Re: Certification
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 11:18:21PM -0800, Barry deFreese wrote: > We're not talking about reality here, we're talking about corporate > America! :-) I agree that certification doesn't necessarily keep you up > to date in reality, but it looks that way on paper, which unfortunately > too many people rely on. As with most things, it's all about perception... Yeah, but why would I want to work for a company that doesn't care who I am or what I know as long as I've been suckered into spending about what I think is a reasonable price for a car for a "magic" piece of paper? Isn't there a fairy tale about this? Didn't the hero get crushed by a giant? -- .''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than to fix a system msg30879/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: docs via www behaviour
On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 06:00:20PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > Hi all, > > I've just discovered something interesting - when I view docs for > my installed packages via apache, there are some files I don't see. > > I _think_, this is because apache treats files starting with > "README" specially. > > Is the appropriate solution to turn this behaviour off in apache, > or would it be better for package maintainers not to put such > files in the doc directory? Here's the Apache config line responsible: IndexIgnore .??* *~ *# HEADER* README.* RCS CVS *,v *,t Change it as you see fit. -- Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I must despise the world which does not know that music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -- Ludwig van Beethoven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3? or 4?
Bill Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have been playing around with my machine and I have determined that > some how when I performed an upgrade I triggered the package libfam0c102 > to replace libfam0. The latest KDE packages that require libfam0c102 I > was not able to get to work at all. Also there are a number of packages > that are either directly or indirectly dependent upon libfam0 and there > are not versions yet which work with libfam0c102. Once I determined what > was the problem I removed the libfam0c102 package and all of the > packages that require it and reinstalled libfam0 and KDE and now > everything works great. That's OK for now, I guess, but you'll definitely want to move to the libfam0c102-based packages in the near future. libfam0 is obsolete as it was compiled with the old GCC 2.95 compiler which is no longer the default compiler in unstable. -- On a scale of 1 to 10? It sucked. msg30877/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
orinoco_cs driver on kernel >= 2.4.20
I upgraded the kernel to 2.4.20 / 2.4.22 (both from binary and compiled) and the driver for linksys pcmcia card, orinoco_cs driver gives the error, IRQ in use. I tryed in /pcmcia/config.opts to set reseve the IRQ 3 but this didn't change anything. The 2.4.18 kernel worked fine. Any ideeas ? Thank you, Florentin. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Certification
Paul Johnson wrote: On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 10:31:21AM -0800, deFreese, Barry wrote: I think the stigma is changing some after many companies have been burned hiring the "certified" morons. However, getting certified is never necessarily a bad thing. It can be a way to keep up with technology and it also shows employers that you are willing to continue learning/growing. I don't even think it's a good way to stay current. Well, at least not in any manner that you couldn't get from looking through the certification vendor's software and hardware sales catalogs and Google... We're not talking about reality here, we're talking about corporate America! :-) I agree that certification doesn't necessarily keep you up to date in reality, but it looks that way on paper, which unfortunately too many people rely on. As with most things, it's all about perception... -- Barry deFreese Debian 3.0r1 "Woody" Registered Linux "Newbie" #302256 - Debian Developer Wannabe "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." Rich Cook. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3? or 4?
I have been playing around with my machine and I have determined that some how when I performed an upgrade I triggered the package libfam0c102 to replace libfam0. The latest KDE packages that require libfam0c102 I was not able to get to work at all. Also there are a number of packages that are either directly or indirectly dependent upon libfam0 and there are not versions yet which work with libfam0c102. Once I determined what was the problem I removed the libfam0c102 package and all of the packages that require it and reinstalled libfam0 and KDE and now everything works great. On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 15:05, Brian Nelson wrote: > Bill Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I am having a problem and I am wondering if someone out there is having > > the same problem or can explain what is going on. > > > > My laptop was running KDE3 from unstable. About 3 days ago I did an > > upgrade that upgraded it to what appears to be a partial upgrade to > > version 4. > > KDE 3 only appeared in the archives recently. If you were really using > KDE from unstable, it was KDE 2. > > > But in the process it removed something that is needed in order to > > work properly. Now I can not get a desktop, nor can I reinstall KDE3, > > unstable repository seems to be missing some packages. I am unable to > > get any version of KDE from anywhere to install. I could easily be > > doing something wrong but everything was working great 3 days ago. > > > > Does anyone have any idea what might be going on? > > You're probably confused by the fact that kdelibs4 are the kdelibs for > KDE 3. There is no KDE version 4 yet. > > As for the missing packages (kdenetwork and kdepim, I think), they > should appear in the archives in the next few days. You'll also need to > remove libfam0 and anything depending on it before you can install the > new KDE. -- Bill Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
my CUPS RUnneth Over!!!
Hi everyone, I saw on the web that CUPS stands for Can't Usually Print Stuff. That describs my current situation perfectly. Here's the situation: 1) CUPS 1.1.15 (testing) on a mostly-woody box 2) Lexmark z53 on USB 3) /usr/share/cups/model/Lexmark/Lexmark-Z53-lexmarkinkjet-ppd.ppd as my ppd file Once upon a time, CUPS worked for me. Then I tasted of the fruit of knowledge, the Lord grew angry, and cast me out of the Garden. Now I struggle to find my way in. - printing broke somehow - I uninstalled everything (apt-get remove --purge) - I reinstalled everything -printing was broke worse (couldn't use the web interface at all) - so I upgraded to testing, and now the web interface works But now I'm in the same predicament, namely, I can't print. The only thing I can think to do here is to enclose a little bit of the error log. I suspect the problem is in the interaction of CUPS with other parts of the print system (like ghostview?) but I can't figure out where exactly. So, I've enclosed my printers.conf and and some of the error_log. Can anyone help me??? First, the Printers.conf: Info Lexmark Z53 DeviceURI test:/dev/null State Idle Accepting Yes JobSheets none none QuotaPeriod 0 PageLimit 0 KLimit 0 --> this seems fine -- test:/dev/null is what I used to have to have in that line, always worked before, though I never understood why I needed it. Anyway, changing it back to usb:/dev/usb/lp0 just adds one more error. Now, the error_log. I've edited it somewhat, but left a lot in since I don't know what's important. The errors start in the last section, which I've marked. I hope someone cna figure out what's going on!!! thanks, matt here's the log: I [14/Feb/2003:23:24:33 -0500] Listening to 0:631 D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:33 -0500] AddLocation: added location '/' D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:33 -0500] AllowIP: / allow / D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:33 -0500] AllowIP: / allow 7f01/ D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:33 -0500] AddLocation: added location '/admin' D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:33 -0500] AllowIP: /admin allow / D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:33 -0500] AllowIP: /admin allow 7f01/ D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:33 -0500] ReadConfiguration() ConfigurationFile="/etc/cups/cupsd.conf" I [14/Feb/2003:23:24:33 -0500] Configured for up to 100 clients. I [14/Feb/2003:23:24:33 -0500] LoadPPDs: Read "/etc/cups/ppds.dat", 926 PPDs... I [14/Feb/2003:23:24:34 -0500] LoadPPDs: No new or changed PPDs... D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:34 -0500] LoadDevices: Added device "ipp"... -- SNIP -- D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:34 -0500] LoadDevices: Added device "usb:/dev/usb/lp0"... D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:34 -0500] LoadDevices: Added device "usb:/dev/usb/lp1"... D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:34 -0500] LoadDevices: Added device "usb:/dev/usb/lp2"... D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:34 -0500] LoadDevices: Added device "usb:/dev/usb/lp3"... D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:34 -0500] LoadDevices: Added device "usb:/dev/usb/lp4"... -- SNIP -- D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:34 -0500] StartListening: NumListeners=1 D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:34 -0500] StartListening: address= port=631 D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:34 -0500] ResumeListening: setting input bits... D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:34 -0500] LoadAllJobs: Scanning /var/spool/cups... D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:34 -0500] LoadAllJobs: Loading attributes for job 1... D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:34 -0500] LoadAllJobs: Loading attributes for job 2... D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:34 -0500] LoadAllJobs: Loading attributes for job 3... vD [14/Feb/2003:23:24:42 -0500] AcceptClient() 3 from 67.69.252.21:631. D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:42 -0500] ReadClient() 3 GET /printers HTTP/1.1 D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:42 -0500] CGI /usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi started - PID = 23296 I [14/Feb/2003:23:24:42 -0500] Started "/usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi" (pid=23296) D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:42 -0500] SendCommand() 3 file=5 D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:42 -0500] AcceptClient() 6 from 127.0.0.1:631. D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:42 -0500] ReadClient() 6 POST / HTTP/1.1 D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:42 -0500] ReadClient() 6 POST / HTTP/1.1 D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:42 -0500] CloseClient() 6 D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:43 -0500] CloseClient() 3 D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:55 -0500] AcceptClient() 3 from 67.69.252.21:631. D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:55 -0500] ReadClient() 3 GET /printers/commandlinez53?op=print-test-page HTTP/1.1 D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:55 -0500] CGI /usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi started - PID = 23300 I [14/Feb/2003:23:24:55 -0500] Started "/usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi" (pid=23300) D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:55 -0500] SendCommand() 3 file=6 D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:55 -0500] AcceptClient() 5 from 127.0.0.1:631. D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:55 -0500] ReadClient() 5 POST /printers/commandlinez53 HTTP/1.1 D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:55 -0500] print_job: request file type is application/postscript. D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:55 -0500] check_quotas: requesting-user-name = 'root' D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:55 -0500] print_job: requesting-user-name = 'root' D [14/Feb/2003:23:24:55 -0500] Adding default job-sheets values "none,non
RE: Where is kernel source?
-Original Message- From: Duncan Baynes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Where is kernel source? On Sat, 2003-02-15 at 12:03, David Turetsky wrote: > Iÿm looking for the debian linux kernel source > > > > Apparently itÿs not kept at /usr/src/linux > > > > -- > > David Hi, I think you'll find the source is in /usr/src it'll be a file called something like 'kernel-source-2.4.20.tar.bz2' If you don't have the kernel source install you need to type 'apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.20' (change the version numbers to the one you want!!) you need to extract this file: ie. 'tar -jxvf kernel-source-2.4.20.tar.bz2' this will extract the source code into a directory called (in this example) 'kernel-source-2.4.20' you should then create a sym. link ie. 'ln -s kernel-source-2.4.20 linux' you can then change to /usr/src/linux and compile your new kernel! Bye, Duncan Excellent. Thanks. I stopped just short of compiling the new kernel (perhaps another day). I needed this to accommodate the installation of an 'el cheapo' winmodem driver supported under linux -- David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS errors
Fixed it by upgrading to testing (CUPS 1.1.15). (in case anyone has same problem). see new thread for new problems! matt On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 12:54:37PM -0500, Matt Price wrote: > Hi everyone, > > after some misguided, uninformed apt-getting I broke my CUPS system > and couldn't figure out what was wrong. So I decided to remove all > CCUPS packages (cupsys, cupsys-client, and a couple of tohers) as well > as the foomatic packages, reinstall them, and try again. > > Now CUPS is reinstalled, but I'm having a terrible time getting my > printer reinstalled. Here's the situation: > > even though I ran apt-get remove --purge, when I reinstalled CUPS my > old printer ocnfiguration files were still there. So to try and get > rtd of htem, I erased /etc/cupsys/printers.conf. This was not > sufficient; cups still seems to think that my old printers are there, > andwhen I try to removethem I get > "ckient-error-gone" in the web interface (I can't find these errors > in the error log, or I'd give you a afuller reading from the log) > > SAo I figured I'd just try to add a new pritner description. When I > do this, I get > "client-error-not-authorized". > > I tried fiddng around with the authorizations in cupsd.ocnf, but this > hasn't helped yet. > > I should add that I had some trouble setting my printer up when I first > installed it (I have a Lexmark z53 on USB), but I kept careful notes > about how to fix the problem (after someone helped me out on this > list!) and have followed them scrupulously. > > Can anyone help me? I can't find a description of these > "client-errors" anywhere inth e CUPS docs! > > thanks, > > matt > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Certification
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 10:31:21AM -0800, deFreese, Barry wrote: > I think the stigma is changing some after many companies have been burned > hiring the "certified" morons. However, getting certified is never > necessarily a bad thing. It can be a way to keep up with technology and it > also shows employers that you are willing to continue learning/growing. I don't even think it's a good way to stay current. Well, at least not in any manner that you couldn't get from looking through the certification vendor's software and hardware sales catalogs and Google... -- .''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than to fix a system msg30870/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Certification
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 11:04:33AM -0500, Mike M wrote: > Certification is for PHBs only. Right? Is there any evidence other than > marketing blather that certification is a worthwhile endeavor? Not that I know of. Though if you want n^3 reasons against it, go cruise alt.sysadmin.recovery or alt.tech-support.recovery to see what kind of irreversable damage certification does to one's brain. -- .''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than to fix a system msg30869/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Newbie Installation Problems
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 07:25:14AM -0800, Rowland Fellows wrote: > I am able to install 3.0 successfully from the disk images I've > downloaded from Oregon State. Fun fact: Today is Oregon Day. On this day in 1859, Oregon became the US's 33rd state, the result of the Vote at Champoeg, in which two Canadians wanted dead or alive tipped the vote from 49/50 to 51/50 in favor of becoming a US state instead of a Canadian province. Retrospectively, this is considered the worst thing to happen to Oregon as it leaves the international boundary on the wrong side of the state, something that has left us completely defenseless against political and migratory abuse by California (everybody stop moving here, Oregon's full now, not that anybody was welcome to begin with). > However, once installed, the system goes directly into a login > screen from which I cannot login into root. How to I get the system > to boot in such a way that I can log in as root? Do not log in as root. Use su instead. If you have to run something graphical as root, as a normal user type xhost +local:localhost, then run the command as root using su. Don't log in as root. -- .''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Oregonian. `. `'` `- Oregon. We're the anti-California. msg30868/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Build & install a single module for existing custom kernel
Paul Mackinney said: > Hi, I've been compiling my own kernels for a while thanks to dgpkg, but > recently I've purchased a USB mouse, and I don't seem to have a require > module (HDI...something or other) to run it on USB. Is there a quick & > easy way to build & install the module? My kernel sources have been > sitting untouched since I last built and installed a custom > kernel. if just what you want is the modules, configure the kernel for the additional modules, and make modules ; make modules_install nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Build & install a single module for existing custom kernel
Hi, I've been compiling my own kernels for a while thanks to dgpkg, but recently I've purchased a USB mouse, and I don't seem to have a require module (HDI...something or other) to run it on USB. Is there a quick & easy way to build & install the module? My kernel sources have been sitting untouched since I last built and installed a custom kernel. TIA, Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Possible bootstrap problem with nfs mount?
Hi all, I'm encountering problems trying to nfs mount a ifle system to the debian bootstrap system during an install. I'll try to provide all details I can think of below. The base system is RH7.3, the nfs mount problem has occurred with both hercules versions 2.16.5 and 2.17.1 running Debian-390 (woody,r1). I have an already-configured Debian-390 image that runs fine under both hercules 2.16.5 and under 2.17.1 and can nfs mount directories from the base RH7.3 system with no trouble, both RO and RW directories. Both versions of hercules are configured and built on the base RH system, not installed from pre-built rpm's. I'm testing the install with a new Debian-390 DVD from one of the official Debian cd vendors, http://www.linux-cd.com. The bootstrap image boots OK, gets all the way through to "Install Kernel and Driver Modules" and then asks where to get the packages from. I specify nfs and use "192.168.1.101:/mnt/cdrom" as the nfs source, and the system returns these error messages in the /var/log/messages file (192.168.1.101 is the IP address of the base RH system): Feb 15 05:13:48 (none) user.info dbootstrap[303]: mount: Mounting 192.168.1.101:/mnt/cdrom on /instmnt failed: Invalid argument Feb 15 05:13:48 (none) user.err dbootstrap[303]: Error mounting NFS filesystem `192.168.1.101:/mnt/cdrom', please try again. Feb 15 05:13:57 (none) daemon.warn telnetd[321]: doit: getaddrinfo: Name or service not known I can ping the base RH system from the bootstrap image, as shown here: # ping -c 3 192.168.1.101 PING 192.168.1.101 (192.168.1.101): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 192.168.1.101: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=4.7 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.101: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=3.6 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.101: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=4.8 ms --- 192.168.1.101 ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max = 3.6/4.3/4.8 ms Is this a known problem? Is there anything else I can tell you that will help me resolve the problem? Here are the things I know: ifconfig from the bootstrap image after the error has ocurred: # ifconfig ctc0 Link encap:UNSPEC HWaddr 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 inet addr:192.168.10.2 P-t-P:192.168.10.1 Mask:255.255.255.255 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MTU:32760 Metric:1 RX packets:418 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:304 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:23792 (23.2 kb) TX bytes:77285 (75.4 kb) loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) And here is the matching ifconfig from the base RH system (this is with hercules version 2.17.1): # ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:04:E2:20:76:3A inet addr:192.168.1.101 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:8238 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:5524 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:9290836 (8.8 Mb) TX bytes:786125 (767.7 Kb) Interrupt:9 Base address:0xa000 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:234 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:234 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:20284 (19.8 Kb) TX bytes:20284 (19.8 Kb) tun0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol inet addr:192.168.10.1 P-t-P:192.168.10.2 Mask:255.255.255.252 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING MTU:2000 Metric:1 RX packets:313 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:427 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:10 RX bytes:77351 (75.5 Kb) TX bytes:24293 (23.7 Kb) Here is the hercules config file: # cat conf/linux390-tape.conf CPUSERIAL 002623# CPU serial number CPUMODEL 3090 # CPU model number MAINSIZE 64# Main storage size in megabytes XPNDSIZE 0 # Expanded storage size in megabytes CNSLPORT 3270 # TCP port number to which consoles connect #HTTPPORT 8081 # HTTP server port NUMCPU1 # Number of CPUs LOADPARM 0120 # IPL parameter OSTAILOR LINUX # OS tailoring PANRATE FAST # Panel refresh rate ARCHMODE ESA/390 # Architecture mode S/370, ESA/390 or ESAME 01803480 ./tapes/d390cd.tdf 0e203088 CTCI /dev/net/tun 2000 192.168.10.2 192.168.10.1 255.255.255.252 0e21
Re: kde package dependencies broken (kde relies on everything?)
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 03:38:34PM +0100, Jeff Elkins wrote: > How would one -uninstall- KDE in one fell swoop? Surely, you don't have to > apt-get remove each package? Easiest way is to either run debfoster, or purge Qt and then clean up with deborphan -Pa Also, kinda wondering why the default action of apt-get remove is to simply uninstall, and not purge, which would blow away the cruft left behind by local config... -- .''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than to fix a system msg30864/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
docs via www behaviour
Hi all, I've just discovered something interesting - when I view docs for my installed packages via apache, there are some files I don't see. I _think_, this is because apache treats files starting with "README" specially. Is the appropriate solution to turn this behaviour off in apache, or would it be better for package maintainers not to put such files in the doc directory? Thanks, Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I will never go back to RH
After less than a week with Debian, I'm simply astounded at the power of the apt pkg managment system. I'm in the middle of compiling KDE3.1 and when I come up with a missing part, apt-cache search, apt-get install and BAM I'm in business. No RPM searches...god what a blessing! Thanks list, for your help to a greatful deb-newbie. Jeff Elkins http://www.elkins.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ide aptapi tape drive installation
I have got the tape drive working. First I used the kernel boot option "hdd=ide-scsi". Then I used: modprobe ide-scsi /dev/hdd to load the pseudo lower level SCSI device driver. Now I can access the tape using /dev/st0. This link was helpful: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/SCSI-2.4-HOWTO/sr.html#sratapi Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Locale?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 10:55:49PM +0100, Jeff Elkins wrote: > Knoppix HD install apparently thinks I'm German. At any rate, ispell wants to > use the German dictionary. > > How can I fix the default locale to be US? I'm not sure if this is an ispell thing or a locale thing; however, this is how I installed locales. modified from: http://xtrinsic.com/geek/articles/language.phtml (installation instructions for a search engine) Installing locales You need to make sure the right locale (think language pack) is installed for each language you want to search. Here's a quick checklist that will work on debian servers. With slight modifications you can use it on other servers as well. locale -a shows all installed locales. Check to see if your locale is listed. If you get an error message saying something to the effect of "command not found" when you type locale -a you need to install locales. apt-get install locales Once you've installed locales you'll need to configure them. dpkg-reconfigure locales select the locales you'd like to install leave the default system environment as C unless you'd like to really erk your sys adminin which case change it to some foreign language and watch the sparks fly. :) when the program exits it should "Generate locales." Mine looks like this: Generating locales... en_CA.ISO-8859-1... done en_US.UTF-8... done fr_CA.ISO-8859-1... done Generation complete. when you get your prompt back confirm your locales were properly built by typing: locale-gen Check to see if the locale is installed with locale -a. If it's not, repeat the steps above and cross your fingers harder. You may also want to upgrade your locales as a troubleshooting technique. If you're running Woody + stable you should have no problems. To finish installing on Sid you need to compile the locale definitions file manually (for each locale). I used this: localedef -v -c -i fr_CA -f UTF-8 /usr/lib/locale/fr_CA (man localedef to see what all the options are) NOW you should have the character maps. Repeat these steps for EACH language. g'luck! emma :) -- Emma Jane Hogbin [[ 416 417 2868 ][ www.xtrinsic.com ]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hardware IDE ATA Raid 1 support in Linux Debian - Linux disapointment
On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 01:18:39AM -, Pedro Ruivo (TRQV-DSI) wrote: [ please don't top post. ] > Thanks for you msg. > What i'd like to would be to use hardware raid, i'm used to Compaq (HPAQ) > servers whith smart array controller i thought i would get the same kind of > functionality (limited to raid 0 and 1) on this ide controller. > > I guess i'll toss out this controller and use the onboard ide controller (1 > disk on each channel as i have a SCSI CD-Rom). There's a world of difference between your average SCSI RAID controller, and your average IDE RAID controller, the difference being that the IDE versions are almost always vastly inferior[1]. > Maybe i keep the controller just to try with a newer kernel. This is a Promise controller, right? They don't exactly have a great reputation with regards to good hardware or with providing the necessary info to create a device driver. > Guess Debian is out of hardware manufacturers linux distro list. Only if the hardware manufacturer isn't interested in supporting linux. Adaptec figured this out a long time ago. > I understand the difficulty to make a "for Linux" driver, and hope that LSB > get's more attention in order to easy this Linux difficulties which M$ > doesn't have. I don't understand the difficulty .. all you have to do is release the appropriate information with the hardware. If you want a driver written real fast, you hire someone to do it or send a free on to Alan Cox[2]. of course there are plenty of hardware manufacturers out there who don't want to release hardware specs for varoius reasons.[3] I also don't see how the LSB is going to help in this arena; the LSB is a "standard base" which third party software can depend on to provide certain features and library versions. [1] I hear 3ware doesn't suck, but I've never used one. [2] Or some other intelligent kernel hacker type [3] Video guys like to claim that they'll reveal some trade secret if they release specs. I've been hearing that song since I started playing with computers in the 80s. I suspect in this case Promise doesn't want to release specs because that would make it apparent that their RAID card isn't really a RAID card. -- Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people. -- Laurence J. Peter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: via82cxxx_audio module
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Keith O'Connell wrote: > I downloaded the source and complied a kernel and it all worked > fine(ish). I am using the machine to write this mail. There were a few > problems, but the one I am really stuck on is sound. I know the correct > sound driver is via82cxxx_audio.o. I compile this as a module and there > are no errors generated, however when I try to load the module it > generates the following error message; > > "using /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/sound/via82cxxx_audio.o > /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/sound/via82cxxx_audio.o: unresolved > symbol ac97_probe_codec" > you need to insmod ac97_codec first. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: bbc emulator
> It was called the BBC Microcomputer; it was made by Acorn and > sponsored or something by the BBC, as an educational thing. > Schools got grants to buy either BBCs or RM 380Zs - nobody > bought the RM. It used a 6502, and had an interface to hook > up second processor units; you could get a faster 6502, a Z80 > or a 32016 32-bit chip. Apart from being a bit short of > program memory when you used hi-res graphics modes, the BBC > was the absolute dog's bollocks of home micros. It was the > only one to have any approximation to a real operating system > as opposed to a BASIC interpreter and very little else. > > Pigeon > > I agree with this post. It did however come with a very good basic interpreter, and the hardware itself was quite expandable. It had all manner of input/output ports both digital and analogue, support rbg monitors aswell as rf (tv) output. I grew up using one, that and the zx81. heady days. Exciting times indeed. http://members.aol.com/mikebuk/beebem/download.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Locale?
Knoppix HD install apparently thinks I'm German. At any rate, ispell wants to use the German dictionary. How can I fix the default locale to be US? Thanks, Jeff Elkins http://www.elkins.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PCI graphics cards recommendations
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 05:02:05PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 07:03:08PM +, Jonathan Matthews wrote: > > FWIW I'm running X4.2, with a 15" CRT and a K6-III/550Mhz. I'd be > > looking to try Quake I/II/III (or as far as the K6 will let me go), > > and general desktoppy stuff. I'd like to have the facility to run > > You won't be running Quake II, or at least at a comfortable framerate, > on a PCI graphics adapter. You won't be doing Quake III at all. hmm have only attempted GL on one pci graphics card, was an ati rageII+ nastyness. what i have found is that old graphics cards that hardcore gaming people throw out are perfectly good for people like me who only play occasionally. I use a 32mb gf2mx [agp] that my friend was getting rid of and that runs halflife-cstrike|q3 fine [dont like q3 though.] so yeah PCI does lack bandwith but you dont need to spend ££ on a superwizzy swineforce4[1] in order to play games! just find someone who does, and use their old one! [1]hackles.org :-) hugh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ALSA sound setup
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 10:09:39PM -0500, Chris Mitchell wrote: > On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 10:43:25AM -0600, Larry Holish wrote: > > I think you should be using 'snd-emu10k1', rather than > > 'snd-card-emu10k1' here. See the note at the top of > > /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/README.Debian. > > Hmm... My version of that document doesn't mention that, but it does > sound familiar. Anyway, I tried it. Stopped alsa, edited > /etc/alsa/modutils/0.9, replaced both occurrences (one alias and one in > options), ran update-modules, checked the change had in fact taken effect > in modules.conf, started alsa... no change. I wouldn't need to run that > snddevices script again or anything before it'll take effect, would I? Okay, now this is odd. After your changes, lsmod showed that all of the alsa sound-related modules were *gone*. So I changed it back, updated everything, and got a "no alsa driver installed" error. So I ran alsaconf *again*. And got a new error from it: miguel# /etc/init.d/alsa start Starting ALSA sound driver (version 0.9.0beta10):modprobe: Invalid line 90 in /etc/modules.conf snd_adc_frame_size failed. modprobe: Invalid line 90 in /etc/modules.conf snd_adc_frame_size miguel# Anybody know what an adc frame size is and where I can find out what value goes there for my card? (I googled creativelabs for it and got nothing)... Thanks -Chris msg30853/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: flash, shockwave, and quicktime; and web browser incompatibilities
On Saturday 15 February 2003 4:22 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a science teacher, I built a four machine GNU/Linux network. The biggest headache from the getgo (through all years, in fact of using GNU/Linux exclusively) has been incompatibilities with web sites. While it is a pain, you might want to check out the Crossover Plugin, URL: http://www.codeweavers.com - I've used it and Crossover Office for about a year under RedHat and they seem to function fine under Debian. As a side benefit, they do contribute code back to the Wine project. Jeff Elkins http://www.elkins.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PCI graphics cards recommendations
Hi Yall & Johnathan, yo man, I've got one of those cpu's also (K6-3-400-+), mine will OC to 600 :-) I killed the motherboard (FIC 503, *sobs*), with a 7200 rpm kooler plugged into it & not directly to the power supply. Doh! If you can afford it, the Radeon 7500 64mb, will do what you want, but Quake 3 will be slow, if at all *BFN* Greek Geek :-) 10,000 plus marched in Auckland, New Zealand; against an illegitimate US Presidents Immoral war mongering, today-GG, 16-2-2003. nate wrote: Jonathan Matthews said: Hi everyone. Can anyone recommend/warn me off any PCI graphics cards that are still available at retail? I've googled a bit, but can't find any info written in the last year or so, or any relevant to X4.x FWIW I'm running X4.2, with a 15" CRT and a K6-III/550Mhz. I'd be looking to try Quake I/II/III (or as far as the K6 will let me go), and general desktoppy stuff. I'd like to have the facility to run in as high a resolution as possible at a reasonable refresh rate (where reasonable is, I spose, >65Hz). http://www.insight.com/web/apps/nbs/index.php?K=nvidia+pci+video+card&C=C-VideoCard http://www.insight.com/web/apps/nbs/index.php?K=ati+pci+video+card&C=C-VideoCard insight doesn't always have the best prices but they have great service, and a huge selection. I haven't tried the above cards but they should work fine just like their AGP counterparts, perhaps just a bit slower. I have a matrox g450 dual head PCI from insight in my redhat box(intel l440gx+ motherboard, no AGP), works great. Haven't tried any 3d stuff but I think it's too slow for 3d games, the nvidia would probably be best, ati should work too. looks like maybe the geforce2 MX from the list above would be the fastest, anything faster probably wouldn't make much difference on a k6-3 550, you sure thats not a k6-2? or maybe it's overclocked? fastest k6-3 I've seen I think is 450(I have a 400 in one of my boxes, love it). nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
flash, shockwave, and quicktime; and web browser incompatibilities
As a science teacher, I built a four machine GNU/Linux network. The biggest headache from the getgo (through all years, in fact of using GNU/Linux exclusively) has been incompatibilities with web sites. It seems to me an immorality for scientists to build web sites on proprietary formats; but that's what's happening. I seek advice on dealing with the formats mentioned, as well as others. I teach Advanced Placement (AP) Biology. I cannot tell my students, anymore, to forego such websites. For all the progress that's been made in the Free Software world, this one lags along behind. Science content CD's also use proprietary formats. We are also planning to join a microscope facility for a telepresence microscope project. I'd like to be able to join without putting the guy through changes. Can someone direct me to some websites and discussion groups dealing with these issues? On SEUL/Edu I am over my head. Thanks for ANY comments. Alan Davis Marianas High School Saipan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-670-322-6580 Alan E. Davis, PMB 30, Box 10006, Saipan, MP 96950-8906, CNMI I have steadily endeavored to keep my mind free, so as to give up any hypothesis, however much beloved -- and I cannot resist forming one on every subject -- as soon as facts are shown to be opposed to it. -- Charles Darwin (1809-1882) The right to search for truth implies also a duty; one must not conceal any part of what one has recognized to be true. -- Albert Einstein As we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours, and this we should do freely and generously. -- Benjamin Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Galeon opens multiple frames recursively, endlessly
On a sid box, not really up to date (in the middle of a 350MB upgrade over a dialup connection) galeon is recursively opening up windows when started up. I cannot use galeon. Tried under all users on this system: it's a system wide problem. I have reinstalled galeon, with no change. This has happened before, but worked itself out when I reinstalled galeon from scratch and dist-upgraded the system. Thanks for any advice. Alan Davis -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-670-322-6580 Alan E. Davis, PMB 30, Box 10006, Saipan, MP 96950-8906, CNMI I have steadily endeavored to keep my mind free, so as to give up any hypothesis, however much beloved -- and I cannot resist forming one on every subject -- as soon as facts are shown to be opposed to it. -- Charles Darwin (1809-1882) The right to search for truth implies also a duty; one must not conceal any part of what one has recognized to be true. -- Albert Einstein As we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours, and this we should do freely and generously. -- Benjamin Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: via82cxxx_audio module
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 04:42:02PM +, Keith O'Connell wrote: > Hi, > > Normally I don't stray from stable. I am happy to be a little behind and > have it all work together nicely, however I recently got an Acer Aspire > 1300 laptop, and the hardware requirements were such that I needed > kernel 2.4.20. > > I downloaded the source and complied a kernel and it all worked > fine(ish). I am using the machine to write this mail. There were a few > problems, but the one I am really stuck on is sound. I know the correct > sound driver is via82cxxx_audio.o. I compile this as a module and there > are no errors generated, however when I try to load the module it > generates the following error message; > > "using /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/sound/via82cxxx_audio.o > /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/sound/via82cxxx_audio.o: unresolved > symbol ac97_probe_codec" I've had stuff like this from broken kernel-headers installations. The easy fix is ln -s /top/of/kernel/source/tree /usr/src/linux. Pigeon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Howto setup USB wireless card
Kent West wrote: I've got a new Sid box, with 2.4.20-686 kernel. It has a 3c905c ethernet card, and a USB wireless D-Link DWL-120 "card". The 3com card works fine (it's how I'm on the net now to send this email). I installed ftp.debian.org/pool/main/l/linux-wlan-ng/linux-wlan-ng_0.1.15-6_i386.deb and then did a "modprobe prism2_usb", and now usbview shows the dwl-120 as a prism2_usb device. I modified /etc/modutils/ linux-wlan-ng and commented out the "alias wlan0 prism2_pci" line and uncommented "alias wlan0 prism2_usb" and then ran "depmod" (which generated an "unresolved symbols" error relating to prism2_cs -- hopefully that won't affect me since I'm usb) followed by an "update-modules" (which also generated the same error). I then editted /etc/network/interfaces and added these two lines: auto wlan0 iface wlan0 inet dhcp Just for good measure I rebooted. Ooh; the machine locks up when trying to load the prism2_usb module during the boot process. Bad. So I unplugged the dwl-120 and rebooted (hard - ouch; thanks for ext3). Once back up, I plugged the dwl-120 back in, and the modules seemed to load fine (both p80211 and prism2_usb) automagically (via usbmgr and/or the new hardware detection package "discover", I reckon). Then I ran "/etc/init.d/networking restart", and got a "device not found" and other such errors. The 3com still works fine, but no IP for the dwl-120. When I looked at dmesg I got this: hub.c: new USB device 00:1f.2-1, assigned address 2 hfa384x_docmd: hfa384x_docmd:ctlx failure=REQ_TIMEOUT hfa384x_drvr_start: hfa384x_drvr_startcmd_initialize() failed, result=-5 prism2sta_ifstate: hfa384x_drvr_start() failed,result=-5 hfa384x_docmd: hfa384x_docmd:ctlx failure=REQ_TIMEOUT hfa384x_drvr_start: hfa384x_drvr_startcmd_initialize() failed, result=-5 prism2sta_ifstate: hfa384x_drvr_start() failed,result=-5 So my question: is there still some bug in the dwl-120 driver(s), or have I failed to configure something? Thanks! Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ALSA sound setup
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 10:43:25AM -0600, Larry Holish wrote: > On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 06:35:24PM -0500, Chris Mitchell wrote: > > > > I'm a bit stumped in my efforts to get ALSA sound working... > > (snip) > > Hmm... *PokePokeRummage* > > The relevant bit of my modules.conf sez: > > # --- ALSACONF verion 0.4.3b --- > > alias char-major-116 snd > > alias snd-card-0 snd-card-emu10k1 > > options snd-card-emu10k1 snd_index=0 snd_id=CARD_0 > > snd_dac_frame_size=128 snd_adc_frame_size=64 > > # --- END: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. --- > > > > which seems to be identical to what's listed on that page... with the > > addition of the "options" stuff at the end. > > I think you should be using 'snd-emu10k1', rather than > 'snd-card-emu10k1' here. See the note at the top of > /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/README.Debian. Hmm... My version of that document doesn't mention that, but it does sound familiar. Anyway, I tried it. Stopped alsa, edited /etc/alsa/modutils/0.9, replaced both occurrences (one alias and one in options), ran update-modules, checked the change had in fact taken effect in modules.conf, started alsa... no change. I wouldn't need to run that snddevices script again or anything before it'll take effect, would I? Thanks -Chris msg30846/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Certification
> Linux certifications (which is what you're probably most interested in, > since you're asking on this list) are still so new that they're not > well-known, the only one that seems to be widely known is RHCE because > Red Hat never misses an opportunity to mention it. How much a Linux > certification will help you really depends on where you're working (or > wanting to work). Here are my thoughts I am a small time consultant (one man show) and recently took the tests for CompTIA A+, Network+, and Linux+. Passed them all very easily. I did it mostly for a personal challenge, and for confidence, and a little for marketing my small consulting business. Makes me look good to clients :-) I like CompTIA because it is vendor neutral. I will not be chasing down any MS/Novell certs anytime soon. It does not make sense to me at this time. Linux is gaining momentum and that is why I wanted to get a Linux cert. I did alot of reading on the Linux certs. This is what I learned in a nutshell. CompTIA Linux+ is rather easy. Come on"I" passed it and you all have seen a few of my stupid, basic, newbie questions on this list. It is a test designed for evaluating basic Linux admin skills. Someone with about 6 months admin experience. I have about a year with Linux. http://www.comptia.org/certification/linux/default.asp LPI is a neat organization. http://www.lpi.org Non-profit and they depend alot on volunteer workers. If I had the time I would donate my time to this and to the Debian project. (just sent $100 to the SPI Debian project as I am able to give money but I do not have any time to donate right now) LPI is vendor neutral which is a bonus. It is also rather difficult and the pass/fail ratio is about 50% to 60%. (I could be wrong about that). You need to take 2 $100 tests to get Level 1 certified. Level 2 is now available but Level 3 has not been fully developed yet. (I think) I might go for this LPI Cert this year as it seems quite challenging. By the way, the O'Reilly book Linux LPI Certification in a Nutshell is a great book for learning all of the necessary fundamentals of Linux. It is not a book to just pass a test. It obviously sticks to the actual LPI objectives which focuses on true fundamentals of Linux. That is what I want to learn first and want to learn NOW. RHCE is very nice. It is not vendor neutral though. Everyone seems to know about this one so I won't go into detail. But it does look prestigious. I read a great article on Tech Republic about Linux certs. It says about what I mentioned above but the author made a great point that small business, the kind that I service, would not know the difference between RHCE, LPI, and/or Linux+. In the end he recommended Linux+ because it was fairly basic, easy, and the best value at only $100. So I took his advice. I am glad because I am slowly getting over my inferiority complex with Linux. The certification helps me with confidence. It feels good now that I am starting to get a clue with Linux. Andy http://www.firmanconsulting.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Motherboard with vid, sound, nic
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 08:00:34AM -0600, Steve Waterman wrote: > Looking for a good, stable all-in-one motherboard with a small form factor in > which all the components are supported. The board should have video, sound, > nic, modem, usb, etc. Hoping to build a small box with enough power to run > KDE3, multimedia, OpenOffice, et al, of course, with Debian as the > distribution. Any suggestions? > > Thanks > The mini-itx via c3 boards should suit. They make a very small boxen. http://www.mini-itx.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Solved] cfdisk not working!
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 11:55:21AM +0330, Aryan Ameri wrote: > On Thursday 13 February 2003 04:52, Michael West wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 01:55:30AM +0330, Aryan Ameri wrote: > > > Hi there: > > > > > > I want to repartition my hard disk, but when I try running cfdisk (and > > > yes, I am root), I get an error message saying: > > > > > > "Cannot create logFATAL ERROR: Bad logical partition 7: tended partitions > > > Press any key to exit cfdisk" > > > > What do you get when you try fdisk? > > well, fdisk did the job, but I can't figure out why cfdisk doesn't work. > > anyway, I now repartitioned, so the matter is over, atleast for a couple of > months, when I want to repartition it again! > I often find that cfdisk will not work when fdisk does. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sid & KDE 3.1
On Saturday 15 February 2003 1:39 am, Paul Johnson wrote: RSN. Some of the dependancies are filtering in already. I think at this point if you want it faster, grab a compiler and start building it yourself. Which is what I've been doing. I compiled it under RH8 and made the unfortunate deb-newbie mistake of thinking I could use those executables under Debian...that didn't work out well. Thus far, QT, arts, kdelibs, kdebase and kdenetworking have compiled w/o error. Jeff Elkins http://www.elkins.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where is kernel source?
On Sat, 2003-02-15 at 12:03, David Turetsky wrote: > Iÿm looking for the debian linux kernel source > > > > Apparently itÿs not kept at /usr/src/linux > > > > -- > > David Hi, I think you'll find the source is in /usr/src it'll be a file called something like 'kernel-source-2.4.20.tar.bz2' If you don't have the kernel source install you need to type 'apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.20' (change the version numbers to the one you want!!) you need to extract this file: ie. 'tar -jxvf kernel-source-2.4.20.tar.bz2' this will extract the source code into a directory called (in this example) 'kernel-source-2.4.20' you should then create a sym. link ie. 'ln -s kernel-source-2.4.20 linux' you can then change to /usr/src/linux and compile your new kernel! Bye, Duncan -- Duncan Baynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kde package dependencies broken (kde relies on everything?)
On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 03:08:03PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 11:45:10PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 03:38:34PM +0100, Jeff Elkins wrote: > > > How would one -uninstall- KDE in one fell swoop? > > > > Remove the basic libraries and watch the dependencies sort it out? > > Is there a case for introducing that kind of metapackage as well? > > The inverse of each existing metapackage, which everything depends on, > so it will do what you've just suggested, but it is more obvious > what package needs to be removed. aptitude's better at doing that kind of thing, I hear ... -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT Knoppix installation
On Friday 14 February 2003 09:17 am, stan wrote: > I have a new laptop, and I was planing on istalling Koppix to take advantge > of it's _great_ hardware auto detection, then merging back intot the Debain > mainstream. > > Problem is, I can't figure out how to actully install Knoppix. I have a > bootable CD (that was fun because of the size), and everythign works like a > charm when I boot from it, but I can't figure out how to get that image > onto the hard disk. > > One person has told me Knoppix is not intended to install. > > -- > "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve > neither liberty nor safety." > -- Benjamin Franklin After booting to Knoppix CD, find the root terminal in the menu. I believe at that point you type either./knx-hdinstall or just knx-hdinstall. -- Ken Thompson Payette, Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux- Coming Soon To A Desktop Near You Registered Linux User #183936 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: interpretting DHCP Client messages
This is a home network so all configuration issues with the access point are because I'm incompetent. ;) On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 06:10:14PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > | DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8 > > This is "hello, I'm alive, what address can I have?". Due to the lack > of offers, the broadcast is repeated. The interval is an attempt to > be nice to the network, in case it is temporarily congested or > something. Ok, in the DHCP tab on the browser configuration tool I've added: DNS 1: 192.168.1.105 (which is currently not being used by any of the three computers on the network). It had absolutely no effect (as far as I can see): Listening on LPF/eth0/00:00:e2:8d:22:8b Sending on LPF/eth0/00:00:e2:8d:22:8b Sending on Socket/fallback/fallback-net DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3 DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4 DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 9 DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 10 DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 10 DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12 DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 10 DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3 No DHCPOFFERS received. Trying recorded lease 192.168.1.100 PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1): 56 data bytes --- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics --- 1 packets transmitted, 1 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max = 2.9/2.9/2.9 ms SIOCADDRT: File exists bound: renewal in 22135 seconds. > o the DHCP server doesn't like you I'll save you from the story of how this is the third router we've had in as many months. /ahem/ We love this one though...it's a Linksys (the last two were D-link). It's one of those combo wired/wireless ones. > | Trying recorded lease 192.168.1.100 > | PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1): 56 data bytes > > Failing to get an offer, dhcp-client tries to see if the (expired!) > lease it had before still works. Yeah, the lease is 1 day by default or has to be set in minutes. > | --- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics --- > | 1 packets transmitted, 1 packets received, 0% packet loss > > That's more-or-less good, at least the network infrastructure (apart > from DHCP) works. I wonder why it tried pinging that address, since > it's a "private" address and often times doesn't exist on a given > network. It's a private network? Thanks for your help. emma -- Emma Jane Hogbin [[ 416 417 2868 ][ www.xtrinsic.com ]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ide aptapi tape drive installation
David Zuccaro wrote: Hi, How do I install an ide aptapi tape drive under debian? The tape drive is a seagate STT8000 (4/8gb) I have physically installed it. It works for the other os'es I have installed on this pc but I want to use it with debian. You need to install the ide-scsi module and a few other scsi things: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/SCSI-2.4-HOWTO/st.html ATAPI is scsi commands over an ATA(IDE) interface. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bbc emulator
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 12:48:14PM -0800, Craig Dickson wrote:
> Vineet Kumar wrote:
>
> > * Caoilte O'Connor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030214 03:46]:
> > > Hey All,
> > > I have a hankering for a bbc emulator, but was a bit shocked to just
> > > realise that there isn't one in sid.
> >
> > ] 2 definitions found
> > ]
> > ] From The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing (09 FEB 02) [foldoc]:
> > ]
> > ] BBC
> > ]
> > ] {British Broadcasting Corporation}
> >
> > Well, surely that' can't be right.
> >
> > ]
> > ]
> > ]
> > ] From V.E.R.A. -- Virtual Entity of Relevant Acronyms December 2001 [vera]:
> > ]
> > ] BBC
> > ] Broadband Bearer Capability (B-ISDN)
> >
> > That I don't quite understand. Is that what you mean?
>
> I think he's referring to a 1980s British-made microcomputer
> colloquially called "BBC". I don't recall offhand what its real name
> was.
It was called the BBC Microcomputer; it was made by Acorn and
sponsored or something by the BBC, as an educational thing. Schools
got grants to buy either BBCs or RM 380Zs - nobody bought the RM. It
used a 6502, and had an interface to hook up second processor units;
you could get a faster 6502, a Z80 or a 32016 32-bit chip. Apart from
being a bit short of program memory when you used hi-res graphics
modes, the BBC was the absolute dog's bollocks of home micros. It was
the only one to have any approximation to a real operating system as
opposed to a BASIC interpreter and very little else.
Pigeon
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Re: kde package dependencies broken (kde relies on everything?)
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 11:45:10PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 03:38:34PM +0100, Jeff Elkins wrote: > > > > How would one -uninstall- KDE in one fell swoop? > > Remove the basic libraries and watch the dependencies sort it out? Is there a case for introducing that kind of metapackage as well? The inverse of each existing metapackage, which everything depends on, so it will do what you've just suggested, but it is more obvious what package needs to be removed. I guess there would be difficulties with packages that _can_ be used with KDE but don't have to. Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to mount CDROM and CDRW?
Nicos Gollan wrote: On Friday 14 February 2003 19:09, Carlos Jiménez wrote: I just installed Debian woody and i've had problems to mount the CDROM (hdb) and the CDRW (hdd). In the fstab file appears the following: /dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 Does it mean that CDROM is mounted? Shouldn't the mount point be in /mnt/? And if it wasn't mounted, how do i mount it? You mount it with 'mount /cdrom'. What this line does is: - mount the device /dev/cdrom (should be a link to /dev/hdb) - to /cdrom - with filesystem type iso9660 - read-only, mountable by any user, not automatically at boot If you want to access the second drive in a similar way, just add another line like this one with /dev/hdd as the device and another mountpoint (perhaps /cdrom2 or /mnt/cdrw or whatever, just remember to create the directory). To make the CDRW writeable, you should read the CD writer how-tos, and maybe a scsi how-to. ATAPI CD writers need ide-scsi and a couple of other things installed, because ATAPI is scsi commands over an ATA(IDE) bus. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Where is kernel source?
David Turetsky said: > I'm looking for the debian linux kernel source > Apparently it's not kept at /usr/src/linux Nate said: >apt-cache search kernel-source-`uname -r` > >or just apt-cache search kernel-source >once you find the package you want, apt-get install it, >I think that will create a .tar.bz2 file in /usr/src which >you can extract to get the source. Yup, from what I remember it creats a .tar.bz2 file, untar it etc and it should create a sub folder under /usr/src/linux Dave -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: interpretting DHCP Client messages
Emma writes: > I'm curious to know what's actually happening when I pull up my > wireless ethernet connection. Below is what I do and then what I > see. I don't understand what the DHCPOFFERS received means. This > seems to be the longest part of the connection. Hi Emma, This is from http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2131.txt and while I was going to paraphrase it, a hefty copy and paste seems best: The following summary of the protocol exchanges between clients and servers refers to the DHCP messages described in table 2. The timeline diagram in figure 3 shows the timing relationships in a typical client-server interaction. If the client already knows its address, some steps may be omitted; this abbreviated interaction is described in section 3.2. 1. The client broadcasts a DHCPDISCOVER message on its local physical subnet. The DHCPDISCOVER message MAY include options that suggest values for the network address and lease duration. BOOTP relay agents may pass the message on to DHCP servers not on the same physical subnet. 2. Each server may respond with a DHCPOFFER message that includes an available network address in the 'yiaddr' field (and other configuration parameters in DHCP options). Servers need not reserve the offered network address, although the protocol will work more efficiently if the server avoids allocating the offered network address to another client. When allocating a new address, servers SHOULD check that the offered network address is not already in use; e.g., the server may probe the offered address with an ICMP Echo Request. Servers SHOULD be implemented so that network administrators MAY choose to disable probes of newly allocated addresses. The server transmits the DHCPOFFER message to the client, using the BOOTP relay agent if necessary. Table 2: DHCP messages Message Use --- --- DHCPDISCOVER - Client broadcast to locate available servers. DHCPOFFER- Server to client in response to DHCPDISCOVER with offer of configuration parameters. DHCPREQUEST - Client message to servers either (a) requesting offered parameters from one server and implicitly declining offers from all others, (b) confirming correctness of previously allocated address after, e.g., system reboot, or (c) extending the lease on a particular network address. DHCPACK - Server to client with configuration parameters, including committed network address. DHCPNAK - Server to client indicating client's notion of network address is incorrect (e.g., client has moved to new subnet) or client's lease as expired DHCPDECLINE - Client to server indicating network address is already in use. DHCPRELEASE - Client to server relinquishing network address and cancelling remaining lease. DHCPINFORM - Client to server, asking only for local configuration parameters; client already has externally configured network address. Figure 3: Timeline diagram of messages exchanged between DHCP client and servers when allocating a new network address Server Client Server (not selected)(selected) v v v | | | | Begins initialization | | | | | _/|\ | |/DHCPDISCOVER | DHCPDISCOVER \| | | | Determines | Determines configuration| configuration | | | |\ | / | | \| /DHCPOFFER | | DHCPOFFER\ |/ | | \ || | Collects replies| | \|| | Selects configuration | | | | | _/|\ | |/ DHCPREQUEST | DHCPREQUEST\ | | | | | | Commits configuration | | | | | _/| | |/ DHCPACK | | | | |Initialization complete| |
Re: Where is kernel source?
David Turetsky said: > I'm looking for the debian linux kernel source > > > > Apparently it's not kept at /usr/src/linux apt-cache search kernel-source-`uname -r` or just apt-cache search kernel-source once you find the package you want, apt-get install it, I think that will create a .tar.bz2 file in /usr/src which you can extract to get the source. nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hardware IDE ATA Raid 1 support in Linux Debian - Linux disapointment
Thanks for you msg. What i'd like to would be to use hardware raid, i'm used to Compaq (HPAQ) servers whith smart array controller i thought i would get the same kind of functionality (limited to raid 0 and 1) on this ide controller. I guess i'll toss out this controller and use the onboard ide controller (1 disk on each channel as i have a SCSI CD-Rom). Maybe i keep the controller just to try with a newer kernel. Guess Debian is out of hardware manufacturers linux distro list. I understand the difficulty to make a "for Linux" driver, and hope that LSB get's more attention in order to easy this Linux difficulties which M$ doesn't have. >-- >Got Backup? OOoops,...nnoope.. Thanks again Pedro Ruivo -Mensagem original- De: Nicos Gollan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Enviada: sexta-feira, 14 de Fevereiro de 2003 17:53 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Assunto: Re: Hardware IDE ATA Raid 1 support in Linux Debian - Linux disapointment > Can someone tell me if it's possible, and how, to build a fault > tolerant (RAID1) system with this IDE controller. Has anyone got it to work > under Debian ? You could always use the controller as simple IDE controller using standard kernel drivers and build software RAID. For RAID 0 and 1 this usually produces a very minimal performance hit. You have to jump through some loops in order to make it bootable though. For information about that, here's a page that helped me set up a simple RAID1: http://unthought.net/Software-RAID.HOWTO/Software-RAID.HOWTO.html There are native Highpoint RAID drivers in kernel 2.4.20 (IDE, ATA and ATAPI Block devices -> Support for IDE Raid controllers), but I don't know how well those work. > I have to say one other thing, wich is the disappointmento with > linux in this concern, shouldn't there be "a Linux Driver" ? > I find drivers for Red Hat, Suse, Turbo, ... Linux but not for > Debian and specially not a "for Linux" Driver. Building drivers for specific distributions is usually easier that producing closed source "Linux drivers". When you write driver for, let's say RedHat 8.1, you know what kernel is installed and where to put config stuff. That's a lot more difficult with Linux in general since it's an uncontrolled battlefield. The LSB was supposed to make this easier, but... well... no. If you want a well-designed system, use *BSD. -- Got Backup? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Ruivo;Pedro FN:Pedro Ruivo (TRQV-DSI) ORG:Tranquilidade Vida EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:20020527T164102Z END:VCARD
Where is kernel source?
I’m looking for the debian linux kernel source Apparently it’s not kept at /usr/src/linux -- David
RE: Emacs Key Bindings
> -Original Message- > From: Bob Hilliard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 12:15 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Emacs Key Bindings > > > I like to indent the first line of each paragraph. By default, > emacs (in text mode) considers only blank lines and page delimiters as > paragraph delimiters, and binds the TAB key to "indent-relative". To > change this, I have the following lines in .emacs: > > (setq default-major-mode 'paragraph-indent-text-mode ) > (add-hook 'paragraph-indent-text-mode-hook `local-set-key "\t" > `tab-to-tab-sto > p) Try: (add-hook 'paragraph-indent-text-mode-hook (lambda () (local-set-key "\t" `tab-to-tab-stop))) It looks like you incorrectly copied someone who did the equally valid: (defun my-paragraph-indent-text-mode-hook () (set-blah blah)) (add-hook 'paragraph-indent-text-mode-hook 'my-paragraph-indent-text-mode-hook) This latter techinque is a bit better since you can use your hook later if you need it in a different mode. It also makes it easier to tweak things without restarting emacs, since then you just need to redefine the function rather than trying to replace your lambda in the hook list. Happy trails. Charlie. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No sound from kde
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 11:00:06PM +0100, Willem-Jan Meijer wrote: > /usr/bin/artsd: error while loading shared libraries: libvorbisfile.so.0: > cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory baloo@ursine:~$ apt-file search libvorbisfile.so.0 libvorbis0: usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so.0 libvorbis0: usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so.0.2.0 Hmm, looks like you need to install libvorbis0... -- .''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than to fix a system msg30827/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: PCI graphics cards recommendations
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 07:03:08PM +, Jonathan Matthews wrote: > FWIW I'm running X4.2, with a 15" CRT and a K6-III/550Mhz. > I'd be looking to try Quake I/II/III (or as far as the K6 will let me > go), and general desktoppy stuff. I'd like to have the facility to run You won't be running Quake II, or at least at a comfortable framerate, on a PCI graphics adapter. You won't be doing Quake III at all. -- .''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than to fix a system msg30826/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Deb-List Subject Line Tag?
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 03:15:50PM -0500, Levi Waldron wrote: > Even PINE has built-in filtering capabilities, and threading. Yikes! Try leaving for a week and watching Pine try opening debian-user... -- .''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than to fix a system msg30825/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mounting sound cdroms
"Paul" == Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Paul> On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 12:29:40AM -0800, Joris Huizer Paul> wrote: >> - mounting manually, won't work - I get: mount: wrong fs type, >> bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc, or too many mounted >> file systems Paul> You cannot mount an audio CD. Can you play it when you just Paul> press play on the front of the CDROM? If not, is it a Paul> "copy-protected" CD? In general, you are correct. However take a look at cdfs, which is distributed as the cdfs-src package in Woody. I've never used it, but it is supposed to allow you to mount an audio CD and look at the tracks as if they were on a file system. Cheers! Shyamal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Certification
On Friday 14 February 2003 19:17, Arthur H. Johnson II wrote: > Don't forget about LPI. It's pretty decent, and alot of employers know it > pretty well. Really? I did find LPI on a Google of "debian certification" - not that they offered Debian certification. The price seemed reasonable - $100. Don't know if I got that right though. Is this a "paper cert"? What's the other kind of cert - build an enterprise system from scraps heaped in a corner? -- Mike M. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how the fuck do I unsubscribe
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 10:48:16AM -0500, Mike M wrote: > On Friday 14 February 2003 02:18, Kenward Vaughan wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 10:01:08AM +1100, Joyce, Matthew wrote: > > > You cannot unsubscribe. Noone can. Why would you want to anyway ? > > > > His continued resistance is futile. He has been assimilated. > > > > munch, munch... > > The dissimilated are never heard from again are they? So there's no actual > proof of being dissimilated. > > I have several indentities. Sometimes I mismanage them like this: send > subscribe from one identity and reply using another identity. Depending on > how rigid the automated attendent for the mail list is, this could cause > frustration on the part of the human unaware of the error. I fixed this > problem to a large extent by associating a mail folder with a mail list and > an identity. I use Kmail. I am still able screw things up but I have to > work harder at it. I can easily understand things getting screwed up for someone on a list trying to get off. But Matthew's line had me chuckling hard, and my response was really to that instead of questioning the ability to unsubscribe. (My apologies to the original poster if misunderstood.) Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sid & KDE 3.1
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 04:30:44PM +0100, Jeff Elkins wrote: > Has there been any word on when Sid will have KDE 3.1? RSN. Some of the dependancies are filtering in already. I think at this point if you want it faster, grab a compiler and start building it yourself. -- .''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than to fix a system msg30821/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Upgrade to Sid by apt
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 06:19:43PM +0100, Willem-Jan Meijer wrote: > I want to upgrade to sid, is there a rule for sources.lists? Basically change where it says "stable" or "testing" to "unstable". Just a word of warning, though, if you use KDE or Gnome, now is *not* a good time to switch to Sid. -- .''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than to fix a system msg30820/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Certification
On Friday 14 February 2003 18:07, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > on Fri, 14 Feb 2003 04:30:40PM -0500, Mike M insinuated: > > I saw a post on the French debian user list where someone suggested > > using the number of your Debian user list posts as your > > certification rating. Clever. > > dude, on my end, that would only rate my curiosity / # of things i > break! ;) curiosity == working brain more broken things = f(more trying) economy is definitely in the crapper; will code for food :-); chasing certs for jobs seems like an enrichment program for certification bodies; -- Mike M. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ide aptapi tape drive installation
Hi, How do I install an ide aptapi tape drive under debian? The tape drive is a seagate STT8000 (4/8gb) I have physically installed it. It works for the other os'es I have installed on this pc but I want to use it with debian. Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mounting sound cdroms
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 11:05:11AM -0800, Joris Huizer wrote: > You mean, when inserting in a normal cd player ? it > just goes on and plays everything. > (The computer cd player doesn't have a play button) Wow, cheapass CDROM. > cdparanoia -v -B just gives a lot of messages with > lots of /dev/ dirs I don't know much about - I > attached a copy of the stuff I get Why not tell it what device your CDROM is so it doesn't have to go looking for it? -- .''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than to fix a system msg30817/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Certification
Don't forget about LPI. It's pretty decent, and alot of employers know it pretty well. -- Arthur H. Johnson II, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems Engineer, The Linux Box Debian GNU/Linux Advocate AIM: bytor4232 IRC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Michael Heironimus wrote: > On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 11:04:33AM -0500, Mike M wrote: > > Certification is for PHBs only. Right? Is there any evidence other than > > marketing blather that certification is a worthwhile endeavor? > > Depends on the certification. Some carry significantly more weight than > others. And you should also remember that PHBs often set your pay and > budget, so appeasing them now and again isn't a bad idea. In the end, a > certification mainly shows that you were able to demonstrate some > knowledge in a specific field once, it doesn't really say anything about > the future. I would put the average certification above a CS degree, but > it seems like the average fresh CS graduate these days isn't even > qualified to use a computer, let alone run or program one. > > For MCSE, yes, your statement is true. Most of the people I've known and > worked with who really knew NT well did not have an MCSE. The same goes > for A+ PC hardware certification. Novell certification is just a joke > now because there were too many classes that just taught the tests. > > At the complete opposite end of the spectrum are the Cisco > certifications. Some of their higher-level certifications are very > difficult and very expensive to get, so if you have one it really will > set you apart from other people in networking. Sun, IBM, and HP > certifications are meaningful, but not as difficult as Cisco's are. > > Linux certifications (which is what you're probably most interested in, > since you're asking on this list) are still so new that they're not > well-known, the only one that seems to be widely known is RHCE because > Red Hat never misses an opportunity to mention it. How much a Linux > certification will help you really depends on where you're working (or > wanting to work). > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT Knoppix installation
There is a hardware autodetection package in debian. Its called discover. It works very good. -- Arthur H. Johnson II, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Advocate AIM: bytor4232 IRC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, stan wrote: > I have a new laptop, and I was planing on istalling Koppix to take advantge > of it's _great_ hardware auto detection, then merging back intot the Debain > mainstream. > > Problem is, I can't figure out how to actully install Knoppix. I have a > bootable CD (that was fun because of the size), and everythign works like a > charm when I boot from it, but I can't figure out how to get that image > onto the hard disk. > > One person has told me Knoppix is not intended to install. > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emacs Key Bindings
I like to indent the first line of each paragraph. By default, emacs (in text mode) considers only blank lines and page delimiters as paragraph delimiters, and binds the TAB key to "indent-relative". To change this, I have the following lines in .emacs: (setq default-major-mode 'paragraph-indent-text-mode ) (add-hook 'paragraph-indent-text-mode-hook `local-set-key "\t" `tab-to-tab-sto p) When I open a text file in emacs, I find my major mode is (correctly) paragraph-indent-text-mode, but the TAB key is still bound to "indent relative". I can, of course, manually bind TAB to tab-to-tab-stop, but this gets old fast. Composing messages in Gnus is even worse. Gnus now uses Message-mode for composition, which apparently doesn't honor either message-mode-hook or text-mode-hook, so I must manually change to paragraph-indent-text-mode, and then re-bind the TAB key. Of course, then I have to switch back to message mode before I can send the message. Any suggestions for .emacs lines to solve this problem? I am using emacs21 21.2-5, and gnus 5.9.0015-1, but emacs behavior, in this respect, has been the same since the first release of emacs20. Regards. Bob -- _ |_) _ |_Robert D. Hilliard<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |_) (_) |_) 1294 S.W. Seagull Way <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Palm City, FL 34990 USA GPG Key ID: 390D6559 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: howto update automatically
Joris Huizer said: > Hello everybody, > > I'd like to know wether & how I could keep the Debian > installation up to date - and using stable progs at > the same time. check /etc/apt/sources.list and be sure you have some http or ftp mirrors in there for the various sites, for updates ONLY depending on how paranoid you are you may want to stick to just security.debian.org, then when you see news of a new point release(e.g. 3.0r2) un-comment the other lines and update/upgrade. I think when 2.2r6 came out I freaked out because one system was upgrading a buncha stuff and I had not seen any announcement of the new point release at the time. my /etc/apt/sources.list: deb ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib deb-src ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free the typical upgrade procedure: apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade if you want to do it unattended I reccomend something like: apt-get update ; apt-get -d upgrade then when your at the system run the apt-get upgrade (the -d tells it to only download). Even on debian I don't reccomend running unattended package installs, I've been bitten by at least one really nasty problem when trying an unattended package upgrade (it was upgrading SSH, which stopped SSH first then errored out, preventing any remote access to the machine, luckily I discovered it while running it on a local machine before trying it on a remote machine, I was playing with an auto update script I had written to upgrade about 30 machines). > Can anybody tell me what a could way could be to keep > up to date ? > And, are there many changes on the stable branche or > is it more or less, eh, stable ? it is very stable. for some it's too stable so they use a mix of testing, or move to testing or unstable. I personally don't anticipate myself needing to move to testing anytime soon, stable provides everything I need, with the exception of a couple perl things which I recompile from testing. Debian is by far the most "stable" distribution I've used to-date. it's stable and predictable enough that on tuesday I was able to talk a system admin from my former company through a dist-upgrade from 2.2 to 3.0(there was some troubles upgrading cyrus, and the sendmail I had on that server was severely hacked up, and the webmail stuff broke on the upgrade). Took about an hour for everything, real simple and the box was back to normal. He was suprised when I told him not to reboot for upgrading to 3.0. I think that was either the last, or the 2nd to last 2.2 debian box that company has left. nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kde package dependencies broken (kde relies on everything?)
On Saturday 15 February 2003 12:10 am, Michael P. Soulier wrote: If apt is working properly, you should be able to remove a base package that all of kde depends on. apt-get --purge remove kdebase Thanks Mike! Jeff Elkins http://www.elkins.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian mailing list archive in mbox format
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 04:00:02PM -0600, Drew Scott Daniels wrote: > Is it possible to get mailing list archive messages in mbox format? They're stored on master.debian.org in one-per-month mbox format, but as far as I can tell not exported. A wishlist bug on listarchives might be in order, if there isn't one there already. > Having an mbox formatted file for each message in the mailing list archive > would be my preference. This again is probably a wishlist bug against the > mail archiving software. If a bug needs to be filed on this, it would > probably be useful for package developer(s) to be informed on who worked > on the BTS mbox features. The primary listarchives maintainer is also a BTS maintainer so knows about this already, but (speaking as another BTS maintainer) the BTS mbox code will not be useful for lists.debian.org. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kde package dependencies broken (kde relies on everything?)
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 03:38:34PM +0100, Jeff Elkins wrote: > On Friday 14 February 2003 4:21 pm, Michel Loos wrote: > >The kde Package is a metapackage which allows you to install all of kde > >with 1 apt-get. But KDE works fine without the package kde. > > How would one -uninstall- KDE in one fell swoop? Remove the basic libraries and watch the dependencies sort it out? -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
compiling modules-scyld-source
Hi, I have a cheap RLT 8139 card that works with kernel-2.2.20 and the rtl8139 module, but it won't with the 2.4.20 kernel and the 8139too module (locks up the machine when I do an insmod 8139too). I saw that there is a modules-scyld-source (which I downloaded) that contains the rtl8139.c and a makefile. The makefile in question has some magic for determining the location of modversions.h and other needed include files that need to be modified. I am unsure of what is the proper way to setup the compilation enviroment. I have downloaded the kernel-headers-2.4.20 and the kernel-source-2.4.20 and need to figure how the Debian way for compiling the contents of modules-scyld-source. Do I need to recompile the kernel or can I just get away with compiling the modules that I am interested in. What is the proper way to set up the symlinks for /usr/src/linux? Thanks, John Schmidt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Broken Symbolic Links in /etc/alternatives
"Colin" == Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Colin> On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 08:49:17PM +0100, Yuhanes Tjandra Colin> wrote: >> I just removed and purged emacs21 and emacsen-common since I >> didn't use it. Looking at the folder /etc/alternatives, I find >> out that there is broken symbolic link which is linked emacs21. >> >> Is that a normal behaviour that symbolic links in this folder >> aren't removed although the packages are already removed and >> purged? Colin> No, it's a bug. Even if the link in question was in "manual mode"? Curious /Shyamal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hardware IDE ATA Raid 1 support in Linux Debian - Linux disapointment
On 14 Feb 03 15:39:11 GMT, Pedro Ruivo TRQV-DSI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have to say one other thing, wich is the disappointmento with linux > in this concern, shouldn't there be "a Linux Driver" ? > I find drivers for Red Hat, Suse, Turbo, ... Linux but not for > Debian and specially not a "for Linux" Driver. Save your disappointment for the hardware manufacturer. They are the ones making you jump through hoops, not "Linux". GNU/Linux is a *free* operating system and it barely tolerates non-free binary-only drivers. Even so it is clearly possible to write such drivers in ways that don't tie them to specific kernel versions and specific distributions; the NVidia video card drivers are an example. If the manufacturer chooses not to properly support its products under GNU/Linux then you are better taking your business to a manufacturer that does. -- Frank Copeland Home Page: http://thingy.apana.org.au/~fjc/> Not the Scientology Home Page: http://xenu.apana.org.au/ntshp/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fetchmailrc--parse error
"Gary" == Gary Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Gary> Thanks to Shyamal Prasad for noticing the syntax error in Gary> the config. I wish he had noticed the dot com thing too :) I guess I was not using "the same pop server as you" ;-) I just caught up with this thread, was out of town in minus twenty something degree weather (centigrade, Fahrenheit.take your pick). Cheers! Shyamal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
freeamp problems ?
Is anyone else having problems with freeamp ? I love its user interface but it seems to lock up a lot on my machine PIII 700Mhz, debian woody. I can select a ogg file AOK, it plays AOK but oftern the GUI seems to die, I can move the sliders, select buttons but zip happens. The music continues but I am not in control ! Even the x does not kill the application, I have to ctrl-alt-esc & kill it. Has anyone else had these problems ? Is there a work around ? /var/log/messages & syslog report nothing. Any ideas ? Dave -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: interpretting DHCP Client messages
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 04:19:36PM -0500, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote: | Hey all: | | I'm curious to know what's actually happening when I pull up my wireless | ethernet connection. Below is what I do and then what I see. I don't | understand what the DHCPOFFERS received means. This seems to be the | longest part of the connection. Is there a way to optomize this so that it | takes less time? Yeah, fix the network :-). | DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 | DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 This is basically "give me address X.X.X.X, please". It was sent twice because no server offered the address the first time. | DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7 | DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7 | DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 10 | DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8 | DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 10 | DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11 | DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8 This is "hello, I'm alive, what address can I have?". Due to the lack of offers, the broadcast is repeated. The interval is an attempt to be nice to the network, in case it is temporarily congested or something. | No DHCPOFFERS received. This is bad. No offers means one (or more) of the following : o no network connection between you and other nodes on the subnet o no DHCP server on the subnet o the DHCP server has no available leases to offer to you o the DHCP server doesn't like you | Trying recorded lease 192.168.1.100 | PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1): 56 data bytes Failing to get an offer, dhcp-client tries to see if the (expired!) lease it had before still works. | --- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics --- | 1 packets transmitted, 1 packets received, 0% packet loss That's more-or-less good, at least the network infrastructure (apart from DHCP) works. I wonder why it tried pinging that address, since it's a "private" address and often times doesn't exist on a given network. I'd check the DHCP server and see what is wrong with it. In a home environment you shouldn't be running out of leases (though one of the labs at school has half of the jacks on a subnet with no available leases). -D -- No harm befalls the righteous, but the wicked have their fill of trouble. Proverbs 12:21 http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/ msg30804/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kde package dependencies broken (kde relies on everything?)
On 14/02/03 Jeff Elkins did speaketh: > How would one -uninstall- KDE in one fell swoop? Surely, you don't have to > apt-get remove each package? If apt is working properly, you should be able to remove a base package that all of kde depends on. apt-get --purge remove kdebase something like that... I find that functionality invaluable. If it ever breaks, I might as well be on RedHat *shudder*. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, GnuPG pub key: 5BC8BE08 "...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount of nerd-like effort." -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to Unix HTML Email Considered Harmful: http://expita.com/nomime.html msg30803/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Certification
on Fri, 14 Feb 2003 04:30:40PM -0500, Mike M insinuated: > I saw a post on the French debian user list where someone suggested > using the number of your Debian user list posts as your > certification rating. Clever. dude, on my end, that would only rate my curiosity / # of things i break! ;) -- .~. nori @ sccs.swarthmore.edu /V\ http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/~nori/jnl/ // \\ @ maenad.net /( )\ www.maenad.net ^`~'^ pgp servers broken: get my (*new*) key here: http://www.maenad.net/geek/gpg/7ede5499.asc msg30802/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
cron won't activate changes
Hi all. I need to block an (internal) ip-address a few hours a day. I added iptables -I FORWARD -s -j DROP to iptables. Works perfectly. However when I add this to cron it keeps saying (cron) 'installed succesfully' but is won't do that job. I added it in /etc/crontab (as root, using crontab -e) and added the line 0 23 * * * root iptables -I FORWARD -s -j DROP I use kernel 2.4.18 Fooks, where am I missing the point? Why it won't edit the firewall at 23:00hrs?? Anyone? Thanks in advance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3? or 4?
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Bill Webster wrote: > My laptop was running KDE3 from unstable. About 3 days ago I did an > upgrade that upgraded it to what appears to be a partial upgrade to > version 4. But in the process it removed something that is needed in <...> > Does anyone have any idea what might be going on? No. There is no KDE4 yet, KDE3 uses kdelibs4 though. You will need to be more specific about what you are seeing. - Bruce -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Certification
on Fri, 14 Feb 2003 01:17:09PM -0600, Michael Heironimus insinuated: > On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 11:04:33AM -0500, Mike M wrote: > > Certification is for PHBs only. Right? Is there any evidence > > other than marketing blather that certification is a worthwhile > > endeavor? > > Depends on the certification. Some carry significantly more weight > than others. And you should also remember that PHBs often set your > pay and budget, so appeasing them now and again isn't a bad idea. In > the end, a certification mainly shows that you were able to > demonstrate some knowledge in a specific field once, it doesn't > really say anything about the future. I would put the average > certification above a CS degree, but it seems like the average fresh > CS graduate these days isn't even qualified to use a computer, let > alone run or program one. wow, that better not be the general opinion on the market out there, or i'll *never* find a job!! -- .~. nori @ sccs.swarthmore.edu /V\ http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/~nori/jnl/ // \\ @ maenad.net /( )\ www.maenad.net ^`~'^ pgp servers broken: get my (*new*) key here: http://www.maenad.net/geek/gpg/7ede5499.asc msg30799/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Newbie Installation Problems
If I understand your problem correctly, this might help: log in with regular user name su (enter root's password) cat /etc/gdm/gdm.conf Look through the list for 'AllowRoot=_' If it says 'false', run an editor and change it to 'true'. Then save. Alex Rowland Fellows wrote: I am able to install 3.0 successfully from the disk images I've downloaded from Oregon State. However, once installed, the system goes directly into a login screen from which I cannot login into root. How to I get the system to boot in such a way that I can log in as root? Rowland Fellows 112 Feather Falls Circle Folsom, CA 95630 (916) 987-1670 (916) 768-9394 cell (707) 276-0849 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
procmail out of memory
anyone seen this before? i just got a blank message at the top of my inbox, dated Jan 01 (that's all -- no headers, no nothing), and checking the procmail logs, i see: Out of memory! Callback called exit. END failed--call queue aborted at /usr/bin/spamassassin line 50. huh. extraordinarily weird. thanks, -- .~. nori @ sccs.swarthmore.edu /V\ http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/~nori/jnl/ // \\ @ maenad.net /( )\ www.maenad.net ^`~'^ pgp servers broken: get my (*new*) key here: http://www.maenad.net/geek/gpg/7ede5499.asc msg30797/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kde package dependencies broken (kde relies on everything?)
Jeff Elkins writes: > How would one -uninstall- KDE in one fell swoop? Surely, you don't have > to apt-get remove each package? Unfortunately, yes (though the dependency list in the KDE package will tell you what to remove). -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: maildir
* john gennard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030214 11:44]: > I run Woody and use getmail to pull email into mboxes. > The latest release of getmail supports only maildirs, so > I need to get use to them. Getmail 2.x (which are in woody, testing, and unstable) supports maildir, mbox, or even piping off to an MDA. It does look like as of version 3.x they've dropped mbox support, but the pipe delivery still exists. That's not to say you shouldn't use maildir, though; it's probably the most reliable delivery method. > I've recently installed Knoppix which seems a good second > operating system to use for experimentation and now to > learn about maildirs. > > But I'm thoroughly confused:- > Woody reacts to the command maildirmake and has its manpage. > It doesn't have a manpage for maildir (but I've got one off > the net). I can't trace any installed package which obviously > provides maildir. maildirmake is provided in the maildrop package. It's also in courier-base. > Knoppix does not mention maildir in any way - which is > surprising given that the install put 2 gig on my hard drive. > > Would someone please explain where maildir is etc, and perhaps > point to some examples of using the command. By 'the command', I assume you mean /usr/bin/maildirmake. Is the manpage insufficient? Oh, you mean on the Knoppix install. 'apt-get install maildrop'. Then man maildirmake. good times, Vineet -- http://www.doorstop.net/ -- One nation, indivisible, with equality, liberty, and justice for all. msg30795/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: KDE 3? or 4?
Bill Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am having a problem and I am wondering if someone out there is having > the same problem or can explain what is going on. > > My laptop was running KDE3 from unstable. About 3 days ago I did an > upgrade that upgraded it to what appears to be a partial upgrade to > version 4. KDE 3 only appeared in the archives recently. If you were really using KDE from unstable, it was KDE 2. > But in the process it removed something that is needed in order to > work properly. Now I can not get a desktop, nor can I reinstall KDE3, > unstable repository seems to be missing some packages. I am unable to > get any version of KDE from anywhere to install. I could easily be > doing something wrong but everything was working great 3 days ago. > > Does anyone have any idea what might be going on? You're probably confused by the fact that kdelibs4 are the kdelibs for KDE 3. There is no KDE version 4 yet. As for the missing packages (kdenetwork and kdepim, I think), they should appear in the archives in the next few days. You'll also need to remove libfam0 and anything depending on it before you can install the new KDE. -- On a scale of 1 to 10? It sucked. msg30794/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
howto update automatically
Hello everybody, I'd like to know wether & how I could keep the Debian installation up to date - and using stable progs at the same time. I had a quick look at the man page of autoupdate but I can't really tell what it's really doing - it just says a bit on changing a configure file I don't know about ... Can anybody tell me what a could way could be to keep up to date ? And, are there many changes on the stable branche or is it more or less, eh, stable ? Thanks for any help, Joris Huizer __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
debian mailing list archive in mbox format
Is it possible to get mailing list archive messages in mbox format? My primary reason is being able to select archived messages online and reply to them with the correct Reference, Mail-followup-to and other headers being automatically set correctly in my e-mail client. I know that I'd probably have to download the entire month, but that still might be better than being subscribed... I remember reading about debian-private being available on some developer only server in mbox format. That information being accurate, then the other lists may exist there too, but only accessible to developers. Recently a feature was added to the Debian BTS that allows users to get bugs in mbox format. I don't know if this is useful related information. It'd be really nice if I only had to click a link and have everything get set (if possible). That would be a wishlist bug against the mail archiving software and it may not be possible to setup properly. This option would not work for those who don't have their e-mail client of choice linked to their web browser of choice. Having an e-mail list gateway with an online e-mail client (like mailto) might work too, but then there are security issues like faked mail-followup-to values. Having an mbox formatted file for each message in the mailing list archive would be my preference. This again is probably a wishlist bug against the mail archiving software. If a bug needs to be filed on this, it would probably be useful for package developer(s) to be informed on who worked on the BTS mbox features. If I hear of no better solution and there is no appropriately filed bug, Then I will file a bug. Drew Daniels -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No sound from kde
Hello, After my upgrade to testing/unstable everything still works fine except my KDE sound. Tried XMMS, this one works fine but there aren't sounds from KDE. When I go to the shell and run commands with arts in it, I still get the message: /usr/bin/artsd: error while loading shared libraries: libvorbisfile.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory How can I solve this one? I searched with apt-cache and dselect, the libvorbis packages are installed correcly (i think). Is the arts sound system not working with the unstable/testing? If it works, whats the way to solve this? Kind regards, Willem-Jan Meijer -- Computers are like airconditioning...they are useless when you open windows !! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dselect --multi cd Install from a CD-ROM set
On February 14, 2003 02:56 pm, alex wrote: > I'll be installing Debian on another computer and would > like to have the 'multi cd Install from a CD-ROM set' to > make things easier. How can I add this option to my > dselect access menu? As root, just type "apt-cdrom add" for each cd while it is in the drive. Then dselect will prompt you for the correct cd whenever it needs it. There is another way with the package dpkg-multicd but this way is much easier. -- -Levi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Installation Problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Freitag, 14. Februar 2003 16:25 schrieb Rowland Fellows: > I am able to install 3.0 successfully from the disk images I've > downloaded from Oregon State. However, once installed, the system goes > directly into a login screen from which I cannot login into root. How > to I get the system to boot in such a way that I can log in as root? Hi, Is it a graphical login? If yes try hitting CTRL-ALT-F1, so you get an text login screen. There you should be able to login as root. (if you dont forgot your root password ;o) Robert -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE+TTZAILH3kR/OabQRAjeZAKCSd1+pX7lUn+F78yarGUvKnrTxwwCeNc1H ixWaGciLGvR6xrMf6m/r57M= =Jwsy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sid & KDE 3.1
Has there been any word on when Sid will have KDE 3.1? Thanks, Jeff Elkins http://www.elkins.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mounting sound cdroms
* Joris Huizer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030214 16:19]: > --- Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 12:29:40AM -0800, Joris > > Huizer wrote: > > > - mounting manually, won't work - I get: > > > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock > > on > > > /dev/hdc, or too many mounted file systems You DO NOT mount an audio CD. You mount devices with a filesystem on it. As I understand it, audio CDs simply don't have one. > > You cannot mount an audio CD. Can you play it when > > you just press > > play on the front of the CDROM? If not, is it a > > "copy-protected" CD? > > > > You mean, when inserting in a normal cd player ? it > just goes on and plays everything. > (The computer cd player doesn't have a play button) He means your PC's cd-rom drive. But yes, many don't have a 'play' button. Do you have the package 'cdtool' installed ?? If so, insert the audio CD and type "cdplay" at a console prompt. > The cd was bought past year, december - it doesn't > mentioning copy-protection but ofcourse it says > copying and everything is prohibited ... I'm pretty sure they give no indication that they're protected. The recording industry could care less about computer-based cdplayers. They're only concerned if they'll play in home cdplayers. Hall -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Certification
On Friday 14 February 2003 13:31, deFreese, Barry wrote: > >-Original Message- > > From: Mike M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > >Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 8:16 AM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Certification > > > > > >Certification is for PHBs only. Right? Is there any evidence other than > >marketing blather that certification is a worthwhile endeavor? > >-- > >Mike M. > > Certification is a double-edged sword. I don't know about the Linux world > yet but in the old Novell days and in the M$ world, many organizations will > not hire someone who is not "certified", regardless of their true > experience level or talent. > > Now, the flip side of the problem is that you have VERY talented people who > do not need to be certified getting passed over for jobs and freshly > certified (certifiable? :-) ) morons who couldn't set up a server to save > their lives. > > I think the stigma is changing some after many companies have been burned > hiring the "certified" morons. Heh-heh. Glad to hear it. > However, getting certified is never > necessarily a bad thing. It can be a way to keep up with technology and it > also shows employers that you are willing to continue learning/growing. > > Just my worthless $.02 > > BTW, is there a Debian certification?? ;-) Just kidding. I would be more inclined toward certification it were not such a pure profit opportunity for the administrator; US$750 for a RHCE; 4 digit numbers for MS/Oracle/Cisco/Krispy Kreme certs. To my way of thinking being certified is like being "award winning". The award winning entity never mentions what award it is that they won and where and when they got it and why. Or how much they paid for it. I saw a post on the French debian user list where someone suggested using the number of your Debian user list posts as your certification rating. Clever. (Google's translate function is way cool. ) -- Mike M. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Gnome xterm windows
-Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 4:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gnome xterm windows On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 10:54:00AM -0500, David Turetsky wrote: > Each time I reboot, gnome opens what seems to be twice as many xterm > windows as the previous sessions > > > > Isn't there such a thing as too much of a good thing? GNOME's session manager seems to b0rked. Edit ~/.gnome/sessions or such and remove 'most' of the xterm entries :) Yes, that fixes it solid. Had to make sure the sequences and counts were properly adjusted. Thanks -- David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PCI graphics cards recommendations
Jonathan Matthews said: > Hi everyone. > > Can anyone recommend/warn me off any PCI graphics cards that > are still available at retail? > > I've googled a bit, but can't find any info written in the last year or > so, or any relevant to X4.x > > FWIW I'm running X4.2, with a 15" CRT and a K6-III/550Mhz. > I'd be looking to try Quake I/II/III (or as far as the K6 will let me go), > and general desktoppy stuff. I'd like to have the facility to run in as > high a resolution as possible at a reasonable refresh rate (where > reasonable is, I spose, >65Hz). http://www.insight.com/web/apps/nbs/index.php?K=nvidia+pci+video+card&C=C-VideoCard http://www.insight.com/web/apps/nbs/index.php?K=ati+pci+video+card&C=C-VideoCard insight doesn't always have the best prices but they have great service, and a huge selection. I haven't tried the above cards but they should work fine just like their AGP counterparts, perhaps just a bit slower. I have a matrox g450 dual head PCI from insight in my redhat box(intel l440gx+ motherboard, no AGP), works great. Haven't tried any 3d stuff but I think it's too slow for 3d games, the nvidia would probably be best, ati should work too. looks like maybe the geforce2 MX from the list above would be the fastest, anything faster probably wouldn't make much difference on a k6-3 550, you sure thats not a k6-2? or maybe it's overclocked? fastest k6-3 I've seen I think is 450(I have a 400 in one of my boxes, love it). nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
interpretting DHCP Client messages
Hey all: I'm curious to know what's actually happening when I pull up my wireless ethernet connection. Below is what I do and then what I see. I don't understand what the DHCPOFFERS received means. This seems to be the longest part of the connection. Is there a way to optomize this so that it takes less time? thanks :) emma debian:/home/emmajane# ifup eth0 Internet Software Consortium DHCP Client 2.0pl5 Copyright 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999 The Internet Software Consortium. All rights reserved. Please contribute if you find this software useful. For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/dhcp-contrib.html Listening on LPF/eth0/00:00:e2:8d:22:8b Sending on LPF/eth0/00:00:e2:8d:22:8b Sending on Socket/fallback/fallback-net DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7 DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7 DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 10 DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8 DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 10 DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11 DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8 No DHCPOFFERS received. Trying recorded lease 192.168.1.100 PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1): 56 data bytes --- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics --- 1 packets transmitted, 1 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max = 5.8/5.8/5.8 ms bound: renewal in 43013 seconds. -- Emma Jane Hogbin [[ 416 417 2868 ][ www.xtrinsic.com ]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Certification
deFreese, Barry said: > Certification is a double-edged sword. I don't know about the Linux world > yet but in the old Novell days and in the M$ world, many organizations > will not hire someone who is not "certified", regardless of their true > experience level or talent. novell especially. I haven't used it myself but for some reason this rumor stuck with me, the fact that novell was so complicated to install it required a certified person. I watched a certified person(for novell 3? or maybe 4) install netware 5 once and it looked fairly complicated. I've installed about 16 flavors of unix and linux(every major unix variant except SCO), and haven't had any issues(no certs here). in my job search since september I have very rarely come accross a job that mentions certification(my job search terms are typically 'linux' 'unix' 'networking'). Most of the jobs requesting certs seem to be in the networking area from what I have seen. Only seen maybe 2-3 jobs tops that requested unix or linux certs. More jobs requesting top secret clearance then unix/linux certs here at least. > > Now, the flip side of the problem is that you have VERY talented people > who do not need to be certified getting passed over for jobs and freshly > certified (certifiable? :-) ) morons who couldn't set up a server to save > their lives. sad huh. I was talking to a friend who works in boston, his company was hiring a new "system administrator". The other one was moving out of state, and I talked to him about the people who applied there since he was doing a lot of the interviewing. The job posting asked for unix skills, mac skills, networking, firewalls etc. Typical shit, though it referenced too much desktop-centric to be attractive to me(not to mention I'm on the other side of the country), anyways the people they interviewed were fucking idiots. I mean he would ask them a question like "what is your favorite shell", and they couldn't answer. They would get confused and say "Well I just open a terminal..". I mean he couldn't even NAME a shell to bullshit his way through the question. and they still ended up hiring him, though he won't be the system admin, my friend got promoted to that position, a 10k raise and this new guy gets to be helpdesk. many other candidates had little or no administration experience, i.e. they came from sales or marketing positions and had brief usage of a particular OS but nothing on the administrative side. And I mean nothing, not even installed it at home and used it. I had hoped that this shitty economy would of flushed such candidates out of the IT industry forever to leave room for the better qualified folk(e.g. the "lifers" such as myself :) ). my friend suspects the shitty candidates they got were due to the low salary of the position(he didn't know what the salary was), I'm guessing they were lookin for someone for under 40k. They recieved more then 500 applications for the position in the first week. I had another interview with a recruiter on monday and she said they still recieve on average 300 applications per job posting. > I think the stigma is changing some after many companies have been burned > hiring the "certified" morons. However, getting certified is never > necessarily a bad thing. It can be a way to keep up with technology and > it also shows employers that you are willing to continue learning/growing. getting certified may be good, but depending on what your looking for job wise should influence what certs you mention you have. e.g. personally I would look down upon an individual who is going for a Unix/linux job who touts having an A+ certification. This certification may be more respectable in the minimum wage PC repair but to me it makes it seem like the person doesn't know much(or, if listed along side a bunch of other certs it would scream 'paper cert' to me). nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Request confirmation this is a dpkg bug
Hello everyone, I've been having some trouble with dpkg and afaik it is a bug. Can someone confirm this is worth a bugreport ? _Symptoms:_ Sometimes (not all packages, not always) dpkg fails as follows: #+v dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/noatun-plugins_4%3a3.1.0-2_i386.deb (--unpack): failed to realloc for variable buffer: Cannot allocate memory #-v _Research:_ Searching the archive reveals this bug has already been reported 2 years ago (#85040) and was apparantly solved ... so it shouldn't be happening on this version of dpkg. _SystemInfo:_ dpkg: 1.10.9 (i386) (same result with version 1.9.21 (i386)) dselect: 1.10.9 libc6:2.3.1-11 debian: stable/testing/unstable kernel: 2.4.19 arch: i686 (duron 1000Mhz) ram: 512MB (Since some bugs with dpkg had to do with locales I checked that it does happen with LC_ALL=C and LANG=C) _Question:_ Is this a bug ? If so, should I reopen the original #85040 ? (Is that even possible ?) Please be gentle since I am not an expert and have never submitted a bugreport. Simon PS: I am aware of the existence of the *reportbug* package. -- Linux is only free if your time has no value... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bbc emulator
On Friday 14 Feb 2003 11:30 am, Caoilte O'Connor wrote: > Hey All, > I have a hankering for a bbc emulator, but was a bit shocked to just > realise that there isn't one in sid. > > Has anyone setup a bbc emulator on their debian box? Could they recommend > what they think is the best one? > > cheers 'n that, > > caoilte Haven't used a Linux based Beeb emu but there's a list at: http://bbc.nvg.org/emulators.php3 hth pete -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bbc emulator
Vineet Kumar wrote:
> * Caoilte O'Connor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030214 03:46]:
> > Hey All,
> > I have a hankering for a bbc emulator, but was a bit shocked to just
> > realise that there isn't one in sid.
>
> ] 2 definitions found
> ]
> ] From The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing (09 FEB 02) [foldoc]:
> ]
> ] BBC
> ]
> ] {British Broadcasting Corporation}
>
> Well, surely that' can't be right.
>
> ]
> ]
> ]
> ] From V.E.R.A. -- Virtual Entity of Relevant Acronyms December 2001 [vera]:
> ]
> ] BBC
> ] Broadband Bearer Capability (B-ISDN)
>
> That I don't quite understand. Is that what you mean?
I think he's referring to a 1980s British-made microcomputer
colloquially called "BBC". I don't recall offhand what its real name
was.
Craig
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