Re: Compiler choice for OSS (WAS: Re: Trouble with Mozilla Java plugin)

2003-06-01 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Sunday 01 June 2003 14:09, Roberto Sanchez wrote:
> This is something I have always wondered about.  Why do OSS projects use
> gcc for every platform except Windows?  I thought one of the great
> advantages of gcc was that is was ported to pretty much every operating
> system.  Why not just always use gcc?  Then there would be no need to
> maintain separate makefiles for different compilers.

It's about choice. Compilers are one field where these words actually make 
sense. If you want a working, free compiler that has an OS built around it 
(try to compile the kernel with something else and you'll see what I mean), 
GCC is fine. If you want high speed and the last bit of optimization, you 
might be better off with something else like Intel's ICC which can be a _lot_ 
faster for some tasks. If you want some C++ features like templates to work 
the way they're specified, there's Comeau's compiler frontend. And if you 
want ABI compatibility on a C++ based system (Windows), then you'd better 
stick to the compiler that's supposed to support it.

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Lost user access to dos partition

2003-06-01 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel
The following used to work before changing to testing:
[as user]

cd /dosd

In which /dosd is an ms-dos partition (containing my mp3's).
/etc/fstab says:

/dev/hda5  /dosd   vfat defaults,user,rw0  1

But after the upgrade I get

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cd /dosd
-bash: cd: /dosd: Permission denied

I seem to lack execute permission on the directory.

/dosd is a mount point; when the device /dev/hda5 is *not* mounted
on it, ls -al shows

drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 May 28 21:35 dosd

However when it *is* mounted I get

drwxr--r--   13 root root 4096 Jan  1  1970 dosd

A very ancient date. Strange. And the permissions have changed, as
a result, apparently, of mounting the device onto this mount
point. Anyway, now I can run xmms only when I am root. It used to
work fine before the upgrade. Anyone knows what is the matter here?

Regards, Jan


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ALSA: Kernel Oops...

2003-06-01 Thread DJTB
Hi,

I switched to unstable (from testing) a week ago, and since then, I can't get 
ALSA working for my ICE1712 chip.

This is what I did:
- I downloaded alsa-source, to build a kernel module. (using make-kpkg 
modules_image)
- I installed alsa-base and alsa-utils

This is what I get when I try to install the generated alsa_modules-2.4.20... 
deb file:

Wrote ALSA configuration to /etc/alsa/modutils/0.9
/var/lib/dpkg/info/alsa-base.postinst: line 103:   873 Segmentation fault  
alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1
Setting up alsa-modules-2.4.20 (0.9.3c-1+10.00.Custom)
Configuration file for ALSA 0.9 exists.
Attempting to start.

   Storing ALSA mixer settings ... /etc/init.d/alsa: line 144:   954 
Segmentation fault  alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1
   failed
   invoke-rc.d: initscript alsa, action "restart" failed.
   dpkg: error processing alsa-modules-2.4.20 (--install):
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 alsa-modules-2.4.20


And from /var/log/messages:

Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel:  <1>Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer 
dereference at virtual address 
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel:  printing eip:
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel: c0112703
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel: Oops: 
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel: CPU:0
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel: EIP:0010:[__wake_up+51/160]Not tainted
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel: EFLAGS: 00010097
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel: eax: d7061984   ebx: d7061984   ecx:    
edx: 0003
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel: esi: d7061988   edi: 0001   ebp: cd721f2c   
esp: cd721f14
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel: ds: 0018   es: 0018   ss: 0018
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel: Process alsactl (pid: 873, stackpage=cd721000)
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel: Stack: d7a8b640 d589d0c0 d7061800 d7061988 0286 
0003 d706194c d88584d5
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel:d68d0980 0282 d706195c cf137680 d706195c 
cf137680 d8859d4d d7061800
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel:d589d0c0  cf1376a0 d706195c d589d0c0 
d68d0980 c142e300 d3d00c40
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel: Call Trace:[] [] 
[fput+76/224] [filp_close+85/96] [sys_close+67/96]
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel:   [system_call+51/56]
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel:
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel: Code: 8b 01 85 45 fc 74 4c 31 c0 9c 5e fa c7 01 00 
00 00 00 83 79
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel:  <1>Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer 
dereference at virtual address 
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel:  printing eip:
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel: c0112703
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel: Oops: 
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel: CPU:0
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel: EIP:0010:[__wake_up+51/160]Not tainted
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel: EFLAGS: 00010097
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel: eax: d7061984   ebx: d7061984   ecx:    
edx: 0003
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel: esi: d7061988   edi: 0001   ebp: cd753f2c   
esp: cd753f14
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel: ds: 0018   es: 0018   ss: 0018
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel: Process alsactl (pid: 954, stackpage=cd753000)
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel: Stack: d7a8b600 d5589740 d7061800 d7061988 0286 
0003 d706194c d88584d5
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel:d68d0980 0286 d706195c cf1375c0 d706195c 
cf1375c0 d8859d4d d7061800
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel:d5589740  cf1375e0 d706195c d5589740 
d68d0980 c142e300 d3d00c40
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel: Call Trace:[] [] 
[fput+76/224] [filp_close+85/96] [sys_close+67/96]
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel:   [system_call+51/56]
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel:
Jun  1 14:43:41 P2 kernel: Code: 8b 01 85 45 fc 74 4c 31 c0 9c 5e fa c7 01 00 
00 00 00 83 79


Under testing, everything worked fine, but I don't know which package 
(kernel-source? alsa-source? alsa-base?) is causing these problems.

Another problem: it's very difficult to remove the alsa-packages using dpkg 
--purge.
The script /etc/init.d/alsa *always* gives a non-0 return value, so I have to 
`echo "exit 0" > /etc/init.d/alsa` before I'm able to remove the alsa 
packages.

Does anyone know how I can get alsa running under unstable?

Thanks in advance,
Stanley.
(PS: this is the first message I sent to a mailing-list ever, I hope nothing 
goes wrong)


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Re: Address book sharing

2003-06-01 Thread Pierre THIERRY
> Does anybody know whether it is possible to share the Mozilla address
> books of the Windows and of the Debian partition? And how?

I think by symlinking the files on the Debian partition to the Windows
one... The LDAP solution could enable sharing it with even distant
systems, but it a bit more complicated to implement.

Quickly,
le Moine Fou
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Re: DVD ripping in 100 words or less

2003-06-01 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
Hi,

Bill Moseley wrote:

> I used acidrip and was able to generate a avi image in about 15 or so
> minutes that plays just fine.  I used the default "copy" settings for
> codec and audio.

How big is this file?  I guess several Gigabytes for a movie.
 
> Oh, now dvd::rip just went on to "pass 2" with elapsed at 07:27:34, ETA 
> 1882:23:44.  I think 1,882 1/2 hours is too long to wait at 99% CPU 
> usage.

7 hours was usual on my 700 MHz Duron for each pass for an average
movie.  Transcoding movies takes some time.

BTW, you can have transcode run under a low nice value, this way you can
still use your system while it is transcoding the movie.  You just can't
reboot it.

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Re: Strange file in my /etc

2003-06-01 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 09:38:02 +0800, Jimmy Lu wrote:

> There is a binary file in my /etc directory.  The file name is "-src".  I am very 
> worried because I've
> never noticed this file before.  Can someone tell me what is this file for?  I am 
> using Woody 3.0r1,
> -r1rootroot24  Mar  24   12:09-src

Have you run any intrusion detection systems?  I forget their names now...

Would you please break your lines, BTW?


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Compiler choice for OSS (WAS: Re: Trouble with Mozilla Java plugin)

2003-06-01 Thread Roberto Sanchez
 --- Aryan Ameri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: 
> The compiler version is always important (due to the nature of C).
> For example Mozilla 1.4 can be compiled with gcc on windows, but no 
> plugin would then work with it, because all the plugins have been 
> compiled with the Microsoft compiler.

This is something I have always wondered about.  Why do OSS projects use gcc
for every platform except Windows?  I thought one of the great advantages of
gcc was that is was ported to pretty much every operating system.  Why not just
always use gcc?  Then there would be no need to maintain separate makefiles for
different compilers.

Just my $0.02

-Roberto


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Re: Trouble with Mozilla Java plugin

2003-06-01 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 12:39:41 +0300, Aryan Ameri wrote:

> On Sunday 01 June 2003 07:15, Roberto Sanchez wrote:
>>
>> That sure did the trick (I didn't realize the gcc version had an
>> impact). Thanks.
> 
> The compiler version is always important (due to the nature of C).

Any pointers to an explanation about why is that?


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Re: cdrom symlink won't stay linked to /dev/cdrom1

2003-06-01 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Sunday 01 June 2003 11:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > You're using devfs which means that the whole /dev structure is
> > > generated dynamically. You'll have to edit /etc/devfsc.conf (search for
> > > cdrom) to preserve the change.
> >
> > I think you just had a typo there; the real filename is
> > /etc/devfs/devfsd.conf

Yes, that's what I meant...

> No, I don't have that file, just a directory /etc/devfs/conf.d/ with a
> file named mga-vid-common inside. This is probably due to my
> (unsuccessful) attempt to install and use mga-vid. A little history:
>
> I used to have an AMD K6-III in an ASUS P5-A motherboard. Somehow,
> starting with the Debian kernel-package and customizing it (my strategy
> is to start with the Debian config file and cautiously turn off
> un-needed features, build and install with make-kpkg), I had gotten
> things into a state where devfs was installed but there were no config
> files in /etc, the only way it would boot was if I specified
> "devfs=nomount" as a kernel option. The devfs docs refered to some
> default conf files that would make things work, but I never found them.

You really should install the devfsd package. devfs uses a different strategy 
for naming harddisks, other drives and in general everthing.

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Re: boot-floppies package

2003-06-01 Thread Carel Fellinger
On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 06:06:08AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
...
> If you do have a running system, then simply have root visit grub's
> working directory and copy the two stage files over to an unmounted
> floppy:
> 
>  # dd if=stage1 of=/dev/fd0 bs=512 count=1
>  # dd if=stage2 of=/dev/fd0 bs=512 seek=1
> 
> Then mount the floppy and copy splash.xpm.gz to it, create a file
> named grub.conf and a symlink to it from menu.lst. And then set up the
> grub.conf file as per the manual.

I seriously doubt this is sane:)
According to the grub.info (node: Images):

 While Stage 2 cannot generally be embedded in a fixed area as the
 size is so large, Stage 1.5 can be installed into the area right
 after a MBR, or the boot loader area of a ReiserFS or a FFS.

In other words, putting stage2 directly after the bootrecord destroys
any filesytem on the disk, better use stage1.5 or do a true install on
the floppy as I posted recently or as described in the FAQ (node FAQ).

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Re: woody 2.4 kernel netinstall and NIC autodetect?

2003-06-01 Thread Geordie Birch
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 12:57:02PM +0200, Steinar Bang wrote:

> However, the e100 NIC wasn't detected either.  Was it supposed to have
> been?  Would it have, if the NIC had been connected?  (it wasn't)>

Check the comprehensive install manual at debian.org.  If it's not 
in there, it's not part of the debian install, unless you DIY (I do
some things myself on tty2 during debian installs, eg. use fdisk rather 
than cfdisk.)

> Since I had no documentation on this NIC, I was left with having to
> manually try all NIC drivers until one was successfully loaded.  And a
> RedHat enthusiast at work said: "doesn't debian autodetect hardware at
> install time?  RedHat does...".  Hmph...

No documentation?  Nothing printed on the chips on the card, or no 
access to google?

To find which driver I need I search google, using the letters and 
numbers printed on what appears to be the main chip of the NIC and the 
word linux as my search terms.  This often works (heh).

Geordie.


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Re: Strange file in my /etc

2003-06-01 Thread eamon-roque

Hi!

I would move it to '-src.old' or something else and see what happens.
'-src' is quite an strange name for a config file. : (

Are you noticing anything else on your system, a.e. strange network
activity, folders (w)out groups or owners, inexplicable SUID files et al.?! 

HTH

Eamon Roque.
- Originalnachricht -
Von: Jimmy Lu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Datum: Sonntag, 1. Juni  2003, 3:38
Betreff: Strange file in my /etc

> Hello all,
> 
> There is a binary file in my /etc directory.  The file name is "-
> src".  I am very worried because I've
> never noticed this file before.  Can someone tell me what is this 
> file for?  I am using Woody 3.0r1,
> kernel 2.4.18-586tsc. ls -l shows the following info. of this file.
>-r1rootroot24  Mar  24   12:09-src
> 
> Thanks,
> Jimmy


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mozilla fails to launch the program to view a file after download

2003-06-01 Thread Wim De Smet
Hi,

As all of the mozilla users here likely know, when you click a binary
link in mozilla it allows you to choose either to download this file and
save it, or to open it immediately (if it is in a known format). Lately
though, opening or viewing files doesn't seem to work. eg with video
files, mozilla asks me politely if I want to use gmplayer to open this
file, I answer yes, mozilla downloads it, and then nothing happens. (no
error messages whatsoever). Is there a log somewhere that mozilla keeps
of its actions or has anybody had the same problem?

tia,
Wim

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Re: Anti Open Source Psyops / "Mind Tweakers"? (they'll never believe we're really aliens dept)

2003-06-01 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 01:23:29AM -0700, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:
> Happy un-halloween.  The truth is out there -- apt-get into it, local
> shadow repositories potentially excepted.

You know, I was just saying on #debian-devel within the past couple of
days how I missed Karl Hegbloom's psychotically addled rants about
nothing in particular.

They *do* say, "be careful what you wish for".

"Who's 'they'?  Holy shit, is that Agent Smith outside?"

> There _are_ organized groups of individuals who are actively attempting
> to dismantle or disrupt LUG's, and to discourage Linux advocates.

Sure; these groups are usually termed the "membership".

> They may attempt to discourage LUG's from formally organizing like
> Debian has.

Yes, surely, laziness and ineptitude, to say nothing of the absense of a
need for any more organization than they already have, are surely
insufficiently explanatory of this phenomenon.  Assuming that what is
meant by "formally organizing like Debian has" is a particularly
specific concept, which it isn't.

> They might say that you have to be mind-crazy if you believe any of
> this message!

Yes, that's definitely an accusation I hear in everyday life.  I'm
"mind-crazy"!  Though I will plead guilty to being body-crazy for the
pleasantly-developed female form.  Mmm-h.

> They may claim that I am insane for sending it!  It will undoubtedly
> be flamed and "debunked" by "reputable linux advocates"!  Be wary of
> "wolves in sheeps clothing", misdirection, and "red herrings".

Of course they'll all say that!  IT JUST PROVES HOW DEEPLY THE
CONSPIRACY RUNS!  It's PERVASIVE.  Everyone is in a SECRET CONFEDERACY
AGAINST YOU!

> If you don't have anything productive to add, then don't say anything
> at all.

"Quiet!  Don't debunk my acid-tripping hallucinations or I'll have you
pinned as part of the SECRET CONFEDERACY!"

> They might try to make you quit using or supporting Free Software, OSS,
> and Debian GNU.

What's Debian GNU?

> They might use sneaky, subtle, and insinuating psyops

...as opposed to overt, blatant, and frank psy ops.

> tactics, mental / psychic / emotional harrassment.

Cool.  Psychic harassment.  Is that what I can sue Miss Cleo for?

> They might try to make you smoke,

God knows people have to be compelled to do this.

> drink (in the Red Hat district perhaps?

Red Hat district?  Is that what the call the part of town on the wrong
side of the magnetic tracks?

> Isn't that a smoking spy with a secret NDA?),

Augh!  It's AGENT SMITH AGAIN![1]

> use too much caffeine, not exercise.  

Of course the computer hacking lifestyle itself does absolutely nothing
to promote such vices.

> They might try to ruin your reputation in any way they can.

...and some people don't need any help, they just post to debian-devel
and debian-user.

> They might harrass you and try to prevent you from getting your work
> done.

You've had to work with Joseph Carter, too?

> They might cause you to waste your time with petty squabbling, a
> barrage of insults and put-downs, immature insecure one-upmanship head
> games, "you're such a loser" "do things my way" _badmouthing_,
> _bully-talk_, emotional tweaking, political manurviring,

Manurviring?  Is that the act of making people out of manure ("Manure",
"Vir")?  Do you make sculptures from your feces, too?  Are you one of
THOSE nutjobs?  How pedestrian.

> psycho-social posturing / posing and chest thumping.  Whether it "pays
> the bills" is a big issue with some of these annoying pocket slappers.

Yes, all this stuff is quite unique to LUGs and software companies.
Why, one never encounters it in any other social setting.

> They might look for any way to _try_ and stop you from working on or
> using OSS; to prove you are a danger to their way of life...

Eh?  They prove you are a danger to their way of life by stopping you?
Sounds like they would render you impotent by doing so.  ("HOLY SHIT!
HOW DID HE KNOW I WAS IMPOTENT?!  MY DETRACTORS ARE IN LEAGUE WITH MY
PHYSICIAN!  EVEN MY UROLOGIST IS PART OF THE CONSPIRACY!")

> "Just think how big of a threat to them we must be in their eyes, to
> inspire these jealous displays of rivalrous politicing!" -- Anon Muse

This person should remain anonymous if they cannot spell "politicking".
Isn't the "rivalrous" modifier a bit redundant, too?

> They may edit what you really say to make it seem as though you said the
> opposite,

Well, doesn't that presume that what one says is meaningful enough to be
invertible?

> and they might get away with it, if there is nobody to stop
> them or call them out on it.  Some will be ready with the snide
> put-downs and shut-ups,

Glad to be of service!

> and others with the bureaucratic pigeon-hole pocket slapping
> paper-mill coal-plant gas-$tation shuffle.

Damn, you've caught me out -- I *really do* slap my pigeon-hole pocket
before going to one of my three jobs at the paper mill, coal plant, and
gas station.

My clothes do tend to reek of decaying pigeons

Re: boot-floppies package

2003-06-01 Thread Haines Brown
Floris,

I have also found it advantageous to create a grub boot floppy. You
can then select among kernels or fiddle with the bootloader
configuration actually in the course of a boot.

If you do have a running system, then simply have root visit grub's
working directory and copy the two stage files over to an unmounted
floppy:

 # dd if=stage1 of=/dev/fd0 bs=512 count=1
 # dd if=stage2 of=/dev/fd0 bs=512 seek=1

Then mount the floppy and copy splash.xpm.gz to it, create a file
named grub.conf and a symlink to it from menu.lst. And then set up the
grub.conf file as per the manual.

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firewire card for sony dcr trv33

2003-06-01 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
I got a sony camcorder (trv33), and a firewire, but I am not sure about what
firewire card would work with debian( have a woody, kernel 2.4.18 running).
Another question: From what I have read, kino seems to be the application to
install, any other ideas?
Thanks to all.


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Re: Trouble with Mozilla Java plugin

2003-06-01 Thread Aryan Ameri
On Sunday 01 June 2003 07:15, Roberto Sanchez wrote:
>  --- Nathan Poznick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
> > That is almost undoubtedly due to that version of Java being
> > compiled with gcc 2.95, and mozilla being compiled with gcc 3.x. 
> > The dates on the files from that mirror are quite old... Try using:
>
> ftp://ftp.tux.org/pub/java/JDK-1.4.1/i386/01/j2re-1.4.1-01-linux-i586
>-gcc3.2.bin
>
> > That is a version compiled with gcc 3.2, and it works for me
> > (whereas the version from that apt archive doesn't).

>
> That sure did the trick (I didn't realize the gcc version had an
> impact). Thanks.
>

The compiler version is always important (due to the nature of C).
For example Mozilla 1.4 can be compiled with gcc on windows, but no 
plugin would then work with it, because all the plugins have been 
compiled with the Microsoft compiler.

Just my $0.02

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Re: Help with XMMS radio, specifically KPFB

2003-06-01 Thread paul
Dale Hair declaimed:
> On Fri, 2003-05-30 at 12:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Silly question 3 of 3: XMMS used to come up with KPFB in the playlist,
> > and it would work! Now after tweaking and geeking and getting XMMS to
> > actually play CD ROMs for the first time, I've lost the radion station.
> > I've tried searching for URLs on the web, but nothing I add to the
> > playlist works. XMMS documentation is fairly minimal in this area.
> > Anyone willing (perhaps off-list) to help me with this?
> 
> The mp3 stream is http://aud-one.kpfa.org:8080.
> If you need more help with this or other radio streams I'd be glad to
> help.  I listen to several different stations in mp3, wma, and ra.
> 
That did it, I was using some other bogus URLs that I'd Googled up.

Thanks!

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Re: cdrom symlink won't stay linked to /dev/cdrom1

2003-06-01 Thread paul
Vineet Kumar declaimed:
> * Nicos Gollan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030530 10:58]:
> > On Friday 30 May 2003 19:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > This is silly question 1 of 3. Every time I restart, the /dev/cdrom
> > > symlink "magically" gets remapped to /dev/cdrom0. Which is the wrong
> > > device, so I su and delete it and make a new symlink pointing to
> > > /dev/cdrom1, and then I reboot and it's pointing back to /dev/cdrom0...
> > 
> > You're using devfs which means that the whole /dev structure is generated 
> > dynamically. You'll have to edit /etc/devfsc.conf (search for cdrom) to 
> > preserve the change.
> 
> I think you just had a typo there; the real filename is
> /etc/devfs/devfsd.conf
> 

No, I don't have that file, just a directory /etc/devfs/conf.d/ with a
file named mga-vid-common inside. This is probably due to my
(unsuccessful) attempt to install and use mga-vid. A little history:

I used to have an AMD K6-III in an ASUS P5-A motherboard. Somehow,
starting with the Debian kernel-package and customizing it (my strategy
is to start with the Debian config file and cautiously turn off
un-needed features, build and install with make-kpkg), I had gotten
things into a state where devfs was installed but there were no config
files in /etc, the only way it would boot was if I specified
"devfs=nomount" as a kernel option. The devfs docs refered to some
default conf files that would make things work, but I never found them.

Then the system started spontaneously restarting (hunch=motherboard), so
I swapped out the motherboard and CPU, now using a Soyo SY-7VMA-B
motherboard with a Celeron 566, running the debian 2.4.20 kernel for
Celeron. One of these days I'll customize it, when I'm willing to hack
through all the booting issues and spend a day getting my sound, cdrw,
and dvd to work again.

I notice that /fs/ contains stuff for both 'devfs' and
'devpts', but the Documentation folder just has a devfs folder. devpts
is mounted to /dev/pts, don't know if this is the same or different than
devfs. Any spare cycles of explanation or pointer to further docs
welcome.

PM
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Re: Address book sharing

2003-06-01 Thread Thomas Elsen
Ron Johnson wrote:

On Sun, 2003-06-01 at 00:33, Piero wrote:
 

Does anybody know whether it is possible to share the Mozilla address 
books of the Windows and of the Debian partition? And how?
   

Put the file on a small, shared partition?  (Yes, it's a kludge.)

If you have another computer, you could set up OpenLDAP running
on it as your Address Book server...
 

Can Mozilla write to an OpenLDAP-server? Most people also like to add 
addresses to their address books.

Thomas Elsen

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problems with ifup/ifdown/interfaces.

2003-06-01 Thread Paul Matuszewski
I'm attempting to add additional ip's to my interfaces and am having
trouble..:

auto eth0
iface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.0.110
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 192.168.0.0
broadcast 192.168.0.255
gateway 192.168.0.1

# Second
auto eth0:26
iface eth0:26 inet static
address 192.168.0.26
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 192.168.0.0
broadcast 192.168.0.255

when I do..
formosus:/etc/network# ifup eth0:26
SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device
SIOCSIFNETMASK: No such device
SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device

that's what I get.

A I forgetting something?

Thanks


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X needed on printserver?

2003-06-01 Thread Russ Pitman
If a client workstation is passing X data to a printserver does the 
printserver machine need to have X installed? 

I find much documentation confuses me using the single word 'server' for 
both the machine and the software that may/should reside on a different 
machine which in turn may also be a server :-((

If that sounds confused,so am I.
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Re: Fonts with wine a real mess!

2003-06-01 Thread Roman Joost
On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 03:38:06PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I can start various application for M$ windows (among them Abiword for win32) but 
> the fonts are a real mess, absolutely unreadable, they look like symbols not 
> characters!
> 
> What shouild I do?
> 
Maybe rewrite the font settings in your local wine.conf. I noticed, that
the most wine builds use the font paths through X-Window. But i dont
know, which font wine is picking up...

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Re: ssh setup

2003-06-01 Thread Jon Haugsand
* Jeff Elkins
> Yep, X11Forwarding is set to yes in /etc/ssh_config for both the client and 
> the server. SSH seems to function normally in all other respects...

On the server side, it is the file /etc/ssh/sshd_config.

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weird TCP/IP interface problems

2003-06-01 Thread Paul Matuszewski
I have the built in Ethernet card on a thunder k7xpro card.. I used the
epro100 driver to get it working.. seems cool.. however..

I ahve the debian box going right now, through my win2k box.. whenever i
Initialize an ftp session with another host.. my windows machine goes BLUE
screen oh death.. and reboots.

has anyone heard of such a thing ever?  Is it something with the driver
manipulation.. or perhaps is the card sending shitty frames to my win box..
or is it just too fast, if you will, for the 3c905 that's in my win box?

-Paul

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-Original Message-
From: Colin Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 3:25 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: testing: dist-upgrade to perl-5.8 removes modules


On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 06:28:06PM -0700, Randall Hansen wrote:
> I'm running testing, and a week or two ago apt [dist-upgrade] wanted
> to install a new Perl (5.8) to replace my current 5.6.1.  I've no
> special preference for 5.6x, but apt also wants to remove several Perl
> modules on which I depend.
>
> To wit: Digest::MD5 appears to be replaced with libmd5-perl;
> Test::Harness now appears to be included in perl-modules.  Others,
> though, I haven't been able to verify or find:  Time::HiRes, Storable,
> GD.

Digest::MD5, Time::HiRes, and Storable have been sucked into the perl
package, so it's OK to let the packaging system remove those. GD is in
any of libgd-gd1-perl, libgd-gd1-noxpm-perl, libgd-gd2-perl, or
libgd-gd2-noxpm-perl; libgd-gd2-perl is probably the sensible choice if
you're not sure.

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Re: testing: dist-upgrade to perl-5.8 removes modules

2003-06-01 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 06:28:06PM -0700, Randall Hansen wrote:
> I'm running testing, and a week or two ago apt [dist-upgrade] wanted
> to install a new Perl (5.8) to replace my current 5.6.1.  I've no
> special preference for 5.6x, but apt also wants to remove several Perl
> modules on which I depend.
> 
> To wit: Digest::MD5 appears to be replaced with libmd5-perl;
> Test::Harness now appears to be included in perl-modules.  Others,
> though, I haven't been able to verify or find:  Time::HiRes, Storable,
> GD.

Digest::MD5, Time::HiRes, and Storable have been sucked into the perl
package, so it's OK to let the packaging system remove those. GD is in
any of libgd-gd1-perl, libgd-gd1-noxpm-perl, libgd-gd2-perl, or
libgd-gd2-noxpm-perl; libgd-gd2-perl is probably the sensible choice if
you're not sure.

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[OT] prune cups job log

2003-06-01 Thread Alex Polite
The log of our CUPS server is so full that loading the "completed
jobs" in the CUPS www interface takes quite some time. I've been
trying to find out how  to prune the log of old jobs with no success.

Ideas?

alex

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Gnome 2.2 panel config

2003-06-01 Thread Neilen
Hi.

I recently upgraded to sid, and of course, got gnome 2.2.  Looks quite
nice, but I can't get the panel to do quite what I want.

In Gnome 1.4 I had a really broad, auto-hide panel on the top-right hand
side of my screen, which had the desktop switcher and a tasklist.  I
liked to have it really wide, so that I could see the full name of the
app running.

In Gnome 2.2, it is almost right.  Top-right, auto-hide, desktop-swither
and tasklist.  But I can't get it to be arbitrarily wide (X-large is
just not wide enough), and I can't seem to get it to be always on-top
either.  I.o.w., I have to hover over the panel, then click to raise.

Any ideas how I can fix this?

I'm running the sawfish window manager.

Thanks
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Re: nvidia video cards

2003-06-01 Thread Dan Hunt
> Go to the NVIDIA web site and download their drivers, or get the packages
> nvidia-kernel-src and nvidia-glx-src from Debian.
> 
> Follow the instructions.
> 
I went "apt-get install nvidia-kernel-src" and 
   "apt-get install nvidia-glx-src"
and I found the instructions a bit confusing,
/usr/doc/nvidia-kernel-src/README.Debian

cd linux ( or your kernel source directory )
 
 O.K. I have a stock kernel installed 
 2.4.18-bf2.4 and I installed the kernel-headers package, but 
 I think I needed to get something else instead.

Anyone offer a tip?



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Re: InCD Like software

2003-06-01 Thread David Purton
On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 10:01:14AM +0530, SRIKANTH NS wrote:
> Hi Listers,
> 
> Is there an InCD like program for Linux in which we can copy files to
> CDRW disks like a large floppy ?
> 
> Google brought up packet-cd.sourceforge.net in which a patch is given
> to 2.4.10test kernel. One is asked to recompile kernel . I do not know
> that deep to include such support in kernel and recompile it .
> 
> Another went to the linux UDF page on sourceforge which says it is the
> patches plus udftools. There is udf-0.9.7.tar.gz which is said to
> contain all these.
> 
> I would like to know is there any simple CLI tools like cdrecord or
> GUI tools like koncd for this packetwriting like InCD for windows?
> 

not that I know of - but I applied that packet writer patch to my
2.4.20 kernel and instlled the udf stuff and it all seems to work
fine. It's not that hard if you follow the docs on the pages you
mentioned above.

Once the appropriate kernel things are done I just put a line like
this in /etc/fstab

/dev/pktcdvd0   /cdwriter udf  rw,user,noauto,unhide


I also added an init.d script to bring the packet writing stuff up and
down on boot and shutdown:


<-- begin script -->

#! /bin/sh
# /etc/init.d/pktsetup
#

case "$1" in
  start)
echo "Setting up packet device associations"
modprobe -a pktcdvd
pktsetup /dev/pktcdvd0 /dev/cdrom
;;
  stop)
echo "Tearing down packet device associations"
#   attempt to umount device if mounted
#   this is going to go wrong if it's in use...
MOUNTTEST=`df | grep /dev/pktcdvd0 | wc -l`
if [ $MOUNTTEST -eq 1 ]; then umount /dev/pktcdvd0; fi
pktsetup -d /dev/pktcdvd0 /dev/cdrom
modprobe -r pktcdvd
;;
  restart|reload|force-reload)
/etc/init.d/pktsetup stop
/etc/init.d/pktsetup start
;;
  *)
echo "Usage: /etc/init.d/pktsetup {start|stop|restart|reload}"
exit 1
;;
esac

exit 0


<-- end script -->

Now I can just mount/unmount a formatted udf cd as a normal writeable
filesystem. InCD happily works with the disc aswell. The only gotcha
is that it still seems not 100% reliable - I usually check files copied
using md5sum or something because sometimes things get corrupted.


cheers

dc

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Re: Remote KDE desktop over SSH?

2003-06-01 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, May 28, 2003 at 07:08:47PM -0700, Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> For months now, while I'm at work, I've been running a couple programs
> in SSH, displaying on my computer at work.  Now I'm curious if I can
> do something similar to get a KDM login on my home box.
> 
> Using knoppix at work, sid at home.

Likely.  But I'd ask why.

First:  X is a network-transparent system, meaning you can run an
application, or your entire session, over the net.  

That said, there are some good reasons for keeping at least bits of your
X session local.  In particular, the window manager.  Mostly for
performance reasons.

Even over a high speed network, you're going to have both latency and
bandwidth effects.  And even if your _net_ latency is low, and bandwidth
is high, periodic network "burps", etc., can gum up the works.

My recommendation:  run a locally managed X session.  Run the remote
apps you must run via an ssh tunnel, launching them from a remote shell
with an appropriate DISPLAY value.

If you *must* run a remotely managed session, look into ssh compression
and lbxproxy (the low-bandwidth X proxy).  They'll help somewhat.

And note that there are environments which translate better to remote X
than others.  Particularly twm, fvwm, blackbox, fluxbox, and xfce.  My
own preference, WindowMaker, generates a heck of a lot of network
traffic (mostly dock apps).  It's a pig over DSL, and, well, when I
tried it over a 56K dialup, it workedafter about 15 minutes
startup

I'd strongly discourage use of GNOME or KDE over a remote connection.
VNC will do you better here.

Peace.

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RE: AIC7xxx drivers Thunder K7x Pro

2003-06-01 Thread Paul Matuszewski
Turns out.. that my network drivers aren't supported through 30r1 'cause of
.18.. so I'm going to install to IDE.. using my realtek NIC.. grasp all the
drivers.. get my scsi working... and try to make my own install disk.. any
hints on where to find info on making my own kernel to load MY scsi drivers
on the fly... so I can boot directly to my scsi.. and also have a rescue
disk.. if needed?

-Paul

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-Original Message-
From: Paul Matuszewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 1:11 AM
To: Greg Madden; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: AIC7xxx drivers Thunder K7x Pro


NO go on the compact install

-Paul

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-Original Message-
From: Greg Madden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 4:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: AIC7xxx drivers Thunder K7x Pro


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On Saturday 31 May 2003 04:39 am, Pigeon wrote:
> On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 04:18:01AM -0400, Paul Matuszewski wrote:
> > Hi all, newbie here.
> >
> > I've installed plenty of non-scsi systems.. but one of the first
> > systems that i am isntalling is not working 'out of the box' per say.
> >
> > It is a thunder k7x pro w/ the adaptec aic-7902W scsi chip onboard
> >
> > I'm trying to get it to work.. but am having a miserable time.
> >
> > Are there drivers available?  and if so.. how do I go about adding them
> > while i'm doing a fresh installation (no other hd's avail except what's
> > on the scsi.)
>
> At the install CD's boot: prompt enter "compact" to boot/install with
> the so-called "compact" kernel which includes aic7xxx support.

Let us know if this works. I have read another reference to this topic (suse
list) that uses a aic79xx module,(same mb) which isn't available in Woody
kernel sources.
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Re: Anti Open Source Psyops / "Mind Tweakers"? (they'll never believewe're really aliens dept)

2003-06-01 Thread Adam Heath
On 31 May 2003, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:

> [snip]

HAHAHAHAHAHA.

I needed that.  Thanks for the laugh.  Made my day.


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Re: tuxracer: extension "GLX" missing (was: nvidia video cards)

2003-06-01 Thread Kevin McKinley
On Sat, 31 May 2003 21:23:19 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) wrote:

>From the utah-glx FAQ:

"GLX is basically the glue that ties OpenGL and X together. Most of the code
in Utah-GLX is actually dealing with graphics chipset specific drivers code.
Most of the OpenGL support is provided by Mesa (which has
hardware-acceleration hooks that we update)."

"The GLX protocol is a way to send 3D graphics commands over an X
client-server connection. It was created by Silicon Graphics and recently
released as open source. In order to distinguish this package from SGI's GLX
module we opted to refer to this project as Utah GLX."

I believe you're confusing GLX and framebuffer.

Tuxracer requires GLX, which is provided for GeForce? by NVIDIA.

Framebuffer is a completely different animal, though since X is hardly my
strong suite I won't say any more (except to note that I use the proprietary
NVIDIA drivers for X and VESA framebuffer for the console, so I know they
don't conflict).

Kevin


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DVD ripping in 100 words or less

2003-06-01 Thread Bill Moseley
Got a flakey DVD so I figured a good time to try this stuff out.

I'm looking for a short overview of dvd ripping and what (or more why) 
codecs to select.

I've got all the tools and libraries installed and I'm trying out two 
front-ends: dvd::rip, and acidrip.

I used acidrip and was able to generate a avi image in about 15 or so
minutes that plays just fine.  I used the default "copy" settings for
codec and audio.

Then I tried out dvd::rip, which seems much more feature rich and 
followed the instructions at:

   http://bunkus.org/dvdripping4linux/en/single/index.html

Section 3 (pulling the vob files) went very fast, but section 4
"transcode" has been running at 99% CPU for about 7 hours now.  I
selected xvid for the video codec and mp3 for the audio.  I did select
the "dilyuvmmx" deinterlace filter, but no for deinterlace mode.

Can someone explain the huge difference in time?  And also what codes to 
select and when I might pick each?  Using acidrip was fast, but I don't 
have any chapter data stored, so it's not easy to skip around during 
playback.  I guess I'm looking for a very general overview to help limit 
my choices.

Oh, now dvd::rip just went on to "pass 2" with elapsed at 07:27:34, ETA 
1882:23:44.  I think 1,882 1/2 hours is too long to wait at 99% CPU 
usage.

BTW for "clip & zoom" I selected just a little for the 1st clipping, and 
zero zoom and zero 2nd clipping.

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Re: Anti Open Source Psyops / "Mind Tweakers"? (they'll never believe we're really aliens dept)

2003-06-01 Thread Jesse Meyer
On Sat, 31 May 2003, William Lee Irwin III wrote:
> On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 01:23:29AM -0700, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:
> > [snip paranoid ravings]
> Holy s**t you really are nuts.

If this is serious, I second your opinion.

Unfortunately, being totally, completely, and absolutely unhinged must
be one of the worse types of mental illness:  You have spent hours
watching them, writing down all your evidence and conjunctures in spiral
notebooks, tried to warn others, and when you finally take extreme
measures to inform everyone of the squirrel invasion plans, they lock
you up.

Poor guy.

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RE: AIC7xxx drivers Thunder K7x Pro

2003-06-01 Thread Paul Matuszewski
NO go on the compact install

-Paul

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-Original Message-
From: Greg Madden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 4:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: AIC7xxx drivers Thunder K7x Pro


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On Saturday 31 May 2003 04:39 am, Pigeon wrote:
> On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 04:18:01AM -0400, Paul Matuszewski wrote:
> > Hi all, newbie here.
> >
> > I've installed plenty of non-scsi systems.. but one of the first
> > systems that i am isntalling is not working 'out of the box' per say.
> >
> > It is a thunder k7x pro w/ the adaptec aic-7902W scsi chip onboard
> >
> > I'm trying to get it to work.. but am having a miserable time.
> >
> > Are there drivers available?  and if so.. how do I go about adding them
> > while i'm doing a fresh installation (no other hd's avail except what's
> > on the scsi.)
>
> At the install CD's boot: prompt enter "compact" to boot/install with
> the so-called "compact" kernel which includes aic7xxx support.

Let us know if this works. I have read another reference to this topic (suse
list) that uses a aic79xx module,(same mb) which isn't available in Woody
kernel sources.
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InCD Like software

2003-06-01 Thread SRIKANTH NS
Hi Listers,

Is there an InCD like program for Linux in which we can copy files to
CDRW disks like a large floppy ?

Google brought up packet-cd.sourceforge.net in which a patch is given
to 2.4.10test kernel. One is asked to recompile kernel . I do not know
that deep to include such support in kernel and recompile it .

Another went to the linux UDF page on sourceforge which says it is the
patches plus udftools. There is udf-0.9.7.tar.gz which is said to
contain all these.

I would like to know is there any simple CLI tools like cdrecord or
GUI tools like koncd for this packetwriting like InCD for windows?

Pl help.

N S Srikanth


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Re: Trouble with Mozilla Java plugin

2003-06-01 Thread Roberto Sanchez
 --- Nathan Poznick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:  
> That is almost undoubtedly due to that version of Java being compiled
> with gcc 2.95, and mozilla being compiled with gcc 3.x.  The dates on
> the files from that mirror are quite old... Try using:
>
ftp://ftp.tux.org/pub/java/JDK-1.4.1/i386/01/j2re-1.4.1-01-linux-i586-gcc3.2.bin
> That is a version compiled with gcc 3.2, and it works for me (whereas
> the version from that apt archive doesn't).
> 
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> 

That sure did the trick (I didn't realize the gcc version had an impact). 
Thanks.

-Roberto

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Re: Balky Netgear FA311 ethernet card

2003-06-01 Thread Brian P. Flaherty
Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have a very small home network consisting of two computers connected
> by ethernet via a hub.  One computer is currently Windows only, and
> the other is a Debian/Windows dual boot.  The dual boot machine is an
> elderly Pentium Pro system with the Netgear FA311 card.  This goes on
> a PCI bus.  I regularly use the network with Windows on both sides, so
> I know that the hardware is functional.  The Debian system is woody
> with the 2.4.18-bf2.4 kernel.

Hello,

I am currently running a 2.2 kernel with the same card.  It is my
second card, and I have this in my /etc/network/interfaces file:

# The second network card
# (network, broadcast and gateway are optional)
# automatically added when upgrading
auto eth1
 iface eth1 inet static
pre-up modprobe natsemi
address 192.168.110.125
netmask 255.255.255.0

When I do lsmod, I see pci-scan is used by natsemi, so I think
the above modprobe loads both modules.  

Looking at the natsemi.c source, there is a debug variable that you
can set when the module is loaded.  It says that 1 is normal messages
and 7 is verbose.  If it still isn't working, perhaps doing that can
help you figure out what is going wrong?

I hope this helps.

Brian



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Re: nvidia video cards

2003-06-01 Thread Kevin McKinley
On Sat, 31 May 2003 18:41:45 -0300
james leclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Setting up woody on my main box. Using geforce4 mx pci video card. After 
> installing x and running starx, I get error messages stating "no screens 
> found". When installing x, I had chose the nv server. Was this correct?
> Had good experiences on my test comp with Debian and would really love to
> get it up on my main box. Anyone have any suggestions?

Go to the NVIDIA web site and download their drivers, or get the packages
nvidia-kernel-src and nvidia-glx-src from Debian.

Follow the instructions.

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tuxracer: extension "GLX" missing (was: nvidia video cards)

2003-06-01 Thread Bob Proulx
[Drifting from original topic and on to tuxracer problems...]

Ron Johnson wrote:
> Bob Proulx wrote:
> > The framebuffer is needed for some programs, notably tuxracer, which
> > use it and you won't be able to run those programs without it.  Darn!
> 
> Are you sure?  I'm running XFree 4.2.1 with the binary driver
> and tuxracer runs great in non-FB mode.

Hmm...  Well, if it works for you in non-framebuffer mode then I guess
I can't be sure!  :-)  Perhaps it was something else for me then but I
had thought that was it.  Thanks for the correction.

I just tried to reproduce my previous problem and at this time I see
this error which looks like a completely different problem at this
time.

Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
*** tuxracer error: Couldn't initialize video: Couldn't find matching GLX visual 
(Success)

I have this in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.

Load"glx" # OpenGL X protocol interface

My xfree logfile shows:

(II) LoadModule: "glx"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so
dlopen: libGLcore.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
(EE) Failed to load /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so
(II) UnloadModule: "glx"
(EE) Failed to load module "glx" (loader failed, 136243544)

Hmm...  I could not deduce a package that contained that file, other
than the proprietary 'nvidia-glx'.  (Wondering if there is a diversion
conflict with the nvidia driver.  But I can't see any.)

Any ideas for me?

Thanks
Bob


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Re: Balky Netgear FA311 ethernet card

2003-06-01 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2003-05-31 at 21:31, Rick wrote:
> I have a very small home network consisting of two computers connected 
> by ethernet via a hub.  One computer is currently Windows only, and the 
> other is a Debian/Windows dual boot.  The dual boot machine is an 
> elderly Pentium Pro system with the Netgear FA311 card.  This goes on a 
> PCI bus.  I regularly use the network with Windows on both sides, so I 
> know that the hardware is functional.  The Debian system is woody with 
> the 2.4.18-bf2.4 kernel.
[snip]
> During the Debian boot, the light turns off by the time the boot 
> sequence is doing some timeouts on my SCSI interface.  There is no 
> mention of the card during this early part of the boot sequence, but it 
> does come up in the kernel messages (with no obvious problems) when the 
> natsemi ethernet driver runs as a module.  The scyld site mentions 
> loading a pci-scan module before the natsemi module.  I am not sure what 
> the pci-scan module does (it is not in the debian woody distribution, 
> although natsemi is), but I have tried it and it does not cause the 
> ethernet hub light for the ethernet card to turn on. 

Have you grepped dmesg for eth0 or "[Nn]atsemi"?  What about
/var/log/*log?  (Maybe that's what you mean by "does come up in 
the kernel messages", but the specifics would be useful.)

And what's the output of lspci and "modprobe -v natsemi"?

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Balky Netgear FA311 ethernet card

2003-06-01 Thread Rick
I have a very small home network consisting of two computers connected 
by ethernet via a hub.  One computer is currently Windows only, and the 
other is a Debian/Windows dual boot.  The dual boot machine is an 
elderly Pentium Pro system with the Netgear FA311 card.  This goes on a 
PCI bus.  I regularly use the network with Windows on both sides, so I 
know that the hardware is functional.  The Debian system is woody with 
the 2.4.18-bf2.4 kernel.

I am a Linux ethernet newbie, so bear with me.  I have spent a good 
chunk of the last week trying to get this network up in Linux, including 
reading the ethernet and networking how-tos, as well as "Running Linux" 
and a book called the "Suse Linux Network" (which is still somewhat 
relevant to Debian).  Although the driver (natsemi from scyld.com) seems 
to find the card, I have come to suspect that the card is deactivated 
somehow in the early boot process and remains deactivated.

To explain further, my hub has an indicator light for each input.  As 
soon as my dual boot machine gets power, the indicator light on the hub 
comes on.  For a windows boot, the light stays on.  For a Debian boot, 
the light comes on when the machine powers up, but then turns off early 
in the kernel boot sequence.  No matter what I do with the software, the 
light never comes back on, and this is consistent with the card showing 
that it has not transmitted or received any packets.

During the Debian boot, the light turns off by the time the boot 
sequence is doing some timeouts on my SCSI interface.  There is no 
mention of the card during this early part of the boot sequence, but it 
does come up in the kernel messages (with no obvious problems) when the 
natsemi ethernet driver runs as a module.  The scyld site mentions 
loading a pci-scan module before the natsemi module.  I am not sure what 
the pci-scan module does (it is not in the debian woody distribution, 
although natsemi is), but I have tried it and it does not cause the 
ethernet hub light for the ethernet card to turn on. 

I theorize that the kernel is probing the PCI bus and doing something to 
the card right at the start of the boot.  I can provide much more detail 
on what I have done if it would help.  Are there any kernel 
configuration settings that could be causing this problem (and how do I 
check them?).  Would greatly appreciate any assistance.

Rick

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Re: Trouble with Mozilla Java plugin

2003-06-01 Thread Richard Heycock
What exactly is the problem? Which version of java are you using? which
Debian release are you running and which version of mozilla are you
using?

The following worked for me:

* untar the sdk (the jre should work also). With Sun sdk1.4.1 it "just
  works". With 1.3 (I think) it may or may not work depending on the
  version of libc or the compiler (can't remember which) but the 
  blackdown jre works.

* sym-link $jre_path/plugin/i386/ns610/libjavaplugin_oji.so to 
  /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins. Do not copy libjavaplugin_oji.so to the 
  mozilla plugin directory or it will not work. 

Not that I don't use debs for any java stuff.

rgh

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> Hi all,
> 
> I can't seem to get Mozilla (unstable) to recognize the Java plugin.  I
> and installed by had the J2RE, first from Sun then from Blackdown.  When
> neither of this worked, I added a Blackdown mirror to my sources.list.
> 
> deb ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/devel/lang/java/blackdown.org/debian
> unstable main non-free
> 
> Still, nothing.  All of my other plugins work OK, but not Java.
> 
> I search the list archives and read the thread about a similar problem from 6
> weeks ago, but it was not helpful.  It seems that this problem has been around
> for a bit.  Has there been any resolution?
> 
> -Roberto Sanchez
> 
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Re: Trouble with Mozilla Java plugin

2003-06-01 Thread Nathan Poznick
Thus spake Roberto Sanchez:
> Hi all,
> 
> I can't seem to get Mozilla (unstable) to recognize the Java plugin.  I
> and installed by had the J2RE, first from Sun then from Blackdown.  When
> neither of this worked, I added a Blackdown mirror to my sources.list.
> 
> deb ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/devel/lang/java/blackdown.org/debian
> unstable main non-free
> 
> Still, nothing.  All of my other plugins work OK, but not Java.
> 
> I search the list archives and read the thread about a similar problem from 6
> weeks ago, but it was not helpful.  It seems that this problem has been around
> for a bit.  Has there been any resolution?

That is almost undoubtedly due to that version of Java being compiled
with gcc 2.95, and mozilla being compiled with gcc 3.x.  The dates on
the files from that mirror are quite old... Try using:
ftp://ftp.tux.org/pub/java/JDK-1.4.1/i386/01/j2re-1.4.1-01-linux-i586-gcc3.2.bin
That is a version compiled with gcc 3.2, and it works for me (whereas
the version from that apt archive doesn't).


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Re: nvidia video cards

2003-06-01 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2003-05-31 at 19:34, Bob Proulx wrote:
> james leclair wrote:
[snip]
> The "nv" driver does not support framebuffer.  But if you were like me
> that option pulled you in.  Find this in your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
> file and comment it out.
> 
>   Option  "UseFBDev"  "true"
> 
> The framebuffer is needed for some programs, notably tuxracer, which
> use it and you won't be able to run those programs without it.  Darn!
> But at least you will have X running.

Are you sure?  I'm running XFree 4.2.1 with the binary driver
and tuxracer runs great in non-FB mode.

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Re: Address book sharing

2003-06-01 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sun, 2003-06-01 at 00:33, Piero wrote:
> Does anybody know whether it is possible to share the Mozilla address 
> books of the Windows and of the Debian partition? And how?

Put the file on a small, shared partition?  (Yes, it's a kludge.)

If you have another computer, you could set up OpenLDAP running
on it as your Address Book server...

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Strange file in my /etc

2003-06-01 Thread Jimmy Lu




Hello all,
 
There is a binary file in my /etc directory.  
The file name is "-src".  I am very worried because I've
never noticed this file before.  Can someone 
tell me what is this file for?  I am using Woody 3.0r1,
kernel 2.4.18-586tsc. ls -l shows the following 
info. of this file.
    -r    
1    root    
root    24  Mar  24   
12:09    -src
 
Thanks,
Jimmy


Re: ssh setup

2003-06-01 Thread Jeff Elkins
On Saturday 31 May 2003 8:16 pm, Colin Watson wrote:
>
> I'd be inclined to use -vvv.
>
> > Is root enabled to open a remote X session?
>
> That's irrelevant to ssh X forwarding.
>
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Here's -vvv:

(I've tried both with my user account and root - identical output)

Maybe I've been staring at it too long, but I just don't see anything obvious.

Jeff



OpenSSH_3.6.1p2 Debian 1:3.6.1p2-2, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090702f
debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
debug1: Rhosts Authentication disabled, originating port will not be trusted.
debug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0
debug1: Connecting to music.elkins [192.168.0.30] port 22.
debug1: Connection established.
debug1: identity file /root/.ssh/identity type -1
debug1: identity file /root/.ssh/id_rsa type -1
debug3: Not a RSA1 key file /root/.ssh/id_dsa.
debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type '-BEGIN'
debug3: key_read: missing keytype
debug3: key_read: missing whitespace
debug3: key_read: missing whitespace
debug3: key_read: missing whitespace
debug3: key_read: missing whitespace
debug3: key_read: missing whitespace
debug3: key_read: missing whitespace
debug3: key_read: missing whitespace
debug3: key_read: missing whitespace
debug3: key_read: missing whitespace
debug3: key_read: missing whitespace
debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type '-END'
debug3: key_read: missing keytype
debug1: identity file /root/.ssh/id_dsa type 2
debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_3.4p1 
Debian 1:3.4p1-1
debug1: match: OpenSSH_3.4p1 Debian 1:3.4p1-1 pat OpenSSH*
debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0
debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.6.1p2 Debian 1:3.6.1p2-2
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 
diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha1,diffie-hellman-group1-sha1
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 
aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 
aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 
hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,[EMAIL PROTECTED],hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 
hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,[EMAIL PROTECTED],hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,zlib
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,zlib
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit:
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit:
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: first_kex_follows 0
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: reserved 0
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 
diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha1,diffie-hellman-group1-sha1
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 
aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 
aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 
hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,[EMAIL PROTECTED],hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 
hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,[EMAIL PROTECTED],hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,zlib
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,zlib
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit:
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit:
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: first_kex_follows 0
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: reserved 0
debug2: mac_init: found hmac-md5
debug1: kex: server->client aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none
debug2: mac_init: found hmac-md5
debug1: kex: client->server aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST sent
debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP
debug2: dh_gen_key: priv key bits set: 114/256
debug2: bits set: 1627/3191
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent
debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY
debug3: check_host_in_hostfile: filename /root/.ssh/known_hosts
debug3: check_host_in_hostfile: match line 10
debug3: check_host_in_hostfile: filename /root/.ssh/known_hosts
debug3: check_host_in_hostfile: match line 9
debug1: Host 'music.elkins' is known and matches the RSA host key.
debug1: Found key in /root/.ssh/known_hosts:10
debug2: bits set: 1627/3191
debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct
debug2: kex_derive_keys
debug2: set_newkeys: mode 1
debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent
debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS
debug2: set_newkeys: mode 0
debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received
debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent
debug2: service_accept: ssh-userauth
debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received
debug1: Authentications that can continue: 
publickey,password,keyboard-interactive
debug3: start over, passed a different list 
publickey,password,keyboard-interactive
debug3: preferred publickey,keyboard-interactive,password
debug3: authmethod_lookup publickey
debug3: remaining preferred: keyboard-interactive,password
debug3: authmethod_is_enabled publickey
debug1: Next authentication method: publickey
debug2: userauth_pubkey_agent: no

Re: DVDs reproduction a little "slow"

2003-06-01 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2003-05-31 at 14:20, Florentin Ionescu wrote:
> Try to compile mplayer, cvs version and read DOCS/cd-dvd.html to improve
> performance - mplayer has support for debian package - http://www.mplayerhq.hu.

Add this to sources.list:
  deb http://marillat.free.fr/ unstable main

It has pre-compiled, optimized binaries.

> On Sat, 31 May 2003, Sara wrote :
> 
> » Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 17:32:54 +0200
> » From: Sara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> » To: debuser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> » Subject: DVDs reproduction a little "slow"
> » Resent-Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 11:10:14 -0500 (CDT)
> » Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> »
> » Hi again!
> »
> » I wondered if anyone knew anything I could do to improve the reproduction of
> » DVDs. Trying different players (Ogle, Xine, Vlc), and running them even as
> » root, I always have the same problem: the images "freeze" a little. I can
> » watch the DVD, but it's a little annoying.
> »
> » I have plenty of memory and a fast processor, so I don't think that's the
> » problem :). Anyway, I've noticed that the process associated to the DVD
> » player  does use a low porcentage of the total system  memory. I've tried to
> » run the players as root and happens the same.
> »
> » Any ideas? :)
> »
> » Regards,
> »
> » Sara
> »
> »
> »
> 
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Re: AIC7xxx drivers Thunder K7x Pro

2003-06-01 Thread Pigeon
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 04:05:41PM -0400, Paul Matuszewski wrote:
> On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 08:40AM, Pigeon wrote: 
> > On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 04:18:01AM -0400, Paul Matuszewski wrote:
> > > Hi all, newbie here.
> > >
> > > I've installed plenty of non-scsi systems.. but one of the first systems
> > > that i am isntalling is not working 'out of the box' per say.
> > >
> > > It is a thunder k7x pro w/ the adaptec aic-7902W scsi chip onboard
> > >
> > > I'm trying to get it to work.. but am having a miserable time.
> > >
> > > Are there drivers available?  and if so.. how do I go about adding them
> > > while i'm doing a fresh installation (no other hd's avail except what's on
> > > the scsi.)
> > 
> > At the install CD's boot: prompt enter "compact" to boot/install with
> > the so-called "compact" kernel which includes aic7xxx support.
> 
> I tried that.. no dice..
> 
> I ahve a aic79xx.o module that i'd like to use.. but I tried loading it
> through a shell.. and got unresolved symbol errors.. trying to figure out
> what it includes and how to get it loaded

Ack, sorry, answered a bit too quickly. I seem to have told quite a
few people recently-ish "use compact to get your SCSI working", and I
didn't check whether your chip was mentioned in the kernel docs before
replying.

As it turns out, it isn't listed or even mentioned anywhere in the
2.4.20 kernel source.

It seems your aic79xx.o module must have come from kernel 2.4.21. You
*might* be able to insert it by hand into the bf24 kernel - it's worth
a shot - but I wouldn't bet on it. I think you've got to obtain
somehow a 2.4.21 kernel image with aic79xx support enabled and use
that for the installation.

Quite how one goes about doing a Debian installation booting a
non-Debian kernel I'm not sure, but I'd try editing the boot floppy
image to include the 2.4.21 kernel, and doing the install-the-kernel
step of the installation by hand.

If you don't have another Linux box available to help you do this, you
could temporarily install some old half-gig IDE HD, do a bare-bones
minimum installation to that, then build a 2.4.21 kernel with aic79xx
support, transfer your minimal installation with new kernel to the
SCSI HD, reboot and use your favourite package management tool to
finish the job. Or you could temporarily install some old SCSI card
which is supported by the standard kernels until you can build a
2.4.21. If you have such a card around, this would probably be easier.

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testing: dist-upgrade to perl-5.8 removes modules

2003-06-01 Thread Randall Hansen
Folks ~

I'm running testing, and a week or two ago apt [dist-upgrade] wanted
to install a new Perl (5.8) to replace my current 5.6.1.  I've no
special preference for 5.6x, but apt also wants to remove several Perl
modules on which I depend.

To wit: Digest::MD5 appears to be replaced with libmd5-perl;
Test::Harness now appears to be included in perl-modules.  Others,
though, I haven't been able to verify or find:  Time::HiRes, Storable,
GD.

I've been experimenting (without success) with pinning Perl at 5.6.1. 
I understand from reading the archives that this is not the best use
of pinning, and should be avoided if there's a better way.

I know I could proceed with the dist-upgrade and then use CPAN to
reinstall the removed modules, but if I understand apt correctly this
is a short-term expedience guaranteed to fail long-term.

The only other thing I can think of is packaging those modules for
perl-5.8 myself, but I've never done that and can't evaluate whether
or not it's a good solution.

Can some one with more experience point me in the right direction? 
I'm version-agnostic for Perl, as long as I (a) keep my modules, and
(b) don't do anything that would set a booby-trap for apt in the
future.

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Re: apt-get Newbie

2003-06-01 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 00:22:38 +, Alan C wrote:

> I'm a Debian newbie.

Welcome, you sure sound like one!


> I would now like to follow just the 'stable' updates and 
> let my non-stable stuff stay as it is until it enters the 
> stable 'stream'.

Well then, you can just take them out of sources.list and let 
them lie until they get into stable.

Or you can substitute them by testing packages in a mixed 
distributions configuration, and also wait -- in this case you get
more packages changed from stable, but a smoother transition of these
packages into stable.  You would need to read the pertinent section of the
apt HOWTO.


> I would like to get all stable, US and non-US, main and 
> contrib.

Go ahead!


> Is it just a case of doing a regular:
>   apt-get update
>   apt-get upgrade
> 
> with all 'stable' lines in sources.list, 
> or will the 'backports' be damaged (or never upgraded)?

Not damaged, but never upgraded until there are newer packages in
stable.  Isn't this what you want?


> What should I put in sources.list ?

Take some samples and go from there... or just use something
like apt-spy.


> I've tried putting every possible option in to 
> sources.list according to the DEB URI DISTRIBUTION 
> [COMPONENT1] [COMPONENENT2] [...] rule, but I get lots of 
> file-not-found errors.

If you want specific advise, please publish *your* file *and*
the error messages you get.  You must understand your paragraph above
is useless as a troubleshooting input.


> Has anyone compiled a definitive list of all possible 
> combinations allowed in sources.list ?

Neither necessary, nor useful, nor practical -- perhaps not
even possible.


> Should I leave the backport lines in sources.list 
> or remove them?

Up to you.  I'd remove them, but that's because I am partial
to the mixed distributions mechanism.


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2003-06-01 Thread Chl2348
alk to me


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2003-06-01 Thread Chl2348
talk to me


Re: nvidia video cards

2003-06-01 Thread Bob Proulx
james leclair wrote:
> 
> Setting up woody on my main box. Using geforce4 mx pci video card. After 
> installing x and running starx, I get error messages stating "no screens 
> found". When installing x, I had chose the nv server. Was this correct? Had 
> good experiences on my test comp with Debian and would really love to get 
> it up on my main box. Anyone have any suggestions?

The "nv" driver does not support framebuffer.  But if you were like me
that option pulled you in.  Find this in your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
file and comment it out.

  Option  "UseFBDev"  "true"

The framebuffer is needed for some programs, notably tuxracer, which
use it and you won't be able to run those programs without it.  Darn!
But at least you will have X running.

Bob


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Re: nvidia video cards

2003-06-01 Thread Haim Ashkenazi
On Sat, 31 May 2003 18:41:45 -0300
james leclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Setting up woody on my main box. Using geforce4 mx pci video card.
> After installing x and running starx, I get error messages stating "no
> screens found". When installing x, I had chose the nv server. Was this
> correct? Had good experiences on my test comp with Debian and would
> really love to get it up on my main box. Anyone have any suggestions?
> James
Hi

If I remember correctly you have to disable some option in
'/etc/X11/XFree86-4'. I think it's something about framebuffer but I
really don't remember. just play with the options.

hope it helps

> 
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Re: Inserting a into sed's replacement string

2003-06-01 Thread Bob Proulx
bob parker wrote:
> I want to be able to insert tab chars into the output lines eg
> sed = somefile | sed 'N;s/\n/\t/'
> just gives me the literal 't' immediately following the number at the start 
> of each line.
> [...]
> Is there some way of inserting the tab in octal or hex?

This comes up periodically.  Here are the two prefered methods.

  1. Works way back to UNIX V7 systems (1978).  So if you want maximal
 portability even to strange systems this one is the want you
 want.

TAB=`awk 'BEGIN{printf "\t";}'`

  2. This next is my personal preference.  The 'printf' command is
 XPG4 (1992) but many older hosts don't have it.  But you can
 always add it to even old systems.  Therefore it seems more
 modern and more standard.

TAB=$(printf "\t")

  Then once you have TAB available, just use it.  Your example would
  become:

TAB=$(printf "\t")
sed = somefile | sed "N;s/\n/$TAB/"

The need in the bash shell to use -e to expand escape sequences is in
conflict with the current POSIX standards.  Therefore I avoid it since
it is not portable even though the standards say it should be.

Bob


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Making dead-keys from us_intl layout work with all characters? (fwd)

2003-06-01 Thread Rogério Brito

Dear readers,

I sent the message below to debian-x, but I received no
response.

I would like to know if other people have solutions for the
problem of making dead-keys work with all caracters and not
only with letters that can receive accents (see details
below).


Thanks for any help, Rogério.

P.S.: Please CC'me on replies, as I'm not subscribed to debian-user or
debian-user-portuguese.

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From: Rogério Brito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Making dead-keys from us_intl layout work with all characters?
Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 15:55:39 -0300
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i


Hi there.

I recently switched my keyboard layout from us to us_intl, as
I need accents (previously, I used accents on Emacs only, but
that was too limiting).

The problem that I see is that whenever I press a dead-key
(like tilde), the only keys that generate a symbol after that
are the letters that should be accented.

This is more limiting than what I would expect, since the
combination ~/ is quite common for shells, for instance (but
not only this combination).

Emacs' own iso-accents-mode does what I would like to achieve
(that is, generates a double char sequence after I type 't),
instead of eating both characters. :-(

So, is there any way to achieve what I want? I already looked
at /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/us_intl with the intention of
modifying it, but the file left me the impression that the X
server can not generate two characters after one keypress. Is
that correct?

What is the appropriate way to change the behaviour to be what
I want?


Thanks in advance, Roger...

P.S.: Please let me know if I'm asking the wrong place; also please CC
me on replies.
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apt-get Newbie

2003-06-01 Thread Alan C
Hi All

I'm a Debian newbie.

I understand it's possible to use apt-get once every 
couple of weeks or so to keep a system up-to-date.

When I installed Debian 3.0r1, some of the software 
I wanted to use specified Gnome2.2, so I've gone beyond 
stable and put the following 'backports' at the top of 
my sources.list file:

---
deb http://mirror.raw.no/ gnome2.2/

deb http://mirrors.evilgeniuses.org.uk/debian/backports/woody gnome2.2/

deb http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mirrors.evilgeniuses.org.uk/debian/backports/woody/ 
gnome2.2/
---

I did this trustingly as I don't understand the concept 
of 'backporting'...

I would now like to follow just the 'stable' updates and 
let my non-stable stuff stay as it is until it enters the 
stable 'stream'.

I would like to get all stable, US and non-US, main and 
contrib.

Is it just a case of doing a regular:
  apt-get update
  apt-get upgrade

with all 'stable' lines in sources.list, 
or will the 'backports' be damaged (or never upgraded)?

What should I put in sources.list ?

I've tried putting every possible option in to 
sources.list according to the DEB URI DISTRIBUTION 
[COMPONENT1] [COMPONENENT2] [...] rule, but I get lots of 
file-not-found errors.

Has anyone compiled a definitive list of all possible 
combinations allowed in sources.list ?

Should I leave the backport lines in sources.list 
or remove them?

Any help much appreciated.

Thanks
Alan

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Re: ssh setup

2003-06-01 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 11:35:24PM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> On Sat, 31 May 2003 the mental interface of 
> Jeff Elkins told:
> > On Saturday 31 May 2003 4:09 pm, Vineet Kumar wrote:
> > > more specifically, I take it you mean you have "X11Forwarding yes" on
> > > the server's sshd_config, yes?  Have you also enabled it on the client,
> > > either via "ForwardX11 yes" in ssh_config (or ~/.ssh/config) or by using
> > > the -X command-line option to ssh?
> > >
> > > Have you looked at the output of ssh -v?

I'd be inclined to use -vvv.

> Is root enabled to open a remote X session?

That's irrelevant to ssh X forwarding.

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Trouble with Mozilla Java plugin

2003-06-01 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Hi all,

I can't seem to get Mozilla (unstable) to recognize the Java plugin.  I
and installed by had the J2RE, first from Sun then from Blackdown.  When
neither of this worked, I added a Blackdown mirror to my sources.list.

deb ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/devel/lang/java/blackdown.org/debian
unstable main non-free

Still, nothing.  All of my other plugins work OK, but not Java.

I search the list archives and read the thread about a similar problem from 6
weeks ago, but it was not helpful.  It seems that this problem has been around
for a bit.  Has there been any resolution?

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Re: Why "./configure" script of some projects doesn't work in Debian

2003-06-01 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi,

Hamid wrote:
> But in this specific case, i.e. kdevelop, I still have problem.
> I have installed all the necessary packages for Qt (binary and headers) 
> using debian packages and I use a lot of "--with-qt-" to pass the right 
> directories to the script and it still does not feel like helping me ;) 
> and wants to play some game.

Let me guess. Using unstable / and or testing?
You need libqt3-compat-headers I suppose...

> This is the script that I use to get the daily snapshots of kdevelop:

[snip]

Regards,

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Re: ssh setup

2003-06-01 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Sat, 31 May 2003 the mental interface of 
Jeff Elkins told:

> On Saturday 31 May 2003 5:35 pm, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
[...]
> > > > > ** CRITICAL **: Unable to open display
> > > > >
> > > > > X11 forwarding is turned on.  What have I forgotten?
> > > >
> > Is root enabled to open a remote X session?
> >
> > HTH
> 
> Not by anything I did. I set this sucker up over a year ago and have mostly 
> forgotten the steps I took. Do I need to muck about in the server's /etc/X11 
> directory?

Look at /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess and Xserver. Same on /etc/kde3/kdm/
But you can also use the clicky grafic interfaces of gdmconfig or
kcontrol -> login-manager .uff

HANN

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Re: moving root (/) to new drive...

2003-06-01 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Jeff Hahn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030531 05:42]:
> I'm clearly missing a step here, any help would be appreciated...
> 
> copy drive to new partition, edit /etc/fstab.
> 
> Once I copy drive contents to a new partition, I am unable to get a clean
> boot using the new partition as root even when booting from the install cd
> in rescue mode.
> 
> Apparently there is somewhere else that the debian kernel keeps track of
> the root device...

Well, the kernel is actually linux (I assume), not debian.

Of course, the kernel does need to know when it boots where it can find
the root filesystem.  /etc/fstab is a file on that filesystem.  I think
you'll see the problem if you think about for a second.

When a kernel is compiled, the root device is stored within the kernel
itself.  This can be overridden at boot time using a "root=" kernel
parameter, for example "root=/dev/hda6".  This kernel parameter is the
usual way of doing things.  If you're using lilo, you might see
something like 'append="root=/dev/hda6 ro"' in your lilo.conf.  If
you're using grub, you'll see it on your kernel command line, something
like this, maybe: 

kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-1-686 ro root=/dev/hda6 devfs=mount

You can also change the value stored within your kernel to point to the
correct location using the rdev utility.  There's no great reason to do
that, though, since the root= parameter works just fine.  Conversely,
there's no good reason to have it set to the wrong value, either.  I
guess it depends on how anal you are; you may want those bits in your
kernel to be "correct", or you may want to not mess with a kernel that's
working.

> I have not had these types of problems using other distributions.

Such as?  I know that recent redhats use something like "root=LABEL=/"
to indicate that the root filesystem is the one labeled "/".  I can see
why a distributor might want to do that, but as an admin, I prefer to
just specify the partition precisely.  (What happens if no partition is
labeled?  If two are labeled "/"?  I know that there's exactly one
/dev/hda6.)  

> Any recommendations

It's a safe bet that the advice in the other response in this thread is
applicable to you: fix your lilo.conf and re-run lilo.

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Re: boot-floppies package

2003-06-01 Thread Charles Roberts
Floris Bruynooghe wrote:
Why can't I find the boot-floppies package anymore?  Or is there an other way to make 
custom Debian boot-floppies.
In the installation manual for Woody however they are still mentoined under the 
section `Chapter 10 - Technical Information on the Boot Floppies'.
(I could find the source package)

Thanks,
floris
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/

HTH
Charles
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Re: Why "./configure" script of some projects doesn't work in Debian

2003-06-01 Thread Hamid
Thank you all for the responses.
As you said, I could solve some of the problems by installing the 
relative "-dev" package.
But in this specific case, i.e. kdevelop, I still have problem.
I have installed all the necessary packages for Qt (binary and headers) 
using debian packages and I use a lot of "--with-qt-" to pass the right 
directories to the script and it still does not feel like helping me ;) 
and wants to play some game.
This is the script that I use to get the daily snapshots of kdevelop:
--
#!/bin/bash
cd ~/src
rm kdevelop -rf
dt=`date +%Y%m%d`
kdev="kdevelop$dt.tar.gz"
if [ ! -f $kdev ]; then
wget ftp://129.187.206.68/pub/unix/ide/KDevelop/snapshots/$kdev
fi
tar xfz $kdev
export KDEDIR=/usr
export QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$QTDIR/lib:$KDEDIR/lib/kde3:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
export LIBRARY_PATH=$QTDIR/lib:$KDEDIR/lib/kde3:$LIBRARY_PATH
export PATH=$QTDIR/bin:$KDEDIR/bin:$PATH
export CXXFLAGS="-march=i686 -O2 -s"
export CFLAGS="-march=i686 -O2 -s"
cd kdevelop
make -f Makefile.cvs
./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-debug=full --without-java 
--with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3 
--with-qt-libraries=/usr/share/qt3/lib 
--with-qtdoc-dir=/usr/share/qt3/doc 
-with-kdelibsdoc-dir=/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kdelibs-apidocs
make -j2
make install
--
You can see that I even pass the location of docs too. But still no 
success. That is why I want to download and compile qt3.2, maybe it is 
gonna help me.

Thanks again
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Re: DVDs reproduction a little "slow"

2003-06-01 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
-- Sara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
(on Saturday, 31 May 2003, 06:26 PM +0200):
> I wondered if anyone knew anything I could do to improve the reproduction of 
> DVDs. Trying different players (Ogle, Xine, Vlc), and running them even as 
> root, I always have the same problem: the images "freeze" a little. I can 
> watch the DVD, but it's a little annoying.
> 
> I have plenty of memory and a fast processor, so I don't think that's the 
> problem :). Anyway, I've noticed that the process associated to the DVD 
> player  does use a low porcentage of the total system  memory. I've tried to 
> run the players as root and happens the same. 

Are you reproducing a DVD, or are you trying to _watch_ a DVD? your
description sounds like the latter (reproducing a DVD implies copying).

Check out hdparm and using it to turn on DMA on your DVD drive. Your
computer is new enough that it's almost certainly capable of DMA, and a
simple instruction like 'hdparm -d /dev/dvdrom' (or whatever your device
is mapped as) in your boot scripts will make a world of difference.

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Re: ssh setup

2003-06-01 Thread Jeff Elkins
On Saturday 31 May 2003 5:35 pm, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> On Sat, 31 May 2003 the mental interface of
>
> Jeff Elkins told:
> > On Saturday 31 May 2003 4:09 pm, Vineet Kumar wrote:
> > > * Jeff Elkins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030531 12:42]:
> > > > I'm setting up a previously working woody mp3 server after a crash,
> > > > but when I try to run xmms via ssh I get:
> > > >
> > > > ** CRITICAL **: Unable to open display
> > > >
> > > > X11 forwarding is turned on.  What have I forgotten?
> > >
> Is root enabled to open a remote X session?
>
> HTH

Not by anything I did. I set this sucker up over a year ago and have mostly 
forgotten the steps I took. Do I need to muck about in the server's /etc/X11 
directory?

Jeff



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Re: /etc/profile no longer used

2003-06-01 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Kevin McKinley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030531 13:54]:
> On Sat, 31 May 2003 11:57:39 -0600
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) wrote:
> 
> > Leandro Guimar?es Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote:
> > >   Perhaps not exactly, but wider: /etc/environment is meant to be used
> > > by all shells, ...
> > 
> > Really?  Can someone point me to documentation or standards which
> > describes the use and behavior of /etc/environment?
> 
> /etc/environment seems to be an AIXism that's migrating to Linux. Googling
> on "/etc/environment" will get you links to user information at universities
> with AIX systems.

Specifically, it looks like it's used by the pam_env module.  I haven't
done testing to see where exactly its effects are seen, but this makes
sense that the variables specified in /etc/environment get set in all
"logins" (/bin/login, ?dm, ssh, etc.).  Since it's not parsed by init or
/etc/init.d/rc, I'd guess its variables are not set in, for example,
init scripts, and possibly other scripts/daemons that are run without a
user logging in an initiating them (notably, cron (and probably at) do
use pam_env, though).

The only mention I found regarding debian policy was a note from 1999
saying "we have no policy for /etc/environment, and we should."

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Re: Help with XMMS radio, specifically KPFB

2003-06-01 Thread Pamela Hair
On Sat, 2003-05-31 at 16:20, Haines Brown wrote:
> > http://www.shoutcast.com/ is a good place for mp3 streams. 
> > http://www.webradio.com lists radio stations and has links to streams
> > but no mp3 streams.

That should have been http://www.web-radio.com 


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nvidia video cards

2003-06-01 Thread james leclair
Setting up woody on my main box. Using geforce4 mx pci video card. After 
installing x and running starx, I get error messages stating "no screens 
found". When installing x, I had chose the nv server. Was this correct? Had 
good experiences on my test comp with Debian and would really love to get 
it up on my main box. Anyone have any suggestions?
James

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Re: ssh setup

2003-06-01 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Sat, 31 May 2003 the mental interface of 
Jeff Elkins told:

> On Saturday 31 May 2003 4:09 pm, Vineet Kumar wrote:
> > * Jeff Elkins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030531 12:42]:
> > > I'm setting up a previously working woody mp3 server after a crash, but
> > > when I try to run xmms via ssh I get:
> > >
> > > ** CRITICAL **: Unable to open display
> > >
> > > X11 forwarding is turned on.  What have I forgotten?
> >
> > more specifically, I take it you mean you have "X11Forwarding yes" on
> > the server's sshd_config, yes?  Have you also enabled it on the client,
> > either via "ForwardX11 yes" in ssh_config (or ~/.ssh/config) or by using
> > the -X command-line option to ssh?
> >
> > Have you looked at the output of ssh -v?
> >
> > good times,
> > vineet
> > --
> > http://www.doorstop.net/
> 
> Yep, X11Forwarding is set to yes in /etc/ssh_config for both the client and 
> the server. SSH seems to function normally in all other respects...
> 
> I've included my output from -v below.
> 
> OpenSSH_3.6.1p2 Debian 1:3.6.1p2-2, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090702f
> debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
> debug1: Rhosts Authentication disabled, originating port will not be trusted.
> debug1: Connecting to music.elkins [192.168.0.30] port 22.
> debug1: Connection established.
> debug1: identity file /root/.ssh/identity type -1

Is root enabled to open a remote X session?

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Re: strange mutt / imap error

2003-06-01 Thread David Fokkema
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 04:52:31PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote:
> Hi group,
> 
> Out of nowhere, I'm now getting a strange error when connecting to an
> imap folder using mutt:
> 
> Message 4 UID 108 greater than last 3
> 
> I get this in all imap folders and I don't understand any of it.
> Ignoring it is cumbersome, since every time it appears (a lot) it pauses
> mutt for a second or two.
> 
> Has anyone seen this before?
> 
> Using uw-imapd on a woody box, connecting with a testing box.

I commented out the mailboxes line in .muttrc and visited the imap boxes
one by one until one box complained. I read the offending message, did
not see what was wrong, but mutt didn't complain any longer. I
uncommented my mailboxes line and the problem had vanished...

David


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Re: Anyone using an LS-120 or "Superdisk" with debian?

2003-06-01 Thread Henrik Christian Grove
Nomad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Do you remember those 120MB floppies that weren't quite as popular as
> ZIP disks?
> 
> I was the guy that bought it.  Did anyone else on the list get one,
> and if so, did you get it to work with linux?

Not until kernel 2.0.31-pre4. (That was the summer of 1997.)

>  If you did, do you have
> any pointers?

You just have to add support for IDE-floppies to the kernel, (I have no
idea whether Debians standardkernel has that) then it shows up as
/dev/hdX (X dependent on your config).

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Re: Help with XMMS radio, specifically KPFB

2003-06-01 Thread Haines Brown
> http://www.shoutcast.com/ is a good place for mp3 streams. 
> http://www.webradio.com lists radio stations and has links to streams
> but no mp3 streams.

Pamela, 

Thanks. Although www.webradio.com seems to have come down, I was able
to use your information to do a little search on line and pulled up
some other useful sites.

As for mp3 video, did that, too, although "WebTV" tends to be
something else. These sites seem to assume a person has a Flash plug
in or RealPlayer. I discovered I could play CSPAN with xine, although
I doubt I have yet any RealPlayer or Flash support.

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Re: ssh setup

2003-06-01 Thread Jeff Elkins
On Saturday 31 May 2003 4:09 pm, Vineet Kumar wrote:
> * Jeff Elkins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030531 12:42]:
> > I'm setting up a previously working woody mp3 server after a crash, but
> > when I try to run xmms via ssh I get:
> >
> > ** CRITICAL **: Unable to open display
> >
> > X11 forwarding is turned on.  What have I forgotten?
>
> more specifically, I take it you mean you have "X11Forwarding yes" on
> the server's sshd_config, yes?  Have you also enabled it on the client,
> either via "ForwardX11 yes" in ssh_config (or ~/.ssh/config) or by using
> the -X command-line option to ssh?
>
> Have you looked at the output of ssh -v?
>
> good times,
> vineet
> --
> http://www.doorstop.net/

Yep, X11Forwarding is set to yes in /etc/ssh_config for both the client and 
the server. SSH seems to function normally in all other respects...

I've included my output from -v below.

OpenSSH_3.6.1p2 Debian 1:3.6.1p2-2, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090702f
debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
debug1: Rhosts Authentication disabled, originating port will not be trusted.
debug1: Connecting to music.elkins [192.168.0.30] port 22.
debug1: Connection established.
debug1: identity file /root/.ssh/identity type -1
debug1: identity file /root/.ssh/id_rsa type -1
debug1: identity file /root/.ssh/id_dsa type 2
debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_3.4p1 
Debian 1:3.4p1-1
debug1: match: OpenSSH_3.4p1 Debian 1:3.4p1-1 pat OpenSSH*
debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0
debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.6.1p2 Debian 1:3.6.1p2-2
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received
debug1: kex: server->client aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none
debug1: kex: client->server aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST sent
debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent
debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY
debug1: Host 'music.elkins' is known and matches the RSA host key.
debug1: Found key in /root/.ssh/known_hosts:10
debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct
debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent
debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS
debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received
debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent
debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received
debug1: Authentications that can continue: 
publickey,password,keyboard-interactive
debug1: Next authentication method: publickey
debug1: Trying private key: /root/.ssh/identity
debug1: Trying private key: /root/.ssh/id_rsa
debug1: Offering public key: /root/.ssh/id_dsa
debug1: Server accepts key: pkalg ssh-dss blen 434 lastkey 0x80845c8 hint 2
debug1: read PEM private key done: type DSA
debug1: Authentication succeeded (publickey).
debug1: fd 4 setting O_NONBLOCK
debug1: channel 0: new [client-session]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:jeff]$ debug1: Entering interactive session.
debug1: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing.
debug1: channel 0: request x11-req
debug1: Sending command: xmms
debug1: channel 0: request exec
debug1: channel 0: open confirm rwindow 0 rmax 32768
debug1: channel 0: read<=0 rfd 4 len 0
debug1: channel 0: read failed
debug1: channel 0: close_read
debug1: channel 0: input open -> drain
debug1: channel 0: ibuf empty
debug1: channel 0: send eof
debug1: channel 0: input drain -> closed
** debug1: client_input_channel_req: channel 0 rtype exit-status reply 0
debug1: channel 0: rcvd eof
debug1: channel 0: output open -> drain
debug1: channel 0: rcvd close
CRITICAL **: Unable to open display
debug1: channel 0: obuf empty
debug1: channel 0: close_write
debug1: channel 0: output drain -> closed
debug1: channel 0: almost dead
debug1: channel 0: gc: notify user
debug1: channel 0: gc: user detached
debug1: channel 0: send close
debug1: channel 0: is dead
debug1: channel 0: garbage collecting
debug1: channel_free: channel 0: client-session, nchannels 1
debug1: Transferred: stdin 0, stdout 0, stderr 0 bytes in 0.1 seconds
debug1: Bytes per second: stdin 0.0, stdout 0.0, stderr 0.0
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Re: /etc/profile no longer used

2003-06-01 Thread Kevin McKinley
On Sat, 31 May 2003 11:57:39 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) wrote:

> Leandro Guimar?es Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote:
> > Perhaps not exactly, but wider: /etc/environment is meant to be used
> > by all shells, ...
> 
> Really?  Can someone point me to documentation or standards which
> describes the use and behavior of /etc/environment?

/etc/environment seems to be an AIXism that's migrating to Linux. Googling
on "/etc/environment" will get you links to user information at universities
with AIX systems.

Here is a link from the path mini-HOWTO:

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/Path-14.html

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Address book sharing

2003-06-01 Thread Piero
Does anybody know whether it is possible to share the Mozilla address 
books of the Windows and of the Debian partition? And how?
Thanks,
Piero.

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eth0: tx interrupt but no status

2003-06-01 Thread Wojtek Fratczak



Hello, I am a new user. I installed Debian 
over the net then for the sake of exercise I compiled a newer kernel 2.4.17 and 
replaced the original. My machine is an older Compaq  Deskpro 166 Pentium. 
NIC Intel EtherExpress 16. Whenever I use ftp or http (logged on from another 
host) services on this machine the message: "eth0: tx interrupt but 
no status"  scrolls through the screen (by the hundreds). This message does 
not show up when I use network services working at that 
machine.
Thanks, Lawrence


Re: How do I make a recovery floppy ?

2003-06-01 Thread Clive Menzies
Hi Al

On (31/05/03 09:48), Al Dykes wrote:
> I didn't have a floppy drive when I set up my system, so I skipped
> the "make a floppy"  step.  How do I make one after the fact.  
> 
> My #1 priority is protecting my multi-boot setup (LILO), including the MBR.
> so i can boot w2k, in an NTFS  partition.   
>
"mkboot" prompts you to insert a floppy etc.

Regards

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Re: AIC7xxx drivers Thunder K7x Pro

2003-06-01 Thread Greg Madden
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On Saturday 31 May 2003 04:39 am, Pigeon wrote:
> On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 04:18:01AM -0400, Paul Matuszewski wrote:
> > Hi all, newbie here.
> >
> > I've installed plenty of non-scsi systems.. but one of the first
> > systems that i am isntalling is not working 'out of the box' per say.
> >
> > It is a thunder k7x pro w/ the adaptec aic-7902W scsi chip onboard
> >
> > I'm trying to get it to work.. but am having a miserable time.
> >
> > Are there drivers available?  and if so.. how do I go about adding them
> > while i'm doing a fresh installation (no other hd's avail except what's
> > on the scsi.)
>
> At the install CD's boot: prompt enter "compact" to boot/install with
> the so-called "compact" kernel which includes aic7xxx support.

Let us know if this works. I have read another reference to this topic (suse 
list) that uses a aic79xx module,(same mb) which isn't available in Woody 
kernel sources.
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AIC79xx.o Trying to load driver

2003-06-01 Thread Paul Matuszewski
Hi all..

I found a web site http://www.imonk.com/jason/hacks/ that has an aic79xx.o
module/driver that I want to install.

However, I'm working on a new installation here.. so I have to load it
through the installer.. the problem is that when I try loading it it say
that there are unresolved symbols etc.

I'm trying to find out what the dependencies are for the driver.. and what I
ahve to load first to get it working.


Thanks :)


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Re: ssh setup

2003-06-01 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Jeff Elkins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030531 12:42]:
> I'm setting up a previously working woody mp3 server after a crash, but when I 
> try to run xmms via ssh I get:
> 
> ** CRITICAL **: Unable to open display
> 
> X11 forwarding is turned on.  What have I forgotten?

more specifically, I take it you mean you have "X11Forwarding yes" on
the server's sshd_config, yes?  Have you also enabled it on the client,
either via "ForwardX11 yes" in ssh_config (or ~/.ssh/config) or by using
the -X command-line option to ssh?

Have you looked at the output of ssh -v?

good times,
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Re: JPG image help needed please :-)

2003-06-01 Thread Bill Marcum
On Fri, 30 May 2003 18:40:14 +0200, Maria Rodriguez 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm using the bootsplash kernel patch to get a nice background when 
my computers start up, but am having a strange problem.
> 
 > It appears that it will only accept JPGs when the "aspect ratio" is 
 1x1.  I don't know a whole lot about graphics, but when I save an image 
in the gimp, it always saves it as "resolution (DPI), 72 x 72".  Here's 
the output of the files when running "file" against them:
> 
Try clicking "File / Preferences / New File" in the Gimp.


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How do I make a recovery floppy ?

2003-06-01 Thread Al Dykes
I didn't have a floppy drive when I set up my system, so I skipped
the "make a floppy"  step.  How do I make one after the fact.  

My #1 priority is protecting my multi-boot setup (LILO), including the MBR.
so i can boot w2k, in an NTFS  partition.   

Thanks



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Re: Solved: Re: DVDs reproduction a little "slow"

2003-06-01 Thread Jeremy Petzold
On Saturday 31 May 2003 02:16 pm, Sara Gil Casanova wrote:
> > Check that DMA is turned on on the DVD-ROM
> >
> >   hdparm -d /dev/hdc
>
> No, it wasn't. I turned it on on the hard disk, but did'n't think of the
> DVD-ROM. I can't try it right now with any DVD, but I guess now it will
> work fine.
>
> Thanks a lot :)
make sure you place an entry in hwtools as well so that your settings last 
beyond a reboot.


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Re: Options for mkisofs

2003-06-01 Thread Thomas Weinbrenner
Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
> I was under the impression that the -A option (the application id) was
> basically the title of the CD.  However, after I burn the CD and mount
> it under Gnome (by right clicking in the desktop) or pop it into the
> drive on a windoze machine, the title shows up as just "CDROM".   

> I have also read the man page for mkisofs and have not been able to
> find a more suitable commandline option.  Can someone please point me
> in the right direction?

,[ man mkisofs ]-
|  -V volid
| Specifies the volume ID (volume name or  label)  to
| be  written  into the master block.  This parameter
| can  also  be  set  in  the  file  .mkisofsrc  with
| VOLI=id.   If specified in both places, the command
| line version is used.  Note that if  you  assign  a
| volume  ID,  this  is the name that will be used as
| the mount point used by the Solaris volume  manage­
| ment  system  and  the name that is assigned to the
| disc on a Microsoft Win32 or Apple Mac platform.
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Re: AIC7xxx drivers Thunder K7x Pro

2003-06-01 Thread Pigeon
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 04:18:01AM -0400, Paul Matuszewski wrote:
> Hi all, newbie here.
> 
> I've installed plenty of non-scsi systems.. but one of the first systems
> that i am isntalling is not working 'out of the box' per say.
> 
> It is a thunder k7x pro w/ the adaptec aic-7902W scsi chip onboard
> 
> I'm trying to get it to work.. but am having a miserable time.
> 
> Are there drivers available?  and if so.. how do I go about adding them
> while i'm doing a fresh installation (no other hd's avail except what's on
> the scsi.)

At the install CD's boot: prompt enter "compact" to boot/install with
the so-called "compact" kernel which includes aic7xxx support.

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Re: Options for mkisofs

2003-06-01 Thread Jan C. Nordholz
> I use the following commandline to make my .iso images:
> 
> mkisofs -A Some\ title -JR /burndirectory /tmp/some_img.iso
Try mkisofs -V label.

HTH,

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Re: DVDs reproduction a little "slow"

2003-06-01 Thread Florentin Ionescu
Try to compile mplayer, cvs version and read DOCS/cd-dvd.html to improve
performance - mplayer has support for debian package - http://www.mplayerhq.hu.

On Sat, 31 May 2003, Sara wrote :

» Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 17:32:54 +0200
» From: Sara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
» To: debuser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
» Subject: DVDs reproduction a little "slow"
» Resent-Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 11:10:14 -0500 (CDT)
» Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
»
» Hi again!
»
» I wondered if anyone knew anything I could do to improve the reproduction of
» DVDs. Trying different players (Ogle, Xine, Vlc), and running them even as
» root, I always have the same problem: the images "freeze" a little. I can
» watch the DVD, but it's a little annoying.
»
» I have plenty of memory and a fast processor, so I don't think that's the
» problem :). Anyway, I've noticed that the process associated to the DVD
» player  does use a low porcentage of the total system  memory. I've tried to
» run the players as root and happens the same.
»
» Any ideas? :)
»
» Regards,
»
» Sara
»
»
»

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ssh setup

2003-06-01 Thread Jeff Elkins
I'm setting up a previously working woody mp3 server after a crash, but when I 
try to run xmms via ssh I get:

** CRITICAL **: Unable to open display

X11 forwarding is turned on.  What have I forgotten?

TIA

Jeff Elkins


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Solved: Re: DVDs reproduction a little "slow"

2003-06-01 Thread Sara Gil Casanova

> Check that DMA is turned on on the DVD-ROM
>
>   hdparm -d /dev/hdc

No, it wasn't. I turned it on on the hard disk, but did'n't think of the 
DVD-ROM. I can't try it right now with any DVD, but I guess now it will work 
fine. 

Thanks a lot :)


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Re: Help with XMMS radio, specifically KPFB

2003-06-01 Thread Pamela Hair
On Sat, 2003-05-31 at 10:44, Haines Brown wrote:
> In connection with this thread, is there a web site that keeps track
> of various internet radio and TV resources that can be used by xmms or
> xine? I find that the information that accompanies xine is inaccurate.
> 

http://www.shoutcast.com/ is a good place for mp3 streams. 
http://www.webradio.com lists radio stations and has links to streams
but no mp3 streams.



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Re: startup scripts

2003-06-01 Thread VEGH Karoly
On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 02:45:52PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > i have a script which i want to run just aftert the system has booted
> up and
> > before the login prompt is shown to the user...where do put this
> script ? i
> > am running debian woody.
> 
> I think you can put it in /etc/rc.boot/

kicsi:~# man rc.boot
Reformatting rc.boot(5), please wait...
RC.BOOT(5)   Debian GNU/Linux Manual   RC.BOOT(5)

NAME
  /etc/rc.boot  -  directory  for  local or per-package boot
  scripts.

DESCRIPTION
  The /etc/rc.boot directory is obsolete. It has been super-
  seded by the /etc/rcS.d directory. At boot time, first the
  /etc/rcS.d directory is scanned and  then,  for  backwards
  compatibility, the /etc/rc.boot directory.



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Options for mkisofs

2003-06-01 Thread Roberto Sanchez
I use the following commandline to make my .iso images:

mkisofs -A Some\ title -JR /burndirectory /tmp/some_img.iso

I was under the impression that the -A option (the application id) was
basically the title of the CD.  However, after I burn the CD and mount it under
Gnome (by right clicking in the desktop) or pop it into the drive on a windoze
machine, the title shows up as just "CDROM".  I seem to recall that xcdroast
lets you give the CD a title (but I can't use it on the machine with the CD
burner because I don't run X on it).

I have also read the man page for mkisofs and have not been able to find a more
suitable commandline option.  Can someone please point me in the right
direction?

-Roberto Sanchez


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Re: DVDs reproduction a little "slow"

2003-06-01 Thread Deryk Barker
Thus spake Sara ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> Hi again!
> 
> I wondered if anyone knew anything I could do to improve the reproduction of 
> DVDs. Trying different players (Ogle, Xine, Vlc), and running them even as 
> root, I always have the same problem: the images "freeze" a little. I can 
> watch the DVD, but it's a little annoying.
> 
> I have plenty of memory and a fast processor, so I don't think that's the 
> problem :). Anyway, I've noticed that the process associated to the DVD 
> player  does use a low porcentage of the total system  memory. I've tried to 
> run the players as root and happens the same. 
> 
> Any ideas? :)

Check that DMA is turned on on the DVD-ROM

  hdparm -d /dev/hdc

you'll need to do this as root and you'll need the hdparm package. If
it's not on, try turning it on:

  hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc

it will make all the difference.

If it's already on, I can't help you...but I'm betting it's not.
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Re: [DEB-USER] Re: fetchmail incorrect headers retention

2003-06-01 Thread Paul M Foster
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 05:55:57PM +0100, Alan Chandler wrote:

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> On Saturday 31 May 2003 3:56 pm, Paul M Foster wrote:
> > I'm having a problem with testing's version of fetchmail (6.2.1). It is
> > leaving mail on my pop server, with the error message (in part):
> > "incorrect header line found while scanning headers". Every time it hits
> > a piece of mail and issues this error message, it does not retrieve it
> > from the pop server. And no matter what parameters I give fetchmail, it
> > will not retrieve it.
> >
> 
> Is this fetchmail doing this or whatever fetchmail is handing the mail on to 
> which is rejecting it.  I think fetchmail will not delete any mail that it 
> cannot hand on.  There is one exception to this (I think - not tried it) but 
> if the MTA it is handing mail on to says it thinks its spam, then fetchmail 
> can delete it. 
> 
> I have found occassionally a single mail gets left stuck at my ISP.  I have 
> since changed my fetchmailrc file to use the fetchall option Thus:-
> 
> poll pop3.blueyonder.co.uk no dns proto POP3 tracepolls interval 4
> aka blueyonder.co.uk
> localdomains chandlerfamily.org.uk libdebate.org
>  user "x" password "x" forcecr is * fetchall 

Nope. It's fetchmail itself. It's called out in the source code. I took
a look at the archives, and this problem has come up before recently. 
It stems from mail with malformed headers. But the default behavior is
to retain the mail on the pop server. I'd like to see a patch that 
simply deletes that mail.

Paul


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Re: horse at the gate

2003-06-01 Thread Mike M
On Friday 30 May 2003 20:16, Mark Roach wrote:
> then run "file filename" for detailed info. for simpler things, try 'ls
> --color' this will hilight normal files/directories/executables
> differently to keep from having to type this every time, you can do
>
> alias ls='ls --color'
>
> you can also edit your .bashrc file to make this automatic every time
> you login.

You may need to edit your .bash_profile to execute the .bashrc if your are 
running from a login shell.  Logout and log back in to see the changes occur.

>From .bash_profile:

# include .bashrc if it exists

if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then
source ~/.bashrc
fi

To edit .bash_profile, do the following:

$ ls -a
// shows hidden files
$ vi .bash_profile
// move cursor down to "if" statement shown above
// use 'x' key to delete the the '#' character on that line
// do the same action on the next 3 lines
// enter the following to save your work:
:wq
$ vi .bashrc
// remove the '#' from the following lines:
# enable color support of ls and also add handy aliases

eval `dircolors` <---this line
alias ls='ls --color=auto '  <---and this line
#alias ll='ls -l'
#alias la='ls -A'
#alias l='ls -CF'
#alias dir='ls --color=auto --format=vertical'
#alias vdir='ls --color=auto --format=long'
// save your work with
:wq
// logout - login - enter the following commands:
$ ls /usr/bin
$ ls /var/log
// see the colors?
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