RE: listmaster helps not, maybe you will
> How will you ever be able to help anyone, if you only receive posts which > are replies to your posts ? > > Matt I read the postsings at google groups. I am a total newbie in debian. The activity is pretty high on this list (thanks God), and a week pause can lead to serious amount of mails. masta -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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"heavy lock contention"?
sorry this is not Debian question, but could you kindly explain "heavy lock contention", and especially the "heavy" in it? The standard piped streams, while safe and reliable, leave much to be desired in terms of their performance. Several factors contribute to this performance problem: Array-based operations simply call through to an inefficient byte-by-byte copy operation. This operation is itself synchronized, resulting in extremely heavy lock contention. __ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X - window manager - desktop
On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 01:35:33AM -0500, Bruce Park wrote: > the X? What exactly is a window manager? twm, enlightment, sawfish ... I The window manager handles things like window title bars, resizing, and other basic window elements. You can run X without a window manager, though you won't be able to manipulate windows easy or as extensively as you can with a window manager. > Then there is the desktop like gnome or kde which are just desktops. Can > anyone explain this to me? Desktop environments sit above the window manager similar to how window managers sit above X. The desktop environment provides things like iconic drag and drop representation of your filesystem, usually a Windows/Macish toolbelt, etc., oriented towards being a replacement to actually using the command line. Some people find desktop environments useful, I find them slow, bloated and a shiny, chrome waste of space. YMMV. -- .''`. Baloo Ursidae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than to fix a system msg11705/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
. XMMS icecast streaming was :" Elementary Woody Firewall with DSL"
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:37:00 -0500 Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This one time, at band camp, Dan Hunt said: > > Any suggestions on allowing streaming Audio through the Firewall to > > XMMS? > There is something new in iptables that wasn't in ipchains, that allows > connections already established. A line like: > $IPTABLES -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT > Will allow any already established connection through, even if that port > is otherwise firewalled. I have all ports set to drop (except ssh) on > my firewall, but this allows all the NAT'ed boxes behind it to do > whatever they need to do. > Steve I have a line almost exactly like that in the firewall, is the problem is not knowing how to to configure xmms to access the firewall OR how to open port 8080 on either box? Preferences/Input Plugins/MPG123/Streaming. Xmms MPG123 Configuration Streaming Tab. Proxy: checked use proxy Plug in the Host:192.168.0.1 and left the port set to 8080 Left the use authentication blank. Using info from Google, I Set up the browser so it knows what to do, but when I hit play on a website Listen tab the pop up box says "couldn't conect to host 192.168.0.1" That happens even when I save the url playlist to disk and load it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X - window manager - desktop
Hello all, I have a question regarding how linux sets up a GUI interface. As far as I can understand this, the first thing it needs to do is run the X server. I'm going to guess here and I will say that a window manager runs on top of the X? What exactly is a window manager? twm, enlightment, sawfish ... I guess some of these are the names and I've been using sawfish but I really can't say I know what it does. Then there is the desktop like gnome or kde which are just desktops. Can anyone explain this to me? bp _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: multi-TB diskarrays ???
On Thu, 2002-11-07 at 18:47, Michael D. Schleif wrote: > > "Michael D. Schleif" wrote: > > > > Having never done this with linux, I'm asking this at the lowest > > possible level to facilitate very exhaustive research: > > > > What do I need to know to design a debian fileserver attached to a 4-5TB > > diskarray? > > Yes, I am vague with this request. > > Fortunately, we are in a position to specify a very large ``fileserver'' > for storing a large and growing quantity of image files. > > Since we are in position to specify this beast, I do not want to taint > alternatives with any predisposition. My first vision is of a large and > complex nfs server, filesystems of which are to be mounted by several > medical imaging systems spread over a small campus of buildings > connected by GB fiber. This is not carved in stone; but, delivers a > glimpse of our task at hand. > > Basically, I need to do considerable research regarding maximum > filesize, maximum volume size, &c. Pointers to these issues are > welcome. Since it's a medical imaging repository (that has all *sorts* of legal pitfalls), I'd not even think about IDE... Lets see: 4TB, using 180GB disks gives us ceil(4096GB/180GB) = 23 disks. Given that you'll want hot-swapping RAID5 redundancy, let's bump that up to 29 disks. (You'll want one on-site just in case a disk pukes.) That's 5 "half-shelves", rounded to 3 shelves. Normally, you don't want to put more than 3 disks per SCSI controller, thus 10 SCSI controllers!! Then again, will this be mostly (1) write the image, (2) read it 2 or 3 times, then (3) store it for 7 years? In that case, loading the UW-SCSI3 controllers may just work, and then just 3 controllers would suffice. Of course, the more the merrier!! And if a controller does die, it minimizes the damage... Don't forget dedicated controller(s) for (parallel) tape backups. (Here's an idea: now that *cheap* 320GB IDE drives are out, backup your images [via NFS] to a separate server packed with IDE drives...) We have a tape silo that has ~100 SuperDLT tapes and 6 tape drives. All is bar-coded, automated, etc. Works with Alpha/VMS, but don't know if there's a Linux driver. This is the kind of hardware that you'll need for such disk farm. How many PCI slots to mid- or top-end x86 Compaqs & IBMs have? How much guaranteed uptime do you need? If it pukes at 10AM on a Monday, are you polishing your resume, and a dozen people need to get re-X-rayed, CAT scanned and MRIed? If so, I'd (really) look at Alpha/VMS or Tru64 for *BULLET-PROOF* filesystem clustering. Shoot (with a big pistol) one of the computers, and that other one doesn't bat an eye, and file integrity is maintained. Also, the clustering software allows the sysadmin to present the cluster to the world as a single node, and load-balances incoming IP connections. Thus, when you add a node (SCSI-clustering allows for 4 nodes), or when the aforementioned node gets shot, it is transparent to the world. Of course, you'll pay big bucks to HP/Compaq/DEC (mainly for disks, controllers, licenses, etc). The computers (probably DS10s) will be the least of your costs. Once it's all implemented, I'd love to hear how much you spent on it. If it's less than $75K, I'll be really surprised. Lastly, remember that file locking in NFS sucks, so you'd have to watch out for that... -- ++ | Ron Johnson, Jr. mailto:ron.l.johnson@;cox.net | | Jefferson, LA USA http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson | || | "they love our milk and honey, but preach about another| | way of living"| |Merle Haggard, "The Fighting Side Of Me"| ++ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anyone gotten PHP4 working under unstable?
Has anyone here gotten PHP4 to work under unstable with Apache? I've tried to follow the directions explicitly, but when I try to view a php file the browser (Galeon is what I'm using mostly, but Netscape 4.77 displayed the same behavior) I get a window asking whether to download the file. Lesse now, I'm using (all from sid): ii apache1.3.26-1.1Versatile, high-performance HTTP server ii apache-common 1.3.26-1.1Support files for all Apache webservers ii apache-doc1.3.26-1.1Apache webserver docs ii php4 4.2.3-3 A server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language In my /etc/apache/httpd.conf, the lines I've added / modified as per the directions are: LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so ... AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml .php3 AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps DirectoryIndex index.php index.phtml index.php3 index.html From what I could tell of the directions, this should do it. But I'm *still* getting the box asking if I want to download this. Near as I can tell Apache is just not parsing the php file. Did I miss something somewhere? I feel that I must have, but I just can't figure out what. -- Mike Werner KA8YSD | He that is slow to believe anything and | everything is of great understanding, '91 GS500E| for belief in one false principle is the Morgantown WV | beginning of all unwisdom. msg11700/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ip_forward - 2 nics [solved]
Kevin Coyner, 2002-Nov-07 22:15 -0500:
> Solved !!! Thanks much Jeff for helping out and getting me on the right
> path.
>
> It's as you suspected, the router didn't know about the 10.0.0.0 network
> so I had to have the proxy server sumida do NAT in order to convert from
> the 192.168.2.0 network to the 10.0.0.0 network. Probably obvious to
> some, but not to me in my first attempt at this.
>
> Since I've had my router assign a fixed IP of 192.168.2.150 to sumida's
> first NIC, I've gone with SNAT for the setup. And once that was
> decided, the key entry for iptables was ...
>
> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j SNAT --to ${NAT}
>
> ... with $NAT being 192.168.2.150 (the NIC connection to the internet).
>
> Again, thanks for your help.
>
> Kevin
No problem...that was fun!
jc
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Re: gpg key signing protocol question
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 01:27:46PM -0500, Robert L. Harris wrote: > If I don't though, gpg won't go look it up. Is this normal? Anyone > know the fix for this? I've poked around and prodded the options in > my muttrc and no-luck. It's not just Martin, anyone who's ID I don't > have on my ring already. This is normal. The fix is to edit your .gnupg/options to have something like the following... keyserver x-hkp://pgp.mit.edu keyserver x-hkp://wwwkeys.us.pgp.net keyserver-options auto-key-retrieve include-disabled include-revoked -- .''`. Baloo Ursidae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than to fix a system msg11698/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: public lending right
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 06:42:41PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > AFAIK, Debian CD sets usually don't contain non-free. Indeed, it's not > likely to be much of a problem for first-time users any more - the main > concern around the time of potato was Netscape, and Mozilla is a more > than adequate replacement now. I think this sorely underestimates user demand for flashplayer, acroread, and realplayer. Whoever maintains these packages needs to get cracking if they don't want them removed from stable and frozen soon according to DebianPlanet. Acroread is broken in sid, currently. I'd love to see something that works as well as acroread is supposed to, with a mozilla plugin, but isn't acroread. Is xpdf still a bit gimpy or is it a suitable replacement, now? If it is a suitable replacement, this is good news, acroread never worked as well as advertised, even under Windows. mplayer is a good start on a realplayer, The Playa and Windows Media Player replacement. It works exceptionally well. However, adding non-free codecs is non-trivial. I wish that this package would have something going for it similar to how CSS is (used?) to be installed: If you installed a dvd player, it would prompt you that if you wanted to install decss, you'd have to run a seperate script that would wget a custom deb and install it. Something like this should be done for the non-free codecs that mplayer can use. Flashturbation, unfortunately, is a reality on the web. Also unfortunate is the GPL'd shockwave flash player isn't quite up to the task. I'd love for this to be a suitable replacement to the non-free Macromedia version. -- .''`. Baloo Ursidae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than to fix a system msg11697/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: listmaster helps not, maybe you will
On Thu, 07 Nov 2002, masta_dry wrote: > Is it possible to get only those mails, which ones are replies to my question > only? I don't plan to have an extra e-mail account only for the list's mails. > I read the list rules, but found nothing about this. I hope something can be > done to avoid having about 100 mails a day. > Thanks in advance. > masta_dry Maybe there is a workaround ...you send mail to the list with a message-id including a valid fqdn. In your case it is: Message-Id: <20021107223131.LHUQ2706.viefep16-int.chello.at@there> So everyone replying to has this message-id as reference in his/her mail. Set up procmail to filter this mails to you mailbox and send the rest to where ever you want them to. Oliver -- ... don't touch the bang bang fruit -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: public lending right
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 05:12:22PM +, Chris Lale wrote: > I should think that first-time users would not worry that non-free .debs > were not included in the distribution. Is there any non-free software in > the distribution CD ISO files? If there is, is it possible to produce a > set of ISOs that do not contain any non-free software? AFAIK, no "official" CDs have non-free on them. > Another thought - the number of CDs (including source code) must be > around 15 for Woody 3.0. That many now? > Would it be sensible for a library to offer the > loan of, say, the first two binary CDs? I think this would be enough to The first binary CD alone will get you pretty far along, far enough that you have a more than complete system and it's not that terrible of a download to fill in the rest. -- .''`. Baloo Ursidae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than to fix a system msg11694/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: pam-ldap headaches
I am now starting to think this problem is not pam-ldap, if I set ssh up to use pam-ldap it connects, just won;t connect if being called by sendmail via sasl, if I find a solution I will post it to list. Thanks, STewart On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Stewart James wrote: > Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:26:27 +1100 (EST) > From: Stewart James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: pam-ldap headaches > Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:26:35 -0600 (CST) > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Hi, > > Attempting to get sendmail to authenticated vi sasl -> pam. > > Now I know that I am making it as far as pam in the authentication, but > pam_ldap is failing. The error is always: > cerberus sm-mta[9724]: pam_ldap: ldap_simple_bind Can't contact LDAP > server > > running ethereal I can see it lookup the LDAP host, but it never seems to > attempt to connect the ldap host. > > Has anyone else seen this. I have this behaviour occuring on woody sarge > and sid, so am really confident it's a user issue ;) any help would really > be appreciated. > > Thanks > > Stewart > > > > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problems with /var/lib/dpkg/...
It worked!!! Thank you very much!!! ... the speedy reply was much appreciated. Dave -Original Message- From: Osamu Aoki [mailto:nospam@;aokiconsulting.com]On Behalf Of Osamu Aoki Sent: November 7, 2002 6:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Problems with /var/lib/dpkg/... Hi On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 04:59:48PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello, > > I have been trying to install and use Debian on my desktop PC ( P3 667 ). I > have had Debian working on my server for about 2 years without any problems. Did you hit latest BASH bug? Get newer or older bash and install manually by copying /bin/bash manually from other machine. -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ + Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cupertino CA USA, GPG-key: A8061F32 .''`. Debian Reference: post-installation user's guide for non-developers : :' : http://qref.sf.net and http://people.debian.org/~osamu `. `' "Our Priorities are Our Users and Free Software" --- Social Contract -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: premature cp exit?
"Try" == Try KDE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Try> $ mount /mnt/floppy Try> $ cp some-big-fie /mnt/floppy Try> What I found is that cp returns immediately, and the floppy Try> drive's LED doesn't turn off until 5-10 seconds later. It Try> seems to me that cp copied the content to kernel and returned Try> without it being committed to the physical media. This could Try> be a wrong behavior considering that a bad media may later Try> fail the operation. What do you guys think about it? Is there Try> an option or something to force cp to wait? This is A Good Thing most of the time, and is exactly how the UNIX I/O system works normally. It is the reason why you are supposed to shut down the system gracefully, and not eject floppies before unmounting. The option you want is on mount, not on cp. mount -o sync /mnt/floppy It still will not prevent you from ejecting the floppy too early ;-) Nope, I did not try it (just don't have floppies handy right now). If it does not work be sure to holler, I'd be interested in knowing. Cheers! Shyamal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with new X 4.2
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002 20:46:54 +, Richard Kimber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Thu, 07 Nov 2002 20:14:13 + >Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> 2) (major) The mouse doesn't work! (PS/2 interface trackball on >> /dev/psaux (crwxrwxrwx)). As soon as you touch it, the pointer jumps >> to the top right hand corner of the screen and stays there no matter > >This sounds like you don't have the right entry in the X config file. In >the mouse section of mine I have: > > Option "Protocol" "Explorer PS/2" > >and you need to have whatever is the correct protocol entry for your >trackball (I can't help you with that, I'm afraid). > >- Richard. Thanks for the hint - tried other protocols (eventually, all of them); some give different results; none work properly. The trackball (Trust Ami Track Dual Scroll) claims to be IntelliMouse compatible, but that protocol doesn't work either. Trust don't support Linux at all; I didn't know that when I bought the trackball. Think it might be something to do with some form of handshaking. cat /dev/psaux, or hexdump /dev/psaux, gives loads of stuff with the trackball and nothing at all with an ordinary PS/2 mouse (genuine IBM) (which _does_ work in X). The trackball _does_ work in Windoze with just the bog-standard mouse driver (apart from the scroll wheels) so there can't be too far to go. Pigeon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pam-ldap headaches
> > > Just to reassure you that you're not going mad, I've found exactly the > same problem on my machines - pam_ldap will fail with the error "unable > to connect to ldap server", while all other applications on the machine > (including ldapsearch) quite happily converse with the ldap server. > I've found that restarting the ldap daemon, as well as waving dead > chickens, seems to fix the problem. Of course, if there's a more > permanent solution I'd love to hear it... Thank god I am not the only one. Unfortunately I have to schedule LDAP server down time, so restarting the server is not an option. Oh well, time to take the cobwebs off the C manuals and relearn how to program. CHeers, Stewart -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's the best way to contact someone knowledgeable on nis?
Neal Lippman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm trying to sort out a strange problem with nis - or at least, I think > it's with nis. I haven't been able to find answers, including with an > earlier post hear, so I was wondering if I could locate, perhaps, > someone knowledgeable in the internal workings of nis, but I don't know > how to go about that. Anyone with suggestions? > > The problem I have is strange. I use nis for lookups for passwd, groups, > hosts, etc, so that I can keep a central database on one server in my > home LAN and not have to duplicate accounts, etc. > > The problem is with /etc/services. When I set up nsswitch.conf to use > nis for servers, some commands no longer work properly. For instance, > apt-get. If I try apt-get update or apt-get upgrade, they fail, stating > that connections to my various apt sources are refused. However, when I > edit nsswitch.conf so that servers uses the local file instead of nis, > all works fine. I've tried ltrace'ing and strace'ing apt-get to see if I > can spot where the problem lies, unsuccessfully. The same thing happens > if I try to telnet to a specific port (eg telnet mail.foo.bar pop3), but > only when services is being delivered via nis. > > I'm at a loss to figure out why this is the case. A test program to use > getservicebyname works identically regardless of whether services is > handled by nis or not. > > Any thoughts? I'm reading a book on NIS and NFS so I suppose I'm somewhat knowlegable ;-) I had a similar problem when using nis_ldap (or something like that) after setting nisswitch.conf's services to ldap - I did not even have the services installed in the server so that is obviously why it was not working. However, if you are using the regular databases for the /etc files (services, hosts, etc), then there should be a group of "map" files that correspond to the files your NIS server exports to your clients. These are simply hash's so that the clients can quickly lookup information, such as the IP address of a host (in host.byname.db IIRC). Are all your map files created successfully? In the book, there was talk re-building the maps if you modify the files they are built from (/etc/hosts, etc). In the book, edition one, p. 58, After editing a map source file, building the map ... is done with make: cd /var/yp (editor [me!] comment: may be in another directory) make passwd(comment: Rebuilds only password map) make (comment: Rebuilds all maps that are out of date) (Hal Stern's Managing NFS and NIS, First Edition, O'Reilly, 1992) Elizabeth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gpg key signing protocol question
sean finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > hey all, > > so last night at the LISA 2002 conference in philly there was > quite a nice keysigning get-together, at which i exchanged > something like a dozen or two keys with other folks. now previously, > when i had signed keys with close friends, we'd just end up doing a > bunch of gpg --sendkeys and gpg --recvkeys and eventually stuff would > just kind of work, but i've gotten the impression that there's a > standard protocol for signing folk's keys--involving mailing the signed > key back to the owner of the key--is that the case? if so, what's the > specific process i should take? (specific commands would be great too:) http://www.debian.org/events/keysigning -- People said I was dumb, but I proved them! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: premature cp exit?
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 10:15:08PM -0500, Try KDE wrote: [ nice real name, Señor KDE ... ] > Hi, > > I've just observed something interesting on my PC. My machine is a > AMD1800+ with 1GB RAM, kernel 2.4.18. I have a floppy disk: >$ mkdosfs /dev/fd0 1440 >$ mount /mnt/floppy >$ cp some-big-fie /mnt/floppy > > What I found is that cp returns immediately, and the floppy drive's LED > doesn't turn off until 5-10 seconds later. It seems to me that cp copied > the content to kernel and returned without it being committed to the > physical media. This could be a wrong behavior considering that a bad > media may later fail the operation. What do you guys think about it? Is > there an option or something to force cp to wait? This is normal behavior in Unix ... writes go to the buffer. Buffers are synced to disc periodically. It's more noticeable on "slow" media like a floppy, but the same thing is happening every time you write a file on your fixed discs. Now you know why we have the admonition to never eject media that is still mounted. I don't see why bad media is an issue ... bad media will always cause an error whether writes are synchronous or not. -- Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:nnorman@;incanus.net Ozymandias I met a traveler from an antique land Who said: "Two vast and trunkless legs of stone Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand, Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown, And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command, Tell that its sculptor well those passions read Which yet survive (stamped on these lifeless things), The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed; And on the pedestal these words appear: 'My name is Ozymandias, king of kings; Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!' Nothing beside remains. Round the decay Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare The lone and level sands stretch far away." -- Percy Bysshe Shelley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sound enhancing software?
Hello all, I was wandering, what sound enhancing software are available for linux? I hate to make the comparison with Windows but one of the reasons why I keep it is because of soundblaster live's audio hq and sound mixer. bp _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
premature cp exit?
Hi, I've just observed something interesting on my PC. My machine is a AMD1800+ with 1GB RAM, kernel 2.4.18. I have a floppy disk: $ mkdosfs /dev/fd0 1440 $ mount /mnt/floppy $ cp some-big-fie /mnt/floppy What I found is that cp returns immediately, and the floppy drive's LED doesn't turn off until 5-10 seconds later. It seems to me that cp copied the content to kernel and returned without it being committed to the physical media. This could be a wrong behavior considering that a bad media may later fail the operation. What do you guys think about it? Is there an option or something to force cp to wait? Thanks, -tk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What's the best way to contact someone knowledgeable on nis?
I'm trying to sort out a strange problem with nis - or at least, I think it's with nis. I haven't been able to find answers, including with an earlier post hear, so I was wondering if I could locate, perhaps, someone knowledgeable in the internal workings of nis, but I don't know how to go about that. Anyone with suggestions? The problem I have is strange. I use nis for lookups for passwd, groups, hosts, etc, so that I can keep a central database on one server in my home LAN and not have to duplicate accounts, etc. The problem is with /etc/services. When I set up nsswitch.conf to use nis for servers, some commands no longer work properly. For instance, apt-get. If I try apt-get update or apt-get upgrade, they fail, stating that connections to my various apt sources are refused. However, when I edit nsswitch.conf so that servers uses the local file instead of nis, all works fine. I've tried ltrace'ing and strace'ing apt-get to see if I can spot where the problem lies, unsuccessfully. The same thing happens if I try to telnet to a specific port (eg telnet mail.foo.bar pop3), but only when services is being delivered via nis. I'm at a loss to figure out why this is the case. A test program to use getservicebyname works identically regardless of whether services is handled by nis or not. Any thoughts? NL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pam-ldap headaches
Begin Stewart James quotation: > > from the servers that do NOT work can you try something like > > > > ldapsearch -b "o=vu.edu.au" -LLL -H "ldap://ldap.vu.edu.au:389/"; > > '(objectClass=*)' -x > > Tested all of that. This is why the problem is giving me nightmares. All > of the servers that I have tried actually have other apps on them that > utilise ldap. > > It's really bizarre. I keep coming back to the fact the when I run > ethereal on the machine running pam_ldap I never see it even attempt to > open a connection to the ldap server. > Just to reassure you that you're not going mad, I've found exactly the same problem on my machines - pam_ldap will fail with the error "unable to connect to ldap server", while all other applications on the machine (including ldapsearch) quite happily converse with the ldap server. I've found that restarting the ldap daemon, as well as waving dead chickens, seems to fix the problem. Of course, if there's a more permanent solution I'd love to hear it... Martin -- pgp public key at http://ocsc.ormond.unimelb.edu.au/~mstrauss/pgp_key.asc or send email with subject: request key Key fingerprint: C1C3 0D9B 8874 2181 F9DC DCCE 22A2 ECB5 4410 5F14 http://quiz.ravenblack.net/blood.pl?bite=JuniorMonkey -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS/E/MU d? s: a--- C UL+$ P++ L++(+++) E--- W+++ N+++ o+ K? w--- O- M-- V- PS+++ PE Y++ PGP+++ t- 5- X- R+++ !tv b DI+++ D+(+++) G e* h++ r% y+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- msg11682/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: pam-ldap headaches
> from the servers that do NOT work can you try something like > > ldapsearch -b "o=vu.edu.au" -LLL -H "ldap://ldap.vu.edu.au:389/"; > '(objectClass=*)' -x > Tested all of that. This is why the problem is giving me nightmares. All of the servers that I have tried actually have other apps on them that utilise ldap. It's really bizarre. I keep coming back to the fact the when I run ethereal on the machine running pam_ldap I never see it even attempt to open a connection to the ldap server. I'll just have to devote some serious time to the problem and sort out why, again thanks fo rthe help ;) Cheers, Stewart -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: multi-TB diskarrays ???
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 06:47:50PM -0600, Michael D. Schleif wrote: > > "Michael D. Schleif" wrote: > > > > Having never done this with linux, I'm asking this at the lowest > > possible level to facilitate very exhaustive research: > > > > What do I need to know to design a debian fileserver attached to a 4-5TB > > diskarray? > > Yes, I am vague with this request. > > Fortunately, we are in a position to specify a very large ``fileserver'' > for storing a large and growing quantity of image files. > > Since we are in position to specify this beast, I do not want to taint > alternatives with any predisposition. My first vision is of a large and > complex nfs server, filesystems of which are to be mounted by several > medical imaging systems spread over a small campus of buildings > connected by GB fiber. This is not carved in stone; but, delivers a > glimpse of our task at hand. > > Basically, I need to do considerable research regarding maximum > filesize, maximum volume size, &c. Pointers to these issues are > welcome. I haven't seen anyone answer this yet ... here's the result of some fast googling: http://www.linuxcare.com/about-us/collateral/whitepapers/linux24-b-appendix-tables.epl http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/features.html Hope this helps ... -- Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:nnorman@;incanus.net I retract that silly statement. Somebody slap me. -- Roy Smith -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading, getting the package
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 06:55:22AM -0500, Seneca wrote: > On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 12:03:01PM +0200, Laura Rudmin wrote: > > I generally use dselect, not understanding the apt-* system (not for > > want of trying, but the documentation is completely opaque to me. > > Sorry, there seems to be a density barrier there as of right now. > > Maybe in a year I'll understand it...) > > As far as non-command-line goes, I prefer aptitude. As far as command-line goes, I prefer aptitude. Try `aptitude update` followed by `aptitude upgrade`. It's nifty. Simon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: multi-TB diskarrays ???
On Thursday 07 November 2002 06:58 pm, Michael D. Schleif wrote: [snip] > > -- you would obviously need ext3 or reiserfs ... > > > > Yes, which filesystem is a good question; but, which one? > There's a useful overview of the different JFSes including links to benchmarks and the suchlike at: http://bulmalug.net/body.phtml?nIdNoticia=1154 Personally, I use ext3 for simplicity's sake (only ~300G of disc to worry about), but there is a big performance price to pay for that simplicity. I've never used any of the others, but I get the general impression (from comments that have passed by my eyeballs) that: - Reiserfs is nice but hasn't got all the quirks ironed out - XFS is pretty solid - Derek -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ip_forward - 2 nics [solved]
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 09:00:07PM -0500, Kevin Coyner wrote..
>
> > Oh! Oh! Oh! The router doesn't know about the 10.0.0.0 network. It
> > needs a static route to 192.168.2.150 to reach the 10.0.0.0/24
> > network. That's why! The traffic leaves fine, the router doesn't
> > know where to send the responding traffic to reach 10.0.0.?.
>
>
> So does this mean I need to set up NAT/Masquerading on the proxy box
> 192.168.2.150/10.10.10.10? In that way it will be hiding/translating
> all of the 10.0.0.0 network clients from the router ...?
>
> Hm ... maybe gettting close.
Solved !!! Thanks much Jeff for helping out and getting me on the right
path.
It's as you suspected, the router didn't know about the 10.0.0.0 network
so I had to have the proxy server sumida do NAT in order to convert from
the 192.168.2.0 network to the 10.0.0.0 network. Probably obvious to
some, but not to me in my first attempt at this.
Since I've had my router assign a fixed IP of 192.168.2.150 to sumida's
first NIC, I've gone with SNAT for the setup. And once that was
decided, the key entry for iptables was ...
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j SNAT --to ${NAT}
... with $NAT being 192.168.2.150 (the NIC connection to the internet).
Again, thanks for your help.
Kevin
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Re: multi-TB diskarrays ???
"Michael D. Schleif" wrote: > Surely, this much disk will tax hardware and firmware resources > differently than a 9GB drive ;> Should read: Surely, this much disk will tax soft-ware and firmware resources differently than a 9GB drive ;> -- Best Regards, mds mds resource 888.250.3987 Dare to fix things before they break . . . Our capacity for understanding is inversely proportional to how much we think we know. The more I know, the more I know I don't know . . . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: multi-TB diskarrays ???
Alvin => Thank you, for your participation . . . Alvin Oga wrote: > > hi ya michael > > > "Michael D. Schleif" wrote: > > > > > > Having never done this with linux, I'm asking this at the lowest > > > possible level to facilitate very exhaustive research: > > > > > > What do I need to know to design a debian fileserver attached to a 4-5TB > > > diskarray? > > > > Yes, I am vague with this request. > > nothing special about it being debian... ``nothing'' ??? I suspect that there is alot that I need to know, which I do not currently know, regarding debian and that much disk ;> Can we be so lucky that I already know everything? > -- with 4TB of data... you should be more worried about backups >and redundancy ... > -- how to backup 4TB of data ... and keep data in sync Yes, we are aware of these. Hardware solutions are abundant at an incredible range in prices! Nevertheless, without an os, how can we use it? Surely, this much disk will tax hardware and firmware resources differently than a 9GB drive ;> > -- test any and all debian packages on a test box ..before applying > -- you would obviously(?) need raid5... High quality, high capacity, hot swappable scsi drives with raid5 -- nothing less will do. > -- you would obviously need ext3 or reiserfs ... Yes, which filesystem is a good question; but, which one? Also, ought we to use a volume manager? Which one? > -- hardware raid5 or software raid5 ??? h/w > -- testing your finished 4TB server > -- pull the power cord > -- see what kind of problems you get... > -- disconnect one of the disks ... see if boots in degraded mode > -- replace the disk in the 4TB server ... see if it will resync > itself ... ok > http://www.Linux-Backup.net -- backup stuff > http://www.Linux-1U-Raid5.net --- raid stuff Yes, must investigate these . . . -- Best Regards, mds mds resource 888.250.3987 Dare to fix things before they break . . . Our capacity for understanding is inversely proportional to how much we think we know. The more I know, the more I know I don't know . . . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Stuck on the hard drive partitioning when installing ppc.
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 05:41:31PM -0800, Fierce Silver wrote: > I'm having a lot trouble installing Linux on my ppc. > I'm stuck on the hard drive partitioning. I've read > your installation manual and played around with it. > But nothing seems to work. Can you e-mail me step by > step instructions on how to successfully get through > the hard drive partition step. > > > Thank for the help in advance. > It might be easier if you post here what error messages you get. -- Shaul Karl, [EMAIL PROTECTED] e t -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pam-ldap headaches
Stewart James said: > > I am so sorry, I just realised why I was not seeing my posts in the > archives. Helps if you change to most recent pages. I was posting without > being a member and thought maybe debial was dropping my posts for some > reason), my last post was being a member. well glad i really am not crazy!! You didn't mention you were not on the list, if you had I [cw]ould of cc:'d you. > I am doing nothing especially difficult. All were done with simple > installing libpam-ldap following the prompts. > > Of 5 machines I have tried this on only one is working. The others all > give the error ldap_simple_bind: cannot connect to server. > > My config is simple > host ldap.vu.edu.au > base o=vu.edu.au > ldap_version 3 > port 389 > pam_password clear from the servers that do NOT work can you try something like ldapsearch -b "o=vu.edu.au" -LLL -H "ldap://ldap.vu.edu.au:389/"; '(objectClass=*)' -x this should spew out everything in your LDAP database. if you get an error, try turning on debug mode, i use -d 256 at first then jump to -d 65536. if it works try putting this line in your /etc/pam_ldap.conf: uri ldap://ldap.vu.edu.au:389/ (in addition to all the others) if it doesn't connect, sounds like there could be some sort of firewall or other mechanism preventing connection. > Watching the network, I can see pam_ldap doing a lookup for ldap.vu.edu.au > - and getting a result, it looksup a record for ldap.vu.edu.au then > for ldap.vu.edu.au.its.vu.edu.au then finally looks up A for > ldap.vu.edu.au and gets an IP address. But it never attempts to connect. > > For some reason, and I don;t know why ldap_simple_bind fails without > attempting to connect the host. not sure either, but doing a ldapsearch SHOULD produce the same results as what pam_ldap does, and you can turn on debugging to see whats going on. good luck nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: powerpc
On 11/7/02 4:50 PM, "Joyce, Matthew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have a couple of Mac PowerPC 7200/200 or similer, will these run Debian ? > Are they comparable to say a P200 or more like a 486 ? Or what ? > > Thanks > > Matt > Matt, Those are PCI-based, so installing Debian is at least possible, but they're old enough that I would expect some kinks along the way. The folks on the debian-ppc list should be able to give you more details. They're at least comparable to a P200. Good luck, Bill -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pam-ldap headaches
I am so sorry, I just realised why I was not seeing my posts in the archives. Helps if you change to most recent pages. I was posting without being a member and thought maybe debial was dropping my posts for some reason), my last post was being a member. So to the entire list, I apoligise for my multiple posts. Back to the problem I am having. I am doing nothing especially difficult. All were done with simple installing libpam-ldap following the prompts. Of 5 machines I have tried this on only one is working. The others all give the error ldap_simple_bind: cannot connect to server. My config is simple host ldap.vu.edu.au base o=vu.edu.au ldap_version 3 port 389 pam_password clear No TLS or SSL is being used at this point. my /etc/pam.d/smtp is the sample one. auth sufficient pam_ldap.so auth required pam_unix.so nullok try_first_pass THis configuration is working on another machine. I have even gone over one of the machines ensuring the package versions, and their dependencies match. Watching the network, I can see pam_ldap doing a lookup for ldap.vu.edu.au - and getting a result, it looksup a record for ldap.vu.edu.au then for ldap.vu.edu.au.its.vu.edu.au then finally looks up A for ldap.vu.edu.au and gets an IP address. But it never attempts to connect. For some reason, and I don;t know why ldap_simple_bind fails without attempting to connect the host. I will keep nuttering this out, thatnks for trying to help, and again sorry for the multiposts. Cheers, Stewart On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, nate wrote: > Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:52:31 -0800 (PST) > From: nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: pam-ldap headaches > Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:53:35 -0600 (CST) > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Stewart James said: > > > Has anyone else seen this. > > > yes I have seen your post 3 times. At first I thought I was going > crazy so I verified it in the archives. Posting multiple times is > not the best way to get a response. > > I responsed to your original request, but did not notice any replies > back. Your problem seems simple to solve. > > my reply: > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200211/msg00995.html > > nate > > > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ip_forward - 2 nics
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 05:33:19PM -0800, Jeff wrote.. > Kevin Coyner, 2002-Nov-07 16:55 -0500: > > > > On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 12:20:52PM -0800, Jeff wrote.. > > > > > > > > sumida:/etc/init.d# cat /proc/net/ip_conntrack > > > > > > > > udp 17 9 src=10.10.10.156 dst=192.168.2.254 sport=1059 dport=53 > > > > [UNREPLIED] src=192.168.2.254 dst=192.168.2.254 sport=53 dport=1059 > > > > use=1 > > > > udp 17 17 src=10.10.10.156 dst=167.206.112.4 sport=1061 dport=53 > > > > [UNREPLIED] src=167.206.112.4 dst=192.168.2.254 sport=53 dport=1061 > > > > use=1 > > > > > > > > The first destination (192.168.2.254) is the router. The second dest is > > > > a DNS server on the outside world. In both cases the [UNREPLIED] > > > > message is appended. Is that the proxy box 'not replying'? > > > > > > Ah, when you ping the world, are you pinging using a domain name or an > > > IP? > > > > I'm using an IP, not a domain name. It seems to try the ICMP ping packet > > first > > > > icmp 1 29 src=10.10.10.156 dst=66.70.90.121 type=8 code=0 id=22790 > > [UNREPLIED] src=66.70.90.121 dst=10.10.10.156 type=0 code=0 id=22790 > > use=1 > > udp 17 8 src=10.10.10.156 dst=167.206.112.3 sport=1112 dport=53 > > [UNREPLIED] src=167.206.112.3 dst=10.10.10.156 sport=53 dport=1112 use=1 > > > > and then when it doesn't get a reply, it tries sending a udp packet > > to the DNS server (I've no idea why it does this). > > > > Separately, I'm able to sit at sumida the proxy box and ping everything > > and anything, both by ip and DN. > Oh! Oh! Oh! The router doesn't know about the 10.0.0.0 network. It > needs a static route to 192.168.2.150 to reach the 10.0.0.0/24 > network. That's why! The traffic leaves fine, the router doesn't > know where to send the responding traffic to reach 10.0.0.?. So does this mean I need to set up NAT/Masquerading on the proxy box 192.168.2.150/10.10.10.10? In that way it will be hiding/translating all of the 10.0.0.0 network clients from the router ...? Hm ... maybe gettting close. Kevin -- Kevin Coyner mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG key: 1024D/8CE11941 msg11669/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
# Re: procmail slow email delivery
Hi Ric, fetchmail runs on host "otte" and delivers mail to "ric@otte" on otte via esmtp. exim gets the mail, and tries to deliver to ric@otte. Unfortunately, your exim setup does not recognize otte as a local domain. It forwards this to your smarthost, smtp.ucsc.edu. My guess is that smtp.ucsc.edu takes its own time, but it knows that ric@otte is really [EMAIL PROTECTED] It forwards to the mail exchanger (cats-mx2.ucsc.edu) for ucsc.edu, which promptly uses smtp to deliver the mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] at otte.ucsc.edu (you lucky university people with real IP addresses and hostnames). It all fits, except one thing: you said when you took .procmailrc out everything worked. That screws my whole theory, because I don't see .procmailrc being invoked that first time *unless* you mailed out the logs in the wrong order or something. Anyway, keep at it. I think your are almost there with a real solution. Let us know the local_domains entry in exim.conf Cheers! Shyamal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: multi-TB diskarrays ???
hi ya michael > "Michael D. Schleif" wrote: > > > > Having never done this with linux, I'm asking this at the lowest > > possible level to facilitate very exhaustive research: > > > > What do I need to know to design a debian fileserver attached to a 4-5TB > > diskarray? > > Yes, I am vague with this request. nothing special about it being debian... -- with 4TB of data... you should be more worried about backups and redundancy ... - how long can that 4TB server be offline due to disk failures or other cpu/mb/memory failures -- how to backup 4TB of data ... and keep data in sync - should be automated disk-to-disk copy or some like disk-to-tape copies - have at least 3 servers with the same data to make sure you do NOT lose any data ... due to drunk electrons going over the cliff -- test any and all debian packages on a test box ..before applying any patches... as you cannot afford to lose 4TB of data ?? ( test on a 500GB raid5 or something ) --- better testing --->> better reliability -- you would obviously(?) need raid5... - scsi3 -->> largest disks is say 180GB or 360GB scsi - ide --> largest is about 200GB some are 240G or 300GB ( bleeding edge means you'd know what to do if it dont work ) -- what is your budget ??? that would dictate ide vs scsi -- you would obviously need ext3 or reiserfs ... - you dont want to be sitting there fsck'ing your 4TB of data -- hardware raid5 or software raid5 ??? -- depends on what you are doing for the extra 1,000 in hw costs ( do you notice any performance difference ?? -- the $1,000 hw raid can be used to buy a 2nd set of 1TB of backup disks instead ( more important ?? ) -- testing your finished 4TB server -- pull the power cord -- see what kind of problems you get... -- disconnect one of the disks ... see if boots in degraded mode -- replace the disk in the 4TB server ... see if it will resync itself ... -- san disks of 1TB system is too too much $$$ ( $1M per TB ?? )... -- simple raid would suffice :-) -- lots of work you got ahead of you.. http://www.Linux-Backup.net -- backup stuff http://www.Linux-1U-Raid5.net --- raid stuff have fun alvin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unidentified subject!
I'm having a lot trouble installing Linux on my ppc. I'm stuck on the hard drive partitioning. I've read your installation manual and played around with it. But nothing seems to work. Can you e-mail me step by step instructions on how to successfully get through the hard drive partition step. Thank for the help in advance. __ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ip_forward - 2 nics
Kevin Coyner, 2002-Nov-07 16:55 -0500: > > On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 12:20:52PM -0800, Jeff wrote.. > > > > > > sumida:/etc/init.d# cat /proc/net/ip_conntrack > > > > > > udp 17 9 src=10.10.10.156 dst=192.168.2.254 sport=1059 dport=53 > > > [UNREPLIED] src=192.168.2.254 dst=192.168.2.254 sport=53 dport=1059 > > > use=1 > > > udp 17 17 src=10.10.10.156 dst=167.206.112.4 sport=1061 dport=53 > > > [UNREPLIED] src=167.206.112.4 dst=192.168.2.254 sport=53 dport=1061 > > > use=1 > > > > > > The first destination (192.168.2.254) is the router. The second dest is > > > a DNS server on the outside world. In both cases the [UNREPLIED] > > > message is appended. Is that the proxy box 'not replying'? > > > > Ah, when you ping the world, are you pinging using a domain name or an > > IP? > > I'm using an IP, not a domain name. It seems to try the ICMP ping packet > first > > icmp 1 29 src=10.10.10.156 dst=66.70.90.121 type=8 code=0 id=22790 > [UNREPLIED] src=66.70.90.121 dst=10.10.10.156 type=0 code=0 id=22790 > use=1 > udp 17 8 src=10.10.10.156 dst=167.206.112.3 sport=1112 dport=53 > [UNREPLIED] src=167.206.112.3 dst=10.10.10.156 sport=53 dport=1112 use=1 > > and then when it doesn't get a reply, it tries sending a udp packet > to the DNS server (I've no idea why it does this). > > Separately, I'm able to sit at sumida the proxy box and ping everything > and anything, both by ip and DN. > > > I appears you are using a domain name and it's not getting resolved. > > According to he cat above, your router is may be droping the DNS > > requests. Could this router be doing a DNS proxy? Try setting the > > DNS IP on your client and sumida to 192.168.10.254 and see if it > > works. Also, where did 192.168.2.254 come from? According to you > > original post, the network between sumida and the router is > > 192.168.10.0. > > I tried changing the ip's for the DNS as you suggested ... no success. > The network was 192.168.10.0. As part of mucking up the whole system, I > changed it at one point. It is now 192.168.2.0. I'm quite sure that I > was consistent with my changes throughout both boxes. > > > One last thing, can you client ping 192.168.10.254? That would prove > > that sumida is forwarding. > > The client is not able to ping 192.168.2.254 (used to be > 192.168.10.254). It can, however, ping the sumida the proxy box, both by > IP and by pinging sumida the DN. > > Banging head against wall at this point. This should be > straightforward. Oh! Oh! Oh! The router doesn't know about the 10.0.0.0 network. It needs a static route to 192.168.2.150 to reach the 10.0.0.0/24 network. That's why! The traffic leaves fine, the router doesn't know where to send the responding traffic to reach 10.0.0.?. This has to be it! jc -- Jeff CoppockSystems Engineer Diggin' Debian Admin and User -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: encrypting a single file
Osamu Aoki, 2002-Nov-07 14:18 -0800: > > Is there something else that's needed for emacs21? I'm having > > trouble: > > > > $ gpg -c file.txt > > passphrase: > > reenter : > > $ ls > > file.txt.gpg > > $ emacs -nw file.txt.gpg > > > > emacs asks for the "encryption key", so I enter the passphrase, > > because if I hit "return to ignore" is see the scrambled data. After > > entering the passphrase, emacs reports "Searching for program: no such > > file or directory, crypt". > > Did you make gpg key and made available in your home directory in their > default location with proper permission. (~/.gnupg/ exist?) Yes, it exists: $ ls -la ~/.gnupg/ total 28 drwx--2 jeff jeff 4096 Nov 7 13:18 . drwxr-xr-x 38 jeff jeff 4096 Nov 7 13:07 .. -rw-r--r--1 jeff jeff 4342 Nov 7 13:08 gpg.conf -rw-r--r--1 jeff jeff 4342 Nov 7 13:07 options -rw-r--r--1 jeff jeff0 Nov 7 13:07 pubring.gpg -rw---1 jeff jeff 600 Nov 7 13:18 random_seed -rw---1 jeff jeff0 Nov 7 13:07 secring.gpg However, I have not generated a key pair. Do I need that to encyrpt/decrypt local files? jc -- Jeff CoppockSystems Engineer Diggin' Debian Admin and User -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mods needed for iptables
On Fri, 2002-11-08 at 03:17, Kevin Coyner wrote: > > What mods are needed for iptables in the case of a very simple setup > where I have a transparent proxy server between my router and my > clients? > > The ones I have in there now are: > > ip_conntrack_irc2496 0 (unused) > ip_conntrack_ftp3232 0 (unused) > ip_conntrack 12972 2 (autoclean) [ip_conntrack_irc > ip_conntrack_ftp] > iptable_filter 1728 0 (autoclean) > ip_tables 10528 1 [iptable_filter] > > Does that cover it? > > I've no need for NAT or DHCP as my router does all of that for me. afaik, iptables loads his modules automatically. the only ones you need to load manually are those for ftp (unless you want to use passive ftp) and irc nat. > > Thanks > Kevin > > -- > > Kevin Coyner > mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > GnuPG key: 1024D/8CE11941 Bye -- Haim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bayesian Mail Filter
I have been using bmf to filter spam, for about a week now. It is superb. I know I am still receiving spam, but I don't care as I don't have to sort through heaps of crap anymore. Credit where credit is due, it really does work. I have fetchmail->exim->procmail->bmf->courier-imap Anyway the .deb is here http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=63555&release_id=11746 2 Matt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mods needed for iptables
What mods are needed for iptables in the case of a very simple setup where I have a transparent proxy server between my router and my clients? The ones I have in there now are: ip_conntrack_irc2496 0 (unused) ip_conntrack_ftp3232 0 (unused) ip_conntrack 12972 2 (autoclean) [ip_conntrack_irc ip_conntrack_ftp] iptable_filter 1728 0 (autoclean) ip_tables 10528 1 [iptable_filter] Does that cover it? I've no need for NAT or DHCP as my router does all of that for me. Thanks Kevin -- Kevin Coyner mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG key: 1024D/8CE11941 msg11661/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: procmail slow email delivery
"Ric" == Ric Otte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ric> Here is an example of a couple of lines from the exim/mainlog Ric> file: > 2002-11-07 11:21:51 189sDv-0005au-00 <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=otte > (localhost) [127.0.0.1] P=esmtp S=6906 > id=p05111a0ab9f066d9996b@[128.114.181.73] > 2002-11-07 11:21:53 189sDv-0005au-00 => ric@otte R=smarthost > T=remote_smtp H=smtp.ucsc.edu [128.114.129.35] > 2002-11-07 11:21:53 189sDv-0005au-00 Completed As Stephen Gran already pointed out, exim is working just fine. It gets your mail, and promptly mails it off to ric@otte. Some time later (I guess your fetchmail poll period is 10 minutes or so?) you get the mail back, but this time it delivers locally. Since you say that the delivery works when you take out your .procmailrc file I'd suspect your exim set up is okay. Look at the procmail rules very carefully to see that they don't forward. I know very little about your network and domain names, but I notice from the above that your fetchmail script seems to be delivering to "ric@otte" over "here" the first time. Exim sends this off to the smart host, probably because it does not have otte listed as a "local domain." The second time fetchmail is delivering to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" and it is working. Probably because you do have otte.ucsc.edu listed as a local domain in exim.conf. You have some very funny interactio between exim (which knows your local domain), fetchmail (which decides your local user name to deliver to) and procmail. Do you have two NIC cards or something? I notice in your next delivery that exim says: H=cats-mx2.ucsc.edu (ucsc.edu) [128.114.129.35] while the first time it was localhost. Frankly, I'm confused.perhaps you can provide us some more information along these lines? /Shyamal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Send a remote command?
on Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 03:43 PM -0800, Mike Egglestone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Quoting nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Osamu Aoki said: > > > > > man ssh > > > man ssh-agent > > > > > > I never used but debian web server mirrorsuses this to push content. > > > > > Hi, > I looked at the man page for ssh-agent but I'm not sure how to use > it to restart a squid daemon. > Any quick examples? Digest version: - ssh-agent creates a socket which handles ssh requests. - ssh-agent creates two environment variables, SSH_AUTH_SOCKET (which tells you where your socket is) and SSH_AGENT_PID (the process ID of the ssh-agent process, mostly so you can hunt it down and kill it if needs be). - ssh-add is used to store key(s) in the ssh-agent process. - An ssh command checks to see if SSH_AUTH_SOCK is set, and if keys are available. If so, it attempts authenticates via ssh-agent. Effectively, you'll type 'ssh remotehost' and get a shell on the remote host without being prompted for a password, or 'ssh remotehost command', and you'll execute 'command' on the remote host without being prompted for authentication. Sort of like the bad old days of rsh, except that your session is encrypted, authenticated, and secured via ssh-agent/ssh. There's a slight misconception running around that ssh-agent can only be used by child processes of the initial ssh-agent spawning process. This isn't true, though because of environment inheritence, it's rather more _convenient_ to do this. Otherwise, you have to hunt for the appropriate socket and supply its value to your local environment by other means. If you're running X11 from a display manager ([gkwx]dm), you're likely already running ssh-agent, and can activate it by running 'ssh-add' and supplying an appropriate passphrase. I'd gotten hung up on this for ages, thinking that ssh-agent was somehow securing my X11 process. It's not. It's just that running 'ssh-agent windowmanager' is a convenient way to ensure that all child processes of your window manager can access the ssh-agent. For more on this, see: http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SshAgent Peace. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] FreeRun Technologies Sr. Systems Administrator vox 707.265.1836 x121 http://www.freeruntech.com There are two times when a man doesn't understand a woman -- before marriage and after marriage. msg11659/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: pam-ldap headaches
Stewart James said: > Has anyone else seen this. yes I have seen your post 3 times. At first I thought I was going crazy so I verified it in the archives. Posting multiple times is not the best way to get a response. I responsed to your original request, but did not notice any replies back. Your problem seems simple to solve. my reply: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200211/msg00995.html nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tcpdump question
Hello, i have used tcpdump to get my ssh connection going on the server. While doing that i saw a certain address poping up that was rejected by my shorewall firewall. I knew this ip address from when the server was a suse server. It always tries to talk to the server every 2 minutes. excerpt tcpdump: 10.95.11.80 > ALL-SYSTEMS.MCAST.NET: igmp query v1 [ttl 1] Since the address is local i think it's something my isp sends out. Does anybody have a clue for this is meant? Should i let it through? Also, i saw other lines like this: xxx.y.isp.be.domain > .be.32780: 54307 1/3/2 PTR[|domain] (DF) .be.32780 > xxx.y.isp.be.domain: 54308+ PTR? 80.11.95.10.in-addr.arpa. (42) (DF) Any idea what this is? What does the (DF) mean? Is there a way i can detect if a connection is accepted by the firewalls iptable rules and see where it originated from? Thanks for any info. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: multi-TB diskarrays ???
"Michael D. Schleif" wrote: > > Having never done this with linux, I'm asking this at the lowest > possible level to facilitate very exhaustive research: > > What do I need to know to design a debian fileserver attached to a 4-5TB > diskarray? Yes, I am vague with this request. Fortunately, we are in a position to specify a very large ``fileserver'' for storing a large and growing quantity of image files. Since we are in position to specify this beast, I do not want to taint alternatives with any predisposition. My first vision is of a large and complex nfs server, filesystems of which are to be mounted by several medical imaging systems spread over a small campus of buildings connected by GB fiber. This is not carved in stone; but, delivers a glimpse of our task at hand. Basically, I need to do considerable research regarding maximum filesize, maximum volume size, &c. Pointers to these issues are welcome. Also, I hope to find people with actual experience along these lines; preferably beginning a dialog in a forum such as this. Yes, we are aware of other issues, such as backup, failover, &c. Comments about these are also welcome. Ideas? Care to share your experience? What do you think? -- Best Regards, mds mds resource 888.250.3987 Dare to fix things before they break . . . Our capacity for understanding is inversely proportional to how much we think we know. The more I know, the more I know I don't know . . . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: listmaster helps not, maybe you will
How will you ever be able to help anyone, if you only receive posts which are replies to your posts ? Matt > -Original Message- > From: masta_dry [mailto:masta_dry@;freemail.hu] > Sent: Friday, 8 November 2002 9:32 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: listmaster helps not, maybe you will > > > Is it possible to get only those mails, which ones are > replies to my question > only? I don't plan to have an extra e-mail account only for > the list's mails. > I read the list rules, but found nothing about this. I hope > something can be > done to avoid having about 100 mails a day. > Thanks in advance. > masta_dry > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pam-ldap headaches
Hi, Attempting to get sendmail to authenticated vi sasl -> pam. Now I know that I am making it as far as pam in the authentication, but pam_ldap is failing. The error is always: cerberus sm-mta[9724]: pam_ldap: ldap_simple_bind Can't contact LDAP server running ethereal I can see it lookup the LDAP host, but it never seems to attempt to connect the ldap host. Has anyone else seen this. I have this behaviour occuring on woody sarge and sid, so am really confident it's a user issue ;) any help would really be appreciated. Thanks Stewart -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Send a remote command?
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 03:59:21PM -0800, nate wrote: > Colin Watson said: > > Then you use a restricted key. Your authorized_keys file at the remote end > > looks something like this: > > > > command="bsmtp-pull-server",no-pty,no-port-forwarding ssh-rsa > > cool! i had not heard about that being possible before, I must look > into that! The documentation's in sshd(8) under "AUTHORIZED_KEYS FILE FORMAT". Have fun. :) Actually, I need to add no-X11-forwarding and no-agent-forwarding to a few places after re-reading that. -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
unclean netsaint removal
Hi, i installed and afterwards purged netsaint/unstable. However, it didn't want to go cleanly :-) A lot of files related to this package remain on the system. For instance there's a aolserver thingie that gets installed and that is still on the system, symlinks to this aolserver are still there and so on. Is there a package/utility that searches the system for files/dirs that don't belong to any package anymore and then lists or better deletes them? I thought of deborphan but when i tried it it merely listed a few obsolete libs. Anyway, i was quite surprised to see the package didn't remove cleanly at all. Any help is appreciated. Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Send a remote command?
Colin Watson said: > Then you use a restricted key. Your authorized_keys file at the remote end > looks something like this: > > command="bsmtp-pull-server",no-pty,no-port-forwarding ssh-rsa cool! i had not heard about that being possible before, I must look into that! thanks! nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Send a remote command?
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 03:39:28PM -0800, nate wrote: > this is a good method, another is to create passphrase-less RSA(ssh1) > or DSA(ssh2) keys. that way SSH (either native or using rsync with > ssh) does not prompt for a password. Seconded. > I would only do this on trusted systems however. One slipup can reveal > your key to an intruder then they have easy access to all the other > servers. Then you use a restricted key. Your authorized_keys file at the remote end looks something like this: command="bsmtp-pull-server",no-pty,no-port-forwarding ssh-rsa B3NzaC1yc2EBIwAAAIEA5QLS+9Sxp/F1I3LjTxHoChbw6aK5KchSfoKLOOqXACkGE349LT5Wk9OsUFoHDw/ek8qOvsLoRczpEsaqLmRmueRr2KzXGmfHdKfvPpzv0JkBvloGF71VeE6Z+4ezOqqcjLBiJE3nxUYuR3siR0hAt0g5QURhMl0icEHeyLkuvIU= cjwatson@riva That allows the named key to connect only for the purpose of running the command 'bsmtp-pull-server'. The key should still be kept secure of course, but the consequences of a compromise aren't quite so bad. -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Send a remote command?
Quoting nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Osamu Aoki said: > > > man ssh > > man ssh-agent > > > > I never used but debian web server mirrorsuses this to push content. > > Hi, I looked at the man page for ssh-agent but I'm not sure how to use it to restart a squid daemon. Any quick examples? Mike - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Send a remote command?
Osamu Aoki said: > man ssh > man ssh-agent > > I never used but debian web server mirrorsuses this to push content. this is a good method, another is to create passphrase-less RSA(ssh1) or DSA(ssh2) keys. that way SSH (either native or using rsync with ssh) does not prompt for a password. ssh-agent still requires you to input the password once, I haven't looked into it much yet but from what I've heard the password is only stored for that one session, if you logout, the passphrase is erased which makes it difficult for automated tasks(especially accross reboots and such). I have used SSH w/RSA passphrase-less authentication extensively both with ssh, with scp, and with rsync-over-ssh and it works wonderfully. I would only do this on trusted systems however. One slipup can reveal your key to an intruder then they have easy access to all the other servers. One thing I usually do on systems like this is restrict logins to RSA(or DSA) only, so that it is very difficult(if not impossible) to login to the system if you don't have a key(even if you have the passwords it won't help). Protecting the key is very important though. I use SSH RSA authentication for things like propogating antivirus updates, doing backups(using rsync), distributing updates to big brother clients, automated copying of files around for other reasons. Its great. only thing I wish SSH could do(but I've never gotten to work) is to copy a file between hosts like scp host:/path/to/file host2:/path/to/newfile I usually make my ~/.ssh directorys chmod 500, and my ~/.ssh/authorized_keys files chmod 400. ssh always errors out though for me :( nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: listmaster helps not, maybe you will
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 11:31:05PM +0100, masta_dry wrote: > Is it possible to get only those mails, which ones are replies to my question > only? I don't plan to have an extra e-mail account only for the list's mails. > I read the list rules, but found nothing about this. I hope something can be > done to avoid having about 100 mails a day. > Thanks in advance. > masta_dry You are not supposed directly reply back personally on mailing list (Although I do that for first poster on non Linux environment) I suggest you to get free web mail client if your net connection is expensive. OOps you seem to be doing... Even outlook can separate mail by the header. So you should think about it too. Osamu -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ + Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cupertino CA USA, GPG-key: A8061F32 .''`. Debian Reference: post-installation user's guide for non-developers : :' : http://qref.sf.net and http://people.debian.org/~osamu `. `' "Our Priorities are Our Users and Free Software" --- Social Contract -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installing window managers ...
Hi, On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 10:44:53PM +, daves debian wrote: > I can configure extra session types via KDE controll centre. > They then come up on the KDM graphical menu for login. > > On red hat I then modified > /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession > and added a line for my newly installed window manager > saying if session is fluxbox, call fluxbox etc > > HOWEVER I cant figure it for debian ?? > any ideas where the debian script is ? > /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession in debian doesnt make any sense to me !! I spent good amount of time recently to see how best I can configure X on Debian. I have summarized it in Chapter 9 of below document. Use version on qref.sf.net and give me a feed back :-) (Debian ones are slightly old) -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ + Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cupertino CA USA, GPG-key: A8061F32 .''`. Debian Reference: post-installation user's guide for non-developers : :' : http://qref.sf.net and http://people.debian.org/~osamu `. `' "Our Priorities are Our Users and Free Software" --- Social Contract -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Send a remote command?
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 03:14:31PM -0800, Mike Egglestone wrote: > Hi, > Does anyone know of a way to send a remote command > to a woody box? > I would like to have box A restart a daemon process on box B all automagically? > This even possible? My bet is man ssh man ssh-agent I never used but debian web server mirrorsuses this to push content. -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ + Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cupertino CA USA, GPG-key: A8061F32 .''`. Debian Reference: post-installation user's guide for non-developers : :' : http://qref.sf.net and http://people.debian.org/~osamu `. `' "Our Priorities are Our Users and Free Software" --- Social Contract -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: networking woes with 2.4 kernel
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 10:52:21AM -0800, Jeff Cours wrote: > Hi, everyone - > > I'm in the process of building a new Windows/Linux dual-boot > workstation, and I'm running into a problem with networking. The brief > summary of the problem is that I can get Ethernet and TCP/IP working > under the 2.2 kernel series, but not under the 2.4 kernel series. It's a kernel module issues. Read chapter 7's lower half in my reference at qref.sf.net -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ + Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cupertino CA USA, GPG-key: A8061F32 .''`. Debian Reference: post-installation user's guide for non-developers : :' : http://qref.sf.net and http://people.debian.org/~osamu `. `' "Our Priorities are Our Users and Free Software" --- Social Contract -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Manually starting X
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 10:10:48AM -0800, Joe Riel wrote: > I have installed a basic X system (Woody stable). > When the system boots, the gui login window comes up. > When the window manager (twm) is shutdown, > the screen goes black and the login window does not reappear. > > To get back into X I have to open a terminal console, login as root, > and reboot the machine. Needless to say, this isn't convenient. > As a workaround, I'm wondering how to change the init procedure > so that X does not start (I tried removing the S99Xdm script in > /etc/rc2.d; that did prevent X from starting but running startx > had problems; I'm guessing parts of S99Xdm script > must be run). Lazy ass way is put exit 0 on the top of init.d/xdm script OS independent way is s/S??xdm/K??xdm/ in /etc/rc.d/ Real way is use update-rc.d in Debian. > Any suggestions on the proper way to setup the box > so that it doesn't auto-start X? Even better would be > a suggestion for getting the gui login window back; however, > I suspect that that is related to the problem I with not > being able to reconnect to X via Alt-F7. Above will do that Use startx to start X I just updated Chapter 9 in my reference which now have ample info on how to set up X customized per user. See below qref.sf.net URL. Cheers :-) -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ + Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cupertino CA USA, GPG-key: A8061F32 .''`. Debian Reference: post-installation user's guide for non-developers : :' : http://qref.sf.net and http://people.debian.org/~osamu `. `' "Our Priorities are Our Users and Free Software" --- Social Contract -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Send a remote command?
Hi, Does anyone know of a way to send a remote command to a woody box? I would like to have box A restart a daemon process on box B all automagically? This even possible? Here's an example. I have one debian server with a .txt file on it as reference for a squid acl. This file needs to be updated everynow and then. I have over 50 squid boxen that need this updated file. The plain thing to do would be to have the 50 servers download the .txt file and restart the squid daemon. However, it would be nice to have the one box with the .txt file "push" the file down to the other 50 and have squid restarted. This way, I don't have to login to 50 servers and create crontabs for each. Unless I could just scp a cron file to each server. Any ideas? Thanks for your time! Mike - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Manually starting X
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 02:44:21PM -0800, Leo Spalteholz wrote: > On November 7, 2002 13:04, Bob Proulx wrote: > > Joe Riel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-07 10:10:48 -0800]: > > > I have installed a basic X system (Woody stable). > > > When the system boots, the gui login window comes up. > > > > Which gui? xdm, kdm, or gdm, or other? > > > > > When the window manager (twm) is shutdown, > > > the screen goes black and the login window does not reappear. > > > > Ouch. Something is certainly wrong. > > I had the same problems. I think it was actually a kde 2.2 thing for > me. Every so often the screen would just go black on logout and I > would have to kill X. Upgrading to KDE 3.x solved the problem. > > Also I've never gotten xdm to work. If it starts automatically I cant > log in. I enter the correct username and password but it just > doesn't start my window manager and stays at the password screen. > kdm works just fine. This was the same on both my machines, XP 1600+ > and Celery 333. My XDM (Sarge or Woody) froze the system many times and I had to press real reset button. Good thing I have EXT3. After upgrading to unstable with new bug-free BASH, I am happy.) Well I have apropos segfaults but it is OK :-) I have X4.2 too. -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ + Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cupertino CA USA, GPG-key: A8061F32 .''`. Debian Reference: post-installation user's guide for non-developers : :' : http://qref.sf.net and http://people.debian.org/~osamu `. `' "Our Priorities are Our Users and Free Software" --- Social Contract -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: listmaster helps not, maybe you will
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 11:31:05PM +0100, masta_dry wrote: > Is it possible to get only those mails, which ones are replies to my question > only? No. Perhaps you might prefer to subscribe to the digest version of the list, or you could ask for replies to be copied to you (not everyone will, but a courteous request will often be honoured). Cheers, -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: public lending right
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 17:00:18 -0800 From: Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [big snips here & below] >> On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 05:52:33PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: >>> Paul Johnson writes: >>> Non-free would be too much legal effort for a library to go through. >>> I don't see why a public library even in the UK couldn't lend non-free. >>> How would it differ from lending out a non-free book (i.e., the usual >>> kind)? >> It wouldn't surprise me if some packages have some goofball >> redistribution clauses, like "May not charge for redistribution." >> Well, what happens when someone doesn't turn it back in on time? They >> get charged. > No package in Debian can have such a clause. See: http://www.debian.org/social_contract.html#guidelines Suppose that at the end of the lending period the library demands back only the CD _disk_ -- not the program, which has merely gone along for the ride. (As Huck Finn said of certain woodpiles, you could throw a dog through that argument anywhere. Forget I mentioned it.) Wendell Cochran West Seattle -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xserver-xfree86 and GeForce 2 MX 400
On Fri, 8 Nov 2002 02:42:31 +1100, Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 02:08:47AM +, Pigeon wrote: >> From README.cirrus out of XF86 4.2: >> >On older chips, the use of a higher dot clock frequencies has a negative >> >effect on the performance of graphics operations... >> I guess the "natural" resolution & speed is that which gives the >> "best" compromise between refresh rate and drawing performance. It's >> probably that which Windoze calls the "optimal" rate. > >I'd say this is fairly moot once you're getting into AGP 2x video cards >with hundreds of MIPS of on-board CPU with dozens of megabytes of >extremely fast RAM :) > >-rob Agree, but the concept is still around, as are slower video cards. On my SiS6326, the latest X won't use 100Hz for 800x600 unless I tell it to with a ModeLine; by default it uses 85Hz; if I try telling X that my monitor won't accept anything lower than 100Hz (as a fudge to avoid calculating a ModeLine), it won't start. AFAI can see it would use the same "default rate" even if I had a faster card. Pigeon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Strange problem w/Ripping CDs
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:50:22 +1100, Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 04:45:59AM +, Pigeon wrote: >> This also solves the problem which occurs when both drives are >> ide-scsi, >> namely that the symlinks can get swapped around on bootup depending on >> which drive happens to have a readable CD in it. (I must be missing >> something here...) > >That's really weird. I've got a Teac CD drive and an LG CD-RW drive on >the same IDE bus, using SCSI emulation. They've _never_ come up in a >different order. > >-rob Mine are on different IDE buses - CDROM as primary slave and CDRW as secondary master. Maybe this makes a difference? Though I'd guess it'd be the other way round. With both on ide-scsi and set to automount in /etc/fstab, /dev/cdrom linked to /dev/scd0 and /dev/cdrw to /dev/scd1; I boot with both empty, cdrom is emulated scsi device 0:0:0 and cdrw 0:1:0. I boot with cdrom empty and a readable CD in cdrw, cdrw comes up as 0:0:0, cdrom as 0:1:0. Result: /dev/cdrom ends up pointing to my CDRW. Pigeon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Erfahrung mit Debian auf Dell-Laptops
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:59:11 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren >wir haben im Laptop-Umfeld die Produkte von DELL - Latitude C6xx im Einsatz. >Sind beim Einsatz dieser Produkte Probleme bekannt, da wir DEBION auf diesen >Geräten evt. als Entwicklungsplattform nutzen wollen? >Eine kurze Information wäre hilfreich und könnte uns unter Umständen sehr viel >Testaufwand ersparen! > > > >Mit freundlichen Gruessen > >Beate Stadler Bitte zum deutschen List schreiben! Think she's asking: They want to ship Dell Latitude C6xx laptops with Debian installed; are there any known problems with this combination; any information could save them loads of testing. Pigeon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] XWindows modelines from Windoze video modes
My monitor stores its screen geometry adjustments in non-volatile memory. It analyses the incoming video signal in order to select the correct set of geometry settings for the video mode it's getting. Unfortunately, it has a very small NVRAM and can only store settings for 4 modes. X uses somewhat different timings for the same nominal screen res / refresh rate as I use in Windoze, so the monitor thinks it's a different mode. The result is that when I set up the geometry correctly for X, I lose my Windoze settings, and vice versa. This is a bit of a long shot, but does anyone (?who has had the same problem?) have a util that can extract the video card settings that Windoze is using, so I can generate a ModeLine for my XF86Config? Thanks! Pigeon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: capturing the screen on video
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:53:43 -0500, Martin F Krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi there, > >Is there a tool I can use to capture whatever my monitor displays to >video? Thank you for any pointers! Graphics card with TV out connected to VCR? Nothing's going to give a very good result, because the resolution of a TV video signal sucks. Good enough for games, which is why such graphics cards exist - that and DVDs which are at TV res anyway. Pigeon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with /var/lib/dpkg/...
Hi On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 04:59:48PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello, > > I have been trying to install and use Debian on my desktop PC ( P3 667 ). I > have had Debian working on my server for about 2 years without any problems. Did you hit latest BASH bug? Get newer or older bash and install manually by copying /bin/bash manually from other machine. -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ + Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cupertino CA USA, GPG-key: A8061F32 .''`. Debian Reference: post-installation user's guide for non-developers : :' : http://qref.sf.net and http://people.debian.org/~osamu `. `' "Our Priorities are Our Users and Free Software" --- Social Contract -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: procmail slow email delivery
This one time, at band camp, Ric Otte said: > On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 09:47:24PM -0600, Shyamal Prasad wrote: > > Have you watched the exim log (tail -f /var/log/exim/mainlog) when > > fetchmail fetches your mail? If not, perhaps exim is doing some sort > > of network lookup that delays it? > > > I did that and also monitored procmail.log at the same time. What I > found was that after the mail made it to my machine via fetchmail, I > would get an entry in exim/mainlog. But it wouldn't show up on > procmail.log for a long time, and I don't even think that it is being > sent to procmail right away. Later on, I get another entry for the same > messge in exim/mainlog, and then it goes to procmail.log. So it looks > to me like it is sitting around in exim for several minutes. Here is an > example of a couple of lines from the exim/mainlog file: > > 2002-11-07 11:21:51 189sDv-0005au-00 <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=otte > (localhost) [127.0.0.1] P=esmtp S=6906 > id=p05111a0ab9f066d9996b@[128.114.181.73] > 2002-11-07 11:21:53 189sDv-0005au-00 => ric@otte R=smarthost > T=remote_smtp H=smtp.ucsc.edu [128.114.129.35] > 2002-11-07 11:21:53 189sDv-0005au-00 Completed This is exim emailing the message off to ric@otte, using smtp.ucsc.edu as a smart host. Do you have a rule in a .forward or something telling exim to do this? This is the problem here - there is no delay on the local system, but a delay until the next fetchmail run picks up your message from cats-mx2.ucsc.edu. I think you ned to look into either a .forward rule, something strange in your .procmail, or perhaps exim doesn't understand the hostname of your box, and is treating that address as remote. > > I do not really know what all of the stuff in the entries mean, but it > does look like it is only being sent to procmail 11 minutes after it > first got to exim. I'm not sure what it was doing in the meantime. > What makes it even more puzzling, is if I take out the .procmailrc file, > then there is no delay (but the mail isn't sorted). Any insight? > Thanks, > > Ric Steve -- Guns don't kill people. It's those damn bullets. Guns just make them go really really fast. -- Jake Johanson msg11632/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
powerpc
I have a couple of Mac PowerPC 7200/200 or similer, will these run Debian ? Are they comparable to say a P200 or more like a 486 ? Or what ? Thanks Matt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
test email
test email, pls ignore -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
installing window managers ...
I can configure extra session types via KDE controll centre. They then come up on the KDM graphical menu for login. On red hat I then modified /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession and added a line for my newly installed window manager saying if session is fluxbox, call fluxbox etc HOWEVER I cant figure it for debian ?? any ideas where the debian script is ? /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession in debian doesnt make any sense to me !! many thanks dave -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Manually starting X
On November 7, 2002 13:04, Bob Proulx wrote: > Joe Riel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-07 10:10:48 -0800]: > > I have installed a basic X system (Woody stable). > > When the system boots, the gui login window comes up. > > Which gui? xdm, kdm, or gdm, or other? > > > When the window manager (twm) is shutdown, > > the screen goes black and the login window does not reappear. > > Ouch. Something is certainly wrong. I had the same problems. I think it was actually a kde 2.2 thing for me. Every so often the screen would just go black on logout and I would have to kill X. Upgrading to KDE 3.x solved the problem. Also I've never gotten xdm to work. If it starts automatically I cant log in. I enter the correct username and password but it just doesn't start my window manager and stays at the password screen. kdm works just fine. This was the same on both my machines, XP 1600+ and Celery 333. leo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: encrypting a single file
On November 7, 2002 02:28 pm, Jeff wrote: > emacs asks for the "encryption key", so I enter the passphrase, > because if I hit "return to ignore" is see the scrambled data. After > entering the passphrase, emacs reports "Searching for program: no such > file or directory, crypt". Actually the same thing happens to me, even after apt-get install crypt++el -- -Levi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
listmaster helps not, maybe you will
Is it possible to get only those mails, which ones are replies to my question only? I don't plan to have an extra e-mail account only for the list's mails. I read the list rules, but found nothing about this. I hope something can be done to avoid having about 100 mails a day. Thanks in advance. masta_dry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim doesn't accept connections [was: ipchains/smtp/bastille problem]
Henrik Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi everybody! Hi Henke. A lot about not able to connect to port 25 > Connected to flaskan.lillehenke.cjb.net. If I run: lari@thor:~$ host flaskan.lillehenke.cjb.net flaskan.lillehenke.cjb.net A 213.66.203.147 lari@thor:~$ host 213.66.203.147 Name: h147n2fls21o907.telia.com Address: 213.66.203.147 I see that you are on an adsl or comhem ip from telia. Telia closed the smtp port to all their users a couple of days ago. That is your problem. Take contact with telia and complain, they will open the port for you again if you sign some agreement. Read more on debian.users.swedish. /Lari -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problem with XFree86 in testing
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 02:33:01AM -0600, Caitrin Torres wrote: > I upgraded my laptop from stable with a few testing packages to all ... Your problem seems different buy FYI: There was a major break in unstable for BASH. Just ke sure Just do not use 2.05b-4 bash: Installed: 2.05b-5 Candidate: 2.05b-5 Version Table: *** 2.05b-5 0 800 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main Packages (GOOD) 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 2.05b-3 0 700 http://http.us.debian.org testing/main Packages (GOOD) 2.05a-11 0 500 http://http.us.debian.org stable/main Packages (GOOD) -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ + Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cupertino CA USA, GPG-key: A8061F32 .''`. Debian Reference: post-installation user's guide for non-developers : :' : http://qref.sf.net and http://people.debian.org/~osamu `. `' "Our Priorities are Our Users and Free Software" --- Social Contract -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: encrypting a single file
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 11:28:41AM -0800, Jeff wrote: > Rob Weir, 2002-Nov-06 04:40 +1100: > > On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 11:21:37AM -0500, Levi Waldron wrote: > > > On November 5, 2002 02:27 am, Rob Weir wrote: > > > > AFAIK, emacs supports this out of the box. Open a .gpg file and it'll > > > > prompt you for the password and decrypt it for you, automatically > > > > re-encrypting it on save. > > > > > > My xemacs 21.4.6-8 doesn't do this, although I have gpg installed now - > > > probably have to load a module. > > > > Oops, you need crypt++el. > > > > -rob > > Is there something else that's needed for emacs21? I'm having > trouble: > > $ gpg -c file.txt > passphrase: > reenter : > $ ls > file.txt.gpg > $ emacs -nw file.txt.gpg > > emacs asks for the "encryption key", so I enter the passphrase, > because if I hit "return to ignore" is see the scrambled data. After > entering the passphrase, emacs reports "Searching for program: no such > file or directory, crypt". Did you make gpg key and made available in your home directory in their default location with proper permission. (~/.gnupg/ exist?) -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ + Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cupertino CA USA, GPG-key: A8061F32 .''`. Debian Reference: post-installation user's guide for non-developers : :' : http://qref.sf.net and http://people.debian.org/~osamu `. `' "Our Priorities are Our Users and Free Software" --- Social Contract -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: unsubscribe
I love it too forgot -request in the mailto On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Joyce, Matthew wrote: > Noone leaves!! > > > I love this thread. > > bwahahahaha. > > Matt > > > > -Original Message- > > From: belg [mailto:belg@;mother.linuxpower.nu] > > Sent: Friday, 8 November 2002 9:07 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: Debian User list > > Subject: unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unsubscribe
belg wrote: could these get blocked on the server? iain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: unsubscribe
Noone leaves!! I love this thread. bwahahahaha. Matt > -Original Message- > From: belg [mailto:belg@;mother.linuxpower.nu] > Sent: Friday, 8 November 2002 9:07 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: Debian User list > Subject: unsubscribe > > > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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exim doesn't accept connections [was: ipchains/smtp/bastille problem]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi everybody! I checked some more and now know my problems aren't caused by my firewall. I get the following behaviour no matter if my ipchains firewall is on or if all rules are flushed: I run exim on a (woody) machine with one internal (192.168.0.1) NIC and one public (connected to my ISP). Exim on this machine accepts connections from localhost and from machines on my own network, but not from machines on the internet. If I do 'telnet flaskan 25' from a machine on my internal network i get: Trying 192.168.0.1... Connected to flaskan.lillehenke.cjb.net. Escape character is '^]'. 220 flaskan.lillehenke.cjb.net ESMTP Exim 3.35 #1 Thu, 07 Nov 2002 22:49:18 +0100 (It takes a few seconds before the 220 line arrives.) If i log on to the machine and do 'telnet localhost 25' I get: Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. 220 flaskan.lillehenke.cjb.net ESMTP Exim 3.35 #1 Thu, 07 Nov 2002 22:54:17 +0100 (with no delays) If i try 'telnet lillehenke.cjb.net 25' (which resolves to the public NIC on 'flaskan') from a machine on the internet (I ssh to a machine in school to test this), I just get: Trying 213.66.203.147... and then nothing until the connection times out: telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out I can connect to other mail servers (such as my IPS's) from the machine in school. I can reach other services on my machine (ssh) from outside my home network. My exim.conf hasn't been changed since I set this up initially and I could still recieve mail about a week after that. Theories anyone? br, Henrik Johansson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9yuJnms2BPrYuP/0RAr3lAJoDYXvUsouDKw/nVzrMzGazildvRACfS2IV +wQkui0iP/amcPxl6VXwp+g= =E50N -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ip_forward - 2 nics
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 12:20:52PM -0800, Jeff wrote.. > > > > sumida:/etc/init.d# cat /proc/net/ip_conntrack > > > > udp 17 9 src=10.10.10.156 dst=192.168.2.254 sport=1059 dport=53 > > [UNREPLIED] src=192.168.2.254 dst=192.168.2.254 sport=53 dport=1059 > > use=1 > > udp 17 17 src=10.10.10.156 dst=167.206.112.4 sport=1061 dport=53 > > [UNREPLIED] src=167.206.112.4 dst=192.168.2.254 sport=53 dport=1061 > > use=1 > > > > The first destination (192.168.2.254) is the router. The second dest is > > a DNS server on the outside world. In both cases the [UNREPLIED] > > message is appended. Is that the proxy box 'not replying'? > > Ah, when you ping the world, are you pinging using a domain name or an > IP? I'm using an IP, not a domain name. It seems to try the ICMP ping packet first icmp 1 29 src=10.10.10.156 dst=66.70.90.121 type=8 code=0 id=22790 [UNREPLIED] src=66.70.90.121 dst=10.10.10.156 type=0 code=0 id=22790 use=1 udp 17 8 src=10.10.10.156 dst=167.206.112.3 sport=1112 dport=53 [UNREPLIED] src=167.206.112.3 dst=10.10.10.156 sport=53 dport=1112 use=1 and then when it doesn't get a reply, it tries sending a udp packet to the DNS server (I've no idea why it does this). Separately, I'm able to sit at sumida the proxy box and ping everything and anything, both by ip and DN. > I appears you are using a domain name and it's not getting resolved. > According to he cat above, your router is may be droping the DNS > requests. Could this router be doing a DNS proxy? Try setting the > DNS IP on your client and sumida to 192.168.10.254 and see if it > works. Also, where did 192.168.2.254 come from? According to you > original post, the network between sumida and the router is > 192.168.10.0. I tried changing the ip's for the DNS as you suggested ... no success. The network was 192.168.10.0. As part of mucking up the whole system, I changed it at one point. It is now 192.168.2.0. I'm quite sure that I was consistent with my changes throughout both boxes. > One last thing, can you client ping 192.168.10.254? That would prove > that sumida is forwarding. The client is not able to ping 192.168.2.254 (used to be 192.168.10.254). It can, however, ping the sumida the proxy box, both by IP and by pinging sumida the DN. Banging head against wall at this point. This should be straightforward. Thanks Kevin -- Kevin Coyner mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG key: 1024D/8CE11941 msg11617/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: procmail slow email delivery
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 09:47:24PM -0600, Shyamal Prasad wrote: > Have you watched the exim log (tail -f /var/log/exim/mainlog) when > fetchmail fetches your mail? If not, perhaps exim is doing some sort > of network lookup that delays it? > I did that and also monitored procmail.log at the same time. What I found was that after the mail made it to my machine via fetchmail, I would get an entry in exim/mainlog. But it wouldn't show up on procmail.log for a long time, and I don't even think that it is being sent to procmail right away. Later on, I get another entry for the same messge in exim/mainlog, and then it goes to procmail.log. So it looks to me like it is sitting around in exim for several minutes. Here is an example of a couple of lines from the exim/mainlog file: 2002-11-07 11:21:51 189sDv-0005au-00 <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=otte (localhost) [127.0.0.1] P=esmtp S=6906 id=p05111a0ab9f066d9996b@[128.114.181.73] 2002-11-07 11:21:53 189sDv-0005au-00 => ric@otte R=smarthost T=remote_smtp H=smtp.ucsc.edu [128.114.129.35] 2002-11-07 11:21:53 189sDv-0005au-00 Completed And here is another entry in exim/mainlog for the same message, 11 minutes later: 2002-11-07 12:33:13 189tKz-0006St-00 <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=cats-mx2.ucsc.edu (ucsc.edu) [128.114.129.35] P=esmtp S=7277 id=p05111a0ab9f066d9996b@[128.114.181.73] 2002-11-07 12:33:13 189tKz-0006St-00 => ric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> D=procmail T=procmail_pipe 2002-11-07 12:33:13 189tKz-0006St-00 Completed I do not really know what all of the stuff in the entries mean, but it does look like it is only being sent to procmail 11 minutes after it first got to exim. I'm not sure what it was doing in the meantime. What makes it even more puzzling, is if I take out the .procmailrc file, then there is no delay (but the mail isn't sorted). Any insight? Thanks, Ric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting Linux from windows 2000
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 03:56:48PM +0100, Bruno BEAUFILS wrote: > > I know that this question is not specially relevant to debian, but I > do not know where to ask it anywhere else :-( > > I want to boot a bunch of dual-boot stations which are running under > Windows 2000 to Linux. I tried loadlin but it does not work because > of protected mode. loadlin and syslinux both work from DOS, and won't work on Windows 2000 (Windows NT/2000/XP are not DOS-based). > I can modify lilo boot loader since those stations are oftenly > cloned by Ghost and that default boot options must stay Windows. Lilo can be set up to boot Windows 2000 by default, just be sure to install Linux *after* you install Windows. Grub can also be set up to boot Windows 2000 for you. Either can be set up so that they look innocuous to a person who might be afraid of a boot menu. Alternately, if you are not permitted to touch the MBR, you can make a very flexible boot floppy with grub. After installing the Debian grub package, you can make a grub boot floppy as simply as "grub-floppy /dev/fd0". Best of Luck, -Gleef -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting Linux from windows 2000
Levi Waldron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've heard that win2k won't stand for LILO replacing its own MBR. My laptop dual-boots Win2K and Debian unstable with GRUB in the MBR, and both sides work fine. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ "Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal." -- Abra Mitchell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: networking woes with 2.4 kernel
Jeff Cours wrote: > Hi, everyone - > > I'm in the process of building a new Windows/Linux dual-boot > workstation, and I'm running into a problem with networking. The brief > summary of the problem is that I can get Ethernet and TCP/IP working > under the 2.2 kernel series, but not under the 2.4 kernel series. > > A Debian Woody idepci network install (2.2 kernel series) will find the > network just fine. Windows ME also has no networking problems. However, > a Woody bf24 installation off the official CD distribution fails when it > tries to use dhcp. When I hard-code an address and try to ping, I get > host unreachable messages. I get the same results under Mandrake 9.0 > (kernel 2.4.19). > > My first thought was that it might be a problem with the integrated > RTL-8139 NIC, so I installed a new Linksys LNE100TX (a tulip chipset), > disabled the 8139 through the BIOS, and got the same results with the > Linksys. (One note, though, is that the 2.2 kernel network installation > CD I was using noticed the 8139 even though it was disabled by the BIOS, > so I'm not sure exactly what the BIOS did to "disable" the chip. It > certainly didn't remove it from the PCI bus.) I've since pulled the > Linksys card to try to simplify the system, but I've had no luck getting > anything with a 2.4 kernel to work. > > If I have to, I'll run with a 2.2 kernel, but it'd sure be nice to be > able to use an ext3 file system and get the fancy new USB support, and I > don't want to be locked into the 2.2 kernel forever. Has anyone seen a > similar problem? Are there any particular logs I should be paying > attention to (syslog was pretty uninformative -- it just confirmed the > dhcp failure), or boot parameters I should set for the kernel? > > I'm using an ABIT SR7-8X motherboard, which is a Pentium IV socket 478 > board with the SiS 648 northbridge and SiS 693 southbridge. The relevant > NICs are the integrated RTL-8139 (module = 8139too) and a Linksys > LNE100TX (module = tulip). > > If there's any other info that would be useful, please let me know. > > thanks, > Jeff > > I just took a peek at the bf24 "config" file to check and here is what I found. The code for the 8139 chipset (the 8139too code) is compiled into the kernel so there is no need to insert a module for most 8139 based NICs. There is also a "8139cp" support compiled as a module. If your install is NOT recognizing your existing 8139 chipset, you might try inserting this other module and see if it recognizes it. As I understand it, there are a few "mfg mods" to the 8139 that require this... All of my 8139 based NICs (on cards on PCI bus) have been automatically picked up during install of the bf24 kernel. I didn't have to install any modules at all to get it going for a "network" install. The same is NOT true of the "tulip" driver. It is only compiled as a module in the bf24 kernel. You will have to install the "drivers" from either the driver floppies or from the CD, whichever you use, and install the "tulip" module before you can bring up the LNE100TX. Finally, you can always upgrade to the 2.4.18 kernel via "apt-get" and install the kernel-image package for that version. You would do this from a "working" 2.2.XX kernel. It is entirely modular, so you will have to insert ALL the modules you will need for your NIC(s) as well as for getting ext3 support. This is how I made my initial transition to the 2.4.18 kernel. There are a few "gotchas" in doing that... like using initrd and inserting the modules etc. It DOES work, but it might take a few tries, so keep your 2.2.XX kernel available as a back-up boot route... . Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting Linux from windows 2000
Hi debian-user-digest-request! On Thu, 07 Nov 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > From: Levi Waldron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Booting Linux from windows 2000 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:02:56 -0500 > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On November 7, 2002 11:49 am, Rob Weir wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 03:56:48PM +0100, Bruno BEAUFILS wrote: > > > I know that this question is not specially relevant to debian, but I do > > > not know where to ask it anywhere else :-( > > > > > > I want to boot a bunch of dual-boot stations which are running under > > > Windows 2000 to Linux. I tried loadlin but it does not work because of > > > protected mode. > > > > > > I can modify lilo boot loader since those stations are oftenly cloned by > > > Ghost > > I've heard that win2k won't stand for LILO replacing its own MBR. The > alternatives I know of are: Sure it does. I have installed Windows 2000 Server alongside on my Debian Box and it works without any problems using LILO. Could be that it is working because I use install-mbr on the mbr and have placed the LILO boot stuff into the boot partition of Linux. bye, Klaus -- | | | | | Klaus Bodo Valentin Lichti | Tel. +31-45-5670421 | | |_|_| | Nullanderstraat 72 | Mobil +49-700-99LICHTI | | | | | Fax +49-170-13-2834088 | | --^-- | 6461 GD Kerkrade / Nederland | mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: networking woes with 2.4 kernel
Jeff Cours, 2002-Nov-07 10:52 -0800: > My first thought was that it might be a problem with the integrated > RTL-8139 NIC, so I installed a new Linksys LNE100TX (a tulip chipset), > disabled the 8139 through the BIOS, and got the same results with the > Linksys. (One note, though, is that the 2.2 kernel network > installation CD I was using noticed the 8139 even though it was > disabled by the BIOS, so I'm not sure exactly what the BIOS did to > "disable" the chip. It certainly didn't remove it from the PCI bus.) > I've since pulled the Linksys card to try to simplify the system, but > I've had no luck getting anything with a 2.4 kernel to work. You didn't mention it, so I assume you didn't check to see of the 8139 module was loaded under the 2.4 kernel. Try, # insmod 8139too and see if that gets thing going for you. jc -- Jeff CoppockSystems Engineer Diggin' Debian Admin and User -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Manually starting X
Joe Riel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-07 10:10:48 -0800]: > I have installed a basic X system (Woody stable). > When the system boots, the gui login window comes up. Which gui? xdm, kdm, or gdm, or other? > When the window manager (twm) is shutdown, > the screen goes black and the login window does not reappear. Ouch. Something is certainly wrong. > As a workaround, I'm wondering how to change the init procedure so > that X does not start (I tried removing the S99Xdm script in > /etc/rc2.d; that did prevent X from starting but running startx had > problems; I'm guessing parts of S99Xdm script must be run). I am not aware of anything that needs to be run from there. Instead of removing the symlink I think editing the file /etc/X11/default-display-manager is preferred. To completely disable managers set it to /usr/bin/false instead of your current manager. The start up scripts read that file and check the name against who they are. If they match then then run. Since false won't match anyone none of the graphical login managers will actually run. Since that file is a configuration file the contents will be preserved by dpkg when doing package management. Bob msg11610/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: cupsys & kde
This one time, at band camp, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > Hi, > > I did check if locahost is working and it is. > The strange thing is that I did a fresh install on a new system and kde > applications list lp as the defaul printer option. however on my system it > does > not which is wierd. I would really appreciate some insight as to why > applications like emacs mozilla abiword are able to use the printer setup > whereas KDE office suite applications are not able to use it. > > thank you > regards > Harshu I think KDE apps only look at /etc/printcap, which is not written to by CUPS by default. There is a way to tell KDE apps (from the control center? I don't know, as I'm not near a box with KDE on it) to use /etc/printcap.cups, or you can rm /etc/printcap ln -s /etc/printcap.cups /etc/printcap HTH, Steve -- The only really masterful noise a man makes in a house is the noise of his key, when he is still on the landing, fumbling for the lock. -- Colette msg11609/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
