
another.
I was surprised that the BCC: field exists in both. 
I thought the BCC field shoudlnt appear in the copy of TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am using mutt and exim. exim is just a satelite and forward all mails
to my internetprovider. Who has the misconfiguration? I am afraid its me.
I checked the exm config without any results.

BTW: I send a blindcarboncopy of this mail to myself. 

cu
Walde


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Re: Mouse problem in X

[Glyn Millington]

"Anna Lawless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I've used Mandrake for the last two years, but always wanted to
> move to Debian. 

Quite right too!!


> I'm using XF86-4 with the Vesa driver for a nVideo Riva2 card. My
> mouse is a standard ps2 wheelmouse.


Are you using gpm?  (Have you use of the mouse in a tty?)  
If so then you need to make your mouse device in XF86Config-4
/dev/gpmdata, and in /etc/gpm.conf  make sure that repeat_type=raw 

If that gives no joy post up your XF86Config-4 file.  

As for editors - dangerous question! - doesn't emacs21 come with Debian
Junior?

But whatever you do DON'T abandon Debian again - this is curable!



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Re: Help with patching kernel??

[David Z Maze]

Matthew Claridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 1. There's no /usr/src/linux directory. But I think thats normal
> because I've got a /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 directory with the
> kernel source tree underneath it

Yup, this is fine.  If you want to put your source somewhere besides
/usr/src, that's fine too.  :-)

> 2. There's no .config file that I can find with my current kernel
> configuration - I don't want to do this from scratch  if I can help
> it

The config file for your current kernel is probably in /boot/config-*;
you can copy it to .config in your kernel source tree and work from there.

> make xconfig

(Or 'make menuconfig', or even 'make config', any is fine though they
have different dependencies.)

> make -kpkg clean
> make -kpkg kernel_image modules_image

'make-kpkg', no space.  When you do 'make-kpkg kernel-image', you'll
probably need to run it with the 'fakeroot' command, and provide a
--revision, like so:

  make-kpkg clean
  fakeroot make-kpkg --revision=custom.1 kernel-image
  fakeroot make-kpkg modules-image

Also, 'make-kpkg modules-image' doesn't do anything unless you have
module source packages (e.g. lm-sensors, ALSA, openafs, ...) installed
under /usr/src/modules (or $MODULE_LOC).  It's safe to skip this step
if you don't need to run it; 'make-kpkg kernel-image' will build the
modules you've selected in the main kernel configuration.

> dpkg -i kernel_image modules_image
>
> to build and install the kernel???

Yup, sounds good.

> But like I said, I'm confused...(and scared!!! lol) As a newbie to
> Debian, should I just use the standard patch method until I'm more
> comfortable with the new stuff, or is it quite easy to get into it and
> do it the 'right' way??

IMHO building kernels with make-kpkg is easier (and saner) than using
the instructions that come with the kernel.  One big advantage: if you
screw it up and really really want the new kernel off of the system,
you can just 'dpkg --remove' it.  (And similarly, if you're building
up a nice collection of a half-dozen old kernels you never use, it's
easy to get rid of them.)  If you do want to install kernel modules
distributed in other Debian packages, make-kpkg is the best-supported
way to do this.

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Exim as a Mail HUB

[Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira]

Hi all,
anyone knows how to configure Exim to act as Mail HUB of multiple domains in 
Debian Potato/Debian?
Is it option 3 of eximconfig (==smarthost)?
TIA,Paulo Henrique

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Re: XMMS and the new MP3 patent terms

[Colin Watson]

On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 01:25:39PM +0800, Isaac To wrote:
> Hm... then we can make everybody "happy" (sort-of) by moving xmms mpg123
> module, mpg123 package and mpg321 package into non-free?

Not necessarily. If it is not legal to distribute the package at all
without paying a fee (and I'm not making any claims about whether that's
true or not in this case), then we cannot distribute it even in
non-free.

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SSL chat site?

[Michael D. Crawford]

Friends,

I would like to explain to someone who is unable to browse certain web sites how 
he can do so by using some software which is currently under beta test by a 
certain group of people who have a fondness for deceased bovines.

I'm not sure my friend has access to any software that will enable us to discuss 
this privately, which we will need to be able to do so I can get him set up 
without anyone objecting.

But very likely he has an SSL-enabled web browser.  If there are a site where we 
could chat back and forth by pasting text or HTML into a form that was encrypted 
to and from the server with HTTPS, we could talk privately.

Likely he'd later be able to help out other people who are having trouble 
viewing these same web sites.

Are there any sites like provide SSL-protected chat? It would also be best for 
the server to forget our text when we're done.

I'm afraid I'm not (yet) in a position to set up a server of my own, or I'd do 
it myself.

I could pay a reasonable amount to do this with a commercial site.

One can chat in the forums at sourceforge in SSL mode.  The conversation would 
be made public even though the transmission of the text would be private, but 
likely that would be OK, if neither of us identified who he was.  Unfortunately, 
sourceforge is one of the sites he is unable to access.  I cannot fathom why.

Yours,

Mike
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Re: XMMS and the new MP3 patent terms

[Sami Dalouche]

Why not just do as linus said : "let's not care about patents until they
bring problems."
You host everything in europe (still no patents..), and let's think about
that again
when europe enforces patents.

Sam
PS: I don't want to start a troll, I just feel that free software gets
threatened by US
patents and the only way to get rid of this problem is by ignoring it...

- Original Message -
From: "Isaac To" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 4:40 AM
Subject: Re: XMMS and the new MP3 patent terms


> > "W" == W Paul Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> W> Are you saying even remove from non-free? Some of us have good
reason
> W> to use MP3 files from 3rd parties. For example:
> W> http://www.banjonews.com/
>
> If you look at the license of non-free software in the Debian archive and
> read the copyright file of each of them, you can find that they allow the
> binary code to be distributed in a Debian CD-ROM to be sold.  They become
> non-free because of things like source code not provided, commercial *use*
> (rather than distribution) restrictions, disallowing changes to the code,
> etc.  This is not the case for MP3 code.  And in fact, I do think that
> patent encumbered things should be off from Debian once the patent holder
> starts to do something "real" with the patent, given that patents is the
> biggest threat to free software.
>
> You will be able to use MP3 players.  Given that the format is so popular,
> somebody is going to setup a site so that you can add a source line to
your
> /etc/apt/sources.list to download MP3 players, even if Debian finally
> decided to stop distributing them.  It just makes life of CD producers
> easier, by not forcing them to either pay Thomson or render their
> distribution less competitive by pruning those software.
>
> Regards,
> Isaac.
>
>
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Re: slow gl graphics

[Burkhard Ritter]

On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Geoff Crompton wrote:

[...]
>   I'm running xfree4. So do I need to get the deivce3dfx-source package,
>   and compile a module? I am running 2.4.18, does this include that
>   module already?
>   Are the libglide2 libraries what I want for xfree4?
> 
>   Thanks
>   Geoff
you don't need the device3dfx-source package with xfree4. your
xfree86config-4 should contain something like that:

Section "Device"
Identifier  "Voodoo3"
Driver  "tdfx"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load"dri"
Load"glx"
[...]
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Mode0666
EndSection

when you start x, the log should show some tdfx-infos.

you need to have libglide3 and xlibmesa3 installed. if you do a
glxinfo it's output should look like that:

name of display: :0.0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
client glx vendor string: SGI
client glx version string: 1.2
client glx extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
GLX extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
OpenGL vendor string: VA Linux Systems, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Voodoo3 20010501 x86/MMX
OpenGL version string: 1.2 Mesa 3.4.2
OpenGL extensions:
[...]

everything should work now (hopefully).

hope that helps.

burkhard


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Re: export won't work

[Russell]

Russell wrote:
> 
> "Eric G. Miller" wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 07:04:07PM +1000, Russell wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Why won't export work? When i run this
> > > bash script on debian 3:
> > >
> > > #!/bin/sh
> > > ABC=def
> > > export ABC
> > > exit 0
> > >
> > > when i type 'export', then ABC doesn't
> > > appear in the list of environment variables.
> >
> > A process can't change the environment of it's parent.  What are you
> > trying to do?
> 
> I'm trying to export a variable so that i can see what it was
> set to at that point in the script. What would be an easy way
> to do this, without using "source ./script" ? I don't want to
> use 'source', because i'd have to remove numerous exit statements,
> to prevent killing the current shell.

I'm getting too confused now. I could just use echo .
Time to stop i think;)


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Re: export won't work

[Russell]

"Eric G. Miller" wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 07:04:07PM +1000, Russell wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Why won't export work? When i run this
> > bash script on debian 3:
> >
> > #!/bin/sh
> > ABC=def
> > export ABC
> > exit 0
> >
> > when i type 'export', then ABC doesn't
> > appear in the list of environment variables.
> 
> A process can't change the environment of it's parent.  What are you
> trying to do?

I'm trying to export a variable so that i can see what it was
set to at that point in the script. What would be an easy way
to do this, without using "source ./script" ? I don't want to
use 'source', because i'd have to remove numerous exit statements,
to prevent killing the current shell.


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Re: X server configuration

[Burkhard Ritter]

On 31 Aug 2002, Bhupendra Kumar Patidar wrote:

> HI,
> I recently installed debian 2.2 releae 5. I am not able to 
> configure my x server so that i can run x windows. my 
> configuration is logitech mouse at ps/4, mercury mother board with 
> on board video card S3 savag4 LG studiowork  563A monitor, us 
> standard key board. I am using xf86cinfig program to configure. is 
> there any help on this.
> Thanks !
> bhupendra
post the log to enable others to help you. is your card supported? (i had
recently problems with onbord s3savages; i got it solved with the xfree4
framebuffer driver)


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Re: Mouse problem in X

[Burkhard Ritter]

On Sun, 1 Sep 2002, Anna Lawless wrote:

> I've used Mandrake for the last two years, but always wanted to
> move to Debian. I installed release 2r2 on my old box a year ago,
> but couldn't get my mouse to work in an x window, so moved back to
> another distro.
> 
> I've just installed Woody on my main box. Everything went fine
> until I started an X session. Then... mouse pointer as
> windowmanager was loading, then pointer disappeared. The desktop
> menus open at random, it seems, I have a mouse pointer, but it's
> not working properly.
> 
> I'm using XF86-4 with the Vesa driver for a nVideo Riva2 card. My
> mouse is a standard ps2 wheelmouse.
> 
> This may be a hint as to what's gone wrong. I don't have the
> message to hand, I'm having to use windoze to send this. After
> starting X for the first time this was in the information on tty2.
> 
> Generic mouse loaded
> Configured mouse loaded.
> 
> So it seems that I have two mice in my config file. I'm guessing
> that that's causing a conflict.
> I'm a Debian newbie and don't have a great deal of experience with
> working with console apps. I don't know which editor would be best
> for me to read and edit my xf86-4 config file.
editor: vi or emacs
you might be right. have a look at the config. it is mostly
self-explanatory, if not do a man XF86Config-4.
> 
> Could anyone give me advise? In other Debian-based distros (storm
> and Corel) I've had no mouse problems. Could the two entries be
> the cause? And if I need to edit config files, which is the best
> console editor to use? I have even installed debian jr so I should
> have a good selection, but haven't a clue what is included in a
> standard debian installation and which is best for somebody who
> knows Linux to some extent but has always worked in a windowed
> environment.

perhabs posting your xf86config-4 and the logfile might help others to
help you.


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