what's wrong with rsync?
what's wrong with rsync? i'm heartily exploring backup methodologies and from what i can tell, rsync sure looks like "the bomb". any drawbacks? some good reason to NOT use it? something better? i'll be backing up the usual stuff (/etc /home ... and /var/backups with pg_dump output in them...) apparently it does a remote diff somehow and then sends only the parts that need changing? i can't imagine that it's possible to compare two 1mb text files for differences without at least sending one across the wires -- yet the manpage certainly has me thinking that's what they claim it does. hmm? -- I use Debian/GNU Linux version 3.0; Linux server 2.4.20-k6 #1 Mon Jan 13 23:49:14 EST 2003 i586 unknown DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #78 from USM Bish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : Do you want to track the ERROR MESSAGES WHEN STARTING "X" (using startx) but the screen scrolls by too fast... and then you're in the GUI, and can't see the messages any more! startx 1> startx.log 2>&1 This will dump a bunch of text to the file 'startx.log'. View this later at your convenience. Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: redirect of "ls --color" causes problems
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 09:53:29PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: > On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 08:38:12AM +0100, Lukas Ruf wrote: > > * Vineet Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-01-26 08:29]: > > > * David Z Maze ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030125 20:14]: > > > > So while bash and zsh have aliases, you can't actually do much with > > > > them. > > > > > What's the problem with tcsh? > > > > alias ls '/bin/ls --color=auto --classify -F \!*' > > > > works perfectly. > > yeah, but then you're still stuck with csh. > > I wonder why the sh vs. csh battle isn't mentioned a often as the vi > vs. emacs battle; it seems to be hust as much of a religious issue. > :-) less of us use csh, i'd bet. and we're happy with it (and pretty quiet, too). i'm trying to get along with bash but i keep getting my forehead bashed in with that syntax. it's just me, i know... -- I use Debian/GNU Linux version 3.0; Linux server 2.4.20-k6 #1 Mon Jan 13 23:49:14 EST 2003 i586 unknown DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #53 from Will Trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : Tired of MESSING WITH THREE APACHE CONFIG FILES? Put everything into your /etc/apache/httpd.conf file, and add these two lines: ResourceConfig /dev/null AccessConfig /dev/null Now it's all together. Of course, you can break it into smaller pieces, too -- try: Include /this/important/config/file.here Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /var still counts /var/cache
On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 05:00:58PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 10:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I'm _not_ suggesting you just do > > > > # umount /var/cache > > # rm /var/cache > > Not quite - rm won't remove a directory, and you don't want to anyway. > "rm /var/cache/*" might be more useful. or even "rm -r /var/cache/*" :) -- I use Debian/GNU Linux version 3.0; Linux server 2.4.20-k6 #1 Mon Jan 13 23:49:14 EST 2003 i586 unknown DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #82 from USM Bish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : Want to SEE INSIDE A *.DEB FILE? Try this: dpkg -x foo.deb This unpacks the .deb file, and gives you a file called data.tar.gz which holds the contents. To look into this file: tar -tzf file.tar.gz | pager Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How I partitioned my harddrive
I'd mostly call myself a "regular user" -- although I do have a web server installed on my laptop it doesn't broadcast to the world...it's just me the couch and the tv and occassionally the cat. I choose not to worry about things like security and the latest and greatest versions of things (although I am running unstable). I've found my current disk set up to be quite satisfactory until today when I couldn't pick up mail. /var had run out of space. /var/share is new as of tonight to deal with an otherwise quite usable disk configuration. I believe I came up with these numbers from a Red Hat book, although many people have included their disk partition sizes on their web sites. I know only of the linux laptop site, but many of the people who've contributed info have included disk partition information: http://www.linux-laptop.net/ Here's mine: emmajane@debian:~$ df -h (-h = human readable sizes) FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda2 464M 28M 412M 7% / /dev/hda3 4.6G 2.1G 2.4G 47% /home /dev/hda5 2.3G 1.3G 901M 60% /usr /dev/hda6 464M 108M 333M 25% /var /dev/hda7 2.8G 46M 2.6G 2% /usr/local /dev/hda9 46M 13M 31M 30% /tmp /dev/hda102.3G 334M 1.9G 15% /var/cache /dev/hda1 is a windows partition that's barely big enough to hold Windows 2000 and a couple pieces of software. It's there in case of very desperate times (like when I need to use a modem). When I first installed debian I was actually replacing a RedHat installation. All the partitions were reformatted (and possibly resized) EXCEPT for /home. I also left about 6Gb free (unformatted). This has been a total god-send. For example: I didn't realize that /var/cache/apt/archives would hold a copy of all my install files for software. On RedHat /usr/local needs to be huge (I'm anti-rpm and did everything from scratch), on debian with .debs it's different. So today I filled up /var. Based on some great advice that got here I decided to find the largest subdirectory and make a new partition just for that directory. This freed up a good chunk of space (75% of the partition) to be shared in the other sub-directories. A number of people recommended cleaning out /var...464M isn't a lot to begin with. I have virtually no logs and no mail. As you can see, there wasn't a lot to clean out: debian:/home/emmajane# du --max-depth=1 -h /var 12K /var/lost+found 75M /var/lib 334M/var/cache 2.8M/var/backups 1.0K/var/local 1.0K/var/lock 21M /var/log 40K /var/run 9.9M/var/spool 10K /var/tmp 1.0K/var/opt 1.0K/var/mail 10K /var/www 441M/var (Note that the size of /var/cache is approximately the same size as /dev/hda10 from above? This is because I moved /var/cache into that partition but du reads it as if it were all the same...I think.) This is how I put some of my unformatted space to good use. I believe I've remembered all of the steps. Hopefully someone will correct me if I've got glaring errors. du --max-depth=1 -h /dir_in_question find the largest directory and replace it with a new partition apt-get install parted program to make partitions with tar -cvf /home/emmajane/var.tar /var backup whatever directory you're about to manipulate. In my case backup all your data and config files to CD (or external drive) mkfs.ext2 /dev/hda10 create an ext2 partition named whatever the next partition would be in your sequence. You can do this in "parted" but I didn't understand how. vi /etc/fstab copy pasted the partition information for /var and created: /dev/hda10 /var/cache ext2defaults 0 2 I don't really understand what all the numbers mean, but I do understand you need this for the partition to be mounted when you boot your computer e2label /dev/hda10 /var/share I'm not sure this was required, but it was part of the instructions in: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-8.0-Manual/custom-guide/s1-parted-create-part.html cp /var/cache /var/cache2 extra backups never hurt parted at this point we're just looking. type: print This will show you all your partitions. Mine looks like this: Using /dev/hda Information: The operating system thinks the geometry on /dev/hda is 3648/255/63. Therefore, cylinder 1024 ends at 8032.499M. (parted) print Disk geometry for /dev/hda: 0.000-28615.781 megabytes Disk label type: msdos MinorStart End Type Filesystem Flags 1 0.031 2000.280 primary ntfsboot 2 2000.281 2478.779 primary ext2 3 2478.779 7248.076 primary ext2 4 7248.076 20175.380 extended 5 7248.107 9632.724 logical ext2
Re: Bunch of musicians in a tent [was: Re: Gimp Print Problem]
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 08:47:12PM -0900, Andy wrote: > > > How do I get back to Band Camp? > > > > What is a Band Camp? > > Why does "get back to Band Camp" mean "fix my system"? > > Why do so many people quote emails with "This one time, at band camp..."? > > And why the odd phrase "This one time"? Is it a quote from something? > > I believe it is in reference to this movie: > http://www.americanpievideo.com/ > and the second one: > http://www.americanpiemovie.com/ap_home.html > andy > (who is now depressed because this is the only useful thing he can > contribute to the debian-user list. ) it'll get better (just keep watching those movies -- there's lots of overlap between the geekish-centric world of linux and the fantasy world of hollywood). you'll find more ways to help... :) -- I use Debian/GNU Linux version 3.0; Linux server 2.4.20-k6 #1 Mon Jan 13 23:49:14 EST 2003 i586 unknown DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #31 from Will Trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : Ever wonder why Debian STABLE SEEMS OUT-OF-DATE? It's because it's STABLE! When enough testing shows a release to be worthy of the "stable" name, it's frozen -- nothing new can be added to it. Gizmo 57.3 might come out the next day, but it won't show up in the stable release. If you want to be on the bleeding edge, try "testing" or "unstable". If you want solid dependability, stick with "stable" and use tried-and-true packages instead of the newfangled ones that might break. Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: redirect of "ls --color" causes problems
* Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-01-28 05:36]: > > yeah, but then you're still stuck with csh. > > I wonder why the sh vs. csh battle isn't mentioned a often as the vi > vs. emacs battle; it seems to be hust as much of a religious issue. I personally like the tcsh for daily work rather than bash -- but for a long time I have been avoiding convincing people of what they should do. I simply try to work the way I am satisfied with. It's up to everybody to choose whatever one want's to. wbr, Lukas -- Lukas Ruf http://www.lpr.ch Wanna know anything about raw ip? Join [EMAIL PROTECTED] on http://www.rawip.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: invalid date from date -d 1969-12-31
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 10:59:47PM -0500, Stan Heckman wrote: > On my system, date -d returns "invalid date" for dates before 1970. It > is possible that this began when I upgraded libc6. Any suggestions? 1970-01-01 is time zero for *nixen. You're asking about what happened before the big bang! Guess "date" is not as generally useful for reformatting dates as it could be. However, its primary function is to set/print the current date/time which is always more recent than 1970. -- echo ">gra.fcw@2ztr< eryyvZ .T pveR" | rot13 | reverse -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's fstype 83? "Linux"?
will trillich said: > files on /dev/hdb2 have modification times no later than > september 2000 -- pre-ext3 by a long shot. and i'm *positive* > i've never even tried reiserfs, certainly not two-and-a-half > years ago. wasn't ext2 the default for formatting under the > potato or slink install? (as i recall, potato would start out as > ext2 and then offered an ext3 option later... nope, ext3 didn't > work either.) Before reiserfs, jfs, xfs, and ext3 the only filesystem I ever saw supported was ext2 going back to my first slackware 3.2 install in '96. there was the UMSDOS stuff too, but I never knew anyone that used it, and that resided on a fat partition anyways. > racking my brain (what there is left of it) i stir no memory of > anything unusual, file-system-wise. i'm just about certain that > all three of these partitions would be the same file system. > > yet /dev/hdb2 mounts like a charm. I'd try what another poster suggested, try the debian slink rescue disks. or just format it and forget about it, if you haven't needed the data on that disk for 2 years you probably won't miss anything :) nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's fstype 83? "Linux"?
On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 12:00:18AM -0500, Shaun ONeil wrote:
> On 2003.01.27 19:20 Haim Ashkenazi wrote:
> >On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 23:27, will trillich wrote:
> >> i've found an old (debian slink?) drive around the house, and
> >> plugged it in -- but i can't mount most of the partitions!
> >>
> >> Device Boot Start End #cyls#blocks Id System
> >>/dev/hdb1 * 0+ 3 4- 16127+ 83 Linux
> >>/dev/hdb2 4 64 61 245952 83 Linux
> >>/dev/hdb3 65 618 55422337285 Extended
> >>/dev/hdb4 0 - 0 00 Empty
> >>/dev/hdb5 65+573 509- 2052287+ 83 Linux
> >>/dev/hdb6574+618 45-181439+ 82 Linux swap
> # dd if=/dev/hda6 bs=1k count=50 | file -
> 50+0 records in
> 50+0 records out
> 51200 bytes transferred in 0.116208 seconds (440589 bytes/sec)
> standard input: Linux rev 1.0 ext2 filesystem data
> (mounted or unclean)
>
> There may be a good reason not to do this, but it's always worked for me
there may indeed, but THAT'S A REALLY COOL TIP. cut it out.
here's hdb1--
root: /mnt# dd if=/dev/hdb1 bs=1k count=200 | file -
standard input: data
9+0 records in
8+0 records out
root: /mnt# dd if=/dev/hdb1 bs=1k count=20 | hexdump -C
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ||
*
0200 1d ee a0 fe 92 2e 52 d5 7e 29 7e 31 d2 90 35 52 |.î þ..RÕ~)~1Ò.5R|
0210 91 35 28 7e 79 97 cb 2f dd 8a e5 90 90 29 9f 2a |.5(~y.Ë/Ý.å..).*|
0220 16 02 52 27 5b 3b ad e8 3e cc db e3 36 a5 3a a5 |..R'[;è>ÌÛã6¥:¥|
0230 c0 ad e8 3e 67 5a 38 16 02 5a d8 90 3e 29 60 82 |Àè>gZ8..ZØ.>)`.|
0240 12 2e 5a d4 95 29 2e 9a 20 e3 3e c5 dc a7 68 0b |..ZÔ.).. ã>Åܧh.|
0250 b8 a4 68 2a 9a 28 12 20 5a 3f 9a 25 12 22 5a 2b |¸¤h*.(. Z?.%."Z+|
0260 14 ea 5b 05 6e e8 68 0b 28 5b 0a 95 84 7b 7e 9a |.ê[.nèh.([...{~.|
0270 6f e3 3d 76 5c 38 af d5 7b 84 5b 3e d8 ef 2f 5a |oã=v\8¯Õ{.[>Øï/Z|
0280 25 a4 ce a6 78 0a e9 28 8f 28 c5 30 a6 48 2a 91 |%¤Î¦x.é(.(Å0¦H*.|
0290 24 2e 96 2f 2c a5 f2 1d e7 ad d1 2b 51 2d a5 60 |$../,¥ò.çÑ+Q-¥`|
02a0 0b 2d 60 2c e3 3d 5c 07 90 68 29 af 10 d0 53 7b |.-`,ã=\..h)¯.ÐS{|
02b0 84 5a 74 ad c1 2b 51 f4 ab d8 5b ad 90 09 29 c5 |.ZtÁ+Qô«Ø[..)Å|
02c0 a4 b6 bf 7c b7 2d 68 26 3d 78 24 c6 3c 2e 74 c5 |¤¶¿|·-h&=x$Æ<.tÅ|
02d0 fb 61 5a ca 1d ee e3 3d c5 96 2e 2e ae 07 07 0e |ûaZÊ.îã=Å...®...|
02e0 78 1d d8 78 78 7c 7e 28 7d 7f 90 3e 2e 78 a5 da |x.Øxx|~(}..>.x¥Ú|
02f0 7e 7c 96 2e 6c a4 78 0a e3 3d 74 76 a3 4a 3e 5c |~|..l¤x.ã=tv£J>\|
0300 24 6e 5b 2f 6c ae e9 2c cc d9 d6 70 ed c5 5a 67 |$n[/l®é,ÌÙÖpíÅZg|
0310 40 58 4f 42 47 4a 0e 5e 4f 5c 5a 47 5a 47 41 40 |@XOBGJ.^O\ZGZGA@|
0320 0e 5a 4f 4c 42 4b 2e 6b 5c 5c 41 5c 0e 42 41 4f |.ZOLBK.k\\A\.BAO|
0330 4a 47 40 49 0e 41 5e 4b 5c 4f 5a 47 40 49 0e 5d |[EMAIL PROTECTED]^K\OZG@I.]|
0340 57 5d 5a 4b 43 2e 63 47 5d 5d 47 40 49 0e 41 5e |W]ZKC.cG]][EMAIL PROTECTED]^|
0350 4b 5c 4f 5a 47 40 49 0e 5d 57 5d 5a 4b 43 2e 2e |K\OZG@I.]W]ZKC..|
0360 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e ||
[snip]
at least it's lots of binary stuff...
and hdb5--
root: /mnt# dd if=/dev/hdb5 bs=1k count=200 | file -
standard input: ASCII English text, with CRLF line terminators
9+0 records in
8+0 records out
not good. in fact it looks like it starts in the middle of an
sgml (perhaps html) document from DOS. oh well.
root: /mnt# dd if=/dev/hdb5 bs=1k count=5 | hexdump -C
74 75 72 6e 65 64 2e 0d 0a 0d 0a 3c 2f 50 3e 0d |turned..|
0010 0a 3c 50 3e 0d 0a 3c 50 52 45 3e 20 20 75 73 65 |... use|
5+0 records in
5+0 records out
0020 20 4c 57 50 3a 3a 55 73 65 72 41 67 65 6e 74 3b | LWP::UserAgent;|
0030 0d 0a 20 20 24 75 61 20 3d 20 6e 65 77 20 4c 57 |.. $ua = new LW|
0040 50 3a 3a 55 73 65 72 41 67 65 6e 74 3b 0d 0a 20 |P::UserAgent;.. |
0050 20 24 75 61 2d 26 67 74 3b 61 67 65 6e 74 28 26 | $ua->agent(&|
0060 71 75 6f 74 3b 24 30 2f 30 2e 31 20 26 71 75 6f |quot;$0/0.1 &quo|
0070 74 3b 20 2e 20 24 75 61 2d 26 67 74 3b 61 67 65 |t; . $ua->age|
0080 6e 74 29 3b 0d 0a 20 20 23 20 24 75 61 2d 26 67 |nt);.. # $ua-&g|
0090 74 3b 61 67 65 6e 74 28 26 71 75 6f 74 3b 4d 6f |t;agent("Mo|
00a0 7a 69 6c 6c 61 2f 38 2e 30 26 71 75 6f 74 3b 29 |zilla/8.0")|
00b0 20 23 20 70 72 65 74 65 6e 64 20 77 65 20 61 72 | # pretend we
Re: invalid date from date -d 1969-12-31
Stan Heckman said: > On my system, date -d returns "invalid date" for dates before 1970. It is > possible that this began when I upgraded libc6. Any suggestions? not try to set your date to something thats not accurate? why would you want to set your date in such a way anyways? nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: M$ Curse
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 05:39:37PM -0900, Andy wrote: > > > Just boot from your CD and fix lilo. > > > > "fix lilo" is a large black box with "pandora" written all > > over it. > > Understood and my apologies to the debian-user list. > > At the time, I did not see any respones to his question so I > thought that by letting him know his Debian CD was bootable, > this could get him started. (probably should have just > emailed him directly) Then others followed up with some > excellent advice beyond what I could offer. I am quite new > and was helping out to the best of my ability with good > intentions. I understand your point totally and will try to > make more informative and helpful posts in the future. i'm glad you took it that way. glad to have you in the room. :) nothing wrong with posting suggestions to the list, just make sure you include some meat with the broth... :) -- I use Debian/GNU Linux version 3.0; Linux server 2.4.20-k6 #1 Mon Jan 13 23:49:14 EST 2003 i586 unknown DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #15 from Will Trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : Is there a good place to learn snarky PERL TECHNIQUES? One of my favorites is http://webtechniques.com, where Randall Schwartz contributes a monthly sample, explaining line-by-line what his code does, and why. (Look under "Programming with Perl" in the archives.) Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: setting up mysql-server
Ray said: > -- this is a resend, its been over an hour, and the 1st hasn't shown up on > the list yet. i'm assuming my mail server dropped it -- it came through :) most likely afteraffects from the worm .. > > i seem to be missing part of the setup on this. i can't remotely connect > to mysqld and it seems to have the TCP port disabled, but the config files > seem to say it should be using the default tcp port. I remember comming accross this, I think there is another option further down in the config file skip-networking try commenting that out and restarting mysql. I reccomend binding mysql to localhost(see docs on how to do this) and use something like stunnel to encrypt remote connections to the database. nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bunch of musicians in a tent [was: Re: Gimp Print Problem]
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Andy wrote: > > I believe it is in reference to this movie: > http://www.americanpievideo.com/ > and the second one: > http://www.americanpiemovie.com/ap_home.html very cute ... netscape/moz seems to be better than konqueror for me addded those page onto the test site http://www.linux-video.net/Samples c ya alvin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sort of OT: network logins
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 08:44:55PM -0500, Neal Lippman wrote: > I am looking for an approach to the problem of having multiple > installations of debian on each computer on my lan that I use. While it > is certainly reasonable to have a minimal install on each system, > consisting of a basic debian system, it seems counterproductive to have > to install each program that I use on each workstation, rather than > having such software "served" by a central applications server. Nitpicky point of terminology, but one which is actually relevant here: What you go on to describe is still a fileserver, just one that happens to be used to store files which are executable. In my experience, "application server" refers to a remote machine on which applications are run at the request of the local machine. That said, have you considered using X as the basis of an actual application server, with software running on the app server and displaying themselves on the local workstations? This can be done at two levels: Using ssh with X tunnelling, in which case you are normally using the local workstation, but can connect to the app server to run specific problems; or using XDMCP, which essentially turns the local workstation into a pure display terminal, running all software on the app server. Having implemented something like this at work, with a mix of smart terminals using ssh and dumb terminals using XDMCP (and even a few machines running both simultaneously in separate X servers), I have to say that the resource requirements for the app server are much lower and the overall system performance is much higher than I had expected. And as far as administration, well... the software is only installed in one place, so no synchronization or update hassles. > My present setup consists of a fileserver which exports various > directories via nfs, including both a network-wide data store (called > /share, for lack of a better idea), LFS defines "share" as a (sub)directory for architecture-independent shared data. From what little you mention here, that seems appropriate, although I would personally mount it under /var/local/share rather than /share. But that's purely a matter of taste. > By way of example, the workstation mounts server:/home onto /nfs; my > home directory on the workstation (/home/nl) is a symlink to /nfs/nl. > This way, no matter which workstation I log into, I have my global > /home/nl directory. Network-wide logins are handled by nis. Why do you mess around with the symlinks instead of just mounting server:/home under /home on the workstations? > Since /etc would be local to each workstation, the same install could > conceivably be used by each system with it operating differently because > of different config files (X comes to mind here, since hardware may > differ). Aye, and there's the rub... If you install everything to an app directory on a fileserver to be run on local workstations, you then have to keep the relevant bits of /etc and /var up-to-date yourself. This would likely give apt fits as well (apt on the workstations wouldn't have any idea of what's actually installed) and may the gods help you if you upgrade the server to a new version which isn't backwards-compatible with the config files on (some or all of) the workstations... > A problem, however, is that (as far as I can > tell) KDE does not understand multiple simultaneous logins, and > therefore I risk file corruption (or worse?) if I log in twice to my > account at the same time. Are you sure about that? I see odd directories (can't recall the name offhand) appear in the homes of KDE-using users which appear to be related to the KDE object model and include the hostname of the machine they're running from. Oh, yeah - .dcop-hostname or something close to it. I don't do KDE myself and none of my users run on two machines simultaneously, so I can't say how well it works, but this appears to be intended to address the situation you're describing. > Theoretically, I would need to do this for any porgrams that cannot > sucessfully sync shared storage (like evolution), however - so this > isn't really a good overall solution. You know, this reminds me of the locking problems I used to have with mutt... Are you sure your problem isn't at the NFS level rather than the application level? If you're running the user-space NFS daemon, it doesn't support file locking. (Or at least it didn't the last time I checked.) Build yourself a kernel on the file server with NFS support and install the kernel-space NFS daemon instead, if you haven't already done so. That should take care of most of your concurrency issues. > Any advice, pointers to references, etc, thoughts greatly appreciated. In theory, it's certainly possible to install your binaries on a file server and run them locally on each workstation. I've considered it myself and decided that it would most likely be even more trouble than managing local installations of each
Updating Critical Packages Only
I recently bought the Debian 3.0r1 7-CD set and am trying to upgrade some obsolete packages. However, it turns out that if I ask apt to update its package database, most packages I have on the CD-set become obsolete and can no longer be installed conveniently through dselect. Since I cannot afford to spend nights downloading new packages for my entire system, and I purchased the CDs to avoid having to do that, is there any way to tell apt-get to update only the critically important packages like glibc, libstdc++, ncurses, etc. and not the entire system?
Re: do i need stable in my sources.list?
On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 12:41:49AM -0500, Travis Crump wrote: > Kent West wrote: > >Colin Watson wrote: > >>On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 01:43:32AM +, iain d broadfoot wrote: > >>>testing/unstable, do i still need the stable entries? > >>No. testing started out as a copy of stable. The exceptions are if you > >>happen to want something that's been removed from testing since the last > >>stable release; even then you probably didn't want it anyway, and if you > >>do you can always get it by hand. > >I was under the impression that you needed to keep your security sources > >pointing at stable, since that's the only place that emergency security > >patches get placed consistently. Am I incorrect? Yah. > Since most security updates for stable are going to be a version lower > than the version currently in testing(since everything is backported), > you are never going to get them anyway so having it there isn't going to > help. Is this so? Not all package get that frequent updates. I do not see much reason not to do it since BW is small too. If version number is the issue, we should be able to pin to "Label: Debian-Security", I think. (Never done it myself) Say "Label: Debian-Security" has pin of 1100 then all security fix will automatically downgrade the system. Once you find new fixed program in unstable, then set that package's pin to 1200. so you get fixed package in. Release file in security updates === Origin: Debian Label: Debian-Security Suite: stable Version: 3.0 Codename: woody -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ + Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cupertino CA USA, GPG-key: A8061F32 .''`. Debian Reference: post-installation user's guide for non-developers : :' : http://qref.sf.net and http://people.debian.org/~osamu `. `' "Our Priorities are Our Users and Free Software" --- Social Contract -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: do i need stable in my sources.list?
> Since most security updates for stable are going to be a version lower You can use APT preferences to give security updates a higher priority. Note also that there is a security repository for sarge... Morningly, le Moine Fou -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenPGP 0xD9D50D8A msg26802/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
How to start aumix during init?
Hi, How can I start aumix during init? There is an entry /etc/init.d/aumix but it is not called from any of the init levels. The volume is always set to 0.Since aumix is never called during boot, changinging it in /etc/aumixrc doesnt make difference. Thanks, Raju -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: redirecting output to /dev/null on cron not working!
Ah yeah, thanks! -- thanks, louie miranda - Original Message - From: "Travis Crump" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Debian User List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 1:01 PM Subject: Re: redirecting output to /dev/null on cron not working! > louie miranda wrote: > > I have a script that is on a cron basis, It runs every hour. > > I have read a document that if you dont want any output. > > You can add >/dev/null 1>&2 to redirect it to /dev/null > > But i still received email about those output, is this syntax > > im trying to add on my cron for debian correct? > > > > /scripts/cron_inactivityalert.sh >/dev/null 1>&2 > > > > Don't you mean > /scripts/cron_inactivityalert.sh >/dev/null 2>&1... > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
disk partitioning & partition size allocations
I have been a telecommunications technician for many years & worked on the perifery of the data world over many years. I have got about 8 books on Linux and have loosely studied this OS for about 3 years. But I am certainly a newbie.So far I have not found a good general reference about partition sizes. The following table shows what hardware I have, disks in use, and planned layout for HD-2 (hdb*). I am concerned about /var in particular ... but will welcome any ideas. The purpose of the Linux box is to learn Linux. I want to be able to practice my very rusty programing skills, in the future set up a very small LAN, and be able to do all the admin. stuff from this main box. Will the "programming package" give me what I need or should I go into "dselect" & pick tasks. ( I guess that would help my learning curve.) Later on, I want to get into HA ( high availablity ) stuff with a 2nd box being a mirrow of this one. RE-partitioning of 2nd HARD DISK ( IDE ) = 4.102 GB drive on DELL P-200 MMX ( 92 MB RAM ) ### All FILEs are of the ext2fs type. This will be a multi-boot machine, but the first HD is for M$ Windows only at this date. The 2nd HD is for multiple Linux distros, Debian = first 2+ GB and any other L OS will be on whats left. (( NOTE: First HARD DR. = MicroCrap 98 // 2.1 MB. // FAT 32 )) ### Using PARTITION MAGIC program to do 2ND ATTEMPT partitioning. SUN 2003-01-26re-design choices, which have been put on the HD & checked for bad blocks. Hope to install Debian V 2.1 ( Slink & a half ) from CD-rom that I have on hand. PARTITION TYPES P = primary E = extendedL = logical # TYPE MB FILEPURPOSE or FILE NAME 1 P 64383 D. kernel, Work Station, develope, Networking. 2 P 12882 SWAP 3 E for logical partitions - - see below starting w/ # 5. 4 P 189083 TurboLinux or SuSE or whatever I play w/ next. 5 L 64383 debian/usr 6 L3183 debian/tmp 7 L 30083 debian/var 8 L 10083 debian/var/spool/mail 9 L 32783 debian/home 10 L 6483 debian/usr/local 1896+ total ### END 301887 = Linux registration. // 187256 = hardware # Dell P-200 MMX box. Thanking youse guys in advance for any help. peace.! David. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bunch of musicians in a tent [was: Re: Gimp Print Problem]
> > How do I get back to Band Camp? > > OK, I've seen this once too often now. I've just got to ask: > > What is a Band Camp? > Why does "get back to Band Camp" mean "fix my system"? > Why do so many people quote emails with "This one time, at band camp..."? > And why the odd phrase "This one time"? Is it a quote from something? > > Sorry, but this peculiar expression is doing my head in. I believe it is in reference to this movie: http://www.americanpievideo.com/ and the second one: http://www.americanpiemovie.com/ap_home.html Look at the girl Michelle. She kept saying throughout the movie "This one time, at band camp" Funny movie. But I could be wrong about the reference. andy (who is now depressed because this is the only useful thing he can contribute to the debian-user list. ) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: do i need stable in my sources.list?
Kent West wrote: Colin Watson wrote: On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 01:43:32AM +, iain d broadfoot wrote: testing/unstable, do i still need the stable entries? No. testing started out as a copy of stable. The exceptions are if you happen to want something that's been removed from testing since the last stable release; even then you probably didn't want it anyway, and if you do you can always get it by hand. I was under the impression that you needed to keep your security sources pointing at stable, since that's the only place that emergency security patches get placed consistently. Am I incorrect? Kent Since most security updates for stable are going to be a version lower than the version currently in testing(since everything is backported), you are never going to get them anyway so having it there isn't going to help. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Backup Consensus?
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 19:47:21 -0600 will trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 11:03:47PM +1100, bob parker wrote: > > My idea is that after a disaster I'd make a minimum debian install, > > restore $HOME, /usr/local. After that I'd reinstall my packages from the > > list I gathered and then selectively restore /etc to get my configs back > > the way I had them. > sounds like a reasonable plan. got a script or two you'd care to > share? :) Something that might make those archives a little more secure would be the inclusion of parchive into the mix. You'd have to use an archiver that splits the archive up into manageable sized chunks (I prefer rar but it might not be for everyone). parchive is used mainly on Usenet to provide a method for people to retrieve lost data from the data they have gotten. An example would be someone sends out 200 JPG images and 3 never make it to your news server. You'd grab the 197 jpgs that were there, the main par file, 3 of the additional par files and it would be able to reconstruct the remaining 3 images without requesting a fill from the original poster. I'm not sure how it works but it is much like how the parity drive on a RAID allows the RAID to reconstruct lost data from a drive failure. parchive does have its limits. Each parchive file is the same size as the largest file, you can have only 255 par files and you nee one par file per file lost regardless of size. This is why there is an almost perfect marriage between rar and par. rar allows the user to split the archive up into chunks of uniform size so the par file is the same size as the archive files save the very last one. Also since there is the 255 "lost files" limit archiving the files means you just keep the archive parts below 255 and you're fine. The normal ratio of par files to real files is 10%. While this is used a lot in usenet it can be used for backups. Imagine burning a CD and that CD gets a scratch. Some files will be lost. But you'd need to lose the original files and the par index and more par files than you lose of the originals to be unable to recover the lost data. That is far better that just losing the original data outright. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. To email: Don't despair! | -- Lenny Nero, Strange Days ---+- msg26796/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Communicator removed from Testing?
On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 23:58, Curt Howland wrote: > Personal reply if possible, I cannot keep up with the traffic on user... > > Does anyone know why Netscape Communicator has been dropped from > Testing? > > Does Mozilla email load the Communicator mail files ok? > > Chocolate or Vanilla? > > Curt- > > > -- > "Wherever I go, everyone is a little bit safer because I am there. > Wherever I am, anyone in need has a friend. > Whenever I return home, everyone is happy I am there." >---The Warrior Creed, Robert L. Humphrey, USMC Debian Weekly News warned a while back that it would get the hook, as a) it is non-free, b) it is buggy and not getting noticeably better as Netscape is looking to retire it in favour of Netscape 7, and c) it wasn't even being kept up with the latest releases of that codebase from Netscape. -- Mark L. Kahnt, FLMI/M, ALHC, HIA, AIAA, ACS, MHP ML Kahnt New Markets Consulting Tel: (613) 531-8684 / (613) 539-0935 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Can not get UDMA-100 working...
On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 09:21:04PM +0100, Dominique Deleris wrote: > Hello, > > The background: I have recently bought a new Seagate Barracuda V > disk (60 Gb), which is UDMA-100 capable. Since my motherboard > (Asus CUV4X) is only UDMA-66 ready, I have also bought a Promise IDE > controller (Ultra 133TX2). > > Now the problem: 8 times out of 10, when booting the system, my > drive is recognized as only UDMA-33! The behaviour is weird: if I > open the box and slightly move the cable, then after rebooting it > is OK. But when switching the machine on the day after, > bang... Back to UDMA-33. What happens if you use cable ties, tape, string etc to hold the cable in its 'moved' position and then switch on the day after? Or do you mean you just jiggle it, and let it settle back to where it was before? Does it help if you put the Promise card in a different slot? > I have tried to use a different cable (I was thinking of a cable > problem) but it hasn't changed anything. Apologies if this is a dumb question, but have you got the cable the right way round - blue connector on the motherboard end? Have you tried a shorter cable? If the Barracuda is the only drive on the bus, you could get a spare cable and cut it off just beyond the first drive connector, leaving just that and the blue connector. Use a good quality set of nippers where the edges of the blades meet properly, and heavy enough to cut a computer power cord *easily* - not these miniature so-called "precision" cutters - ribbon cables can be surprisingly tough. You want to go through quickly and cleanly, to avoid making "whiskers" on the cut ends which then short-circuit. > Any ideas/hints? > > I use a vanilla 2.4.20 kernel, in which I have activated the > Promise PDC202XX support. I have also chosen the "Boot off-board > chipsets first" option. Does this kernel driver have any options which you could use to force a faster UDMA mode? ide0=ata66 works with VIA chipsets but I think these options have an annoying tendency to be driver-specific. Pigeon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: compiling with large file support
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 10:23:12PM +0100, Florian Sukup wrote: > Hi, > > I managed to compile some small C-programs with large file support using > gcc flags: -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE. > > How can I make this default? Maybe with environment variables? Yes. export CFLAGS="-D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE" - stick it in your .bash_profile Pigeon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: device never checked
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 07:13:34AM -0800, Joris Huizer wrote: > I recently added a (kind of big) partition on > /dev/hdb3 (where /tmp lives) to the /etc/fstab file so > it's mounted. But I think it's never checked for > errors or anything. > > How can I make Debian check it like it does for other > partitions -ofcourse the root on /dev/hdb1, and /home > on /dev/hdb5 and /usr on /dev/hdb6 ? You know that "dump" and "pass" business in /etc/fstab? Give "pass" a value of 2 for everything other than / that you want checked (1 is only for /). See man fstab. Pigeon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bunch of musicians in a tent [was: Re: Gimp Print Problem]
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 11:36:55AM -0500, Thomas H. George,,, wrote: > How do I get back to Band Camp? OK, I've seen this once too often now. I've just got to ask: What is a Band Camp? Why does "get back to Band Camp" mean "fix my system"? Why do so many people quote emails with "This one time, at band camp..."? And why the odd phrase "This one time"? Is it a quote from something? Sorry, but this peculiar expression is doing my head in. Pigeon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's fstype 83? "Linux"?
On 2003.01.27 19:20 Haim Ashkenazi wrote: On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 23:27, will trillich wrote: > i've found an old (debian slink?) drive around the house, and > plugged it in -- but i can't mount most of the partitions! > > root# sfdisk -l /dev/hdb > > Disk /dev/hdb: 4956 cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors/track > Warning: The partition table looks like it was made > for C/H/S=*/128/63 (instead of 4956/16/63). > For this listing I'll assume that geometry. > Units = cylinders of 4128768 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes, counting from 0 > > Device Boot Start End #cyls#blocks Id System > /dev/hdb1 * 0+ 3 4- 16127+ 83 Linux > /dev/hdb2 4 64 61 245952 83 Linux > /dev/hdb3 65 618 55422337285 Extended > /dev/hdb4 0 - 0 00 Empty > /dev/hdb5 65+573 509- 2052287+ 83 Linux > /dev/hdb6574+618 45-181439+ 82 Linux swap > > yes, i know, that's an awful place for the swap partition. i > know, i know. i'm feeling much better now -- this was a few > years back, when i set this puppy up. it sure would be nice to > mount it and recover the things i'm interested in... > > i'll try mounting partitions hdb1, hdb2 and hdb5: > > root: /mnt# mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/1/ > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1, > or too many mounted file systems > > hmm! maybe if i leave off the trailing / no the mount-point-- > > root: /mnt# mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/1 > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1, > or too many mounted file systems > > nope. let's try partition 2 for fun: > > root: /mnt# mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb2 /mnt/2 > > no complaints -- IT WORKED? hmm! how about partition 5: > > root: /mnt# mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb5 /mnt/5 > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb5, > or too many mounted file systems > > can't mount #1 or #5? but #2 is okay? > > root: /mnt# df -h > FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/hda2 182M 47M 126M 27% / > /dev/hda1 7.6M 5.3M 1.9M 73% /boot > /dev/hda5 228M 203M 13M 94% /home > /dev/hda6 1.8G 828M 953M 47% /usr > /dev/hda7 1.5G 1.4G 133M 92% /var > /dev/hdb2 232M 24M 196M 11% /mnt/2 <== this one's okay > > hdb[125] are all "Linux" filesystem type 83 (ext2, right)? but > only hdb2 would mount? very much odd, here. > > ideas? (i think this was my slink disk drive -- i'd like to use > it to alleviate some space pressure on my woody server...) > > -- > I use Debian/GNU Linux version 3.0; > Linux server 2.4.20-k6 #1 Mon Jan 13 23:49:14 EST 2003 i586 unknown > > DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #94 from Joost Kooij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > : > How do you RESTORE THE DEFAULT PERMISSIONS back on the / tree? > If you have a clean host with very similar filesystem contents, > try this: > ssh root@okayhost "find / -regex '/\(mnt\|proc\|tmp\)/.*' -prune -or \ > -not -type l -not -type s -printf '%04.4m %u %g %p\n' " \ > | while read mode user group path > do > chown $user.$group $path > chmod $mode $path > done > Alternatively, create a huge script like this: > find / -regex '/\(mnt\|proc\|tmp\)/.*' -prune -or \ > -not -type l -not -type s -printf 'chown %u.%g %p\nchmod %m %p\n' \ > > fixperms.sh > And copy that to the broken machine and run "sh fixperms". > It might not fix all files, unless the two hosts are nearly > equal, but enough to let you find the missing ones to fix by > hand. Maybe /home/* will need special care. > > Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ... > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Type 83 is not nessaeseraly ext2. it could be one of many file systems suported by linux. try ext3, reiserfs (or even xfs and jfs). Bye -- Haim # dd if=/dev/hda6 bs=1k count=50 | file - 50+0 records in 50+0 records out 51200 bytes transferred in 0.116208 seconds (440589 bytes/sec) standard input: Linux rev 1.0 ext2 filesystem data (mounted or unclean) There may be a good reason not to do this, but it's always worked for me HTH, Shaun. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sendmail & cyrus21 & SASL 1, SASL 2
Hi, I installed Henrique's ( http://people.debian.org/~hmh/ ) woody backport for cyrus21. Problem is that woody's sendmail is build with SASL 1 and cyrus21 with SASL 2. Now I have two different user databases. SASL 1 is used for sendmail's SMTP_AUTH, SASL 2 is used for cyrus21 authentication. It works fine, but now I have to manage to differnet databases. Is there a way to authenticate sendmail and cyrus21 against the same user-database? Thanks Marcus -- Marcus Schopen(0> P.O. Box 10 25 25 //\ Deutsche Zope User Group D-33525 Bielefeld V_/_www.dzug.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: redirecting output to /dev/null on cron not working!
louie miranda wrote: I have a script that is on a cron basis, It runs every hour. I have read a document that if you dont want any output. You can add >/dev/null 1>&2 to redirect it to /dev/null But i still received email about those output, is this syntax im trying to add on my cron for debian correct? /scripts/cron_inactivityalert.sh >/dev/null 1>&2 Don't you mean /scripts/cron_inactivityalert.sh >/dev/null 2>&1... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: do i need stable in my sources.list?
On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 03:03:50AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 01:43:32AM +, iain d broadfoot wrote: > > testing/unstable, do i still need the stable entries? > > No. testing started out as a copy of stable. The exceptions are if you > happen to want something that's been removed from testing since the last > stable release; even then you probably didn't want it anyway, and if you > do you can always get it by hand. It is very true. I did not think about it. I always listed them all. It may be still good idea to keep following :-) deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main Osamu -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ + Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cupertino CA USA, GPG-key: A8061F32 .''`. Debian Reference: post-installation user's guide for non-developers : :' : http://qref.sf.net and http://people.debian.org/~osamu `. `' "Our Priorities are Our Users and Free Software" --- Social Contract -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Communicator removed from Testing?
Personal reply if possible, I cannot keep up with the traffic on user... Does anyone know why Netscape Communicator has been dropped from Testing? Does Mozilla email load the Communicator mail files ok? Chocolate or Vanilla? Curt- -- "Wherever I go, everyone is a little bit safer because I am there. Wherever I am, anyone in need has a friend. Whenever I return home, everyone is happy I am there." ---The Warrior Creed, Robert L. Humphrey, USMC -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lag test.
On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 16:57, Mike Dresser wrote: > On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Mike Dresser wrote: > > > The current time here is 8:58, January 27th, and if it gets bad enough, > > 2003. > > > > Just curious what the current lag is. > > two hours, for those who care :D My last post got back to me in about 42 min. Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's fstype 83? "Linux"?
will trillich wrote: On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 04:22:21PM -0800, nate wrote: will trillich said: ideas? (i think this was my slink disk drive -- i'd like to use it to alleviate some space pressure on my woody server...) what does e2fsck say for those drives you cannot mount? Try running a read-only pass on them. I can't imagine why the newer kernel would be unable to mount a slink partition(though I can see it happening the other way around), though I haven't personally tried it. root: /mnt# e2fsck /dev/hdb1 e2fsck 1.27 (8-Mar-2002) Couldn't find ext2 superblock, trying backup blocks... e2fsck: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hdb1 root: /mnt# e2fsck /dev/hdb5 e2fsck 1.27 (8-Mar-2002) Couldn't find ext2 superblock, trying backup blocks... e2fsck: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hdb5 N.B. an earlier thread noticed "bad magic" mentioned at or before LILO, so it may have been this type of thing (certainly not the file-detector 'magic number' theory)... files on /dev/hdb2 have modification times no later than september 2000 -- pre-ext3 by a long shot. and i'm *positive* i've never even tried reiserfs, certainly not two-and-a-half years ago. wasn't ext2 the default for formatting under the potato or slink install? (as i recall, potato would start out as ext2 and then offered an ext3 option later... nope, ext3 didn't work either.) and partition type 83 is linux yes, but it's just a partition type, many kinds of filesystems can reside in there. racking my brain (what there is left of it) i stir no memory of anything unusual, file-system-wise. i'm just about certain that all three of these partitions would be the same file system. yet /dev/hdb2 mounts like a charm. Dunno if this is relevant or not, but in the dim recesses of my brain I seem to recall a change in the ext2 File System about the time the kernels changed from 2.0.XX to 2.2.XX. That would definatetly be in the SLINK timeframe, I think. I can recall being asked during the install of POTATO if I wanted to retain "backwards compatability" while formatting...I think. It definately had something to do with how the ext3 FS was stored on the HD. If it has a full FS on it, could you just try plugging it in and see if it boots? Maybe digging out some old SLINK "rescue" disketts might bring it to life... Just speculating. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: do i need stable in my sources.list?
Colin Watson wrote: On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 01:43:32AM +, iain d broadfoot wrote: testing/unstable, do i still need the stable entries? No. testing started out as a copy of stable. The exceptions are if you happen to want something that's been removed from testing since the last stable release; even then you probably didn't want it anyway, and if you do you can always get it by hand. I was under the impression that you needed to keep your security sources pointing at stable, since that's the only place that emergency security patches get placed consistently. Am I incorrect? Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: instructions for setting up sound?
Daniel Barclay wrote: Can anyone point me to instructions for setting up audio that addresses kernel messages such as: modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0-0 Thanks, Daniel What does "lspci" say your sound card is (assuming it's a PCI card - if it's (E)ISA, Yikes! I'm outta here . . .)? Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: ntp ha no installation candidate (woody)
oh with the use of it, have the timeserver addy you want handy, debconf will ask you the address just type it in and away you go, give it half an hour (to sync) and then set your other boxes to query the first one (avoids unnecessary traffic to the public servers) I use ntp-simple and am immensely happy with the result the clocks in this building are also callibrated off a time server and watching the computers go "tick tick tick" in time with the clocks is a source of joy in the depressing harrowed wasteland of my life. (ok i'm exagerating about my life, but not ntp-simple) At 09:08 PM 1/27/03 -0600, will trillich wrote: >after revisiting the longest-thread-of-the-millennium again, i >thought i'd be a good citizen and get ntpd going instead of >ntpdate. > > # apt-get update > > Fetched 257kB in 4s (62.2kB/s) > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > > root: /mnt# apt-get install ntpd > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > Package ntpd has no available version, but exists in the database. > This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and > never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents > of sources.list > E: Package ntpd has no installation candidate > > root: /mnt# apt-cache show ntpd > > root: /mnt# > >odd! (suggestions welcome.) > >-- >I use Debian/GNU Linux version 3.0; >Linux server 2.4.20-k6 #1 Mon Jan 13 23:49:14 EST 2003 i586 unknown > >DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #11 from Will Trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >: >Which COMMANDS pertain to ? Try "apropos ", >"info ", and "man -k ". > >Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ... > > >-- >To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ntp ha no installation candidate (woody)
This one time, at band camp, will trillich said: > after revisiting the longest-thread-of-the-millennium again, i > thought i'd be a good citizen and get ntpd going instead of > ntpdate. > > root: /mnt# apt-get install ntpd > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > Package ntpd has no available version, but exists in the database. > This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and > never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents > of sources.list > E: Package ntpd has no installation candidate > > odd! (suggestions welcome.) steve@hadrian:~$ apt-cache show ntp Package: ntp Priority: optional Section: net Installed-Size: 428 Maintainer: Bdale Garbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> HTH, -- -- | Stephen Gran | "They that can give up essential| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | liberty to obtain a little temporary| | http://www.lobefin.net/~steve | safety deserve neither liberty nor | || safety." -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 | -- msg26779/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ntp ha no installation candidate (woody)
I use ntp-simple and am immensely happy with the result the clocks in this building are also callibrated off a time server and watching the computers go "tick tick tick" in time with the clocks is a source of joy in the depressing harrowed wasteland of my life. (ok i'm exagerating about my life, but not ntp-simple) At 09:08 PM 1/27/03 -0600, will trillich wrote: >after revisiting the longest-thread-of-the-millennium again, i >thought i'd be a good citizen and get ntpd going instead of >ntpdate. > > # apt-get update > > Fetched 257kB in 4s (62.2kB/s) > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > > root: /mnt# apt-get install ntpd > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > Package ntpd has no available version, but exists in the database. > This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and > never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents > of sources.list > E: Package ntpd has no installation candidate > > root: /mnt# apt-cache show ntpd > > root: /mnt# > >odd! (suggestions welcome.) > >-- >I use Debian/GNU Linux version 3.0; >Linux server 2.4.20-k6 #1 Mon Jan 13 23:49:14 EST 2003 i586 unknown > >DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #11 from Will Trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >: >Which COMMANDS pertain to ? Try "apropos ", >"info ", and "man -k ". > >Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ... > > >-- >To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /var still counts /var/cache
On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 10:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 03:54:57PM -0500, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote: > > I made a new partition for /var/cache since that's where all my data is. > > Unfortunately /var is still counting the contents of /var/cache and thinks > > that /var is full. I'm not sure how to tell /var that it doesn't hold > > /var/cache anymore. > [snip] > > Emma - > > Did you delete the contents of /var before mounting the new > /var/cache directory on top of it? You don't want to delete all of /var if you're only moving /var/cache ... > > I'm _not_ suggesting you just do > > # umount /var/cache > # rm /var/cache Not quite - rm won't remove a directory, and you don't want to anyway. "rm /var/cache/*" might be more useful. > # mount /var/cache > > but that would solve it. > Make sure you know what each of these steps does before trying it! Good plan :-) Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
invalid date from date -d 1969-12-31
On my system, date -d returns "invalid date" for dates before 1970. It is possible that this began when I upgraded libc6. Any suggestions? $ date -d 1969-12-31 date: invalid date `1969-12-31' $ date -d 1970-01-01 Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 EST 1970 $ uname -srpmvi Linux 2.4.18 #1 Fri Aug 16 15:40:44 EDT 2002 i686 AMD Athlon(TM) XP1900+ AuthenticAMD $ dpkg -p coreutils | grep Version Version: 4.5.2-1 $ dpkg -p libc6 | grep Version Version: 2.3.1-10 -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lag test.
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Mike Dresser wrote: > The current time here is 8:58, January 27th, and if it gets bad enough, > 2003. > > Just curious what the current lag is. > > Mike two hours, for those who care :D Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: scsi HD install Problem
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 02:39:41PM +0100, Mikkel wrote: >I got a Adaptec 29160 , and my problem is that i can't see my scsi HD ( only >my IDE HD). > you may need to load the particular scsi driver module from a floppy, but first, if it's an ide controller, the isapnp module from floppy. also, switch to terminal 2 and 'cat /proc/interrupts' for irq information. you may have to disable usb in the bios, if they use the same irq. // George >> -- >> Got Backup? >> >> >> -- >> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >-- >To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- GEORGE GEORGALIS, System Admin/Architectcell: 347-451-8229 Security Services, Web, Mail,mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Multimedia, DB, DNS and Metrics. http://www.galis.org/george -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: redirect of "ls --color" causes problems
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 08:38:12AM +0100, Lukas Ruf wrote: > * Vineet Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-01-26 08:29]: > > * David Z Maze ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030125 20:14]: > > > So while bash and zsh have aliases, you can't actually do much with > > > them. > > > What's the problem with tcsh? > > alias ls '/bin/ls --color=auto --classify -F \!*' > > works perfectly. yeah, but then you're still stuck with csh. I wonder why the sh vs. csh battle isn't mentioned a often as the vi vs. emacs battle; it seems to be hust as much of a religious issue. :-) -- Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For myself, I can only say that I am astonished and somewhat terrified at the results of this evening's experiments. Astonished at the wonderful power you have developed, and terrified at the thought that so much hideous and bad music may be put on record forever. -- Sir Arthur Sullivan, message to Edison, 1888 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gnome2--tooltips
Hi All, I was wondering if someone might be able to remind me how I can turn off tooltips in gnome2. I had to reinstall this weekend and that is the last thing I can't seem to figure out. Every time the mouse pointer runs over a panel applet a box pops up, even when I remove the text from the name and comment boxes in the applet properties. I have been looking for the documentation on this, but it may be that I overlooked the instructions. Thanks in advance, Jake -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: instructions for setting up sound?
This one time, at band camp, Daniel Barclay said: > > Can anyone point me to instructions for setting up audio that > addresses kernel messages such as: > > modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0-0 This is because the module handling system is unable to figure out which module to use for that 'service', in this cse, the first sound card. The Debian Way of fiing this is to create a file in the directory /etc/modutils, and edit it so that it includes the necessary lines for the piece of hardware being configured. In this case, it's the one line: alias sound-service-0-0 "Name_Of_Sound_Card_Module" (e.g., emu10k1,. .) Then run update-modules; this will regenerate modules.conf for you, and then hopefully the module loader will be able to figure things out for you. You'll probably also see lines about it looking for sound-slot-0-0 and others. alias them to the same module, and in the same file, when you find out what's failing. HTH, -- -- | Stephen Gran | Real programmers don't bring brown-bag | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | lunches. If the vending machine| | http://www.lobefin.net/~steve | doesn't sell it, they don't eat it. | || Vending machines don't sell quiche. | -- msg26771/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: error on root filesystem DEBIAN WON'T BOOT URGENT
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 02:05:57PM +, Colin Watson wrote: >On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 05:24:53AM -0800, Joris Huizer wrote: >> /dev/hdb1 UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY: RUN fsck MANUALLY >> (i.e., without -a or -p options) >> >> fsck failed. Please repair manually and reboot. Please >> note that the root file system is currently mounted >> read-only. To remount it read-write: >> >> # mount -n -o remount,rw / >> >> --- >> >> What should I do ? I don't know anything about inodes >> or the fsck program so I need any advice you can give > >Just do what it says. 'mount -n -o remount,rw /', then 'fsck /dev/hdb1', >and answer the questions. (Generally speaking there isn't much point >answering anything other than 'y' to fsck's questions, unless you're a >filesystem expert ...) ... so you should do 'fsck -y /dev/hdb1' to automagically answer yes to what could be hundreds or many thousands of questions! // George -- GEORGE GEORGALIS, System Admin/Architectcell: 347-451-8229 Security Services, Web, Mail,mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Multimedia, DB, DNS and Metrics. http://www.galis.org/george -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gimp Print Problem
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 11:36:55AM -0500, Thomas H. George,,, wrote: > Epson Stylus Color 860 on /dev/usblp0 installed with > CUPS+GIMP-print_v4.2.2-pre2. > > Print Test Page prints a page with color hexagon but no test. > > From a command line escputil -s -u -r /dev/usblp0 returns printer > status information. > > From a command line lp printtest results in request id is lp-81 but > nothing is printed. > > From a command line lpr printtest prints nothing and the next command > prompt is displayed. > > How do I get back to Band Camp? Maybe you can get more information on what the problem is by setting the LogLevel parameter in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf to "debug" and restart the cupsd process by running /etc/init.d/cupsys restart The /var/log/cups/error_log file will contain a detailed log of everything that is reported by the scheduler and print filters. -- Jerome msg26769/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: LinkSYS BEFSR41 router
Antonio Rodriguez declaimed: > Hi Paul, I am having some problem here. I set the ports for http and ssh > as indicated in the Advanced > Forwarding section, but I astill can not > reach the computer from the outside world. > I didn't give my machines afixed ip in setup, since it would go against > the dhcp settings ( I think). Could this be the reason for the > invisibility problem? () > From my other machine I can see now the page, but not from the WAN. > More detailed, I got the router's IP, and set the http request to port > 80 to the Linux machine where I have the apache server running. When I > point the browser to the routers ip from the outside it just hangs > there. I assume it most be some issu with permissions in the Apache > settings, or may be some module missing, but I don't exactly what the > problem is. > Any ideas? > Thanks. > Here's how mine is set up. All pages not mentioned are default settings. Setup page - LAN IP address is 192.168.1.1, all else as my ISP requires. Advanced > Forwarding - Port 22 -> 192.168.1.50, Port 80 -> 192.168.1.50 That's it! My Linux box is set to static IP address 192.168.1.50, my wife's Mac is set to 192.168.1.51. To switch your Linux box from DHCP to fixed, all you have to do is a) Note the addresses of your DNS servers. You can get this from the Windows box by running 'winipcfg' from Start>Run. (Maybe someone here knows how to get this from Linux if it's not in /etc/resolv.conf already?) b) Edit /etc/network/interfaces. Comment out the line that mentions dhcp and add the static stuff you need: auto eth0 # for dhcp #iface eth0 inet dhcp # fixed network settings iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.50 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.1.1 c) Edit /etc/resolve.conf to look like this search .com # optional nameserver nameserver d) Run the command '# ifdown eth0; ifup eth0' (or just restart) Now just set up the ports you want in Advanced > Forwarding. HTH, Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install problems: 3.0r1/i386 and Realtek 8319 network card
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 11:47:07AM +0100, Anand Buddhdev wrote: >I want to install Debian over the network. I downloaded the 2 'vanilla' >boot floppies, rescue.bin and root.bin, and booted with those. They >have kernel 2.2.22, and they did not recognise my ethernet card. Then >I decided to try the 2.4bf floppies, which have kernel 2.4.18. I see in >the kernel config that the following 3 device drivers are compiled in: > >CONFIG_8139CP=y >CONFIG_8139TOO=y >CONFIG_8139TOO_8129=y > >When I boot with these, my ethernet card is recognised, and I can choose >the network install method. However, the card actually fails to work, >even though it has been recognised. If I switch to the console on ALT-F2, >and ping the card's address, the ping works. However, I cannot ping any >other host on the network, nor can I ping the router. So the network >installation fails. I started the installation with "linux debug", >and I do see some odd errors in the debug log: > >eth0: TX timeout Try installing the mii module first (I think this card needs two modules), though you seem to have gotten far enough that it's not the problem. // George -- GEORGE GEORGALIS, System Admin/Architectcell: 347-451-8229 Security Services, Web, Mail,mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Multimedia, DB, DNS and Metrics. http://www.galis.org/george -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Backup Consensus?
hi ya On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, will trillich wrote: > On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 11:03:47PM +1100, bob parker wrote: > > FWIW I first of all dump my postgres databases into $HOME, then make a list > > of my installed (debian) packages, also in $HOME. > > > > I then backup $HOME excluding browser cache files, /etc and /usr/local. > > > > My idea is that after a disaster I'd make a minimum debian install, restore > > $HOME, /usr/local. After that I'd reinstall my packages from the list I > > gathered and then selectively restore /etc to get my configs back the way I > > had them. > > sounds like a reasonable plan. got a script or two you'd care to > share? :) bunch of backup-scripts http://www.Linux-Backup.net/app.gwif.html for simple saving /etc ( all your config files ) - stick in a floppy and copy /etc to floppy ( if it fits -- it should ) tar zcvf /dev/fd0 /etc ;; sync -- to read it -- tar ztvf /dev/fd0 - for saving debian dpkg --get-selections * > /mnt/floppy/backup.pkg.lst build up a minium debian sytem dpkg --set-selections < /mnt/floppy/backup.pkg.lst apt-get dist-upgrade apt-get upgrade verify your config files and data and install /home and /usr/local assuming you were good about where you kept your user data c ya alvin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mysterious disk activity
Ron Johnson said: > Leave it on, and fall quickly to sleep listening to white noise, > while lowering the house's thermostat, since you have an auxillary heater > in the room. I like white noise, but unfortunately not all computers emit such noise. my tivo is one, as is my laptop, I gotta turn on a powerful fan at night to drown out the tivo, which has 2 drives in it, at least one of them has gotten to the 'soft but piercing whine' point where I have trouble sleeping. Doesn't compare to my laptop, it's about 10x louder :( just gotta have enough fans to offset the whine. Used to have my redhat server in my bedroom, but it too was too loud with 5 x 10k RPM drives, the whine was loud despite 3x30CFM fans and my floor fan running. but in my living room I can barely hear the whine, since there are about 7 other computers running at any given time with lots more fans, my 48port switch's fans are really loud and do a good job at generating white noise, one time last year when a friend came in from outta town I actually slept next to my rack so he could have my bedroom for the night, wasn't too bad since there was so many fans(with all of em maybe 250CFM total) I ordered a new laptop HD which should get here tomorrow which should solve the laptop problem and triple my space at the same time :) nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Speculation: Debian GNU/Watch
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 01:27:33PM -0500, Mark L. Kahnt wrote: > Overcoming your typical limitations of watches, the Debian GNU/Watch is > a new, open source solution to portable timekeeping. A multi-user > solution, multiple people can elect to wear the same watch, and for one > person, it could be analog, for another digital, for a third a sundial, > for a fourth, a stopwatch. With wireless networking, its time server > ability allows it to correct the time of any clocks or vcrs the user > passes. > > Avoid the problems of the Microsoft WinWatch, with it's virus problems, > and tendencies to try to read 13:00 AM/PM, at which point it crashes to > a BSoD. You need to subscribe to debian-curiosa :-) -- Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] prepBut nI vrbLike adjHungarian! qWhat's artThe adjBig nProblem? -- alec flett @netscape msg26764/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Backup Consensus?
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 11:03:47PM +1100, bob parker wrote: > On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 08:32, Grant Bowman wrote: > > Is there a place where a general consensus has been reached on exactly > > what is necesary to backup a Debian system? I'm sure this has been > > asked and answered many times before, so I am looking for URLs to where > > this has been discussed in the past. > > > > I apologize in advance, but I'm not a subscriber of this list. Please > > cc me on replies. > > > > Thank you very much, > > FWIW I first of all dump my postgres databases into $HOME, then make a list > of my installed (debian) packages, also in $HOME. > > I then backup $HOME excluding browser cache files, /etc and /usr/local. > > My idea is that after a disaster I'd make a minimum debian install, restore > $HOME, /usr/local. After that I'd reinstall my packages from the list I > gathered and then selectively restore /etc to get my configs back the way I > had them. > > I've never used this in anger and I'd welcome any suggestions from the wiser > heads out there. Well, this is almost exactly what I did when I found I couldn't straightforwardly upgrade from slink to woody, and needed to install woody but keep all my settings from slink. Main difference is I didn't save /usr/local, since it was full of stuff I'd need to recompile anyway to work with the upgraded libc6. It worked... very well. See thread "Can't upgrade from slink to woody" or similar. The only problems I had were specific to the upgrade situation and wouldn't arise when restoring the original version. Couple of suggestions: - might be an idea to save /var as well - if you're into kernel customising, make sure you have a rescue kernel with built-in support for all your critical hardware (ie, not as modules). I NEARLY got caught without a kernel that would recognise my Initio 9100UW SCSI card, but managed to find one. (Phew!) Pigeon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cdrecord and BIG DISKS - Might help someone
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 11:47:37AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 21:28:16 -0800, > Marc Wilson wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 01:34:17AM +, Pigeon wrote: > > > cdrecord -v -speed=32 dev=x,y,z -dao -isosize filename.raw > > > > The hitch was the instruction to cdrecord to write the disc in > > DAO mode. Many many recorders cannot deal with the CUE sheet > > they're sent in DAO mode unless they're told the total size of > > the image. > > What works for me is option "-ignsize": > > echo "burn 800MB" ; cdrecord -v dev=lite8 -dao -ignsize cdrom.iso Hmm, didn't work for me. >From man cdrecord: -ignsize Ignore the known size of the medium. This options should be used with extreme care, it exists only for debugging purposes don't use it for other rea sons. It is not needed to write disks with more than the nominal capacity. Very odd. Pigeon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel-2.4.18 module mis-install
> "Jonathan Brandmeyer" <...> writes: > > Installed the stock kernel-image-2.4.18-i686 debian package, with dselect. > > Installed and unpacked kernel-source-2.4.18, with dselect and tar. > > Downloaded and unpacked nvidia-kernel-source and nvidia-glx-source, with > > apt-get and tar. > > Built nvidia-kernel-source the Debian Way: > > (in /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 ) > > make oldconfig > > kpkg-make modules > > You need to make sure you get the .config file that goes with the > kernel, which isn't going to be the default one in the kernel-source > package. Try copying /boot/config-2.4.18-686 to .config, and then > running 'make-kpkg modules-image' again. Thanks. It worked perfectly. > (The Righter Way to do this, from what I can tell, is even more of a > pain; you can get the kernel-image-$KVERS-i386 source package, which > build-depends on the kernel-source-$KVERS binary package; you need to > emulate its behavior to build custom modules, though. Ick. You can > also do things with kernel-build-* packages, but only in unstable, and > again not terribly cleanly.) > > -- > David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ > "Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal." > -- Abra Mitchell > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Keyboard Lockup
Hi Folks, I am having this wierd problem. When I launch a X session from the prompt and exit the keyboard locks up and become unresponsive. This happens only when I am the root user. The freeze up also happens when I hit Cntrl+Alt+ Fn to switch to the terminal when running a X session. The display card is ATI 3D Rage.(ati driver) The readme for ATI under xserver-xfree86 says that lockup can occur when a wrong mouse is choosen. I have a ps/2 mouse with scroll wheel (disabled) and it is Dell Dimension 4300. I have ps/2 as the mouse driver. I am using the unstable tree. I would appreciate some pointers Thank you regards Harshu = Never underestimate the predictibitly of stupidity! __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: active programs overview
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 01:11:41PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Fri, 2003-01-24 at 09:52, Joris Huizer wrote: > > Hello, > > > > What is the program to use when I want to know which > > programs are running ? > > $ ps -ax > $ ps -axf > $ ps -axf --cols=`echo $COLUMNS` I hate to nitpick, but all your examples should leave off the "dash" (the '-' character): ps has been hacked so that it exhibits system V behavior when provided options preceded by a dash, and bsd behavior otherwise (but it also tries the bsd behavior when the system V option you've provided don't make sense). $ ps -V procps version 2.0.7 $ ps -x Bad syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND 3553 ?S 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd 3554 pts/0S 0:00 -bash 3590 pts/0R 0:00 ps -x $ ps -ef UIDPID PPID C STIME TTY TIME CMD root 1 0 0 Jan17 ?00:00:17 init root 2 1 0 Jan17 ?00:00:00 [keventd] [ snip ] nnorman 3554 3553 0 21:18 pts/000:00:00 -bash nnorman 3591 3554 0 21:21 pts/000:00:00 ps -ef $ ps ax PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND 1 ?S 0:17 init 2 ?SW 0:00 [keventd] [ snip ] 3554 pts/0S 0:00 -bash 3592 pts/0R 0:00 ps ax Otherwise a good post; I find 'ps fax' especially useful when I'm trying to figure out which process needs killing. -- Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] When you're in command, command. -- Adm. Chester W. Nimitz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ntp ha no installation candidate (woody)
after revisiting the longest-thread-of-the-millennium again, i thought i'd be a good citizen and get ntpd going instead of ntpdate. # apt-get update Fetched 257kB in 4s (62.2kB/s) Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done root: /mnt# apt-get install ntpd Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Package ntpd has no available version, but exists in the database. This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents of sources.list E: Package ntpd has no installation candidate root: /mnt# apt-cache show ntpd root: /mnt# odd! (suggestions welcome.) -- I use Debian/GNU Linux version 3.0; Linux server 2.4.20-k6 #1 Mon Jan 13 23:49:14 EST 2003 i586 unknown DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #11 from Will Trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : Which COMMANDS pertain to ? Try "apropos ", "info ", and "man -k ". Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Switching groups - not working
Hello, everyone I want certain users to be able to switch into different groups. So I did a usermod -g/-G on them and checked the group file to make sure it did it right (and it looks like it did). So then I try out the sg and newgrp commands. Problem is, these groups don't have passwords. In the group file, the password field is an 'x', and in the group shadow file it's a '*'. But when I just press return at the switch group password prompt, it doesn't accept it. What am I doing wrong? Thanks Ian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
redirecting output to /dev/null on cron not working!
I have a script that is on a cron basis, It runs every hour. I have read a document that if you dont want any output. You can add >/dev/null 1>&2 to redirect it to /dev/null But i still received email about those output, is this syntax im trying to add on my cron for debian correct? /scripts/cron_inactivityalert.sh >/dev/null 1>&2 Please advise -- thanks, louie miranda -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's fstype 83? "Linux"?
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 04:22:21PM -0800, nate wrote: > will trillich said: > > ideas? (i think this was my slink disk drive -- i'd like to > > use it to alleviate some space pressure on my woody > > server...) > > what does e2fsck say for those drives you cannot mount? Try > running a read-only pass on them. I can't imagine why the > newer kernel would be unable to mount a slink partition(though > I can see it happening the other way around), though I haven't > personally tried it. root: /mnt# e2fsck /dev/hdb1 e2fsck 1.27 (8-Mar-2002) Couldn't find ext2 superblock, trying backup blocks... e2fsck: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hdb1 root: /mnt# e2fsck /dev/hdb5 e2fsck 1.27 (8-Mar-2002) Couldn't find ext2 superblock, trying backup blocks... e2fsck: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hdb5 N.B. an earlier thread noticed "bad magic" mentioned at or before LILO, so it may have been this type of thing (certainly not the file-detector 'magic number' theory)... files on /dev/hdb2 have modification times no later than september 2000 -- pre-ext3 by a long shot. and i'm *positive* i've never even tried reiserfs, certainly not two-and-a-half years ago. wasn't ext2 the default for formatting under the potato or slink install? (as i recall, potato would start out as ext2 and then offered an ext3 option later... nope, ext3 didn't work either.) > and partition type 83 is linux yes, but it's just a partition type, > many kinds of filesystems can reside in there. racking my brain (what there is left of it) i stir no memory of anything unusual, file-system-wise. i'm just about certain that all three of these partitions would be the same file system. yet /dev/hdb2 mounts like a charm. -- I use Debian/GNU Linux version 3.0; Linux server 2.4.20-k6 #1 Mon Jan 13 23:49:14 EST 2003 i586 unknown DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #76 from USM Bish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : To SEARCH THE CONTENTS OF A TAR.GZ file without having to extract everything: tar -tzf file.tar.gz | grep something Also try zcat. Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
exim - retry time not reached for any host
For mail I use a fetchmail+procmail+mutt+exim combination. Not every message I send but a few don't get sent to my ISP's SMTP server. When I run eximon and check the message log of messages awaiting delivery, I will see entries like: 2003-01-27 20:09:01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] T=remote_smtp defer (-44): retry time not reached for any host 2003-01-27 20:23:01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] T=remote_smtp defer (-44): retry time not reached for any host 2003-01-27 20:38:02 [EMAIL PROTECTED] T=remote_smtp defer (-44): retry time not reached for any host 2003-01-27 20:53:01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] T=remote_smtp defer (-44): retry time not reached for any host 2003-01-27 21:08:02 [EMAIL PROTECTED] T=remote_smtp defer (-44): retry time not reached for any host The message will stay in the queue until I tell exim to send it. When I check the retry rule for the SMTP server, I get: $ /usr/sbin/exim -brt outgoing.verizon.net Retry rule: * F,2h,15m; G,16h,1h,1.5; F,4d,8h; From the retry rule, I expect exim to try to resend the message every 15 minutes for the first two hours. From the above log entries, the retry rule does not appear to work as I expect. Any suggestions on how I can fix this? -- Jerome msg26754/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: do i need stable in my sources.list?
On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 01:43:32AM +, iain d broadfoot wrote: > testing/unstable, do i still need the stable entries? No. testing started out as a copy of stable. The exceptions are if you happen to want something that's been removed from testing since the last stable release; even then you probably didn't want it anyway, and if you do you can always get it by hand. -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: do i need stable in my sources.list?
On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 01:43:32AM +, iain d broadfoot wrote: > testing/unstable, do i still need the stable entries? No. -- Seneca [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sit (compressed files)
short version: http://stuffit.com/expander On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 01:27:38PM -0500, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote: > My silly designer just sent me an .sit file. Does anyone know if this can > be expanded in debian? those silly designers seem to like their silly macs. (i know i sure do...) aladdin systems is the proud owner of the stuffit compression algorithm, one of the oldest in the business (unless it's been reworked from the ground up, i think it's still based on raymond lau's code from the mid eighties... http://raylau.com/StuffIt.html) you can grab it from http://aladdinsys.com/ or (more precisely) http://stuffit.com/expander and they certainly have one for linux. NOW your problem will become, did your silly designer send you a stuffit archive of mac-only quark or photoshop docs -- or did she send you an industry-standard collection of jpegs and pdfs? -- I use Debian/GNU Linux version 3.0; Linux server 2.4.20-k6 #1 Mon Jan 13 23:49:14 EST 2003 i586 unknown DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #75 from USM Bish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : Do you want to have MUTT IGNORE PGP-SIGNED MESSAGES? To have mutt to *not* verify PGP-signed messages, you can shut it off by including set pgp_verify_sig = no in your ~/.muttrc Or you could use: set pgp_verify_sig = ask-no to have mutt prompt you each time a signed message comes up, with the default being not to verify. Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: setting up mysql-server
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 05:22:51PM -0600, Ray wrote: > i seem to be missing part of the setup on this. i can't remotely connect to > mysqld and it seems to have the TCP port disabled, but the config files seem > to say it should be using the default tcp port. > > >a few lines from /etc/mysql/my.cnf > [mysqld] > user= mysql > pid-file= /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid > socket = /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock > port= 3306 > > >a few lines from /var/log/mysql.log > /usr/sbin/mysqld, Version: 3.23.49-log, started with: > Tcp port: 0 Unix socket: /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock > > local connections to the database work just fine. Comment out skip-networking and restart the mysql. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lag test.
The current time here is 8:58, January 27th, and if it gets bad enough, 2003. Just curious what the current lag is. Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: M$ Curse
> > Just boot from your CD and fix lilo. > > "fix lilo" is a large black box with "pandora" written all over > it. > > that's not a helluva lot of information. it's a good idea to > choose one of two options: > > 1) respond with assistance or inquiries, > or > 2) don't respond. > > given the nature of the question, your response wouldn't be > likely to help much, i'm guessing. Understood and my apologies to the debian-user list. At the time, I did not see any respones to his question so I thought that by letting him know his Debian CD was bootable, this could get him started. (probably should have just emailed him directly) Then others followed up with some excellent advice beyond what I could offer. I am quite new and was helping out to the best of my ability with good intentions. I understand your point totally and will try to make more informative and helpful posts in the future. andy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: about RUNLEVELs -- was "debian rookie"
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 05:20:20PM -0600, will trillich wrote: > update-rc.d is a good way to keep the debian package system > up-to-date on your intentions. (sure, you may manually rename or > remove enough files to stop the service from auto-starting, but a > future `apt-get upgrade` may -- or may not -- undo all your hard > work, if you work outside the packaging system.) If you move files aside in /etc/rc*.d, a future 'apt-get upgrade' will not undo your changes provided that you have left at least one link there. update-rc.d isn't magic in this regard: if you remove all the links with update-rc.d, your changes will be overwritten on future upgrades. So 'update-rc.d remove' doesn't tell the package management system anything special, contrary to what your expectations might be; it just removes the links, and they'll be put back on the next upgrade. update-rc.d's remove action therefore requires an extra -f (force) option if the target of the symlink is still there. This is one of the reasons I tend to suggest moving the links around by hand rather than using update-rc.d. The semantics of the latter are just too confusing, whereas the former is relatively easily explained. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's fstype 83? "Linux"?
>Type 83 is not nessaeseraly ext2. it could be one of many file systems >suported by linux. try ext3, reiserfs (or even xfs and jfs). > On slink??? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Weird Galeon Errors
Matt Peter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Upon startup of galeon, new windows immediately popup over and over > again ad infinitum. I'm running unstable. I've tried reinstalling > galeon, to no avail. Any ideas? The answer I saw on bugs.debian.org (and that worked for me) was to dpkg-reconfigure mozilla to not use freetype. -Jason -- Jason Wojciechowski http://wonka.hampshire.edu/~jason msg26745/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
java not working in galeon
hello all - i'm having an issue with galeon and java. i currently have galeon version 1.2.7-5 from people.fsn.hu/~pasztor/debian and j2re1.3 1.3.1.02b-2 from blackdown (although the problem has existed for a while now). java works in mozilla, but when i visit the same page in galeon, it fails. when i start galeon and when i try to access a page with java i get the following error: LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/j2se/1.3/jre/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so [/usr/lib/j2se/1.3/jre/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so: undefined symbol: XtShellStrings] i'm kinda fuzzy on the whole library business, but grepping for XtShellStrings in /usr/X11R6/lib (which is in my ld.so.conf) is matched by libXt.so.6 (which is linked to in /usr/lib/mozilla). i tried setting my LD_LIBRARY_PATH to include /usr/lib/mozilla (since catting /proc/mozilla_pid/environ showed that), but no go. although i figured that this wasn't the problem (since it seems to find it), i also tried the galeon faq idea of linking to the plugin from my ~/.mozilla/plugins directory. this just got me two copies of the error message :) the plugin is showed in about:plugins... i think that's about all the information i have. i've searched usenet and the web, and most suggestions have involved upgrading to the j2re version i am already running. some posts with similar problems had the mozilla people pointing their fingers at the java people, and the java people pointing right back; but it works for me in mozilla, so i'm at a loss. i am seeing this on 2 x86 boxes, both running testing (although i believe i had the problem in woody, as well). if anyone has suggestions, please toss me an email... tia! andy -- "you tried your best, and you failed miserably. the lesson is, never try" - homer simpson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Backup Consensus?
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 12:37:57PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I use the Make CD Recovery program (http://mkcdrec.ota.be/). > What it does is allow me to make a Multi-CD, bootable backup > of my Debian filesystem. So, in the case of disaster recovery > I can boot from disk one and reinstall the whole thing from > the CDs. At my current fs size of 3Gb this fits on 5 CD's, at > 20p a disk this costs me about 1 of your english quids per > backup. I guess I could use CD-RW's but I ain't too bothered > about it. > > Make CD Revovery _might_ do compression if you need it though > to cut down on the number of disks - but I've never checked. a bootable cd collection as a backup. now that's *cool*. ever had to use it (to make *sure* the restore works)? OT: so where's the lexicon that relates quid, guinea, bob, shilling, pence, pound and so forth, for the ignorant north-americaner? :) -- I use Debian/GNU Linux version 3.0; Linux server 2.4.20-k6 #1 Mon Jan 13 23:49:14 EST 2003 i586 unknown DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #16 from Will Trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : Why are *.rpm (RED HAT PACKAGES) considered spawn of Satan? Because the Debian package system is a lot more sophisticated than the one Red Hat uses; lots more inter-dependency information is built in to a *.deb package. If you bypass that with an *.rpm file, you're taking chances with your system. Try to "apt-get install " packages if possible. (Also check out the "alien" package if you must.) Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Returned mail... am i relaying? aaugh!
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 01:26:03PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 11:09:54AM -0600, will trillich wrote: > | does this [see attachment] indicate that some spammer has found > | a way to get me to relay his mail? aaugh! > > No. It means you are the victim of a spammer using your addess as the > return address. > > Follow the headers in the message : [snip clear, step-by-step sherlocking] > Your system is ok, Will. It is unfortunate, however, when spammers > can abuse correct but sub-optimal SMTP servers to deliver the spam as > a bounce. very nice explanation. i'll be able to do s'more of my own snooping next time. many thanks! -- I use Debian/GNU Linux version 3.0; Linux server 2.4.20-k6 #1 Mon Jan 13 23:49:14 EST 2003 i586 unknown DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #124 from dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : So you've decided to BLOCK ALL TRAFFIC EXCEPT SSH. What you need to do is specify the port to allow. ssh uses port 22 by default -- With iptables try: iptables -A INPUT -p TCP --dport ssh -j ACCEPT This says that in the input chain, for tcp packets, if the port number matches ssh in /etc/services then accept the packet regardless of IP addresses. (This should give you a pointer towards the necessary ipchains options if you don't have iptables available.) Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Returned mail... am i relaying? aaugh!
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 04:10:33PM -0500, Jeremy Gaddis wrote: > Something that I recommend for anyone putting a mail server > on the 'net that's open to the public is to telnet to > 'relay-test.mail-abuse.org' *FROM* the mail server. The > remote host will run a series of tests to see if your system > will openly relay for it. most cool! Trying 204.152.187.123... Connected to cygnus.mail-abuse.org. Escape character is '^]'. [snippage] >>> rset <<< 250 Reset OK >>> QUIT <<< 221 server closing connection Tested host banner: 220 server ESMTP Exim 3.35 #1 Mon, 27 Jan 2003 20:07:59 -0600 System appeared to reject relay attempts Connection closed by foreign host. "System appeared to reject relay attempts" ah, that's what we're after. i feel much better. (i know that one barrage of tests does not a secure email server make, but still--) -- I use Debian/GNU Linux version 3.0; Linux server 2.4.20-k6 #1 Mon Jan 13 23:49:14 EST 2003 i586 unknown DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #59 from Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : Wanting to SYNCHRONIZE YOUR SYSTEM CLOCK periodically? If you think your system clock gathers or loses a few extra seconds each day, you're probably looking for "ntp" which queries several "network time protocol" servers, and sets your system clock accordingly. apt-get install ntp ntp-simple ntp-doc ntpdate then browse /usr/share/doc/ntp-doc/html for info. Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sort of OT: network logins
The subject doesn't really explain what I am looking for, but I couldn't think of a better two-word summary. I know this is a bit off topic, but I was hoping the collective expertise would provide me with some ideas. I am looking for an approach to the problem of having multiple installations of debian on each computer on my lan that I use. While it is certainly reasonable to have a minimal install on each system, consisting of a basic debian system, it seems counterproductive to have to install each program that I use on each workstation, rather than having such software "served" by a central applications server. My present setup consists of a fileserver which exports various directories via nfs, including both a network-wide data store (called /share, for lack of a better idea), and /home. /home of course contains all my home directories (for myself and everyone else using our systems), and on each local workstation I have a full debian install with all software, and in the /home directory the actual files are symlinks to the appropriate nfs share. By way of example, the workstation mounts server:/home onto /nfs; my home directory on the workstation (/home/nl) is a symlink to /nfs/nl. This way, no matter which workstation I log into, I have my global /home/nl directory. Network-wide logins are handled by nis. Currently, I install all software onto each workstation. It would be far easier, however, to install it once onto an application server and have it available to each workstation. I've thought of two possible solutions: 1) Somehow get apt to install the software to /opt on the server, and nfs mount /opt to each workstation; 2) Install as usual to the server, and have each workstaiton mount /usr via nfs from the server; Since /etc would be local to each workstation, the same install could conceivably be used by each system with it operating differently because of different config files (X comes to mind here, since hardware may differ). Another issue is that I use KDE. On the plus side, if I edit my kde menus on one system to point to the appropriate places in /usr or /opt, then since menus are stored in my home directory, I'll have the right stuff whereever I log in. A problem, however, is that (as far as I can tell) KDE does not understand multiple simultaneous logins, and therefore I risk file corruption (or worse?) if I log in twice to my account at the same time. I had thought of solving this latter problem by implementing a login script to copy /home//.kde from the server to local storage, and then a logout script to sync it back onto the server at logout. Theoretically, I would need to do this for any porgrams that cannot sucessfully sync shared storage (like evolution), however - so this isn't really a good overall solution. I am also unsure how to make kde run a script at session start and end (or if there is even a way to make this happen under KDE). Any advice, pointers to references, etc, thoughts greatly appreciated. nl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Mysterious disk activity
On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 15:37, Pigeon wrote: > On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 10:03:05AM +0100, Rogier Wolff wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 01:58:04AM +, Pigeon wrote: > > > Hi, [snip] > No, I switch it off when I'm not using it. I sleep in the same room > and 4 fans and 6 disk drives make a lot of noise... Also the power > consumption, and resulting temperature rise in the room, are > non-negligible. Leave it on, and fall quickly to sleep listening to white noise, while lowering the house's thermostat, since you have an auxillary heater in the room. -- +---+ | Ron Johnson, Jr.mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Jefferson, LA USA http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson | | | | "Fear the Penguin!!" | +---+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: Rio SonicBlue S10
I am trying to figure out if this device is supported under linux-usb. I've found no direct references to it (the Rio-500 seems supported by a specific driver, but that's the closest I've come). It seems that this device might be supported as a usb mass storage device - usb-storage driver. Does anyone know if that is true? If so, am I correct in assuming that the proper filesystem to mount is FAT? Thanks. nl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's fstype 83? "Linux"?
Maybe try an fsck on them first? Or could you have used a different filesystem? reiserfs, maybe? On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 15:27, will trillich wrote: > i've found an old (debian slink?) drive around the house, and > plugged it in -- but i can't mount most of the partitions! > > root# sfdisk -l /dev/hdb > > Disk /dev/hdb: 4956 cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors/track > Warning: The partition table looks like it was made > for C/H/S=*/128/63 (instead of 4956/16/63). > For this listing I'll assume that geometry. > Units = cylinders of 4128768 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes, counting from 0 > > Device Boot Start End #cyls#blocks Id System > /dev/hdb1 * 0+ 3 4- 16127+ 83 Linux > /dev/hdb2 4 64 61 245952 83 Linux > /dev/hdb3 65 618 55422337285 Extended > /dev/hdb4 0 - 0 00 Empty > /dev/hdb5 65+573 509- 2052287+ 83 Linux > /dev/hdb6574+618 45-181439+ 82 Linux swap > > yes, i know, that's an awful place for the swap partition. i > know, i know. i'm feeling much better now -- this was a few > years back, when i set this puppy up. it sure would be nice to > mount it and recover the things i'm interested in... > > i'll try mounting partitions hdb1, hdb2 and hdb5: > > root: /mnt# mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/1/ > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1, > or too many mounted file systems > > hmm! maybe if i leave off the trailing / no the mount-point-- > > root: /mnt# mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/1 > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1, > or too many mounted file systems > > nope. let's try partition 2 for fun: > > root: /mnt# mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb2 /mnt/2 > > no complaints -- IT WORKED? hmm! how about partition 5: > > root: /mnt# mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb5 /mnt/5 > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb5, > or too many mounted file systems > > can't mount #1 or #5? but #2 is okay? > > root: /mnt# df -h > FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/hda2 182M 47M 126M 27% / > /dev/hda1 7.6M 5.3M 1.9M 73% /boot > /dev/hda5 228M 203M 13M 94% /home > /dev/hda6 1.8G 828M 953M 47% /usr > /dev/hda7 1.5G 1.4G 133M 92% /var > /dev/hdb2 232M 24M 196M 11% /mnt/2 <== this one's okay > > hdb[125] are all "Linux" filesystem type 83 (ext2, right)? but > only hdb2 would mount? very much odd, here. > > ideas? (i think this was my slink disk drive -- i'd like to use > it to alleviate some space pressure on my woody server...) -- +---+ | Ron Johnson, Jr.mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Jefferson, LA USA http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson | | | | "Fear the Penguin!!" | +---+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sit (compressed files)
Alternatively, you can email me the file -- if you trust me with it :-) , and I'll unsit it on my Mac laptop, which is plugged into my system, and fire it back. The version of Stuffit I have is pretty much up to date. Cam * Haim Ashkenazi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi > > I don't know what's in the 'macutils' package but you need to open it > with 'stuffit expander' for linux. I remember having one for linux, so > if you won't find it on the web email me and I'll search for it on my > cd's. > -- Cam Ellison Ph.D. R.Psych. From Roberts Creek on B.C.'s incomparable Sunshine Coast [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Backup Consensus?
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 11:03:47PM +1100, bob parker wrote: > FWIW I first of all dump my postgres databases into $HOME, then make a list > of my installed (debian) packages, also in $HOME. > > I then backup $HOME excluding browser cache files, /etc and /usr/local. > > My idea is that after a disaster I'd make a minimum debian install, restore > $HOME, /usr/local. After that I'd reinstall my packages from the list I > gathered and then selectively restore /etc to get my configs back the way I > had them. sounds like a reasonable plan. got a script or two you'd care to share? :) -- I use Debian/GNU Linux version 3.0; Linux server 2.4.20-k6 #1 Mon Jan 13 23:49:14 EST 2003 i586 unknown DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #48 from Will Trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : To peruse your CURRENT VIM SETTINGS (there's LOTS of them) from within Vim, simply do :options You can change them there, on-the-fly, as well. Type "ctrl-W ctrl-W" to switch "panes" or "ctrl-W q" to close one. Try ":help" to learn more. Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Swap and ext3 (was: tune2fs ext2 -> ext3 do I do it to swap ???)
On 27 Jan 2003 15:29:18 -0600 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Heck, not only would it not do anything useful for you, you just can't > do it!! Well, technically you can after a fashion. You can make a swap file on the current file system which could be ext3. In fact I've done just that with swapd. Question is what effects do a journalling file system have on swap files? -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. To email: Don't despair! | -- Lenny Nero, Strange Days ---+- msg26733/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: apt-get
On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 08:08:43PM -0600, N.D.O wrote: > I understand the apt-get , the thing is how do i add a source to the > sources.list so that debian will know where to find something and it will > know where to find, lets say opera, just giving an example. try apt-setup for alternative apt servers; and for unofficial (not fully integrated by the debian.org team -- but they're working *.deb packages nonetheless) try the ones listed at http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Linux/Distributions/Debian/APT_Sources/ http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/ Operating_Systems/Linux/ Distributions/Debian/APT_Sources/ or just http://www.google.com/search?q=unofficial+debian+sources.list also see the apt-get intro at http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/ -- I use Debian/GNU Linux version 3.0; Linux server 2.4.20-k6 #1 Mon Jan 13 23:49:14 EST 2003 i586 unknown DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #6 from Will Trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : How do you keep text from SCROLLING BY TOO DAMN FAST? :) Before pressing the ENTER key of a command that you know will generate a lot of output, "pipe" it through your pager: ls -lR | pager locate tgz | pager grep -r pattern /home | pager You can also try - to scroll back. This works both at the console and in rxvt/xterm windows. Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: partition is NOT CHECKED before mounting
Joris Huizer said:
> The partition is NOT checked before mounting - and I
> get warnings on that. This is the /dev/hdb3 partition
> where /tmp lives.
I'm not 100% sure what message your seeing but I think
I know which one it is. Try to go to single user mode('init 1')
and unmount /tmp and run fsck on it manually, then mount it
again, and go back to default runlevel(logout, or 'init 2') and
you should be set to go.
if that doesn't do it, paste exactly what messages you see and
perhaps someone can help further.
nate
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do i need stable in my sources.list?
testing/unstable, do i still need the stable entries? iain -- wh33, y1p33 3tc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sun java in testing
Antonio Rodriguez wrote: > Is the java sun 1.3.1 version compatible with testing? If so, do they > have debs, apt sources, or just plain download? > Thanks, Dough ( I am very interested in this drawboard thing, and don't > have a clue about java programming, so I will probably need all the help > that I can get) There are debs available, try adding the following line to /etc/apt/sources.list: deb ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/devel/lang/java/blackdown.org/debian testing main non-free You should be able to install j2se1.3 or j2se1.4. Fraser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: setting up mysql-server
-- this is a resend, its been over an hour, and the 1st hasn't shown up on the list yet. i'm assuming my mail server dropped it -- i seem to be missing part of the setup on this. i can't remotely connect to mysqld and it seems to have the TCP port disabled, but the config files seem to say it should be using the default tcp port. >a few lines from /etc/mysql/my.cnf [mysqld] user= mysql pid-file= /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid socket = /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock port= 3306 >a few lines from /var/log/mysql.log /usr/sbin/mysqld, Version: 3.23.49-log, started with: Tcp port: 0 Unix socket: /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock local connections to the database work just fine. --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's fstype 83? "Linux"?
will trillich said: > ideas? (i think this was my slink disk drive -- i'd like to use > it to alleviate some space pressure on my woody server...) what does e2fsck say for those drives you cannot mount? Try running a read-only pass on them. I can't imagine why the newer kernel would be unable to mount a slink partition(though I can see it happening the other way around), though I haven't personally tried it. and partition type 83 is linux yes, but it's just a partition type, many kinds of filesystems can reside in there. nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sit (compressed files)
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 09:25:09PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Run "mandb" as root, Or preferably as the 'man' user. If you run it as root it should behave as if run as 'man' anyway - I think - but best not to involve root when it isn't necessary. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: partition is NOT CHECKED before mounting
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Joris Huizer wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I've got this question: I recently added a partition > to the /etc/fstab file so it's mounted during boot > time. I haven't done that before and I probably made a > mistake somewhere. > > The partition is NOT checked before mounting - and I > get warnings on that. This is the /dev/hdb3 partition > where /tmp lives. > > How can I make it being checked before mounting ? hit the reset switch ... :-) ( just kidding ) root# init 1 root# umount /tmp root# e2fsck /dev/hda3 root# mount /tmp root# init 3 umount each of your partitions to manually run e2fsck on it if the system complans that the partition is in use, easiest for you to just properly reboot and go into single user on its boot up... and manually e2fsck it and/or create the /forcefsck(?) flag before rebooting c ya alvin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
instructions for setting up sound?
Can anyone point me to instructions for setting up audio that addresses kernel messages such as: modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0-0 Thanks, Daniel -- Daniel Barclay [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fonts in tables
On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 09:23:56PM +0100, Robert Land wrote: > Thank you very much for your assistance Emma. > I hoped not to use style sheets because the w3m > version I am using does not seem to support CSS - > so I tried something in between - and hoped > for the best. > Is there something else I could use to format > only one column (using html) with one stroke > instead of - puh...keying for all rows in the > desired column the tag? Are you sure it's the CSS part that's not supported? I could be that and aren't supported by w3m and that's why you're not seeing the styling. I tried to install w3m to see what you were talking about, but the packages didn't want to install. emma -- Emma Jane Hogbin [[ 416 417 2868 ][ www.xtrinsic.com ]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: partition is NOT CHECKED before mounting
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 01:52:14PM -0800, Joris Huizer wrote: > I've got this question: I recently added a partition > to the /etc/fstab file so it's mounted during boot > time. I haven't done that before and I probably made a > mistake somewhere. > > The partition is NOT checked before mounting - and I > get warnings on that. This is the /dev/hdb3 partition > where /tmp lives. > > How can I make it being checked before mounting ? Make sure the sixth (last) field of its line in /etc/fstab is 2. -- Seneca [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: error on root filesystem DEBIAN WON'T BOOT URGENT
Hi I would boot from the cd/floppy in rescue mode (not from the kernel on the hard-disk) and then run fsck on each ext2/3 partition. hopefully it will be able to fix all the errors. This happens from time to time when you use non-journalistic file system. you should consider using reiserfs/xfs/jfs etc... (I personally don't like ext3). Bye On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 15:31, Joris Huizer wrote: > Hello everybody > > I've got a big problem now: > > First, I had a weird warning about a change in memory > while nothing should have changed - I did nothing > special to cause such a thing... Anyway, then the > probs go on: > > When I try to boot I get an error message when the > check for the root system starts. > These are the outputs: > > --- > > checking root system... > fsck 1.27 (8-Mar-2002) > /dev/hdb1 contains a filesystem with errors, check > forced. > /dev/hdb1: ... > unattached inode 917614 > > /dev/hdb1 UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY: RUN fsck MANUALLY > (i.e., without -a or -p options) > > fsck failed. Please repair manually and reboot. Please > note that the root file system is currently mounted > read-only. To remount it read-write: > > # mount -n -o remount,rw / > > --- > > What should I do ? I don't know anything about inodes > or the fsck program so I need any advice you can give > > Thanks in advance, > > Joris Huizer > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Haim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's fstype 83? "Linux"?
On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 23:27, will trillich wrote: > i've found an old (debian slink?) drive around the house, and > plugged it in -- but i can't mount most of the partitions! > > root# sfdisk -l /dev/hdb > > Disk /dev/hdb: 4956 cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors/track > Warning: The partition table looks like it was made > for C/H/S=*/128/63 (instead of 4956/16/63). > For this listing I'll assume that geometry. > Units = cylinders of 4128768 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes, counting from 0 > > Device Boot Start End #cyls#blocks Id System > /dev/hdb1 * 0+ 3 4- 16127+ 83 Linux > /dev/hdb2 4 64 61 245952 83 Linux > /dev/hdb3 65 618 55422337285 Extended > /dev/hdb4 0 - 0 00 Empty > /dev/hdb5 65+573 509- 2052287+ 83 Linux > /dev/hdb6574+618 45-181439+ 82 Linux swap > > yes, i know, that's an awful place for the swap partition. i > know, i know. i'm feeling much better now -- this was a few > years back, when i set this puppy up. it sure would be nice to > mount it and recover the things i'm interested in... > > i'll try mounting partitions hdb1, hdb2 and hdb5: > > root: /mnt# mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/1/ > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1, > or too many mounted file systems > > hmm! maybe if i leave off the trailing / no the mount-point-- > > root: /mnt# mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/1 > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1, > or too many mounted file systems > > nope. let's try partition 2 for fun: > > root: /mnt# mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb2 /mnt/2 > > no complaints -- IT WORKED? hmm! how about partition 5: > > root: /mnt# mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb5 /mnt/5 > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb5, > or too many mounted file systems > > can't mount #1 or #5? but #2 is okay? > > root: /mnt# df -h > FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/hda2 182M 47M 126M 27% / > /dev/hda1 7.6M 5.3M 1.9M 73% /boot > /dev/hda5 228M 203M 13M 94% /home > /dev/hda6 1.8G 828M 953M 47% /usr > /dev/hda7 1.5G 1.4G 133M 92% /var > /dev/hdb2 232M 24M 196M 11% /mnt/2 <== this one's okay > > hdb[125] are all "Linux" filesystem type 83 (ext2, right)? but > only hdb2 would mount? very much odd, here. > > ideas? (i think this was my slink disk drive -- i'd like to use > it to alleviate some space pressure on my woody server...) > > -- > I use Debian/GNU Linux version 3.0; > Linux server 2.4.20-k6 #1 Mon Jan 13 23:49:14 EST 2003 i586 unknown > > DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #94 from Joost Kooij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > : > How do you RESTORE THE DEFAULT PERMISSIONS back on the / tree? > If you have a clean host with very similar filesystem contents, > try this: > ssh root@okayhost "find / -regex '/\(mnt\|proc\|tmp\)/.*' -prune -or \ > -not -type l -not -type s -printf '%04.4m %u %g %p\n' " \ > | while read mode user group path > do > chown $user.$group $path > chmod $mode $path > done > Alternatively, create a huge script like this: > find / -regex '/\(mnt\|proc\|tmp\)/.*' -prune -or \ > -not -type l -not -type s -printf 'chown %u.%g %p\nchmod %m %p\n' \ > > fixperms.sh > And copy that to the broken machine and run "sh fixperms". > It might not fix all files, unless the two hosts are nearly > equal, but enough to let you find the missing ones to fix by > hand. Maybe /home/* will need special care. > > Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ... > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Type 83 is not nessaeseraly ext2. it could be one of many file systems suported by linux. try ext3, reiserfs (or even xfs and jfs). Bye -- Haim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
setting up mysql-server
i seem to be missing part of the setup on this. i can't remotely connect to mysqld and it seems to have the TCP port disabled, but the config files seem to say it should be using the default tcp port. >a few lines from /etc/mysql/my.cnf [mysqld] user= mysql pid-file= /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid socket = /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock port= 3306 >a few lines from /var/log/mysql.log /usr/sbin/mysqld, Version: 3.23.49-log, started with: Tcp port: 0 Unix socket: /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock local connections to the database work just fine. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
