fontconfig doesn't read local configuration
Hi everyone, I was trying to configure fontconfig so that it will read the local configuation file (/etc/local.conf) where I have a font path to /usr/local/share/fonts and all my "local" fonts are at /usr/local/share/fonts/truetype/microsoft/*.ttf /usr/local/share/fonts/truetype/arphic/unifonts2k/*.ttf no local fonts show up. anyone knows what's happening? -- Edwin ERTW Lau __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
monitor locks up when exiting X
My monitor powers down (led turns yellow) whenever I ctl+alt+F* or from ctl+alt+backspace and from rebooting or shutting down, I get no messages from shutting down because my screen is black and the LED seems to indicate that it turned itself off. X works fine but exiting it kinda makes me worry that it could damage my monitor. Elijah -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AARRGGHH: Samba + WinXP Home
On Wednesday 05 February 2003 04:08 am, David Purton wrote: ; ; Hi, ; ; We Just bought a new server at work and its running linux + samba. ; ; Most seems to run fine, except I can't make the WinXP boxes remember ; their passwords for reconnecting to shares at login. ; ; What do I need to set in either smb.conf or on the XP boxes to get the ; to reconnenct automatically at login? ; ; A temporary work around is putting a batch file in the startup folder ; with a few net use statements in them, but this is hardly ; satisfactory. ; ; ; Although I didn't spend long trying, I got the same behaviour under ; Win2K professional. ; ; I'm assuming this is a problem with my smb.conf, since surely even MS ; wouldn't set things up like this on purpose? ; ; I'm using encrypted passwords, and they seem to work fine and user ; level security. ; ; From samba logs, the WinXP boxes send the correct username when they ; try to reconnect, but the logs report a bad username/password pair. ; ; I've googled lots, found many similar looking problems, but haven't ; had any luck in trying to get things working :( ; ; Any suggestions would be muchly appreciated. ; ; dc ; You gave to have encrypt passwords = true and I think security = SHARE in you smb.conf to connect to winxp. Cynthia -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sed help
Hi?
Elie De Brauwer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] helped me before.
but I cannot touch with him.why.
so ask you please help me
The identity is not www but the first +- simbol.
c:\tmp\mbc+-www.mbc.co.kr+-cgi-bin+-cgi.cgi
c:\tmp\mbc+-cs.mbc.co.kr+-cgi-bin+-cgi.cgi
c:\tmp\mbc+-cdi.kbs.co.kr+-cgi-bin+-cgi.cgi
=>
www.mbc.co.kr+-cgi-bin+-cgi.cgi
cs.mbc.co.kr+-cgi-bin+-cgi.cgi
cdi.kbs.co.kr+-cgi-bin+-cgi.cgi
Please help again..
Besides, I'd like to insert ping 66.66.66.66 everylines
for waiting several seconds.. So the last output is like,
www.mbc.co.kr+-cgi-bin+-cgi.cgi
ping 66.66.66.66
cs.mbc.co.kr+-cgi-bin+-cgi.cgi
ping 66.66.66.66
cdi.kbs.co.kr+-cgi-bin+-cgi.cgi
ping 66.66.66.66
Thanks,
GGG
- Original Message -
From: "Elie De Brauwer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "behapy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: sed GURU help me~
> something like this ?
>
> helios@Kafka:~$ cat test.txt
> c:\tmp\kbs+-www.kbs.co.kr+-cgi-bin+-test.cgi
> c:\tmp\mbc+-www.mbc.co.kr+cgi-bn+-sample.cgi
> c:\tmp\sbs+-www.sbs.co.kr+-cwb-bin+-sbs.cgi
> helios@Kafka:~$ cat test.txt | sed 's/\(.*\)\(www.*$\)/move\ \"\1\2\"\ \2/'
> move "c:\tmp\kbs+-www.kbs.co.kr+-cgi-bin+-test.cgi"
> www.kbs.co.kr+-cgi-bin+-test.cgi
> move "c:\tmp\mbc+-www.mbc.co.kr+cgi-bn+-sample.cgi"
> www.mbc.co.kr+cgi-bn+-sample.cgi
> move "c:\tmp\sbs+-www.sbs.co.kr+-cwb-bin+-sbs.cgi"
> www.sbs.co.kr+-cwb-bin+-sbs.cgi
>
> hth
>
> > Thank you for the answer before..
> >
> > c:\tmp\kbs+-www.kbs.co.kr+-cgi-bin+-test.cgi
> > c:\tmp\mbc+-www.mbc.co.kr+cgi-bn+-sample.cgi
> > c:\tmp\sbs+-www.sbs.co.kr+-cwb-bin+-sbs.cgi
> >
> > => I'd like to change the above to the below..
> >
> > move "c:\tmp\kbs+-www.kbs.co.kr+-cgi-bin+-test.cgi"
> > www.kbs.co.kr+-cgi-bin+-test.cgi move
> > "c:\tmp\mbc+-www.mbc.co.kr+cgi-bn+-sample.cgi"
> > www.mbc.co.kr+cgi-bn+-sample.cgi move
> > "c:\tmp\sbs+-www.sbs.co.kr+-cwb-bin+-sbs.cgi"
> > www.sbs.co.kr+-cwb-bin+-sbs.cgi
> > sed -e "s/^insert move " insert again only www.~~
> >
> > Please help me sed GURU..
> >
> > Thanks,
> > GGG
>
> --
> <=>
> Elie De Brauwer
> www.de-brauwer.be
> <=>
>
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Re: Vim error
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 09:21:55PM +0530, Sridhar M.A. wrote: | I am using vim from unstable on my sarge (mainly) system. Since this | evening, I am not able to get the help command to work from within vim. | | When I give the command help in vim, I get the following message: | | "help.txt.gz" [readonly][noeol] 8L, 3051C | E434: Can't find tag pattern | Hit ENTER or type command to continue | | After that, the help.txt.gz file is opened and I see non-readable | characters on my screen. I purged and reinstalled vim, still the same | problem. I also moved my .vim/ out of the way in vain. | | Can someone suggest a solution for this? I suspect that the automatic gzip handling isn't working. The last time I saw this happen it was the result of the system-wide configuration from the vim 5.x packages lingering around and causing a conflict with some of the new features in vim 6.0. Look in /etc/vimrc (or /etc/vim/vimrc) and remove any autcommands relating to gzip. They are no longer needed, and will cause a conflict. HTH, -D -- Micros~1 : For when quality, reliability and security just aren't that important! http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/ msg29076/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: partitioning hard drive & /usr is already 96% full
On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 17:35, Hans Wilmer wrote: > On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 07:41:55AM -0900, Andy wrote: > > > > > Question for the list: > > What is the lists advice in managing my /usr partition > > so it does not completetly fill up and cause problems in the future? > > Make it 2 GB as a minimum; that you'll need more than 4 GB is unlikely > for quite some time. > Umm, I'm actually chasing around the limits of an 8 GB partition for /usr, as I have pretty well all of Gnome and KDE on this system, as well as a significant amount on /usr/src (at least the source of each of three editions of kernels, that I reference with Lilo) and over a gig without any real effort under /usr/local (a few games from Loki pads that out quickly.) /usr/share is a significant block now. When I first looked at it a few years back, it was only a few MB at most, primarily the fortune files and things like miscfiles (ISO codes, area codes, airport codes, etc.) It is now over 2 GB here. The consideration is simply how many things you plan to install, and how complex of a system it will be. I have 2 GB as well for /opt, which is normally substantively full, but much of what is there tends to be software I'm testing, rather than regular things (such as Netscape 6 and 7, Phoenix, IBM WebSphere and DB2, etc.) > But keep in mind that both 2 and 4 GB can get too small: My /usr > partition is 4.3G and holds 2.0G, but besides I'm using an /opt > partition to store games, staroffice and such. That makes for another > 5.5G. > > For /, I've never needed more than 100 MB. You can do with 60M for it, > if you want a tight setup. > > Plan to have your partitions no more than about 50% used, except when > you have spare disks at hand or no choice. In case you need to copy > some partition over to another, this will be very helpful, and > partitions tend to fill up to more than 50% automagically anyway. > > In case you're low on disc space, try to keep those partitions small > that will contain mostly static data, like /usr and /, to the benefit > of others. > > Use 64M for /tmp at least, better 128. What you need for /var depends > on the services using it --- make it at least 256M when you've no > special needs. > > And don't forget to setup sufficient swap space :) > > > GH -- Mark L. Kahnt, FLMI/M, ALHC, HIA, AIAA, ACS, MHP ML Kahnt New Markets Consulting Tel: (613) 531-8684 / (613) 539-0935 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: How to prevent x startup
* Bill Moseley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030206 20:02]: > On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Colin Watson wrote: > > > Frank's quite correct: there's no particular reason why xdm should be > > reinstalled on upgrade, and you'll be told about it if for some bizarre > > reason this is going to happen. > > Ah good, thanks for the clearing up what Frank was implying. > > So if package a package such as x-window-system depends on another > package, say xdm, and after installation you remove xdm. Then what You can't just remove a package that another installed package depends upon. A package installed without its depended-upon packages is broken. The package management tools try to keep you from getting into such an inconsistent state. > happens if dist-upgrade wants to install a newer version of > x-window-system that depends on xdm which is not installed? Will xdm not > be installed? I understand that apt-get will say that it's going to do > so. What you might be thinking of is a new package being introduced into debian or a package whose dependencies change. The 'dist-upgrade' action will install new packages in order to satisfy dependencies of already installed packages. For example, you have version 3.0 of package 'foo'. Then you apt-get update and learn that there's a version 3.2, which now depends on 'bar'. If you then did 'apt-get upgrade', you'd see that foo would be held back, as the dependencies would not be met by upgrading it. 'apt-get dist-upgrade' will tell you "the following additional packages are being installed: bar" and continue to upgrade to foo version 3.2 and the current version of bar. Note that this has nothing to do with whether or not you've ever had bar on your system. It has nothing to do with a package removed being reinstalled -- just that it needs to be installed to satisfy a package you've requested to upgrade. good times, Vineet -- http://www.doorstop.net/ -- "Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything offered to me as the result of an unsolicited email message. Nor will I forward chain letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus warnings to large numbers of others. This is my contribution to the survival of the online community." - Roger Ebert, "The Boulder Pledge" msg29074/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Installing Non-Debian Programs w/out Apt -- what effect?
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 06:48:47PM -, Colin Ellis wrote: > General Rule - anything not part of the distribution, compile from source > and use the installation prefix of /usr/local/ > > This will keep your custom installation separate from the distribution and > give you an easy upgrade route later on. > > If the program needs it's own shared libraries then don't forget to add the > /usr/local/lib path to /etc/ld.so.conf. I like to take this a step further; I prefer to install anything that isn't in a Debian package within my home directory. I have ~/ports/usr, ~/ports/bin, ~/ports/var etc. This makes it utterly impossible for a bad port to break my system, and the worst I ever have to do in order to roll back is to wipe out these directories and restore from a backup. This also eases my backup strategy. I don't bother with /usr, /bin or other directories which can be reconstructed entirely by reinstalling the same set of packages. Since /home is backed up completely, the software I'd have to track down and reconfigure is fully backed up. Of course, YMMV -- this won't work so well if you're installing for multiple users on a single system. Brian McGroarty http://www.mcgroarty.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to prevent x startup
David Turetsky wrote: > David Turetsky wrote: > [...] > How do I abort the startup of x? > > Kent West > > At the LILO: prompt, enter "linux single". [...] David Turetsky > > YES!!! Thank you. Now I can go on to experiment with corrections to > my XF86Config file [...] > If I had not had such a misspent youth, I might have remembered > 'linux single,' but then . . . Hah! Your supposed to read the books, not eat the covers. :) For a quick and dirty way to disable GDM, open /etc/init.d/gdm. Right after the hash-bang, make the next line 'exit 0'. When you get your config right, you can simply delete the line or comment it out. -- gt [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you find you've dug yourself into a hole, stop digging. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel compile failure
On approximately Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 11:30:20PM -0600, Michael Heironimus wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 07:08:03PM -0800, Torrin wrote:
> > I'm having trouble compiling kernel 2.4.20 on my woody system. I'm
> > using gcc version 2.95.4
> >
> > I issue the command . . .
> > su -c "make-kpkg kernel_image"
> >
> > After compiling some files it always ends up with an error like . . .
> >
> > gcc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 4
> > make[1]: *** [init/main.o] Error 1
> > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.20'
> > make: *** [stamp-build] Error 2
> > {standard input}: Assembler messages:
> > {standard input}:0: Warning: end of file not at end of a line; newline inserted
> > {standard input}:500: Error: no such instruction: `j'
>
>
> The first thing to check when you get strange inconsistent errors in a
> compile is bad hardware, bad memory seems to be a particularly common
> cause.
>
I would guess that you are overclocking?
Josh
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Re: KDE 3.1 in sid
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 08:30:31PM +0100, Rudy Gevaert wrote: > Btw, is kde3.1 already in sid? I thought when I did my upgrade kde > would be upgraded, but nothing happend... Give it time for the dependancies to work out. -- .''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than to fix a system msg29070/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: spaces in filenames
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 01:11:26PM -0500, Sheldon Lee-Wen wrote: > However, some of the files have spaces in the names, like "My File.html" > How do I get $doc to have the correct file name? Quote the filename. -- .''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than to fix a system msg29069/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sylog Error Messages
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 06:19:33PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > It's from scanner.abuse.blueyonder.co.uk, in fact. I guess this is the > original poster's ISP; certainly it seems highly unlikely to be > malicious. By the kind of activity and the hostname, I'd say just reject unversially on this one. ISP shouldn't be caring what services are running, and if they do, well, then everything will be closed to them. -- .''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than to fix a system msg29068/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: shuttle disaster
"James Buchanan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Famine victims OK, but nobody has mentioned the people living in > poverty in America. Boost welfare, more education funding, subsidise > pay rises for the lowest paid workers... ooops, America's budget all > gone ;-) > Of course! If we spent that much, people with enough money to have significant amounts of it in taxable stock accounts wouldn't be able to keep it all! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel compile failure
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 07:08:03PM -0800, Torrin wrote:
> I'm having trouble compiling kernel 2.4.20 on my woody system. I'm
> using gcc version 2.95.4
>
> I issue the command . . .
> su -c "make-kpkg kernel_image"
>
> After compiling some files it always ends up with an error like . . .
>
> gcc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 4
> make[1]: *** [init/main.o] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.20'
> make: *** [stamp-build] Error 2
> {standard input}: Assembler messages:
> {standard input}:0: Warning: end of file not at end of a line; newline inserted
> {standard input}:500: Error: no such instruction: `j'
The first thing to check when you get strange inconsistent errors in a
compile is bad hardware, bad memory seems to be a particularly common
cause.
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Re: *.wma
"Sergey A. Ovchar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 18:13:38 +0100 > Johannes Zarl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Are you sure, you have libavcodec0 and w32codecs installed? The > > appropriate codec is in either of them. There is no dependency from > > mplayer to it, so it isn't installed by default. > > Which package contains theese files ? They're not in any official Debian packages, for licensing/non-free/Microsoft reasons. You'll have to search for an unofficial source (google should do the trick). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: shuttle disaster (space elevators)
John Hasler wrote: >Paul E Condon writes: >> It is not hard to compute the tension in a space elevator ribbon. (It >> would be a fair question for a final exam in an undergraduate mechanics >> course.) It depends on position along the ribbon, on the Earth >> parameters (size, rate of rotation, etc. )... Of course, 2Pi*r/24hrs at the CG must be the rate of rotation. In other words it must be in geosynchronous orbit. >In particular there is no reason for there to be any significant tension is >the cable at the base. With proper controls such a cable should just hang >there if severed at or near ground level. A fail-safe design would make >the connection to the bottom anchor the weakest point so that an >over-tension event would not result in a cable fall. The real risk comes >from an impact high up on the cable. Not just impact. The tension at the CG will be incredible-- the integral from r(at CG) to r(at surface) of M(a[gravity]- a[angular])dr. If the elevator should part at the CG, 23,500 miles of material would fall to the East, nearly circumnavigating the globe. If I don't have this quite right, I claim 40 yrs of opportunity to forget integral calc. :) >> ...the mass-per-unit-length (kg/m) that is assumed for the ribbon. > >Which must be tapered, of course. That would be more efficient, but is not *required*. The idea of "ribbons" seems a bad idea. Think of the vibratory forces. Resonances would exist in every section at umpteen harmonics, and don't even think about the odd order heterodynes. [...] I'm surprised no one has mentioned Robert A. Heinlein. He used the idea (space elevators--including construction and installation details) in several short stories and at least one novel, going back to at least the 60's, maybe earlier. This is the guy who, in the late 30's, described the physics and practical application of the nuclear pile. More importantly, he is credited with the invention of the water bed. What a mind. :) -- gt [EMAIL PROTECTED] If someone tells you--- "I have a sense of humor, but that's not funny." ---they don't. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Downgrading to xfree86 3.x
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 08:02:59PM -0600, Jeffrey Taylor wrote: > I have an old VLB video card (ATI Graphics Ultra Pro). It does not > appear to be supported in xfree86 4.x. How do I downgrade to xfree86 > 3.x in woody? apt-get install xserver-mach32 xserver-common-v3 Debian's 3.x and 4.x versions of X can co-exist without problems. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kernel 2.4 problems on K7
I am sure I am not the only one, as I have heard
quite a bit about this
but I am just gonna throw this one out
there...
I have tried several 2.4 kernels, debian stock
2.4.16-k7, 2.4.18-k7 as
well as custom kernels 2.4.16, 2.4.18, 2.4.19 from
kernel.org
If I load my usb (usb-ohci) or alsa sound
(snd-card-ali5451) I get errors
like
hda: { timed out }
hda: DMA Disabled
then it usually begins to tear up my filesystem
spitting out pages of errors.
I have a Presario 906US model pc, AMD Mobile Athlon
XP 1500+
ACPI-compliant system, its an ALi chipset M1535+
(Southbridge)
ATI U1 (Northbridge) I am currently using Ext2, but
I have tried Ext3 as well.
these problems dont seem to happen with the 2.2.20
kernel.. but I would
like to get my sound working as well as my ACPI
features so that I can ditch
the windows XP and I would like Ext3 support.. the
USB is not really an issue
I dont know where to go from here.. its been hell,
and I have found many good
documents, patches, etc.. and still no luck yet.
Additional note, when I compile my own 2.4.x
kernel if I use the K7 arch setting
and the MCE is enabled the kernel wont boot.. now I
have a feeling this is not cpu
damage, but some strange unmapped/incompatible
functions of this Mobile XP cpu.
but again, my main concerns are getting the ACPI
Thermal zone, power management,
sound, and other main essentials working.. I am not
worried about over optimizing at
this point.. if anyone can shed some light on this
please help.. I have compiled many
kernels and so far I gotta boot a different one for
each piece of hardware to work..
Re: twiki installation
Nope I run testing/unstable. If you're scared I guess that makes me certifiable :) - Ryan On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 12:13:06PM -0500, Matt Price wrote: > do you run woody? moin wanted to install a huge number of upgrades, > including (I think) a new gcc... I was scared to do it. > matt > On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 07:36:18PM -0600, Ryan Nowakowski wrote: > > I had some problems setting up twiki for Debian. I switched to moin > > instead. > > > > - Ryan > > > > On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 08:26:23PM -0500, Matt Price wrote: > > > Anyone out there use twiki? how do you do the initial configuration?? > > > (like, setting the webmaster's password, etc) > > > doesn't seem to be indicated in /usr/share/doc/twiki, and I didn't > > > notice it in the debconf setup. > > > > > > thx for the help... > > > matt > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > msg29061/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ogg to mp3 audio (also via 8233a question)
James Hughes wrote: > Since you're talking about audio degradation issues, one thing I've > always wondered is how much and what kind of loss is there (if any) > when unencoding from [.ogg]|[.mp3] to .wav? I would think none. Lossage happens during encoding, not decoding, as long as you're decoding to a sample size and rate that is no worse than the original uncompressed source signal. Craig msg29060/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: shuttle disaster
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 06:14:11PM -0600, DvB wrote: > Of course, this isn't necessarily an easy thing to do in many places > where most of the growth has happened according to current zoning > standards (like the southern US). I'm so glad that Portland realises it's way behind the game when it comes to urban planning. I'd rather be playing catchup with Northern European cities than having Portland become another Los Angeles or Seattle (a Los Angeles victim itself). -- .''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than to fix a system msg29059/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: shuttle disaster
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 11:55:27AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > > Can you imagine a 100 or a 1000 of these things? > > Yes, but why would you need that many? "From now until March 31, you and a friend fly for $39 each way from Portland to Earths orbit on Horizon Airlines..." -- .''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than to fix a system msg29058/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
phoenix hangs on ctrl-u
Hey all: I'm not entirely sure what to do about this problem. Phoenix used to allow me to view the source of a page using control-u. Now whenever I use the shortcut the browser hangs (doesn't allow me to minimize the window, open any menus, etc). I thought maybe it was because I had an incompatible something or other. So I did the fooling thing and apt-get upgraded. The browser /still/ hangs on control-u. Is there an error log somewhere that might give me some clues? Viewing source on HTML pages is an extremely important part of my job...seriously. I don't think they use the same installed code base but mozilla is perfectly happy showing me the source of the page with control-u. Any help would be much appreciated. emma -- Emma Jane Hogbin [[ 416 417 2868 ][ www.xtrinsic.com ]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lm_sensors
* Hugo Graumann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > * On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 12:00:17AM +0100, mess-mate ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 09:42:11 -0700 > > Hugo Graumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > | * On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 02:19:45PM -0500, karrottop ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > | > > > | > I am re-posting this because I was made aware I sent it as a reply to > > | > another post. Sorry about that, so without further adue here is my > > | > intended post now... > > | > > > | > > > | > I am having a great deal of trouble getting lm_sensors to work under > > | > debian. I am pretty sure that I am about 75% on the way to getting this > > | > started but none the less, if someone could give me a bit of a > > | > walk-through to getting things running I would appreciate it. My > > | > intention is mostly to monitor my hardware temp's etc, being that I am > > | > using a water cooled system, and I am a bit uneasy about not knowing the > > | > performance of my system, especially one that is overclocked. If it > > | > matters I am using sid, a soyo motherboard with a via chipset, and > > | > kernel 2.4.20 ( I have built in everything in the i2c portion of > > | > charcter devices ) > > | > > > | > > > | > > > | > -- > > | > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > | > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > | > > > | > > | Got hardware sensors working on a few motherboards here and even > > | took notes on how it was done. Perhaps these notes might be useful to you. > > | > > | Notes on Installing sensor support in a Debian system. > > | > > | 0) For the following, it is assumed that a new > > |2.4.20 kernel was already compiled, installed and > > |working. It is also assumed that the kernel was compiled > > |using the debian kernel build system make-kpkg. The > > |kernel source should be in /usr/src/linux either directly > > |or by a symbolic link. > > | > > | 1) have a working 2.4 series kernel with module support > > |included. Make sure that i2o items are NOT compiled > > |in. Once this kernel is installed and working, the modules > > |are ready to be included. Make sure you are running > > |the kernel to which the modules are to be added. This > > |seems to be the easiest way to make the module version > > |numbers consistent with the kernel version number. > > | > > | 2) obtain the debian packages: i2c-source,lm-sensors, > > | lm-sensors-source, and sensord. Optionally also > > | get other monitors like sensor-sweep-applet, > > | wmsensors or xsensors. The package xsensors is > > | not in woody but getting the source and building > > | it locally using apt-get source works fine. > > | > > | 3) Become root and change to the /usr/src directory. > > |In this directory there will be tar files named > > | i2c.tar.gz and lm-sensors.tar.gz. When these > > | tar files are expanded they write themselves > > | into the /usr/src/modules directory. This > > | directory may already exist if other modules > > | have already been installed in this kernel. > > | > > | 4) Extract the files by "tar zxf i2c.tar.gz" and > > |"tar zxf lm-sensors.tar.gz" > > | > > | 5) cd /usr/src/linux and run the command > > | "make-kpkg modules_image" > > |When the build has completed there will be > > |debian packages in /usr/src named > > | i2c-2.4.19_2.6.5-3+lb.custom.1.1_i386.deb > > |and > > | lm-sensors-2.4.19_2.6.4-3+lb.custom.1.1_i386.deb > > | > > | 6) install these packages with the commands > > | dpkg -i i2c-2.4.19_2.6.5-3+lb.custom.1.1_i386.deb > > | and > > | dpkg -i lm-sensors-2.4.19_2.6.4-3+lb.custom.1.1_i386.deb > > Sorry, this error messages appaers on the install of this i2c package : > > dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of i2c-2.4.20: > > i2c-2.4.20 depends on kernel-image-2.4.20; however: > > Package kernel-image-2.4.20 is not installed. > > dpkg: error processing i2c-2.4.20 (--install): > > dependency problems - leaving unconfigured > > Errors were encountered while processing: > > i2c-2.4.20 > > ?? This kernel is installed ! Compiled and installed by myself. > > (with the old method) > > What has I do other ? > > mess-mate > > If by old method you mean "make bzimage" etc, then I bet that is > why the package wont install. Looks like the i2c package wants to > see a 2.4.20 kernel installed as a Debian package before it is > satisfied. So even though you have a running 2.4.20 kernel, the > Debian package system doesn't know about it. I guess one fix > would be to make a kernel the Debian way with make-kpkg and > then install that kernel package (this is sort of implied in step 0). > After this you have a 2.4.20 kernel and the packaging system knows about > it as well so the dependencies will be correct. > > > > > | > > | 7) As root (as always) run the prog
Re: How to prevent x startup
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Colin Watson wrote: > Frank's quite correct: there's no particular reason why xdm should be > reinstalled on upgrade, and you'll be told about it if for some bizarre > reason this is going to happen. Ah good, thanks for the clearing up what Frank was implying. So if package a package such as x-window-system depends on another package, say xdm, and after installation you remove xdm. Then what happens if dist-upgrade wants to install a newer version of x-window-system that depends on xdm which is not installed? Will xdm not be installed? I understand that apt-get will say that it's going to do so. -- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: squirrelmail, uw-imapd (and ssl)
On Thu, 06 Feb 2003 11:41:35 -0600 "Keith G. Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm surprised. What didn't work? I'm using the stable versions of > courier-imap and squirrelmail and having no discernible problems. Pretty much anything. It would get the lovely "Got 80k+ while allocating only 50 bytes" error when trying to get the folders list. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. |-- Lenny Nero - Strange Days ---+- msg29054/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: sudden sound troubles
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 09:25:29PM -0600, Steve Johnson wrote: > What's your modules.conf look like? # ALSA portion alias char-major-116 snd # OSS/Free portion alias char-major-14 soundcore # ALSA portion alias snd-card-0 snd-card-maestro3 # OSS/Free portion alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/alsa > On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 11:36, James Hughes wrote: > > Hello, > > > > In the last day I've been having trouble with xmms hanging, and I > > can't kill it, not with 'kill -9', nor even by restarting X. Then I > > tried ogg123, with similar results. > > > > There's the following in syslog: > > > > #sudo tail syslog > > Feb 5 12:26:31 jpath modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module > > sound-slot-1 > > Feb 5 12:26:31 jpath modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module > > sound-service-1-0 > > > > > > #/sbin/lsmod > > snd-pcm-oss35040 2 (autoclean) > > snd-mixer-oss 9308 1 (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss] > > prism2_cs 57008 1 > > p80211 12280 1 [prism2_cs] > > snd-card-maestro3 12404 3 > > snd-pcm49664 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-card-maestro3] > > snd-timer 10760 0 [snd-pcm] > > snd-ac97-codec 23120 0 [snd-card-maestro3] > > snd25612 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss > > snd-card-maestro3 snd-pcm snd-timer snd-ac97-codec] > > soundcore 3620 3 [snd] > > ds 6632 2 [prism2_cs] > > i82365 22620 2 > > pcmcia_core41600 0 [prism2_cs ds i82365] > > > > > > .. which looks reasonable to me, and my sound card has been working > > flawlessly for months. I'm going to go back a bit further in syslog to > > see if I can isolate when those modprobe messages started appearing, > > but I was wondering if anybody out there might have some thoughts. > > > > Thanks! > > > > -- > > James Hughes > > -- James Hughes msg29053/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: *.wma
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 18:13:38 +0100 Johannes Zarl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Are you sure, you have libavcodec0 and w32codecs installed? The > appropriate codec is in either of them. There is no dependency from > mplayer to it, so it isn't installed by default. Which package contains theese files ? -- ,''`. Sincerely yours : :' : Sergey A. Ovchar `. `' e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] `- SMS: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS password?
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 08:08:41PM -0700, Andreas J Guelzow wrote: > stan wrote: > > >On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 05:33:40PM -0700, Andreas J. Guelzow wrote: > > > >>On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 17:18, stan wrote: > >> > >>>I've got CUPS installed on my Debian machine from .debs. When I try to go > >>>to the damin section of the web interface, I'm prompted for a username > >>>password pair. > >>> > >>>Where do I look for this config? > >>> > >>/etc/cups/cupsd.conf > >> > > > >Well, I have looked there, but if it's there, I'm overlooking it. > > > >A clue, perhaps? > > > > > > In /etc/cups/cupsd.conf > there is probably a section about Security: one of the options is > SystemGroup > that specifies a special unix group used under certain circumstances for > authorization. That group may be lpadmin, but by default could be sys > system or root. > > There should also be a ... section which > describes the authorization required: Specifically you can restrict the > host from which to access and the AuthType/AuthClass. > AuthType is probably Basic > AuthClass could be Anonymous User Group or System > > If the AuthClass is System than you need to specify the username and > unix password of a user belonging to the Systemgroup specified above. > That makes sense, and also works. Thanks for taking the time to explain this to me. -- "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kernel compile failure
I'm having trouble compiling kernel 2.4.20 on my woody system. I'm
using gcc version 2.95.4
I issue the command . . .
su -c "make-kpkg kernel_image"
After compiling some files it always ends up with an error like . . .
gcc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 4
make[1]: *** [init/main.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.20'
make: *** [stamp-build] Error 2
{standard input}: Assembler messages:
{standard input}:0: Warning: end of file not at end of a line; newline inserted
{standard input}:500: Error: no such instruction: `j'
So I delete init/main.o and I start the compile again and this time
it ends up in a different place but with the same error.
gcc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 4
make[4]: *** [dev.o] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.20/net/core'
make[3]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.20/net/core'
make[2]: *** [_subdir_core] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.20/net'
make[1]: *** [_dir_net] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.20'
make: *** [stamp-build] Error 2
{standard input}: Assembler messages:
{standard input}:0: Warning: end of file not at end of a line; newline inserted
{standard input}:2144: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `dec'
cpp0: output pipe has been closed
So I delete dev.o and I start the compile again and this time
it ends up in a different place but with the same error.
And so on and so on until it finishes and I end up with a deb.
So I install it with dpkg and then try to reboot to the new kernel.
Well as soon as the new kernel starts to load it reboots almost
immediately. The system doesn't stay booting long enough for me to
catch it but the message is something like this.
Linux.
And then it reboots. I believe the rebooting is due to the compiler
crashing all the time. Does anybody else get these kind of errors when
compiling or is it just me?
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Re: CUPS password?
stan wrote: On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 05:33:40PM -0700, Andreas J. Guelzow wrote: On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 17:18, stan wrote: I've got CUPS installed on my Debian machine from .debs. When I try to go to the damin section of the web interface, I'm prompted for a username password pair. Where do I look for this config? /etc/cups/cupsd.conf Well, I have looked there, but if it's there, I'm overlooking it. A clue, perhaps? In /etc/cups/cupsd.conf there is probably a section about Security: one of the options is SystemGroup that specifies a special unix group used under certain circumstances for authorization. That group may be lpadmin, but by default could be sys system or root. There should also be a ... section which describes the authorization required: Specifically you can restrict the host from which to access and the AuthType/AuthClass. AuthType is probably Basic AuthClass could be Anonymous User Group or System If the AuthClass is System than you need to specify the username and unix password of a user belonging to the Systemgroup specified above. Your milage may vary Andreas -- Prof. Dr. Andreas J. Guelzow http://www.math.concordia.ab.ca/aguelzow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lm_sensors
* On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 12:00:17AM +0100, mess-mate ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 09:42:11 -0700 > Hugo Graumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > | * On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 02:19:45PM -0500, karrottop ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > | > > | > I am re-posting this because I was made aware I sent it as a reply to > | > another post. Sorry about that, so without further adue here is my > | > intended post now... > | > > | > > | > I am having a great deal of trouble getting lm_sensors to work under > | > debian. I am pretty sure that I am about 75% on the way to getting this > | > started but none the less, if someone could give me a bit of a > | > walk-through to getting things running I would appreciate it. My > | > intention is mostly to monitor my hardware temp's etc, being that I am > | > using a water cooled system, and I am a bit uneasy about not knowing the > | > performance of my system, especially one that is overclocked. If it > | > matters I am using sid, a soyo motherboard with a via chipset, and > | > kernel 2.4.20 ( I have built in everything in the i2c portion of > | > charcter devices ) > | > > | > > | > > | > -- > | > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > | > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > | > > | > | Got hardware sensors working on a few motherboards here and even > | took notes on how it was done. Perhaps these notes might be useful to you. > | > | Notes on Installing sensor support in a Debian system. > | > | 0) For the following, it is assumed that a new > |2.4.20 kernel was already compiled, installed and > |working. It is also assumed that the kernel was compiled > |using the debian kernel build system make-kpkg. The > |kernel source should be in /usr/src/linux either directly > |or by a symbolic link. > | > | 1) have a working 2.4 series kernel with module support > |included. Make sure that i2o items are NOT compiled > |in. Once this kernel is installed and working, the modules > |are ready to be included. Make sure you are running > |the kernel to which the modules are to be added. This > |seems to be the easiest way to make the module version > |numbers consistent with the kernel version number. > | > | 2) obtain the debian packages: i2c-source,lm-sensors, > | lm-sensors-source, and sensord. Optionally also > | get other monitors like sensor-sweep-applet, > | wmsensors or xsensors. The package xsensors is > | not in woody but getting the source and building > | it locally using apt-get source works fine. > | > | 3) Become root and change to the /usr/src directory. > |In this directory there will be tar files named > | i2c.tar.gz and lm-sensors.tar.gz. When these > | tar files are expanded they write themselves > | into the /usr/src/modules directory. This > | directory may already exist if other modules > | have already been installed in this kernel. > | > | 4) Extract the files by "tar zxf i2c.tar.gz" and > |"tar zxf lm-sensors.tar.gz" > | > | 5) cd /usr/src/linux and run the command > | "make-kpkg modules_image" > |When the build has completed there will be > |debian packages in /usr/src named > | i2c-2.4.19_2.6.5-3+lb.custom.1.1_i386.deb > |and > | lm-sensors-2.4.19_2.6.4-3+lb.custom.1.1_i386.deb > | > | 6) install these packages with the commands > | dpkg -i i2c-2.4.19_2.6.5-3+lb.custom.1.1_i386.deb > | and > | dpkg -i lm-sensors-2.4.19_2.6.4-3+lb.custom.1.1_i386.deb > Sorry, this error messages appaers on the install of this i2c package : > dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of i2c-2.4.20: > i2c-2.4.20 depends on kernel-image-2.4.20; however: > Package kernel-image-2.4.20 is not installed. > dpkg: error processing i2c-2.4.20 (--install): > dependency problems - leaving unconfigured > Errors were encountered while processing: > i2c-2.4.20 > ?? This kernel is installed ! Compiled and installed by myself. > (with the old method) > What has I do other ? > mess-mate If by old method you mean "make bzimage" etc, then I bet that is why the package wont install. Looks like the i2c package wants to see a 2.4.20 kernel installed as a Debian package before it is satisfied. So even though you have a running 2.4.20 kernel, the Debian package system doesn't know about it. I guess one fix would be to make a kernel the Debian way with make-kpkg and then install that kernel package (this is sort of implied in step 0). After this you have a 2.4.20 kernel and the packaging system knows about it as well so the dependencies will be correct. > > | > | 7) As root (as always) run the program sensors-detect. > |This tool sweeps the smbus and determines the devices > |that are on it. It then reports the chip types and > |the relevant modules that need to be loaded to get the > |hardware sensors system working. This program mos
Re: Downgrading to xfree86 3.x
On Thursday 06 February 2003 05:02 pm, Jeffrey Taylor wrote: > I have an old VLB video card (ATI Graphics Ultra Pro). It does not > appear to be supported in xfree86 4.x. How do I downgrade to xfree86 > 3.x in woody? > > TIA, > Jeffrey I use 'dselect' to remove/purge all the xfree86 ver 4 packages. Then use dselect to add the ver 3 packages. Aptitude works also. -- Greg Madden -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ogg to mp3 audio (also via 8233a question)
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 09:22:03AM -0800, Craig Dickson wrote: > Jack Pistachio wrote: > > > Well, I'm actually not sure I need to. I'm making a cd for > > my brother to use on his mp3 capable DVD player. I assumed > > that the player wouldn't be able to handle ogg encoded > > files. Perhaps I'm wrong? > > Most likely you're right. However, one thing you should be aware of is > that transcoding between different lossy encoders (both mp3 and vorbis > are lossy) tends to produce poor results. Lossy compression always > introduces some artifacts in the signal, and lossy encoders are not > designed to deal with artifacts introduced by another encoder. Because > of this, an mp3 file translated from vorbis, or a vorbis file translated > from mp3, will sound noticeably worse than if it had been encoded from > the original uncompressed source. This sort of transcoding is generally > not adviseable, though the result can be tolerable if you expect to be > listening to it in a situation where audio quality is poor anyway (such > as on a cheap stereo, or in a car, or on a walkman). Since you're talking about audio degradation issues, one thing I've always wondered is how much and what kind of loss is there (if any) when unencoding from [.ogg]|[.mp3] to .wav? -- James Hughes msg29046/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Downgrading to xfree86 3.x
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 08:02:59PM -0600, Jeffrey Taylor wrote: > I have an old VLB video card (ATI Graphics Ultra Pro). It does not > appear to be supported in xfree86 4.x. How do I downgrade to xfree86 > 3.x in woody? Looking at the readme (README.ati.gz) for X 4.2, your video card appears to be supported (mach32). If you want to downgrade, just use an xserver that is not xserver-xfree86 (for that card, xserver-mach32). -- Seneca [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Plagiarism Monitor S/W
Sounds like a task for Perl Go to your bookstore and browse through 'Perl Cookbook', published by O'Reilly to get some ideas You might also pose that question to a Perl user group. Someone(s) will have done something close to your requirement -- David -Original Message- From: Abdul Latip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:13 PM To: DeBiAn uSeR LiSt Subject: OT: Plagiarism Monitor S/W Hi: Sorry, this is not so related to Debian. I am just wondering if there exists a script/ software that compares similarities between two files. It should be more sophisticated than "comm" and "diff". Someone would like to use that script for screening student assignments. Prefarable, if it could also detect "using more than 72 chars/line" and the usage of "^M" in text files. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS password?
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 07:18:13PM -0500, stan wrote: > I've got CUPS installed on my Debian machine from .debs. When I try to go > to the damin section of the web interface, I'm prompted for a username > password pair. > > Where do I look for this config? > If you don't want to login as root, add yourself to group lpadmin, and login using your username and password. -- Jerome msg29043/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Printer Problems
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 09:58:31AM -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: This latter is the one I use with my Epson 860 without having errors you report. > *PPD-Adobe: "4.3" > *%PPD file for CUPS/GIMP-print. > *%Copyright 1993-2001 by Easy Software Products, All Rights Reserved. > *%This PPD file may be freely used and distributed under the terms of > *%the GNU GPL. > *FormatVersion: "4.3" > *FileVersion: "4.2.2-pre2" > *LanguageVersion: English > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1 > *PCFileName: "escp2-860.ppd" > *Manufacturer:"EPSON" > *Product: "(GIMP-print v4.2.2-pre2)" > *ModelName: "escp2-860" > *ShortNickName: "EPSON Stylus Color 860" > *NickName: "EPSON Stylus Color 860, CUPS+GIMP-print v4.2.2-pre2" > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 550" > *LanguageLevel: "2" > *ColorDevice: True > *DefaultColorSpace: RGB *FileSystem:False *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90 *TTRasterizer: Type42 *cupsVersion: 1.1 *cupsModelNumber: "16" *cupsManualCopies: True *cupsFilter:"application/vnd.cups-raster 100 rastertoprinter" *cupsFilter:"application/vnd.cups-command 33 commandtoepson" *OpenUI *PageSize: PickOne *OrderDependency: 10 AnySetup *PageSize *DefaultPageSize: Letter etc. The error you reported in prior email thread is a typical ghostscript error that results if you try to display a nonpostscript file. It seems that the cups filter is not converting your text file to postscript before passing it to gs-esp. That sound like a mime definition problem, but we already checked the cups mime definitions. Just on a lark, do you get the same error with "lpr printtest" and "lpr -p printtest"? -- Jerome msg29042/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Downgrading to xfree86 3.x
I have an old VLB video card (ATI Graphics Ultra Pro). It does not appear to be supported in xfree86 4.x. How do I downgrade to xfree86 3.x in woody? TIA, Jeffrey -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: partitioning hard drive & /usr is already 96% full
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 07:41:55AM -0900, Andy wrote: > > Question for the list: > What is the lists advice in managing my /usr partition > so it does not completetly fill up and cause problems in the future? Make it 2 GB as a minimum; that you'll need more than 4 GB is unlikely for quite some time. But keep in mind that both 2 and 4 GB can get too small: My /usr partition is 4.3G and holds 2.0G, but besides I'm using an /opt partition to store games, staroffice and such. That makes for another 5.5G. For /, I've never needed more than 100 MB. You can do with 60M for it, if you want a tight setup. Plan to have your partitions no more than about 50% used, except when you have spare disks at hand or no choice. In case you need to copy some partition over to another, this will be very helpful, and partitions tend to fill up to more than 50% automagically anyway. In case you're low on disc space, try to keep those partitions small that will contain mostly static data, like /usr and /, to the benefit of others. Use 64M for /tmp at least, better 128. What you need for /var depends on the services using it --- make it at least 256M when you've no special needs. And don't forget to setup sufficient swap space :) GH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SCSI messages
Hi, dmesg prints out, amongst others, a number of messages like that, as I just discover: sym53c1010-33-0-<0,0>: ordered tag forced. This seems to concern /dev/sda, which is an IBM DCAS-34330. What does the system want to tell me with these messages? Is there some problem with command queueing for this device? GH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS password?
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 05:33:40PM -0700, Andreas J. Guelzow wrote: > On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 17:18, stan wrote: > > I've got CUPS installed on my Debian machine from .debs. When I try to go > > to the damin section of the web interface, I'm prompted for a username > > password pair. > > > > Where do I look for this config? > > /etc/cups/cupsd.conf Well, I have looked there, but if it's there, I'm overlooking it. A clue, perhaps? -- "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: shuttle disaster (space elevators)
Paul E Condon writes: > It is not hard to compute the tension in a space elevator ribbon. (It > would be a fair question for a final exam in an undergraduate mechanics > course.) It depends on position along the ribbon, on the Earth > parameters (size, rate of rotation, etc. )... In particular there is no reason for there to be any significant tension is the cable at the base. With proper controls such a cable should just hang there if severed at or near ground level. A fail-safe design would make the connection to the bottom anchor the weakest point so that an over-tension event would not result in a cable fall. The real risk comes from an impact high up on the cable. > ...the mass-per-unit-length (kg/m) that is assumed for the ribbon. Which must be tapered, of course. > The last time I checked, there was not a material having a suitable > combintation of kg/m and tensile strength. Theoretically any material will work, but the dimensions get out of hand when using wet spaghetti. In practice carbon nanotubes are strong enough. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: Plagiarism Monitor S/W
Hi: Sorry, this is not so related to Debian. I am just wondering if there exists a script/ software that compares similarities between two files. It should be more sophisticated than "comm" and "diff". Someone would like to use that script for screening student assignments. Prefarable, if it could also detect "using more than 72 chars/line" and the usage of "^M" in text files. thank you, -- Abdul Latip -- Angkasa Internet Junior Staff -- ANGIN.com http://people.WebIndonesia.com/dullatip/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: shuttle disaster
Famine victims OK, but nobody has mentioned the people living in poverty in America. Boost welfare, more education funding, subsidise pay rises for the lowest paid workers... ooops, America's budget all gone ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS password?
On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 17:18, stan wrote: > I've got CUPS installed on my Debian machine from .debs. When I try to go > to the damin section of the web interface, I'm prompted for a username > password pair. > > Where do I look for this config? /etc/cups/cupsd.conf Andreas -- Andreas J. Guelzow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Taliesin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: CUPS password?
stan wrote: I've got CUPS installed on my Debian machine from .debs. When I try to go to the damin section of the web interface, I'm prompted for a username password pair. Where do I look for this config? Your root username/password should do the trick. I'm not sure what it would take to develop finer-grained control over access. Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
autopoint?
I'm trying to build Ardour, I've downlaoded the source from CVS. It seemd to need something called autopoint. Where can I get this for Debian? -- "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to prevent x startup
Bill Moseley writes: > I assume because x-window-system depends on xdm? x-window-system is a dummy package which serves no purpose once the packages it depends on are installed. Remove it. > Or if xdm was updated in a apt-get dist-upgrade? Apt won't reinstall it if it has been removed. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: shuttle disaster (space elevators)
Joyce, Matthew wrote: -Original Message- From: Paul E Condon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 7 February 2003 9:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: shuttle disaster (space elevators) Ray wrote: On Thursday 06 February 2003 11:55, John Hasler wrote: Mike M writes: Can you imagine a 100 or a 1000 of these things? Yes, but why would you need that many? how many different airports do we have now? seems like 1000 would be normal to low. Would it be possible to use them to increase the length of a day? The question makes no sense. yes it would be possible to slow the rotation of the earth, but it would take a bit of work to do using these before it became noteable (unless you have your days down to 12 digits) What would happen when the ribbon broke and came fluttering back to the planet's surface? It would break at the weakest point which would be at the bottom. The ribbon would not be under tension so it would pretty much just hang there waiting to be repaired. it actually depends on how its done, most likely the tension which it would have would pull it away from earth (atleast the part still attached to the far end) and if it broke off high enough, then yes, there would be a line of ribbon that comes down that could cause problems. one of the many questions i can't answer is Why is this thead still going? and why on Debian User? It is not hard to compute the tension in a space elevator ribbon. (It would be a fair question for a final exam in an undergraduate mechanics course.) It depends on position along the ribbon, on the Earth parameters (size, rate of rotation, etc. ) and on the mass-per-unit-length (kg/m) that is assumed for the ribbon. The ribbon must be at least thick enough to be strong enough to keep from breaking under its own self-generated tension. The last time I checked, there was not a material having a suitable combintation of kg/m and tensile strength. There is an account of a space elevator tether breaking in the trilogy Red Mar, Green Mars, Blue Mars. It did not hang there though, it fell back to the planet with catastrophic results. I hope no one thought I was saying tt would just hang there! The whole thing is under tension, like a steel cable in the construction crane. If the tension is too great, the cable breaks. Neither part of the cable is, itself, a balanced 'space elevator'. Both will experience enormous whip lash. But there will be other failure modes for this 'invention' as well. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS password?
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 07:18:13PM -0500, stan wrote: > I've got CUPS installed on my Debian machine from .debs. When I try to go > to the damin section of the web interface, I'm prompted for a username > password pair. > > Where do I look for this config? It's root and root password Stephen Rüger -- > Almost any animal is capable learning a stimulus/response association, > given enough repetition. Experimental observation suggests that this isn't true if double-clicking is involved. - Lionel, Malcolm Ray, asr. msg29029/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: shuttle disaster
Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 11:41:19AM -0600, DvB wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > On Mon, 3 Feb 2003 22:36:45 +, > > > Pigeon wrote: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > Personally, I think that the space programme in its current > > > > state of development is frequently trying to run before it can > > > > walk, and consumes money which would be better spent on famine > > > > relief. > > > > > > That's one way to look at it. Agreed, famine victims should have > > > priority. But a country which already spends a hundred billion > > > dollars for its defense ought to spend a few more tens of billion > > > dollars for a space program that could save the planet when the > > > next Big One comes along > > > > Wanna "save the planet"? Why not spend some money on finding a way to > > reduce our dependence on fossil fuels? I know it would be exciting to be > > able to experience escaping to Mars with a gas mask over your face, but > > some of us like adventure a little less than that. > > I can think of a few off the top of my head: I was thinking more along the lines of improving access to alternative transportation (I.e. rail, bus, bicycle, walking) which can be done _now_ with _current technology_ and would have the added benefit of saving individuals money since people who don't wish to deal with the nightmare of driving and/or the enormous expense and hassle of owning a car can make a one time expenditure of $100 for a bike, plus about $40/month (the approximate cost of a monthly pass for most decent transit systems in the US) and be quite happy, healthy and wealthy. Meanwhile, those who do like spending time sitting by themselves in a car (can't imagine why) could still spend their money on them if they want. Of course, this isn't necessarily an easy thing to do in many places where most of the growth has happened according to current zoning standards (like the southern US). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ardour debs?
I discoverd Ardour today, courtesy of a Slashdot post. Looks like just what I need. Anyone have a line on debs for it? -- "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CUPS password?
I've got CUPS installed on my Debian machine from .debs. When I try to go to the damin section of the web interface, I'm prompted for a username password pair. Where do I look for this config? -- "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Help with ALSA setup
Hi all, I may have made a mistake in choosing ALSA sound instead of OSS on my woody box... I just installed the first thing that said "sound drivers" in dselect and I heard later that ALSA has a reputation for being, er, non-trivial to get working... But hey: in for a penny, in for a pound... right? So here goes: I installed alsa-base 0.9+0beta12, alsa-modules 0.9+0beta10, and alsa-utils 0.5.10-1... This required me to upgrade to kernel 2.4.16-686. Done (and verified with uname that that is the currently booted kernel). I established that my card (SBLive! 5.1) is called emu10k1, and told ALSA to use that module... lsmod has this to say: snd-card-emu10k11952 0 (unused) snd-emu10k147200 0 [snd-card-emu10k1] snd-pcm46176 0 [snd-emu10k1] snd-timer 9056 0 [snd-pcm] snd-rawmidi11456 0 [snd-emu10k1] snd-hwdep 3456 0 [snd-emu10k1] snd-util-mem1184 0 [snd-emu10k1] snd-ac97-codec 22848 0 [snd-emu10k1] snd-seq-device 3744 0 [snd-card-emu10k1 snd-rawmidi] snd23336 0 [snd-card-emu10k1 snd-emu10k1 snd-pcm snd-timer snd-rawmidi snd-hwdep snd-util-mem snd-ac97-codec snd-seq-device] soundcore 3556 2 [snd] (Including only the results that look (to my untrained eye) relevant.) Now when I run alsaconf, it doesn't detect my card; so I choose SB Live off the list, hit okay, hit enter a few times to accept the identifier CARD_0, the max. dac 128, max. adc 64... Then it says: OK, 1 card(s) configured. will prepare the card for playing now. Now I'll run '/etc/init.d/alsa start', then I'll use 'amixer'... Then we get this response: Loading driver: Starting ALSA sound driver (version 0.9.0beta10): emu10k1. Restoring ALSA mixer settings...done. Setting the PCM volume to 100% and the Master output volume to 50% amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such file or directory Could not initialize the mixer, the card was probably not detected correctly. And every time gdm starts, it gives me a sound-related error, umm... "could not open /dev/pcm" (I *think* that's what it says) And, (obviously?) any sound-related apps don't make any sound. So... can anybody tell me what I missed? or what I should try next? Many thanks, Chris msg29025/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: How to prevent x startup
>>> David Turetsky wrote: I finally have a partially working x configuration, but clearly my keyboard is not being properly recognized, and my mouse is not being recognized at all. I would like to stay at the command line prompt to fix the config files, but my system automatically starts up gdm How do I abort the startup of x? >>> Kent West At the LILO: prompt, enter "linux single". If by "keyboard is not being properly recognized" you mean the keys produce the wrong characters, experiment at this point before pressing to figure out which keys you need to press to type in your root password; you'll be asked for it later. This'll drop you into a single-user text mode, at which time you can prevent gdm from starting on future boot-ups (see recent mailing list archives) and/or fix your keyboard/mouse issues. >>> David Turetsky YES!!! Thank you. Now I can go on to experiment with corrections to my XF86Config file The keyboard is recognized fine at the command line, but with an apparent error in XF86Config, keyboard functionality is highly distorted in gdm in XF86Config 'Option "XkbModel" "microsoft"' appears. Although I have a Microsoft Natural keyboard, for which this setting is specified, it may have been tailored to Dell's specs, so I think I will try 'pc105' and see what unfolds If I had not had such a misspent youth, I might have remembered 'linux single,' but then . . . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LTSP & TFTP on Woody
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can't really help with the entry in /etc/inetd.conf since I use
/etc/xinetd.conf. Here are my entries for LTSP in xinetd.conf:
service bootps
{
socket_type =3D dgram
protocol=3D udp
wait=3D yes
user=3D root
server =3D /usr/sbin/bootpd
server_args =3D -i -t 120
}
service tftp
{
socket_type =3D dgram
protocol=3D udp
wait=3D yes
user=3D root
server =3D /usr/sbin/in.tftpd
server_args =3D -s /tftpboot
disable =3D no
}
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Yes that helped. TFTP is not running properly. the DHCP lines show in
syslog & the fact that it can't find tftp is also shown.
Sadly xinet looks very different from inet so I'll have to follow up that.
Many thanks for your help
Steve
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Re: How to prevent x startup
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 03:16:16PM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: > On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Frank Gevaerts wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 02:33:57PM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: > > > You can also probably remove the xdm package, but again I think it might > > > also get reinstalled on update. > > > > Why would it ? > > Is that a rhetorical question? > > I assume because x-window-system depends on xdm? So if you removed xdm then x-window-system (which is just a metapackage) would also be removed. (Unless you're using --force-depends, but don't do that unless you're already a guru.) > Or if xdm was updated in a apt-get dist-upgrade? That would only happen if something you already have installed suddenly starts depending on it when it didn't beforehand, which is unlikely. Frank's quite correct: there's no particular reason why xdm should be reinstalled on upgrade, and you'll be told about it if for some bizarre reason this is going to happen. -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Non-Debian Programs w/out Apt -- what effect?
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 01:20:34PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > And, while I'm on it -- once a program is packaged (like Open Office) and is > in unstable, is there any general rule of thumb for how long it takes to go > to testing and finally to stable? -> testing: once all its dependencies are in testing, once it builds on all architectures and once a single version of the package has spent at least 10 days (generally, there are exceptions) in unstable without release-critical bugs being filed. See http://www.debian.org/devel/testing for the details. -> stable: when a new Debian release happens, full stop. There's no easy rule of thumb to give you, because it depends completely on how releasable the package is in unstable, and on how releasable all its dependencies are. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How to prevent x startup
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote: > >My keyboard is dysfunctional under x so any remedy must be to trap >the system at the command line before x windows starts. How can I do >this? Oh, sorry, I missed that point. Kent West's response to boot into single user mode would be the way to go. -- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to prevent x startup
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Frank Gevaerts wrote: > On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 02:33:57PM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: > > You can also probably remove the xdm package, but again I think it might > > also get reinstalled on update. > > Why would it ? Is that a rhetorical question? I assume because x-window-system depends on xdm? Or if xdm was updated in a apt-get dist-upgrade? -- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lm_sensors
Hi, On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 09:42:11 -0700 Hugo Graumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | * On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 02:19:45PM -0500, karrottop ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: | > | > I am re-posting this because I was made aware I sent it as a reply to | > another post. Sorry about that, so without further adue here is my | > intended post now... | > | > | > I am having a great deal of trouble getting lm_sensors to work under | > debian. I am pretty sure that I am about 75% on the way to getting this | > started but none the less, if someone could give me a bit of a | > walk-through to getting things running I would appreciate it. My | > intention is mostly to monitor my hardware temp's etc, being that I am | > using a water cooled system, and I am a bit uneasy about not knowing the | > performance of my system, especially one that is overclocked. If it | > matters I am using sid, a soyo motherboard with a via chipset, and | > kernel 2.4.20 ( I have built in everything in the i2c portion of | > charcter devices ) | > | > | > | > -- | > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > | | Got hardware sensors working on a few motherboards here and even | took notes on how it was done. Perhaps these notes might be useful to you. | | Notes on Installing sensor support in a Debian system. | | 0) For the following, it is assumed that a new |2.4.20 kernel was already compiled, installed and |working. It is also assumed that the kernel was compiled |using the debian kernel build system make-kpkg. The |kernel source should be in /usr/src/linux either directly |or by a symbolic link. | | 1) have a working 2.4 series kernel with module support |included. Make sure that i2o items are NOT compiled |in. Once this kernel is installed and working, the modules |are ready to be included. Make sure you are running |the kernel to which the modules are to be added. This |seems to be the easiest way to make the module version |numbers consistent with the kernel version number. | | 2) obtain the debian packages: i2c-source,lm-sensors, | lm-sensors-source, and sensord. Optionally also | get other monitors like sensor-sweep-applet, | wmsensors or xsensors. The package xsensors is | not in woody but getting the source and building | it locally using apt-get source works fine. | | 3) Become root and change to the /usr/src directory. |In this directory there will be tar files named | i2c.tar.gz and lm-sensors.tar.gz. When these | tar files are expanded they write themselves | into the /usr/src/modules directory. This | directory may already exist if other modules | have already been installed in this kernel. | | 4) Extract the files by "tar zxf i2c.tar.gz" and |"tar zxf lm-sensors.tar.gz" | | 5) cd /usr/src/linux and run the command | "make-kpkg modules_image" |When the build has completed there will be |debian packages in /usr/src named | i2c-2.4.19_2.6.5-3+lb.custom.1.1_i386.deb |and | lm-sensors-2.4.19_2.6.4-3+lb.custom.1.1_i386.deb | | 6) install these packages with the commands | dpkg -i i2c-2.4.19_2.6.5-3+lb.custom.1.1_i386.deb | and | dpkg -i lm-sensors-2.4.19_2.6.4-3+lb.custom.1.1_i386.deb Sorry, this error messages appaers on the install of this i2c package : dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of i2c-2.4.20: i2c-2.4.20 depends on kernel-image-2.4.20; however: Package kernel-image-2.4.20 is not installed. dpkg: error processing i2c-2.4.20 (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: i2c-2.4.20 ?? This kernel is installed ! Compiled and installed by myself. (with the old method) What has I do other ? mess-mate | | 7) As root (as always) run the program sensors-detect. |This tool sweeps the smbus and determines the devices |that are on it. It then reports the chip types and |the relevant modules that need to be loaded to get the |hardware sensors system working. This program mostly |works but does not always work. See the last step for |suggestions if the modules were detected incorrectly. | | 8) Cut and paste the results from sensors-detect into |the relevant files as it requests. For one motherboard |as an example, |the lines: | # I2C adapter drivers | i2c-viapro | # I2C chip drivers | w83781d | have to be pasted into the file /etc/modules. | Then the command update-modules has to be run. | Then paste the lines | # I2C module options | alias char-major-89 i2c-dev | into the file /etc/modutils/local | | Then run the command /etc/init.d/modutils | | 9) After these steps are completed, the required |modules will be loaded. This can be checked by |the output of the lsmod command. The output for |this example is | Module Size Used byTainted: P | w
RE: How to prevent x startup
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote: I finally have a partially working x configuration, but clearly my keyboard is not being properly recognized, and my mouse is not being recognized at all. I would like to stay at the command line prompt to fix the config files, but my system automatically starts up gdm How do I abort the startup of x? >>> Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Look at the archives of a few days ago ;). For example, if xdm is starting up then this is what I did: # update-rc.d -f xdm remove The problem with that is when you update X (apt-get dist-upgrade, for example) again it will probably get reinstalled. You can also probably remove the xdm package, but again I think it might also get reinstalled on update. >>> David Turetsky My keyboard is dysfunctional under x so any remedy must be to trap the system at the command line before x windows starts. How can I do this? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to prevent x startup
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 02:33:57PM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: > You can also probably remove the xdm package, but again I think it might > also get reinstalled on update. Why would it ? Frank > -- > Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How to prevent x startup
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 03:08:11 -0500, David Turetsky wrote: [...] but my system automatically starts up gdm How do I abort the startup of x? >>> Julián Hernández Gómez: update-rc.d -f gdm remove >>> David Turetsky: Yes, but how do I get in to do that? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Highlighted in X, is there a buffer ?
Hi, * Bill Moseley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-02-06 02:29]: >- double-click a URL in some text in xterm >- move to mozilla >- click in the Location box >- move hand keyboard to type ^U to clear >- move hand back >- middle click to paste > >I'm sure someone will point out an easier way. - double-click a URL in some text in xterm - middle click to paste Thorsten -- You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who does it or who says it. - Malcolm X msg29014/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How to prevent x startup
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, David Turetsky wrote: > I finally have a partially working x configuration, but clearly my > keyboard is not being > > properly recognized, and my mouse is not being recognized at all. I > would like to stay > > at the command line prompt to fix the config files, but my system > automatically > > starts up gdm > > > > How do I abort the startup of x? Look at the archives of a few days ago ;). For example, if xdm is starting up then this is what I did: # update-rc.d -f xdm remove The problem with that is when you update X (apt-get dist-upgrade, for example) again it will probably get reinstalled. You can also probably remove the xdm package, but again I think it might also get reinstalled on update. -- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to prevent x startup
David Turetsky wrote: I finally have a partially working x configuration, but clearly my keyboard is not being properly recognized, and my mouse is not being recognized at all. I would like to stay at the command line prompt to fix the config files, but my system automatically starts up gdm How do I abort the startup of x? At the LILO: prompt, enter "linux single". If by "keyboard is not being properly recognized" you mean the keys produce the wrong characters, experiment at this point before pressing to figure out which keys you need to press to type in your root password; you'll be asked for it later. This'll drop you into a single-user text mode, at which time you can prevent gdm from starting on future boot-ups (see recent mailing list archives) and/or fix your keyboard/mouse issues. Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: shuttle disaster (space elevators)
Ray wrote: On Thursday 06 February 2003 11:55, John Hasler wrote: Mike M writes: Can you imagine a 100 or a 1000 of these things? Yes, but why would you need that many? how many different airports do we have now? seems like 1000 would be normal to low. Would it be possible to use them to increase the length of a day? The question makes no sense. yes it would be possible to slow the rotation of the earth, but it would take a bit of work to do using these before it became noteable (unless you have your days down to 12 digits) What would happen when the ribbon broke and came fluttering back to the planet's surface? It would break at the weakest point which would be at the bottom. The ribbon would not be under tension so it would pretty much just hang there waiting to be repaired. it actually depends on how its done, most likely the tension which it would have would pull it away from earth (atleast the part still attached to the far end) and if it broke off high enough, then yes, there would be a line of ribbon that comes down that could cause problems. one of the many questions i can't answer is Why is this thead still going? and why on Debian User? It is not hard to compute the tension in a space elevator ribbon. (It would be a fair question for a final exam in an undergraduate mechanics course.) It depends on position along the ribbon, on the Earth parameters (size, rate of rotation, etc. ) and on the mass-per-unit-length (kg/m) that is assumed for the ribbon. The ribbon must be at least thick enough to be strong enough to keep from breaking under its own self-generated tension. The last time I checked, there was not a material having a suitable combintation of kg/m and tensile strength. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Rescuing an old RISC6000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes, Thursday, February 06, 2003 3:00 AM > > At office I'm trying to "rescue" an old IBM risc 6000 - > 7012/320 workstation doomed to elimination. > > Is there anyone in this list able to tell me if I can install > debian ppc on it and - booting from diskette - what > architecture chrp, prep, what else? > > Thanks Vittorio First place to look: http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/ This page has the list of known good machines: http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/inst/install I don't know the numbering system you used, so I can't entirely tell whether your machine is on the list or not, but if it is not, I would suggest you give it a try, regardless. Yes, a pair of boot floppies, or a single CD, should work, if anything will. HTH -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Building an IMAP server
Hans Wilmer said: > Well, I'd like to use LDAP to have a global address book for users, as a > first step. If I only could get it to work, LDAP could be used to > authenticate mail-users. > > But lacking something else, I would set up users with adduser, though not > create home directories and have /bin/false as their shell. This would > result in plain text authentication, which is not exactly > secure. use IMAPS then.(IMAP over ssl). sslwrap can provide this functionality to any IMAP server. I personally prefer plain text auth, makes things simplier, but of course that means using some sort of lower layer encryption like SSL or VPN to secure the link. > Does SASL use LDAP? Openldap can use sasl(not required, I build my openldap debs w/o sasl), but it currently uses the "older" sasl, which is different from the one included with cyrus 2. > The server will need some RAID setup to have the data mirrored, either > software RAID or hardware RAID. Unfortunately, it will have IDE discs to > provide sufficent storage capacity at reasonable costs. My idea is to > eventually use a fast SCSI disk to put the more actively used mail folders > on it and to create an archives.* hierarchy on the IDE > disc. Users will be forced to move their older mail to their folders under > archives.* by setting quotas accordingly. Thanks to cyrus, this can be set > up transparently. only drawback is cyrus has no quota notification so you need to write some sort of script if you want to be notified. squirrelmail has a quota plugin which works with cyrus, it shows a % as well as MB/kb used/avail on the left frame of the app. I wrote a really ugly script last year to provide this, it ran daily, I think if the user exceeded 80% of their quota(200MB) they would get emailed once a week, if they reached 95% they would get emailed daily. it worked well, the script is so ugly I don't want to share it though :) not even sure I still have it, could probably make it in perl in 1/10th the amount of code it took me to do it in bash. I gave myself 75% less storage then the rest of the users to set an example for not storing crap on the mail servers. When I initially implimented the quota system some users had more then 700MB of mail. Most were happy to delete enough(or move it) so they could get under the 200MB limit. and of course any other mail clients that could detect IMAP quota worked too, though ATM I'm not aware of any off the top of my head that support this. nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.4.18 netfilter NAT problem
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 10:50:24AM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: > The server is a smal woody box with kernel 2.4.18 and an iptables > configuration for firewall and NATting the other two home computers to > access the net thru my ADSL connection. > > The problem is that a natted connection hangs after some data has been > transmitted: if I ssh to an external host from the server, the session > works fine for hours; if I ssh to an external host from a box behind the > server, the connection hangs after I performed a few operations. I've solved the issue and I'm replying to this mail to add the solution to the list archives. The problem was solved lowering the MTU in PPPOE from the default value to 1440. My ISP probably changed some setting while I was away. Bye, Enrico -- GPG key: 1024D/797EBFAB 2000-12-05 Enrico Zini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spaces in filenames
Sheldon Lee-Wen wrote: Hi, I'm trying to write a script where I can get the names of files in a directory. Normally this is easy, like this: for doc in `ls /var/www/htlml/files` do echo $i done However, some of the files have spaces in the names, like "My File.html" How do I get $doc to have the correct file name? Thanks Sheldon. for doc in /var/www/htlml/files/*; do echo "$doc" done -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to prevent x startup
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 03:08:11 -0500, David Turetsky wrote: [...] > but my system automatically starts up gdm > >How do I abort the startup of x? update-rc.d -f gdm remove HTH Julián Hernández Gómez -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Re: shuttle disaster
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 10:02:09AM -0800, Paul E Condon wrote: > Hal Vaughan wrote: Alchemists had three generally accepted > goals: the transformation of base metals into gold, the > discovery of a universal solvent, and the discovery of 'the > elixir of life' . Like scientists today, they looked to the > sovereign (the government of the time) for funding for their > research. In their search for funds, they would let the > sovereign believe that there was some possibility that their > research would yield practical results, such as changing real > lead into real gold. They did not find an exlixir of life. > They did not find the universal solvent. They did not change > real lead into real gold. They lost their funding. > > Is there a parallel to alchemy in the modern world? aids research, and cancer research, to name a few. the moment anybody thinks they've got a cure, they'll disappear so their bosses will be able to keep the house in the hamptons. too big a business, by now, to be shut down by actual success. -- I use Debian/GNU Linux version 3.0; Linux server 2.4.20-k6 #1 Mon Jan 13 23:49:14 EST 2003 i586 unknown DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #115 from Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : Wondering WHAT'S TAKING UP SPACE ON YOUR SYSTEM? You can get a good idea of system space utilization with the incantation: $ du -s * | sort -nr | cat -n ...which will rank all files and directories in the current directory by space utilization. Pipe to pager, file, or 'head' if it scrolls off screen. Descend through larger trees for more details. Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to prevent x startup
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 03:08:11PM -0500, David Turetsky wrote: > I finally have a partially working x configuration, but clearly my > keyboard is not being > > properly recognized, and my mouse is not being recognized at all. I > would like to stay > > at the command line prompt to fix the config files, but my system > automatically > > starts up gdm > > How do I abort the startup of x? well, you can force X to quite via "ctl-alt-backspace" but if you're running a display manager, that'll just return you to your graphical login. try "ctl-alt-f1" and you'll be back at your console. (your X display will still be at "ctl-alt-f7" if you want to get back to it.) then you can tinker from there. to see how to keep your display manager from taking over, see a recent debian-user thread "Re: give me the command line - REPHRASED". -- I use Debian/GNU Linux version 3.0; Linux server 2.4.20-k6 #1 Mon Jan 13 23:49:14 EST 2003 i586 unknown DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #19 from Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and Will Trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : How do you determine WHICH NETWORK SERVICES ARE OPEN (active)? Try "netstat -a | grep LISTEN". To see numeric values (instead of the common names for services using a particular port) then try "netstat -na" instead. For more info, look at "man netstat". Also try "lsof -i" as root. "man lsof" for details. Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems downloading Knoppix
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 17:39:34 -0500, Levi Waldron wrote: > > On February 4, 2003 08:13 am, bob parker wrote: > > Well I just completed downloading Knoppix using my steam > > powered dial up connection. > > > > I started on 27 January. Wow, that's fast. I need a little under a month to download a 700 MB cd image. > That's such a sad story, if you have a hard time fixing the > download let me know and I'll mail a KNOPPIX cd to you. -Levi So does anybody know of a stable Knoppix download area (one that's not updated too frequently)? All of the sites I've checked out appear to have a new release more than once a month (or at the other extreme a fairly out-of-date release). Not long ago I tried to download Knoppix and was a hundred or so MB's through when I started getting connect errors on my download manager. When I browsed the site, I found that the Knoppix image name had changed (a new release)! In frustration I decided to download Redhat 8.0. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: samba plus nfs, or only samba - 3 pcs
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 10:06:19PM -0500, Jason M. Harvey wrote: > i have my debian box acting as a server and a gateway for my lan. i had > a "multi-booting" pc on the lan, which i just upgraded the hardware on. > this will be my son's windoze box. right now i am running samba between > the two. now i can use his old box as a debian workstation. i am > thinking of running nfs between the server and workstation, but will > still need samba for the windoze box. > > any suggestions on whether i should ran both samba and nfs, or should i > stick with samba alone since i'm already using it? performance? Use NFS, it will be faster and will work better (little things like symlinks don't work with smbfs). Just make sure that your UIDs are the same on both machines (not an issue if you use NIS or LDAP or some such for authentication). It's possible that you could end up with file locking issues, but it doesn't sound like you're likely to be using the same files from more than one place at a time. In the future, smbfs (or rather cifs) may be a little more practical for UNIX<->UNIX connections, since extensions for better UNIX support are being implemented in both Samba's and the kernel's development branches. That might make life easier, especially in places where the relatively weak security of NFS is an issue. -- Michael Heironimus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Building an IMAP server
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 05:34:16PM -0800, nate wrote: > > What's the better way to go when building a new server? Should I start > > with 2.x or stay at 1.5? > > If it were me, I would use 1.5. See my other posts with the maintainer > of the cyrus 2 packages for debian for why. It really depends on your > requirements. cyrus 1.5 is VERY VERY old and does not have near the > feature set that cyrus 2 has(e.g. sieve filtering for server-side > filtering). But the flip side, is it is "tried and true". As far as I've seen yet, cyrus 1.5 will fullfill the current requirements exceptionally well :) By making use of ACLs, I'll even be able to get around the need of server-side filtering. What bothers me is having to upgrade to 2.x at some time. Upgrading may be either so difficult that it is better to start with 2.x from the very beginning, or it may be no problem at all. I just don't know. However, since 1.5 comes with Woody, I suppose it to make the least problems, if any at all. Once you get a bit into it, it's fairly easy to setup and to use. It has good performance and offers some features that will be actually very useful. Such a thing that flawlessly works, more or less just out of the box without any hassles, is what I want. (In fact, to have things that work is one of the reasons to use Debian distributions, thanks to all the developers and package maintainers!) > > But how do users authenticate when they're not local users? I'm > > If you do use LDAP, and you use libnss-ldap(to lookup account info > in the LDAP database for stuff like finger, ssh, etc) you cannot > use cyrus 2.x. Well, I'd like to use LDAP to have a global address book for users, as a first step. If I only could get it to work, LDAP could be used to authenticate mail-users. But lacking something else, I would set up users with adduser, though not create home directories and have /bin/false as their shell. This would result in plain text authentication, which is not exactly secure. > There's a library conflict w/sasl which totally hoses the > system. Which is one reason why I won't be using cyrus 2 anytime > soon. I'd expect this issue to be eventually resolved perhaps in the > comming year or 2, especially as more users start to use this new > sasl library, LDAP authentication is becomming more common. Does SASL use LDAP? > > Hm, courier is fairly easy to setup, but it's slow on larger > > mailboxes. It's ok with only a few users, but nonetheless you'll > > probably not be happy with it on larger mailboxes. > > thats good to know, I haven't tried it myself, I migrated my last > company from UW IMAP to Cyrus(upgraded hardware at the same time), > my boss did some testing and noticed a near 20x improvement in > performance for large mailboxes(10k+ messages). The testing I did/do was/is on the mesages of debian-users, about 38k/155MB in the folder, on ext3fs, IDE disc, 700 MHz Athlon. Courier becomes, hmm, acceptable for a single user when the FS is mounted with the noatime option. Cyrus is still happy with it, even with webmail clients; it might be even better when used on a partition mounted with noatime, but I can't test this here because I won't mount /var with noatime. Maybe it won't do any harm, but I don't know. > Since i use webmail I need to keep folder sizes small(folders I > routinely access I try to keep under 500 messages, my archive > folders have 1500+), This won't be a problem with courier. When testing, I created a folder and copied over about 8000 messages from debian-users into it. Courier should be ok, for a single user, up to about 10k messages in a folder. However, cyrus is much faster in any case. > just so that folder access is near instantaneous. If you use a mail > client which caches data such as netscape, mozilla, and I think even > outlook caches data, response time will be near immediate for even > huge mailboxes. Ja, besides squirrelmail and imp, I'm using the mozilla client for testing. The mozilla client is really fast. But I'll stay with mutt ... :) > Keep in mind to use a good file system or at least tune your > filesystem if you plan to have tens/hundreds of thousands of small > files. I hear reiserfs is good for this. The server will need some RAID setup to have the data mirrored, either software RAID or hardware RAID. Unfortunately, it will have IDE discs to provide sufficent storage capacity at reasonable costs. My idea is to eventually use a fast SCSI disk to put the more actively used mail folders on it and to create an archives.* hierarchy on the IDE disc. Users will be forced to move their older mail to their folders under archives.* by setting quotas accordingly. Thanks to cyrus, this can be set up transparently. As for the number of files that need to be handled, I've no good idea of how many it will be. Here at home, my mail folders currently keep 1.2 GB in 158675 files (including directories). Each user will probably have a quota of 1 GB, but the mails they get are often m
Re: spaces in filenames
Once upon a time Sheldon Lee-Wen said... > Hi, > >I'm trying to write a script where I can get the names of files in a > directory. Normally this is easy, like this: > >for doc in `ls /var/www/htlml/files` > do > echo $i > done > > However, some of the files have spaces in the names, like "My File.html" > How do I get $doc to have the correct file name? there's no need to us ls(1). Use shell globbing. for doc in /var/www/html/files/* do echo "$doc" done -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 82845G Graphics Controller
http://www.xfree86.org/~dawes/845driver.html http://support.intel.com/support/graphics/intel845g/linux.htm There's no 82845G graphics support in any stable version of Debian, nor in stable version of XFree86. XFree86 4.3.0 will first include support for this card (in the rewritten i815 driver). But then you have to compile the kernel wih i830 DRM support. If you need support now, you must download the develop releases of XFree86 (should be version 4.2.99-xx) and compile it yourself. Me for myself use 82845GE since yesterday. VESA driver is used by now, with a maximum resolution of 1024x768@16bit , but it doesn't seem to work over 60Hz (looks awful on a 19" monitor). Maybe I'll try compiling it (as a test), before reorganizing my computer. If you have more questions, I'll try to answer them. (you may ask in german too) David Good luck. - Original Message - From: "Hans Gubitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Debian User List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 4:47 PM Subject: 82845G Graphics Controller > Hi, > > is there someone who can post a XF86Config-4 for this graphics > controller? > > HG > -- > Hans Gubitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 1/21/2003 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CRASHING HARD DRIVE
I would set up some kind of backup strategy. I know its almost too late in the game to bring that up, but you may still be able to pull it off. That said, what I would suggest to make a rebuild easier, would be to capture the following: Capture your package list: dpkg --get-selections > -pkglist Grab any non-standard directories you have on the machine, e.g. /usr/local, /opt, /home, etc, as well as a few debian-specific directories (like /var/backups, /var/cache/debconf, /var/lib, /boot and /lib/modules). From this I exclude /var/cache/apt/archives, Cache and cache directories (mozilla and netscape cache directories respectively). Write these to a CD, and you should be able to rebuild on another drive without problems: 1. Do the base system install. After reboot, when prompted to start run deselect, exit out. 2. Log in, mount the CD you made, then do dpkg --set-selections < /cdrom/-pkglist apt-get dselect-upgrade 3. Go through the configuration, then go ahead and restore from CD (although you probably want to skip the /var directories if you rebuilt from scratch). I actually have a backup script that does a pretty good job of backing up and is pretty configurable. On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 11:22:40AM -0800, D. wrote: > Hi All, > I know that this has been discussed before so I > apologize for asking again. I believe that my hard > drive is on its last leg. Can I do a quick and dirty > bzip2 / and will that bzip2 by drive so that I can > copy it to another, then do the bunzip2? I'm looking > for a easy solution, I can re-install, that's not a > problem, I just hate to loose some programs that I > have installed. > Thanks in advance. > Don > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --Brad Bradley M. Alexander| Debian Developer, Security Engineer | storm [at] tux.org Debian/GNU Linux Developer | storm [at] debian.org Key fingerprints: DSA 0x54434E65: 37F6 BCA6 621D 920C E02E E3C8 73B2 C019 5443 4E65 RSA 0xC3BCBA91: 3F 0E 26 C1 90 14 AD 0A C8 9C F0 93 75 A0 01 34 If we aren't supposed to eat animals, why are they made of meat? msg28998/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: knowledge
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 08:07:27PM -0500, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: > Existence is a trinity of three equivalent aspects: matter, > motion, and consciousness. None of these three can exist > without the other two. All matter is in motion and has > consciousness. Matter is composed of primordial atoms, which > Pythagoras called monads, the smallest possible parts of > primordial matter and the smallest firm points for individual > consciousness. The original cause of motion is the dynamic > energy of primordial matter. To begin with, consciousness in > the primordial atoms is potential (unconscious), is gradually > awakened in the process of manifestation, becoming actualized > passive consciousness, and subsequently becomes increasingly > more active in ever higher worlds of ever higher natural > kingdoms. sounded reasonable until i got to the point where i could conclude that 'sandstone is self-aware' from your text. matter, time (motion), energy, and space yes. something (matter) has to be doing the existing; if it can change it needs time; for any change to occur, forces (energy) must be exerted to make it happen; and all this must have room to do so, in. even if there's no observer. time (motion): 1 dimension (forward, backward) energy: 1 dimension (more, less) space: 3 dimensions (up/down, east/west, north/south vectors) matter: many dimensions/properties: mass, electromagnetic attributes, chemical reactivities, nuclear aspects... etc until we get to consciousness (on earth, in the higher primates outside of political office) consciousness is an incidental attribute of serendipitous circumstances*. (and, so far as we can tell to date, scarce.) also see "the origin of consciousness (in the breakdown of the bicameral mind)" by the late dr. julian jaynes. * which very well may have been by design. -- I use Debian/GNU Linux version 3.0; Linux server 2.4.20-k6 #1 Mon Jan 13 23:49:14 EST 2003 i586 unknown DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #23 from Will Trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : Wondering what you should BACK UP -- and what you shouldn't? Here's a "how I do it" written by a debian-user regular, Karsten Self: http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/backups.html This is a frequent topic on debian-user; check the archives at lists.debian.org for other backup approaches -- search for "backup scheme". Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to prevent x startup
I finally have a partially working x configuration, but clearly my keyboard is not being properly recognized, and my mouse is not being recognized at all. I would like to stay at the command line prompt to fix the config files, but my system automatically starts up gdm How do I abort the startup of x?
Re: fstab/mount filesystem nomenclature
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 03:35:25PM -0500, David Turetsky wrote: > > What is the appropriate nomenclature for logical/entended partitions in > fstab and elsewhere > > For example, hde1 (or hda1) is the base partition. If I use an extended > partition, is that hde2 or what > I might be able to resolve this more fully if I good see the dialog that > flashes by on booting. That's what led me to use hde. The rest of it goes > by too fast to read. How do I redirect that startup stream To get a list of the partitions on /dev/hde do: fdisk -l /dev/hde To get the disk partition stuff out of the boot messages: dmesg | grep hd (or just dmesg | less to page through the whole lot) Some examples from my system. This is a SCSI drive so it's /dev/sd? instead of /dev/hd?, but everything else is the same. # fdisk -l /dev/sdb Disk /dev/sdb: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 255 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/sdb1 * 126208813+ 6 FAT16 /dev/sdb227905140806 FAT16 /dev/sdb39194 321305 Extended /dev/sdb495 255 1293232+ b Win95 FAT32 /dev/sdb59191 80011 FAT12 /dev/sdb69292 80011 FAT12 /dev/sdb79393 80011 FAT12 /dev/sdb89494 80011 FAT12 Here, /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdb2 are primary DOS partitions, /dev/sdb3 is an extended partition, and /dev/sdb4 is a primary Windoze partition. Having numbered all the primary partitions, we now start numbering the logical partitions inside the extended partition. So these are numbered /dev/sdb5 ... /dev/sdb8. These are logical partitions of the very small DOS variety (they are in fact "dummies" to keep Windoze's drive letters consistent after I shuffled my hard disks around). You can tell these are extended partitions because their start and end figures are within the range of the start and end figures of the extended partition (91 - 94). You can also tell from the dmesg output: # dmesg | grep sdb Attached scsi disk sdb at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 SCSI device sdb: 411 512-byte hdwr sectors (2104 MB) sdb: sdb1 sdb2 sdb3 < sdb5 sdb6 sdb7 sdb8 > sdb4 This notation means that sdb5 ... sdb8 are logical partitions inside the extended partition sdb3. Note: you can't mount an extended partition. You have to mount the logical partition(s) inside it. So if you have a base partition hde1, and an extended partition hde2, and that's it for primary partitions, your first logical drive inside the extended partition will be hde3, and that's what you need to be mounting, if I've understood your problem correctly. Pigeon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: columbia -- what really happened
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 04:12:49PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 12:09, Pigeon wrote: > [snip] > > What do you think of the Culture economy? All work is done by > > machines, which are designed to work properly and last for millennia - > > fully upgradeable, of course. So no-one has to worry about going > > hungry or any other physical need, or want. The Luddites never saw > > this far ahead. For all our technology, we're still Luddites today. > > That would be *the*worst* plan, as shown by the multiple generations > of the same families on welfare. They have not bettered themselves. What exactly do you mean by "bettered themselves"? If you mean "improved their financial situation", that doesn't apply to the Culture: everything is built and maintained by machines, which cater for people's physical requirements from food to spaceships without needing to be paid. Money, as a result, is extinct; "rich" and "poor" have become meaningless; everyone lives in luxury if they want to. There's a magic power source, of course; materials are supplied by space mining, as far as I can make out, by machines. If you mean "educated themselves", personal motivation has a lot to do with it. People who are on welfare because they can't be arsed probably won't be arsed to educate themselves. Also, education tends to be expensive. And a lot of people are only too glad to get out of school, and hate the idea of anything resembling going back to it. But there are some people on welfare who use their time in intellectual pursuits, reading, learning. I doubt the proportion of people on welfare who educate themselves is very much different from the proportion of people in work who educate themselves (note: my definition of "education" here would include studying philosophy but exclude taking a course because people in the position you aspire to be promoted to are expected to have done it). - ie: much smaller than the proportion of people who spend their non-work time watching TV or going down the pub. I see the inside of a lot of people's houses when I repair their TVs and stuff. What are they all missing? Books... The Culture seems to repeat this pattern quite realistically. > Also, look at the "old money" rich, who don't have to work. The > Kennedys and the DuPonts aren't paragons of moral virtue... True. But look at a random selection of people you see on the news. Many of them are "newsworthy" precisely because of some transgression; most of them work. Indeed, their newsworthy transgression may well be something to do with their job (like that Barings bank bloke, or the nurses/doctors who knock patients off every now and then). I don't think the idea that people should be made to work to keep them out of mischief is very sound. The Culture has eliminated crime caused by physical want or envy by making luxury freely available to everyone. But that doesn't cover everything by a long chalk. In the Culture, the precepts of "do as you would be done by" and "love your neighbour" seem to have become as instinctive as "don't piss in the street". How this has been achieved is a matter of speculation. I think it is probably the major weakness of the scenario. Pigeon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: modem / pon / serial problems
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 06:19:36PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: > On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 10:14:36PM +, Pigeon wrote: > > So I have resorted to a VILE HACK. The main box exports its /etc via > > NFS to the modem box. A script in the modem box's /etc/ppp/ip-up.d > > then copies the modem box's newly updated /etc/resolv.conf across to > > the main box whenever I connect. > > Grotesque. True. > Now you've gone and installed portmap and NFS services on > your gateway box which can't be that great of an idea security-wise. On the main box, I have an HD partition with all 7 Woody CDs on it. I installed NFS on the other one so I could install things by apt-getting them from the main box, without having to muck about swapping CDs. Guess I can always purge it when I've finished setting up. > > I'm sure there must be a less vile method of doing this... what is it? > > Install DNS caching software on the gateway (the modem box). Have all > internal machines use the gateway as their nameserver (use a static > resolv.conf). You can use BIND as a caching only nameserver, and of > course there are other choices like dnsmasq, maradns, pdnsd, and DJB's > dnscache. That's plenty of options to experiment with... guess the NFS will stay for a while :-) It's more complicated a solution than I was thinking of, but it'll also no doubt enable me to refer to the local machines by name instead of by number. On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 06:06:36PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Pigeon writes: > > I'm sure there must be a less vile method of doing this... what is it? > > a) Run a caching-only nameserver on the modem box. > > b) Just put the ISP's three nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf and be happy. > The only real purpose served by "dynamic DNS" is to save users the trouble > of typing in the numbers. All three servers will work regardless of which > two they sent you most recently. Well, (b) will de-vile me until I sort (a) out, which makes life easier. Thanks, to both of you. Pigeon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LTSP & TFTP on Woody
sdownes wrote:
> I've installed the Linux Terminal Server .debs on my file server & I'm
> trying to run an old machine from it. I have got the DHCP working & the
> terminal is finding its address & asking for the kernel but then nothing.
>
> I've installed TFTP & it is in inetd.conf & services but I think it isn't
> listening fot the call from the workstation.
>
> I've tried the tftp -s option & normal & adjusted the dhcp command to suit
> & everything else I can think of.
>
> How can I tell whether tftp is listening & if not why not?
>
Try looking in /var/log/syslog; that is where my tftp requests show up. I
can't really help with the entry in /etc/inetd.conf since I use
/etc/xinetd.conf. Here are my entries for LTSP in xinetd.conf:
service bootps
{
socket_type = dgram
protocol= udp
wait= yes
user= root
server = /usr/sbin/bootpd
server_args = -i -t 120
}
service tftp
{
socket_type = dgram
protocol= udp
wait= yes
user= root
server = /usr/sbin/in.tftpd
server_args = -s /tftpboot
disable = no
}
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Re: c program chart, scheme, plan
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 12:28:18AM +0300, Andrei Smirnov wrote: > Hi all! > And, in general, what tools, editors, other things you are using > to facilitate c (or other languages) development ? I use RHIDE, which is a clone of the Borland Turbo C DOS environment. For this you need to download rhide and its associated packages setedit and tvision by CVS from sourceforge.net, and also get the appropriate version of the gdb source (currently you need 5.1.1). It's a port from DJGPP and the port has a few holes in it, so you have to piss around a bit to get it to compile, but I think the result is worth it - if you like the Turbo C environment. Pigeon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spaces in filenames
-- Sheldon Lee-Wen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Thursday, 06 February 2003, 01:11 PM -0500): > Hi, > >I'm trying to write a script where I can get the names of files in a > directory. Normally this is easy, like this: > >for doc in `ls /var/www/htlml/files` > do > echo $i > done > > However, some of the files have spaces in the names, like "My File.html" > How do I get $doc to have the correct file name? echo "$doc" -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CRASHING HARD DRIVE
> -Original Message- > From: D. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:23 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: CRASHING HARD DRIVE > > > Hi All, > I know that this has been discussed before so I > apologize for asking again. I believe that my hard > drive is on its last leg. Can I do a quick and dirty > bzip2 / and will that bzip2 by drive so that I can > copy it to another, then do the bunzip2? I'm looking > for a easy solution, I can re-install, that's not a > problem, I just hate to loose some programs that I > have installed. > Thanks in advance. > Don AFAIK, bzip2 is a compressor, not an archiver. You'll need to use tar if you want to do that. If I was really concerned, I'd do this: tar zcf somefileondifferentdisk.tgz /any /olddirectories /icare/about And something like this (not exactly sure of syntax here): dd if=/dev/hdb3 of=someotherfileonanotherdisk This would give me the file level snapshot with the tar command, and a block level image with the dd command. I could then later mount the block image using a loopback file system. It's more complicated but I'm guaranteed not to miss any data from that partition. Tar is less than ideal here since it will cross file systems. You'll need to make sure it doesn't do that or you'll end up with a lot of crap in you tar file, making it tough to use. However, the tar file should take up a great deal less space. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2 apt-get questions
Hal Vaughan wrote: Actually, I should have asked this with the question. The game is Enigma, and I found the binaries on mirrors, but the game is listed on the Debian website. It doesn't show up when I apt-cache search enigma. Is that because I'm using stable and it's in testing or unstable? When I did a search on the Debian website, it did not show up in the Stable branch, but it did show up in the testing and unstable branches. Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.1 in sid
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 02:06:27PM +0800, Arne Goetje wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thursday 06 February 2003 05:17, Rudy Gevaert wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 06:45:54AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > KDE starts drifting into sid! .debs at 11:00 (-0100). There's some > > > kde related debs on incoming.debian.org that should be in tonight's > > > update. > > > > Before I upgrade my system, does anyone experience some fallbacks? > > Upgrading that doesn't work? > > Be sure that beside libarts1 you also install libarts1-dev. Otherwise you > will end up having an unusable KDE system, because knotify (the crash > handler) depends on a library that is only in the dev package and will > crash continiously and fill up your screen with crash notices when it > doesn't find that library... :( webworm:/home/rudy# apt-get install libarts1-dev Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: kde: Depends: libarts or libarts-alsa but it is not going to be installed or libarts-bin but it is not installable Depends: libkmid or libkmid-alsa but it is not going to be installed or libkmid-bin but it is not installable Depends: kdebase-audiolibs but it is not going to be installed or kdebase3-audiolibs but it is not installable E: Sorry, broken packages webworm:/home/rudy# Btw, is kde3.1 already in sid? I thought when I did my upgrade kde would be upgraded, but nothing happend... Thanks in advance, -- Rudy Gevaert - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.webworm.org GNU/Linux advocate - http://www.gnu.org/ El objeto de nuestra investigación no es saber qué es la virtud sino cómo ser buenos, y ése es el único provecho que sacaremos -- Aristóteles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CRASHING HARD DRIVE
Hi All, I know that this has been discussed before so I apologize for asking again. I believe that my hard drive is on its last leg. Can I do a quick and dirty bzip2 / and will that bzip2 by drive so that I can copy it to another, then do the bunzip2? I'm looking for a easy solution, I can re-install, that's not a problem, I just hate to loose some programs that I have installed. Thanks in advance. Don __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lordsutch Netinst cd's still being maintained?
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 08:33:02PM -0600, Shyamal Prasad wrote: > > I don't know if it is maintained or not, but there is no real need to > update it. Since it is a net install it will always update your system > as soon as you give it a chance. > > I use the LordSutch CD, and it will offer to add the security lines to > your sources.list as part of the install anyway. I don't think I found > any bugs in the image, so I'm not sure what you want updated. > > Cheers! > Shyamal > You're right, that most people would immediately update their system from the security lines, but my experience in the past was that when security changes came out, they would be integrated into the image. It is possible to create an entire running system from the little 180MB CD, and I supposed some people do that without connecting to the net. My reason for asking is not because I'm worried about security, I'm just curious whether it's being maintained since it wasn't being update as frequently as it had been. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dangling DCOP files in Woody, KDE 2.2.2
Hi all. I help support a research group in which several not-too-savvy users run on KDE. Since converting their machines from Mandrake to Debian/Woody, they've started having problems with .DCOP* files being left behind in their home directories after they log out of their KDE sessions, with the result that when they try to log back in again, nothing works. We can write various hacks that will get rid of the .DCOP files, but does anybody know what might be causing this in the first place? Their home directories are NFS mounted from a fileserver (still Mandrake, kernel release 2.4.18, glibc version 2.2.2-4mdk), but other than that this is a pretty vanilla installation of Woody, so I expect that if we're having this problem somebody else must have run across it; nonetheless, all my attempts to STFW come up empty so far. I've checked, and they do log out of KDE in an orderly manner; this isn't being caused by dumb stuff like ctl-alt-backspace as far as I can tell. Thanks, -mrj -- # Michael Jinks, IB # JFI/MRSEC/EFI Computing # University of Chicago # Reader! Think not that technical information ought not be called speech; -- Anonymous, "How to decrypt a DVD" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spaces in filenames
On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 11:11, Sheldon Lee-Wen wrote: > Hi, > >I'm trying to write a script where I can get the names of files in a > directory. Normally this is easy, like this: > >for doc in `ls /var/www/htlml/files` > do > echo $i > done > > However, some of the files have spaces in the names, like "My File.html" > How do I get $doc to have the correct file name? ls -b /var/www/htlml/files Andreas -- Andreas J. Guelzow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Taliesin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
RE: Installing Non-Debian Programs w/out Apt -- what effect?
General Rule - anything not part of the distribution, compile from source and use the installation prefix of /usr/local/ This will keep your custom installation separate from the distribution and give you an easy upgrade route later on. If the program needs it's own shared libraries then don't forget to add the /usr/local/lib path to /etc/ld.so.conf. Happy Hacking, Colin Ellis Solution City Ltd http://www.solution-city.com -Original Message- From: Hal Vaughan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 06 February 2003 18:21 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Installing Non-Debian Programs w/out Apt -- what effect? Now that I finally have a working Debian system, I want to know what will happen if I install non-Debian programs. I know this will vary from case to case, but I'm wondering what the general impact is if I have to install programs that I can't do from apt. For example, Main Concept will be coming out with a pretty good video editor soon (Main Actor), and it'll have its own install program. I'll also need Open Office. (I know there's a package in Sid, but this is for production boxen for my company -- I don't have time to deal w/ unstable and fix things as they break -- I'd also like to try to keep my system as stable.) If I install programs, do they generally not interfere w/ apt? And, while I'm on it -- once a program is packaged (like Open Office) and is in unstable, is there any general rule of thumb for how long it takes to go to testing and finally to stable? Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] USB -> Ethernet adapters
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:12:50 -0500 "Thomas H. George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 11:20:48PM -0600, Jacob S. wrote: > > Looking at the device compatability list on www.linux-usb.org it > > looks like these adapters are supported fairly well. I was wondering > > though if anyone has had any experience with them, good or bad, and > > what their recommendation would be for purchasing a new one. > > > > TIA, > > Jacob > > I have been struggling off and on for two months trying to get an > Actiontec Wireless USB Adapter to work on a Woody system with a 2.4.18 > kernel and/or a Testing system with a 2.4.20 kernel - so far without > success. With Woody I have compiled linux-wlan-ng-0.1.16-pre8 (there > is now a pre9) and with Testing I have tried the Debian linux-wlan-ng > package. The Adapter should work - other people, particularly Jacek > Pliszka, report success using it with Red Hat and with SuSE. > > Tom George Sorry, I should have been more specific. I'm looking at wired usb>ethernet adapters. More along the lines of what Derrick mentions in the next post, if I'm understanding him right. Tnx, Jacob - GnuPG Key: 1024D/16377135 In a world without fences, who needs Gates? http://www.linux.org/ msg28981/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
