Re: Linux Sucketh not.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 01:03:34AM -0500, Mark L. Kahnt wrote: > I got the digest - for less than one week. You can't follow threads with > it, and it is several big emails a day, at relatively indeterminate > times, often apparently missing some of the key posts in numerous > threads (they may be in a previous or even later digest.) Seems like a workaround to that is if you had procmail barf digests into a mailbox. Then it can go for a few days and things will thread out properly and make the fact it's a digest even more transparent than mutt can. - -- .''`. Baloo Ursidae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+g/qdJ5vLSqVpK2kRAvNiAJ0cdvI4nJLAx2tYSeEtiE4vY51qhgCgurxA +YBLrpO6mZCyYVdLMrfJG+4= =5GW1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux Sucketh not.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 09:16:44PM -0500, ScruLoose wrote: > It's just begging me to get a domain name... http://www.dyndns.org/ You don't even need a static IP. > I'm pretty sure that if you switch to digest mode you'll still be able > to post. Heck, you don't need to be subscribed at all in order to post. > It might be a little clunky to *reply* to a message in a digest... My understanding is mutt handles this cleanly with reply to list. > (having to slice out the message you want, override the subject header > so it refers to the specific message instead of the digest itself...) Mutt opens digests like it does mailboxes. - -- .''`. Baloo Ursidae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+g/l1J5vLSqVpK2kRAvO8AKC0BzvSmajDn2jd3K0gb1jqor6+pgCgxELk UU2yo+3bcsRMV8dukpewY40= =8xmZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux Sucketh not.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 11:17:31PM -0800, Paul E Condon wrote: > This is a reply to this email as received in digest mode. I use mutt > to read my mail. In mutt, I open the digest email by pressing CR, and > then open a pick-list of contents of the email using 'v'. Then each > post to the list appears as a separate 'sub-email'. I use 'L' to reply > to the list from within one of the sub-emails just as I would reply if > the emails had arrived individually. I have to wonder if procmail can barf (that's the opposite of digesting, right?) digests into an mbox. - -- .''`. Baloo Ursidae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+g/ocJ5vLSqVpK2kRAu95AJ9JWzaG6lz/xjugSCzHD5YwB0wCLACgkWQP qKtLzSCVcj0WEYfFQvron+o= =m3nG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux Sucketh not.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 07:57:22PM -0500, Mr. Baldwin wrote: > Now, when I signed onto this list the only digest option I could see > was read-only...Was I mistaken? I would prefer to receive the list > in digest, if possible...Anyone? Anybody can post by emailing [EMAIL PROTECTED], whether or not they're subscribed. If you do go for the digest option, please remember to change the subject to something sensable and clip down the digest to the parts of the message you're replying to, or just use Mutt since it views digests as a message with a bunch of other messages (kind of like getting an mbox mailed to you). Either case, please turn your line wraps on. 8:o) - -- .''`. Baloo Ursidae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+g/ixJ5vLSqVpK2kRAn7cAKDIqqvpO69usFhoX5jHwLRTVWs2RACeJk0w /qVT+RfEkhBGyO1m5wetMSM= =tF9x -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xpdf
> > Obvious poking around doesn't suggest a way for gv or ghostview to do > > full-screen mode. You might be able to put something together quickly > > that embeds gs; if it were me and I cared quite enough, I'd spend an > > hour or so trying to figure out if a quick hack was possible. Good > > luck... > > If time is short, you might consider this. I just did it for a job > talk, but it is not an elegant solution. I use fvwm with a 3x3 > virtual desktop. I simply sized gv so that one of the nine views of > the virtual desktop was the slide. The menu bar, sidebar, and > scrollbars were off the screen on the adjacent portions of the virtual > desktop, so it looked like the fullscreen slideshow. HTH. Luckily, time is not short (the talk will be on monday) and I can live without anti-aliased eps. Unfortunately, I really can't begin to show my institution's logo, since the text underneath it simply is too ugly and unintelligible to show people that presentations in physics actually _can_ be done without PowerPoint and Windows and with LaTeX (nice formulas) and Linux (nice and stable OS). In gv, the logo looks beautiful. Maybe I can resize it and 'anti-aliase' it with some program like the gimp? Any ideas? David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KDE/smbfs in unstable
Hello. I am running 'unstable' with KDE 3.1.1 and the smbfs packages installed. I have two shares (exported via Samba on FreeBSD) mounted. When I use a KDE application to open a file in either directory the application repeatedly receieves SIGBUS, causing the application to become unresponsive. If I try to use konqueror to browse (via smb://) the shares, I get an error message as follows. ERROR: ERROR 3: couldn't create slave : Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_smb'. Is there any way to determine why kio_smb didn't load or why browsing a mounted share sends SIGBUS to KDE applications? Btw, other applications are able to browse through these mounted shares without any problem. Regards, Drew Vogel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dhclient problem
Hi Kevin, > If you aren't seeing the alleged DHCPACK packet even in raw "tcpdump" > output, there's not much you can do. If you have a "smart" router or > something between your ADSL modem and your computer, it may be doing > something remarkably stupid to those ACKs, but if your computer is > directly connected to the ADSL modem and no ACK packet gets to your > machine, then the problem is obviously theirs. > > Try running: > > tcpdump -s 2000 -nXe > > (without piping it through "dhcpdump", in case that's swallowing some > of the packets for some reason) and go through a connection attempt. > Send that output along, and I'll take a look at it. This is the log with the right options (yesterday I forgot some, so I didn't send it since I didn't think it would be useful). I hope you still have some time to look at it, the problem keeps annoying me. Thanks! David 06:58:47.787248 0:30:85:95:5d:7 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 0806 60: arp who-has 81.91.5.175 tell 81.91.5.1 0x 0001 0800 0604 0001 0030 8595 5d07 515b.0..].Q[ 0x0010 0501 515b 05af Q[.. 0x0020 .. 06:58:53.009864 0:50:fc:a2:91:74 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 0800 342: 0.0.0.0.68 > 255.255.255.255.67: xid:0xc7864867 vend-rfc1048 DHCP:DISCOVER PR:SM+BR+TZ+DG+DN+NS+HN CID:00:50:fc:b1:91:84 [tos 0x10] 0x 4510 0148 1011 a996 E..H 0x0010 0044 0043 0134 73df 0101 0600.D.C.4s. 0x0020 c786 4867 ..Hg 0x0030 0050 fca2 9174 .P...t.. 0x0040 0x0050 0x0060 0x0070 0x0080 0x0090 0x00a0 0x00b0 0x00c0 0x00d0 0x00e0 0x00f0 0x0100 6382 5363 3501 0137c.Sc5..7 0x0110 0701 1c02 030f 060c 3d06 0050 fcb1 9184=..P 0x0120 ff00 0x0130 0x0140 06:58:53.057500 0:30:85:95:5d:7 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 0800 342: 81.91.5.1.67 > 255.255.255.255.68: hops:1 xid:0xc7864867 Y:81.91.5.181 S:81.91.1.11 G:81.91.5.1 ether 0:50:fc:a2:91:74 vend-rfc1048 DHCP:OFFER SID:81.91.5.1 LT:604800 SM:255.255.255.0 BR:81.91.5.255 DG:81.91.5.1 DN:"mjdsl.nl" NS:81.91.1.10,81.91.0.10 0x 4500 0148 043b ff11 600e 515b 0501E..H.;`.Q[.. 0x0010 0043 0044 0134 0c67 0201 0601.C.D.4.g 0x0020 c786 4867 515b 05b5..HgQ[.. 0x0030 515b 010b 515b 0501 0050 fca2 9174 Q[..Q[...P...t.. 0x0040 0x0050 0x0060 0x0070 0x0080 0x0090 0x00a0 0x00b0 0x00c0 0x00d0 0x00e0 0x00f0 0x0100 6382 5363 3501 0236c.Sc5..6 0x0110 0451 5b05 0133 0400 093a 8001 04ff .Q[..3...:.. 0x0120 001c 0451 5b05 ff03 0451 5b05 010f 086d...Q[Q[m 0x0130 6a64 736c 2e6e 6c06 0851 5b01 0a51 5b00jdsl.nl..Q[..Q[. 0x0140 0aff 06:58:53.058103 0:50:fc:a2:91:74 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 0800 342: 0.0.0.0.68 > 255.255.255.255.67: xid:0xc7864867 vend-rfc1048 DHCP:REQUEST SID:81.91.5.1 RQ:81.91.5.181 PR:SM+BR+TZ+DG+DN+NS+HN CID:00:50:fc:b1:91:84 [tos 0x10] 0x 451
Re: sylpheed-doc package broken?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I understand that apt doesn't know anything about packages other than > what it't told about dependencies and conflicts. > > Let's get to the big picture -- is the doc there to support the use of > the binary, or is the binary there to support the use of the doc? The doc package probably exists only because of the binary package, but you should be able to install either without the other. So strictly speaking, they're independent. However, when both are installed, they should probably be in sync. That's the thing that's hard to express other than by having each package conflict with older versions of the other. You'd need to add more information to the debs for that, I think. I don't think I see merit in simply saying that binary packages cannot be automatically removed to allow for an upgrade of a doc package. I dislike the idea of having different rules for doc packages. > If we can agree that the binary is primary and the doc is secondary, > then we should be able to agree that what happened to the original > poster should not happen. The question then is what to do about it. I'm happy with either of two perspectives on this: (1) What happened in this case is okay; nothing's broken, nothing needs to be changed. Keep apt simple. If you don't want to lose your binary,just don't install anything that conflicts with it. Duh! (2) What happened in this case should be avoidable by a new package field that says, "Subordinate-To: X".This would tell apt that it is not acceptable to automatically remove X because of an upgrade or new installation of this package. Instead, apt would simply refuse to install this package, and give the user a message explaining that X was in the way and had to be removed manually. Craig pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
remote admin via network
G'day all, Now I've got a fileserver all configured and worked out the neccessary redundancy senario's, I'd like to administer it remotely. I know of webmin and someone suggested ssh in another thread any other methods i should look at. tia Lindsay --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.465 / Virus Database: 263 - Release Date: 25/03/2003 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: system slows down
Hey, I just installed debian 3.0, upgraded to testing, put on a custom 2.4.20 kernel, with nvidia-glx all up and running, and I am almost all set. One thing though. Every so often, things will slow to a CRAWL, and then poof, go back to normal. WHAT IS THIS? How can I stop it? Whatever clever program is running in the background, I would like it to stop! Hmmm. Try this command in the console; # ps -aux This should list all the running processes. - Jeremiah -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where is faq/HOWTO for changing locale?
On Sat, Mar 22, 2003 at 11:59:35AM -0800, Peter Farley wrote: > I need to change my locale from LANG=C to LANG=en_US > on debian-390 (woody-3.0r1), running under hercules > 390 emulator. Just changing the value of LANG does > not seem to do what I expect. In fact, it doesn't > seem to do much of anything. > > Could someone please point me to a faq or HOWTO that > tells what packages need to be installed and a > step-by-step procedure for changing locale? > > TIA for any info and RTFM's you can provide. For basic FAQ on Debian http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ For basic FAQ for Debian system administration (Self-promotion) http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html As for intro for locale: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tune.en.html#s-l10n Cheers :-) -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ + Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cupertino CA USA, GPG-key: A8061F32 .''`. Debian Reference: post-installation user's guide for non-developers : :' : http://qref.sf.net and http://people.debian.org/~osamu `. `' "Our Priorities are Our Users and Free Software" --- Social Contract -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NFS or alternative
Got Samba working today. Now I've got to get NFS or something like it working for the Linux side - where most of the work gets done. I've got a simple single site network with 7 Linux boxen. Is NFS v2 the way to go here? TIA, -- Mike M. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ASUS motherboard (SOLVED)
Michael Naumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |> > Thanks a lot to Mark Devin and Ralph Brown for their help. Both |> > suggested using the sis900 driver for the onboard LAN on the Asus |> > P4S533-E. |> > |> > I've tried that, and the problems persist. Loading the module sis900 |> > (with modprobe or with insmod or with kerneld) produces: |> > |> > eth0: Error EERPOM read 0 |> > sis900.o: init_module: No such device |> |> I have seen the same message with my sis900 (not on an asus board). |> My solution was to install linux 2.4.20, where they fixed some |> problems with this driver. Now everything works perfectly. Compiling and installing a 2.4.20 kernel (from the ac branch actually) did indeed solve this problem. All is working great now. Thanks very much indeed to all who helped. Jim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: leaving computer on 24/7
on Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 04:31:15PM -0600, Nathan E Norman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 10:12:14PM +, Karsten M. Self wrote: <...> > > Additional problem: "stiction" on old drives. I've got a set of SCSIs > > from 1998 which can't be shut down for more than a few minutes without > > requiring some manual encouragement to spin up again. > > Ah, the old "whack the drive case with a screwdriver handle" trick :-) How brutal! No, I pull the drives, give them a bunch of rapid half-spins about the major platter axis, and try powering them up. Once they spin up, I let them run for a few minutes, then put them back on their rails in the case. Usually they'll spin up again immediately after. > If you really want to hear stiction horror stories, go talk to people > who have administrated (big) mainframes and experienced a power > outage. /me hands Nathan a beer. Do tell ;-) Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Moderator, Free Software Law Discussion mailing list: http://lists.alt.org/mailman/listinfo/fsl-discuss/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KNOPPIX as an installer for Debian
On March 27, 2003 09:02 pm, Terry Milnes wrote: > Is it possible to use KNOPPIX as a installer for Debian? Once I > have KNOPPIX installed then add Debians stable apt repository to > add the other software that I want? > > NeoFax yes. However the stable repository will most likely have older packages than what is in Knoppix. Some might not even install I'm not sure what Knoppix is based on. I would go with testing sources. leo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
synaptic issues...
I've been trying to do some upgrading to testing. I installed the newest synaptic (I like the interface logic better than aptitude) but it seems to puke when I try to upgrade some things. I walked away from it for it to finish after a *long* download (5+ hours) and I came back to a shutdown computer (which may be a hardware problem?). I checked /var/cache/apt and most of the files have been downloaded--but when I re-run synaptic to install the debs, it gives me a seg fault. Should I just stick with apt-get? I liked being able to browse available packages in X...aptitude's interface is way to clunky for me (too many places to get lost, IMHO). Thanx for the help. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT, DSW] Appropriate transportation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 05:05:39PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > So you're saying autos are a Bad Thing (tm)? No, I'm saying they're vastly overrated and overused. You don't need to drive to the corner store, and odds are you can probably take someone that lives near you in to work on your way (or vice versa) if you're on first watch (and most people are). > Hey, if you don't like autos, why do you participate in using them? Who said I did? Both my personal vehicle and my patrol vehicle at work are bicycles.[1] I will concede I occasionally rent or borrow a car, but this is extremely rare and only in cases that I'm going someplace farther than is reasonably accomplished with a bicycle, or need to move something larger or heaver than can be carried on a bicycle with a trailer given Portland's hills. Last time I drove a car was last October on a trip to Tacoma for the weekend. Read my first paragraph. I'm not against autos in all instances, I'm just saying it has it's niche but far too many people ignore that niche and use it as the end-all, be-all in transportation, to the extreme detriment of the standard of living of those who live in cities. > If one is to take you at your word, then you take part in using > autos even when you consider them bad (or you at least ride in > them), and feel the world would be much better off if the automobile > had never been invented. Are you really trying to make such a far > reaching statement? Can you back it up? Where did I say that? I said the world might have been a better place if Ford made cars for people who could readily work on such hardware. People would definately think a lot more about what the right tool for the job is, and likely be less wreckless with those tools. > I might add that I use a bicycle for a good deal of my > transportation. I don't have trouble with cars getting in my way or > running me down. If you feel so strongly about cars being a bad > thing, what do you do to reduce their use? Do you avoid driving and > use other transportation? I only rarely have issues with cars getting in my way or nearly running me down (and in all instances, they're either jabbering on the phone instead of paying attention to thier driving, are Californian, or both). I'm a somewhat visible presence in my neighborhood, since someone living car-free in the suburbs is a rare sight. I vote in favor of rapid transit measures and encourage people to use Portland's public transportation system, which is fast, extremely extensive, reliable, cheap to ride, 100% bicycle and handicapped accessible, super-easy to use and tells you when a bus is running off schedule[2]. I suggest to tourists that they find a cheap place to park and take the transit system as well[3]. Neighbors and friends somewhat regularly ask me for advice on the best routes to commute by bike or for recommendations on long lasting bike gear, or how to make use of Portland's many ammenities for cyclists. I'm usually able to get them pointed in the right direction, and it makes me happy to see them able to use it to thier satisfaction as well. So, oh holy one, what do you do to walk the walk of appropriate transport? > Yes, people get killed and maimed in auto accidents. Yes, there are careless > drivers. But for your point to be valid, you would have to argue that we > would be better off without them than we are with them (in which case how > many lives would we lose because non-auto-accident victims never get medical > attention in time because of distance -- among other things). You falsely assume that I believe motor transport should be banished, when in reality I see it has it's place. In reality, I believe it's a bit misapplied by the general public and should play a smaller role in society. It's safe to say that I'm not in favor of taking ambulatory, police and fire services back into the 1800s. > Oh, and as a note -- I've spent most of my life working with > children, as well, in psych hospitals. If you want to talk about > what dangers cars are to children, I'll go call your bluff and raise > what I've seen hundreds of other elements of our culture do to fsck > up kids and teens. I'm not bluffing. I'll match what you have and call. I was in high school when the whole geek profiling craze started, and while I graduated, the school wouldn't let me walk with my class at the ceremony. Heck, my best friend had to give me one of his tickets so I could even attend. A disturbingly large number of my classmates were misdiagnosed with ADD and drugged into submission at the school district's request. I'm no stranger to what can damage a child. [1] Personal rig is a 1999 Gary Fisher Wahoo that will have 7,000 miles on the odometer in a week or so. Work bike is a 1998 Trek 800 Police edition that mostly stays on campus and has about 11,000 miles on the odometer (though I'm usually at a desk instead of riding around, so
Re: Why is my kernel broken?
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003, JS Bangs wrote: > Hello fellow Debian fans-- > > I've been trying to listen to music on my computer, which meant I had to > install ALSA suport for my driver, which meant I had to update my kernel > from the 2.2.20 that's the default with Woody. The kernel package I'm > trying to install is 2.4.16-k7, which is appropriate for my hardware. I > can get and install the package without incident, and everything appears > to be configured as it should be a whole slew of: > > modprobe: cannot locate dependencies file > /lib/modules/2.4.16-k7/modules.dep--no such file or directory. make sure you have a /etc/modules.conf or equiv when you have booted the 2.4.16-k7 kernel, run "depmod -a" and that should update your /lib/modules/2.4.16-k7/modules.dep and than probably reboot for safe measure ?? or just try insmod'ing a few modules from /lib/modules/2.4.16-k7/kernel/*/something.o lsmod to see if its listed c ya alvin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KNOPPIX as an installer for Debian
Is it possible to use KNOPPIX as a installer for Debian? Once I have KNOPPIX installed then add Debians stable apt repository to add the other software that I want? NeoFax
Re: sylpheed-doc package broken?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand that apt doesn't know anything about packages other than what it't told about dependencies and conflicts. Let's get to the big picture -- is the doc there to support the use of the binary, or is the binary there to support the use of the doc? If we can agree that the binary is primary and the doc is secondary, then we should be able to agree that what happened to the original poster should not happen. The question then is what to do about it. Kevin What about apache and apache-doc? I could easily see people wanting apache-doc and not caring if apache needed to be removed for apache-doc to be installed. When I first installed spamassassin, it was solely for the documentation and if a spamassassin-doc package had been available than I would have installed that even if it made spamassassin itself uninstallable. Also, I am guessing, but I would guess that sylpheed-doc and old sylpheed really do conflict and it isn't just a question of keeping them in sync[ie they both contain the same file]. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RAID up & running
| A BIG THANK YOU TO ALL. | The file server is up & running. I've tested recovery from a | lost raid | disc & also OS. | | BUT! ... yes another question. | | Should I loose the image of my OS (which is separate from | the RAID1 set) | could I reinstall debian to hda (a non-raid disc) the add the | appropriate raidtab file, edit fstab then mount md0? Sounds | OK here, any | loose ends? | | tia | Lindsay Just tried the above, works fine. (just for the archive) :-) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.465 / Virus Database: 263 - Release Date: 25/03/2003 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: remount md0 after disc failure
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 10:50:35PM +1100, Lindsay Yardley wrote: > G'day Pigeon, > | Don't forget to reinstall the bootloader. > That'll be tomorrows HOWTO to read ... "Lilo Bootloader HOWTO" > H, no real reason for a bootloader for this, only 1 OS to boot to, > hmmm wonder if I can boot directly to /boot? Another HOWTO to read. Nonono, you've got to have a bootloader to boot anything at all! Having only one OS to boot just makes the configuration easier. I'm not able to be much help with lilo/grub because I personally find it useful to boot to DOS and then run LOADLIN.EXE to boot Linux. This is not a very popular method. > | > | I take it by "image" you mean "all the files/directories/permissions > | and stuff" as opposed to something akin to a ISO9660 image of a CD? > Yes, looks like parted can do that, yes? Yet another HOWTO to read. Parted is for editing the partition table so you can do stuff like moving/resizing partitions, hopefully without losing the data on them. Because of the "hopefully", "it is advisable" to do a backup first. Parted can indeed copy a filesystem to a different partition, but in your setup you don't have any unused partitions to copy it onto. You could buy a second hard drive, install it as hdb, use parted to copy the hda filesystem onto it, take it out again and stick it in a cupboard so if hda fails you can swap in the spare drive and get going again. This is great for getting going again quickly after a hard drive failure, but sucks as a method of taking regular backups, which of course you will still need to do. With a 1GB partition, I personally wouldn't bother taking incremental backups. I'd just copy the whole thing, compressed, to a CD-ROM (or uncompressed to two). There are several methods of taking a copy of all the files/directories/permissions etc, such as tar and cp -a. Have a look in the list archives, there have been several different methods suggested over the past few weeks. Then you can use mkisofs to convert the snapshot to a CD-ROM image and cdrecord to burn it. In your setup, it looks like you would need to use a temporary directory on /home to hold the snapshot and CD-ROM image. I'm posting this back to the list so others can give their input. My methods are not necessarily the best! Pigeon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RAID up & running
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 10:40:44PM +1100, Lindsay Yardley wrote: > A BIG THANK YOU TO ALL. > The file server is up & running. I've tested recovery from a lost raid > disc & also OS. > > BUT! ... yes another question. > > Should I loose the image of my OS (which is separate from the RAID1 set) > could I reinstall debian to hda (a non-raid disc) the add the > appropriate raidtab file, edit fstab then mount md0? Sounds OK here, any > loose ends? Don't forget the kernel config/boot params stuff from right at the very beginning... Pigeon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Any plans to add the package of spambayes?
http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/ Anyone used it? thoughts? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: splitting/editing avi/video files
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 05:16:51 +0800 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > At Tue, 25 Mar 2003 10:54:52 +, > Klaus Imgrund wrote: > > > > > re-encoding may not work for the same reasons "copying" with > > > mencoder didnt. Plus the reason I want to do it is to > > > prevent reencoding, I mean I could reencode with mencode as > > > well to a smaller screen or lower resolution and get a > > > smaller file. Any other ideas? > > Did you try copying the copy? > > mencoder -oac copy -ovc copy -forceidx result_of_first_copy This is working and I will use it. There seems to be a significant loss of "smoothness" when seeking after forcing idx though... this is doing it with mencoder... do you think avidemux would be better? Shawn > > > That's the reason I use mencoder and avidemux. Sometimes one > > does what the other wouldn't do. If you just want to split it > > and be able to put it back together on different platforms > > lxsplit is your friend. Only the first part is playable without > > putting it back together though. > > If that's the problem you probably don't need to look further > than GNU. For splitting, the following tools come to mind: split, > head, tail and dd. don't forget du as i use it to get accurate byte counts, is this right? Shawn Lamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
System Slows Down
Hey, I just installed debian 3.0, upgraded to testing, put on a custom 2.4.20 kernel, with nvidia-glx all up and running, and I am almost all set. One thing though. Every so often, things will slow to a CRAWL, and then poof, go back to normal. WHAT IS THIS? How can I stop it? Whatever clever program is running in the background, I would like it to stop! Thanks, Dan PS. Hardware: Athlon XP 2000, Asus MB, 768MB RAM, Debian on a Maxtor 20GB, Primary Boot, Windows XP on an WD 80GB, with 40GB Fat32 for media/docs. OnBoard Sound, Nvidia Geforce 4200Ti. An some kind of cd burner (tdk). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian's release support policy
> > Does Debian have an official policy regarding how long security > updates and critical bug fixes will be provided for a release (e.g. > six months, one year, etc)? > i am not too sure but i think i read this somewhere that as long as there is a current release updates will be provided for it. When a new major version comes upgrades will be stopped. upgrades for woody 3.0 will be stopped when 3.x comes out.Of course, the list would continue to support all versions, depending on the number of ppl who use it. Sharninder Singh National Institute Of Management, Calcutta -- 'M.C.S.E - Minesweeper Consultant & Solitaire Expert' -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Help
> I recently downloaded a .deb file how to I actually install it. > The deb package was not a standard deb package and I am so new I > don't know how to setup a standard .deb file. Please help > try dpkg -i ... and later do man dpkg man apt-get Sharninder Singh National Institute Of Management, Calcutta -- 'M.C.S.E - Minesweeper Consultant & Solitaire Expert' -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Why is my kernel broken?
Hello fellow Debian fans-- I've been trying to listen to music on my computer, which meant I had to install ALSA suport for my driver, which meant I had to update my kernel from the 2.2.20 that's the default with Woody. The kernel package I'm trying to install is 2.4.16-k7, which is appropriate for my hardware. I can get and install the package without incident, and everything appears to be configured as it should be a whole slew of: modprobe: cannot locate dependencies file /lib/modules/2.4.16-k7/modules.dep--no such file or directory. Then a short message about attempting to kill init, and kernel panic. What's especially strange about this is that when I rescue-boot the system, the /lib/modules/2.4.16-k7/ directory appears completely normal, and the modules.dep file exists and isn't empty. So I'm stumped--any ideas? P.S. How do I restore the original kernel? Simply removing the newer kernel package w/ dselect doesn't seem to work. Jesse S. Bangs [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://students.washington.edu/jaspax/ http://students.washington.edu/jaspax/blog Jesus asked them, "Who do you say that I am?" And they answered, "You are the eschatological manifestation of the ground of our being, the kerygma in which we find the ultimate meaning of our interpersonal relationship." And Jesus said, "What?" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apt-get: where does the extra "1%3a" come from?
Hi: I am trying to put some .deb packages from the cache into the web. Somehow some extra characters are added. For example, gawk_3.1.0-3_i386.deb BECOMES gawk_1%3a3.1.0-3_i386.deb May I know what did I wrong? Is there anyway to eliminate the extra "1%3a" characters? Or, is there anyway to tell apache(?) to recognize those extra chars? thank you, -- Abdul Latip -- Angkasa Internet Junior Staff -- ANGIN.com http://people.WebIndonesia.com/dullatip/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kicker
I lost the Kicker panel in KDE, does anyone know how to get it back? Thanx!
Re: I cannot unsubscribe. blah blah whine whine etc.
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 08:04:58PM -0500, eauclair wrote: > help me i have over 6000 emails so far > > the administrator will not help me If you don't read the replies to your questions, you will never get help. This is obvious. Those who ask questions and then just keep whinging and moaning so they don't hear the answer... don't ever know what the answer was, do they? You have initiated what? three separate threads? four? over the last day or two about how you can't unsubscribe. You've been answered. More than once. With valid suggestions. Yet you continue posting the same petulant complaint, without showing any indication that you even *read* the replies, let alone tried their suggestions. Of *course* no-one seems to care. You're just gratuitously whining at us at this point, and I doubt there's anybody who wants to hear it. If you were to shut the #$%^ up for a minute and *read* the *answers* that have *already* been posted in reply to your unsubscribe woes, you might have discovered that there are actually at least three things you can do that are smarter and more productive than kicking your heels and screaming "I want somebody else to make the problem go away... right now... WAAAHHH!". Option 1: Go to http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/unsubscribe and use the web interface to unsubscribe your old address. Option 2: Sit down, shut up, and wait. The list administrator is probably (Like everyone else who contributes to Debian) a volunteer. Who has a life. Who (if I know anything about end-users) gets thousands of messages from people who are too stupid or lazy to try the instructions before they pester the administrator. Option 3: Go to http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#subunsub for detailed instructions on how to unsubsctibe via e-mail *even if* it's not possible to send the e-mail from the address you want unsubscribed. In the improbable event that you actually try these solutions and still don't meet with any success, you might try replying within this thread to let us know *exactly* what happened when you tried. That way we might be able to offer further help (if there's anyone left on this list who's isn't just blackholing your messages... after all your whining). -- ,-. > -ScruLoose- | If it doesn't work, force it. < > Please do not | If it breaks, it needed replacing anyway. < > reply off-list. | < `-' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: killfile, anyone? - was: someone shouting expletives
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 03:39:59AM +0100, Nicolas Kratz wrote: > Hai. I already wasted too much time on that lost case. Would that be a > good time to ask for other people's killfile configurations for mutt? Mutt has no filtering options, as do most traditional (ie, not Windowsish) MUAs. You want procmail. If you don't want to have to learn procmail just for this one instance, also get dotfile-procmail. You can then run dotfile and select the procmail options ot set up and generate a procmailrc. Hope this helps. - -- .''`. Baloo Ursidae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+g753J5vLSqVpK2kRAtMvAKCInE5HSRSj5DrI2lhWqyAbRTOsTgCeLcDS X7aapskOaqLRX0xT3f0Kypk= =E9pq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 09:10:04PM -0500, Hall Stevenson wrote: > People, control yourselves Please take MY message as a reminder to > ignore his. Please ?? I just emailed his abuse department for harassment. With a little luck, it'll solve itself shortly. - -- .''`. Baloo Ursidae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+g74LJ5vLSqVpK2kRAt7NAJ4oKI//zBM+TFTCC8anvJpJ4QTI7wCfUfkE 1DX5Wk8OjewWsyvUygXXhog= =f/nR -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2003 #1042
On Thursday 27 March 2003 07:49 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 05:53:52PM -0500, Jeremiah C. Foster wrote: > > As a Red Hat user, I have found Debian to be a little odd frankly. Why is > > Woody using so much ancient software? > > Huh? I've got no idea what you are talking about, sorry. Well I mean that there are lots of applications that are old in Woody. > If you want the > latest funky stuff, run sid. If you want stability, run woody. You can't > have both at the same time. I am beginning to grok Debian's philosophy regarding that. > When I think about it (and look at the uptime of 53 days for my main box > running unstable), perhaps you can have both... Uptime is nice but I would like to use Tramp in Emacs and other current software. I am able to do this without crashing under Red Hat. [ Since they have moved to a non-free update system I am switching to Debian.] If I have Woody installed, how do I upgrade to unstable? Thanks, Jeremiah -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xpdf
On 27 Mar 2003 21:22:16 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian P. Flaherty) wrote: > talk, but it is not an elegant solution. I use fvwm with a 3x3 > virtual desktop. I simply sized gv so that one of the nine views of > the virtual desktop was the slide. The menu bar, sidebar, and > scrollbars were off the screen on the adjacent portions of the virtual > desktop, so it looked like the fullscreen slideshow. HTH. That's a great hack. I wish I'd thought of it when I gave a presentation last month. Kevin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
unsubscribe
of their highest uptimes. Tab-completing on "ud" without the > ud package installed expands to ud-ldap, so it's not a binary name > conflict, just a minor glitch in the ud-ldap manpage. I think. > > Is this something that is catered for in the installation of packages, > or is it a conflict for which I should file a bug? If the latter, which > package should it be under? Neither ldap-utils nor ud have any bugs > associated with this ... Please file a bug against the ldap-utils package asking that the NAME section of its man page be corrected to describe ud-ldap rather than ud. Just to confirm, do you really mean that 'man ud-ldap' gives you the man page for "ud - The uptime daemon" rather than "ud - interactive LDAP Directory Server query program"? If so, that would also be a bug in man-db. What version of the man-db package is installed, and what does 'accessdb | grep ^ud' say? Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 14:02:40 -0800 From: Vineet Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Newbee-ish X and root question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wac7ysb48OaltWcw" Content-Disposition: inline --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Vineet Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030327 01:41 PST]: > Please, please, please, don't use xhost. Really. >=20 > Better alternatives: xauth, su -m, ssh -X And (oh yeah, duh) sudo. good times, Vineet --=20 http://www.doorstop.net/ --=20 "Computer Science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes." -- E.W. Dijkstra --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE+g3UA7z3S33fUb9ERAm95AJ929klNJaPneIIV0hEitVSmgfIUFQCgroxO X3JDdymbPruy3PZBxk4G3to= =wq33 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --wac7ysb48OaltWcw-- Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 17:05:39 -0500 From: Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thursday 27 March 2003 07:38 am, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 12:38:27AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > If Henry Ford had your attitude, autos would have never been for more > > than mechanics. > > With over five times as many people being killed by autos in the US per > year as died in the terrorist attacks back in '01, not to mention the > pollution, noise, and roughly 50% of livable space in cities being > sacraficed to the transporatation and storage of autos, I think the > would might have been a better place had Ford had this attitude. So you're saying autos are a Bad Thing (tm)?=20 Hey, if you don't like autos, why do you participate in using them? If y= ou do=20 think we'd be better off and that autos are such a curse (no pun intended= --=20 curse, not curses), as a Quaker, I have connections with Mennonites and=20 Amish. I can certainly help you find a community where they use horses a= nd=20 buggies instead of autos. While you say (part not quoted here) that I picked the worst impossible=20 metaphor to make my point, you seem to talk your talk but not walk your w= alk. =20 If one is to take you at your word, then you take part in using autos eve= n=20 when you consider them bad (or you at least ride in them), and feel the w= orld=20 would be much better off if the automobile had never been invented. Are = you=20 really trying to make such a far reaching statement? Can you back it up? I might add that I use a bicycle for a good deal of my transportation. I= =20 don't have trouble with cars getting in my way or running me down. If yo= u=20 feel so strongly about cars being a bad thing, what do you do to reduce t= heir=20 use? Do you avoid driving and use other transportation? Yes, people get killed and maimed in auto accidents. Yes, there are care= less=20 drivers. But for your point to be valid, you would have to argue that we= =20 would be better off without them than we are with them (in which case how= =20 many lives would we lose because non-auto-accident victims never get medi= cal=20 attention in time because of distance -- amo
Re: sylpheed-doc package broken?
I understand that apt doesn't know anything about packages other than what it't told about dependencies and conflicts. Let's get to the big picture -- is the doc there to support the use of the binary, or is the binary there to support the use of the doc? If we can agree that the binary is primary and the doc is secondary, then we should be able to agree that what happened to the original poster should not happen. The question then is what to do about it. Kevin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I cannot unsubscribe. It will not let me unsubscribe. I stillreceive hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of emails and nobody reallyseems to care except me. WIll someone help me please?
At 2003-03-28T01:04:58Z, eauclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > the administrator will not help me Did. You. Read. The. Advice. You. Were. Given? -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
killfile, anyone? - was: someone shouting expletives
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 09:10:04PM -0500, Hall Stevenson wrote: > * eauclair ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030327 20:47]: > > The FUCKING list administrator will NOT unsubscribe. > > People, control yourselves Please take MY message as a reminder to > ignore his. Please ?? > > Hall > Hai. I already wasted too much time on that lost case. Would that be a good time to ask for other people's killfile configurations for mutt? Cheers, Nick -- x--x | What your soldier wants -- really, really wants -- | |is no-one shooting back at him. | | (Terry Pratchett, alt.fan.pratchett) | |--| | Nicolas Kratz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | x--x pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: sylpheed-doc package broken?
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 05:57:42PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 22:21:34 + > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sure; not one that filing's going to particularly help, though ... > > If you're saying the maintainer will ignore it, I guess that's possible. No, I'm saying the maintainer can't do anything about it now. > But if the maintainer is in the habit of specifying dependencies this > way, the issue will likely return in future upgrades, unless it's fixed. That's perhaps true, yes ... -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I cannot unsubscribe. It will not let me unsubscribe. I still receive hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of emails and nobody really seems to care except me. WIll someone help me please?
eauclair said: > > help me i have over 6000 emails so far > > the administrator will not help me it's not that people here don't care(some probably don't) its that people here have no control over it. We can't help you. We have no power over the debian mail servers/admins that run them nor your mail server/admin that runs it. if it were my system and for some reason I could not unbsubscribe(which has never happened, I've tested it many times and it's always worked for me), I would configure my MTA to reject messages from the debian mail server, or configure my firewall to block that IP totally so it never hits my mail server(thus filling log files). Most mailing list managers will automatically unsubscribe users after an excessive number of bounces(I think I was automatically unsubscribed once). that'd be my best suggestion. nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get dist-upgrade bails
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 18:03:42 -0500 (EST) Patrick Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Note all the packages not fully installed or removed; then, when I > proceed, here are messages referring to the package which seems to be > causing the problem: > > Preconfiguring packages ... > (Reading database ... 89637 files and directories currently > installed.) Preparing to replace gdk-imlib-dev 1.9.14-2 (using > .../gdk-imlib-dev_1.9.14-6_i386.deb) ... > Unpacking replacement gdk-imlib-dev ... > dpkg: error processing > /var/cache/apt/archives/gdk-imlib-dev_1.9.14-6_i386.deb (--unpack): > trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/imlib-config', which is also in package > imlib-base > Then a bunch of Unpacking and Selecting ... then > > Errors were encountered while processing: > /var/cache/apt/archives/gdk-imlib-dev_1.9.14-6_i386.deb > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) "Wrong order" isn't the problem here. dpkg tells you exactly why its failing: "trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/imlib-config', which is also in package imlib-base" This is the dpkg version of "general protection fault". A package is trying to mess with another package's files. dpkg caught what might be a problem and stopped. It' probably safe in this situation to do "dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/gdk-imlib-dev_1.9.14-6_i386.deb". "man dpkg" and read about "--force-things" before you do this. When that completes do "apt-get dist-upgrade" again. Kevin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian's release support policy
ow said: > Recent changes to Redhat support policy > (http://www.redhat.com/apps/support/errata/) got me somewhat concerned. > > Does Debian have an official policy regarding how long security updates > and critical bug fixes will be provided for a release (e.g. six months, > one year, etc)? not really. last I heard debian 2.2 will be supported for security until about june 2003. by contrast, debian 2.1 was dropped about 8-12 weeks after debian 2.2 came out..debian got quite a bit of upset users from that move(including me), so they supported debian 2.2 for longer. though it would be nice to see a official statement of approx when support will be ended, i got my info from the mailing list archives. most users out there probably don't know that potato will get dropped soon. nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xpdf
David Z Maze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Obvious poking around doesn't suggest a way for gv or ghostview to do > full-screen mode. You might be able to put something together quickly > that embeds gs; if it were me and I cared quite enough, I'd spend an > hour or so trying to figure out if a quick hack was possible. Good > luck... If time is short, you might consider this. I just did it for a job talk, but it is not an elegant solution. I use fvwm with a 3x3 virtual desktop. I simply sized gv so that one of the nine views of the virtual desktop was the slide. The menu bar, sidebar, and scrollbars were off the screen on the adjacent portions of the virtual desktop, so it looked like the fullscreen slideshow. HTH. Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: I cannot unsubscribe. It will not let me unsubscribe. I stillreceive hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of emails and nobody really seemsto care except me. WIll someone help me please?
help me i have over 6000 emails so far the administrator will not help me - Original Message - From: "Paul Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 1:02 AM Subject: Re: I cannot unsubscribe. It will not let me unsubscribe. I still receive hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of emails and nobody really seems to care except me. WIll someone help me please? > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 11:13:25PM -0500, eauclair wrote: > > I subscribed as eaulcair @ optonline .com, but by ISP is changing my email > > addresss to eauclair @ optonline .net. I can receive emails to both > > addresses, but can only send under the eauclair @ optline .net identity. So > > now, I cannot unsubscribe. > > Damn, dude, did you even *read* the replies you got? You did get a > couple of good suggestions. You're obviously getting the list OK, so > why not read the replies when you post? > > > Can you unsubscribe me please? > > I am not you, nor am I the listmaster. No. > > - -- > .''`. Baloo Ursidae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > : :' :proud Debian admin and user > `. `'` > `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE+gpQJJ5vLSqVpK2kRAhKhAKCszfiIluHMEcJtWqM9Fw/9vf8DRwCeNtCO > /GJzv7c94d95H/KXhLe07Hc= > =zTyX > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Help
* Kris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030327 15:59 PST]: > I recently downloaded a .deb file how to I actually install it. The deb > package was not a standard deb package and I am so new I don't know how to > setup a standard .deb file. Please help As Seneca says, to manually install a .deb you can use # dpkg -i foo.deb (as root). This is a pretty uncommon action on Debian machines, though. Downloading and installing manually is the (sucky) way of rpm. Instead, we use apt to retrieve packages automatically. You'll need to configure an /etc/apt/sources.list file with some lines for a debian archive. Then try running dselect or aptitude to browse the available packages, and be able to select packages to be automatically downloaded and installed. It'll even take care of all of the dependencies for you. Also, you'll get better answers if you ask better questions. For starters, on an email list, that means using a decent Subject. Probably if you're using the words "newbie" or "help", you don't have a decent subject. A better subject would have been "how to install a .deb?". Keep it brief, but informative. Even just throwing in keywords freeform will yield you better-than-average subject lines (e.g. ".deb install"). good times, Vineet > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- http://www.doorstop.net/ -- Microsoft has argued that open source is bad for business, but you have to ask, "Whose business? Theirs, or yours?" --Tim O'Reilly pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] Sacramento broadband ???
* Michael D. Schleif ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030327 19:36]: > Anybody reading this live in Sacramento, CA? > > My son is moving there from Chicago. He's hooked on good cablemodem > service from attbi. > > What is available in Sacramento? Try this site, http://www.broadbandreports.com/ (formerly dslreports.com). Hall -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian's release support policy
Recent changes to Redhat support policy (http://www.redhat.com/apps/support/errata/) got me somewhat concerned. Does Debian have an official policy regarding how long security updates and critical bug fixes will be provided for a release (e.g. six months, one year, etc)? Thanks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Sacramento broadband ???
* Michael D. Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030327 16:32 PST]: > Anybody reading this live in Sacramento, CA? > > My son is moving there from Chicago. He's hooked on good cablemodem > service from attbi. > > What is available in Sacramento? I'd recommend browsing the reviews at http://www.broadbandreports.com/ (formerly dslreports). good times, Vineet -- http://www.doorstop.net/ -- One nation, indivisible, with equality, liberty, and justice for all. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] Sacramento broadband ???
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 06:09:45PM -0600, Michael D. Schleif wrote: > Anybody reading this live in Sacramento, CA? > > My son is moving there from Chicago. He's hooked on good cablemodem > service from attbi. > > What is available in Sacramento? Comcast (formerly ATTBI) is available, as is both PacBell and Roseville DSL (depending on where your son is going to be living). Several apartment complexes out here have service provided through a company called Interquest, which is fantastic. -- Don Werve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Unix System Administrator) Yorn desh born, der ritt de gitt der gue, Orn desh, dee born desh, de umn bork! bork! bork! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: sylpheed-doc package broken?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm saying there are probably several ways to resolve this, but throwing > out a binary (without an available upgrade) because the doc package for > a later release is available is not one of them. Well, the normal apt behavior when you request to install a particular package and that package conflicts with things you already have installed, is that it assumes you were serious about wanting to install the new package, and warns you that this will require the removal of the others. You can then cancel the changes if you want. This is reasonable behavior, and it's simple, consistent, and easy to understand. If you're suggesting that the installation of a new doc package over a conflicting, previously-installed binary package should be different than if it were the other way around (previously-installed doc package, new binary), then I don't at all agree. A package is a package is a package. Apt shouldn't treat one package differently from another just because of the section it's in. I think when you describe the specific case of an upgraded doc package for which a corresponding binary package is not yet available, you are assuming too much knowledge on apt's part. It probably has no idea that sylpheed and sylpheed-doc are related. It knows about declared dependencies and conflicts, and that's it. So if sylpheed-doc_X conflicts with sylpheed_X-1, that's no different than libfoo-c102 conflicting with libfoo (which we got in the gcc-3.2 transition for C++ libraries). Now, if sylpheed-doc had "Depends: sylpheed", that probably would have done what you wanted, but why should the documentation depend on the program? Shouldn't I be able to read about a program without installing it first? Now, if I have both the program and the docs installed, it's not unreasonable to want the two to be in sync (otherwise users might be confused by inconsistencies between them), but I don't think you can express that in package dependencies, because the dependency isn't of one package on the other, but merely that the two be in sync IF both are installed. Having each package conflict with outdated versions of the other is the closest you can get, I believe. And that's what sylpheed and sylpheed-doc do. Craig pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[OT] Sacramento broadband ???
Anybody reading this live in Sacramento, CA? My son is moving there from Chicago. He's hooked on good cablemodem service from attbi. What is available in Sacramento? -- Best Regards, mds mds resource 888.250.3987 - Dare to fix things before they break . . . - Our capacity for understanding is inversely proportional to how much we think we know. The more I know, the more I know I don't know . . . -- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Newbie Help
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 03:37:50PM -0800, Kris wrote: > I recently downloaded a .deb file how to I actually install it. The deb > package was not a standard deb package and I am so new I don't know how to > setup a standard .deb file. Please help Is "dpkg -i foo.deb" what you want? -- Seneca [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Integrated Printer/FAX/Copier/Scanner machines supported by Linux???
Hanasaki JiJi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Integrated Printer/FAX/Copier machines supported by Linux??? > > Anyone know of one of these beasties that works with linux? Debain? > incoming / outgoing fax > scanner > printer I've been happy with the HP OfficeJet G85 with the hpoj and hpijs packages to provide print and scan support. I can't speak about the fax features since I fax manually. It copies too, of course. -- Bill Wohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with horde/imp
The horde and IMP mailing lists are both quite active and helpful as well: http://www.horde.org/mail/ -mp * UnKnown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030327 07:47] spake thusly: > Hi: > Today i started to recive a strange message from the web mail, in a > sertein moment a user was reading his mail trough imp then the server drop > her out with the message " Either you have logged in incorrectly or your > login has expired. Please login again. ", all the accounts seam to be block > by the webmail. But in the other hand they are all accessible trough ssh or > console. The page is redirect to https instead of the normal http. > > If any one can give a clue I just run out of ideas. > > Thx, > rak > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- I think computer viruses should count as life. I think it says something about human nature that the only life we have created so far is purely destructive. We've created life in our own image. -Steven Hawking -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks
I have but one comment, it isn't "easier" or "harder" with a graphical interface, it is different. For myself, I think in lists and never in pictures, I think text mode screens are great and graphical interfaces needless complications made by idiots solely to make my life difficult, however I recognise I am an extreme case and that there are other perfectly sane experience and technically competant sysadmins who take a diametrically opposed view. Oh and thinking about it I lied I have other comments, not every distro needs to anything of the sort, the reason why many distributions are an advantage over a single one is that they are different, maybe it would help some people if "every distro that wants to cater to Desktop users implemented a GUI installer" but so what? Some distributions will do so, people working on other distributions will look at these and say either "Wow that's good, lets do something like that" or "good idea but if we did it this way it would be even better" or "stupid bloody waste of time what prat did that?". These people will then act according to their opinions and the users will choose. Now if we are talking a perfect installer, I vote for a single floppy that I can insert in the front of a brand new clean machine plugged into my network, answer 4 or 5 simple questions and it goes away and installs a complete system from the net over the next hour or so, that would be a text mode installer for everyone to love! Jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Convincing someone to switch to Linux
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 06:10:20PM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > [Note: in case the tone came out too serious, this is actually a joke!] Rest assured, I laughed my ass off. Thanks for saving the evening. ;-) Still chuckling, Nick -- x--x | And AC said: "Let there be light!" | |And there was light...| | (Asimov, 1956) | |--| | Nicolas Kratz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | x--x pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: resizing windows
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 05:53:52PM -0500, Jeremiah C. Foster wrote: > As a Red Hat user, I have found Debian to be a little odd frankly. Why is > Woody using so much ancient software? Huh? I've got no idea what you are talking about, sorry. If you want the latest funky stuff, run sid. If you want stability, run woody. You can't have both at the same time. Still, I don't see what's ancient about stable. My server and laptop are running woody, no complaints. When I think about it (and look at the uptime of 53 days for my main box running unstable), perhaps you can have both... Cheers, Nick -- x--x | Benford's Corollary to Clarke's Third Law: | | Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.| | -- Gregory Benford. Foundation's Fear. 1997 | |--| | Nicolas Kratz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | x--x pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[FIXED] Re: apt-get dist-upgrade bails
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 at 4:46pm, I wrote: :I decided to go to 'testing', so edited my sources.list, did 'apt-get :update', 'apt-get dist-upgrade' which, after installing lots of packages, :bailed with the following error: : :Errors were encountered while processing: : /var/cache/apt/archives/gdk-imlib-dev_1.9.14-6_i386.deb :E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) After Colin Watson told me to look for the actual error :) I used aptitude (with which I'm most comfortable installing packages), purged the offending package (and got no complaints about dependency problems), and then allowed aptitude to go ahead and install all the pending packages, which seems to be proceeding without a problem. I'll do apt-get dist-upgrade one more time, just to be sure I've not missed anything. Thanks for your patience! Patrick -- Patrick Wiseman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux user #17943 *Google First, Ask Later* -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newbie Help
I recently downloaded a .deb file how to I actually install it. The deb package was not a standard deb package and I am so new I don't know how to setup a standard .deb file. Please help -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Off Topic, But Thought I'd Ask - Shell Programming
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 12:30:33PM -0800, Alex Togstad wrote: > Hey! > > I know this is a tad off topic, so I'll make it on topic. > > I'm doing a bunch of shell programming on my Debian box :0) And I'm > looking for any type of mailing list such as this one, but for shell > scripting purposes. people round here tend to be quite gurusome... they have helped me with shell [bash] scripts so have a go -ask! hugh ps: dont ask to ask, just ask. if this is the wrong place you will be redirected by popular demand. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[SOLVE]Re: Problems with horde/imp
Ok: The problem was rather simple, the sistem depends on the imap to access the mail. After checking the horde imp apache apache-ssl and posgresql, I look to the simple and restart the inetd to reinciate the daemond. And magic works out. Thx to all for the help. Cheers, rak On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 08:23:07AM -0300, UnKnown wrote: > Hi: > Today i started to recive a strange message from the web mail, in a > sertein moment a user was reading his mail trough imp then the server drop > her out with the message " Either you have logged in incorrectly or your > login has expired. Please login again. ", all the accounts seam to be block > by the webmail. But in the other hand they are all accessible trough ssh or > console. The page is redirect to https instead of the normal http. > > If any one can give a clue I just run out of ideas. > > Thx, > rak > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Convincing someone to switch to Linux
And it will probably have an industry standard power supply/motherboard connector (unlike the Dell). See, e.g. http://www.upgradingandrepairingpcs.com/articles/upgrade3_01_01.asp Why I am positively aghast!!! How dare you even suggest that a major hardware (or even software) even consider something as esoteric as an industry standard. [As I reminisce about my days own a (very proprietary) Emerson 286 PC.] I mean, how will they keep people locked in to their product. You can't possibly be suggesting that they try and produce a superior product or provide superior service. I can clearly see that you have been a part of this "so-called" free software movement for too long. 8-) -Roberto [Note: in case the tone came out too serious, this is actually a joke!] _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Official Exim 4 package
Steve Lamb wrote: > On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 10:31:13 -0800 > Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maybe I should stop worry about users who don't notice suggests, they > > clearly know what they're doing. :-P > > Or make a suggests/recommends which break a package a requires? All of my suggests and recommends are exactly in line with policy. (And "requires"? Someone has been spoking rpm. :-) > certainly haven't run into any problems with leaving off suggests and > recommends. Of course I can't think of a package I use where either of those > causes it to break utterly. Perhaps you should reread the examples I gave in my mail, none are of anything that "breaks utterly". -- see shy jo pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: sylpheed-doc package broken?
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 14:31:46 -0800 Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are you objecting to the idea that a doc package and a binary package > can conflict simply because the documentation is for a different > version of the program? Or are you suggesting that apt should simply > refuse to install a doc package when a conflicting binary package is > already installed? In the latter case, your complaint is really with > apt, not with sylpheed or sylpheed-doc. I don't know if apt treats doc > packages differently from binary ones, and I don't see why it should. > It seems like needless complexity in a program that is quite complex > enough already. I'm saying there are probably several ways to resolve this, but throwing out a binary (without an available upgrade) because the doc package for a later release is available is not one of them. Kevin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get dist-upgrade bails
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 at 10:17pm, Colin Watson wrote: :On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 08:40:39AM -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote: :> I decided to go to 'testing', so edited my sources.list, did 'apt-get :> update', 'apt-get dist-upgrade' which, after installing lots of packages, :> bailed with the following error: :> :> Errors were encountered while processing: :> /var/cache/apt/archives/gdk-imlib-dev_1.9.14-6_i386.deb :> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) : :There will (should) have been a more specific error before that. We need :to see it. OK - when I re-run apt-get dist-upgrade, I get this: Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Calculating Upgrade... Done The following NEW packages will be installed: libgsl0 libgtk-common libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-common libmpich1.0 libnet-smtp-server-perl libpango-common libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-common mpich-common snd-gtk spamc tcl8.4-dev The following packages have been kept back fetchmail libgnome-dev 129 packages upgraded, 13 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. 321 packages not fully installed or removed. Need to get 68.0kB/65.5MB of archives. After unpacking 18.9MB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Note all the packages not fully installed or removed; then, when I proceed, here are messages referring to the package which seems to be causing the problem: Preconfiguring packages ... (Reading database ... 89637 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace gdk-imlib-dev 1.9.14-2 (using .../gdk-imlib-dev_1.9.14-6_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement gdk-imlib-dev ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/gdk-imlib-dev_1.9.14-6_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/imlib-config', which is also in package imlib-base Then a bunch of Unpacking and Selecting ... then Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/gdk-imlib-dev_1.9.14-6_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) Is something happening in the wrong order? Thanks for the assistance, and the reassurance that my system's not too badly hosed! Patrick -- Patrick Wiseman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux user #17943 *Google First, Ask Later* -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sylpheed-doc package broken?
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 22:21:34 + Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sure; not one that filing's going to particularly help, though ... If you're saying the maintainer will ignore it, I guess that's possible. But if the maintainer is in the habit of specifying dependencies this way, the issue will likely return in future upgrades, unless it's fixed. Kevin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get dist-upgrade bails
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 08:40:39 -0500 (EST) Patrick Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Errors were encountered while processing: > /var/cache/apt/archives/gdk-imlib-dev_1.9.14-6_i386.deb > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) > > So, how badly hosed is my system, and what do I need to do to complete > the upgrade? I sometimes get an error like this. Doing "apt-get -f install" usually fixes whatever was wrong. Kevin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: resizing windows
On Thursday 27 March 2003 04:20 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Jeremiah C. Foster wrote: > > I am having trouble resizing windows in Gnome. In KDE one can put the > > cursor over the right hand border of a particular window frame and then > > resize it. This is unavaiable in Gnome as far as I can see. > > This is not a Gnome vs. KDE thing; it just has to do with your current > window manager and what theme it is using. If you are using a fairly > ordinary Gnome configuration, then your window manager is probably > either Metacity or Sawfish. The Gnome control panel should have a > configuration tool for the one you're using. Look through the available > themes offered there and choose one that provides sizing controls > wrapped all the way around the window if that's what you want. > > Craig Actually I disagree, it _is_ a Gnome vs. KDE thing, Sawfish is the window manager for both Operating Environments (KDE and Gnome) yet behaves differently in each. I tried to change the appearance of windows in the Gnome control panel but that control panel shows no place to change the window title bar. I have switched to KDE for the time being since Gnome has now totally flaked out. As a Red Hat user, I have found Debian to be a little odd frankly. Why is Woody using so much ancient software? Jeremiah -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get dist-upgrade bails
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 at 10:10pm, Jonathan Matthews wrote: :On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 08:40:39AM -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote: :> I decided to go to 'testing', so edited my sources.list, did 'apt-get :> update', 'apt-get dist-upgrade' which, after installing lots of packages, :> bailed with the following error: :> :> Errors were encountered while processing: :> /var/cache/apt/archives/gdk-imlib-dev_1.9.14-6_i386.deb :> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) :> :> So, how badly hosed is my system, and what do I need to do to complete the :> upgrade? : :FWIW, it's advised to do : : :apt-get update :apt-get install apt dpkg tar ( ... any others anyone?) :apt-get dist-upgrade : :... rather than just a straight update; dist-upgrade. OK - that wasn't obvious from 'man apt-get'. :In this case, what does /another/ apt-get dist-upgrade do? I haven't tried that, but I guess it can't do any harm. Patrick -- Patrick Wiseman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux user #17943 *Google First, Ask Later* -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get dist-upgrade bails
Apologies for the duplicate; the upgrade had turned off exim, apparently, and I tried resending before realising that was the problem, so there were two identical messages in the queue. Patrick -- Patrick Wiseman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux user #17943 *Google First, Ask Later* -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Difference between "woody" and "stable" in apt Default-Release?
Uwe Storbeck wrote: What am I doing wrong? You're tring to use woody-proposed-updates which is really neither stable nor woody. If it[pulling woody-proposed-updates] works when you set Default Release to woody then my suspicion is that it wants a default release of either stable/testing/unstable and is just ignoring a default release of woody. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sylpheed-doc package broken?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It may resolve itself when sylpheed moves into testing, but it's still a > bug. > > Installing a doc package shouldn't cause removal of a binary package, > even if the binary package an older version. Does Debian policy say anything about this? If not, then the maintainer will be within his rights to simply reject the bug report. Are you objecting to the idea that a doc package and a binary package can conflict simply because the documentation is for a different version of the program? Or are you suggesting that apt should simply refuse to install a doc package when a conflicting binary package is already installed? In the latter case, your complaint is really with apt, not with sylpheed or sylpheed-doc. I don't know if apt treats doc packages differently from binary ones, and I don't see why it should. It seems like needless complexity in a program that is quite complex enough already. Craig pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 05:05:39PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Thursday 27 March 2003 07:38 am, Paul Johnson wrote: > > With over five times as many people being killed by autos in the US per > > year as died in the terrorist attacks back in '01, not to mention the > > pollution, noise, and roughly 50% of livable space in cities being > > sacraficed to the transporatation and storage of autos, I think the > > would might have been a better place had Ford had this attitude. > > So you're saying autos are a Bad Thing (tm)? > > Hey, if you don't like autos, why do you participate in using them? [...] > I might add that I use a bicycle for a good deal of my transportation. I > don't have trouble with cars getting in my way or running me down. If you > feel so strongly about cars being a bad thing, what do you do to reduce their > use? Do you avoid driving and use other transportation? IIRC, Paul has said in the past that he gets around by bicycle virtually all the time. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: sylpheed-doc package broken?
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 04:56:35PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 12:30:44 -0800 > Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > version of sylpheed itself. Unstable has a newer sylpheed that is > > compatible with sylpheed-doc, but it hasn't been moved into testing > > yet. That's what's causing your problem. > > > > There is no need to file a bug about this; it will resolve itself when > > the unstable version of sylpheed gets into testing. > > It may resolve itself when sylpheed moves into testing, but it's still a > bug. Sure; not one that filing's going to particularly help, though ... -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get dist-upgrade bails
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 08:40:39AM -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > I decided to go to 'testing', so edited my sources.list, did 'apt-get > update', 'apt-get dist-upgrade' which, after installing lots of packages, > bailed with the following error: > > Errors were encountered while processing: > /var/cache/apt/archives/gdk-imlib-dev_1.9.14-6_i386.deb > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) There will (should) have been a more specific error before that. We need to see it. > So, how badly hosed is my system, Not very. > and what do I need to do to complete the upgrade? Probably not much, but we can't tell yet. :) -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get dist-upgrade bails
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 08:40:39AM -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > I decided to go to 'testing', so edited my sources.list, did 'apt-get > update', 'apt-get dist-upgrade' which, after installing lots of packages, > bailed with the following error: > > Errors were encountered while processing: > /var/cache/apt/archives/gdk-imlib-dev_1.9.14-6_i386.deb > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) > > So, how badly hosed is my system, and what do I need to do to complete the > upgrade? FWIW, it's advised to do apt-get update apt-get install apt dpkg tar ( ... any others anyone?) apt-get dist-upgrade ... rather than just a straight update; dist-upgrade. In this case, what does /another/ apt-get dist-upgrade do? jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks
On Thursday 27 March 2003 07:38 am, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 12:38:27AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > If Henry Ford had your attitude, autos would have never been for more > > than mechanics. > > With over five times as many people being killed by autos in the US per > year as died in the terrorist attacks back in '01, not to mention the > pollution, noise, and roughly 50% of livable space in cities being > sacraficed to the transporatation and storage of autos, I think the > would might have been a better place had Ford had this attitude. So you're saying autos are a Bad Thing (tm)? Hey, if you don't like autos, why do you participate in using them? If you do think we'd be better off and that autos are such a curse (no pun intended -- curse, not curses), as a Quaker, I have connections with Mennonites and Amish. I can certainly help you find a community where they use horses and buggies instead of autos. While you say (part not quoted here) that I picked the worst impossible metaphor to make my point, you seem to talk your talk but not walk your walk. If one is to take you at your word, then you take part in using autos even when you consider them bad (or you at least ride in them), and feel the world would be much better off if the automobile had never been invented. Are you really trying to make such a far reaching statement? Can you back it up? I might add that I use a bicycle for a good deal of my transportation. I don't have trouble with cars getting in my way or running me down. If you feel so strongly about cars being a bad thing, what do you do to reduce their use? Do you avoid driving and use other transportation? Yes, people get killed and maimed in auto accidents. Yes, there are careless drivers. But for your point to be valid, you would have to argue that we would be better off without them than we are with them (in which case how many lives would we lose because non-auto-accident victims never get medical attention in time because of distance -- among other things). Oh, and as a note -- I've spent most of my life working with children, as well, in psych hospitals. If you want to talk about what dangers cars are to children, I'll go call your bluff and raise what I've seen hundreds of other elements of our culture do to fsck up kids and teens. Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbee-ish X and root question
* Vineet Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030327 01:41 PST]: > Please, please, please, don't use xhost. Really. > > Better alternatives: xauth, su -m, ssh -X And (oh yeah, duh) sudo. good times, Vineet -- http://www.doorstop.net/ -- "Computer Science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes." -- E.W. Dijkstra pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: name conflict: ud / ud-ldap
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 08:24:03PM +, Jonathan Matthews wrote: > I've just noticed that "man ud-ldap" gives the same manpage as "man ud", > which is also the name of the uptime daemon package and binary. > > The ud-ldap manpage says that it represents the binary "ud", but I know > from another debian box that both root and users can execute ud to get a > summary of their highest uptimes. Tab-completing on "ud" without the > ud package installed expands to ud-ldap, so it's not a binary name > conflict, just a minor glitch in the ud-ldap manpage. I think. > > Is this something that is catered for in the installation of packages, > or is it a conflict for which I should file a bug? If the latter, which > package should it be under? Neither ldap-utils nor ud have any bugs > associated with this ... Please file a bug against the ldap-utils package asking that the NAME section of its man page be corrected to describe ud-ldap rather than ud. Just to confirm, do you really mean that 'man ud-ldap' gives you the man page for "ud - The uptime daemon" rather than "ud - interactive LDAP Directory Server query program"? If so, that would also be a bug in man-db. What version of the man-db package is installed, and what does 'accessdb | grep ^ud' say? Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sylpheed-doc package broken?
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 12:30:44 -0800 Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > version of sylpheed itself. Unstable has a newer sylpheed that is > compatible with sylpheed-doc, but it hasn't been moved into testing > yet. That's what's causing your problem. > > There is no need to file a bug about this; it will resolve itself when > the unstable version of sylpheed gets into testing. It may resolve itself when sylpheed moves into testing, but it's still a bug. Installing a doc package shouldn't cause removal of a binary package, even if the binary package an older version. Kevin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with horde/imp
Up to now i have regeneraate the openssl certificate, but it seam to be a diferent problem actually with the access to the horde it selfe. Dont know how to check if the database is working fine is anyone can give me a hand I would be thnkfull. Cheers, rak On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 08:23:07AM -0300, UnKnown wrote: > Hi: > Today i started to recive a strange message from the web mail, in a > sertein moment a user was reading his mail trough imp then the server drop > her out with the message " Either you have logged in incorrectly or your > login has expired. Please login again. ", all the accounts seam to be block > by the webmail. But in the other hand they are all accessible trough ssh or > console. The page is redirect to https instead of the normal http. > > If any one can give a clue I just run out of ideas. > > Thx, > rak > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apt-get dist-upgrade bails
I decided to go to 'testing', so edited my sources.list, did 'apt-get update', 'apt-get dist-upgrade' which, after installing lots of packages, bailed with the following error: Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/gdk-imlib-dev_1.9.14-6_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) So, how badly hosed is my system, and what do I need to do to complete the upgrade? Patrick -- Patrick Wiseman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux user #17943 *Google First, Ask Later* -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apt-get dist-upgrade bails
I decided to go to 'testing', so edited my sources.list, did 'apt-get update', 'apt-get dist-upgrade' which, after installing lots of packages, bailed with the following error: Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/gdk-imlib-dev_1.9.14-6_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) So, how badly hosed is my system, and what do I need to do to complete the upgrade? Patrick -- Patrick Wiseman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux user #17943 *Google First, Ask Later* -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Official Exim 4 package
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 09:10:32 -0600 Jamin Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Assuming that the "default" option was instituted, any packages without > this indication would be on even footing WRT what constitutes and > upgrade, right? It is possible then that to non-default versions of a > package that are not upgrade compatible (configuration files changes or > otherwise). This would bring us back to the original problem. If you were to take my "strain" example you'd be right only in that each package without default would be on equal footing in regards to being an upgrade in that none of them would ever be considered an upgrade. > Perhaps I'm simply mistaken, but I don't believe the "default" method > would scale. From what I can see, it would only address one instance of > package upgrade incompatibility. If another occurred before the > "default" changed, I believe it would break. Which is why I had suggested a field to identify which paths of packages were upgrades to one another and which weren't and then designate one path as the default to be installed with the other as options. At no time would they intermingle and it would scale from 1 to whatever. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. |-- Lenny Nero - Strange Days ---+- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Difference between "woody" and "stable" in apt Default-Release?
Hi,
I've just seen a somewhat irritating behaviour of apt-get
update/upgrade. Formerly I thought "woody" and "stable" are synonyms
for now because Woody is the current stable distribution.
I've set Default-Release to "stable" in apt.conf:
APT {
Get {
Fix-Broken "true";
Show-Upgraded "true";
Purge "true";
};
Default-Release "stable";
};
If I add woody-proposed-updates to my sources.list and do an upgrade
with apt-get update/upgrade the packages from proposed-updates won't
get installed:
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian woody-proposed-updates main contrib non-free
# apt-get upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
# apt-show-versions -a -p logcheck
logcheck1.1.1-13.1 install ok installed
logcheck1.1.1-13.1 stable
logcheck1.1.1-13.5.woody.0 proposed-updates
logcheck/stable uptodate 1.1.1-13.1
If I change Default-Release to "woody" proposed-updates get installed
as expected.
So if I want proposed-updates I have to set Default-Release to "woody"
instead of "stable". Not just understandable, but as far as good.
If I additionally want to mix stable and testing releases and use apt
pinning things will be somewhat more complicated and don't work as
expected anymore.
My preferences:
Package: *
Pin: release a=woody-proposed-updates,o=Debian,l=Debian
Pin-Priority: 999
Package: *
Pin: release a=stable,o=Debian,l=Debian
Pin-Priority: 900
Package: *
Pin: release a=sarge-proposed-updates,o=Debian,l=Debian
Pin-Priority: 777
Package: *
Pin: release a=testing,o=Debian,l=Debian
Pin-Priority: 700
If I set Default-Release to "stable" pinning works as expected, packages
will be installed from Woody by default. But as already written packages
from proposed-updates will not be installed on upgrades.
If I change Default-Release to "woody" to get the proposed-updates apt
tries to upgrade all my packages to testing on an apt-get upgrade run.
I've tried some variations in the preferences file with "woody" and
"sarge" instead of "stable" and "testing" but nothing works.
What am I doing wrong?
I want my system mostly be pinned to stable with proposed-updates
installed. Additionally I want to use a few packages from testing.
Regards
Uwe
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Re: Official Exim 4 package
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 10:31:13 -0800 Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe I should stop worry about users who don't notice suggests, they > clearly know what they're doing. :-P Or make a suggests/recommends which break a package a requires? I certainly haven't run into any problems with leaving off suggests and recommends. Of course I can't think of a package I use where either of those causes it to break utterly. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. |-- Lenny Nero - Strange Days ---+- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
creating boot cds
Hi, Just trying to learn how to make bootable installation cds. Boot cd's downloaded from the website work fine, when i raw write partboot.img, partroot.img to a a 2 floppy disks and boot using floppies it works fine. if i burn them to cd the system boots and looks like it is asking for a second floppy which has the partroot.img , if i use the floppy disk it works fine. but why do i need to insert the second floppy, i already have the partroot.img in the root directory . some how the cd i burnt is not able to know that the partroot.img image it is expecting is present in the root directory. it always stops at vfs: insert root floppy disk to load ramdisk and present enter it's the same with every linux cd i burnt right now i am trying to burn parted restoration cd. i know i am doing something wrong. i do mkisofs -r -l -o \disk.iso -b partboot.img -c boot.catalog e:\partediso thanks Srinivas __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apache segfaulting
Hi, I run a webserver for a small site and have recently found that some pages return 0 sized reply which I traced to these in the logs [Thu Mar 27 20:27:24 2003] [notice] child pid 12265 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) [Thu Mar 27 20:27:24 2003] [notice] child pid 12263 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) [Thu Mar 27 20:27:34 2003] [notice] child pid 12268 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) which was repeated quite a few times. I recently patched the kernel to fix the ptrace local root exploit and wonder if that has anything to do with this. In any case, what can I do to track this down and fix it without taking the site down for a long periods. I am running a stable distro with the last upgraded today. Any help appreciated, Regards. Shri -- Shri Shrikumar U R Byte Solutions I.T. ConsultantEdinburgh, Scotland Tel: 0845 644 4745 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.urbyte.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: sylpheed-doc package broken?
Randall Hansen wrote: > I'm trying to install the sylpheed-doc package, but it conflicts with > the slypheed package (see below). This strikes me as odd, but I don't > know enough about debs to debug it. > > I installed the doc package, copied the files, then installed Sylpheed > again (which removed the doc package, of course). So I have the docs, > but the bug remains. Should I send a bug report to the package > maintainer? First off, please wrap your lines. It's annoying seeing messages where each paragraph is a single line no matter how long it is. 72 characters or so is a good limit for line length. It appears that the version of sylpheed-doc in testing is newer than the version of sylpheed itself. Unstable has a newer sylpheed that is compatible with sylpheed-doc, but it hasn't been moved into testing yet. That's what's causing your problem. There is no need to file a bug about this; it will resolve itself when the unstable version of sylpheed gets into testing. For your reference, I used the following commands: apt-cache policy sylpheed sylpheed-doc dpkg -p sylpheed-doc "apt-cache policy" tells you what versions of one or more packages are available, and which branch of Debian has them. "dpkg -p" gives you details about a particular package. Here is what apt-cache told me: sylpheed: Installed: 0.8.11-1 Candidate: 0.8.11-1 Version Table: *** 0.8.11-1 0 500 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 0.7.4-4 0 500 http://http.us.debian.org testing/main Packages sylpheed-doc: Installed: 20020827-2 Candidate: 20020827-2 Version Table: *** 20020827-2 0 500 http://http.us.debian.org testing/main Packages 500 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status So we see here that sylpheed 0.8.11-1 is in unstable, and 0.7.4-4 is in testing; also, sylpheed-doc 20020827-2 is in both unstable and testing. (My apt configuration only includes testing and unstable, not stable, so it won't tell me what's in stable.) Here is what dpkg told me: Package: sylpheed-doc Priority: optional Section: doc Installed-Size: 1196 Maintainer: Gustavo Noronha Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Architecture: all Version: 20020827-2 Conflicts: sylpheed (<= 0.7.6-3), sylpheed-claws (<= 0.7.6claws16-1) Filename: pool/main/s/sylpheed-doc/sylpheed-doc_20020827-2_all.deb Size: 312352 MD5sum: 4d347a00da586d694677dc4253dd4b52 Description: Light weight e-mail client with GTK+ (documentation) This package holds the documentation for sylpheed. It is an html manual which describes all the features of sylpheed. . All translations are included in this package. Note that it says "Conflicts: sylpheed (<= 0.7.6-3)". Testing has only sylpheed 0.7.4-4, which is <= 0.7.6-3, and therefore conflicts. Hope this helps. Craig pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: IDE hard disk problem...
sean finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > out of curiosity, has the value for > > CONFIG_IDEDISK_MULTI_MODE > > changed between these two kernels? No, it's been unset in all my kernels. > also, have you tried messing around with hdparm at all (perhaps finishing > that backup first is in order:)? I've just tried one change with hdparm, disabling DMA, which had no effect. That is, it didn't fix the problem. I've also now tried rebooting with various old kernels, and seem to see the problem on pretty much all of them. -- David Roundy http://civet.berkeley.edu/droundy/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Off Topic, But Thought I'd Ask - Shell Programming
Hey! I know this is a tad off topic, so I'll make it on topic. I'm doing a bunch of shell programming on my Debian box :0) And I'm looking for any type of mailing list such as this one, but for shell scripting purposes. I would ask my shell programming questions here, but I thought it would be off topic. Can anyone suggestion any forums, and or places to go for this help? I've got a few e-books, and been searching google.com for everything. But its time I seek higher learning, and people with more knowledge in this subject matter. Thank you!! Alex Togstad Web Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] --Custom Built Servers the way you want them. Ask me for a free quote!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
name conflict: ud / ud-ldap
I've just noticed that "man ud-ldap" gives the same manpage as "man ud", which is also the name of the uptime daemon package and binary. The ud-ldap manpage says that it represents the binary "ud", but I know from another debian box that both root and users can execute ud to get a summary of their highest uptimes. Tab-completing on "ud" without the ud package installed expands to ud-ldap, so it's not a binary name conflict, just a minor glitch in the ud-ldap manpage. I think. Is this something that is catered for in the installation of packages, or is it a conflict for which I should file a bug? If the latter, which package should it be under? Neither ldap-utils nor ud have any bugs associated with this ... Running mostly testing & a little unstable. jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks
Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 06:02:33PM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: >> True. Perhaps it would have been better stated by saying that every distro >> that wants to cater to Desktop users needs to implement a GUI installer >> (and many other GUI tools). > > Why? The *user* has zero business installing the box. Yes, Joe Moron > benefits from having GUI tools, because they mean he doesn't have to think, > but it matters not for the installer. Well, having administered many flavors of Unix boxes, I have to say I miss the Digital Unix (or whatever they called it around 4.0 coming out) graphical disk partitioning tool. A lot of the time, it's just easier to be able to adjust partition sizes with a slider than to reduce a partition by some amount so you can make another bigger. And before they had the graphical one, I used ed to edit... whatever file disklabel read to install the disk label. I'm hardly a moron, but some things *are* easier with graphical tools. Point and click is more nearly random-access for selecting a few things from a long list than a curses interface (why I tend to prefer configuring my kernels with "make xconfig"). Reading documentation is also easier in a window system, if it can be brought up in a separate window. I'm sure there's other benefits that could accrue to even seasoned sysadmins, and if it lowers the bar for the skill required to install debian, this is a bad thing because? I'm not for simplemindedly glossing over details the installer actually should know and understand, but that's somewhat orthogonal to a graphical installer. -- Eric E. Moore pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Convincing someone to switch to Linux
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 06:48:26AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: [snip] > > I can go into any local-owned computer store and they'll sell me a > machine comparable to Dell's offerings at around half the price and > they'll back thier work. $1500 is quite expensive for a single PC. > > - -- > .''`. Baloo Ursidae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > : :' :proud Debian admin and user > `. `'` And it will probably have an industry standard power supply/motherboard connector (unlike the Dell). See, e.g. http://www.upgradingandrepairingpcs.com/articles/upgrade3_01_01.asp Cheers -- Martin Hillyer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
